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- 0:00Speaker 1: I want you to think just for a second about
- 0:02the most mundane, bureaucratic documents in your life, right.
- 0:07Speaker 2: Now, right, the stuff you just ignore.
- 0:09Speaker 1: Exactly, the kind of stuff you probably have sitting in
- 0:12a dusty filing cabinet or you shoved into the back
- 0:15of a desk drawer somewhere.
- 0:16Speaker 2: Oh yeah, totally.
- 0:17Speaker 1: I'm talking about like a standard residential lease agreement, or
- 0:20maybe a birth certificate that you haven't laid eyes on
- 0:23in a decade.
- 0:24Speaker 2: Just gathering dust.
- 0:25Speaker 1: Right. We treat these pieces of paper like dead weight,
- 0:30you know, they're just the administrative exhaust of being alive.
- 0:35Speaker 2: That's a good way to put it. I mean, they
- 0:36are completely static. A birth certificate is essentially a receipt
- 0:40of existence.
- 0:41Speaker 1: A receipt of existence.
- 0:42Speaker 2: Yeah, it's printed ones filed away, and it's rarely relevant
- 0:46to your day to day life, unless you're like waiting
- 0:48in line at the DMV.
- 0:50Speaker 1: But what happens when that static piece of paper becomes active?
- 0:53Speaker 2: That is the big question.
- 0:55Speaker 1: What if a simple, mass produced document, filed away and
- 0:58completely forgotten nearly thirty years ago suddenly became the literal
- 1:03key to unraveling one of New York's most haunting, most
- 1:07gruesome mrmisteries.
- 1:09Speaker 2: It forces a total re evaluation of how we view
- 1:12the paper trails we leave behind. I mean, the permanence
- 1:15of bureaucracy often outlasts the impermanence of human memory.
- 1:18Speaker 1: It really does.
- 1:19Speaker 2: And sometimes the most explosive secrets are just hiding in
- 1:22the most ordinary administrative ink.
- 1:25Speaker 1: That intersection of ordinary ink and extraordinary crime is exactly
- 1:29our mission for today's deep dive. We are going to
- 1:31explore the freshly unfolding case as we sit here in
- 1:35mid twenty twenty six of.
- 1:37Speaker 2: Andrew Dyke's A truly wild case is this.
- 1:40Speaker 1: Is a man who has recently arrested for a brutal,
- 1:42deeply unsettling Long Island cold case dating all the way
- 1:45back to nineteen ninety seven.
- 1:47Speaker 2: And to ensure we are navigating this sprawling timeline accurately,
- 1:50you know, we are pulling from a very specific stack
- 1:52of sources today, right, we have to ground this in
- 1:54the facts exactly. Our foundation comes from the official statements
- 1:57released by the Nassau County District Attorney's Office, alongside the
- 2:01actual grand jury.
- 2:02Speaker 1: Indictments, the primary documents.
- 2:04Speaker 2: Yes, and to fill in the historical context and the
- 2:06chronological unspooling of the investigation. We are utilizing contemporary long
- 2:11term reporting from CBS News, the Associated Press, and Newsday.
- 2:16We are analyzing the facts strictly as they exist in
- 2:19the official verified record.
- 2:21Speaker 1: Okay, let's unpack this, because before we can even begin
- 2:25to understand how those mundane documents cracked this case wide open,
- 2:29we have to understand the horrifying puzzle investigators were handed
- 2:34on a stifling summer day back in nineteen ninety seven.
- 2:37Speaker 2: Yeah, the scene was, it was grim.
- 2:39Speaker 1: Set the scene for us, what exactly are detectives walking into.
- 2:42Speaker 2: We need to go back to June twenty eighth, nineteen
- 2:44ninety seven. We are in Nassau County, New York, specifically
- 2:47inside Hempstead Lake State Park. Okay, this is a large,
- 2:50heavily wooded recreational area. So a local resident is out
- 2:54walking when they come across a green, plastic, rubber made
- 2:57container just discarded in the.
- 2:58Speaker 1: Brush, Just a normal plastic bed, right.
- 3:00Speaker 2: Like you'd use for storage in your garage. And in
- 3:03the intense heat of late June, this container is emitting
- 3:06an undeniable biological odor.
- 3:09Speaker 1: Oh ma'am.
- 3:10Speaker 2: Yeah, So when law enforcement arrives and breaches the container.
- 3:14They do not find a complete set of human remains.
- 3:17Speaker 1: What do they find.
- 3:18Speaker 2: They find the torso of a young black woman carefully
- 3:21wrapped in a red towel and a floral pillowcase.
- 3:25Speaker 1: A torso wrapped in a towel. So we are we
- 3:29are missing crucial parts of the anatomy here.
- 3:31Speaker 2: A condition of the remains immediately escalated this from a
- 3:35standard homicide investigation to something far more complex.
- 3:38Speaker 1: Because it's not just a body dumped in the woods.
- 3:41Speaker 2: No, not at all. The perpetrator had removed the victim's head,
- 3:44both of her arms, and both of her legs below
- 3:46the knee. Wow, And to this day, almost thirty years later,
- 3:50those specific body parts have never been recovered.
- 3:53Speaker 1: That is just chilling. When you look at the mechanics
- 3:55of a crime scene like that, it feels like a
- 3:57like a tactical deconstruction.
- 3:58Speaker 2: That's exactly what it was.
- 3:59Speaker 1: This isn't a chaotic heat of the moment flight response
- 4:02where someone just leaves a victim where they fall. What
- 4:05does this level of dismemberment tell investigators about the psychology
- 4:09and the capability of the killer.
- 4:10Speaker 2: Well, the psychology of the disposal is critical Placing remains
- 4:14inside a sealed plastic container and leaving it in a
- 4:17sprawling state park is a highly deliberate, calculated act designed
- 4:22to delay discovery.
