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"NextEra-Dominion Merger" (Friday, May 22, 2026, Hour 4) · First Thing Today with Joe Thomas

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  Speaker 1: Question first thing today on the Talk Media Network by
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  Speaker 1: Joe Thomas.
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  Speaker 2: Your words at steal me stem you have a day
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  Speaker 2: at least for work.
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  Speaker 3: When the sun comes up, drops a pet of the Scooday, Joe.
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  Speaker 4: Has everything a dream do all the JASU said, it
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  Speaker 4: needs no.
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  Speaker 5: One that Joe's as smile, he only is.
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  Speaker 6: Let them be.
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  Speaker 7: Joe, thank you for letting us be of service to
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  Speaker 7: you this morning.
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  Speaker 4: I want to be.
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  Speaker 7: Four three four eight eight two four two one seven.
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  Speaker 7: That's the magical mystery hotline that you use. Uh, you
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  Speaker 7: can text message to us. That's fun because I get
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  Speaker 7: to read your words. John Myers, Uh sent this one
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  Speaker 7: in said, just wrote, I just heard the news report
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  Speaker 7: about the school official who was convicted of embezzling one
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  Speaker 7: thousand dollars. That makes it a felony in Virginia. Do
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  Speaker 7: you think that this person should lose the right to
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  Speaker 7: defend themselves based on such a non violent infraction compared
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  Speaker 7: to rape or murder? Meaning in most states, and I
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  Speaker 7: don't know everyone's law book yet, I'm working on it,
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  Speaker 7: but in Virginia, felony means you lose the right to
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  Speaker 7: own a gun, you lose the right to vote. These
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  Speaker 7: are all things that the governor has to be petitioned
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  Speaker 7: to restore. And this has been a controversial thing for
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  Speaker 7: some time because there are folks on the left who
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  Speaker 7: want automatic restoration of rights upon completion of your of
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  Speaker 7: your sentence if you're convicted of felony, and there are
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  Speaker 7: folks who like the system where you say, okay, well,
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  Speaker 7: let's have you petition the governor's office for that restoration
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  Speaker 7: of rights. It has worked for some time that the
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  Speaker 7: governor's approval has been the rule of law, as it were.
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  Speaker 7: And I don't think anyone has ever said that I
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  Speaker 7: should have got my rights back, but I didn't me personally,
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  Speaker 7: I don't have a problem with you losing constitutional protection
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  Speaker 7: of your God given rights. And I say it that
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  Speaker 7: way intentionally, John, if you have been convicted by a
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  Speaker 7: jury of your peers of violating someone else's rights. Now
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  Speaker 7: that being said, I also want only things that are
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  Speaker 7: clearly violation of other citizens' rights to rise the level
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  Speaker 7: of felony. I think we overcriminalize things we just don't
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  Speaker 7: like now, embezzlement of money, stealing theft, I think is
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  Speaker 7: a viol of someone's rights. And therefore I think it's
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  Speaker 7: appropriate that if you were convicted of felony embezzlement, that
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  Speaker 7: you lose your rights protections for a period, but I
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  Speaker 7: also think you should be able to get them back,
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  Speaker 7: and you are in Virginia, you just petition when your
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  Speaker 7: term is up. By the way, that a woman's conviction
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  Speaker 7: was twelve months twelve months suspended as long as she
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  Speaker 7: keeps her nose clean for twelve months, but being a
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  Speaker 7: felony conviction, she will still have to apply to the
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  Speaker 7: Governor's office for restoration. And I don't have a problem
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  Speaker 7: with that on our list of first things this morning.
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  Speaker 7: But again, John, thank you for the email. The Republicans
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  Speaker 7: struggled yesterday to find votes to dismiss a war powers resolution,
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  Speaker 7: so the Speaker of the House took it off the
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  Speaker 7: docket and delayed a vote into June. The reason they
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  Speaker 7: didn't have enough votes well, some Republicans like Tommy Massey
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  Speaker 7: had switched sides on the idea or were already on
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  Speaker 7: the side of voting to restrict the president's authority to
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  Speaker 7: use more military force in Iran, and there were also
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  Speaker 7: a lot of Republicans were absent yesterday. A judge on
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  Speaker 7: Thursday handed down a prison sentence to the leader of
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  Speaker 7: Feeding Our Future, that's Amy Box. She was the head
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  Speaker 7: of the organization at the center of the staggering two
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  Speaker 7: hundred and fifty million dollar fraud case, single largest COVID
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  Speaker 7: nineteen fraud scheme in the country, according to the Justice Department.
