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The Twot Seat: SHEP ROSE (Southern Charm) · Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge

• 0:02
  Speaker 1: Two Teas in a Pod which Teddy Mellencamp and camera judge.
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  Speaker 2: Hi, guys, welcome to another episode of to Teas and
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  Speaker 2: a Pod with myself, Teddy Mellencam band.
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  Speaker 1: And Tama Judge. Today we have a very special guest.
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  Speaker 2: Very special guest, high school buddy my no like from
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  Speaker 2: fourth grade on, even though you said he was my age,
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  Speaker 2: which was a real dick move because he's two years older.
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  Speaker 2: But we have Shepherd Rose. Shep is fresh from his
• 0:34
  Speaker 2: spiritual journey in Costa Rica and continues to work on
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  Speaker 2: his inner piece and is determined to make real growth.
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  Speaker 2: The newfound perspective has given Shep an open heart and
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  Speaker 2: an eternal bachelor has fallen head over heels for new
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  Speaker 2: flame former Ms Bahamas. But we have to dig into
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  Speaker 2: this because I heard that that maybe this bar I'm
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  Speaker 2: so I think this by I was not up to date. Yep,
• 1:03
  Speaker 2: let's bring him in. Hey, yep, I hate for you
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  Speaker 2: to like sit up straight or like look like you
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  Speaker 2: gave two ships about.
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  Speaker 3: Me, Like I don't like you're the one that switched
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  Speaker 3: the top or I guess I switched the times too.
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  Speaker 3: It's been a hectic week.
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  Speaker 2: Sorry, I'm nesting right now. So I'm all over the place.
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  Speaker 2: So it's a little bit of a ship storm around here.
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  Speaker 1: Has no idea what that means.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because he's never kept a relationship for more than
• 1:33
  Speaker 2: a year out of the game two and a half.
• 1:35
  Speaker 2: But how many times did you cheat on her?
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  Speaker 3: What does that have to do with anything?
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  Speaker 2: She knows?
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  Speaker 3: Of four who said that?
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  Speaker 2: Taylor?
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  Speaker 1: Oh well, isn't that like so to you know?
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  Speaker 3: She should know because I mean my phone was gone
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  Speaker 3: through several times. Let's just put it that way.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god.
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  Speaker 2: Well, we'll start on more positive things about other people
• 2:02
  Speaker 2: and then dig into you.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's a liar.
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  Speaker 2: I love Craig, And if I had to pick somebody
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  Speaker 2: that I would be interested in from your show, it
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  Speaker 2: would be Craig.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean Teddy. I don't see you guys clicking.
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  Speaker 3: I'm kidding. Oh, he he's just he's I mean, what
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  Speaker 3: what how we all fell in love with Craig or
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  Speaker 3: you know, the audience was his fallibility and his like silliness,
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  Speaker 3: and he'd laugh at himself and and it's all just
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  Speaker 3: it's so it's so miniscule. It's like a tiny little dumb,
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  Speaker 3: pointless stretches of the truth sometimes, you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 3: And he's gotten better. But yeah, I mean it's not
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  Speaker 3: it's not like worth having a tribunal over who do you.
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  Speaker 2: Think lies more, Craig or Austin.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, Austin doesn't tell anybody anything, so.
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  Speaker 2: Lying just withholding the truth truth sometimes.
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  Speaker 3: But he's very close to the vest. But he wants
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  Speaker 3: to hear what you have to say, that's for sure.
• 3:08
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he's a big gossiper. You know. Even his
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  Speaker 3: his girlfriends were like, he's like like a girl sitting
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  Speaker 3: in a hair salon. If you give him the chance.
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  Speaker 2: I like him.
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  Speaker 1: Can you shed some light? Teddy said that you guys
• 3:22
  Speaker 1: went to school together.
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  Speaker 2: Hm, thanks, we hooked up?
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  Speaker 3: Can you? I did not.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not saying that. Can you just tell us a
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  Speaker 1: little bit about.
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  Speaker 3: Kiss wants Teddy? Oh, okay, we definitely do.
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  Speaker 2: Further than you were always crying to me about Jenny Sonfield.
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  Speaker 2: We were never or Julienne or Julianne Weissak And then
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  Speaker 2: you were, but you were a nice guy. Then you
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  Speaker 2: weren't a player.