- 4:23Speaker 1: Right. The plastic seals and the evidence keeps scavengers.
- 4:26Speaker 2: Away for a bit, exactly. But the dismemberment itself serves
- 4:29an even darker, more functional purpose. It's about the complete
- 4:34eradication of.
- 4:35Speaker 1: Identity, taking away who she was.
- 4:37Speaker 2: By removing the head, you eliminate the possibility of facial recognition,
- 4:41dental record matching or composite sketching.
- 4:44Speaker 1: And all the standard ways you identify.
- 4:46Speaker 2: Someone right, And by removing the hands, you strip away
- 4:48the fingerprints, rendering the standard nineteen ninety seven afis the
- 4:53automated fingerprint identification system completely useless. You are actively turning
- 4:58a human being into a ghost.
- 5:00Speaker 1: It's essentially erasing the hardware that law enforcement relies on.
- 5:03But doing that physically is incredibly difficult, isn't it. Our
- 5:07sources note the police immediately suspected the killer had specific skills.
- 5:11Speaker 2: Oh. Absolutely, The nineteen ninety seven autopsy notes flagged this detail.
- 5:15Immediately Separating human joints and limbs is not like cutting
- 5:19through wood.
- 5:20Speaker 1: It's not just brute force.
- 5:21Speaker 2: No, it is an anatomically complex task. It requires an
- 5:25intimate understanding of bone structure, the dense connective tissue of ligaments,
- 5:30and the mechanics of human joints.
- 5:32Speaker 1: You have to know where things connect.
- 5:33Speaker 2: You have to know exactly where to apply leverage and
- 5:36what tools to use to cleanly separate carlage and bone. Wow,
- 5:40the medical examiner observed a level of precision that strongly
- 5:43suggested the killer possessed significant physical strength, severe premeditation, or
- 5:48most alarmingly, specialized anatomical knowledge.
- 5:51Speaker 1: So this wasn't just some frantic hacking in the dark.
- 5:54Speaker 2: No, it was methodical, it was almost surgical.
- 5:56Speaker 1: But despite this meticulous effort to erase her identity, the
- 6:00killer missed one thing right. There was a single identifying
- 6:04mark left on the torso yes.
- 6:07Speaker 2: On her left breast. The victim had a very distinctive,
- 6:10high quality tattoo. Okay, it was a heart shaped peach
- 6:14with a bite taken out of it and two small
- 6:16drops falling from the core.
- 6:18Speaker 1: And since they had nothing else.
- 6:19Speaker 2: To go on exactly, because law enforcement had absolutely no name,
- 6:23no face, and no fingerprints, that ink became her entire identity.
- 6:27Speaker 1: So she became the text.
- 6:29Speaker 2: Right in official files, she was Jane Doe number three,
- 6:33but to the task forces and the public, she simply
- 6:35became known as Peaches Peaches.
- 6:37Speaker 1: Okay, but our sources mentioned that this tattoo actually generated
- 6:40a significant lead pretty early on. It did. Yeah, they
- 6:43found a tattoo artist up in Connecticut who remembered inking
- 6:47a very similar design on a young black woman.
- 6:50Speaker 2: That's right.
- 6:50Speaker 1: He even remembered her coming in with relatives and complaining
- 6:53about boyfriend troubles.
- 6:55Speaker 2: A massive lead on paper.
- 6:57Speaker 1: Right, So if they had the guy who drew the peach,
- 6:59why did the case go cold? How do you have
- 7:01a witness who actually interacted with the victim but still
- 7:03failed to find out who she is?
- 7:05Speaker 2: It highlights the massive, often frustrating limitations of jurisdictional police
- 7:10work in the late nineteen nineties.
- 7:11Speaker 1: Right before everything was instantly online.
- 7:14Speaker 2: Even if a tattoo artist remembers a face and a
- 7:17conversation about a boyfriend, that artist doesn't log the client's
- 7:21Social Security number or check their government ID.
- 7:24Speaker 1: Right, They just do the work and take the cash exactly.
- 7:27Speaker 2: They aren't keeping adasia on their clients. Furthermore, the databases
- 7:31of the era were heavily.
- 7:32Speaker 1: Siloed, meaning they didn't talk to each other.
- 7:35Speaker 2: Right, the National Crime Information Center or NCIC existed, but
- 7:40cross referencing missing persons reports across state lines without a
- 7:44name or a fingerprint was like trying to find a
- 7:47needle in a haystack while blindfolded.
- 7:49Speaker 1: So, unless someone in her immediate circle walks into a
- 7:52police station in New York and says, hey, my friend
- 7:55with the peach tattoo is missing, the police really have
- 7:57nowhere to go.
- 7:58Speaker 2: Precisely, and investigator There's aggressively checked missing persons reports, but
- 8:02there was no one matching her general description reported missing
- 8:06in a way that connected to the Hempstead Lake discovery.
- 8:08Speaker 1: That is so tragic.
- 8:09Speaker 2: It is if society isn't actively looking for you, and
- 8:13your remains are stripped of all biometric identifiers, you represent
- 8:17an investigative dead end. The trail froze solid, and.
- 8:21Speaker 1: It stayed frozen for fourteen years.
- 8:23Speaker 2: Fourteen years of absolute silence.
- 8:26Speaker 1: The timeline goes completely dark until twenty eleven, when a
- 8:30totally separate, massive investigation inadvertently stumbles onto the second half
- 8:35of this tragedy.
- 8:36Speaker 2: Right, we're shifting focus to April twenty eleven and the
- 8:39landscape of Long Island policing is operating at a fever pitch.
- 8:43Speaker 1: This was all over the news.
