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- 0:03Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.
- 0:07Speaker 1: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your
- 0:10Speaker 1: favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey
- 0:13Speaker 1: and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and
- 0:17Speaker 1: Bell Collective. Every episode we recap reality television from the
- 0:23Speaker 1: Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in
- 0:27Speaker 1: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or
- 0:31Speaker 1: scripted as well. It does bother me that we even
- 0:41Speaker 1: have to talk about this, but it also goes to
- 0:43Speaker 1: show you the dangerous side of social media. So ay,
- 0:49Speaker 1: and when I say this, I'm not dissing the outlet
- 0:52Speaker 1: or dissing this term, because that's not what it's about.
- 0:56Speaker 2: But this blog posted an AI flow.
- 1:01Speaker 1: Stating that Niani Leaks was coming back to season eighteen
- 1:07Speaker 1: of the Real Housewives of Atlanta and that.
- 1:09Speaker 2: Shemiah was out. So what I saw right, So when
- 1:15Speaker 2: I saw this, not sure what the three of you did.
- 1:19Speaker 1: I kept scrolling to look at what my algorithm shows me,
- 1:24Speaker 1: which is anyway. So then I'm like, this is nothing right,
- 1:28Speaker 1: this is nothing true story. A few reality stars texted
- 1:34Speaker 1: me and said, is this true?
- 1:37Speaker 2: And my response was you got to be shitty.
- 1:40Speaker 1: Like you believe this, And they're like, well, you know
- 1:44Speaker 1: people are saying it.
- 1:45Speaker 2: I'm like, there's no credible source.
- 1:47Speaker 1: And then it literally became a news today to the
- 1:50Speaker 1: point where Andy Cohen had to go on his radio
- 1:54Speaker 1: show and say that he is pretty much fine with
- 1:59Speaker 1: the current cat as of season eighteen and that there
- 2:02Speaker 1: are no changes to the current cast of season eighteen.
- 2:07Speaker 1: TMZ reported that Nini Leeds did not receive a contract.
- 2:12Speaker 1: I did not think this was going to spread. No
- 2:16Speaker 1: pun intended to Dustin's Weekend, but I had no idea
- 2:19Speaker 1: this is going to spread, but instead it became like
- 2:22Speaker 1: big news.
- 2:23Speaker 2: But it made me.
- 2:24Speaker 1: Scared about that you can literally put out anything anything,
- 2:29Speaker 1: no matter no matter the source, but outlet how many.
- 2:31Speaker 2: Followers you have and it will create a story.
- 2:35Speaker 1: Claudia Jordan And when you first saw this story that
- 2:38Speaker 1: Nini Leagues was replaced in Shmia, did you buy this?
- 2:41Speaker 3: No.
- 2:42Speaker 4: They do this every year, and part of it is
- 2:46Speaker 4: wishful thinking from a lot of people that would love
- 2:47Speaker 4: to see Ni back on the show. That's understandable. But
- 2:50Speaker 4: this season, compared to last season, was so much more
- 2:53Speaker 4: together and fun and off the chain and better. They'd
- 2:56Speaker 4: be a damnful to stop this momentum. They need to
- 2:58Speaker 4: keep it exactly as it is, don't add, don't subtract
- 3:01Speaker 4: anybody from the show, and let anybody come back next
- 3:03Speaker 4: season and see what it is. We just finally getting
- 3:05Speaker 4: into her, getting comfortable. They're they're you know, getting up
- 3:08Speaker 4: from out from up under portion's shadow.
- 3:10Speaker 3: She's become her own housewife.
- 3:13Speaker 4: There's now beefs between the ladies that they had their
- 3:16Speaker 4: own issues with each other, some of them kind of
- 3:19Speaker 4: quite swiftly and kind of fake swept them on the
- 3:23Speaker 4: rug onder the carpet, and we kind of want to
- 3:24Speaker 4: see a little bit more of that next season. This
- 3:27Speaker 4: story there's now there's things that uh, storylines that follow now.
- 3:30Speaker 4: I think I think it'd be crazy to shake that
- 3:32Speaker 4: up again. And let's let this cook for a little while,
- 3:35Speaker 4: let it marinate, let it cook, let it cook.
- 3:38Speaker 5: Okay, Yeah, you know I'm old, so I'll come from
- 3:43Speaker 5: the school in the days of the Sun and and
- 3:46Speaker 5: the nationally inquirer and shit, you know what I'm saying.
- 3:49Speaker 6: All the stuff we.
- 3:50Speaker 5: Knew was bullshit, and we we knew that we could
- 3:52Speaker 5: separate that from actual, credible, legitimate media outlets that we
- 3:57Speaker 5: could trust, right, But with the influx of the inner
- 3:59Speaker 5: and all the goddamn misinformation. It's I think it's funny
- 4:03Speaker 5: that I'm actually grateful that we can use this as
- 4:07Speaker 5: an example to show people the importance right of discernment
- 4:13Speaker 5: and of fact checking information, right, because this can actually
- 4:18Speaker 5: bleed over into some very real areas of our life
- 4:21Speaker 5: when it comes to information and misinformation and the difference
- 4:25Speaker 5: between the two.
- 4:26Speaker 6: So just use this as a lesson.
- 4:27Speaker 5: As much as we all would love to see Nieny
- 4:29Speaker 5: leaks back on The goddamn Housewives, it ain't happening next season, okay,
- 4:34Speaker 5: And we know that we have a flat out confirmation
- 4:37Speaker 5: from Andy Cohen on our hands. Let's let it go,
- 4:41Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, And let's just leave it there.
- 4:44Speaker 5: I think that it's just something that people really want.
- 4:47Speaker 5: But I don't want to be dumb and gullible, you.
- 4:49Speaker 6: Know what I'm saying.
- 4:50Speaker 5: So because of that, my ego don't want me to
- 4:52Speaker 5: be that way. So when I read certain shit, I
- 4:55Speaker 5: look at where it's coming from, cross reference that I
- 4:58Speaker 5: fact checking, and shit.
- 5:00Speaker 6: I don't want to see some shit like that and
- 5:01Speaker 6: oh a needy come back. You know what I'm saying.
- 5:04Speaker 6: I don't want to be like that, so I encourage
- 5:06Speaker 6: others to do the same.
- 5:09Speaker 2: Blue.
- 5:11Speaker 7: I agree with everything being said. I just think it's
- 5:13Speaker 7: so interesting how you choose my words unintelligent. The audience
- 5:20Speaker 7: is slowly becoming look at that, look at that mean
- 5:22Speaker 7: learning tactic. I don't even think it's misinformation. I think
- 5:25Speaker 7: it's disinformation for those Disinformation is intentionally telling a lie.
- 5:30Speaker 7: Misinformation means I made a mistake. I didn't check it.
- 5:32Speaker 7: Disinformation means I'm a harbinger of chaos, was putting out
- 5:35Speaker 7: bullshit to create more noise. And I think the reality
- 5:39Speaker 7: TV disinformation is actually the name of the game for
- 5:43Speaker 7: some reason that Andy's having the same cast, because even
- 5:46Speaker 7: angry rage bait engagement is still engagement, right, I tell
- 5:50Speaker 7: this show all the time. I think I was talking
- 5:51Speaker 7: to you calls. I said. Whenever I'm doing like a
- 5:53Speaker 7: Love Island review or Married at First Sight review, people
- 5:55Speaker 7: get mad at me. My income doubles like people getting
- 5:59Speaker 7: pissed at me literally puts to me another tax bracket.
- 6:01Speaker 7: And I hate that, by the way, I mean I like,
- 6:04Speaker 7: but I hate that that's the way that it's done,
- 6:06Speaker 7: because if you don't have integrity, what does that do
- 6:09Speaker 7: to your brain chemistry that you know that if you
- 6:12Speaker 7: get people mad, even if it's disinformation and a flat
- 6:15Speaker 7: out lie, you could pay your rent next week. So
- 6:17Speaker 7: I think we're entering into a sinister time where it's
- 6:20Speaker 7: no longer people are just stupid and trying to not
- 6:23Speaker 7: fact check because it's you know, a lot. I don't
- 6:24Speaker 7: care who tell it. I think folks are intentionally creating
- 6:27Speaker 7: rage bait because a life pays the bills.
- 6:29Speaker 6: And that is yeah, somebody needs to be I agree.
- 6:35Speaker 4: And no one ever apolgiz fake information. They don't ever say,
- 6:39Speaker 4: you know, they never want to like clean it up,
- 6:40Speaker 4: and if they do post uh when they have to,
- 6:43Speaker 4: like you know, fast up that they mess up. Small attraction, Yes,
- 6:47Speaker 4: thank you, No sleep too much, Houka and lemon pepper
- 6:51Speaker 4: wings this weekend, I was very ghetto. Yeah yeah, yeah,
- 6:56Speaker 4: retraction that word. Uh, it's always so small. I'm like,
- 7:01Speaker 4: you know, it's really really small. They don't really make
- 7:03Speaker 4: a big deal out of it. They don't the same
- 7:05Speaker 4: blog as I've run with it. They never say my bad,
- 7:07Speaker 4: and that happens time and time again, we've all probably
- 7:10Speaker 4: been victims of that. They will run their mouth about
- 7:12Speaker 4: something and then when you clear it up with proof
- 7:14Speaker 4: and evidence, this is quiet in the creek, okay, and
- 7:17Speaker 4: no one's saying nothing about nothing.
- 7:19Speaker 3: No one want to even say, oh my bad nothing.
- 7:22Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, And let's be clear, when or if
- 7:26Speaker 1: Lenithia Monique Johnston Leaks is returning to the Real Housewives
- 7:31Speaker 1: of Atlanta, it will not be an AI generated post
- 7:36Speaker 1: that reveals that. Okay, it will be a big deal
- 7:39Speaker 1: that will be embargoed until something else happens. And in
- 7:44Speaker 1: regards to Shamia, look love Shamia or hate her when
- 7:48Speaker 1: the concert season eighteen, to meya.
- 7:51Speaker 2: Is not going anywhere.
- 7:53Speaker 1: So I'm not sure if you guys are trying to
- 7:55Speaker 1: start this campaign to get rid of her. I'm not
- 7:58Speaker 1: here to say anything else outside of what they have said.
- 8:02Speaker 2: But all I will say is what Andy said.
- 8:06Speaker 1: Is what he said, Okay, So you know it also
- 8:10Speaker 1: goes to show you and it's what you guys are saying.
- 8:14Speaker 2: I'm happy with this cast.
- 8:16Speaker 1: I'm happy with that, and I do feel like I
- 8:22Speaker 1: do feel like if you guys really look.
- 8:25Speaker 2: At what's about to happen season eighteen.
- 8:28Speaker 1: We all should be celebrating that everyone is coming back like.
- 8:31Speaker 2: That's a big deal. It hasn't happened.
- 8:35Speaker 1: I can't tell you the last season where everybody came
- 8:38Speaker 1: back and nobody got let go demoted. Everybody's coming back
- 8:43Speaker 1: and everybody deserves to come back. And I'm looking forward
- 8:46Speaker 1: to what I'm seeing. And once again, if you did
- 8:49Speaker 1: not hear A Month and a Live, it is not
- 8:51Speaker 1: true because oh okay, because yeah, Month and I Live
- 8:56Speaker 1: is a credible source. We are the TMZ of scripted television.
- 9:01Speaker 1: You haven't heard it here first. We will always eat
- 9:04Speaker 1: the sores, just like Claudia did when she revealed Pinky
- 9:07Speaker 1: was pregnant.
- 9:08Speaker 7: So Claudia, you can tell we don't rehearse. I'll never
- 9:14Speaker 7: be ready. Okay.
- 9:16Speaker 1: Oh, Laudia Jordan is mendicated once again because the Real Housewives.
- 9:28Speaker 1: So thank you, Blue. I'm loving here too, babe.
- 9:31Speaker 7: So the horse disappeared to the shrubs, so.
- 9:40Speaker 1: Claudia, Barbara Walters, Diane Swayer, Opra Gramm for Landa Watts, Jordan's.
- 9:47Speaker 2: She revealed exclusively on Month and Alive.
- 9:51Speaker 1: Thank you Claudia for bringing it home that somebody was pregnant.
- 9:54Speaker 2: On Atlanta Housewives.
- 9:56Speaker 1: The first look of the reunion that's airing this they
- 10:00Speaker 1: drop it is not revealed that Pinky coll is pregnant
- 10:05Speaker 1: with her fourth baby. Claudia, what do you have to
- 10:08Speaker 1: say about that news besides.
- 10:12Speaker 2: Congratulations?
- 10:14Speaker 4: I already said what I needed to say, and bitch
- 10:17Speaker 4: is you're welcome. And for the record, I did not
- 10:21Speaker 4: say Pinky was pregnant. I said someone on the show
- 10:25Speaker 4: says that they are on the show. There's a big
- 10:28Speaker 4: difference between me blowing up the spot and saying who
- 10:30Speaker 4: if I said what I knew from the reunion team.
- 10:33Speaker 4: But you know, there's levels to intelligence and understanding and
- 10:40Speaker 4: common sense and I get it.
- 10:42Speaker 3: So again, when I Frank Graham was my editor.
- 10:48Speaker 4: At the Providence American newspaper back in nineteen ninety five,
- 10:52Speaker 4: nineteen ninety.
- 10:53Speaker 7: Six, Resident Frank Graham.
- 10:55Speaker 4: And he told me if we can't if we can't
- 10:58Speaker 4: prove it, we can't print it. And that has been
- 11:01Speaker 4: something that is my journalistic integrity have stayed.
- 11:04Speaker 2: A great slogan, Claudia, if you can't prove it, you
- 11:08Speaker 2: can't print it.
- 11:10Speaker 4: I mean, I just if y'all don't want me to
- 11:14Speaker 4: continue to give you all the truth. This level, I
- 11:17Speaker 4: can make my life way easier. But I serve you,
- 11:21Speaker 4: the people, the viewers, the person out there that just
- 11:25Speaker 4: wants to, you know, escape their real life and come
- 11:27Speaker 4: here get teached to everybody else's business. But when I
- 11:30Speaker 4: say it, it's a problem, I don't have to say
- 11:33Speaker 4: anything else.
- 11:35Speaker 7: If you can't prove it, you can print it on.
- 11:41Speaker 3: I would like to challenge the audience. I would like
- 11:43Speaker 3: to challenge the audience to please name one time that
- 11:48Speaker 3: I was wrong or I was lying.
- 11:52Speaker 4: I will drink way awful, awfully awful at.
- 12:02Speaker 2: The rage. Thoughts are gagging with the year ninety.
- 12:07Speaker 7: Pull out the nineteen hundreds for this, I said, not
- 12:09Speaker 7: the horse and buggy.
- 12:10Speaker 8: Now, listen, back in the day, we had to use
- 12:15Speaker 8: white out when we would type up on a type
- 12:17Speaker 8: run right out. I was one of the only female
- 12:22Speaker 8: journalists at the million Man March in nineteen ninety five
- 12:25Speaker 8: at our nation's capital, Brothers for days.
- 12:29Speaker 3: Yes, it was amazing, and.
- 12:31Speaker 4: Yes we used have to use water and type and
- 12:34Speaker 4: do our research with no Internet back.
- 12:35Speaker 5: Then, paper roll maps, yeah, rep quest, oh my god, quest.
- 12:43Speaker 6: Absolutely drunk.
- 12:45Speaker 3: I'm not drunk. I was drunk last night though, but
- 12:47Speaker 3: I ain't drunk today.
- 12:48Speaker 7: No lawyas good.
- 12:49Speaker 2: That's good.
- 12:50Speaker 1: So Dustin and Blue, What do you guys think about
- 12:53Speaker 1: Gankkey being pregnant?
- 12:54Speaker 2: And what were your thoughts on the reunion trailer?
- 12:58Speaker 6: Go ahead, boom I the.
- 13:00Speaker 7: Reunion trailer makes me excited for next season because it
- 13:04Speaker 7: feels like, like I said for the penn ultimate episode, k
- 13:07Speaker 7: Michelle said, I've arrived, like she finally came off of
- 13:10Speaker 7: being thought out right the came a show. I've seen
- 13:12Speaker 7: the the last two episodes and the Cay Michelle that
- 13:15Speaker 7: I saw in the preview. I'm excited for next season.
- 13:17Speaker 7: Andy is giddy. He is in Messy Bitch Heaven. It
- 13:21Speaker 7: is like he's squealing on the couch like I just
- 13:25Speaker 7: and also too because somebody refreshed my memory. Why is
- 13:28Speaker 7: it that Michelle is so mad at Drew still? I
- 13:33Speaker 7: don't understand why. Like every year, I'm confused about why
- 13:37Speaker 7: people are so mad at Drew, Like, explain to me,
- 13:39Speaker 7: like I'm five so many people at now and Drew's
- 13:44Speaker 7: the only person that she's still so angry. I'm just
- 13:47Speaker 7: so Claudia, do you know you have the tea? You're
- 13:50Speaker 7: the man on the street. Why is k Michelle still
- 13:52Speaker 7: so angry at Drew.
- 13:53Speaker 4: Specifically because they've all squashed their beasts with Portia. Uh huh,
- 13:59Speaker 4: and and you gotta have someone to be mad at,
- 14:01Speaker 4: and Drew is the easy target.
- 14:03Speaker 3: Like easy target.
- 14:04Speaker 4: It's like you know when you see a herd of
- 14:06Speaker 4: antelope crossing a river and there's a alligator right, an
- 14:12Speaker 4: alligator that's like, oh my god, I'm hungry. I haven't
- 14:14Speaker 4: eat in two weeks. They're gonna go for the one
- 14:16Speaker 4: that's lagging behind. That everyone's just kind of thinks is
- 14:19Speaker 4: a week link and they're not always the weekly. They
- 14:21Speaker 4: go after those those ankles and those Achilles hendons. They
- 14:24Speaker 4: think that Drew is the slow running antelope.
- 14:27Speaker 3: She's not.
- 14:28Speaker 6: She's not.
- 14:29Speaker 4: She's not stop, miss not gendering, miss miss speaking, she's.
- 14:38Speaker 3: Miss speaking her. She's not an.
- 14:41Speaker 4: Antelope that's slow, and you're gonna get her in the
- 14:43Speaker 4: creek once again, Clive the creek leave her.
- 14:45Speaker 3: Through a low Yeah, so yo.
- 14:52Speaker 4: They just think that, I think because like it don't
- 14:54Speaker 4: make sense, like cameras show and Drew will be doing
- 14:56Speaker 4: to see what they'll say, I love you, I love
- 14:58Speaker 4: your girl, And then five minutes later they read someone
- 15:00Speaker 4: it's like a mean ass comment or in.
- 15:02Speaker 3: A green spin like wait, what happened? I don't get it.
- 15:09Speaker 1: I'll say this in my in my opinion, in my opinion,
- 15:13Speaker 1: because we'll get to this later as we recap the finale.
- 15:17Speaker 2: So I'll just start by saying this and we'll finish
- 15:19Speaker 2: it later. I think.
- 15:23Speaker 1: I think drews a Door and Kay Michelle have both decided.
- 15:28Speaker 2: We like beeping with each other. I think, to me,
- 15:32Speaker 2: to me, and I'll get to this later.
- 15:35Speaker 1: Drew kind of started it, so I've made up my
- 15:38Speaker 1: mind that they are sort of our Kenya Portia. There's
- 15:43Speaker 1: sort of our remember Jazzy and Potomac and Okay, just
- 15:49Speaker 1: two women.
- 15:50Speaker 5: We'll get to it if we go into it. We're
- 15:53Speaker 5: gonna do what we're gonna do, because I definitely I'm
- 15:57Speaker 5: gonna get you for that. When we talk about the show,
- 16:02Speaker 5: did that starting? We can't start no story in the middle. Well,
- 16:06Speaker 5: go ahead, go ahead, he did, We'll there went out there.
- 16:10Speaker 9: Yeah, I like, I love Yeah, let's go and the worst.
- 16:19Speaker 1: In the words of Claudia Jordan's Blue I'm gonna land
- 16:22Speaker 1: the plane in a second.
- 16:29Speaker 2: I love your lamp plans. But we'll get to that.
- 16:31Speaker 1: We'll get to that, Okay, Like Karen, well, well, Karen, honey,
- 16:36Speaker 1: they were actually friends, that's why they're different.
- 16:40Speaker 2: But talk about the junior trailer.
- 16:43Speaker 1: I will say this, I will say this and me
- 16:45Speaker 1: and that's will get into it later. I will say this, Brava,
- 16:49Speaker 1: brava to the season seventeen girls.
