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Jeff Legwold joins Kreckman and Lindahl 4-25-25 · Jeff Legwold ESPN Broncos Reports

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  Speaker 1: Leggy, not Landy. Leggy is with us right now. He
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  Speaker 1: joins us from a parking lot outside the Denver Broncos
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  Speaker 1: facility right now, Jeff legwald Man, when when the Denver
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  Speaker 1: Broncos make a selection at number twenty and you had
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  Speaker 1: that guy, let's check number eight in the top one hundred,
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  Speaker 1: do do you get up and start dancing an Irish
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  Speaker 1: jig and just telling everybody I'm the smartest person in
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  Speaker 1: the room, because Leggy, there you were saying, and I
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  Speaker 1: remember reading this line when I read the top one hundred.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, some people might scoff at Baron being
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  Speaker 1: this high. Uh, why did you have him rated so highly?
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  Speaker 2: Bye? It's just simply, you know, if Travis Hunter isn't
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  Speaker 2: doing Travis Hunter amazing things, you know, Barns probably CB
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  Speaker 2: one on most teams draft boards, and his versatility is lauded,
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  Speaker 2: you know, universally. But he just got caught up in
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  Speaker 2: the swirl in the public domain. I think because of
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  Speaker 2: Travis Hunter's you know, two way prospects, and you know,
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  Speaker 2: in a weird year when the quarterbacks were just so
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  Speaker 2: much of the swirl, you know that the Broncos have
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  Speaker 2: made it clear they as you know, after Miami picks
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  Speaker 2: at like thirteen, they're staring up at their draft board
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  Speaker 2: and Baron's name is up near the top, and then
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  Speaker 2: there's this immense gap between the next group of players.
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  Speaker 2: And when you're a team and you look up when
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  Speaker 2: you're pi's approaching and you have that kind of gap,
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  Speaker 2: it's a no brainer to take the player who's rated
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  Speaker 2: so highly. And I have been told he was a
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  Speaker 2: top ten player on their board. You know, again, a
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  Speaker 2: no brainer, and such a no brainer that Sean Payton,
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  Speaker 2: head coach of the Denver Broncos and noted offensive enthusiasts,
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  Speaker 2: didn't even hesitate to take Baron with the first pick.
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  Speaker 3: All right, well, that's great value. What makes him so valuable?
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  Speaker 3: What position will he play?
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  Speaker 2: Here? Is he?
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  Speaker 3: Jeff the defensive joker?
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  Speaker 2: He is? I mean he this is a guy again,
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  Speaker 2: if we're not talking about Travis Hunter, this guy's versatility
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  Speaker 2: would be would be lauded. He had at least five
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  Speaker 2: hundred career snaps at Texas at outside corner, slot corner,
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  Speaker 2: and safety, and that's almost unheard of in that level
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  Speaker 2: of football to have that kind of versatility in a defense,
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  Speaker 2: to be able to mentally learn it, and the physically
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  Speaker 2: play it remarkable. And I and all of the tape
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  Speaker 2: I reviewed of him, I did not see him miss
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  Speaker 2: a single tackle, And I can't honestly remember the last
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  Speaker 2: player I could say that about.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's a good sign right there. He was
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  Speaker 1: the MVP defensive MVP of the Peach Bowl last year.
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  Speaker 1: He had eleven tackles in that game against Arizona State.
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  Speaker 1: Here's another one that jumped out of me LEGI when
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  Speaker 1: I saw this, like, obviously four three, nine forty, the
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  Speaker 1: measurables were really good on Baron. He had two defensive
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  Speaker 1: pass interference flags thrown at him his last thirty five
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  Speaker 1: collegiate games, which I mean immediately suggests there doesn't need
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  Speaker 1: to be any easing in this guy is ready for
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  Speaker 1: big time duty the moment that he walks onto an
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  Speaker 1: NFL field.
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  Speaker 2: You know, just learning the scheme is one thing, but
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  Speaker 2: he might. You could make the argument on a talent equation,
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  Speaker 2: he's he's as talented an outside corner as Riley Moss
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  Speaker 2: and maybe better and as talented a nickel corner as
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  Speaker 2: Jacon McMillan, and as talented as safety as PJ Locke.
