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Trump Wins Another Debate · Pod Save America

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Pod Save America. I'm Jon Favreau.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Jon Lovett. I'm Dan Pfeiffer.
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  Speaker 1: We just watched the second Republican debate. at the Ronald
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  Speaker 1: Reagan Library in California, right here in the state of California.
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  Speaker 1: That was quite a debate. Quite a debate, guys. If
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  Speaker 1: you missed the debate, which I hope you did, here's
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  Speaker 1: just a flavor. of of what it was like and.
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  Speaker 3: I will say something i think you have more than
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  Speaker 3: time to explain your point well if i was interrupted
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  Speaker 3: by a lot of people here and i want to
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  Speaker 3: be respectful because i believe you were respectful last but
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  Speaker 3: i do not believe in these we're sitting here in
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  Speaker 3: the reagan.
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  Speaker 4: Library yes i wish you in the honor of ronald
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  Speaker 4: reagan's library.
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  Speaker 3: If i may admit well from one tim from one
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  Speaker 3: admirer of ronald reagan to another i'm asking from one
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  Speaker 3: admirer of reagan to another we cannot do.
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  Speaker 5: Deals this isn't productive i want to hear about that.
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  Speaker 3: Let's have a policy debate.
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  Speaker 4: Let us have a policy debate.
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  Speaker 5: Let's have a policy debate.
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  Speaker 3: And the right answer is we need to declare independence
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  Speaker 3: from China.
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  Speaker 4: And I will see that through.
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  Speaker 1: Worse than I remember.
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  Speaker 4: None of you would suck Reagan's cock the way I would.
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  Speaker 4: I'd get the job done. I'd get it done.
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  Speaker 1: We should point out that that was one of the
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  Speaker 1: more exciting parts of the debate.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was real slog.
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  Speaker 1: General impressions. Dan? I like them.
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  Speaker 2: We're a little punchy here. It's late at night.
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  Speaker 4: We're tired.
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  Speaker 1: We're bored.
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  Speaker 2: We're drinking. I don't know what anyone was doing. The moderators,
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  Speaker 2: the candidates. It was a giant waste of time. And
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  Speaker 2: I was offended as a television viewer and a political
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  Speaker 2: professional because I don't know what any of them were doing.
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  Speaker 1: I want to read you a statement about the debate.
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  Speaker 6: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. Chris LaCivita.
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  Speaker 4: This is like when somebody reads something from the Unabomber
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  Speaker 4: Manifesto and it's like, it was the Unabomber. Now, how
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  Speaker 4: do you feel?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I haven't agreed with any statement tonight more
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  Speaker 1: than that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, what a waste of fucking time. I mean, we'll
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  Speaker 4: get to Nikki Haley. Nikki Haley seemed to have a
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  Speaker 4: plan and actually do something. While she was standing there
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  Speaker 4: for two hours?
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  Speaker 1: Again, on Earth 2, yeah. When there's like another Republican
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  Speaker 1: primary with the people that were on the stage.
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  Speaker 4: Sure, no, I'm not defending it.
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  Speaker 1: Robert Costa, reporter at CBS, tweeted, Lots of angst tonight
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  Speaker 1: among my top GOP sources about this debate. Donors concerned.
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  Speaker 1: Flurry of texts. Questions about where this race goes from here.
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  Speaker 1: They wonder, can anybody have a breakout moment? No. The
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  Speaker 1: answer is no.
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  Speaker 2: Do you want to go from here?
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  Speaker 1: Here.
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  Speaker 2: Here we are, where we have been for months with
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  Speaker 2: Donald Trump winning easily and no one trying to beat him.
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  Speaker 1: It was wild. Like there was a little more, they
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  Speaker 1: leaned in a little harder on the Trump attacks tonight.
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  Speaker 2: On one thing, him not being at the debate, the
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  Speaker 2: absolute stupidest thing in the world. Donald Trump was found
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  Speaker 2: guilty of fraud yesterday. No one mentioned it. He threatened
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  Speaker 2: to kill the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
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  Speaker 2: this weekend.
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  Speaker 1: Didn't come up. Moderator didn't bring it out.
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  Speaker 4: Several of them know personally. Just on a human level.
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  Speaker 4: It's really unbelievable. DeSantis went after Trump a little on abortion.
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  Speaker 4: For a second. He said, I wish he was at
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  Speaker 4: the debate to defend his comments.
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  Speaker 1: And their favorite thing, they all go after him on
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  Speaker 1: adding to the debt. To the Republicans on that stage,
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  Speaker 1: the worst sin that Donald Trump committed in four years
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  Speaker 1: as president is that he was a little profligate.
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  Speaker 4: Is that why those people were trying to rip the
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  Speaker 4: cop's limb from limb? Was it the deficit of the
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  Speaker 4: out years? Is that what it was? I didn't know
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  Speaker 4: what it was.
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  Speaker 1: So let's go through candidate by candidate. It was a
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  Speaker 1: terrible debate. There was nothing really interesting about it. But
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  Speaker 1: keep listening. But keep listening. Well, we'll get into it.
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  Speaker 1: Ron DeSantis, first of all, It took, I counted, 16
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  Speaker 1: minutes into the debate for Ron DeSantis to even speak.
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  Speaker 1: It didn't even seem like he was there.
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  Speaker 2: And then- Best 16 minutes he's had in months.
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  Speaker 1: And then finally, finally he spoke. And this is what
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  Speaker 1: he said.
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  Speaker 5: Where's Joe Biden? He's completely missing in action from leadership.
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  Speaker 5: And you know who else is missing in action? Donald
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  Speaker 5: Trump is missing in action. He should be on this
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  Speaker 5: stage tonight. He owes it to you to defend his
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  Speaker 5: record where they added $ 7.
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  Speaker 4: 8 trillion to the debt.
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  Speaker 1: So that was Ron's big moment. What did you guys
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  Speaker 1: think about Ron DeSantis tonight, huh?
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  Speaker 4: It's just nothing. It's just nothing.
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  Speaker 1: This guy. No one has told him in debate prep
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  Speaker 1: to fix the face stuff?
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  Speaker 4: I don't think it's fixable.
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  Speaker 1: Or the voice? Can't fix the face, can't fix the voice?
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  Speaker 4: Well, none of those. First of all, it's a hard thing.
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  Speaker 4: These people in the debate prep with Ron DeSantis, he
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  Speaker 4: may not be a person, but maybe they are. And
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  Speaker 4: it's a tough thing to bring up. Hey, we think
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  Speaker 4: one of our problems is your face and the noises
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  Speaker 4: that it makes. When it communicates. That's a tough thing
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  Speaker 4: to fix.
