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- 3:11SPEAKER_10: And that was, of course, Caroline Levitt, the former White House uh press secretary at the midterm Republican National Convention last night, of which, on the show this morning, on your Freedom Friday, we do have a lot of uh audio to play, especially of the rousing speech given by Vice President uh JD Vance.
- 3:32SPEAKER_10: Welcome to the John Justice Show, presented by American Experiment.
- 3:36SPEAKER_10: I, of course, am your host, John Justice, producing the show this morning, as he is every Freedom Friday, is Isaac.
- 3:42SPEAKER_10: Good morning, Isaac.
- 3:43SPEAKER_07: Good morning.
- 3:44SPEAKER_10: How old were you on nine?
- 3:46SPEAKER_10: Were you born on 9-11?
- 3:48SPEAKER_07: I was two days short of two years old.
- 3:51SPEAKER_07: Okay.
- 3:51SPEAKER_10: So when did you first become aware of 9-11?
- 3:56SPEAKER_07: Um, I felt like I learned about it early, pretty early on in school.
- 3:59SPEAKER_07: Probably late, you know, late elementary school.
- 4:02SPEAKER_07: You went to good schools, though, right?
- 4:03SPEAKER_07: I went to good schools.
- 4:04SPEAKER_07: I went to private schools.
- 4:05SPEAKER_10: Okay, yeah.
- 4:05SPEAKER_10: See, those are good schools.
- 4:06SPEAKER_10: You didn't tell.
- 4:07SPEAKER_10: You didn't go to the you know, I can tell.
- 4:09SPEAKER_10: My wife can tell.
- 4:09SPEAKER_10: She's a huge fan.
- 4:10SPEAKER_10: She's your biggest, she's your biggest fan.
- 4:12SPEAKER_10: Let's go.
- 4:12SPEAKER_10: I think you're all right.
- 4:13SPEAKER_10: So no, it's good to see you this morning.
- 4:16SPEAKER_10: Good to see you this morning.
- 4:17SPEAKER_10: Uh, it is the 25th anniversary of uh of 9-11.
- 4:21SPEAKER_10: And uh happening on a Freedom Friday, I was talking with Melinda yesterday about that, and she, you know, was curious.
- 4:28SPEAKER_10: How are you gonna handle Friday's show?
- 4:32SPEAKER_10: Uh, because, you know, it's it's significant.
- 4:35SPEAKER_10: And it and we won't be ignoring uh the 25th anniversary of uh 9-11.
- 4:40SPEAKER_10: But at the same time, I also want to make sure that in my in my opinion, we honor uh those that we lost on that day, that we have lost since that day because of the ramifications and the fallout of what took place on 9-11.
- 4:58SPEAKER_10: I was following up um on some of the more recent documentaries regarding uh 9-11.
- 5:05SPEAKER_10: Uh I, as you may or may not be aware, I've told many times on the on the air that uh I was working for an alternative rock station in Riverside San Bernardino, uh, X103.9, uh KCXX.
- 5:17SPEAKER_10: I was uh the justice portion of the Dick and Justice show uh when 9-11 happened.
- 5:23SPEAKER_10: So I was on the air that day doing rock radio, and it was an interesting dynamic being in rock radio and not just dealing with that day.
- 5:32SPEAKER_10: Uh I'd only been in radio for just a handful of years at that point in time.
- 5:38SPEAKER_10: Well yeah, four or five.
- 5:40SPEAKER_10: Um, but I was still very green.
- 5:43SPEAKER_10: Um, so dealing with it on that day, working for a rock station, and then subsequently the afterwards was um really, really interesting.
- 5:51SPEAKER_10: Uh just different than doing, you know, obviously talk radio where the commentary and the conversation surrounding the tragedy uh of us being attacked was you know more in line with it.
- 6:02SPEAKER_10: It wasn't the case when you're working for an alternative rock station and you've got record labels coming and saying, hey, don't play this song, this song, and this song, and this song, because people might get triggered over references that aren't even, you know, don't have anything to do with 9-11.
- 6:19SPEAKER_10: And yet at the time there was a lot of sensitivity, uh, anything dealing with speed or crashing or even death uh at the time.
- 6:26SPEAKER_10: Um, so um backing up a little bit.
- 6:29SPEAKER_10: Uh we will be uh talking about the anniversary of 9-11.
- 6:32SPEAKER_10: We'll certainly get into conversations with our in-studio Freedom Friday guests uh this morning.
- 6:37SPEAKER_10: Uh even though, again, speaking of the ages, you know, when it comes to Max, Grace, and Catherine, just like Isaac, all very, all very young.
- 6:45SPEAKER_10: Max a little bit older, but all very young at the time of 9-11.
- 6:49SPEAKER_10: And it and again, prepping for the show this morning, I was thinking about the fact that there will be a time when people will be referring to individuals who were alive and aware during 9-11 and how few of us there will be.
- 7:08SPEAKER_10: I was thinking back to like World War II and how you have the honor flights to send your, you know, members of our military who fought in World War II to their memorial in Washington, D.C., but there's fewer and fewer of them, obviously, every single year.
- 7:21SPEAKER_10: At some point, we're gonna get to that place when it comes to those who lived through 9-11.
- 7:27SPEAKER_10: And again, we're aware of 9-11.
- 7:29SPEAKER_10: I'm not talking about those who were, you know, two years old like Isaac or just born like Grace was, but those like the majority of you in the audience and myself who, you know, were very much aware as adults of what took place on that fateful day.
- 7:43SPEAKER_10: So as we work through that on the show this morning, uh, the blaster line is, of course, open for a freedom Friday.
- 7:48SPEAKER_10: You're on and off topic comments all morning long.
- 7:52SPEAKER_10: We are gonna have some fun because I do believe that that is also appropriate in honoring those that we lost to make sure that we continue to appreciate what we have here in America.
- 8:04SPEAKER_10: And that is, you know, our our freedom.
- 8:06SPEAKER_10: That's what was attacked that day was our exceptionalism here in the United States, the freedom that you and I get to enjoy and that we cherish so deeply that, in my view, there's an entire party out there that's trying to go and undermine all of that.
- 8:22SPEAKER_10: So, that being said, we're gonna navigate carefully on the show this morning as we work through uh the various stories.
- 8:27SPEAKER_10: Uh, we'll get your thoughts as we look back on 9-11.
- 8:30SPEAKER_10: As a matter of fact, Rick, uh, friend of the show, Rick had already emailed in this morning.
- 8:34SPEAKER_10: Uh, I figured we'll start there as, you know, as we kick off the show today.
- 8:38SPEAKER_10: I want to dive into a few news items that we didn't get a chance to get to uh yesterday on the show before we uh begin to share uh commentary and audio from the midterm RNC last night.
- 8:50SPEAKER_10: But friend of the show Rick wrote in to justice uh john.justice at americanexperiment.org and he says, you might be asking for reminisces of 9-11 today.
- 8:59SPEAKER_10: And I'm not officially doing that.
- 9:02SPEAKER_10: Uh if you would like to share, feel free.
- 9:05SPEAKER_10: But um I'm not necessarily looking, you know, for your own personal stories.
- 9:10SPEAKER_10: You share whatever it is you want to share or, you know, any aspects of the impact of 9-11.
- 9:15SPEAKER_10: We've been talking about this um, you know, all week long.
- 9:18SPEAKER_10: I got I had a great conversation with uh Minnesota um auditor candidate Scott Jensen uh in the Center of the American Experiment Studios yesterday, and we kind of deviated from his campaign uh and the auditor's race to talking about 9-11, what impact it had on the country, and then subsequently what happened with COVID exacerbating what the country was already dealing with in the wake of 9-11.
- 9:44SPEAKER_10: But Rick writes in and says, I was on a fishing trip in Canada with guys at my church, including the pastor.
- 9:49SPEAKER_10: We were staying at a remote fishing place with a lodge and several cabins that morning.
- 9:54SPEAKER_10: I felt like staying in the cabin to clean while the rest of the guys went out on the little motorboats.
- 9:58SPEAKER_10: One of the cleaning ladies came uh to the cabin and told me the Twin Towers in New York City were being attacked by terrorists.
- 10:04SPEAKER_10: I went up to the main lodge and watched the devastation and heartbreak on TV.
- 10:09SPEAKER_10: There was no way to contact my friends, and I had to wait several hours to let them know what had um what had happened.
- 10:18SPEAKER_10: Uh our pastor had to leave the next day, and it took him several hours to get across the border.
- 10:25SPEAKER_10: The same for us when we came back uh across a few days later.
- 10:29SPEAKER_10: Uh, thank you for sharing your uh your story, Rick.
- 10:31SPEAKER_10: I uh do appreciate it.
- 10:32SPEAKER_10: Again, john.justice at americanexperiment uh.org.
- 10:36SPEAKER_10: I also got an email that just came in.
- 10:39SPEAKER_10: Uh have you heard of any moments of silence uh today?
- 10:42SPEAKER_10: I have not heard of any official moments of silence.
- 10:46SPEAKER_10: I reposted on my account um uh an account that I follow, uh that just a just a Trump supporter that I follow, but they do a lot of great posts.
- 10:57SPEAKER_10: And they had screenshots, they took a screenshot of their phone, and it was uh basically alarms for what they were doing for moments of silence.
- 11:10SPEAKER_10: And so this would be for all of the various events that trans, you know, that that unfolded that day, coinciding with the various aircraft and what it and what had taken place.
- 11:19SPEAKER_10: I haven't heard any of anything official, and I thought briefly about doing moments of silence on the show and realize that just in terms of the dynamics of the show, getting the timing right, uh, if you want to observe those moments of silence while you're listening, you're obviously free to do that.
- 11:40SPEAKER_10: But here on the show, just from a uh programming standpoint, um I didn't want to screw up.
- 11:46SPEAKER_10: I didn't want to screw up and not hit something at the right time.
- 11:48SPEAKER_10: So if you want to do that on your own, please uh please feel free.
- 11:51SPEAKER_10: But uh, we will not be observing that on the show um uh this morning.
- 11:55SPEAKER_10: So again, the blaster line is 651-964-0294.
- 12:01SPEAKER_10: You can leave a voice or text message at any point throughout the show this morning on a Freedom Friday.
- 12:05SPEAKER_10: It will be Max Reimer, uh, Grace, and Catherine, aka Kamara was and has been in Dallas for the midterm uh RNC, and hopefully will be leaving us some blasts later on uh this morning.
- 12:18SPEAKER_10: So let's get caught up, though, on a few of the stories that we were covering this week, and we'll start with this.
- 12:24SPEAKER_10: Uh, we have an update on the Amazon cargo uh plane crash in Miami.
- 12:29SPEAKER_10: And common theme throughout so many of these stories, like completely avoidable.
- 12:36SPEAKER_10: This this accident that took place, one, could have been disastrously worse, but was a disaster in and of itself, considering that five people ended up losing their lives lives completely needlessly.
- 12:51SPEAKER_10: For nearly two minutes, according to the story from the Associated Press, one of the pilots of the Amazon cargo plane that careened off the Miami runway, killing five people, had repeatedly warned his counterpart that they were going too fast as they approached the landing and after touchdown, according to the flight information that was released this week.
- 13:11SPEAKER_10: The summary of the cockpit voice recordings compiled by the NTSB said the fellow pilot never gave a consistent verbal response to the warnings.
- 13:20SPEAKER_10: The plane touched down awkwardly, briefly attempted to take off, and then smashed into a van carrying the five victims.
- 13:27SPEAKER_10: I was talking with my pilot's son Logan about this yesterday, and he was dumbfounded based off of what they know of what the pilots were doing because they had every opportunity to avoid this.
- 13:40SPEAKER_10: They were throttling up for a go-round and had plenty of time and speed to do it, but the hesitation is what ended up causing this tragic accident.
- 13:52SPEAKER_10: The Amazon plane came in too fast on Sunday afternoon and then barreled roughly 1,300 feet past the end of the runway, smashing into a van carrying workers at a plane cleaning at a plane cleaning company before hitting a compact SUV as it slid across a public road before catching fire.
- 14:10SPEAKER_10: All five people who died were in the van.
- 14:14SPEAKER_10: Just completely avoidable.
- 14:18SPEAKER_10: Five others were hurt, two who remained in critical condition earlier this week.
- 14:23SPEAKER_10: The two pilots survived and were interviewed Wednesday by investigators.
- 14:27SPEAKER_10: Before I give you some some more details on this, um, yes, yesterday, so Melinda had gone and done an early Costco run.
- 14:35SPEAKER_10: We always do Costco on Fridays, but they did uh we're going there again today.
- 14:38SPEAKER_10: Not that it matters to you, but I'm sharing anyways.
- 14:41SPEAKER_10: So they ended up, I don't know why they went yesterday.
- 14:44SPEAKER_10: I tell her all the time, it's like, why don't you just wait till Friday?
- 14:46SPEAKER_10: But she and Kyle had to go and get something.
- 14:49SPEAKER_10: Anyway, she got home and you know, Kyle walks in the door and he immediately goes, uh, mom got into it with somebody.
- 14:59SPEAKER_10: I told Melinda that after she, I'll tell you the story here in just a second.
- 15:03SPEAKER_10: But I told her after the story.
- 15:04SPEAKER_10: I go, man, honey, you're like equivalent of back in the day when like dudes would go out to the bar or or the club and they were just looking for a fight.
- 15:13SPEAKER_10: You just, you just, you're not going to express yourself through the through the art of dance.
- 15:22SPEAKER_10: You're not going to pick up on chicks.
- 15:25SPEAKER_10: No, you're just going because you want to pick a fight.
- 15:28SPEAKER_10: So apparently, and it was it was I probably would have done the same thing.
- 15:31SPEAKER_10: She was talking about this lunatic that was driving on 125th heading to Costco, this guy driving in a truck.
- 15:38SPEAKER_10: And the way she was describing it, and you know, Kyle attested to this, it wasn't just that he was tailgating and cutting people off, but he was like, he was like encroaching on like their quarter panels.
- 15:48SPEAKER_10: Like he was like leaning on them in the lanes.
- 15:50SPEAKER_10: And Melinda was like, What is this lunatic doing?
- 15:52SPEAKER_10: He almost caused a bunch of wrecks.
- 15:54SPEAKER_10: Well, he ended up turning into the Costco parking lot.
- 15:57SPEAKER_10: And so apparently got out of the car and Melinda confronted him.
- 16:00SPEAKER_10: I guess the dude had his arm in a sling or something like this.
- 16:03SPEAKER_10: And and then he made a comment like, I've been driving this, I've been driving like this for 50 years.
- 16:08SPEAKER_10: I don't know what your problem is, woman, this kind of thing.
- 16:11SPEAKER_10: And and then, you know, Melinda mentioned, she's like, Well, you know, but what if you hit somebody else?
- 16:16SPEAKER_10: What if you had, you know, my I have my kids in the car?
- 16:18SPEAKER_10: You're driving like a lunatic.
- 16:19SPEAKER_10: And I guess he then he ended up shutting up after that.
- 16:22SPEAKER_10: Like the point of why I bring the story up relating to the Amazon cargo plane is that it's avoidable, people.
- 16:27SPEAKER_10: Just slow the hell down.
- 16:29SPEAKER_10: Show some courtesy for crying out loud.
- 16:33SPEAKER_10: That's all we're saying.
- 16:35SPEAKER_10: At the point when the pilot first called out that the plane was speeding, a former FAA official, Michael uh O'Donnell, said the crew could have done a number of things to slow it down, including extending the spoilers, cutting the throttles, and lowering the landing gear, or the pilots could have just aborted the landing and circled around and tried again.
- 16:50SPEAKER_10: You have plenty of time to slow down, plenty of time to say, hey, let's do a go-around in two minutes out.
- 16:56SPEAKER_10: He used to oversee airport safety and crass investigations.
- 17:00SPEAKER_10: Information from the flight data recorder was released uh earlier this week, and it shows how unsteady the plane was as it came in to land amid the strong winds, and the planes uh briefly disengaged uh the brakes.
- 17:12SPEAKER_10: The throttles uh were shoved up as they were trying to take off again and retry the landing, but they abandoned it four seconds later, and that's what ended up causing the tragedy.
- 17:23SPEAKER_10: And as I mentioned earlier in the week, uh Matt Walsh had done some really interesting reporting on this and was doing some digging into the hiring practices of uh of Amazon Air, and this could have very well been a DEI uh issue that they were that they were dealing with.
- 17:40SPEAKER_10: So again, completely avoidable and uh and just uh just unfortunate.
- 17:45SPEAKER_10: And thank goodness it wasn't a cargo, I mean it wasn't a passenger plane, right?
- 17:49SPEAKER_10: 651-964-0294.
- 17:52SPEAKER_10: Comments are already rolling into the blaster line this morning.
- 17:54SPEAKER_10: First off, thanks to the individual who uh sent to in the moments of silence this morning.
- 17:59SPEAKER_10: There is sort of an official list, and I'll just run through it briefly here on the show.
- 18:03SPEAKER_10: Uh 846 a.m.
- 18:05SPEAKER_10: would be the first uh moment of silence.
- 18:07SPEAKER_10: Flight 11 strikes the North Tower.
- 18:09SPEAKER_10: 937, and I believe these are probably all Eastern time, right?
- 18:14SPEAKER_10: So these would be 7.
- 18:15SPEAKER_10: Right, okay, yeah.
- 18:16SPEAKER_10: And ISIS giving me the yes.
- 18:18SPEAKER_10: So 7.46 our time, 9 uh, excuse me, 8.37 our time.
- 18:22SPEAKER_10: That's when flight 77 uh crash into the Pentagon near Washington, D.C.
- 18:27SPEAKER_10: And then 9.03 our time, flight 93 cla uh crashes in Shanksville, uh Pennsylvania.
- 18:34SPEAKER_10: At uh 8.03 Central Time, Flight 175 strikes the South Tower.
- 18:39SPEAKER_10: Uh 859, the South Tower falls.
- 18:43SPEAKER_10: And then at 928, the North Tower falls.
- 18:47SPEAKER_10: I was watching um, you know, the your X feed gets filled up with a lot of 9-11 material.
- 18:55SPEAKER_10: And thankfully the algorithm has been serving me the proper 9-11 footage and not all the conspiracy BS because I just can't deal with that.
- 19:07SPEAKER_10: Right, the the 9-11 truthers truther uh movement sparked just a litany of i of conspiracies.
- 19:14SPEAKER_10: Like I don't think the conspiracies that we deal with, again, some of them turn out to be true.
- 19:18SPEAKER_10: Don't misunderstand, but you know, everything ends up becoming a conspiracy, and I I I feel like if it hadn't been for 9-11, that probably wouldn't be as bad as it as it is today.
- 19:28SPEAKER_10: But I watched a uh video yesterday, and I had never seen this take before because one of the conspiracy theories regarding 9-11, which I've never heard a good, and I don't I don't need an explanation from you, so don't bother.
- 19:44SPEAKER_10: I'm not gonna play it if you share it.
- 19:46SPEAKER_10: Um just being just being straightforward.
- 19:48SPEAKER_10: But it's it was the idea that people can't get over the planes crashing into the World Trade Center, but then not coming out the other side at the speed that they were going.
- 19:55SPEAKER_10: Um you know, there's never any accounting for the fact that, okay, then what was it?
- 19:59SPEAKER_10: Anyway, what I saw, and I had never heard this before, was new I'm assuming it's AI generated, but new AI generated footage basically showing how the structure of the Twin Towers relating to the speed of the aircraft hitting it, it was essentially like sending the plane into uh like a cheese grater.
- 20:23SPEAKER_10: Like the way that the twin towers are built with the columns and the way that they're spaced, the moment the plane hit and went into the building, it basically just shredded it into oblivion.
- 20:36SPEAKER_10: I I I had never seen, I mean, I've seen a lot of footage and recreations of this before, but I had never seen the specificity relating to the construction of the building and how that construction of the building had an immediate impact on just basically just completely in a moment just decimating the airplane, which is why you get the big explosion that takes place on the backside with debris coming out, but there is no physical crash because the craft was immediately uh destroyed in the process.
- 21:05SPEAKER_10: Just again, incredibly, incredibly uh tragic.
- 21:08SPEAKER_10: Uh, as your comments roll in, and I want to get a chance to preview uh some of these here on the John Justice show presented by American Experiment.
- 21:16SPEAKER_10: Let's go here briefly, and I have some audio that I want to share.
- 21:18SPEAKER_10: Uh, this is one of the stories I didn't get a chance to get to uh yesterday on the show.
- 21:23SPEAKER_10: Uh here's an update, though.
- 21:25SPEAKER_10: Brooklyn Center Super 8 has also been named in a federal sex trafficking lawsuit.
- 21:31SPEAKER_10: So um earlier this week, there was a massive raid that had taken place in Brooklyn Center.
- 21:38SPEAKER_10: Uh it was the Super 8 on James Circle.
- 21:41SPEAKER_10: This was on Wednesday.
- 21:42SPEAKER_10: Uh, this was a prostitution, sex trafficking, illegal drugs, and firearm uh firearms raid.
- 21:49SPEAKER_10: All part of the focus.
- 21:50SPEAKER_10: Brooklyn Center police chief uh Garrett uh Fesslin said the investigation started a year ago.
- 21:55SPEAKER_10: I've been a cop for 26 years.
- 21:57SPEAKER_10: I've never been a part of an investigation.
- 21:59SPEAKER_10: This Complex and this large.
- 22:03SPEAKER_10: Huge story earlier this week.
- 22:05SPEAKER_10: When asked whether current hostel hotel staff were being investigated, the Brooklyn Center police chief wouldn't confirm it, but didn't rule it out either.
- 22:13SPEAKER_10: No stone is going left unturned, and I'm not going to be get pre uh any preconceived any idea of any final outcome, but it's all being looked at.
- 22:25SPEAKER_10: This update from Fox 9 says a federal lawsuit is alleging that a 15-year-old girl was sex trafficked at the Brooklyn Center Super 8 Hotel going back to 2013.
- 22:37SPEAKER_10: We had actually talked about this hotel in the previous iteration of the show when there was a raid regarding just the deplorable conditions at this location.
- 22:51SPEAKER_10: The lawsuit claims that hotel staff ignored uh the signs of trafficking, including visible bruising and a girl being forced to wear uh provocative clothing.
- 23:00SPEAKER_10: The hotel's previous owners deny any knowledge or profit from trafficking.
- 23:05SPEAKER_10: Uh we have a systemic crime issue going on here in uh, you know, Metro Minneapolis and extending beyond the borders of Minneapolis.
- 23:15SPEAKER_10: This is an example of that.
- 23:16SPEAKER_10: We had the shooting that took place in Bloomington the other day.
- 23:19SPEAKER_10: There was a mass amounts of violence taking place in Dinky Town over the weekend.
- 23:24SPEAKER_10: I cannot go through a day on the prep looking at the local news outlets without shootings, homicides, these types of raids.
- 23:35SPEAKER_10: We've got to get some accountability going.
- 23:38SPEAKER_10: I mean, this is all an extension of the social justice mentality of too many of our uh attorney, you know, our county prosecutors, the attorney general.
- 23:49SPEAKER_10: You know, the left wants to talk about these systemic issues all the time.
- 23:53SPEAKER_10: This is the systemic problem that we're dealing with right now that we need to get a grip on.
- 23:57SPEAKER_10: And it absolutely, just like the other stories, is avoidable if we just start showing some accountability and holding people responsible for their actions.
- 24:07SPEAKER_10: In the meantime, there was a story this morning about the new Minnesota law where they're not going to be trying any 13-year-olds, even if they're involved in an adult level crime, they'll be sent to a juvenile uh facility.
- 24:20SPEAKER_10: We're just we are adding to this problem, not making it any better.
- 24:25SPEAKER_10: Here was some of the press conference uh from, I believe, the uh Brooklyn uh police department, uh, the Brooklyn Park Police Department earlier this week.
- 24:34SPEAKER_10: Um, right uh after the raid had uh taken place.
- 24:37SPEAKER_10: This is courtesy of Fox 9.
- 24:39SPEAKER_01: I've been a cop for 26 years.
- 24:40SPEAKER_01: I've never been a part of an investigation this complex, this large.
- 24:44SPEAKER_01: I don't honestly know how far some of these puzzle pieces would go.
- 24:49SPEAKER_01: Today, participating agencies executed 31 court-authorized search warrants at four hotels within Brooklyn Center.
- 24:56SPEAKER_01: Our preliminary information that I can report right now is that approximately 23 individuals have been arrested.
- 25:03SPEAKER_01: Preliminary firearms recovery count is at least seven.
- 25:07SPEAKER_01: We've also recovered approximately one and a half pounds of drugs and right around$7,000 or uh$9,000 in cash.
- 25:15SPEAKER_01: The suspected offenses underlying probable cause arrests today include promotion of prostitution, sex trafficking, drug possession, drug manufacturing, and possession of firearms by prohibited persons, among other offenses.
- 25:29SPEAKER_01: It helps to understand a little bit about the call history of the two primary properties today.
- 25:34SPEAKER_01: The figures I'm about to share apply specifically to Super 8 and Travel Lodge from January 1st, 2025 through August 27, 2026.
- 25:44SPEAKER_01: They are historical figures separate from today's results.
- 25:47SPEAKER_01: During that period, the Super 8 generated approximately 1,300 calls for service, the Travel Lodge approximately 975.
- 25:56SPEAKER_01: They were the two highest individual locations for calls for service within Brooklyn Center.
- 26:01SPEAKER_01: Together, the properties accounted for 246 arrests, including 15 violent crime arrests and 53 violent crime-related calls involving assaults, robberies, shootings, shots fired, sex crimes, and weapons offenses.
- 26:16SPEAKER_01: We also responded to over 100 reported drug overdoses at these two properties, or approximately 24% of all reported drug overdoses in Brooklyn Center during this time.
- 26:27SPEAKER_01: Behind those numbers are people who have experienced violence, exploitation, addiction, and repeated emergencies.
- 26:46SPEAKER_10: Why does it, and this is probably a conversation for another day, but how is it that that much illegal activity, dangerous activity, how is it allowed to continue for as long as it is without anything stopping?
- 27:03SPEAKER_10: That I just I it doesn't make it that doesn't make any sense to me at all.
- 27:11SPEAKER_10: It makes no sense to me whatsoever that you would have that that volume of calls to a particular location and everybody involved, from law enforcement to those that run the facility to the management company, uh, you know, the property owners, nothing gets done for that period of time.
- 27:29SPEAKER_10: Then only when we have this massive raid, the likes of with this the likes of which this police chief has never seen before does actually something happen.
- 27:38SPEAKER_10: I just did that.
- 27:41SPEAKER_10: It's the it is the quintessential make it make sense.
- 27:45SPEAKER_27: The state of Minnesota is a shy remembrance of itself.
- 27:49SPEAKER_27: Our crime problem is off the charts.
- 27:52SPEAKER_27: We used to have some judges in the state and county attorneys in the state that actually would deal with the crime.
- 28:00SPEAKER_27: Right now the judges are jolt.
- 28:03SPEAKER_27: These prosecutors are jolt.
- 28:07SPEAKER_27: You should be embarrassed of the job that you're doing, but you're just destroying not only the state of Minnesota, the confidence of Minnesota, but the humanity in the state.
- 28:18SPEAKER_27: Police officers can only do so much in arresting so many people and handing them over to the attorneys to charge.
- 28:24SPEAKER_27: And the judges to prosecute and and do their judicial end of things.
- 28:29SPEAKER_27: Those guys are failing right now.
- 28:31SPEAKER_27: The police officers are doing whatever they can do to get them in the front door, and these judges and attorneys are just opening the back door and letting them out.
- 28:39SPEAKER_27: Minnesota is becoming a joke of the judicial system.
- 28:45SPEAKER_27: Have a good weekend, guys.
- 28:46SPEAKER_10: Yeah, you too.
- 28:47SPEAKER_10: Thank you so much for the uh for the blast.
- 28:49SPEAKER_10: I appreciate it.
- 28:50SPEAKER_10: Uh 651-964-0294.
- 28:54SPEAKER_10: We'll talk about this in more detail later on in the show.
- 28:57SPEAKER_10: Liz Collin put up a post yesterday.
- 28:59SPEAKER_10: In May of 2020, Minneapolis had nearly 888 police officers.
- 29:04SPEAKER_10: Several sources have told them that there are now only 395 officers.
- 29:13SPEAKER_10: 29 of them are still in field training.
- 29:16SPEAKER_10: They also learned that 211 of those officers were hired from 2021 onward.
- 29:23SPEAKER_10: So more than half have five years of experience or or less.
- 29:29SPEAKER_10: And what is the city of Minneapolis putting out online?
- 29:34SPEAKER_10: I'll share with you the audio later on.
- 29:36SPEAKER_10: But the city of Minneapolis, your tax dollars in Minneapolis is going to promote propaganda.
- 29:42SPEAKER_10: It is a slickly produced video.
- 29:45SPEAKER_10: It's about a minute long.
- 29:47SPEAKER_10: You know what?
- 29:48SPEAKER_10: I'll go ahead.
- 29:49SPEAKER_10: I'll just I'll do what I always said I'm not going to do, and I can go ahead and I'll go ahead and share it with you here since we're since we're on it.
