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Ep.01 | Embracing Imperfection & Following the Nudge · Curiously Guided Podcast

0:10
SPEAKER_00: All right, welcome to our very first episode of the Curiously Guided Podcast.
0:16
SPEAKER_00: We're your host, Mariah and Shay.
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SPEAKER_00: Two intuitive business strategists exploring the intersection of entrepreneurship, spirituality, and the subconscious mind.
0:29
SPEAKER_02: We actually recorded this first episode a few weeks ago.
0:33
SPEAKER_02: Now that we're getting a little closer to launch, we're reviewing it, going through editing, noticing that we're both feeling a little squeamish about, ooh, why did I say that?
0:43
SPEAKER_02: Noticing all kinds of nerves popping up.
0:47
SPEAKER_02: But instead of going back and re-editing the episode a whole bunch or reshooting it, we're gonna try to honor the lesson that came through while we shot the original episode, which is how to embrace imperfection, how to really, you know, dance with the perfectionist that I think lives in all of us, and how really by chasing imperfection in your business, it can be one of the most powerful tools you can use.
1:16
SPEAKER_02: So excited to have you join us, looking forward to the future.
1:20
SPEAKER_02: As you notice, we'll definitely settle into a groove in the second half of the episode.
1:24
SPEAKER_02: And Mariah, do you want to share anything, any reflections or thoughts you have before we dive in?
1:30
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, for sure.
1:31
SPEAKER_00: It's like um after listening to the episode, it's like part of me did want to re-record.
1:38
SPEAKER_00: And then the other part of me was like, yo, we spit so much wisdom and just like really good lines that I don't know if we could ever get that back.
1:51
SPEAKER_00: So yeah, if you guys are listening to this, definitely try to see if you can notice the difference between like where our nerves settle a little bit and when we like really allow ourselves to just like be taken with the flow of everything.
2:06
SPEAKER_00: Because, like, you know, I obviously noticed and Jay noticed, but I also think that we're just like our own biggest critics when it comes to like listening back to things.
2:18
SPEAKER_00: So yeah, I'm excited for you guys to to take a listen here and let us know if you can if you can notice the difference.
2:26
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and one more thing.
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SPEAKER_02: Um, I hope if you have something new you're starting and actually starting it is feeling hard.
2:34
SPEAKER_02: Let this be some encouragement.
2:36
SPEAKER_02: You know, it can be awkward, it doesn't have to be perfect.
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SPEAKER_02: There can be audio issues, there can be mumbles and stumbles, and it can still be really awesome and have a lot of value.
2:48
SPEAKER_02: So take the first step or take the next step.
2:51
SPEAKER_02: Let this be some encouragement.
2:53
SPEAKER_02: And um, yeah, with that, let's actually dive into today's episode.
2:57
SPEAKER_02: I'm excited about this podcast because for me it's gonna be an experiment in, you know, letting curiosity guide the way, truly, you know, like this podcast as an idea is you and I trusting ourselves and trusting the intuitive nudge to do this.
3:12
SPEAKER_02: And, you know, like even though it's taken us some time to get our act together and actually film this first recording, I'm excited for it to like document and like archive, like you've talked about before, our journey and trusting ourselves and like just saying yes and seeing what happens, you know, based on our intuition.
3:30
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and like it's funny because I'm already excited to listen back to this first episode and I don't know, a year, two years, three years from now, and just kind of see like how much we've changed and like how the journey unfolds.
3:43
SPEAKER_00: And like I'm just really excited to connect with people and like how a possible community could be formed, and like just really find humans that are as curious as we are about like what we're doing, how we're doing it, and how we're living.
3:59
SPEAKER_02: Yes, exactly.
4:00
SPEAKER_02: Fans we want the reason we are starting this is because we want to connect with other people who are on this journey with us and kind of having these same thoughts and working through these same things.
4:11
SPEAKER_02: So that's definitely for our intention for this is just get out there and find like-minded people who kind of are thinking about the world like we are.
4:20
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and we're kind of just um walking our talk and like allowing ourselves to be as transparent as possible.
4:31
SPEAKER_00: So it's funny because like me and Shay both have a background of like being super strategic and having plans and strategy and planning.