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  Speaker 1: Every single answer he finishes, he just sits there and
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  Speaker 1: he gives this weird, weird half grin, half smirking for
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  Speaker 1: the camera. It's very uncomfortable.
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  Speaker 4: Well, they're all very rehearsed. His cadence is very rehearsed.
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  Speaker 4: Even that Joe Biden line was all very rehearsed. And
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  Speaker 4: all of them have this way of speaking in these debates.
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  Speaker 4: Tim Scott does it. Vivek does it. Ron DeSantis does it.
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  Speaker 4: Nikki Haley does it. They all do it. Which is
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  Speaker 4: this kind of like 90s style... sentences like, we're gonna
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  Speaker 4: take them down and go up to the top and
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  Speaker 4: they want us to give up. Well, we're not gonna
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  Speaker 4: give in and you can't surrender because of my strength
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  Speaker 4: and we're gonna have victory, not victimhood.
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  Speaker 1: And it just doesn't work. We're gonna turn up the
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  Speaker 1: heat and turn America around.
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  Speaker 4: And see, that was one that worked. I'm really glad
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  Speaker 4: you brought it up. That's a good example of how
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  Speaker 4: it can work. famously in iowa in 2007 16 years
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  Speaker 4: ago before the iphone it was a really good moment.
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  Speaker 1: I think you are correct that a lot of them
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  Speaker 1: do that but desantis is the worst there's like way
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  Speaker 1: too much alliteration all of it sound canned like trump's
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  Speaker 1: attack on desantis is that he is a like of
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  Speaker 1: washington he's part of the swamp and everyone's like well
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  Speaker 1: that's weird because he's like governor of florida But he
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  Speaker 1: sounds like a Washington politician. No one on that stage
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  Speaker 1: sounds like a Washington, except maybe Mike Pence, sounds like
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  Speaker 1: a Washington politician more than Ron DeSantis.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and it is really effective, too, because all Ron
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  Speaker 4: DeSantis wants to do is sit in a room and
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  Speaker 4: work really hard on the sentence he's going to use
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  Speaker 4: to rebut the argument that he pre-plans everything he says
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  Speaker 4: and sounds like an automaton. And he can't get out
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  Speaker 4: of it.
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  Speaker 1: And his strategy tonight was he kept going after the D.C. elites.
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  Speaker 1: Like someone must have told him, you've got to get
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  Speaker 1: your outsider status back. So every single answer, he hit
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  Speaker 1: the D.C. elites. You know who people don't think is
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  Speaker 1: a D.C.
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  Speaker 6: Elite?
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  Speaker 2: Donald Trump.
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  Speaker 1: Right. That's why it's just a weird.
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  Speaker 2: This is true of every single person. Donald Trump is
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  Speaker 2: up by 30 points in Iowa and 30 points in
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  Speaker 2: New Hampshire. But in the CBS poll that came out yesterday,
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  Speaker 2: 80% of the voters in both of those states are
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  Speaker 2: open to someone other than Trump. And no one tried
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  Speaker 2: to do anything about that dynamic.
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  Speaker 1: I think they don't know why people, why that many
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  Speaker 1: people are open to someone besides Trump. Like they haven't
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  Speaker 1: figured out.
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  Speaker 2: They haven't tried. They haven't tried a single argument.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they haven't.
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  Speaker 4: The idea is, the idea that.
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  Speaker 1: He spent too much money. Spent too much money. It's insane.
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  Speaker 2: Just if, I don't think any of them want to win,
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  Speaker 2: but they think that they've decided they can't win and
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  Speaker 2: they're trying to just navigate the, land the plane of
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  Speaker 2: their failing campaign in a way that maximizes their position
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  Speaker 2: in a Trump Republican party.
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  Speaker 4: Or they believe that nothing they can do can change
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  Speaker 4: the fundamentals of this race. So they want to be
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  Speaker 4: there as the first among fucking duds in case something
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  Speaker 4: changes in the criminal process, in the race that's outside
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  Speaker 4: of their control.
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  Speaker 1: Unless he dies. That's it. They're just waiting in case
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  Speaker 1: he dies. They want to be there. I think that
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  Speaker 1: there's like nothing. There's no other reason.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the trial is not starting until after all
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  Speaker 2: the delegates are allocated.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: At the most optimistic case.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, do we think a conviction at this point
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  Speaker 1: would sway the Republican electorate?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, if these people knew what would sway the
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  Speaker 4: Republican electorate, they'd be doing it.
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  Speaker 1: Also, by the way, as they're all doing this, Donald
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  Speaker 1: Trump earlier, we're going to play a clip of his
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  Speaker 1: speech in a bit, but part of his speech in Detroit,
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  Speaker 1: he said that none of the people running he would
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  Speaker 1: pick as vice president. Just said it tonight right before
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  Speaker 1: the debate.
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  Speaker 4: It's just incredible. These people are picking these little fights
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  Speaker 4: with each other Tim Scott's going after Nikki Haley. Nikki
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  Speaker 4: Haley's going after Vivek. Vivek is going after Chris Christie. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 4: Trump's in South Carolina. You hear about this? These whales
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  Speaker 4: are dying. Up by 40 fucking points.
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  Speaker 1: Unstoppable. Unstoppable. A Republican consultant who is supporting Ron DeSantis
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  Speaker 1: said to Semaphore before the debate, if he doesn't do
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  Speaker 1: well here, in my opinion, he's got to drop out
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  Speaker 1: if he doesn't want to be embarrassed. Do you think
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  Speaker 1: he did well enough not to drop out?
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  Speaker 4: I think that's a time machine question.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he was, I will say this about Rhonda Sanders,
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  Speaker 1: he was better than last debate, but he still sucked.
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  Speaker 1: He still was not, like, the best of it. debate.
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  Speaker 2: As long as he's Ron DeSantis, he's going to suck.
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  Speaker 2: He doesn't... It's not there. He does not have it.