- 8:44Speaker 2: Oh, it was a frenzy. Investigators are scouring the dense
- 8:48brush along the Ocean Parkway corridor near Gilgo Beach, searching
- 8:51for the victims of a suspected serial killer.
- 8:53Speaker 1: This was a massive media event. I remember they were
- 8:56practically combing the highway's shoulder foot by foot, and they
- 8:58were finding multiple victi.
- 9:00Speaker 2: Yes, And during that exhaustive search they discover something that
- 9:03profoundly deepens the mystery.
- 9:05Speaker 1: What was it?
- 9:06Speaker 2: In the weeds near the roadway, they find the skeletal
- 9:08remains of a toddler.
- 9:09Speaker 1: Oh my god.
- 9:10Speaker 2: And nearby they find more scattered adult skeletal fragments. When
- 9:15forensic teams extract DNA from these newly discovered adult bones
- 9:19and run them against cold case files, they get.
- 9:21Speaker 1: A hit, a hit from nineteen ninety seven.
- 9:24Speaker 2: Yes, the DNA matches the torso found in the rubber
- 9:27maid container. They belong to peaches.
- 9:29Speaker 1: That is wild And a few years later, the science
- 9:33progresses just enough to give them another devastating piece of
- 9:35information about the toddler. Right.
- 9:37Speaker 2: Yes, in twenty sixteen, advanced DNA profiling confirms that the
- 9:42toddler found in the weeds is the biological daughter of Peaches.
- 9:45Speaker 1: Wow. If we put ourselves in the shoes of the
- 9:48detectives on the ground in twenty nine to eleven, you
- 9:51are hunting a prolific serial killer. You are finding bodies
- 9:54scattered along a very specific geographic.
- 9:56Speaker 2: Corridor right a dumping ground, and.
- 9:58Speaker 1: Then you find a toddler and more or remains right
- 10:00in that exact same area. It feels almost impossible not
- 10:03to assume they're connected to the serial killer you're already hunting.
- 10:06Speaker 2: If we connect this to the bigger picture, we really
- 10:08have to examine the phenomenon of cognitive spatial bias and
- 10:12criminal investigations.
- 10:13Speaker 1: Cognitive spatial bias, Okay, break that.
- 10:15Speaker 2: Down for us specifically, the anchoring heuristic. Human beings are
- 10:20fundamentally patterned seeking creatures.
- 10:22Speaker 1: Right, we want things to make sense.
- 10:24Speaker 2: Exactly when law enforcement allocates massive resources to a specific
- 10:29geographic zone hunting a specific type of predator. Any discovery
- 10:33in that zone is immediately anchored to the primary theory.
- 10:37Speaker 1: Thinks, right there, right.
- 10:39Speaker 2: The proximity of Peaches and her daughter to the Giligo
- 10:42Beach dumb sites entirely derailed the narrative of who they
- 10:45were and who killed them.
- 10:46Speaker 1: It created an investigative gravity. Well, it just warped the
- 10:50trajectory of all the evidence, because if you think she's
- 10:53the victim of a serial killer, you start looking for
- 10:55a stranger.
- 10:56Speaker 2: You look outward, not inward right, You.
- 10:58Speaker 1: Start looking for a boogeyman picking up victims of opportunity,
- 11:00rather than looking at her personal life for finances or
- 11:03her romantic relationships.
- 11:04Speaker 2: And that misdirections siphoned away precious time and resources. The public,
- 11:09the media, and a significant portion of the investigative apparatus
- 11:12assumed Peaches and baby Doe were early victims of the
- 11:15Gilg killer.
- 11:16Speaker 1: It just fit the story too well.
- 11:18Speaker 2: The geographical coincidence was just too strong to ignore.
- 11:21Speaker 1: But our sources are very clear on the current reality.
- 11:25Authorities eventually concluded there was absolutely.
- 11:27Speaker 2: No connection, none whatsoever.
- 11:29Speaker 1: The man eventually charged in the Gilg killings, Rexwarman, has
- 11:33no alleged ties to Peaches, but breaking that spatial bias
- 11:38must have been incredibly difficult. Why did they ever leave
- 11:41the remains of the toddler in the weeds while the
- 11:43mother's torso was hidden in a plastic bin in a
- 11:46different county.
- 11:47Speaker 2: It speaks to the chaotic, longitudinal nature of the disposal,
- 11:51which we'll explore further. But the critical takeaway from twenty
- 11:54eleven is that folding Peaches into the serial killer narrative
- 11:58blinded investigators to the interpersonal nature of the crime.
- 12:02Speaker 1: They were looking for the wrong kind of monster exactly.
- 12:05Speaker 2: It wasn't until authorities conclusively severed this case from the
- 12:08go go investigation that the real breakthrough could happen, And
- 12:11that breakthrough wasn't driven by geographical searches.
- 12:14Speaker 1: What drove it then?
- 12:15Speaker 2: It was driven by a revolution in molecular biology.
- 12:17Speaker 1: Which brings us to a press conference in April twenty
- 12:21twenty five, after twenty eight years of anonymity, Nassau County
- 12:25officials and the FBI standed a podium and announced names.
- 12:29Peaches was Tanya Denise Jackson, born in October nineteen seventy
- 12:33in Alabama, and the toddler was her daughter, Tatiana Marie Diykes,
- 12:37born in March nineteen ninety five in Texas.
- 12:40Speaker 2: Just hearing their names is powerful, it really is.
- 12:43Speaker 1: But how do you go from a completely anonymous DNA
- 12:46sample to a full name and birth date nearly three
- 12:50decades later.
- 12:51Speaker 2: The mechanism is forensic genetic genealogy, and understanding how it
- 12:55works is vital because it represents a total paradigm shift
- 13:00in how we view anonymity.