- 16:53Speaker 2: You ladies exemplified.
- 16:57Speaker 1: All I mean all eight plus Cynthia right, it's it was,
- 17:03Speaker 1: it was. I was proud watching that trailer because for me,
- 17:10Speaker 1: it was the first time in a long time that
- 17:13Speaker 1: I felt everybody clocked in and everybody's meant to be there.
- 17:18Speaker 1: And and that's why it disturbed that you guys, not
- 17:22Speaker 1: not you guys.
- 17:22Speaker 10: That that that that that blog took a momentum of
- 17:28Speaker 10: us concentrating on the excellence that these ladies brought on
- 17:33Speaker 10: that reunion and try to make casting changes and what
- 17:37Speaker 10: I do want you guys.
- 17:38Speaker 2: To understand and listen.
- 17:39Speaker 1: I I will say this to the producers of Season
- 17:42Speaker 1: eighteen is you, which was.
- 17:45Speaker 2: The great thing.
- 17:45Speaker 1: By the way, you guys have a big challenge in
- 17:48Speaker 1: a great way because you get to be able to
- 17:51Speaker 1: take these different stories and and and do some amazing
- 17:55Speaker 1: television with it. I think there's so much pressure now
- 17:58Speaker 1: if I'm if I'm speaking honestly.
- 18:00Speaker 2: For the girls, because you guys have now.
- 18:03Speaker 1: Cultivated up a relationship, and I think now the work
- 18:06Speaker 1: is done to see like how can we appear next
- 18:10Speaker 1: season in our authentic selves with these new relationships.
- 18:15Speaker 2: So I'm I have no note for that re union.
- 18:20Speaker 6: I agree.
- 18:21Speaker 5: I think that, Like I said, the reunion trailer made
- 18:26Speaker 5: me excited to watch all three parts.
- 18:28Speaker 6: It didn't seem like there were going.
- 18:29Speaker 5: To be any like lulls or valleys in it. It
- 18:33Speaker 5: didn't seem like there was gonna be a lot of
- 18:34Speaker 5: filler and fluff. You can always tell based on the
- 18:37Speaker 5: trailer and that reunion everybody was quote unquote activated and
- 18:41Speaker 5: speaking up and offering opinions and continuing the conversation moving forward.
- 18:47Speaker 6: So I'm excited. It looked good.
- 18:49Speaker 5: Portie and Drew both made comments about k Michelle that
- 18:54Speaker 5: were nasty after cay Michelle made comings, so were nasty
- 18:57Speaker 5: about them. So listen, once the gloves are off, that
- 19:00Speaker 5: means we're gonna get some good ass television. And the
- 19:02Speaker 5: gloves were definitely often what we saw. So I'm excited
- 19:06Speaker 5: and everybody looked nice too.
- 19:09Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah yeah.
- 19:14Speaker 3: Look at her face. Hit on a gray.
- 19:17Speaker 6: I thought they all looked pretty well.
- 19:19Speaker 3: Mean you didn't like everything? What would you think.
- 19:23Speaker 7: We like aism button? I look, man, choices were made
- 19:28Speaker 7: mm hmm, and it looked like the uh the stuff
- 19:31Speaker 7: that didn't use for wicked. For some of the outfits,
- 19:34Speaker 7: it was it was given. It was, it was given
- 19:39Speaker 7: yellow a nick road. It was hit or miss. There
- 19:43Speaker 7: was hits and ne were misses. So I cannot tell
- 19:46Speaker 7: a lie, but shout out to all the hits and
- 19:48Speaker 7: the rest of y'all know some of them looked crazy.
- 19:51Speaker 7: I'm sorry. I'm about break the fourth wall, I said,
- 19:53Speaker 7: calls a picture like cars? What the is this?
- 19:55Speaker 3: And so I just this is the face one were bad?
- 20:04Speaker 3: Tell me I can say.
- 20:06Speaker 7: I just I was you have a good poker face.
- 20:09Speaker 7: I was waiting for you to blue.
- 20:11Speaker 3: I am dragged by my Come on now, who didn't
- 20:17Speaker 3: look good?
- 20:18Speaker 7: Just one of the couches was touched by an angel.
- 20:21Speaker 3: I didn't know what it's one, okay, like pregnancy, it's
- 20:27Speaker 3: just an outfit.
- 20:28Speaker 7: That's fashion show with no fashions. How dreadful. I was
- 20:38Speaker 7: visually insulted by Okay, okay.
- 20:42Speaker 1: Can you tell us are you comfortable telling us at
- 20:46Speaker 1: least what your favorite look was and what you're not
- 20:49Speaker 1: so favorite look was, only if you're comfortable.
- 20:53Speaker 7: I'm comfortable saying that green is a pretty color.
- 20:56Speaker 6: M hm.
- 20:56Speaker 7: Okay, So the girls in green, I do remember saying, oh,
- 21:01Speaker 7: that's a nice shit of green against black skin. So
- 21:03Speaker 7: the girls in green looked good. I'm just gonna say this,
- 21:06Speaker 7: I think every woman on the show is pretty. I
- 21:09Speaker 7: actually think every woman on the show is try I
- 21:12Speaker 7: think some of them need to fire their makeup artists.
- 21:16Speaker 7: Because there was a drag hand. It was given drag
- 21:19Speaker 7: race more than Reunion of Housewives, and so the drag
- 21:22Speaker 7: hand was a little bit heavy with some of the girls.
- 21:26Speaker 7: And as a girl who I'm a face queen. So
- 21:28Speaker 7: when you're out for this costume and you're and you're
- 21:30Speaker 7: blushed to your the back of your neck, I'm gonna
- 21:33Speaker 7: notice that.
- 21:34Speaker 4: I'm gonna say that's not just in the reunion, because
- 21:37Speaker 4: there was a few episodes where faces were a totally
- 21:39Speaker 4: differentult than the neck.
- 21:40Speaker 3: And if I say one of the names, y'all gonna
- 21:42Speaker 3: say I'm hating.
- 21:43Speaker 4: But y'all can just like read between the lines, and
- 21:44Speaker 4: I'm not talking about Porsche.
- 21:46Speaker 3: She looked good.
- 21:47Speaker 4: There's someone that is a repeat offender, like the last
- 21:51Speaker 4: three or four weeks where this and this is you
- 21:56Speaker 4: can go with this that.
- 21:58Speaker 7: Yeah, with that.
- 22:01Speaker 4: I wish to get with this and not getting with that.
- 22:04Speaker 4: All this mixed matching is not where it's at the
- 22:09Speaker 4: New York Kransit line.
- 22:11Speaker 7: Have to have me out hate being on want time
- 22:12Speaker 7: the truth. I'm not.
- 22:14Speaker 4: I'm gonna start leaving clues because I don't like the
- 22:16Speaker 4: blunt and sometimes so.
- 22:18Speaker 3: Y'all listen, go back at the last one.
- 22:21Speaker 4: It was like a it was almost like maybe the
- 22:25Speaker 4: makeup was from two different makeup bags, like maybe one
- 22:28Speaker 4: was for like the day makeup and then one from
- 22:30Speaker 4: the cadaver bag.
- 22:31Speaker 7: Somebody didn't pay the invoice, Claudia, And that's how passive
- 22:33Speaker 7: aggressive makeup artists do you You don't pay the invoice
- 22:35Speaker 7: and she starts getting real sick around the cheeks.
- 22:41Speaker 4: That was on the episode. I don't know what I
- 22:44Speaker 4: gotta go in the reunion, so.
- 22:45Speaker 3: But I was.
- 22:47Speaker 2: I appreciate the ladies for the candid commentary. Dathin. I
- 22:51Speaker 2: cannot talk about looks when it comes to we talk.
- 22:54Speaker 3: About making the makeup.
- 23:00Speaker 7: Of God, but the makeup.
- 23:03Speaker 1: Freedom Beat my face for the Bell Collective, for Union,
- 23:06Speaker 1: and I was happy with his work. Yes, Freedom on
- 23:10Speaker 1: the Beat, Yes Freedom or for Juice Door. I will
- 23:15Speaker 1: say this, I'm gonna move on to Bell Collective, Juice
- 23:18Speaker 1: of Dora.
- 23:20Speaker 2: The way you.
- 23:20Speaker 1: Look at the finale at Ky Michelle's listening party, keep
- 23:25Speaker 1: that hair, makeup squad, whatever you have never looked bad.
- 23:30Speaker 2: You're already a bad a bad ship you are.
- 23:33Speaker 1: I think druse A Door is one of the most
- 23:35Speaker 1: beautiful women of Bravos.
- 23:38Speaker 7: She's always been very pretty.
- 23:40Speaker 1: Yeah, drews Doors face in person is gorgeous. It's nothing
- 23:45Speaker 1: to be played with. So the fact that your team drew,
- 23:49Speaker 1: I don't know if it was Freedom of the Beat.
- 23:50Speaker 7: I don't know.
- 23:51Speaker 4: Child.
- 23:51Speaker 2: All I can say to you is you at the
- 23:54Speaker 2: fucking Caym Michelle listening party.
- 23:57Speaker 6: Gorgeous.
- 23:58Speaker 2: You almost turned me straight. You look that's good. Oh
- 24:04Speaker 2: and y'all don't have a thing for Portia. I'm just saying, Drew, really.
- 24:07Speaker 7: We haven't noticed his hearts look pretty falling and getting
- 24:11Speaker 7: back up Drew, So it's aerodynamic. Whatever they did it
- 24:15Speaker 7: down he came back up and you were still snatched anyways.
- 24:24Speaker 2: Uh well, according to fans, I'm a flip flopper, but.
- 24:28Speaker 3: I love.
- 24:30Speaker 7: When it comes to high school of yours.
- 24:35Speaker 3: A little bit.
- 24:36Speaker 2: The only woman that could top me is thy Young
- 24:38Speaker 2: and I believe it at that.
- 24:40Speaker 3: Oh lord, well not the first.
- 24:47Speaker 2: Oh we'll get to this latter sway, maybe number two.
- 24:52Speaker 2: This is reality with the King and I'm Carlos King.
- 24:55Speaker 2: Let's get back into the show. Anyway. Let's the theaster
- 25:02Speaker 2: finale of the Real Husmas of Atlanta.
- 25:05Speaker 1: So the episode kicked off with Kym, Michelle, Pinky and Shamiya.
- 25:11Speaker 1: They well, Pinky and Shamia with her daughters. They're talking about,
- 25:16Speaker 1: you know, catching up those things. In this scene, Pinky
- 25:20Speaker 1: did say that she does miss the light that Shamiya
- 25:24Speaker 1: has and she misses Shamia having fun, just based on
- 25:27Speaker 1: what happened in Scotland, based on what happened in the
- 25:29Speaker 1: last episode.
- 25:31Speaker 2: As Shamiya's Halloween party when she got into with Angela
- 25:37Speaker 2: starting with you Blue, do you think that the spark that.
- 25:41Speaker 1: Shamia had starting this season did it dissipate towards the
- 25:48Speaker 1: end and it's Pinky picking up or something.
- 25:51Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm gonna be honest even though we well, I
- 25:54Speaker 7: won't be I want to speak French. I know that
- 25:56Speaker 7: when the girls are having a moment a good moment,
- 25:58Speaker 7: I clap. And when I think she is laying my
- 25:59Speaker 7: said lame. I miss happy Shemiah, like I really do
- 26:04Speaker 7: miss when Samiyah was giddy and frolicking and being fabulous
- 26:08Speaker 7: and doing a whole stuff and having on running jokes
- 26:11Speaker 7: like I missed that Samiyah. I love when came a
- 26:13Speaker 7: show last episode said that I can see it's being dimmed.
- 26:16Speaker 7: Pinky's picking up on it as well. I actually hope
- 26:18Speaker 7: that what we're seeing on camera with the girls pointing
- 26:20Speaker 7: that out, that they're being just if not more loving
- 26:23Speaker 7: and compassionate and honest with her behind the scenes, because
- 26:26Speaker 7: I want the old Shemiah back when we start next season.
- 26:29Speaker 7: I really, really really do. The show is more fun
- 26:31Speaker 7: when Shamia is having fun. I know ratings don't care
- 26:34Speaker 7: if you're having fun, because even if they're beating you up,
- 26:36Speaker 7: people are gonna hate watch. But I just as a viewer,
- 26:39Speaker 7: actually enjoyed the show more when Shamia is having a
- 26:42Speaker 7: good time. And even at that scene towards the end
- 26:45Speaker 7: when they were talking about Andrew was saying, Shami, are
- 26:49Speaker 7: you in Portia, Africa? And Porta's like, I'm good exactly
- 26:51Speaker 7: where I am. I hope Shemiah mixed peace with that.
- 26:54Speaker 7: I hope she just mixed peace with it and pivots.
- 26:56Speaker 7: That's what I'm rooting for. So yeah, I think the
- 26:58Speaker 7: girls were onto something, and I think I'm seeing a
- 27:00Speaker 7: glimmer of her coming back out. I almost feel like,
- 27:05Speaker 7: and I hate to say this, if there's a new
- 27:07Speaker 7: person or a new tension that gets her attention off
- 27:10Speaker 7: of Porsche, I think there's a likeness to anybody but
- 27:13Speaker 7: Porscha fissing her off, that will bring back the old
- 27:16Speaker 7: fun Shamir that we saw. It's like, let's say, you know,
- 27:18Speaker 7: Pinky step on her toe something. I don't even care. This,
- 27:21Speaker 7: the horse shot on her front porch, I don't care something, right.
- 27:24Speaker 7: I think as long as it's not Porscha, we'll get
- 27:26Speaker 7: the old Shamia back. So I'm hoping for that.
- 27:29Speaker 2: Yeah, I stould agree with you.
- 27:31Speaker 1: I definitely think por Shamiya, well we fell in love
- 27:34Speaker 1: last season when she sort of was this honestly like
- 27:40Speaker 1: last season, Shemia, at least in the first episode, right, guys,
- 27:43Speaker 1: she was like the anchor, like she was the one
- 27:44Speaker 1: that she was the one that literally told us like
- 27:48Speaker 1: I'm friends with this person, that these preople are friends here.
- 27:51Speaker 1: So Shamia was the anchor last season, at least in
- 27:54Speaker 1: the beginning, and she did have this lightness and the
- 27:57Speaker 1: Shamia that I know in real life.
- 27:58Speaker 2: Samia is a fun woman.
- 28:00Speaker 1: When I saw her at the Hawks game before the
- 28:02Speaker 1: season started, I do remember asking her.
- 28:04Speaker 2: That's why I feel comfortable sharing it. It's not a secret, but.
- 28:07Speaker 1: I remember asking her, like how the season, and she
- 28:10Speaker 1: made a face that made me realize it was a
- 28:13Speaker 1: tough one for her.
- 28:14Speaker 2: And even even then.
- 28:18Speaker 1: Because she wrapped the show in an air, I saw something.
- 28:23Speaker 1: The light wasn't off, but it was dimming. And anybody, right, Claudia,
- 28:28Speaker 1: after you film reality show, the season may be over,
- 28:32Speaker 1: but you're still filming the residue from it. My hope
- 28:36Speaker 1: is that she does get back to enjoying herself. I
- 28:39Speaker 1: agree with you, I agree with Pinky, I agree with
- 28:41Speaker 1: Kim Michelle. I think that I do believe that Shmia
- 28:47Speaker 1: finally get it, gets it. I think she gets it
- 28:51Speaker 1: now the same way we all and I can say
- 28:53Speaker 1: this candidly, the same way we all have said, Kim
- 28:56Speaker 1: and show got it like she got it.
- 28:58Speaker 6: She got it, and I ain't said.
- 29:02Speaker 3: Yeah, it was like too other.
- 29:03Speaker 6: It was like I have not said that episodes.
- 29:06Speaker 7: It was too good episodes.
- 29:08Speaker 3: Truly, well, yeah, too many BLO episodes. She was the
- 29:15Speaker 3: last too.
- 29:15Speaker 7: At least at least there's an up.
- 29:17Speaker 6: And I mean the first fifteen was in the toilet.
- 29:19Speaker 4: Come on, friend, any job where you do good the
- 29:22Speaker 4: first two days and then you have twelve days of
- 29:25Speaker 4: not good and then the last two your boss will
- 29:27Speaker 4: be like, I know you fucking line.
- 29:30Speaker 3: But that show she has the potential.
- 29:32Speaker 5: She has it in her because she did it and
- 29:35Speaker 5: we've always known that, which is hints to the disappointment
- 29:37Speaker 5: right with the performance.
- 29:39Speaker 6: But my bad, I ain't mean to step on your girls.
- 29:41Speaker 3: Are holding out hop Yeah.
- 29:46Speaker 1: I should a follow Blues mandate and not spoke French
- 29:50Speaker 1: and said we I should have said.
- 29:53Speaker 6: Yeah, we don't.
- 30:00Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, God forbid the aries agreement with Carlo and Blue.
- 30:08Speaker 2: So listen, here's the deal, k Michelle and I will
- 30:24Speaker 2: go to bat for this. I said it.
- 30:27Speaker 1: And one thing about me, y'all know, I don't change
- 30:29Speaker 1: I feel I have said it from the beginning. Ky
- 30:32Speaker 1: Michelle was used to another show that she was on
- 30:36Speaker 1: for ten plus years. It's operatedly Clauda can attest to that, right, Claudia,
- 30:41Speaker 1: you Dumbo shows. It is two extremely different productions, And
- 30:47Speaker 1: I think she finally got it at the end.
- 30:50Speaker 2: Whether or not it was too late, I think it's
- 30:53Speaker 2: it's it's here.
- 30:53Speaker 1: And I do see her now reunion trailer like, that's
- 30:58Speaker 1: the That's the Chemist show I met two thousand and eleven,
- 31:01Speaker 1: Like I was proud of her at the reunion trailer.
- 31:04Speaker 1: So when it comes to Shamia, I do though Blue,
- 31:09Speaker 1: I think Shemiah today. I think today she does not
- 31:15Speaker 1: want to be friends with Porsche. I think she doesn't
- 31:19Speaker 1: miss Porsche. I think she's accepted the reality. And I
- 31:23Speaker 1: do see a lightnings. I was watching her two weeks
- 31:26Speaker 1: ago on Watch What Happens Live? Who Shamiyah was on
- 31:31Speaker 1: the On her last appearance on Watch What Happens Live?
- 31:35Speaker 1: She was first of all gorgeous. She looked absolutely it was.
- 31:40Speaker 2: Funny, she was funny, she was laughing, she had her
- 31:45Speaker 2: the spark was back in her eyes.
- 31:47Speaker 1: I'm telling y'all, I think Season eighteen could be one
- 31:49Speaker 1: for the books. Because Samia's back. Shamia is back, and
- 31:52Speaker 1: I think she's now saying fuck these hoes.
- 31:54Speaker 7: Know, I know you're right. The day that Porscha sent
- 31:56Speaker 7: that message on that tweet and I said, do you
- 32:00Speaker 7: think Shmiah's gonna respond, you were like, of course she is.
- 32:02Speaker 7: I was like, I hope she doesn't. And I didn't
- 32:04Speaker 7: see her go ape shit the way y'all warned me.
- 32:07Speaker 7: That felt like growth to me, Like that felt like
- 32:10Speaker 7: she the old Shamiyah when she was in the trenches
- 32:12Speaker 7: of feeling victimized. It would have been a back and forth,
- 32:15Speaker 7: the whole melee nasty, you go lo, I go to hell.
- 32:18Speaker 7: The fact that she had that restraint, that's what I've
- 32:20Speaker 7: been wishing for this entire time, the little bit of
- 32:22Speaker 7: the restraint that Pusha shown previously. I want Shmia to
- 32:25Speaker 7: have it so that they're they're equals. Like it's not
- 32:27Speaker 7: one person deregulated and the other person's strategic. I want
- 32:30Speaker 7: two strategic girls who are now veterans, who have learned
- 32:33Speaker 7: their hard knocks and who are here to play ball
- 32:35Speaker 7: and catch a check. That's what I want to see next.
- 32:37Speaker 3: Season from them.
- 32:38Speaker 6: Yeah, so.
- 32:40Speaker 5: I think that Shemiyah is getting a bad rap from everybody, right,
- 32:45Speaker 5: because who the fuck? And I love Pinky, love Pinky,
- 32:48Speaker 5: love her family, love her on a personal level, right,
- 32:50Speaker 5: But as far as the show, who in the hell
- 32:52Speaker 5: is Pinky to tell Shemiah that her light is damned?