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  Speaker 7: DNC chair Ken Martin released the Quote Autopsy report on
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  Speaker 7: the presidential election loss in twenty twenty four. One of
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  Speaker 7: their findings was that they didn't spend enough time pointing
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  Speaker 1: We didn't make talk radio, we made it better. First
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  Speaker 1: Thing Today by Joe Thomas on the Talk Video Network.
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  Speaker 7: So we're visiting with podcaster Reformed legislator. He is a
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  Speaker 7: former member of the Freedom Concus, former chair of the
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  Speaker 7: Freedom Concuss, Former Congressman Bob good former because two years
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  Speaker 7: ago he was running a campaign. President Trump endorsed his opponent,
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  Speaker 7: and he is not in Congress anymore. And we're talking
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  Speaker 7: about the Thomas Massey situation. Bob, I appreciate you hanging
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  Speaker 7: around with us. Okay, sir, so you were saying, yeah, so.
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  Speaker 19: But what I don't understand, I think many of the
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  Speaker 19: American people don't understand, and many members of Congress don't understand,
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  Speaker 19: is what was the mission and the objective and the
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  Speaker 19: purpose to go it alone to the level that we
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  Speaker 19: did back in February. The objective scene and the definition
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  Speaker 19: of the war and the limit of the campaign so forth,
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  Speaker 19: continues to seem to change by the day, by the week.
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  Speaker 19: But we're I think we're left with two undesirable possible outcomes.
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  Speaker 19: One we stay for an indefinite period of time to
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  Speaker 19: prop up something that we feel like we can support,
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  Speaker 19: would put our troops in a vulnerable position for an
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  Speaker 19: indefinite period of time.
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  Speaker 1: Or we just leave in declare victory.
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  Speaker 19: I think the president loses credibility though when he justifies
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  Speaker 19: this second campaign by saying they were going to attack
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  Speaker 19: us in a week and that Iran had was on
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  Speaker 19: the verge of an immediate nuclear weapon. That's not credible
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  Speaker 19: with what he said. Even after he started the February campaign,
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  Speaker 19: the second campaign, he said that we had eliminated their
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  Speaker 19: nuclear capability last summer.
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  Speaker 1: So I do think.
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  Speaker 19: That you're at a point where congressional approval should be required.
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  Speaker 19: I think the American people's express support for the war
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  Speaker 19: should be demonstrated through members of Congress being willing to
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  Speaker 19: vote for it. And you know, I don't know where
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  Speaker 19: this ends and how we end up better off than
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  Speaker 19: we were when we started.
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  Speaker 7: Well, and that becomes the key thing, and that's what
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  Speaker 7: I think a lot of people want to see. But
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  Speaker 7: that's further in than a lot of people in my business, unfortunately,
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  Speaker 7: have given this the oxygen to unfold because they just
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  Speaker 7: hit with Thomas Massey opposed Trump on the war, and
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  Speaker 7: that was it, and that's all, you know, you wind
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  Speaker 7: up getting. And I wanted to give a little bit more.
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  Speaker 7: So I appreciate your discussion on that. You know, Memorial
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  Speaker 7: Day weekend, we've talked about this, actually talking about servicemen
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  Speaker 7: and women losing their lives even in this battle or
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  Speaker 7: in peril of doing so in these battles with Iran.
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  Speaker 7: You know, thoughts as we go into Memorial Day weekend?
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  Speaker 6: Are you know.
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  Speaker 7: It has the president? You know, certainly has VA has
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  Speaker 7: made some incredible strides. We reported on this earlier this
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  Speaker 7: week that there's been I think a third fewer instant
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  Speaker 7: or third thirty three percent increase in the number of
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  Speaker 7: soldiers who were seeking help through the VA for psychological
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  Speaker 7: issues that might have manifested into the horrible blight of
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  Speaker 7: suicides amongst veterans and things like that. What are your
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  Speaker 7: thoughts on this Memorial to Day weekends as we look
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  Speaker 7: into the twenty first century in our American military.
