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I can’t believe they did an episode on Bigfoot D#%€ · Journey to the Fringe

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From the unexplained to the mundane, come join
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us on a journey to the fringe. Hello and welcome!
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two journey to the fringe work you guys need
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to know sometimes it is passion that fuels every
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time pretty much it's passion that fuels this
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podcast but every now and then it's something
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that needs to be covered by this podcast and
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it gets put right front and center yeah for an
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episode that we need to do i told chelsea about
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36 hours ago this is the episode i am doing and
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i'm starting the script and by gosh i got this
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script it is ready to go and i am so excited
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for this But I'm interested to see where this
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is gonna go. I have no idea like I can't even
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guess well I'm gonna start it off Chelsea I was
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reading the book and I came across this quote
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most Bigfoot witnesses if genitalia is knows
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it all report males and reading this I was suddenly
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struck with inspiration Chelsea How have we not
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done cryptid genitals as an episode? I don't
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know how you're even gonna do this as an episode,
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but I'm excited. I am staring at 12 pages of
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script right now. And the second half is gonna
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throw you for a loop that you had no idea. I'm
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already intrigued by your opening quote, because
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most are males, hey? Yep, I'm gonna get into
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some of that too, yes. Before you start, are
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we going to be that podcast that specializes
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in cryptid genitalia? You know what? I don't
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actually think it's out there from what I was
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able to gather in my research for this episode.
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So we actually are likely. And I think this goes
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as far back as our first Mothman episode or Mothperson
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episode that we have really. and interest yeah
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that genitalia is not noticed or talked about
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enough in these things for everything being gendered
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in the freaking cryptid world yeah in the then
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the weird fringe This is incredible. So if you
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see us in the future, it might be with cryptogenitalia
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specialists sprawled under our image. You know
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what? If I ever end up on a documentary, I really
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hope they at least discuss how it's going to
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be in there. But it is likely why we're on there.
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Yeah, I need a name tag with this on it. OK,
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OK. I'm too excited now. I'm gonna add it to
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the list. Now, since the dawn of time, humanity
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has always been talking about strange things
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in genitals. Some of the first art we have dates
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back 42 ,000 years and is dick shaped. And the
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oldest known cave paintings featuring vulva representations
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are from the Chauvet, Pont d 'Arc cave in France
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dating back approximately 40 ,000 years. So of
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course... If we are seeing weird stuff, someone
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has to be seeing their genitals. Yeah. And at
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this point from doing the research, I have to
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call a few people out. The BFRO, Lon Strickler,
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nothing comes back on your webpages when you
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search penis on the page or genitals. And I find
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that just clearly incorrect. You have to ask
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if you're being any sort of good reporter, I
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would think. And did you see? the genitals yeah
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it has to be something that's talked about and
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it clearly is at some point but it's so brief
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and such a taboo topic that it gets skipped over
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a lot and even hammerson peters your research
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here is lacking i can't tell you at this point
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but there's glaring omissions in this realm on
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your website and it seems pretty probable you're
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avoiding the topic based on what i know you know
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you think this will be apparent by the end okay
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That's surprising. I know this feels like a joke
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and it will definitely be played up as such at
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parts in this episode But this is just a discussion
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of a part of the body and if you want to catalog
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a phenomenon You can't just avoid veiny genitals
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that are swinging right in front of you Now,
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without much more, let's just dive headfirst
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into this. And Chelsea, of course, we got to
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start with the most obvious and famous genitals
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in the fringe community, and that is Patty. Yes,
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that's the first one that came to mind when you
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said mostly males because Patty is supposed to
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be a female. Yes. And that's actually what we're
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going to be talking about. Now, I'm sure people
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know of the Patterson Gimlin footage, but I still
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have to go over a bit just because a good idea.
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I think it's only vaguely come up in a few episodes
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before. Now Roger Patterson developed a fascination
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with Bigfoot after reading Ivan T. Sanderson's
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1959 True magazine article and later Sanderson's
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1961 book, Abominable Snowmen, Legends Come to
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Life. Patterson began visiting Bluff Creek, California
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in the early 1960s, where reports of large footprint
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had stirred a local interest. By 1964, he had
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seen fresh tracks himself, which deepened his
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conviction that the creature was real. And in
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October of 1967, Patterson and his friend Bob
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Ginlin set out on horseback along Bluff Creek,
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a tributary to the Klamath River in Northern
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California, hoping to find evidence of Bigfoot.