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  Speaker 3: Then no I was. I wasn't. I did not have
• 3:48
  Speaker 3: a whole lot of confidence in the female world. I
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  Speaker 3: mean I was just like, I was really into sports, remember,
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  Speaker 3: Like I didn't care about holding hands or kissing and stuff.
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  Speaker 3: I just wanted to play basketball.
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  Speaker 1: I was Teddy back then. Do you remember she.
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  Speaker 3: Was over confident?
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  Speaker 1: Oh so nothing's changed.
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  Speaker 3: No, I'm kidding. I mean she was a year younger,
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  Speaker 3: but you know, years younger.
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  Speaker 1: Wait a minute, chef, Hold are you forty four five?
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  Speaker 1: Oh you're forty five? Okay, you were right. She said
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  Speaker 1: you were two years older, and I said.
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  Speaker 2: I think yes, I was in ninth grade when he
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  Speaker 2: was in eleventh grade. Well you were, you were staying
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  Speaker 2: over confident.
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  Speaker 1: But this is how Teddy, weren't you held back?
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  Speaker 2: No, I barely graduated. I took an ECCE, never went
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  Speaker 2: to college.
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  Speaker 3: Teddy, Teddy was great. But like that's the thing, like
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  Speaker 3: a year or even especially two years in high school
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  Speaker 3: seems like a you know, a giant gap, right, And
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  Speaker 3: you were definitely having fun and Teddy, you know, Teddy
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  Speaker 3: had that amazing house and pretty loose rules over at
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  Speaker 3: that house, and an amazing pools on the beach, and
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  Speaker 3: and we all lived in generally the same area, so
• 5:02
  Speaker 3: we just ride our bikes over to each other's house.
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  Speaker 3: And have all time.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but Shep had the thing I remember the most
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  Speaker 2: about Shep is all year long. He him and his
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  Speaker 2: brother Whittaker and Katie, like, they would have this Christmas
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  Speaker 2: party and right down the list of people who could come.
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  Speaker 2: Every year we'd all be like, I own of Shep Party.
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  Speaker 3: You were always invited, and you know it.
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  Speaker 2: I know there were subparties. I didn't get invite you,
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  Speaker 2: but I always got to invite it. Cheers.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, there was a Christmas party, whether they you said,
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  Speaker 3: like my dad would play Santa and the younger kids
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  Speaker 3: would come and they'd give them gifts and there was
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  Speaker 3: good food there. Remember there was like awesome barbecue and
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  Speaker 3: dessert and stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Teddy, did your dad allow you to have parties at
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  Speaker 1: the house?
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely not. No, I lived with my mom.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, but remember that one time Teddy called me.
• 6:00
  Speaker 3: It was like my dad's in town and he wants
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  Speaker 3: to play football on the beach, gather up some guys.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, okay, I'll be right there.
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  Speaker 4: Did you do it?
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  Speaker 3: I think so? Yeah, absolutely. And then there's that time
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  Speaker 3: where we all the we were in pe class sitting
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  Speaker 3: in the bleach and remember Teddy sid Finkley or the
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  Speaker 3: pe teacher who was so ridiculous. He's like he hated everybody.
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  Speaker 3: And then your your your dad's uh. Then new wife
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  Speaker 3: and Lane walked into the gym and down the hall.
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  Speaker 3: I mean the guys were like, all.
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  Speaker 2: Of y'all took a ship like she was a supermodel.
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  Speaker 2: Nineteen year old supermodel walks in and all my guy
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  Speaker 2: friends are like, good.
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  Speaker 3: Nobody had set foot in the hill Ned Prep gym.
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  Speaker 5: Quite like, oh my god, well I heard, we heard
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  Speaker 5: you broke up with your girlfriends Sanna.
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  Speaker 3: No, no, no, it wasn't like that. What.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Before we get into the breakup, I need to
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  Speaker 2: talk about the awkward scene. I never have seen you
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  Speaker 2: like on the phone, seeming so like.
• 7:16
  Speaker 1: Wanning Kitty, You're giddy.
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  Speaker 2: You were giddy, but you also like were like I'll come,
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  Speaker 2: like if you want me to come, like you were falling.
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  Speaker 1: Hard for her.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it was over. Let's call it six months.