- 29:54SPEAKER_10: And then we'll uh get into some more of your 9-11 uh comments and the other news of the day.
- 29:59SPEAKER_10: But this is a this is in my opinion, nothing more than a propaganda, a piece of propaganda.
- 30:04SPEAKER_10: It is a slickly done produced video with restaurant owners talking about what happened with Operation Metro Search and the impact that it's had.
- 30:15SPEAKER_10: And I just want to point out before I play you this audio that again, if you're here ill if you're here legally, you have nothing to worry about.
- 30:23SPEAKER_10: ICE wasn't targeting those that were here legally.
- 30:26SPEAKER_10: But if you're employing individuals who are illegal aliens, if you are an illegal alien, you made a choice to not respect the laws and the sovereignty of this country.
- 30:36SPEAKER_10: I I just I don't have any sympathy there.
- 30:38SPEAKER_10: There are a lot of sad stories attached to it.
- 30:40SPEAKER_10: I understand people that came here illegally that ended up making lies for themselves and they contribute positively to the community.
- 30:47SPEAKER_10: I get all that, but none of that is an excuse for the fact that you are continually breaking the law, which is why that term illegal is absolutely appropriate.
- 30:57SPEAKER_10: But this is the audio from that.
- 30:59SPEAKER_10: So while all this is going on, while Minneapolis doesn't have enough police officers, all the stories of crime, and again, I'm painting a broad picture here, right?
- 31:06SPEAKER_10: Because what we were talking about with Brooklyn Park doesn't necessarily have anything to do with the city of Minneapolis.
- 31:11SPEAKER_10: It's the same thing with Bloomington, but Dinky Town certainly does.
- 31:15SPEAKER_10: And what is the city of Minneapolis focused on?
- 31:18SPEAKER_10: Ridiculous, slickly produced taxpayer-funded pieces like this.
- 31:22SPEAKER_23: We started uh the food drive, the beginning of the ice rates.
- 31:25SPEAKER_40: The first weekend we did to 50 families.
- 31:29SPEAKER_23: To be more secure, we had walkie-talkies just to communicate each other.
- 31:33SPEAKER_40: He started locking the doors.
- 31:35SPEAKER_23: Just to be careful with all the ice agents that will pass by the barbershop.
- 31:40SPEAKER_40: But there is nothing else that we knew because we've never been in that situation.
- 31:45SPEAKER_23: My parents are Mexican immigrants.
- 31:47SPEAKER_40: They came here to give me a Mexican place a better life.
- 31:50SPEAKER_23: Immigrant people were getting detained, so we want to help out.
- 31:56SPEAKER_40: It was kind of like unbelievable for us to like, like, what is going on?
- 32:00SPEAKER_23: Like, what do we do?
- 32:02SPEAKER_23: We started out with a food drive at the beginning of the ice week.
- 32:05SPEAKER_40: The first weekend we did to 50 families.
- 32:08SPEAKER_23: Vegetables, fruits, potatoes, bread, eggs, meat, ice cream, stuff, or even uh for babies, formula, pampers, wipes.
- 32:17SPEAKER_40: We also had pet food for the pads we would deliver every Sunday from 12 to 5.
- 32:24SPEAKER_40: We just had an army of volunteer drivers just showing up.
- 32:27SPEAKER_40: We had up to like 40 routes.
- 32:29SPEAKER_40: People downstairs helping with packing around the shop, just people waiting for the routes for more than five months.
- 32:36SPEAKER_40: And he was there for sure.
- 32:38SPEAKER_40: And it's still there for people that are behind rents, bills, even groceries.
- 32:43SPEAKER_40: I know that ICE is still here, so we'll just keep doing, even if it's like trying to like get funds for rent or some bills or something, we'll do what we can.
- 32:54SPEAKER_23: It's a blessing because we need more people to help out our community.
- 32:59SPEAKER_23: I feel like it can get better in the future.
- 33:06SPEAKER_10: I haven't made this um comment in quite a long time.
- 33:10SPEAKER_10: And again, that was a slickly produced video posted by the official City of Minneapolis X account.
- 33:20SPEAKER_10: That's what your taxpayer dollars are going to.
- 33:22SPEAKER_10: That's what the city of Minneapolis is using to try to attract tourism.
- 33:26SPEAKER_10: It's propaganda.
- 33:27SPEAKER_10: There's no other way to slice it.
- 33:30SPEAKER_10: And it cracks me up because the leftists that want to go and defend those that are in a constant state of illegality pushback on the lawful law enforcement of ICE, they typically go and demonize and vilify the United States.
- 33:50SPEAKER_10: I mean, as you know, by extension, when you look at the DSA movement, the communists that have taken over the Democrat Party, there's this constant refrain of how horrible and awful the United States is.
- 34:00SPEAKER_10: But yet it runs headlong into two different things.
- 34:03SPEAKER_10: One, the fact that people continue to come here and did by the millions during the Biden administration because they were allowed to.
- 34:10SPEAKER_10: If we're such a horrible, awful country, then why do so many millions flock to the United States of America?
- 34:16SPEAKER_10: Not to mention the fact that one of the whole reasons, why not the reason why we were attacked on 9-11 25 years later was because of our American exceptionalism.
- 34:25SPEAKER_10: Because of the envy that the radical Islamists had and how much they hated the West and it pushes back on what they believe.
- 34:36SPEAKER_10: And yet here we are with New York having a mayor 25 years later, that if you had that two, three, five years later, if you had told people in New York City that Zohran Mamdani would be mayor today, they would have laughed in your face.
- 34:53SPEAKER_10: Ah, but this is what happens when people are not taught the truth in total and totality of what took place on that fateful day.
- 35:02SPEAKER_10: You don't learn history, you're doomed to repeat it.
- 35:05SPEAKER_10: Hopefully, everybody is waking up.
- 35:07SPEAKER_10: And hopefully that's going to be a topic of conversation today on the 25th anniversary of 9-11.
- 35:12SPEAKER_10: I got an email that came in from Chuck, John.justice at AmericanExperiment.org.
- 35:17SPEAKER_10: I was in my office when uh the radio personality said a small plane has hit the World Trade Center.
- 35:22SPEAKER_10: That's pretty much the way that uh Sideshow Dan, who did our news and traffic out of Los Angeles at the time, because the station I was working at was in uh San Bernardino, just outside of LA.
- 35:31SPEAKER_10: That's how he had how he had described it.
- 35:33SPEAKER_10: I think that was the official word that was coming out when the first plane hit, that it was just a small plane.
- 35:37SPEAKER_10: Uh Chuck says, I went down to nine uh to the 911 dispatch room since it had been slow, a slow morning for them.
- 35:45SPEAKER_10: They were watching sitcom reruns.
- 35:47SPEAKER_10: I told them about the plane and they thought I was joking.
- 35:49SPEAKER_10: As we turned on the news, I remember saying to the dispatchers, that was no small plane.
- 35:53SPEAKER_10: The sky is crystal clear.
- 35:55SPEAKER_10: That was intentional.
- 35:56SPEAKER_10: As we watched the report, we saw the second plane approach and hit the second tower.
- 35:59SPEAKER_10: It was horrifying.
- 36:00SPEAKER_10: Never forget and never ever give up.
- 36:03SPEAKER_10: Uh, thank you so much for the um for the email, Chuck.
- 36:05SPEAKER_10: All right.
- 36:06SPEAKER_10: I see your comments continue to roll into the blaster line on a Freedom Friday.
- 36:09SPEAKER_10: Max Reimer, representative, running a little bit behind, but he'll be here uh shortly to uh join us, as will Grace and Catherine at the top of the hour.
- 36:16SPEAKER_10: And your on and off topic comments all morning long.
- 36:19SPEAKER_10: Uh, there is new audio to share.
- 36:21SPEAKER_10: We're not gonna spend a ton of time on it this morning, but there's a new juror audio to share from the Lindsey Clancy case.
- 36:28SPEAKER_10: And I have a couple of stories, including one locally, that end up demonstrating that we're heading into a very dangerous pattern right now when it comes to individuals being identified as having mental health issues and then not being held accountable for their actions.
- 36:46SPEAKER_10: So we will dive into that coming up and of course the audio coverage and a bit of a recap of the midterm Republican National Convention in Dallas.
- 36:55SPEAKER_10: In the meantime, I just want to mention I got a great night's sleep last night.
- 36:58SPEAKER_10: That's right.
- 36:59SPEAKER_10: I was gonna stay up a little bit later because heading into Friday, it's Friday, you know, I could take a nap in the afternoon on Fridays, a little bit longer, relax.
- 37:06SPEAKER_10: But you know what?
- 37:06SPEAKER_10: I said, No, I'm gonna get to bed early.
- 37:08SPEAKER_10: I want to get a good night's sleep, and I did.
- 37:10SPEAKER_10: I took me a night gummy from mini leaf.
- 37:12SPEAKER_10: I was out.
- 37:13SPEAKER_10: I ended up waking up because I went to bed a little bit early and my clock got off.
- 37:16SPEAKER_10: I ended up waking up, I don't know, around midnight and uh was up for a minute or two, and then uh guess what?
- 37:21SPEAKER_10: I fell back asleep.
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- 37:36SPEAKER_10: Right now I'm using the sleep blend.
- 37:38SPEAKER_10: It's the colorful packaging.
- 37:39SPEAKER_10: Uh they taste great, made with all natural ingredients.
- 37:42SPEAKER_10: That was crucial for me.
- 37:44SPEAKER_10: And again, my cardiologist uh signed off and approved on these.
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- 38:05SPEAKER_10: Uh, but for me, it's the night gummies that have been the absolute game changer.
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- 40:03SPEAKER_10: Six five one nine six four zero two nine four is the blaster line where you can text or leave a voice message.
- 40:10SPEAKER_10: Uh Mike from Shorewood uh writes in, what time do you go to bed?
- 40:14SPEAKER_10: Six thirty.
- 40:15SPEAKER_10: I'm usually out by usually out by seven thirty.
- 40:19SPEAKER_10: So there you go.
- 40:20SPEAKER_10: I'm happy to send forward my uh my schedule to anybody who would be curious to uh to hear it.
- 40:25SPEAKER_10: Hey, I'm staring at a uh representative and his name is uh Maxwell Reimer.
- 40:30SPEAKER_10: Good morning, Max.
- 40:30SPEAKER_10: How are we doing this morning?
- 40:31SPEAKER_10: Good morning.
- 40:32SPEAKER_10: I'm here.
- 40:33SPEAKER_10: It's good to see you.
- 40:34SPEAKER_10: I did not go to bed at 6 30.
- 40:35SPEAKER_10: Yeah, what time did you go to bed last night?
- 40:37SPEAKER_10: Since we're all since since we're sharing.
- 40:39SPEAKER_09: Late.
- 40:40SPEAKER_09: I don't have to do this every day, so I can I can afford to go to bed at uh past midnight on Tuesday and get up.
- 40:47SPEAKER_10: I don't like it the other way.
- 40:49SPEAKER_10: Like the first couple of weeks, for like two and a half weeks after we got back from our America 250 road trip, I kept calling it Road Trip 2026, and then I realized, no man, this was an America 250 road trip.
- 41:01SPEAKER_10: We traveled 5,000 miles across this great land.
- 41:04SPEAKER_10: Patriotic.
- 41:05SPEAKER_10: Exactly.
- 41:06SPEAKER_10: Um, so when we got back, it was about what?
- 41:09SPEAKER_10: It was about what, two and a half weeks, Isaac, right?
- 41:11SPEAKER_10: To get everything set up to go.
- 41:12SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
- 41:13SPEAKER_10: So I was working more of a traditional schedule.
- 41:16SPEAKER_10: I was doing like a like a like a an 8 to 4, and then I was getting earlier and earlier.
- 41:20SPEAKER_10: Man, I just hated it.
- 41:22SPEAKER_10: I just did you not like an early morning riser, and I did not like uh having to uh uh to to work those hours.
- 41:32SPEAKER_10: So I like it this way.
- 41:33SPEAKER_10: Uh good to see you this morning.
- 41:34SPEAKER_10: Good to be here on this 25th anniversary of uh of 9-11.
- 41:37SPEAKER_10: We're gonna get into a couple of uh uh local uh local items.
- 41:41SPEAKER_10: Uh first off, though, I do have some audio relating to, we won't spend a ton of time on it, as I mentioned, but um some updates on the Lindsey Clancy fallout, more commentary from the from another juror, uh, but also a few other stories that relate to this larger problem that I see forming.
- 41:56SPEAKER_10: And we'll get into this in just a moment.
- 41:59SPEAKER_10: First off, though, since it is the anniversary of of uh of 9-11, uh 25 years on.
- 42:04SPEAKER_10: So how old were how old were you?
- 42:06SPEAKER_10: We probably had this conversation before, but I've forgotten.
- 42:08SPEAKER_09: I was in fifth grade.
- 42:10SPEAKER_09: Okay.
- 42:11SPEAKER_10: Did it register to you being in fifth grade?
- 42:13SPEAKER_10: Like did you under did did you did you understand the gravity of what had taken place at the time?
- 42:18SPEAKER_09: No, not at first.
- 42:19SPEAKER_09: And what had happened, it was in Miss Redenza's social studies class that I learned of it.
- 42:25SPEAKER_09: And when you hear planes are crashing into towers, it was kind of like, well, people are gonna be okay because they hit the eject button.
- 42:34SPEAKER_09: That was my that was my thought as a fifth grader.
- 42:37SPEAKER_09: Oh my gosh.
- 42:38SPEAKER_09: And uh then you you got home, you saw kind of all the film of it, and it looked like a movie, right?
- 42:44SPEAKER_09: You're not fully grasping it because the only place you've ever seen something like that was again in film or in TV shows or something like that.
- 42:54SPEAKER_09: I don't think it, I don't think it really hits you when you're a fifth grader, but I think it became pretty clear when my parents were upset about it that this was this was a serious thing.
- 43:04SPEAKER_10: On a uh Freedom Friday, as I said, we're gonna navigate between the serious and the and the silly today.
- 43:10SPEAKER_10: Um, and I feel like that's uh that's appropriate.
- 43:12SPEAKER_10: I mean, freedom was attacked that day, and it is a freedom Friday.
- 43:15SPEAKER_10: And I feel like it's important to make sure that we continue to celebrate to celebrate life as we kind of balance things out.
- 43:20SPEAKER_10: Uh before we get into isn't it wild those 25 years?
- 43:24SPEAKER_10: I doesn't I doesn't convince that is insane.
- 43:26SPEAKER_10: Yeah, yeah.
- 43:27SPEAKER_10: And it's it's interesting from a personal standpoint because um it it tracks with my curve my radio career, because that was early on when I was doing rock radio, and like there's not a lot of reminiscing that I do about that time period.
- 43:41SPEAKER_10: Most of my thoughts with radio, it's always been you want to forget that time period?
- 43:45SPEAKER_10: No, not necessarily.
- 43:46SPEAKER_10: It's just, you know, it's like I it's like the guy that I was working with that I was doing the show with in Riverside San Bernardino when he had the opportunity to do some um, you know, hot talk on an FM talk station when the hot talk stations, you know, it was rock radio.
- 44:00SPEAKER_10: Without the rock.
- 44:01SPEAKER_10: It's also stupid back then.
- 44:03unknown: So dumb.
- 44:04SPEAKER_10: But you know, we we filled in for a week for Scotty Pharrell.
- 44:07SPEAKER_10: I don't know if you're familiar with Scotty Pharrell, the famed sportscaster.
- 44:11SPEAKER_10: And we got done with that week, and he goes, you know, you're a lot better at doing the talk thing than you are doing the rock thing.
- 44:16SPEAKER_10: And I was like, Really?
- 44:17SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
- 44:17SPEAKER_10: It's like you put and I think it was more that I put a lot more effort into it.
- 44:20SPEAKER_10: Sure.
- 44:21SPEAKER_10: Right?
- 44:21SPEAKER_10: So, um, so before we get into some more uh audio from new new audio from different jurors we haven't heard from in the Lindsay Clancy case, I did have a couple of blasts that rolled in.
- 44:32SPEAKER_10: I played that, what I believe is a piece of propaganda created by the city of Minneapolis being put out on the uh city of Minneapolis uh X feed.
- 44:41SPEAKER_10: Did you have a chance to hear the the produced piece?
- 44:44SPEAKER_10: No.
- 44:44SPEAKER_10: It was two different restaurant owners in downtown Minneapolis, slickly produced, had all the all the somber music behind it, talking about Operation Metro Surge and how difficult it's been.
- 44:55SPEAKER_10: It was straight it was straight up, it was straight up propaganda.
- 44:58SPEAKER_28: Damn, John.
- 44:59SPEAKER_28: That video from the city of Minneapolis.
- 45:02SPEAKER_28: I'm telling you.
- 45:03SPEAKER_28: Um what they are doing is they're intentionally creating a permanent underclass, a shadow citizenry.
- 45:12SPEAKER_28: Uh for what purpose?
- 45:13SPEAKER_28: To fuel their power?
- 45:15SPEAKER_28: To work on Nancy Pelosi's plantations?
- 45:18SPEAKER_28: Like what do they think is going to happen when these people crawl through the muck to get here illegally?
- 45:24SPEAKER_28: It's it's insane.
- 45:25SPEAKER_28: Why why would they try to perpetuate this?
- 45:27SPEAKER_28: Like, healthy-brained people would not do that every Friday.
- 45:32SPEAKER_10: Well, no, you know, listen, they do it to perpetuate the narrative.
- 45:34SPEAKER_10: It continues on a daily basis.
- 45:36SPEAKER_10: I mean, every at least one of the many specific to Minneapolis and Minnesota websites that I go to, at least one of them every single day for the course of the past month has had an article relating to Operation Metro Surge, even if there wasn't any new news.
- 45:52SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
- 45:52SPEAKER_10: Yeah, it's intentional.
- 45:53SPEAKER_10: They're campaign, they're campaigning off of it.
- 45:55SPEAKER_10: They're absolutely campaigning off of it.
- 45:57SPEAKER_10: Let's go here.
- 45:58SPEAKER_46: Ae John, talk about propaganda.
- 46:00SPEAKER_46: How about the National Hispanic Heritage Awards that were filmed last night at Minneapolis um Orchestra Hall that's normally at Kennedy Center?
- 46:10SPEAKER_46: And then the humanitarian award was awarded to the people of Minnesota because of the Operation Metro Surge.
- 46:18SPEAKER_46: This is ridiculous.
- 46:19SPEAKER_46: It's going to be aired in PDF.
- 46:22SPEAKER_46: That is some severe, severe left-wing propaganda, especially with all this ICE stuff and immigration.
- 46:30SPEAKER_46: It's just it's disgraceful in Minnesota.
- 46:32SPEAKER_46: It's just such an embarrassment all around.
- 46:35SPEAKER_46: Have a great Freedom Friday.
- 46:37SPEAKER_46: Can't wait to see the people come on.
- 46:38SPEAKER_46: Gonna miss AK.
- 46:40SPEAKER_46: Have a great weekend too.
- 46:41SPEAKER_46: Thanks, Bye.
- 46:42SPEAKER_10: Even listen, I just even from just a humanitarian what humanitarian work was done?
- 46:48SPEAKER_10: The water bottles that were thrown at ICE agents at the time, it wasn't just to give them a humanitarian award, that isn't even even if you don't like what ICE did, what the Trump administration did with Operation Metro Surge, to go and try to talk about the efforts of those that took to the streets and got in their way as a humanitarian effort is sheer ridiculousness.
- 47:09SPEAKER_09: No doubt.
- 47:10SPEAKER_09: That is ridiculous, and there's nothing human humanitarian about what some of these protesters were doing.
- 47:16SPEAKER_09: I wonder if they're gonna feature still shots of the big rubbery appendages that were stuck on cards.
- 47:26SPEAKER_10: Well, we can say dildos now.
- 47:28SPEAKER_10: I mean, we probably could have said it on the before.
- 47:31SPEAKER_10: I just didn't want to, but we can certainly, you know, I called them dimdos, but now we can say dildos.
- 47:36SPEAKER_09: To the first blaster's point, though, it's so true.
- 47:39SPEAKER_09: I I've seen now articles about these wealthy people losing their gardeners and stuff like that because they were illegal immigrants.
- 47:48SPEAKER_09: And what these people don't understand is you really are creating you don't want to call it like a slave labor class, but that is what it is.
- 47:57SPEAKER_09: It's you're not being compassionate when you're defending I get to underpay my laborers or gardeners or what have you.
- 48:05SPEAKER_09: I I think that's what's disturbing about the whole narrative is that wow, you you all were really comfortable with just like a permanent underclass of people not being paid American wages.
- 48:16SPEAKER_10: Well, what I don't think most people realize is that it serves as the example of what Democrats would want to do to everybody if they could.
- 48:24SPEAKER_10: Right.
- 48:24SPEAKER_10: They would want, you know, we've already made, as we'll get into, and we talked about earlier this week, they've already turned just women in general as a into a protected class.
- 48:34SPEAKER_10: But ultimately, when it comes to the socialism and what really is when you back up further totalitarianism, they do.
- 48:40SPEAKER_10: They want everybody under the rule of government.
- 48:42SPEAKER_10: They want basically everybody to be in the same position that an illegal immigrant would be in here in the country, where the government will provide you services, they'll make sure that they support your mediocre lifestyle.
- 48:53SPEAKER_10: You will have entertainment, but only the approved and just enough entertainment.
- 48:58SPEAKER_10: You won't be able to excel in anything, you'll be kept down.
- 49:02SPEAKER_10: The government will support your mediocre lifestyle.
- 49:04SPEAKER_10: And what they're doing with the illegal immigrant population is essentially the example of what they would do to average American citizens if they were given the chance.
- 49:12SPEAKER_09: Right.
- 49:12SPEAKER_09: Socialism is not about creating prosperity for everybody, it is about bringing everybody low.
- 49:18SPEAKER_09: It is more punitive to people who have earned uh a good living or created success for themselves.
- 49:24SPEAKER_09: That is the end, the end goal of socialism.
- 49:28SPEAKER_21: Let's go uh here and hear from Friend of the Show.
- 49:30SPEAKER_21: Good morning, John Rich here.
- 49:32SPEAKER_21: So the reason why they keep regurgitating this ice thing in Minneapolis is for one reason.
- 49:38SPEAKER_21: They gotta have something to run on to drag it across the finish line to the midterms.
- 49:43SPEAKER_35: Yep.
- 49:44SPEAKER_21: Trump is bad.
- 49:45SPEAKER_21: Trump is always to blame for everything.
- 49:47SPEAKER_21: Even the Clancy case are trying to pin on Trump.
- 49:50SPEAKER_10: Well, and to that point, let's go here.
- 49:53SPEAKER_10: Let's go.
- 49:53SPEAKER_10: You're right.
- 49:54SPEAKER_10: And see the memes going around where they say I it's unbelievable that suddenly now um not murdering your children has become a conservative position.
- 50:03SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
- 50:03SPEAKER_09: Although it actually has been a conservative position.
- 50:05SPEAKER_09: It's always been that this is a long time.
- 50:08SPEAKER_09: This is the extension of abortion.
- 50:11SPEAKER_09: It it truly is.
- 50:12SPEAKER_09: When you devalue any life, you devalue all life.
- 50:16SPEAKER_10: Yeah, I've been saying I've been saying it since the start of the fallout of that.
- 50:20SPEAKER_10: I completely, I completely agree.
- 50:22SPEAKER_10: It is the end game of the slippery slope when you look at the issue relating to young people.
- 50:26SPEAKER_10: Um, with that, let's go here.
- 50:28SPEAKER_10: So Hannepin County District Court ruled Thursday that Taylor uh Schultz is not guilty of killing a Minneapolis grocery uh clerk by reason of mental illness.
- 50:40SPEAKER_10: Schultz was accused of beating a 66-year-old Robert uh Skofte with a golf club at the Loring Park Oak Grove Grocery on December 6th of 2023.
- 50:52SPEAKER_10: Uh Skofty's friends told Kara Levin that he was a well-respected and longtime fixture in the Twin Cities community, will be remembered as an avid gardener and acclaimed dancer.
- 51:00SPEAKER_10: The Hennepin County judge ruled in 2024 that Schultz was incompetent to stand trial for killing the individual due to a court-ordered psychological evaluation in a press release yesterday.
- 51:12SPEAKER_10: The office of Hennepin County attorney stated, there is no doubt that Taylor Schultz killed Robert Skofty.
- 51:18SPEAKER_10: The judge ruled that Schultz will be indefinitely committed to uh the Minnesota Security Hospital in St.
- 51:23SPEAKER_10: Peter.
- 51:24SPEAKER_10: Now, I don't know the details of the story.
- 51:25SPEAKER_10: I just found it interesting that once again we have another story here of a man who was found not guilty, even though he straight up murdered somebody for mental mental illness.
- 51:34SPEAKER_09: And just imagine being a 66-year-old grocery store clerk and going into work and meeting your untimely end this way.
- 51:42SPEAKER_09: We don't have to live like that.
- 51:44SPEAKER_10: Nope, we don't.
- 51:46SPEAKER_10: This is a uh new piece of audio from another another juror.
- 51:50SPEAKER_10: Okay.
- 51:51SPEAKER_10: Uh this is Paula served on the Lindsey Clancy trial, reflecting on the holdout that prevented them from reaching the unanimous verdict.
- 52:01SPEAKER_10: Uh, I'm gonna forget, so I'll mention it up front before I play the audio.
- 52:04SPEAKER_10: Um not uh who is the uh it's not Caroline Levitt.
- 52:09SPEAKER_10: She's sir, she's on Fox News.
- 52:11SPEAKER_10: She did serve for a while as a White House, a White House press secretary.
- 52:14SPEAKER_10: Kaylee McNaney.
- 52:15SPEAKER_10: Yes, yes, yes, Kaylee McNaney.
- 52:17SPEAKER_10: Um she posted a video yesterday on social media from Fox News basically imploring the loan holdout to reach out to Fox News so that they could interview them.
- 52:27SPEAKER_09: And I'm like, no, no, no, I've seen that too.
- 52:30SPEAKER_09: I have seen people make offers for this lone juror to come on and tell their story.
- 52:37SPEAKER_09: You you can't.
- 52:38SPEAKER_09: No, you can't.
- 52:39SPEAKER_09: Do you not realize where we are at coming off of the anniversary of Charlie Kirk's assassination in this country?
- 52:46SPEAKER_09: The the magnitude of your decision, which was a consequential and important decision, and we're all behind you.
- 52:55SPEAKER_09: There are people that want you dead right now for that decision.
- 52:58SPEAKER_09: Oh, yeah.
- 52:59SPEAKER_09: And they will take action to do it.
- 53:02SPEAKER_09: Like you can't, you cannot do I I hope for that juror's sake that he doesn't see this as an opportunity to get famous like these other jurors are trying to do, because his life will be in danger if he does this.
- 53:14SPEAKER_10: I'm kind of surprised they haven't we haven't figured out, or his name hasn't been revealed yet.
- 53:19SPEAKER_10: I have to imagine.
- 53:20SPEAKER_09: Apparently, that uh my understanding is, and if James Dickey is listening, maybe you can correct me if uh he's been texting me this for a while.
- 53:27SPEAKER_09: Yeah, maybe he can correct me if I'm wrong.
- 53:28SPEAKER_09: But my understanding is you you can't you you basically can't reveal them unless they unless they come out themselves and and say it.
- 53:37SPEAKER_09: There's some rule against it.
- 53:38SPEAKER_10: So if any of the jurors were to go and release and like name him, they would get in, they'd be in hot water, I think.
- 53:44SPEAKER_10: Alright, so here's uh here's more audio from another juror.
- 53:47SPEAKER_10: Just again, listen to the lunacy.
- 53:49SPEAKER_12: The judge has to believe that people are telling him the truth.
- 53:53SPEAKER_12: And so, you know, uh eleven people told the truth and one maybe didn't.
- 53:59SPEAKER_12: And I will never know why.
- 54:03SPEAKER_37: Do you think this case should just go away, be dismissed?
- 54:08SPEAKER_12: No, our verdict that the eleven of us had decided on was not guilty by reason of a mental illness, and we really feel that Lindsay needs to get the help she needs to give some justice to the children.
- 54:28SPEAKER_12: That her mother loved her and didn't know what she was doing when she did that.
- 54:36SPEAKER_12: And to get justice for them, the medical community needs to acknowledge that this exists and everybody can manifest it in a different way.
- 54:47SPEAKER_12: Like every women woman can have it in a different way.
- 54:50SPEAKER_12: It may not last one time, it may not last ten times, it could come and go.
- 54:55SPEAKER_12: That's all that's all the evidence that we looked at.
- 54:59SPEAKER_12: And you know, as far as I'm concerned, that's the thing that I would like people to hold on to.
- 55:05SPEAKER_12: Not that we had one person that didn't agree with the rest of the eleven of us.
- 55:10SPEAKER_12: It was that there was a clear indication that the medical community failed her.
- 55:17SPEAKER_12: They were looking for any excuse they could make not just her, but her whole family, because something like that affects the whole entire family.
- 55:25SPEAKER_12: And if everybody can be educated in a better way, then it will help the whole family unit.