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On October 20th, they encountered a large, hair
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-covered figure walking upright near the creek.
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Patterson quickly dismounted and filmed the creature,
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later nicknamed Patty, as it moved away from
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them. The resulting 59 -second footage became
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the most famous alleged Bigfoot sighting in history.
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Afterwards, the film was shown to the media and
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researchers, sparking decades of debate, supporters
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pointed to the creature's gait and proportions
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as non -human, while skeptics argued it was a
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man in a costume despite numerous analyses. Despite
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numerous analyses and alleged confessions of
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hoaxers, which there's way more than could potentially
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be involved in, funnily enough, the film remains
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a cultural touchstone in cryptozoology. Now there
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is dispute over the authenticity of this video,
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but what isn't disputed is that if it is an actual
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Bigfoot in the Patterson -Ginlin film, and what
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we are seeing is Patty's boobs clearly on as
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she majestically walks away from the camera as
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if filming Bigfoot Baywatch in the opposite direction.
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That's actually all I got on that one because
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it's clear. You can go watch it. That video is
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fully available. Yeah, and I always thought that
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that was such a funny, if you want to say funny,
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an interesting part of the video is why would
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you make her female of all things? Yeah, it makes
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it harder. think of bigfoot they think a male
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yeah it's kind of like all dogs are boys all
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bigfoots are boys too Like that. So I always
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thought it was a funny detail, because where
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else do you see, one, genitals mentioned? Not
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that they're mentioned, they're just out there
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on the patterns. Why would you actually think
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of, like, including that, too? Exactly! Including
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that as a detail. I just always found it, like,
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a super interesting detail that she was female.
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It is just, like, a clear display. Like, the
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reason I end it there is, one, because you've
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probably seen the footage and you can see very
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clearly breasts. Yeah. But weirdly enough, one
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of the lesser talking points of the whole footage
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too. Yeah, that's true. I don't know unless you've
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like listened to a lot of research about it that
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that would come up just if you've heard about
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it in passing. Yeah. Next up is another Bigfoot
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footage I had never heard of before. It's called
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the Redwood Incident. Is there footage of this?
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Yes, I have it actually. We're going to watch
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it once I read this. If this is on this episode,
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I'm going to go out on a limb and say no. Okay.
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And actually there's weird parts that kind of
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worked into this with as I read the story, but
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is pure coincidence. Okay. In 1995, an alleged
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Bigfoot was filmed from a vehicle in Jedidiah
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Smith Redwoods State Park, California, and what
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appears to be a slender, tapering, mobile sickle
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-shaped penis flexes upwards during the footage.
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Some writers have even interpreted this as a
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possible threat display. The piece of footage
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is known generally as the Redwoods footage, but
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the fact that it was filmed by a crew working
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the Playboy company who was filming a playmate
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at the time. Hence it's often called the Playboy
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footage too. It hasn't exactly helped its credibility
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but Chelsea we're gonna watch this film really
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quick. It's on YouTube so it's not like that
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bad. I watched it I can't really see what they're
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talking about but apparently when people watching
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it say that's what you're seeing. I can't tell
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what's going on but oh yeah sorry right there.
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No I don't. No, I missed it that time. Sorry.
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Right there. Oh, was that a wiener? Yeah, it's
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dangling. Right there. Did you see it? There
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it is. I didn't see that. Sorry, I didn't actually
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see that the first time through. Okay. Yeah.
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Well, um, I have no comment. I don't know what
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to say about that. You can't even tell what that
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is There's no like a wiener. That's the only
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thing you can see it's very thin Okay, so this
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is supposed to be bigfoot that's literally you
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can't even see a bigfoot on there No, and that's
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that whole thing. It is supposed to be a bigfoot.
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It was filmed by people from playboy So that's
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always interesting. That is always interesting.
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Yeah almost in every case Now next up is a man
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who claims to have been abducted. by Bigfoot.
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Albert Ostman in 1924, he's a Canadian prospector
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who was camping near Toba Inlet, British Columbia.