- 13:01Speaker 1: It really changes everything.
- 13:02Speaker 2: For decades, forensic DNA analysis was primarily comparative. If you
- 13:06have a suspect, you take a buckle swab from their cheek,
- 13:09you extract the DNA, and you look for a direct
- 13:12match against biological evidence left at a crime scene.
- 13:14Speaker 1: Right, It's like matching a fingerprint.
- 13:16Speaker 2: It's essentially a molecular fingerprint. But if your suspect isn't
- 13:19in a database, that fingerprint is completely useless.
- 13:22Speaker 1: Right. The traditional database only tells you who someone is
- 13:25if they've already been caught for something else and put
- 13:27into this system.
- 13:28Speaker 2: Genetic genealogy changes the math entirely. Instead of looking for
- 13:31a direct match, scientists analyze the unknown DNA profile to
- 13:36identify single nucleotide polymorphisms or SNPs.
- 13:40Speaker 1: SNPs.
- 13:41Speaker 2: These are tiny, specific variations in our genetic code. By
- 13:45looking at hundreds of thousands of these SNPs, they can
- 13:48upload the profile to public ancestry databases.
- 13:51Speaker 1: Like the ones people use to find their family.
- 13:53Speaker 2: History, exactly places where ordinary people have voluntarily submitted their
- 13:57DNA to learn about their heritage.
- 13:59Speaker 1: So they are looking looking for Tanya in the database.
- 14:01They're looking for Tanya's third cousin who decided they wanted
- 14:05to know where their ancestors came from.
- 14:07Speaker 2: Exactly the concepts, though the execution is painstakingly complex. The
- 14:11database measures the shared DNA between the unknown profile and
- 14:14the public users using a unit called centa Morgans CeNSE
- 14:17of Morgans right. The higher the shaded cent of Morgans,
- 14:20the closer the relation. Once genetic genealogists find a web
- 14:23of distant cousins, they utilize public records, census data, marriage licenses,
- 14:28obituaries to manually build massive family trees.
- 14:31Speaker 1: It sounds like it takes forever.
- 14:32Speaker 2: It is incredibly tedious. They work backward generation by generation
- 14:36until the branches intersect. Through this triangulation, they isolate the
- 14:41specific branch of the family tree where Tanya Jackson had
- 14:45to exist.
- 14:45Speaker 1: It's astonishing, it really is. But the moment they attached
- 14:48and name to Tanya, it also answered the agonizing question
- 14:51of why no one was looking for her.
- 14:54Speaker 2: Yes, the estrangement right.
- 14:56Speaker 1: Our sources indicate that Tanya grew up in Mobile, Alabama,
- 15:00but she was largely as strange from her family. She
- 15:02was a Gulf War veteran who served in the army,
- 15:05and by nineteen ninety seven she was a single mother
- 15:07living in Brooklyn.
- 15:09Speaker 2: Her background illustrates the profound vulnerability of estrangement. Tanya was
- 15:13out of the military structure, geographically isolated from her hometown,
- 15:17and navigating the complexities of single motherhood in a massive city.
- 15:21Speaker 1: She was really on her own completely.
- 15:23Speaker 2: When a person in that specific set of circumstances vanishes,
- 15:26there isn't necessarily a local support system ready to sound
- 15:29the alarm. The tragedy here is not just the murder.
- 15:32It is the societal failure that allows a veteran and
- 15:35her child to disappear without triggering a systemic response.
- 15:39Speaker 1: Yeah, that is heavy, But here's where it gets really interesting.
- 15:42Because as miraculous as the genetic genealogy was in giving
- 15:46Tanya and Tatiana their names back, identifying them was only
- 15:49the prerequisite for solving the murder.
- 15:51Speaker 2: It was just the starting line, the ultimate.
- 15:54Speaker 1: Pivot point in this entire thirty year saga. Wasn't the
- 15:57billion dollar genomic sequencing. It was a Texas birth certificate.
- 16:01Speaker 2: What's fascinating here is the stark contrast and the tools
- 16:05used to dismantle this mystery.
- 16:07Speaker 1: He's crazy.
- 16:08Speaker 2: On one hand, you have the cutting edge computational wizardry
- 16:11of genetic genealogy, tracing microscopic cellular variations across multiple generations.
- 16:17It is a triumph of modern science. On the other hand,
- 16:20you have a piece of paper that costs a few
- 16:21dollars to print at a county cruk's office.
- 16:23Speaker 1: When investigators pulled Takiana's birth certificate from a hospital in
- 16:27San Antonio, Texas, dated March nineteen ninety five, it listed
- 16:31Tanya Denise Jackson as the mother, but crucially, it listed
- 16:35a man named Andrew Dykes as the father.
- 16:38Speaker 2: The moment investigators read that second name on the birth certificate,
- 16:41the entire serial killer theory evaporated.
- 16:43Speaker 1: Oof go on.
- 16:45Speaker 2: A serial killer targets victims of opportunity, often strangers, but
- 16:49a shared child permanently tethered Tanya to a specific individual.
- 16:53Speaker 1: It connected them forever.
- 16:55Speaker 2: The suspect pool instantly shrank from an unknown fandom haunting
- 16:58a highway to a very real documented man.
- 17:02Speaker 1: With the names in hand, law enforcement could finally reconstruct
- 17:05Tanya's life. They could trace her movements, and more importantly,
- 17:09they could map out exactly how her timeline intersected with
- 17:13Andrew Diykes. Let's look at the trajectory of their relationship,
- 17:16starting in the military.
- 17:18Speaker 2: The intersecting timelines paint a very clear, highly concerning picture.
- 17:22Let's look at Tanya's military record first. Okay, she served
- 17:25in the United States Army from roughly nineteen ninety three
- 17:27to nineteen ninety five. During a significant portion of that time,
- 17:31she was stationed at Fort sam Houston in San Antonio, Texas,
- 17:34where she worked in a medical capacity.
