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ITB: Can Brandon Graham Help Eagles Right Away vs. Giants? · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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Speaker 1: Inside the Birds is back. What's going on? Everybody? It's
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Speaker 1: Jeff Moser and Adam Kaplan. Middle of the week Inside
0:19
Speaker 1: the Birds, Adam Eagles getting they can't rest. They came
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Speaker 1: up a nice win, a jail and hurts breakout against
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Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings. But they have a rematch the second time.
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Speaker 1: And how many days is the second time? I didn't
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Speaker 1: do the math. How many times are about to play
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Speaker 1: the Giants in the same Spain play?
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Speaker 2: Actually they played him on a Thursday night, correct, right.
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Speaker 1: So it will be the second time in seventeen days?
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Speaker 2: Right, well Thursday? Yeah, you get the what Yeah, bottom line,
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Speaker 2: it's ridiculous they should and they're dealing with Washington as
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Speaker 2: you know. It's week sixteen and eighteen, right.
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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't like it at all. I like
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Speaker 1: them spread out a little bit, just like I didn't
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Speaker 1: like playing Dallas on the season opener. I like it
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Speaker 1: when see if they were playing the Cowboys now, right,
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Speaker 1: I think that game would be even bigger because the
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Speaker 1: Cowboys are this explosive offen. They weren't this explosive Week one.
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Speaker 1: They were still figuring something, right, right, If you have
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Speaker 1: that build up, I just think the game has that
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Speaker 1: much more magnitude to it, So I don't really like
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Speaker 1: this whole Giants thing two times and like that.
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Speaker 2: Well, you know, some years and then the league trending
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Speaker 2: towards us in their scheduling is that they started to
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Speaker 2: make every game like weeks just before the seventeen game schedule,
1:33
Speaker 2: they would make the final four games all division, right,
1:36
Speaker 2: They're not doing that right now. So what they said
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Speaker 2: in the schedule call after they released it was they
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Speaker 2: don't care about like like like what you and I
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Speaker 2: are saying. They hear us. They just want great matchups.
1:50
Speaker 2: And obviously the league partners, the television partners have a
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Speaker 2: saying it, but they just want great matchups. It's like,
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Speaker 2: I agree with you put the Dallas in Week one.
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Speaker 2: It's obviously automatic generator of traffic. But it's just funny
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Speaker 2: how the leak says, no, no, no, we don't think
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Speaker 2: like that.
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Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, fine, right before we get started, and
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Speaker 1: really in this podcast, we'll talk about, you know, not
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Speaker 1: only the addition that Eagle have big edition number fifty
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Speaker 1: five and the impact that he might have, but also
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Speaker 1: some real big injuries again that might impact their game
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Speaker 1: against the Giants. Just like the jailing Carter one did
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Speaker 1: when he wasn't on the field for them in that
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Speaker 1: first game. There are some injuries. We'll talk about it
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Speaker 1: on both sides. I want to ask you this just
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Speaker 1: for because we're after this game, the Eagles go to
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Speaker 1: the buy and then after the by it will almost
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Speaker 1: be the halfway mark of the NFL the NFC right now, Adam,
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Speaker 1: between the Eagles, the Lions, right the Bucks, the Rams,
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Speaker 1: and the Seahawks have been very, very impressive. Of those five,
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Speaker 1: any one of those surprise you. Anyone that you think
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Speaker 1: right now is the team to be? What do you
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Speaker 1: think about that?
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Speaker 2: Well, the team to be to me is Detroit. I'm
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Speaker 2: gonna wind up getting that one wrong. I know that
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Speaker 2: the Packers are they're technically now. It doesn't mean anything.
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Speaker 2: They're the number one segu is. They only have one loss,
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Speaker 2: but they're there. They're not something with their defense. They're
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Speaker 2: always really talented, but they never become a team that
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Speaker 2: raises to the talent level. I don't know why. Jeff
3:15
Speaker 2: Affley's done a fine job, There's been something missing, whether
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Speaker 2: it's Joe Barry before him or half Lee. They're good,
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Speaker 2: but they're not now Barry was two conservatives, so they
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Speaker 2: fired him. But Aflee's like, he's changed this game. They
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Speaker 2: won from thirty fod to forty three. Obviously, Parsons had
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Speaker 2: a great game last week, but to tie the Cowboys,
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Speaker 2: to give up forty yeah, in that game, I remember
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Speaker 2: that was a money night him. I couldn't I have wanted.
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Speaker 2: I had to get up early next day. I was like,
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Speaker 2: I don't care, I'm watching this game. This is like
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Speaker 2: unbelievable football.
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Speaker 1: It was, yeah, kind of like.
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Speaker 2: I don't know if he saw it. I was watching
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Speaker 2: the red zone last Sunday, the Denver game. Giants game
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Speaker 2: was so bad for three quarters, a total snoozer, and
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Speaker 2: I have the red zone on and Scott Hansen starts.
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Speaker 2: He's like, hey, you know they're coming back.
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Speaker 1: A little bit.
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Speaker 2: The bron goes, oh my god, there's no way we
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Speaker 2: score thirty three in the fourth quarter.
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Speaker 1: Crazy, I know. Hey, no one has had a bigger
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Speaker 1: roller coaster so far over the last four weeks in
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Speaker 1: the Giants ever since Jackson darts are over. They beat
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Speaker 1: the Chargers at a time where the Chargers were starting
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Speaker 1: to get injured, but they were still playing good. Right.
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Speaker 1: They beat the Chargers. Then they go to New Orleans
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Speaker 1: and they blow a lead and lose to the Saint
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Speaker 1: become the first team this year to lose to the Saints.
