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Hey, good morning on this Monday morning, June the 23rd right
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here on MB radio dot USI am MJ with the world of conscious
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positive thinking. Woo.
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We've had a lot of thinking this weekend.
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I know everybody's chattering like monkeys out there.
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However, I want every single person to close your eyes and
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look around afterwards. close them. close those eyes.
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Take a big old deep breath. Wow, you're still here.
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Damn, you're still here. You're not injured, you're not
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hurt, you're not dead, but you're still here.
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What's that mean? That means whatever you are
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thinking, whatever that ego, whatever that judgement's going
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on in that head, take it right out.
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Sir, ma'am, take it out. Because we're not at war.
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We have strength. We have strength to show.
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It is somebody saying I am telling you to stop and they
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don't. That's an authoritative, I'm
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giving you a warning. Stop, however, with the chatter
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monkeys out there. I understand you have to express
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your feelings, but every time you express your feelings, I
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want a positive reenactment feeling going on going, but
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you're not there. You're not there.
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However you are here. You are safe.
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You are OK. Look at the world around you.
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Look how beautiful the grass is. Look how beautiful the sun is.
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We are in our summer solstice. It is the energy.
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We are in a manifesting year. This manifesting year is our
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midway mark. We have our new moon coming.
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It is another manifestation energy.
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Look how beautiful and divine we are.
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Yes, things are happening, but they always do Why?
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Because we're catalysts and we always have life lessons to
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learn. How do we function?
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Well, we function by honoring the positive side and flipping
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those right here, we're flipping it.
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So if you do have, you know, I understand it's hot.
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Listen, it is so hot. I just want to show you this
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bang check on your friend who have naturally curly hair in
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this heat because we are not OK. Do you understand?
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We are not OK. I'm just saying we're not now.
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I just showed you behind my scenes because I had to show you
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my crazy hair. That's right.
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You can flatten it all you want, but whoop, it's going to go
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right up in this humidity. And it's OK because we got we
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got a little bandies that we put on our hair.
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That's right. Or it could be like Jewel and
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you know, he'll he'll take the weave off.
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It's a little too hot for Jewel. Anyhow, we have an exciting
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show. We have a beautiful guest today.
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Her name is Gemma Lopez. I call her my personal doc.
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She has so insightful. She brings just another
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dimension of healing with so many different certs, so many
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different certificates, so many different healing modalities
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that you're in awe and you just not only you're in awe, you're
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like in awe of her beauty first when you see her and then you're
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in awe because you're like, my gosh, she is so extremely in my
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thought and in my impression and others too.
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Just a beautiful healing by touch.
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And you just know you're gonna feel better.
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You just know because that's the energy that she gives off.
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It is such a positive, uplifting energy and she is physical
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therapy. However, don't even look at that
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because she can see right through you and she can see
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exactly what's going on. And give you a little story.
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My husband who he was a a charter boat.
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He was normally private and did a lot of tournaments.
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But think about how that tower has to climb right?
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And so here's the boat, right? This is what he did.
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And you people who fish, you get it.
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This is what just happens. So his hips are doing this since
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he was 12 and probably before that in his own personal boats,
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not on, not on the charters, not on the paid boats, right?
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Of course, we're born. He was born, not me, but he was
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in Miami. So that constant moving of those
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hips and it's ironic, he went to the VA and they told him with
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the sciatic, he had degenerate disc and that there was no
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cushions and that the only thing that was going to make him
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better was this unit that they're going to put inside of
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his back, his spine. Not one surgery, not two
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surgery, 3 surgeries. I go no, no, no.
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By this point I had really met and loved Miss JAMA and when I
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got to her, I said, can I ask you a quick question?
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I said, do you would you mind? I said, I know you know, you're
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not quite private yet. And I said, but I trust you
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enough that I'm asking you to just to have a, an e-mail of my
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husband. Well, we didn't really know each
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other. She surely didn't know my
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husband at the time, but she came to my house.
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I'm not kidding you men. Seriously within I'm going to
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say 1/2 hour. I wasn't there but my husband
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said it was pretty quick. She diagnosed him not even
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needing the surgeries that the VA did.
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She diagnosed him of pelvic floor issues.
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Gave him a series of exercises, said it might take a while, but
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if he is consistent with the exercises, then it's going to
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make him feel better. So we had to go for another
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operation to remove the stuff that they took out.
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Meanwhile, he's in physical therapy.
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She talked to a physical therapist or he did with the
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evaluation that she gave and they started working in physical
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therapy with these ailments with.
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I asked her is it would it work? What I shouldn't even have asked
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if it would have worked, but I said I'm going to look now at
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the right frequencies and I had been plugging in what the VA
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said but it wasn't helping. The minute I started plugging in
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the frequencies for his pelvic floor issues and his sciatic, it
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made like this whole big difference in the world's into
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his healing process. So between Gemma's beautiful
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X-ray eyes and her eval and her stuff compounding with the
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exercises and Rife, this man was painless.
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Painless in 10 days, 10 days, painless.
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And every day that pain went down and down and down.
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She is on my side, women's side. She specializes in oncology for
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bilateral mastectomies. I am a survivor of bilateral
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mastectomy cancers and one of my complications are my central
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nervous system. My nerve endings are not really
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good. That was from the military.
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I don't have very good nerve endings.
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So the scar tissues, when it happened, my nerves just started
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curling up, creating something called a neuroma.
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I had 13 of them, 13 neuromas. I went to Gemma and asked her
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about them and she did these massages and she goes, you know,
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you can do it this way, you can have them removed.
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I said I do not want to go under a knife.
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I don't want to go under, I don't want to do this, I don't
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want to go under that. I want to try to do this
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homeopathically. I want to try to do it as
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alternative. So she created these massages to
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massage these neuromas out. And I'm not gonna lie, they were
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painful. And I also used Rife and we also
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used Reiki, these 3 modalities. Out of 13, I only have 3 left.
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There's three. I was like the heat and the
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sweat. No, I only have 3 left out of
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13. No surgery.
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Again. I spied Gemma to the rescue.
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She is beyond as a healer. We know that we're not here to
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heal every single person. We're here to help assist to
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heal the person, right? Doctors included nurses, right?
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When you are a service to others, especially as a healer,
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we give them modalities. It's up to you and your mind
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frame and how your physiologies and your mechanics can all
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assist in helping. But it's up here.
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Then we got to get it straight and our body will respond and
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she brings that to fruition every damn time.
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I'm not kidding. She works on beyond.
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I mean, she, she works on cosmetic surgeries.
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People who have it. And here's the thing, when you
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do these things like oncology, a lot of I never had to go through
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physical therapy. the VA never put me through it, which was the
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worst thing in the world because that's why I got a lot of the
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scar tissue. They have to go through these
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therapeutic areas in order to release these things.
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I had a couple of patients that I knew was completely No matter
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how I tried to remove anything metaphysically, no matter how I
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tried with right frequencies, still needed the mechanics of
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the physical body in order to move.
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I have sent several of my customers and my clients to her
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for further healing, especially down there in Miami, which is
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where she's at. And her story is amazing.
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The triumphs, the tribulations, the awareness going through her
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own, just her own journey. It's just incredible.
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So if you're sitting there wondering if you have pain
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somewhere, but you're not in pain, I'm then I'm talking
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directly to those right now who the frequency or the vibrations
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of Earth, especially through the bombings, especially through
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Mount Kilawalla, who is erupting the earthquakes, These are lower
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vibrational frequencies. These frequencies are going to
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end up having a displacement on our own energy.
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And you compound it with the energies above going through the
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full moon. That was rough.
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That full moon was rough on a lot of people.
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And we honestly, we need to be aware of energies at all time.
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If we start to feel ourselves being depressed or we start to
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feel ourselves being out of sorts and being depressed, we
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need to ground back in, right, ground back into earth tone,
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ground back into unconditional love, ground back into
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Cephegios. If you don't have another way of
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using audio pipe frequencies or right frequencies, do yourself a
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favor. Look up Cephegios.
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Right. SO no, yeah, SOFF sofedge.
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Come on, MJ SOFFI e.g. A no GIOG.
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I'll figure it out. I'll put it up there.
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But anyway, wherever Joel is Joel bat cave, I need
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sofeggio's. Send me the word sofeggio in the
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bat cave there and then I'll put it up online.
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Or you can put it post it up online.
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What is Sofeggio frequencies? These are frequencies that go by
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emotional or go by physical decoding.
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They are knowing now that sound frequency is another modality of
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therapies in all of us. So when you get yourself down,
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especially right now, the earth is feeling the shakes and the
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shivers. So we compound it and we
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remember. The more you can stay calm in
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the chaos is the higher vibration you seek.
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So no matter what's going on around you, you always stay
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within a positive frame of mind. It's not that we are burying it,
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It is that we are understanding it and we refuse to give it any
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type of our energy. It's the same as illness.
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So now that I just spoke my jopper off for 15 minutes, we're
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going to go to commercial. When we go to commercial, we'll
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bring you the interview of the week and we'll bring the
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beautiful Miss Gemma on board. And we're going to find out who
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she is, where she's from, get her back end story, and then go
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into beautiful discussions of how each and every one of us can
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handle and hold this beautifulness.
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And there, there it is. That's right, the ninth official
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frequencies, 174 Hertz foundation of foundation and
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pain relief. OK, so we're going to copy all
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this Sergio, and we're going to put it in our comments.
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Here we go, folks. If you don't know about them,
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we're going to paste it. Here it is.
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My boy found it. So it goes through different.
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You can even look up any type of hurt system of emotional
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decoding that you're going through, and I encourage you to
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use it. It is probably one of the best
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things that you can do for yourself.
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The only thing you got to do is just lay down quietly and try to
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go within. Put an eye mask on if you have
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to, make sure you're nice and comfortable, and allow the music
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to work for you. The best time is to get binary
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headsets. Why?
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Because your brain works in harmony in a binary system,
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right? That's why you have the right,
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left of the brain, the thoracic and the spiritual sides of the
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brain that kind of work. So instead of tapping the
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Safegio, you put them on and it'll balance throughout the
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brain. That chemistry of the frequency
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that you're looking for. It's amazing how it works.
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Plants respond by it, humans respond by it and the fairy
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world responds by it, which is the dog, cat, animal world.
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They all respond by music. If you don't believe me, try it
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on your own pets. If you see them acting up,
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they'll be right there and they'll be right there to help
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you and gather whatever information that you need.
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All right so MBR radio dot US. I'm MJ of the world conscious
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positive thinking. We're going to go to our first,
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our first song of the day, and I'm going to pick Cynthia Rausch
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coming home. I kind of felt right now with a
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lot of people who were trapped over there, they're coming home.
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We've been releasing them from hostages situations we've been
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picking up and finding those who are missing and getting figure
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out where they are. So I thought it would be a
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really nice thing to do today. So here we go, Cynthia.
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I'm about as far as I'm going. Welcome home.
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I'm sure your family and all your friends are going to be
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glad to see you. Thank you, Sir.
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time. Are you ready?
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Here we go. The interview of the week is
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brought to you by Jersey Mike's, a sub above.
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And there she is, down in Miami. Hi, Miss Gemma.
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Hello, Miss MJ. I'm so happy to see your
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beautiful face. I miss you, I miss you.
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Mammy Oh, very soon, very soon. Kim and I are checking out
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dates, so it's going to be very soon, very soon.