- 17:36Speaker 1: And Fort sam Houston is exactly where she crosses paths
- 17:38with Andrew Diykes.
- 17:39Speaker 2: Yes, it is.
- 17:40Speaker 1: Let's examine his resume because this is the detail that
- 17:43completely recontextualizes the nineteen ninety seven autopsy report.
- 17:47Speaker 2: Andrew Dikes had a deeply entrenched twenty year career in
- 17:50the Army, spanning from nineteen eighty all the way to
- 17:53two thousand and one.
- 17:54Speaker 1: A lifer basically, yeah.
- 17:56Speaker 2: His occupational specialty was as an operating room technician, but
- 18:00his role went beyond just assisting in surgeries. When he
- 18:03was stationed with Tanya in Texas, he was a military instructor.
- 18:07Speaker 1: Okay, an instructor.
- 18:08Speaker 2: What was he teaching and what was his specific curriculum?
- 18:11He taught anatomy and physiology.
- 18:13Speaker 1: Wow, he wasn't just familiar with the human body. He
- 18:16literally wrote the lesson plans on how it functions and
- 18:19how it is constructed.
- 18:20Speaker 2: The sources cite his military performance reviews, which specifically highlighted
- 18:25his exceptional proficiency in teaching the skeletal system, the muscular system,
- 18:29the digestive tract, and the circulatory system.
- 18:32Speaker 1: Put yourself in the room with those cold case detectives
- 18:35in twenty twenty five. You were holding an autopsy report
- 18:38from nineteen ninety seven that details of precise, methodical dismemberment,
- 18:42someone who knew exactly how to navigate joints, ligaments, and
- 18:45bone to cleanly dismantle a human.
- 18:47Speaker 2: Being, someone with training.
- 18:49Speaker 1: And then you pull the military personnel file of the
- 18:52victim's baby's father and his official job title is instructor
- 18:57in the skeletal and muscular systems. It gives you that
- 19:00is the moment that theoretical becomes tangible, the specialized anatomical
- 19:04knowledge wasn't a guess anymore, it was a documented occupational skill.
- 19:08Speaker 2: It connects the physical reality of the crime scene directly
- 19:12to the vocational expertise of the suspect. But canability does
- 19:16not equal motive right.
- 19:17Speaker 1: Just because he could do it doesn't mean he did.
- 19:20Speaker 2: Investigators had to understand the dynamic of their relationship to
- 19:23understand why a crime of this magnitude would occur. According
- 19:26to prosecutors, when Dikes and Tanya began their affair at
- 19:29Fort sam Houston, Diykes was already married and had two
- 19:32children of his own.
- 19:33Speaker 1: This introduces a massive underlying tension. Think about the human
- 19:37element here, the profound power imbalance. On March seventeenth, nineteen
- 19:41ninety five, Tanya gives birth to Tatiana. Shortly after, the
- 19:45military transfers Dikes from Texas up to Fort Hamilton in Brooklyn,
- 19:48New York. Tanya, who is now discharged from the military,
- 19:52packs up her newborn daughter and follows him across the
- 19:54country to New York.
- 19:56Speaker 2: She relocates to the Sunset Park neighborhood of Brooklyn, which
- 19:59is geogo graphically very close to Fort Hamilton. She secures
- 20:03employment in a doctor's office, trying to build a foundation for.
- 20:06Speaker 1: Her and her child, trying to make a life.
- 20:08Speaker 2: But the critical structural detail of her life in New
- 20:11York was that Andrew Dikes held the lease on her apartment.
- 20:15Speaker 1: That detail about the lease is everything, it really is.
- 20:18It illustrates total dependence and total access. She is isolated,
- 20:23estranged from her Alabama relatives, raising a child in a
- 20:26new city, and living in an apartment legally controlled by
- 20:30a married man who has a vested interest in keeping
- 20:32her a secret from his official family.
- 20:35Speaker 2: Prosecutors allege that the motive was rooted in this exact friction.
- 20:39Tanya reportedly wanted a legitimate future. She wanted acknowledgment and
- 20:43stability for herself and their daughter.
- 20:45Speaker 1: Which is completely understandable, of course.
- 20:47Speaker 2: But for Dikes, acknowledging Tanya and Tatiana meant the potential
- 20:51destruction of his existing marriage, his family structure, and his
- 20:55established military career. They represented an existential threat to the
- 20:59life he had buien.
- 21:00Speaker 1: When you combine the motive to eliminate a threat to
- 21:03his family life, the unfettered physical access granted by holding
- 21:07the apartment lease, and the highly specialized surgical skills required
- 21:11to execute the dismemberment, investigators finally had a comprehensive narrative
- 21:15of what likely happened in the weeks leading up to
- 21:18June nineteen ninety seven.
- 21:19Speaker 2: They had a powerful, circumstantial case. They had the who,
- 21:23the why, and the theoretical how.
- 21:25Speaker 1: But circumstantial isn't enough, not at all.
- 21:27Speaker 2: In the American legal system, a compelling narrative built on
- 21:30twenty eight year old circumstantial connections is not enough to
- 21:33secure a murder indictment.
- 21:35Speaker 1: You need hard proof.
- 21:36Speaker 2: As the calendar turned to mid twenty twenty five, investigators
- 21:40knew who they were looking for. Andrew Diykes was now
- 21:43sixty six years old, reportedly a retired state trooper living
- 21:47quietly in the Ruskin area of Florida, just south of Tampa.
- 21:51Speaker 1: How did they approach him? Did they just knock on
- 21:52his door and ask about nineteen ninety seven?