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  Speaker 1: And I think part of his problem was he... And
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  Speaker 1: we'll talk about Nikki Haley next, but she's sort of
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  Speaker 1: stealing the mantle of the non-Trump alternative from him, or
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  Speaker 1: at least... that field has become too crowded now and
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  Speaker 1: Ron DeSantis does not look like he is in second. Like, look,
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  Speaker 1: according to polls, he's still second place nationally and depending
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  Speaker 1: on which early state poll you look at in early states,
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  Speaker 1: but he certainly didn't act like that or seem like
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  Speaker 1: that on the stage tonight.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's sort of what I mean when I say
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  Speaker 4: that I feel like, you know, it's not going to
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  Speaker 4: do anything, but at least it's, it seems like she
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  Speaker 4: had some sort of goal for what she was going
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  Speaker 4: to do in the debate. You know, I do think
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  Speaker 4: she's taken that mantle. I think she was feisty and,
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  Speaker 4: in a way that Chris Christie wasn't, right? Like, I
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  Speaker 4: think she actually was the only one to do something
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  Speaker 4: with that time.
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  Speaker 1: Let's hear some of Nikki Haley's feistiness from tonight.
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  Speaker 7: That we could have and what you've got i honestly
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  Speaker 7: every time i hear you i feel a little bit
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  Speaker 7: dumber for what you say because i can't believe ronda
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  Speaker 7: sanis is against fracking he's against drilling he's been against
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  Speaker 7: you did it every he always talks about what happens
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  Speaker 7: on day one you better watch out because what happens
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  Speaker 7: on day two is when you're in trouble i appreciate
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  Speaker 7: tim we've known each other a long time but he's
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  Speaker 7: been there 12 years and he hasn't done any of that.
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  Speaker 6: Did you get a gift receipt for those fucking curtains or.
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  Speaker 2: Not, Nikki?
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  Speaker 4: They take the credit. They'll take the credit.
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  Speaker 1: The curtains exchange was one of the dumbest exchanges of
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  Speaker 1: an otherwise very dumb debate.
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  Speaker 4: Two people in single digits in the polls arguing each
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  Speaker 4: other over a curtain purchase from the State Department in 2017.
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  Speaker 1: Literally. That's what that was about. The beginning of that
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  Speaker 1: clip when she said, I'm dumber every time I hear
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  Speaker 1: you speak was about Vivek Ramaswamy, which was I wanted
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  Speaker 1: to cheer when she said that. I think because he
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  Speaker 1: is extremely annoying. But I think like, so she was feisty,
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  Speaker 1: sort of went after a bunch of other candidates, but
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  Speaker 1: I also think that her answers were, there's like solid answers.
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  Speaker 1: She seemed like she commanded the stage more than almost
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  Speaker 1: anyone else. Again, I don't- On a low bar. She's
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  Speaker 1: not in danger of becoming the Republican. Come on, Dan.
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  Speaker 8: Come on, Dan.
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  Speaker 4: Tell us what you liked about Nikki Haley.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, she commanded the stage more than Doug Burgum.
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  Speaker 1: You are correct.
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  Speaker 2: To the extent that she has a plan. And I
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  Speaker 2: agree she has a plan. It's not a plan to win,
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  Speaker 2: but she- Then what is it?
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  Speaker 1: What is it a plan?
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  Speaker 4: Well, it is a plan- I'm curious.
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  Speaker 2: What she is doing, Nate Cohn, I thought, wrote about
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  Speaker 2: this very smartly in the New York Times this morning,
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  Speaker 2: is she's appealing to a faction of Republicans. She is
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  Speaker 2: appealing specifically to the non-Trump vote. She's not doing it
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  Speaker 2: by attacking Trump, but she's trying to be the normal
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  Speaker 2: Bush-like Republican, traditional Republican. DeSantis' problem is he has no
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  Speaker 2: constituency- because he's trying to just be a worse version
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  Speaker 2: of Trump. And the Trump voters are very happy with Trump.
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  Speaker 2: So why would they do that? Nikki Haley is go.
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  Speaker 2: And that may be why she goes after Tim Scott,
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  Speaker 2: because Tim Scott is her competition for that lane.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, that's right.
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  Speaker 2: And I think she genuinely hates Vivek. That was sincere.
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  Speaker 2: That's the only moment of sincerity on there. And I
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  Speaker 2: think they all, that's one thing that brought them all
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  Speaker 2: together and maybe America.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Because there was a moment when she, they've all got
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  Speaker 1: sort of like oppo research on Vivek. They've got these
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  Speaker 1: oppo files that they've just been waiting to use. There
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  Speaker 1: was like, you know, reports that some of them were
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  Speaker 1: going to use them in the last debate, specifically Ron DeSantis,
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  Speaker 1: because it's super packed.
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  Speaker 4: Like they're flooding their torpedo tubes.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And some of it has to do with business in China.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. They all hate China. That's all they
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  Speaker 1: talked about all night. When one of them attacked him
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  Speaker 1: on China, suddenly like four different candidates on stage were
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  Speaker 1: just like, China this, China that, China, like they all
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  Speaker 1: jumped on Vivek.
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  Speaker 4: I also dislike China. Yes, that was also something I
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  Speaker 4: was going to do. That's something that Mike Pence was
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  Speaker 4: going to do. He likes China.
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  Speaker 1: I don't. He likes China. He has a history with China.
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  Speaker 1: I don't.
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  Speaker 4: I'd like to interrupt to say that was something that
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  Speaker 4: I was going to also say, that was something I
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  Speaker 4: planned to do about now. And I'm going to do
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  Speaker 4: it now.
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  Speaker 2: Am I doing it?
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  Speaker 4: I'm not doing it now.
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  Speaker 1: Got it. Vivek Ramaswamy, who I think in the first debate,
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  Speaker 1: I was like, he's extremely annoying, but maybe there's the
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  Speaker 1: part of the Republican base that likes Donald Trump would
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  Speaker 1: like what Vivek Ramaswamy is selling. Tonight, I cannot imagine
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  Speaker 1: why any human being of any political persuasion would enjoy
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  Speaker 1: spending any time with Vivek Ramaswamy. He's the most annoying.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, here's my takeaway.
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  Speaker 1: Smarmy.
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  Speaker 4: I missed the first debate because I was on vacation
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  Speaker 4: and that was my time. And you couldn't have it.
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  Speaker 4: So this was my first time seeing him in this
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  Speaker 4: kind of a forum. And it is a testament to
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  Speaker 4: the fucking charisma vacuum. Don't have it. Tomaton losers that
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  Speaker 4: are on that stage that anyone thinks this guy has
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  Speaker 4: any charisma. He and Ron DeSantis are from the same mold.
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  Speaker 4: They have the same style. They have the same appealing
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  Speaker 4: way of explaining things to you. And I just, I
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  Speaker 4: don't get it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's less robotic than DeSantis, but just as annoying,
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  Speaker 1: maybe more so.
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  Speaker 2: He's annoying in a different way.
