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• 0:01
  Speaker 1: I think Travis, first of all, I thought he did
• 0:03
  Speaker 1: a really good job overall.
• 0:04
  Speaker 2: And I thought that as the game went, you know,
• 0:08
  Speaker 2: it just got better and better.
• 0:10
  Speaker 1: You know, like for most guys, too. You know what
• 0:11
  Speaker 1: I mean?
• 0:11
  Speaker 2: When you're in there and you're just getting an accumulation
• 0:14
  Speaker 2: of reps, the game seems to always slow down for you.
• 0:18
  Speaker 2: And I thought he really took advantage of that as
• 0:19
  Speaker 2: the game went on. So I think he can definitely grow.
• 0:21
  Speaker 2: I think confidence comes always from having success. And, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I'm excited for him, man. I thought he did a
• 0:27
  Speaker 2: good job the other day.
• 0:30
  Speaker 3: In the communication realm just because he hasn't.
• 0:35
  Speaker 1: Necessarily been on the field for very long? Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: think he's getting better that way.
• 0:38
  Speaker 2: I think the older guys, they have a great culture
• 0:41
  Speaker 2: in that room of demanding that of one another. I
• 0:45
  Speaker 2: think even the safeties do a very good job of
• 0:48
  Speaker 2: that and making sure that they're incorporating the corners, the
• 0:52
  Speaker 2: nickels into that communication every day. And I think that
• 0:55
  Speaker 2: has improved with Travis and I think it will continue
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  Speaker 2: to grow. Pretty much everything about him. He is a
• 1:05
  Speaker 2: tremendous athlete. One, he's got great hands, obviously. I think
• 1:10
  Speaker 2: he's super elusive on the line of scrimmage. And I
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  Speaker 2: think he does a very good job in the break area.
• 1:18
  Speaker 2: And not to, you know, maybe not give, like, here's
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  Speaker 2: what I think he really does.
• 1:24
  Speaker 1: At an elite level, maybe even better than anybody.
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  Speaker 2: When he catches the ball, his burst after the catch,
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  Speaker 2: is so noticeable, you know, when you turn on the tape,
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  Speaker 2: he's a hard guy to tackle. He's just a great
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  Speaker 2: ball carrier after the catch. So really every part of
• 1:39
  Speaker 2: his game to me is, is something that you look
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  Speaker 2: at like, man, he really is. He's great at that.
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  Speaker 2: You know, you look at that, he's great at that,
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  Speaker 2: you know? So he's, he really is. He's just a
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  Speaker 2: great football player.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I think, I think a ton.
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  Speaker 2: I think you always have to account for any time,
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  Speaker 2: you've got a guy that can take it the distance
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  Speaker 2: when he makes a catch.
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  Speaker 1: You've always got to account for him.
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  Speaker 2: You've always got to have a good plan for when
• 2:03
  Speaker 2: you're playing against guys like that.
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  Speaker 4: What makes Travis so good? There's some stats out there.
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  Speaker 4: He's been really impressive in the NCAA Cup. What makes
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  Speaker 4: him just so good at that aspect of quarterbacking?
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  Speaker 2: I think Travis has tremendous flexibility and balance, and that's
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  Speaker 2: what enables him to change direction so well.
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  Speaker 1: I was just talking about the top of the route.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's one of the things he does a
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  Speaker 2: very good job of and he's continuing to get better at.
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  Speaker 2: As the eye discipline, I think that's one of the
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  Speaker 2: things in the last year for him that he's continuing
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  Speaker 2: to get better at and that's showing up and it's
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  Speaker 2: paying off for him. I think that's what makes him
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  Speaker 2: really tough to deal with at that position.
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  Speaker 5: The one route.
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  Speaker 4: Where Travis was kind of above it and then Jordan
• 2:49
  Speaker 4: was beneath it and Drake was able to What was supposed.
• 2:52
  Speaker 1: To happen there? Jordan. Which point in the game? I
• 2:56
  Speaker 1: don't exactly remember.
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  Speaker 3: I probably should have looked at the player.