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  Speaker 2: So I you know, people always have been asking me, oh,
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  Speaker 2: you know, where's he going to play. You know, they're
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  Speaker 2: going to play him wherever they want to, and he's
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  Speaker 2: going to be a not just a contributor. He is
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  Speaker 2: going to make one of the league's best defenses a
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  Speaker 2: really difficult riddle to solve because you cannot have enough
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  Speaker 2: coverage guys like this, and you put this in a
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  Speaker 2: secondary you're suddenly allowed to move Pats or Tanner around
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  Speaker 2: more because of what this guy can do. And again,
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  Speaker 2: for me, you know, as a long time draft guy,
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  Speaker 2: value is everything to me, and this is such a
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  Speaker 2: ridiculous no brainer. I can't even understand any of the
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  Speaker 2: hand ringing. He is so much better than any receiver
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  Speaker 2: that was on the board. And I keep hearing people
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  Speaker 2: tell me what about Matthew Golden. I got news for you.
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  Speaker 2: They have you know, they have Matthew Golden. His name's
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  Speaker 2: Marvin Mims, and he's better. So you know, this is
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  Speaker 2: a no brainer.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Like you along those lines, like adding strength to strength,
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  Speaker 1: the way that the Broncos did, the fact that virtually
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  Speaker 1: nobody had them mocked connected to a corner connected to Baron,
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  Speaker 1: but the Broncos willingness to do that for the Broncos,
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  Speaker 1: willingness to say at number twenty, we're gonna put value
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  Speaker 1: above all else. What does that tell you about the
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  Speaker 1: decision making process right now with the Broncos, Because I
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  Speaker 1: think last night we saw some reaches, We saw some
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  Speaker 1: interesting decision some interesting trades that were made. Last night.
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  Speaker 1: The Broncos just hung out and did the sound thing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they did what good teams do. What the Ravens do,
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  Speaker 2: what you know for the long you know, what the
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  Speaker 2: Eagles do. This is what good teams do in the
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  Speaker 2: draft is you're unafraid to add really good players and
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  Speaker 2: just figure out the rest. You know, it's a talent business.
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  Speaker 2: Teams with the most talent usually win the most games.
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  Speaker 2: And sure it's character in chemistry and scheme and all
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  Speaker 2: of those things, but talent is the foundation of it all.
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  Speaker 2: And this guy was by far the most talented football
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  Speaker 2: player available when they made their pick. And I think
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  Speaker 2: it shows a level. I think the fact that Sean
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  Speaker 2: Payton didn't hesitate like he he was saying last night,
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  Speaker 2: you know, it's ridiculous to even think about that. There
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  Speaker 2: was a decision making and you know, the interesting thing
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  Speaker 2: is behind the scenes, and I talk to people. Usually
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  Speaker 2: when the pick's approaching, there's there's not frantic, but there's
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  Speaker 2: a lot of Okay, bring in the position coach to
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  Speaker 2: talk about this guy, bring in the scout to talk
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  Speaker 2: about this other guy quick, you know. But while we're
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  Speaker 2: on the they didn't do any of that. Their pick
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  Speaker 2: rolled up, they looked up, they saw Baron's name and
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  Speaker 2: they put it in and that was it. And that's
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  Speaker 2: what a big gap it was between him and the
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  Speaker 2: other available players. And Sean Payton called the anything else
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  Speaker 2: other than taking Baron? He used the phrase a trade
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  Speaker 2: down scenario. So that tells you where the grades were
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  Speaker 2: when they made the pick.
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  Speaker 3: All right, we do want to get to talking about
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  Speaker 3: today and what you think could happen, But before that,
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  Speaker 3: I want to revisit one last point because this is
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  Speaker 3: why I do like to pick. I always remember in
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  Speaker 3: twenty fifteen, I asked you, as we started to figure
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  Speaker 3: out that was a pretty special defense, why are they
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  Speaker 3: so good? And you told me they could rush and
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  Speaker 3: they could cover. Are the Broncos getting close to being
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  Speaker 3: able to put that kind of combo again?