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  Speaker 19: It is the most important of all holidays from a
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  Speaker 19: national standpoint, setting aside holidays based on our faith Christmas
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  Speaker 19: and Easter, for example, but any you think about We
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  Speaker 19: just came from Armed Forces Day, which celebrates all service members,
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  Speaker 19: all military members. We will in November will sell Great
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  Speaker 19: Veterans Days those who previously serve. Memorial Day is even
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  Speaker 19: more sacred in the sense that we celebrate or remember
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  Speaker 19: and memorialize those who made the ultimate sacrifice who died
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  Speaker 19: for our country, the more than one million who gave
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  Speaker 19: their lives and service to our nation to ensure we
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  Speaker 19: remain free, to purchase our freedom, to preserve our freedom,
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  Speaker 19: and we owe a debt of gratitude that we can
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  Speaker 19: only repay by remembering and honoring and memorializing, but also
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  Speaker 19: committing to preserve and to keep the republic to which
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  Speaker 19: we've been entrusted, which is the only hope for the
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  Speaker 19: world from the standpoint of freedom, and for perpetuating and
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  Speaker 19: promoting the things that matter most in our country and
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  Speaker 19: frankly in our world.
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  Speaker 7: And to me, it's a point I've always made. Our
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  Speaker 7: best ambassadors to the world have always been our soldiers,
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  Speaker 7: whether you go all the way.
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  Speaker 16: Back to or no question about it, everyone.
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  Speaker 7: Talks about all I wanted to come to America because
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  Speaker 7: I met the American soldiers in my country we were
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  Speaker 7: being liberated from What is coming up this week on
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  Speaker 7: the Good for America podcast bomb, We're.
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  Speaker 19: Going to talk a lot about the Massy election and
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  Speaker 19: what that means. We're going to talk about the Republican
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  Speaker 19: Party going forward, what is the Trump agenda, how to
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  Speaker 19: Republicans unite into the November midterms, what do they unite
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  Speaker 19: around and what does it look for twenty six and
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  Speaker 19: twenty eight.
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  Speaker 7: You raised something I spoke to a local Republican committee
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  Speaker 7: just last night, and that was I mean, when we
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  Speaker 7: opened the Florida questions, that was what happened in the
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  Speaker 7: governor's race. What's going to happen going forward? And the
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  Speaker 7: one thing I point out is if you ask base
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  Speaker 7: conservative principles, eighty percent of the country maybe seventy five percent,
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  Speaker 7: and we all agree on these core conservative principles. The
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  Speaker 7: only way the left wins and wins handily is if
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  Speaker 7: we get divine. And I think that's one of the
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  Speaker 7: things that in all of these discussions, I don't want
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  Speaker 7: it to be seen as dividing as much as it
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  Speaker 7: is strengthening. You know, if somebody says to me, hey, Joe,
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  Speaker 7: why did you put something on the air, It's okay.
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  Speaker 7: I'm not going to get defensive about it. I'm not
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  Speaker 7: going to hopefully lose a listener if we discuss something
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  Speaker 7: that might not sound pro Trump. It's because we want
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  Speaker 7: all these things to be The best is being unified
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  Speaker 7: going into twenty twenty six. Its going to be the
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  Speaker 7: hardest lift for Republicans bomb, yes.
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  Speaker 19: Because it is not a sustainable, unifying principle that we
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  Speaker 19: just follow a leader irrespective of what he does or says.
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  Speaker 19: That the Trump agenda changes to Now it means ballrooms
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  Speaker 19: at taxpayer expense. Now it means slush funds. Now it means,
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  Speaker 19: you know, immunity from being audited by the IRS. Now
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  Speaker 19: it means war. It doesn't mean war. Now it means
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  Speaker 19: deficit spending and growing the national debt, or it doesn't. Philosophy, sipple, conviction,
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  Speaker 19: the constitution, conservatism, those are unifying principles. Just blindly following
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  Speaker 19: a personality irrespective of what he does or says is
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  Speaker 19: not unifying.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I'll try in a healthy way, not a healthy way.
