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The Ron Verb Show - Full Broadcast from Wednesday, 10/14/26 · Ron Verb

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  Speaker 1: Ron Verb on News Radio 570 WKVN.
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  Speaker 2: Well, how about that Guardians game last night? Didn't turn
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  Speaker 2: out how we hoped it to turn out, but it
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  Speaker 2: is what it is. We live for another day, as
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  Speaker 2: they like to say. Anyway, good afternoon. 3.05 in the afternoon.
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  Speaker 2: News Radio 570 WKVN and Ron Verb. We are underway
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  Speaker 2: here until 6 o'clock tonight on this Wednesday, October 14th.
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  Speaker 2: We are at 65 degrees. It's kind of an overcast,
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  Speaker 2: drizzly day in my neck of the woods. Overcast and drizzly,
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  Speaker 2: but I don't know, there's something about it. I don't
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  Speaker 2: dislike it. I mean, it's overcast, a little bit drizzly,
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  Speaker 2: 65 degrees, but that's not bad. That's not bad. It's
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  Speaker 2: comfortable for my neck of the woods here. Anyway, good
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  Speaker 2: afternoon from NewsRadio 570 WQEN. And let's see. Hello, you're
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  Speaker 2: on the air.
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  Speaker 3: Ron, good afternoon, sir.
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  Speaker 4: How are you?
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  Speaker 2: I am doing well. I was just thinking about you.
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  Speaker 2: You know why I was thinking about you, Rich? I
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  Speaker 2: was just looking at my screen here, my computer screen,
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  Speaker 2: and in my first commercial break, you'll be happy to
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  Speaker 2: know that the commercial for your eye doctor is on,
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  Speaker 2: Mandy Ward.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, fantastic.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I know.
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  Speaker 3: My wife and I have already made appointments to go
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  Speaker 3: see her. We're going to see her on Pearl Harbor Day, actually.
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  Speaker 3: I made it easy so I could remember it.
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  Speaker 2: There you go. Great.
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  Speaker 6: She's really good.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, if you want a really good eye doctor,
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  Speaker 3: I can't recommend her highly enough.
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  Speaker 4: She's really good.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and she used to be in Boardman, and then
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  Speaker 2: she left there, and now she's joined Marine Matthews Eye Associates.
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  Speaker 2: Marine Matthews is just phenomenal. She's just such a wonderful woman.
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  Speaker 2: And let's see, you have optometrists and ophthalmologists because she
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  Speaker 2: does surgery, too.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I see a ton of scripts from her. She
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  Speaker 3: does a ton of cataracts and things like that.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. But she is such a wonderful, wonderful human being,
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  Speaker 2: just a great family. The entire family is just wonderful
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  Speaker 2: human beings. And now her daughter has joined. the practice
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  Speaker 2: in Boardman, and she's an ophthalmologist as well, obviously tests
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  Speaker 2: your eyes and obviously does the procedures. And then you
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  Speaker 2: had always told me over the years how great an
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  Speaker 2: eye Dr. Manny Ward is, and now Manny Ward was
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  Speaker 2: in Boardman. Now she has opened up an office in
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  Speaker 2: Salem with Matthews Eye Group, which is right there by
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  Speaker 2: the Walmarts. in Salem and I met her and she
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  Speaker 2: is absolutely everything you said. And like you told me,
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  Speaker 2: if you need to get your eyes examined for some
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  Speaker 2: glasses or something like that, she's the one is what
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  Speaker 2: you've told me, right?
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  Speaker 4: Well, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, like I go for a diabetic eye exam
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  Speaker 3: and she does a very thorough comprehensive exam. And it
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  Speaker 3: was getting.
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  Speaker 6: Harder to find.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not going to name names, obviously. But
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  Speaker 3: there's a lot of these chain places that you go to,
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  Speaker 3: and you're just on an assembly line.
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  Speaker 4: They come in.
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  Speaker 3: They give you an okay eye exam or something like that.
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  Speaker 3: She did a very comprehensive, thorough eye exam. And it's
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  Speaker 3: getting harder and harder to find people that are good
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  Speaker 3: at their profession, I think. And she's excellent at what
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  Speaker 3: she does.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's right. And so you don't get that.
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  Speaker 2: It's these big chains that are owned by investment companies,
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  Speaker 2: that kind of stuff. But you do get that with Matthews.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, like I said, I'm not going to name names,
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  Speaker 3: but I know where I was going to see her before.
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  Speaker 3: And I believe the person that founded that particular practice
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  Speaker 3: sold out to a private equity firm.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And it's just, you know, things change. I mean, when
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  Speaker 3: you've got Wall Street running it instead of, you know,
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  Speaker 3: your local doctor and your local optometrist.
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  Speaker 4: Things change.
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  Speaker 3: And it's usually not for the better, and it wasn't
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  Speaker 3: in this case. So when you told me she was
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  Speaker 3: going down there and I was able to find her
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  Speaker 3: and hook her up and get a client, I was
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  Speaker 3: very happy.
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  Speaker 2: What were the odds of that? You were saying, boy,
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  Speaker 2: you were rich in pharmacists. Tell me my eye doctor
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  Speaker 2: wasn't to where this place she works sold out to
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  Speaker 2: these investment people. I can't find her.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I was visiting with Dr. Matthews on some eye issues,
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  Speaker 2: and then she said, oh, I just hired Mandy Ward.
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  Speaker 2: And my first call before I even got out of
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  Speaker 2: the office was to Richard, a pharmacist, to say, I
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  Speaker 2: found your eye doctor. That's right. And you were so happy.
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  Speaker 3: My first call after I hung up with you was
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  Speaker 3: immediately to Matthews' office to find out where she was
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  Speaker 3: at and to make an appointment.
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  Speaker 2: There you go. Anyway, small world. Good afternoon. What seems
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  Speaker 2: to be on your mind, Richard?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I don't know if you saw this or not,
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  Speaker 3: and I did just recently send it to you, but
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  Speaker 3: on WKBN, they had an article, I think it was
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  Speaker 3: maybe last night, that says that the surprise, surprise, shock,
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  Speaker 3: I know this will be shocking to you, but the
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  Speaker 3: Boardman schools are now under fiscal caution. And the reason
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  Speaker 3: they are under fiscal caution is that by fiscal year 28,
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  Speaker 3: now fiscal year 28 will start, I believe, for them
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  Speaker 3: usually like July 1st of 2027. Fiscal year 28 will
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  Speaker 3: be the year that starts July 2027 and runs to
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  Speaker 3: the end of June of 2028. That will be fiscal
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  Speaker 3: year 28 for them.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's a ways off.
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  Speaker 8: Not really.
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  Speaker 3: If you think about it, it's about a year. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: we're in fiscal year 27 right now. So this is
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  Speaker 3: the following fiscal year. We're about 25%, 30% through fiscal
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  Speaker 3: year 27.
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  Speaker 4: So this will.
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  Speaker 3: Start July 1st next year, starts fiscal year 28. They're
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  Speaker 3: $ 2. 4 million in the.
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  Speaker 7: Hole in 2028.
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  Speaker 3: The following year, if they do nothing and they continue
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  Speaker 3: to spend like drunken sailors, like apparently they are, The
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  Speaker 3: following year, fiscal year 2029, which will run from July
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  Speaker 3: 1st of 2028 to June 30th of 2029, they are
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  Speaker 3: $ 9. 2 million in the hole in fiscal year 2029, assuming
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  Speaker 3: they don't change anything. So I believe it was the
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  Speaker 3: state of Ohio came in and said, look, you guys
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  Speaker 3: got to do something. And what do you think the
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  Speaker 3: main way that they plan to solve this problem is, Ron?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I would think if you and I all
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  Speaker 3: of a sudden looked at our bills and our checking
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  Speaker 3: account and we didn't have much money in it, we
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  Speaker 3: would probably have to what? Look at?
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  Speaker 2: You know, folks, this is what I love about this guy.
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  Speaker 2: He's asking the great lawyer aspect of it. You're asking
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  Speaker 2: the question you already know the answer to. Well, if
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  Speaker 2: you're asking me if that was the situation in my household,
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  Speaker 2: what would I do? I would have to make cuts.
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  Speaker 3: If you started every month that the credit card bill
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  Speaker 3: comes in, you'd look and Lisa's out there spending, you know,
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  Speaker 3: she's spending twice what Ron Verbe's making, right?
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: What Ron and Lisa are bringing in. And all of
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  Speaker 3: a sudden, you know, hey, these bills are more than
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  Speaker 3: I can afford to pay every month.
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  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 3: You'd probably look at Lisa and yourself and say, hey,
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  Speaker 3: we've got to cut our spending, right?
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: We've got to bring our spending in more in line
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  Speaker 3: with our income. And I think that's what most people
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  Speaker 3: in this, you know, or... We're going to just continue
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  Speaker 3: to have a credit card bill, and the interest on
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  Speaker 3: that's going to pile up, and eventually we're not going
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  Speaker 3: to be in a good place.
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  Speaker 2: So can I assume, basically, on what you're telling me,
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  Speaker 2: when the Boardman schools are looking at this situation, and
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  Speaker 2: obviously they're cutting spending, right?
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  Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 3: Ron, what do you think this is? You act like
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  Speaker 3: you're talking to people that believe that the taxpayers aren't suckers.
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  Speaker 2: They know they're suckers. So what would the answer be?
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  Speaker 4: Well, you need a new levy, of course.
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  Speaker 3: The levy right now, it says the district is also
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  Speaker 3: counting on a $ 4. 6 million renewable levy on the November ballot.
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  Speaker 3: Officials say they'll need other funding sources if voters reject it.
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  Speaker 3: If the levy doesn't pass, how are we getting that
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  Speaker 3: $ 4. 6 million? How are we getting ourselves back into the
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  Speaker 3: black or back to even? Niefer, who is the superintendent, says....
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  Speaker 2: So you're saying on the upcoming November ballots, there's going
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  Speaker 2: to be a 4.6 million school levy?
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  Speaker 3: It says it's a 4.6 million renewable levy on the
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  Speaker 3: November ballot. Now, I don't know whether that means it's
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  Speaker 3: a renewable levy, one that needs renewed, and if it
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  Speaker 3: doesn't pass, they're really screwed, or if that's a new one.
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  Speaker 3: I would have to assume if it's a renewable levy,
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  Speaker 3: it's one that's already.
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  Speaker 2: On the books.
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  Speaker 4: But I don't see how that really.
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  Speaker 3: really helps them. I mean, it's a piece, but the problem,
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  Speaker 3: you know, it says even if district fines are savings,
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  Speaker 3: the bigger question is asked whether those cuts will be enough.
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  Speaker 3: And they go through a couple things that, you know,
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  Speaker 3: 72,000 in supplemental programs, 50,000 intervention programs. You're $ 9. 2 million
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  Speaker 3: in the hole in two years. Alarm bells should be
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  Speaker 3: going off. I mean, I would think the board would
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  Speaker 3: be meeting two or three times a month trying to
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  Speaker 3: figure out how they're going to cut enough to get
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  Speaker 3: back into the black. But I guarantee you, there's not
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  Speaker 3: a doubt in my mind that that thought has never
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  Speaker 3: entered the equation. And I believe, didn't they just renew
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  Speaker 3: the teacher's contract? They just gave them a new contract?
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  Speaker 3: And they were touting how they didn't really get many
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  Speaker 3: raises or anything like that, but I think they gave
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  Speaker 3: them an extra two or three days off. Because, you know,
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  Speaker 3: when you still make the same amount of money and
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  Speaker 3: you work less, I guess that's not a raise when
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  Speaker 3: you're in the public sector. That's not a raise. You're
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  Speaker 3: working less and you're getting the same amount of money. That,
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  Speaker 3: to me, I would consider that a raise, wouldn't you?
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  Speaker 2: Well, let me just back up here. The idea that
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  Speaker 2: this can just continue to go on, and I'm not
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  Speaker 2: talking about rhythm. but I'm talking about additional levies, is
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  Speaker 2: absolute insanity. I mean, when I hear all of this,
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  Speaker 2: I never hear anybody talk about the stress it's putting
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  Speaker 2: on homeowners like I talk about so often. Young people
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  Speaker 2: being able to afford to buy a home or older
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  Speaker 2: people staying in their home and everybody in between. I
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  Speaker 2: never hear anybody really talking about their particular situation because
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  Speaker 2: the reality is they don't care. And I make it
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  Speaker 2: very clear to people, you know, these people that think
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  Speaker 2: that they're great members of the community because they support
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  Speaker 2: all of these levies and they're somehow more connected, more informed,
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  Speaker 2: better than you because they support all of this stuff.
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  Speaker 2: They they're not going to be there saying when they're
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  Speaker 2: foreclosing on your house because you can't make the property
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  Speaker 2: taxes and you have to move. They throw you out
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  Speaker 2: of your own home, even if it's paid for because
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  Speaker 2: you can't pay the property taxes. They're these great community
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  Speaker 2: people that love the community so much that support all
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  Speaker 2: these levies. They're not going to be there to help
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  Speaker 2: you pay your taxes. They're not going to be there
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  Speaker 2: to do anything for you. You follow what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, this is the economic reality, and this is
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  Speaker 2: what I say to people, and I want you all
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  Speaker 2: to hear this. It doesn't matter to me whether you're on,
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  Speaker 2: and I see this happen. You get people that don't
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  Speaker 2: vote or vote for this stuff. They're both on Social Security.
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  Speaker 2: Then the husband or wife dies, and your household income
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  Speaker 2: is cut in half because somebody died, and that part
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  Speaker 2: of the Social Security coming into your household income is
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  Speaker 2: now gone. I also see this happen with people that
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  Speaker 2: are employed, that are able to make their bills, and
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  Speaker 2: then somebody loses their job or gets laid off or
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  Speaker 2: their company closes down or their company decides to move.
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  Speaker 2: And now that person loses their job. I'm talking working people,
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  Speaker 2: and now there's just one person working. Now all of
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  Speaker 2: a sudden, they're in the same dilemma as old people.
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  Speaker 2: And I give you one other scenario that could happen
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  Speaker 2: to each and every one of you. Now, this is
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  Speaker 2: outside of just being a senior citizen. I'm talking everybody else.
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  Speaker 2: No matter what age you are, somebody gets sick and
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  Speaker 2: is unable to work. And now your household income is
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  Speaker 2: cut in half. These people that are great community people
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  Speaker 2: that are out there saying, if you don't support the levy,
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  Speaker 2: you're not as good a member of the community as
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  Speaker 2: we are. You don't understand. I hear this all the time.
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  Speaker 2: You don't understand. We're community-oriented. We love the community. We
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  Speaker 2: love our children. And you're almost viewed as the enemy.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm here to tell you something. They're never there
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  Speaker 2: for when the crap hits the fan with each and
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  Speaker 2: every one of you. And I like to point out
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  Speaker 2: these scenarios to all of you because I sit here
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  Speaker 2: and get the emails from people just like you who
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  Speaker 2: fall into these situations, who are stunned and shocked by
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  Speaker 2: that you don't own your home. You think you own it,
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  Speaker 2: even if it's paid off, you don't. If you don't
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  Speaker 2: pay those taxes, they take it from you. They take it,
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  Speaker 2: you get out, they take it and they sell it.
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  Speaker 2: And you're standing there saying, where am I supposed to live?
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  Speaker 2: And all these great community people, guess what? They're nowhere
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  Speaker 2: to be seen. They don't care. Their attitude is, well,
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  Speaker 2: you can't afford to live here anymore, but I've lived
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  Speaker 2: here all my life. Doesn't matter. You can't afford to
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  Speaker 2: live here anymore. This is the arrogance I see from
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  Speaker 2: these people. And so I don't deny that there are
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  Speaker 2: things that, as I say, and I'm going to tell
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  Speaker 2: you all this again, save your powder on your property
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  Speaker 2: taxes for the following things. You need it. You need
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  Speaker 2: your police department. You need your fire department, ambulances, and
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  Speaker 2: your road departments. Save any increases in your property taxes
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  Speaker 2: for those entities. Because you need those people to be
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  Speaker 2: able to buy trucks to plow your street and salt them.
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  Speaker 2: You need police cars or more expensive fire trucks. These
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  Speaker 2: are your essential services in your community. So if you
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  Speaker 2: have to make a sacrifice, make it for that.
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  Speaker 3: You know what's amazing if you think about it, though?
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  Speaker 2: What?
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  Speaker 3: If you add up the money that is spent on
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  Speaker 3: all of those three things, police, fire, road, for the
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  Speaker 3: typical community.
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  Speaker 2: It's nothing compared to schools.
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  Speaker 3: It still doesn't come close to what the schools are
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  Speaker 3: sucking up.
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  Speaker 2: That is 100% correct. It's nowhere close. But I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I know that I talk about this a lot, and
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  Speaker 2: I know many of you get frustrated with it. But
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  Speaker 2: here is the reality. And I don't deny the following things.