4:42
SPEAKER_00: And for this podcast, we're just like allowing it to unfold however the hell it wants to unfold, and like that feels kind of new for us.
4:53
SPEAKER_00: Yes, and you know, I've been on podcasts before, but like I was also the person that created a full script that I had to read because I was so horrified to mess it up.
5:04
SPEAKER_00: So it's going to be a really awesome learning experience in trusting myself and my voice and what I have to say, and just realizing that, like, I don't know, there's wisdom in that.
5:17
SPEAKER_00: And so hopefully that inspires you guys listening to know that like even when you fuck it up, even when you mumble your words, even when you don't have the perfect script, like it's still helpful because you're connecting with other people and none of us are perfect, even though Instagram likes to play like we are, right?
5:40
SPEAKER_02: Oh, I love that exactly.
5:43
SPEAKER_02: Um, I before we started this off, Mariah said, like, let this be perfectly imperfect.
5:48
SPEAKER_02: You know, this is an experiment and be perfectly imperfect, like just two online business owners who up until this point have been very obsessed with finding all the facts, doing all the research, looking for all the best practice.
6:00
SPEAKER_02: And um, this is like an exercise and a practice and us surrendering, you know, to flow and to creativity and really allowing ourselves to um be a bit more vulnerable and go a bit more with the flow and not try to perfect everything and memorize everything.
6:17
SPEAKER_02: So, yes, that is the journey that we are excited to go on with.
6:21
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's just so funny you're saying that.
6:23
SPEAKER_00: And like a little piece of me is like, do we wanna do this?
6:28
SPEAKER_02: Like, no, when I pulled Termo around this, I was like, oh, this is gonna be big, but it's gonna be, it's gonna be a lot, you know.
6:35
SPEAKER_02: So I think it's definitely gonna be an adventure.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and I just want to thank everybody listening for tuning in, coming along for the ride because I have a feeling it's gonna be a great one.
6:46
SPEAKER_00: So yeah, let's kind of just dive into who we are.
6:51
SPEAKER_00: Like what are you right now in this moment?
6:56
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, who am I right now in this moment?
6:58
SPEAKER_02: Um, today in particular, I'm feeling very, very human.
7:03
SPEAKER_02: Um, Mariah and I have been talking about, you know, as you know, getting out there and starting this podcast and getting my face out there is definitely an up level for me.
7:13
SPEAKER_02: And this past week has been kind of like challenging.
7:16
SPEAKER_02: I always think about my life like I'm in a video game, and I've had a lot of obstacles and new enemies pop up in the last week.
7:23
SPEAKER_02: And my lovely friend Mariah reminded me that um this is all normal.
7:28
SPEAKER_02: And so I am an online business owner who is also very human and struggles with a lot of like daily bullshit, and um very interested in you know continual growth and constant learning.
7:42
SPEAKER_02: So I started my business um online 2017, I think.
7:47
SPEAKER_02: And um, it's really been like I've taught myself everything.
7:51
SPEAKER_02: I was really unhappy in like a nine to five environment.
7:53
SPEAKER_02: I hated being in a cubicle, I hated if it was a nice day outside.
7:57
SPEAKER_02: I had to like sit at my desk.
7:59
SPEAKER_02: I just thought, you know, I want to go sit in the park and like take a long lunch with my friend, and and I can get all my work done.
8:06
SPEAKER_02: I was frustrated because I was doing all my work and all my boss's work, and you know, I still had time to go perhaps like spend an afternoon outdoors, but I couldn't.
8:16
SPEAKER_02: I felt like I was kind of like, you know, jailed to my chair, and I was having a lot of like physical health issues and back issues, and so I really just went on a long journey of okay, I really I have my master's degree in this field, but I don't want to do it.
8:31
SPEAKER_02: What else could I do?
8:32
SPEAKER_02: And how could I kind of bring the skills that I have and learn some new skills?
8:36
SPEAKER_02: Um, I've been earning money online since I was 15.
8:40
SPEAKER_02: Basically, as soon as I heard about eBay, I started like flipping things.
8:43
SPEAKER_02: So I've always been upset.
8:44
SPEAKER_00: So that's still that still blows my mind.