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  Speaker 1: Different way. Like, just like smarmy, know-it-all kind of way.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you were, I don't know if we're going to
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  Speaker 4: play the clip, but there was this, the moment where
• 15:15
  Speaker 4: he was talking about how I'm here to listen. I
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  Speaker 4: came to listen and learn.
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  Speaker 1: Right before Nikki Haley fucking destroyed him.
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  Speaker 4: And it does seem like there must be some feedback
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  Speaker 4: they're getting about how unappealing and kind of mansplaining this
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  Speaker 4: guy is.
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  Speaker 2: I think there was a thought, because he really did
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  Speaker 2: dominate the stage the last time. He was the only
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  Speaker 2: person who drove a narrative. He had most of the
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  Speaker 2: speaking time. People were responding to him, which felt completely
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: out of nowhere, given the fact that most of the
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: Americans had never seen him before that moment. And I
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: think there was a sense that, oh, is he going
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: to be the breakout candidate from this debate? And he
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: did not. He's actually, I think, lost a little bit
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: of ground since the debate, the national polling average. And
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: I am positive from having watched this that their focus
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: groups say that people found him annoying and pretentious. And
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: he went into this debate.
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: People, I guess those voters were correct. I mean, sometimes
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: the voters.
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: And he went in this debate with a plan to
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: try to sand down the edges of that annoyingness, which
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: is why he did not, when people came after him,
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: that's why he, instead of fighting back as he did
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: last time, he was just like, Ronald Reagan, 11th commandment,
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: policy debate. And then he did that completely rehearsed routine
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: about saying that he would listen to people and get
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: advice from older people and all of this.
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: Do you think that his polls might be affected by
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: the fact that he has the hairstyle of your third
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: pick for a DJ for a bar mitzvah?
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: His hair gets bigger with every debate.
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: What the fuck is that?
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: I didn't really land that joke.
• 16:43
  Speaker 6: Just.
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: Kind of got stuck in the middle.
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: Leave it at it.
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: I don't care. This is free. He talked a lot
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: about kids in social media. It was a big problem
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: of his.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: That's his response.
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: I'm going to book him on offline.
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: That's his response to being on TikTok. He's the only
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: Republican candidate on TikTok.
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: And so he's gotten a lot of crap for that.
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: He also talked about getting drugs on Snapchat.
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: There's a fentanyl baby.
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: One just small... somewhat serious point, which is it is
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: really despicable that Dana Perino decided that one thing she
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: wanted to get out of this debate was some kind
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: of pledge from each of the candidates to pass a
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: federal law to require, I guess, teachers and school nurses
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: to out kids to parents if those kids come to
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: those teachers and tell them that they're gay or trans
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: or non-binary or what have you, that that's what she
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: viewed as a really interesting and exciting way to make
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: the most of this debate, to get some kind of
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: yes or no answer on this.
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: She pegged the question off an answer that Christie gave
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: to Stuart Varney, one of the co-moderators, like just last week,
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: which is wild.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: And it's the only question that she followed up on
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: like 12 times. Like she tried to pin Doug Burgum
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: down repeatedly on it.
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: Like that's one of her, that's what she thinks is
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: the most important thing she can do on this forum
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: is try to shift the Republican Party to the right
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: on the issue of of trans.
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: And gay kids. That's giving her, I think, more credit
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: than she deserves on having any kind of strategy because
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: all three moderators just were like bowled over by the candidates.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: They were like interrupted all the time. They couldn't get
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: a word. It was wild. It was wild. Let's talk
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: about Chris Christie. Lovett's pal. You know, I think we
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: said in the first debate, he didn't sort of take
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: all the opportunities he had to really go after Donald Trump.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: His first question to him, here's what he said in
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: this debate.
• 18:47
  Speaker 6: And you're not here tonight, not because of polls and
• 18:50
  Speaker 6: not because of your indictments. You're not here tonight because
• 18:53
  Speaker 6: you're afraid of being on the stage and defending your record.
• 18:57
  Speaker 6: You're ducking these things. And let me tell you what's
• 18:59
  Speaker 6: going to happen. You keep doing that, no one up
• 19:02
  Speaker 6: here is going to call you Donald Trump anymore. We're
• 19:03
  Speaker 6: going to call you Donald Duck.
• 19:06
  Speaker 8: I want to ask Governor DeSantis.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: Love it. I think that was a great line that
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: you gave him. I don't know what everyone's talking about.
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: I think you did a great job. Yeah, I mean, look,
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: it was sort of like how the car sponsor, you know,
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: we kind of worked on it together. Some of it
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: was his. I don't remember if it was Donald Duck,
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: I think it was mine, or it was his. We
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: kind of went back and forth.
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: But that's our partnership.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: It's sort of like a gestalt.
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: Man, no one has ever... been so close to landing
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: a plane on a beautiful and clear day, and then
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: exploded right on the runway. It was a great moment,
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: and then it lands on Donald fucking Duck. What's going on?
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: Who are in these debate prep sessions with Ron DeSantis,
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: Chris Christie, all of them.
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: Donald Duck?
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: And he has, oh, the Donald Duck line. They're all like, yeah, yeah, sir,
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: that's great. Do the Donald Duck line. That's, what?
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: Dan? It was wild. I mean, before we came in here,
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: I decided to do a little prep, so I clicked
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: on a news article from NBC News that was six
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: takeaways from the debate. And one, number three was, Chris
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: Christie got Donald Duck trending on Twitter.
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: Ah, It was a good moment for him, too. We
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: were all like, oh, this is a good moment. This
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: was a good hit. And we're like, here we go.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: He had some energy.
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: How does it end?
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: It was early in the debate.
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: He's looking at the camera. It was like, all right.
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: Now that's the Chris Christie that I fell in love with.
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: That's the Chris Christie from my younger days.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: It was just, yeah. Then he had another, you know,
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: he hit Trump for not building the wall. Trump said
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: he was going to build the wall and have Mexico
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: pay for it. but he only built 52 miles. And
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: if Mexico knew it had only been 52 miles, maybe
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: they would have paid for it, which is like, it's.
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: On its way to something.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: Is it 2017? Like what is happening?
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: It's again, again, just cut to an insurrectionist being like
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: only 52 miles.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: Tim Scott, Tim Scott got a, got his note from
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: the last debate was you didn't say anything. You were
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: too quiet, so you've got to make your case.