- 32:55Speaker 5: If I was Shemia, even though they're right it has damned,
- 32:58Speaker 5: I would have cussed their ass out for saying some
- 33:00Speaker 5: shit like that to me. You know what I'm saying, Like,
- 33:03Speaker 5: what the fuck you mean?
- 33:04Speaker 6: Yo?
- 33:04Speaker 5: You better worry about jo Bob. You know what I'm
- 33:06Speaker 5: saying stuff worrying about mine? So and that's the level
- 33:10Speaker 5: of not giving a fuck. I want Shemiah to unlock, right.
- 33:13Speaker 5: I think she's under what far more intense scrutiny than
- 33:18Speaker 5: everybody else. I think everybody is monitoring Shemiah's behavior and
- 33:23Speaker 5: what she does and doesn't do in a way that
- 33:25Speaker 5: they're not monitoring. And take Porscha out of this, because
- 33:28Speaker 5: I'm not talking about I'm not looking at Shemiah's experience
- 33:31Speaker 5: versus Porscha's, I mean versus the rest of the cast.
- 33:35Speaker 5: I think Shemia is getting a hard time right now,
- 33:37Speaker 5: and I'll just leave it there. So I like the
- 33:42Speaker 5: fact that she's speaking up for herself. I like the
- 33:45Speaker 5: fact that next year, next season, like I believe, I
- 33:48Speaker 5: agree with you, Carlos, season eighteen, we're gonna get something
- 33:52Speaker 5: good because now these ladies are unlocking a level of
- 33:55Speaker 5: transparency and of honesty right and and and blunt honest
- 34:01Speaker 5: communication that is making for a thrilling watch. But I
- 34:05Speaker 5: do believe that Shamiah is under more intense scrutiny than
- 34:10Speaker 5: the rest.
- 34:10Speaker 6: Of the ladies. And I don't know really what that's
- 34:12Speaker 6: all about.
- 34:13Speaker 1: Well, well, because she said the last night, go ahead, Brisia, baby,
- 34:17Speaker 1: Brisia Webb, last night love that.
- 34:21Speaker 2: I think you are. We are more than welcome to
- 34:24Speaker 2: and bite you to join the four of us.
- 34:27Speaker 3: Rista you you clocked it.
- 34:28Speaker 4: So let me tell you watching this, this Shamiah has
- 34:33Speaker 4: lost her light. And why where is the bubbly Shamida
- 34:36Speaker 4: of yesteryear. I wish anyone would be in the position
- 34:40Speaker 4: to be everyone's punching bag, whether you earned.
- 34:43Speaker 7: It or not.
- 34:44Speaker 4: Human nature is gonna make you shut down a little bit.
- 34:46Speaker 4: You're not gonna be as bubbly because then.
- 34:48Speaker 3: When she was bubbly, y'all was calling a corny y'all's
- 34:50Speaker 3: calling herm notxious. She just irritates me. I don't know,
- 34:53Speaker 3: she's just doing too much. She's doing too much.
- 34:55Speaker 4: They all do too much in some regard, But for
- 34:57Speaker 4: some reason I agree she is just on a different
- 35:01Speaker 4: measuring sick or different ruler than everybody else. And I
- 35:05Speaker 4: will say this when you really think about it. Every
- 35:08Speaker 4: time someone has a scene with smiir they bring up
- 35:11Speaker 4: Porsche to her. And Shemiah has tried on multiple occasions
- 35:15Speaker 4: to say.
- 35:16Speaker 3: I don't want to talk about her, I don't want
- 35:17Speaker 3: to talk about her, but they keep bringing her up.
- 35:19Speaker 3: And then when she does respond, oh, you can't stop
- 35:21Speaker 3: keeping you got Porsche's name in your mouth. They don't
- 35:23Speaker 3: do that to Porsche. Every single scene with Porsche they're
- 35:26Speaker 3: allowed to talk about.
- 35:28Speaker 2: Why do you think that?
- 35:29Speaker 4: Well, first of all, she's she's not on the call
- 35:32Speaker 4: sheet now, right, So there's that, and they have other
- 35:35Speaker 4: things to talk about.
- 35:36Speaker 3: They have other things they talk about.
- 35:37Speaker 4: It's like a fuller friend experience with Porsche, right, They'll
- 35:40Speaker 4: talk about kids, they'll talk about dating, they'll talk about life,
- 35:43Speaker 4: they'll talk about everything else. But with Shemia, they only
- 35:46Speaker 4: want to make her existence on the show be about Porsche.
- 35:49Speaker 4: When she's over here trying to have a boy manage it,
- 35:53Speaker 4: her marriage, failing out, our business.
- 35:55Speaker 3: But that's still a storyline.
- 35:56Speaker 4: There's other things they can ask her about, but they
- 35:58Speaker 4: choose to always bring a Porsche. And I love Drew
- 36:02Speaker 4: and I love Angela, but they do bring her up
- 36:04Speaker 4: every time. And then, of course as I won't see
- 36:06Speaker 4: inexperience because she's been around for a while. It's a
- 36:09Speaker 4: huge difference. I need people to understand. He moongests difference
- 36:13Speaker 4: from being a friend of the show than being main
- 36:17Speaker 4: character housewife. It's two different experiences. A friend the show,
- 36:21Speaker 4: you are a plus one. You only can do a
- 36:22Speaker 4: scene when you the person you're attached to. You're the
- 36:25Speaker 4: satellite of that person, right, The person you're attached to
- 36:28Speaker 4: has their storyline and you chime in. It's never about
- 36:30Speaker 4: your life. So when you're it's about you, it's different.
- 36:32Speaker 4: It's just different, y'all. And so it's like an abuser
- 36:36Speaker 4: whooping their wife's ass, right, an abusive husband and then
- 36:39Speaker 4: being like, bitch, why don't you smile like you said
- 36:41Speaker 4: when we first got together, and you're like, but there
- 36:44Speaker 4: you go, complain it again. It's crazy to me, Like
- 36:48Speaker 4: and again, I'm not saying sham is guilt free and innocent.
- 36:53Speaker 4: She's done her stuff, but honestly, everyone on the show,
- 36:56Speaker 4: we can find something where people got caught in lies,
- 36:58Speaker 4: putting ten on twenty, not giving for multiple episodes and
- 37:02Speaker 4: a manch of time, okay, Michelle Phaedra, and they're always
- 37:05Speaker 4: forgiven for way worse offenses. I keep saying, what is
- 37:09Speaker 4: the what do they hate her so much?
- 37:11Speaker 3: Oh?
- 37:11Speaker 4: Because she talked about her friends you with Porsche when
- 37:13Speaker 4: all these people will do They've done so many things
- 37:16Speaker 4: on the show and they've managed to somehow get over
- 37:18Speaker 4: it right.
- 37:20Speaker 7: And the plus one is probably why they in her
- 37:23Speaker 7: mind because we said to the plus one and it
- 37:25Speaker 7: dropped something. Do you do the fact that for so
- 37:27Speaker 7: many years, the better part of her decade, Shamillah was
- 37:30Speaker 7: seen as Porsche's friend. That's why people can see Porsche
- 37:35Speaker 7: as a singular being but have a hard time seeing
- 37:37Speaker 7: Shamia without taking a Porsche. Because I have a friend
- 37:40Speaker 7: that I've reached to my friend group and they constantly
- 37:43Speaker 7: bring me up around this person because I like, to them,
- 37:47Speaker 7: that's Blue's friend, right, And I started saying, I want
- 37:50Speaker 7: you all to text her without me. I want you
- 37:52Speaker 7: all to talk to her without me. She's her own person.
- 37:55Speaker 7: I don't want to be involved. I had to explicitly
- 37:58Speaker 7: say it because it wasn't menacing. It was just like
- 38:00Speaker 7: that's blue friend who brought her into the group. So
- 38:02Speaker 7: I'm wondering, Yes, there's maneuvering, but do you think there's
- 38:04Speaker 7: also a part of them that always thinks of Shemiah
- 38:07Speaker 7: as Porscha's plus one, And now that they've fallen out,
- 38:10Speaker 7: maybe next season it'll be easy to see them as
- 38:13Speaker 7: through separate beings because the thought was so heavy.
- 38:15Speaker 4: Maybe, And let me just say, I think Shemia, you know,
- 38:18Speaker 4: on one regard she's called she's accused of being Porscha's representative,
- 38:23Speaker 4: lap dog, dick rider, all these things, but then also
- 38:27Speaker 4: being a hater. You can't be two things at once.
- 38:29Speaker 4: I'm sorry with this. I think she went so hard
- 38:31Speaker 4: for her friend. She put her own feeling to the back,
- 38:33Speaker 4: and let herself get clowned by her in other years,
- 38:36Speaker 4: and forgave stuff that she shouldn't have forgiven her four
- 38:38Speaker 4: years ago, and overlooked things because I think Shemiah had
- 38:41Speaker 4: a lower self esteem than Porsche.
- 38:42Speaker 3: I really do think that too. I agree and I
- 38:45Speaker 3: think you have friends. We can tell one can like
- 38:47Speaker 3: get away with a lot of stuff that the other
- 38:49Speaker 3: one would not be able to get away with. Like
- 38:51Speaker 3: when they remember Porsha and Shmi.
- 38:54Speaker 4: Were at a lunch or something, met up and Shami
- 38:56Speaker 4: was trying to express herself how she felt about something,
- 38:59Speaker 4: and the way that she was just like, are you done?
- 39:01Speaker 4: Like it was not even considering her friend's feelings. It
- 39:04Speaker 4: showed such an imbalance and that relationship and that happens,
- 39:07Speaker 4: and Shamiah Levy, girl, but that was your bad for
- 39:10Speaker 4: letting someone disrespect you for all the for way too
- 39:12Speaker 4: long and seeing you as a be character when you
- 39:15Speaker 4: saw yourself as finally like, oh we're we in this together.
- 39:19Speaker 4: I would like nothing else. A secure person will like
- 39:21Speaker 4: nothing else in their bestie to come on the show.
- 39:23Speaker 4: You'll imagine you're like someone that you really rock with
- 39:25Speaker 4: and you love. Were gonna run these girl were gonna
- 39:27Speaker 4: run circles together. Only one of them thought that, and
- 39:30Speaker 4: that was Shamiyah. Porchia was like, hmmm, not too much
- 39:33Speaker 4: on my job, not too much on my situation. But
- 39:35Speaker 4: it's not Porscha's show. She's not the executive producer She's
- 39:37Speaker 4: not any common and she's not Bravo, so you can't
- 39:39Speaker 4: dictate that.
- 39:40Speaker 3: You may feel a way, but I don't know.
- 39:42Speaker 4: I think that people are being unrealistic and what they
- 39:45Speaker 4: expected from Shamiyah to take the beats and the hits,
- 39:48Speaker 4: whether earned or not, and also have the audacity to
- 39:52Speaker 4: not be chipper. I would be chipper either. I would
- 39:54Speaker 4: not be chippy being ignored by someone I still probably love.
- 39:57Speaker 4: I'm still hurt by that. Shit hurts, It hurts. It's uncomfortable.
- 40:01Speaker 1: Yeah, and I want to say congratulations to her and
- 40:04Speaker 1: Geryl for the Sarah GETSI there as of I think
- 40:10Speaker 1: they said it was three months.
- 40:12Speaker 3: Yeah, anything, that's wonderful news.
- 40:18Speaker 7: That means okay, that means that we know the stork
- 40:20Speaker 7: is coming.
- 40:20Speaker 3: If Claudia can't say anywhere, wonderful yeah yeah.
- 40:23Speaker 1: So shout out to Gerald and Shamia. They are expecting.
- 40:28Speaker 1: So that that's great news and I can't wait to
- 40:30Speaker 1: see it. And not so great news, Drew. SOI doorra
- 40:34Speaker 1: shot a Seama her mother, and she's looking for a
- 40:38Speaker 1: new house. The house is one point three million, it
- 40:42Speaker 1: is over seven thousand square foot, have six bedrooms, and
- 40:47Speaker 1: she's looking for a new home because as we know
- 40:52Speaker 1: now right, so at the time of filming, they were
- 40:54Speaker 1: getting ready to go to court. What we do know
- 40:56Speaker 1: as of now, as of today, although it could be contested,
- 41:00Speaker 1: but as of now wrap allegedly it but is in
- 41:04Speaker 1: the document, was awarded full primary custody of the kids
- 41:10Speaker 1: and he also gets to keep the house and Drew
- 41:16Speaker 1: has to move out. So in this theme, which was
- 41:19Speaker 1: so it was so sad because look, I have been
- 41:23Speaker 1: hard on Shemia her first couple of seasons. I told
- 41:25Speaker 1: Shemia to her not Shemia, I'm sorry. I've been hard
- 41:28Speaker 1: on Drew her first couple of seasons. I've told Drew
- 41:31Speaker 1: to her face. It was giving me Tala Perry tes
- 41:34Speaker 1: some of the acting and the production her rap did.
- 41:38Speaker 1: She swore up and down to me, she said, Carlos,
- 41:40Speaker 1: I think that's hilarious. It was real, like I promise
- 41:42Speaker 1: she was real. I will say this was the realest
- 41:45Speaker 1: scene I've ever seen from Juice Dora. I honestly felt
- 41:49Speaker 1: bad for her as she was breaking down crying to
- 41:51Speaker 1: her mom because in this moment she is talking about
- 41:55Speaker 1: how Ralph does want full custody of the kids, starting
- 41:58Speaker 1: with you Blue do you think, Look what we have
- 42:03Speaker 1: seen the core documents was that allegedly, you.
- 42:06Speaker 2: Know, rap said that.
- 42:10Speaker 1: The kids were missing a lot of school, a lot
- 42:14Speaker 1: of school in addition to some other things, he did
- 42:19Speaker 1: get awarded full custody. As of now, what are your
- 42:24Speaker 1: thoughts on that, because the thing is it's not every
- 42:30Speaker 1: day that a mother gives rebuilt her rights of primary custody.
- 42:35Speaker 7: Yeah, I have a lot of questions, I hope. I
- 42:38Speaker 7: don't know if we know somebody who's read over the
- 42:40Speaker 7: entire transcript of what happened in court. I know, number one,
- 42:44Speaker 7: they usually side with the mother, so it is really
- 42:47Speaker 7: rare in extenuating circumstances for them to side with the husband.
- 42:50Speaker 7: But my first question was if the kids are missing school,
- 42:52Speaker 7: you in the basement, why is that not your fault too?
- 42:54Speaker 7: So I had confusion around that also to I will
- 42:58Speaker 7: say this, being a visible public figure who is perceived
- 43:03Speaker 7: to be a celebrity or a somebody who's well known
- 43:08Speaker 7: as a woman is the same thing as being a man. Unfortunately,
- 43:11Speaker 7: in the eyes of many, like women who are considered
- 43:14Speaker 7: boss babes are seen like absene fathers because the assumption
- 43:18Speaker 7: is you can't have at all. And since you want
- 43:20Speaker 7: to be a boss baby, couldn't possibly also be a
- 43:22Speaker 7: good mother. I've always thought that was a really unfair
- 43:24Speaker 7: thing to do, because we don't do it to men
- 43:26Speaker 7: when they're good fathers. Like if a man's a good father,
- 43:28Speaker 7: if he just like pushes a bike, we all want
- 43:30Speaker 7: a clap for him. So I was sad when she
- 43:33Speaker 7: said that he was weaponizing her actual career against her
- 43:37Speaker 7: as a way to stack the deck. And because they're
- 43:40Speaker 7: in Georgia, where savvy around entertainment, you would think, but
- 43:45Speaker 7: places like Georgia are very conservative when it comes to
- 43:47Speaker 7: family law. Don't mistake the fact that Atlanta is seen
- 43:51Speaker 7: as a hub for entertainment for the judicial system. The
- 43:53Speaker 7: judicial is actually incredibly conservative at times in Georgia. And
- 43:57Speaker 7: if he was speaking like, look, I make good money.
- 44:00Speaker 7: She's always running around in lays front and on yachts
- 44:02Speaker 7: and going to different things with a camera crew. I
- 44:05Speaker 7: can see how an old school judge who doesn't have
- 44:07Speaker 7: any cultural competency would be swayed by the picture that
- 44:10Speaker 7: he drew, even though we know better. And I hate that.
- 44:14Speaker 7: And one thing that she said that broke my heart is,
- 44:16Speaker 7: how do you think it feels to know that the
- 44:18Speaker 7: man that you tried to do life with thinks you're
- 44:20Speaker 7: a bad mother. That like, I really almost cried when
- 44:24Speaker 7: she said that. And so I think of everybody that
- 44:27Speaker 7: we've seen this season. I know it's funny to say, Pink,
- 44:31Speaker 7: you do something more than work. And I know we
- 44:33Speaker 7: all have strong emotions about what's happening with Shin, me
- 44:35Speaker 7: and Portie. I think silently, the person who's been going
- 44:37Speaker 7: through the most of the season is actually Drewe and
- 44:41Speaker 7: it actually breaks my heart.
- 44:42Speaker 2: And what I do want to say, I'm gonna get
- 44:44Speaker 2: to you next, Dustin. What I do want to do
- 44:46Speaker 2: is read what reportedly.
- 44:49Speaker 1: Has been awarded to rap So Druse Door temporarily lost
- 44:55Speaker 1: primary physical custody of her two children the court ling
- 45:00Speaker 1: in April of this year. The temporary change occurred during
- 45:04Speaker 1: their ongoing divorce proceedings. A judge awarded Wrap primary physical
- 45:09Speaker 1: custody during the school year after claims were raised regarding
- 45:13Speaker 1: excessive school absences and tardiness while the children were induced care.
- 45:18Speaker 1: Both parents continue to share joint legal custody of the children.
- 45:23Speaker 1: Drew was granted parenting time on alternating weekends, and the
- 45:29Speaker 1: Representatives for Drew emphasized that the ruling was part of
- 45:33Speaker 1: an interim temporary order and not a final, permanent custody decision.
- 45:40Speaker 2: Because of that, though, as of now, that same order has.
- 45:44Speaker 1: Instructed Drew to vacate the home, and Drew defile court
- 45:49Speaker 1: documents expressing excuse me concern over the timeline and financial strain,
- 45:55Speaker 1: noting that the ongoing litigation was still moving.
- 46:00Speaker 2: Through the child support arrangements. So that's the latest. But
- 46:06Speaker 2: that's some of your thoughts on it.
- 46:07Speaker 1: I mean, look, a lot of people have said that
- 46:10Speaker 1: Ralph's the bad guy and all of this because of
- 46:12Speaker 1: what man would do it to a woman. There are
- 46:14Speaker 1: some people also who have said, look, if what they're
- 46:17Speaker 1: reading is true, Ralph has every right as the father
- 46:21Speaker 1: to invoke something if it relates to the childcare of
- 46:24Speaker 1: his children going to school.
- 46:26Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 46:26Speaker 5: Well, I don't have no damn kids, but I know
- 46:29Speaker 5: one of the worst things you can do is call
- 46:31Speaker 5: someone with kids a bad parent, especially in this patriarchal
- 46:35Speaker 5: ass society we live in. It's even worse for women,
- 46:38Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. If you call a woman
- 46:40Speaker 5: a bad mother, that's worse than probably anything that you
- 46:44Speaker 5: can use to insult them right in their character, and
- 46:47Speaker 5: so it is rare that you see a father paint
- 46:52Speaker 5: a mom out to be a bad mother when you
- 46:54Speaker 5: haven't seen I mean, we only get a glimpse into
- 46:56Speaker 5: their personal life, right, but we've seen you be adoting
- 47:00Speaker 5: attentive mother to her children on camera multiple times, even
- 47:03Speaker 5: when they've been on trips. We've seen her make sure
- 47:05Speaker 5: she's face timing, bringing up specific occurrences that are happening
- 47:11Speaker 5: in the children's lives. So we haven't seen her be
- 47:13Speaker 5: a bad mom. So it's kind of jarring to hear that.
- 47:17Speaker 5: But those kids need to go to school. And if
- 47:19Speaker 5: the kids had excessive absences and relph is in a
- 47:22Speaker 5: better position and make sure that they are not truant, right,
- 47:27Speaker 5: then great, maybe that's where they need to go, you know,
- 47:30Speaker 5: eat breakfast and go to school in the morning. From
- 47:33Speaker 5: But attacking her motherhood is something that I'm sure is
- 47:36Speaker 5: devastating to her on a personal and emotional level in
- 47:39Speaker 5: ways that I can't comprehend. So it's kind of like
- 47:42Speaker 5: a final blow when it comes to going back and
- 47:45Speaker 5: forth or trying to take a jab at somebody. I
- 47:48Speaker 5: don't really know what motivated Ralph beyond what we've ascertained
- 47:52Speaker 5: from the court documents about the children missing days of school.