- 21:54Speaker 2: They did initiate contact. Once the victims were definitively identified,
- 21:58investigators traveled to Florida and interviewed Dykes.
- 22:01Speaker 1: And what did he say?
- 22:02Speaker 2: During this interaction he acknowledged the undeniable. He admitted he
- 22:06was Tatiana's father, which the birth certificate proved anyway, However,
- 22:10he vehemently denied any involvement in their disappearances or murders.
- 22:14Speaker 1: He admits to the paternity, but desies the crime. Our
- 22:18sources note that the District attorney's office felt his account
- 22:21of his interactions with Tanya in nineteen ninety seven didn't
- 22:25add up. It was suspicious, yeah, but suspicion isn't probable cause.
- 22:29If he isn't cooperating and they don't have enough to
- 22:31arrest him, they can't compel him to provide a DNA sample, right,
- 22:35They can't just force the swab.
- 22:37Speaker 2: Exactly the legal hurdle they faced. The Fourth Amendment protects
- 22:40citizens from unreasonable searches and seizures, and compelling a biological
- 22:44sample requires a warrant based on probable cause.
- 22:47Speaker 1: They needed more than just a good theory.
- 22:49Speaker 2: Investigators had a theory, but they needed physical evidence directly
- 22:53tying his biology to the crime scene. To bridge that gap.
- 22:56Since they couldn't compel a sample, they had to collect
- 22:59one surreptitition. They had to play a waiting game.
- 23:02Speaker 1: Which launches a massive surveillance operation. In October twenty twenty four,
- 23:07law enforcement sets up on a sixty six year old
- 23:10retiree in Florida just watching him live his day to
- 23:13day life. It requires incredible patience.
- 23:16Speaker 2: Days and days of just watching.
- 23:18Speaker 1: They are essentially waiting for him to make one tiny,
- 23:20mundane biological mistake.
- 23:22Speaker 2: They are waiting for the moment he legally abandons his DNA.
- 23:26Speaker 1: And that moment finally happens in the most American way possible,
- 23:30a trip to a fast food joint.
- 23:31Speaker 2: It really is.
- 23:32Speaker 1: Surveillance units followed Dikes to a Charlie's Cheese Steaks restaurant
- 23:35in Tampa. He orders a drink, consumes it, and then
- 23:39discards the plastic cup, the lid, and the straw into
- 23:42a public trash receptacle outside.
- 23:44Speaker 2: The restaurant, And as soon as he vacates the area,
- 23:46plain clothes investigators secure the trash can. They extract that
- 23:50specific cup and straw, bag it into evidence and immediately
- 23:53transfer it to a forensic laboratory.
- 23:55Speaker 1: The'salp of the mechanics of this, because it's fascinating. He
- 23:58took a sip of drink. What does a laboratory turned
- 24:01microscopic saliva on a piece of plastic into a definitive profile.
- 24:05Speaker 2: The technique relies on a process called PCR or polymeris.
- 24:09Speaker 1: Chain reaction polymerase chain reaction.
- 24:11Speaker 2: Okay, even a casual sip leaves behind epithelial cells from
- 24:15the inside of the cheek and mouth. Forensics teams extract
- 24:19the DNA from those thrugh cells. Because the initial sample
- 24:22is so small, PCR acts as a molecular photocopier.
- 24:26Speaker 1: Photocopier for DNA, that's a great analogy.
- 24:29Speaker 2: It uses thermal cycling, heating and cooling the sample with
- 24:32specific enzymes to duplicate the DNA millions of times over
- 24:36until there is a large enough sample to run a
- 24:38full genetic profile.
- 24:40Speaker 1: Once they amplify the DNA from the Florida straw, they
- 24:42have to compare it against the nineteen ninety seven evidence.
- 24:45What exactly were they comparing it to.
- 24:47Speaker 2: They compared the amplified profile from the fast food straw
- 24:50to a biological sample that had been meticulously preserved in
- 24:53a cold storage evidence locker since nineteen ninety seven.
- 24:56Speaker 1: Just waiting there.
- 24:57Speaker 2: Specifically, it was a vaginal swab taken from Tanya Jackson
- 25:00during the original autopsy conducted by the Nassau County Medical Examiner.
- 25:04Speaker 1: The science yields a definitive result. The profile extracted from
- 25:08the twenty twenty four straw matched the male DNA found
- 25:11on the nineteen ninety seven swab at a statistical threshold
- 25:15that scientists reported as being millions of times more likely
- 25:18to belong to Andrew Dyke's than to any unrelated individual
- 25:22in the population.
- 25:23Speaker 2: This raises an important question regarding the legal boundaries of
- 25:26modern surveillance, which is vital to understand for cases like this.
- 25:30Let's hear it, the tactic of surreptitious DNA collection from
- 25:33discarded trash is entirely legal under current United States jurisprudence.
- 25:39Speaker 1: Some people might find that shocking.
- 25:40Speaker 2: They do, but the legal framework, heavily influenced by Supreme
- 25:44Court cases regarding garbage collection, relies on the doctrine of
- 25:47abandoned property.
- 25:48Speaker 1: Abandoned property.
- 25:49Speaker 2: The moment you voluntarily deposit an item into a public
- 25:52trash receptacle, you forfeit any reasonable expectation of privacy over
- 25:55that item, including the biological material attached to it.
- 25:59Speaker 1: The irony of his cap sure is just staggering. Here
- 26:01is a man with documented expert level anatomical knowledge, a
- 26:05literal expert right he allegedly utilized that specialized training to
- 26:10execute a methodical dismemberment, successfully erasing a woman's identity and
- 26:14hiding his crime for nearly three decades. He outsmarted the
- 26:17conventional justice system.
- 26:18Speaker 2: For almost thirty years.