- 55:31SPEAKER_10: You know what I heard in that clip?
- 55:32SPEAKER_10: I heard the influence of the other nurses that were on the jury that they were talking, we had talked about previously, where you can't do that.
- 55:38SPEAKER_10: Those other nurses were speaking to the toxicology reports, and you cannot use your alleged own expertise in order to influence uh any of your decisions while you're on the jury.
- 55:50SPEAKER_10: But uh I pulled this clip, and an individual who goes by Pat Brown on X pointed out this fact.
- 55:55SPEAKER_10: The lack of understanding that these juries have, this juror says we found her not guilty by reason of a mental illness.
- 56:02SPEAKER_10: There is no such verdict.
- 56:04SPEAKER_10: It's insanity, not mental illness.
- 56:06SPEAKER_10: The verdict is about justice, not for her to go and get help.
- 56:09SPEAKER_10: Yeah, she was gonna be getting help regardless.
- 56:12SPEAKER_09: She got help.
- 56:13SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
- 56:13SPEAKER_09: She she the facts are she got more help than your average mom going through postpartum got.
- 56:19SPEAKER_09: And I think what was interesting is when you hear these jurors now go on record, nothing they're saying, as we were all speculating about what was happening there, nothing they said dispelled what we originally thought was happening in there.
- 56:34SPEAKER_09: It was like a bunch of heavy-handed women who made a decision on this case very early on.
- 56:40SPEAKER_09: It sounds like bully their way into trying to get this verdict.
- 56:44SPEAKER_09: And again, I just thank God for that one juror who actually basically saw this case for what it was.
- 56:50SPEAKER_10: There was the the other male juror was interviewed.
- 56:54SPEAKER_10: I didn't grab the audio, um, but the other male juror was interviewed.
- 56:57SPEAKER_10: And again, completely unsurprising.
- 56:59SPEAKER_10: I don't know if you saw the clip.
- 57:01SPEAKER_10: Um, and he was it was again, you just I keep using the same terms, but it's just it's it's true.
- 57:07SPEAKER_10: It was unbelievable.
- 57:08SPEAKER_10: He was complaining that the holdout juror had grabbed a water bottle and actually brought in exercise bands to demonstrate the difficulty and the process of which uh uh Lindsey Clancy would have had to have gone through to do what she did.
- 57:26SPEAKER_09: You would hope they so that someone would do when you're on a deliberative body like a jury.
- 57:32SPEAKER_10: He's sitting back going, guys, do you not understand?
- 57:34SPEAKER_10: Let me here's a water bottle.
- 57:36SPEAKER_10: Here's what it takes to squeeze this water bottle with exercise bands.
- 57:39SPEAKER_10: And the guy, the the male juror, was like all taken aback by it, and like, well, that's what that's what happened.
- 57:46SPEAKER_09: You have to reconcile that.
- 57:48SPEAKER_09: She methodically killed her children one by one in the most brutal fashion, face down, so she wouldn't have to look at the faces of her babies as she was killing them.
- 58:01SPEAKER_09: Guess what?
- 58:02SPEAKER_09: Sorry you had to witness that juror, but I man, of all of the depressing things that we have seen about the status of our country and the unfortunate decline of America so far, that case has been such an eye-opener.
- 58:20SPEAKER_09: Oh, yeah.
- 58:21SPEAKER_09: These are people who walk among us, they vote, they make critical decisions every day, and you they cannot be objective.
- 58:30SPEAKER_09: Like that was depressing.
- 58:32SPEAKER_10: James Dickey uh is listening.
- 58:34SPEAKER_10: He wrote in uh the juror list is sealed until the 18th of this month.
- 58:39SPEAKER_10: But after that, he might not stay anonymous anymore.
- 58:42SPEAKER_10: Okay.
- 58:43SPEAKER_10: So that dude needs to be in witness.
- 58:45SPEAKER_10: I worry about his safety.
- 58:46SPEAKER_10: I I do.
- 58:47SPEAKER_10: One more clip on this.
- 58:48SPEAKER_10: Actually, two more.
- 58:49SPEAKER_10: First off, just for uh those that still want to contend that Lindsey Clancy didn't do this and it was the husband.
- 58:57SPEAKER_42: Here's the attorney repeatedly said and did during the trial and prior to the trial.
- 59:03SPEAKER_42: Listen to the 911 call.
- 59:05SPEAKER_42: And the gut wrench.
- 59:07SPEAKER_29: The public has not heard it.
- 59:08SPEAKER_29: The jury does.
- 59:08SPEAKER_29: I understand that.
- 59:09SPEAKER_42: The judge made that ruling, but this I've said repeatedly the gut-wrenching horror that that is in his voice.
- 59:16SPEAKER_42: No actor in in California could ever imitate that.
- 59:20SPEAKER_42: It's it's obvious that Patrick was a man who stood by his wife through all of the difficulty of the medical issues, the psychiatric issues, the pharmaceutical issues, and even up to the time of trial and even afterwards.
- 59:35SPEAKER_42: And the man ought to be able to move on with his life and stop with the speculation and horrific conspiracy allegations that he was involved with some massive conspiracies to kill his children.
- 1:00:18SPEAKER_10: So it is a John Justice show presented by American Experiment, heading into uh hour two.
- 1:00:23SPEAKER_10: Grace and Catherine will be here within the next 10 minutes or so.
- 1:00:26SPEAKER_10: Representative Max Reimer joins us in studio.
- 1:00:28SPEAKER_10: Uh, we were just sharing uh some of the more recent uh audio from uh more of the jurors in the Lindsey Clancy uh trial.
- 1:00:36SPEAKER_10: Uh I do have one story that's related to this that I want to talk about before we uh end up getting into a bit of a recap of the midterm uh RNC.
- 1:00:44SPEAKER_10: I'm curious to get Max's thoughts.
- 1:00:46SPEAKER_10: Uh of course, it also is the 25th anniversary of 9-11.
- 1:00:49SPEAKER_10: Uh so we'll be acknowledging that throughout the show uh this morning as we look back on 25 years since that uh horrible uh day.
- 1:00:57SPEAKER_10: And uh we'll share some of your thoughts and stories as they roll into the blaster line at 651-964-0294.
- 1:01:05SPEAKER_10: Uh, one more piece, actually, two more pieces of audio, one relating to Lindsay Clancy, but the other one sort of adjacent to it.
- 1:01:12SPEAKER_10: This clip here went viral yesterday.
- 1:01:14SPEAKER_10: I don't know if you've seen this yet, Representative uh Max Reimer, but a room full of women on the Oprah show start cheering after a doctor goes and expresses that black female child murderers need to be supported too, not just the white child murderers like Lindsey Clans.
- 1:01:33SPEAKER_39: And the other thing that I would just be remiss to not say is I I hope this never happens again.
- 1:01:40SPEAKER_39: We know statistically it really will.
- 1:01:43SPEAKER_30: It will.
- 1:01:44SPEAKER_39: I want us to have the same passion for people who don't look like Lindsay.
- 1:01:49SPEAKER_39: Who don't have her same access.
- 1:01:52SPEAKER_39: Yeah.
- 1:01:54SPEAKER_39: Yeah.
- 1:01:55SPEAKER_39: Why are you clapping for that?
- 1:01:56SPEAKER_39: Yeah.
- 1:01:58SPEAKER_39: Who don't have her same access and education, her melanin, her privilege.
- 1:02:05SPEAKER_39: There are women of color sitting around this country in prisons for this same thing that we've never heard of.
- 1:02:12SPEAKER_39: And I just want to remind us to have the pink shirts and the energy for them as well.
- 1:02:18SPEAKER_10: Yeah, we haven't heard of them because they're serving time and they're guilty of murdering their children.
- 1:02:25SPEAKER_10: Suddenly now this has turned into a race issue and we just need so it's it's almost an acknowledgement by this.
- 1:02:30SPEAKER_10: She's a doctor, by the way.
- 1:02:32SPEAKER_10: It's almost an acknowledgement by this doctor that Lindsay Clancy uh was getting away with something in her going and saying, Well, we should really be letting other women off the hook too when they go and murder their children, not just Lindsay Clancy.
- 1:02:48SPEAKER_10: I just, we are so going backwards, Max.
- 1:02:50SPEAKER_09: Oh, I know.
- 1:02:51SPEAKER_09: It's like I said, between the the clips and that clip and the jurors, man, this is kind of a flagship moment where you sit and go, there's a lot of things you can be positive about and be happy about and celebrate in the country still to this day, but these people walk among us.
- 1:03:10SPEAKER_09: They they are doctors, they vote.
- 1:03:13SPEAKER_09: And that is the depressing reality of where we're at in America right now.
- 1:03:18SPEAKER_10: Well, and we're looking at, and we'll continue to keep an eye on this, but I this story here, I actually found it in a European um uh in and I think it was the I think it was the Metro UK I found this.
- 1:03:29SPEAKER_10: But the story was actually uh from the New Life Christian Church in Warsaw, Indiana.
- 1:03:34SPEAKER_10: I'll just share with you the summary on this.
- 1:03:37SPEAKER_10: Indiana pastor John B.
- 1:03:39SPEAKER_10: Lau II admitted to having a sexual relationship with a 16-year-old girl during a church service.
- 1:03:47SPEAKER_10: The woman who confronted him publicly accused him of grooming and abuse while the congregation responded by rallying around the pastor rushing in to hug him in the midst of this admission.
- 1:04:05SPEAKER_10: The incident is now under investigation by the Indiana State Police.
- 1:04:09SPEAKER_10: No charges have been filed.
- 1:04:10SPEAKER_10: Listen, I understand the need to go and forgive somebody for their for their sins.
- 1:04:17SPEAKER_10: I understand that.
- 1:04:18SPEAKER_10: I get that.
- 1:04:19SPEAKER_10: I respect that.
- 1:04:20SPEAKER_10: It should happen.
- 1:04:21SPEAKER_10: But in a circumstance like this, can we show a little accountability first?
- 1:04:27SPEAKER_10: Can we get what is going on?
- 1:04:29SPEAKER_10: Can we can we can we get some acknowledgement here of this individual in a position of religious power, much like a politician?
- 1:04:38SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
- 1:04:38SPEAKER_10: Like, listen, we're all held to a certain standard, but certain positions that you hold in life carry a certain amount of weight and responsibility to it.
- 1:04:45SPEAKER_10: And a pastor of a church admitting to doing this, and suddenly the church rallies around him instead of going to the to the girl.
- 1:04:53SPEAKER_10: I just I saw the story and I was like, man, this is a systemic problem that's only getting worse.
- 1:04:57SPEAKER_09: No, it's crazy.
- 1:04:58SPEAKER_10: It's crazy.
- 1:04:59SPEAKER_09: And what's what's crazy, or there was a quote by Bukele in El Salvador about the prisons that they have for all the gang members and how it's become a much safer society.
- 1:05:10SPEAKER_09: And he said something to the effect of I understand that many of these gang members will seek repentance from the Lord, and I expect to see them in the kingdom of heaven one day.
- 1:05:19SPEAKER_09: For the time being, their entire time on earth will be spent in jail.
- 1:05:25unknown: Right.
- 1:05:26SPEAKER_09: So based.
- 1:05:27SPEAKER_09: And what's wrong with Sobase?
- 1:05:28SPEAKER_09: What is wrong with that?
- 1:05:30SPEAKER_10: There's nothing wrong with that.
- 1:05:31SPEAKER_10: All right.
- 1:05:32SPEAKER_10: One more clip here.
- 1:05:32SPEAKER_10: Uh Savannah Hernandez.
- 1:05:34SPEAKER_10: You remember Savannah Hernandez?
- 1:05:35SPEAKER_10: Uh, I don't know what what are is she with Turning Point USA or is she kind of on her own?
- 1:05:39SPEAKER_09: She was.
- 1:05:40SPEAKER_09: Was she with TP T P USA?
- 1:05:41SPEAKER_09: USA.
- 1:05:42SPEAKER_09: She got her start there.
- 1:05:42SPEAKER_09: I'm not sure what she's doing.
- 1:05:44SPEAKER_10: So she, of course, um made the headline news during Operation Metro Surge, uh, wherein she went down to film, just film some B roll footage of what was going on at the at the Whipple Federal building, and that's when she ended up getting accosted by the Astrusco uh family.
- 1:05:59SPEAKER_10: She still Waiting for justice on that.
- 1:06:02SPEAKER_10: I didn't think they were pressing charges.
- 1:06:04SPEAKER_10: I thought that there were new charges that had folded, but be that as it may, I still don't I still don't think they've been held accountable.
- 1:06:10SPEAKER_10: So on the topic that we were on, um, this was an older clip that Savannah had found, um, where she spoke to two women, and I'll just play the clip for you.
- 1:06:21SPEAKER_02: So you think Davis should be aborted 10 months after they're born?
- 1:06:25SPEAKER_46: If the mother wants to.
- 1:06:26SPEAKER_02: I think them kids.
- 1:06:28SPEAKER_05: You know, I've had an abortion too, and it's it's it was my choice, and I'm happy I had that choice.
- 1:06:33SPEAKER_05: If you're talking about like post-birth, uh, that's not considered an abortion.
- 1:06:38SPEAKER_05: Like you can look up abortion in the dictionary.
- 1:06:40SPEAKER_02: Would it be considered murder at that point?
- 1:06:42SPEAKER_05: Anything that is, you know, pre-birth, if it involves uh termination of a fetus, uh, that's considered an abortion.
- 1:06:50SPEAKER_05: I 100% support it.
- 1:06:52SPEAKER_05: I've had an abortion myself, and I'm not a bad person because uh I made the choice that was right for me, and now I have a life that I enjoy and I wouldn't take it back.
- 1:07:00SPEAKER_02: Would you guys get an abortion again?
- 1:07:02SPEAKER_02: Yes.
- 1:07:03SPEAKER_02: 100%.
- 1:07:04SPEAKER_05: I'd do it multiple times.
- 1:07:07SPEAKER_10: There's no demonic.
- 1:07:10SPEAKER_10: No thought whatsoever, no like pause.
- 1:07:13SPEAKER_10: You know, it's not like, you know, if the search, if the situation came about, I, you know, I wouldn't want that to happen.
- 1:07:18SPEAKER_10: I try to be more responsible, but yes, I would.
- 1:07:21SPEAKER_10: No, she gives an enthusiastic.
- 1:07:22SPEAKER_10: Yes, I would.
- 1:07:23SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
- 1:07:24SPEAKER_10: Like it's sport.
- 1:07:25SPEAKER_09: It's demonic.
- 1:07:26SPEAKER_09: It's I just demonic.
- 1:07:28SPEAKER_09: Because listen, at the end of the day, I I remember it was Bill Clinton who said that that abortion should be safe, legal, and rare.
- 1:07:34SPEAKER_09: Abortion was treated as almost this necessary, in some cases, thing to do, but never a thing that should be celebrated or put on public display in a positive sense.
- 1:07:45SPEAKER_09: It should be a solemn thing that you consider.
- 1:07:48SPEAKER_09: And no matter how you feel about it, that response, the the safe, legal, rare thing is is you can call it demonic either way, right?
- 1:07:58SPEAKER_09: But this, and you see it all the time now with young women, you see it all the time where they are openly celebrating and happy and joyous about the fact that they get to abort their kids.
- 1:08:11SPEAKER_09: I've seen enough clips of like protesters on the street, or not protesters, but people who are trying to elevate the conversation on abortion, they'll bring signs out that maybe show like an aborted fetus or whatever.
- 1:08:22SPEAKER_09: And you will have these young people, especially women, go up to the guy with the sign and be like, Oh, yeah, I love that picture.
- 1:08:30SPEAKER_09: I love the I love the blood and guts.
- 1:08:32SPEAKER_09: It's like just totally it's it is I just think it's demonic.
- 1:08:36SPEAKER_10: I I but I I agree with you, and I think even circumstances as it relates to what happened with Lindsay Clancy too.
- 1:08:42SPEAKER_10: I think there's a facet to that as well.
- 1:08:43SPEAKER_10: Isaac, do you want to chime in?
- 1:08:45SPEAKER_07: I saw a video the other day that just sickened me.
- 1:08:47SPEAKER_07: It was this woman who had a gender reveal party, and like whatever it was, I for can't remember the gender of the baby, but it wasn't what she wanted.
- 1:08:57SPEAKER_07: And so right away after she took the abortion bill.
- 1:09:00SPEAKER_10: I watched um, I watched the video.
- 1:09:01SPEAKER_10: I watched that same video too.
- 1:09:02SPEAKER_10: Just uh absolutely absolutely tragic.
- 1:09:05SPEAKER_10: All right.
- 1:09:06SPEAKER_10: We are gonna shift to gears a bit as everybody gets uh comfortable.
- 1:09:09SPEAKER_10: We have Representative Max Reimer in for a uh Freedom Friday.
- 1:09:12SPEAKER_10: And again, I just want to stress as as uh Grace and Catherine um get situated that you know on a day like um on a day like today, uh it is the 25th anniversary of 9-11, and we will be acknowledging that.
- 1:09:26SPEAKER_10: We'll be taking some of your uh comments um on the uh on this anniversary of 9-11, but we're also gonna try to have some fun as well.
- 1:09:34SPEAKER_10: We're gonna try to balance it, balance out um on a Freedom Friday, because I believe that's important.
- 1:09:39SPEAKER_10: I believe it's important to make sure that we continue to appreciate the freedom that we're granted here, and that's what Fridays are all about, while we acknowledge 25 years on from that uh horrible day.
- 1:09:49SPEAKER_10: Um so with that, on a Freedom Friday, remember the blaster line.
- 1:09:52SPEAKER_10: A lot of comments have rolled in.
- 1:09:53SPEAKER_10: We'll get to those.
- 1:09:53SPEAKER_10: 651-964-0294, text or voice message, and we will officially welcome in.
- 1:09:59SPEAKER_10: Grace Keating, Center of the American Experiment.
- 1:10:02SPEAKER_10: Good morning.
- 1:10:02SPEAKER_10: Good morning.
- 1:10:03SPEAKER_10: I tried to get all the other stuff out of the way before you guys arrived.
- 1:10:06SPEAKER_10: I was trying to get all of the trying to get all the Lindsay Clancy stuff off the couple.
- 1:10:09SPEAKER_10: It's been a heavy few minutes.
- 1:10:11SPEAKER_10: I know.
- 1:10:11SPEAKER_10: Thanks, John.
- 1:10:14SPEAKER_10: Oh no, I absolutely do.
- 1:10:16SPEAKER_10: I just, you know, it's heavy, and I know we like to have fun, Catherine, but feel free to chime in on the latest that we talked about the uh this morning.
- 1:10:24SPEAKER_31: Yeah, well, I think she should be hung publicly, ideally.
- 1:10:26SPEAKER_31: I mean, I think it's just awful.
- 1:10:28SPEAKER_31: I I think this is all the culmination of like this culture that tries to make excuses and take away any consequences for, in particular, female behavior.
- 1:10:39SPEAKER_31: I mean, abortion, as you guys said, is top of that list, but all kinds of other things too.
- 1:10:44SPEAKER_31: The, you know, like body positivity movement, all of these things.
- 1:10:47SPEAKER_31: And they're all female oriented, really.
- 1:10:50SPEAKER_31: Um, and they're geared towards making sure there are no consequences in life for women.
- 1:10:55SPEAKER_31: And it's it's part of an entire societal trend, and it's just very sad to see.
- 1:11:00SPEAKER_10: It is.
- 1:11:00SPEAKER_10: Uh Catherine, uh, Grace, did you want to add anything, uh, anything to this as we move through the show this morning?
- 1:11:06SPEAKER_32: The only thing I would add is I think that there's an odd element here of, and and this goes to the horror that that one juror described at seeing the other guy demonstrate with the exercise bands what had happened.
- 1:11:20SPEAKER_32: It feels like there's a very deep level of discomfort and and yeah, horror.
- 1:11:27SPEAKER_32: And people are trying to find a way to avoid the reality that there is just evil in the world.
- 1:11:33SPEAKER_32: A woman did this.
- 1:11:34SPEAKER_32: I believe she was she was conscious and she was aware of her actions.
- 1:11:38SPEAKER_32: And it is easier, it is more comfortable for people for people to go the route of she didn't know what she was doing.
- 1:11:45SPEAKER_32: She was insane.
- 1:11:46SPEAKER_32: And I think that that's a real driving element here.
- 1:11:48SPEAKER_10: Well, there's an interesting correlation, in my opinion, based off of what you were saying, to even what happened on 9-11.
- 1:11:55SPEAKER_10: I mean, there there's a lot of layers going on with what happened with the Lindsay Clancy story.
- 1:12:00SPEAKER_10: And I mentioned that earlier in the week when we finally talked about it on the show, because I had just kept it off the show for the longest time, but then it got to a place where it was just completely you couldn't avoid it anymore.
- 1:12:11SPEAKER_10: And it there is a there is definitely a cultural element even beyond the trial and the circumstances.
- 1:12:17SPEAKER_10: But Grace, to your point, this idea of facing atrocities and not being able to deal with it, not being able to face evil, you have a mentality out there of too many people that we are all inherently good and we're not.
- 1:12:31SPEAKER_10: We're not, you know, we all sin and fall short of the glory of God.
- 1:12:34SPEAKER_10: You have to work to be a good person, which is why it's important for me that the you there is something external that you are adhering to and not just going with the self.
- 1:12:43SPEAKER_10: But the same thing rings true when it comes to 9-11.
- 1:12:45SPEAKER_10: There's obviously a desire to not go and teach what happened on that day for a lot of political reasons, right, with our young people.
- 1:12:57SPEAKER_10: Uh, and we've seen the ramifications of that with all these candidates that never should have been running for office in the first place.
- 1:13:02SPEAKER_10: But I also think it's this idea for a lot of people who make the decisions to put it in curriculum, um, who aren't agenda driven, but there's something in the back of their head that goes, you know, I don't want to be reminded that there was a group of individuals that really wanted to just murder, mass murder as many Americans as humanly possible.
- 1:13:20SPEAKER_10: It's just something that gets beyond the grasp of a lot of people, especially people who have a mentality that we are all inherently good, you know, and therefore we need to shield ourselves from all of the ugliness when the reality is no, evil does exist.
- 1:13:35SPEAKER_10: We need to acknowledge that it exists and we need to push back on it and call it out when we can.
- 1:13:40SPEAKER_10: But if you have a whole generation growing up not realizing the totality of that evil, you end up where you are today, 25 years on, and too many people that just simply don't understand the gravity of uh of 9-11.
- 1:13:51SPEAKER_31: Well, yeah, do you think too that we've normalized it in the way that we have publicized stories of evil?
- 1:13:58SPEAKER_31: I think, I mean, I don't know, but I think more so than in the past with the popularity of things like true crime and um the way we get our news now on social media, we're following, I I follow, you know, you watch Crime Watch or whatever, and you can see every single crime that happens in a small area, and it makes you think that there's all of this stuff going on.
- 1:14:18SPEAKER_31: Um, and there is obviously all that is going on, but it warps your perception in a way because um statistically, maybe it's it's not that much crime.
- 1:14:27SPEAKER_31: But when we have all of this and we're seeing the videos, you know, we watched Charlie Kirk's assassination almost live, like instantaneously, watched it happen.
- 1:14:37SPEAKER_31: Does that just make us seem like think start to think it's normal?
- 1:14:40SPEAKER_31: I think that's part of it.
- 1:14:42SPEAKER_10: Well, and you have the videos now, and I knew it was going to happen.
- 1:14:44SPEAKER_10: I warned everybody of it, but you have these college students making these videos where they're doing dances now and they're mimicking Charlie Kirk being assassinated.
- 1:14:54SPEAKER_10: I mean, this this culture of this culture of death that we have and this mocking of the assassination of individuals for simply expressing their free speech, um, you know, by extension of the conversation, just you know, add that element into it.
- 1:15:08SPEAKER_10: It's it's that it's the it's the external evil that we talk about for things like 9-11.
- 1:15:13SPEAKER_10: It's the evil that that a mother would do to her children, but then you also have that evil that's being perpetuated by individuals who are out there just trying to create a popular video and to gain gain clicks and views over it.
- 1:15:25SPEAKER_10: It's disgusting.
- 1:15:26SPEAKER_09: Catherine's right.
- 1:15:27SPEAKER_09: I think there is a certain desensitization because I'll tell you, I posted some tribute to Charlie Kirk yesterday on his on the anniversary of his assassination, and it was basically like, hey, political violence, it's not justifiable no matter how you feel.
- 1:15:41SPEAKER_09: I kind of linked the conversation with my colleague Melissa Hortman, who was killed just a few months earlier than Charlie.
- 1:15:48SPEAKER_09: And the comments that I had to like hide, delete, block people.
- 1:15:52SPEAKER_09: I mean, I had a dozen comments that were like, so glad he's dead, you know, celebrate today.
- 1:15:58SPEAKER_09: This is a great holiday, blah, blah, blah.
- 1:16:00SPEAKER_09: But it shouldn't surprise us, right?
- 1:16:02SPEAKER_09: Because polling indicates that people on the left, especially, think that there is justification for murder of political opponents, and way more on the left than on the right.
- 1:16:14SPEAKER_09: And it just speaks to the symptom of a broader disease of current leftism in America.
- 1:16:20SPEAKER_09: It really is it's it's a mental illness.
- 1:16:24SPEAKER_09: And I I could not imagine if a Democrat today was killed in the horrific manner like Melissa Hortman was.
- 1:16:33SPEAKER_09: But if it listen, if it was Hassan Piker, okay, and there was a brutal on-camera murder of him, I would not be sitting here going like, thank God, you know, this guy's dead.
- 1:16:45SPEAKER_09: Like, let's all celebrate in the street.
- 1:16:47SPEAKER_09: But I think that that is actually the majority opinion of the modern left, especially the DSA faction of the left.
- 1:16:56SPEAKER_09: I think they they were happy about what happened yesterday, one year ago.
- 1:17:02SPEAKER_10: Let's get into I got a lot of uh blasts that have rolled in.
- 1:17:06SPEAKER_10: So let's run through some of these uh here on the show.
- 1:17:09SPEAKER_10: Again, 651-964-0294, and then we'll get into uh some of the uh midterm RNC.
- 1:17:15SPEAKER_10: I'm curious to get um Catherine, Grace, and Max and Isaac's take on just how you know successful uh the this is and if it was worth uh worthwhile.
- 1:17:25SPEAKER_10: But let's get to some of uh your thoughts this morning.
- 1:17:27SPEAKER_34: Good morning, John.
- 1:17:29SPEAKER_34: September 11th, 2001.
- 1:17:32SPEAKER_34: It's the day we'll just remember the most horrible, but I want to remember the one positive that came out of this.
- 1:17:39SPEAKER_34: September 12th.
- 1:17:41SPEAKER_34: We were American that day.
- 1:17:44SPEAKER_34: People around the world helped us that day, or the Canadians, or Europeans, or whatever.
- 1:17:50SPEAKER_27: That's the day I wanted September 12th, where we actually were the first that we were fine.
- 1:18:38SPEAKER_27: If you can if you can find out we meditate, if you can keep all the falls and wrong.
- 1:18:47SPEAKER_27: You are fine enough to understand.
- 1:18:58SPEAKER_10: Thank you for the uh comment.
- 1:19:00SPEAKER_10: Let's go here.
- 1:19:01SPEAKER_13: Hi, great conversation.
- 1:19:02SPEAKER_13: I'm surprised more women aren't bothered by this because what this is saying, isn't it?
- 1:19:07SPEAKER_13: Unless I'm reading this wrong, that uniquely unlike men, women can go crazy at any time and act drastically and do something that they will be forgiven for because they're women.
- 1:19:18SPEAKER_13: Wouldn't that affect women that are running for important offices and promotions or for political office?
- 1:19:25SPEAKER_10: Well, yeah, and and and to be honest, I've seen a lot of pushback from from women on this on this issue.
- 1:19:31SPEAKER_10: I've seen a lot of videos, great videos.
- 1:19:33SPEAKER_10: We shared one earlier this week of the woman that was running through all of the excuses that she would have um if you know if we were going off of what happened in the Lindsay uh Clancy story.
- 1:19:43SPEAKER_10: So um I think it really depends on what outlets you're on, but I certainly personally have seen a lot of pushback from from women.
- 1:19:49SPEAKER_10: I would be curious where the where the uh where the feminist groups are at this point in time.
- 1:19:54SPEAKER_10: But but I mean when and when it comes to our to our two you know resident females, I mean, do you think there's been enough pushback on that, enough people, enough women speaking out on what took place with that particular issue?
- 1:20:04SPEAKER_31: No, no.
- 1:20:05SPEAKER_31: No, I don't think so.
- 1:20:06SPEAKER_10: No.
- 1:20:07SPEAKER_31: I mean, that's what I said.
- 1:20:08SPEAKER_31: It's I think the whole feminist movement is uh constructed around trying to create excuses for women and remove any consequences for any decisions that women make.
- 1:20:18SPEAKER_31: So it's not that surprising when you think about it in that context.
- 1:20:21SPEAKER_10: All right, let's go here.
- 1:20:23SPEAKER_10: RNC, midterm.