8:47
SPEAKER_00: I remember when you told me that story, and you're like, yeah, been making the cash online since I was an infant, and I was like, yeah, that is literally wild.
8:57
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I as soon as I figured out you could, I started hustling online and I've done it all.
9:03
SPEAKER_02: You know, I've been on Amazon and Etsy and eBay, and I had um, I have a creative agency that I started with my husband.
9:11
SPEAKER_02: So kind of through all of that product work, we found that we really loved branding and making packages and coming up with names and logos.
9:20
SPEAKER_02: And so my husband and I taught ourselves um all of the skills you would need as a designer.
9:26
SPEAKER_02: So we learned the Adobe Suite.
9:28
SPEAKER_02: And at that time, we had a lot of friends starting businesses and they needed logos and websites, so we just were kind of like, yeah, we can do this.
9:36
SPEAKER_02: And so we just started, you know, doing work for our friends and teaching ourselves the skills we needed, and we're busy ever since, you know, like definitely it was very easy to get branding and website work.
9:47
SPEAKER_02: We were really swamped.
9:49
SPEAKER_02: Um, it was busy.
9:51
SPEAKER_02: I kind of uh built a business that I ended up really hating, honestly.
9:56
SPEAKER_02: Um, I reached a point where the business and the creative agency, the way it was, I was waking up every morning just feeling very um like dread.
10:07
SPEAKER_02: It felt really heavy.
10:08
SPEAKER_02: And that was the opposite of why I left the nine to five in the work in the first place.
10:12
SPEAKER_02: So I was at a point where I was really frustrated with okay, I I can build a business, I've figured it out, I've built a successful business, but I feel worse, honestly.
10:22
SPEAKER_02: Like, do I just need to go back?
10:24
SPEAKER_02: So um, that was about a year or so ago, probably more now.
10:28
SPEAKER_02: And since then, it's really been a process of like getting in community with people like you and all of these other wonderful humans we've run into in this past year, and starting to realize that um I can't build a business based on someone else's model.
10:43
SPEAKER_02: So I am currently on the journey of how do I pivot my business and I have into something that really serves my skill set and makes me feel lit up and really makes me feel like I'm doing what I've been called here to do and like the work I want to see in the world.
11:00
SPEAKER_02: And so yeah, I am now um a sales consultant for creatives.
11:06
SPEAKER_02: What I do is I'm I'm really obsessed with the idea of creatives making more money.
11:10
SPEAKER_02: Um, I think there's this weird belief that a lot of people have that people doing creative work should be paid less because they're doing something they love.
11:18
SPEAKER_02: And I really, especially today, like the value of people doing the work they feel creatively called to do, it's just needed more than ever.
11:28
SPEAKER_02: And if I can empower people and help them do the work that lights them up, and I can help them market that and sell it at higher prices and get up out in the world, that that really lights my fire.
11:38
SPEAKER_02: So I am a sales strategist, I do a lot of coaching and mentoring for creatives.
11:43
SPEAKER_02: Um, it's been a joy to figure out what that looks like, and I'm still figuring it out, but um, so far I've found success and I'm actually waking up feeling happy and excited, which is the goal.
11:56
SPEAKER_02: So the way I've got there is through a lot of self-work.
12:00
SPEAKER_02: Uh I thought I would get there by taking a ton of courses.
12:04
SPEAKER_02: I am a course winner.
12:05
SPEAKER_00: I don't we all don't we all wait, I don't need another course to figure out what I want to do.
12:14
SPEAKER_02: I I hoard them, but I want to buy more.
12:16
SPEAKER_02: I've got a whole list.
12:17
SPEAKER_02: Um, I thought the way to figure all this out was by learning all the techniques and skills and tactics, and that is definitely a piece of it.
12:25
SPEAKER_02: But what honestly brought Mariah and I together was we're both on this journey of there's gotta be more to building this online business because, like, yes, I can do it, but like if I hate my life at the end of the day, what's the point?
12:38
SPEAKER_02: So Mariah and I are really trying to figure out let's get clear on the lifestyles we want to live, and then how do we build businesses that support that, you know, dream life or our core desired feelings we want to have on a daily basis?
12:52
SPEAKER_02: And so that that's the work right now.
12:55
SPEAKER_02: That's where I am today.