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Speaker 1: You think, same old Giants, right, So then what do
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Speaker 1: they do? They come back? They beat the Eagles like
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Speaker 1: counts the sap out of them on Thursday night, and
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Speaker 1: then as you just mentioned, they go to Denver and
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Speaker 1: nobody goes to Denver and build up the lead like
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Speaker 1: they eighteen point lead in the fourth quarter, and then
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Speaker 1: they blow it, retake the lead, and then blow it
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Speaker 1: again because the kicker can't make I mean, I have
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Speaker 1: not seen a team on each side of the spectrum
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Speaker 1: week to week in a long time like these Giants.
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Speaker 2: So I don't know if it could be baseball, football
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Speaker 2: doesn't matter. But when you watch something the teams go
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Speaker 2: back and forth, if it could be like a home
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Speaker 2: run fest inning seventh through nine, you go, what the
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Speaker 2: hell just happened? Well, the Denver game was one of
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Speaker 2: those ridiculous things where Denver score By the way, Denver
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Speaker 2: didn't score point in the first three quarters. That's the
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Speaker 2: craziness of it.
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Speaker 1: At home, insane right at home?
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Speaker 2: And uh, then the the you saw the athleticism of
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Speaker 2: Dart and Knicks takeover scrambling, fighting ways, crazy throws. The
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Speaker 2: Johns are severely that they were severely shorthanded at receiver.
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Speaker 2: Your neighbors is out for the season. Slayton didn't play
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Speaker 2: in that game. Now that crazy played the Theo Johnson
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Speaker 2: deflection for a touchdown and he can't make it up.
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Speaker 2: There was actually another play like that.
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Speaker 1: The three in the game.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, three, Well there're two that I saw, right, were
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Speaker 2: there three? Okay?
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Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, And to be fair, bonus, one of Bonix's completions,
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Speaker 1: those three that he got that got them into the
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Speaker 1: game winning field goal territory was not meant for the receiver.
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Speaker 1: I think it was meant for something and Mims caught it,
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Speaker 1: so it was.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, mam, said Marvin Mims. Right. So as this plays
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Speaker 2: into this week's game, and now the Giants are two
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Speaker 2: and five, they had, by my the way that I
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Speaker 2: do schedule breakdowns, stay the hardest schedule by far coming
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Speaker 2: into the season.
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Speaker 1: Okay, yep.
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Speaker 2: It's based on the way though you don't you're not
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Speaker 2: playing last year's team, you're playing this year's teams. It's
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Speaker 2: my strength of schedule strictly based on what I see
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Speaker 2: from these clubs roster, coaching, and front office. Because let's
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Speaker 2: say a team suffers a bunch of injuries, do they
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Speaker 2: sign the right fore agents, street frights? Do they make
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Speaker 2: trades like Howie Will often does. That's that's important to
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Speaker 2: me when you evaluate teams. So yeah, that stuff matters.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Amazingly, they lost the team that you thought they
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Speaker 1: might beat, like, which is the Saints, and then they
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Speaker 1: beat the team nobody thought that they could beat, which
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Speaker 1: would be the Eagles. So and obviously beating the Chargers.
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Speaker 1: So they're they're playing with house money because I think
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Speaker 1: most people thought there would be one and six or
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Speaker 1: oho and seven after seven games. So they're an interesting team.
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Speaker 1: And I'll say this before we get Rick really into it.
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Speaker 1: There's some I do believe that the way Jackson Dart
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Speaker 1: has played and the way Gataboo has played, and the
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Speaker 1: way they're being the way Dable has coached Jackson Dart.
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Speaker 1: He's letting him throw the football. It's not simplifying everything.
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Speaker 1: He's let let him play like an NFL quarterback. It's
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Speaker 1: injected some confidence into that team. I mean, they were
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Speaker 1: going Kevon Thibodeau is going at it with Benito and
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Speaker 1: Twitter before the game. The Giants aren't this kind of
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Speaker 1: team that is going to allow, you know, just walk
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Speaker 1: in there and punch them and they're gonna stay down.
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Speaker 1: They're they're they play with more confidence now. I think
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Speaker 1: that they've been injected with some youth. And I'm not
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Speaker 1: saying they're good. I mean, I'm saying they're up and down,
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Speaker 1: but they play.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, they're competitive. Hell despite the injuries. No, they're
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Speaker 2: they have a talented defense. Brian Burns is having a
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Speaker 2: great season. Uh that Their their front is really good. Uh.
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Speaker 2: Shane Bowen is a Mike Rabel guy.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I kind of think he's he's not doing the
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Speaker 1: best job. From a back end standpoint. I feel like this.
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Speaker 2: Corner right, the corner position is the problem.
8:02
Speaker 1: Like they When Greg Cosell told us that their their
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Speaker 1: pass rush package did not include Dexter Lawrence, I thought
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Speaker 1: that that was a little fishy.
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Speaker 2: What coming into the Eagle game?
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Speaker 1: You mean yeah, that their four man rush, they were
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Speaker 1: taking Lawrence off and putting I think, uh, uh, well,
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Speaker 1: they were putting Darius Alexander. I know he's a second
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Speaker 1: round pick, He's.
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Speaker 2: Played really well, but that is odd.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's hard to figure out, like, well, kn't you
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Speaker 1: playing both? I mean, can't you get like half half?
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Speaker 1: And you know it was just straight me. It just
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Speaker 1: feels like they should be better because I've always said
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Speaker 1: if the Giants could get a lead, which they've had
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Speaker 1: a couple of times, they'd probably be pretty tough. They'd
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Speaker 1: get to hit the quarterback a little more. But they've
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Speaker 1: had a lot of leads and blown them. So I
8:42
Speaker 1: don't you know, we'll see how if that defense needs
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Speaker 1: just just come together a little bit more to.