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Is it as hot down here? It's boiling, I don't know if
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you can see my hair. We keep the house at like 70 so
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it doesn't go too crazy. I know, I know that.
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That the humid, curly, frizzy hair thing.
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Dude, I, I give up. I, I actually straightened it
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this morning. Look, I was like, I just give
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up. I'm telling you, where's my
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alpacas? I don't even try in the summer.
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I just give up. I put it in my little let My
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Little Pony thing like you touched that be.
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Carry every good woman has a pony holder I.
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Have a ton of them. Oh my gosh.
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So I, I absolutely just adore you, you know that.
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And I am so thankful that we've crossed our paths in this
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lifetime and I got to be able to find somebody who can actually
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assist in healing beyond the one modality.
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Because always having to move around to find somebody to
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always like this part and this part and this part.
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You seem to be like this big beautiful package and healing
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the body physically and mentally and emotionally.
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I just, I, I don't know, I, that's just my take on you and I
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don't care what anybody else thinks because that's just
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judgement on their end. But I'm going to claim it
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because that's who I am. So I gave a little ditty about
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you, but I really want to dig in.
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I want to dig in. Who is Gemma Lopez?
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Where are you from? Where were you born?
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How did you get to Miami? Did you live there?
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I mean, I got a lot of questions.
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Happy to answer them all. This is just you and I having a
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conversation and I love it because I miss you.
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So where am I from? I was born in the Philippines,
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believe it or not. My dad was there working on
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airplanes, training, my mom was the secretary for the airline
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that he was working with and voila, here I am.
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Of course, I came to the United States at the age of 3 1/2 and I
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lived in that Kendall Kendall area of Miami for forever and
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now I moved out to the Redlands with my husband and my 3 kids.
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So out in as country as you can get in Miami as you know.
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Go ahead, Sorry. No, I said.
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Yes, yeah. So that was out.
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There too, so I know very well. Well, this is kind of nice out
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here 'cause it's country ish and you get away from the big city
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which I lived in for most of my life.
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So I knew it was too much energetically for me and that's
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why I moved out here sort of to the country.
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The nature of the trees, the animals.
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We have chickens, we have the whole 9 yards.
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So I love it. I love the E i.e. i.e.
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I/O. So then, so you were basically
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went through school in Kendall, so you graduated.
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Did you stay in the Miami area for school?
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I stayed in the Miami area my whole life.
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The only time I've ever been out of the Miami area is to travel.
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That's it, which we love to do. But this is my home base and has
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been since I moved here in 76. And you went to college there as
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well? Yeah.
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So I started off in Miami-Dade. I earned an associate in science
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degree in physical therapy. So I was an assistant for about
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25 years. About 20 years into it, I
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decided I wanted to go back to grad school.
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So it's crazy. I had three little kids, made a
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huge change in career. It was a total leap of faith,
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let me tell you. And three years full time grad
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school, I had to quit my job, take care of a family and all
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that good stuff. And I survived.
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That's all I can tell you. Sometimes I wonder how I did it
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because you know, with three young kids in school, I did pick
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up work on the weekends once I could.
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It was a challenge, but it took a village to do it.
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I had the help of my mom, my husband, my sisters, and you
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know, that's what it's all about.
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The Villager. Exactly, takes a village to
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raise a kid these days. No, I'm a big kid.
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I'm only 50 kids. I'm a really big kid.
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I need help. When you got through it, that's
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the power within us. It's the power within the eye,
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it's in the power within. What is it that you want?
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And when you want something, you are like you manifested it.
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No matter how long it took, you know it wasn't going to last
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forever. So we took the burden on in
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order to achieve the manifestation that we wanted or
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desired most. And you can be unstoppable when
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you get to that point. And that was.
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Exactly. So let's talk about your
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training. So you went back into grad
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school and then you got your your Is it called a doctrine?
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I'm sorry. OK.
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So then you got your doctor in through physical therapy.
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So in those areas, what kind of physical therapy did you
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specialize in or were you targeted and where you worked?
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It's funny because all of my career I worked in orthopedics,
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back injuries, shoulder injuries, knee injuries.
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And while I was in grad school, they do expose you to
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Pediatrics, you know, rehab, neurological stuff.
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And so my last rotation, they wanted to put me in a, what they
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called a hybrid. So I would do orthopedic, but
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then I would also do oncology and lymphedema.
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I knew absolutely nothing about it.
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I sent an e-mail to the professor that sent us out to
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all these clinical internships. And I said, this isn't for me.
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This isn't what I want to do. It's not the career path that I
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want to go on. And I still remember Doctor
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Munyekas told me, Gemma, you need to put another tool in your
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toolbox. Just go there open minded and
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get whatever you can from this experience.
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And I said, OK, you know, God's leading me here.
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For whatever reason. I went to the University of
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Miami. I did that that rotation.
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And I absolutely fell in love with the world of oncology and
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lymphedema. And that's how I ended up in
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this in this realm, so to speak. My clinical instructor, Anna
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Mae, she was a beautiful light. I saw the joy that she would
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bring to these patients. And I thought, this is exactly
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what I want to do. And so when I graduated in 2019,
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I went back to do a certification in lymphedema at
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the Academy of Lymphatic Studies because lymphedema is a
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secondary effect of cancer many times through radiation when
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they take out lymph nodes surgery.
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And so that specialty helped me help your world or the world of,
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you know, oncology is so much better from head and neck cancer
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to bladder cancer to, you know, breast cancer, all the above.
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It's been a, it's been a quite a journey and I've loved every
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minute of it. This, I'll tell you, it's a
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journey. I mean going through the
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process, whether it's a lobectomy or it is a full
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radical bilateral, it is, it's a, it's a journey that you're
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like, man, I could, I could live through anything.
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If I can live through that, I can live through because that
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is, it is it's not just taking out the cells.
30:20
There is so much reconstruction that has to go back in and
30:25
people, I think have a misconception that they want to
30:32
be put back together as they were.
30:34
But I it's hard for me to get that in a mental picture because
30:39
it's impossible to put you back the way you were because there's
30:44
pieces missing and you don't want that.
30:47
Like it's those pieces that were causing the disruption.
30:50
That's how I, I thought of it in my own mind, right?
30:54
I don't, I don't want to go back to that because that would mean
30:58
that I was then be a struggling person yet again and I didn't
31:03
want that. You know what I've found with my
31:06
patients, especially the breast cancer survivors, you go through
31:11
very much. I I worked with amputees for a
31:14
quick minute when I started in this field in 1994.
31:17
And you go through a phantom limb, you grieve the loss of
31:22
that part of your body. It's very, very real.
31:25
And I see the women go through it.
31:26
And I've actually had some male mastectomy patients as well.
31:30
So just beware. It's a very small percentage.
31:32
I think it's like 5% of males can also have breast cancer.
31:37
So it's it's a big, yeah, it's a major change.
31:40
So, you know, everybody needs to be aware.
31:42
That's the reality of it. You know, I'm really glad that
31:44
you brought up the amputees because here with the military
31:48
broadcast, we have quite a few veterans who get amputated or
31:55
have shrapnel to the face or burning of the bombs are, I
32:00
mean, that require a lot of OT and PT.
32:04
And so I don't, I don't, I understand that you do a lot of
32:08
lymphatic and you do these, but you also do these types of work,
32:13
right. And so for the, for the women
32:16
and the men who are going through the traumas of those.
32:21
And you're in that Miami area, Sikh Gemma, right.
32:25
And I think with any type of amputee, and you can correct me
32:29
if I'm wrong, there is some type of psychology behind where you
32:35
give like this beautiful. I, I don't want to say that you
32:41
are, you're a counselor, but you're not.
32:44
I, I don't know, maybe you do. Do you have a psych degree too?
32:48
No, I I feel like I do sometimes.
32:49
Though I know you go into like therapy and you're like, man,
32:55
I'm a counselor, but I'm not like I'm.
32:57
Just, I think being human, that's part of it, right?
33:00
We and I and I've worked with patients for months, sometimes
33:03
years on end, on and off. So you, you develop a rapport, a
33:07
relationship and you share things and you, you hear their
33:10
traumas, their, their worries, their anxieties, their fears.
33:13
And it's the human thing to just kind of have conversation about
33:16
those things. And I think that's therapeutic
33:18
for for the patients as well. Yeah, I think it is too.
33:21
I think it's important for them to speak.
33:23
I mean, even when I was doing the PTSD circles in The Cave
33:27
where I bring the people for it, it's allowing them to have a
33:31
voice. It's allowing them to speak.
33:34
And I think the more that they speak about it, to heal it and
33:37
flip it is, the better that they become eventually by letting go
33:44
now. How do you feel so when you get
33:49
these people and you're doing like your counseling, but you're
33:53
also doing your PT and your and you're working on these bodies,
33:56
do you feel that the energies that they go back into could lay
34:01
to layaway them, like just push them back a little?
34:04
Do you feel that their surroundings are also playing a
34:08
contributing factor? I mean, 100% their surroundings,
34:12
their mental state, their energetic levels, you know,
34:15
where are they at at that point in life?
34:16
Absolutely it can. They can regress, they can
34:19
progress. I think it and and it's OK if
34:22
you take a step or two back in the process to take 3 or 4 steps
34:26
forward. But yeah, 100% absolutely.
34:30
You know, I did an eval on a patient this past week who was
34:34
he was discharged. Well, I don't know if he was
34:35
discharged from the military. He left voluntarily, but he had
34:39
an an injury recently and it kind of woke up, I guess, some
34:44
of the PTSD that he had had and he had recovered from.
34:48
So I think it's perfectly normal for these for, for the men and
34:53
women to have a little SEC and to embrace it and then move
34:57
forward, you know, with, with dignity class hope all that good
35:00
stuff. Absolutely.
35:03
I, I believe that there's trapped energy within that area
35:07
and I believe that no matter how much in the physical that we do,
35:12
the mental energy that we assess to the trauma has to be massaged
35:18
as well, has to, we have to move that energy out some way,
35:21
somehow. And I know on a smaller scale,
35:25
not on like a grandioso, but I know you do massage therapy as
35:29
well. I mean, that's part of physical
35:31
therapy. So yes, I am not a massage
35:33
therapist. I need everybody to understand
35:35
that. But we are taught how to do
35:37
manipulation of the soft tissue, whether it's through soft tissue
35:41
massage or stretching of the soft tissues, working with the
35:45
fascial system. So it's important to to realize
35:48
when I see a body come in front of me, I do look at the entire
35:51
body. I don't just look at the knee,
35:54
the leg, the shoulder, the breast that you know, And from
35:57
there I work with the physical body first.
36:00
When I get to a point where I am stumped and the patient is maybe
36:04
plateauing, then that's when I move into more of the energetics
36:08
and I say, OK, what is going on here?
36:11
What emotional blocks do we have?
36:13
What, what are we holding in the tissues that maybe I can help
36:17
the patient, the client maneuver and and release.
36:20
OK. So it is a very holistic
36:22
approach that I use and I want people to understand that.
36:26
But when I get to the point where physically I, I, I've
36:28
reached a, a stump, a block, then I do go to the energetics
36:32
100%. And we try to work through
36:34
whatever, you know, we, we hold trauma in our tissue, a lot of
36:38
trauma. Would you and you know what beta
36:42
like do I consider? Would you consider yourself more
36:44
like a beta health worker or a beta doctor?