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  Speaker 2: At that level, that's where you have to be, you know,
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  Speaker 2: are you gonna win quarterback battles with Pat Mahomes? You know,
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  Speaker 2: you've got to be able to answer and to answer
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  Speaker 2: in today's NFL when you're in the nick defense, when
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  Speaker 2: you're in a specialty defense seventy percent of the time,
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  Speaker 2: I guess it's no longer specialty for one thing. But
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  Speaker 2: you need at least four viable corners to play quality
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  Speaker 2: defense in the league right now. And this guy himself
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  Speaker 2: gives them four quality corners and three safeties and a
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  Speaker 2: dime linebacker who can cover. And again, I'm being honest,
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  Speaker 2: I cannot honestly remember the last prospect I evaluated who
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  Speaker 2: I didn't see miss a tackle. It's so rare, and
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  Speaker 2: it's anecdotal, I know, but I cannot remember the last guy.
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  Speaker 2: This guy gets people on the ground, he makes plays
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  Speaker 2: behind the line of scrimmage. It's rare. You even see
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  Speaker 2: a completion against him in the SEC. So this is
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  Speaker 2: a fabulous player. I think people's opinions may be clouded
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  Speaker 2: because it's like, well, it'll be so good, how'd they
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  Speaker 2: get him at twenty? Well, people make mistakes, and a
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  Speaker 2: few years from now there will be a couple of
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  Speaker 2: teams saying we probably shouldn't have taken that guard or
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  Speaker 2: a defensive tackle instead.
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  Speaker 1: Talking to Jeff Lakewell, he is outside the facility right now,
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  Speaker 1: as the Round two will get going in about twenty
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  Speaker 1: nine minutes or so, LEGGI, let's stay in the first
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  Speaker 1: round for a moment. I want to continue to talk
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  Speaker 1: about picks that you loved. One of them, I'm assuming,
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  Speaker 1: and again Howie Roseman, big shock. But to Hod Campbell
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  Speaker 1: going at thirty one to Philadelphia, the Eagles jumping up
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  Speaker 1: a spot to go and get him. You had him
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  Speaker 1: number eleven in your top one hundred. Hey again the Eagles,
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  Speaker 1: what a concept. Just load up your defense with awesome,
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  Speaker 1: fast SEC defenders. It's really worked out for those guys.
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  Speaker 1: They're the Super Bowl champions. What else in the first
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  Speaker 1: round where picks that kind of jumped out of you
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  Speaker 1: and said, okay, that was really savvy, that was good.
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  Speaker 2: Well, of course I'm gonna like the Walter Nolan pick.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I had them a top five player in
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  Speaker 2: my my little list. And you know, the Cardinals I
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  Speaker 2: believe took them down the board. I think those three
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  Speaker 2: defenders the Broncos taken Barren included were my three. Those
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  Speaker 2: were the picks that really caught my eye. And and
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  Speaker 2: you know the Ravens. The Ravens just hang in and
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  Speaker 2: they take yet another player fits them perfectly.
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  Speaker 1: Again, another team that had no problem Leggy adding strength
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  Speaker 1: to strength and taking Malachi starts.
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  Speaker 2: I'll how you do it? You know, I know it's
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  Speaker 2: hard for people to accept, but the draft is a
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  Speaker 2: value business and the good teams acquire talent and then
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  Speaker 2: your job as professional football coaches is to figure out
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  Speaker 2: how to disperse the talent. But it does you no
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  Speaker 2: good the draft. A need player who you know, is
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  Speaker 2: graded all behind the people you left up on the board.
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  Speaker 2: It's because you're not adding talent. Then you're adding space fillers.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's like a football coaster. It's not helping you.
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  Speaker 2: And I think that, like I say that, year after year,
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  Speaker 2: the Super Bowl teams are usually draft built teams, and
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  Speaker 2: the best draft built teams take the most talented players
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  Speaker 2: when the picks roll around.
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  Speaker 3: All right, what do we think we got on tap
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  Speaker 3: for today? I mean, I know there's a lot left,
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  Speaker 3: especially offensive.
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  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 3: It was interesting because in Matt Miller's mock draft, they've
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  Speaker 3: got the defensive tackle out of Toledo possibly being the
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  Speaker 3: Broncos second round pick at fifty one. Do you think
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  Speaker 3: they could surprise us with more defensive Do you think
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  Speaker 3: they go offensive today?