- 1:20:25SPEAKER_10: First off, uh Isaac, we'll start with uh we'll start with you and we'll go around the uh around the room.
- 1:20:29SPEAKER_10: So this is the first Republican National Committee um convention for a midterm.
- 1:20:36SPEAKER_10: Trump is trying to buck the trend of the party in power losing power on a midterm election.
- 1:20:43SPEAKER_10: It's only happened twice, I believe.
- 1:20:46SPEAKER_10: One time was actually 9-11 post-9-11, where the party in power, the Republican Party, ended up maintaining power in the midterms post-9-11.
- 1:20:53SPEAKER_10: Uh, the other time was like long before that, like before any of us were born.
- 1:20:58SPEAKER_10: I think even my father uh was uh was born.
- 1:21:01SPEAKER_10: Sorry, Dad didn't mean to use you as an old gauge.
- 1:21:03SPEAKER_10: Um my bad on that.
- 1:21:06SPEAKER_10: Um, but they, you know, the commentary that I heard with both of those circumstances was it was it was extraneous reasons why the party in power was able to retain power.
- 1:21:16SPEAKER_10: I can't remember what the other one was, but obviously 9-11 had an impact.
- 1:21:20SPEAKER_10: So um, from what you've seen, uh Isaac, of the midterm RNC, do you think this was a good move by by Trump and Republicans?
- 1:21:26SPEAKER_07: Yeah, I think so.
- 1:21:27SPEAKER_07: It seemed to get some energy flowing.
- 1:21:29SPEAKER_07: Um, I guess we'll find out though in November.
- 1:21:31SPEAKER_10: Yeah, right.
- 1:21:31SPEAKER_09: Max up, what do you what do you think?
- 1:21:34SPEAKER_09: Well, if you've listened to the show long enough, you know that I I like to put on my positive hat.
- 1:21:39SPEAKER_09: I like to keep a brave face no matter what situation we're facing.
- 1:21:42SPEAKER_10: Unless we're talking about data centers.
- 1:21:45SPEAKER_09: Yeah, well, even then, even then, I think humans will win in the end.
- 1:21:51SPEAKER_09: Uh way to go.
- 1:21:52SPEAKER_09: Listen.
- 1:21:54SPEAKER_09: I think okay.
- 1:21:57SPEAKER_09: I don't I don't know if it mattered.
- 1:22:00SPEAKER_09: I I think that's where AK is at right now, right?
- 1:22:02SPEAKER_09: He's at this, he's at this convention.
- 1:22:04SPEAKER_09: That's where that's where our friend AK is at, and taking in the celebration and the excitement of that event.
- 1:22:10SPEAKER_09: I'm sure it is an exciting event.
- 1:22:13SPEAKER_09: We have like two months in order for some good news to break out of eight weeks, the federal government.
- 1:22:21SPEAKER_09: I I think the more recent developments that I'm seeing in the Middle East are going to mean like higher gas prices, they're gonna mean higher prices of everything.
- 1:22:32SPEAKER_09: I see that our interest rates are going back up, so the Fed is gonna have a difficult decision.
- 1:22:37SPEAKER_09: I thought you were gonna be positive.
- 1:22:39SPEAKER_09: I've I'm I'm trying to find I'm gonna be able to do that.
- 1:22:43SPEAKER_09: I'm thinking out loud, you got Trump on stage promising$5,000 rebate checks.
- 1:22:48SPEAKER_09: We're gonna get to that because we're gonna get to that.
- 1:22:50SPEAKER_09: Because, okay, that seems to be, we're just gonna straight up like try to buy votes at this point.
- 1:22:56SPEAKER_09: Uh uh, here is the hope that Minnesota's problems are so unique that no matter what happens at the federal level, we have we will have a wonderful outcome in November.
- 1:23:08SPEAKER_09: Yes.
- 1:23:08SPEAKER_32: All right.
- 1:23:09SPEAKER_32: Yes.
- 1:23:09SPEAKER_32: Grace agree.
- 1:23:10SPEAKER_32: I'm completely in line with that.
- 1:23:12SPEAKER_32: Um I admire that, yeah, they're giving it the old college try and trying to ramp up uh excitement out of the the midterms with this convention.
- 1:23:23SPEAKER_32: Um, I think I may be a bit of an outlier in the room, uh, in the sense that I have seen almost nothing coming out of this convention on social media in the last couple days.
- 1:23:33SPEAKER_32: Maybe my algorithm just is is really wonky right now, but I I feel like I have heard almost nothing.
- 1:23:40SPEAKER_32: I so from my perspective, I don't think it's really making the splash that they intended it to.
- 1:23:45SPEAKER_32: Um, but that might just be my experience.
- 1:23:47SPEAKER_09: Okay, before Catherine goes, because Grace mentioned social media and seeing nothing coming out come out of it.
- 1:23:51SPEAKER_09: The one thing that I did see come out of it, and I'm always like super impressed with them, is Brandon Gill from Texas, the congressman.
- 1:23:58SPEAKER_09: Yep.
- 1:23:58SPEAKER_09: He did a thing that I am going to try to incorporate in every public speech that I do, and that is a patriot acknowledgement instead of a land acknowledgement.
- 1:24:06SPEAKER_09: Oh.
- 1:24:07SPEAKER_09: Where I think it'd be sweet because I go throughout the state and do and do speaking events, and it'd be sweet to like research what happened in this city, what pioneer basically built the civilization, and we acknowledge them today.
- 1:24:22SPEAKER_09: So I just want to throw that out there because Brandon Gill did a great job and he did a patriot acknowledgement at the beginning of his speech.
- 1:24:28SPEAKER_32: Yeah, we've got our fall briefing at American Experiment uh one week from Saturday, and we are pretty close to stealing that, stealing that idea, I'd say, and opening it up with the Where is that fall briefing at the located?
- 1:24:38SPEAKER_32: It's the gorgeous winery at Sovereign Estate out in Waconia.
- 1:24:41SPEAKER_32: Yeah.
- 1:24:41SPEAKER_32: Get your tickets now.
- 1:24:42SPEAKER_10: Hang on, hang on.
- 1:24:43SPEAKER_10: I just for those that are watching.
- 1:24:46SPEAKER_32: Look at that pretty uh invitation.
- 1:24:48SPEAKER_10: Here you go.
- 1:24:50SPEAKER_10: Head on over to americanexperiment.org and you can get more information on this.
- 1:24:53SPEAKER_10: Employee of the month right there.
- 1:24:55SPEAKER_09: There it is.
- 1:24:55SPEAKER_09: But I know nothing about Waconia, right?
- 1:24:57SPEAKER_09: The the history of it.
- 1:24:59SPEAKER_09: But you know that there were people who braved weather, who had monumental successes and monumental failures and carving out this new little area of Waconia.
- 1:25:10SPEAKER_09: And how cool would it be to do an acknowledgement of like one or two people or a family of people that made that that made Waconia Waconia?
- 1:25:19SPEAKER_31: Yeah, I love that idea.
- 1:25:20SPEAKER_31: I think we have to definitely have to steal that.
- 1:25:22SPEAKER_31: Um, okay, so what was the question actually?
- 1:25:24SPEAKER_10: Midterm RNC successful.
- 1:25:26SPEAKER_31: Oh, yeah, okay.
- 1:25:28SPEAKER_31: Uh well, no, I think it's good that they're campaigning.
- 1:25:31SPEAKER_31: I mean, there's always some negativity around these kind of things because I don't think it's likely we, you know, are able to hold Congress, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't try.
- 1:25:38SPEAKER_31: Uh and and trying helps down ballot candidates in every part of the country.
- 1:25:43SPEAKER_31: And so I think it's great that they do everything they can to try and turn out the vote.
- 1:25:48SPEAKER_31: And I don't think we should ever do anything less.
- 1:25:50SPEAKER_31: I totally agree with Max.
- 1:25:51SPEAKER_31: I hope, I hope that in Minnesota we're just in a very unique situation that maybe we can get a couple um Republicans across the finish line here.
- 1:25:59SPEAKER_31: But nationally, I don't just statistically, I think it's probably not gonna look great.
- 1:26:05SPEAKER_10: Well, and uh, and Grace, uh, as uh somebody who has been online quite a bit, and I'm gonna share audio clips, uh, it probably is your algorithm because my takeaway was actually going to be that I've been really impressed with the amount of clips and audio that has come out of the event.
- 1:26:21SPEAKER_10: I actually feel like that's the more impactful aspect so far of the midterm RNC, is that it has provided the opportunity for some amazing sound bites from the guest speakers that have been there, of which I have uh several to share with you this morning.
- 1:26:36SPEAKER_31: Grace, did you not even see Beat the Beat?
- 1:26:39SPEAKER_31: No.
- 1:26:40SPEAKER_32: I don't know.
- 1:26:40SPEAKER_32: I feel like I have a very politically uh driven algorithm.
- 1:26:44SPEAKER_32: I I don't understand why I've got this blind spot.
- 1:26:47SPEAKER_32: Well, I have something great to show you later.
- 1:26:49SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
- 1:26:49SPEAKER_10: We played that yesterday on the uh on the show when it comes to James Tallerico.
- 1:26:53SPEAKER_10: So to that point, let's go ahead and play some clips here.
- 1:26:55SPEAKER_10: Uh it is a John Justice show presented by American Experiment.
- 1:26:58SPEAKER_10: Keep your comments uh rolling into 651-964-0294.
- 1:27:02SPEAKER_10: But JD Vance gave a speech uh last night, framed the upcoming midterm elections as a fight to preserve the birthright of every citizen American child, including affordable housing, clean food, safe schools, and intact families.
- 1:27:14SPEAKER_10: He criticized the political left, Wall Street, and foreign fraudsters for threatening this birthright.
- 1:27:19SPEAKER_10: Vance emphasized his desire for his son and all the children to grow up in safe, prosperous, and a fair um America.
- 1:27:33SPEAKER_06: Let's never forget.
- 1:27:39SPEAKER_10: Thank you for being that was clearly at the end of uh J.D.
- 1:27:43SPEAKER_10: Vance's speech.
- 1:27:44SPEAKER_10: Here's more of what he had to uh say last night.
- 1:27:54SPEAKER_06: We were tired of seeing our factories colonials, we were tired of our neighborhood.
- 1:28:00SPEAKER_06: Overdoses?
- 1:28:01SPEAKER_06: We are tired of not being able to afford anything.
- 1:28:04SPEAKER_06: We are tired of seeing the cartels and the criminals given free reign over our great country.
- 1:28:11SPEAKER_06: And we were tired of being called racists for noticing that our country was becoming dirtier and poorer and less safe and less prosperous.
- 1:28:27SPEAKER_06: By the end of 2024, you were tired.
- 1:28:31SPEAKER_06: We were tired as a country, but you were not defeated.
- 1:28:36SPEAKER_06: The radicals in Washington, they could take much from us, but they couldn't take our will to fight back.
- 1:28:44SPEAKER_10: Almost had a William Wallace-esque stance to that right there.
- 1:28:50SPEAKER_06: And so all of us came together on November the 5th, and we sent the toughest SOB in American politics back to the White House, and we made Donald Jake Trump the 47th president of the United States.
- 1:29:04SPEAKER_10: Listen, it's clearly a preview of what we can expect coming up in 2028.
- 1:29:07SPEAKER_10: J.D.
- 1:29:08SPEAKER_10: Vance was getting a lot of positive reviews for his speech last night.
- 1:29:11SPEAKER_10: And uh, you know, going back to what Isaac said, it's gonna we'll have to wait to see what kind of impact this has.
- 1:29:16SPEAKER_10: But clearly they're trying to highlight the candidates in the races that are important, and they're trying to put Trump on the ballot, which I think is a really interesting juxtaposition when you consider that the Democrats are running against Trump in so much of their commentary, and yet it's almost as if the RNC decided, all right, fine.
- 1:29:35SPEAKER_10: If you want to do that, then let's run headlong against that.
- 1:29:38SPEAKER_10: And we'll actually.
- 1:29:39SPEAKER_10: I mean, Trump said so much in his opening night speech of saying I'm not on the ballot, but consider that the fact consider me on the ballot.
- 1:29:45SPEAKER_10: Because I think the RNC believes that's the way that's going to bring about enough support and enthusiasm to send people out to the polls when it comes time to vote.
- 1:29:52SPEAKER_09: Yeah, it really seems that way.
- 1:29:54SPEAKER_09: And I think that is probably the only play you you have at this point in time, just because when Trump is on the ballot, turnout is much larger.
- 1:30:03SPEAKER_09: I mean, if we listen, in Minnesota, if we got everyone out who voted for Donald Trump in the presidential election for this midterm election, Republicans would have a trifecta pretty substantially because the numbers kind of bear out even between 2020 and 2022, if every Republican in that election who had voted in the presidential election would have voted in the midterm, it would have been a landslide in a state like Minnesota.
- 1:30:31SPEAKER_09: So I I think it's probably the best play to do that and just weigh base versus base.
- 1:30:38SPEAKER_09: You know, you're gonna get your base out, we're gonna get our base out.
- 1:30:41SPEAKER_09: And if that's the strategy, I think that's as good as any strategy in this in this upcoming election.
- 1:30:47SPEAKER_10: I had a uh text that rolled into the blaster line.
- 1:30:50SPEAKER_10: Uh, we're so close to flipping Minnesota red in the midterms, writes Barbara from Glenwood.
- 1:30:55SPEAKER_10: I really think one of the best things the candidates can do is to reach out to the small business owners of rural Minnesota.
- 1:31:02SPEAKER_10: The business owners need uh to encourage their employees to vote.
- 1:31:06SPEAKER_10: The Democrat pol democratic policies are ruining small businesses throughout the state.
- 1:31:11SPEAKER_10: If we uh get enough of the rural voters, especially young uh men to vote, we can flip the state.
- 1:31:17SPEAKER_10: Uh and then again, a friend of the friend of the show.
- 1:31:19SPEAKER_10: Yeah, I think there's some there's some truth uh in that.
- 1:31:22SPEAKER_10: Uh she's right.
- 1:31:23SPEAKER_10: It is all about voter, voter turnout.
- 1:31:25SPEAKER_10: Um, obviously better for Republicans in those rural areas, but you know, that could be a way in which to try to increase the voter turnout.
- 1:31:32SPEAKER_10: It always seems to be the most difficult thing for parties to do is to increase.
- 1:31:36SPEAKER_10: I mean, it's just like advertising, right?
- 1:31:37SPEAKER_10: It's just difficult that where do you advertise?
- 1:31:38SPEAKER_10: How do you reach people?
- 1:31:39SPEAKER_10: How do you encourage people to vote?
- 1:31:41SPEAKER_10: I hope that Trump as was rumored dovetailing off of this midterm RNC.
- 1:31:46SPEAKER_10: There's talk that he may hit the the uh the rally trail and may be going around the country holding rallies from now for the next eight weeks until election day.
- 1:31:53SPEAKER_10: And I think that would be a really, really smart, really, really smart move.
- 1:31:57SPEAKER_09: Yeah, well, there's no doubt, getting back to the blaster's point or the emailer's point, that Democrats are have eviscerated our small business environment here in Minnesota.
- 1:32:06SPEAKER_09: We are on the brink of basically not having a small business environment because of the taxes, because of the mandates, because of things like paid family medical leave and no carve out for small businesses.
- 1:32:19SPEAKER_09: They have taken kind of an iron hammer to the people who are trying to start businesses and support local communities.
- 1:32:26SPEAKER_09: And that's the reality of the situation.
- 1:32:28SPEAKER_09: I I sure hope that small business owners and frankly large corporations of Minnesota recognize the moment that we're in because your local candidates, your statewide candidates are going to need support financially and otherwise because you're up against a monster in in the metro area with kind of the DFL strongholds that they are going to come out to vote.
- 1:32:52SPEAKER_09: They are motivated to come out to vote.
- 1:32:54SPEAKER_09: There's no doubt about it.
- 1:32:56SPEAKER_09: And we we do need small business owners to stand up and if they're so bold, encourage their employees to vote.
- 1:33:02SPEAKER_09: Otherwise, they may not be in business next year.
- 1:33:04SPEAKER_09: I think that's a good idea.
- 1:33:05SPEAKER_31: I do think we have a slightly different environment than I've seen in uh the last few elections with um different packs and things like that participating and really having more money, having more resources, and putting things out there that I think are really putting Republicans on a more level playing field with Democrats as far as the content they're putting out there and the amount of people it they reach, it seems to me.
- 1:33:29SPEAKER_31: I mean, obviously I'm in their algorithm, but um, it's it does seem to me like maybe there's been some improvement in the infrastructure we have here in Minnesota to get that turnout from our side.
- 1:33:41SPEAKER_10: Well, and speaking of uh small businesses, I want to take a moment that and uh mention that you can taste happy at minileaf.com.
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- 1:34:13SPEAKER_10: Um and there's personal testimonials, five-star reviews available up at the website.
- 1:34:18SPEAKER_10: I encourage everybody to go and uh check it out.
- 1:34:20SPEAKER_10: And there's different brands and different types of the mini leaf night gummies, so make sure you take a look at them and decide which one is uh best for you uh at M-I-N-N-E-L-E-A-F.com.
- 1:34:30SPEAKER_10: So let's do this.
- 1:34:30SPEAKER_10: Um, I have a slightly longer clip from JD Vance.
- 1:34:34SPEAKER_10: So we'll take a quick break, but we'll you know share with you some more content from last night.
- 1:34:38SPEAKER_10: Uh, this was a moment during JD Vance's uh rousing speech where he was dropping a message to Americans and young men who were pessimistic about the direction of the United States.
- 1:34:50SPEAKER_06: The things he wanted are the things that I want, and I think the things that every American patriot wants for our country.
- 1:34:57SPEAKER_06: We want it for ourselves, we want it for our families, we want it for our children, we want it for our fellow Americans.
- 1:35:05SPEAKER_06: But right after that visit, something interesting happened.
- 1:35:08SPEAKER_06: The man the Democrats are running for Senate in the great state of Michigan, his name is Abdul El Sayed.
- 1:35:21SPEAKER_06: He saw me describing what a decent man, and my papa was genuinely a decent and good man.
- 1:35:28SPEAKER_06: He saw me talking about my papa and his work and his history and what he loved and what he cared about.
- 1:35:33SPEAKER_06: And you know what old Abdul did?
- 1:35:36SPEAKER_06: He asked mockingly whether I'd be willing to bring Usha back in time to meet Papa.
- 1:35:45SPEAKER_06: This is what he thinks of my grandfather, a man I loved and who loved his family unconditionally.
- 1:35:51SPEAKER_06: Abdul looks at him, sees the color of his skin, sees his background, and decides that he could never have loved my wife.
- 1:36:00SPEAKER_06: Now, the shocking thing, the shocking thing is that Abdul himself was raised by his own white step-grandparents.
- 1:36:07SPEAKER_06: He knows exactly that kind of bond and what it looks like in a family.
- 1:36:12SPEAKER_06: And he chose anyway to say that a man like my grandfather couldn't have loved from the bottom of his heart someone who looks like Usha.
- 1:36:20SPEAKER_06: Well, thanks be to God that my Pat Ball was a better man than Abdul El-Syed, because I guarantee you he loved my family every bit as much.
- 1:36:38SPEAKER_06: I'm not just here to defend the honor of my Patball.
- 1:36:41SPEAKER_06: I'm here to tell you this is who the Democrats are now, my friends.
- 1:36:45SPEAKER_06: They're not just the party of little higher taxes, maybe some dumb regulations.
- 1:36:50SPEAKER_06: They're not the party of FDR or JFK.
- 1:36:53SPEAKER_06: Hell, they're not even the party of Bill Clinton anymore.
- 1:36:57SPEAKER_06: The Democrats are the party of hatred.
- 1:37:01SPEAKER_06: They're the party that despises America and the people who built it.
- 1:37:06SPEAKER_06: They're the party that can find sympathy for the terrorists who perpetrated 9-11, but they say that people with names like James Vance are incapable of loving people with names like Usha, and they couldn't be more wrong.
- 1:37:20SPEAKER_10: And that was the that was not the clip that I wanted to play, but it was a clip that I wanted to play, just not in that moment.
- 1:37:27SPEAKER_10: This was the clip that I was referencing a moment ago here on the show.
- 1:37:37SPEAKER_06: The people on the margins, the people who are still a little unsure who they're going to vote for.
- 1:37:43SPEAKER_06: The people who love some of our policies, but maybe don't agree with others.
- 1:37:48SPEAKER_06: Young men, many of whom felt inspired by Charlie Kirk, but are unhappy with some of what has happened in the wake of his death.
- 1:37:57SPEAKER_06: And I want to speak directly to that group because I think Charlie is a great example of how to disagree but still participate in the work of saving this country.
- 1:38:09SPEAKER_06: Charlie.
- 1:38:15SPEAKER_06: Charlie, ladies and gentlemen, was dedicated to this movement and this country.
- 1:38:19SPEAKER_06: He loved, and I do mean loved, the President of the United States.
- 1:38:24SPEAKER_06: But in the eight months or so that we were in office before Charlie died, I talked to him a lot, almost every day.
- 1:38:31SPEAKER_06: And Charlie was still a free thinker with his own principles and views.
- 1:38:35SPEAKER_06: He did not always agree with us.
- 1:38:38SPEAKER_06: Let me just give you one example.
- 1:38:40SPEAKER_06: Charlie hated war.
- 1:38:42SPEAKER_06: Whether it was Europe or Africa, the Middle East, he didn't care.
- 1:38:45SPEAKER_06: He just hated war.
- 1:38:47SPEAKER_06: That was his view.
- 1:38:49SPEAKER_06: Now, of course, there are people who love what we've done and people who don't.
- 1:38:53SPEAKER_06: I'm not here to litigate the disagreements between Charlie and some of the people that he disagreed with.
- 1:38:58SPEAKER_06: But what I'm asking you to do is do what Charlie did.
- 1:39:01SPEAKER_06: Do not throw the baby out with the bathwater.
- 1:39:05SPEAKER_06: Don't give the country over to a bunch of crazy people because you happen to disagree with us on a policy issue here or there.
- 1:39:19SPEAKER_06: Look, I'm not asking anybody to agree with me on every single issue.
- 1:39:25SPEAKER_06: I'm not asking anybody to agree on every single policy of the administration.
- 1:39:30SPEAKER_06: What I am asking you to do is to recognize the contrast with the radicals and recognize the achievements of the last 18 months.
- 1:39:38SPEAKER_06: We have done a lot, my friends, and we can do a lot more if we fight together.
- 1:40:06SPEAKER_06: Well, my friend, if you love Mexico so much, get your ass over there.
- 1:40:09SPEAKER_06: I'll buy you the play ticket.
- 1:40:14SPEAKER_10: JD Vance from his speech last night at the uh midterm uh RNC, and uh that was a viral moment that was making the rounds uh overnight where he had a uh heckler in the uh audience that was waving around a Mexican flag and had some nice pointed words to uh to share with him.
- 1:40:30SPEAKER_10: So it's a John Justice show in studio with us on a Freedom Friday.
- 1:40:33SPEAKER_10: We have uh Catherine Johnson, Grace Keating, Representative uh Max Reimer, as we uh continued to talk a bit about the midterm uh RNC.
- 1:40:41SPEAKER_10: I have a few more clips I want to play because one thing that people were frustrated by over the course of the past few days was the lack of any uh discussion regarding Minnesota politics.
- 1:40:51SPEAKER_10: And I didn't have any big expectations uh of that for the most part.
- 1:40:56SPEAKER_10: If there was going to be any commentary, because people were saying they're not, they weren't talking about the governor's race on night one.
- 1:41:02SPEAKER_10: And I said, that doesn't surprise me.
- 1:41:04SPEAKER_10: If they were going to be talking about any of our races, it would probably be the Michelle Tefoya Peggy Flanagan race, because it relates to the, you know, to to Congress.
- 1:41:13SPEAKER_10: Uh and sure enough, that's the case.
- 1:41:14SPEAKER_10: So there's a couple of clips here.
- 1:41:16SPEAKER_10: Uh the first one, both from uh Fox News, uh, this is Tim Scott talking with uh Brett Bear about that particular race.
- 1:41:23SPEAKER_44: Now, listen, we have to be honest.
- 1:41:25SPEAKER_44: A lot of these states, at least the polls right now, Senator, have some of these candidates underwater.
- 1:41:29SPEAKER_44: Do you still share that optimism that you had back in March?
- 1:41:33SPEAKER_00: I'm even more optimistic to be honest with you.
- 1:41:35SPEAKER_00: I think the truth of the matter is that we're on the right side of Labor Day.
- 1:41:38SPEAKER_00: The momentum is starting to shift in our direction.
- 1:41:40SPEAKER_00: We got a poll today that showed that in Minnesota, Michelle Tefoya is tied with Flanagan within the margin of error.
- 1:41:47SPEAKER_00: So this is good news.
- 1:41:49SPEAKER_10: And then this here is uh Brett Baer continuing the conversation with Fox News' uh Martha McAllen.
- 1:41:55SPEAKER_04: But then also keep an eye on many on Minnesota, which is obviously a strongly blue state, but uh that's looking like a tight race.
- 1:42:02SPEAKER_44: Yeah, Michelle Tefoya is running a really good race early.
- 1:42:05SPEAKER_44: Uh is getting a lot of money, a lot of attention.
- 1:42:08SPEAKER_44: Obviously, she speaks well about the issues that she thinks really play in Minnesota, and Minnesota has been purplish at times in the past.
- 1:42:18SPEAKER_44: It's trended blue, but it's been purplish.
- 1:42:20SPEAKER_04: She may be benefiting from very sharp contrast against Peggy Flanagan, who is uh very much closer to the DSA uh label.
- 1:42:28SPEAKER_04: Um, whether she wears it outwardly or not, she has a lot of uh policies that are very close to that world, and that might be sharpening the contrast for for uh Michelle Tefoya.
- 1:42:38SPEAKER_10: So am I the only one that believes that it won't even be close relating to Ken Paxton and James Tallerico?
- 1:42:48SPEAKER_10: That whole thing just seems completely manipulated to me.
- 1:42:52SPEAKER_10: That guy is a is the is a creepy freakazoid, and it just seems like it seems a lot like the governor's race and that lunatic that was running in the primary uh that ended up losing, that they had propped up and talked about for weeks on end.
- 1:43:07SPEAKER_10: That woman I was in Wisconsin?
- 1:43:09SPEAKER_10: Yeah, in Wisconsin.
- 1:43:10SPEAKER_10: Francesca.
- 1:43:11SPEAKER_10: Yeah, I feel that's it, yeah.
- 1:43:12SPEAKER_10: Francesca Hong.
- 1:43:13SPEAKER_10: I feel that's what this I could be wrong on that.
- 1:43:15SPEAKER_10: Am I the only am I the only one that feels like I don't know?
- 1:43:17SPEAKER_31: People are always like Texas is gonna go blue, and it never does.
- 1:43:20SPEAKER_31: So I don't know.
- 1:43:21SPEAKER_31: I mean, they've done their best on the left, right?
- 1:43:23SPEAKER_31: They imported a ton of people over there to vote for Democrats, but I don't know.
- 1:43:27SPEAKER_31: I think that it's every single I'm sorry, it's true.
- 1:43:31SPEAKER_31: I think every single election we hear the same narrative and they have these horrible betto candidates uh that don't do nearly as well as people think they would.
- 1:43:39SPEAKER_10: It was betto, it was betto candidates, right?
- 1:43:41SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
- 1:43:42SPEAKER_10: Okay.
- 1:43:42SPEAKER_10: What did it sound like I said?
- 1:43:43SPEAKER_31: Beto, betto, beeto.
- 1:43:45SPEAKER_10: I heard ghetto.
- 1:43:47SPEAKER_31: No, opposite side of the spectrum, actually.
- 1:43:50SPEAKER_31: Weenie men, not ghetto.
- 1:43:52SPEAKER_10: I thought you said pedo.
- 1:43:54SPEAKER_10: Well, we are talking Talarico, and I think I think I think that joke was made on the stage, wasn't it?
- 1:44:02SPEAKER_06: And in Texas, you have Democrats, grown men, who seem to be pretty obsessed with trans children.
- 1:44:12SPEAKER_06: I gotta say the president's very good at nicknames, but Talofrico maybe.
- 1:44:17SPEAKER_06: Top of the list.
- 1:44:22SPEAKER_06: This talerico guy, he will not shut up about how there are six genders.
- 1:44:27SPEAKER_06: He will not shut up about how, quote, God is non-binary.
- 1:44:30SPEAKER_06: I don't know what the hell that even means, my friend.
- 1:44:34SPEAKER_06: He won't shut up about how having traditional Christian values makes you a bigot.
- 1:44:39SPEAKER_06: And I gotta say, a guy that age who is so obsessed and focused on transgender children, I don't know about you, but I never want to see that guy's web browser history.
- 1:44:52SPEAKER_10: It's a good one.
- 1:44:54SPEAKER_10: Or maybe authority please.
- 1:44:55SPEAKER_10: Nate here.
- 1:44:57SPEAKER_10: Web browser uh history.
- 1:45:00unknown: Yeah.
- 1:45:00SPEAKER_06: What do you uh Colorado?