• 3:02
  Speaker 1: That's okay. But Drake was able to get the ball
• 3:05
  Speaker 1: kind of in between Travis and Jordan. And when we
• 3:08
  Speaker 1: asked Jordan, he said it should have been a pick.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, you may be talking about the bigger play there
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  Speaker 2: in the second quarter. Is that what you're talking about? Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: just the way we're leveraging the routes and the coverage
• 3:19
  Speaker 2: we were playing. we would have liked to kind of
• 3:24
  Speaker 2: trying to get it shoved a little bit. So it's, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it was just really a miscommunication for us on the
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  Speaker 2: back end, to be honest with you.
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  Speaker 3: Getting turnovers in the red zone so far, you guys
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  Speaker 3: have been able to do that a couple of times
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  Speaker 3: this year. And I mean, really keep points off the
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  Speaker 3: board overall. I mean, what's the, is there, what's that
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  Speaker 3: sign up for this defense? I mean, to be able
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  Speaker 3: to not let the other team put points on the board.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's the biggest thing it shows is, um,
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  Speaker 2: how detailed the guys have been with executing their job,
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  Speaker 2: you know, down there and defending every blade of grass.
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  Speaker 1: You know, they're not in until they're in.
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  Speaker 2: And I think those guys have a mentality in that
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  Speaker 2: room of continuing to play the next play. And look,
• 4:02
  Speaker 2: if somebody got inside the 10, something bad happened, right?
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  Speaker 1: So you got to be able to deal with issues.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's really more of a credit to the
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  Speaker 2: character of the guys. They're locked in, you know, whether
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  Speaker 2: if it's first down, second down, third down, fourth down,
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  Speaker 2: in the low red, they know if they do their job,
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  Speaker 2: they trust one another that the guy next to him.
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  Speaker 1: Going to do his.
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  Speaker 2: Um, and that's really what I think all great defenses
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  Speaker 2: are built on trust, you know, and I've said this
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  Speaker 2: to you guys before, but trust is gained in drops
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  Speaker 2: and it's lost in buckets. And if you're a guy
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  Speaker 2: that does his job all the time, uh, people start
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  Speaker 2: to really trust that, Hey, that guy's going to be
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  Speaker 2: where he's supposed to be. His eyes are going to
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  Speaker 2: be right. My eyes got to be right. You know,
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  Speaker 2: and when you're one of those guys that doesn't do that,
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  Speaker 2: you know, it's easy to lose trust. So, um, I
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  Speaker 2: think that's really what it speaks to more than anything.
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  Speaker 1: Thomas Jr.
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  Speaker 3: the one of those guys that's kind of earned trust
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  Speaker 3: in those drops every day?
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  Speaker 1: Definitely.
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  Speaker 2: I think the guys in the defensive line room, they
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  Speaker 2: trust him. They know Brian's going to go. And you
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  Speaker 2: can trust that he's going to play hard and give
• 5:00
  Speaker 2: you everything he has. That's really a good example, honestly.
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  Speaker 2: And I feel like even on the coaching staff, you
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  Speaker 2: see guys that do their job and they're going to
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  Speaker 2: play hard all the time. Like I say, you're going
• 5:11
  Speaker 2: to break glass and go 1,000 miles an hour. You
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  Speaker 2: have a lot of trust that the guy's going to
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  Speaker 2: do that. That's a good feeling. I think Dennis has
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  Speaker 2: had a really good start for us, super active as
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  Speaker 2: a pass rusher for us. But Dennis is one of
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  Speaker 2: the guys that has a lot of roles in our defense.