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  Speaker 2: It will be a substantial shock to me if there
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  Speaker 2: isn't at least one running back among these two picks,
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  Speaker 2: because the strength of the board is the second round
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  Speaker 2: is loaded with running backs, and they can they will
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  Speaker 2: have at least three running backs available, or at least
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  Speaker 2: one or two of the three running backs, and they've
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  Speaker 2: spent a lot of time with I would expect would
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  Speaker 2: be available at fifty one, either Samson atn or in
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  Speaker 2: a quirky world, Henderson. And think one of those one
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  Speaker 2: or two of those three I think will still be
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  Speaker 2: on the board when they pick at fifty one, and
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  Speaker 2: they've spent considerable time with all three.
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  Speaker 1: Do you think Denver likes Gwin John Judkins, who could
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  Speaker 1: also be there at fifty one.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, they again, they've spent some time with him.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just saying those other three are probably a little
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  Speaker 2: more of the more versatile player that they're looking for.
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  Speaker 2: Judkins is is a really, really really good inside the
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  Speaker 2: tackles runner, inside the hash marks and does have the
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  Speaker 2: speed to get the corner so's he's a great back,
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  Speaker 2: but I think their third down portfolio doesn't at much bigger,
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  Speaker 2: at least his rookie and second year maybe down the line.
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  Speaker 2: But the other guys have a little bigger third down
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  Speaker 2: portfolio that I think helps them quicker.
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  Speaker 1: Legy some interesting tight end stuff that happened last night,
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  Speaker 1: and something else that Denver could potentially be looking at.
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  Speaker 1: But Colston Lovelin ends up being the first tight end
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  Speaker 1: off the board. Ben Johnson in Chicago take him at
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  Speaker 1: number ten, no surprise, Indianapolis goes tight end. They take
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  Speaker 1: Tyler Warren out of Penn State at number fourteen. You
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  Speaker 1: have Mason Taylor out of LSU as your thirty fourth
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  Speaker 1: ranked prospect in the top one hundred. He's your third
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  Speaker 1: tight end on the board should he take a fall
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  Speaker 1: to fifty one. Is that something that Denver would take
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  Speaker 1: a look at.
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  Speaker 2: Certainly, I know I could. I think my most likely
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  Speaker 2: scenario in my mind tonight, if you ask me to
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  Speaker 2: predict it would be running back tight end somewhere on
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  Speaker 2: those two things, okay, because again that's gonna be sort
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  Speaker 2: of the power of the board at that point and receiver,
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  Speaker 2: of course, But I would caution people that Sean Payton
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  Speaker 2: warned everyone before the draft when he said he liked
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  Speaker 2: their wide receiver room a lot more than everybody else did.
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  Speaker 2: So I don't think receiver is on their mind as
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  Speaker 2: much as it is everybody else is. So I think
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  Speaker 2: running back, tight end are the top two things they
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  Speaker 2: hope for to come away with today. Real quick.
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  Speaker 3: Just a point, just a little housekeeping note here. You
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  Speaker 3: talked about how quickly the Broncos decided to make this pick.
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  Speaker 3: Why then did the clock run so long? What happens?
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  Speaker 3: Were they taking other calls just to make sure and
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  Speaker 3: offered in knock their socks off? But if they know
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  Speaker 3: so soon early, which I'm sure a lot of teams do,
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  Speaker 3: why then do they let the clock run? Or is
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  Speaker 3: that even just a TV thing?
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  Speaker 2: It's a little of both. And you're gonna let the
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  Speaker 2: clock run in case somebody calls you you don't want
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  Speaker 2: to make the pick. So the legendary draft story always
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  Speaker 2: that rings and any any people in the league who
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  Speaker 2: have any sense of history, Uh, the eighty three they
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  Speaker 2: fabled eighty three draft, Ernie A. Corsi didn't wait one
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  Speaker 2: minute and he turned in the l Way pick for
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  Speaker 2: Baltimore at number one without taking a single call. And
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  Speaker 2: I think that's in your draft historians and your your
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  Speaker 2: people who have been around the league, that that's something
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  Speaker 2: they always fear, is that you you turned the card in,
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  Speaker 2: and the offer that would have rocked you never made
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  Speaker 2: it to your ear.
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  Speaker 1: So Ernie of Corsi, the Nico Harrison of his day,
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  Speaker 1: is what is telling us right there.
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  Speaker 2: Only only because his owner made him and he decided
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  Speaker 2: he was he was going to show his owner.
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  Speaker 1: I'll show you, Jeff Legwald, can I make a humble request?
