Latest / Elon Musk Podcast / ChatGPT hits $100M in ad revenue
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- 0:00Open AI has hit $100 million in annualized ad revenue with their
- 0:05ChatGPT pilot. Yeah.
- 0:07And I mean, the velocity of that number is genuinely difficult to
- 0:10process, especially when you add the context that this enormous
- 0:15revenue figure is being generated by only a really,
- 0:18really tiny fraction of their total user base, right?
- 0:21Which makes the picture incredibly intense.
- 0:23Exactly. And they're already actively
- 0:25working with over 600 advertisers.
- 0:28We are looking directly at how a platform built entirely to
- 0:31answer questions balances serving the person asking the
- 0:34prompt with, you know, the demands of the advertiser paying
- 0:37for space on the screen. So when the tool you rely on to
- 0:40research and make decisions gets a second customer who pays for
- 0:43placement, how does that alter the relationship you have with
- 0:47the answers it gives you? To understand the shifting
- 0:49dynamics of that relationship, we really have to look closely
- 0:52at the exact mechanics of this pilot program.
- 0:54Yeah, and what is technically happening behind the screen?
- 0:56Right, because the facts of how this pilot operates are highly
- 1:00specific. The ads themselves are placed at
- 1:02the very bottom of the answers provided by the artificial
- 1:05intelligence. Yes, and they're clearly labeled
- 1:08so you know an advertisement is actually present.
- 1:10And the company insists that these ad placements do not
- 1:13influence the actual is generated by the model.
- 1:16Right. And right now, this specific
- 1:19pilot program only targets their free users and the ChatGPT Go
- 1:23subscribers. It definitely helps to
- 1:25understand exactly how they keep the generated answer in the
- 1:27advertisement separated. It does so when you type a query
- 1:31into the interface, the underlying language model starts
- 1:34calculating the most probable next words to answer your
- 1:37prompt. It streams that text to your
- 1:40screen token by token, and that entire process happens in one
- 1:45specific part of their system. OK, completely independent of
- 1:47that, the visual interface you are looking at pings a separate
- 1:51ad server and requests A relevant banner based on the
- 1:54broad topic of your conversation.
- 1:55Oh, I see. The advertisement is simply
- 1:58pasted at the bottom of your screen by the user interface.
- 2:00So the neural network itself never saw the ad.
- 2:03Exactly. It did not factor the sponsor
- 2:06into its calculations at all. The separation is entirely at
- 2:09the visual layer, rather than, you know, the cognitive layer of
- 2:12the artificial intelligence. And the eligibility breakdown
- 2:15for those user tiers reveals exactly how cautious they are
- 2:19being with the rollout. Yeah, they are being very
- 2:21careful. Roughly 85% of those free and Go
- 2:25users in the US are eligible to see the ads.
- 2:28Because they fit the precise demographic and usage criteria
- 2:32for the pilot. Right, but fewer than 20% are
- 2:34actually shown an ad on a daily basis.
- 2:36Let me back up. Yeah.
- 2:38Are you saying that almost everyone in those specific tiers
- 2:40is sitting in the pool of potential AD recipients?
- 2:44Yeah, but only very small sliver of them actually encounters the
- 2:47ads on any given day. Exactly.
- 2:49Almost the entire US free and go user base is in the hopper, but
- 2:53the daily delivery is kept highly restricted.
- 2:56That restriction on delivery is a classic method for testing the
- 2:59waters without alienating the user base.
- 3:02They are basically running a highly controlled experiment to
- 3:05see if the presence of ads causes users to close the app or
- 3:08ask fewer questions or switch to a competitor.
- 3:11And generating a massive annualized figure like $100
- 3:15million from such a limited daily exposure rate creates a
- 3:19highly realistic path to their stated goal of generating at
- 3:24least $17 billion from consumers using the platform.
- 3:28Oh. Absolutely.
- 3:29When you realize the revenue potential sitting inside just a
- 3:3220% daily exposure rate, pulling in $100 million annualized from
- 3:37a fraction of a fraction of your traffic, that $17 billion target
- 3:42suddenly stops looking like a distant fantasy.