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  Speaker 3: She came to Charleston first, and then and then I
• 7:35
  Speaker 3: had a house party in Hilton had and she and
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  Speaker 3: I brought her to that and we had just fun
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  Speaker 3: on fun and just really like you know, early passionate
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  Speaker 3: and just like laughing and had lots to talk about
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  Speaker 3: and and then we then I went down to the
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  Speaker 3: Bahamas to see her, met her mom and her sister
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  Speaker 3: and her grandma who's a huge Bravo fan. She was
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  Speaker 3: so so sweet and we went out. We had drinks
• 8:02
  Speaker 3: at the Four Seasons and down in Nassau. I was
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  Speaker 3: lovely and uh yeah. And then she came up to
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  Speaker 3: the Mountain House in Lynnville and then we took a
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  Speaker 3: little break because of something that happened.
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  Speaker 2: Did you know what did you do?
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  Speaker 3: I didn't do anything. No, no, no, I'll tell you exactly.
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  Speaker 3: So I bought her her flight to Hilton Head and
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  Speaker 3: and Charleston the first two trips, and I was like
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  Speaker 3: happy to do it. Right. Then I went down to
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  Speaker 3: Nassau and she was very generous. She got me a
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  Speaker 3: hotel room of the Baham r and we boy, we
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  Speaker 3: had fun. Bahamas was amazing, and uh, I mean you know,
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  Speaker 3: we we had so much fun. And then I was
• 8:45
  Speaker 3: like coming to Lynnville and bring a friend because my
• 8:48
  Speaker 3: parents are going to be in Spain and I've got
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  Speaker 3: the whole house. And so she invited her very nice
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  Speaker 3: gay friend Chris, and I go, okay, guys, here's the deal.
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  Speaker 3: Fly into show. I'm gonna send a car down to
• 9:01
  Speaker 3: get you. It's a two hour four hour round trip.
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  Speaker 3: Two hours there, two hours back, so it doesn't make
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  Speaker 3: sense for me to drive down and pick you up. Okay, okay,
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  Speaker 3: And the friend was like, I got my flight. I
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  Speaker 3: was like awesome. I was like seeing I get on
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  Speaker 3: that flight, and she was like, I will, I will.
• 9:16
  Speaker 3: I was like, cause y'all need to ride at the
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  Speaker 3: same time, and so excited. And then the day before
• 9:23
  Speaker 3: she slated the land, she was like, hey, I've been
• 9:26
  Speaker 3: really busy. Will you just get my flights? And I
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  Speaker 3: was just like I said yeah, okay, and I bottled
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  Speaker 3: it up. And then after the weekend I said something
• 9:36
  Speaker 3: to her. You know, we were, you know, brushing our
• 9:39
  Speaker 3: teeth in the morning, and I was like.
• 9:40
  Speaker 2: Hey, I got how shitty of a way? Did you
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  Speaker 2: say it to her?
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  Speaker 3: No? No, no, I said, I really need to get this
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  Speaker 3: off my chest. By the way, great job, great time
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  Speaker 3: this weekend, but like I needed to say this, And
• 9:51
  Speaker 3: I was like, I just don't appreciate the way that
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  Speaker 3: was handled. And you know, I made a lot of
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  Speaker 3: plans and I took care of everything, but like you
• 10:01
  Speaker 3: don't have to meet me even halfway. Just meet me
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  Speaker 3: somewhere in the middle or near the in the Bell
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  Speaker 3: curve somewhere, because I'm not a desperate man who's flying
• 10:11
  Speaker 3: girls around. And and I was like, I'm really kind
• 10:14
  Speaker 3: of I bragged to my family and friends how successful
• 10:17
  Speaker 3: and entrepreneurial you are.
• 10:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah. You even Jade and Taylor talking about how successful
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  Speaker 2: she was comparatively speaking, which I did.
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  Speaker 3: Not, like, I know, I didn't mean to say it
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  Speaker 3: that way. Let's put it that way, you know, I
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  Speaker 3: just didn't. You know how it is when you're that
• 10:34
  Speaker 3: camera's on in the interview room and you're just like, oh,
• 10:37
  Speaker 3: let me kind of be provocative. Yeah, it's not.
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  Speaker 1: Very No, No, I don't.
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  Speaker 2: Would never know such a thing because she's an angel.
• 10:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, people off anyway. So so I did say
• 10:53
  Speaker 3: so I said that, and she was indignant. She was
• 10:55
  Speaker 3: like where I come from, you know, the man takes
• 10:57
  Speaker 3: care of everything. I was like, would you how about
• 11:00
  Speaker 3: the young mentor young girls you might mentor in them,
• 11:02
  Speaker 3: or would you tell them that, hey, don't worry about it.