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  Speaker 1: Can you hang through the break and chat with us
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  Speaker 1: for a few more minutes before round two gets underway?
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  Speaker 2: Sure?
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  Speaker 1: Good?
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  Speaker 3: He is your arm enjoying this? Yeah, to keep showing
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  Speaker 3: us the Broncos thing. We know you cant just your
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  Speaker 3: own position. Hey, can you show us the building that's up?
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  Speaker 3: We're swing around a little bit. What's the construction doing?
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  Speaker 2: You can't really see it? That's uh wall.
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  Speaker 3: We don't have to walk to spin around.
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  Speaker 2: We're okay. Oh, I got.
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  Speaker 1: And stuff that you sucks?
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  Speaker 3: Never sorry, you.
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  Speaker 2: Got some gers, you got some girders and whatnot.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Jeff, you know I have.
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  Speaker 2: A powerful arm. I could do many segments.
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  Speaker 1: Hang out for a minute. Uh, because we gotta we
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  Speaker 1: got we gotta find out what's happening with Shador Sanders. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: We need your insight on this, what you are hearing
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  Speaker 1: and and just where he could be going tonight. We'll
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  Speaker 1: do that with Jeff Legwall coming up here on the
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  Speaker 1: other side. Draft conversation with Leggyekrikman and Lindahl. We're rolling
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a Scott right on, Kreigman and Lyndall All
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  Speaker 1: right back with Jeff Legwald here on a Friday afternoon.
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  Speaker 1: Round one of the draft is in the books, Travis
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  Speaker 1: Hunter ends up in Jacksonville, Ley before we get to Shador.
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  Speaker 1: What was your reaction when Liam Cohen and when the
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  Speaker 1: folks in Jacksonville were talking about their plan for Travis
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  Speaker 1: Hunter of using him primarily primarily offensively at at the
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  Speaker 1: start and working him in defensively. Do you think that
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  Speaker 1: can work.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure they'll put together something that can work. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's just most of the people I've talked to have
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  Speaker 2: said it's easier and for him and probably better for
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  Speaker 2: him long term to go the other way. But no shot.
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  Speaker 2: The head coach is the you know, offensive roots. Yeah
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  Speaker 2: uh and and you know, I would think that's the
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  Speaker 2: way he was leaning, you know, when they make the
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  Speaker 2: trade so they can get him. I think that's what
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  Speaker 2: they're thinking all along, is he's he's an offensive weapon,
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  Speaker 2: and they they'll figure out. But I think it's much
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  Speaker 2: harder to practice and get assignment sound as a as
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  Speaker 2: a nickel corner or a fill in corner. I think
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  Speaker 2: it makes him largely predictable on defense because they probably
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  Speaker 2: have to put him at the outside spot only for
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  Speaker 2: a while, and because the nickel requires so much study
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  Speaker 2: and other things. But who knows. I mean, he's such
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  Speaker 2: a rare player. He may do rare things going this
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  Speaker 2: way as well.
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  Speaker 1: Jeff Lakewell joining us from outside the Broncos facility. Round
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  Speaker 1: two starting up in about thirteen minutes from now. LEGI
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  Speaker 1: Shidor Sanders is still on the board. Why was he
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  Speaker 1: not drafted in the first round?
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  Speaker 2: Well, date, you know, I know I've talked with you guys.
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  Speaker 2: I don't consider this a slide. I consider him to
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  Speaker 2: be in the area where he was graded by most
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  Speaker 2: teams I've talked to. I think the first round discussion
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  Speaker 2: was largely a media discussion, frankly, and I did I'm
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  Speaker 2: in the media.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, Dad literally tweeted he was going to get
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  Speaker 1: drafted in the top five.
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  Speaker 2: Well, apparently his sources are not really good in the league,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, welcome to my world, coach, you know,
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: get some sources. No, I mean, I think, you know,
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: I think that's if you're somebody's dad, that's what you
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: should say. If you're somebody's coach, that's what you should say.
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  Speaker 2: That's what you want, it's what you're hoping for. But
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: I I can just give you my own personal experiences.
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  Speaker 2: I've talked to no one in the pre draft process
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  Speaker 2: that mentioned to me the possibility that he was a
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: top five quarterback. So I just I guess I've not
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: seen or I've been sort of this this draft. It's
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: just been very odd as someone who's done the draft
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: thing for a while, and that the difference between what
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: I was hearing from football people and what I was
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: seeing in public on a lot of players was vastly different.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: And I think it's just one of those years, all right.