- 26:20Speaker 1: And in the end he is undone by a completely
- 26:22casual Tuesday afternoon trip to a cheese steak restaurant and
- 26:26a piece of disposable plastic.
- 26:28Speaker 2: It demonstrates that in the modern era, physical evasion is
- 26:31entirely separate from biological evasion.
- 26:33Speaker 1: You can't outrun your own cells.
- 26:35Speaker 2: You can move states, change careers, and age thirty years,
- 26:39but you cannot stop shedding your biology. You leave your
- 26:43genetic footprint on coffee cups, on napkins, on silverware. You
- 26:47are constantly broadcasting your identity to anyone with the technology
- 26:51to read it.
- 26:52Speaker 1: That DNA match from the straw was the final structural
- 26:55pillar the prosecution needed. It provided the indisputable probable cause
- 26:59to secure a grand jury indictment and an arrest.
- 27:02Speaker 2: Warrant, the final piece of the puzzle.
- 27:03Speaker 1: In December twenty twenty five, a multi agency team including
- 27:07the Hillsborough County Sheriff's Office, descends on his home in Ruskin, Florida,
- 27:11and takes him into custody.
- 27:12Speaker 2: Following his arrest, he was held in Florida pending extradition proceedings,
- 27:17and he was subsequently flown back to New York. On
- 27:20December eighteenth, twenty twenty five, Andrew Dikes stood before a
- 27:24judge in Nassau County and was formally arraigned on an
- 27:27indictment charging him with second degree murder.
- 27:30Speaker 1: He pleaded not guilty to the charge, and the judge
- 27:33ordered him remanded without bail. If convicted, he faces a
- 27:37sentence of twenty five years to life in a New
- 27:39York state prison.
- 27:40Speaker 2: However, there is a very critical legal caveat regarding this
- 27:44indictment and we must be extremely precise about the scope
- 27:47of the charges based on the official sources.
- 27:49Speaker 1: Right, this is important.
- 27:50Speaker 2: Andrew Diykes has been charged only with the second degree
- 27:53murder of Tanya Denise Jackson. As of today, he has
- 27:56not been charged with the murder of his two year
- 27:58old daughter, Tatiana.
- 28:00Speaker 1: So what does this all mean? How does the district
- 28:02attorney stand up in court with a mountain of evidence
- 28:05suggesting a man murdered the mother, but stop short of
- 28:08charging him for the toddler found nearby?
- 28:10Speaker 2: It seems contradictory.
- 28:11Speaker 1: It feels especially jarring when you listen to the press conferences.
- 28:15Nassau County Police Commissioner Patrick Ryder stood at a podium
- 28:18and stated, with palpable anger, he threw a baby out
- 28:22like the trash into the weeds.
- 28:24Speaker 2: Yeah, those were his exact words.
- 28:26Speaker 1: Law enforcement clearly believes he is responsible for both deaths.
- 28:30Why is the indictment only for one?
- 28:32Speaker 2: This discrepancy goes straight to the heart of the brutal
- 28:35practical realities involved in prosecuting historical cold cases. The justice
- 28:40system does not operate on police theory or even moral certainty.
- 28:43Speaker 1: That operates on proof.
- 28:45Speaker 2: It operates on the strict requirement of proof beyond a
- 28:48reasonable doubt, and in a thirty year old case, time
- 28:51itself is the greatest enemy of physical evidence. We have
- 28:54to look at how and where the victims were found.
- 28:57Speaker 1: Let's break that down. Tanya's remains were fed in nineteen
- 29:00ninety seven, relatively shortly after the murder, and while it
- 29:04was a horrific scene, the remains were contained within a plastic,
- 29:07rubber made bin which provided a barrier against the elements.
- 29:11Speaker 2: Correct That containment preserved the integrity of the biological evidence,
- 29:16allowing the medical examiner to recover the vaginal swap that
- 29:19ultimately matched the DNA.
- 29:20Speaker 1: On the straw, but Tatiana was different.
- 29:23Speaker 2: Tatiana's remains, conversely, were not discovered until twenty eleven. Her
- 29:27skeletal remains were left completely exposed to the harsh environmental
- 29:31conditions of the coastal weeds along Ocean Parkway for fourteen years.
- 29:35Speaker 1: We're talking about direct exposure to the elements in a
- 29:37barrier island, salt air, fluctuating humidity, direct ultraviolet radiation from
- 29:43the sun, freezing winters, and scavenging animals. What does that
- 29:47specific environment do to bone on a molecular level over
- 29:51fourteen years.
- 29:52Speaker 2: It causes catastrophic degradation. Bone is a composite material made
- 29:56of a protein matrix largely collagen, hardened by a mineral
- 29:59called calcium phosphate. When exposed to the elements, especially acidic
- 30:03soil and salt water, that mineral structure begins to break down. Ultraviolet,
- 30:07light and temperature fluctuations physically shear the DNA strands contained
- 30:11within the bone cells.
- 30:12Speaker 1: It just rips the DNA apart.
- 30:14Speaker 2: By the time investigators recovered the Toddlers remains. In twenty eleven,
- 30:18the biological material necessary to extract a pristine, comparable DNA profile,
- 30:24one that could definitively tie a suspect's biology to those
- 30:27specific bones, was severely compromised.
- 30:30Speaker 1: So the prosecutors are essentially playing it safe. They are
- 30:33moving forward with the case where the chain of evidence
- 30:37and the biological preservation is strongest.
- 30:39Speaker 2: Exactly. Prosecutors have publicly acknowledged that their evidentiary foundation is
- 30:44significantly more robust in Tanya's case. They are continuing to
- 30:47collaborate with authorities in Suffolk County where the toddler was found,
- 30:52and as of mid twenty twenty six, the presiding judge
- 30:54has ordered additional advanced DNA testing on the degraded remains.