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  Speaker 2: So he does not have an easy job. He's got
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  Speaker 2: to do a bunch of different things. He aligns inside,
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  Speaker 2: he aligns outside, he aligns off the ball. When I
• 5:38
  Speaker 2: was in Miami in the past, we kind of used
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  Speaker 2: Andrew Van Ginkle like that. And Dennis is similar in
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  Speaker 2: that role for us here. He's a guy that's predominantly
• 5:47
  Speaker 2: been an edge guy throughout his career, but really has
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  Speaker 2: taught himself. And Tim Luke, who's done an unbelievable job
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  Speaker 2: getting him ready to play off the ball. And I
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  Speaker 2: think that's where he's really excelled. The pass coverage, his
• 6:00
  Speaker 2: eye discipline has been tremendous so far this year. And
• 6:03
  Speaker 2: he's just continued to make himself a better player at
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  Speaker 2: this stage of his career, which is really cool.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's hard to do.
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  Speaker 2: Just shows the attention of detail, or attention to detail,
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  Speaker 2: I should say, of the guy.
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  Speaker 4: To the end of last regular season. You guys have
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  Speaker 4: been able to, a lot of games at the end
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  Speaker 4: of them, get your younger guys in, your depth guys
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  Speaker 4: come in. How important has it been to see those
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  Speaker 4: guys get reps, and is that rare just to be
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  Speaker 4: able to play them as much as you guys have
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  Speaker 4: been able to?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, that's credit to the offense more than anything.
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  Speaker 2: You know, those guys have done a great job. We've
• 6:32
  Speaker 2: had the opportunity to get our guys out there and
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  Speaker 2: get them reps, and I think of certain guys like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, even Rayon Lane last year as the season
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  Speaker 2: went on, he got to play a ton on defense.
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  Speaker 1: I felt that helped him.
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  Speaker 2: You know, and some of our younger guys last year,
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  Speaker 2: like Branson being a rookie, he got to get out there.
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  Speaker 2: Even the other day, getting Jalen McLeod out there, who
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  Speaker 2: did a phenomenal job on special teams. And he's shown
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  Speaker 2: us a lot of those things in camp, but now
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  Speaker 2: getting him the opportunity to get out there, get some
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  Speaker 2: live bullets, get real work in a game, a game setting,
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  Speaker 2: it's awesome.
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  Speaker 1: You know, and I think it's.
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  Speaker 2: Really helpful for those guys, honestly, the confidence of the
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  Speaker 2: player to go out there and excel in a game
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  Speaker 2: That's real.
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  Speaker 1: That's a real thing.
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  Speaker 2: So it's really been great.
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  Speaker 1: It's a great opportunity for them. Big time.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, his technique, I feel like, has continued to improve,
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  Speaker 2: especially in the run game. He's a guy that has
• 7:29
  Speaker 2: been doing a lot of dirty work in there in
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  Speaker 2: the run game, playing square.
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  Speaker 1: His block recognition has been really, really good. which is
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  Speaker 1: hard to do.
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  Speaker 2: Things happen so fast as a defensive lineman, and to
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  Speaker 2: play with block rec and do a good job recognizing, hey,
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  Speaker 2: when is the scoop, when is the slip, when is
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  Speaker 2: the back block, and being able to play those blocks
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  Speaker 2: accordingly with technique and limit space, he's really gotten a
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  Speaker 2: lot better at that. I think some of the guys
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  Speaker 2: in the front have been helpful and impactful for him
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  Speaker 2: that way, too. I think Derek LeBlanc's done a great
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  Speaker 2: job with him, like really just over the course of
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  Speaker 2: since he's been here in the spring, but and Matt
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  Speaker 2: Edwards also. But I think D. Ham, Eric, Matt Dickerson,
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  Speaker 2: those guys have been really good for him too. They're
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  Speaker 2: always kind of working together and talking together, and he's
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  Speaker 2: excelled that way.
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  Speaker 1: Just how impressive was that play?
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  Speaker 4: He basically ran this route for the receiver and then
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  Speaker 4: stepped in front of the Cavs.