- 47:56Speaker 5: I'm not sure what motivated him to that boundary, across
- 48:01Speaker 5: that line with her when it comes to them being
- 48:04Speaker 5: combative with one another. I'm not sure what motivated him
- 48:07Speaker 5: to go that far to paint her as a bad mom.
- 48:10Speaker 5: So I just wish peace for their children. The children
- 48:14Speaker 5: have always appeared to be well taken care of, well adjusted,
- 48:19Speaker 5: bright personalities, So I hope what I hope the children
- 48:23Speaker 5: get the best outcome. And like I said, that's crossing
- 48:27Speaker 5: the line for sure, So hopefully masculated.
- 48:31Speaker 7: Dustin't because you know what men feel masculated, They suddenly
- 48:33Speaker 7: they get real nasty. I'm wondering if I was thinking
- 48:36Speaker 7: that calling them with a bad mother is like the
- 48:39Speaker 7: feminine equivalent to masculating a.
- 48:41Speaker 6: Man mm hm.
- 48:42Speaker 7: And so it's almost like there were so many jokes
- 48:44Speaker 7: about him being emasculated.
- 48:45Speaker 6: It almost in the basement and not working and shit,
- 48:48Speaker 6: and look back.
- 48:49Speaker 7: To like, yeah, well you're gonna attack my manhood. I
- 48:51Speaker 7: want to attack your womanhood. That's nasty work. If that's
- 48:53Speaker 7: what's happening in legislation.
- 48:55Speaker 5: Yeah, well one thing, but even with that, right, Because
- 48:58Speaker 5: when you think back to like season fifteen, when Drew
- 49:01Speaker 5: was on the reunion and she was acting aloof to
- 49:06Speaker 5: kind of like summ of Ralph's tactics or whatever, and
- 49:08Speaker 5: she was saying how he had beat the I R. S.
- 49:10Speaker 5: Drew never painted Ralph as shiftless and unemployed, right, I
- 49:15Speaker 5: don't remember remember her doing that. If anything, I remember
- 49:18Speaker 5: her painting him as cunning and strategic and you know,
- 49:23Speaker 5: a person who would go the extra mile through work
- 49:27Speaker 5: related means to get things done. She painted him as
- 49:30Speaker 5: a high earner. So it's just it's odd to me.
- 49:34Speaker 5: I do think that the two character assassinations are akin
- 49:38Speaker 5: to one another, right, But yeah, that's just a lot
- 49:43Speaker 5: to me to say, your kids, Mama, don't give a
- 49:44Speaker 5: fuck about him.
- 49:46Speaker 6: I don't know.
- 49:50Speaker 3: It's hard to know the real with these cases.
- 49:54Speaker 4: And if you all have friends that are going through
- 49:55Speaker 4: like a nasty, custy battle with their ex, whether they're
- 49:58Speaker 4: not on good terms one partners mad that it didn't.
- 50:02Speaker 3: Work out or whatever their issues are.
- 50:04Speaker 4: There's so many ways to weaponize the system, especially in
- 50:07Speaker 4: the South. My eyes have been so open living down
- 50:11Speaker 4: here in Texas.
- 50:12Speaker 3: Well, I'm in Rhode Island now.
- 50:13Speaker 4: But when I was living in Texas, living in Georgia,
- 50:17Speaker 4: and I have friends in Florida going through like nasty
- 50:19Speaker 4: Cussey battles, and the ways that they lean towards the fathers.
- 50:24Speaker 4: You would think it'd be towards the mothers, it's not.
- 50:26Speaker 4: And they do, like Blue said, they are very really
- 50:28Speaker 4: conservative judges. And a lot of times the female judges
- 50:31Speaker 4: are even worse than the men because they don't want
- 50:33Speaker 4: to do what they can ad buy it to the mothers.
- 50:34Speaker 4: And a lot of times they're a lot hotter on
- 50:36Speaker 4: the mothers than they are on the fathers. When a
- 50:38Speaker 4: father misses appointment after appointment, have to pick up after
- 50:41Speaker 4: pick up at the date, and says I had to work,
- 50:44Speaker 4: and then when he does the minimum, it's well, he's
- 50:46Speaker 4: trying to be a good dad. And then when a
- 50:50Speaker 4: mom is trying to balance motherhood and having an actual
- 50:52Speaker 4: career and working and not just leaching out this man,
- 50:55Speaker 4: you know, she's unfit. She's not prioritizing her children because
- 50:58Speaker 4: they still have his idea in America, in the world
- 51:02Speaker 4: that a woman's first and only priority should be the
- 51:05Speaker 4: children and work is work.
- 51:07Speaker 3: Goals be damned. I mean look out.
- 51:08Speaker 4: They dragged Ice of Curry for having the audacity to say,
- 51:12Speaker 4: sometimes I just happen to wonder what I could have been,
- 51:15Speaker 4: not saying I hate my life.
- 51:16Speaker 6: I just wonder.
- 51:17Speaker 3: They dragged her.
- 51:18Speaker 4: They say she wants to be with other men, And
- 51:20Speaker 4: this is how I look at this broad They drag her,
- 51:23Speaker 4: and I think I have a friend that a really
- 51:26Speaker 4: good friend that I'm witnessing the way that this man
- 51:29Speaker 4: will her baby, will miss phone calls with the daughter
- 51:33Speaker 4: and ask her to switch dates, and she'll always accommodate.
- 51:36Speaker 4: But the one time she'll asks, he won't do what
- 51:39Speaker 4: he refused, or he'll set her up to get a
- 51:41Speaker 4: missed phone call, and then that goes on her record
- 51:44Speaker 4: and they build a case against you. It's also they
- 51:46Speaker 4: don't have to pay you child support, right, it ain't
- 51:49Speaker 4: really about the well being of the kid. A lot
- 51:52Speaker 4: of times, not saying a round, but a lot of
- 51:54Speaker 4: times they will weaponize the system against the moms.
- 51:56Speaker 3: Now, and yes, the pendulum it does swim both ways.
- 52:00Speaker 4: Maybe there are a lot there were some women that
- 52:01Speaker 4: were abusing the system, but damn it, let's not act
- 52:04Speaker 4: like there are men that do the same.
- 52:05Speaker 3: Not saying Ralphis. But let's keep off.
- 52:10Speaker 1: Yeah, and when I say both on me Drew Raph,
- 52:12Speaker 1: I don't know nothing about Drew and Ralph situation that
- 52:15Speaker 1: you know. Listen, drews appealing and we'll see what happens.
- 52:18Speaker 1: What I will say, based on my knowledge of other people.
- 52:20Speaker 1: Once again, this is not related to jew and Ralph.
- 52:23Speaker 1: I will say that, Claudia. Unfortunately from my experience with
- 52:27Speaker 1: other women who I know I have, I know women
- 52:33Speaker 1: who have used the system to make their men appear
- 52:41Speaker 1: to be non active bothers. I know women who have
- 52:46Speaker 1: encouraged a lot of things, and it is it is
- 52:51Speaker 1: unfortunate too, because I do want to say this, there
- 52:54Speaker 1: are some men who actually want to be in their kids' lives.
- 52:59Speaker 1: You know this, this whole stereotype that you know black
- 53:03Speaker 1: men are diaby dad. Statistics have shown that that's not
- 53:05Speaker 1: the case.
- 53:08Speaker 7: Present white father's. That's my favorite stat Black men marry
- 53:12Speaker 7: women more Black men are better fathers, and so we
- 53:15Speaker 7: were conflating marriage with fatherhood than they're different exactly.
- 53:19Speaker 2: So I will say that.
- 53:21Speaker 1: And again this is once again because no clip this,
- 53:24Speaker 1: I'm not talking about you and round. What I am
- 53:27Speaker 1: saying is I personally know, women who have lied under oath.
- 53:32Speaker 6: That's awful to paint their.
- 53:37Speaker 1: Child father as a bad person because they wanted to
- 53:42Speaker 1: teach him a lesson. And what I do think is
- 53:46Speaker 1: it is happening. Like Claudia said, the pendulum has ship swifted,
- 53:51Speaker 1: for sure. But I do think what is unfortunate is
- 53:55Speaker 1: for both parties. What has what has been lost in
- 53:58Speaker 1: all of this is what's best for the kids.
- 54:01Speaker 6: Do you know what I mean?
- 54:02Speaker 1: And and and that's what makes me sad because your
- 54:05Speaker 1: children and this is this is what I don't think
- 54:08Speaker 1: parents understand.
- 54:09Speaker 2: I don't care if they two or twelve, they will
- 54:13Speaker 2: always remember what you put them through.
- 54:16Speaker 7: Absolutely, my parents all the time.
- 54:20Speaker 3: Sh yeah, it's yeah.
- 54:24Speaker 4: I had some experience being around Drew, of course outside
- 54:28Speaker 4: of Housewives, but I'm not on that. But like, just
- 54:29Speaker 4: so like we had to like spend a lot of
- 54:32Speaker 4: time together last year when we were promoting our movie Run.
- 54:35Speaker 4: And when I tell you that girl was working herself
- 54:38Speaker 4: damn at her death and trying to be all things
- 54:40Speaker 4: that everyone trying to be on set. She would leave
- 54:43Speaker 4: one set, she would leave the movie, fly back to Atlanta,
- 54:47Speaker 4: do something with her kids. Film Uh, you know, film
- 54:51Speaker 4: some scenes over there, come back. She was working herself
- 54:54Speaker 4: so hard and going back and forth that she got pneumonia.
- 54:56Speaker 4: She went to the hospital more than once, and she
- 54:59Speaker 4: was really, really sick, and I remember being like, damn,
- 55:01Speaker 4: she was facetimon She was like she was not sitting down,
- 55:05Speaker 4: and it almost.
- 55:06Speaker 3: Felt she was frantic, like I have to do this.
- 55:08Speaker 6: I got to miss school.
- 55:10Speaker 3: Yeah, probably.
- 55:15Speaker 7: He's back. I had a Fatia was about to drop.
- 55:18Speaker 7: Here it comes Dustin.
- 55:19Speaker 3: Go ahead, Claudia, And I remember being the er and
- 55:23Speaker 3: I was like, damn, so imagine that. And then you
- 55:26Speaker 3: got this guy yeah before.
- 55:28Speaker 7: Just waiting for you to fuck up so he could
- 55:30Speaker 7: tell the judge.
- 55:34Speaker 5: I want to make a note here, right, just because
- 55:37Speaker 5: Drew does not have traditional custody or whatever the specifics
- 55:42Speaker 5: of their agreement is, we are living in twenty twenty six,
- 55:46Speaker 5: that does not mean that that she loves her pildren
- 55:49Speaker 5: any less. They can have a different family structure that
- 55:52Speaker 5: that that does benefit the children beds and maybe that
- 55:56Speaker 5: does look like Ralph taking him to school.
- 55:58Speaker 6: We don't know what the fuck that means.
- 56:00Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, But I just don't want
- 56:02Speaker 5: to shame Drew, and I don't want people to misunderstand
- 56:06Speaker 5: the fact that that judgment or whatever that does not
- 56:09Speaker 5: then equate to Drew being a bad mom. That's just
- 56:12Speaker 5: what their family structure looks like right now. And I
- 56:15Speaker 5: just want to I don't want to conflate the two.
- 56:17Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, Yeah, I want I.
- 56:19Speaker 1: Want to say again represent to Tiest for Drusi, Doorra
- 56:23Speaker 1: said and I quote that the ruling was part of
- 56:27Speaker 1: an interim temporary order and not a final permanent custody decision.
- 56:36Speaker 1: So Reps for Drusi Dora said that this is not
- 56:39Speaker 1: a final permanent but just one in the meantime.
- 56:44Speaker 7: I say that because the scream made it looked like
- 56:46Speaker 7: she was going to like the screaming, it looked bad.
- 56:48Speaker 1: Well, well, the thing is this, Well reason why I
- 56:52Speaker 1: was like, damn, you want to jail? Like yeah, and
- 56:54Speaker 1: the reason right, no real talk and the reason why
- 56:57Speaker 1: I wanted to. I want to make it very clear
- 57:00Speaker 1: the court documents have stated everything we talked about, and
- 57:03Speaker 1: I want to make clear that drews Raps outside of
- 57:06Speaker 1: what we read the court documents, Drews Reps said that
- 57:10Speaker 1: what we read is just temporary.
- 57:17Speaker 4: Back to the thing, about the South cast is I
- 57:19Speaker 4: am thank you for the ladies in the comments that
- 57:21Speaker 4: are saying they are going through similar things in the
- 57:23Speaker 4: South and sharing like how the system really is really
- 57:27Speaker 4: not fair.
- 57:28Speaker 3: Right, I know someone I know, y'all you have a
- 57:32Speaker 3: story for everybody. Listen.
- 57:33Speaker 4: I'm fifty three, I have I've lived a lot of life, Okay,
- 57:35Speaker 4: I got a lot of people, I got a lot
- 57:36Speaker 4: of friends that the baby daddy right was how to
- 57:41Speaker 4: take a psychological test and was diagnosed as a sociopath,
- 57:45Speaker 4: and that was not enough to stop to stop them
- 57:49Speaker 4: from handing over way too much time to this man.
- 57:53Speaker 4: They said it was one of the worst cases they've
- 57:54Speaker 4: ever seen. Okay, one of the worst cases they ever seen,
- 57:59Speaker 4: and they still let unsupervised visits happened. And my friend
- 58:02Speaker 4: was fighting, fighting, fighting, fighting, and it was horrible. She
- 58:04Speaker 4: was she she was drained her all her money going
- 58:07Speaker 4: through this. But then when you don't have money to
- 58:09Speaker 4: fight and against one of these motions and you lose
- 58:11Speaker 4: because of that, on paper, it looks like, oh, you
- 58:14Speaker 4: lost custody, or you're a.
- 58:16Speaker 3: Bad mom, you're unfit.
- 58:17Speaker 4: No, it really goes deep in that there's so much
- 58:20Speaker 4: financial abuse that happens, especially if the one parent has
- 58:24Speaker 4: way more money than the other. They can like beat
- 58:27Speaker 4: you on paper. You know, they can piss the whip
- 58:30Speaker 4: you through lawyers and fees and you can every time
- 58:32Speaker 4: they file in emotion. You gotta respond. And when you
- 58:35Speaker 4: run out of money, you stop responding, you try to
- 58:37Speaker 4: represent yourself, you start losing, and then they'd be like, oh,
- 58:39Speaker 4: unfit mother, and you can't say anything publicly about that
- 58:43Speaker 4: person or they will that be another ding against you.
- 58:46Speaker 3: And it happens to others all the time.
- 58:47Speaker 4: There's so many women that have their kids taking away
- 58:49Speaker 4: from them and put in danger and custody with these
- 58:52Speaker 4: these abusive fathers or mothers.
- 58:55Speaker 3: And it's really bad, y'all. We need a whole overhaul
- 58:58Speaker 3: in Ron.
- 58:58Speaker 4: DeSantis, in Florida, Marble and a lot of states in
- 59:01Speaker 4: South greg abb in Texas and Georgia is not too
- 59:07Speaker 4: far behind with some of these wats. I'm telling you,
- 59:09Speaker 4: they are letting kids be handed over to abusive parents.
- 59:13Speaker 4: So because they're so afraid of what we don't want
- 59:15Speaker 4: to keep.
- 59:16Speaker 6: That you know, we're not talking about yeah, because you
- 59:21Speaker 6: know what they're gonna do.
- 59:22Speaker 4: And I'm not clumping Southern men. I'm saying the system, y'all,
- 59:25Speaker 4: and there's also unfit mothers. I'm saying, the system is
- 59:28Speaker 4: very skewed.
- 59:29Speaker 3: You just can't run with.
- 59:30Speaker 6: Kim's ghetto ass. Kim's Osiak Prime.
- 59:34Speaker 5: You know, don't damn money going with that lady husband. Now,
- 59:39Speaker 5: there's always some ghetto shit going on in that camp.
- 59:42Speaker 5: You've seen the ladies.
- 59:43Speaker 6: She's going with some ladies husband, and now the lady
- 59:46Speaker 6: allegedly going with Croy again.
- 59:49Speaker 7: Oh yes, the parking lot. Her new boyfriend's ex and
- 59:54Speaker 7: Croy were spotted making eyes at each other in the
- 59:57Speaker 7: parking lot like they had a wife swap.
- 59:59Speaker 6: Got a fuck the too, if I was. You know
- 1:00:00Speaker 6: what I'm saying, I've.
- 1:00:03Speaker 7: Done that for real. So I've looked at clean life,
- 1:00:07Speaker 7: but I have moments.
- 1:00:09Speaker 6: Yeah, that's we need love and country.
- 1:00:14Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
- 1:00:16Speaker 5: To follow and let them cameras follow Kim and Kroy
- 1:00:18Speaker 5: and all them goddamn cheering, you know what I'm saying,
- 1:00:21Speaker 5: all them them children running them up over there in
- 1:00:23Speaker 5: that house.
- 1:00:25Speaker 7: See do you see that his car said hide me Jesus.
- 1:00:28Speaker 6: Yeah, because we're talking Kim, that's why you like you
- 1:00:32Speaker 6: love him?
- 1:00:33Speaker 3: You love.
- 1:00:34Speaker 2: So one thing that happened in this episode, that's sort of.
- 1:00:43Speaker 1: Him.
- 1:00:44Speaker 2: I want to get.
- 1:00:45Speaker 3: Figure out Bazosia. Do you love him?
- 1:00:48Speaker 7: Not Kardashian Zosiac.
- 1:00:50Speaker 3: So that's that Kardashian. No, I think he.
- 1:00:53Speaker 7: I know he likes Kim Kardashian, but I want.
- 1:00:55Speaker 3: To make sure we love.
- 1:01:00Speaker 6: Tell them one this guy young we need love and
- 1:01:02Speaker 6: blue Grass.
- 1:01:07Speaker 3: We love and cigarette.
- 1:01:12Speaker 2: I love your child first of all, not gonna say
- 1:01:16Speaker 2: love in new Ports. I can't rock.
- 1:01:22Speaker 6: I love me too.
- 1:01:24Speaker 2: So I love all the girls.
- 1:01:29Speaker 7: You know, man, we can't talk.
- 1:01:32Speaker 1: But honestly, little quick story, I was talking to it
- 1:01:35Speaker 1: about girls today and we were just I just wanted
- 1:01:40Speaker 1: to talk to her, and long story short, she was like,
- 1:01:46Speaker 1: I know you love us, and.
- 1:01:47Speaker 2: I said, I love all your girls.
- 1:01:48Speaker 11: And she said, I know you have a hard job
- 1:01:52Speaker 11: to do sometimes. And I said, you know what it is,
- 1:01:55Speaker 11: what it is, I said, I want all you girls
- 1:01:57Speaker 11: to know. I stick to the episode and I'm my
- 1:02:01Speaker 11: business and it is.
- 1:02:06Speaker 2: Atlanta. I won't say this. The thing is, I'm no longer.
- 1:02:14Speaker 3: I'm no longer.
- 1:02:15Speaker 1: I think it's hard. It used to be hard. And
- 1:02:17Speaker 1: Claudia doesn't know this. Blue It used to be very
- 1:02:19Speaker 1: hard for me. But I will say this, I have
- 1:02:21Speaker 1: made a decisions now because listen, I don't know what's
- 1:02:26Speaker 1: having my life, Carmen Jennifer Hudson. I am changing dream
- 1:02:29Speaker 1: Girl soundtrack. The thing is, I feel like as long
- 1:02:33Speaker 1: as I stick to the episode, even if if you
- 1:02:37Speaker 1: if you're mad at me for talking about the episode,
- 1:02:41Speaker 1: then there's nothing I can to help you.
- 1:02:44Speaker 2: So I mean that's I'm being nice about it. I don't,
- 1:02:49Speaker 2: but I will say, Hi, Kim Zosiak and Kardashian. So
- 1:02:54Speaker 2: I want to get to Cather.
- 1:02:58Speaker 6: She ain't here that she had the casino.
- 1:03:02Speaker 2: Where Scooter.
- 1:03:03Speaker 1: So speaking of what's going on with dad, Kelly met
- 1:03:06Speaker 1: with Pedra. So Claudia Phedra is Kelly's attorney. Sorry, go ahead,
- 1:03:17Speaker 1: we all just work here. Go ahead, carls oh So,
- 1:03:21Speaker 1: Dustin you good?
- 1:03:23Speaker 6: Mm hmmm. This Kim Zosi texting me, I.
- 1:03:34Speaker 2: Bought up okay.