36:49
What do you mean by beta doctor? Well, like Doctor Climus is more
36:52
of a beta where she doesn't necessarily just use
36:56
pharmaceutical. She doesn't like, I mean, we're
36:58
talking two different doctoring things here, but she's more
37:02
about using the mechanics of Earth or infrareds or salts in
37:09
order to heal the body in a more natural setting that the body is
37:14
used to. But trying to fix the body with
37:17
so much big pharma or nuclear medicines, it sometimes is a
37:23
real detriment to the body and it works backwards.
37:27
Yes. So I guess in the sense of the
37:29
physical realm, what I do, yes, I do.
37:33
I do look at and evaluate, you know, all of those things
37:37
because, you know, it's funny MJ that.
37:39
But over my career, especially in the last six years that I've
37:42
been working in oncology, I do see a relationship between
37:47
cancer and some type of past with emotional, mental,
37:53
sometimes physical trauma. And people do not realize that
37:57
we hold this stuff in our tissues and we have to find a
38:00
way to release it, let it go, work through it.
38:03
Because if not holding it in, it can manifest as so many
38:07
different things, as, you know, high blood pressure or
38:10
depression or cancer, whatever the case is, you know, So it's
38:15
absolutely critical that we look at the whole patient.
38:18
So yeah, I guess I am a potpourri, a mix of both,
38:20
Eastern, Western, if you want to put it that way.
38:23
Yeah, I and I know when you say things like when you it just
38:29
like here's my mind connecting the dots, connect the dots, la,
38:32
la, la. But when you say stuff like
38:34
that, I'm sure you and I don't know if you've, you've taken it,
38:38
but I do teach a frequencies course.
38:41
How is your body driving? And it's about music and it's
38:44
about the frequency. And when your core frequency,
38:48
when your body core frequency is 48 Hertz or lower, that's the
38:54
time. And when I see as a healer that
38:59
I see the people, they're cancer cells, they are or they are of
39:04
some dying Organism or disease that will take the body down
39:10
because your body core frequency is under 48 Hertz.
39:14
Now I'm curious, have you, have you done frequencies like
39:22
vibrational frequencies, tuning forks and stuff to bring
39:25
vibrations up? Do you do you take part and
39:28
stuff like that? I have not yet but it's on my
39:31
bucket list to become certified as a sound healer.
39:35
So it's funny but I am looking into courses because I know
39:38
there is a relationship between the the 2.
39:41
I do, yeah. So I I just find because even
39:47
humming like when I when I see people do through that kind of
39:52
course when I teach it, I always tell them about humming because
39:56
when you own are you hum, you're vibrating the whole system.
40:00
Do you believe in that? Yes, 100%.
40:03
It also elicits what we so it brings your body from that
40:08
flight or fight stage down to that parasympathetic rest and
40:12
digest stage. So yes, 100% I've actually told
40:15
patients to ohm just sit there and ohm find what whatever
40:19
frequency works for you, just do it.
40:21
And it has the scent, a way of bringing down that that your
40:25
system. Do you also use modalities like
40:29
EFT tapping for your clients? I have in the past.
40:33
I use it on myself as well, although sometimes I forget to
40:37
to work on myself like that. But yes, I have suggested that
40:40
as another modality for patients that is a hazard.
40:43
Of healers. Did you know that?
40:45
What's that? We don't, I said.
40:46
That's a hazardness of healers. We don't give ourselves, you
40:51
know that that opportunity to give ourselves downtime.
40:54
We are, we tend to be service of others, service to others
40:57
ingrained and we forget about us and that happens quite a bit.
41:02
But then you know what I do when I get to that point?
41:04
I call you. I either call you.
41:11
But that's why we're here, right?
41:13
A healer always needs, you know, we, I know.
41:15
Miss Kim calls it healer to healer and it's true.
41:19
You can only, you can only service others so much until you
41:22
got to step back. You have to step back and you
41:24
have to understand that that energy that you're working is
41:29
now going to affect you somehow and affecting us.
41:34
Now we have to have heal to heal.
41:35
We either have to have a total body cleansing, A detox,
41:38
something to remove. And it's not that it's a bad
41:42
thing. So any patient out there, I'm
41:43
not saying that. I'm saying that energy crosses
41:48
with everybody. It's kind of like the moon's
41:50
energy or it's the Earth's energy.
41:51
What we were talking about before I brought Gemma on.
41:54
These energies are frequency based patterns.
41:58
Believe it or not. You can feel the vibrations of
42:01
Earth, how it goes, whether it is in total chaos, whether it's
42:05
in. And this is what makes people
42:07
angry. This is what makes people use
42:10
their beautiful judgement and ego side of their voice.
42:13
This is where all of this stems from.
42:15
So when you're in pain, Gemma, what how do you practice with
42:21
your with your patients when they, they constantly are very
42:25
agitated, depressed, sad, just and and you know, it's by pain.
42:32
Oh boy, that's a loaded question because.
42:34
I'm so sorry. No, it's OK because I do try to,
42:39
yes, we do absorb some energies and it's, I've learned how to
42:43
sort of process it while my hands are on the patient.
42:47
But yes, there's the one or two that come in and it's a little
42:49
bit harder for me to resist that or allow it to just flow through
42:53
me and I absorb some of it. So one of the things that I do
42:56
and I tell my patients to do, as well as a lot of grounding, I
43:00
will. I love gardening, so I get my
43:01
hands dirty and I put it in Mother Earth and soil.
43:04
I love it. It's one of the best therapeutic
43:06
tools for me. But I also have a favorite tree
43:09
in my backyard. I think I've told you about
43:10
that. I like to sit on the roots or
43:12
against the tree or lay down under the tree and ground myself
43:17
too. So I find different ways the
43:18
sunlight is a great way for me to ground the ocean, you know,
43:22
and I do relay that message to my patients.
43:24
I tell them, get outside, sit outside, listen to the birds,
43:28
let the wind hit your face. It's, it's important for not
43:31
just me, but for the clients as well.
43:34
But I've gotten better as I'm in this and as I became a Reiki
43:37
practitioner, You guys help me understand that world of energy
43:41
and that how to process it and move it through so that I can be
43:44
a better service to others. Because I did hit a wall years
43:48
back working in a room for 11 hours a day under fluorescent
43:52
lighting, no windows working in the oncology realm.
43:56
It, it got a little bit to be too much, which is why I seeked
43:59
out your professional, you know, help as well.
44:02
And I'm so grateful to you and and Kimmy for.
44:04
That but we love you. We think that you are just one
44:07
beautiful Angel that walks to heal people.
44:09
So we're we're really happy to have met you and our energies
44:14
yet again met in this this beautiful state and glad we
44:18
found each other. We're going to go to a break
44:21
because I'm at that mark. So I think what we're going to
44:24
do is take a little break. We're going to go.
44:26
And this, this reminds me, her name is Jess Muse.
44:29
She is active duty. She is in the military.
44:34
And it's because it's the name is because you love me.
44:38
And it is about Bethesda Medical Center and healing others and
44:43
taking the time to love them. Not just heal them, but to love
44:47
them. And this is how I think of
44:49
Gemma. So you're listening to MB Radio
44:52
dot US. My name is MJ.
44:53
We're on with a beautiful guest. Her name is Gemma Lopez.
44:57
She is a physical therapist down in Homestead, FL and we'll be
45:04
talking to her and finishing our conversations with our rest of
45:08
our thing. But right now we're going to go
45:09
to Just Muse with Because You Love Me.
45:12
Remember, think of Gemma when you hear this.
45:15
Be right back. The station where our veterans
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50:00
There we come back. Man, that song, it is like
50:05
humbling. It is a every time I hear it, I
50:09
smile. I smile with such humility and
50:12
grace and thankfulness to know that there are so many people,
50:18
including our military, they fight for your freedom.
50:22
Our healers fight for your health.
50:25
Do you understand? It's just like one big round
50:27
Robin. And to actually bring and bridge
50:30
so many things, to be so beautiful and so close and so
50:34
healing. That song though, it can
50:37
emotionally get to us, but I think it emotionally gets to us
50:40
because of humility with grace. And I think it's like, thank
50:45
you. It is an answer to the prayer.
50:47
And that's all these people are looking for is help.
50:50
And when you can help in such a way to put a smile on any face
50:53
that has agony, pain, suffering or sadness, God love you.
50:57
Keep doing what you're doing. Because if nobody else sees it,
51:01
that man upstairs sees it, and that's all that matters, right?
51:05
You see it and that man sees it. And that divine of God will just
51:10
vibrate you to the epitome of such a pillar in society that
51:15
sooner or later those around you are going to be in awe of how
51:20
much you actually care. Because you do love them.
51:24
That's why I played that song for Miss Thank you.
51:28
There you have it. It brings, I think it, it sets
51:32
off something inside of me just because of gratitude.
51:35
I, I think it's more of a gratitude thing.
51:38
Like God, you picked me to do this for others, but in, in the
51:42
in the same realm, I get back from the people that I work
51:47
with. So it's, it is this beautiful
51:49
flow of give and receive. And I absolutely love what I do.
51:52
I've done it now for what, 30 plus years?
51:54
And I'm, I'm gonna continue. I'm not going anywhere.
51:58
And the more. That I learn the more you know,
52:01
I can offer other people and, and it's just beautiful.
52:04
It's beautiful. I believe that to be so true.
52:07
I honestly, Gemma, I think the world is just an oyster near the
52:11
Pearl. Honestly, I, I've never seen
52:14
somebody with the ability to OK, I, I said it.
52:17
You did like an X-ray machine going up.
52:19
It's right there. I'm like, Oh my God.
52:23
Yeah, that's it. That's it.
52:25
So. You know, it's, it's funny
52:26
because you and I have talked before in the past and I told
52:29
you that my hands are kind of like, it's like they're reading
52:32
Braille. When I work on a body, I, I can
52:35
focus where I'm not, I'm looking at you, but I'm not looking at
52:38
you. And I can feel the tissues,
52:40
whatever's underneath heat and I can kind of it, it's sort of, I
52:44
don't know, moves me in the direction of where I need to go.
52:48
And sometimes just because your symptom is a shoulder and arm,
52:51
it doesn't necessarily mean that that's where the dysfunction is.
52:54
So it's really looking deeper and, and I, I'm just so grateful
52:57
for what I do. I am.
52:58
What a gift, what a beautiful gift, a gift to humankind and a
53:03
gift to bridge. I'm just, I'm in awe.
53:05
So I want to dig further. So when you're working and
53:13
people are emotion, let's talk the emotional side of healing
53:18
when they get into these emotional drifts where we were
53:22
talking before break. I is there any physical thing
53:28
that one could do? Just pick, you know, pick a pick
53:33
a finger maybe because more people get their fingers hurt.
53:35
I think. So is there anything that for
53:40
that emotional pain, breath work maybe or massage it maybe or how
53:47
do we, how do we interact? Does reflexology work and do you
53:52
use reflexology to try to maintain that?
53:55
Can we discuss that a little bit?
53:57
Yeah, so it's funny because as soon as you said breath work,
54:00
when you're asking the question, the first thing I always teach
54:05
my patients is how to breathe. A lot of people don't know how
54:08
to breathe, just regular deep breathing, OK, because that can,
54:13
again, we talked about that fight or flight level of living
54:17
that we all live in and we have to bring the system down in
54:20
order for healing to, you know, occur.