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  Speaker 2: I've said this to you guys too, and we say
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  Speaker 2: this in the defensive room, you probably get sick of
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  Speaker 2: hearing it, but the progression of every play is eyes, feet,
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  Speaker 2: hands violent finish and your eyes control the function of
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  Speaker 2: your body and your eyes are going to tell your
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  Speaker 2: feet what to do you know your hands are going
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  Speaker 2: to buy you time whether that's destructing a block or
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  Speaker 2: playing on the line of scrimmage you know impressed man
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  Speaker 2: whatever it may be um and then it's up to
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  Speaker 2: you you got to violently finish you got to aggressively
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  Speaker 2: go attack the ball you got to aggressively try and
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  Speaker 2: knock the ball off of somebody you got to aggressively
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  Speaker 2: you know finish on a tackle enter the right way
• 9:00
  Speaker 2: with violence um and i think that's a great example
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  Speaker 2: that clip is probably a really good example at that
• 9:06
  Speaker 2: position of what we're talking about. You know, if your
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  Speaker 2: eyes are telling your feet what to do and you're
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  Speaker 2: going through the break area and your eyes are right,
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  Speaker 2: your feet are.
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  Speaker 1: Going to be right.
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  Speaker 2: There's going to be anticipation of what's going to happen.
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  Speaker 2: And then you can go ahead and make the play.
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  Speaker 2: Big plays are made with anticipation.
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  Speaker 1: If you don't know what you're doing, you have anxiety.
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  Speaker 1: And if you do know what you're doing, you have anticipation.
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  Speaker 2: And that to me is when you're talking about people's
• 9:28
  Speaker 2: eyes and getting them to play fast. If I line
• 9:31
  Speaker 2: up pre-snap and I know it's one of two things,
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  Speaker 2: It's a lot easier than if it's one.
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  Speaker 1: Of 10 things. Trust me, that's a bad feeling.
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  Speaker 2: I think for everybody, when you can get your eyes
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  Speaker 2: right and you know, hey, I'm looking for this or this,
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  Speaker 2: and the second it happens, you can fire.
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  Speaker 1: You got all the skills God gave you when your
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  Speaker 1: eyes are right.
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  Speaker 5: He was also talking about how you would sometimes show
• 9:55
  Speaker 5: the guys throwaways.
• 9:57
  Speaker 1: Those are kind of the best ways that can be there.
• 10:00
  Speaker 1: Why do you do that and why do you think
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  Speaker 1: it's important?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's certainly an important part of our process and
• 10:05
  Speaker 5: it's an important part of delivering the message that the
• 10:07
  Speaker 5: process drives the results because we know there are certain
• 10:10
  Speaker 5: things throughout the course of a game that might not
• 10:12
  Speaker 5: get the praise of the touchdown but are just as
• 10:15
  Speaker 5: important to creating the opportunity for the touchdown as the
• 10:17
  Speaker 5: touchdown itself. So getting guys to understand whether it's a
• 10:20
  Speaker 5: fundamental that they're executing or it's a decision that he's making,
• 10:24
  Speaker 5: that the process of executing those things is more important
• 10:27
  Speaker 5: than the result or at least as important as the result.
• 10:31
  Speaker 5: It's kind of something that happens over the course of
• 10:34
  Speaker 5: the offseason and during the week that we try to
• 10:36
  Speaker 5: create with some of the messages in film that we show. So,
• 10:38
  Speaker 5: for example, you have a play where Trevor's throwing the
• 10:41
  Speaker 5: ball away on a movement where he's booting out from
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  Speaker 5: left to right or right to left and he throws
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  Speaker 5: the ball away and then the very next play he
• 10:48
  Speaker 5: throws a touchdown. Well, that touchdown's only possible because he
• 10:51
  Speaker 5: made the smart decision to throw the ball away and
• 10:53
  Speaker 5: we stayed in a positive situation. We stayed on track
• 10:56
  Speaker 5: and we could call the next play. Guys often are so,
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  Speaker 5: you know, stressed to try to make a play every
• 11:01
  Speaker 5: single player and make something work that either they make
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  Speaker 5: a bad decision or results in a sack or fumbles
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  Speaker 5: and all the other negative things that could happen that
• 11:09
  Speaker 5: opposed to doing the right thing for that play at
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  Speaker 5: that right moment, making that hard decision that might not
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  Speaker 5: be the result that you want, but sticking with that
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  Speaker 5: process will lead to a good result on the following play.