- 1:03:35Speaker 1: So Caedra is representing Kelly as they are going through
- 1:03:41Speaker 1: you know, Kelly's custodial situation, child support, back, child support,
- 1:03:48Speaker 1: you know her with her ex husband.
- 1:03:51Speaker 2: Pedra is at the law firm, she has her she
- 1:03:59Speaker 2: has a team of people.
- 1:04:02Speaker 7: I'm not.
- 1:04:03Speaker 2: I'm not doing it to day. I'm not.
- 1:04:05Speaker 3: I'm not why you make that face. So I wasn't
- 1:04:07Speaker 3: gonna say that you make that face.
- 1:04:10Speaker 2: In order for me not to laugh, I have to
- 1:04:11Speaker 2: breathe and breathe out, okay.
- 1:04:14Speaker 7: Or was it like an actual law office? Okay, your
- 1:04:21Speaker 7: producer just want into the logistics.
- 1:04:24Speaker 3: That was a real team.
- 1:04:26Speaker 6: I would have had that ship at the funeral home
- 1:04:28Speaker 6: if follows her.
- 1:04:31Speaker 2: Dead Blue asked if Phaeder was working out a we work.
- 1:04:36Speaker 2: I just I just want to know.
- 1:04:37Speaker 7: I want to learn from you as a producer.
- 1:04:40Speaker 3: Notice, I'm not saying anything. It's Blue. Y'all be mad
- 1:04:42Speaker 3: at her. Don't be mad at me this week.
- 1:04:44Speaker 7: I don't care for it.
- 1:04:46Speaker 3: Then I got to say I so.
- 1:04:50Speaker 1: Phaeda followed emotion, followed the motion for child support payments,
- 1:04:57Speaker 1: and she also followed the emotion to have a kids
- 1:05:00Speaker 1: shut on TV. Kelly looked busily sad what was going on?
- 1:05:05Speaker 1: In the end, Phaedra bought her a Breastplate of Righteousness,
- 1:05:10Speaker 1: which was a gift bag with a brawl Blue to
- 1:05:14Speaker 1: loose mup? What did you think of dress scene with
- 1:05:17Speaker 1: her legal team and buying Kelly?
- 1:05:20Speaker 3: A video review? Nineteen I will limp it.
- 1:05:37Speaker 7: Look, but God give Bobby Brown, so let me blue
- 1:05:43Speaker 7: to not okay? So, I mean Kelly looked nice and
- 1:05:48Speaker 7: she is Brown lawyer at Onesie. I didn't realize they were.
- 1:05:52Speaker 2: That close by the way up Blue. Kelly says, Hi, No,
- 1:05:57Speaker 2: she didn't said she liked pink.
- 1:06:02Speaker 7: I got people to don't play with Look, Kelly, I'm
- 1:06:08Speaker 7: you being offended by objective reasoning doesn't surprising me. It's
- 1:06:10Speaker 7: the cases. So I look, man, I.
- 1:06:18Speaker 3: Curls.
- 1:06:18Speaker 7: You can't you turning red? Friend?
- 1:06:19Speaker 9: You turn I don't know what's first of all, I
- 1:06:22Speaker 9: don't know if the spirit of justice hire tonight and
- 1:06:27Speaker 9: I am turning red. I've never seen a red nipples
- 1:06:30Speaker 9: on the black man.
- 1:06:31Speaker 7: Yes, go ahead, friend.
- 1:06:33Speaker 3: He gonna do menopause. The menopause that he's gonna do.
- 1:06:37Speaker 4: The menopause should be going to you know who you hire, sir?
- 1:06:40Speaker 4: If you adjusting his are you adjusting a penis?
- 1:06:42Speaker 7: Yes?
- 1:06:43Speaker 2: Because it was.
- 1:06:49Speaker 1: Exercise.
- 1:06:50Speaker 7: You a lie. She did a whole lie.
- 1:06:54Speaker 6: She did not say that.
- 1:06:56Speaker 1: He literally didn't say all little back, ask Claudia the
- 1:07:01Speaker 1: hands what they just did to you?
- 1:07:04Speaker 2: They have me the Claudia. They want to go under
- 1:07:08Speaker 2: a housewart pages, Claudia said, fuck you bitch, and look
- 1:07:13Speaker 2: I'm gonna like Clauia did not say that now she
- 1:07:17Speaker 2: said this, but no, I actually.
- 1:07:20Speaker 7: Don't have any beef for Kelly. In fact, I went
- 1:07:22Speaker 7: back and watched episodes. There's episodes where me, Claudia, and
- 1:07:25Speaker 7: Dustin are all saying she needs to say because she's
- 1:07:27Speaker 7: working for her check.
- 1:07:28Speaker 6: I personally yes, the fact that we.
- 1:07:31Speaker 7: All echoed each other repeatedly. What I think is happening
- 1:07:34Speaker 7: is she probably first away by when I said about Shamiyah,
- 1:07:36Speaker 7: and she's being protected from her friend. And as someone
- 1:07:39Speaker 7: who's had friends be attacked publicly and I protected them,
- 1:07:41Speaker 7: I can't hate on that. I'm prussell bridge of Kelly.
- 1:07:43Speaker 7: You talk about her now we got we got beef.
- 1:07:45Speaker 7: So I'm not a hypocrite. I understand the game. So yes,
- 1:07:48Speaker 7: keep liking Pink. So like I was saying about Kelly,
- 1:07:50Speaker 7: and and and I think that a broken clock is
- 1:07:54Speaker 7: right twice a day. And despite what Claudia might have
- 1:07:57Speaker 7: informed us, being a journalistic, you know from the night
- 1:08:00Speaker 7: teen hundreds about Bobby Brown's that maybe in this instance
- 1:08:05Speaker 7: Phedro could actually figure that out and do something with
- 1:08:08Speaker 7: a living body, right, So yeah, I you can't be
- 1:08:13Speaker 7: a standard and a hand me down.
- 1:08:15Speaker 6: But so I'm I'm a living.
- 1:08:20Speaker 7: You know, I'm trying. Okay, I'm doing my best.
- 1:08:28Speaker 3: What are you trying then?
- 1:08:31Speaker 2: What are you trying trying to the standards?
- 1:08:35Speaker 7: The standards if Marlow Hampton didn't happen.
- 1:08:38Speaker 3: So remember two ways ago Blues and I have nothing
- 1:08:45Speaker 3: against Kelly have everything Kelly.
- 1:08:48Speaker 7: No, I have nothing against Kelly, but I also have
- 1:08:50Speaker 7: Wi Fi and I watched I also have Wi Fi.
- 1:08:58Speaker 2: Right, I'm gonna give. I'm gonna give as you.
- 1:09:04Speaker 7: Deserve an Emmy because the way you just kept your
- 1:09:07Speaker 7: face in one piece, the lies, the lies you almost
- 1:09:15Speaker 7: broke that lady kept talking and Carlos just kept counting
- 1:09:21Speaker 7: backage from one hundred, and you saw his spirit leave
- 1:09:23Speaker 7: his body. He's like, it's gonna be the best clip.
- 1:09:26Speaker 7: I'm gonna give five billions. Kelly paid the way for
- 1:09:31Speaker 7: it for Kelly. So no, I will say this. Here's
- 1:09:35Speaker 7: the thing that I think is gonna sound crazy. I
- 1:09:37Speaker 7: actually a part of me wishes that Kelly and Drew
- 1:09:39Speaker 7: could figure out how to do a truce because they're
- 1:09:42Speaker 7: both going through similar things right now, like have you
- 1:09:46Speaker 7: noticed that, Like they're both going through husbands who are
- 1:09:48Speaker 7: are doing weird things with children and the footage, they're
- 1:09:51Speaker 7: both going through a dark knight of the soul. They're
- 1:09:53Speaker 7: both sting his weak links will get picked on a lot.
- 1:09:55Speaker 7: They're both feisty and hard to kill. I kind of
- 1:09:58Speaker 7: like a bitch that you y'all know. I don't like
- 1:10:00Speaker 7: anybody who's pussy. The one thing I will give Kelly,
- 1:10:02Speaker 7: even if she comes up my leg and tries to
- 1:10:04Speaker 7: drag my wig. I like her spunk. I like her. Yes, yes,
- 1:10:08Speaker 7: if Kelly was in the room, she and I would
- 1:10:10Speaker 7: be going back and forth. I like that shit. I
- 1:10:12Speaker 7: respect it right. So I'm kind of hoping that Fader
- 1:10:16Speaker 7: can get that once in a lifetime look that she's
- 1:10:18Speaker 7: been waiting for recently, help.
- 1:10:20Speaker 3: Her like winning a case.
- 1:10:23Speaker 7: Yes, broken clock twice, it's six fifteen twice a day.
- 1:10:26Speaker 7: And I'm hoping that if Fadri can you know, pull
- 1:10:29Speaker 7: a rabbit out the hat, that Kelly can go back
- 1:10:31Speaker 7: to being, you know, the lucid, fancy free girl. We
- 1:10:34Speaker 7: loving her T shirt and her panties, setting the standard
- 1:10:38Speaker 7: and hangs her way.
- 1:10:40Speaker 4: Didn't and I hate to say this, you know, I
- 1:10:45Speaker 4: hate compliment. I hate compliment and a fake ass dish.
- 1:10:49Speaker 3: But didn't she do actually some good?
- 1:10:51Speaker 4: Like didn't she get her like able to let the
- 1:10:53Speaker 4: kids film and all that like she made some she
- 1:10:56Speaker 4: you know what now this.
- 1:11:00Speaker 3: It's not like you did good good good?
- 1:11:06Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 1:11:06Speaker 1: And not only did that shout off to Parks Esquire,
- 1:11:09Speaker 1: she got the kids to film.
- 1:11:12Speaker 3: Are going too far?
- 1:11:13Speaker 7: Now?
- 1:11:13Speaker 2: Drug that's her name, shout out to Favor Squire.
- 1:11:20Speaker 3: Well, I'm a doctor too.
- 1:11:21Speaker 4: I got one of them honorary to give all the
- 1:11:22Speaker 4: Atlanta celebrities, mey tyres.
- 1:11:25Speaker 3: Everybody was taking. We all had that same black and
- 1:11:30Speaker 3: red gown on.
- 1:11:31Speaker 7: And had this.
- 1:11:34Speaker 3: That was all my show and we all okay.
- 1:11:37Speaker 2: Graduated, be graduated from law school?
- 1:11:42Speaker 7: Which which one?
- 1:11:43Speaker 3: Which one?
- 1:11:44Speaker 2: I believe? If it's okay, what are the bulldogs?
- 1:11:48Speaker 6: Is that the University of Georgia Georgia?
- 1:11:51Speaker 7: Right? Actually?
- 1:11:52Speaker 3: Blue, I heard you, Blue, I heard you say I
- 1:11:55Speaker 3: was looking to shut up mean shady.
- 1:12:00Speaker 7: It's my tism. I didn't medicate today.
- 1:12:02Speaker 12: Man, we are Anyways, not only did she get awarded
- 1:12:08Speaker 12: the kiss at film, she was also able to have
- 1:12:11Speaker 12: which is Look, it's unfortunate that from what Bravo said
- 1:12:17Speaker 12: at the end credits that unfortunately, or how do you
- 1:12:22Speaker 12: want to see it, the husband have to go to
- 1:12:24Speaker 12: jail until he was able to pay back thirty one
- 1:12:27Speaker 12: thousand dollars.
- 1:12:29Speaker 2: In back top support payments.
- 1:12:31Speaker 4: So you know what, we give her a hard time,
- 1:12:33Speaker 4: but when you're right, you're right, and we got to
- 1:12:34Speaker 4: get props. She did that on that and I and
- 1:12:36Speaker 4: I believe did she do it for free?
- 1:12:39Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 1:12:39Speaker 3: And that's and that's dope.
- 1:12:40Speaker 4: Listen, Pedra, your makeup may not match, but you did
- 1:12:45Speaker 4: it on this scene like you really did.
- 1:12:46Speaker 3: Like, oh, I wasn't suposed to say that ship you did?
- 1:12:50Speaker 7: Hold up for the shows?
- 1:12:54Speaker 3: Where's my degree from? I don't have to have an
- 1:12:56Speaker 3: agree to talk shit about people on reality TV.
- 1:12:59Speaker 4: If you think that, I'm sorry. I got a bridge
- 1:13:00Speaker 4: feed to buy, Like, get out of here with that. Anyways,
- 1:13:05Speaker 4: I'm giving the lady props.
- 1:13:06Speaker 3: Don't tell me off here. She did good that. I
- 1:13:09Speaker 3: think that's great.
- 1:13:09Speaker 4: It was nice that she offered to do it, whether
- 1:13:12Speaker 4: for the cameras or not, she's still put in the work.
- 1:13:14Speaker 4: She did it and having a successful result after all
- 1:13:17Speaker 4: the fat shade with losing case and all that kind
- 1:13:19Speaker 4: of stuff. Listen, when when she's doing right and doing good,
- 1:13:22Speaker 4: you gotta give it to her. And that's dope that
- 1:13:25Speaker 4: I'm not mad that I think this is actually super dope.
- 1:13:28Speaker 3: I really do. But we don't have we don't huh No.
- 1:13:31Speaker 7: The one thing I'll say that my mom's a scorpio.
- 1:13:33Speaker 7: Scorpios like Chris Jenner, they will do anything and involve
- 1:13:36Speaker 7: their kids. I think the mother and Pedra stood up
- 1:13:39Speaker 7: for the mother and Kelly, so I actually do believe
- 1:13:40Speaker 7: that's sincere. I always sincere. But I think mother to mother.
- 1:13:45Speaker 7: I think that's what was probably the emphasis for her
- 1:13:47Speaker 7: to show up Cala like that exactly, Nica, not doctor
- 1:13:51Speaker 7: Claudia girl.
- 1:13:53Speaker 2: So what are we all so saw? Was that a
- 1:14:01Speaker 2: therapist is so doctor.
- 1:14:04Speaker 7: Ken because the way he was ribbing on her stuff. Okay,
- 1:14:10Speaker 7: this is some.
- 1:14:10Speaker 1: Real shit and and listen, I don't know doctor can
- 1:14:13Speaker 1: and it is what it is, and we listened. I'll
- 1:14:17Speaker 1: speak for myself because like Blue said, this ain't French.
- 1:14:20Speaker 1: I wasn't say, well, who told my girl? Should mea
- 1:14:23Speaker 1: don't you ever once again in your life to work
- 1:14:25Speaker 1: at a conference.
- 1:14:26Speaker 2: Room in a business meeting.
- 1:14:28Speaker 1: Yes, enough, doctor Ken, I don't know you my brother,
- 1:14:32Speaker 1: to be on camera as a doctor while you're there
- 1:14:37Speaker 1: to celebrate Drew's mother. And the way you sort of
- 1:14:43Speaker 1: hugged Phaedra for the extended period.
- 1:14:47Speaker 2: Of time that you did.
- 1:14:49Speaker 1: I I thought that was just beyond inappropriate. I thought
- 1:14:55Speaker 1: about the wrong place. I thought it was the wrong time.
- 1:14:59Speaker 2: I thought it was the.
- 1:15:00Speaker 1: Wrong sort of situation to put Phaedra in. I honestly
- 1:15:04Speaker 1: felt bad for as a woman having to.
- 1:15:10Speaker 6: Oh well on the dead homies. That's a fact. That's
- 1:15:17Speaker 6: a Fendi fact.
- 1:15:18Speaker 5: He definitely made us think about Syne Bryant's foolishness. Don't
- 1:15:23Speaker 5: say well, I will, I will. He made us all
- 1:15:31Speaker 5: think about fake doctors, doctor Taye, the nigga from season four,
- 1:15:35Speaker 5: and Rai's car party. Yeah, Doctor Francis would never ever,
- 1:15:42Speaker 5: and neither would doctor Sherry.
- 1:15:44Speaker 7: You that song is in my head, that woman brace
- 1:15:48Speaker 7: claud You know that song? I want to grab you
- 1:15:50Speaker 7: in Chris brother, it felt very sexual. I feel like
- 1:15:55Speaker 7: his little peep slid up a little bit. And here's
- 1:15:57Speaker 7: the thing. To think it was fat is something that
- 1:16:01Speaker 7: I do. There's a thing called fight or flight, but
- 1:16:03Speaker 7: people don't talk about freezer Fawn where you say something
- 1:16:07Speaker 7: like fawnish and cute and then slither away so that
- 1:16:10Speaker 7: the man doesn't have a violent reaction. Favor fawns when
- 1:16:13Speaker 7: she's nervous. Sometimes I do it too, sometimes right like, well,
- 1:16:15Speaker 7: I see you, Fred, get him off of me. She
- 1:16:17Speaker 7: was trying to keep it cute because she didn't want
- 1:16:19Speaker 7: to embarrass him, but I could tell she was uncomfortable.
- 1:16:22Speaker 2: She was uncomfortable and listening about faiths a scorpion.
- 1:16:27Speaker 1: If you watch the show Old Faedra definitely lean into
- 1:16:31Speaker 1: like the flirty stuff.
- 1:16:33Speaker 2: But it was just it was something in that moment
- 1:16:35Speaker 2: that I and and again maybe it was just me.
- 1:16:38Speaker 1: I felt uncomfortable for her, like she did not look comfortable. Now, look,
- 1:16:45Speaker 1: it's maybe they know each other, and that's how I.
- 1:16:49Speaker 2: She She didn't look comfortable to me.
- 1:16:51Speaker 3: Watching the same show that she was.
- 1:16:56Speaker 7: No.
- 1:17:00Speaker 3: Beyonce exactly is lie and act like I was moaning.
- 1:17:12Speaker 4: I don't moan when I'm gonna come when Steven Seagal
- 1:17:15Speaker 4: tried to sexually harass me in his house with his hair. Plus,
- 1:17:18Speaker 4: I didn't moan. I certainly did not moan. And yes,
- 1:17:21Speaker 4: we all react differently.
- 1:17:22Speaker 3: But.
- 1:17:25Speaker 4: Okay, I may freeze you're right A freeze one thousand said,
- 1:17:30Speaker 4: but not a shimmy and a a shimmy and a
- 1:17:33Speaker 4: titty bump.
- 1:17:34Speaker 7: No fee. I'm a fonner, though I'll crack a joke
- 1:17:37Speaker 7: to like, man, I'm not about to do with y'all.
- 1:17:40Speaker 7: I'm not.
- 1:17:41Speaker 1: I'm not listen.
- 1:17:44Speaker 3: Let's stop at giving her props for helping Kelly.
- 1:17:46Speaker 6: That was dope.
- 1:17:47Speaker 4: She had some great confessional looks this season. She finally
- 1:17:49Speaker 4: woke up at second last episode. She did great in Scotland.
- 1:17:52Speaker 4: I'm giving her props, but what I'm not gonna do
- 1:17:55Speaker 4: is act like she was this victim in that moment.
- 1:17:57Speaker 4: He was a creep, yes, and she lean into it
- 1:18:00Speaker 4: because loves you to think she's so sexual. And that's
- 1:18:07Speaker 4: my I'm sticking to what I said. I don't give
- 1:18:10Speaker 4: the damn who agrees with me.
- 1:18:11Speaker 3: I don't.
- 1:18:13Speaker 7: Don't.
- 1:18:14Speaker 5: Yeah, And to be fair, we haven't heard her say
- 1:18:16Speaker 5: that the man made her feel uncomfortable.
- 1:18:19Speaker 6: Carlos was just saying that's.
- 1:18:21Speaker 7: True to him, she was uncomfortable. They think she she
- 1:18:28Speaker 7: know I would.
- 1:18:29Speaker 1: Say she looked uncomfortable uncomfortable to me, but like doesn't
- 1:18:32Speaker 1: said And Doctor King's defense and his defense he was
- 1:18:36Speaker 1: a per he was, and and that's why I said,
- 1:18:43Speaker 1: I don't know their relationship, you know, like like like
- 1:18:47Speaker 1: me and Dustin, we have a little thing and it's
- 1:18:49Speaker 1: innocent and it's fun naked eye to look whatever. So
- 1:18:54Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. Perhaps that's that's their thing. I
- 1:18:58Speaker 1: just felt that I thought of and listed. Maybe it
- 1:19:02Speaker 1: made me uncomfortable.
- 1:19:03Speaker 6: I don't know, but and that's fine for you to
- 1:19:05Speaker 6: say that too.
- 1:19:07Speaker 1: Si Vader did not say anything about this scene raindrops
- 1:19:12Speaker 1: laying on the comments. But I don't think Padre has
- 1:19:14Speaker 1: me in a comment about that particular moment he was.