• 11:05
  Speaker 3: Man takes care of everything. That's a bad thing to
• 11:07
  Speaker 3: think and to practice. Frankly, so anyhow, I was like,
• 11:12
  Speaker 3: maybe we should take a step back, and she was like, yeah, okay.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, you know, I have nothing but wonderful
• 11:17
  Speaker 3: memories and I was really into you. And we did
• 11:20
  Speaker 3: and then she sent me a text a month later
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  Speaker 3: with us in Lynville, all dressed up and hugging each
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  Speaker 3: other in front of the house, and she was like,
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  Speaker 3: I don't feel this strongly about people very often, and
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  Speaker 3: I think we can make this work. And I was like,
• 11:36
  Speaker 3: oh my god. I was like so. I was like,
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  Speaker 3: that's so sweet because I felt the same way, you know.
• 11:41
  Speaker 2: So you're right together.
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  Speaker 3: And then we got back together. We went out west.
• 11:45
  Speaker 2: I don't feel any chemistry with you, guys.
• 11:47
  Speaker 1: I don't think we've seen enough to determine what broke
• 11:50
  Speaker 1: you guys up. Or is it on the show.
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  Speaker 2: It's on the show.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, look as painful as it was, like, it's compelling,
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  Speaker 3: so y'all please watch it. I have I have like
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  Speaker 3: no anxiety about how I handled things at all.
• 12:05
  Speaker 1: I was you're proud of yourself.
• 12:07
  Speaker 3: Oh, I don't know about that. I was crestfalling, you know,
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  Speaker 3: and it was happening in real time.
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  Speaker 2: You can't figs with us chef. We don't know what
• 12:15
  Speaker 2: you're saying on camera.
• 12:16
  Speaker 3: On camera, it happened, which is rare. But like you know,
• 12:20
  Speaker 3: I told I tell anybody that I start dating, like
• 12:22
  Speaker 3: this is what I do. It's for like three four
• 12:23
  Speaker 3: months a year. If you don't want in you, you know,
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  Speaker 3: I can't work with that because I'm not gonna be
• 12:30
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to have a secret girlfriend.
• 12:32
  Speaker 1: What are you doing when you're not.
• 12:33
  Speaker 3: Filming going around the world Chase travel? Yeah?
• 12:38
  Speaker 1: Is this show? Is the show? Your your main is
• 12:41
  Speaker 1: the show? Your main job? Or do you have a
• 12:43
  Speaker 1: job outside of Bravo?
• 12:46
  Speaker 3: I don't have a job. You think i'd have a boss? Crazy?
• 12:49
  Speaker 1: Bravo is your boss.
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  Speaker 3: I invest in things and different. I've got a lot
• 12:54
  Speaker 3: of coals in the fire. I mean, Teddy knows this.
• 12:56
  Speaker 3: I think about me like, I don't need much. You know,
• 13:00
  Speaker 3: I don't need a giant house, and nor do I
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  Speaker 3: really want one. I just want to have the freedom
• 13:05
  Speaker 3: to do the things that I love. And then after
• 13:07
  Speaker 3: I after I did ayahuasca.
• 13:09
  Speaker 1: Oh, we need to talk about that.
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  Speaker 3: I'm writing a book about it. I've already written thirty
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  Speaker 3: two thousand words.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, how many pages is that?
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  Speaker 3: One? And fifty. So the name of it teddy like
• 13:22
  Speaker 3: I was. I went there to sort of deal with
• 13:24
  Speaker 3: my dabbling in excess for oh so many years.
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  Speaker 2: And yeah, you're pretty hammered.
• 13:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the whole time I was hammered. Correct. So anyhow,
• 13:37
  Speaker 3: thanks for the champagne. Just to add to it, I'm
• 13:39
  Speaker 3: just kidding.
• 13:40
  Speaker 2: Now you brought a bottle of whiskey or something.
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  Speaker 3: Jesus Christ.
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  Speaker 2: Anyhow, So I went wore a shirt that had whiskey
• 13:51
  Speaker 2: pouring into a cup.
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  Speaker 3: Right right. Yeah, it was a bad, bad version of myself.
• 13:58
  Speaker 3: I got vegas. But no, it was more than that.
• 14:01
  Speaker 3: It was me coming to the realization that I can't
• 14:04
  Speaker 3: do things the way that I've done them for so long.