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: I want to get back to I want to get
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  Speaker 3: back to Shador in his second here, Leggy. But I
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: got to ask you because Nate and I were talking
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: about this, and you're the only guy who could ask.
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  Speaker 3: Do you think Sean Payton screws with some of his
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: guys in that meat? Do you think he messes with
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: helping like you know, oh yeah, we love our Omari
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: and hand. Oh yeah, we're trying to move up. It
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: just feels like he's the guy that would love to
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: see everybody putting this stuff out there so he could laugh.
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: And then I know he commented last night that some
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: of the stuff was so ridiculous he couldn't believe it.
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: Do you think he loves to watch the world burn
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  Speaker 3: a little bit?
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  Speaker 2: They all do, for I tell people all the time,
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: and there's a reason we call it a draft because
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: you will be mocked if you do one long enough.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: You know, if someone in the league hasn't made funny
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: to you at some point, you have not covered the draft.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: I guess that's how it all right.
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: Is today the day for Shador because you know, there's
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: a lot of there's a lot of speculation that maybe
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: it isn't.
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  Speaker 2: I have a hard time that the deepest anyone ever,
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: you know, any scout personnel guy or coach. Uh, you know,
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: it doesn't mean it was where he was on the
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: team's board. It just means their personal opinion. Uh. The
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: biggest one I heard all along was was in the sixties.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: So I would think today is in staatement.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: Why do you think the Giants preferred Jackson Dart to
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: Shador Sanders.
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  Speaker 2: No, they did extensive work on all of them that
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: they met with with both of them individually, they did everything.
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  Speaker 2: I think they just came away for the more comfortable
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: feeling after meeting with both in person. I think the
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: Giants may be one of the teams where uh the
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: interview with Shador didn't go as well as as expected
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: for the team. And again it's just it's a comfort level.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: It's it's you know, sometimes it's basic. Teams have frameworks.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: You know. Bill Parcells was known for years to have
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: heart and fast rules about how tall and a certain
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: position a taller guy had to be and there were
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: no exceptions. And Shaduur at just over six' one does
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: not fit a lot of quarterback evaluators profile. And it
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: could be something as simple as that. We may never
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: know the real reasons, but I think Dart is a
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: much bigger reach than Shador Sanders at that spot.
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: All right, we'll wrap it up so you can get inside.
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: It looks like everyone's assembling your best value left on
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: the board, because if he was, like, we didn't get
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: that typical overdraft going last night as much, did we?
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: No?
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: Uh, you know, I think one of my best values
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: would be a corner and Will Johnson. I don't know
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: my list in front.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: Of me, the safety South Carolina. You ad, I'm fifteen
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: and he's still on the board.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: But you know, again, defensive players. You know, I'm just
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: stacking the grades, and it's I think teams sometimes lean
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: the way the public does because they have owners. They
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: have team owners who want to sell pickets. They lean offense.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: So a lot of times my best available guys are
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: defensive players.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: Luther Burned the third by the way Legwald had him
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: in twenty three wide receiver out of Missouri. He is
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: also still available.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: He was in the consideration here because he's the closest
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: thing on Marcus Colston on this draft board and very
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: similar players. He did get a look. He did get
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: a look for these guys, but he wasn't rated anywhere
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: close to mister Barron.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: So how about that? So the Broncos take leg Wald's
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: number eight at number twenty. The Cowboys take Legwald's number
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: twenty two at twelve, that being the guard Tyler Booker
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: out of Alabama. So shout out to George and Sean Payton,
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: well done getting the value, Jeff Legwald. Everybody ESPN catches
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: stuff tonight, Leggy, excellent work man, Thank you.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: I appreciate you. Guys. Hey, somewhere Mike Shanahan's had exploded
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: because three guards went in the first rout.
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you gotta call him up. Do you text him?
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: You said him? Yeah, you need to just say this.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: What do you think of those three guards in the
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: first round there? If he used emoji's, they would all
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: be the customers.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: Jeff Legwald brought to you by the International Brotherhood of
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: Electrical Workers ib W Local sixty eight. You start with
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: the job, you end with a career.