- 1:19:18Speaker 4: He was get asked wrong, no matter what her reaction
- 1:19:20Speaker 4: was though her neck, he was And then he went
- 1:19:23Speaker 4: and did it with someone else.
- 1:19:24Speaker 3: It was like her and someone uh.
- 1:19:27Speaker 7: Was like, yeah, you're my therapist.
- 1:19:31Speaker 3: It was two women that he rolled up on and
- 1:19:34Speaker 3: that really with her and someone else, who's the other one?
- 1:19:37Speaker 3: He was like in their air, he was gross.
- 1:19:40Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't think he if he's a therapist, I don't.
- 1:19:44Speaker 7: Here's the thing, discernment, right, The thing about being a
- 1:19:47Speaker 7: therapist is it's one of the few jobs no matter
- 1:19:49Speaker 7: how good you are, how you are socially is a
- 1:19:52Speaker 7: direct correlation time, but you can be trusted professionally. One
- 1:19:55Speaker 7: of those jobs where you actually cannot separate them. So
- 1:19:57Speaker 7: I feel the itck deeply doing that. I would fight
- 1:20:01Speaker 7: his nigga.
- 1:20:02Speaker 3: That's right, Porscha.
- 1:20:03Speaker 4: He was with her and porstch of shout out to
- 1:20:05Speaker 4: you because you did check him a little bit like
- 1:20:07Speaker 4: you was like and I like.
- 1:20:09Speaker 7: Fight and Fadris Faun. They've always been fight versus fun
- 1:20:12Speaker 7: those two.
- 1:20:13Speaker 2: Yeah, that was just a little weird moment.
- 1:20:16Speaker 1: Speaking of Porscha, though, Porsche and Sway had a conversation
- 1:20:21Speaker 1: about the state of the relationship. What we saw last
- 1:20:24Speaker 1: week Dustin but the Blast told Porscha that he's in
- 1:20:28Speaker 1: love with her in this episode.
- 1:20:32Speaker 7: How do you keep saying that? Carlos, he.
- 1:20:36Speaker 5: Said, sitting up there looking at them Lego people with
- 1:20:38Speaker 5: that drawing in Beard talking about talking about so I
- 1:20:43Speaker 5: think I'm out with that sponsored by Please.
- 1:20:48Speaker 6: He's probably a great person.
- 1:20:49Speaker 1: But as a former client of Beijing Products, I will
- 1:20:54Speaker 1: say that myself, Sway and Porsche a ive seen to
- 1:21:03Speaker 1: update each other on the state of the relationship. I
- 1:21:08Speaker 1: will say this, Ty Young is number one. Sway is
- 1:21:12Speaker 1: a close number two. Sway to me, it's a fine, fine,
- 1:21:17Speaker 1: fine woman. Before I move on as the only pant
- 1:21:23Speaker 1: sexual on the panel, Blue, what did you think of
- 1:21:28Speaker 1: Porsche and Sways dynamic?
- 1:21:31Speaker 2: Because I know my girl, I don't.
- 1:21:34Speaker 1: Care what anyone says, and we can disagree on this one,
- 1:21:36Speaker 1: and we could. I will fight y'all on this.
- 1:21:39Speaker 2: I know Porsche. Porsche is in love and in lust
- 1:21:42Speaker 2: with Sway. And now this Way took off the glasses.
- 1:21:45Speaker 2: I said, Oh Porsche, I get it.
- 1:21:49Speaker 7: I mean it. I've been got it. Oh yeah, Look man,
- 1:21:54Speaker 7: I've said this before. The right stud can digmatize you, right,
- 1:21:58Speaker 7: So I just I have said it before. I know
- 1:22:02Speaker 7: the markers of someone who knows what they're doing. Sway, No,
- 1:22:07Speaker 7: she right, she pronounces just want to be respectful? Is
- 1:22:09Speaker 7: that she pronounced? Y?
- 1:22:13Speaker 6: Always says she when she no.
- 1:22:16Speaker 7: Sway has that thing that would make you yeah, Sway
- 1:22:19Speaker 7: has that thing that have you howling at the moon.
- 1:22:21Speaker 7: And here's the thing someone who is swaggy in that way,
- 1:22:25Speaker 7: who is secure, And it's called masculine center. Right, So
- 1:22:28Speaker 7: you can be a woman and still be a queer
- 1:22:30Speaker 7: woman and be centered in your masculinity. That happens all
- 1:22:32Speaker 7: the time because they don't subscribe to the gender binary
- 1:22:34Speaker 7: the same way. Sometimes, ironically, queer people are more secure
- 1:22:39Speaker 7: in their masculinity than straight man and I hate it here,
- 1:22:41Speaker 7: right and so I think Sway might be the man
- 1:22:45Speaker 7: of her dreams, but is a woman. And I think
- 1:22:47Speaker 7: there's something around being someone who is secure a masculinity
- 1:22:51Speaker 7: and also secure with their queerness and not in the closet.
- 1:22:54Speaker 7: And I saw Sway on my YouTube Sway got money.
- 1:22:58Speaker 3: M h.
- 1:23:00Speaker 6: I didn't realize swear was that rich money money.
- 1:23:02Speaker 7: Hey in her mansion developing other wings. I said, oh,
- 1:23:05Speaker 7: you got money money, And I've been informed by a
- 1:23:08Speaker 7: little bird that you know porsia life people who are
- 1:23:11Speaker 7: financially and fiscally responsible.
- 1:23:13Speaker 3: Where would you get that from?
- 1:23:15Speaker 2: Just birds?
- 1:23:17Speaker 7: So and so Stray is fine, got money, secured the masculinity.
- 1:23:26Speaker 7: I know she good with the sex. You see how
- 1:23:28Speaker 7: she hold her hands. The hands are imported with the lesbians.
- 1:23:31Speaker 7: So yeah, I porscha. I love this for you, child,
- 1:23:34Speaker 7: And Sway got a cousin.
- 1:23:35Speaker 1: I might tap back in, Oh okay, so Sway, if
- 1:23:38Speaker 1: you're listening, if you have a gay cousin, oh my bad.
- 1:23:46Speaker 1: At Blue Centric, Claudia Jordan did did Porsche finally find
- 1:23:52Speaker 1: the one?
- 1:23:52Speaker 4: When it comes to Sway, I'm sorry, I'm so distracted
- 1:23:55Speaker 4: by your titties this whole show, Like every time you
- 1:23:57Speaker 4: put your hands up.
- 1:23:58Speaker 3: I see both aeros and it's like, yeah it did.
- 1:24:04Speaker 7: Yes, our Carlos around they're red.
- 1:24:09Speaker 3: Because it's local eggs and local eggs are brown.
- 1:24:24Speaker 6: Is a motherfucking fool?
- 1:24:28Speaker 7: Love me? What isn't the air tonight?
- 1:24:32Speaker 2: I love it?
- 1:24:33Speaker 3: Oh?
- 1:24:33Speaker 2: Ship swearing here Tuesday?
- 1:24:40Speaker 4: Well, don't ask me about saying because that it was
- 1:24:43Speaker 4: in my tagline and it didn't work out.
- 1:24:46Speaker 7: It was it wasn't my choice.
- 1:24:48Speaker 3: They made me say that ship. I didn't say that.
- 1:24:51Speaker 3: I knew it was a set up.
- 1:24:52Speaker 4: Anyways, Enough about that. So I think Sway wants to
- 1:24:57Speaker 4: be there to stay. I think Sway is very much.
- 1:25:00Speaker 4: I feel like Sway is when thousand.
- 1:25:01Speaker 3: Percent in love. And I don't know. I'm not Porscha's friends,
- 1:25:05Speaker 3: so I don't know how she talking. Man.
- 1:25:06Speaker 4: You know, Carlos is convinced, but it could be lest
- 1:25:10Speaker 4: In the beginning, lust feels just like love, or it
- 1:25:12Speaker 4: could be love.
- 1:25:12Speaker 7: We don't know.
- 1:25:13Speaker 3: Time will tell on that. I hope it is love.
- 1:25:15Speaker 4: They do seem the light up around each other. But
- 1:25:16Speaker 4: I also feel like Porsche loves love. We've also felt
- 1:25:20Speaker 4: that about I mean about Simon, you know what I
- 1:25:23Speaker 4: mean Like, I also felt with him like they seem
- 1:25:25Speaker 4: to have some chemistry when they were out, when she
- 1:25:27Speaker 4: was had that man in them club at three o'clock
- 1:25:29Speaker 4: in the morning.
- 1:25:30Speaker 3: He was tired, he was past his bedtime. He's exhausted.
- 1:25:33Speaker 7: Nah, what.
- 1:25:36Speaker 6: What was you gonna call him?
- 1:25:38Speaker 1: Yeah, we all heard it, Claudia, you know what the
- 1:25:44Speaker 1: gaslight me on a live television.
- 1:25:51Speaker 3: A celebrity lookalike?
- 1:25:52Speaker 2: Though?
- 1:25:52Speaker 3: Who's his celebrity lookalike?
- 1:25:54Speaker 7: Oh?
- 1:25:54Speaker 6: They had said, yeah, oh wow, oh that's what they say.
- 1:26:05Speaker 3: Why why why, that's how he was. We got the
- 1:26:10Speaker 3: bad I fucked up the joke. Damn, damn, damn. Now
- 1:26:17Speaker 3: there was a time that I remember seeing the you know,
- 1:26:19Speaker 3: the clips. It was all over the internet. There was
- 1:26:20Speaker 3: the clubs and they was beaming, smiling. The wedding, they
- 1:26:24Speaker 3: both they it wasn't just him looking happy. They're both
- 1:26:26Speaker 3: really happy. But I do think that there is something
- 1:26:29Speaker 3: that seems.
- 1:26:29Speaker 4: Very real about her and sway they do seem like
- 1:26:34Speaker 4: they there is They're very very into each other. I
- 1:26:37Speaker 4: I really do think that, and I hope for Sway's
- 1:26:41Speaker 4: sake that Porch's series and it's not just lust and
- 1:26:44Speaker 4: something different. But I think Porsche has been leaning towards
- 1:26:47Speaker 4: us for a while, you know what I mean. So
- 1:26:48Speaker 4: I hope it's real because I think they're adorable together.
- 1:26:51Speaker 4: I think Sway comes off like the right amount of
- 1:26:55Speaker 4: like confidence and cool and not like thirsty for a
- 1:26:59Speaker 4: ten doesn't seem it does. I detect zero traces of
- 1:27:04Speaker 4: using Porsche to get on. It does seem like very authentic,
- 1:27:08Speaker 4: and for that, I hope it is for real, for real.
- 1:27:11Speaker 4: It would be nice to see any of these relationships
- 1:27:13Speaker 4: kind of like ride off into the sunset and be
- 1:27:15Speaker 4: like they're forever, you know what I mean. Like I
- 1:27:18Speaker 4: I love to see people that are happy, whether I
- 1:27:20Speaker 4: friends or not. But I just love seeing black love
- 1:27:23Speaker 4: and I think it'll be dope. And it also kind
- 1:27:25Speaker 4: of takes a stigma off of the l in the
- 1:27:29Speaker 4: in the community. You don't really see many representations of
- 1:27:32Speaker 4: that on television. You really don't, you know, you really
- 1:27:35Speaker 4: hardly ever see it. You see bisexual, but you made
- 1:27:38Speaker 4: people on lesbian relationships and and in a place where
- 1:27:41Speaker 4: it's not used for fodder for jokes, you know what
- 1:27:44Speaker 4: I mean, Like you don't.
- 1:27:45Speaker 7: The boys so especially yeah, the.
- 1:27:48Speaker 3: Boys the front and center of the girl. You never
- 1:27:49Speaker 3: see lesbian relationships kind of being featured on any real show.
- 1:27:52Speaker 2: And and Judy that's like the only one.
- 1:27:55Speaker 3: Yeah, and if people still make fun of it and
- 1:27:57Speaker 3: talk shit.
- 1:27:58Speaker 4: But I think this could be one of the ones
- 1:28:00Speaker 4: that kind of like kind of blaze kind of blaze
- 1:28:02Speaker 4: the trail.
- 1:28:03Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm happy for Porsche.
- 1:28:06Speaker 5: She seems genuinely happy her and so like doing a
- 1:28:08Speaker 5: thing they live in life and then making memories and
- 1:28:11Speaker 5: Porscha's daughter look happy.
- 1:28:13Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying.
- 1:28:14Speaker 5: Dennis is a nice person, you know what I'm saying.
- 1:28:18Speaker 5: I feel like they figured it out, and they're figuring
- 1:28:21Speaker 5: it out, and I'm happy for Porsche. And I actually
- 1:28:24Speaker 5: admired that in fact, that Porscha don't give a fuck.
- 1:28:26Speaker 5: Porscha is going to chase her happiness until she secures it.
- 1:28:30Speaker 5: And I actually think that's something that, in a healthy way,
- 1:28:33Speaker 5: we could all do well to mimic. You know what
- 1:28:36Speaker 5: I'm saying, Like, focus on your happiness and chase that
- 1:28:39Speaker 5: ship and don't give a fuck. With nobody say, I like,
- 1:28:42Speaker 5: I'm happy about Porsche.
- 1:28:46Speaker 2: Would you ever entertained?
- 1:28:49Speaker 3: I like Dick too much? And I like a nice
- 1:28:52Speaker 3: arm and a strong back, and I like I like
- 1:28:57Speaker 3: I like Peenie.
- 1:28:58Speaker 7: I like how ploral penises what penis is two or more?
- 1:29:03Speaker 3: Well, I'm just not thinking of one particular one.
- 1:29:06Speaker 7: So okay, I said that, friend.
- 1:29:08Speaker 3: And then I like how it feels when it first
- 1:29:10Speaker 3: goes inside you and it's new.
- 1:29:16Speaker 2: At the beginning.
- 1:29:19Speaker 1: You know what kind of.
- 1:29:21Speaker 3: Any quiet for a second. I love where you go.
- 1:29:26Speaker 3: I like that hold your sister right and you're like
- 1:29:28Speaker 3: you're bracing for Oh, I love it.
- 1:29:34Speaker 2: Not the model kicked one.
- 1:29:38Speaker 7: I know this.
- 1:29:39Speaker 3: I know this new bitch ain't trying me already, Jamie,
- 1:29:42Speaker 3: you knew here. I know you ain't doing like that.
- 1:29:45Speaker 4: We just didn't know each other. I know a new
- 1:29:50Speaker 4: bitches not just take me off the screen. I'm gonna
- 1:29:56Speaker 4: do to get you. You can have yours out and
- 1:30:02Speaker 4: I can't go.
- 1:30:03Speaker 2: Claudia, this is like fine, okay, Carlos.
- 1:30:09Speaker 7: He said, first of all, this.
- 1:30:13Speaker 3: You have, Jamie, I don't called you out your name
- 1:30:15Speaker 3: and it wasn't even you.
- 1:30:17Speaker 2: I agree with your Claudia me and Dustin Jamie, I
- 1:30:20Speaker 2: love you.
- 1:30:23Speaker 7: What do you think.
- 1:30:25Speaker 2: I said? We agree with you. Me and Dustin like
- 1:30:28Speaker 2: hearing that, so so.
- 1:30:31Speaker 3: I'm I'm giving it. Shout up from the other side.
- 1:30:34Speaker 6: That's me. I'm telling you like.
- 1:30:37Speaker 7: I'm somewhere in the middle of l.
- 1:30:41Speaker 2: Although this is not about black love the way Sway
- 1:30:44Speaker 2: and Portia is, there's another lesson relationship that we got
- 1:30:47Speaker 2: to get into, and that is Angela's daughter, Amari.
- 1:30:53Speaker 1: What we all know is Angela Oakley and her daughter
- 1:30:57Speaker 1: Mari am A so beautiful and so sweet. You can
- 1:30:59Speaker 1: tell she's like a really good good girl. So sean
- 1:31:03Speaker 1: love for raising such a smart, brilliant girl. They are
- 1:31:08Speaker 1: having a family meeting. Charles Oakley is there, and what
- 1:31:12Speaker 1: we learned is Angela said that when they eloped her
- 1:31:16Speaker 1: daughter and the wife, that she never spoke to her
- 1:31:21Speaker 1: daughter's wife about this. Then we learned from Charles that
- 1:31:27Speaker 1: Angela feels left out because she is close to MARII
- 1:31:31Speaker 1: and feels like she kept a secret for so long.
- 1:31:34Speaker 1: Amari then facetimes her wife and.
- 1:31:40Speaker 2: A lot of people on.
- 1:31:41Speaker 1: Social media reacted because they did not expect a wife
- 1:31:44Speaker 1: to not be black and were wondering if that had
- 1:31:48Speaker 1: anything to do with the hurt that you see in
- 1:31:52Speaker 1: Angela's eyes, which I don't think that. I think is
- 1:31:55Speaker 1: what Charles said. I think that Angela is close to
- 1:31:59Speaker 1: her daughter, and no mother wants to know that. I
- 1:32:06Speaker 1: thought we were close, but we weren't close enough to
- 1:32:09Speaker 1: where you did not inform me that this girl who
- 1:32:12Speaker 1: you said was your friend and was cool with the
- 1:32:14Speaker 1: family or siblings, is somebody that you ended up marrying.
- 1:32:17Speaker 1: That's what I think of it. But Blue, were you
- 1:32:20Speaker 1: surprised when you saw the revelation of who the wife was?
- 1:32:24Speaker 2: And what do you think the real deal is?
- 1:32:27Speaker 7: I was surprised, not in a neutral way. I just
- 1:32:30Speaker 7: wasn't what I expected. I actually did expect more of
- 1:32:33Speaker 7: like a Sway or someone black. I will say this,
- 1:32:37Speaker 7: and I will shoot some belts of parents, even the
- 1:32:39Speaker 7: most loving parent, when their child comes out, finds themselves
- 1:32:45Speaker 7: having to mourn what they assumed their child's life would
- 1:32:48Speaker 7: look like to make room for something else. I have
- 1:32:50Speaker 7: a lot of clients with queer children who come to
- 1:32:53Speaker 7: me who are very supportive but still have to mourn.
- 1:32:57Speaker 7: So I think show aside. Can we just be for
- 1:33:00Speaker 7: a second and say, any parent has to be like,
- 1:33:03Speaker 7: this is not what I envisioned, and I have to
- 1:33:05Speaker 7: warn all of that before I make space for what
- 1:33:06Speaker 7: you're about to tell me next.
- 1:33:08Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 1:33:08Speaker 7: Also, in any relationship where you care about somebody finding
- 1:33:12Speaker 7: out the entire time that you were not in on
- 1:33:14Speaker 7: the joke and there was a premise that you didn't understand,
- 1:33:16Speaker 7: it's still also jarring. Right, there's the morning the fact
- 1:33:19Speaker 7: that what I thought for you is not going to happen.
- 1:33:21Speaker 7: And also this entire time I was the only one
- 1:33:24Speaker 7: who wasn't in on this. It is isolating, it is hurtful,
- 1:33:27Speaker 7: and it's not homophobic to feel those feelings. And I
- 1:33:30Speaker 7: think we sometimes act as if you're not doing cartwheels
- 1:33:33Speaker 7: with a rainbow sticker on your ass, then you must
- 1:33:35Speaker 7: be a homephed person. There are gay people who still
- 1:33:37Speaker 7: have to figure out how to fight the internalized feelings
- 1:33:40Speaker 7: around themselves about mourning. When I fell in love with
- 1:33:42Speaker 7: a woman and thought I might end up with a
- 1:33:44Speaker 7: woman I'm mourned having a traditional wedding, I was like,
- 1:33:47Speaker 7: oh my god, if we do this, there are things
- 1:33:50Speaker 7: that I am visioned for myself that I'm gonna have
- 1:33:52Speaker 7: to revisit.
- 1:33:53Speaker 2: So I was your mom cool when you came out, Like,
- 1:33:57Speaker 2: did your mom have that same feeling? Like she still
- 1:34:00Speaker 2: don't know. I just assume because your public figure.
- 1:34:12Speaker 7: Okay, she don't they tell her that I'm funny. She don't.
- 1:34:18Speaker 7: Oh my dad, look mother, My mother's only met I
- 1:34:23Speaker 7: was in a serious relationship.
- 1:34:25Speaker 2: I didn't mean an ore blude, Oh dare you.
- 1:34:33Speaker 7: Well since we're here?
- 1:34:34Speaker 2: Fuck it.