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: Sir, we've looked at some of the crosstabs after your
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: performance in the first debate, and our view is just
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: strategically we think you should speak. And obviously that may
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: not help. We're probably not confident that speaking will have
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: as much of an effect as we'd like, but it's
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: the only thing we can do on a debate stage.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: He did speak. He did speak a lot more in
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: this debate, but he... Tim Scott kind of did a,
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: I'm going to give different parts of my stump speech,
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: you know, and someone obviously told him, you know, you're,
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: you're lean on your personal story. That's where you're inspiring
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: your hope message, all that kind of stuff. So he
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: sort of, did a lot of rhetoric around there, but
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: often it didn't make sense with the question that was
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: asked to him, and I don't know.
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: To no end.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: It's to no end.
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: Why are you running for president? I still don't know.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: Well, he got the first question, which was about the economy,
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: and I literally looked at my computer, looked up, and
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: he was talking about fentanyl on the border.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he did that a lot. A lot of them
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: just sort of pivoted to another question or topic that
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: they wanted to talk about.
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: And not to topics that might be easier or more
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: conducive to a good moment for them. There was one
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: moment where Dana Perino's best moment was, I think it
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: was Pence, who went on some tangent. And she's like,
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: I believe the question was about health care.
• 22:18
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was about health care. And his answer was,
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: I would pursue the federal death penalty for anyone involved
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: in a mass shooting.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: Expedited death penalty.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: Expedited death penalty.
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that'll do it.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: That's health care. That's his health care plan.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: Hey, why didn't we think of that?
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: So Mike Pence was at the debate. He tested out
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: some jokes again. He had one terribly lame line about,
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: you know, Joe Biden shouldn't be on the picket line.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: He should be on the unemployment line. Pause for laughter.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: Mike Pence's problem is like no one in the audience,
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: not a lot of Mike Pence fans out there. A
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: lot of Mike Pence, we should hang him, people, but
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: not a lot of Mike Pence fans.
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: A lot of people want to hang, but not with.
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: He's struggling with the with.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: So at one point, Chris Christie's talking about teachers unions
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: and he's railing against teachers unions. Speaking of railing. Yeah,
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: go on. And then he, a really sort of gross
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: attack on Joe Biden. He says, oh, well, Joe Biden's
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: sleeping with a member of the teachers union because Dr.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: Jill Biden, the first lady of the United States, is
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: a teacher and a member of a teachers union.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: I don't think it's that gross.
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: That man fucks his wife.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: What's the problem?
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: Well, it's just like it's the first lady and you're
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: just like sleeping with a member of the teachers union.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: I know you're a Christie fan.
• 23:35
  Speaker 10: What?
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: Listen, listen, this is going to be whatever comes next
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: is going to be edited out.
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: I think if more people thought Joe Biden was fucking
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: Jill Biden, maybe these age problems wouldn't be as big
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: of a deal in the polls.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: OK, how about that?
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: OK, that's a fair point.
• 23:51
  Speaker 6: Thank you.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: Anyway, well, Mike Pence heard that and said, I've got
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: to get on with this. I mean, in the debate.
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: Jesus, what are you talking about? You sound crazy.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: Well, listen to what he said.
• 24:05
  Speaker 9: Chris, you mentioned the president's situation.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: My wife isn't a member.
• 24:11
  Speaker 9: Of the teachers' union, but I've got to admit, I've
• 24:15
  Speaker 9: been sleeping with a teacher for 38 years.
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: And.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: Mike, I feel... You know what?
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: You know what?
• 24:22
  Speaker 6: Great.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: Great?
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: This is great. Look at these people. They're being sex
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: positive on a debate stage. That's unprecedented.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: Unbelievable. And then we finally come to Doug Bergen. My guy, Doug.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: He was wild. I don't know what else to say
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: about him. He like interrupted a lot. Again, someone must
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: have told him, sir, you didn't speak much last debate.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: So he just like interrupted on every single question. But
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: he didn't answer the question. He just like said something else.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: At one point, he like interrupted to say the strike
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: is happening because Joe Biden's interference in capital markets.
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: And it was like he kept doing this thing of like,
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry, but I just have to interrupt to say
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: what nobody's willing to say. A different version of what
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: you've all been saying. I'm Doug Burgum. You got Burgum.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: So just to wrap this up, one of Dana Preno's
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: last question, I think it was her last question. was
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: a little wild. Here's what she asked to wrap up
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: the debate.
• 25:21
  Speaker 8: If you all stay in the race, former President Donald
• 25:25
  Speaker 8: Trump wins the nomination. None of you have indicated that
• 25:29
  Speaker 8: you're dropping out. So, which one of you on stage
• 25:34
  Speaker 8: tonight should be voted.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: Off the island?
• 25:37
  Speaker 6: I vote Donald Trump off the island right now.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: That was it.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: There is a process by which they came up with
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: this idea. They ran it by large groups of people
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: and it made it to the debate stage.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: And you know what? Like Chris Christie, he gave it
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: the old college try there.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: He had to be called out because he did not
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: volunteer it. Stuart Varney had to come back to him
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: later and say, I saw you writing something down. What
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: did you write down?
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: So you have to understand. So what happens is Dana
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: Perino starts this question and as Reid pointed out before
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: we recorded, it's on its way to actually an important point,
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: which is, If you all stay in the race, Donald
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: Trump is the nominee. None of you can, if all
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: of you are here, none of you can succeed. What
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: is the process by which any one of you is
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: going to be the one to take on Trump?
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: And she also said like, and you're all down like
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: 40 points. Does anyone have a strategy to win?
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: But then she turns it to this, now writes someone's
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: name down. And gave Ron DeSantis his best and most
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: human moment of the night, which is like, I'm not
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: going to do that. That's not fair. Everybody put on suits.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: When I would have simply said, Doug. Doug Burgum.
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: But what's funny is as that's happening, Chris Christie's writing
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: down a name. And he's like, I agree. We shouldn't
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: be writing down any names.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: And he's like, you, Governor Christie, you've written something down.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: Tell us.
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: No, I didn't.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: No, I didn't.
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: I didn't write it. I wrote down terrorism. I wrote
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: down Chinese communists. I wrote down whatever you think I
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: needed to write down. I didn't write down one of
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: these people's names, not Doug Burgum, not this freak Doug
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: Burgum who has no business being here.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then he said, you know, Donald Trump shouldn't
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: be on the island and blah, blah, blah. And then
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: someone interrupted him, Vivek again.
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Vivek came in.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: He was like, I think Trump was great. I loved
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: Donald Trump. And then they're like, that's it. That's how
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: we're ending it. Which actually was, yeah. You guys think
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: this debate moves the needle at all for anyone? Maybe
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: Nikki Haley creeps up a little bit. Maybe she captures
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: some of that She gets to the tweens. Some of
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: that Ron DeSantis, some of the Ron DeSantis voters go
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: to Nikki. Maybe some of the Tim Scott voters, maybe
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: some of the Mike Pence, the two Mike Pence voters.