• 14:07
  Speaker 3: My body and my mind physiologically was just like no, no, no, no, no,
• 14:12
  Speaker 3: You're going to black out and make a fool out
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  Speaker 3: of yourself and you're gonna be embarrassing. It's not funny anymore.
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  Speaker 3: It used to be funny when my friends would like
• 14:19
  Speaker 3: compare notes and be like, oh my god, what what
• 14:22
  Speaker 3: you know? But now it's just like, dude, not funny.
• 14:25
  Speaker 3: So that I got that.
• 14:26
  Speaker 2: Makes it a little hard.
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: Are you saying you're sober?
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  Speaker 3: No?
• 14:31
  Speaker 2: No, he's already drinking on the show this season.
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: I know, but that's year.
• 14:36
  Speaker 3: You know, try no.
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: Hard alcohol, is that the rule? Try to try to
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: So I was living Keith Richard, I love you compare
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: yourself to a full blown rock star.
• 14:48
  Speaker 3: I thought I was. I thought it was a rock star.
• 14:50
  Speaker 3: I mean, and Taylor used to say that to me.
• 14:54
  Speaker 3: She's like, you can think you're a rock star. I
• 14:56
  Speaker 3: was like, well, I got a lot of free time
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  Speaker 3: and a pocket full of cash. Yeah, maybe I do.
• 15:03
  Speaker 3: I get that. And you know, everybody wants to hang out,
• 15:07
  Speaker 3: everybody wants to buy shots, and then you know, one
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: thing leads to another, so and then you know, got
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: you know, I don't need to get into that, but anyhow,
• 15:18
  Speaker 3: I Ahuaska. Yeah, And so they said you take two cups,
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: two little shot glasses, and they said we want you
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: to do that. After that, the bar is open, so
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: to speak. And so I had the amazing vision, Tenny
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: I after two or three cats, after three cups, I
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: saw an amusement park ride where the swings hang down
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  Speaker 3: and then it spins around and the swings fly out
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  Speaker 3: and everybody's laughing. Do you know what I'm talking about? Yes, Okay, Well,
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  Speaker 3: everybody I knew and loved, we're in the swings, laughing
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  Speaker 3: and carrying on, and I look closer and I was
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: the poll and so I had to be sturdy. I
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: had to be reliable or my amusement park life would
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: be shattered and everyone would get hurt. And so that
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: was like, I was like, how you know, it was
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  Speaker 3: like on and off, Like you go into a deep
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  Speaker 3: sort of like I don't know, trance and you're it's
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: like your webs are being untangled all the inside of
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  Speaker 3: you and you're like, ah, I mean it's crazy. And
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: then then you come out of it and you're like
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: and you sort of walk around and then maybe you
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: take another cup. So the fourth after my fourth cup,
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: when I'm going there to deal.
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: With Xcess, yeah, after I took more cups than anybody
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  Speaker 2: else if people did.
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: More, but anyhow, so I go back to my mattress
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: and I have my journal.
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  Speaker 2: Mattress.
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: You have a mattress, a pillow, a blanket, and a
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: barf bucket. Yeah. I threw up, not as much as
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: a lot of other people around me, though. So I
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  Speaker 3: go back to and I write in my journal because
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: I knew after the fourth Cup, Like I was about
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  Speaker 3: a trip balls and I wrote in my journal, why
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: must I all licked the jar like Winnie the Pew
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: with a honeypot on his head? And that's kind of
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: who what I was going there to deal with and
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: to confront.
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: Absolutely not, that's what what is with two different Bravo
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: celebrity men going to do their self help with ayahuasca?
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: Because I realize Jesse Lally from the Valley did the
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: same thing.
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: Good for him, good for him?
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: Do you think it made you better? Anyways?
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: It made me better? And what it did, I mean,
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: I could go into it, but you'll have to read
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: the book. But one thing, one huge takeaway. There was
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: so many people there with so much trauma in their
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: lives and loss and pain and abuse, and they were
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: very open and honest about it. And I heard about it,
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: and you know, you're like, oh my god. Like one
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: woman the first night was screaming on her. They moved
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: her outside and they the staff was amazing. They were like, breede,
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: settled down, and then she started laughing maniacally. I was
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: like whoa. And then the next day I found her
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: and I was like, hey, are you okay? She's like
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: I'm better than okay. I was like, oh good good.
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: I was like, do you want to share? And she said, yeah.