- 3:44The math really crystallizes when you look at an observation
- 3:47from commentator Peter Gosteff. Oh yeah, his point was
- 3:49fascinating. He.
- 3:50Pointed out that you need a log scale to even look at the
- 3:53numbers sensibly. Right, because the difference in
- 3:55size is just too extreme for a normal chart.
- 3:57Exactly. Think about trying to graph the
- 3:59height of a blade of grass next to the height of Mount Everest
- 4:02on a standard piece of paper. The grass is completely
- 4:05invisible. Yeah, so a log scale changes the
- 4:08rules of the graph so that every step up the side multiplies the
- 4:11value by 10. Allowing you to fit extremely
- 4:14disparate numbers onto the same page.
- 4:16Right. You only use a log scale when
- 4:18something is growing so aggressively that a normal chart
- 4:21physically breaks. And this pilot program has
- 4:24reached a 6th of the New York Times revenue in almost no time
- 4:28at all. Think about that.
- 4:29You have an established media entity with a century of
- 4:32history, and a tiny pilot program spun up by a technology
- 4:36company is already pulling in a sixth of their revenue.
- 4:39Generating that much cash entirely through a pilot program
- 4:42that most users rarely even see completely changes how we
- 4:46calculate the financial ceiling of these platforms.
- 4:48Shifting focus directly to the perspective of the users and the
- 4:51builders relying on this technology technology, the
- 4:54gravity of that ad revenue becomes impossible to ignore.
- 4:57It really does, observer Leonardo Jacques prop.
- 5:00A really interesting point regarding this exact dynamic.
- 5:03Right about the tool people use for drafting and product
- 5:06decisions. Exactly.
- 5:07That tool now has a paying customer sitting right there at
- 5:11the exact moment a decision is being made.
- 5:14You are typing a highly specific query about a marketing strategy
- 5:18or a software choice for your business.
- 5:21And an advertiser has purchased the right to be visually present
- 5:25at the exact second you hit enter.
- 5:27It fundamentally changes the psychology of the interaction.
- 5:30It really does. Imagine you have a highly
- 5:32trusted librarian for years. You ask her for book
- 5:36recommendations on gardening and she consistently hands you the
- 5:40absolute best, most objective materials available.
- 5:43Her only goal is to help you learn about gardening, right?
- 5:46Then one day you ask for a recommendation.
- 5:49She hands you a book, and a glossy flyer for a major
- 5:52hardware store falls out of the pages.
- 5:54Wow. She assures you that she still
- 5:56picked the best book and the flyer has nothing to do with her
- 5:59recommendation. Even if she is telling the
- 6:01complete truth, your brain immediately starts calculating
- 6:04the incentives. You start wondering if the
- 6:05hardware store is paying her. And if that payment will
- 6:08eventually influence which books she keeps on the shelf it.
- 6:12Perfectly mirrors the historical pattern of Internet platforms.
- 6:15Yeah, search engines and social feeds all started neutral,
- 6:18chronological or organic. They built immense trust by
- 6:22giving you exactly what you asked for in the exact order it
- 6:26appeared, with 0 interference. The pure utility was the entire
- 6:30draw. But once the ad business gets
- 6:32big enough to matter, the product quietly reorganizes
- 6:36around it. $100 million creates its own financial gravity.
- 6:40The engineering resources, the user interface updates and the
- 6:43strategic goals of the company slowly begin to align with the
- 6:47needs of the people paying the largest bills.
- 6:49The early days of web search felt like pure magic.
- 6:52You typed a phrase and the algorithm objectively ranked the
- 6:56most relevant information on the entire Internet.
- 6:58Then came the lightly shaded boxes at the top of the results.
- 7:01Yeah, then the shopping carousels.
- 7:03Eventually, the actual organic results were pushed entirely
- 7:07below the fold and the entire top half of your screen became
- 7:10purchased real estate. The primary function of the tool
- 7:13shifted from organizing the world's information to capturing
- 7:17intent and selling it to the highest bidder.
- 7:19The AI you use is still good, but it is no longer just yours.
- 7:23And for anyone building products on top of ChatGPT or integrating
- 7:27its recommendations into a daily workflow, the ground just
- 7:31shifted beneath them. It limits the reality of a
- 7:33purely neutral artificial intelligence assistant.