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  Speaker 2: I do not deny the following. Does Canfield need a
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  Speaker 2: new middle school? Absolutely. It's a dump. But I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to tell you, I have a serious problem with the
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  Speaker 2: fact of this, how the state does the funding. So
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  Speaker 2: if you're a so-called wealthier community, you get less state
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  Speaker 2: tax dollars. These are your state tax dollars, money you
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  Speaker 2: paid to the state. Now the state owns them. But,
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  Speaker 2: you know, the money taken from you. But because you're
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  Speaker 2: supposedly a wealthier district, we're only going to give you
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  Speaker 2: 10 or 20 percent for the building of a new
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  Speaker 2: school versus we'll give 70 or 80 percent if you're Youngstown.
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  Speaker 2: You follow the equation?
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  Speaker 3: 70 or 80.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, or 90.
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  Speaker 3: It's probably closer to 90.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 2: So because if you're, this formula is wrong. And trust me,
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  Speaker 2: all of you listening, I will talk to Dave Thomas
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  Speaker 2: about it once we get beyond the election and what
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  Speaker 2: we can do to try to solve, fix this problem.
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  Speaker 2: But this is the reality. This is totally and completely
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  Speaker 2: out of control, and I'm here to say with no
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  Speaker 2: end in sight. There is absolutely no end in sight
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  Speaker 2: to this. They will price all of you out of
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  Speaker 2: your home. And I don't give a damn if you're
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  Speaker 2: a senior citizen. But senior citizens today, on your Social Security,
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  Speaker 2: you got a 3.6% cost of living increase. Are you okay?
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  Speaker 2: Do you know what the rate of inflation was? 3.7%.
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  Speaker 2: So your cola, and be thankful that you got that,
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  Speaker 2: does not keep pace with inflation. But it's better than nothing.
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  Speaker 2: But the reality is, you know, a lot of that coal,
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  Speaker 2: if you're on Social Security, that'll be made up with
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  Speaker 2: whatever your Medicare costs are and what have you. So
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  Speaker 2: needless to say, this is where we are economically when
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  Speaker 2: you bring this up. And I get on this constantly. If,
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  Speaker 2: like at my own house, the property tax is like
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  Speaker 2: $ 430 a month. So if somebody buys my home, in
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  Speaker 2: addition to the cost of the mortgage, which would be substantial,
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  Speaker 2: there's an additional $ 430. This makes your home more... Stand by, Rich.
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  Speaker 2: Just bear with me, all right? Because this is an
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  Speaker 2: important topic with an important man on the end of
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  Speaker 2: the line. The rest of you callers, stand by. We're
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: getting to you. I appreciate you calling. Hi, this is
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: Ron Burr. And so my point, Rich, is to all
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: of these people that are pushing this stuff, and I'm
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: sincere when I say this, you don't know the harm
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: that you're doing because you are making it harder for
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: younger people to live the same lifestyle you are living.
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: You are making it more difficult for so many of
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: them to do that because the property taxes on a house.
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: Are becoming so damn high monthly in addition to what
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: the payment will be. So you have an inflated price
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: of a house, so you have to borrow more money
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: and your house payment could be 1500 to 2000 a month.
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: Now you throw on $ 500 a month in property taxes.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: I mean, these are unreasonable numbers for your children and
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: younger people to enjoy the same lifestyle you did. So
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: all of you folks that think you're better community people
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: because you push for all of this stuff because you
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: love the system or the schools, don't realize the harm
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: you are doing to children as they become adults in
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: being able to afford a home. They are not because
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: the property tax burden is too high and you're continuing
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: to raise it with no end in sight. And as
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: I say, all it takes is somebody who's working and
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: somebody loses a job, They lose their house. I mean,
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: we do have major recessions. We do have them where
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: companies close down, where people lose their jobs. And I
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: can't say this enough to all. I don't know where
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: AI is heading. But I just heard yesterday, Rich, and
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: perhaps you heard this, where Kroger cut 3,000 jobs because
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: of technology.
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: I sent it to you this morning. At the same time,
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: but here's the same time, and I know there was
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: a guy that was putting new pharmacy registers in my
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: pharmacy about a month ago. And he told me at
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: that time, we started talking about stuff, and he said
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: that Kroger is building a brand new facility in Bengaluru, India.
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: to offshore a lot of the jobs that they're the
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: 3000 people that they're laying off here. A lot of
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: those jobs are going to move over to India because
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: they can hire them there for 10 cents on the dollar.
• 19:24
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: But so, so my, my point is this and just
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: bear with me, all of you, I say it, I'm
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: repetitious with it. I understand. I want the very best
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: for all of you. I want you to have a
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: good life. I want you to be happy. I want
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: you to enjoy your life. I want you to stay
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: healthy and live a long life. But I'm telling you,
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: the system is making it more and more difficult for
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: that to be a reality. I don't want to see
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: people that are younger than me have a difficult time
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: achieving some of the American dream of being able to
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: afford a home to call their own. I don't want
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: to go along with this, you'll own nothing and be happy,
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: that you'll rent all your life. This is nonsense. But
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: the people that continue to push this stuff, and I
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: can't tell you enough, you have got to get off
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: your ass and get out and vote this stuff down.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: All I do is, in my situation, I talk to
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: Dave Thomas. I say, what can we do to solve
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: this problem, this funding formula? And he's one of the
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: best state reps out there. And we've got to solve
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: this problem. The answer isn't, We're not doing anything on
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: that problem and you just continue to pay more. So
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: once again, if you pass a lot of this stuff
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: and you lose your job because of AI or you
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: lose your job because your company closes down in a
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: working household, all of a sudden you will say, geez,
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: that guy on the radio was right. Now you can't
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: afford your house payments. Now you can't afford to stay
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: in the house that you bought and you lose everything.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: They foreclose on you. or you don't pay your taxes
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: and then they come and say, well, out you go.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: This is the economic reality for working people, and this happens,
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: and this is what happens to senior citizens when some
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: of them die. So if you're asking me, will I
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: vote for the MRDD levy? Absolutely not. Absolutely not. It
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: is ridiculous how much they're asking for.
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: It's only $ 84 per 100,000, the MRDD levy.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: On top of what you're already paying.
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: You don't want to give them another $ 400 to take
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: care of approximately 1,000, 1,200 people that they service?
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: No, I don't.
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: When they're spending $ 105 million a year, their budget plus
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: what these people get from Medicaid and state and federal grants?
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: No, I don't want to. It's ridiculous. I mean, that
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: MRDD levy is ridiculous how much you're asking for. And
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: they're going after, oh, people always vote for this stuff.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: And can you imagine? Just bear with me. Rich is
• 22:04
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• 22:07
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  Speaker 2: So as I go on with Rich, I mean, that's
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: the point I try to make just so that I
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: can bring it home to each and every one of you.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: When you think, well, it's not going to bother me.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: It's not going to affect me. Life can change dramatically.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: You can get sick anytime. You know, as I say,
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: my wife works in a cancer nurse. And so you
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: can get sick at any age, oncology, I should say,
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: at any age. And life changes dramatically as far as
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: your job and your income. Your spouse can die, whether
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: you're on Social Security or working. There's so many variables
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: that when you're living on the edge financially can wipe
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: you out in the blink of an eye. And all
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: of these people who think they're better than you because
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: they care about the kids and the community more than
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: you do, don't realize they will not be there for
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: when you lose your home. They will not be there
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: for the share of sale when you're watching your property
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: taken from you. This is the reality that is getting
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: worse and worse as the burden of property taxes becomes
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: higher and higher and higher. And I personally am sick
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: and damn tired of saying, oh, well, because you're a
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: wealthier community, the state's only going to give you a
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: small percentage of what it would cost to build a
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: new school. The answer isn't, so go ahead and vote
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: for a levy and pay for it anyway. The answer
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: is we've got to fix that formula because it's just
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: wrong and it's unfair. But this is where we are
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: on this kind of stuff, right? Just based on where
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: property taxes are right now. I'm not talking about any
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: additional levies. I'm talking about right now. That's why I
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: sit here and say, you need your police, you need
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: your fire, you need your road department, you need your ambulances.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: Save any additional money that you could possibly spare for
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: those services because they are the most vital services. And
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: as Rich pointed out, that is a sliver of your
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: tax dollars compared to what the schools take. The cuts
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: are a reality that have to happen in a school
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: system because otherwise they're saying you're going to make cuts
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: in your household or you can't afford to live here anymore.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: I'm done. You take it away, Rich.
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: Here's what never happens in the schools, okay?
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: Never, ever.
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: Until three levy attempts fail, that's when they will start
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: to look at cutting expenses. If you owned a small
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: business and your revenue was down or your expenses had
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: gone up a lot more than your revenue and you
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: weren't making payroll, okay, or your expenses were starting to
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: be more than what pushing you to bankruptcy, the smart
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: thing to do if you were a business guy would
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: be to say, hey, look, I'm cutting my salary. I'm
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: going to have to ask all the rest of you
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: to cut yours. And you know that really good health
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: care plan we have? We're going to have to go
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: with a less expensive health care plan. That never happens
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: in government. The school system, if you ever, and please
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: call up your school treasurer and ask him to send
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: you a copy. They can email it to you of
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: their health care contract. Usually it's with Blue Cross Blue
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: Shield in the state of Ohio. That's where most of
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: them go with. And take a look at the benefits
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: that they have. Maybe, you know, small deductibles. Most of
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: us have $ 3, 000, $ 4, 000, $ 5, 000, $ 6, 000 deductibles now.
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: Not school employees.
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: School employees, you're looking at maybe $ 500, 000, $ 700, 000 tops. Then
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: after you meet the deductible, it's not $ 80, 000, $ 20, 000, or $ 70, 000,
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: $ 30, 000 like we have.
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, no.
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: It's $ 90, 000, $ 10, 000. Until you hit a max out-of-pocket that's
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: usually maybe $ 1, 000 or $ 1, 200.
• 26:57
  Speaker 7: Right?
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: That's why my local school district, the last time I
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: looked at South Range for family coverage, it was costing,
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: I think it was around $ 38, 000 a year per employee
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: to provide them with family coverage. Now, they were paying 10%
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: or 15% of that cost. The employee was paying 10%
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: or 15% of that. So the school district wasn't on
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: the hook for the entire $ 38, 000, but it was on
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: the hook for, say, $ 34, 000. You never see the richness
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: of these plans cut back. You never see the superintendent say, hey,
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: you know, something's going on here. You know, I'm going
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: to set the example. I'm going to take a 15%
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: or 20% pay cut. No, no, no, that would never happen.
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: Or maybe give up the annuity that they have or
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: the car allowance or the cell phone allowance, things that
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: the rest of us don't get in our jobs. You'll
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: never see that happen in the school side. It's ridiculous.
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: If people started pulling contracts and looking at the money
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: that they spend, you go to a football game. I
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: remember we were at a football game a couple weeks ago,
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: and there were a couple teachers sitting near us.
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: Actually, Friday night.
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: I just saw one Friday night. Went to a South
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: Range Niles game.
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: I look over. One of the old.
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: Second-grade teachers is sitting there.
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: And I thought, oh, that's nice.
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: He came to the game.
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: And then it dawned on me, oh, no, no, no.
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: He probably got paid to come to the game. He's
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: a paid chaperone. Because that's what they do. You know,
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: you don't pay, not like a taxpayer, you don't go
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: pay eight bucks for a ticket, walk in the game,
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: spend another 10, 15 bucks on refreshments, whatever.
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, no.
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: You get paid to go sit in the stands, you
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: get free admission, and then you get paid to go watch.
• 28:39
  Speaker 13: The football game.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't want to get in the weeds
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: on that kind of stuff. I don't know the answer
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: to that. I'm just saying, I'm just saying in general,
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: this is stuff to be concerned about.
• 28:49
  Speaker 7: And....
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: I said it before. Can you imagine if you're in
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: Canfield and you pass the MRDD levy, you pass the
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: Canfield School levy, what your taxes would go to, where
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: they would go from where they are now?
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: Well, it's real simple. Go to Ralph Meacham's website. And
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: here's the other thing to remember. The value that you
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: just paid the taxes on a month and a half
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: ago or last month, since they were due in September,
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: that value has increased by 20% to 30%. I know
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: mine went up, I think, $ 60, 000 or $ 70, 000 over what
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: it is this year. My value next year is 20%
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: to 30% higher than it was this year.
• 29:29
  Speaker 7: So let's say, like right.
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: Now, I'm looking at the– there's actually a Vindicator editorial
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: today on the MCBDD levy.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: And what's it say?
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: And it says, this levy will bring in $ 15 million, $ 15, 522, 964.
• 29:42
  Speaker 8: $ 15, 500, 000.
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: $ 15, 500, 000 every year for five years.
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: What are they doing? I mean, because it doesn't sound bad,
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: 2.4 mils.
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: That's $ 15, 500, 000.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: Out of your pocket.
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: Like I said, they.
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: Only service maybe 1,000, 1,200 people. They don't service a
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: ton of people. That's a lot of money. You start
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: adding up all the money that that agency is spending.
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: And I was talking to somebody that's really involved in
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: local politics, and I said, what can we do to
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: get people to not vote for this levy and to
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: get people to be against it?
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: He said, good luck.
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: He said, that board that runs MCBDD knows that the
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: people will vote for this, and they don't care. They
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: do not care. The people that are on the board
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: of that agency do not care at all about the taxpayers.
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: The taxpayer, they just figured that, you know, it's for
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: disabled people. People typically consider them, you know, mentally disabled,
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: what have you, and they feel sorry for them.
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: So they just automatically, oh, you look at.
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: The go, you go in the booth, it's only 2.4 mils.
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: Ah, check. You know, what's that going to cost me?
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: Not realizing you just basically took an extra $ 200 to
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: $ 400 or $ 500 out of your pocket to throw at
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: this agency who has no cost control. Cost control in
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: the government does not exist like it does in your
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: budget or my budget, because they know they don't have
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: to have cost control. They will always come back to us,
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: and eventually they will get more of our money. And
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: it's time to just start saying no and.
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: Blow it up.
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: That's the only way you will ever fix it is
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: to blow it up. Let some of these systems start
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: to fail and go to the state. Let the state
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: come in and make the cuts that these local boards
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: of education, developmental disabilities, what have you, they will not
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: make those cuts. We put weak people on these school
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: boards and basically every other board. And if you remember
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: last week, every time I was talking to Geno about stuff,
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: he's like, well, this board, that board, this board. And
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: I realized, Geno and the other two numbnuts that are
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: there with him don't really have much power at the
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: county level because the boards run everything. Geno, Carol, and
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: Anthony didn't buy that Williamson School. The Port Authority bought
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: it because the County Board of Elections has a board
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: that said, we're going to buy this building. The only
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: thing the county can say is we're not going to
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: give you so much money to spend on it, but
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: they get to buy whatever they want. MCBDD, county agency,
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: not run by the commissioners, run by the board that
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: runs it. Boards at every level in this country, I
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: think Jamie Dimon talked about this a couple years ago,
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: are out of control because there's no accountability by the
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: board members anymore. When I go to school board meetings, nobody,
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: all they talk about is the kids. Nobody ever considers
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: the taxpayer responsible. who pays for everything that these kids have.
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: That's so far down the line they could care less.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: Or the effect that it has on them. I mean,
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: it is really– what is taking place is nothing short of– is,
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: as I would say to all of you, all of you,
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: that we are going to– we are making it too
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: difficult for young people to buy a home because of
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: the burden of property taxes in addition to the payments–
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: We are making it too difficult for people that own
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: homes to stay in them, whether they're working or they're
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: on fixed incomes. And if you vote for this stuff,
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: I sincerely believe you are to blame. I thank God
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: for like a Dave Thomas who in the reevaluations that
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: just took place again. Every three years, they reevaluate and
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: they say, no, your house is worth this. Taxing you
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: on unrealized gains. You haven't sold it. There's no additional
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: money in your pocket. We're just going to tax you
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: on this amount. Only the government can play this game.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: If it wasn't for Dave Thomas, a Republican state rep,
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: and the Republicans voting for this, it limits the increase
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: to the rate of inflation, which means you don't get
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: a 20% increase like you did last time you did
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: the reevaluations.
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: But that's only on the inside millage, not on the total.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: Right, but there's a limit as far as what it's
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: based on, the rate of inflation. So it's a step
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: in the right direction, and he saved everybody a pretty
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: good chunk of money as a result of it. So, hopefully.
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: What the state has to eventually do, and nobody has
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: the political cojones to do it, unfortunately, is they need
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: to take... the funding, the local funding, away from property
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: tax and figure out how to pay for the schools
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: at the state level.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: Well, if you listen to Plechnik, he would be the
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: first to tell you the state has the money right
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: now to cover the schools.