- 30:58Speaker 1: So it's still ongoing.
- 31:00Speaker 2: But right now we are witnessing the profound tension between
- 31:03what the police fundamentally believe happened and what the district
- 31:06attorney feels they can legally prove to a jury today,
- 31:09and the defense.
- 31:09Speaker 1: Is certainly not going to make it easy for them.
- 31:11We have to examine how Dykes is pushing back On
- 31:14a personal level. His family has expressed absolute.
- 31:17Speaker 2: Shock, total disbelief.
- 31:18Speaker 1: Our sources quote one of his sons, describing him as
- 31:20a teddy bear, stating that these grotesque, violent allegations are
- 31:25completely irreconcilable with the father he grew up with.
- 31:27Speaker 2: And from a tactical legal standpoint, his defense attorney has
- 31:30already laid the groundwork for how they plan to dismantle
- 31:34the prosecution's narrative. They are going to mount a vigorous
- 31:38challenge against the application of the new DNA.
- 31:40Speaker 1: Technology, attack the science.
- 31:42Speaker 2: A cornerstone of their defense will be attacking the chain
- 31:45of custody.
- 31:46Speaker 1: They're going to ask the jury how securely was that
- 31:49nineteen ninety seven vaginal swab stored for twenty eight years?
- 31:54How many times was it transferred? Who had access to
- 31:57the freezer.
- 31:57Speaker 2: Furthermore, they will challenge the reliability of the peer. You
- 32:00see our amplification itself. Comparing decades old, potentially degraded biological
- 32:05matter against a microscopic sample of saliva pulled from a
- 32:08fast food trash can in twenty twenty four leaves room
- 32:12for a defense attorney to argue the possibility of contamination
- 32:15or methodological error.
- 32:16Speaker 1: They don't have a proof he's innocent. They just need
- 32:18to prove their's doubt.
- 32:19Speaker 2: They will attempt to introduce reasonable doubt into the science itself.
- 32:22Speaker 1: This is not going to be a simple, open and
- 32:24shut trial. We're watching the arduous process of legal discovery
- 32:28unfold in real time as we sit here in twenty
- 32:31twenty six. Going to be long road, but honestly, taking
- 32:34a step back, the mere fact that this case is
- 32:35inside a courtroom, that there is an active docket number
- 32:38attached to it is a monumental testament to the evolution
- 32:42of forensic science and the stubborn perseverance of investigators who
- 32:45refuse to let Jane Doe number three fade away.
- 32:48Speaker 2: It is a remarkable narrative arc. When you synthesize the
- 32:52entire journey, you see how a case that was fundamentally
- 32:55dead on arrival in nineteen ninety seven, a nameless torsos,
- 33:00stripped of all traditional identifiers, managed to survive.
- 33:03Speaker 1: It's incredible to survive at all.
- 33:04Speaker 2: It survived the initial lack of databases. It survived being
- 33:08falsely swallowed up by the panic and the intense spatial
- 33:11bias of the Gilgo Beach serial killer investigation, which easily
- 33:14could have relegated it to a footnote in another men's story.
- 33:18Speaker 1: And it was finally dragged into the light by the
- 33:20most unexpected pairing of investigative tools. It took the astonishing
- 33:24generational mapping of forensic genetic genealogy just to figure out
- 33:28what names to type into a search bar, just to
- 33:30get a name. But once they had the names, the
- 33:33entire thirty year mystery was solved by tracing the ink
- 33:36on a standard Texas birth certificate and extracting invisible cells
- 33:40from a discarded cheese bake straw.
- 33:42Speaker 2: It brings us right back to our overarching theme today,
- 33:45the quiet, undeniable power of our bureaucratic and biological footprints.
- 33:50A birth certificate is designed to be a joyous piece
- 33:53of administrative paperwork. It exists to celebrate and legally codify
- 33:57the start of a new life. Yeah, in this devastating case,
- 34:01that same piece of paper waited silently in an archive
- 34:04for three decades, surviving to tell the story of how
- 34:07that child's life and her mother's life violently ended. The
- 34:11paper outlasted the very people whose names were printed on it.
- 34:14Speaker 1: It is a profound, sobering reality, and as a vital
- 34:18reminder to you listening, the legal process is ongoing. Andrew
- 34:21Dykes maintains his innocence, he is formally pleaded not guilty
- 34:24to all charges, and the American justice system, through a
- 34:27jury of his peers, will have the final authoritative say
- 34:30on the evidence presented.
- 34:31Speaker 2: Exactly, we have to respect the process.
- 34:33Speaker 1: Our role today is simply to guide you through the astonishing,
- 34:37verified facts of how the investigation reached this unprecedented point, and.
- 34:41Speaker 2: The mechanics of that investigation alone are enough to permanently
- 34:45alter how you perceive privacy evidence and the long memory
- 34:49of the law.
- 34:50Speaker 1: They absolutely are, And I want to leave you with
- 34:52one last thing to mull over as we wrap up
- 34:54today's deep dive. Think back to that dusty filing cabinet
- 34:57we talked about at the very beginning, the one with.
- 34:59Speaker 2: The least the birth certificate.
- 35:01Speaker 1: If a thirty year old, expertly concealed, meticulously executed crime
- 35:05can be completely dismantled by a piece of paper sitting
- 35:08in a municipal archive and a piece of plastic casually
- 35:11tossed into a public trash can.
- 35:13Speaker 2: It makes you wonder, in an age.
- 35:14Speaker 1: Where our genetic footprints are literally inescapable and constantly cataloged,
- 35:19are there truly any cold cases? Left, Or are they
- 35:22all just waiting in a dusty drawer somewhere, biting their time,
- 35:26waiting for the technology to finally catch up to the truth.