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Speaker 2: Me is before we get started here, you would you
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Speaker 2: would think after he was got embarrassed two weeks ago.
8:53
Speaker 2: By the way, the jihnts were whooping it up after
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Speaker 2: the game. Man, they were like they I don't know
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Speaker 2: if the Eagles are aware of it, but they were celebrating
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Speaker 2: and they were going crazy on the sun because it
9:02
Speaker 2: was the game was over with seven minutes left.
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Speaker 1: It was.
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Speaker 2: Remember now Dickerson didn't play and Carter didn't play. That's
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Speaker 2: pretty significant. Well, barring's something unforeseen that we don't know about,
9:12
Speaker 2: and we'll get any injuries in a minute. Here they're playing,
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Speaker 2: So it's gonna be fascinating to see in two weeks
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Speaker 2: later what this game is going to look like?
9:22
Speaker 1: Agree all right, if you haven't checked it out yet,
9:24
Speaker 1: I highly recommend, I more than highly recommend you listen
9:29
Speaker 1: to our Tuesday night show with WBCB. Adam and Andrew
9:33
Speaker 1: Dejeco hosted it with Eagles running back Will Shipley, which
9:38
Speaker 1: was just an awesome guest to have, and Will is
9:42
Speaker 1: really really good. I mean, he gave great insight. It
9:45
Speaker 1: was great dialogue with you and Andrew. And clearly Andrew
9:48
Speaker 1: has gotten a no will from doing the Rookie Diary
9:50
Speaker 1: and so they've got a rapport there, and I just
9:53
Speaker 1: thought it was very insightful. You learn a lot when
9:56
Speaker 1: you talk through not only you know, we've had some
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Speaker 1: former Eagles who are really good breaking down the game
10:01
Speaker 1: on our show with us, but they have a current Eagle.
10:03
Speaker 1: Was fantastic. You navigated it really well, ask great questions,
10:07
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10:13
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10:17
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10:20
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10:22
Speaker 1: and it is quite the show, and that one was
10:24
Speaker 1: an excellent one.
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Speaker 2: So it also I would had if you want. Will
10:29
Speaker 2: was incredible with the autograph hounds. It was it was
10:33
Speaker 2: something else. I mean, there were two dozen people. I
10:36
Speaker 2: don't know how the hell they know. I know, I
10:37
Speaker 2: know we put up a tweet out or on passing site.
10:42
Speaker 2: Who you know they're a partner of WBCB and obviously
10:46
Speaker 2: we know this people. So anyway they put a tweet out,
10:48
Speaker 2: I retweeted it. You know, I don't know. So all
10:51
Speaker 2: of a sudden, I look up, I'm like, what is that?
10:53
Speaker 2: What the hell they were like? They were like they
10:56
Speaker 2: knew people know and you she would not believe the
10:59
Speaker 2: pictures that they found. I'm saying to Will, like, dude,
11:01
Speaker 2: look at this, look at this. How do they get
11:02
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl pet shars? It wasn't like one that's
11:06
Speaker 2: a stock photo. It's like a very unique one. And
11:09
Speaker 2: it was great. So what we did is Andrew and
11:11
Speaker 2: I asked him about situational stuff, special teams, and we
11:13
Speaker 2: went over a lot of players and coaches.
11:16
Speaker 1: M h. Wait to hear what he.
11:17
Speaker 2: Says about Hurts and Tanner McKee. We brought him up.
11:19
Speaker 2: It's great to give insight about what do you see
11:22
Speaker 2: some practice Smitty AJ it's just and the special teams
11:27
Speaker 2: coaches and Vic Fangio. It's really funny what he said
11:30
Speaker 2: about Vic. Yeah, no, it's great, it's great. He was
11:35
Speaker 2: he he loves it. Yeah, it's it's great. And hopefully
11:39
Speaker 2: we'll have them on again. I'm sure we will probably
11:40
Speaker 2: later this season.
11:41
Speaker 1: Yep. And that is already up on again our podcast platform,
11:44
Speaker 1: so check it out. And of course later today we'll
11:46
Speaker 1: have our shortened version of Ask Greg Cosel. We do
11:49
Speaker 1: it every week on Patreon. We had a really good,
11:52
Speaker 1: lively spirited one about about thirteen or fourteen people in
11:56
Speaker 1: the chat room asking Greg questions and honestly, at one
11:59
Speaker 1: point it's just evolved into evolved into really good conversation.
12:04
Speaker 1: You know, there are some questions that nobody can answer,
12:06
Speaker 1: like why why does the tea We all want, like
12:08
Speaker 1: like to know why the passing offense is great one
12:10
Speaker 1: day or not. I mean, there's only so much you
12:12
Speaker 1: can say from an ex's and O standpoint, But it
12:14
Speaker 1: became a really good dialogue and discussion about the multiple
12:17
Speaker 1: parts of the team.
12:18
Speaker 2: One thing I want to adduse I watched it on
12:20
Speaker 2: Tuesday or whatever Wednesday Wednesday morning for the co Celle
12:25
Speaker 2: haters or the people who say Greg's not complimentary of Hurts.
12:28
Speaker 2: I was blown away how complimentary he was, Like almost
12:31
Speaker 2: have been, Greg, why don't you be a little bit
12:32
Speaker 2: stronger with your compliments on the regular platform? He was like,
12:38
Speaker 2: I was like, am I hearing this? Like he's like
12:39
Speaker 2: going it was like he praised him. He said he
12:43
Speaker 2: played well in the game, but just the way that
12:47
Speaker 2: he said it. Talking about high level quarterback play, Yeah,
12:51
Speaker 2: because because Hurts does a lot of stuff off schedule,
12:53
Speaker 2: like a lot we see Josh Allen do it and
12:55
Speaker 2: other quarterbacks. Yep, Jalen is not the accomplished pressure that
12:58
Speaker 2: some of these other guys are. But some of those
13:01
Speaker 2: throws from Hurts were similar to the Super Bowl, not
13:04
Speaker 2: this one. Hurts his first super Bowl where he was unbelievable.