12:56
SPEAKER_02: That's the journey that we're on.
12:57
SPEAKER_02: I'm hoping to explore that on this podcast.
13:01
SPEAKER_02: And um, yeah, I just talked about myself forever, which feels weird.
13:05
SPEAKER_02: So I'm now gonna ping it.
13:06
SPEAKER_02: Oh, girl, get it a year.
13:09
SPEAKER_02: Mariah and I have such a similar origin story.
13:13
SPEAKER_02: And so I know that you have a lot of like started out in the web design world, totally DIY.
13:19
SPEAKER_02: Take us down, you know, what is the origin story for Mariah and how did you get here today?
13:23
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
13:24
SPEAKER_00: Whew, man, it's so funny.
13:27
SPEAKER_00: Every time I hear this question, I literally just want to start off with my birth story about like cold summer day on July 18th, but we're just gonna fast forward.
13:38
SPEAKER_00: Um, so curiously guided, the name of the podcast, it's so funny because like when we first came down to the name of the podcast, I felt like it was the phrase of my life.
13:55
SPEAKER_00: Like that's that sounds super intense and dramatic, but like for real, for real.
14:01
SPEAKER_00: So like I remember when I was 16 years old, I got my first job.
14:04
SPEAKER_00: You know, you're getting into the work world and you're, I think I was making like$6 an hour at a pizzeria.
14:11
SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
14:12
SPEAKER_00: And like you're just really starting to like figure out how things work, how money works, how what skill set you have.
14:23
SPEAKER_00: You're kind of starting to play with all of that.
14:25
SPEAKER_00: And like I worked for independent companies, businesses, like small family-owned businesses for most of that time frame from 16 until 22, working at like a pizzeria.
14:41
SPEAKER_00: I worked at a pharmacy where it was literally just me and the pharmacist.
14:45
SPEAKER_00: It was her business, and then I was like her right-hand man doing that stuff, worked at like a daycare, all of that.
14:51
SPEAKER_00: But like what I started noticing even when I was 20 was that I only stay in one spot for up to a year and a half.
14:59
SPEAKER_00: And then I feel like I'm turning my wheels and there's more for me.
15:03
SPEAKER_00: So it's like I've always been super curious and always leaned into the curiosity and allowed that curiosity to really guide me.
15:12
SPEAKER_00: And so I remember like I was in school.
15:16
SPEAKER_00: So I went to college, I didn't get my degree, but I was in school and I changed my major like six times.
15:23
SPEAKER_00: And I remember the final one was for website development.
15:26
SPEAKER_00: And I was super excited.
15:27
SPEAKER_00: I was like, this is it.
15:28
SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna be a web developer.
15:30
SPEAKER_00: This is gonna be great.
15:31
SPEAKER_00: So I start my course studies, I'm learning online.
15:36
SPEAKER_00: And like how these people were teaching it, I mean, God bless them.
15:40
SPEAKER_00: But like how they were teaching, I was like, this shit is so outdated already.
15:44
SPEAKER_00: And I just started, by the time I'm finished with this, it's gonna be outdated.
15:48
SPEAKER_00: So I was like, you know what?
15:51
SPEAKER_00: Screw it, I'm gonna figure it out on my own.
15:54
SPEAKER_00: So during that exact same month is when I quit like the most corporate y job that I've ever had, which was literally a family-owned business, but it was like I was in a cubicle.
16:06
SPEAKER_00: So it was like a bigger family-owned business.
16:08
SPEAKER_00: Um, but I remember I only worked there for six weeks.
16:12
SPEAKER_00: And I remember texting my boss.
16:14
SPEAKER_00: It was literally the same month that I quit school.
16:17
SPEAKER_00: I texted my boss and I was like, like I was breaking up with him.
16:20
SPEAKER_00: I was like, yo, listen, it's not fair to you and it's not fair to me.
16:24
SPEAKER_00: My heart's just not in it.
16:25
SPEAKER_00: I'm never coming back again.
16:26
SPEAKER_00: I can't do it.
16:27
SPEAKER_00: You can't make me.
16:28
SPEAKER_00: No, no, no, no, no.
16:30
SPEAKER_00: So then I was like, okay, like what am I gonna do?