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: Well, unfortunately, there's one Plechnik, and we need an army
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: of them, because the other 99% of the people who
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: are serving in public positions are not Mr. Plechnik and
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: won't say no.
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. All right, Rich. Anything else?
• 34:54
  Speaker 7: All right.
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: Thank you, buddy.
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: Go talk to other people.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: You got it. I mean, that's what I say when
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: I sit here to each and every one of you.
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: And you might say in your economic situation, well, it's
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: not a big deal. But what about your neighbors? What
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: about other people? If I could, if I'm blessed by
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: sitting in the catbird seat here for so long, and
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: if you would see some of the emails that I
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: get and read, they rip your heart out. And I
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: do get emails from people who say, you know, I
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: used to hear you talk about all this stuff, and
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: I used to kind of ignore it and vote for
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: all these levies, and now my house is paid off.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: I never realized my property taxes were this high. And
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: I read them, and I think, it's a little late.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: You know, it's a little late. You know, it's why
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: I try to guide you in the best direction I can.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: Like I tell you, whatever that situation might be. But
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: pay attention. You're on the air.
• 36:09
  Speaker 14: Wasteful spending is a disease, and Axe Ohio.
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: Tax is the cure. Right, right.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: I mean, you cannot continue this property tax situation because
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: it will price everybody out of their home. There is
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: no end in sight with these re-evaluations or these levies.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: I applaud you and your group that are gathering these
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: signatures to say, let's put on a ballot. and give
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: people the opportunity to vote on a constitutional amendment to
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: do away with property taxes so the government can't take
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: your home from you.
• 36:40
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 36:41
  Speaker 14: You know, it was only about a year ago when
• 36:43
  Speaker 14: they asked the Boardman Superintendent, what are you going to
• 36:45
  Speaker 14: do that the mall can't pay their property taxes? And
• 36:48
  Speaker 14: he was like, oh, that's only.
• 36:50
  Speaker 7: $ 300, 000.
• 36:50
  Speaker 14: We have a $ 65 to $ 75 million budget.
• 36:51
  Speaker 7: Remember that?
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 36:52
  Speaker 14: That was not that long ago. And speaking of Boardman,
• 36:59
  Speaker 14: it was in the news about a month ago, the
• 37:01
  Speaker 14: Boardman News, that they have supplemental contracts totaling $ 480, 000. So
• 37:07
  Speaker 14: that means someone gets paid to be a coach. Someone
• 37:10
  Speaker 14: gets paid to run the chess club. Someone gets paid
• 37:12
  Speaker 14: to be the math chair or the English chair. $ 480, 000
• 37:17
  Speaker 14: in Boardman schools just for supplemental contracts. Kind of interesting. Now,
• 37:23
  Speaker 14: they're saying that this election is going to be a
• 37:24
  Speaker 14: huge voter turnout. They're already seeing that in the early voting.
• 37:29
  Speaker 14: So that's going to screw up our numbers. That's going
• 37:31
  Speaker 14: to raise our threshold that we have to cross. So
• 37:35
  Speaker 14: really what we're saying to people is we really need
• 37:37
  Speaker 14: you to get involved, to download the petition, get 10, 20,
• 37:40
  Speaker 14: 30 signatures of just people you know and mail them in.
• 37:43
  Speaker 14: We need to do that across the state if we're
• 37:45
  Speaker 14: really going to make this to the ballot because that's
• 37:48
  Speaker 14: what the trajectory looks like. It's going to just be
• 37:51
  Speaker 14: hard for the few of us that are doing this.
• 37:54
  Speaker 14: to make this happen as it is. And then if
• 37:56
  Speaker 14: the threshold goes up, which I think it's going to
• 37:58
  Speaker 14: go beyond 413,488 valid signatures that we're going to need,
• 38:04
  Speaker 14: we really need people to get involved. Just do it
• 38:07
  Speaker 14: with people you know. That'll mean a lot. We were
• 38:10
  Speaker 14: outside the Trump rally. There were 12 of us collecting
• 38:12
  Speaker 14: signatures from 9 in the morning till like 4. Brian
• 38:16
  Speaker 14: Massey was there. A lot of people were there. I
• 38:18
  Speaker 14: don't know if we got 200 maybe because a lot
• 38:21
  Speaker 14: of people have signed that happened to come to that rally.
• 38:24
  Speaker 5: So, but, you know, we're trying.
• 38:25
  Speaker 14: We're doing all we can do, but it's probably not
• 38:27
  Speaker 14: going to be enough if people don't get involved. So, again,
• 38:31
  Speaker 14: I don't expect people to do what I do and
• 38:33
  Speaker 14: go in public, but I do expect you to go
• 38:35
  Speaker 14: to your neighbors, your friends, your family. That's not hard.
• 38:38
  Speaker 14: You can download the petition from our website, axohtax.com.
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: God bless you.
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: And I don't know if your.
• 38:45
  Speaker 14: Wife has signed or your son has signed. You can
• 38:47
  Speaker 14: do the same thing. Download the petition, have them sign,
• 38:50
  Speaker 14: mail it in to Brian Massey. I mean, everybody needs
• 38:51
  Speaker 14: to do that.
• 38:52
  Speaker 7: Yep.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. So that's my plea. Okay? 100%. I'm with you.
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: Thank you for all you do. Okay. I mean, there's
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: a woman trying to make your life. There are those
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: diamonds that are out there that are so civic-minded trying
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: to make your Giving up so much to make it
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: a better place. Whether that's Dave Thomas, state rep, or
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: whether that's Denise with these signatures. And she has volunteers
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: that help her, Denise, Becky, and all of them. They're
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: wonderful human beings to do all this stuff and devote
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: all this time. So give it some context. consideration because
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: I wish I could tell you where things were heading.
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: And I am concerned about a lot of the jobs
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: with AI for people that are working and will be eliminated.
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: And it can have a dramatic effect on your household
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: income or finding another job. So give it some degree
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: of consideration on that. Let's see. Let me do my
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: break and I come back and pick up in rotation
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: with my phone calls.
• 39:58
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• 39:58
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• 40:02
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  Speaker 2: Hello there.
• 40:28
  Speaker 6: Hey, how you doing there, Ron?
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: Good, go ahead.
• 40:31
  Speaker 6: This is your guy from Phoenix to Youngstown, the dumb.
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: Oh, yes, yes, yes.
• 40:37
  Speaker 6: Listen, I like Trump, but I gotta say something, what
• 40:40
  Speaker 6: I saw the other day.
• 40:42
  Speaker 7: Yes.
• 40:43
  Speaker 6: He doesn't care. He doesn't care as far as this
• 40:46
  Speaker 6: area because DeWine doesn't care. Houston doesn't care if I'm
• 40:52
  Speaker 6: saying his name right. They don't care, and this is
• 40:54
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• 40:56
  Speaker 4: I like Trump, but.
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: You know what?
• 40:58
  Speaker 6: You know when he came into town, you could only
• 41:02
  Speaker 6: imagine what he thought, too.
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: Okay? I don't need to say it. I didn't say
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: it enough.
• 41:08
  Speaker 6: What kind of irked me was I already said it
• 41:10
  Speaker 6: once when DeWine... gave Springfield a car plant. Then on
• 41:16
  Speaker 6: top of that, Trump gives Iowa, and Iowa's a strong state.
• 41:22
  Speaker 6: They have all kinds of manufacturing. They've got the John
• 41:26
  Speaker 6: Deere plant. They've got mega steel mills out there. He
• 41:30
  Speaker 6: signs for them to get a brand new steel mill.
• 41:34
  Speaker 6: And that kind of blew my lid a little bit.
• 41:37
  Speaker 6: And I said, you know what? This area is hurting
• 41:40
  Speaker 6: for something like that, for the common blue-collar working guy,
• 41:44
  Speaker 6: you know? And I just sit there, and I'm like.
• 41:48
  Speaker 7: I don't know.
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: That I agree with that, because... Well... No, no, pause
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: for a second. We got the Kimberly-Clark plant under a
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: massive project under construction. Obviously, we have this huge battery
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: plant that was built, the TJX warehouse.
• 42:05
  Speaker 16: I mean.
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: Don't sell this area short.
• 42:09
  Speaker 6: I just don't see it.
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: You know what?
• 42:12
  Speaker 6: I remember going to Adams Junior High School in the
• 42:15
  Speaker 6: seventh grade, and I had a teacher. His name was Mr.
• 42:18
  Speaker 6: Jackie Beck. That's a name, okay? You'll never forget a
• 42:21
  Speaker 6: name like that. And he said, Ohio was a country
• 42:27
  Speaker 6: within a country. We have everything to sustain Ohio. You know, industry,
• 42:33
  Speaker 6: all this and this and that. This area has everything needed.
• 42:37
  Speaker 6: We can rebuild those coal plants down there on the river, down.
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: There on 7th.
• 42:43
  Speaker 6: We can, all the territory up there by the military,
• 42:46
  Speaker 6: the Vianna Airport. We've got so much land. I even
• 42:50
  Speaker 6: remember when Traficant wanted to dig a canal, okay, from
• 42:55
  Speaker 6: up there to have ships come down, which would have
• 42:57
  Speaker 6: been like the Hoover Dam for us.
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: You talk about the tourism.
• 43:01
  Speaker 6: We've got the land to build the steel mills where
• 43:04
  Speaker 6: they ripped them all out.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: All right, stand by. Stand by. I'll come back to
• 43:08
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  Speaker 4: Oh, that's all right, Guy. I just, I don't know,
• 46:52
  Speaker 4: you know, for.
• 46:53
  Speaker 6: I used to think Youngstown was just the center of
• 46:56
  Speaker 6: the world, you know, as a kid, Strauss and all
• 46:58
  Speaker 6: that downtown. And then things got turned upside down with,
• 47:03
  Speaker 6: you know, what was broken up. But I just don't
• 47:06
  Speaker 6: think anybody cares because I sit there and I'm a
• 47:08
  Speaker 6: news guy. I'm a politics guy. Like I said, you see,
• 47:13
  Speaker 6: you know, you mentioned the one factory. But I feel
• 47:16
  Speaker 6: just deeply there just needs to be something to be
• 47:20
  Speaker 6: brung in to make a deep impact. Like at the
• 47:23
  Speaker 6: time when Lordstown was built, when the steel mills were running,
• 47:27
  Speaker 6: you didn't really have blight in this town when all
• 47:32
  Speaker 6: these major, major corporations were going on. And it's almost like, okay,
• 47:37
  Speaker 6: you guys are talking about how we don't have enough refineries.
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: Why not go ahead.
• 47:44
  Speaker 6: and start building one here, make it a national emergency,
• 47:49
  Speaker 6: seven days a week, to where we could have a refining.
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: Back every year. When I was talking about that, I
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: said that would be the only example of a public-private partnership.
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: But it takes a private person as well as the
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: government to initiate something like that. But everything you're talking about,
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: just to back up, On all of it. This is
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: still a pretty good place to live. I mean, in general,
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's not some devastated area like a lot
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: of outsiders want to make it. You go down 224,
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: you go down 422. I mean, you know, you can.
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: Whether it's the Eastwood Mall complex in Niles, it's very nice.
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: All the stuff that's there that you can enjoy. So
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: whether it's 422 or 224, there's a lot of economic
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: activity around here. There's a lot of stores and things
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: for you to enjoy. There's a Covelli Center. There's just
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: a lot of stuff that we have here. And there
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: are employment opportunities. Many companies have a difficult time finding employees.
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: But times have changed recently. when you talk about these
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: large companies, it doesn't take as many people as it
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: used to take. Lordstown was 7,000, then it got down
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: to a couple thousand and shrunk as time went on
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: because of automation and technology. And the same thing's happening
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: in steel mills. You just can't be just a total
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: dummy and expect to get a decent paying job anymore
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: these days. I mean, you have to have some degree
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: of know-how. I mean, it takes some know-how to get
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: into Valoric. I mean, a pretty big employer with some
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: good pay and benefits around here, but you got to
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: show up. You got to pass a drug test. You
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: got to know how to have some basic fundamental skills.
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: This idea that you can walk in and basically be
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: an idiot, those days for the most part are over
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: when it comes to some of these jobs because of technology.
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, you take a look at what's going on now.
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: You have people in all of these communities fighting AI centers,
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: data centers. They're fighting them. They have moratoriums against them.
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: And I sit back and I say time and time again,
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: wait a minute. I'm the first guy to say if
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: you want to build a data center here, I have
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: no problem as long as you show how you're going
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: to supply the power to it, that you're not going
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: to go on our grid and increase our electric costs,
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: and you show how much water you're going to use,
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: and you show us the techniques you will use to
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: make sure that that water is clean when it returns
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: to the stream. I mean, you know, there's some criteria here.
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: But I sit back and I say to all of
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: these people that are here, all of you that are
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: opposed to this stuff, I tell you when you're talking
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: about this stuff, I'm not thinking about the steel mills.
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: I'm thinking about tomorrow's technology. When it comes to data centers,
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: I said it before, I'll say it again. This is
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: a sweet spot. Yes, this is a sweet spot for
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: them to be. It's not Florida. It's not Arizona. It's
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: too damn hot. This is a great spot for them
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: to be because we have the perfect weather. Because we
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: have seasons. It's not that hot. It's cooler in the wintertime.
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: So this is a great place for them to be.
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: We have two natural gas plants in Lordstown. So we
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: have the infrastructure as far as the transmission lines are concerned.
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: We have the right weather. We are the sweet spots.
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: For once in our life, our cloudy, crappy weather is
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: the sweet spot. But I'm looking around and I'm seeing
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: communities and my fellow citizens say, let's stop these data centers.
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: Let's get this moratorium against them. Based on what? As
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: I said to everybody when you're talking about advancements here, listen,
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: here's the criteria. Under no circumstances will you get any
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: tax abatement if you want to build here because we
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: don't need to kiss your arse to come here. There's
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: no tax breaks, no property tax breaks, none of this crap.
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: You want to come here? That's fine. Show us how
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: you're going to generate your power. Show us the water.
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: You're going to pay property taxes. And as I said
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: to people, On those criterias, then the property tax burden
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: is shifted to that giant facility and on fixed levies,
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: which is a majority of your levies on your property taxes,
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: you end up paying less because they carry a lot
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: of the burden. So it's good for your property taxes
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: and it's good for your overall condition. But no, around here,
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: we got people out for whatever God-known reason just saying, moratorium,
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: we're against it. We don't want it. Well, that's part
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: of the problem. That is, when you're talking about the future,
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: I'm not talking about steel mills. I'm talking about that's
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: where you're heading. So let's talk about that. Let's talk
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: about Kimberly Clark. I agree with you, Ron.
• 52:33
  Speaker 6: I agree with you totally on that because even though
• 52:36
  Speaker 6: I said what I said, I'll be honest with you.
• 52:39
  Speaker 6: I have invested heavily. into data center stock.
• 52:44
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 52:44
  Speaker 6: I've invested in it because like you said, that is
• 52:47
  Speaker 6: the future. Listen, I'm going to let you go, but
• 52:49
  Speaker 6: go Indians. Hopefully they can win and we'll leave it
• 52:52
  Speaker 6: at that brother.
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: Thank you. I mean, it's just, I mean, that's, that's
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: just something that's that we have. So I just shake
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: my head when I read that in a paper. Yes,
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: I read the paper, but it's just something to think about.
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: And mulling over. You're on the air.
• 53:19
  Speaker 7: Ron?
• 53:19
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 53:21
  Speaker 7: Okay. I'm a construction worker, union electrician.
• 53:25
  Speaker 6: Oh, welcome, union electrician.
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: IBEW?
• 53:28
  Speaker 7: IBEW, Local 573 out of Warren.
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: Well, you'll be happy to know my father-in-law, God rest
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: his soul, was an electrician for my brother-in-law. Retired, also
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: an electrician.
• 53:41
  Speaker 13: I probably know.
• 53:41
  Speaker 7: I've been in the trade for 35, 36 years.
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: I bet you know both of them.
• 53:47
  Speaker 7: Yes, I probably do. The thing that happened, I got
• 53:53
  Speaker 7: in out of high school, and... The schools... I'm going
• 53:58
  Speaker 7: to start from here to the beginning. Schools pushed college, college,
• 54:02
  Speaker 7: go to college, go do this, go do that, and,
• 54:04
  Speaker 7: you know, hey, get a degree, get all this stuff.
• 54:07
  Speaker 7: You know where it's all reverted back to?
• 54:09
  Speaker 16: The trees.
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: The trees, yep.
• 54:12
  Speaker 7: And they cut out shops, wood shops, machining. Yep. They
• 54:17
  Speaker 7: cut all that stuff out, and now... Kids don't know
• 54:21
  Speaker 7: what to do with themselves because a college degree, unless
• 54:23
  Speaker 7: you're a nurse, registered nurse, you go into health care
• 54:27
  Speaker 7: or something else, you have no idea what to.
• 54:30
  Speaker 4: Do with yourself.