- 1:34:35Speaker 7: No, she she met one girl who she thought was
- 1:34:38Speaker 7: my friend. I was the daughter. She loved her, invited
- 1:34:40Speaker 7: her on family vacations. When we broke up, she was like,
- 1:34:43Speaker 7: why can't you keep any friends? She didn't know. She
- 1:34:45Speaker 7: was just mean, wait, wait, no, no.
- 1:34:48Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not being funny.
- 1:34:50Speaker 1: I now understand what Angela's going through because I think,
- 1:34:53Speaker 1: so you get it, that's that's exactly.
- 1:34:56Speaker 7: I was the daughter, So I get it. She loved
- 1:35:00Speaker 7: my ex and treating her like a daughter and didn't
- 1:35:03Speaker 7: know what we were hunching. And so what happened, I mean,
- 1:35:06Speaker 7: it happens, right, I'm paying sexual for real. But what
- 1:35:10Speaker 7: happens is though there is a grief that happens on
- 1:35:13Speaker 7: both sides. And I have friends who have come out
- 1:35:15Speaker 7: the reason why I hadn't come out though, is because
- 1:35:17Speaker 7: right after that relationship, I ended the following with a
- 1:35:19Speaker 7: guy who waste a lot of years of my life.
- 1:35:20Speaker 7: And so that was I'm gonna say at that point
- 1:35:22Speaker 7: because it was a nigga showing up, right. But I
- 1:35:24Speaker 7: will say this. I love the fact that focused Carlos.
- 1:35:28Speaker 2: I love the.
- 1:35:29Speaker 7: Fact not you out of cat members we're speaking of
- 1:35:32Speaker 7: hr that this. I look, Claudia is the journalist. You's
- 1:35:42Speaker 7: second notes. Thank you, Claudi, Yeah, I got notes. I
- 1:35:47Speaker 7: love the fact that Angela is like, look, I don't
- 1:35:49Speaker 7: care how you get here, get here if you can.
- 1:35:51Speaker 7: She's like, at this point, I just want my daughter back.
- 1:35:54Speaker 7: I just want to feel close with you. Fuck what
- 1:35:56Speaker 7: I thought? What I hope fun? How we messed up?
- 1:35:58Speaker 7: How do we fixed this? To me, that's the best
- 1:36:00Speaker 7: case scenario for this. So one thing I will say,
- 1:36:03Speaker 7: I have not seen a single bad mother on the show.
- 1:36:06Speaker 7: That's one thing. Can we all put that off limits?
- 1:36:08Speaker 7: I know Mama's was a topic. Can we all admit
- 1:36:11Speaker 7: that they're good mothers. I think they're all good guys.
- 1:36:13Speaker 7: Me's daughter, I don't. I think they all are great matriarchs.
- 1:36:17Speaker 7: And I think sometimes we have so much fun making
- 1:36:20Speaker 7: them argue like little Barbie dolls, we forget that they're
- 1:36:22Speaker 7: real people. So yes, Daughter, Yeah you too, Kelly. Okay,
- 1:36:28Speaker 7: you two girls.
- 1:36:32Speaker 2: On the A.
- 1:36:34Speaker 4: I don't even know if it has anything as much
- 1:36:36Speaker 4: to do with the sexuality, you know, her being lesbian
- 1:36:39Speaker 4: or not. Have you ever had a friend right that
- 1:36:43Speaker 4: you think is your best friend or a really close
- 1:36:45Speaker 4: friend and they get married or they get into a
- 1:36:49Speaker 4: relationship but they stop sharing stuff with you. It hurts
- 1:36:51Speaker 4: like not being left out of something that's so important
- 1:36:54Speaker 4: to someone that you love. So imagine being a mother
- 1:36:56Speaker 4: on top of that. And yeah, also throwing the fact
- 1:36:59Speaker 4: that you thought that she'd have a traditional marriage with
- 1:37:02Speaker 4: a man and maybe he'd be grandkids and all that. Yeah,
- 1:37:04Speaker 4: I could see why she would be hurt. I could
- 1:37:06Speaker 4: see both sides. And I also see why Daughter would
- 1:37:08Speaker 4: feel like how bluefelt. Didn't want to disappoint the mom,
- 1:37:10Speaker 4: and you know you don't want to you want to
- 1:37:12Speaker 4: kind of keep it to yourself.
- 1:37:13Speaker 3: I get it. So I like that we can see
- 1:37:16Speaker 3: different family dynamics and different situations on these shows this season.
- 1:37:19Speaker 4: I think that's what's up. I think it does a
- 1:37:20Speaker 4: great service to a community. Once again, the lesbian community.
- 1:37:24Speaker 4: You don't really get to see the ins and outs
- 1:37:27Speaker 4: of that. We just really scratch the surface of gay
- 1:37:30Speaker 4: men and how they are with their families.
- 1:37:32Speaker 3: We're not even all.
- 1:37:33Speaker 13: Over there yet, but we really never really hear anything
- 1:37:37Speaker 13: about lesbians and like how they you know, that whole
- 1:37:40Speaker 13: dynamic of disappointing in families mourning that their daughters will
- 1:37:43Speaker 13: not give them most likely won't give them grandkids.
- 1:37:47Speaker 3: So I thought it was a great I thought it
- 1:37:48Speaker 3: was great that we saw that.
- 1:37:52Speaker 5: Okay, so so yes, I think Angela Oakley is a
- 1:37:55Speaker 5: great mom to her daughter, Amari.
- 1:37:57Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. And I didn't get have
- 1:38:00Speaker 6: a very very keen I got a hound dog nose
- 1:38:03Speaker 6: when it comes to homophobia, you actually do you know
- 1:38:06Speaker 6: what I'm saying.
- 1:38:07Speaker 5: I could sniff it out. So but I haven't had
- 1:38:10Speaker 5: that feeling about Angela. In fact, it's been the opposite.
- 1:38:13Speaker 5: And I now we're not gonna pretend like her daughter
- 1:38:18Speaker 5: and her wife didn't look like them. We TV as
- 1:38:21Speaker 5: love after lock up as couples.
- 1:38:23Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying.
- 1:38:24Speaker 5: That that is you know, it did look like a
- 1:38:28Speaker 5: life after lock up dass relationship. You know what I'm saying.
- 1:38:32Speaker 5: I think that that may have getting Angela some of
- 1:38:36Speaker 5: her pause. You know what I'm saying, Like her wife
- 1:38:39Speaker 5: did look like we TV.
- 1:38:41Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like it was very juvy energy.
- 1:38:45Speaker 6: Yeah, very much.
- 1:38:46Speaker 5: I could just see the two faces and that that
- 1:38:48Speaker 5: fence from love after lock up.
- 1:38:49Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. I'm married, Hawaii. I could
- 1:38:54Speaker 6: just see it, you know.
- 1:38:55Speaker 5: But then you know, a car scene, she was all
- 1:38:58Speaker 5: in the phone and ship like you know what I'm saying,
- 1:39:00Speaker 5: just very love after lock up. But I did not
- 1:39:03Speaker 5: get homophobic from Angela, and thank God for that. If anything,
- 1:39:07Speaker 5: she's putting this shit, I think that is It's a
- 1:39:09Speaker 5: very important.
- 1:39:12Speaker 6: Journey.
- 1:39:13Speaker 5: I hate using such a cliche term, but to share right,
- 1:39:16Speaker 5: figuring out understanding and figuring out peace amongst a mother
- 1:39:21Speaker 5: and daughter and queer daughter, and I think that that
- 1:39:24Speaker 5: is something that's really brave for the show, both of
- 1:39:26Speaker 5: them being here being from Chicago, and shit, y'all know
- 1:39:29Speaker 5: how niggas from the Midwest are. I am niggas from
- 1:39:33Speaker 5: the Midwest, you know what I'm saying, So y'all know
- 1:39:35Speaker 5: how we are, and it's very hard. They are very
- 1:39:38Speaker 5: they hold fast traditional gender roles and and and what
- 1:39:41Speaker 5: you wanted for your kid whole time, your daughter's eating pussy.
- 1:39:45Speaker 5: So you know what I'm saying. So you have to like,
- 1:39:48Speaker 5: we have to wake up a little bit. And I'm
- 1:39:50Speaker 5: glad that they are moving forward. It's good to see
- 1:39:53Speaker 5: them finding that journey to peace. But that d wife
- 1:39:56Speaker 5: and Amari, y'all know, damn well, it ain't even Amory.
- 1:40:03Speaker 5: Because Amri is a beautiful girl. She looked just like her,
- 1:40:05Speaker 5: Damn her pretty ass mama. She looked just like Angela.
- 1:40:08Speaker 5: And I loved them also. I loved them doing that
- 1:40:11Speaker 5: confessional together.
- 1:40:12Speaker 6: I thought that was so dope.
- 1:40:13Speaker 5: It made me I don't just felt like throwback Real
- 1:40:16Speaker 5: House Whiles of Atlanta. But when they did her, when Amari.
- 1:40:19Speaker 6: Held their phone, what she said, She's like, somebody wants
- 1:40:21Speaker 6: to say hi to you. Some people want to say
- 1:40:23Speaker 6: they miss you.
- 1:40:24Speaker 5: She turned that phone around and all he's seen was
- 1:40:26Speaker 5: that girl wife, her wife looking like we TV.
- 1:40:31Speaker 6: That's what it looked like. You know what I'm saying.
- 1:40:33Speaker 3: It wasn't extreme close up. It wasn't extreme close up.
- 1:40:37Speaker 4: It was so you're saying that if the wife trying
- 1:40:41Speaker 4: to like more swaggy, like a sway.
- 1:40:43Speaker 5: No, no, no, I don't even think because Angela, she
- 1:40:46Speaker 5: wasn't mistreating them. I just upon first glance, I.
- 1:40:49Speaker 3: Know, I was a little like, do you think it
- 1:40:51Speaker 3: looks like how someone looks has a little bit?
- 1:41:00Speaker 6: I think what.
- 1:41:02Speaker 3: If the wife like had a different look.
- 1:41:06Speaker 4: That wasn't so we TV? Do you think it'd be
- 1:41:09Speaker 4: will easily digested?
- 1:41:11Speaker 5: No, because I'm just talking about me, really, my lands,
- 1:41:17Speaker 5: are you talking about Angela?
- 1:41:19Speaker 3: I know I'm trying to Hey, I'm just doing my job,
- 1:41:21Speaker 3: trying to keep the show shady. It's been very shady tonight, Like.
- 1:41:27Speaker 6: I need to move on.
- 1:41:29Speaker 3: Okay, Carlos as nipples. We are in for a show.
- 1:41:32Speaker 3: It's really Carls his fault, you.
- 1:41:34Speaker 2: Know, really really really okay, che Michelle.
- 1:41:44Speaker 7: Jesus and Whiskey, Carlos, Jesus and Whiskey.
- 1:41:46Speaker 2: Ca Michelle Jesus and Whiskey and uh Kee.
- 1:41:50Speaker 1: Michelle album is out I think in October, if I'm
- 1:41:55Speaker 1: not mistaken.
- 1:41:57Speaker 2: So look, they're at a party.
- 1:41:59Speaker 1: The girls show up, Shamia brings receipts, and the receipts
- 1:42:04Speaker 1: dustin our hoa finds for juice, Adurra bringing a horse
- 1:42:12Speaker 1: with her rented friend that dressed up like jay Z
- 1:42:18Speaker 1: from the Reasonable Doubt.
- 1:42:20Speaker 2: Album cover, and the horse shited on the ground. The
- 1:42:25Speaker 2: feet was over two thousand dollars.
- 1:42:28Speaker 1: Drew said, if you needed help PingER taxes Shamia, just
- 1:42:33Speaker 1: say that Dustin, did you think that Shamia was out
- 1:42:38Speaker 1: of bounds for bringing the hoa receipt for the horse
- 1:42:42Speaker 1: that allegedly Drew rented to be surprised by this guy
- 1:42:48Speaker 1: that used to date.
- 1:42:50Speaker 2: A former Atlanta housewife allegedly.
- 1:42:53Speaker 6: I know he looked like he and Juvie, don't he?
- 1:42:56Speaker 5: Every time I say, I'm like, why does this niggas
- 1:42:58Speaker 5: look like a miscreant? You know what I'm saying, Nigga
- 1:43:03Speaker 5: looks wayward every time I see it. I don't know,
- 1:43:05Speaker 5: you just look like a bad and you know what else,
- 1:43:09Speaker 5: black don't crack. So that's probably why he looks.
- 1:43:11Speaker 6: Young like that, you know what I'm saying.
- 1:43:13Speaker 5: We just we don't age as fast. But it was
- 1:43:17Speaker 5: typical housewivalry. Of course Smia would give that bit because
- 1:43:21Speaker 5: I believe it was a real.
- 1:43:22Speaker 6: Fine from her ho a.
- 1:43:23Speaker 5: Everybody knows h oo A's are a pain in the ass,
- 1:43:26Speaker 5: so you know they will do something like that.
- 1:43:29Speaker 6: It just makes no sense.
- 1:43:31Speaker 5: And of course she brought it to the show, as
- 1:43:33Speaker 5: she should have. I thought it was just typical housewife
- 1:43:36Speaker 5: y and it gave us a little scuttle butt, you
- 1:43:38Speaker 5: know what I'm saying.
- 1:43:39Speaker 6: And that was it.
- 1:43:40Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Claudia.
- 1:43:45Speaker 5: Y'all know, he looked like he latched key stop playing,
- 1:43:48Speaker 5: y'all y'all know, damn yeah.
- 1:43:52Speaker 7: He was. He was uh.
- 1:43:56Speaker 3: He was hm hm hm.
- 1:44:00Speaker 4: You know when you go to see your maybe your
- 1:44:03Speaker 4: niece or your nephew in a school play and you
- 1:44:05Speaker 4: know they can and you know they can't act, they
- 1:44:07Speaker 4: can't sing, but you gotta be like, oh they could.
- 1:44:12Speaker 4: It was that kind of jay Z I was. I
- 1:44:15Speaker 4: was girl, drew you in danger?
- 1:44:16Speaker 7: Girl? What is that?
- 1:44:18Speaker 3: What?
- 1:44:18Speaker 7: What?
- 1:44:19Speaker 3: What was that?
- 1:44:20Speaker 7: I I I I'm sorry.
- 1:44:29Speaker 3: If that's jay Z, I'll keep saying that in what were.
- 1:44:42Speaker 4: I'm gonna I'm gonna excuse my I'm gonna give myself
- 1:44:44Speaker 4: a doctor's.
- 1:44:48Speaker 7: Okay, just just back away, back away. Second. Yeah, it was.
- 1:44:57Speaker 4: But like a lot of things, I can't say because
- 1:44:59Speaker 4: certain communities will come after me.
- 1:45:01Speaker 2: Okay, leave it right there, Blue, thank you. Maybe you
- 1:45:13Speaker 2: know what to do with. Claudia will come after me.
- 1:45:19Speaker 2: I'm doing good, not nothing blue blue your thoughts?
- 1:45:32Speaker 3: What?
- 1:45:33Speaker 2: Okay?
- 1:45:36Speaker 7: Yes?
- 1:45:37Speaker 3: Nothing fit?
- 1:45:39Speaker 7: Look man, mm hmm okay call you. I understand now,
- 1:45:44Speaker 7: so you know right, we.
- 1:45:49Speaker 3: Don't understand Claudia.
- 1:45:51Speaker 7: That's the problem.
- 1:45:51Speaker 6: Why you don't need to say nothing.
- 1:45:59Speaker 3: You know what you get another girl? I got a
- 1:46:04Speaker 3: mother like that horse got it. N I can't say that.
- 1:46:09Speaker 3: I can't say that. But then you want me to talk.
- 1:46:12Speaker 3: I don't know what you what you want?
- 1:46:14Speaker 7: The community? God, you don't even know the word.
- 1:46:18Speaker 4: I was gonna say, we all what does it begin with?
- 1:46:24Speaker 4: Go ahead, baby, Okay, I'll meeting myself.
- 1:46:38Speaker 7: It's no fun.
- 1:46:40Speaker 14: Look man, not everybody is able. And remember me different,
- 1:46:51Speaker 14: Please remember me different. It's for super Chatz girlos Okay,
- 1:46:57Speaker 14: So the.
- 1:46:58Speaker 7: Last why would you have the autistic girl? Go last
- 1:47:05Speaker 7: read the room, Carlos.
- 1:47:11Speaker 3: Everyone's autistic. So we're no.
- 1:47:15Speaker 7: I got diagnosed book me for a long time.
- 1:47:19Speaker 3: I'm going back on mute.
- 1:47:22Speaker 2: Okay, So I want to move on.
- 1:47:24Speaker 7: I want to move on.
- 1:47:26Speaker 2: So came.
- 1:47:28Speaker 1: Michelle performed her new single Jesus and Whiskey, and she
- 1:47:35Speaker 1: also performed her hit B S O.
- 1:47:38Speaker 6: P I love.
- 1:47:39Speaker 1: When she gave the mic to the the girls, the
- 1:47:41Speaker 1: other girls are singing, yeah, Drew Sodor's turn juice adorous,
- 1:47:45Speaker 1: like I don't know the words, and I love to
- 1:47:48Speaker 1: see like Cay Mishelle, like Drew, I love you. It's
- 1:47:50Speaker 1: all good, like whatever, And I thought all the girls
- 1:47:53Speaker 1: had fun. But what happened in the end when all
- 1:47:57Speaker 1: of a sudden.
- 1:48:00Speaker 15: Which which it just it happened so fast where Drew
- 1:48:05Speaker 15: and ky Michelle were exchanging pleasantries and like, you know,
- 1:48:10Speaker 15: I love you, I love you to a good job.
- 1:48:13Speaker 1: You know, we had our issue at the beginning, and
- 1:48:16Speaker 1: then the thing of Black was brought up, and then
- 1:48:18Speaker 1: Drew got out her phone to prove with the receipt
- 1:48:23Speaker 1: that Cay Michelle was responding to Black somebody that she said,
- 1:48:29Speaker 1: Kim Michelle acted like.
- 1:48:31Speaker 2: You to know this person.
- 1:48:32Speaker 1: Drew brought it back all the way to the season
- 1:48:34Speaker 1: premiere and said, even at Porsche's house during her event,
- 1:48:39Speaker 1: you saw Black on FaceTime and acknowledge him. So they
- 1:48:43Speaker 1: get into it and Drew falls on the floor and
- 1:48:50Speaker 1: baby ky Michelle was taken away by security. Claudia, what are.
- 1:48:56Speaker 2: Her thoughts on all of this? Because it literally came
- 1:48:59Speaker 2: out of nowhere.
- 1:49:03Speaker 3: M there's a lot of crazy going on here, like
- 1:49:06Speaker 3: you just never know what came to show. You just
- 1:49:08Speaker 3: never know what you're gonna get. Like it's calm, that
- 1:49:10Speaker 3: it's not that it's up, then it's not, it's down.
- 1:49:13Speaker 4: And it's like I would never feel settled or able
- 1:49:16Speaker 4: to relax because you just never know where it's gonna
- 1:49:18Speaker 4: go right, And I'm like, do they cut something out?
- 1:49:22Speaker 3: Did they cut something out?
- 1:49:24Speaker 7: The Hennessy huh? Allegedly allegedly, I'm so sorry, go ahead,
- 1:49:31Speaker 7: we need to wrap up. I'm so sorry.
- 1:49:39Speaker 3: I'm meeting myself because I'm so used to being silence
- 1:49:41Speaker 3: on this platform.
- 1:49:46Speaker 4: They when the light is green, I'm on when it
- 1:49:50Speaker 4: goes red. Someone tried it, Okay, I'm gonna let you
- 1:49:54Speaker 4: do this, Okay.
- 1:49:56Speaker 3: So like they'd be saying I love you and stuff
- 1:49:58Speaker 3: and then like a second later, like they've beyond ten.
- 1:50:00Speaker 3: I'm like, what is this? What is the reason?
- 1:50:03Speaker 4: Like I would be nervous, like always in that situation
- 1:50:06Speaker 4: where you just never know what's gonna go left. I
- 1:50:10Speaker 4: don't know why Black is so triggering for for kmashell,
- 1:50:14Speaker 4: for both of them. Actually, why is he so triggering,
- 1:50:16Speaker 4: Like they turn up over this dude that allegedly no
- 1:50:20Speaker 4: one even messed with. You know what I'm saying, right,
- 1:50:24Speaker 4: that's true, Like they really like Black is really a
- 1:50:27Speaker 4: They need to go ahead and give him a half
- 1:50:28Speaker 4: a peach or at at least a peach pit something
- 1:50:31Speaker 4: because the way he is like able to activate, like
- 1:50:34Speaker 4: they will be saying I love you, and then two
- 1:50:37Speaker 4: it's like ten seconds later, black thing gets brought up,
- 1:50:40Speaker 4: all held broke, loose, people falling on the ground, getting
- 1:50:44Speaker 4: back up, people being vindicated.