54:23
So yes, if they have pain in an area, whether it's a finger, an
54:26
arm or whatever, I do teach them to breathe into that area as I'm
54:31
working on it. So I have them send nice
54:34
oxygenated blood flow to the area and I, I energetically work
54:39
there or I manipulate with my hands, soft tissue work,
54:41
whatever the case is. Another thing I'll do is I'll
54:44
have them use colors. I'll have them visualize certain
54:48
colors or you know, 'cause colors are also frequencies.
54:51
So if it's a healing, if I've, I'm working on somebody who's
54:54
got a a lot of resentment and anger and there's a liver issue
54:58
both in the physical realm and energetically, then I have them
55:01
push the color green to help with healing.
55:03
So there's different things that I will do.
55:07
Sometimes it's movement and have them move and sometimes they
55:10
move just subconsciously, you know, their bodies speak to what
55:13
it needs to do to unwind. Food.
55:16
I do a lot of work with faster the faster system, you know, And
55:19
as we are unwinding the faster system, it gets so bound down
55:23
through physical or emotional trauma as your eye am releasing
55:28
it. Then you'll see them move an arm
55:30
in a certain way or they start hammering in another part of
55:33
your body. Very interesting how the body
55:36
works. And then I incorporate the
55:39
breath work, the light work, whatever I'm called to, to have
55:43
them do at that time. That is so awesome.
55:46
So let me ask you. So when people go to you like
55:52
I'm just going to, I'm going to pick on Miss Kim, my sister.
55:56
So Shanna Frozen's shoulder, our calcium blew up, I guess inside
56:00
the shoulder. And they sent her to physical
56:02
therapy in New Jersey. And she's been going to physical
56:05
therapy. But she said after like the
56:08
first, I don't know, two weeks with using right frequencies and
56:13
using her modalities plus going to PT, she goes, I'm good, but
56:18
she still goes. So because they have given her X
56:21
amount of times to go to PT, so she still works on it.
56:26
The limits of PT on an injury. What is the like the longevity
56:32
if somebody is feeling good, Like I even have, I have, I
56:35
think I have 5 people in my room right now who are all in into a
56:38
physical therapy situation for a knee, a shoulder, a hip,
56:42
something. But they claim they're like, I
56:43
don't know why I'm going. I feel good.
56:45
It's, it's, I mean, it doesn't even bother me anymore.
56:47
What do you say to people who don't do the the six weeks or
56:52
the 8 weeks and they kind of stop because they feel good?
56:55
That's just a number that doctors love to give.
56:58
It's an average, but realistically, if I can get a
57:03
patient to 100% in five sessions or 90% or whatever, I don't keep
57:08
seeing them unless they want to come see me.
57:11
Especially if they're a patient who's paying cash.
57:13
I don't, you know my thing. If they want to come back or
57:18
they they need a refresher or a maintenance, then they'll come
57:20
back. But yeah, if you can resolve the
57:22
issue within four or five, six sessions, then there's really no
57:26
need to come back. I think patients stay because
57:29
maybe part of it is fear that it's going to come back again or
57:32
it's going to get worse. But you know, I try to resolve.
57:35
I try to kind of calm their fears.
57:39
Right. Yeah, but no, there's no need if
57:41
if you can get fixed in six sessions and the doctor orders
57:44
12, you don't have to stay around, right?
57:48
You know. Well, I just because I it's
57:50
funny, I2 or three of them I hear are going.
57:54
You know what it I just, I'm just going to go because I'm
57:58
still going. But yet you hear them rumbling.
58:01
I got a farmer friend up here. He's like, I got to go.
58:05
I don't know. He goes, I don't care.
58:06
I don't have pain. But you know, they had me
58:09
scheduled and I was like, well, you should talk to your
58:12
therapist and I go. If you truly don't believe you
58:15
need it, I go because there's something keeping you there.
58:18
So what is it emotional support? Is it, you know, that type of
58:23
physical support that you don't think you can do this at home on
58:26
your own? What?
58:28
What is keeping you attached? That's a big, that's a big
58:32
subject right there because there are many, many patients,
58:36
clients that feel, I want to say an emotional attachment.
58:41
It's like AI guess having a crutch maybe.
58:45
And they feel like they don't want to let go of that, that
58:48
connection, that bond. And and you know, we do, we are
58:50
in a, in a field of making people feel better and it's,
58:54
it's they, they like that. So I I guess, yeah, there can be
58:57
that emotional attachment for some people, or some people are
59:01
like, Saenara, I'm out of here. You have tortured me enough.
59:06
I'm at. That you want to do 6 sessions
59:09
on me? Why so many?
59:10
So, you know, there's so many different personalities out
59:12
there. Yeah, yeah, I, I agree with
59:15
that. Like, I know that when I had to
59:17
work on my neuromas, it was painful.
59:19
I dreaded I love you, but I dread.
59:22
I was like, yeah, I'm in so much pain, I need to do this.
59:25
Kind of like going to the dentist.
59:26
It's like I don't want this pain.
59:28
Hey don't don't compare me to the dentist.
59:32
I hate dentist. Sorry guys if we're dentist.
59:35
I'm sorry. We are not dentists.
59:38
We're in the fashion of yes, you, you will feel a little
59:41
physical pain at times, but I always tell them there's good
59:44
pain and there's bad pain, so. Dentist is bad pain.
59:48
Yes. Well, kind of yes and no.
59:51
Poor people are on dentist like. Hey, yeah, exactly, of course.
59:55
That's trauma from the 70s dentistries.
59:59
Same here, I'm traumatized because I had so many cavities
1:00:02
as a kid but we. Digress.
1:00:06
Cavities. No Novocaine, It's just, well,
1:00:10
that's another show. That's another emotional show.
1:00:13
But OK. So now we're talking about other
1:00:15
different doctors or professions.
1:00:18
So do you see the same as like, And I'm Privy to it because I
1:00:24
could take my blood pressure at my house and it's always like
1:00:27
117 / 72. Like it's, it's decent.
1:00:32
I get there. It's like 125 / 80.
1:00:35
I'm like, OK, that's white coat. That's called white coat
1:00:38
something. Yeah, that white coat syndrome.
1:00:41
Yeah, you're right. And there are.
1:00:44
Absolutely. Because there's such a stigma
1:00:46
like the old PT was, you know, no pain, no gain.
1:00:49
And I've even had ex military come in and say to my face, no
1:00:53
pain, no gain. And I'm like, well, yeah, but no
1:00:56
pain is good. But pain can be a guide as to
1:01:00
are we doing something right or are we doing something wrong?
1:01:02
There's bad pain and good pain. So yes, you're right about that.
1:01:06
I love that and I'd love to see because I, I can't even imagine
1:01:10
the reconstruction, especially from the burnt like the, the
1:01:13
bomb burns of the face or the body.
1:01:17
I think, and I'm going to make you the giggle here, but
1:01:21
something I remember as a child, I was, I think I had to be in
1:01:27
8th or 9th grade. I was a candy striper and my mom
1:01:30
was, I think she was hell bent on me to be like this physical
1:01:33
therapist because somehow in candy striping I always found
1:01:36
myself in the PT department. The worst cries that I ever
1:01:41
heard were from the burn. The burn side.
1:01:43
Yeah. And I looked at my mom, I go, I,
1:01:48
I'm not sure I could do that. I, I'm not.
1:01:51
And the guy who was there, his name was Fozna and we call him
1:01:54
Fozzie. And he went to school with my
1:01:57
brother. And so it was kind of like being
1:02:00
able to associate somebody doing a job.
1:02:03
But as a child, I remembered that, and I remembered the
1:02:07
horror. And I remember like going, God,
1:02:12
God love the people who knows that it has to be done and
1:02:18
understand that that empathy has to stay aside and that that's
1:02:22
hard. I think that's very difficult,
1:02:26
especially somebody who is so multi with modality healer like
1:02:31
yourself. Do you feel that way with some
1:02:34
stuff like that or how do you how do you remove yourself from
1:02:38
stuff like that? By not going into the burn unit
1:02:41
area. I, I, so when I first came out
1:02:46
in the field in 94 and I worked in, in a rehab center, physical
1:02:50
rehabilitation center, I worked on spinal cord injuries,
1:02:53
amputees, burn victims. We did it all back then as
1:02:57
physical therapists. Now you kind of have more
1:02:59
specialties just like I think medicine as well doctors.
1:03:03
So now you have therapists who work strictly with burns,
1:03:06
therapists who work strictly with brain injuries or whatnot.
1:03:09
And that's how I can't. There's no way.
1:03:12
I did it for a very short, I did it for one year and we had a
1:03:15
lineman, for instance, who was electrocuted and it went through
1:03:19
both hands and through the, the head and face.
1:03:22
And it was not pleasant for obviously the patient.
1:03:26
But I, I realized very quickly it was an area of therapy that
1:03:30
he did not want to go into. It takes somebody extremely
1:03:34
special to do that work. It really does.
1:03:37
It's just the caring and the love and the healing that they
1:03:40
can give without the that is that's an incredible task.
1:03:46
There is a point where you have to learn how to sort of block
1:03:49
that because I'm very empathic and I, I sometimes when a
1:03:53
patient is, you know, expressing their pain and, and they're
1:03:57
crying or I sometimes get hit with that cord and I have to put
1:04:00
a block up. It's very important for me to do
1:04:03
that. Those diamonds, they always want
1:04:05
to come those diamonds, but that is, I mean, how can you not feel
1:04:13
empathy for that pain that that is, that is a lot of pain that
1:04:19
and I'm just talking because I'm here on MBR, but I understand
1:04:22
there's more first responders, especially my firefighter
1:04:25
friends who are first responders the the police who go in those
1:04:29
burning buildings. My God, I I like my heart when I
1:04:35
see. And, you know, even when I burn
1:04:38
a little blister on my own finger, you know, I'm thinking
1:04:40
I'm dying, hurt my finger. Can you?
1:04:45
I just. I can't even imagine being
1:04:49
tortured by at the stake when they would burn people at the
1:04:52
stake. I can't.
1:04:54
That has to be the most horrific death because you burn from the
1:04:58
insides as well. And it.
1:05:00
It is. Yeah, I didn't mean to bring
1:05:03
that in. That's a that's depressing.
1:05:05
But I I can't. And I know that's part of
1:05:08
physical therapy and OT. Yeah.
1:05:10
And nursing. Yeah.
1:05:12
Because doesn't the skin or something have to What is it
1:05:16
the, the the collagen? Is it the collagen in the skin
1:05:19
that makes it elasticity? Yeah.
1:05:21
And it just depends on how deep the burns are, what, what level
1:05:24
are they at, you know, And when you get all the way down to the
1:05:27
meat underneath your muscle, your fascia, the nerve endings,
1:05:31
everything suffers and it's very painful.
1:05:34
And yeah, so they do get a lot of scar tissue with burns.
1:05:37
And there's a whole other world and realm.
1:05:39
Medically they can release the fascia and all that, but it's
1:05:41
it's so it's very complicated and painful.
1:05:45
For our brothers. And so we're going to we're
1:05:47
going to step away from the burn unit.
1:05:49
I want to go to the amputees. So can you describe for the
1:05:54
viewers who are either the amputees who haven't gone into
1:05:58
PT yet or those who are caregivers to people who are
1:06:02
empty TS? How, what's the process to go
1:06:07
into physical therapy to get them up on those prosthetics?