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: And would you not agree with this? It's shocking to
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: me how so many of our young people don't know
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: how to do anything mechanical.
• 54:41
  Speaker 7: They can't turn a wrench.
• 54:42
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 54:44
  Speaker 7: They never worked on a bicycle like we grew up.
• 54:46
  Speaker 7: When your chain fell off, did you put your bicycle
• 54:49
  Speaker 7: chain on?
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: Yes, I did. Yes, I did.
• 54:53
  Speaker 7: Well, so did I. And you built your own bicycle.
• 54:56
  Speaker 7: Maybe you were lucky that maybe you had your dad's
• 54:59
  Speaker 7: welding machine and you attacked a little couple welds on
• 55:02
  Speaker 7: and do the frame. So nowadays, kids over the years
• 55:07
  Speaker 7: have not acclimated to this.
• 55:11
  Speaker 13: So it's always like, oh, I'm going into college.
• 55:14
  Speaker 7: I'm going to do all this stuff. But you know what?
• 55:19
  Speaker 7: Those kids... I have college debt. Yep. And I come
• 55:24
  Speaker 7: out of high school. My education was paid through through
• 55:27
  Speaker 7: the IBW.
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: And let me just emphasize for a minute.
• 55:31
  Speaker 7: As long as I stayed in for five years, if
• 55:34
  Speaker 7: I didn't stay in for five years, then I had
• 55:36
  Speaker 7: to pay it back.
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 55:38
  Speaker 7: So I was putting back. into the program.
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: And it's not an easy education. I just want to
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: emphasize this on what he's talking about. You know, he
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: went into the trades to become a union electrician. It
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: is not an easy thing to do. I mean, you know,
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: there's a lot of math involved. There's a lot of,
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: there's a, I mean, you can't be a dummy and
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: go into it. You got to apply yourself and there's,
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: and there's, and it's not easy, but it can be
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: done without college debt. And it is, it is a
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: damn good living. And can I tell you this? A
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: damn good retirement.
• 56:08
  Speaker 7: Yeah. Absolutely. I'll be 55 in December, and I'm hoping
• 56:16
  Speaker 7: within the next two years that I can retire.
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: Do you think you'd be ready to retire at 57?
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: I mean, is your body shot, or are you just...
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's awful young to retire.
• 56:28
  Speaker 9: Well, no.
• 56:29
  Speaker 7: I mean, my body is halfway decent.
• 56:34
  Speaker 13: I mean, I got some issues.
• 56:35
  Speaker 7: You know, I got some... Discs that are blown out. Well,
• 56:39
  Speaker 7: and I tell these young kids, in the things I
• 56:42
  Speaker 7: try to teach apprentices coming through the program, I'm like,
• 56:46
  Speaker 7: when I come in through the program, we didn't have
• 56:48
  Speaker 7: all these mechanical things and wire pullers. Technology came through.
• 56:53
  Speaker 7: So now you have cable feeders. Now you have wire pullers.
• 56:56
  Speaker 7: We did it by hand.
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: Yep. All the grunt work.
• 57:01
  Speaker 7: And now.
• 57:04
  Speaker 7: Don't jump down in the ditch.
• 57:05
  Speaker 13: Hey, there's a ladder there. Take the ladder down in there.
• 57:08
  Speaker 7: You're 22 years old. That every shock that you jump
• 57:12
  Speaker 7: down in the ditch or you're going to run pipe
• 57:14
  Speaker 7: or you're going to do anything, it all takes a
• 57:17
  Speaker 7: toll on your body. That's why I'm the journeyman, foreman, superintendent, whatever.
• 57:23
  Speaker 7: Take care of your body. Yep. And I'll teach you.
• 57:28
  Speaker 7: This is how we do it. And I've learned. I
• 57:32
  Speaker 7: learned from somebody else. And I just keep passing it
• 57:35
  Speaker 7: down the line.
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I remember my father-in-law saying, you want
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: to know what a dangerous job is? Be a lineman
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: and be out there in those storms, right? Damn dangerous jobs.
• 57:48
  Speaker 7: I've been up in 138,000. I've been in 138. I've
• 57:49
  Speaker 7: been in 4160. You know, I was on service truck and.
• 57:51
  Speaker 4: You get called out.
• 57:57
  Speaker 7: A mill shut down. They got 50, 60 people maybe
• 58:01
  Speaker 7: on Meridian Road. The plant shut down. Well, they're paying
• 58:06
  Speaker 7: for that. You've got to go out there and fix it.
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: And figure out what's wrong.
• 58:11
  Speaker 7: And you figure it out. You replace a fuse holder.
• 58:15
  Speaker 7: You go and do your job. And you know what?
• 58:19
  Speaker 7: It's better for them to pay us to come out
• 58:22
  Speaker 7: and do it than have 50, 60 people sitting around
• 58:26
  Speaker 7: and no production and no material coming out of the line.
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: You know, just as a side note, I mean, would
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: you agree with this? And most of us probably don't
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: have it. But on your– who was just telling me
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: the other day? I got to think of who this was. Jesus,
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: somebody was just telling me the other day they took
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: an electrical hit. And they're out of their home because
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: it just fried everything. But you should have a.
• 58:57
  Speaker 7: I would say make sure your grounding is good.
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: And also make sure you've got a surge protector on
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: your breaker box. Most people don't.
• 59:09
  Speaker 7: If your grounding is good and you have a surge
• 59:11
  Speaker 7: protector that's going to take the brunt of it, that
• 59:14
  Speaker 7: don't fire your appliances, your TVs, your computers. So make
• 59:21
  Speaker 7: sure you have all that protected through surge protectors and
• 59:25
  Speaker 7: proper grounding. Some people don't have proper grounding. Yeah. Where
• 59:29
  Speaker 7: if you get a lightning strike, that's going to the ground.
• 59:32
  Speaker 7: That's what's going to accept it.
• 59:33
  Speaker 13: You may get a visual effect to that to where
• 59:37
  Speaker 13: it may go into and like, hey, I'm going in.
• 59:41
  Speaker 7: You have a panel. And now your appliances are plugged
• 59:47
  Speaker 7: into it. So let that take it. Let it burn
• 59:50
  Speaker 7: a fuse out or, you know, it's an $ 8 surge protector.
• 59:55
  Speaker 7: It's better than a $ 2, 000 TV.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah. It was one of my callers, Jeff in Canfield.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: He says his house took a lightning hit in Canfield somehow.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: He's not quite sure. And it fried everything. He's not
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: even allowed to stay in his house because of the
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: fumes from the wires and the burning from the lightning.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 7: Possibly. It could have burned up everything. I mean, Romex
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 7: is polycore, polyromex. Yeah. So it's plastic.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 13: And so if.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 7: That burns up. You're going to have a residue of smoke.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 7: That's why nobody runs PVC in houses or commercial buildings.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: And in addition to that, look at how expensive Romex is.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 7: It's outrageous, but you can run MCs.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: I mean, you've got to pay it, but copper is
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: so expensive. But what Romex used to cost, whether it's
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: 12-2 or 14-2, it's expensive. It's just expensive anymore.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 7: I mean, the minerals have gone up substantially. I remember
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 7: doing houses in the 90s, and I went in and
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 7: I would change out panels, go and say a revamp.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 7: And it was all aluminum wire. So you had to
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 7: downsize that. So aluminum wire, you downsized everything.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: I don't want aluminum wire. I want copper.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 7: Well, I understand that. But back then, I ran into
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 7: houses that had aluminum wire. And everybody, I had an
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 7: apprentice with me. And he was like, oh, it's measured
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 7: on his little stripper. And it says, oh, it's 12-gauge wire. Well, no.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 7: You downsize that. You have to go on a 15-amp breaker.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 7: So you've got to downsize everything. But going back to
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 7: data centers and stuff, I'm working out at Foxconn right now. Yeah.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 7: And it's pretty much unbelievable the amount of money that
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 7: SoftBank and SkyBank and everybody else is putting into that place.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: For the data center out there?
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 7: I've been out there for a year and a half. Really?
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 4: Wow. Oh, yeah.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: How's it progressing?
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 7: It's progressing. It's slow. And I think it's based out
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 7: of Thailand or something that bought everything. Foxconn is actually
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 7: moving to the West plant.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: Is the data center, though, a separate add-on building, isn't it?
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: Didn't they add that up?
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 22: Yeah.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: You sound like a million square feet or something. It's
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: a pretty substantial addition, wasn't it?
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it's up front, and all the steel's there, and
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 7: we're doing underground. I have, well, right now I'm doing
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 7: duck bank, and I got 26-inch conduits coming from the
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 7: powerhouse all the way to the front of the building.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: 26-inch. Holy cow.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 7: 26-inch.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: That is unreal.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 7: And I would love to take you out there, but
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 7: I probably can't.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: Oh, I know you can't.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 13: But I could give you pictures and show you what
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 13: we're doing.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: All right, stand by for a second. Hang on, hang on,
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: just hang on. Let me do my commercials. Hang on
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: a minute. I want to come back to you. This
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: guy's interesting. I want to hear more. Hey, Ron, I'm
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: going to go check in.
• 1:03:39
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• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: So, I mean, so this place has been under construction
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: for a year and a half out there?
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 7: I'd say over about three years from what we have
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 7: put in with Lordstown Motors, and then we tore out
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 7: because they were building the tractors out there. Let me
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 7: rephrase that. Assembling tractors. They came from China. So they
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 7: were assembling tractors out there. They laid off their people
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 7: for 15 months, and they got full pay. Okay. Maintenance,
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 7: everybody was gone. So we came in as subcontractors, demoing,
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 7: taking care of everything. I changed motors out. We did
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 7: everything out there. And now they just started bringing people
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 7: back in, production people, to train them. They're bringing in
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 7: 30 people at a time, and they're going to go
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 7: and start in the west plant. They already have connexes
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 7: that they're building now. to make portable data centers. So
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 7: it's going to be portable. It's a Connex, a CCAN
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 7: we call them. And they're going to put all that
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 7: stuff together in there, and it'll be plug-and-play, and they
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 7: can put them anywhere in the United States.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: So that's what they're using. So just help me out
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: in my head so I understand. Are they using a
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: large part of that huge Lordstown facility for that or
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: just a small part?
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 7: They're using, I would say... I don't know if you're
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 7: familiar with the plant, the west plant, which would be
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 7: the stamping plant.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 7: Which used to be the stamping plant, which leads to
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 7: the west of the east plant, of the assembly plant,
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 7: between the paint shop. And so that's what they're going
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 7: to do in there. And they're already training people on
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 7: how to do these things. There are going to be
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 7: 1,800 containers that will be brought in, and they're going
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 7: to assemble and build things in there. for data centers, portable.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 13: I'm not saying portable.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so is a lot outside of that area being used?
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: Is the rest of that plant then just sitting idle?
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 7: They have a lot of storage in the west plant
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 7: or the east plant, and they have the whole new
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 7: building going up out front, which is this is all
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 7: the power that I'm doing to that front.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: For the data centers.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 7: For a data center, maybe smaller scale. And I listen
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 7: to people on social media and stuff. I'm like, this
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 7: has already been grandfathered in. So this is not a
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 7: new permit. This has already been done.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 13: So there's no really.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 7: Stopping what they're doing.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: Was it like a million square feet or something that
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: they added on? Does that sound right?
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 7: Well, yeah.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 7: It's not added on. It's in the parking lot. Okay. Okay.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 7: And all those old builds were torn down.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: Did they take out the old assembly lines and that
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: kind of stuff in there that made the transition?
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 7: You can see from one end of the plant to
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 7: the other.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 7: There's nothing there. There's no conveyor. There's nothing in that
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 7: plant besides columns and painted floor.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: But you can see that they're growing and using it.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 7: Oh, somebody's going to use it, whether they run it
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 7: out to another company. You figure SoftBank is part of Apple,
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 7: and they have a lot of money, so they can
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 7: do whatever they want to whatever they want.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so the power for that plant in Lordstown, I
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: think that will come off of those gas-fired power plants,
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: if I'm not mistaken.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 7: Well, the transmission lines run behind the plant. There's a
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 7: substation there.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 4: Oh, okay.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 7: We just refurbished one transformer. And they're going to refurbish
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 7: another one. And they're talking about building another whole substation
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 7: coming off the power lines. So the power lines are
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 7: probably 138 to maybe 240. So you can drop down,
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 7: hit transformers, do whatever you want, and tap in, go,
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 7: and provide power to whatever you need.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: It's really something. When do you think it will be done, finished?
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 7: Oh, man, they wanted us done with the duck bank.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 7: Not wire pulled, but duck bank by October 31st. We're
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 7: already 10 days ahead of schedule.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 4: Oh, cool.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 7: So that's Union Labor.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: There you go. And you earn every bit of it.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: You know, the union electrician has the apprenticeship and the
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: schooling to do things right. Keep me in the loop, man.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: I really enjoy talking to you, and make sure you
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: stay grounded, if you will. All right.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 7: I try not to. If I get grounded, I'm in
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 7: bad shape.
• 1:08:51
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  Speaker 2: Now, Ron Verb on NewsRadio 570 WKBN. All right. Interesting guy.
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  Speaker 2: 435 in the afternoon. News Radio 570 WKBN. Wednesday, October 14th,
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  Speaker 2: 62 degrees. And you're on air.
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  Speaker 5: Hey, good afternoon, Ron. How are you?
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  Speaker 2: It's Miguel, the world's traveling salesman. Town to town he goes.
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  Speaker 5: How are you, man?
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  Speaker 4: Good.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, give me an update. I mean, what do you
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: see out there? Is the economy doing well?
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  Speaker 5: Still, everything's status quo. If you're close to the government trough,
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 5: you're in good shape. I mean, I have is what
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  Speaker 5: I want.
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  Speaker 7: To talk about.
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  Speaker 5: You know, you earlier had mentioned, you know, a public
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  Speaker 5: private partnership. There really isn't.
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  Speaker 2: In general, I'm opposed to those, but I've said when
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  Speaker 2: it comes to refineries, we haven't built a new one
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  Speaker 2: in this country since the 70s. And just to emphasize,
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  Speaker 2: we don't put oil in your tank. We need refineries.
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  Speaker 2: And the only way that I would, if I was king,
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  Speaker 2: I would have a 24-hour-a-day, seven-days-a-week mission to build a
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  Speaker 2: couple refineries and a public-private partnership to get it done
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  Speaker 2: immediately because there's a huge need. It is absolutely necessary.
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  Speaker 2: But go ahead.
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  Speaker 5: When would you turn that back over to the private side?
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  Speaker 2: When they would restore the money.
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  Speaker 5: The public side protects and creates a monopoly for whoever
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  Speaker 5: they're in partnership with. And it doesn't make a difference
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  Speaker 5: what industry it is.
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  Speaker 2: Well, in that sense, I mean, listen, I have no
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  Speaker 2: problem at all if a private company wants to build refineries.
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  Speaker 2: We just don't see anybody doing it. Now, I do
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  Speaker 2: put this caveat out there. The existing refineries have been
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  Speaker 2: added on to. So, I mean, so that has changed.
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  Speaker 2: We don't have any new refineries. I mention it because
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  Speaker 2: we are at capacity on refining. The only country that
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: has additional refining capacity is China, right? It has 30%
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  Speaker 2: additional capacity. We're at peak. I'm just saying that we
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  Speaker 2: should have refineries built, but private companies aren't doing that
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  Speaker 2: because of the uncertainty of what's going on.
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  Speaker 5: You've said it right there. That's it. It's the uncertainty,
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  Speaker 5: the business conditions that happen. when you get involved, when
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  Speaker 5: the government gets involved with anything. I mean, think about
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  Speaker 5: over the past couple days, and I'm really not interested
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  Speaker 5: in anybody else's version of freedom. Rich, he wouldn't mind
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  Speaker 5: seeing a single-payer system.
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  Speaker 2: Freedom's just another word for having nothing to lose, to
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  Speaker 2: quote Chris Christopherson. I'm sorry? Kris Kristofferson. Don't you remember
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: that song? Freedom's just another word for having nothing to lose.
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  Speaker 5: I never heard of her.
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  Speaker 2: It's him.
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  Speaker 5: So you get the government involved and they throw these
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  Speaker 5: regulations out and they make it impossible to have a
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  Speaker 5: free market. The cost of entry is is protected by them.
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  Speaker 5: It's almost like the mafia. Okay, you know, you pay your...
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  Speaker 5: maybe donate to a campaign or something. You know, that's
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  Speaker 5: your protection money. And all of a sudden, you know,
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  Speaker 5: the business that you're in has, you know, the protections
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  Speaker 5: of the government. But, you know, the difference between China
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  Speaker 5: and here is they don't care about....
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  Speaker 4: Their environment.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, they really don't. That's the bottom line. And
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  Speaker 5: I'm not saying that we have to go that route here.