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: Let me, let me, hold on. Let me just, let me,
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: let me, let me get myself on a cable news
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: panel for a second.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: You ready for this? Yeah, yeah, let's do it.
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: Look, I think, I think, you know who won this
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: debate tonight? Donald Trump.
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: It's the titles for Dan's message box tomorrow. Why'd you
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: steal it?
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: No, I gotta rewrite it.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: Anyway, all right, let's talk about Donald Trump. Sure. Who is,
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: you know, the likely Republican nominee at this point. Fuck, fuck.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: He was at a, he gave a speech in Detroit.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: He tried to counter-program the debate. He made a big
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: deal about going to speak to auto workers and workers
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: in Detroit and blah, blah, blah. Turns out he spoke
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: at a non-union shop. Was invited by management. They make
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: car parts. It doesn't seem like there was any UAW
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: workers in the crowd. It certainly is unclear if there
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: would be. And basically, he gave this speech. It was
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: his typical bullshit. But he was really, really thirsty for
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: the endorsement of the UAW during the speech. Let's listen.
• 28:38
  Speaker 10: But your leadership should endorse me, and I will... not
• 28:43
  Speaker 10: say a bad thing about them again, and they will
• 28:45
  Speaker 10: have done their job. If they endorse me, they will
• 28:48
  Speaker 10: have the easiest labor leadership job anywhere in the country.
• 28:53
  Speaker 10: If you could speak to Sean, he's listening right now,
• 28:55
  Speaker 10: I'm sure. Sean, endorse Trump, and you can take a
• 28:59
  Speaker 10: nice two-month vacation, come back, and you guys are going
• 29:02
  Speaker 10: to be better than.
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: You ever were.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: So here's what Sean Fain, the head of the UAW,
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: had to say.
• 29:09
  Speaker 9: I find a pathetic irony that that the former president
• 29:12
  Speaker 9: is gonna hold a rally for union members at a
• 29:15
  Speaker 9: non-union business. I see no point in meeting with him
• 29:18
  Speaker 9: because I don't think the man has any bit of
• 29:21
  Speaker 9: care about what our workers stand for, what the working
• 29:24
  Speaker 9: class stands for. He serves a billionaire class and that's
• 29:26
  Speaker 9: what's wrong with this country.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: So there you have it.
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: So you're saying there's a chance.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: Really thirsty. The Detroit News was there and they interviewed
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: some people in the crowd. One person in the crowd
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: had a sign that said union members for Trump. They
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: interviewed her and she said she was not a union member.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: And then another person had a sign that said autoworkers
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: for Trump and they interviewed him and he said he
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: was not an autoworker.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: This is encouraging their fellow autoworkers to be for Trump.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: That's true.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: That's malicious as you suggest.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: What did you guys think of the Trump speech?
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: There's plenty to make fun of. I think that like
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: It's interesting watching Trump speak and then go into that debate.
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: He is trying to make this argument to try to
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: peel off some share of Biden voters in these states,
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: and I think we should take it seriously. The argument
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: that basically EVs are bad for the Midwest, EVs are
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: bad for unions, EVs are bad for American workers, especially
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: when one of the arguments that UAW is making is
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: the fact that a lot of these battery plants aren't union,
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: that this shift to electric vehicles could mean fewer union
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: shops in the United States is like, it is a
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: real and serious argument that could resonate with people, even
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: if Trump is the worst messenger for it and was
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: an incredibly anti-union, anti-worker, anti-middle class president.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: So I think the question is like, how do Democrats
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: and Biden make sure that he doesn't get away with that?
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: It's a great question.
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: So we fly in, we find another drink in for Dan.
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: I think, love it. You love his point is you
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: have to wade through. We watched the whole speech, which
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: no one else is going to do.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: And it was on Newsmax only.
• 31:10
  Speaker 10: Yes.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: And by the way, so you all know.
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: And by the way, midway through on Newsmax, they did
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: a picture and picture of a fucking fundraiser for Rudy
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: Giuliani's legal defense.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: Picture of him up there. Look like he looked like
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: he was dead. Yeah.
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: They're just going to when he dies, they just cross
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: it out. Right. Memorial Fund.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah. They alternated between that picture and then please buy
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: a gold coin. Yeah.
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Just buy gold.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: And if you buy gold, you'll get, uh, you said
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: take control of your finances. It was the slogan for
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: the gold company.
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: Physical gold.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: They make it very clear.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: It's physical gold.
• 31:36
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: Bob Menendez.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: Called him up.
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: He's going to favor his legal rights.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: Um, but if you watch the whole speech, there's a
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: ton of insanity in there, but buried in there, which
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: is what most people will see either through clips that
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: are shared or more likely in the billions of dollars
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: of ads that Trump's campaign and Republican super PACs air
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: is a very potent grievance message targeted at workers who've
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: been left behind in this economy. Now, Trump doesn't mention
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: that he is someone who was the most anti-worker president
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: in American history, who passed a tax cut that most
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: of that offense went to the rich and encouraged and
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: led to the more offshoring of American jobs, who got
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: rid of overtime pay for 8 million Americans, costing them
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: more than a billion dollars in wages. So he has
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: a record there, but what we have to take very
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: seriously is he is speaking in a language of populism
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: that works in an environment where people are very unhappy.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: All of the polling shows that we are in a
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: very fertile environment for that sort of economic nationalism and populism.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: It doesn't match up to his record, obviously, but the
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: only people who are going to make sure that that
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: is known is us, right? It's Democrats and people who
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: want to defeat Trump. The press isn't going to do it.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: It's not going to happen on its own. We're going
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: to have to make that case to fight back against
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: it and also speak to those concerns ourselves with our rhetoric.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: We can't just simply be, look at everything we've, not
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: that Joe Biden is doing this, but look at everything
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: we've done. Let me just read to you some of
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: the subsections of the Inflation Reduction Act. Even though all
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: that stuff is really good, there is a tremendous discontent.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: I think it says something about sort of the populist
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: moment we're in is that the Republican candidates were afraid
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: to criticize striking union members.
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: With the exception of Tim Scott, who was like, yeah,
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: you're asking for too much. That's all, that's what I
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: have to say. But even he.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: Walked away from his own.