- 1:45:02SPEAKER_06: You have Democrats who say that 9-11 was inevitable.
- 1:45:05SPEAKER_10: Yeah, I got cut off there, so I should have stopped it when I did.
- 1:45:08SPEAKER_10: Um I'm curious, uh Max, do you think that's a close race or do you think it's being inflated?
- 1:45:12SPEAKER_10: I think it'll be I think it'll be close.
- 1:45:13SPEAKER_09: I think I think Ken Paxton will pull it off.
- 1:45:15SPEAKER_09: And you know, I I it's because Ken Paxton's got some unique negatives about him.
- 1:45:22SPEAKER_09: It sounds like there's a lot of controversy surrounding him.
- 1:45:25SPEAKER_09: I haven't paid super close attention to the race, but uh it's Texas.
- 1:45:29SPEAKER_09: It's still Texas, and this seems to be the great Mirage for them, as for Republicans, sometimes Minnesota can be the great mirage, you know.
- 1:45:37SPEAKER_09: And I think that at the end of the day, he'll pull it off.
- 1:45:41SPEAKER_09: He'll pull it off by five.
- 1:45:45SPEAKER_09: Five points.
- 1:45:46SPEAKER_10: Oh, uh the great mirage.
- 1:45:48SPEAKER_10: Better rock band or race horse.
- 1:45:49SPEAKER_32: Oh, race horse.
- 1:45:50SPEAKER_32: Yeah.
- 1:45:51SPEAKER_32: Yeah, rock.
- 1:45:52SPEAKER_32: I would I would cheer for that horse.
- 1:45:53SPEAKER_10: The Great Mirage, that's an easy race horse.
- 1:45:55SPEAKER_10: That's pretty cool.
- 1:45:56SPEAKER_10: That'd be a good spaceship name.
- 1:45:57SPEAKER_10: I should write that down and put it in one of my next books.
- 1:46:00SPEAKER_10: The Great Mirage.
- 1:46:01SPEAKER_09: You have to have a character resembling me that man's the that spaceship.
- 1:46:04SPEAKER_09: Does he have to be wearing the same size shorts, or can I put him in long?
- 1:46:07SPEAKER_09: Oh, short shorts.
- 1:46:09SPEAKER_09: Short shorts.
- 1:46:11SPEAKER_10: That was so short shorts riding a scooter.
- 1:46:13SPEAKER_32: The shorts are carefully out of the camera shot today.
- 1:46:16SPEAKER_09: That was a little bit too fast.
- 1:46:17SPEAKER_09: I was a little too quick on the draw, and that one wasn't.
- 1:46:20SPEAKER_09: Short shorts riding a scooter.
- 1:46:22SPEAKER_09: It can be a space scooter.
- 1:46:24SPEAKER_09: There you go.
- 1:46:25SPEAKER_09: A hoverboard.
- 1:46:26SPEAKER_26: Hey John, this is Eric, an expatriate Minnesota, now living in Texas.
- 1:46:31SPEAKER_26: I'm going to tell you, Kim Paxton is in real trouble.
- 1:46:35SPEAKER_26: He had an extramarital affair.
- 1:46:38SPEAKER_26: Conservative Texans are offended by that.
- 1:46:40SPEAKER_26: Texans are offended by the way Abbott handled the COVID crisis.
- 1:46:45SPEAKER_26: And I know you think Texas can't go blue.
- 1:46:48SPEAKER_26: I'm going to tell you it's going to go at least one of those two, this election, and we are purple and sliding in the blue.
- 1:46:57SPEAKER_26: And if we lose Texas, the Republic is lost.
- 1:47:00SPEAKER_26: Thanks.
- 1:47:01SPEAKER_31: I get the point.
- 1:47:02SPEAKER_31: And this was a big scandal.
- 1:47:03SPEAKER_31: But like if you are looking for politicians that haven't had extramarital affairs, good luck.
- 1:47:10SPEAKER_33: Yeah.
- 1:47:10SPEAKER_31: Uh just saying I think we gotta really, really keep making that point on the right.
- 1:47:15SPEAKER_31: We are looking at the policies, not the people, because often the people that rise to the top in the world of politics are not our best, most highest moral character people.
- 1:47:24SPEAKER_31: It's just the nature of the game.
- 1:47:26SPEAKER_31: Uh, so I hope, I hope Texans can keep that in mind.
- 1:47:29SPEAKER_10: I uh I was about to say the same thing.
- 1:47:31SPEAKER_10: I, you know, going off of his points there, I'm like, yeah, first off, um, unfortunately, when it comes to the, for lack of a better way to describe it, I'm just gonna say it, when it comes to the moral depravity, there is no party exclusivity across the country right now.
- 1:47:44SPEAKER_10: It is one of the unintended byproducts of the anal, the analyzing of James Tallerico that I really appreciate because the counter to the ridiculous nonsense of what he's espousing about his own interpretation of the Bible, there's a lot of pushback and a lot of truth that's coming out of that.
- 1:48:02SPEAKER_10: So I wish we didn't have a candidate like him this close to winning an election.
- 1:48:06SPEAKER_10: That being said, the fact that we're talking about biblical principles from a biblical factual perspective to counter him, I believe is a positive thing.
- 1:48:14SPEAKER_10: But unfortunately, no, you're absolutely right.
- 1:48:16SPEAKER_10: If you're thinking you're going to find the perfect candidate, or more importantly, that people actually care.
- 1:48:21SPEAKER_10: You know, and Abbott's handling the COVID crisis, I don't see no offense to Eric.
- 1:48:25SPEAKER_10: I appreciate the expatriate in Minnesota.
- 1:48:26SPEAKER_10: I appreciate your comments.
- 1:48:27SPEAKER_10: I don't mean to to pick on you, unfortunately, except for the fact that I disagree with your comments.
- 1:48:32SPEAKER_31: Well, and he's probably right that that is making an impact.
- 1:48:35SPEAKER_31: I I don't necessarily disagree with him.
- 1:48:36SPEAKER_31: I'm just saying I always hate that.
- 1:48:38SPEAKER_31: I always hate that argument.
- 1:48:39SPEAKER_31: And you can want your candidates to be moral and upstanding, and you should participate in the primary process and put those candidates forward.
- 1:48:46SPEAKER_31: But then when it comes to the general, and it's, you know, okay, he's had an affair, but we'll s take pro-life, save millions of babies potentially, versus kill millions of babies.
- 1:48:57SPEAKER_31: Like, there's no moral comparative, yeah, right, when it comes to policy.
- 1:49:01SPEAKER_09: The COVID crisis?
- 1:49:02SPEAKER_09: What I guess I'm misunderstanding why that's still what is we've had like three elections now to litigate Texans are are offended by the way that Abbott handled the COVID crisis.
- 1:49:13SPEAKER_10: I don't see anybody.
- 1:49:14SPEAKER_10: I don't know what that means.
- 1:49:15SPEAKER_31: I think that's partially why he he got the boot.
- 1:49:17SPEAKER_31: I mean, he's not the nominee, so I don't know how much that's taxing.
- 1:49:20SPEAKER_31: Okay, yeah, maybe.
- 1:49:20SPEAKER_09: Well, Greg Abbott's the governor.
- 1:49:22SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
- 1:49:22SPEAKER_31: Wasn't he running?
- 1:49:24SPEAKER_31: Wasn't he running against no?
- 1:49:25SPEAKER_09: There was another guy that got the boot.
- 1:49:26SPEAKER_09: That was Corny.
- 1:49:27SPEAKER_31: Oh, sorry, sorry, sorry.
- 1:49:29SPEAKER_31: You're right.
- 1:49:29SPEAKER_31: Both a little weenie-y.
- 1:49:32SPEAKER_31: Oh, it's okay.
- 1:49:32SPEAKER_09: Yeah, well, you're pretty much.
- 1:49:35SPEAKER_09: It's all good.
- 1:49:35SPEAKER_09: I'm just confused about what's.
- 1:49:37SPEAKER_31: As I complain about women having excuses for everything, trying to avoid consequences.
- 1:49:41SPEAKER_31: I got the fan turned on me in the studio.
- 1:49:44SPEAKER_31: I'm forgetting questions.
- 1:49:46SPEAKER_31: And you know what?
- 1:49:47SPEAKER_31: Thankfully, I have the perfect excuse.
- 1:49:48SPEAKER_10: I don't think we've brought it up on the show yet.
- 1:49:50SPEAKER_10: And I didn't ask you if I could.
- 1:49:52SPEAKER_10: So my apologies up front for divulging that information, but I figured it was public knowledge now.
- 1:49:56SPEAKER_31: So it it is public for anyone who follows me on Instagram anyway.
- 1:49:59SPEAKER_31: So Yes, it is public.
- 1:50:00SPEAKER_10: I had a faux pas a moment ago because during the uh we were playing one of the JD Vance clips and and Catherine was expressing how hot she was, and I have a fan over here because the studio gets hot because you haven't fixed the AC.
- 1:50:10SPEAKER_10: So I was like, if you want to turn it to yourself, go, you know, go ahead.
- 1:50:13SPEAKER_10: I can, you know.
- 1:50:13SPEAKER_10: I said, you know, you're pregnant.
- 1:50:14SPEAKER_10: And I said, by the way, that dress is nice.
- 1:50:16SPEAKER_10: And I was like, it just it sounded like a slight, and I didn't mean for it to fall that way.
- 1:50:20SPEAKER_10: It's like, yeah, okay.
- 1:50:21SPEAKER_10: No, it wasn't.
- 1:50:22SPEAKER_31: It was not a faux pas.
- 1:50:23SPEAKER_31: Don't worry.
- 1:50:23SPEAKER_10: All right, good.
- 1:50:24SPEAKER_10: Let's go here.
- 1:50:24SPEAKER_10: Get myself out of this.
- 1:50:33SPEAKER_24: Just silly.
- 1:50:34SPEAKER_24: I I personally think that the Democrats spend so much time and energy trying to, you know, make Texas blue or convince people of that.
- 1:50:46SPEAKER_24: So that the Republican Party wastes money running, you know, running campaigns for these candidates in Texas.
- 1:50:56SPEAKER_24: Who are gonna win anyway.
- 1:50:59SPEAKER_09: That's interest interesting.
- 1:51:00SPEAKER_10: Well, a lot of people seem to have that uh have that particular view on pushing back on the on the previous uh blast.
- 1:51:08SPEAKER_22: Look guys, I understand everybody's worried about Texas, but the truth is it is not going blue.
- 1:51:15SPEAKER_22: Okay, there are uh it you know, it might come within a point or two.
- 1:51:20SPEAKER_22: Um and and that's just because we have Austin, Dallas, and Houston, which are liberal baskets.
- 1:51:27SPEAKER_22: But the rest of Texas, while maybe not as greatly populated, uh still has enough of a population of true blue, uh red-busted Americans that care about this country.
- 1:51:40SPEAKER_10: Wait, it really this I never expected that this was gonna touch a strike a strike a nerve.
- 1:51:45SPEAKER_19: Hey guys, uh happy Friday.
- 1:51:47SPEAKER_19: Uh Eric is wrong.
- 1:51:49SPEAKER_19: Um of course we need to be very diligent, but Texas is not going blue.
- 1:51:54SPEAKER_19: Um he'll win by uh he'll win by 10.
- 1:51:59SPEAKER_19: Mark my words.
- 1:52:00SPEAKER_19: That's not even gonna be close.
- 1:52:01SPEAKER_10: So nobody seems to know the we seem to be all over the map in terms of the margin of victory, but there seems to be a general consensus.
- 1:52:07SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
- 1:52:08SPEAKER_09: Yeah, we got the range now.
- 1:52:09SPEAKER_09: I said five.
- 1:52:10SPEAKER_09: Uh one of the one of the blasters said one.
- 1:52:13SPEAKER_09: Yeah, and now we just got our first 10.
- 1:52:15SPEAKER_09: So we're all experts, apparently.
- 1:52:18SPEAKER_10: Uh somebody had said these are the same people who also um were were saying that Beto was going to win.
- 1:52:24SPEAKER_10: Where did he go, by the way?
- 1:52:25SPEAKER_10: Him and his skateboard.
- 1:52:26SPEAKER_10: He was a boy, he was another weird one.
- 1:52:28SPEAKER_10: He's a weirdo.
- 1:52:29SPEAKER_10: Listen, Texas might go blue if they if they would just go and nominate on the left some somebody who was somewhat middle of the road.
- 1:52:37SPEAKER_09: Talerico has said things publicly that would damage him in Minnesota.
- 1:52:41SPEAKER_10: It should be crazy.
- 1:52:42SPEAKER_10: It should damage him legally.
- 1:52:44SPEAKER_09: Yeah, well, maybe it will.
- 1:52:47SPEAKER_09: Speaking of browser history, yes, browser.
- 1:52:49SPEAKER_07: Just a quick point.
- 1:52:49SPEAKER_07: Ted Cruz only won that race by about two and a half points.
- 1:52:52SPEAKER_07: Yep.
- 1:52:53SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
- 1:52:53SPEAKER_07: And I think Ken Paxson has a lot more baggage than Ted Cruz.
- 1:52:56SPEAKER_31: Yeah, but Ted Cruz is not our most likable guy.
- 1:53:00SPEAKER_31: People don't get this.
- 1:53:01SPEAKER_07: This was Pete Ted Cruz era.
- 1:53:03SPEAKER_31: Women and Ted Cruz.
- 1:53:05SPEAKER_31: Not big fans.
- 1:53:06SPEAKER_31: Okay.
- 1:53:06SPEAKER_07: I also think Talarico is a better candidate than Beto.
- 1:53:10SPEAKER_07: Ooh.
- 1:53:12SPEAKER_09: I do.
- 1:53:13SPEAKER_09: So what's your prediction, Isaac?
- 1:53:14SPEAKER_07: I don't know.
- 1:53:15SPEAKER_07: It's gonna be really tight.
- 1:53:16SPEAKER_07: I'm I tend to lean more towards Eric's side.
- 1:53:18SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
- 1:53:18SPEAKER_07: That this is this is not something to mess around with and be like, oh, whatever, shrug it off.
- 1:53:23SPEAKER_07: I'm gonna this is a less than a point type race.
- 1:53:26SPEAKER_10: I'm gonna be the contrarian and say that this is all media manipulated and there's not nearly as much support behind Talerico as everybody is is saying.
- 1:53:33SPEAKER_10: That's just me personally.
- 1:53:34SPEAKER_09: The one thing is you can make the case that Texas has actually gone more red since 2018.
- 1:53:39SPEAKER_09: It's gotten more Republican, even with the influx of, you know, immigrants or expats from California or whatever.
- 1:53:47SPEAKER_09: It's actually it's actually gotten more red since the baseline has gotten more red since 2018.
- 1:53:52SPEAKER_09: The biggest thing is what does that Hispanic vote do in Texas?
- 1:53:57SPEAKER_09: Because that Hispanic vote, Trump was winning places this last election that a Republican had never won before.
- 1:54:04SPEAKER_09: And do they have they stuck with Republicans or have they stuck with the president?
- 1:54:09SPEAKER_09: That's a that's a big question.
- 1:54:11SPEAKER_09: Yeah, that's the question.
- 1:54:11SPEAKER_10: Well, you know what?
- 1:54:12SPEAKER_10: And we haven't even factored in Trump and his$5,000 dividend checks.
- 1:54:17SPEAKER_10: That's gonna change all of this.
- 1:54:19SPEAKER_10: Just want to say, everybody got mad at me yesterday because I wasn't taking a firm stance one way or the other.
- 1:54:24SPEAKER_10: I'm still I'm still waiting for details.
- 1:54:26SPEAKER_10: I don't want to take a firm stance on that.
- 1:54:27SPEAKER_10: For those who missed it, Trump had offered up a$5,000 dividend check, promising that if Republicans maintain control of the House, that he would give these up.
- 1:54:35SPEAKER_10: And all that I said yesterday was that I'm just waiting to find out where that money is coming from before I come to a firm conclusion on whether it is or it isn't a bad idea, because I do believe that one, we're not going to be dealing with the deficit.
- 1:54:49SPEAKER_10: We're not gonna be dealing with the debt.
- 1:54:51SPEAKER_10: We're not, we're just not gonna be making any inroads there.
- 1:54:53SPEAKER_10: If the money is coming from a new funding source, depending on what the stipulations are, like potentially the tariffs, which have brought in, I was doing some research yesterday, some 32, some odd billion dollars.
- 1:55:04SPEAKER_10: It's not enough to cover that back of the you know napkin math that people are doing of 1.5 trillion.
- 1:55:10SPEAKER_10: But we know from previous statements that JD Vance has said that there would be stipulations if Trump did this.
- 1:55:15SPEAKER_10: Um, I'm just waiting to find out how he's gonna pay for it before I go and render judgment, but that was enough to get everybody mad at me yesterday.
- 1:55:21SPEAKER_09: Well, listen, if you wanna if you want to gas the economy, if you made some kind of dent in the national debt or the national deficit and you want you want prosperity to occur in the country, you can take my dividend check and take that and pay down, pay down some bills, as far as I'm concerned, because I think the long-term benefit of actually getting our debt under control, and maybe I'm naive, maybe we can't ever do anything about it.
- 1:55:48SPEAKER_09: But if you want to juice the economy, if you want to give people confidence, if you want some semblance of normal where things cost a little bit less, paying down the national deficit and the national debt, I I still think that's important.
- 1:56:00SPEAKER_09: I still maintain that that's important.
- 1:56:02SPEAKER_09: Well, I agree.
- 1:56:02SPEAKER_09: I just don't think it's I just don't think it's near future.
- 1:56:06SPEAKER_09: We're not no no one is serious about it anymore, apparently.
- 1:56:09SPEAKER_31: So yeah, but I also think like if you can't beat them join them, you know, Democrats have been doing this for years and they've been promising mine.
- 1:56:15SPEAKER_31: Tim Walls promised checks that never came during his election cycle.
- 1:56:20SPEAKER_31: So, all right.
- 1:56:21SPEAKER_31: Can't beat him join them.
- 1:56:23SPEAKER_09: We have uh we have some let's just start cutting everybody checks, baby.
- 1:56:27SPEAKER_09: Well, is it$5,000?
- 1:56:29SPEAKER_09: Maybe you get a$10,000 check if you maybe I'll do that as a campaign tactic.
- 1:56:33SPEAKER_09: Maybe in Chicago County, you vote for me and uh I'll I'll do the math, but you'll get a$25 check.
- 1:56:40SPEAKER_31: I mean, think about student debt relief.
- 1:56:41SPEAKER_31: That was a huge part of what Biden ran on and basically knew that was never going to happen.
- 1:56:47SPEAKER_31: So I mean, things like that would.
- 1:56:49SPEAKER_09: So let's just lie.
- 1:56:50SPEAKER_31: Yeah, yes.
- 1:56:51SPEAKER_31: They do that anyway.
- 1:56:52SPEAKER_31: Again with the politicians.
- 1:56:53SPEAKER_31: They're lying anyway.
- 1:56:55SPEAKER_31: Lying about something that helps us in the election, maybe.
- 1:56:57SPEAKER_31: I don't know, just a take, just an idea.
- 1:57:01SPEAKER_32: I'm not touching any of that.
- 1:57:03SPEAKER_32: Yeah, I disagree.
- 1:57:06SPEAKER_10: Trump made a new announcement uh yesterday saying that the ex he's saying that he would be getting that a m that one million Americans, let me back up.
- 1:57:14SPEAKER_10: President Donald Trump said Thursday that almost one million Americans would be getting five hundred dollar checks after being overcharged through fees under Obamacare.
- 1:57:25SPEAKER_10: Uh saying the extra fees were collected during the Biden administration.
- 1:57:29SPEAKER_10: The overcharges occurred through the Obamacare Exchange user fees that were added to insurance premiums.
- 1:57:36SPEAKER_10: And so the checks are projected to be mailed out in October, and the refund will be sent to people in 30 states who did not receive premium assistance under Obamacare, according to the White House.
- 1:57:47SPEAKER_10: So, I mean, listen, if anything, it's an example of you can actually give a surplus back to people.
- 1:57:52SPEAKER_32: Isn't that nice to see and prove that it can be done?
- 1:57:56SPEAKER_32: Yeah.
- 1:57:56SPEAKER_32: Well done.
- 1:57:57SPEAKER_10: I feel like he should have led with that first and then did the 5,000 dividend check.
- 1:58:03SPEAKER_10: I feel like there was a didn't he?
- 1:58:05SPEAKER_10: Didn't that come out first?
- 1:58:06SPEAKER_10: No, he didn't.
- 1:58:07SPEAKER_10: That I didn't hear about the$500 check until after he did the speech on Wednesday night.
- 1:58:12SPEAKER_10: Oh so that was all that was all that was all brand new.
- 1:58:15SPEAKER_10: Because when I saw the story yesterday, I was confused.
- 1:58:17SPEAKER_10: I go, wait a second, it's$500.
- 1:58:18SPEAKER_10: I'll go, oh, this is something completely, completely different.
- 1:58:21SPEAKER_10: Max is just over there grinning.
- 1:58:22SPEAKER_10: He's just giving out all kinds of money, Max.
- 1:58:24SPEAKER_10: What are you worried about?
- 1:58:24SPEAKER_09: No, I we don't have a surplus.
- 1:58:27SPEAKER_09: The federal government doesn't have a surplus anywhere, just to be clear.
- 1:58:30SPEAKER_09: We have a negative$40 trillion surplus that we're working with.
- 1:58:36SPEAKER_09: In Minnesota, and in many, I think in all states, like you do have to have a balanced budget, which is why we have surpluses, right?
- 1:58:43SPEAKER_09: And the federal government doesn't need to do that because we're printing money and rates are going up and that kind of thing.
- 1:58:48SPEAKER_09: So again, if this is the tactic, if you want to promise people$5,000 checks, and the funniest part was he said, you'll only get this if Republicans are in the majority again.
- 1:59:01SPEAKER_09: Well, yeah, because we'll be able to get it past Congress.
- 1:59:04SPEAKER_09: It's just he's not gonna get it past Congress anyway.
- 1:59:07SPEAKER_09: If this is an idea, Trump is just gonna have to do it and wait for courts to tell him to stop doing it.
- 1:59:12SPEAKER_10: Uh, we had uh we have more Texas blasts that have uh rolled in, offering some a lot of continuity directors out there for the friend from the friends of the show.
- 1:59:20SPEAKER_10: Let's go.
- 1:59:20SPEAKER_10: Let's talk Texas.
- 1:59:22SPEAKER_18: Yeah, hey, uh great show, guys and gals.
- 1:59:26SPEAKER_18: Uh but uh in 2024, Ted Cruz won by 9.53 percent to about 44 percent.
- 1:59:36SPEAKER_18: So uh I would expect the same thing to happen this year.
- 1:59:41SPEAKER_32: Yeah, Isaac.
- 1:59:43SPEAKER_07: It's a different environment.
- 1:59:45SPEAKER_07: 2022 is the middle of Biden right after COVID, people were upset.
- 1:59:49SPEAKER_10: Somebody thinks I'm lying.
- 1:59:50SPEAKER_10: I don't know what about though.
- 1:59:52SPEAKER_43: Sorry, John, but you're lying.
- 1:59:54SPEAKER_43: We have all the excuse me, we have all the details on Trump's$5,000 commie bribe, and we got them all yesterday.
- 2:00:02SPEAKER_10: Sorry, my apologies.
- 2:00:02SPEAKER_10: That's that's Mildred's Mildred.
- 2:00:04SPEAKER_10: Yeah, that's Mildred.
- 2:00:05SPEAKER_10: Oh my gosh, Millie, get out of here.
- 2:00:07SPEAKER_10: Bad voice cover.
- 2:00:08SPEAKER_10: Yeah, Mildred, we don't have the information.
- 2:00:10SPEAKER_10: I looked again this morning.
- 2:00:12SPEAKER_10: It's actually a bit of a criticism because I figured that Trump would have released it by now, and all of the current stories still do not have clarification on where the money is coming from.
- 2:00:22SPEAKER_10: So not lying, I'm going off of what's in front of me, you moron.
- 2:00:25SPEAKER_10: All right, let's go here.
- 2:00:52SPEAKER_25: Uh when it comes to being in the undecided care uh category uh regarding the Trump checks.
- 2:00:58SPEAKER_25: Um I need to see more details because uh, you know, we've we've seen uh you know cashback uh from the government multiple times.
- 2:01:06SPEAKER_25: We saw it under Bush, we saw it under Obama.
- 2:01:09SPEAKER_25: Um, you know, it it's never turned out well.
- 2:01:13SPEAKER_25: Um it's always increased inflation.
- 2:01:15SPEAKER_25: Uh so my question, you know, to the Trump administration is where is this money gonna come from?
- 2:01:21SPEAKER_25: And are we gonna be borrowing it from China uh, you know, to buy boats?
- 2:01:25SPEAKER_10: I guess I should probably add, I'm more than likely gonna end up being against this.
- 2:01:28SPEAKER_10: I just want to wait to see what the details are.
- 2:01:31SPEAKER_10: That's all that it is.
- 2:01:32SPEAKER_10: It's uh I just but it's everybody we live in this world now where you must immediately have an react, an opinion.
- 2:01:39SPEAKER_31: Or you're a commie, apparently.
- 2:01:40SPEAKER_10: Yeah, you're a time.
- 2:01:41SPEAKER_10: Or you're a liar.
- 2:01:42SPEAKER_10: There's that too.
- 2:01:43SPEAKER_10: All right.
- 2:01:43SPEAKER_10: Uh there's an interesting moment that's not getting a lot of attention from the uh midterm RNC.
- 2:01:49SPEAKER_10: Uh so Benny Johnson, you guys familiar with the conservative commentator, Benny Johnson?
- 2:01:53SPEAKER_10: No?
- 2:01:53SPEAKER_10: You know, so yeah, a little bit?
- 2:01:54SPEAKER_10: Okay.
- 2:01:55SPEAKER_10: Uh so he uh had a chance to uh interview DHS Secretary Mark Wayne Mullen.
- 2:02:01SPEAKER_10: And uh they they got on the topic of Ilhan Omar.
- 2:02:05SPEAKER_10: Uh it's a really interesting admission that Mullen makes in this clip.
- 2:02:09SPEAKER_10: Okay.
- 2:02:10SPEAKER_10: Well, what's going to happen, Mr.
- 2:02:11SPEAKER_10: Secretary?
- 2:02:14SPEAKER_08: Something's gonna happen.
- 2:02:18SPEAKER_10: So so it the setup is they're talking about Ilhan Omar.
- 2:02:21SPEAKER_10: And I know that there was uh recently the results into her financial records ended up clearing her of any sort of wrongdoing, at least one of the investigations that was making the rounds earlier earlier this week.
- 2:02:33SPEAKER_10: So he asks, you know, him, you know, what what's happening with Ilhan Omar, and Mulan is saying, well, something is going to happen.
- 2:02:40SPEAKER_08: But let's this is an ongoing investigation.
- 2:02:43SPEAKER_08: Um we we know that she married her her brother to try to bring him into the United States.
- 2:02:49SPEAKER_08: We know he lives now in London.
- 2:02:51SPEAKER_10: Um so if you didn't catch that, that was the DHS Secretary Markaway Mullen straight up saying, We know.
- 2:02:57SPEAKER_10: We know that she married her brother to get immigration status, and we know that he is currently living in London right now.
- 2:03:05SPEAKER_10: Okay.
- 2:03:06SPEAKER_08: We feel that this may, you know, there there's even may more be there may be more to this to the whole family migration uh and possibly some illegal activity for them to come to the United States to begin with, but all of us we're investigating.
- 2:03:21SPEAKER_08: Here's what I want to make sure we do.
- 2:03:23SPEAKER_08: If we actually move the case forward, it's not a political case, it's actual case because they did things wrong.
- 2:03:30SPEAKER_08: If you decided to break the law and rely on your on the information you get in the United States, to be able to come into the United States through either assignment or because you were just wanting to see it better life, but you didn't tell us who you actually were.
- 2:03:43SPEAKER_08: You lied about certain things about your application, those things, there's no explanation to be.
- 2:03:49SPEAKER_08: If we can prove it that you shouldn't have been here in the first place, we'll defeat you.
- 2:03:54SPEAKER_08: And so we're it's more than just we're looking at a lot of cases that are very similar to this that we feel like they're maybe from the get in.
- 2:04:04SPEAKER_08: But when we move forward, it's not political, it's because you chose to break the nation's laws.
- 2:04:10SPEAKER_08: And I've I've said this multiple times and I continue to say it.
- 2:04:13SPEAKER_08: I don't make the laws anymore.
- 2:04:16SPEAKER_08: I'm in charge of enforcing the laws, and I will not pick and choose which laws I'm going to enforce and which laws I'm not.
- 2:04:22SPEAKER_08: I'm gonna enforce all of it.
- 2:04:23SPEAKER_08: Regardless of who you are, regardless if you're Omar or you're some other individual in that community.
- 2:04:30SPEAKER_08: We're going to enforce it equally.
- 2:04:33SPEAKER_10: So just to recap briefly, so he said he straight up said that they know that she married her brother, right?
- 2:04:39SPEAKER_10: Knows where he is, says something is gonna happen.