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  Speaker 5: Companies would be responsible, and consumers would be responsible for
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  Speaker 5: holding the companies that they're doing business with accountable for
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  Speaker 5: what they do. And there is no better system than that.
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  Speaker 5: The ones that that are not efficient, their resources get
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 5: pulled away, whether that's from purchasing or whatever method that
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 5: the consumer decides. Maybe they don't buy their product. You've
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  Speaker 5: talked a lot about, probably over the last couple months,
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  Speaker 5: taxes and you know, the schools and stuff like that,
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  Speaker 5: but there really isn't much, there's not competition, legitimate competition
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  Speaker 5: in the education system.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I don't know about that. You do have different
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  Speaker 2: options with schools outside even the public schools. Catholic schools
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  Speaker 2: and charter schools, I mean, there's more competition and There's
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  Speaker 2: ever been, really.
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  Speaker 5: And I understand that because that's what I did with
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  Speaker 5: my children.
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  Speaker 2: What did you do with your children?
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  Speaker 5: Well, they went to parochial schools.
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  Speaker 6: Okay.
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  Speaker 5: Because we didn't trust, my wife and I, we did
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  Speaker 5: not trust the public school system to educate them the
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  Speaker 5: way that we wanted them educated.
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  Speaker 2: And do you think it paid off?
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  Speaker 12: Oh, absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: And just to share with our listeners, that's a very
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 2: expensive undertaking, incidentally. It's almost like paying college tuition for
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: high school.
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  Speaker 6: I don't even want to relive this.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, I do. Really, really. Now that makes me
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 2: want to know even more. Yes, let's rip that Band-Aid
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  Speaker 2: off and take a look. I mean, it's very costly
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  Speaker 2: to put them through Catholic school.
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  Speaker 5: Sure, but I had to pay twice, right? I had
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  Speaker 5: to pay for... the parochial education, but then I also
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  Speaker 5: have to pay property taxes that funds the competition, we'll say. And,
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 5: you know, right now, I know that the high school tuition,
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 5: it's probably north of $ 15, 000 a year. Really?
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  Speaker 3: Really?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, my God.
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  Speaker 5: That much? When my youngest daughter graduated, it was over 10.
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  Speaker 7: Oh, Lord.
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  Speaker 2: When you say that, now I'm serious with you, all right?
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  Speaker 2: I know you're driving, so you're sitting down. That's what,
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  Speaker 2: when my kids went to YSU, that's what it cost
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  Speaker 2: me a year, $ 10, 000 a year.
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  Speaker 4: Sure.
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  Speaker 2: To go to YSU. It would have been a lot less.
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  Speaker 5: If there was no DEA or.
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  Speaker 2: No, I mean, it was just a.
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  Speaker 5: It would have been a lot less if there was
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  Speaker 5: no education.
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  Speaker 2: And that was with them living at home. They didn't
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  Speaker 2: go to Akron U or Kent State. You're going to
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  Speaker 2: YSU and all that kind of stuff because what you
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: needed is there. And they enjoyed that university. But it
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  Speaker 2: was still $ 10, 000. And can I tell you, you sound
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  Speaker 2: like a man after my own heart. When I was
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  Speaker 2: done writing those checks, I said, hallelujah.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, now we just got to marry the daughters off, right?
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  Speaker 2: It's just like, it was like, wow. That's, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you were paying that for four years of high school?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, that was seven years ago.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, my Lord. And then what happened with college? Or
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 2: did they go to college?
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  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah, absolutely.
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 5: My kids are doing better than my wife and I.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, but when they went to college, who paid that?
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  Speaker 2: Come on. Come with it.
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  Speaker 5: Well, they had some loans, and Mom and Dad helped
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 5: whenever we could.
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  Speaker 2: All right. So did they get any scholarships?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 13: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, and then they had some loans, and then and
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 2: then you contributed to that. Oh, what that costs you
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 2: a year. I'm enjoying every bit of this folks. This
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 2: is like, I feel as though I'm torturing this guy
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 2: and I'm loving it. I feel like I'm loving every minute.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I know.
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  Speaker 5: And of course I'm sitting in traffic going 11 miles
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  Speaker 5: an hour so that I can't even drive into the
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 5: next bridge abutment. And do some serious damage. Thank you
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 5: very much.
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  Speaker 2: Where are you as we're speaking? What area are you in?
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  Speaker 5: I actually just drove by where the Eagles play.
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  Speaker 13: Oh, you're in Philadelphia?
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  Speaker 5: I'm close to Philadelphia.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 6: So.
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  Speaker 2: So, okay. Now, I'm sure since you're like a salesman,
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 2: you travel the country, and you're never home other than
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 2: on the weekends.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 5: Well, somebody's got to pay for this school.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure your kids appreciated all the sacrifice of you
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 2: being out and never being home, right?
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  Speaker 5: Ron, I didn't start traveling until the last one was
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  Speaker 5: out of school.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, out of high school?
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  Speaker 6: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, okay. So then you started leaving. That's interesting.
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  Speaker 5: That wasn't in the cards for me then.
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  Speaker 2: You enjoying it?
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 5: What, traveling?
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, seeing the world.
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 5: It's a means to an end.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah. How are the bedbugs out there? If you travel
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: a lot, you're in a lot of hotels.
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  Speaker 5: I'm not going to say anything other than because there's
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 5: no wood to knock on here. But, you know, God willing,
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 5: I'll never have to deal with them because I never
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 5: have yet.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, okay. Just checking, you know what I mean, and
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 2: that kind of stuff. So are people, like, there's... How
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  Speaker 2: do I put it? It seems to me, despite the inflation,
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 2: the economy is still doing pretty good.
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  Speaker 5: Ron, I would agree with you that people are still spending.
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  Speaker 5: And where's that money coming from? I don't know. By
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 5: some accounts, a lot of it is people are living
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 5: on their line of credit.
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 2: But I mean, I don't see a slowdown, even with
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 2: higher gas prices. I mean, you're out there. There's plenty
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 2: of cars on the road. There's plenty of trucks on
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 2: the road.
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 5: I would confirm what Rich said the other day about
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 5: when they were out to dinner. And by the way,
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 5: it was Jeff from Canfield that had that incident.
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 5: I got a photographic memory.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 2: So do I. Yeah.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 5: I guess your wife said it never developed.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely. She does all the time. Don't you remember
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 2: what I told you three days ago about that? And
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 2: I go, no, I really don't.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah, she calls you Einstein, right?
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 2: I thought it was a compliment, thinking I was really smart. Apparently,
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: she's being what some people tell me is sarcastic. I
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 2: thought it was a compliment. Because she'd say, way to go, Einstein.
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 2: I thought, okay, well, she's thinking I'm really smart. But
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 2: I guess it's sarcastic.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 13: Yeah, we got the same thing, right?
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 2: Right, okay. So you see, I mean, the economy's still
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 2: doing pretty good.
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 5: I think it's just, you know, it's very difficult, especially,
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 5: this is, by all accounts, they are trying to prevent
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 5: this bubble from popping, which, you know, the bubble is
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 5: not really, that's not the disease, that's the cure. We
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 5: need an adjustment, and if we're not going to take, say,
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 5: a depression to readjust pricing and reallocate labor in the
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 5: market to activities that are required by us, the consumer,
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 5: then our only other choice is to grow our way
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 5: out of it. And I think back, you know, going
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 5: back to Trump's term one, you know, we were on
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 5: that path.
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 2: Oh, yes. Oh, yeah.
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 5: And, you know, I'm not saying that, you know, we're
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 5: going to pay off this $ 40 trillion debt. I don't
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 5: know if we ever are. But, you know, we are
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 5: going to make it back then. And I don't agree
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 5: with this now. I don't think we're... were on this
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 5: track anymore. I think they're just, you know, the printing
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 5: press is just continually dumping, you know, money into the
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 5: system to be used for whatever the central planners want,
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 5: not so much what the consumer wants.
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know. I really don't understand why
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 5: people are fearful of the free market.
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 4: I really don't.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 5: You're going to get exactly what you want at whatever
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 5: price point you're willing to pay. If you're not willing
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 5: to pay that price, then, you know, the consumer, their
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 5: choice is to either reduce the price or go.
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 2: Out of business.
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 5: You don't purchase.
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 22: Yeah.
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 2: Well, I think that's what you're seeing in housing. As
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 2: you see interest rates go up, you're seeing housing stock
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 2: for sale homes, more of them gathered, and housing prices
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 2: coming down. But that's the goal of raising interest rates
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 2: is to try to get inflation in line, squelch demand.
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 5: Let me just interject on that. The goal should never
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 5: be to raise interest rates, okay? because you think this
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 5: or that. The interest rates should go up, fall, and
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 5: go up as a natural reaction to the need for capital.
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but here's the problem with it. The interest rates,
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 2: when you talk about the need for capital, how much
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 2: borrowing the government is doing and now these AI centers,
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 2: it dwarfs the individual. So if you're talking supply and demand,
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 2: that can make it difficult on the individual.
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 5: Sure, they're going to pay the same as whatever Joe
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 5: Bag of Donuts is. Maybe they get a better corporate
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 5: rate or whatever. But, you know, if it's easier for
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 5: us to borrow, it's definitely easier for them to borrow.
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 5: So I don't know if I, I don't agree with the,
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 5: you know, the central planning on the interest rates.
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 5: But, you know, because what that's going to do is
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 5: that's just pushing the bubble out. The bubble, when it bursts,
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 5: is going to be bigger.
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 2: Before my break comes, I've got to ask you this.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 2: Are you ready?
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 2: As a traveling salesman, and you're out there a lot,
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 2: what area has the best strip clubs?
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 5: Oh, Ron, you're killing me, because I've got friends that listen.
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 5: They're probably going to call my wife. I don't know
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 5: of any.
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 2: All right. Thank you, Michael. Yeah, gotta go.
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  Speaker 22: 1975 to today, different presidents, different issues, but Sherrod Brown's
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• 1:26:54
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  Speaker 22: Bernie Sanders, 92. That was the Democrat party he joined
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  Speaker 2: October 14th, 62 degrees. You're on the air.
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 8: Tony, how are you doing?
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 2: You know, yesterday it was like I didn't know what
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 2: world I was living in, what universe I was living
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 2: in yesterday. How am I doing? So it's the unknown caller, folks.
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 2: So yesterday, this is the world I was in yesterday.
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 2: Instead of the unknown caller with this usual, oh, one
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 2: more thing, I got to go.
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 8: No.
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 2: So he pulls the dick from Dayton clothes on me,
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 2: the unknown caller. Hey, Ron, one more thing.
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 6: What?
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 2: Have a nice day. And it was like, what the
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 2: hell is that? So then on top of that, yesterday,
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 2: then the boss lady calls. And the boss lady says
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 2: to me at the end of her call, oh, Ron,
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 2: one more thing. And I mean, she's got me hook, line,
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 2: and sinker. I mean, she's like a fish on a string.
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 2: She's reeling in. She says, oh, Ron, one more thing.
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 2: And I say, oh, what's that, boss lady? I got
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 2: to go. Oh, did she? Was that so damn funny?
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 2: And she got the best of me.
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  Speaker 8: Well, Ron, I was on the tractor cutting grass with
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 8: the headphones on, listening to the show.
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 6: And I'm like, wait, what?
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 8: What did she just say?
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 2: You were as stunned as I. I said, damn, she
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 2: got the best of me. I mean, really, what a
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 2: classic that was. I laughed so hard at that, and
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 2: it was just funny, man.
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I did not expect that at all. I called
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 8: about Rich's call.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 20: I mean.
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 8: Remember yesterday we talked about how Trump was talking about
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 8: Houston being a football player, and he's like, yeah, you know.
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  Speaker 6: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, when's the.
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 8: Last time you had a 26-inch conduit, Ronnie?
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 2: I've never heard of a 26-inch conduit.
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 8: Like that electrician guy was saying.
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's, if you know electricity, that's a huge conduit.
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 6: Oh, yeah, that's huge.
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 8: But, yeah, the ground rods, I think they used to
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 8: only have to be like three feet in the ground,
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 8: and then it went to six. I think they got
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 8: to be eight.
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, they're eight feet. You got to get down
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 2: in the moisture.
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 8: But, all right, so, yeah, the Guardians, we're one-to-one coming
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 8: out of there, so that's not bad.
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 6: Oh, by the way, newsflash, Ronnie.
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 8: Your show's probably going to be interrupted tomorrow because they
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 8: moved the game to 1 o'clock. Did you know that?
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I... No, I never heard that. So, wait a minute. Oh,
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 2: excuse me. It's a newsflash from the unknown caller. The
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 2: game is moved to 1 o'clock tomorrow because of the
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 2: potential of inclement weather. So, if the game gets on
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 2: at 1, we should get on by 4 or shortly
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 2: after the game. But I'm hoping for a victory. I mean, so.
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 2: And then, let's see, that would be Thursday. Then Friday's
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 2: the next game.
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 8: Coming in from their field at 1-1.
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 2: Stand by. Just stand by. It's the unknown caller. I'm
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 2: going to put him on hold. And I get back
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 2: to the unknown caller after the break at 5. Stay tuned.
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  Speaker 1: Now, Ron Verb on NewsRadio 570 WKBN.
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  Speaker 2: Back to it, NewsRadio 570 WKBN 505. All right, unknown caller.
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  Speaker 8: Hey, Ron, I don't know if you got it yet,
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 8: but I sent a poster for your wife of Dave Thomas.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, thank you. I said this yesterday. We were watching
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 2: the Trump rally at Covelli, and I said to my wife,
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 2: I said, there's Dave Thomas standing behind Trump right there.
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 2: And my wife said, oh, he's cute.
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  Speaker 8: Hey, the woman trying to stop the property.
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 2: Tax in Ohio. Denise, yes.
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 8: That woman.
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 17: I mean, she has.
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 2: It's her and Becky and a group of, I mean,
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 2: they all deserve a lot of credit.
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 8: Like, I signed in front of your place, probably, jeez,
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 8: I don't know, you're unhappy with things like, but everybody
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 8: I talk to, they already signed it, but it's good
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 8: to know that you could go to, what is it,
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 8: Axe Ohio Tax, is that what it is?
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess. Something like Something like that. Don't ask
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 2: me those questions. I don't know.
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 8: Yeah, you're just a talk show host.
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 2: I didn't write it all down. If you can't find
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 2: Denise out there to sign a petition, then you're not
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 2: looking very hard.
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 8: All right, so I was amongst friends the other day,
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 8: and there were some younger people with kids, and they
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 8: were talking about a school tax. And they're saying that, yeah, yeah,
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 8: this is the third time we're trying to get the tax,
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 8: you know, passed because they're going to stop all sports
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 8: and all, you know, music and everything. All the programs
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 8: are going to be eliminated. And in my head, I'm like, yeah, right.
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 8: But what I mean, so we're amongst friends. We're having
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 8: a good time. So I just. told him about the
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 8: one guy that I used to work with when we
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 8: were young and his kids were in school. He was like,
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 8: these old people don't want to pass the tax. You know,
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 8: he was like all mad. And then when he got old,
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 8: he goes, they're taking my money. They're taking my money
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 8: for these schools. They're taking too much money. You know,
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 8: so eventually you do realize it. But when you're young,
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 8: you're still voting for this stupid stuff.
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 4: What do you think, Ronnie?
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 2: I get a lot of emails like that where people say,
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 2: you know, I never had any idea how much my
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 2: property taxes were. It was just in the payment and
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff. And now I get what
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 2: you were talking about. Now my house is paid off,
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 2: and I can see how much it's costing me a month.
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 2: This is ridiculous. And my attitude is it's a little
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 2: late now, pal.
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 8: How about this, though? It's like 20-some years ago, didn't
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 8: the courts in Ohio– determined that the state of Ohio
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 8: is responsible for paying for schools. Why am I still
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 8: paying for it in my property tax?
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 2: Well, what's more important than that is when you have
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 2: Plushnik on. The commissioner from Lake County, a lawyer from
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 2: Duke Law School, tax attorney, who says if you read
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 2: the state constitution, it says clearly in the state constitution
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 2: that the state is responsible for funding the schools, not
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 2: the property owner.
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 8: Do we have a class action lawsuit against the state?
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 8: I mean, could the property owners get a class action lawsuit?
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 2: Well, I got to beef against the state. First of all,
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 2: I got to beef against the state. Let's be realistic.
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 2: It's your money that the state takes from you. And
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 2: then at that point, obviously, it becomes their money. because
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 2: they take it from you. But the idea that the
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 2: state should restore the local government fund back to where
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 2: it belongs, the state is keeping too damn much of
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 2: the money that they take from you. And the local
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 2: government fund should be restored. And so it's The state,
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 2: I think, gets far too much of your money and
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 2: doesn't return enough of it to the local area. I
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 2: think there's major problems there.
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 6: This is my point.