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: But all of them up there, and Trump in particular,
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: in a different environment, in a different moment, the Republican
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: Party would be attacking union thugs and bosses, and why
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: are they out there? And they'll say the union members
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: are misleading the rest of the workers, but they all
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: looked at that with such trepidation. And that is a
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: moment that Democrats should own. a moment of worker empowerment,
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: a fight for higher wages. That is us, and Trump
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: is trying to co-opt it, and we're going to have
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: to fight really hard not to let that happen.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: I also think, you can just tell, he's just so
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: much more comfortable in the role of challenger than he
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: was as incumbent, right? Because his whole message, you know,
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: people would call him like a feral genius, but it's not.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: It's pretty easy.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: Who calls him that?
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: You know, all the annoying people on this guy's stuff.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: His message is easy, and it always has been. It's like,
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: The establishment is awful. Everything's fucked up. I'm the guy
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: who can fix it. I do good deals. And aren't
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: you annoyed with what the elites and everyone in Washington
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: has done to this country? Aren't you pissed? And I'm
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: the vessel for your anger, right? Like that's his whole,
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: that was his shtick in 2016. And it was complicated
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: in 2020 because he was fucking president for four years
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: and people didn't like what they saw generally. But now
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: he can be like, oh, well, I know everyone has,
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: you know, really short memories. So forget about those four years.
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: You're pissed now, and I'm the guy that's going to
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: go after the establishment. That's what he's trying to do.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: And so I think that you're right, which is you
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: can't fight that by being like, no, no, no, no,
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: everyone's wrong. Things are great. What you have to do
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: is just, as we've said a million times, like turn
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: it into a choice. If he becomes president again, this
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: is what he's going to do.
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: And hold him responsible for the problems he is claiming
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: to be the one who he can solve.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: And he will get us right back into that. I mean,
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: we just got to, that's why like every time, and
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: it's also why Donald Trump doesn't ever talk about a
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: second term agenda. All he talks about is like, you're
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: pissed about that. I'm going to fix it when I
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: get in there. It was great when I was president.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: I'm going to fix it again. But like he's not
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: laying out any fucking second term agenda because he knows
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: that his policies are unpopular.
• 35:27
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: And where they are signaling anything around his agenda, it
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: is a lower corporate tax rate to just to get
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: that out there and to just sort of shore up
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: those interests and remind everybody that, yeah, yeah, I'm going
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: to talk kooky on the on the stump. But you
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: can count on me when the when the chips are down.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: So Joe Biden, earlier than Trump, like the day before,
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: did go and become the first U.S. president to ever
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: join a picket line. And he joined striking auto workers
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: in Detroit. Here's a little sound from his visit.
• 36:08
  Speaker 10: You guys, UAW, you saved the automobile industry back in
• 36:12
  Speaker 10: 2008 and before.
• 36:14
  Speaker 9: Made a lot of sacrifices.
• 36:16
  Speaker 10: Gave up a lot.
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: And the companies were in trouble.
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: But now they're doing incredibly well.
• 36:22
  Speaker 10: And guess what?
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: You should be doing incredibly well, too. You deserve what
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: you've earned, and you've earned a hell of a lot.
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: More than you're getting paid now.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: Pretty big deal that he joined a picket line.
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, real fuck you to the writers, but they're out
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: there for months.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: You don't like suits?
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: You don't think the suits people should get a taste
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: of this Netflix action?
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: Joe Biden should have come to Hollywood and just hung
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: out outside Netflix.
• 36:48
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: Just like....
• 36:51
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: I think that these room minimums.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: I think it's great that he went. I think it's
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: a big deal. It was like, that's where he should be,
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: both physically, but also that's the best message, right? That
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: he's going to be the guy who's fighting for workers.
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: And again, it doesn't have to be, part of the
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: message is, here's the things I've done over the last
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: four years. But a big part of the message is,
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: and this is why I'm going to keep fighting. And
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: if you put me back in the White House and
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: you give me a Democratic majority, we're going to keep
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: fighting for workers. Here's the proof that we've been trying
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: and we're going to keep going. And these Republicans are
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: going to sell you out. And, you know, they had
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: the Biden campaign ran an ad today, like hitting Trump
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: for being a fake populist, which is great. And, you know,
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: so it's the right message.
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: I also think just like we're watching this debate and
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: they all just go back to like, where's Joe Biden?
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: He's in the basement. It's like, hey, hey, man, everybody's
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: watching the news. He just got back from a foreign trip.
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: He's at the UAW. He's not in his basement.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, doesn't work. One other thing happened, Dan, that you
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: alluded to at the top of the show. Yesterday, a
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: New York State Supreme Court justice ruled that Donald Trump
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: committed fraud by exaggerating his wealth and the value of
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: his assets on financial forms. Basically, Trump and his companies
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: used the false information to, they got better terms on loans,
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: insurance rates, taxes. And this happened, this was a summary
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: judgment from a judge. This is all before the fraud
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: trial actually begins. It is slated for this fall. But
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: now the trial basically focuses on how big of a
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: fine Trump will pay, what the punishment will actually be.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: If the ruling stands, basically the attorney general's office, Letitia James,
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: is seeking $ 250 million in penalties. And the judge could
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: bar and may likely bar Donald Trump and his sons
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: from running any business in New York. Should this have any...
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: Do you think this will have any effect on anyone?
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: Do you think anyone wants to... Anyway, anyone's going to
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: be swayed by the fact that the guy who wants
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: to be president was just found liable for fraud, can't
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: do business anymore, was just lying about his net worth.
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: No one watching the Republican debate because no one mentioned it.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: The fact that the guy is running to be in
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: charge of the federal budget and he was just accused
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: of fraud seems like a relevant piece of information you
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: could share with voters. I mean, just to add a
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: little more detail here about how big a deal this is,
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: as we've talked about before, your Attorney General Letitia James
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: charged Trump with these crimes. It was headed to trial.
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: She filed a motion that said the evidence of Trump's
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: fraud is so obvious it's not even worth having the
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: trial over. Like, just look at it. It's so clear,
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: like there's not even a shadow of a doubt that
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: he is guilty of fraud. So let's just rule on
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: that right now so we can get to the business
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: of penalizing him for the fraud that is so obvious.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: And that is what happened. I mean, it is a
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: huge deal. Like we could, David K. Johnson, who was a, uh,
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: very well-known, uh, tax writer for the New York times, uh,
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: was on Twitter and he suggested that this could likely
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: end with New York State repossessing Trump's properties, including his
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: apartment in Trump Tower, which is a part he still owns,
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: potentially parts of Mar-a-Lago.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: And there's, of course, like, you know, Eric Trump and
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: Donald Trump, too, in his statement. They were like, well,
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: the judge said that Mar-a-Lago was worth this much and
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: that couldn't be. And what really happened here is like
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: when Trump wanted to lower his taxes, he would claim
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: a low valuation for property. when he wanted to get
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: cheap loans, he would inflate the valuation. So basically what
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: he was doing is he was just changing the valuation
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: depending on whether he wanted loans or whether he wanted
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: to pay lower taxes. Not everyone gets to do that.