13:07
Speaker 2: I would argue the first Super Bowl was one of
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Speaker 2: the best performances NFL history from a quarterback. It was
13:12
Speaker 2: incredible lost unfortunately, but if he and I'm not an
13:16
Speaker 2: Eagles fan, but they got cheated by the grass, that's
13:18
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say.
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Speaker 1: Anyway, as good as Tom Brady throwing for five hundred
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Speaker 1: yards and a loss to the loss.
13:24
Speaker 2: You know it's funny. I remember another coach saying to
13:26
Speaker 2: me from another team who obviously watched the game, and goes,
13:29
Speaker 2: Schwartz got off the hook for that game because just lost.
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13:37
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Speaker 1: are you kidding?
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Speaker 2: road at Dallas and then for the Commandos in week
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Speaker 2: eighteen at this point with as banged up as the
17:12
Speaker 2: Commandos are, and we'll see if that game is actually
17:14
Speaker 2: actually means anything, but they're going to wear them at
17:16
Speaker 2: home in week eighteen ten season.
17:19
Speaker 1: One against each NFC East opponent has how they're doing it.
17:22
Speaker 2: Okay, that's pretty cool. Yeah. Now the only thing is
17:25
Speaker 2: from someone who had an Eagles jersey in the nineties.
17:28
Speaker 2: Those jerseys were darker and darker kelly green if you will,
17:32
Speaker 2: just the shade of it. These are brighter. I love
17:35
Speaker 2: bright colors. I don't know about you, but I uh
17:37
Speaker 2: for tennis, I where it's really sometimes fluorescent shoes. I
17:41
Speaker 2: don't care, man, I like I just like the brighter color.
17:45
Speaker 2: So I love them, man, I think the helmet's super cool. Fact.
17:50
Speaker 2: One of these days I might have to replace this
17:53
Speaker 2: real helmet with the Kelly Green one some half to
17:55
Speaker 2: get one nice.
17:57
Speaker 1: All right, speaking of BG and Kelly Green, so I thought,
18:00
Speaker 1: thought this is interesting. The Eagles first injury report of
18:03
Speaker 1: the week they put out on a Kelly Green poster
18:06
Speaker 1: on social media. H I didn't. I don't know if
18:08
Speaker 1: they had to do this. Maybe you have more insight
18:10
Speaker 1: into it, but they actually put Brandon Graham on it.
18:13
Speaker 1: Although they said he's not injury. They just wanted to
18:15
Speaker 1: let everybody know that he was a full participant in practice.
18:21
Speaker 2: The rule is when you're in as he's not actually
18:23
Speaker 2: on the roster, but when you're in a reserve list
18:25
Speaker 2: and you practice, you must be listed on the injury board,
18:27
Speaker 2: so it forces teams. I mentioned this like three years
18:28
Speaker 2: ago when the league started doing it, which was great.
18:31
Speaker 2: By the way, they had a list of the injuries.
18:32
Speaker 2: Sometimes injuries don't actually get reported, like a gull and
18:35
Speaker 2: going going on r and let's say undisclosed, it never
18:38
Speaker 2: gets reported, right, but you know, yeah, so yeah, maybe
18:43
Speaker 2: it's they had to put him on there just because
18:44
Speaker 2: he's he's wait practiced.
18:47
Speaker 1: But practice but I mean, he's got no injury.
18:49
Speaker 2: But yeah, he's not. But it's he's not on the roster.
18:54
Speaker 2: The Eagles have a roster exception for two weeks from now.
18:57
Speaker 2: It's weird, like they they're they're they're counting the bye
19:00
Speaker 2: week as a week. They're given two week exempter because
19:02
Speaker 2: he hasn't been here for nine months. So it's wild.
19:05
Speaker 2: And by the way, Fangio's quote, he's so this guy.
19:10
Speaker 2: I love the subtle shots he takes to the NFL
19:12
Speaker 2: or reporters like and and quite frankly, hey, I'll admit it,
19:16
Speaker 2: like when when Vic says, what did he say to
19:19
Speaker 2: the what did he say about to the police? What
19:24
Speaker 2: he had a great line something about to the snapcount
19:27
Speaker 2: police or something like that. He said, oh yeah, yeah,
19:30
Speaker 2: it was just and he takes the ramp up police.
19:34
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, he hates that. He hates the
19:36
Speaker 2: ramp up period. Look, we learned our lesson with he
19:39
Speaker 2: planned the uh the guy who retired Darius Smith. Yeah, yeah,
19:44
Speaker 2: he played the first week he came back.
19:46
Speaker 1: Well, I think that's interesting, Adam. I'm not convinced that
19:49
Speaker 1: that if Brandon Graham has a good full week of
19:51
Speaker 1: practice that he won't at least play a few steps
19:53
Speaker 1: because as long as the triceps is fine and and
19:57
Speaker 1: and he's healthy in condition like you said, was Zadarius Smith.
20:00
Speaker 1: He had a good week of practice, so he had
20:02
Speaker 1: no OTAs, he had no training camp. He was literally
20:04
Speaker 1: off the street. He showed he could play, and he played,
20:07
Speaker 1: so it wouldn't surprise.
20:08
Speaker 2: Me very limited. Rote Now from what we understand, he's
20:11
Speaker 2: in really good physical shape. Now that does not mean
20:13
Speaker 2: in game shape or conditioned, so Fanjio will find out.