- 1:50:45Speaker 3: It's a lot, and I just don't know why, Like
- 1:50:48Speaker 3: we need to dive deep into that next season.
- 1:50:50Speaker 7: Well, I think the reunion that somebody mentioned, I think
- 1:50:53Speaker 7: Andy's gonna mention his cases or whatever's pending. Here's the thing.
- 1:50:56Speaker 7: I will tell Caelle some bail because I think for
- 1:50:59Speaker 7: the most part I was on Drew side because k
- 1:51:01Speaker 7: Michelle was, you know, shadow boxing. I kept on comparing
- 1:51:03Speaker 7: her lady arguing to the empty chair on the train.
- 1:51:09Speaker 7: It I lose it. No, But like this one time
- 1:51:12Speaker 7: ca Michelle made sense because she said I was just
- 1:51:15Speaker 7: being warm, Like when I see people, if I've even
- 1:51:17Speaker 7: seen you in passing, I'm be like, hey, love and
- 1:51:19Speaker 7: I'll like, that doesn't mean that we're close. And I
- 1:51:22Speaker 7: think when ky Michelle said just because we were being
- 1:51:25Speaker 7: warm this we were being close, a part of me
- 1:51:27Speaker 7: was like, do we want to believe this? But then
- 1:51:31Speaker 7: she said, hey, handsome, and then I was like, ooh,
- 1:51:33Speaker 7: that that does feel a little bit off, came Michelle.
- 1:51:36Speaker 7: I'd be wanting to root for her. I'm biased in
- 1:51:38Speaker 7: her favor, but then she keeps talking, you know when
- 1:51:42Speaker 7: you're rooting for somebody. And if they would just stop
- 1:51:44Speaker 7: that sentence there, we could all agree that the fine, we'll, we'll,
- 1:51:48Speaker 7: we'll take that sis.
- 1:51:50Speaker 3: Yeah, I know all about that.
- 1:51:54Speaker 2: Relationship you're talking about, by the way blue, and then.
- 1:51:57Speaker 7: They keep talking like okay, wow, I don't know we're
- 1:52:01Speaker 7: gonna end up here. That's came a shot for me.
- 1:52:03Speaker 7: All season. I've been so close to her that she
- 1:52:05Speaker 7: gets stuck and I'm like, damn.
- 1:52:08Speaker 6: First of all, came Michelle started it.
- 1:52:11Speaker 5: She started, I'm talking about season one, season seventeen, episode one,
- 1:52:16Speaker 5: the minute that they were on that not even episode one,
- 1:52:19Speaker 5: but at the beginning of the season, when they were
- 1:52:21Speaker 5: in Dallas I believe it was or yeah, they were
- 1:52:25Speaker 5: in Dallas and they were in the Sprinter and when
- 1:52:27Speaker 5: when the comment was first made, Cay Michelle started this
- 1:52:31Speaker 5: shit about Black. She started, He's the person who created
- 1:52:35Speaker 5: an issue over Black. We all were like, where is
- 1:52:38Speaker 5: this vitriol and this energy coming from for her? Why
- 1:52:41Speaker 5: is she so passionate and upset about this? And Drew
- 1:52:44Speaker 5: it felt misplaced. None of it Land or that Yoda
- 1:52:48Speaker 5: like yo like he who or whatever she was saying,
- 1:52:50Speaker 5: all of that shit, it just all felt misplaced. And
- 1:52:53Speaker 5: so Drew has been sitting this season the whole time
- 1:52:57Speaker 5: like why is this girl on my ass like this?
- 1:52:59Speaker 6: Why is she?
- 1:53:01Speaker 3: Why?
- 1:53:01Speaker 6: Where is this coming from?
- 1:53:02Speaker 5: And Drew defended herself and you can't get mad at
- 1:53:05Speaker 5: her to me for pulling up a receipt that that
- 1:53:08Speaker 5: that blatantly highlighted a lie that ca Michelle told because
- 1:53:12Speaker 5: she do know who Black is and she did act
- 1:53:15Speaker 5: familiar with Black when they was at Porsa's house on
- 1:53:18Speaker 5: that phone, she acted like it was an old friend.
- 1:53:21Speaker 6: Shout out to Phyllis Hymon. You know what I'm saying.
- 1:53:23Speaker 5: She acted like it was an old friend on that phone, Okay,
- 1:53:26Speaker 5: And she acted very like everything I just said.
- 1:53:29Speaker 2: I tried very familiar.
- 1:53:32Speaker 5: She did get Drew for pulling the ship up at
- 1:53:35Speaker 5: the finale. I don't matter when I get my lick back,
- 1:53:38Speaker 5: I'm gonna get you.
- 1:53:40Speaker 2: And that's what it is, and that's fair.
- 1:53:42Speaker 1: But the thing is this, I think there's a difference
- 1:53:45Speaker 1: between I'm familiar with somebody and I know them, and
- 1:53:49Speaker 1: I do think was a game of some mantics. I
- 1:53:51Speaker 1: think Michelle was like, I'm aware of who he is. Listen,
- 1:53:55Speaker 1: I'm aware of who Black is. It doesn't mean I
- 1:53:57Speaker 1: know him Black because Tamar, I know Black because he
- 1:54:04Speaker 1: sponsors ads on Shade Room for his his Because so
- 1:54:07Speaker 1: I'm familiar with Black, I don't. I don't know Black, right,
- 1:54:10Speaker 1: So I thought that came Mischelle was saying from that
- 1:54:13Speaker 1: fascist point.
- 1:54:14Speaker 2: Hey, look but I agree with you. You can't tell
- 1:54:17Speaker 2: somebody went to bring receipts and and that's why for me,
- 1:54:20Speaker 2: I will give Drew this. Drew was doing her job.
- 1:54:24Speaker 1: It's a finale, and she knew finales are meant to
- 1:54:29Speaker 1: be explosive and she wanted to prove her before the
- 1:54:32Speaker 1: season ended. I am mad at Drew for it, right,
- 1:54:37Speaker 1: I am mad that Drew slipped. I blame the culprit.
- 1:54:43Speaker 1: I still would say, although doing her job, I do
- 1:54:47Speaker 1: think Drew started it.
- 1:54:48Speaker 5: No, wait, hold on, sister, because we got to get
- 1:54:51Speaker 5: to the bottom of how do you I'm talking about Claudia.
- 1:54:56Speaker 3: I'm talking to me talking.
- 1:55:01Speaker 2: Yeah, but remember Blue, I'm a messy queen. You remember,
- 1:55:05Speaker 2: got it?
- 1:55:06Speaker 6: Like, ah shit, The point is okay, See, the point
- 1:55:13Speaker 6: is you know what I'm saying. The point is.
- 1:55:18Speaker 2: Right right, daddy.
- 1:55:19Speaker 5: It was like, yeah, Claudia, point is Cay Michelle was
- 1:55:23Speaker 5: lying and she started fucking with Drew all season long.
- 1:55:28Speaker 6: She been fucking with Drew out of nowhere. I'd have
- 1:55:30Speaker 6: left field.
- 1:55:31Speaker 5: It never saw resolved that all them pleasantries they were
- 1:55:35Speaker 5: exchanging was being ky. Michelle was being fake as hell,
- 1:55:39Speaker 5: talking about she loved you, Drew and all the other stuff,
- 1:55:41Speaker 5: knowing she can't stand Drew. She talking about her singing,
- 1:55:44Speaker 5: talking about personal things like how much how far she's
- 1:55:47Speaker 5: gotten in her career and shit.
- 1:55:49Speaker 6: When they're on the exact same show. So that never
- 1:55:51Speaker 6: made sense to me. But talking about how far Drew
- 1:55:53Speaker 6: didn't get in all this just horrible stuff that you
- 1:55:55Speaker 6: can say to.
- 1:55:56Speaker 5: Somebody who's pursuing the career in the arts. And Cay
- 1:55:59Speaker 5: Michelle has crossed all kinds of lines of seriousness. Right,
- 1:56:02Speaker 5: she's went into a territory that takes it from like, oh,
- 1:56:06Speaker 5: let's just have a little band turn and go back
- 1:56:08Speaker 5: and forth to now character assassinations, all that shit. So
- 1:56:12Speaker 5: now drew wrong she was, she restarted and reignited the beef.
- 1:56:17Speaker 6: No she didn't.
- 1:56:17Speaker 5: She called out, came a shell like and by the way,
- 1:56:20Speaker 5: you've been lying this whole time, because here go a
- 1:56:22Speaker 5: text message back from February when you called this nigga handsome,
- 1:56:26Speaker 5: which is specific and that means you laid your eyes
- 1:56:28Speaker 5: on him and and and identified his beauty as an
- 1:56:32Speaker 5: identifying marker in it, in who he is, you know him?
- 1:56:37Speaker 5: You lying, you started it, It didn't go nowhere, and
- 1:56:40Speaker 5: now we're left with these this this rubble and debris
- 1:56:44Speaker 5: from a beef that never even was.
- 1:56:46Speaker 6: And Drew then fell on the floor trying to prove, hey,
- 1:56:49Speaker 6: you a damn liar.
- 1:56:50Speaker 5: She went down, but when she came back up, she
- 1:56:53Speaker 5: had that phone out and she had that message from February.
- 1:56:57Speaker 6: Okay, she had that phone out that said, hey, handsome,
- 1:57:01Speaker 6: thank you so much. And when came Michelle seen him,
- 1:57:03Speaker 6: she got.
- 1:57:03Speaker 7: Hey, good to see you.
- 1:57:06Speaker 6: It's good to see you too, green suit, soig up
- 1:57:12Speaker 6: like came and.
- 1:57:17Speaker 4: I agree because in the beginning wasn't like when Drew
- 1:57:21Speaker 4: mentioned him what's her name?
- 1:57:23Speaker 7: Ca?
- 1:57:23Speaker 4: Michelle was quick to be like she knew him, right,
- 1:57:26Speaker 4: But then when Drew held a narrator and said you
- 1:57:29Speaker 4: know him, then it was I don't know him.
- 1:57:31Speaker 3: So I'm like, which is it?
- 1:57:33Speaker 7: And maybe she mean biblically like I think because she
- 1:57:35Speaker 7: acted the second time like it was like like there
- 1:57:37Speaker 7: was sauce on it that I didn't understand, but she
- 1:57:39Speaker 7: was hearing voices.
- 1:57:39Speaker 3: But d you didn't say they smashed.
- 1:57:41Speaker 2: She just said and.
- 1:57:43Speaker 7: She's back on that train clubby.
- 1:57:45Speaker 3: Drew did not say she smashed. I feel like Michelle,
- 1:57:48Speaker 3: it was almost like a guilty conscience, like are you
- 1:57:50Speaker 3: trying to.
- 1:57:50Speaker 7: Say that nowhere?
- 1:57:52Speaker 4: People were like and that made it weird if she
- 1:57:54Speaker 4: just said you knew him. Listen, Atlanta is small, and yes,
- 1:57:58Speaker 4: people do being dms and black.
- 1:58:00Speaker 3: Listen.
- 1:58:00Speaker 4: He sends people cases of those foot hookers all the time.
- 1:58:04Speaker 4: He's like, they're they're really good.
- 1:58:06Speaker 7: No, I've had one, but I was like a case, yeah,
- 1:58:11Speaker 7: they're really.
- 1:58:12Speaker 4: Like yeah, and so like I didn't see like, I
- 1:58:16Speaker 4: feel like it was Kay that escalated that to make
- 1:58:18Speaker 4: it a bigger deal. When Judn say, oh, we have
- 1:58:22Speaker 4: something in common, we both shared a man, she just said, yeah,
- 1:58:26Speaker 4: I know, you know, like you know him. And and
- 1:58:28Speaker 4: the fact that Kay was pushing so hard against she
- 1:58:30Speaker 4: didn't when she started off saying she did. I get
- 1:58:32Speaker 4: why you would be frustrated, and it may seem petty
- 1:58:34Speaker 4: to bring it up seventeen episodes later, but I would
- 1:58:37Speaker 4: probably be the same way, like, Yo, the entire time,
- 1:58:39Speaker 4: you try to make me like I'm tripping. You made
- 1:58:41Speaker 4: this big fight with me in Dallas, because I remember
- 1:58:43Speaker 4: getting the calls from Dallas like, Yo, some shit happened
- 1:58:46Speaker 4: on set of the you know we all heard about that,
- 1:58:48Speaker 4: right with Yeah, the blogs like that something went down,
- 1:58:50Speaker 4: and then you watch them like damn, why did the
- 1:58:52Speaker 4: estate so crazy over this? Like it got to where
- 1:58:55Speaker 4: it looked like they was about to fight over knowing
- 1:58:58Speaker 4: a guy and not knowing guy, and neither one of
- 1:59:00Speaker 4: aren't even accusing each other of being physical and intimate
- 1:59:03Speaker 4: or him getting the draw, So why is this such
- 1:59:04Speaker 4: a big deal? That's why I think there's more to
- 1:59:06Speaker 4: it that even if there wasn't it makes us think
- 1:59:08Speaker 4: there is And kay, I think you handle it wrong
- 1:59:11Speaker 4: by reacting like that, because now something in your celebrity
- 1:59:14Speaker 4: mad people are gonna say they know you that don't
- 1:59:16Speaker 4: even really know you like that. That happens every single
- 1:59:18Speaker 4: day to anyone that's even mildly famous, never mind someone
- 1:59:21Speaker 4: who was really famous. Right, So like her reaction did
- 1:59:24Speaker 4: not really fit, Like I'm like, why would you tripple
- 1:59:26Speaker 4: like that? You could be like, oh yeah, girl, you know,
- 1:59:28Speaker 4: I mean people all the time they be my DM
- 1:59:30Speaker 4: and it just got it seemed.
- 1:59:31Speaker 3: Now it seems like I want to dig now when
- 1:59:33Speaker 3: I didn't. I shouldn't. We shouldn't be thinking that.
- 1:59:35Speaker 7: But Claudia, what about that scheme? Do you think that
- 1:59:37Speaker 7: maybe whoever? And we're not gonna say it, Shamia, because
- 1:59:40Speaker 7: you know this lost speculation. But the difference between the
- 1:59:43Speaker 7: first episode, cause I like where this is going. You know,
- 1:59:44Speaker 7: I love to me some dateline, So this is like
- 1:59:46Speaker 7: we have a little thing on with the lines with
- 1:59:47Speaker 7: the record. The only thing that's changed from the first
- 1:59:52Speaker 7: episode where knowing him wasn't a problem. So the episode
- 1:59:55Speaker 7: in Dallas were suddenly just mentioning him. I didn't talk.
- 1:59:57Speaker 7: What's going on, like she freaked out. Was by the
- 2:00:00Speaker 7: time Dallas happened, somebody, according to Kate, Michelle said there
- 2:00:04Speaker 7: was a scheme against her. So now if you think
- 2:00:06Speaker 7: there's a scheme against you, suddenly things that might have
- 2:00:09Speaker 7: seen benign previously have you on edge? Do you think
- 2:00:13Speaker 7: that the scheme To this day we still know who
- 2:00:15Speaker 7: the health if it was k or the voices or somebody,
- 2:00:17Speaker 7: We don't know who told her the scheme, right, But
- 2:00:19Speaker 7: I do think the addition of the scheme storyline, whether
- 2:00:22Speaker 7: it was true or not or in her imagination, suddenly
- 2:00:25Speaker 7: makes it feel like everything you did was seen with
- 2:00:27Speaker 7: a different lens. At that point, it was have you
- 2:00:29Speaker 7: heard about the scheme?
- 2:00:30Speaker 3: Po scheme? I think she told us how the scheme?
- 2:00:34Speaker 7: Yikes?
- 2:00:34Speaker 2: No, Like, I don't think. I don't think that.
- 2:00:37Speaker 3: Explain what did you say? Okay, maybe maybe something will come.
- 2:00:43Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely think somebody told her that a scheme
- 2:00:47Speaker 1: was taking place. I definitely I don't think she made
- 2:00:49Speaker 1: that up. But I do think I do think to
- 2:00:53Speaker 1: Drew's point, and I will I will say this again.
- 2:00:57Speaker 1: When came Michelle joined Atlanta House, while she was entering
- 2:00:59Speaker 1: some thing that was new for her, and I do think, obviously,
- 2:01:05Speaker 1: like anybody, you're pairing away, right, And I do believe that,
- 2:01:09Speaker 1: perhaps to Blue's point that in her being new to
- 2:01:16Speaker 1: see that this Black thing could have been something big.
- 2:01:20Speaker 1: I definitely think, like Lewis saying, there could have been
- 2:01:23Speaker 1: some thoughts in her mind, like are you trying.
- 2:01:25Speaker 2: To add bodies to my situation? And I know that's
- 2:01:28Speaker 2: a stretch, that's a stretch, but I think reality, like
- 2:01:33Speaker 2: love and hip hop.
- 2:01:34Speaker 1: Well you've been a love and hip hop, you do
- 2:01:37Speaker 1: go into scenes thinking like when is the shoot on
- 2:01:39Speaker 1: the draw?
- 2:01:39Speaker 4: You have PTSD for sure, but here's my thing, Like again,
- 2:01:43Speaker 4: my parfation with this cast once again is the same
- 2:01:47Speaker 4: energy as not being kept for the same worst offenses,
- 2:01:52Speaker 4: like this whole scheme about Black where no one's even
- 2:01:54Speaker 4: accusing of him getting the draws right, But then there
- 2:01:57Speaker 4: was Oystergate, right, and how quickly she is able to
- 2:02:00Speaker 4: move on from that.
- 2:02:01Speaker 3: But with Drew, it's an easy kill. It's an easy
- 2:02:04Speaker 3: like tagging each other coming for her career saying she
- 2:02:07Speaker 3: ain't shit.
- 2:02:08Speaker 4: Listen, both ladies are talented in their own areas. Drew
- 2:02:11Speaker 4: is a fantastic actor and she is a good singer
- 2:02:13Speaker 4: ky Michelle. I don't know about her acting, but I
- 2:02:15Speaker 4: can say she is a one I don't know because
- 2:02:17Speaker 4: I don't have never seen her in acting, right, she
- 2:02:19Speaker 4: is one a fantastic, exceptional singer.
- 2:02:23Speaker 3: There no need for either of them to be dragging
- 2:02:24Speaker 3: each other when it comes to town.
- 2:02:25Speaker 6: Like they both agree.
- 2:02:27Speaker 3: I thought those are very cheap shots being made and
- 2:02:29Speaker 3: I don't think that shit was cute at all. And
- 2:02:30Speaker 3: I think they need to stop, like knock that ship
- 2:02:32Speaker 3: out because.
- 2:02:33Speaker 4: I'm sick of I love you one scene than being
- 2:02:35Speaker 4: a key a confessional gangster or saying stuff later and
- 2:02:38Speaker 4: I just want to get everybody together.
- 2:02:40Speaker 3: You don't it's given. It's like I don't know what
- 2:02:43Speaker 3: to expect today tomorrow.
- 2:02:44Speaker 7: Like I'm medicated, it's giving un meeticated a little bit.
- 2:02:47Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to go.
- 2:02:53Speaker 3: I think all these girls are insane.
- 2:02:55Speaker 1: Well no, I and look, I will say that what
- 2:02:59Speaker 1: we were able to see us the girls in me
- 2:03:02Speaker 1: and take a picture. Like Claudia said earlier in the
- 2:03:06Speaker 1: in the Live you know Angela asked me, are you
- 2:03:09Speaker 1: in Portia good?
- 2:03:10Speaker 2: And you know you could tell they wanted to get
- 2:03:13Speaker 2: a moment. In the end, it fell flat.
- 2:03:16Speaker 6: And look, that was that.
- 2:03:18Speaker 2: But I will say this, bravo to the season eighteen cast.
- 2:03:23Speaker 1: You know, this season, this season was talked about in
- 2:03:27Speaker 1: the way that I haven't seen a very long time.
- 2:03:31Speaker 1: It was really very entertaining and we all had a
- 2:03:35Speaker 1: good time recapping it.
- 2:03:40Speaker 7: So they drained me. Marlow Hampson shout out.
- 2:03:50Speaker 2: So thank you you rain drops.
- 2:03:52Speaker 1: I love you guys, I love you Claudia, welcome back, Dustin,
- 2:03:56Speaker 1: I love you Blue, And I will see you guys
- 2:04:00Speaker 1: next week.
- 2:04:01Speaker 3: By you know, Joe