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 8: It has been established that the state is responsible for
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 8: the schools. I know it's still my money, but it's
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 8: not like 60% of my property tax.
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 8: So I don't know why that hasn't been resolved yet.
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 2: I've got to get Pleschnik back on the program. I
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 2: just got to get him back on so he can
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 2: explain all of that. So I'll tell him to explain
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 2: it and to simplify it so you'll understand it.
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, dumb it down quite a bit.
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 2: Right, that's what I'm saying. So the unknown caller, explain
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 2: the state constitution, what it says about school funding, and
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 2: dumb it down a lot for the unknown caller. That
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 2: would be my instruction.
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 8: That's another thing. When I was talking to my friends,
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 8: they live in the affluent society region, and as Rich
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 8: was saying, those people pay more. I mean, yeah, they
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 8: pay more for their school and get less state money.
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 8: So they're paying like twice again, just like the guy
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 8: that sent his kids to the parochial school.
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 2: Mike, the traveling salesman.
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 8: So, I mean, so he, he's paying twice. And I,
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 8: I think it's like Youngstown, the city schools is like
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 8: 20 or 30,000.
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 2: Oh, it's ridiculous how much they pay per pupil. It
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 2: goes to show you money doesn't equate for, uh, for
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 2: a good outcome. Because that's very, it's out of control.
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 2: The schools are doing too much. They've grown out of
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 2: control as well as far as all they're doing. And really,
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 2: we've got to get back to basic, not basic, of education.
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 2: And we've got to control the spending. There is this
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 2: idea that there's no end in sight is a thing
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 2: of the past. And it's growing worse every day. Now,
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 2: you mentioned your friends in the affluent area. What area
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 2: would you be in?
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 8: I was trying to think of the word. I can't
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 8: say it on the radio, Ronnie.
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 6: Not right now.
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 2: What's it start with?
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 8: Hey, Ronnie.
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 4: You know what? You know what I'm thinking?
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 2: No, what are you thinking?
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 8: You're not going to believe this, but one more thing
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 8: before I go.
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 8: If the boss lady is listening, just let her know
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 8: that I got to go.
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 2: You're on the air.
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 4: Hello?
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 5: Hello.
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 2: Hi.
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 4: My name is Mark. I've listened to your show a
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 4: long time. Listener and first-time caller. I started listening to
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 4: your show way back in 1984-85 when you first came
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 4: to the Valley during the tornado outbreak of 85. And
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 4: I listen to your show pretty religiously when I can.
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 4: My wife even calls me Mark Verb simply because I
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 4: agree with just about everything that you say. But one
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 4: of the reasons I'm calling today is about the data centers.
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 4: I saw something... recently about building these data centers underground,
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 4: putting them underground with solar panels over the top of them.
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 4: And it seems to me like it would be a
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 4: lot more efficient situation because it's a lot easier to
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 4: cool these facilities when they're underground. And then the electric being,
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 4: having solar panels over the top would be a lot
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 4: easier for them to power these units. And it just
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 4: makes a hell of a lot more sense than taking
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 4: the farmland that we have out there and even building
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 4: these facilities and old industrial parks that used to be
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 4: used for steel mills or whatever the case may be.
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 4: And it just doesn't seem like it's really a good idea.
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 2: Particularly when you're talking about the farmland, you see the
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 2: amount of great farmland. I don't know who's going to
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 2: grow our food anymore when we see Like, for example,
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 2: in Florida, real estate is so valuable, a lot of
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 2: the orange groves, they sell off so people can build
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 2: homes on them. Well, where are you going to get
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 2: your oranges from? And around there, they're selling hundreds of
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 2: acres to AI centers of prime farmland. Well, okay, now
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 2: they're off the market. Now who's going to grow your
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 2: corn and stuff?
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 4: Right, and throughout the Rust Belt, we have all this
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 4: industrial property that's no longer used. Why can't they use,
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 4: repurpose that land?
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 7: Yep.
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 4: And build them in areas that no longer use that
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 4: area for industry. It just makes a bad use of
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 4: our farmland and our resources.
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 2: I'm in total agreement with you. There's nothing sadder than
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 2: seeing a family farm go away and become a housing
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 2: development or whatever the case is. But unfortunately, a lot
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 2: of times the kids don't want, I mean, farming is,
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 2: I know my wife was once telling me, somebody says, well, I'm,
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 2: I'm so-and-so, and she says, the most important person in
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 2: this room is that person over there. They're a farmer,
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 2: and they grow my food. And that put everybody in
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 2: their place right away.
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 4: Oftentimes, too, these corporations are the farmers. I mean, the
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 4: individual farmer is a substantial part, but we also have
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 4: these corporate farms. out there that make a vast amount
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 4: of these, the produce that we get, especially like in
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 4: California and Arizona and New Mexico, the areas where the
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 4: farms are. And it's just one of those situations where
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 4: the small-time farmer, can they make it that much? Can
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 4: they make it anymore?
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 2: I mean, we are genuinely blessed around here that we
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 2: have White House Fruit Farm. I mean, you know, where
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 2: you can get locally grown corn and strawberries and stuff
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 2: and blueberries.
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 4: Well, I grew up in Ashtabula, and there's a lot
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 4: of farmland around that particular area, and there's a lot
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 4: of areas still that is just farm. You go up
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 4: Route 11, you see cornfield, cornfield, cornfield. But, you know,
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 4: it's just if we allow these corporations to take over,
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 4: you know, sufficient amounts of these for these data centers
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 4: because it continues to grow and grow, what's it going
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 4: to leave us? You know, it's just... a bad idea,
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 4: especially when we have areas that can be reused.
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 2: I worry a lot about our farmers because, you know,
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 2: obviously they do a lot of spraying to keep the
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 2: weeds down in the cornfields and that kind of stuff.
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 2: And I worry about them because too many farmers end
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 2: up with, in some cases, some cancers and what have you.
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 2: And I don't know if it's from the Roundup that
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 2: they're spraying on the fields.
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 7: That's a fact, definitely, yeah.
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 2: And I think that has an effect.
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 4: I think a lot of people, too, when I grew up,
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 4: everybody in the neighborhood had a garden. You had fruit trees.
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 4: Everybody had apple trees, peach trees, pear trees. It was
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 4: just a situation where people grew their own produce. They
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 4: talk about affordability. Well, when you can grow your own
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 4: produce and make it more affordable in that way, but
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 4: yet you see you go down to 224 and every
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 4: restaurant just about every night is packed. And it's like,
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 4: where's the affordability situation here? Do these people have enough
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 4: money to go out to dinner? I used to work
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 4: in the restaurant industry at Chick-fil-A in particular, and I
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 4: could not believe people that came in there basically six
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 4: days a week. And it's like you're talking about affordability,
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 4: but you have all this money to be able to
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 4: spend on going out to eat instead of going to
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 4: the grocery store. And in one amount that you're spending
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 4: on one night at the restaurant, you can buy an
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 4: entire week or two weeks' worth of groceries. It's not
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 4: necessarily an affordability situation. I think it's a convenience situation
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 4: with people anymore.
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but one thing is, first of all, who doesn't
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 2: love Chick-fil-A? And secondly, at least Chick-fil-A is still relatively affordable.
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 2: I mean, the quality of food you get and what
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 2: you're paying for, it's pretty reasonable.
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 4: I totally agree. But it's still getting up to the
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 4: point where, you know, you go to Chick-fil-A and it's
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 4: not too much below some of the sit-down restaurants you
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 4: go to. Of course, you have to pay tips and
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 4: that kind of thing, which makes it more expensive. But
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 4: when you're going out to dinner six, seven times a week,
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 4: I don't know if it's an affordability problem for you.
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 4: You know, gas, $ 4 a gallon isn't necessarily... too important
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 4: when you're going out to dinner six, seven nights a week.
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 4: It's just crazy. My wife hates going out to dinner.
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 4: We might go out to dinner once every couple months
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 4: simply because she's a great cook and we eat at home.
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 4: There's no need to go out. I hate spending money
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 4: on a huge meal and then you have to pay
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 4: the tip, and everybody wants a tip anymore, too. It's
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 4: not just a sit-down restaurant. It's just getting to the
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 4: point where it gets way too much. My wife can
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 4: cook better meals than anything that we can get out there.
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 2: I would say that's true for my wife, too. I'm blessed.
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 2: My wife's a really good cook, too. But I still
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 2: love my Chick-fil-A, and I still love my Chipotle. I mean,
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I love Chick-fil-A, too. I can't say I don't,
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 4: but it's just one of those situations where I'm not
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 4: going to go out there if I can make chicken
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 4: at home.
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 2: Just as you're talking, I'm starting to think, boy, I
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 2: wish I could get some Chick-fil-A lemonade.
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 7: Well, really?
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 4: I thought you were going to say waffle.
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 7: Fries.
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 2: No, no, lemonade and that kind of stuff. It's like, yeah,
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean? And it's like, I'm a
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 2: fan of the Cobb salad, hold the eggs.
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 4: Oh, God, yeah, I love the Cobb salad. I used
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 4: to get a free meal every day, so I would
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 4: be able to take that home with me, and I
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 4: just got to the point where You know, I didn't
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 4: know what to choose. Every night it was either chicken
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 4: sandwich or a grilled chicken sandwich or the Cobb salad,
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 4: which was my favorite. You know, it was fantastic.
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 7: And the sausage.
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 4: I love the sausage.
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 2: Your standard, I don't know how they do it, how
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 2: they get that taste. Like, you know, I'm a fan
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 2: of the number one. I'm talking Chick-fil-A lingo to you.
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 2: The number one, the standard Chick-fil-A sandwich with the pickle
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 2: on it. It just has a great taste to it.
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 4: Well, the big thing is it's made, it's done all,
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 4: it's raw chicken. We breaded it there. We breaded it there.
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 4: Everything was flavored there. The recipe with the breading is secret.
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 4: And it was just, you know, making it fresh. We
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 4: couldn't keep, you know, food up fast enough. It just
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 4: went out so fast that every time you got it,
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 4: it was fresh and hot. And we would not serve
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 4: it unless it was fresh. you know, the best out there.
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 4: So it was just, and I worked at the one
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 4: in Tiffany Square Plaza, and we had an operator there.
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 4: It was fantastic.
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, great guy. He retired a while back, didn't he?
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 4: He retired, and the woman that was the general manager
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 4: there bought it out, and she's fantastic, too. She's just
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 4: a wonderful person. She's gotten involved in the community in
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 4: so many years. She's a big YSU fan. They're wonderful.
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 2: I live in Austin. I go to that one from
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 2: time to time, but I go to the one in
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 2: Austintown quite frequently. To own a Chick-fil-A, I think you
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 2: have to have worked there, don't you, before you can
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 2: even have the franchise?
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 7: Yes.
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you have to work there for quite a long time.
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 4: And it's a very– the person that owns Tiffany Square
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 4: has worked for Chick-fil-A for, geez, 40-plus years. And it
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 4: took her a while to get that whole process. She
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 4: was competing with other potential owners. And I believe you
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 4: can only own no more than two. It's not like
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 4: a franchise situation like Covelli who can own 500 restaurants
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 4: of whatever variety, like Panera. Chick-fil-A, you can only own,
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 4: I think it's a maximum of two, so you're able
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 4: to control it much better. But the amount of volume
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 4: they do at one particular Chick-fil-A is tremendous. I could
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 4: not believe when I first started working there what they
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 4: told me they made as far as revenue per year.
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 4: It was just outstanding. It was unbelievable.
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but look at the lines at the drive-thru. I mean,
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 2: just look at how busy it is all of the time.
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's just– and plus they're closed on Sunday.
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's– Yeah, think about that.
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  Speaker 4: That's 52 Sundays a year you're not open plus holidays.
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 4: That's a lot of revenue they're laying on the table.
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's a man who's– please stand by for me.
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 2: Hang on a minute, all right? I want to come
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 2: back down. That's a guy who believes deeply in his faith.
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 2: I want to talk a little bit more to that guy,
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 2: and then I get back to more of your calls.
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 2: Stay tuned.
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  Speaker 2: degrees see this is just so so everything's fresh they
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 2: bread it right there they cook it right there were
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  Speaker 2: you there when they did the spicy chicken sandwich.
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 4: Yes, I was. They still have the spicy chicken sandwich.
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 4: I know. That's made fresh as well.
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  Speaker 2: And is that the same thing, only they put spices
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 2: on it?
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  Speaker 4: Well, it's a different type of breading. The breading's got
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 4: a different, and a marinade. The marinade is a little different.
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 4: It's got some spices in there to make it a
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 4: spicy sandwich. But it's the regular chicken, and they just
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 4: bread it in either the regular breading or the spicy
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 4: breading with a different marinade.
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  Speaker 2: And what do they do?
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 4: It's all made fresh.
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 2: And then do they deep fry that?
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 7: Right?
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 2: Or no?
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 4: It's deep-fried, yeah. All the fresh chicken is all deep-fried
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 4: with peanut oil. And then, you know, and it's served fresh.
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 4: And we can't keep it. The place is so busy,
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 4: you can't keep it up fast enough. Because you're not
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 4: only doing fillets, you're also doing the tenders as well
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 4: as the nuggets. They sell nuggets like crazy. You would
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 4: not believe how many nuggets they sell there. It's amazing.
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  Speaker 2: I think they used to make the lemonade on location.
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 2: I believe they order that in now. Does that sound right?
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 4: Well, when I first started working in there, it was
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 4: like five years ago. All the lemons, we all got
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 4: cases and cases of lemons. And we had a machine
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 4: that would squeeze the lemon juice out of the lemon,
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 4: and it was all done from scratch. And right now
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 4: we get the– they changed over to the lemons– that
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 4: are squeezed but, you know, sent to the store that way.
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 4: You don't have to actually spend the labor to actually
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 4: squeeze them out of the lemon. But, you know, you
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 4: still make it. It's still fresh, you know, and everything
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 4: is done. The tea is made fresh. The lemonade is
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 4: made fresh. Everything is done fresh, you know. And the
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 4: fact that they have such great volume keeps them relevant.
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 2: And it's clean. It's not like a filthy place, I mean.
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 4: Oh, my God, you would not believe. I worked in
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 4: other restaurants before, and I could not believe how many
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 4: times we mopped the floor there. I mean, the floor
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 4: was constantly wet because you were constantly mopping it. And
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 4: I was the director, and I would run shifts, and
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 4: it's like it was an automatic thing. And it's not
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 4: just the regular floors, but the dining room floor and
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 4: then the restrooms. One of the things my wife and
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 4: I do when we go to a restaurant we've never
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 4: been to before is you first go to the restroom.
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 4: If the restroom's clean, then you know the back is
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 4: clean and everything else is clean because we spend that
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 4: kind of time on the restrooms, which gives you an
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 4: indication of how the whole restaurant is. But Chick-fil-A, every
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 4: Chick-fil-A is just super, super clean. And I know the
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 4: one that's in Tiffany Square, they used to get, The audits,
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 4: which were done by companies that were outside, they would
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 4: always get in the highest mark they could get. I
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 4: think they were like six, seven times in a row,
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 4: which was the best out there. It's just amazing. It's very,
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 4: very clean.
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  Speaker 2: That guy who's retired from there, he was a hell
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 2: of an operator. I think he's down in Florida now, retired.
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 4: Actually, no. He's moved over to the Hiram area. His
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 4: daughter lives over there, and I think he lives right
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 4: across the street. But he does have a place in Florida, too.
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 4: But he was an operator for years. He had the
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 4: place in the mall. And then they moved it down
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 4: the street to 224 and then across the street to
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 4: the present restaurant. But now they have the Chick-fil-A down
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 4: the street on 224. And they built that restaurant simply
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 4: to take volume away from the Tiffany Square because it
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 4: was too busy. I mean, that's kind of crazy when
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 4: you've got a situation like that, but it was too busy.
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 4: So they had to take a little bit of volume
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 4: off to it.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you see how crazy. how busy that is. It's unbelievable.
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 2: Then you take a look at like the Austintown one
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 2: is really, and they're all so well run. Now what's
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 2: up with the, it's my pleasure. It's my pleasure. Is
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 2: that just part of the training?
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 4: Yes, my pleasure. It's beat into you from the moment.
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 4: I was with the training director then. You have to
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 4: beat it into these people. If you don't hear it,
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 4: you're on top of it. You make sure that they
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 4: take care of saying that. My pleasure. That's something that
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 4: started way back when Truett Cathy started the restaurant chain,
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 4: way back when. It was all about the customer experience.
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 4: It's not just the quality of the food, but it
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 4: was also the... You know, the my pleasure and the
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 4: way you're treated, that southern kind of comfort situation. You know,
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 4: and that's where I came from. It's a southern thing.
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's so coherent, all of this kind of stuff.