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: My mother committed suicide when I was twelve years old,
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: and I was with her last night and we got
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: to the root of a lot of things. I know,
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: I get goosebumps even times, and so that was so
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: my huge takeaway one of Teddy was how lucky I've been,
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: and how much gratitude I should feel, and how much
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: empathy I should give to everyone around me at any
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: particular time, anyone walking down the street, because there is
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: a shit ton of trauma in the world, and Hiahuascar
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: really helps with that. Honestly, you know, I went there
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: because I was getting wasted, right, There's people going there
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: for real, real deep seated stuff. I had grown men
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: crying in my arms at breakfast about how terrible they're
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: fathers were and things like that. So really really eye
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: opening and really and so, but it's not a magic pill.
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: I came back and did some stupid shit. It reverted
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: back to my old ways, and I was but I
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: was hard on myself. I knew it was wrong, Like, no, no,
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: we can't do that.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: Would you do it again?
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: Absolutely?
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: What stupid things did you do?
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: Just drinking? You know? I was out in Nashville and
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: just got hammer time and don't know how I got
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: back to the hotel. And then this girl who I knew,
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: was like, Chap, what the are you doing? You know?
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: And I was like, oh no, she's I was worried
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: about you because I was worried about you getting home safely. Essentially,
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: you were just out there.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: What about this how you said? And you're confessional that
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: Taylor's family all wants you to be with her. No,
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: that was while ago, and was it's like now jout.
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: On social media.
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: I don't care about it. I didn't read what she said.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: But would you like me to tell you I memori.
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: No, it's none of my business. When everybody else says,
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: are you still.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: In love with her? No, don't bullshit me, he paused,
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: I'm not.
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: I just care about her deeply, you know, and worry
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: about her. But look, I mean before I went did Ayahuasca,
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: I had lunch with her mom and her sister at
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: a restaurant in Mount Pleasant and they were so supportive.
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: I was really close with them. We and uh no,
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: I don't read their mind.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: But the fact do you consider yourself friends with Taylor?
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: No? I mean that's not my choice, not at all.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: Why did you what's the chick's name that had sex
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: with you and Gaston?
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: Sally?
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: Sally?
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: I didn't know that we needed to see her. I
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: gotta tell you, Okay, are we going to Yeah?
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: We are?
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: We are?
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: And I mean, look, you know if you I raised
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: a lot of money for the hurricanes in western North
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: Carolina by selling shirts, so I'm very happy proud of
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: and I was messaging with her mom and dad about
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: where what charities I should send it to in the
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: Ashville area.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: So Sally's or tailor Taylor.
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: They connected me to these great charities and people that
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: they know and trust. So does that mean they want
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: to get back together? Absolutely not. That's absurd. Was that?
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: H Did I think that a year and a half ago? Yeah?
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: I did a year and a half ago, But you know,
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: things change.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: Is ghost Dawn a cheater? Because that's what Sally's making
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: him out to be.
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: I don't know him. I don't know him. He doesn't
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: want to know me. I know that he's not pleased
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: about my existence.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: Are they still together together?
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: Right? I guess? So? Yeah, Yeah, we.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: Have the fan questions asking do you still speak to Thomas, Catherine,
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: Chelsea or Cam.
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: I talked to Cam, and I love Chill See to death.
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: She just had a kid, camps sort of like a hermit. Honestly,
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: I just don't think she goes out a lot.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: But how many kids does she have? Now?
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: One? And she and I were supposed to go to
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: the South Carolina Bigfoot Festival because we both are obsessed
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: with Bigfoot, and I ended up Whitney and I ended
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: up going. We brought cameras. It's gonna be hilarious.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: Whitney is giving me a little bit of the eck
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: the way he said that to Molly about the cup
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: about eating.
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you were.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: Nice to her in that moment, but like that's kind
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: of is Whitney trying to be funny when he does
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: that stuff.
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: That's who Whitney is. He's absolutely inappropriate at all times.
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: Like I've seen him just I'm like, did you just
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: say that? Like he has no filter? And or he
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: you know, and he just and he and Molly have
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: a long history.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: And does Whitney thinks that like his ship doesn't stink,
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: Like I can't even imagine out the supermodel girl.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: Are you shaking your leg?
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you're always shaking your leg always, always Why burning cows?
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: You have nervous energy all the time, burning cows.