1:06:10
How how far do they have to heal surgically?
1:06:14
Like what is the prep for that if any?
1:06:18
So MJ, you're asking me a question in a field that I
1:06:22
really don't work in any anymore.
1:06:24
I mean, it was like 30 years ago that I did that.
1:06:27
But there is a process that they have to go through with just
1:06:29
healing the surgery. First of all, that's first and
1:06:32
foremost that that incision has got to heal before they can
1:06:36
actually start putting weight through.
1:06:39
You know, I'll have to refer you to one of my friends who does
1:06:42
work in that run. No, I'm sorry.
1:06:43
I thought when we talked about it, you could give a dynamic for
1:06:47
some of these veterans who are going through the process I was
1:06:50
just in. 30 years, 30 years that I worked on it.
1:06:53
So sorry, no. And I, I mean, there's always
1:06:56
information out there for, for people definitely, you know, but
1:07:00
it is a process. It takes many, many months to
1:07:03
eventually get on a prosthetic and start moving.
1:07:05
It is possible though. There's people that run
1:07:07
marathons and whatnot with these prosthetics, so it's pretty
1:07:10
amazing what they've come to now.
1:07:12
Absolutely. But like you said, the reason I
1:07:14
was bringing it up is because I'm sure there's something that
1:07:17
because, and I just know from coming in and out of
1:07:20
wheelchairs, I have to condition my own body how to go forward,
1:07:26
not having parts and pieces that I normally would.
1:07:29
So it's reconditioning the muscle movements or
1:07:32
reconditioning the mind into being able to keep moving
1:07:36
forward. And that's kind of where I was
1:07:38
going to go with it because the mind, I believe controls all
1:07:42
throughout healing. And there's, there's.
1:07:46
I mean, even even if we're talking about like burns, breast
1:07:50
cancer survivors, they go through, I mean, I have some
1:07:53
that have like 3536 radiation sessions that's, it's charred,
1:07:57
there's blisters, there's, I mean, it's a horrific, horrific
1:08:01
thing to see, but it's horrific for the clients to go through.
1:08:05
So, and then the loss of the of the breasts as well, you know,
1:08:09
like an amputee, they go through that phantom limb, that grieving
1:08:12
process of losing something that was theirs.
1:08:14
I had a patient that get. Pain.
1:08:16
I still get those phantom pains every once in a while.
1:08:19
And I'm, I mean, I'm 2010 so I'm 15 years out.
1:08:24
Is that still plausible? Very much so.
1:08:27
Yeah, How does that go away if it's Phantom?
1:08:30
I don't know that it necessarily does.
1:08:32
I mean, I had a patient the other day that was telling me
1:08:35
she's probably about 14 years out of her mastectomy.
1:08:39
And she says when she gets cold and not to get into detail, but
1:08:41
she says she still feels her, her, her nipple, but there's no,
1:08:45
there's no breast and she feels it.
1:08:47
So it's, you know, 14 years out. I, I don't know if that ever
1:08:51
goes away. For some people.
1:08:53
I, I imagine it does. And for a few that are that are
1:08:55
a little bit more on the sensitive side maybe, maybe it's
1:08:58
stays with them forever. I think everything with the joke
1:09:01
within because I I have to, I have to find a way to laugh.
1:09:06
I have to find a way to smile through it.
1:09:09
So up here in Pennsylvania, that was a commie.
1:09:11
It's funny you said that because I go, babe, I'm so cold.
1:09:14
My nipples are hard. And he'll go, I see that.
1:09:21
Let's go inside. Like he'll just he'll just play,
1:09:24
you know? And it basically I lost is what
1:09:26
it is, right? Because yeah, there's.
1:09:29
But when she. Told me that I was like, wow,
1:09:30
this is crazy. You know, all these years later,
1:09:33
and I mean, how many years has it been for you?
1:09:36
About 15 now, OK. Well, there you go.
1:09:38
I had a 2000 and September 2009 is when they removed it and put
1:09:44
the bracers in and by 2011 I was completely I was done with the
1:09:52
reconstruction side, but 2012 they had to do OK.
1:10:00
When they say that we're going to what's the word that you I
1:10:05
have to think of it. They use the word, but it's
1:10:07
basically lip destruction shape. That's they're going to shape
1:10:11
it. That was 2012.
1:10:13
They're just we're just going to shape it now.
1:10:15
Not to worry not that hurt worse I think than the whole just
1:10:19
removing of the breast and I was like never again.
1:10:23
I don't know who does stuff like this, but I can't do it.
1:10:26
I can't. I can't.
1:10:28
I've had patients tell me that that the reconstructive part
1:10:31
afterwards gave them more pain than the actual initial surgery
1:10:35
and trauma of the removal of the breast and the breast tissue.
1:10:38
I did. I didn't even put my nipples on
1:10:40
for 10 years. Yep.
1:10:42
I've so I've only been with nipple on the on the mastectomy
1:10:46
for about 5 years and I just, it was like I could never
1:10:52
understand it. In fact, I went through a lot of
1:10:54
emotion because I would see women who would get breast lifts
1:10:57
not an issue. There's no and I'm thinking to
1:10:59
myself, why would you do that? Why would you manipulate?
1:11:04
Like I'm thinking of the pain that I am in and I'm thinking
1:11:08
these people and the one girl I was going through it, I
1:11:10
literally had bars in my chest. And this waitress, I'll never
1:11:15
forget her, came over in Homestead.
1:11:17
She and she goes, Oh my God, you're so lucky.
1:11:19
She goes I, I go tomorrow, she goes to get my money makers.
1:11:24
Wow. Talk about perspective, right?
1:11:28
And I'm like, I literally had to drop my head and I like, I
1:11:32
really, I had to breathe because I wanted to punch her.
1:11:38
I was full of anger. And I was like, where's this
1:11:40
anger coming from? Why do I have someone who gives
1:11:43
a shit if she wants that? And I would talk to, of course,
1:11:46
Ozzy. And he goes, yeah, you're really
1:11:48
getting bent out of shape for something that women do all the
1:11:50
time. I'm like, I know.
1:11:52
Why am I doing this? Well, you, you come.
1:11:56
From a very different perspective, like yours was a
1:11:58
survival, you know, a survival surgery.
1:12:00
You had to do this for survival. Your life depended on it when
1:12:05
you did the mastectomy and all that, you know the initiation.
1:12:08
So it's. Different perspectives.
1:12:11
Yeah, I know it caused me a lot of emotional like it.
1:12:14
It really it was one of those things I think that took me
1:12:17
quite a long time to even just want to talk about it.
1:12:21
Like I think is when I actually did the nipples.
1:12:24
I went all around college square going look, look, look what man
1:12:28
gave me. Look what man did.
1:12:34
I had a patient who went in and did the reconstruction just
1:12:37
about, I don't know, two months ago.
1:12:38
And she came in and she was so proud to show me the work that
1:12:41
was done. I mean, some of these women go
1:12:44
without breast tissue for five years or more, and then they
1:12:47
have the reconstruction done and they feel like, you know, women
1:12:50
again, so different. It's very different.
1:12:53
Yeah. Even with the pain and the
1:12:55
trauma, but you know. Right.
1:12:57
But it's it's really. So let's, since we're talking
1:13:00
about it, how important because obviously I had to learn the
1:13:03
hard way. the VA never did the physical therapy afterwards.
1:13:07
How important is that in reality for the the the perfect outcome
1:13:12
is how I want to say it. You know, in a perfect world,
1:13:16
what I would do is I would want to see the patient before they
1:13:18
have the surgery so I can take measurements and see where their
1:13:21
baselines are. That's the perfect world.
1:13:23
One visit before and then go through the surgery, the
1:13:27
radiation, the chemo, whatever. But I think every woman should
1:13:30
be referred to physical therapy or at least a lymphedema
1:13:33
therapist to do an assessment 1st.
1:13:36
And then if we we see that OK there everything is fine.
1:13:39
We do a few sessions, we release you, discharge you, but at least
1:13:41
we can educate the patient on what are the signs and symptoms
1:13:46
of things may be getting worse. Is your shoulder freezing up
1:13:49
now? Are you not able to reach up
1:13:51
where you were before? Are you noticing swelling in
1:13:53
your hand or in the breasts for lymphedema purposes?
1:13:57
I mean, at least if we could get you guys in and educate
1:14:00
patients, I think it would make give them a sense of control, of
1:14:04
control over what you know, what has happened to them and educate
1:14:08
them. I think education is number one
1:14:10
that really helps people feel like they have better control of
1:14:13
their situation. But I think everybody should go
1:14:15
through and have at least an assessment after surgery.
1:14:19
So I'm glad we're talking about this because a lot of people
1:14:23
don't know what lip edema is. Can you explain that?
1:14:26
Lymphedema, there's two things, lipedema and lymphedema.
1:14:29
So lymphedema when a, let's just go back to breast cancer, but it
1:14:33
can apply to head and neck cancers as well.
1:14:36
When there's let's go ahead and neck cancer, when you have a, an
1:14:39
incision from ear to ear to pull out lymph nodes that are
1:14:43
potentially cancerous, then they close you up.
1:14:46
You have the scar tissue that cuts through your lymphatic
1:14:49
channels. So your lymph system can't,
1:14:54
can't mobilize the fluid from here to here as well.
1:14:57
Then you throw in 30 radiation sessions where you burn the skin
1:15:01
and the tissues underneath your nerve endings, your vasculature.
1:15:05
Sometimes that also now compromises your lymphatics
1:15:09
because it cannot move the fluid from 1 area to the other.
1:15:12
They start to notice swelling in the face, maybe the tongue, the
1:15:16
mouth. And so that's where we come in
1:15:19
and we teach the patient about how to care and manage that
1:15:22
stuff. But it's basically there's
1:15:24
something in the lymphatic system that's compromised,
1:15:27
whether it's surgery, radiation, lymph nodes that have been
1:15:30
removed. And that's where we kind of come
1:15:31
into play. I even I've, I've dealt with,
1:15:34
you know, unfortunately for the patient, genital lymphedema, leg
1:15:38
lymphedema, arm, trunk, head and neck.
1:15:41
It's been from, you know, basically head to toe.
1:15:49
Oh. Where's MJH?
1:16:05
I you're pulling a Houdini on me.
1:16:10
You disappeared. I was like everything in the
1:16:14
everything just like blanked out.
1:16:16
It was kind of like, oh, solar flares possibly.
1:16:21
Like, Oh no, you did not just do this to me.
1:16:25
I didn't know if I was still on. I didn't know if I should talk
1:16:27
and become the the DJ, the host or what.
1:16:31
Yeah. So.
1:16:33
I think that was a thing going MJ need to break, so I got to
1:16:36
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1:16:39
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all. So before we were talking about
1:21:33
lipedema, right, lymphedema, lymphedema.
1:21:37
Yeah, OK. There is a lipedema that I also
1:21:39
treat, but it's different than. Lymphedema So now you are
1:21:44
talking about the swelling of the lymph nodes.
1:21:46
So before I had my breasts done, medical miracle Mary Jo is they
1:21:50
took out my cervix, my uterus, my fallopian.
1:21:54
They took everything out down there.
1:21:56
And then I started realizing that in excessive walks or
1:22:02
excessive sitting, I started having swelling in my lower
1:22:05
extremities. Is that all part of that Gemma?