20:17
Speaker 2: But they guys, and you know this, he goes have
20:20
Speaker 2: three healthy edges on the roster right now. They have
20:23
Speaker 2: there and it is it is a centimeter fin their
20:26
Speaker 2: their edge group to the point where and watch the
20:30
Speaker 2: if you didn't watch it, Greg and Vic Fangio kind
20:33
Speaker 2: of confirmed this. Basically when Camill line up on the edge,
20:37
Speaker 2: he was an ad indfender against the run. He really
20:39
Speaker 2: was not. He played almost exclusively on the edge as
20:42
Speaker 2: a bass down player, a little bit nickel, but he
20:44
Speaker 2: really didn't rush the passer right they got to use
20:47
Speaker 2: I understand Vic doesn't want him doing that or is
20:50
Speaker 2: reluctant to do it. I don't care like VI's been
20:53
Speaker 2: great about he's got to do whatever he's got to do.
20:55
Speaker 2: He's done that this season. He's done it really since
20:56
Speaker 2: he's been here. But Patrick Johnston right now, the first
21:00
Speaker 2: guy at the patch. I know he's been a nice story,
21:02
Speaker 2: but come on, right where else.
21:04
Speaker 1: You gonna go here? And you're light, Remember you're light
21:07
Speaker 1: at the edges. With who you have?
21:09
Speaker 2: They only have.
21:10
Speaker 1: Three and I don't mean I mean light like physically too.
21:13
Speaker 2: So like you mentioned that the other Yeah, you mentioned
21:15
Speaker 2: that with Greg and then the only guy they have
21:18
Speaker 2: on the on the practice squad is Powell Ryland, right,
21:20
Speaker 2: that's it. He's ever playing an NFL game before.
21:23
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you're right. I think listen if Brandon Graham,
21:25
Speaker 1: if VIC thinks he can play fifteen snaps, Yeah, they
21:30
Speaker 1: need it, man.
21:30
Speaker 2: I mean now, I know they've played Carter in a
21:32
Speaker 2: wide nine alignment. They've done that under Vic. You can
21:36
Speaker 2: do that. O. Joe Moo's done it a little bit,
21:38
Speaker 2: I believe last year. It's not ideal. Uh, And he's
21:44
Speaker 2: got It's funny because he's got the body to play
21:45
Speaker 2: outside anyway to line up in nine technique. But bottom
21:49
Speaker 2: line is they've got some challenges here. I mean this
21:52
Speaker 2: is they got some depth issues. We'll get to the interurport.
21:55
Speaker 2: There are a couple the dread and pop ups happen.
21:56
Speaker 2: We'll get to them in a couple of minutes here.
21:58
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely transactions. So but again, Brandy Graham, technically as
22:04
Speaker 1: we're talking, is not a on the fifty three man roster.
22:07
Speaker 1: If he's gonna play, they would do they have? I
22:09
Speaker 1: think they have an open spot, though I have to
22:11
Speaker 1: go back and look. I thought they had an open spot.
22:13
Speaker 1: Could be wrong about that, but either way, he'd have
22:15
Speaker 1: to be put on the on the fifty three man
22:17
Speaker 1: to be able to play.
22:18
Speaker 2: H J.
22:19
Speaker 1: Coryan Bennett, who has been out since the Rams game.
22:22
Speaker 1: What was that week three?
22:23
Speaker 2: Week three? Yes?
22:24
Speaker 1: Yeah, week three out with the pectoral injury, is in
22:28
Speaker 1: the twenty one day practice window, and I think this
22:31
Speaker 1: is another guy Vick's like looking at, like is he
22:34
Speaker 1: conditioned enough? Is he good? I don't know, Adam. You know,
22:39
Speaker 1: he never really had a chance to play in mixed defense,
22:41
Speaker 1: which is not easy to learn for a corner, and
22:44
Speaker 1: then he got hurt. He may not have a choice
22:46
Speaker 1: if he's active, because really, you could be one injury
22:50
Speaker 1: away from getting in the game. But again I don't
22:53
Speaker 1: there might be some other people hire them, maybe Parry
22:56
Speaker 1: Nickerson or something, because Vic just has to see what
22:59
Speaker 1: he's got in practice this week.
23:01
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's an outside corner, he's not an inside corner.
23:04
Speaker 2: So yeah, they need him. I mean, they they're another position.
23:09
Speaker 2: You know, you can't predict injuries, and he's just had
23:11
Speaker 2: so many problems in his career. He had both shoulders,
23:14
Speaker 2: he had both shoulders done, you know, in the last
23:17
Speaker 2: two seasons terms of surgery. But he said he was
23:20
Speaker 2: good to go. He told before the trade because he
23:22
Speaker 2: didn't know he's getting traded. Before the trade for the
23:24
Speaker 2: Raiders to the Eagles, he told the reporters that and
23:26
Speaker 2: with who cover the Raiders that he said he was good,
23:28
Speaker 2: he's cleaning's feeling great. And then he gets hurt with
23:30
Speaker 2: his pectoral strain. So it's it's unfortunate, but they need him.
23:35
Speaker 2: This is something and then we'll we'll get closer to
23:37
Speaker 2: the trade deadline. We'll talk more about it next week.
23:39
Speaker 2: But watch Edge and watch corner Man. Nothing that's happened
23:41
Speaker 2: is going to change it that they that do you
23:44
Speaker 2: want to win the Super Bowl? The Eagles can absolutely
23:46
Speaker 2: make another run to get there.
23:48
Speaker 1: They got to have better.
23:48
Speaker 2: Players at both positions.