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Where does this encounter come from? It's a famous
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one. I believe there was a Wikipedia article
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on this one. OK, OK, I thought it was like someone
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specific. But it's from 1924. So I think there
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were newspaper articles at the time about this.
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I'm just curious because you're calling everyone
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out on how horrible their genitalia research
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is. Yeah, true enough. Actually the one guy I
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did find who actually had a sufficient article
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on this his name was What's tetsu .com is the
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website and who wrote this? T E T Z O O Oh, okay.
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And the person who wrote this is... Who wrote
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you? I can't find who wrote this. Anyhow, it
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gave me a bit of help with this. Okay. Albert
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Ostman, Toba Inlet, British Columbia, while searching
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for a rumored goldmine, he claimed to have heard
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local stories about wild men in the area, but
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didn't take them seriously. One night, Ostman
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said he was sleeping in a sleeping bag when something
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lifted him up and carried him away, still inside
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the bag for several hours. When he was finally
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dumped out, he found himself in a small mountain
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basin surrounded by four hairy human -like creatures,
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true adults, male and female. and two younger
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ones. Osman described being held captive for
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six days and the creatures didn't harm him but
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prevented him from leaving. He observed their
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behavior closely. The male was large and muscular,
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around eight feet tall. The female was smaller,
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seemed to gather the food. They ate roots, nuts,
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and sweet grass. Communication was limited to
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grunts and gestures. Osman believed that they
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were curious about him but not violent, almost
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treating him as an oddity. He eventually escaped
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by tricking the male Sasquatch with a pouch of
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snuff tobacco and the creature tasted it, became
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sick, and and Ostman seized the chance to flee
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down the mountainside until you reach civilization.
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Ostman kept the story secret for decades, fearing
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ridicule. He finally told it publicly in 1957
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when Bigfoot interest surged after the Jerry
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Crew Bluff Creek footprint discovery. I'm sure
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we've done something about that in the past.
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His account was recorded by journalist John Green
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and researcher Rene DeHinden, who found Ostman
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sincere, but couldn't verify the story. Now,
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while this is all going on, he describes because
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he was living with them. He saw the larger male's
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penis, and he described it as short, about two
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inches long, and hooded with skin. Or, according
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to researcher John Green, following his communications
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with Ostman, like an inverted funnel, which sounds
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horse -like. Wow. That's the most detail we've
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ever heard about Bigfoot's penis. That's incredible.
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I've never heard that before. Next up, and this
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one comes right from the book, Where the Footprints
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End, Chelsea, and it will come up in another
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episode I'm planning in the near future. in actual
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details about the genitalia? Like some. Like
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I said, that first quote I had that put me down
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this path came from I didn't say it came from
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him, but it came from Where the Footprints End
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Volume 2. It's a good book. And I wouldn't say
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like there's an overwhelming a lot of like chapters
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that are just like Bigfoot sightings. Yeah. Like
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it jumps around all over the place. I wouldn't
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expect it to be in every part in the book, honestly,
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because there's so much information in the book.
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And I don't have a date range for this, but he
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has this sighting in here. I'm sorry, anybody
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who's caring. This comes from the book Where
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the Footprints End, High Strangers and the Bigfoot
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Phenomenon, volume two, written by Joshua Kutchin
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and Timothy Renner. They're good reads. They're
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really good reads. They're great reads. And I
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think we're gonna have many episodes from them
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in the future. And you can't just read part one
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without part two, by the way. No, they came out
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at the same time. It's actually a weird system,
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but whatever. Claire, on a business trip to America
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from the United Kingdom, had some spare time
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to sightsee near Camel, California. While there,
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she followed a coastal path to a cove area with
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the intent of photographing sea otters. She was
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sitting on some rocks near the beach taking photographs
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when she began feeling frightened and cold, her
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hair on her neck standing up. Looking to the
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other side of the cove, she saw what she assumed
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was a group of large cats, but soon realized
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they were too bulky to be felines. According
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to Claire, they came from the promontory, have
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never seen anything like it in my life, very
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very large, very hairy, moving on all fours.