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 4: Well, even the Caffey family, too, it's still privately held,
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 4: which enables them to still be closed on Sundays. And
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 4: they have a very deep religious background, but you're not
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 4: pushed into that kind of thing when you work there.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I was Catholic and born and raised kind
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 4: of situation.
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  Speaker 2: So basically what I've learned is, I mean, the kitchen's
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 2: under a lot of stress to keep cooking constantly because...
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 2: as soon as you make it, it goes out the door.
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  Speaker 4: Basically, it's just you have to be fast. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: I'm I'm retired now. Sixty five. And, you know, they
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 4: put me back in the kitchen a couple of times.
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  Speaker 4: It was like, I can't do this. There's no way.
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 4: I mean, I used to be fast with that kind
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 4: of thing. But you have to have people that, you know,
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 4: have to keep it moving. It's not just the sandwiches.
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 4: It's the people in the fryer area. You've got seven,
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 4: eight fryers back there cooking chicken.
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  Speaker 2: How many people would be back in the kitchen? You've
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 2: got to have a bunch of them just working behind
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 2: the scenes.
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  Speaker 4: Well, you have two lines, basically. You've got three. You
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 4: have at least 15 people just in the back of
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 4: the kitchen, depending upon whether it's lunchtime, dinnertime. you know,
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 4: or closing, that kind of thing. And then you had
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 4: typically on a normal shift, you have at least 30
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 4: some people, you know, on a shift. And I've worked
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 4: at other lower volume restaurants like Arby's in Panera. I
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 4: wanted to work at a restaurant there. I worked at
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 4: their fresh dough facility, but I worked at Arby's and,
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 4: you know, you had 12 people at lunchtime. That was
• 1:59:14
  Speaker 4: a crazy amount, you know? So imagine when I went
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 4: from The Arby's situation I had years ago to Chick-fil-A,
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 4: and you've got 30-some people working at a shift. But
• 1:59:26
  Speaker 4: you can see why with the volumes they did. I
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 4: don't want to share great numbers to the point that
• 1:59:34
  Speaker 4: I shouldn't, but you're talking about a McDonald's or a popular...
• 1:59:39
  Speaker 4: McDonald's or a McDonald's that was really busy does maybe
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 4: one-fifth the volume of a typical Chick-fil-A. Your average Chick-fil-A
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 4: restaurant does $ 8 million in revenue a year. That's your
• 1:59:52
  Speaker 4: average one. You know, this one at Tiffany's Square was
• 1:59:56
  Speaker 4: a lot more than that.
• 1:59:58
  Speaker 2: I think people would be shocked if they knew how
• 1:59:59
  Speaker 2: much Sam's Club did in this community. I'm not talking...
• 2:00:03
  Speaker 2: Once someone was telling me what it does weekly, it
• 2:00:07
  Speaker 2: was weekly or monthly, and it was unbelievable numbers.
• 2:00:10
  Speaker 4: Unbelievable.
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  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 2:00:13
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's... I think, you know, when Gale had
• 2:00:25
  Speaker 4: the restaurant when it was in the mall, I mean,
• 2:00:27
  Speaker 4: he barely survived. But the restaurant he left when he retired,
• 2:00:31
  Speaker 4: I mean, that made him a millionaire.
• 2:00:33
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, and it should. He deserved every penny of it.
• 2:00:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and he built that restaurant. He built that system.
• 2:00:38
  Speaker 4: He was a leader in the entire Chick-fil-A system. In fact,
• 2:00:41
  Speaker 4: that one that is over there now was the first
• 2:00:44
  Speaker 4: one north of the Mason-Dixon line because it really is
• 2:00:48
  Speaker 4: a southern thing. it's down south you go down there
• 2:00:53
  Speaker 4: it's a religion I mean the people the customers are
• 2:00:56
  Speaker 4: just it's a religion and even the employees and the
• 2:01:00
  Speaker 4: management and the people they get to run these restaurants
• 2:01:03
  Speaker 4: it's like a fanatical religious kind of like experience they
• 2:01:07
  Speaker 4: have these huge gatherings of five ten thousand people operators
• 2:01:13
  Speaker 4: and everything in these that they rent out these huge
• 2:01:15
  Speaker 4: halls that down south to bring everybody in and it's
• 2:01:19
  Speaker 4: just it's like You just can't believe you're talking about
• 2:01:22
  Speaker 4: a business. You're talking about a restaurant. It's not a religion,
• 2:01:25
  Speaker 4: but they act like it is.
• 2:01:27
  Speaker 2: But it's like you say, it's family-owned. If I remember correctly,
• 2:01:31
  Speaker 2: like when it comes to building a building there, I
• 2:01:33
  Speaker 2: think the Chick-fil-A pays for the building, the actual structure.
• 2:01:37
  Speaker 6: Yes, they do.
• 2:01:38
  Speaker 4: As a matter of fact, that's a unique situation, too.
• 2:01:40
  Speaker 4: The owner-operator doesn't have to. They don't know the building.
• 2:01:44
  Speaker 4: They don't know the equipment. You know, you're maintaining it,
• 2:01:48
  Speaker 4: but you don't have that overhead. If you want to
• 2:01:51
  Speaker 4: be a owner, you don't have that huge overhead of
• 2:01:53
  Speaker 4: having to put $ 2 million down to buy the building
• 2:01:57
  Speaker 4: and buy the equipment. You have to maintain it. And
• 2:02:00
  Speaker 4: Chick-fil-A pays for replacements of the equipment, too. So everything
• 2:02:04
  Speaker 4: you have is relatively brand new stuff.
• 2:02:06
  Speaker 2: And, well, they're like your partner, if you will, on it.
• 2:02:09
  Speaker 4: Exactly.
• 2:02:10
  Speaker 2: But they treat people well. And it's like.
• 2:02:14
  Speaker 4: And the buy-in's only like $ 10, 000.
• 2:02:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean, the family is still family-run and operated.
• 2:02:22
  Speaker 2: And I'm sure there's people, oh, we could open on
• 2:02:24
  Speaker 2: Sunday and we'll make a bunch more money. But they
• 2:02:27
  Speaker 2: religiously don't believe that, and they don't need to. And
• 2:02:30
  Speaker 2: everybody knows they're closed on Sunday. Another interesting story is
• 2:02:33
  Speaker 2: that guy that started Raising Cane's that— He owns all
• 2:02:38
  Speaker 2: of those locations. That's still personally owned by that guy.
• 2:02:42
  Speaker 2: And his philosophy was we're going to make a quality
• 2:02:44
  Speaker 2: product and we're going to sell it at a reasonable price.
• 2:02:46
  Speaker 2: And it still is. But can you imagine how often,
• 2:02:51
  Speaker 2: I mean, the amount of chicken that just Chick-fil-A has
• 2:02:54
  Speaker 2: to buy? Just chicken. I mean, and the deliveries have
• 2:02:58
  Speaker 2: got to be coming in just to fulfill that type
• 2:03:01
  Speaker 2: of demand.
• 2:03:01
  Speaker 4: We had deliveries seven days a week.
• 2:03:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:03:05
  Speaker 4: Seven days a week. And it was crazy. I'm used
• 2:03:07
  Speaker 4: to a situated lower-volume restaurant kind of thing. You might
• 2:03:10
  Speaker 4: get a delivery or one or two a week at
• 2:03:13
  Speaker 4: the most. But if you don't get seven days, you
• 2:03:15
  Speaker 4: can't run.
• 2:03:18
  Speaker 2: Now, when you were at Arby's, don't they put that
• 2:03:19
  Speaker 2: roast beef in the night before?
• 2:03:22
  Speaker 4: No, it's cooked relatively throughout the day. You have roast
• 2:03:25
  Speaker 4: beef that you had before. prior to that, which was
• 2:03:29
  Speaker 4: kept in a warmer that you were able to use
• 2:03:30
  Speaker 4: at the beginning of the day. But most of the
• 2:03:32
  Speaker 4: roasts were made. It takes about four hours. A lot
• 2:03:35
  Speaker 4: of people don't think that's roast beef, but it's beef
• 2:03:37
  Speaker 4: chunks put together with a beef binder, and that's a
• 2:03:43
  Speaker 4: roast that's kind of formed, and you cook it in
• 2:03:46
  Speaker 4: the oven simply from that. It takes about four hours
• 2:03:49
  Speaker 4: to roast one of those roast beefs. But most of
• 2:03:52
  Speaker 4: what they sell anymore isn't roast beef. You know, it's
• 2:03:55
  Speaker 4: the other meats that they sell, and there's so many
• 2:03:57
  Speaker 4: of them anymore. It's crazy.
• 2:03:58
  Speaker 2: Well, no, you mean on the roast beef? Well, the
• 2:04:00
  Speaker 2: roast beef sandwich would be roast beef, right?
• 2:04:03
  Speaker 4: Oh, it is, but a lot of people don't think
• 2:04:05
  Speaker 4: it is. They think it's a manufactured product or something,
• 2:04:07
  Speaker 4: but what it is is actual roast beef chunks that
• 2:04:11
  Speaker 4: is kind of, they use a binder almost that forms
• 2:04:14
  Speaker 4: the roast, so it's workable. So it's not just a
• 2:04:17
  Speaker 4: big chunk of roast beef like you would buy at
• 2:04:19
  Speaker 4: the grocery store. It's a formed roast that is all
• 2:04:23
  Speaker 4: roast beef products. You have chunks of roast beef that
• 2:04:26
  Speaker 4: is kind of binded all together with a roast beef
• 2:04:30
  Speaker 4: kind of solution binder. I can't describe it any better
• 2:04:32
  Speaker 4: than that. And then it's cooked and shaved, and it
• 2:04:37
  Speaker 4: is roast beef. I mean, people think it isn't sometimes,
• 2:04:39
  Speaker 4: but it is.
• 2:04:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and that Arby's sauce is really good stuff, the
• 2:04:43
  Speaker 2: orange one.
• 2:04:44
  Speaker 4: I'm a horsey sauce kind of guy, but sometimes I'll
• 2:04:46
  Speaker 4: put both Arby's and horsey sauces. But I worked for
• 2:04:50
  Speaker 4: them way back in the 80s and 90s, way back when.
• 2:04:54
  Speaker 4: In fact, when that tornado happened, I was driving down
• 2:04:56
  Speaker 4: to— I was assistant manager at the North Road one, right
• 2:05:01
  Speaker 4: down where that tornado went through. And my employees were
• 2:05:03
  Speaker 4: telling me how that tornado was bobbing up and down and,
• 2:05:06
  Speaker 4: you know, wiping out Niles as it went through. You know,
• 2:05:09
  Speaker 4: I worked there as— I think for 14, 15 years.
• 2:05:14
  Speaker 4: Then I worked for Schwebel's for almost 22. I was
• 2:05:17
  Speaker 4: a manager there for quite a long time. And then
• 2:05:19
  Speaker 4: I was a production manager for Panera, their fresh dough
• 2:05:22
  Speaker 4: facility in Elm Road. So I've been in the food
• 2:05:24
  Speaker 4: industry for quite a long time.
• 2:05:27
  Speaker 6: Thank God.
• 2:05:27
  Speaker 4: That's why I'm retired now. My body's so beat up
• 2:05:30
  Speaker 4: from that.
• 2:05:31
  Speaker 2: Oh, it's grueling. But, I mean, if you look at, like,
• 2:05:34
  Speaker 2: I mean, just in our tenure on the planet, I mean,
• 2:05:39
  Speaker 2: Arby's from our community, and it's still really good. And
• 2:05:42
  Speaker 2: then you take a look at Chick-fil-A, and then you
• 2:05:46
  Speaker 2: take a look at Chipotle and Raising Cane's. I mean,
• 2:05:49
  Speaker 2: we've got some good, what you would consider fast food places,
• 2:05:53
  Speaker 2: but I just consider places to eat that offer variety
• 2:05:57
  Speaker 2: and are still relatively affordable to a large extent. I mean,
• 2:06:03
  Speaker 2: with a certain degree of quality, if you will.
• 2:06:08
  Speaker 4: There's a lot of restaurants that do that, but there's
• 2:06:10
  Speaker 4: some that, you know, you go to... certain restaurants, you
• 2:06:13
  Speaker 4: know not to visit there again. It's just they don't
• 2:06:15
  Speaker 4: keep up on employees. You know, and that's one of
• 2:06:17
  Speaker 4: the things, too, that was really unique with Chick-fil-A. We
• 2:06:20
  Speaker 4: had no problem really hiring people. A lot of these
• 2:06:23
  Speaker 4: young kids were drawn there. They would tell their friends
• 2:06:26
  Speaker 4: and their friends, and, you know, it was almost like
• 2:06:28
  Speaker 4: a magnet that brought, you know, people into the restaurant,
• 2:06:31
  Speaker 4: you know, these young kids to work. And then we
• 2:06:33
  Speaker 4: had the older people, too. There's a guy named Craig
• 2:06:35
  Speaker 4: Goldsmith that works at the One at Tiffany Square, he's
• 2:06:40
  Speaker 4: 75 years old. He's the guy that everybody loves. He
• 2:06:45
  Speaker 4: does story time with the kids. He's even dressed in
• 2:06:48
  Speaker 4: the cow outfit. And he's just a fantastic guy. He's
• 2:06:51
  Speaker 4: amazing with kids and with people out in the dining room.
• 2:06:55
  Speaker 4: And that's another thing. They have dining room attendants. Where
• 2:06:58
  Speaker 4: do you go that you have an attendant? in the
• 2:07:01
  Speaker 4: factory industry where they come in and, you know, it
• 2:07:04
  Speaker 4: was mandatory. You would have to go out there and,
• 2:07:05
  Speaker 4: you know, can I get a refill on your drink?
• 2:07:08
  Speaker 4: Can I refresh your beverage? Can I get you your sauces?
• 2:07:12
  Speaker 4: Can I get your napkins? What can I do? And
• 2:07:14
  Speaker 4: can I get you a mint to finish off your meal?
• 2:07:17
  Speaker 4: Would you care for a mint? The mints were, we'd
• 2:07:19
  Speaker 4: buy cases of mints and we'd go through those mints
• 2:07:22
  Speaker 4: like crazy. You know, it was just, and people come
• 2:07:26
  Speaker 4: there for that environment as well as the car. It's
• 2:07:28
  Speaker 4: the entire package.
• 2:07:29
  Speaker 2: All right. It's phenomenal. Although I would like to know,
• 2:07:32
  Speaker 2: what's the secret of the McDonald's Coke? Because it's so
• 2:07:36
  Speaker 2: much better than most places you go. I mean, it's McDonald's.
• 2:07:39
  Speaker 3: A lot of it's the carbonation.
• 2:07:40
  Speaker 4: You know, the systems are all set up to carbonate
• 2:07:43
  Speaker 4: a certain way. And I think you get a little bit,
• 2:07:47
  Speaker 4: the mix is different. Every one of those systems are
• 2:07:50
  Speaker 4: all set up, and usually you get your Coke or
• 2:07:52
  Speaker 4: your Pepsi person in there to calibrate that kind of thing,
• 2:07:55
  Speaker 4: but every restaurant does it, you know, restaurant system does
• 2:07:59
  Speaker 4: it in a certain way and a certain formula, which
• 2:08:01
  Speaker 4: is why one tastes better than another. But also, you know,
• 2:08:04
  Speaker 4: it's got to be the operator and the people working
• 2:08:06
  Speaker 4: there that have to make sure they maintain it. They
• 2:08:09
  Speaker 4: have a bag-in-the-box system, which is a bag of the
• 2:08:12
  Speaker 4: syrup which is retained in a box, and if that
• 2:08:14
  Speaker 4: runs out, You know, you're not going to get a
• 2:08:17
  Speaker 4: full mixture of the syrup as to the carbonated water.
• 2:08:20
  Speaker 4: So that, you know, happens on occasion. But you have
• 2:08:22
  Speaker 4: to stay on top of that.
• 2:08:24
  Speaker 2: And it's something. And you go through all of this
• 2:08:26
  Speaker 2: and you lived all of this. And then you say,
• 2:08:30
  Speaker 2: but my wife's a really good cook, so there's no
• 2:08:31
  Speaker 2: reason for me really to go out. And in all reality,
• 2:08:34
  Speaker 2: when my wife cooks, she's a really good cook, too.
• 2:08:36
  Speaker 2: And it's like, you know, it's like, oh, I mean,
• 2:08:40
  Speaker 2: it's really good.
• 2:08:42
  Speaker 4: My wife has got, you know, to be such a
• 2:08:44
  Speaker 4: great cook, she's got like 20, she's like the soup lady,
• 2:08:47
  Speaker 4: you know, like from science or the other soup guys.
• 2:08:50
  Speaker 4: She has like 20 different soups she makes, and she's
• 2:08:54
  Speaker 4: half Italian and half Croatian, and she makes it. great spaghetti,
• 2:08:58
  Speaker 4: you know, and it was funny because when I met her,
• 2:09:00
  Speaker 4: her mother was born and raised in Italy for the
• 2:09:03
  Speaker 4: first 10 years, and she made the worst spaghetti I've
• 2:09:05
  Speaker 4: ever had.