23:49
Speaker 1: This is the way it is, all right, a tight
23:52
Speaker 1: end the Eagles who had signed Jaheem Beil on the
23:54
Speaker 1: practice squad. I think by the time we did when
23:56
Speaker 1: we did our last podcast we talk about it, well,
23:58
Speaker 1: he's already gone. As they continue to do that. E J.
24:02
Speaker 1: Jenkins reverts back to the practice squad after the game
24:04
Speaker 1: and Adam, you predicted it. I don't know if this
24:07
Speaker 1: was the guy that you predicted. You said, there's no
24:10
Speaker 1: way the Eagles get through this week without signing some
24:13
Speaker 1: kind of veteran interior offensive lineman. And Kaplin Stradamis is there,
24:18
Speaker 1: and the Eagles bring back Sua Opeta to the practice squad.
24:23
Speaker 1: You know, a lot out there? What's that? We know?
24:27
Speaker 1: There's not a lot out there, I know.
24:29
Speaker 2: But the thing is they need a guard center, not
24:31
Speaker 2: just guard as Sue as we reported four or five
24:33
Speaker 2: whenever the heck, he was drafted like he could only
24:35
Speaker 2: play one side of the line, and it took him
24:38
Speaker 2: a while to get used to. Matt Prior could learn
24:41
Speaker 2: something about this over time. A patta could play both
24:44
Speaker 2: guard spots, right, So that's important, but they need They've
24:49
Speaker 2: not shown the willingness to put Ken Drew Kendall on
24:51
Speaker 2: the way. He hasn't played yet, he hasn't been active. Yeah,
24:54
Speaker 2: they need a backup center in the worst way.
24:57
Speaker 1: Yep.
24:58
Speaker 2: They could say whatever they want about Brett Brett toafe.
25:03
Speaker 2: I know. I asked Will Shipley about him. He talked
25:07
Speaker 2: about him, and I know, I get he's smart. He's
25:10
Speaker 2: been there on off the Rogers since nineteen and they
25:15
Speaker 2: got through the game. They won. But you just worry
25:18
Speaker 2: about this. You need insurance, man, and anyone you're signing
25:21
Speaker 2: off the street is cost effective. It's not cost you
25:24
Speaker 2: hardly anything. It doesn't. It's not a cap issue. Yes,
25:26
Speaker 2: they got to do it, man, you know, but I
25:28
Speaker 2: haven't done it.
25:29
Speaker 1: So I get. I got the sense reading the tea leaves,
25:32
Speaker 1: and we'll look into this if we can. It didn't
25:36
Speaker 1: sound like they were very committal. Both definitely playing center
25:40
Speaker 1: if Jurgens is out against the Giants, but we'll talk
25:44
Speaker 1: about that in a second. That those are the transactions.
25:47
Speaker 1: Opeta's on the practice squad. It does give them someone
25:49
Speaker 1: that just doubt one is familiar with. He can play
25:52
Speaker 1: both sides, but he's also available for a reason too.
25:55
Speaker 1: It's not like he was, you know, poached from a team.
25:57
Speaker 1: He was signed off to the practice squad of the street.
26:01
Speaker 1: I don't even know what kind of shape he's in,
26:02
Speaker 1: but he's he's there on the.
26:04
Speaker 2: Practice gonna find off very quickly because they need their depth.
26:07
Speaker 2: Again on the offensive line is another area where they're
26:10
Speaker 2: really fed.
26:11
Speaker 1: All right, all right, So now we get into the
26:14
Speaker 1: injuries and the injury report and they're, like you said,
26:17
Speaker 1: there's some pop ups we got to talk about. There
26:19
Speaker 1: were some people out of practice. H Jurgons was out
26:22
Speaker 1: of practice Wednesday with the knee. It doesn't doesn't seem
26:26
Speaker 1: good at him. And again I I sensed that it's
26:30
Speaker 1: not the total. I sense that maybe if they go
26:33
Speaker 1: about it without Jurgons, that Dickerson plays center and Toth
26:38
Speaker 1: plays left guard because that's more comfortable for Toath he
26:41
Speaker 1: doesn't have to snap. But as you mentioned, Dickerson also
26:45
Speaker 1: limited in practice on Monday, and now it's ankle slash back, right,
26:50
Speaker 1: So you know that's not great.
26:53
Speaker 2: Now they've got just wh when I look at their
26:58
Speaker 2: injury report, uh, as I am right now, And.
27:02
Speaker 1: This was a real practice by the way, everyone this
27:04
Speaker 1: is not Yeah.
27:04
Speaker 2: It wasn't a walk through. Yeah. Yeah, let me just
27:08
Speaker 2: go through this real quickly here.
27:09
Speaker 1: Sure you want to start with AJ Brown? I mean
27:11
Speaker 1: he's out, he missed.
27:12
Speaker 2: Yeah, he isn't. This is one we didn't know about.
27:16
Speaker 2: That's your dread and pop back. I'd be very surprised
27:19
Speaker 2: if he doesn't play. I know it's a hamstring andry.
27:21
Speaker 2: The only reason why I say that is because he's tweeting.
27:26
Speaker 2: He's xing if you want to call whatever, you want to,
27:27
Speaker 2: go on to the next platform.
27:29
Speaker 1: He was also standing on the sideline next to Big Doms.
27:33
Speaker 1: You're right. I think we said this at the end
27:35
Speaker 1: of training camp when people were worried about all the
27:37
Speaker 1: time he was missing, and you and I said, yeah,
27:40
Speaker 1: we're watching him throwing passes to receivers like he's planting
27:44
Speaker 1: the leg. You start, he's fine. I can't say with
27:47
Speaker 1: one hundred percent certainty he's fine this time, but it
27:50
Speaker 1: is a good sign that he's standing on the on
27:52
Speaker 1: the sideline and not inside.