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  Speaker 5: So I really appreciate his maturity and his decision-making, the
• 11:23
  Speaker 5: balance he understands of attacking defenses when opportunities present themselves,
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  Speaker 5: but keeping us in positive situations because if we get
• 11:29
  Speaker 5: from second and eight to third and eight, I still
• 11:31
  Speaker 5: feel really good about him with the ball in his hands.
• 11:34
  Speaker 4: How do you feel like he's grown in that area?
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  Speaker 4: I know the first couple of years of his career,
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  Speaker 4: he had about 60 turnovers.
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  Speaker 5: So, you know, how has he sort of grown since.
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  Speaker 1: You guys have been here?
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  Speaker 5: That's a great question. Again, I mean, I think he's
• 11:48
  Speaker 5: done a great job of finding that balance. That balance
• 11:50
  Speaker 5: is so hard. I think his understanding of the game
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  Speaker 5: from a big picture standpoint has helped understand when I'm
• 11:57
  Speaker 5: making those riskier decisions and when I'm not. So I
• 12:01
  Speaker 5: think that's a lot of how he's become more successful
• 12:03
  Speaker 5: taking care of the football. In part two, growing in
• 12:06
  Speaker 5: his understanding of defense and scheme and knowledge and just
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  Speaker 5: his general improvement as a quarterback, not just specifically to situations,
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  Speaker 5: allows you to make better decisions and put the ball
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  Speaker 5: at risk less.
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  Speaker 1: Frequently, I should say.
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  Speaker 5: And I think really his improvement overall and then his
• 12:24
  Speaker 5: improvement just understanding decision-making, trusting himself on third down has
• 12:27
  Speaker 5: really been the big difference. Definitely something that he's worked
• 12:40
  Speaker 5: on a lot of reps and understanding, just like Trevor
• 12:43
  Speaker 5: with understanding defenses, his understanding of what a front looks
• 12:46
  Speaker 5: like and how different fronts play because one defensive front
• 12:50
  Speaker 5: may look the same where they're in the same alignment,
• 12:52
  Speaker 5: but the techniques that they play may make those blocks
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  Speaker 5: hit differently. or it may make the run declare differently
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  Speaker 5: based on how the linebackers spill or they flow or
• 13:02
  Speaker 5: guys who are more athletic or more physical hit our
• 13:04
  Speaker 5: offensive blocks differently. So taking that kind of surface level
• 13:08
  Speaker 5: understanding that he may have had last year, where he's
• 13:10
  Speaker 5: initially learning the system, trying to figure out what to
• 13:12
  Speaker 5: do and learning that second and third level understanding of
• 13:15
  Speaker 5: what the defense does. And that creates this response. And
• 13:17
  Speaker 5: then that creates a secondary response. That's what's really grown
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  Speaker 5: this off season in this training camp, where you see
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  Speaker 5: him able to make those decisions, those cuts that much faster.
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  Speaker 1: I think that.
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  Speaker 5: Certainly we want to get those blocks completed and executed
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  Speaker 5: and I think you look at some of the screens
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  Speaker 5: and every once in a while you have one that
• 13:44
  Speaker 5: seems set up and you're one block away so you
• 13:46
  Speaker 5: don't want to throw away the scheme element of it
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  Speaker 5: or you don't want to set up throw away the
• 13:51
  Speaker 5: the back or the way he's setting up the screen
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  Speaker 5: but you just adjust maybe the way he's trying to
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  Speaker 5: hit off of the block to help set up that
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  Speaker 5: block a little bit differently. You try to change the
• 14:00
  Speaker 5: criteria or the framework that an offensive line approaches the block,
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  Speaker 5: whether they're waiting on an offensive lineman or whether they're
• 14:05
  Speaker 5: attacking an offensive lineman. It's such a fine balance in
• 14:07
  Speaker 5: the screen game that you never want to overreact based
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  Speaker 5: on one screen there, where certainly we would have loved
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  Speaker 5: to have got those blocks completed. But we know the
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  Speaker 5: next time we run a similar screen or maybe even
• 14:17
  Speaker 5: that exact screen, the look will be different and the
• 14:19
  Speaker 5: response to the defense will be different. So there's always
• 14:21
  Speaker 5: going to be gray area in the screen. So we
• 14:23
  Speaker 5: try to find the balance of, giving the guys the
• 14:26
  Speaker 5: answers and building them in ways where they're clean looks,
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  Speaker 5: but allowing the guys to play fast and not have
• 14:30
  Speaker 5: to think about 5,000 different rules because the looks are
• 14:33
  Speaker 5: so different every time.