- 2:04:41SPEAKER_10: That's an ongoing investigation.
- 2:04:43SPEAKER_10: And then the other crucial part was when we move forward, it's not political, it's because you chose to break the nation's laws.
- 2:04:49SPEAKER_10: I don't make the law as uh as anyone, uh I don't make the law anymore.
- 2:04:55SPEAKER_10: I'm in charge of enforcing the laws.
- 2:04:57SPEAKER_10: I will not pick and choose which laws to enforce and which I'm not.
- 2:05:00SPEAKER_10: We're going to enforce all of them, regardless of who you are.
- 2:05:03SPEAKER_10: So we've heard this for a long time regarding Ilhan Omar.
- 2:05:08SPEAKER_10: It's like the worst kept secret ever.
- 2:05:10SPEAKER_10: Um, I guess a couple like the two quick questions that I have is one, and they're kind of coupled together.
- 2:05:16SPEAKER_10: Do you think that if they actually have evidence that they would move forward and hold her accountable?
- 2:05:22SPEAKER_10: But the other aspect of that is what kind of in my opinion, that would have that would be a seismic event to take place in politics, like the ramifications of which I don't think most people realize the way that the left would treat that situation if it were to happen, regardless of how much evidence that they have, which also has me wondering and asking the first question is if they do have evidence, do you think because of the second part that they would actually move forward and do something about it?
- 2:05:52SPEAKER_09: Well, I was really excited at the beginning of when Mark Wayne Mullen was talking because it sounded like it was cut and dry.
- 2:05:59SPEAKER_09: They they have he knows, he knows something.
- 2:06:03SPEAKER_09: And then he kind of couched it in.
- 2:06:04SPEAKER_09: There's all also other cases we're looking at, and then it's kind of like, okay, well, what are you actually getting at here?
- 2:06:10SPEAKER_09: So, what I appreciate though is when he says that it can't be a political target, you have to have all of the facts, you have to have all of your information correct.
- 2:06:18SPEAKER_09: I think they would pursue it if they did have all of that, and maybe they're still gathering that.
- 2:06:22SPEAKER_09: But we see what happens when you do have a weaponized justice system and how that can backfire politically, right?
- 2:06:29SPEAKER_09: So we we saw that with Trump on a number of different occasions, and it backfired on Democrats because it was it became apparent that they did not have all the facts and that they were engaging in a perceived political witch hunt.
- 2:06:42SPEAKER_09: If you pursue something like this with Ilhan Omar because of the seismic nature of what you're talking about, you better have it better be smoking gun type stuff, which is more than what I've seen so far.
- 2:06:54SPEAKER_09: Like, I I generally don't know whether it's true or not.
- 2:06:59SPEAKER_31: Oh, I can show you.
- 2:07:00SPEAKER_31: Do you want more information?
- 2:07:02SPEAKER_09: You got all the you got all the info?
- 2:07:04SPEAKER_31: You got we'll talk to Bill Glon right after this.
- 2:07:06SPEAKER_31: Yeah, no, I mean I think it's pretty much, it's pretty much for sure true.
- 2:07:10SPEAKER_31: I think the question is, is it worth it?
- 2:07:12SPEAKER_31: Because getting a mugshot of Ilhan Omar could do the same thing that getting a mugshot of Donald Trump, yeah.
- 2:07:18SPEAKER_31: Did to the right, you know.
- 2:07:19SPEAKER_31: So I think that's the question is even if she did, because she did marry her brother, even though she did, would it be worth it sounds like he's kind of threatening deporting her?
- 2:07:28SPEAKER_31: Would it be worth deporting her for immigration fraud because of how it would galvanize the other side?
- 2:07:32SPEAKER_31: I honestly don't know.
- 2:07:33SPEAKER_32: I think that there, and uh, I'm I might be getting my facts wrong here, but uh, I think there's also a question of whether she did marry her brother, but what was the reason?
- 2:07:42SPEAKER_32: Was it for immigration fraud?
- 2:07:43SPEAKER_32: Was it to get him into the United States?
- 2:07:45SPEAKER_32: Or I think there was a question that it might have been for financial aid at the at the university that they were at.
- 2:07:51SPEAKER_32: Um, so there's also a question of it like, yes, I think that she did it.
- 2:07:54SPEAKER_32: I think that's pretty much set in stone, pretty much.
- 2:07:56SPEAKER_32: But why?
- 2:07:57SPEAKER_32: And and then yes, of course, what is the follow-through?
- 2:08:00SPEAKER_32: Uh, I think that you raise a really interesting question though, John, is what would the consequences, what would the ramifications of that look like in Minnesota?
- 2:08:07SPEAKER_32: The state has that that has become so well known for protesting and taking to the streets and rioting and and and and going after government officials.
- 2:08:17SPEAKER_32: What would the fallout look like here?
- 2:08:19SPEAKER_10: I don't want like on the on the one hand, I go if somebody has broken the law, they need to be held accountable, right?
- 2:08:26SPEAKER_10: Absolutely.
- 2:08:27SPEAKER_10: And it doesn't matter who you are.
- 2:08:29SPEAKER_10: Uh also again, I can't help but shake that holy cow, the fallout from from this would be massive.
- 2:08:36SPEAKER_10: Because you and as I stressed before, not that that should be the deciding factor to hold her accountable, just again, acknowledging, like let me put it this way if they could arrest her right now and deport her, and they can't, and let's just say, you know, Pete Hexeth was like, John, should we do this?
- 2:08:55SPEAKER_10: It would never happen in a million years.
- 2:08:57SPEAKER_10: Let's just say you did.
- 2:08:58SPEAKER_10: I I would be hesitant to say do it now ahead of the midterms.
- 2:09:03SPEAKER_10: Because I because that could be galvanizing for for Democrats to be like, oh my gosh, look at because they would run with it and go, This is the totalitarian dictator that we were talking about.
- 2:09:15SPEAKER_10: This sitting senator has been serving for so long has now been deported under this administration.
- 2:09:20SPEAKER_10: It's the first time it's ever happened.
- 2:09:21SPEAKER_32: You can just And this is racism and this is Islamophobia and it's everything.
- 2:09:25SPEAKER_32: Xenophobia.
- 2:09:26SPEAKER_10: But at the same time, I've got a but at the same time, people need to be held accountable.
- 2:09:30SPEAKER_10: So it's a it's it's that it's that if we get past the midterms and they and they do this, okay.
- 2:09:34SPEAKER_10: Just for the and again, just sort of playing the the speculation game.
- 2:09:38SPEAKER_10: It's a tough one though.
- 2:09:39SPEAKER_10: It is an absolute tough one because this would be a seismic, I think a lot bigger than most people have thought about.
- 2:09:46SPEAKER_10: And again, not that that should keep people from being held accountable, it's just something that you have to factor in, and that's the politics of it.
- 2:09:54SPEAKER_09: Right.
- 2:09:54SPEAKER_09: Politics always has to be a factor.
- 2:09:56SPEAKER_09: What I think, honestly, what I think they're considering is do they have do they have all the facts?
- 2:10:02SPEAKER_09: And I understand that I I yeah, I have seen stuff from Bill Glon, and I I know his research is airtight.
- 2:10:09SPEAKER_09: I don't think the federal government maybe they do right now, but I don't think the federal government has had a bulletproof case up to this point.
- 2:10:17SPEAKER_09: And maybe they do now.
- 2:10:18SPEAKER_09: And I think you have to act on that.
- 2:10:20SPEAKER_09: If somebody committed immigration fraud and then rose to the highest ranks of our government, that actually should be immensely concerning from a national security perspective, too.
- 2:10:30SPEAKER_09: The fact that if this did happen, if this is what Ilhan Omar did in order to gain entry to the country, and then rose our ranks in government, that that is something you probably have to send a hard and fast message on that you can't you can't get away with that.
- 2:10:46SPEAKER_09: And I know there are political implications to all of it.
- 2:10:49SPEAKER_09: I think there were the protests in the street would be like Metro surge on steroids, probably, and there would be fallout from it.
- 2:10:57SPEAKER_09: But if they have the if they have the facts of the case, if the facts support that she did commit immigration fraud, I just don't think they have had the facts yet.
- 2:11:06SPEAKER_09: And I guess we'll just see how this plays out.
- 2:11:08SPEAKER_09: He said we were gonna do something, but I've heard that I've heard that a number of times.
- 2:11:12SPEAKER_10: Yeah, yeah, right.
- 2:11:13SPEAKER_10: Well, you know what, we're gonna get those$5,000 checks, and that's gonna change everything.
- 2:11:17SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
- 2:11:17SPEAKER_10: Keep hammering that.
- 2:11:18SPEAKER_10: Let's go back to the uh blaster line.
- 2:11:20SPEAKER_10: 651-964-0294 on a Freedom Friday.
- 2:11:23SPEAKER_15: Okay, take this to its conclusion.
- 2:11:26SPEAKER_15: Ilhan Omar is arrested, deported, whatever.
- 2:11:31SPEAKER_15: That seat needs to be filled.
- 2:11:33SPEAKER_15: There's a very good possibility you're gonna have somebody bad, crazy, worse.
- 2:11:37SPEAKER_10: Of course, of course.
- 2:11:38SPEAKER_15: Than Ilhan Omar.
- 2:11:41SPEAKER_09: I don't think it can get worse.
- 2:11:44SPEAKER_09: Let me ask you.
- 2:11:45SPEAKER_09: I I truly think we are we are talking about rock bottom.
- 2:11:48SPEAKER_09: You might get somebody else who is also rock bottom, but I you would be hard pressed to find somebody worse than her politically.
- 2:11:56SPEAKER_10: I'm with you, but I want to offer up also the I want to offer.
- 2:12:00SPEAKER_10: I want to argue with myself for a moment, right?
- 2:12:02SPEAKER_10: Because I I do think that more than likely the outrage is what we mentioned.
- 2:12:06SPEAKER_10: But at the same time, too, are we sure?
- 2:12:09SPEAKER_10: She's kind of like the other version of Amy Klobuchar, a senator of small things.
- 2:12:13SPEAKER_10: Like I don't know how she's viewed in DC.
- 2:12:16SPEAKER_10: She certainly is absent from her district here in Minnesota.
- 2:12:19SPEAKER_10: She's a darling of the left, but it's not like she's accomplished a ton.
- 2:12:23SPEAKER_09: She's not AOC.
- 2:12:24SPEAKER_09: She doesn't have this rising star right now.
- 2:12:27SPEAKER_09: She's just part of the squad.
- 2:12:29SPEAKER_09: She's just a far leftist, and I don't think her colleagues probably take her seriously.
- 2:12:35SPEAKER_10: You know, I mean, I know I'm coming at this from a conservative, but you know, and this is not an individual that I'm going to gravitate towards, but just, you know, watching like an AOC.
- 2:12:43SPEAKER_10: You know, there's a level of entertainment value and in and interest that AOC has that Ilhan Omar just doesn't.
- 2:12:50SPEAKER_10: She's kind of been propped up as this mythical figure, but really for no good reason, apart from the fact that it has become the a thing of mythology that she married her brother.
- 2:13:02SPEAKER_10: I think that's a big factor as to why she gets so much attention, because it is kind of the worst kept secret.
- 2:13:07SPEAKER_10: But in terms of her effectiveness, you know, as a as a member of Congress, uh, you know, I don't know.
- 2:13:14SPEAKER_10: I don't know how people in DC view her or how even on people on the left view her, apart from just being a prop for their for their diversity and inclusion efforts.
- 2:13:23SPEAKER_09: Yeah, I'm not sure either.
- 2:13:24SPEAKER_09: And I I did the AOC comparison.
- 2:13:27SPEAKER_09: AOC right now is on a meteoric rise.
- 2:13:29SPEAKER_09: There's an upward curve to the brand of AOC right now, where we're seriously talking about her running for president in 2028 and that being a real possibility.
- 2:13:41SPEAKER_09: I I don't see the same level of enthusiasm on a national level for Ilhan Omar.
- 2:13:46SPEAKER_09: In fact, I think they try to bury her uh and not get her to talk on TV programs and stuff like that.
- 2:13:52SPEAKER_31: But uh I was just gonna say at the end of the day, our Congress people are yes and no votes.
- 2:13:56SPEAKER_31: I think she is always voting in line with uh the Democrats and whoever replaces her will do the exact same thing.
- 2:14:03SPEAKER_31: Um, she certainly pushes things that are radical and insane, and that's not good for our country.
- 2:14:07SPEAKER_31: But at the end of the day, that role is yes and no votes, and we would get probably the same votes no matter what.
- 2:14:12SPEAKER_10: No doubt.
- 2:14:13SPEAKER_10: There's an art there's an argument, there's an argument out there where if we did not give her as much um attention, if we did not give her as much attention, that she probably could get ousted from office.
- 2:14:26SPEAKER_10: And I'm not saying that we shouldn't, but I just again I think there's so much controversy swirls around here that has artificially raised her profile and popularity.
- 2:14:34SPEAKER_31: Well, the other I think Donald Trump's best fundraiser is kind of the saying is Ilhan Omar.
- 2:14:39SPEAKER_31: Yeah.
- 2:14:39SPEAKER_31: So I mean, I think it helps on the right, too, to have these kind of foils for Donald Trump, to have people on the other side, AOC, whoever it might be.
- 2:14:47SPEAKER_09: Yeah, it's not just Donald Trump, it's every congressional Republican.
- 2:14:50SPEAKER_09: It's like you're trying to tie, you're trying to tie every competitive race in the country to so-and-so stood with Ilhan Omar, who said 9-11 wasn't a big deal.
- 2:15:00SPEAKER_09: You know, like that she is a gift that keeps on giving.
- 2:15:03SPEAKER_09: In fact, you know, it wasn't more than a decade ago that there were Republicans that got very rich off of running against Ilhan Omar.
- 2:15:11SPEAKER_31: So yeah, let's go down that road.
- 2:15:13SPEAKER_31: I'll get real heated.
- 2:15:14SPEAKER_10: Let's go uh let's go here instead to the uh to the blaster line at 651-964-0294.
- 2:15:19SPEAKER_16: Poor John Brian Northridge.
- 2:15:21SPEAKER_16: I've lived in the 5th district for the majority of my life if one group up north.
- 2:15:27SPEAKER_16: And I can tell you with certainty that that Benji is deep with limited.
- 2:15:33unknown: Yes.
- 2:15:34SPEAKER_16: There are people that should not be in public office that are in public office now from that district.
- 2:15:41SPEAKER_09: Can't confirm.
- 2:15:42SPEAKER_09: So uh can't confirm, Brian from North Branch.
- 2:15:45SPEAKER_09: I agree.
- 2:15:46SPEAKER_09: I have seen them.
- 2:15:47SPEAKER_09: I've interacted with them.
- 2:15:49SPEAKER_09: That deep bench.
- 2:15:50SPEAKER_10: So we have breaking news.
- 2:15:52SPEAKER_10: Oh no.
- 2:15:53SPEAKER_10: I'm gonna hold it for just a second.
- 2:15:55SPEAKER_10: Okay, so I want to do I want to do a couple things here.
- 2:15:57SPEAKER_10: Tell me this, it's good news, right?
- 2:15:59SPEAKER_32: Oh, dude.
- 2:16:00SPEAKER_32: Come on.
- 2:16:01SPEAKER_31: It's new.
- 2:16:01SPEAKER_31: I can't take I can't take more bad news.
- 2:16:03SPEAKER_31: It's not bad news.
- 2:16:04SPEAKER_31: It's not bad news.
- 2:16:05SPEAKER_31: It's not bad.
- 2:16:05SPEAKER_31: Is it what I just opened my phone too?
- 2:16:06SPEAKER_31: I hope we see that saw the same breaking news.
- 2:16:08SPEAKER_10: Okay.
- 2:16:09SPEAKER_10: We probably did.
- 2:16:09SPEAKER_10: I'm not gonna look.
- 2:16:10SPEAKER_10: I need to spend, I need to spend just a moment.
- 2:16:13SPEAKER_10: I need to spend just a moment to clarify it.
- 2:16:16SPEAKER_10: Okay.
- 2:16:16SPEAKER_10: So you can do that, uh, Catherine.
- 2:16:18SPEAKER_10: I'm gonna do that.
- 2:16:20SPEAKER_10: Everyone, everyone's alive still, right?
- 2:16:21SPEAKER_10: Everyone's still alive for now.
- 2:16:24SPEAKER_10: Although this would work.
- 2:16:25SPEAKER_32: Oh my gosh.
- 2:16:27SPEAKER_10: This might change things.
- 2:16:28SPEAKER_10: I don't know.
- 2:16:28SPEAKER_32: I just okay.
- 2:16:29SPEAKER_10: So we'll give you the breaking news in a moment, because again, I need to take just I need to make sure that this is actually accurate.
- 2:16:36SPEAKER_10: So, with that, let's transition over here just briefly.
- 2:16:38SPEAKER_10: And I have uh just two more clips from the RNC last night to share.
- 2:16:42SPEAKER_10: And this I kind of wanted to transition here, anyways, with the 25-year anniversary of 9-11.
- 2:16:47SPEAKER_10: I want to share this with you before I do.
- 2:16:48SPEAKER_10: These two clips are um from uh Ted Cruz uh at the uh the midterm RNC last night that we'll get into.
- 2:16:55SPEAKER_10: But this here, a new Ipsys poll reveals that 9-11 remains the most significant historical event for many Americans, overshadowing even COVID-19.
- 2:17:06SPEAKER_10: Um I hate to say that's good news, but it makes sense to me.
- 2:17:11SPEAKER_10: And I'm I if I were if I were going to be uh ranking things of a level of importance.
- 2:17:16SPEAKER_10: 100%.
- 2:17:19SPEAKER_10: While the attacks continue to impact the nation, with most Americans remembering uh where they were on that day, a small percentage plan to commemorate the 25th anniversary.
- 2:17:30SPEAKER_10: The poll also highlights the generational differences in the perception of 9-11's uh impact and the country's uh safety from future attacks.
- 2:17:37SPEAKER_10: And as we highlighted yesterday, only two districts in the country mandate curriculum relating to 9-11.
- 2:17:45SPEAKER_10: It's really states can individually decide what they want to do, but there's only two states that actually mandated across the board in those states that kids learn what happened on uh on 9-11.
- 2:17:57SPEAKER_10: So uh with that, let me play you these two uh two clips from Ted Cruz.
- 2:18:01SPEAKER_10: First, uh we have um Cruz issuing a stark warning at the midterm convention in Dallas, uh talking about the new green-red alliance of the communists and Islamists.
- 2:18:12SPEAKER_10: And then he also gets into his concerns over Sharia law and those running for office.
- 2:18:18SPEAKER_10: And uh, as we play these, we'll uh do some digging and make sure we confirm this uh this breaking news, and then we'll share it with you coming up in just a few minutes uh here on the John Justice show presented by American Experiments.
- 2:18:30SPEAKER_11: That killed Charlie Kirk, that knocked down the Twin Towers, that led to two assassination attempts on President Trump.
- 2:18:39SPEAKER_11: It just keeps getting worse and worse.
- 2:18:42SPEAKER_11: And we are witnessing a new and dangerous red-green alliance.
- 2:18:47SPEAKER_11: Communists and Islamists coming together and sweeping over the Democrat Party.
- 2:19:00SPEAKER_11: Hear me now.
- 2:19:03SPEAKER_11: Sharia law has no place in America.
- 2:19:11SPEAKER_11: Sharia law.
- 2:19:15SPEAKER_11: Sharia law is fundamentally inconsistent with the Constitution, and we need to stand together and stop it now.
- 2:19:30SPEAKER_11: A simple truth.
- 2:19:32SPEAKER_11: When people tell you who they are, believe them.
- 2:19:37SPEAKER_11: When Hassan Piker says America deserved 9-11, believe him.
- 2:19:45SPEAKER_11: When Mandami says he wants to seize the means of production, he means it.
- 2:19:52SPEAKER_11: When Abdul Al-Sayed says he has a quote, obligation to comply with Sharia law, he means it.
- 2:20:02SPEAKER_11: And when James Tallerico says he wants to dismantle capitalism, he means it.
- 2:20:12SPEAKER_11: Now understand, not every Democrat in the House and Senate believes this, but they are all afraid of these radicals, because that's where the money and the energy and the young people are in the Democrat Party.
- 2:20:29SPEAKER_11: Why do you think that only one Democrat senator was willing to call out an avowed communist with a Nazi tattoo, who was their nominee for Senate in Maine?
- 2:20:42SPEAKER_11: It was only when they realized that Plattner was going to lose that they dumped it.
- 2:20:48SPEAKER_11: Why does Al Saeed refuse to disavow Hassan Piker?
- 2:20:55SPEAKER_11: Why does Chuck Schumer stand alongside Al Saeed?
- 2:21:01SPEAKER_11: Their threats are not simply empty words.
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- 2:23:11SPEAKER_10: Breaking news, and I'll play for you.
- 2:23:14SPEAKER_10: Hopefully this works.
- 2:23:15SPEAKER_10: Um, Lindsay Clancy juror Paula Devlin reveals on CBS mornings that the lone male holdout juror who voted to find Clancy guilty of murdering her children was the only person of color, a black man, on the jury.
- 2:23:33SPEAKER_10: Here's the audio from uh CBS.
- 2:23:35SPEAKER_29: I'm curious about the jurors themselves because we know it was nine women, three men.
- 2:23:39SPEAKER_29: What was the age range?
- 2:23:41SPEAKER_29: What was the racial makeup?
- 2:23:42SPEAKER_29: I haven't heard any of that.
- 2:23:43SPEAKER_29: What was it?
- 2:23:44SPEAKER_12: Um 70 in 70-ish to 22.
- 2:23:49SPEAKER_12: And um one person of color, and then everybody else was white.
- 2:23:56SPEAKER_12: Um a lot of the jurors had children.
- 2:24:00SPEAKER_29: Uh-huh.
- 2:24:01SPEAKER_29: One person of color was a person of color, a woman or a man?
- 2:24:04SPEAKER_29: A man.
- 2:24:05SPEAKER_29: A man.
- 2:24:06SPEAKER_29: Is a holdout juror a person of uh a black man?
- 2:24:10SPEAKER_29: Yes.
- 2:24:11SPEAKER_29: A black man is a holdout juror?
- 2:24:13SPEAKER_29: Yes.
- 2:24:14SPEAKER_29: Her world is crumbling.
- 2:24:16SPEAKER_29: I have to sit with that for just a second.
- 2:24:19SPEAKER_31: Wow!
- 2:24:20SPEAKER_10: Yes.
- 2:24:21SPEAKER_31: Wow.
- 2:24:22SPEAKER_31: I have to sit with that for a second.
- 2:24:24SPEAKER_10: Okay, so let me Patriot right there, man.
- 2:24:28SPEAKER_10: Let me let me afford me the opportunity to offer up the opening comment here.
- 2:24:32SPEAKER_10: Okay.
- 2:24:33SPEAKER_10: We were talking earlier and I and I agreed that this individual needed to stay silent.
- 2:24:39SPEAKER_10: My good friend James T.
- 2:24:40SPEAKER_10: Harris, for those that aren't aware, okay, he is a black conservative talk show host.
- 2:24:45SPEAKER_10: He uh hosts mornings at iHeart uh KFYI in Phoenix.
- 2:24:50SPEAKER_10: We actually were just texting earlier, uh, earlier this week.
- 2:24:53SPEAKER_10: We used to um do back-to-back shows on the station that worked out in Tucson, his show followed mine, uh, and we would have a crosstalk always.
- 2:25:00SPEAKER_10: And we used to have a running joke where we would put a spin on the white privilege and we would talk about James T.
- 2:25:06SPEAKER_10: Harris and his black privilege.
- 2:25:07SPEAKER_10: Because he did, and he would admit he would talk about all the black privilege that he gets.
- 2:25:12SPEAKER_10: I think, considering that this lone holdout juror was black, I actually believe that he could come forward now and not face the same repercussions that a white juror could have.
- 2:25:21SPEAKER_10: He this could really completely upend all of this because of the way that we view, you know.
- 2:25:28SPEAKER_10: Unfortunately, I wish it wasn't the case, but this is the reality that we live in.
- 2:25:31SPEAKER_09: Yeah, it's like the oppression hierarchy now that comes into play.
- 2:25:35SPEAKER_10: Right, right now, you I mean, you have to imagine that the that a lot of heads are absolutely spinning over this particular uh revelation that was made.
- 2:25:44SPEAKER_10: And oh my gosh, that host on CBS response to that is just Gail King.
- 2:25:48SPEAKER_10: Yeah, yeah.
- 2:25:49SPEAKER_10: That was just incredible.
- 2:25:50SPEAKER_10: So uh with that, uh the the breaking news that the lone holdout was um apparently, according to that juror, a black man.
- 2:25:55SPEAKER_09: Well, that doctor on the Oprah show that aged like milk.
- 2:25:59SPEAKER_09: That no kidding.
- 2:26:00SPEAKER_09: That quote that she had saying we don't treat black women this way, and then the one black.
- 2:26:04SPEAKER_10: Oh my gosh, yeah, great point.
- 2:26:07SPEAKER_10: I had already gone and cleared out uh cleared out that that clip.
- 2:26:11SPEAKER_09: Well, I love that guy, and it didn't matter to me what color he was, but for the sake of the leftist oppression Olympics, you know, this is gonna be a fun thing to watch play out over the next day here.
- 2:26:23SPEAKER_09: But uh that guy's a patriot, the guy made the right decision and was not influenced by what was obviously a rigged jury to begin with.
- 2:26:32SPEAKER_32: Yeah, this the aftermath of this entire trial, I I really just question how wise it is to let these jurors go out and do these interviews and releasing their identities, I think, relatively quickly.
- 2:26:47SPEAKER_32: Especially, I don't know, it really this this entire story has me questioning how we choose juries, how we choose whether or not to sequester them.
- 2:26:55SPEAKER_32: I think that this has been very eye-opening in terms of how our justice system operates with cases like these.
- 2:27:03SPEAKER_32: I mean, obviously, major kudos to this guy for holding out, I think being apparently the lone voice of sanity on this entire jury.
- 2:27:11SPEAKER_32: But I hope that this serves as a wake-up call that we need to re-evaluate how these cases are handled from the jury's perspective.
- 2:27:20SPEAKER_32: Yeah.
- 2:27:20SPEAKER_09: It's gonna it's gonna rock so hard when this guy goes out and does an interview and we find out that he's a gay black man.
- 2:27:28SPEAKER_31: You can just see like her whole worldview kind of melt.
- 2:27:32SPEAKER_31: And it gives away the fact that they hate when people who they see as being in their oppression hierarchy don't fall in line and don't have their exact same views.
- 2:27:43SPEAKER_31: Then they're like, oh, I have to sit with that for a second.
- 2:27:47SPEAKER_31: I mean, oh my gosh, you can't even imagine a person of color thinking correctly on something on this issue.
- 2:27:54SPEAKER_31: I mean, man, I would love to see this guy in person.
- 2:27:57SPEAKER_31: Now I want him to come out.
- 2:27:59SPEAKER_31: Let us know more about you, man.
- 2:28:01SPEAKER_31: This is so interesting.
- 2:28:02SPEAKER_10: And there's a blast that just came in that makes an another really interesting point that we haven't made yet.
- 2:28:08SPEAKER_20: Wow, that's some breaking news about the 12th year being all being a black male.
- 2:28:15SPEAKER_20: So you got a room full of white women who tell him that black man is not smart enough to understand the facts.
- 2:28:21SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 2:28:22SPEAKER_20: Yep.
- 2:28:22SPEAKER_20: There's like, don't you can't value babies for a black man.
- 2:28:28SPEAKER_20: This is just rich.
- 2:28:29SPEAKER_20: Bunch of white female nurses.
- 2:28:32SPEAKER_10: Well, and and again, I I I I want to make sure that this is framed in the appropriate manner.
- 2:28:37SPEAKER_10: It shouldn't matter.
- 2:28:38SPEAKER_10: Okay, it should it shouldn't matter, right?
- 2:28:40SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
- 2:28:40SPEAKER_10: And I know I'm teetering close to that.
- 2:28:42SPEAKER_10: I don't really see people in terms of color.
- 2:28:44SPEAKER_10: I'm not trying to go down that, go down that road.
- 2:28:46SPEAKER_10: But what I'm saying is in terms of the demographic makeup of the identity of the jurors, it shouldn't matter.
- 2:28:51SPEAKER_10: But in the world that we live in and the way that the left thrives off of identity and these dynamics, it really does just turn all of that completely on its head.
- 2:29:02SPEAKER_10: That blast is absolutely right.
- 2:29:05SPEAKER_10: If you took this scenario up out, if you removed it from the reality of the Lindsey Clancy case, and let's just say that this was a made-for-TV movie or film, and you had this dynamic, can you imagine the outrage that would ensue of having, you know, the footage of this all-white female juror and one other uh uh white dude all in the room telling the one black man, you know, like, hey, you need to get on board with this.
- 2:29:32SPEAKER_10: What's your problem?
- 2:29:32SPEAKER_10: And as a sidebar note, and I didn't mention earlier this morning, it turns out that there was um talk from the jurors that he had said that he had reasonable doubt.