• 2:09:08
  Speaker 2: But you had to act like you liked it, didn't you?
• 2:09:10
  Speaker 4: Come on. It was like, oh, Bob, that's wonderful spaghetti.
• 2:09:14
  Speaker 4: It was terrible. I was like, oh, my God.
• 2:09:16
  Speaker 13: I married this lady thinking, oh, my God, Italian.
• 2:09:18
  Speaker 4: I'm going to get some great Italian food. And she
• 2:09:21
  Speaker 4: made the worst Italian food I've ever tasted.
• 2:09:24
  Speaker 2: But she never said anything. I mean, if you think,
• 2:09:28
  Speaker 2: I mean, there's a lot of good places to go.
• 2:09:31
  Speaker 2: You've got to call more often. I really enjoyed talking
• 2:09:33
  Speaker 2: to you. You're a delight, and I appreciate you.
• 2:09:35
  Speaker 4: I just wanted to say one other thing, too, about
• 2:09:37
  Speaker 4: the school system, too. I live in Austintown. I kind
• 2:09:40
  Speaker 4: of live right down the street from you, and my
• 2:09:42
  Speaker 4: kids live at the Austintown schools. And I just want
• 2:09:44
  Speaker 4: to say, you know, when you're talking about the money
• 2:09:46
  Speaker 4: they need, especially like in Austintown, they build this $ 14
• 2:09:49
  Speaker 4: million sports facility. Yeah. And at that time, you watch
• 2:09:53
  Speaker 4: the football games. They have artificial turf. I played football
• 2:09:57
  Speaker 4: back in the 70s, and we played on grass, and
• 2:10:00
  Speaker 4: we played in facilities that were old. These kids are
• 2:10:03
  Speaker 4: playing on facilities that are almost college or pro. You
• 2:10:08
  Speaker 4: want more money for what?
• 2:10:12
  Speaker 2: I'm never going to vote for a levy. You can
• 2:10:14
  Speaker 2: count on that.
• 2:10:14
  Speaker 4: I don't either. I do not vote. In fact, after
• 2:10:17
  Speaker 4: listening today, I usually used to vote for the— levy
• 2:10:21
  Speaker 4: for the retarded school system. I can't remember the name.
• 2:10:26
  Speaker 4: I'm losing my mind as I get older. I used
• 2:10:29
  Speaker 4: to vote for that, but now after listening to the pharmacist,
• 2:10:33
  Speaker 4: I'm not voting for any levy. I'm retired now, but
• 2:10:39
  Speaker 4: It's against my belief, and I've got to tell you,
• 2:10:42
  Speaker 4: you educate me in so many ways simply because of
• 2:10:46
  Speaker 4: the people, the quality of the people that you get
• 2:10:48
  Speaker 4: on there, like G2 and Rich the Pharmacist and the
• 2:10:52
  Speaker 4: Boss Lady. I listen to your show as much as
• 2:10:55
  Speaker 4: I can to get informed, you know, because I don't
• 2:10:57
  Speaker 4: have I have the time, but I don't have the
• 2:11:00
  Speaker 4: desire to read papers and get on there like you do.
• 2:11:03
  Speaker 4: And I admire all the information that you put out there,
• 2:11:06
  Speaker 4: you know, and your ability to say that I don't
• 2:11:08
  Speaker 4: believe in this, but I believe in this like Trump.
• 2:11:11
  Speaker 4: I followed, you know, the way you feel about Trump
• 2:11:14
  Speaker 4: right down the same way. You know, it's like I
• 2:11:17
  Speaker 4: followed him. I voted for him three times. But, yeah,
• 2:11:19
  Speaker 4: I don't agree with this long-term war situation. It's time
• 2:11:23
  Speaker 4: to get out. You know, get out of there and
• 2:11:26
  Speaker 4: let's get gas prices back down to where they should be.
• 2:11:29
  Speaker 2: Right, but I won't vote for a Democrat, I can
• 2:11:30
  Speaker 2: assure you that.
• 2:11:32
  Speaker 4: That's the thing is that you're going for the better
• 2:11:34
  Speaker 4: of two evils anymore.
• 2:11:35
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 2:11:36
  Speaker 4: We just don't get qualified politicians in there to be
• 2:11:39
  Speaker 4: able to say, this guy is definitely, like this Dave
• 2:11:42
  Speaker 4: Thomas guy, he is outstanding. He's a guy that I
• 2:11:45
  Speaker 4: would vote for in a heartbeat.
• 2:11:47
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, he is. He's a great guy. And according
• 2:11:51
  Speaker 2: to my wife, he's cute. All right, I'm done.
• 2:11:52
  Speaker 7: All right.
• 2:11:54
  Speaker 4: Bye.
• 2:11:56
  Speaker 2: I'll see you in town.
• 2:11:57
  Speaker 7: All right?
• 2:11:58
  Speaker 4: I'm going to have to ask my wife about.
• 2:12:02
  Speaker 7: That.
• 2:12:03
  Speaker 2: Hey, to quote the unknown caller, I got to go.
• 2:12:06
  Speaker 7: Okay.
• 2:12:07
  Speaker 6: See you.
• 2:12:08
  Speaker 2: Got to go. What a joy it is talking to
• 2:12:10
  Speaker 2: that guy. What an absolute joy. You're on the air.
• 2:12:14
  Speaker 7: Ronald.
• 2:12:16
  Speaker 2: Boy, you got the best of me yesterday.
• 2:12:17
  Speaker 7: You really.
• 2:12:20
  Speaker 2: I mean, it was hook, line, and sinker from you.
• 2:12:23
  Speaker 25: I'm going to lead in with a 10 to C.
• 2:12:25
  Speaker 25: You didn't even catch it.
• 2:12:27
  Speaker 18: That's what he does.
• 2:12:28
  Speaker 25: That's his thing.
• 2:12:28
  Speaker 7: Ronald.
• 2:12:30
  Speaker 26: You didn't even catch it this time.
• 2:12:33
  Speaker 2: Because I'm so distracted on what you did yesterday.
• 2:12:36
  Speaker 7: That was hilarious.
• 2:12:37
  Speaker 25: Like, I literally laughed to myself for 10 minutes.
• 2:12:40
  Speaker 2: I fell for this. I mean, I was a total sucker.
• 2:12:44
  Speaker 6: I did that to you, man.
• 2:12:45
  Speaker 26: You came easy, too. It was easy.
• 2:12:47
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
• 2:12:48
  Speaker 13: I got to tell you, that was easy.
• 2:12:49
  Speaker 2: Because she did it. Hey, Ron, and I fell for it. Oh,
• 2:12:53
  Speaker 2: one more thing.
• 2:12:54
  Speaker 12: Oh, what's that?
• 2:12:55
  Speaker 2: And then she slam dunked it and then just moved
• 2:12:58
  Speaker 2: right on. And I sat there. It was like, boom.
• 2:13:00
  Speaker 2: It was like there was smoke and destruction and nothing else.
• 2:13:04
  Speaker 25: I was even laughing, hoping the unknown caller heard me,
• 2:13:07
  Speaker 25: because I thought he would freaking get a kick.
• 2:13:09
  Speaker 2: Out of that, too.
• 2:13:10
  Speaker 7: And he did.
• 2:13:11
  Speaker 13: I'm glad he did.
• 2:13:12
  Speaker 7: I'm glad he did.
• 2:13:12
  Speaker 25: That was so funny. You're one caller that was talking
• 2:13:16
  Speaker 25: about how they're going to threaten, you know, the sports
• 2:13:19
  Speaker 25: and stuff.
• 2:13:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 2:13:20
  Speaker 25: You know, don't be fearful of that. If people are listening,
• 2:13:23
  Speaker 25: they're worried about that. You know, we in Poland had,
• 2:13:27
  Speaker 25: you know, I always talk about wrestling, big wrestling family.
• 2:13:30
  Speaker 25: My kids wrestled.
• 2:13:31
  Speaker 2: No, it's really, it's wrassling.
• 2:13:35
  Speaker 26: Or anyway, we went, the school didn't, you know, at
• 2:13:40
  Speaker 26: one point our sport.
• 2:13:41
  Speaker 25: Has been off and on, now growing, right? But it
• 2:13:45
  Speaker 25: was off and on. And so you just form a
• 2:13:47
  Speaker 25: board into fun trays.
• 2:13:49
  Speaker 7: It's not that hard.
• 2:13:50
  Speaker 26: You know, the kids pay to play. And that's what
• 2:13:52
  Speaker 26: you do. I mean, they cannot, they're not going.
• 2:13:54
  Speaker 25: To cut the sport from you. You just have to
• 2:13:57
  Speaker 25: get more active.
• 2:13:59
  Speaker 26: And the parents should be active anyway if their kids
• 2:14:01
  Speaker 26: are playing sports, right?
• 2:14:02
  Speaker 25: I mean, you should be active.
• 2:14:03
  Speaker 3: You should be involved.
• 2:14:05
  Speaker 25: And if the parents can't, you know, then other people
• 2:14:08
  Speaker 25: pick up the slack.
• 2:14:09
  Speaker 7: You know, we cooked.
• 2:14:10
  Speaker 25: We did fundraisers. We paid for our coaches. We paid
• 2:14:13
  Speaker 25: for their equipment. We paid for our wrestler mats. We
• 2:14:17
  Speaker 25: paid for the cleaners. We paid for all the entry fees.
• 2:14:20
  Speaker 25: We paid for the insurance. We paid for everything from
• 2:14:22
  Speaker 25: soup to nuts. And so, like, don't, and it wasn't,
• 2:14:25
  Speaker 25: it wasn't, I mean, yeah, it's a lot of work
• 2:14:27
  Speaker 25: when there's only four or five people who always do everything, but.
• 2:14:30
  Speaker 26: Try to get people involved.
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  Speaker 25: That should not deter you. You know, like, they're not
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  Speaker 25: going to cut sports off. I mean, now they may cut,
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  Speaker 25: reduce a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: Of, You can only afford so much. I mean, this
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  Speaker 2: isn't a bottomless pit. Stand by. I've got a break.
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  Speaker 2: But before I break, I want you to hear this.
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  Speaker 2: How about that guy who said his wife was Italian,
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  Speaker 2: but his mother-in-law made the worst spaghetti?
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  Speaker 25: I was listening.
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  Speaker 26: I was shocked by that.
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  Speaker 2: Hang on, I'll be back with you in a minute.
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  Speaker 16: For 36 years, Chris Becker has dedicated his career to
• 2:15:05
  Speaker 16: the law, including 26 years serving Trumbull County as an
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  Speaker 16: assistant prosecutor and first assistant. Named Ohio's Assistant Prosecutor of
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  Speaker 16: the Year, Becker has tried more cases in Trumbull County
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  Speaker 16: than any other attorney over the past 26 years. Now,
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  Speaker 16: Chris Becker is running for Common Pleas Judge as an independent,
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  Speaker 16: a lifetime commitment to our community and proven courtroom experience.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Chris Becker, and I would appreciate your vote. Paid
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  Speaker 2: for by Chris Becker for Judge. Adrienne Biviano, Treasurer.
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  Speaker 23: I'm Dr.
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  Speaker 12: Cheryl Figliano from 70 WKBN.
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  Speaker 2: So that last guy, Boss Lady, can you imagine? I mean,
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  Speaker 2: he's going over to his future mother-in-law, thinking she's Italian.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to get some great spaghetti, and it was
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  Speaker 2: the worst he's ever had. But you've got to act
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  Speaker 2: like you like it.
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  Speaker 12: What are the odds of that?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 13: Poor guy.
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  Speaker 25: Well, you say she could cook everything else well, so
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  Speaker 25: he still.
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  Speaker 26: Sounds like he's blessed.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess his wife's a good cook, yeah.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 14: Oh, yeah, his wife's a good cook.
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  Speaker 25: It was his mother-in-law that, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: That wasn't so good. Not the case, though. Not the
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  Speaker 2: case in your household, right? No, not at all.
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  Speaker 25: I mean, my husband can cook, too. I mean, he
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  Speaker 25: really can.
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  Speaker 5: He cooks.
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  Speaker 2: And he's good?
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  Speaker 26: He can cook.
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  Speaker 7: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 25: He can cook. I mean, he makes some dishes that
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  Speaker 25: I don't even make.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I don't try them.
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  Speaker 26: He makes some.
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  Speaker 13: Herder stuff.
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  Speaker 6: Really?
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  Speaker 26: I mean, Italian, I can't, you know, there's nothing Italian
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  Speaker 26: I can't make. But he makes, like, beef wellington and
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  Speaker 26: stuff like that.
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  Speaker 2: And it's good.
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  Speaker 7: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 26: It's fantastic.
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  Speaker 25: That's all he calls his baby.
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  Speaker 26: It's just called putting a little love into it.
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  Speaker 4: Get the hell out of here.
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  Speaker 6: Put a little love into it.
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  Speaker 2: Is that what he says? What a man that this
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  Speaker 2: woman married.
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  Speaker 25: Put a little love into it.
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  Speaker 2: See, all you guys out there, this is how a
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  Speaker 2: man operates. So he's cooking for the boss lady, and
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  Speaker 2: he says, I got to put a little love into it.
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  Speaker 8: Oh, God.
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  Speaker 5: I'm dying. He's funny.
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  Speaker 2: I could just see him doing that. You know what
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  Speaker 2: I mean?
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  Speaker 25: He dies, and he's funny when he dies, too.
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  Speaker 26: But they kind of crack it on me, trying to
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  Speaker 26: make it sound like I'm always in.
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  Speaker 7: A rush, you know?
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  Speaker 25: But in color tea, he'll just put a little love
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  Speaker 25: into it.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's what he does. So when it's done, it
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  Speaker 2: tastes delicious. What else does he make that's good? Beef Wellington.
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  Speaker 25: Oh, he makes, what is my favorite thing? City chicken
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  Speaker 25: is one of my favorite. I mean, honestly, that might
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  Speaker 25: be my favorite, favorite thing to be made.
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  Speaker 26: I love city chicken.
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  Speaker 7: That's pork.
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  Speaker 26: It's not chicken.
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  Speaker 3: You know that, right?
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  Speaker 25: He makes really good meatloaf.
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  Speaker 26: I mean, of course, steaks and stuff, but that's easy.
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  Speaker 25: He makes a really good bolognese, which I would say
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  Speaker 25: his bolognese is even better than It's different, though.
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  Speaker 26: You can't compare bolognese to, like, my meat sauce, my
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  Speaker 26: traditional meat sauce.
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  Speaker 4: Like, I'll smash him on that.
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  Speaker 26: But, like, a bolognese, his bolognese is fantastic.
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  Speaker 2: What about who makes the soup?
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  Speaker 26: I made, listen, I slam dunked beef vegetable soup this week.
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  Speaker 25: I mean, listen, I mean, I crushed it.
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  Speaker 13: It was so good.
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  Speaker 25: I mean, I was just standing there waiting for everybody's response.
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  Speaker 26: Because if it wasn't like you killed it.
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  Speaker 25: And this was fantastic. There was going to be no more.
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  Speaker 3: Beef soup because.
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  Speaker 13: That's how good I knew it was.
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  Speaker 26: And they did.
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  Speaker 25: They told me. And they wanted to make sure they
• 2:18:44
  Speaker 25: noted that.
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  Speaker 2: So you sit around waiting for the reviews.
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  Speaker 26: Well, sometimes.
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  Speaker 25: Sometimes I just walk away and I'll listen.
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  Speaker 3: But no, we laugh.
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  Speaker 25: I mean, listen, we laugh a lot over here.
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  Speaker 26: I mean, we're always messing around and joking.
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  Speaker 7: But yeah, no, I listen.
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  Speaker 26: You know, sometimes your children.
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  Speaker 25: Are a little too honest where you want to just,
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  Speaker 25: you know.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes they're too honest? What do they say?
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  Speaker 22: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 26: I mean, I made a turkey.
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  Speaker 25: I'm not, listen, I'm not a turkey. I don't ever
• 2:19:16
  Speaker 25: make the turkey. I make everything else.
• 2:19:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and?
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  Speaker 25: I'll make all stuffing.
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  Speaker 26: My stuffing is phenomenal.
• 2:19:21
  Speaker 2: And what do they say about that?
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  Speaker 26: Well, I made a turkey one time. I'll never make
• 2:19:25
  Speaker 26: it again because most of them asked for glasses of
• 2:19:29
  Speaker 26: milk and they were choking.
• 2:19:30
  Speaker 25: And my husband tried. My husband tried.
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  Speaker 26: I mean, who the hell drinks milk with turkey?
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  Speaker 2: I got to go. I got to go. I really do.
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  Speaker 7: See you later.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 17: Replace those old drafty windows.