1:22:10
Because I didn't have it? Probably, I was going to say
1:22:13
it's probably signs and symptoms that something is not kosher and
1:22:18
it needs to be checked out. So yeah, it doesn't always.
1:22:23
So I have had patients in with swollen lymph nodes, but within
1:22:26
a week it resolves. So it's also.
1:22:28
Looking at my feet like I'll get swollen feet, swollen ankles.
1:22:31
Just swelling in general. I thought you meant lymph nodes.
1:22:34
OK, so you were getting. Nodes that I'm aware of, but it
1:22:38
is, but it's ever since I've had that surgery, I I that becomes
1:22:44
like sitting too much, standing too much walking too much, like
1:22:48
all of the and they'll just start to swell.
1:22:51
So that could be related to. So lymphedema doesn't
1:22:55
necessarily mean it has to be related to cancer, right?
1:22:57
It also can be associated with vascular system.
1:23:02
So as our vascular system sort of ages, right, it's a nice way
1:23:07
to say it, our lymphatic system can also age and it doesn't
1:23:11
function as well. It tries to, you know,
1:23:13
complement the, the deficiencies in your blood flowing.
1:23:17
So it tries to overcompensate, but then you end up with the
1:23:20
lymphatics getting tired and now you end up with the feet
1:23:23
starting to swell, the lower leg swelling.
1:23:26
But it could be related more to just the vasculature kind of not
1:23:29
functioning at 100% anymore rather than the history of
1:23:33
cancer. All right, I was only 32 years
1:23:36
old and I remember after healing and getting out of the
1:23:40
wheelchairs because obviously I'm a double complication here,
1:23:43
but that's when I started realizing that swelling.
1:23:47
But when I would, you know, I'd Reiki it and then I'd put my
1:23:51
feet up. I'd I'd pack them and then it
1:23:54
would go away and I wouldn't have another issue because I am
1:23:56
not somebody who either sits like I'm never a prolong sitter
1:24:00
prolong stand. I'm just not I get up and move
1:24:04
and it doesn't really happen unless I'm on long road trips.
1:24:07
Now I find it when I'm on long road trips.
1:24:09
I find it my hiking boots when I when I tie them tight, I don't I
1:24:14
don't really see, I see it more in my, my calves and my shins.
1:24:17
So I'm just curious. It wasn't, it was an anomaly
1:24:21
because they knew that it was seeded with cancer cells, but it
1:24:25
hadn't like it was almost like a preventative, right?
1:24:29
I'm going to say that because I didn't need chemo, I didn't
1:24:34
need, I didn't need anything. They gave me something called
1:24:38
Xeloda and they just removed everything.
1:24:40
So I'm like, even if you don't have an oncology issue that
1:24:46
there still could be these, these problems with these
1:24:48
surgeries. That's 100%.
1:24:51
Yes, yes, absolutely. And surgery can contribute to
1:24:56
the dysfunction of your lymphatic system too.
1:24:59
But keep in mind your lymphatic system is part of your immune
1:25:02
system and we can have blockages in our immune system, so in our
1:25:07
lymphatic system. So then in that case you can go
1:25:11
see a massage therapist who is a licensed lymphatic.
1:25:16
I don't want to say like they're certified to do lymphatic
1:25:21
massage on a healthy system. So that would be 1 alternative
1:25:25
to to go get a lymphatic massage by a licensed massage therapist
1:25:29
to help. You know, so if we don't know
1:25:31
the reason, would it be better to come to a licensed physical
1:25:34
therapist practitioner for them to advise them to go to
1:25:38
somebody? You're good to see a certified
1:25:41
lymphedema therapist. So anybody that has ACLT behind
1:25:45
their name, that means they've done the rigorous training and
1:25:48
it is a lot of training, let me tell you.
1:25:50
So it can be an occupational therapy, a physical therapist, a
1:25:53
speech therapist, and even like in some class therapy and have
1:25:57
that PLT behind it. So as long as they have that,
1:26:01
you can go get an assessment. But if something really concerns
1:26:05
you and you're not on top of that, you're feeling fatigued,
1:26:08
you're feeling pain, you're, I mean, so many other symptoms, I
1:26:12
would go see your medical or doctor at that point.
1:26:16
Done one or two lymphatic massages and still not feeling
1:26:19
progress right? But does that ever go away?
1:26:23
Or is it something that just constantly has to be drained?
1:26:27
If it is a compromised lymphatic system, it's probably something
1:26:31
that you're going to have to manage and keep from progressing
1:26:34
'cause there are stages of lymphedema.
1:26:37
And if you don't stay in that stage one phase where like you
1:26:40
say, you go to bed or you raise up your legs, your legs the next
1:26:43
morning look great. That would be considered, you
1:26:45
know, stage one, you're in the early stages.
1:26:48
But if you go to bed and your feet still wake up swollen, then
1:26:52
you've now progressed into stage 2.
1:26:55
So then you can use compression socks, elevate your legs, use a
1:26:59
pump, get lymphatic massages. But there's got to be a reason
1:27:02
behind why it's happening. Something's something's causing
1:27:05
the dysfunction. Is it more like a blockage or
1:27:08
more like it's too thin now with the surgeries it can't get
1:27:11
through, I mean. All the above.
1:27:14
All the above. Genetic is is it plausible it
1:27:18
could be a genetic thing at a certain.
1:27:20
Age. So there is something we call
1:27:22
primary lymphedema and some kids are born with it and you can see
1:27:26
that there's an obvious difference between 1 limb size
1:27:29
and the other. Or it's something that after,
1:27:31
let's say you hit your, your menstruation cycle starts.
1:27:35
It can start then or it's something that can be in the
1:27:37
30s, something in the 30s as well.
1:27:39
But yes, it would be considered that they have to differentiate
1:27:42
if it's primary or secondary lymphedema.
1:27:44
Secondary lymphedema can also come from trauma, by the way.
1:27:47
If you have like a knee surgery or you've been, you know, in war
1:27:52
and you suffered some injury to the leg, you can develop
1:27:56
secondary lymphedema from that as well.
1:27:59
It's a big, it's a big umbrella of things that people are not
1:28:02
aware of. Wow, and now what's the
1:28:04
difference between the two? Between primary and secondary.
1:28:08
No lymphedema and lymphedema. So lymphedema has to do with the
1:28:12
lymphatic system. Lipedema is an abnormal fat
1:28:16
adipose cells, your fat cells, they grow abnormally and they
1:28:20
cause deposits in your hips, your thighs, your buttocks, your
1:28:23
belly. It affects mostly women more
1:28:27
than men and it can just be in certain area of that hip and
1:28:31
thigh region or it can go all the way down to the ankles.
1:28:34
It can also affect some women's arms as well.
1:28:37
But it's people that you'll see these sort of, we call them
1:28:41
lobular growths, but they look like there's just this big
1:28:45
deposit of fat in one area. But it's actually an, an
1:28:48
abnormality in the body and it has to be diagnosed.
1:28:51
You know, it has to be diagnosed.
1:28:52
But there's a lot of people walking around with it.
1:28:54
I'll see them in the grocery stores and I'm like, oh, that
1:28:56
person has lipedema. They have no clue.
1:28:59
I've even diagnosed patients that were in my office that
1:29:02
didn't know that they had it and then referred them out.
1:29:05
Now does the skin dimple like a Cellulite?
1:29:08
Yes, and you'll feel little kind of grains of sand underneath the
1:29:12
skin or little nodules, bumps, lumps.
1:29:15
They're usually painful. You'll notice that they get
1:29:18
bruising very easily, these people as well.
1:29:22
And then sometimes it can come with lymphedema as a secondary
1:29:25
result of having lipedema for so long.
1:29:28
It stresses the lymphatic system out.
1:29:29
So then you can be somebody who's combined has them both.
1:29:33
Do you know of anybody who has completely cured their body of
1:29:36
it? With help, obviously.
1:29:41
If they are in the early stages, yes, I think the longer people
1:29:46
go without being diagnosed and treated, the more difficult it
1:29:50
is to see them go back a stage or two.
1:29:55
Got you. And how I mean, it could be such
1:29:57
severe that they can't even walk on the legs.
1:30:00
I've seen them. Yeah, it's very.
1:30:03
Painful. I have patients when I was at
1:30:06
the university that were in, they were wheelchair bound.
1:30:09
You know, it feels, just imagine putting a backpack of, you know,
1:30:12
30 or 40 lbs on each leg or sometimes more and carrying that
1:30:16
throughout your day and over the years getting worse.
1:30:20
And if you're not seeing the right practitioner, definitely
1:30:24
getting worse. And then it just progresses to
1:30:26
the point where people are in wheelchairs.
1:30:28
Is it? Can it be genetic Gemma?
1:30:32
Yes. So that that would be the
1:30:33
primary lymphedema that they're either born with or well,
1:30:36
everybody's born with it. If you have primary lymphedema,
1:30:39
it's just what stage of your life does it start to manifest?
1:30:43
Got you. And how do they detect it?
1:30:46
Like what would be one of the first signs that somebody could
1:30:48
say, let me just go get tested or how how would they go get
1:30:51
tested? Most of the time people say, Oh,
1:30:55
my feet and my legs are swelling and they feel heavy and they
1:30:58
don't really do anything. And surprisingly, they'll go to
1:31:01
their cardiologist and the cardiologist checks the heart
1:31:04
and everything looks good. They do the the ultrasounds of
1:31:07
the legs and the venous system looks good too.
1:31:10
And then so it also comes to the point where the practitioners
1:31:13
are not necessarily educated and know that these patients can be
1:31:18
referred out to physical therapists or therapists like
1:31:20
myself or certified. And then the sooner we can treat
1:31:24
them and educate them on how to care for it, the better the
1:31:27
outcome is going to be for them and their quality of life and
1:31:29
bruise. But many times it comes down to
1:31:32
multiple doctors missing the diagnosis.
1:31:36
Even so, if the doctors can't even diagnose, how are the
1:31:39
patients going to do it? Many of them look online, start
1:31:42
Googling Dr. Google, which is not recommended.
1:31:45
And they'll come to me and they'll call me and say I think
1:31:48
I have lymphedema. So they'll come in for an
1:31:50
assessment and then I'm like, yeah, it looks like you have the
1:31:53
swelling, you have pitting edema, which is I'll put my
1:31:56
thumb into the leg and the the imprint of my thumb stays.
1:32:00
So they have a thickening of the skin sometimes because the
1:32:03
fluid's been sitting there so long.
1:32:06
Dry skin, thick skin, you know, a lot of things that we look
1:32:10
for. And then that's when I make the
1:32:12
the referrals out. We have, we had a great doctor
1:32:14
at the University of Miami that did surgeries for these
1:32:17
patients. I think he already left though,
1:32:20
and he moved up to Virginia area.
1:32:21
But they're they're around, the lymphatic specialists are
1:32:24
around. So you can always look to them
1:32:26
for an assessment. So they could actually have a
1:32:29
surgery to rectify that. They're in the process of trying
1:32:33
to undo the damage to the lymphatic structures.
1:32:38
So what they're doing now is they're taking these lymphatic
1:32:42
vessels and they're connecting them to veins so that the
1:32:46
drainage can occur. They're doing lymph node
1:32:49
transplants. So my breast cancer patients,
1:32:52
they take lymph nodes from either the supraclavicular or
1:32:55
the inguinal, which is right by the groin.