• 14:36
  Speaker 4: Thanks, Lawrence, this week. I think four bowlers from last
• 14:40
  Speaker 4: three weeks, Emmanuel's had a chance to get reps against.
• 14:42
  Speaker 4: How much can that help a rookie just facing some
• 14:44
  Speaker 4: of the best of the best right now?
• 14:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's invaluable. You can't really replicate that experience. We're
• 14:50
  Speaker 5: fortunate to have the guys we have here to go
• 14:53
  Speaker 5: against in training camp every day, whether it's our edge
• 14:54
  Speaker 5: guys or our interior guys. And I think that kind of,
• 14:57
  Speaker 5: you know, the old cliche of iron sharpening iron, but
• 15:00
  Speaker 5: those guys going good on good and continue to get
• 15:02
  Speaker 5: those reps is really something that will allow Emmanuel to
• 15:06
  Speaker 5: grow not only throughout the season, but you saw the
• 15:08
  Speaker 5: improvement throughout training camp. I think the nice thing about
• 15:12
  Speaker 5: our group and the great thing about our group is
• 15:14
  Speaker 5: like how they play left and right. They've been put
• 15:16
  Speaker 5: in a bunch of different situations, even in these first
• 15:17
  Speaker 5: couple of weeks, not only going against great scheme, but again,
• 15:20
  Speaker 5: great players, but going against different schemes as well, where
• 15:23
  Speaker 5: he's seeing guys who are playing a bunch of different techniques,
• 15:26
  Speaker 5: not just a bunch of different body types. So it's
• 15:27
  Speaker 5: great to have that early in the season, as opposed
• 15:30
  Speaker 5: to you play the same scheme or the same exact
• 15:32
  Speaker 5: defense tackle for the first four weeks. And then late
• 15:34
  Speaker 5: in the season, you're trying to figure out something that's
• 15:35
  Speaker 5: totally different once you've fallen into a rhythm of it.
• 15:38
  Speaker 5: So for him to get out there and face those
• 15:40
  Speaker 5: different techniques, face those different types of plays really invaluable.
• 15:42
  Speaker 5: And it's, it's awesome to see the way he's embraced
• 15:44
  Speaker 5: all the different challenges kind of on a week to
• 15:46
  Speaker 5: week basis, things changing. I think that will be hopefully
• 15:55
  Speaker 5: something we continue to evolve what he's brought or what
• 15:58
  Speaker 5: he'll bring. But what he has brought is the same
• 16:01
  Speaker 5: things that we probably talked about on draft night when
• 16:03
  Speaker 5: we got him here was, The mentality, the physicality, the
• 16:06
  Speaker 5: ability to have that balance of the run game and
• 16:08
  Speaker 5: the pass game because he's able to play in line,
• 16:10
  Speaker 5: he's able to play off the ball. We haven't got
• 16:12
  Speaker 5: to feature him as much in some of the fullback
• 16:14
  Speaker 5: stuff or some of the other stuff that we know
• 16:16
  Speaker 5: that he's capable of doing. Or even maybe feature him
• 16:18
  Speaker 5: as much in the pass game as we would like to.