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  Speaker 7: I'll take that, not personally. I know you don't mean me, Bob,
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  Speaker 7: but you have a blessed Memorial Day weekend. I hope
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  Speaker 7: you have a wonderful time. Lots of family around, and
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  Speaker 7: we will talk to you again next week.
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  Speaker 6: I'm doing well, Joe, I hope for you, and our
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  Speaker 7: I don't get my electricity from Dominion Energy, so I
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  Speaker 6: Data centers certainly provide an excuse in some cases a
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  Speaker 6: based next Era being even larger than Dominion want to merge.
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  Speaker 1: Absolute quick for you from Joe Thomas. It's first thing today, so.
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  Speaker 7: Uh Bonner going on with this committee for a constructive
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  Speaker 7: tomorrow sfact dot Org. Bonner and I appreciate your time
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  Speaker 7: going into this Memorial Day weekend, and we have thoughts
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  Speaker 7: on it before we finish up here. Is there an
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  Speaker 7: upside to the fact that this mega company will probably
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  Speaker 7: be based out of Florida. That's that's where next Era
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  Speaker 7: is right now, and and that Florida is, let's just say,
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  Speaker 7: more evolved constitutionally than Virginia is at this moment.
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  Speaker 6: Ye, there's certainly a much friendlier business climate and by
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  Speaker 6: the way, tax climate in Florida than there is in Virginia.
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  Speaker 6: We say that with great regret, but that's simple, simply reality.
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  Speaker 6: If I were a Virginia based employee of Dominion, I
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  Speaker 6: would have worries about future employment opportunities as you to
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  Speaker 6: stay with the company, because it makes a lot more
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  Speaker 6: sense to have the employees in Florida than it does
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  Speaker 6: in Virginia because things are simply cheaper there.
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  Speaker 20: Uh.
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  Speaker 6: And the various regulations that are being posed statewide in
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  Speaker 6: Virginia that raise the cost of employment in Virginia are
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  Speaker 6: simply going to make Florida look more attractive. So yes,
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  Speaker 6: I think having the company based in Florida. Will is
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  Speaker 6: simply something better than having the company based in the
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  Speaker 6: individual that has emerged in the past couple of decades
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  Speaker 6: are certainly more blue than red, more hostile to entrepreneurship,
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  Speaker 6: and you know, a less business friendly climate than then
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  Speaker 7: So, Bonnard, you were saying, you know, there are no
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  Speaker 7: other sources that can be that reliable. What about the
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  Speaker 7: data centers that say, hey, we'll build our own and
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  Speaker 7: they all seem to be okay with us. I've talked
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  Speaker 7: to some industry groups that are like, we don't have
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  Speaker 7: a problem building our own electric grid if you will
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  Speaker 7: to feed just our needs and not bother the local
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  Speaker 7: utility at all, and in some cases generate stuff that
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  Speaker 7: can go back out into the grid and actually strengthen it.
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  Speaker 7: Why aren't we talking about that more?
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  Speaker 6: Actually we should be, because the Trump administration is pushing
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  Speaker 6: full this. They recognize that data centers, which are not
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  Speaker 6: the most architecturally the most beautiful things in the world.
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  Speaker 6: You don't really want to live next door to one
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  Speaker 6: of these things, but they are absolutely essential when it
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  Speaker 6: comes to American competitiveness. In the latest iteration of the
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  Speaker 6: industrial revolution, which is the AI development. And we don't
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  Speaker 6: have the choice of doing these things or not doing them.
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  Speaker 6: It's a matter of how it is to be done.
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  Speaker 6: We put ourselves in a very advantageous position by shutting
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  Speaker 6: down so many coal fire power plants, and the Biden
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  Speaker 6: administration was very eager to shut down as many natural
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  Speaker 6: gas power power plants as it could get away with.