1:32:57
They transplant it into the armpit to help the arm drain as
1:33:01
well. So there's a lot of things with
1:33:03
that there's. Caused issues in those other
1:33:05
areas then if they had it once. Nope.
1:33:08
They're only moving like 2-2 to three lymph nodes, if that.
1:33:13
Yeah. And then they do what they call
1:33:15
the bypass. They'll attach the the lymphatic
1:33:17
structure to the veins to also help with the drainage.
1:33:20
I mean, I've seen it and it typically right now they're
1:33:23
doing it mostly in the arms. That's where they're having the
1:33:25
most success with it. And I've worked with these
1:33:28
patients who are post op and seen them through and my
1:33:31
goodness, what a difference. Wow, Yeah, that's amazing.
1:33:35
That's so. Amazing.
1:33:36
It it's it's crazy. Science is crazy.
1:33:38
You know, we're only starting to understand the lymphatics and
1:33:43
they're starting to do more and more research now.
1:33:45
Tony likes in. Chapter 20 or only in Chapter 1?
1:33:49
It's just the beginning. They're going to come up with
1:33:51
better things in the future. I know it.
1:33:53
So for those who have it, just be patient, huh?
1:33:56
I said that even sounds amazing that they can do stuff like
1:33:59
that. No, but it is your eggplant.
1:34:03
Yes, but it's very difficult. It's like a needle in a haystack
1:34:05
to find people that do what I do with the CLT behind their name,
1:34:10
and then to find that lymphatic specialist, the doctors who
1:34:12
specialize in the stuff, It's very difficult, but you can go
1:34:17
to the National Lymphedema Network and there you can find
1:34:20
practitioners of all kinds, whether it's PTOT, speech.
1:34:25
I don't think we'll try to spell that 'cause, you know, I'm
1:34:27
horrific. But if you put it in the in the
1:34:29
chat, Gemma, I will make sure that it's underneath there
1:34:33
because that is really, really important.
1:34:35
You see the people who walk around with their legs just
1:34:38
completely inflamed or one arm inflamed, and you just just want
1:34:42
to so badly, you know, get them to help them.
1:34:45
There it is. Let me just kind of transfer
1:34:47
this over and, well, I don't need all of that.
1:34:51
Hello. So yeah.
1:34:54
But it's definitely a good resource.
1:34:56
And then there is also for those who think they, may they, they
1:34:59
may be suffering from lipedema, I'm going to send you Lipedema
1:35:04
Foundation. It's another great resource to
1:35:07
look into. You can find practitioners you
1:35:09
can find, just educate yourself on it.
1:35:13
And again, it can be. I'm sorry, sorry.
1:35:16
Yeah, I was going to say again, it can be from trauma.
1:35:18
It doesn't necessarily mean it's just from, you know, cancerous
1:35:21
diagnosis. It can be from physical trauma
1:35:24
and accident, you know? Yeah.
1:35:27
You can get wartime injuries. I mean, here you are that you
1:35:31
know, you're you're destroyed the lymphatics, you know, not
1:35:35
you. But personally, I'm just saying
1:35:37
the injury in itself had can cause these types of issues
1:35:41
going forward. Yes, right now what about into
1:35:45
the brain? What about the brain?
1:35:49
I said what about like the lymph nodes of the like I know you
1:35:53
have like all these lymph nodes throughout here.
1:35:56
So does the does the lipedema ever backlog into the brain?
1:36:02
To where it causes the brain to swell.
1:36:05
The great thing about anybody with head and neck issues that
1:36:08
has lymphedema in this area, gravity is our friend in this
1:36:12
case. Whereas if you have it in the
1:36:14
leg, gravity is not your friend because you have to fight
1:36:16
gravity to push that fluid up. But up here, if you have
1:36:19
lymphedema here, gravity helps to just kind of pull all that
1:36:23
fluid down. The the foe or the enemy is.
1:36:25
When you go to sleep at night though, and you lay down flat,
1:36:28
everything can backlog up, but it usually effects mostly the
1:36:32
face, the tongue, the mouth, the internal structures of your
1:36:36
throat, sometimes more so than the brain.
1:36:39
But they science has found we have lymphatics in the brain.
1:36:42
Anywhere you basically have blood flow, you're going to have
1:36:45
lymphatics that can be compromised.
1:36:48
There is a doctor that's doing some research on Alzheimer's and
1:36:52
lymphatics. If there are blockages here,
1:36:55
whether it's the narrowing of the lymphatics or mostly that's
1:36:59
what they're looking at, they're attributing possibly that
1:37:03
Alzheimer's and some of those cognitive decline diagnosis, you
1:37:07
know, can be related to that. So they're getting surgeries to
1:37:11
see if that can can help alleviate that situation.
1:37:15
So what I was thinking is, is it plausible?
1:37:20
Like my mom had bleeding in the brain and they actually had to
1:37:27
do a craniolectomy, craniectomy or whatever they where they put
1:37:31
the holes. To drain the brain.
1:37:32
She have a sub girl. She have a subdural hematoma.
1:37:35
Well, yeah, she was on blood thinners and she, she got like a
1:37:40
little hit in the head. She didn't think anything of it.
1:37:43
And then next thing you know, you know, 3 weeks later her
1:37:46
brain was pushed like a teepee and there it was.
1:37:51
And it was like the, and the trauma was like 3 weeks prior
1:37:54
to. But I'm, I'm questioning if they
1:37:57
could get blocked, would they have to do the same thing?
1:38:00
I mean, if that's severe. No, usually that's just related
1:38:04
to the blood. There's a build up of blood in
1:38:07
the brain because of the hit, the fall and the hit.
1:38:10
So it's what's they usually call a subdural hematoma and they do
1:38:14
have to take a piece of the cranium off to relieve the
1:38:16
pressure on the brain. And it typically manifests like
1:38:20
2 to three weeks after you start to see your loved one acting a
1:38:25
little funny or, you know, cognitively they're not, they're
1:38:27
not where they were three weeks ago.
1:38:29
And then they'll diagnose them with that bleed to the brain and
1:38:32
they it's just a matter of removing that blood that
1:38:36
coagulates around there. And then they close everything
1:38:38
back up and usually the function returns like they return to
1:38:41
normal again, but it doesn't typically affect them that the.
1:38:44
Swelling that we're talking about can happen going that
1:38:47
reverse order. No, no, it wouldn't be from the
1:38:50
lymphatics up typically that I know of.
1:38:54
I've never seen that happen on anybody I or heard of it
1:38:57
happening. Got you.
1:39:00
Other than like the Alzheimer's stuff that they're starting to
1:39:02
relate to potentially, but not because of a back flow, rather
1:39:05
there's not enough flow getting to the brain.
1:39:09
Makes sense? Yeah, it does.
1:39:12
But having any type of those cognitive, functional, is
1:39:17
therapy part of that, any type of physical therapy part of that
1:39:21
to increase endorphins, increase flow, increase anything like
1:39:25
that to help is, is there any knowledge of that?
1:39:28
Not that I know of at the moment.
1:39:30
Not to say in the future that that this won't be incorporated
1:39:33
into their their therapy and their rehab, but at the moment
1:39:37
no. But I think it feels.
1:39:39
Such a new area of our field that it's there's not really a
1:39:43
lot known about that yet. So my mom had to go back into
1:39:47
physical therapy when she had it done, they, they, I mean, we had
1:39:50
rehabilitation for probably about 30 days.
1:39:54
We were in the rehabilitation center and every day in the
1:39:57
physical therapy department. So do you do things like those
1:40:00
as well or No, No, no, no, I didn't.
1:40:04
I was just curious because that was swelling of the brain.
1:40:07
And I'm thinking can that is it plausible and.
1:40:10
I mean, I don't know until I ask, right?
1:40:12
I don't know, it's OK. And like I, like I was saying
1:40:14
before that our, our therapy world has now all these little
1:40:18
specialties. So if I get a patient with some
1:40:21
kind of complaint like that, I'll typically say, you know,
1:40:23
you're going to be best in the hands of this therapist who
1:40:25
specializes in that area. You know, when I first went out
1:40:29
in the field 30 years ago, we did everything.
1:40:31
We did wound care. I even did wound care when I
1:40:33
first came out, where now we have wound care specialists who
1:40:36
do all that stuff. So it's yeah, but I will know my
1:40:40
limitations and I'll say, OK, I think you'll be best working
1:40:43
with so and so, you know, therapist.
1:40:46
And that's also a good thing to have a person that recognizes
1:40:49
they have limitations, guys, you know?
1:40:52
Yeah, yeah, everything has limitations.
1:40:55
Has to, right? Yeah, not has to, but it's it's
1:41:00
made to I think it's made to to plateau us in a realm where then
1:41:05
we can become experts within the plateau.
1:41:08
Right, right. The functions.
1:41:10
Yeah, absolutely. So I don't, I don't know what I
1:41:15
missed between the two because I know that people always ask
1:41:20
about those two. I've actually treated somebody
1:41:24
who had they had their uterus removed like I did that's why I
1:41:28
was asking, but their their leg constantly is swollen on the one
1:41:32
side. That's the lymphedema.
1:41:34
Yes. OK, so this is the ones that she
1:41:39
asked. I was actually treating her
1:41:41
daughter who had four stage breast cancer and the mom was
1:41:47
taking care of like her own family and her kids, like she
1:41:52
was just running herself ragged and her leg was just getting
1:41:54
bigger and bigger. I did tell her to come her.
1:41:56
You know, I'm not going to tell your name online, but I did tell
1:41:58
her to come to you. I'm hopefully she did, but I was
1:42:01
treating her for a long time on the rife and she said that she
1:42:06
has never seen her legs so small using the right frequency at I
1:42:12
was like, well, that's good, but that doesn't mean and and I'm
1:42:15
not a doctor and I'm not, I'm not making it sound like that,
1:42:20
but I did tell her the same thing, which is you need to
1:42:23
reach out to somebody else who can figure out how to maintain
1:42:27
that. I'm not so sure what I'm doing
1:42:29
is able to maintain that. I think it's a complement of
1:42:32
both modalities, right, the energetics and the and then
1:42:36
seeking the right physical somebody to to address the
1:42:40
physical limitations or deficits as well.
1:42:43
But I think it's nice to have both of that energetic world and
1:42:46
physical world and and mold them together.
1:42:48
So what you do is beautiful what I do.
1:42:51
And then we can, you know, we've referred patients to one another
1:42:53
before a client. So it's it's nice to have that.
1:42:57
Yeah, that. Now it's really I just need a
1:42:59
fingernail and and I don't even know now I don't even need
1:43:01
fingernails now I just have these Halo stickers I just make
1:43:06
I know make them and I can just stick them on.
1:43:09
I go, but you can all stick them on.
1:43:12
But I don't know, you know, I you're not gonna work unless you
1:43:15
use them. So I think in all modalities.
1:43:18
That's why I I'm just so in keen with you because it's the more
1:43:22
modalities that you learn and different alternative healings
1:43:26
and not just strictly Western medicine.
1:43:28
Then I think that you have the body within itself, the mind,
1:43:32
body, soul has a better way of healing and balancing to
1:43:35
alignments. I preach that a lot, especially
1:43:39
with psychologies. I'm like, psychology is great,
1:43:42
but if you're going to the same psychologist for the last 10
1:43:44
years, for the last the same thing, why don't we try a
1:43:49
psychologist that does the metaphysical side to it or a
1:43:53
deeper understanding that it's compacted with something else
1:43:56
complicated? And I think that's how I think
1:43:58
of you is when I think that, you know, when a body has so many
1:44:02
other illnesses going off. And I can only speak for myself,
1:44:05
you know, who do I seek? I seek multitude of of modality
1:44:09
or multitude of somebody who can actually help in understanding
1:44:14
everything that is, you know, it's not just one, it's we're
1:44:18
all part of something else, something bigger.