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There were several of these creatures. One behind
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the other. It obviously wasn't a cat because
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it was moving in a very strange manner. The head
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kept popping up as if it was sniffing and then
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it popped up. It stood up on two feet. It was
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bipedal. It must have been seven to eight feet
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tall. It was followed into this cove by two others,
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maybe five to six feet, maybe six and a half
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foot and three much smaller ones. Claire watched
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a male, the largest of the creatures, wade into
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the ocean. The two six and a half foot tall creatures,
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females, and the three smallest creatures sat
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on the beach. The large male was tearing out
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seaweed and throwing it to the female creatures.
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Claire observed the females chewing at the root
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of the seaweed, rubbing it on their chests, and
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then draping the seaweed over their shoulders.
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Claire observed the group of Bigfoot for a time
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stunned at the size of the creature. She reached
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for a camera intent on getting a shot of the
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amazing scene when part of her lens kit fell
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and hit the rocks. The sound caused the creatures
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to turn their heads and stare at Claire, suddenly
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aware of her presence. The male waited the water,
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moving towards Claire. Quote from her. I have
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never seen anything move like that in my life.
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It looked almost as if it was gliding across
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the beach." End quote. One of the two female
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creatures followed the large male. The two Bigfoot
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seemed to have an argument. Quote, they were
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screaming each other in gibberish. End quote,
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Claire recalled. The male turned back towards
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Claire, let out a boweling howl, and pounded
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its fist in the sand. Quote, the last thing I
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remember I was feeling incredibly sick was the
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thing. Mouth wide open, big pink mouth. It was
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obviously male. It had an erection and it was
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urinating. And that is all I remember in quotes.
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Claire presumed she passed out at that point.
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She were getting consciousness about 20 yards
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from her car with her jacket pulled around her
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head, black and blue with bruises on her left
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side and bad scratches on her face. The creature
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had presumably dragged her back to her vehicle.
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Her camera and camera bag were missing. Claire
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returned to her hotel in a daze and assuming
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she had been the victim of an assault, hotel
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employees sat her in a private room and called
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the police. See, like to me you just can't make
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something like that up. It would be an odd thing
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to add. Wouldn't it? Like, a lot of that. Like,
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if you're trying to make your story sound credible,
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that just seems like a weird addition. I agree
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with that. These are incredible sightings. I
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really gotta say, what an excellent collection
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you've got here. If you're going to fake it,
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you pick one, erect or urinate, and you don't
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pick both. It's true. Like we've said, most sightings
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are of males, but that doesn't mean that's the
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only genitals we're seeing. I know we did Patty
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before, I had to start that off because that's
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the most famous, but there are female genital
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sightings for Bigfoot as well. In November of
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1968, hunter John Thomas is said to have encountered
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two Bigfoot sleeping out in the open. They were
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in the posture that curiously enough had been
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described on several occasions by witnesses,
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that is, limbs partially folded beneath the body
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and the back facing upwards. Anyway... One of
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these animals had breasts in addition to a swelling
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in its genital region that kept rubbing. Without
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more information, it's difficult to know the
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story here. Presumably, we're talking about a
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modest swelling of the sort seen in various primates
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and not the pronounced striking structure seen
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in chimps, bonobos, and various monkeys. Interesting
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addition there. I wouldn't know the difference,
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to be honest with you. I probably wouldn't have
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noticed a swelling. Yeah, fair. I don't know.
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I can't tell you. I've never seen this, so maybe
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I would notice a swelling. That's the whole thing
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like they just describe it as swelling so it's
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hard to say like what they mean by that Yeah,
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yeah, but this guy says it could be a different
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type of swelling for a different primate Yeah,
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different apes have different swelling that happens
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in the genital region Okay Now a second case
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actually has to do with what's considered a Bigfoot
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butt print left in sandy soil in Walla Walla,
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Washington Where they're nuts the print was cast
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by Paul Freeman an individual with a controversial
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track record in the world of Bigfoot evidence
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shall we say and passed to Jeff Meldrum who described
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it in his 2006 book the print revealed well demarcated
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muscular buttocks but also what appears to be
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the suggestion of a labia with a bit of imagination
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they look from the cast of the impression to
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be quite similar in form or proportion to those
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of a human Wow with the bit of imagination I
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love these guys I would love a copy of this butt
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print I did not know it existed until I went
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looking for genital what are those things there's
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apparently a lot of Bigfoot evidence out there
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that just like we don't know because nobody wants
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to talk about it but we do so thank you for being
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here with us this very interesting topic and
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we're the specialists on the forefront of this
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research self -proclaimed that ends it here for
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my actual like citing parts I found a very unique
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Bigfoot variant that exists in the world, and
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it's called a box. B -O -Q -S. Have you ever
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heard of this, Chelsea? No. Should I Google Bigfoot
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box? No, there's no pictures out there, it's
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not gonna help you in any way, and it is fairly
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obscure. But it's your neck of the woods. It's
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a hairy humanoid told in legends of North America
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tribes such as the Nuxuk, the Chinook, and the
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Salish peoples in the Pacific Northwest. The
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attitude of mingled hope and fear with which
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the Belakula regard their supernatural anthropomorphic
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beings is typical of their thoughts and actions
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concerning zoomorphic creatures as well. In the
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supernatural world, the dividing line between
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humans and animals' beings is not clearly defined.