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: Uh, I can't stop. My My whole mom's side of
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: the family shakes their leg. My uncle, my grandfather did, yeah.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: Adhd, my mom does too. My brother drives me crazy,
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: the tapping, tapping on things or shaking. I'm like, stop, yeah.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: It's it's yeah.
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: She gets really upset if she hears me chew.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: Oh I can't. I got that thing. Or I don't
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: want to hear anybody chewing or slurping, or.
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: Then don't do ayahuasca because you have to hear them. Barf.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: Oh, so you're so out of it. I don't think
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: you even really even acknowledge that.
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was fascinating. If you have any sort of
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: sort of things you want to be introspective about, I
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: would I'd recommend looking into it. I'm sure in La
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: you can do it. Like there's tons of people.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: And there's absolutely no way I could do ayahuasca. I
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: do not like to feel out of control. I like
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: to throw up.
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: And you used to do mushrooms with us, Teddy all
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: the time.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: You guys could do the mushroom tea. I never did it.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: Only one time. I did a water bowl and I
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: threw up everywhere and that was at the end of it.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: I did mushrooms once in Vegas. Is the worst experience
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: of my life.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not a drug goal.
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: And we talked about who you hooked up with out
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: of our out of our friend group.
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: Yes, can we play it, yes, Scott yes, Cayley, yes,
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: if you have to think about it.
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: Car Mines what car Well, we know that you did
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: with with Constable that summer. You had a thing for him.
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: He remember my friend he is?
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: What is with these names?
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: Was he long hair?
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: No? He was like a mountain man.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: He was like, uh, I like Constable. No, but you're
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: missing the main one.
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: Weird seraate Nick Rose? Nick Rose, Yeah, he was a
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: popular guy.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: Welcome to my childhood.
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was pretty damn good. So here's my I
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: had this wonderful epiphany, Teddy. On the last night it was.
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: It was I was on Ayhuasca and I had just
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: visions of my childhood, my mom making pancakes, me and
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: Whittaker hiding behind the couch while my sister got picked
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: up for her first prom. My dad and my brother
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: and I driving to t ball practice, me and Carmen's
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: riding our bikes through Palmetto Dunes to the mall and
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: and just all this beautiful stuff. And I just started bawling,
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: crying because how beautiful our childhoods were. You know, it
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: was like a dream, it really was.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: Don't you think, well, you could have that same dream
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: if you are you going to settle down and get
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: married and have kids. I want a job with little Craig.
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: I want to.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: I think, Craig is you can just start dating Teddy,
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: bring her on over to Southern charm and she's already
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: got built built in family.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: After hearing how shep is in bed, I'm good.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, do you want to clear that up?
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: Who said that?
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: Gu's who said that? Sour grapes? I mean, that's what,
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: you know what, that's what that's funny because I was like, okay,
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: first of all, tacky as hell, Like I would never
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: comment on anybody in bed on national television. That's just
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: like beyond the pale. But that's how I was, you know,
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: that's how I am. My. I mean, my mom and
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: dad would never allow they would they would faint if
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: I started talking that way. But but it reminded me
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: of when Dwayne Wade and some of these NBA guys
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: divorced their first wives. They like totally tried to poison
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: the water for the next They were like, yeah, he's
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: got herpes. Oh my god, remember all that? Yeah, exactly,
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: That's exactly what it was like, because that's ridiculous. And
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: I don't really care what she I mean, she she
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: wanted me to ask her to marry her, so I
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: guess I was doing.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: Here's the thing. I don't mind that. Yes, you're angry
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: and annoyed about the things that she said and done,
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: but you can't angry not angry. What your defensive slightly.
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: Well, you brought it up, but.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah I did bring it up. But my point is
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: there is a part of you that still really cares
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: about her.
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: And I know that one hundred percent. And I care
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: about her family and I used to think about her
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: all the time, like I want all the best for her,
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: I want all these good things to happen to her.
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: And you know, what can I do? How can I
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: help in any way? But I'm I'm sort of an alien.
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: I guess do you think.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: It's because you're so close to her family.
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and her man, Like, when I met her, you know,
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: she had hadn't really been I took her in California
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: for the first time, Mexico for the first time, Europe
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: for the first time. I was like, and I was
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: happy to do it, very happy, because I love being
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: tour guide.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: You loved giving her those experiences.
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I wanted to see her grow and blossom, and
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: I think she still can't.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: You can't say that. You can't say I want to
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: see her growing blossom.