1:44:21
So I agree with that, that statement 100% because I do see
1:44:26
the the mind, body, spirit connection and the patients that
1:44:30
I see. I mean, it just, it just is what
1:44:32
it is. There is an energetic emotional
1:44:34
connection to many of the injuries that I come across and
1:44:37
I've only really fine-tuned picking that up in the last
1:44:41
probably 3 or 4 years, maybe five years, let's say.
1:44:45
Where I see that connection we talked about earlier between
1:44:47
emotional trauma and physical manifestation.
1:44:50
You know, the patients that I see have gone through a loss of
1:44:53
a husband, a spouse, a child, a parent, a major move across one
1:44:57
country to another. I mean, so many things.
1:44:59
When you really get down to the nitty gritty, you realize they
1:45:02
need to have a therapy to deal with that stuff as well as
1:45:06
physical therapy in combination. So it's nice to have a little
1:45:10
bit of both at in my toolbox that I can access.
1:45:14
But then I do have limitations to sometimes and referrals are
1:45:18
necessary when I can't, when I can't, when that patient
1:45:21
plateaus. Absolutely.
1:45:23
And I just think it's like I always tell people it's time to
1:45:26
move on because I've, I've, I've hit my plateau of what I can do
1:45:30
with my expertise and it's, it's now just time.
1:45:33
And it's not that I don't love you.
1:45:34
And the patients get, they get emotional when you tell them
1:45:40
it's like, I do want to see you, but I don't think it's worthy to
1:45:45
increase your potential because I've reached my limits to where
1:45:50
I, I need and where I, I know. And I was like, but it doesn't
1:45:54
mean that we can't, you know, call me and, you know, text me.
1:45:57
I just don't want to sit here taking your money when I know
1:46:00
that I'm not, I'm not helping you, You know, maybe a mental
1:46:04
clarity or that compassion of somebody who loves me because
1:46:08
you love me. Then it's just to use to be
1:46:12
there. But I think there's more to it.
1:46:14
And and that's where I believe that it having me having friends
1:46:19
like Gemma is so beneficial in my life.
1:46:23
And, and it makes me feel just comfort.
1:46:27
It makes, it's kind of like having that battle buddy, we
1:46:31
call him, you know, and knowing, right?
1:46:35
Knowing when we're having this instance or we have PTSD
1:46:40
triggers or we have some other type of trigger we can call
1:46:44
right. People in Alcoholics Anonymous
1:46:46
have that trigger. Well, Gemma is that for me with
1:46:49
my health because if you know me, I don't like big pharma I, I
1:46:53
stay away from I love Western medicine and the fact that it
1:46:56
diagnosis me and then I get to choose how I want to heal it.
1:47:00
I get to choose if I want to use Eastern medicine.
1:47:03
If I want to use alternative, I want to use holistics or some
1:47:07
other modality that's in the other categories and I get to do
1:47:11
that. And that is what I love.
1:47:13
And I love that there's so many modalities that Gemma can
1:47:16
actually help. And all she got to do is call or
1:47:19
make an appointment. And that's the easiest thing in
1:47:21
the world is call or make an appointment.
1:47:23
And then you have all that information at your fingertips.
1:47:27
So with that being said, it is quarter to the hour.
1:47:29
I got to take another quick break and then we'll wrap it up
1:47:32
and we're going to give Gemma the last 10 minutes to talk
1:47:37
about her and what maybe I have missed in my questioning and
1:47:40
what I wanted to know. And if you all have any
1:47:43
questions out there, put them in the put them in the text or the
1:47:45
feeds that you see on on all these.
1:47:47
There's umpteen. I think there's 13 streamings
1:47:50
going on. So go ahead and put them in
1:47:52
there and she will answer as best as she can if she can, but
1:47:56
that would be up to her. So you stay tuned right now.
1:47:58
We're going to go now that we did third class and on my face,
1:48:02
we're going to go back to to a hero.
1:48:07
He's another one of my my face. His name is Dallas Alexander to
1:48:10
a hero. And I think of Gemma as my hero.
1:48:13
So you put it in your mind how you want and I stick in my mind
1:48:18
how I want you. Listen to MB Radio dot US and
1:48:21
we'll be right back. Alright.
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Dallas Alexander, 2A hero. Welcome back.
1:52:42
You're listening to the world of conscious positive thinking.
1:52:44
We're here with Gemma Lopez and our last a few minutes here.
1:52:49
Gemma, I probably missed some things that maybe I, I need to
1:52:53
get out to the public and maybe you know of those as well.
1:52:55
So I'm going to give you the floor to describe your Wellness
1:52:59
Center and your physical therapy center so that anybody within
1:53:02
the area can reach out from the Keys to Homestead to Cutler
1:53:05
Ridge, you know, on and on. Well, I think first take away
1:53:10
is, you know, healing is multifaceted.
1:53:12
So I try to learn. I am a learner of life.
1:53:17
I'm constantly going out trying to learn as much as I possibly
1:53:21
can to help people in as many ways as I possibly can.
1:53:25
So I do my healing is multifaceted.
1:53:29
I do heal on the physical level, but I also try to feel that I
1:53:33
can help people on an energetic and emotional level as well.
1:53:38
And let me tell you, you guys helped me a lot as well.
1:53:41
It's it's a give and take and I am truly honored to be able to
1:53:44
do what I do and to provide that service to people.
1:53:47
If I am limited, I will do referrals out.
1:53:49
So please know that I don't think on this greatest, you
1:53:51
know, gift to God. I have limitations as well.
1:53:55
And I know. That hot with that?
1:53:58
Your thought? I think you are.
1:54:00
It is. I mean, I'm a human being.
1:54:02
Remember that first and foremost.
1:54:04
I'm still in 3D form most of the time, but I am in Homestead.
1:54:09
I have seen patients from Marathon all the way up from
1:54:12
Doral Hialeah that come down Miami Beach.
1:54:15
I have a client that MJ preferred that lives on Miami
1:54:17
Beach. So I do.
1:54:20
I see whoever and whatever needs me and if I do specialize in
1:54:24
oncology, outpatient oncology and lymphedema.
1:54:26
But I also work in orthopedics and I have for a very, very,
1:54:29
very long time. So if you have any of those
1:54:33
issues, pains, just come and see me or just give me a call, reach
1:54:36
out to me on social media, send me a message if you have a
1:54:39
question and we can figure out if I can help you or if you need
1:54:42
a referral out. But I do cupping, laser, soft
1:54:47
tissue release, myofascial stretching, strengthening
1:54:50
Pilates. I'm also Pilates certified, so I
1:54:52
do have a reformer in the office.
1:54:55
Goodness, I don't know what else.
1:54:57
I'm a Reiki practitioner. I'm also now getting into the
1:55:01
John Barnes Myofascial release, which is amazing.
1:55:04
And I have more to go on, but I'm happy to be here to help you
1:55:07
guys, so please reach out if you need me.
1:55:10
There was. A comment here from Todd C
1:55:13
Miller says really enjoyed your guest Doctor Gemma Lopez.
1:55:18
Her expertise on traditional, non traditional, holistic and
1:55:23
the blending of all of them was very interesting and thought
1:55:25
provoking. Having been through multiple
1:55:28
orthopedic and joint replacement surgeries, it was an informative
1:55:31
and thoughtful conversation that opens up different
1:55:34
considerations for treatments and healings.
1:55:37
This is a very great thing for those in need of treatments and
1:55:40
many areas of trauma and correction and healing.
1:55:45
I love Todd. Todd's been a friend for a very
1:55:47
long time. There you go.
1:55:48
There he is. Thank you, Todd.
1:55:51
In the bigger, bigger words. Yes, I agree with you, Todd.
1:55:54
She is an Angel walking in my book.
1:55:57
And she doesn't know that. But it's OK.
1:55:59
She'll learn it. Thank you.
1:56:03
So even if you don't have a trauma, Gemma is open for Ricky
1:56:10
practitioner. So if you want just to align
1:56:13
your chakras or get an alignment, I believe Gemma would
1:56:17
take you in as well into her Wellness Center, am I correct?
1:56:21
You are correct and and just a little add in there, I do kind
1:56:25
of mix the myofascial stuff that I have learned with the Reiki
1:56:30
energy work because they complement one another.
1:56:33
I bet. Thank you.
1:56:34
So it is. Amazing what I have been doing
1:56:36
there. About an hour and a half
1:56:37
sessions to an hour and 15 minutes and the stuff that I am
1:56:42
witnessing before my very eyes, the transformation of my
1:56:45
clients, I can't even begin to describe into words.
1:56:49
And I wish I, I should have sent them some a link so they could
1:56:52
comment. But you know, I've heard things
1:56:56
like life changing and they've been very grateful.
1:56:59
I'm just the tool guys. I'm just the middle woman, OK?
1:57:03
I'm just, you know, using divine.
1:57:04
I always work in God's light and I'm just the middle man, you
1:57:08
know, doing the work of God, so. Listen, when your pipes break,
1:57:12
you need a plumber. When your body breaks down, you
1:57:15
need JAMA. I can't say it loud enough.
1:57:17
I can't. Or.
1:57:19
MJ or Kimmy, there's others too. You know, we're all out there.
1:57:23
We're out there to help you guys.
1:57:24
We're out there absolutely, but this is your star today, baby
1:57:29
and I and I'm with Todd. This is all about you today and
1:57:32
we enjoy you. We love you and unfortunately
1:57:35
that is the end of my show. Give the the hubby and the kids
1:57:38
and mom a big hooker up. Emma, I cannot thank you.
1:57:42
Thank you enough. Maybe out there, if you
1:57:45
listening, reach outreach out, even if you're not in that area,
1:57:50
I'll guarantee she can help point you in a direction that is
1:57:54
going to help you in that path of recovery.
1:57:57
I am sure of it. Or she'll give you some ideas of
1:58:01
maybe to be looking at certain things that maybe we're not as
1:58:05
individuals looking at, if that makes sense.
1:58:08
So and MJ, thank you so much for having me.
1:58:11
I've enjoyed our chit chat. It's like we're just having a
1:58:15
cup of coffee and you know, old friends chit chatting and I
1:58:18
really appreciate. It thank.
1:58:20
You so much for everything you've done for me.
1:58:22
Maybe angels carry you with peace, love, grace, joy,
1:58:24
happiness and abundance of what it is that you desire most.
1:58:28
My friends, have a beautiful day.
1:58:31
This is MB Radio, we have to sign off and I am MJ with the
1:58:35
world of conscious positive thinking.
1:58:36
We'll be back next week. If you are anywhere near this
1:58:39
Ulster area, we're having chakra classes starting Tuesday
1:58:43
tomorrow. And then of course we have our
1:58:46
beautiful Reiki New Moon circle. So if you're up there, give us a
1:58:50
shout. We'll get you in and get you up
1:58:52
up on the mountain and feel the vibrations.
1:58:54
Stay safe, stay within peace and always stay within love.
1:58:58
And we'll see you next Monday as we depart.
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