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mind. Fabulous creatures have the mentality of
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supermen and can be appeased, besought or cajoled
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precisely as are anthropomorphic beings. Like
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those in human form, supernatural animals can
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bestow good or evil on human beings with whom
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they come into contact. The box somewhat resembles
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a man. Its hands especially in the regions around
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the eyes being distinctly human. It walks on
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its hind legs, in a stooping posture, its long
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arms swinging below the knees. In height is rather
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less than the average man. the entire body except
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the face is covered with long hair and the growth
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being most profuse on the chest which is large
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corresponding to this great strength of the animal
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the most peculiar feature of the animal is its
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penis which is so long that it must be rolled
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up and carried in the arms when the creature
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is walking. It terrifies its enemies by striking
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tree trunks and breaking branches with its uncoiled
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organ. It is said that a woman was once drawing
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water at the edge of the stream when a box concealed
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on shore extended its penis under the water to
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the further bank and held intercourse with her.
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The contact rendered her powerless as if turned
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to stone. She could neither flee nor remove the
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organ, her companion tried to unsuccessfully
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cut the organ until one of them brought a Salaberry
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leaf, whereupon the monster, dreading its razor
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-like edge, withdrew. The following stories illustrate
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better than any other description the attitude
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of the Belakula towards these animals. Not many
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years ago, a certain Cackless was encamped with
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his wife and child in the Bay of the Thousand
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Islands, Altaqualc Luxus, and I do apologize
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for my pronunciation of this stuff. About two
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miles above Namu. One of the haunts of the box.
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He heard a number of the creatures in the forest
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behind him and seized his gun at the same time
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calling out to them to go away. Instead of breaking
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the branches and beating upon tree trunks came
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nearer. So, you know, that's the penis right
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there. Becoming alarmed he called out once more
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go away, or you shall feel my power They still
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approach and the cackles fired in the direction
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of the sounds there followed a wild commotion
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in the forest roars grunts poundings and the
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breaking of branches Oh, man. I'm sorry just
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when they're making these descriptions of everything
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going on keep in mind that it's penis related
21:38
The hunter, now thoroughly alarmed, told his
21:40
wife and child to embark in the canoe while he
21:42
covered their retreat with his gun. He followed
21:44
them without molestation and anchored his craft
21:47
not far from the shore. The box could be heard
21:49
plainly as they rushed to and fro on the beach,
21:51
but only the vague outlines of their form were
21:53
visible in the darkness. Presently, though there
21:56
was no wind, the canoe began to roll as if in
21:59
a heavy sea. Cackless decided to flee to the
22:01
Restoration Bay, but before he had gone far,
22:04
his paddle struck bottom, although he was in
22:06
mid -channel. Looking up, he saw that the mountains
22:09
were higher than the usual. The box had, by their
22:11
supernatural power, raised the whole area so
22:13
that the water had been almost entirely drained
22:15
away. They are the only supernatural beings with
22:18
this power. Cackless jumped overboard in the
22:20
water, which reached only to his knees, and towed
22:23
his canoe to Restoration Bay. following him along
22:26
the shore. This is not the only occasion on which
22:28
box have appeared near Restoration Bay. Within
22:30
the lifetime of the father of an informant, a
22:33
chief set out with some friends from Quat 'n
22:35
have bound for Namu. They traveled overland to
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the Restoration Bay, thence by canoe, making
22:40
the journey without incident. When returning,
22:42
they decided to gather clams on the rocky point
22:44
of the bay. As the craft shot around the tip
22:46
of the promontory, they saw a box gathering shellfish.