27:54
Speaker 2: Yeah. So a J Brown with a hamstring, We'll keep
27:58
Speaker 2: an eye on it.
27:59
Speaker 1: Uh.
27:59
Speaker 2: Now, if he doesn't practice today, which is Thursday and
28:03
Speaker 2: is a limited Friday, I would be concerned. But well
28:05
Speaker 2: that's just one. Just know how these injury reports go.
28:08
Speaker 2: The key day is always Friday because for a Sunday game,
28:11
Speaker 2: that's that's when you know you have a pretty good
28:12
Speaker 2: idea if the guy's going to play or not. Calcaterra
28:15
Speaker 2: got some light working and by the way, really cool
28:17
Speaker 2: thing Shipley does describe. Andrew asked him about the bleaque injury. Boy,
28:22
Speaker 2: did he give a great detail on new a bleak injury.
28:24
Speaker 2: I won't give it away, but it was really cool. Yes,
28:28
Speaker 2: dreaded pop up got heard calf limited on Wednesday, a
28:32
Speaker 2: new one he's had neat he had knee injury where
28:34
Speaker 2: he missed the game. We'll keep an eye on that.
28:37
Speaker 2: As an older player, you're you're always concerned about that. Uh,
28:40
Speaker 2: calf injury you mentioned. Jurgens did not work. Uh that's
28:44
Speaker 2: pretty much. Oh, oh, I forget a Joemo though. He
28:47
Speaker 2: was We're gonna go. We're gonna finish off offense. Dickerson
28:50
Speaker 2: Now he's got the left ankle still on there. Now
28:52
Speaker 2: he's got a back issue. He's had back problems before.
28:54
Speaker 2: You got to watch that. He did get some work in.
28:57
Speaker 2: We're gonna keep an eye on that going to defense.
28:58
Speaker 2: As you mentioned Joemo now is a shoulder issue. He
29:01
Speaker 2: did get some work in a Wednesday. That's shoulder, you know,
29:05
Speaker 2: it's contact issue. Got to be able to see that.
29:07
Speaker 2: Charter got hurt on special teams with the ankle. Didn't
29:09
Speaker 2: work on Wednesday. Other than that, in the concussion protocol,
29:17
Speaker 2: he couldn't work.
29:19
Speaker 1: Everybody. I got to remind everybody that if he does
29:22
Speaker 1: appear on the on as a practice, he has to
29:25
Speaker 1: practice to be able to play. So he's got to
29:27
Speaker 1: appear in some former fashion as a limited or or
29:31
Speaker 1: he has to do something on the practice field as
29:33
Speaker 1: part of the protocol. So uh, Thursday, Friday.
29:37
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, Jelari won't play. According to Vic, he broke
29:40
Speaker 2: the news. He's I don't think so. So yeah, they've
29:44
Speaker 2: got uh, they've got new ones. Were the ones aren't watch?
29:48
Speaker 2: Are Brown?
29:50
Speaker 1: Jurgen's for sure Brown?
29:52
Speaker 2: Yeah, Bennett because they need him. If he can play,
29:55
Speaker 2: he plays, yep.
29:57
Speaker 1: But how much if if VIC thinks that this guy
30:00
Speaker 1: is in good shape, yeah and he can play, I
30:03
Speaker 1: gotta think it's more special teams and I can't. I
30:06
Speaker 1: can't imagine he starts.
30:07
Speaker 2: Over any just just to sub in honestly, to get
30:11
Speaker 2: Ringo off the field, I mean to get Bennett in there.
30:13
Speaker 2: Bet Bennett's a better football player. Yeah. By the way,
30:17
Speaker 2: we got to watch Goddard with a calf.
30:19
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely.
30:21
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Ojomo the fact that he got to
30:24
Speaker 2: work in it is is a good thing. But yeah,
30:26
Speaker 2: they have they have more and and we'll get to
30:29
Speaker 2: the Giants in a minute. But yeah, they look again
30:31
Speaker 2: dreaded pop ups on Wednesday. It's never a good thing.
30:35
Speaker 2: But I don't get worried for fantasy, especially until Friday.
30:38
Speaker 2: That's when I'm like a hawk on these things because
30:40
Speaker 2: i gotta know if my players are gonna be the lineup.
30:42
Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, I've dealt with injuries, you know,
30:44
Speaker 2: on injury report for over twenty five years, so I
30:46
Speaker 2: kind of have a pretty good feel for it. You
30:48
Speaker 2: get tricks sometimes.
30:50
Speaker 1: And also I was gonna say there's some good news
30:53
Speaker 1: though on this injury report by who's not on.
30:55
Speaker 2: It, Oh, Jalen Carter. Not good point, Jalen Carter with
30:58
Speaker 2: the heel and during David with the shoulder. Yeah, the
31:00
Speaker 2: big one is Carter with the heel. That is a
31:02
Speaker 2: big thing for me. Not to have that thing. That's good.
31:05
Speaker 2: That's a positive, good point, all right.
31:07
Speaker 1: So now we'll get into the Giants' injuries. They had
31:11
Speaker 1: a scare a little bit in that game. Not only
31:13
Speaker 1: did they blow it, but I read that Burns had
31:17
Speaker 1: left the game in a boot. So that was a
31:19
Speaker 1: little uh nerve racking for them. I don't know if
31:22
Speaker 1: he had.
31:22
Speaker 2: As he's playing. Yeah, he actually said yeah, he was
31:25
Speaker 2: interviewed Wednesday, said he's good to go. It's actually a hip.
31:27
Speaker 2: There is a hip the two that they're very concerned about,
31:32
Speaker 2: Pulson and Diebo when they're starting corners with a knee injury.