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: And some of this wasn't just subjective, like how much
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: is Mar-a-Lago? He lied about things like the square footage
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: of various apartments, right? These are things that don't change.
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: Do you think Biden should, like, does the Biden campaign
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: do anything with that?
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. I mean, they don't have to
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: do it right now, but over the course of time,
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: it's a bit like, I think that a core part
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: of their message is going to be about that we
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: don't want to return to the chaos and corruption of Trump.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: And you're going to have to make that case. And
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: a judge finding him guilty of fraud for inflating his
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: assets by $ 2 billion seems relevant.
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: After a jury in New York found him liable for
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: raping Eugene Carroll?
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: Part of it is that Trump is not in this
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: for you. He's in it for himself and his rich friends.
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: And this is a piece of evidence to that.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: That is key because during his speech today, he was like,
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: you know, Joe Biden, Crooked Joe is just out there
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: enriching himself because he like makes up stories about how,
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: you know, Biden, China money and all that kind of stuff.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: So he said that he's like, but I'm in it
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: to help you because he, so he knows.
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: He said, I'm in it to enrich you, not myself.
• 41:27
  Speaker 10: Right.
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: I didn't need to do this. I was having so
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: much fun living my life and I just did this
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: for you and I'm getting the shit kicked out of me,
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: but now I'm here. I could have done something else. Meanwhile.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: But you're doing it to stay out of fucking jail, man.
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: Well, now that's the thing. I'd say, look, one, one
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: thing that comes across, I think it was true in the,
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: in the, in the meet the press interview. It was
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: true in, the rally that we watched. He's running. The
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: threat of prison hangs over him, sharpens the senses.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It's made him a little more disciplined in his message.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: It has.
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: But I will say, like, yeah, there's political implications for
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: the fact that they just found that we can go
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: right to the damages phase for the fact that.
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: He's a fraud.
• 42:02
  Speaker 6: Sure.
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: They're coming for his money. And he's been lying about
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: his worth this whole time. And that has to be
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: genuinely terrifying for him. There's a real threat that before
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: he can ever get back to power... even if he
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: does become president, whatever, that he doesn't have the ability
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: to use politics to stop these people from taking his apartment,
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: from taking his wealth, from forcing him to actually confront
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: what his actual net worth is.
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: That is scared.
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: The only way out is winning.
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: I honestly think that if he had to choose between
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: being rich and wearing a jumpsuit, going to jail and
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: then coming out rich or losing all that he has,
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: I don't think that's a close call for him.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: I don't think he wants either. Who would? Who would?
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: In fairness.
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: No, and look, he's, I should say, he's a little
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: more disciplined. He's also still talking about windmills and whales
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: and confusing Jeb Bush and all that kind of stuff.
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's also true.
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: That's also part of it.
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: He really, the whales thing. He's sort of got the
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: 16 message, which is me against the establishment on behalf
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: of you, right? That was sort of the message and
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: it was all bullshit and stuff like that. But that's
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: what he did in 16. And then in 20, he
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: was sort of, like in a rabbit hole of fucking,
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: you know, right wing YouTube comments.
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah. And sort of specific flourishes.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: Right, right.
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: This was a bit more like the speech today was
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: a bit more sort of a clean, the parts where
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: the parts that were the message around the working class
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: basically take that kind of broader message that he was
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: doing for a long time. And he basically says like,
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: I have been fighting for years to take on the
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: elites on behalf of the working class, which is a change. Uh,
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: and which, you know, yeah, I would.
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: Just, like, to understand the environment that this is happening in.
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: This is a much, much, much more fertile political environment
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: for Trump's message than it was in 2016. 2016, economy
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: was doing fine. People weren't particularly grumpy. Trump largely won
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: because of complacency in a sense that things were fine
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: after eight years of Obama. Now there's a Pew poll
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: that came out a couple of weeks ago that it's
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: part of the regular series that looks at how people's
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: feelings on the political system in this country and the
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: percentage of people who hate both parties. Highest in history.
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: People who are exhausted and frustrated by politics. Highest in history.
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: People who think politics are corrupt and politicians are corrupt.
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: Highest in history. Like we are, people are angry and
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: they think the system is not working and they're mad
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: at both parties. And that's going to have very real consequences.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: This is not the 2020 environment.
• 44:27
  Speaker 10: Right.
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: And we shouldn't overstate like, and they don't like Donald Trump.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: Most people don't like Donald Trump.
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: They do not.
• 44:31
  Speaker 6: They don't.
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: More people, Donald Trump, for all the crap about Joe
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: Biden's favorable ratings. They're better than Donald Trump's.
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: For most working class people, this isn't working. Like, we
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: should just get all that out there. But, again, an
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: election in 2020 that was decided by 40,000 votes across
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: three states, it doesn't take much. It doesn't take much. So,
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: you know, for all the silliness and pointlessness of the
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: Republican debate, who seems to be the most likely nominee,
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: Donald Trump, is out there and is, you know, going
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: to be as tough to beat as he's been in
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: the last election. So, Everyone should get to work. Loadsaveamerica.com. Okay.
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: We were going to call Tommy, who's going to go
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  Speaker 1: no Tommy at the debate, which honestly, good for Tommy. Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Don't go to the Reagan Library unless you have to.
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  Speaker 4: That's an old saying in my house.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think he won that one. We do a
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  Speaker 2: Oh my God.
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  Speaker 4: That was good.
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  Speaker 1: You don't need that many apples. Also, Pod Save America
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  Speaker 1: Crooked fans. Tomorrow, I, but not me, John Lovett, will
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• 46:37
  Speaker 1: 2 p.m.? 4 p.m. 4 p.m. It's not 2 p.m.
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  Speaker 4: AMA.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Lovett just learned of this. Lovett, you're going to
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  Speaker 4: Here's the thing, here's the thing. It was a hate watch,
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And that was nice.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I love the way we just throw around Discord as
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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• 47:22
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• 47:25
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• 47:28
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• 47:31
  Speaker 1: So when you hear from Lovett and Tommy and I
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: on Tuesday, we could be in a government shutdown. A
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