22:49
The paddlers backed their canoes behind some
22:52
rocks once they could watch without being seen.
22:55
The creature acted as if frightened. It kept
22:57
looking backwards and then hurriedly scraped
22:59
up some clams with its pawpaws. Well that's good
23:02
they don't hunt with the penis. Dash off with
23:05
these into the forest. and came back for more.
23:08
The chief decided to attack the animal. A frontal
23:10
approach was impossible, owing to the lack of
23:12
cover, so he landed and crept stealthily through
23:14
the forest, armed with his Hudson's Bay Company's
23:16
musket. Presently, he stumbled upon a heap of
23:19
clams which the animal had collected. He waited
23:20
until it returned with another load, and then
23:22
raised his musket and fired. Instead of killing
23:24
the box, its supernatural power was so great
23:27
that the hunter's musket burst in his hand, though
23:29
he himself was not injured. The box shrieked
23:31
and whistled as if in anger, and at once, hordes
23:33
of his mates came dashing out through the forest.
23:36
The frightened chief rushed out on the beach
23:38
and called to his comrades to save him. They
23:40
brought the canoe close to the shore so that
23:41
he could clamber aboard, and they paddled away
23:44
unharmed. The Belakula believed that the box,
23:46
unlike most supernatural animals, have not abandoned
23:48
the country since the coming of the white man.
23:51
One man was most insistent. that they lived on
23:53
King Island and promised to point one out if
23:55
a visit were made to that spot. The man refuses
23:58
to camp on the place where he affirmed Boxer
24:00
Common. Another informant stated that though
24:03
he had never seen one of the monsters, a horde
24:05
of them surrounded his camp near Canoe Crossing
24:07
for a week. Every night he heard them roaring
24:09
and beating on trees and branches. A curious
24:13
blending of old and new beliefs was accorded
24:16
in connection with the statement. This man remarked
24:18
that once he was gathering firewood when he heard
24:20
the creatures closing in on him. His head swam
24:23
with terror until he remembered he was a Christian.
24:25
He called to Jesus to help him, grasped his axe,
24:28
and dashed towards the place from which the loudest
24:30
sounds were coming. He heard the animals moving
24:32
off all around him but failed to see any of them.
24:34
Vox have been heard as recently as 1924 according
24:37
to popular belief. In January of that year a
24:40
number of young bellicula were returning home
24:42
in a motorboat from Ocean Falls and they camped
24:45
for the night on Burke Channel. They were alarmed
24:47
to hear a crashing of bushes and a beating of
24:50
tree trunks, thoroughly frightened, they directed
24:52
the beams of several electric torches in that
24:55
direction of the sound, without a veil, and at
24:57
last started the engine of their motor, and the
24:59
noises of which frightened the animals away.
25:01
Now these accounts came from the field notes
25:03
of Franz Boas and George Hunt, two of the most
25:05
influential ethnographers to ever work in the
25:08
Pacific Northwest. They were documenting the
25:10
world as the Nuxilch and their neighbors understood
25:13
it. The stories people told, the beings they
25:15
believed, lived in the forests and rivers and
25:17
the experiences their elders Tucked into this
25:20
notebook, sometimes as a quick line, sometimes
25:22
as longer recollections, are descriptions of
25:24
wild, hairy figures that later scholars grouped
25:26
under the name of the box. What stands out is
25:28
how consistent the details are. Tall, human -shaped,
25:30
long -armed, skittish, and one very clear feature
25:33
is genitals so long they had to be carried, coiled,
25:36
or held out of the way. This isn't meant as a
25:40
joke for the tradition either. In these traditions,
25:43
exaggerated anatomy is a way of marking something
25:45
as not human. It's a visual cue. The same way
25:49
that you describe a creature with glowing eyes
25:51
or backwards feet. The detail explains how the
25:53
beings move, why it runs awkwardly. It's simply
25:56
part of what made this creature. Interesting
25:58
insight. And it makes me think back to all reports
26:02
of like tree knocking and stuff with Bigfoot.