31:35
Speaker 2: Javon Holland with a neck didn't work and that was
31:37
Speaker 2: that's concerning John Michael Schmidz, their center didn't play last week.
31:41
Speaker 2: Aaron Schlottman remember him from Denver and the Vikings. He's
31:45
Speaker 2: a journeyman. He started for him last week. Neighbors is
31:47
Speaker 2: out for the season. Acl Mike McFadden, who's a really
31:50
Speaker 2: underrated inside backer. He's out until late in the season
31:54
Speaker 2: with a foot injury. They're actually gonna have a kicker
31:55
Speaker 2: this week.
31:56
Speaker 1: How about that?
31:58
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what it is you met. You
32:00
Speaker 2: remind me of all the problems Graham Cano has had
32:02
Speaker 2: over his career with injury. He's playing this week. He's
32:05
Speaker 2: dosigny for return, but he's going to kick there. They're
32:07
Speaker 2: pretty certain of it. They kicked the kid, they kicked
32:10
Speaker 2: him out, the kid who had a terrible game on Sunday.
32:14
Speaker 2: So it'll be uh, Graham Gono's back. Darius Slayton, by
32:17
Speaker 2: the way, said he expects to play, and you know
32:19
Speaker 2: at times he's been the Eagles killer. They need him.
32:21
Speaker 2: They're really late receiver. Yep, those are the injuries, but yeah,
32:25
Speaker 2: both teams have some concerns that could impact this matchup.
32:29
Speaker 2: I got a feel and I didn't ask will this.
32:32
Speaker 2: We didn't get to it with him. I got to
32:34
Speaker 2: feel like they got to be fired up for this game.
32:36
Speaker 2: It's at home Kelly Green's I know it's a minor thing,
32:40
Speaker 2: but getting embarrassed. That's another great thing about Sirian is
32:44
Speaker 2: how they you rarely see the Eagles get beat badly
32:47
Speaker 2: since he's been the head coach, when everyone's playing, when
32:50
Speaker 2: they've had their players. You know what happened in Tampa
32:52
Speaker 2: last year and the Week four is the key players
32:54
Speaker 2: were out when they have their now again, yes, Dickerson
32:57
Speaker 2: was out and Carter's out, But just to get embarrassed
33:01
Speaker 2: like that, to get handled it. It's not like a
33:04
Speaker 2: Siriani coach team. I would expect them to come out.
33:07
Speaker 2: You could see what way I'm leaning when we pick
33:09
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33:11
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Speaker 1: something you'd also never believe. The Eagles as a collective
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Speaker 1: team have eleven sacks through seven games. Nine has nine sacks.
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Speaker 1: Oh my god, nine Ryan has too fewer than the
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Speaker 1: entire Eagles pass rush. That is that is not something
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Speaker 2: Oh no, I thought you're gonna tell me. I Actually
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Speaker 2: I may or may not. Who's leading them in sacks
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Speaker 2: is like Patrick Johnson or something really weird like that.
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Speaker 1: It is I think it's still Zarius Smith. Actually, no,
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Speaker 1: Laura Jomo with three and Bond has two. Okay, okay,
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Speaker 1: Jordan Davis has two, Zaria Smith one and a half.
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Speaker 1: So Zariah Smith is still their leading edge rusher for
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Speaker 1: sacks with one and a half. Isn't that crazy?
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Speaker 2: It's look that it's again BG coming backs great? Who
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Speaker 2: knows what it's gonna look like? I like what he
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Speaker 2: said in his little video, no expectations because you have
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Speaker 2: to say that he's thirty seven years old. Who the
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Speaker 2: hell he doesn't know?
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Speaker 1: All right, let me leave you with one other great stat.
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Speaker 1: He goes at five interceptions. Okay, not one single one
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Speaker 1: of them has come from a cornerback.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I knew you're it's a bit of weird. Look,
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Speaker 2: here's the thing about the weirdness of the season, right,
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Speaker 2: they're five and two somehow, that's the crazy thing. They
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Speaker 2: got a lot of improvement to go. Everybody knows that
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Speaker 2: who watch as the team closely, everyone watching this game
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Speaker 2: that this show obviously knows that they're gonna get some
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Speaker 2: reinforcements back eventually see about Bennett and other guys. But
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Speaker 2: the coaches know what. No one's proud of that they
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Speaker 2: haven't played a complete game yet at all. They just
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Speaker 2: have not. But you know, we'll see if they can
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Speaker 2: build off of it. But it's a long season.
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Speaker 1: This is the year.
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Speaker 2: It's completely This is the most wide open year I've
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Speaker 2: seen in over a decade. There are no dominant football teams.
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Speaker 2: No one's even close to dominant like Negles were last
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Speaker 2: te time.
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Speaker 1: No, that's why I started opening the show to ask
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Speaker 1: you about all these teams. And I didn't even forgotten.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, I.
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Speaker 2: Don't believe that Packers.
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Speaker 1: What's that?
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Speaker 2: That's insane? Yeah, but I wish I never picked the
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Speaker 2: Packers to to UH to win their division Detroit. I
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Speaker 2: they were my team four years ago when no one
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Speaker 2: liked them. And then I I got worried about John
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Speaker 2: Morton the OC because he didn't do well with the Jets. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: and I forgot he's with Ben Jonson three years I
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Speaker 2: should have. And the fact that they're winning with their
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Speaker 2: whole secondaries out last week.
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Speaker 1: Liones, Yeah, well, they've learned to play without a lot
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Speaker 1: of it. They've learned to play with injuries a lot
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Speaker 1: over the last two years. Right, Yeah, they're getting a
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Speaker 1: little healthier. McNeil's back, But either way, this game against
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