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  Speaker 6: So developers now recognize that have to produce this stuff
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  Speaker 6: on site. The practice is called behind the meter, so
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  Speaker 6: that you're not drawing electricity from other people. This can
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  Speaker 6: and will be done. Currently there are four thousand data
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  Speaker 6: centers in the United States, with another three thousand pretty
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  Speaker 6: well along in the development process, though many are being
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  Speaker 6: challenged in court and what have you. But they are
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  Speaker 6: going to have to become self sustaining with respect to energy.
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  Speaker 6: I think they have absolutely the financial wherewithal to make
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  Speaker 6: that possible. And so that is that's going to make
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  Speaker 6: them less a threat to energy security than is currently
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  Speaker 6: the case is simply because they'll be producing their own power.
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  Speaker 7: Well, you talk about security as well. I mean I
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  Speaker 7: would rather have these data centers on American soil than
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  Speaker 7: say Russian or Chinese soil. So because of our Bill
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  Speaker 7: of Rights, because that you know, there is an abstract
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  Speaker 7: of being able to protect people's privacy and that kind
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  Speaker 7: of thing in a data center that's in the United
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  Speaker 7: States more so than there is one that's in Beijing.
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  Speaker 6: Certainly, Bonner, Oh, certainly.
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  Speaker 23: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: We have something in the United States called the rule
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  Speaker 6: of law. Now, as we all know, it's imperfect. We
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  Speaker 6: get to judicial decisions with which we are in agreement
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  Speaker 6: and judicial decisions with which we are not. But nevertheless,
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  Speaker 6: there's a rule of law here. There is none in China.
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  Speaker 6: There is none in Russia. And we also have a
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  Speaker 6: level of technological sophistication here that is also superior to
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  Speaker 6: what you will find in Russia. By the way, it's
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  Speaker 6: also superior to what you'll find in China. And we
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  Speaker 6: can do things that they cannot do, and we could
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  Speaker 6: also do them with participation from the public, something that
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  Speaker 6: is not possible in China. Not all that participation here
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  Speaker 6: is desirable because that also means to endless lawsuits. But
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  Speaker 6: that's the world in which we live, Bonnard.
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  Speaker 7: What is the peril to Virginian or Floridian or anyone
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  Speaker 7: in the Carolina's of this merger? You know, blowing up
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  Speaker 7: our rates and making it even more expensive to get
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  Speaker 7: our electricity.
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  Speaker 6: That isn't necessarily going to be the case of provided
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  Speaker 6: that this new entity puts a focus on real energy,
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  Speaker 6: not wind, not solar, not battery. In its infinite wisdom,
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  Speaker 6: the Virginia General Assembly just amended the Virginia Clean Energy
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  Speaker 6: Act to provide more battery storage. No energy is produced
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  Speaker 6: by battery storage. That's that's that's that's making a utility
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  Speaker 6: put resources into something that does not really produce energy.
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  Speaker 7: Amen to that bonder see fact. It is the Committee
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  Speaker 7: for Constructive Tomorrow. God bless you, sir h and we
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  Speaker 7: appreciate it. Getting ready to get out of here for
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  Speaker 6: On good land. Here.
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  Speaker 3: She's been abused, she's been burned, dishonored, denied, and reviewsed.
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  Speaker 1: So leave you.
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  Speaker 3: She because she's been through the fire before, and I
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  Speaker 7: God bless America. God bless the men and women who
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  Speaker 7: and never see them again. For you have a great
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  Speaker 7: rest of the Friday and until the next time, So long,
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  Speaker 23: My name is Bobby. I'm a veteran and lost my
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  Speaker 18: I'm a veteran.
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  Speaker 19: My victory was finding a career I can be proud
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  Speaker 19: of and supporting my family.
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  Speaker 9: America's veterans are on their most important tour, the tour
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  Speaker 1: My victory was going from homeless to all.
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  Speaker 9: At DAV, we're on a mission to help veterans get
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  Speaker 20: I'm a veteran and my victory was finishing my education.
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  Speaker 9: DAV offers veterans of all generations a lifetime of support
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  Speaker 23: My victory was proving that disability is not a limitation.
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  Speaker 15: My victory was getting my service dog and new best friend.
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  Speaker 9: We help more than a million veterans every year as
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  Speaker 18: My victory is being able to be there for my family.
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