- 7:36If your workflow relies heavily on this platform for research,
- 7:40drafting, or coding, the presence of a lucrative
- 7:43advertising model proves that the best time to think about
- 7:46platform dependency is always before the platform finds its
- 7:50primary business model. Because once the business model
- 7:53is locked in and generating hundreds of millions of dollars,
- 7:56you are subject to the gravity of their advertisers.
- 7:59If you built your entire company's internal tools around
- 8:01a clean, objective text generation API, you have to
- 8:05seriously consider how an ad supported consumer interface
- 8:08might eventually bleed into the underlying logic of the models
- 8:11you depend on. The industry fallout from this
- 8:13rapid monetization strategy has created intense friction and
- 8:16public rivalry. Yeah.
- 8:18Competitor Anthropic ridiculed this specific ad push.
- 8:22They went as far as making it the entire focus of their Super
- 8:25Bowl campaign. Which is wild?
- 8:28Choosing the most expensive advertising stage in the world
- 8:31to attack the concept of an ad supported artificial
- 8:34intelligence. And industry voices like John
- 8:36Batel view Open a Eyes revenue announcement through a really
- 8:40critical lens. He called the announcement a
- 8:42particularly thirsty leak. Right.
- 8:45And in the dynamic of technology companies, a thirsty leak
- 8:48usually happens when a company feels immense pressure to
- 8:52justify by its massive valuation.
- 8:54So in his view, releasing these specific numbers was meant to
- 8:58aggressively declare they are succeeding with this new
- 9:01initiative amidst heavy internal pressure to generate cash.
- 9:04The cost of running these enormous language models
- 9:07requires vast amounts of computing power, and he argues
- 9:10they have a perilous path to navigate.
- 9:12Navigating between achieving product market fit, maintaining
- 9:15simple utility, and handling the pressure to pay for the server
- 9:18costs. I actually look at the
- 9:19motivation behind releasing those numbers completely
- 9:21differently. Oh, really?
- 9:22Yeah, I think it functions instead as a highly necessary
- 9:26signal to marketers. OK, how so?
- 9:28Well, Open AI claims there has been 0 impact on privacy related
- 9:32trust metrics since the ads rolled out, right?
- 9:35That is exactly the data point those 600 advertisers need to
- 9:38hear to keep spending their budgets.
- 9:40Oh, I see. If a chief marketing officer is
- 9:43going to authorize putting their brand next to an artificial
- 9:46intelligence prompt, they need absolute assurance that users
- 9:50are not fleeing the platform over data privacy fears.
- 9:53Because advertisers are inherently risk averse, they
- 9:56worry that the language model might say something
- 9:58controversial right next to their company logo.
- 10:00So by publicly stating that user trust remains stable and revenue
- 10:04is accelerating, Open AI is building a safety blanket for
- 10:07the next wave of corporate ad buyers.
- 10:09Exactly. And the momentum of the rollout
- 10:11is continuing entirely regardless of the public
- 10:14criticism. The company's exploring
- 10:16additional testing in Canada, Australia and New Zealand.
- 10:19They are taking the technical framework established in the US
- 10:22pilot and pushing it into international markets.
- 10:24To see how different privacy laws and consumer behaviors
- 10:28react to the presence of sponsored content inside an
- 10:31artificial intelligence interface.
- 10:34This public rivalry really limits their ability to run this
- 10:37monetization quietly. Every single move they make is
- 10:41instantly broadcast, analyzed, and often mocked by competitors
- 10:45on massive stages. But it opens up a very clear
- 10:48dividing line in the market between ad supported models and
- 10:52pure subscription models. It forces you to choose exactly
- 10:55how you want to pay for your artificial intelligence.
- 10:58Either with your wallet or with your attention.
- 11:00So Open AI proved they can generate extraordinary ad
- 11:03revenue from a fraction of their users without immediately
- 11:06breaking consumer trust. But history shows that kind of
- 11:09financial gravity inevitably reshapes how a platform
- 11:12operates. As this advertising model
- 11:14expands, will an artificial intelligence train to be as
- 11:17helpful as possible eventually redefine the word helpful to
- 11:20include buying a sponsor's product?
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