- 2:29:43SPEAKER_10: That was not true.
- 2:29:44SPEAKER_10: Apparently, according to another juror, they said that he he explicitly said he did not have reasonable doubt.
- 2:29:53SPEAKER_10: He believed that she was sane when she did this, even though they were stressing that.
- 2:29:57SPEAKER_10: And on top of that, consider the fact that the one male holdout, as we talked about earlier in the show, Max, that one male holdout had gone on local, had gone on national news, and about how kind of appalled, I'm using my words, not his, about how this lone juror had brought in the exercise ban in a water bottle and was demonstrating the difficulty of it.
- 2:30:16SPEAKER_10: I mean, this just from a liberal identity politics standpoint just turns, again, everything on its head.
- 2:30:22SPEAKER_09: Yeah, it throws everything that they claim to believe in.
- 2:30:24SPEAKER_09: Again, we're talking about the oppression hierarchy here, right?
- 2:30:27SPEAKER_09: So you have white women, we don't want your white tears, blah, blah, blah.
- 2:30:32SPEAKER_09: You have white men at the top, white men are evil.
- 2:30:34SPEAKER_09: And then, like, somewhere down there is like black men, and but they're below or above, however you want to do it.
- 2:30:43SPEAKER_09: You you have more of a heart for black men than you do white women, right?
- 2:30:47SPEAKER_09: So that's like the oppression olympics of the uh of the left.
- 2:30:51SPEAKER_09: And oppression Olympics.
- 2:30:53SPEAKER_09: Yeah, I gotta think of racehorse.
- 2:30:55SPEAKER_09: Oppression Olympics.
- 2:30:56SPEAKER_31: You can find it online.
- 2:30:58SPEAKER_31: They got one of these.
- 2:30:58SPEAKER_31: You you guys missed this era where I learned this in school, like in college.
- 2:31:02SPEAKER_31: They taught us that circle.
- 2:31:04SPEAKER_31: Yeah, it's a little chart.
- 2:31:05SPEAKER_31: Yeah, and uh it shows you the different and you would get points like different the science is settled on this.
- 2:31:10SPEAKER_09: This was book one, it was it was incredible.
- 2:31:13SPEAKER_09: Okay, well, then on that chart, yeah.
- 2:31:15SPEAKER_09: This this time everyone agrees.
- 2:31:19SPEAKER_09: But no, it's it's gonna break their brains.
- 2:31:21SPEAKER_09: They're not gonna know what to do with this.
- 2:31:23SPEAKER_09: But again, God bless this guy.
- 2:31:25SPEAKER_09: He's um total hero.
- 2:31:27SPEAKER_32: Can I ask a question for the people in the room who were alive or closer to alive during the um, oh gosh, this is gonna well during the O.J.
- 2:31:35SPEAKER_32: Simpson trial.
- 2:31:36SPEAKER_10: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 2:31:37SPEAKER_10: Okay.
- 2:31:38SPEAKER_10: I followed it.
- 2:31:38SPEAKER_10: I listened to that trial.
- 2:31:39SPEAKER_32: So can I just get some context in terms of what the jury was like in the aftermath of that trial?
- 2:31:47SPEAKER_32: Were they out doing interviews like this?
- 2:31:49SPEAKER_32: Was it as there as big of a magnifying glass on those jurors as there is with this case?
- 2:31:54SPEAKER_32: No, my is this new?
- 2:31:55SPEAKER_32: Is this different?
- 2:31:56SPEAKER_10: I mean, it it it is.
- 2:31:57SPEAKER_10: The the jury interviews only came to light over the course of like maybe the last 10 years.
- 2:32:03SPEAKER_10: Certainly in the aftermath of the OJ trial.
- 2:32:06SPEAKER_10: I do not personally recall, and I think uh Melinda's listening, or anybody else who remembers too, so she could chime in that.
- 2:32:12SPEAKER_10: I do not recall that there were interviews like this post uh OJ Simpson, wherein they were explaining until later on.
- 2:32:21SPEAKER_10: And then later on, we found out that jurors actually came forward and said that yeah, we were letting him off because of what had happened with Rodney, with Rodney King at the uh at the time.
- 2:32:32SPEAKER_10: I can tell you that there was a if social media had existed during the time of the OJ trial, we would have had a very, very similar dynamic to what we're dealing with now in the Lindsay Clancy trial with this divide between individuals for very much the same reasons.
- 2:32:47SPEAKER_10: The majority of people, when it came to OJ, understood and believed that he killed Ron and Nicole, but this was, you know, retribution and revenge for what had happened ancillary to him, much in the same way.
- 2:32:59SPEAKER_10: That's why when this whole thing started, it was all it was all very reminiscent.
- 2:33:03SPEAKER_10: And thank goodness we didn't have social media back then, because even then, amongst your friends, you saw it in the smattering of commentary on TV, but we didn't have the internet pushing out, you know, and creating the group think that we see that we see taking the city.
- 2:33:15SPEAKER_10: Was it now televised?
- 2:33:16SPEAKER_31: It wasn't, was it?
- 2:33:17SPEAKER_10: No, you can listen to it though.
- 2:33:18SPEAKER_10: I was okay, I was working as a public real estate auctioneer at the time, driving about 240 to 300 miles a day just all around Southern California.
- 2:33:27SPEAKER_10: And I listened almost to the entirety of that trial on local, on local uh KFI uh radio because it was just it was so fascinating.
- 2:33:35SPEAKER_31: Because there is an argument I've heard from some um, I guess lawyers that maybe the the televising these trials and making them into almost like public shows is actually really negative for um the justice system.
- 2:33:48SPEAKER_31: And it's hard because on one hand, you have like transparency and the public deserves to know all these things.
- 2:33:53SPEAKER_31: But then on the other hand, it turns them into, yeah, kind of a reality show for people watching.
- 2:33:58SPEAKER_31: And you look at Lindsay.
- 2:34:00SPEAKER_31: Clancy's lawyer, how he behaved himself, how he's acted in the aftermath.
- 2:34:05SPEAKER_31: I mean, he's putting on a show.
- 2:34:06SPEAKER_31: He's an actor.
- 2:34:07SPEAKER_31: And it's kind of gross and really, I don't like it.
- 2:34:10SPEAKER_31: And I think now we have jurors who are like, well, now's my chance to get, you know, some limelight.
- 2:34:14SPEAKER_32: It feels very inappropriate.
- 2:34:16SPEAKER_32: That's why I brought up the OJ trial, too.
- 2:34:17SPEAKER_32: It just, it this feels you like this feels like something we shouldn't be okay with as a society.
- 2:34:22SPEAKER_32: When you have a high-profile case like this and the jurors, days after their, you know, mistrial, um, are out, it's, you know, giving interviews, revealing um, I, you know, information about the identities of the other jurors, how they behaved in those rooms.
- 2:34:36SPEAKER_32: I mean, I just I think that the deliberation process for a case like this that has become so significant culturally, was significant from the beginning, should be treated with more reverence almost.
- 2:34:49SPEAKER_32: Like what happens in that room should kind of be sacred is maybe too strong a word, but that should be private.
- 2:34:55SPEAKER_32: Otherwise, of course, that jury is going to be influenced by what is going to come after their verdict.
- 2:35:00SPEAKER_10: Well, and this serves as a really good example, Grace, of after the OJ Simpson trial, those jurors could have been vocal and could have been interviewed, and they chose not to at the time.
- 2:35:16SPEAKER_10: But they also chose not to at a time when you didn't have the internet like we have now and you didn't have social media.
- 2:35:23SPEAKER_10: So those were individuals who went in, made the decision that they made for the reasons that they made it, but at the same time also were like, I just want to go back to my life now.
- 2:35:31SPEAKER_10: Yeah, I don't want to be swept up in any of the circus.
- 2:35:34SPEAKER_10: What you're seeing now is the byproduct of the world that we live in now with social media, and anybody can become a rock star.
- 2:35:41SPEAKER_10: These women on the jury who were speaking to the I I was, Grace, to your point, I was stunned that they were interviews this quickly afterwards.
- 2:35:51SPEAKER_10: Yes.
- 2:35:51SPEAKER_10: And I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait a second.
- 2:35:53SPEAKER_10: These women are coming out and saying all this, and then immediately I was like, Yeah, of course they are, because they all want their 15 minutes of fame.
- 2:35:59SPEAKER_10: They all feel like what they did was righteous.
- 2:36:03SPEAKER_10: Was righteous.
- 2:36:04SPEAKER_10: Um, and and so it is.
- 2:36:06SPEAKER_10: It's a very, very good comparison of the change in times.
- 2:36:09SPEAKER_10: Um, I want to get to a few things here.
- 2:36:11SPEAKER_10: I did have a comment that rolled in.
- 2:36:12SPEAKER_10: Uh, correct, John.
- 2:36:13SPEAKER_10: There were non-interviews done with the jurors after the OJ trial.
- 2:36:17SPEAKER_10: So somebody wants to chime in on that.
- 2:36:19SPEAKER_10: I got this comment that came in, uh, quoting a bunch of female white nurses.
- 2:36:23SPEAKER_10: What question mark?
- 2:36:25SPEAKER_10: Definitely don't mention the two other men that voted not guilty and the fact that Ben Shapiro said he would have voted not guilty.
- 2:36:31SPEAKER_10: You guys are being ridiculous.
- 2:36:33SPEAKER_10: Um, first off, there were multiple jurors that were nurses.
- 2:36:38SPEAKER_32: Yeah.
- 2:36:38SPEAKER_32: And they were what then they were white women.
- 2:36:40SPEAKER_32: And and okay, just culture, because I I think I made that comment.
- 2:36:43SPEAKER_32: I mean, they have, you know, culturally, uh, uh uh socially today, the idea of white men going along with they've been literally trained to listen to the other women in the room.
- 2:36:54SPEAKER_32: Again, the experts, the nurses in this room, um, I think the idea that they were swayed by that demographic and those credentials is a completely fair thing to say.
- 2:37:03SPEAKER_10: There would have been a mistrial.
- 2:37:05SPEAKER_10: Most experts say there would have been a mistrial if there wasn't already a mistrial, based off of what the jurors said about those nurses who were offering up their expertise as nurses to the toxicology report.
- 2:37:17SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
- 2:37:17SPEAKER_10: You can't do that.
- 2:37:18SPEAKER_10: So uh, first off, yes, there were to the comment, there were uh white nurses on there.
- 2:37:23SPEAKER_10: Um, two other men that voted not guilty, that didn't happen.
- 2:37:26SPEAKER_10: There was only one other guy on the jury in the loan holdout that we're talking about now.
- 2:37:29SPEAKER_10: And Ben Shapiro said he would have voted not guilty.
- 2:37:31SPEAKER_10: That's just one other thing that I can disagree with Ben Shapiro on.
- 2:37:34SPEAKER_32: Yeah, I whatever.
- 2:37:35SPEAKER_32: Okay.
- 2:37:36SPEAKER_10: Well, and I care.
- 2:37:37SPEAKER_31: Yeah, what?
- 2:37:38SPEAKER_31: If you look at the law, like the law in Massachusetts is insane.
- 2:37:42SPEAKER_31: It's really crazy.
- 2:37:43SPEAKER_31: It really gives people the breath to call anyone mentally ill and it should be reformed.
- 2:37:48SPEAKER_31: So I think there's a much broader conversation you could have here about like this law is crazy, and maybe it even is right under this law that she could be interpreted as not guilty, but that's insane.
- 2:37:59SPEAKER_31: And as sane people in society, we need to hold the line and say, if you killed your kids, you should probably be shot dead.
- 2:38:07SPEAKER_10: Um, I got another text that rolled in.
- 2:38:09SPEAKER_10: Uh, since we are truth-based, Johnny, I always love it when people call me.
- 2:38:13SPEAKER_10: Johnny, cheers.
- 2:38:14SPEAKER_10: Johnny, they always feel like that's a dig.
- 2:38:15SPEAKER_09: Here comes here comes a legitimate argument coming from a very serious place.
- 2:38:20SPEAKER_10: It's such a weird it's like when they do that and they call me John just ass.
- 2:38:25unknown: That's the other point.
- 2:38:26SPEAKER_10: Oh, you've given everyone a man.
- 2:38:29SPEAKER_31: Yeah.
- 2:38:30SPEAKER_10: That's right.
- 2:38:31SPEAKER_10: That's right, baby.
- 2:38:32SPEAKER_10: Um, no, they were saying that since we're truth-based, Johnny, OJ, uh, OJ's trial was televised.
- 2:38:38SPEAKER_10: Yes, it was.
- 2:38:38SPEAKER_10: I was talking about my driving around.
- 2:38:40SPEAKER_10: And honestly, I wasn't 100% sure if it was I thought that it was, but now that I think about it, it was.
- 2:38:44SPEAKER_10: But I was driving around listening to it.
- 2:38:46SPEAKER_10: So and yeah, I used to call I called myself Johnny when I was a kid.
- 2:38:51SPEAKER_10: I don't know.
- 2:38:52SPEAKER_10: Anyway, somebody had asked how they even allowed nurses to be on the jury in the first place because they had rules in place saying that it's fine if you happen to be a nurse, you just cannot offer up your expertise to any of you know the medical evidence in the case.
- 2:39:05SPEAKER_10: Let's get to a few of the uh comments on the blaster line.
- 2:39:07SPEAKER_47: Good morning, John.
- 2:39:08SPEAKER_47: Just a comment about the um lone juror being a black man.
- 2:39:11SPEAKER_47: Now, if you go back and listen to those um white women talking about the lone juror, they sound a little racist when you put it in perspective.
- 2:39:20SPEAKER_47: Have a good day.
- 2:39:21SPEAKER_10: Yeah, and that's all gonna be glossed over in the commentary around this, but what a uh what a bizarre twist.
- 2:39:26SPEAKER_10: But I'm gonna go back to what I said before.
- 2:39:28SPEAKER_10: This is an individual now who I believe could come out, you know, could come out and speak his voice, but and because of the identity politics in the nation, he's probably, you know, would not receive the backlash.
- 2:39:40SPEAKER_09: Definitely has a less chance lesser lesser chance of getting shot, like I predicted earlier in the show.
- 2:39:45SPEAKER_15: So is this just a master plan to completely invalidate the possibility of another juror to be selected because this has been so well advertised and put out in the public domain that there's no way, shape, or form to get a quote unquote impartial jury.
- 2:40:02SPEAKER_10: Well, this is the difficulty that I know that they said that they were going to be facing with a retrial, is that they were probably gonna have to move venues because it'd be a thing.
- 2:40:11SPEAKER_10: I would hope so.
- 2:40:12SPEAKER_10: Well, and I think that people also I I I I understand the sentiment and the line of thinking, but I also think people overestimate how many individuals actually do pay attention to things on a daily basis.
- 2:40:26SPEAKER_10: Let me give you a case in point.
- 2:40:28SPEAKER_10: Up until about two weeks ago, if you had told me, John, tell me the details of the Lindsey Clancy case, I would have said, I have no idea.
- 2:40:36SPEAKER_10: Because I wasn't paying attention to it at all.
- 2:40:39SPEAKER_10: Even with what I do for a living, I was not paying attention to it.
- 2:40:43SPEAKER_10: It was not relevant to the world that I was working in in prepping for the show.
- 2:40:47SPEAKER_10: So there are people out there who you can find people.
- 2:40:51SPEAKER_10: It's gonna, it's a difficult task for the, you know, for for the uh for the defense and the uh prosecution, but there are people out there who who may not be aware of the situation.
- 2:41:01SPEAKER_09: Okay, let's I was just gonna say, let's let's move it to rural Texas and wrap this thing up quick.
- 2:41:08SPEAKER_31: All right, let's where's where do they have the the the people that just line up and they just shoot someone who did something awful?
- 2:41:16SPEAKER_31: Oh yeah.
- 2:41:17SPEAKER_31: Good guard, Idaho! What's that called?
- 2:41:19SPEAKER_32: Um thank you.
- 2:41:22SPEAKER_31: Let's move it to Idaho where they have firing squads.
- 2:41:24SPEAKER_31: Wow, sorry, that really took me a second.
- 2:41:26SPEAKER_31: I did I mention the brain is dead.
- 2:41:28SPEAKER_31: Yeah, sorry.
- 2:41:30SPEAKER_10: Let's go here in the time that we have left.
- 2:41:33SPEAKER_10: Um, open AI and anthropic researchers are ramping up calls for an AI uh slowdown and a warning of an existential crisis to humanity after the resignation of a researcher at anthropic fueled uh the fresh scrutiny.
- 2:41:48SPEAKER_10: I'm not gonna dive into the full details of the story.
- 2:41:50SPEAKER_10: We'll be talking about this at length with our AI analyst and expert David Gartenstein Ross on the show Tuesday uh next week.
- 2:41:56SPEAKER_10: I am curious if you guys have seen the commentary around what this guy that left Anthropic and what he's saying about AI.
- 2:42:03SPEAKER_10: Are you guys familiar with this?
- 2:42:05SPEAKER_07: There was a deep discussion in my friend group chat about this the other day.
- 2:42:09SPEAKER_10: So here's a question that I have.
- 2:42:10SPEAKER_10: If you're that worried and concerned about it, why did you leave?
- 2:42:15SPEAKER_10: That's the part of it I don't understand.
- 2:42:17SPEAKER_10: Like if he works for these AI, this this AI company and he's worried about the future of artificial intelligence and what these companies are doing, wouldn't you want to stay on to be a part of making sure that this doesn't get out of hand?
- 2:42:32SPEAKER_10: I mean, I'm maybe there's some internal dynamics wherein he was butting heads with too many individuals, but that's a part of it that I kind of went, you know, why are you bailing, why are you bailing out on on this?
- 2:42:45SPEAKER_10: Uh that's the part I didn't I didn't I didn't quite uh I didn't quite get.
- 2:42:48SPEAKER_10: But, you know, Max, we talked about this before.
- 2:42:50SPEAKER_10: Are you buying into these doomsday, uh uh doomsday scenarios, or do you think that we will survive our AI overlords?
- 2:42:56SPEAKER_09: Yeah, it's less about the AI itself that I'm worried about, more about the human intention for AI, right?
- 2:43:03SPEAKER_09: In this specific circumstance, where I think Anthropic just came out and said like they did an audit report, and there's like over 15 million requests from their system to like develop nuclear weapons or to develop some kind of pandemic, or oh, you know, there's not what I expected.
- 2:43:18SPEAKER_09: So it's like people are using it for nefarious motives, no doubt about it.
- 2:43:23SPEAKER_09: The one sketchy thing about this guy, and for those who don't know, it was this former engineer from this company that said, yes, within two years, AI will cause human extinction, and I'm very concerned about that.
- 2:43:36SPEAKER_09: But it turns out this guy had only been employed there for like six months.
- 2:43:40SPEAKER_09: Like he got there, he was there for six months and then left.
- 2:43:44SPEAKER_09: So, what the speculation is, is they're gonna have an IPO pretty soon, and it sounds like a competitor AI may have planted this guy in the company and forced him to leave so that he could, on his way out, say, This company, this AI company is going to kill you.
- 2:44:00SPEAKER_31: That's a good conspiracy.
- 2:44:02SPEAKER_31: I've also heard one that I think totally makes sense because right after I saw that tweet, I saw Bernie Sanders come out and say, We need to stop AI immediately.
- 2:44:10SPEAKER_31: All AI development should be stopped across the board.
- 2:44:13SPEAKER_31: And so I think, okay, there's a government control angle here where there are a lot of people who want to regulate AI.
- 2:44:19SPEAKER_31: And if you think about regulations and how they normally work, they would probably benefit the people at the top, like Anthropic and things like that, because it would keep competitor new AI companies from entering the market.
- 2:44:30SPEAKER_31: And places like Anthropic, OpenAI can take over as more of monopolies that are being regulated by our government.
- 2:44:37SPEAKER_31: So I think it also could be a scheme coming from Anthropic or whatever company themselves to really become the dominant AI.
- 2:44:45SPEAKER_31: Whatever's going on, it's skeevy and there's some sort of scheme, and we're not in the Terminator or whatever that movie is.
- 2:44:51SPEAKER_31: That's stupid.
- 2:44:53SPEAKER_10: That's the movie.
- 2:44:54SPEAKER_10: Matrix works too.
- 2:44:55SPEAKER_31: Although there is-like they be they take over, right?
- 2:44:58SPEAKER_10: There's actually an argument to be made that the Matrix movies serve as prequel.
- 2:45:03SPEAKER_10: I'm sorry, the Terminator movies serves uh serve as prequels to the Matrix.
- 2:45:07SPEAKER_10: Where in the Terminator, when you look at the timeline of when the Matrix took place and how far into the future it was, that you can actually watch the Terminator films as being the starting point of when I've not heard this before.
- 2:45:16SPEAKER_10: Well it's because I just shared it with you.
- 2:45:18SPEAKER_31: I've actually seen theory The Terminator.
- 2:45:21SPEAKER_31: I've actually seen it.
- 2:45:22SPEAKER_31: It was one of those movies where my husband was like, This is the greatest thing you'll ever see in your life.
- 2:45:26SPEAKER_31: Kind of like Star Wars.
- 2:45:27SPEAKER_31: And I sat down and I was like, I'll watch it for you, honey.
- 2:45:29SPEAKER_31: And it ended, and I was like, Wow, that was so bad.
- 2:45:33SPEAKER_09: Was it so awful?
- 2:45:34SPEAKER_09: Was it number one?
- 2:45:35SPEAKER_09: Terminator one or Terminator 2?
- 2:45:36SPEAKER_31: Yeah, I don't know.
- 2:45:37SPEAKER_09: I think that like Terminator 2 is I just watched I just watched it last weekend.
- 2:45:42SPEAKER_10: It's an amazing movie.
- 2:45:43SPEAKER_10: Oh, it's fantastic, it's one of the best action movies ever made.
- 2:45:45SPEAKER_10: It is so absurd.
- 2:45:46SPEAKER_10: It's like so dumb.
- 2:45:48SPEAKER_10: The first one is a is is a bit of a hard watch, and I was uh I was talking with the family about this because the soundtrack in it is just a trophy.
- 2:45:55SPEAKER_10: It's really data, it's really, really I like the synth music, and even I'm like, no, this is so bad.
- 2:46:02SPEAKER_09: Or Terminator 2.
- 2:46:03SPEAKER_09: Terminator 2.
- 2:46:04SPEAKER_09: That one stands the test of time.
- 2:46:05SPEAKER_31: It's incredibly I said the same thing about Star Wars, though, like the I guess like the original one.
- 2:46:10SPEAKER_31: I know, I know.
- 2:46:11SPEAKER_31: And my husband was extremely defensive.
- 2:46:13SPEAKER_31: He was like, no, no, it's way better than the new CGI.
- 2:46:17SPEAKER_31: It's actually more realistic than when they pull out all of these crazy.
- 2:46:20SPEAKER_31: So I was like, okay, I kind of get so he prefers to watch the more like dated, as I would say, you know, effects.
- 2:46:25SPEAKER_31: I was like, okay, well, that's an interesting take.
- 2:46:27SPEAKER_10: Well, you know, speaking of dated, I pulled this story here, and we can wrap on it, have a little fun on a Freedom Friday.
- 2:46:33SPEAKER_10: Um, you know, with the AI story, there's you know, concern about us, you know, being taken over by AI overlords, we could become extinct.
- 2:46:41SPEAKER_10: I have a list here.
- 2:46:42SPEAKER_10: Uh, these are the um uh one day they just stopped being a part of life.
- 2:46:46SPEAKER_10: 18 objects that were everywhere 20 years ago, and then poof, they vanished.
- 2:46:51SPEAKER_10: See, I thought this would be fun, especially given the age groups of everybody in the room.
- 2:46:54SPEAKER_10: See, so all right.
- 2:46:55SPEAKER_10: Let's see.
- 2:46:55SPEAKER_10: So um should we go in reverse order or should we go in um in uh yeah, we'll go in, we'll go to school in regular order.
- 2:47:02SPEAKER_10: Uh number one is film canisters, the little black plastic canisters that the roles of film came in.
- 2:47:07SPEAKER_10: Familiarity in the room?
- 2:47:09SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
- 2:47:10SPEAKER_10: I've seen.
- 2:47:10SPEAKER_10: You've seen?
- 2:47:11SPEAKER_32: Never held one, Grace?
- 2:47:13SPEAKER_10: I have no memory of the I get the feeling that if there was a black film canister that was put out, like I could immediately identify that as being a film canister.
- 2:47:21SPEAKER_10: I bet you couldn't.
- 2:47:22SPEAKER_10: Probably not.
- 2:47:23SPEAKER_10: I don't know.
- 2:47:23SPEAKER_10: Max?
- 2:47:24SPEAKER_10: Yeah, you can't.
- 2:47:25SPEAKER_10: Oh, absolutely.
- 2:47:25SPEAKER_10: Okay, yeah.
- 2:47:26SPEAKER_10: Um, the little ball inside the computer mouse.
- 2:47:29SPEAKER_10: Oh, yeah.
- 2:47:31SPEAKER_10: Sure.
- 2:47:32SPEAKER_31: Is that not there anymore?
- 2:47:33SPEAKER_31: I haven't used a mouse.
- 2:47:33SPEAKER_10: No, because they don't use um no, because they're all they're all using the um the little the little the little laser sensor.
- 2:47:40SPEAKER_10: Yeah, the little LED thing.
- 2:47:41SPEAKER_10: But you used to be able to to twist it and then pop it out and take the ball out and then play with it and put it back in.
- 2:47:45SPEAKER_10: That's what I would please.
- 2:47:46SPEAKER_09: You and me both.
- 2:47:48SPEAKER_10: Um paper tickets.
- 2:47:49SPEAKER_10: I miss paper tickets.
- 2:47:51SPEAKER_07: They're kind of making a resurgence.
- 2:47:52SPEAKER_10: Are they?
- 2:47:53SPEAKER_07: You can there are some uh games that offer you can go to like the customer service and they'll print you out a ticket because people like collectivity.
- 2:48:00SPEAKER_10: I'd like movie tickets, concert tickets, sports events.
- 2:48:04SPEAKER_10: Yeah, I miss having a physical ticket.
- 2:48:05SPEAKER_07: I like the heart ticket 100%.
- 2:48:07SPEAKER_10: Uh I remember it was last year or the year before, I was getting tickets to the to the Vikings game, to a Vikings game.
- 2:48:14SPEAKER_10: And uh I went to to Boss Man Chad over at uh at iHeart, and you know, he said he had tickets, and and I we were exchanging texts over it.
- 2:48:23SPEAKER_10: And I said, Well, can you leave him in the in the studio?
- 2:48:25SPEAKER_10: And he's like, You've clearly not been to a game for a long time.
- 2:48:28SPEAKER_10: You have to download the app, yeah, and you can get the ticket this way.
- 2:48:31SPEAKER_31: You can't even screenshot it, it like reloads, it does this whole thing.
- 2:48:35SPEAKER_31: And then, like, what on my phone dies?
- 2:48:36SPEAKER_10: Um, things that disappeared 20 years ago, newspaper vending machines.
- 2:48:41SPEAKER_10: Yeah, yes.
- 2:48:42SPEAKER_10: When was the last yeah, do you guys you guys recall newspaper vending machines?
- 2:48:45SPEAKER_07: Yeah, I haven't seen it.
- 2:48:45SPEAKER_07: I didn't know that was a thing.
- 2:48:46SPEAKER_32: No, me either.
- 2:48:47SPEAKER_32: A vending machine, like uh like the the with what snacks come in, and there would be rolled up newspapers in the slots, because that's what I'm picturing.
- 2:48:54SPEAKER_10: Anywhere that you would go outside of a convenience store, outside the store, there would be a metal box with a clear glass window on the front where you would put change in and the door you put you'd put the but it'd be one newspaper per box, yeah, right?
- 2:49:08SPEAKER_10: You'd have a stack of them in there.
- 2:49:09SPEAKER_10: They would just take one.
- 2:49:11SPEAKER_32: Like do you see what I'm saying?
- 2:49:13SPEAKER_32: Like you wouldn't have like a LA, yeah.
- 2:49:14SPEAKER_10: It was like there's a machine for the LA Tower for City Weekly.
- 2:49:19SPEAKER_10: I remember this.
- 2:49:19SPEAKER_10: Whatever.
- 2:49:20SPEAKER_10: I always thought it was funny because it was all based on the honor system because you could go in and make a buy the whole stack.
- 2:49:25SPEAKER_10: Yep.
- 2:49:27SPEAKER_10: Manufacturer specific phone chargers.
- 2:49:31SPEAKER_10: The whole house was littered with them, and finding one for your specific phone model was a pain.
- 2:49:36SPEAKER_10: So manufacturer.
- 2:49:37SPEAKER_10: Yeah, I guess there were that's that's still kind of pain.
- 2:49:41SPEAKER_10: We're not that far removed from that.
- 2:49:42SPEAKER_32: Apple had its own up until what, two years ago?
- 2:49:45SPEAKER_09: I mean lightning cords.
- 2:49:47SPEAKER_09: I mean, what do Androids have?
- 2:49:48SPEAKER_09: I don't even know.
- 2:49:48SPEAKER_32: I well, it's a univers, I think.