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: Well she did, she did when we when we were together,
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: but I definitely put her through some bullshit. I'm not
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: gonna deny that. And when I look back, especially these days,
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: I literally have like I'm like, oh my god, I
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: can't believe that time where I did this or you know,
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: and I mean I could. There's just like a hundred
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: little things where it was just uncool and bad and
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: and uh just took it for granted her her absolute
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: love and affection for me.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: Are you dating anyone now?
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: No, I can't seem to find anybody.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: You know, ran out of the girls in Charleston.
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you won't. That's not the car. But yeah,
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: I mean I I, Well, the thing with Sienna is
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: that I felt very strongly and I've may be over
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: and that's and I was so surprised five years old,
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: Chep twenty six. I was so shocked that I felt
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: so strongly about someone so soon after after Taylor and
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: I his breakup, because typically she was Miss Bahamas.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: I'm sure I would feel twenty six. He's twenty six
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: from Miss Bahamas and like itching to get on television
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: and be with Shep the Playboy, like you knew what
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: was coming.
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: I liked it. Yeah, not when it comes.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: To how did you even meet her?
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: Girls?
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: Rayah oh oh yeah, yeah, I've scrolled through. Riot doesn't
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: look like a place for me.
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, I'm sort of obsessed with it. I
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: need to relax because.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: It's just like the profile picture.
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: Girls are just so gorgeous on it. I'm like, oh
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: my god.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: Well, you have to go through a process, you have
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: to audition to get in.
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: I was there early. I've had a lot of fun.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: You men just have to have a certain amount of money.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: Women have to look a certain way. Yeah, I mean,
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: I know the quality of people you're going to get
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: from Ryant.
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: I know Matthew Perry was on it when he oh.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah he dated everybody.
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but anyways, yeah, and I just look, you know me, Teddy,
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: give me a little bit of credit. I mean, Sienna,
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: I would not fall for somebody who had didn't have
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: any substance like we. She was a very interesting girl
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: and I really liked talking to her and spending time
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: with her, and we had a lot of very lovely,
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: tender moments. And it was not for nothing. I mean,
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: don't believe everything you see on TV, you know what
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: I mean.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: No, I will give you credit. You're I think you
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: have a good heart, and you're a good person, and
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: you're good at reading people. Just sometimes you know, like us,
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: all you make dumb mistakes.
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: Blinded by the Bahamas. That should be my next book.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: But you still never sent me your last book.
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: So I'll send you both of them.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: All right, Well, we're proud of you ship. We hope
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: that we see things play out through the season. We're
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: enjoying recapping it.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: One last question. Do you think Page and Craig you're
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: going to get married?
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean I think I know that
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: he wanted to, and I think she's like super career oriented.
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: I mean that's sort of that is a tale as
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: old as time, either on the woman or the man's side.
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: So I just don't know enough. And you know, I
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: love Page, but we haven't sat down and had a
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: cup of coffee. I mean, I just I think she's
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: a lot of fun and I would like to banter
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: with her more.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: Frankly, thank you so much.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: We appreciate it.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: We're loving the show. I'm actually going back watching like
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: season one going through. I've been sick for like two weeks.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: I've been like in bed watching season one season two.
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I loved. I did it in Boston recently
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: and they had like six TVs all playing different seasons
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: of our show in the room, and I was like,
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: my head was on a swim. I was like, no way,
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: I remember that. Holy hell, so pretty cool.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: Craig is the one that is like changed the most.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: He was like a little, tiny, skinny little boy. I'm like,
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: I know he was.
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: I mean, he's honest about that. He was like I
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: was addicted to adderall and he wasn't eating.
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: You know, Oh well that'll do it.
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: But he looks great now.
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: That helps you.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: Talk that helps you talk on the show.
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah exactly. I mean that's I love that sort of honesty,
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: and that's what I tried to do, right talking openly
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: in the you know, in the reunion last year and
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: then this season, I like my my Navy seal friend
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: who I did ayahuasca with said, chep vulner Vulnerability is
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: the new masculinity, and I was like, I love that,
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: and that's how that's the sign of confidence. If you
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: if you share your struggle one hundred.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: Percent, we are enjoying you.
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: Love you on the show.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: Thank you much, success, and I can't wait to watch
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: the rest of the season. And thanks for coming on.
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: My pleasure anything for y'all.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: Okay, thanks Chepye, Bye bye,