26:05
Nobody's witnessed it. We don't know what they're
26:08
knocking on the trees or houses with. It brings
26:11
a whole new meaning to that. And if somebody
26:13
did notice, are they actually going to say it?
26:16
That's true. I mean, you've already seen a Bigfoot,
26:19
do you want to say it's knocking on trees with
26:21
its penis? With its massive lasso -like penis?
26:24
It was massive. It was actually over his shoulder
26:27
and then he was knocking on the tree with it.
26:31
Actually, when they're saying that these things
26:32
are like knocking things over or making marks
26:34
so high that it seems impossible. We got the
26:37
answer here. It might have 10 extra feet of length
26:41
to work with. This had never occurred to me that
26:44
that's what it could be. It's wild. And it is
26:47
it does bring a whole new supernatural element
26:50
to it. I've never heard that take on it. That's
26:53
interesting. That's the part where I have to
26:55
call out Hammerson Peters on. because he has
26:58
to have come by the story at some point. And
27:01
he just didn't want to share it. He does a ton
27:03
of work in this part of the world, and I could
27:06
find nothing. Sorry, I found two references to
27:08
genitals or penis on his website, neither of
27:11
which was the story. They were very brief. And
27:14
they had to do with like Christian beliefs and
27:17
a giant somewhere, but they weren't that important
27:20
to include here. But yeah, I'm going to keep
27:22
it there. Oh, you're going to have a follow up.
27:25
I feel like I might have a follow up in the future
27:27
as I could get this together in 36 hours. What
27:30
can I do with a bit more prep time? Hold on.
27:33
I'm going to share my screen. This is the ass
27:36
print. Oh. Huh. It looks particularly hairy.
27:40
It does. What was it sitting on? Where is the
27:43
ass print? This seems to be a cheek. Chelsea,
27:45
did you know before this episode there was an
27:47
ass print? I had no idea. I honestly want to
27:50
get it tattooed. On your ass. Right over my ass.
27:58
It's beautiful. I just had to share this with
28:03
you. What I'm left with is that there is clearly
28:07
more out there like this is just a brief Bigfoot
28:10
episode put together fairly quickly on their
28:13
genitals and There has to be more out there because
28:17
you can find Mention that it's mostly males that
28:20
are seen which leads people to believe that's
28:23
being referenced more than what I just said because
28:26
you couldn't gather They're mostly male from
28:28
like five sighting But me and you both know that
28:31
it's not out there though. We have had it come
28:33
up in a sighting I think it's been one because
28:36
we both freaked out over it and we're so happy
28:39
that somebody and I can't remember What episode
28:42
it was in it was a recent one. It was this year.
28:44
It was this season Oh, it was one of the Mothman
28:47
wasn't it? Was it Mothman? It could have been
28:49
could have been a Mothman could have been crawler
28:52
Was it crawler could have been a crawler? Let's
28:55
not speculate too much. Yeah, but in the end
28:57
this is a very important part of the whole story
29:01
that is just neglected and I'm glad I could shine
29:04
some light on a neglected part of this world.
29:07
I for one am very grateful for that. You're right,
29:10
why haven't we covered this before? Why doesn't
29:14
anybody know about the box and why is Bella Coola
29:17
not using it as its official mascot? It's true,
29:20
like Turkmenistan. I just feel like it's like
29:23
a taboo topic I think still for people to be
29:26
bringing it up and We'll do the leg work for
29:29
you guys. We'll not put it so much in the mainstream
29:33
But we'll talk about it so that you guys feel
29:35
more comfortable putting it in your sightings
29:37
Because they might not be asking you for it,
29:40
but it's important But I do also get it like
29:42
if there's a bear sighting nobody asks about
29:45
the penis But it's because we know enough about
29:47
the bear penis. It's true. It's been scientifically
29:51
studied It's got a bone and bears aren't specifically
29:55
named bear man like It's not specifically because
29:59
there's only males, which leads you to believe
30:01
there's only bear males, which means that people
30:05
have only sighted penises. You see what we're
30:09
getting at? Instead, bears, we just don't say
30:11
their name. We lose it to time, because it might
30:14
have been brown penis. Exactly. That's probably
30:18
a good spot to end it. I have been Taylor, here
30:21
with Chelsea. We are Journey to the Fringe. Thank
30:22
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