- 2:49:51SPEAKER_32: Now it's now it's universal because there was a law passed in the EU about it, right?
- 2:49:55SPEAKER_09: Oh, is that right?
- 2:49:56SPEAKER_09: That they have to have the same thing.
- 2:49:57SPEAKER_32: Yeah, that's why Apple made the switch from their own their own charger, you know, to USB C, right?
- 2:50:03SPEAKER_32: Oh wow.
- 2:50:03SPEAKER_09: I didn't know we're not that far removed from that, though.
- 2:50:05SPEAKER_10: We're just that's recent news.
- 2:50:07SPEAKER_32: Yeah.
- 2:50:08SPEAKER_10: This is uh this one's for uh for Catherine.
- 2:50:10SPEAKER_10: Uh uh wallet photos.
- 2:50:12SPEAKER_10: So it's not pocket wallet, but wallet photos.
- 2:50:14SPEAKER_10: I think I should I still have wallet photos.
- 2:50:16SPEAKER_10: Yeah, I do have my wallet's not near me, but yeah, I still have photos in my wallet.
- 2:50:19SPEAKER_10: I have a photo in my wallet right now.
- 2:50:20SPEAKER_10: Yeah, of my children.
- 2:50:21SPEAKER_10: Very young.
- 2:50:22SPEAKER_10: I don't have any do parents, by the way, because I have like pictures of the boys super young, but do parents go and do parents ever go and put like adult pictures of their children in their wallets?
- 2:50:33SPEAKER_10: I don't it's like what's the age cap?
- 2:50:35SPEAKER_09: No, the the wallet photo is supposed to be one that you just have in there and you never change.
- 2:50:40SPEAKER_09: Like mine right.
- 2:50:41SPEAKER_09: Mine is me and my wife at a wedding, and Harvey, our oldest, is like one year old, and it's never I'm never gonna change it because I don't I don't ever think about it.
- 2:50:50SPEAKER_09: Right.
- 2:50:51SPEAKER_31: Well, also, I would think it's rarer to get the little pictures now.
- 2:50:54SPEAKER_31: Like when kids go get their school pictures taken, do you still get that packet of them that has like the little photos?
- 2:51:00SPEAKER_31: You do.
- 2:51:00SPEAKER_10: We just got some.
- 2:51:02SPEAKER_10: I'm glad they haven't gotten rid of that.
- 2:51:03SPEAKER_10: Does anybody still go to like JC Penny's for the portraits for the family?
- 2:51:07SPEAKER_10: I hope so.
- 2:51:07SPEAKER_10: I hope so.
- 2:51:08SPEAKER_10: No, but I want to take like a stepbrother's photo with the cracked me up, and I still laugh and I still do the joke when you see one like in a television in a in a movie or a film, or if you actually see one in public and it's the family and they're all staring off in a different direction.
- 2:51:22SPEAKER_10: I'm always like, that's good.
- 2:51:23SPEAKER_10: What are you looking at?
- 2:51:24SPEAKER_10: What is the camera's here?
- 2:51:25SPEAKER_10: Why are you there?
- 2:51:27SPEAKER_10: Um, there used to be entire entertainment centers and television consoles built around media storage and audio video equipment.
- 2:51:34SPEAKER_10: I loved that.
- 2:51:35SPEAKER_10: And I still collect physical media, so I still have that personally.
- 2:51:38SPEAKER_31: Oh, like a CD holder.
- 2:51:39SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
- 2:51:40SPEAKER_10: CD holder.
- 2:51:41SPEAKER_10: I don't have a C I do, I think, yeah.
- 2:51:43SPEAKER_10: We actually still have the rack, but we don't have CDs in it right now.
- 2:51:45SPEAKER_10: Those are all in bins, but I still do have all of my all of my movies out and about.
- 2:51:49SPEAKER_10: Uh standalone GPS units.
- 2:51:52SPEAKER_10: Yes.
- 2:51:52SPEAKER_10: Oh my.
- 2:51:53SPEAKER_10: Garmin.
- 2:51:53SPEAKER_10: I never had one.
- 2:51:54SPEAKER_10: I never had a standalone GPS.
- 2:51:56SPEAKER_10: You guys ever have one?
- 2:51:57SPEAKER_10: Did you have one?
- 2:51:58SPEAKER_09: It was a big deal when we got one.
- 2:51:59SPEAKER_09: My dad was all excited.
- 2:52:00SPEAKER_09: Like, can you believe this virtual map has appeared on the screen?
- 2:52:04SPEAKER_10: You're very tech friendly, though.
- 2:52:05SPEAKER_10: That doesn't surprise me.
- 2:52:06SPEAKER_10: Like, if I were to pick anybody in the room on a Freedom Friday, I would have said, yeah, Max would have had a.
- 2:52:10SPEAKER_09: Thing is, though, is I didn't have a cell phone until my senior year of high school.
- 2:52:15SPEAKER_09: So I went my whole life without we had dial-up internet, we had not much going on.
- 2:52:21SPEAKER_09: Uh it's kind of a relatively recent development for me to get an attack.
- 2:52:25SPEAKER_09: But no, my dad, because my dad would go hunting and he had like a standalone GPS, and he just was blown away that this thing could actually like track his movement.
- 2:52:34SPEAKER_09: TomTom.
- 2:52:34SPEAKER_10: Remember the TomTom?
- 2:52:35SPEAKER_10: That was a that was a popular word.
- 2:52:37SPEAKER_31: I don't really understand how anyone survived without a GPS.
- 2:52:42SPEAKER_10: Thomas Guides, maps, map quest.
- 2:52:44SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
- 2:52:44SPEAKER_10: You learn map quests.
- 2:52:47SPEAKER_10: Makes sense to me.
- 2:52:49SPEAKER_31: I get the printing map quest before map quest.
- 2:52:52SPEAKER_31: I I don't understand how you got it.
- 2:52:54SPEAKER_31: You had a little map, and someone told you, meet me here, and you like went.
- 2:52:58SPEAKER_31: Where do you even how do you even find it on the map?
- 2:53:00SPEAKER_31: I just don't feel like that was a real time.
- 2:53:02SPEAKER_31: And I think everyone's lying to us.
- 2:53:03SPEAKER_31: And I don't know if that's a hot take.
- 2:53:06SPEAKER_09: Everyone just got lost.
- 2:53:08SPEAKER_31: Doesn't make sense.
- 2:53:09SPEAKER_31: Yeah, did everyone just get lost constantly?
- 2:53:11SPEAKER_10: No, no.
- 2:53:11SPEAKER_10: You know, see, I used to be really good if I if I went to a location, kind of like a homing pigeon, like I could immediately find my way back to that location.
- 2:53:21SPEAKER_10: I can't do that anymore.
- 2:53:22SPEAKER_10: And I don't know if it's the nature of the of the roads and the freeways in Minnesota or if I just lost that skill.
- 2:53:31SPEAKER_10: Because I used it used to be I would need a map to go to the place one time, and then I could always go back there.
- 2:53:37SPEAKER_10: And I cannot do that anymore.
- 2:53:38SPEAKER_10: I still don't know, you know, all the if I I think it's 494 over here, right?
- 2:53:42SPEAKER_10: Is that right?
- 2:53:43SPEAKER_10: I still don't know the the the freeways around here.
- 2:53:46SPEAKER_10: I'm bad.
- 2:53:46SPEAKER_32: Are you shrugging?
- 2:53:47SPEAKER_31: The numbers, like yeah, I who knows?
- 2:53:49SPEAKER_31: People will be like, yeah, you go north on 35.
- 2:53:52SPEAKER_31: I'm like, that could be anything.
- 2:53:53SPEAKER_09: I got the Twin Cities boiled down to a science at this point, I think.
- 2:53:57SPEAKER_10: Uh let's see.
- 2:53:58SPEAKER_10: Encyclopedia sets?
- 2:53:59SPEAKER_10: Yeah, I don't have those anymore.
- 2:54:01SPEAKER_10: Have you ever opened an encyclopedia, Grace?
- 2:54:04SPEAKER_32: Well, yes, but I was like a book nerd as a kid.
- 2:54:07SPEAKER_32: Um, you know what?
- 2:54:07SPEAKER_10: So I yeah.
- 2:54:09SPEAKER_10: Isaac?
- 2:54:10SPEAKER_07: I have.
- 2:54:10SPEAKER_07: My grandparents.
- 2:54:11SPEAKER_07: I remember playing with them.
- 2:54:12SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
- 2:54:13SPEAKER_09: I like the encyclopedias were cool.
- 2:54:14SPEAKER_09: And you would have you'd have each one numbered, and it would be like this is one through seven, and some of them would be thicker, some of them would be thinner.
- 2:54:23SPEAKER_09: And you're like, I wonder why this one is.
- 2:54:24SPEAKER_09: Maybe that was just me.
- 2:54:25SPEAKER_07: You remember the friends episode where they had the encyclopedia salesman?
- 2:54:29SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
- 2:54:29SPEAKER_07: And Joey only knew.
- 2:54:30SPEAKER_07: What did he get V?
- 2:54:31SPEAKER_10: Did he get V?
- 2:54:32SPEAKER_10: Yeah, he only got V.
- 2:54:33SPEAKER_07: We want to talk vivisex.
- 2:54:34SPEAKER_10: Yeah, he was going to talk vivisex.
- 2:54:36SPEAKER_10: Great episode.
- 2:54:37SPEAKER_10: Um, to Catherine's point, it says, yes, we got lost.
- 2:54:39SPEAKER_10: And then we sat for 30 minutes in our cars to consult the Hudson's map book.
- 2:54:43SPEAKER_31: Okay, there you go.
- 2:54:44SPEAKER_31: But yeah, if you're going to Target, like it's not like they had Target on the map, right?
- 2:54:50SPEAKER_10: Uh no, they didn't.
- 2:54:53SPEAKER_10: No, they wouldn't have the you wouldn't have no.
- 2:54:55SPEAKER_31: How do you and then how do you how did you get the address of Target so that you could get the road?
- 2:54:59SPEAKER_10: Well, we also didn't have well, I you didn't have as many targets either.
- 2:55:03SPEAKER_10: So I mean, you had them, but they weren't as prolific as the case.
- 2:55:06SPEAKER_10: I think we're in a simulation and no one was alive.
- 2:55:09SPEAKER_10: You followed the address on your on your monthly coupon book, okay?
- 2:55:13SPEAKER_10: No, you okay, hold on a second.
- 2:55:14SPEAKER_10: So let me now that I'm catching up mentally as we headed to the last few minutes of the show.
- 2:55:18SPEAKER_10: No, what would happen?
- 2:55:19SPEAKER_10: You would just go by the address.
- 2:55:20SPEAKER_10: You would get the address of what the target was and then.
- 2:55:22SPEAKER_10: Where'd you find the address?
- 2:55:29SPEAKER_10: You wanted to go.
- 2:55:30SPEAKER_10: You would even on one side, odd on the other.
- 2:55:32SPEAKER_07: Are you even aware of it's so crazy that if like I was going over to like you know one of your houses back in the day and I just got lost and showed up an hour late, you just kind of had to sit there and be like, Well, I hope you didn't get in like a massive car.
- 2:55:45SPEAKER_07: I hope you didn't die.
- 2:55:46SPEAKER_07: Like, I hope he's just lost.
- 2:55:47SPEAKER_07: You can't just like call or shoot a text.
- 2:55:50SPEAKER_07: It's like, oh, well, I wonder where they are.
- 2:55:51SPEAKER_07: They're an hour late.
- 2:55:52SPEAKER_31: That's the biggest argument for simulation.
- 2:55:54SPEAKER_09: Then you had to memorize your friends' phone numbers, too.
- 2:55:58SPEAKER_09: Um, let's run through this quick.
- 2:56:01SPEAKER_09: Did you not have to do that?
- 2:56:03SPEAKER_09: You memorize your best friend's phone numbers.
- 2:56:05SPEAKER_10: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 2:56:06SPEAKER_09: Of course.
- 2:56:06SPEAKER_09: Of course.
- 2:56:07SPEAKER_10: I don't even know my wife's phone number right now.
- 2:56:09SPEAKER_10: I couldn't tell you what it is.
- 2:56:10SPEAKER_10: I only know Melinda's because hers is one number off from mine.
- 2:56:13SPEAKER_10: That's the only reason.
- 2:56:14SPEAKER_10: I don't know what Kyle's or Logan's are.
- 2:56:16SPEAKER_10: I would be like Michael Scott or Jim inside the office when he got lost.
- 2:56:20SPEAKER_31: Yeah, go to Petsmart and they're like, what's your treats rewards?
- 2:56:22SPEAKER_31: And I'm like, give me one second.
- 2:56:23SPEAKER_31: I gotta get my husband up here.
- 2:56:26SPEAKER_31: Oh my gosh, you guys.
- 2:56:28SPEAKER_10: Um CDs, CDs went away, aside from the obvious music CDs, but CDs aren't really as, you know.
- 2:56:34SPEAKER_10: I mean, they're still around.
- 2:56:35SPEAKER_10: I still have CDs, but um, booklets inside of video game cases.
- 2:56:38SPEAKER_10: Those are still around.
- 2:56:39SPEAKER_31: Oh well, no, there's no physical video games, right?
- 2:56:43SPEAKER_10: They're starting to.
- 2:56:44SPEAKER_10: You can still buy some of the GOM, but they're really getting away from it.
- 2:56:47SPEAKER_09: But yes, the little like instruction manual introduction on the inside flap of the video game.
- 2:56:52SPEAKER_09: Yeah, you're right.
- 2:56:53SPEAKER_09: Yeah, amazing.
- 2:56:54SPEAKER_07: Yes.
- 2:56:55SPEAKER_07: The booklet inside the CD uh case with all the lyrics to each side.
- 2:56:58SPEAKER_07: Yeah, I love that.
- 2:57:00SPEAKER_10: Just the best.
- 2:57:01SPEAKER_10: Uh swappable mobile uh mobile phone batteries are basically extinct.
- 2:57:05SPEAKER_10: Yep.
- 2:57:05SPEAKER_10: Yeah, that's not the case anymore.
- 2:57:07SPEAKER_10: You used to have to.
- 2:57:08SPEAKER_09: No, if you break this thing open, they have a secret police that comes after you, apparently.
- 2:57:12SPEAKER_09: Uh credit card imprinters.
- 2:57:15SPEAKER_10: What does that even mean?
- 2:57:16SPEAKER_10: So the when you used to get the credit card, they would they would uh you set it on on a machine and it would have a copy on there, and you have to slide the slide the metal slider on top of the.
- 2:57:27SPEAKER_32: I've only seen this in Home Alone.
- 2:57:29SPEAKER_32: I've only seen this in a Home Alone movie.
- 2:57:31SPEAKER_10: Yes, it is in there.
- 2:57:32SPEAKER_10: Sorry, gonna the the red plastic spreader stick in the cheese and crackers packs.
- 2:57:39SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
- 2:57:39SPEAKER_10: Oh yeah.
- 2:57:40SPEAKER_07: Yes, I remember that.
- 2:57:42SPEAKER_10: Okay, do you not familiar with it?
- 2:57:43SPEAKER_10: So it was a it was a rectangle package of rectangle crackers.
- 2:57:48SPEAKER_10: Right.
- 2:57:48SPEAKER_10: Okay.
- 2:57:49SPEAKER_10: And then one section.
- 2:57:50SPEAKER_10: One section.
- 2:57:50SPEAKER_10: Then it had a square, a square portion of the rectangle package that had the cheese.
- 2:57:55SPEAKER_07: Just the most processed thing.
- 2:57:57SPEAKER_32: Yeah, I'm I guess I'm remembering, I'm kind of remembering that.
- 2:57:59SPEAKER_32: But what, like the the plastic spreader has gone extinct?
- 2:58:02SPEAKER_10: Like a little tiny red uh uh rectangled spreader where you would go and take it.
- 2:58:08SPEAKER_32: Right, do they don't have that anymore?
- 2:58:09SPEAKER_32: That was like a technological advancement.
- 2:58:11SPEAKER_32: Yeah, they want to see our fingers now.
- 2:58:13SPEAKER_10: It says it says uh you're just supposed to dip them in cheese like an uncivilized monster now.
- 2:58:18SPEAKER_10: Yeah, they don't have there anymore.
- 2:58:19SPEAKER_10: No, we need the red spreader band.
- 2:58:21SPEAKER_10: I bet it was a choking hazard.
- 2:58:23SPEAKER_10: Because it was small enough to be that.
- 2:58:25SPEAKER_10: Um in-car stereo systems with removable head unit.
- 2:58:29SPEAKER_07: Removable head unit.
- 2:58:30SPEAKER_10: Oh yeah, there was a security feature.
- 2:58:32SPEAKER_10: So you had a stereo on your car, you had a stereo in the car, but you could pop off the actual uh faceplate to it.
- 2:58:40SPEAKER_10: So it was just this blank metal, uh blank plastic background.
- 2:58:45SPEAKER_10: So basically it took away all the functionality.
- 2:58:48SPEAKER_10: Why would you why would you want to hurry up?
- 2:58:49SPEAKER_10: Because that's why your stereo didn't get stolen.
- 2:58:51SPEAKER_10: So you showed up to your friend's house and barked on the screen and walked in with half your stereo?
- 2:58:55SPEAKER_10: You had a case that came with it, like a sunglasses case.
- 2:59:04SPEAKER_10: It was a a symbol of status of the look, you could pop it open.
- 2:59:09SPEAKER_10: So look at this, look at the pioneer stereo that I got, and you would have the faceplate to the pioneer stereo, where if you looked at the car, it would just be this this uh flat plastic place where that would go and it had all the buttons and knobs on it.
- 2:59:21SPEAKER_32: I'm trying to think of what what the equivalent of that today would be.
- 2:59:24SPEAKER_07: That is like this goes on the more.
- 2:59:25SPEAKER_07: I think Catherine's right.
- 2:59:26SPEAKER_07: It was all a simulation.
- 2:59:27SPEAKER_32: You're all gaslighting us.
- 2:59:29SPEAKER_32: This never happens.
- 2:59:30SPEAKER_32: This is not a world that existed.
- 2:59:31SPEAKER_10: Max, did you not ever have one of those?
- 2:59:33SPEAKER_10: The removable faceplate on the stereo?
- 2:59:34SPEAKER_09: No, but I had buddies that did.
- 2:59:35SPEAKER_09: And with that, I must depart.
- 2:59:38SPEAKER_09: All right.
- 2:59:38SPEAKER_09: Thank you, Max.
- 2:59:39SPEAKER_09: Goodbye, guys.
- 2:59:40SPEAKER_10: We'll wrap up this list without you.
- 2:59:42SPEAKER_10: It was good having you.
- 2:59:43SPEAKER_10: Thank you so much.
- 2:59:43SPEAKER_10: Max Reimber, representative, everybody.
- 2:59:47SPEAKER_10: Round of applause.
- 2:59:48SPEAKER_10: Fantastic job this morning.
- 2:59:50SPEAKER_10: We'll see you again next week, my friend.
- 2:59:52SPEAKER_10: Um, all right, just got three more left on the list as we close out uh Friday's uh show.
- 2:59:56SPEAKER_10: Uh the long extended antenna on cars.
- 3:00:00SPEAKER_31: Oh no, I remember that because if you would go into a parking garage, it would hit the hit the top of the garage sometimes, you know?
- 3:00:07SPEAKER_10: Yep.
- 3:00:08SPEAKER_10: Um so the equivalent would be where you could pop, you can still pop the quick release changer on the front uh wheel of your bicycle.
- 3:00:17SPEAKER_10: Or you could go and pop it off when you lock it up and take the wheel with you to keep people from stealing your bike.
- 3:00:23SPEAKER_10: What?
- 3:00:23SPEAKER_32: Our society is so broken that we have to do this.
- 3:00:26SPEAKER_10: They still do that.
- 3:00:26SPEAKER_31: Yeah, there were a lot of threat theft prevention concerns.
- 3:00:29SPEAKER_10: Uh the last two is I remember how ubiquitous ashtrays were.
- 3:00:33SPEAKER_10: Yeah, 100%.
- 3:00:34SPEAKER_10: They were everywhere.
- 3:00:34SPEAKER_32: Yeah, I don't remember that.
- 3:00:35SPEAKER_10: Everywhere.
- 3:00:36SPEAKER_32: But I've heard that.
- 3:00:37SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
- 3:00:38SPEAKER_10: Um, and lastly, they say National Geographic Time Life and Boys' Life magazine collections.
- 3:00:44SPEAKER_10: I never had any of those.
- 3:00:46SPEAKER_07: My grandparents had a National Geographic collection.
- 3:00:48SPEAKER_07: Oh yeah.
- 3:00:48SPEAKER_07: Thought it was kind of interesting.
- 3:00:50SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
- 3:00:50SPEAKER_10: It was for a lot of for a lot of reasons, especially if you were a young Lat.
- 3:00:53SPEAKER_07: Yep.
- 3:00:54SPEAKER_10: The girls have no idea what I'm talking about.
- 3:00:56SPEAKER_10: And I'm totally fine with that.
- 3:00:57SPEAKER_10: I'm totally fine with that.
- 3:00:58SPEAKER_10: Sounds nice though.
- 3:00:59SPEAKER_10: Yeah, they had a lot of uh, there was a lot of uh explicit photos in the National Geographic.
- 3:01:04SPEAKER_32: Yeah, I surmised.
- 3:01:05SPEAKER_32: What?
- 3:01:06SPEAKER_10: Yeah, sorry.
- 3:01:07SPEAKER_07: Yeah, I kind of missed those.
- 3:01:08SPEAKER_07: I'm I'm not missed like miss.
- 3:01:10SPEAKER_07: I miss duh.
- 3:01:11SPEAKER_07: Like didn't see those.
- 3:01:13SPEAKER_07: Like miss d.
- 3:01:14SPEAKER_31: I went to like animals, National Geographic.
- 3:01:17SPEAKER_31: What do you mean explicit photos?
- 3:01:19SPEAKER_32: Feel like topless women in the jungle and the tribes just doing any anything.
- 3:01:27SPEAKER_10: You have to remember, this was a time pre-internet.
- 3:01:30SPEAKER_10: Okay, we were looking, the boys were searching for whatever they could find.
- 3:01:34SPEAKER_31: You're 100% correct.
- 3:01:36SPEAKER_31: It's like the the anatomy picture where you can only see the muscles, and they're like, all right, we're getting close.
- 3:01:43SPEAKER_10: She's not wrong.
- 3:01:45SPEAKER_10: She is not wrong.
- 3:01:48SPEAKER_10: That's exactly what it was.
- 3:01:50SPEAKER_10: Simulation.
- 3:01:51SPEAKER_10: Uh, let me go here just briefly.
- 3:01:52SPEAKER_17: Morning, everybody.
- 3:01:53SPEAKER_17: Justin from Zimmerman.
- 3:01:56SPEAKER_17: Regarding the car stereos, John Justice is 100% not wrong.
- 3:02:02SPEAKER_17: That was a thing when I was in high school.
- 3:02:04SPEAKER_17: I graduated in 1997.
- 3:02:06SPEAKER_17: Have a good day.
- 3:02:07SPEAKER_17: Yeah, it was the best.
- 3:02:08SPEAKER_07: The idea of it being a status symbol.
- 3:02:09SPEAKER_07: In the class?
- 3:02:10SPEAKER_07: Would you bring it into school then?
- 3:02:11SPEAKER_07: Sure.
- 3:02:12unknown: What?
- 3:02:12SPEAKER_07: Like, you need to just like put it in your laptop.
- 3:02:14SPEAKER_10: When the show's over, I'll show you guys.
- 3:02:16SPEAKER_10: See what it looks like.
- 3:02:16SPEAKER_10: Because maybe you're just lost on what it on what it looks like.
- 3:02:19SPEAKER_32: Like, was everyone carrying a purse at that time?
- 3:02:22SPEAKER_10: The stereos were the stereos were a lot different than they are now.
- 3:02:26SPEAKER_10: I mean, they were analog.
- 3:02:27SPEAKER_10: They had touch buttons on them, and then the CD to go into it.
- 3:02:30SPEAKER_31: Do all with your hands.
- 3:02:31SPEAKER_31: How big are we?
- 3:02:31SPEAKER_32: Yeah.
- 3:02:32SPEAKER_32: What size?
- 3:02:33SPEAKER_10: Just the size of your stereo, like this.
- 3:02:34SPEAKER_32: Could it fit in your pocket?
- 3:02:36SPEAKER_10: Is my question.
- 3:02:37SPEAKER_10: You can throw it in your back pocket.
- 3:02:38SPEAKER_10: Okay.
- 3:02:38SPEAKER_10: They're very thick.
- 3:02:39SPEAKER_10: Okay.
- 3:02:39SPEAKER_10: I'll show you a picture when the show's over.
- 3:02:40SPEAKER_10: I'll do that.
- 3:02:41unknown: Interesting.
- 3:02:41SPEAKER_10: Uh, and that wraps up the list this morning.
- 3:02:43SPEAKER_10: Isaac, producer Isaac, thank you so much.
- 3:02:45SPEAKER_07: Of course.
- 3:02:46SPEAKER_10: Good having you here this morning.
- 3:02:48SPEAKER_10: Catherine and Grace, thank you so much for joining the show this morning.
- 3:02:50SPEAKER_10: I'll see you guys in the halls as soon as we're done here.
- 3:02:52SPEAKER_10: But thank you for coming in.
- 3:02:53SPEAKER_10: Anything you guys want to mention before we wrap up on our end?
- 3:02:56SPEAKER_10: I know we got stuff going on, so uh you guys can can divvy it up amongst yourselves what you want to promote.
- 3:03:00SPEAKER_32: I mean, the big one is the fall briefing.
- 3:03:02SPEAKER_32: It's happening a week from this Saturday.
- 3:03:04SPEAKER_32: So it's Saturday, September 19th at the gorgeous winery at Sovereign Estate out in Waconia.
- 3:03:09SPEAKER_32: We are having Byron York coming in and giving us an insider's look at what he thinks is going to happen in the midterm elections.
- 3:03:16SPEAKER_32: It is going to be a great talk, but it's also just going to be a lovely evening.
- 3:03:19SPEAKER_32: Um, great food, great wine, great company, of course.
- 3:03:22SPEAKER_31: Yeah, and that will make you, if you buy a ticket to that event, that will make you an American experiment member.
- 3:03:26SPEAKER_31: There are a ton of great benefits to actually becoming a member, like supporting the John Justice show.
- 3:03:31SPEAKER_31: Um, you also get our magazine Thinking Minnesota, and it is a way you can support the conservative movement in Minnesota, especially in this very crucial time.
- 3:03:39SPEAKER_10: Well, thank you guys once again for coming in and uh partaking in another uh Freedom Friday.
- 3:03:44SPEAKER_10: And as we close uh things out, thank you so much for joining the show uh this morning.
- 3:03:48SPEAKER_10: I hope uh I hope you enjoyed it as much as uh we did.
- 3:03:51SPEAKER_10: Uh, it is obviously um a very important day being the uh 25th anniversary of uh 9-11.
- 3:03:57SPEAKER_10: And as we started the show off, uh I will uh close the show and just talk about how we can't ever forget.
- 3:04:04SPEAKER_10: And unfortunately, we uh do live in a society where we have an entire generation and future generations coming up, not understanding the impact of what took place 25 uh years ago with all of those uh lives lost.
- 3:04:17SPEAKER_10: Our prayers continue to go out to everybody that was impacted on that fateful day.
- 3:04:22SPEAKER_10: And uh prayers that uh we wouldn't begin to teach our children the history and the importance of what took place on that day as we move forward and uh how much it matters here in America that we embrace our freedom.
- 3:04:34SPEAKER_10: And that's what was attacked uh on that day 25 uh years ago, and what we tried to uh try to go and demonstrate this morning, having a little bit of fun in the midst of what is ultimately a fairly somber day.
- 3:04:45SPEAKER_10: If you missed any portion of today's show, check out the podcast.
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- 3:04:59SPEAKER_10: The rewatch of the show is available up at Center of the American Experiment, Facebook and YouTube.
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- 3:05:08SPEAKER_10: Make sure you head on over to AmericanExperiment.org and check out all of the latest fantastic articles written by the policy fellows here at Center of the American Experiment.
- 3:05:16SPEAKER_10: Uh Representative Tom Emmer, uh, early uh next week.
- 3:05:19SPEAKER_10: Uh Dan Pilla, our tax guru, will also be joining us probably on Tuesday next week to talk about.
- 3:05:25SPEAKER_10: Um he has uh a couple of latest uh pieces available, including we'll get into the uh potential$5,000 dividend checks from uh from Trump.
- 3:05:33SPEAKER_10: We'll talk artificial intelligence with uh David and uh lighting up other guests for next week's show as well.
- 3:05:38SPEAKER_10: In the meantime, I hope you have a fantastic weekend.
- 3:05:41SPEAKER_10: Thank you again so much for checking out today's show and uh being with us all week long.
- 3:05:45SPEAKER_10: And I will talk to you guys on Monday morning starting at 6 a.m.
- 3:05:48SPEAKER_10: God bless, and I'll talk to you then.
- 3:05:50SPEAKER_10: Bye.