• 16:20
  Speaker 5: That's more of a product of sometimes you get certain
• 16:23
  Speaker 5: plays called or certain coverages versus certain things and you
• 16:25
  Speaker 5: can't feature him the way you necessarily wanted to going
• 16:27
  Speaker 5: into a game plan. But we know he's more than
• 16:29
  Speaker 5: capable of that stuff. So hopefully it continues to evolve
• 16:32
  Speaker 5: in the pass game and some of the versatility. that
• 16:35
  Speaker 5: he brings to the table. But I think from a,
• 16:37
  Speaker 5: from the get-go, like what we've seen so far has
• 16:39
  Speaker 5: been the physicality in the run game, ability to move
• 16:41
  Speaker 5: edges or ability to insert and pull. So he does
• 16:43
  Speaker 5: a lot of different things that Brenton does as well,
• 16:46
  Speaker 5: but having both of them able to do both things
• 16:48
  Speaker 5: or all things provides a really nice balance for us.
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: When you have so many playmakers of different mouths to
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: feed on the offense, one football, do you feel the
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: need to try and get guys involved and get them
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: going early in the season? Or is it just kind of,
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: you just go with the flow?
• 17:01
  Speaker 5: You certainly, uh, I would certainly love to leave a
• 17:04
  Speaker 5: game saying we've got every single guy had a touch
• 17:06
  Speaker 5: or shoot. I wish every guy got a touchdown. That'd
• 17:08
  Speaker 5: be great for us. But it is a little bit
• 17:11
  Speaker 5: more of the flow of the game because those guys,
• 17:14
  Speaker 5: we don't have very many guys that are only good
• 17:17
  Speaker 5: at one thing or this guy can only get the
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: ball in this specific situation. So it makes it nice
• 17:21
  Speaker 5: because we don't have to force them the ball. We
• 17:23
  Speaker 5: don't have to force them into certain situations as much
• 17:25
  Speaker 5: as you might have to when you have a, for example,
• 17:27
  Speaker 5: a receiver that only runs a certain series of routes
• 17:29
  Speaker 5: or a back that's only good on a certain number
• 17:31
  Speaker 5: of run schemes. Because we have relatively versatile guys, it's
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: nice because we can continue to attack defenses in whatever
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: opportunity they present that's best for us as an offense,
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: and it pretty naturally will get the ball spread out. Now,
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: some weeks might be more than others. Like one week
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: might be you might have Jacoby might have a couple
• 17:47
  Speaker 5: more catches. One week Parker might have a couple more catches.
• 17:49
  Speaker 5: One week two might have some more. C-Rod might have
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: some more. But over the course of four or five weeks,
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: I think when you look back at it, based on
• 17:55
  Speaker 5: the different schemes and based on everything we're trying to hit,
• 17:57
  Speaker 5: it will probably balance itself out pretty nicely.
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: Whereas a lot of different paths for the team, what
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: do you show that shows you guys can shoulder that responsibility?
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a little bit like Nate with first and foremost,
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: the physicality. He's a big, strong guy who's not only
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: big and strong and physical in the run game, but
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: he's big and strong and physical in the pass game.
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: And then we mentioned a couple weeks ago, he can
• 18:20
  Speaker 5: still separate at the top of the route. He's still
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: fast enough to separate guys whether he's running away or
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: running deep down the field. So to have that type
• 18:28
  Speaker 5: of weapon where you have a guy that you can
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: now match up and you see sometimes blocking defensive ends,
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: sometimes blocking linebackers, then he's outside running routes on corners,
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: those type of pieces really make it difficult for defenses,
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: in my opinion, in our opinion, because it allows us
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: to play in certain formations, certain sets that are maybe
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: no different than having an extra tight end, and the
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: next thing you know we're playing a different formation that's
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: no different than having that extra receiver. So the same
• 18:49
  Speaker 5: thing that makes Brenton and Nate valuable, the fact that
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: they can do receiver things as tight ends, and tight
• 18:54
  Speaker 5: end things when they're lined up or fullback things when
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: they're lined up like there. Well, same thing for Josh.
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: A guy with that type of versatility provides a lot
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: of optionality for us on offense without having to change personnel.
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: So now if you're a defense looking at us, we
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: have a bunch of different formations and sets and run
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: schemes and pass schemes, all without you knowing what we're
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: doing until that ball's snapped.