16:32
SPEAKER_00: And obviously, I had the privilege of like still living at home with my parents.
16:35
SPEAKER_00: My parents have always been like super supportive in terms of like, just do what makes you happy, Mariah.
16:43
SPEAKER_00: And I'm just like, mom, that's really shitty advice.
16:46
SPEAKER_00: But now as I'm older, I was like, I'm grateful that she gave me that and gave me that strength to push me even closer to curiosity.
16:54
SPEAKER_00: So I ended up like whipping up some HTML website portfolio, ended up getting a paid internship at yet again, a super small company where there it was literally two dudes that were four years older than me.
17:08
SPEAKER_00: They pretended like we had some big office, but it was really just us three kind of like hanging out.
17:15
SPEAKER_00: And the one co-founder was a web developer, and he just like taught me everything that he knew.
17:21
SPEAKER_00: And he's the one that introduced me to WordPress.
17:24
SPEAKER_00: So, fast forward a few months, they ended up going their separate ways.
17:28
SPEAKER_00: And so I was like, Oh, well, I actually like doing this.
17:31
SPEAKER_00: I'm just gonna start doing it for people.
17:33
SPEAKER_00: So then I created my own business doing website design and development.
17:38
SPEAKER_00: I think I did that for that was in 2015.
17:42
SPEAKER_00: I don't even know like how long that portion lasted, but I remember it being like growing really well and like getting successful in it.
17:52
SPEAKER_00: And I was like feeling really good.
17:53
SPEAKER_00: And then I was that year and a half rut hit, and I was like, yo, there's gotta be more in here because like this isn't really what I want.
18:01
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
18:02
SPEAKER_00: And like I'm just I feel like there's more to explore.
18:05
SPEAKER_00: So then I started diving into the world of SEO, which is like search engine optimization.
18:10
SPEAKER_00: And I remember like being in that pivot period where we would I would launch a client's website, they were super stoked about it.
18:19
SPEAKER_00: And then they would come back and they're just like, okay, now what?
18:23
SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, I don't know.
18:24
SPEAKER_00: I help you make websites.
18:26
SPEAKER_00: Like, what do you mean now what?
18:28
SPEAKER_00: Now you take it and run your business, like hilarious.
18:31
SPEAKER_02: But then I was like, you're not you're here with me forever.
18:34
SPEAKER_02: You need you're just gonna stop telling me what to do.
18:37
SPEAKER_01: I've had a lot, yeah.
18:39
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
18:40
SPEAKER_00: And then I was like, okay, whoa.
18:42
SPEAKER_00: So then I kind of just exploring the whole online business world a little bit, and I explain it like it's a portal, like you literally open up this door of like being an online business owner, and there's like things that you never knew were possible, and you can't come out of that world if you tried.
19:02
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's true.
19:03
SPEAKER_00: Like before that point, I was like, okay, I can only make$50, like$15 an hour, I can make$20 an hour max.
19:11
SPEAKER_00: Like, that's the ceiling, that's the cap.
19:12
SPEAKER_00: And then you walk into this online business world where people are literally making a million a year doing what they love.
19:20
SPEAKER_00: And I remember like all of a sudden, my curiosity was like ping, ping, ping, ping, ping.
19:26
SPEAKER_00: It was like so many ideas, and I was like, whoa, whoa.
19:32
SPEAKER_00: But I remember starting to like trying to figure out SEO.
19:36
SPEAKER_00: And it's like, I gravitate towards these things that I'm curious about, and then I naturally break them apart and put them together in a way that works for me.
19:46
SPEAKER_00: Apparently, that's been my process my entire life.
19:49
SPEAKER_00: I was just on the phone with my mom the other day, and she said that like she's got this coloring book that I created when I was like five years old, and I tried to like deconstruct a coloring book and like put it back together in a way that I thought that it would be.
20:01
SPEAKER_00: And like that, just I was like, oh my, I literally been curiously guided since since an infant.
20:08
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
20:09
SPEAKER_00: And so, like creating this podcast is just it feels full circle, even though I know that it's literally just the beginning.
20:18
SPEAKER_00: But so after like figuring out SEO, it's so funny because I hated it, but I hated the fact that it was like what everybody else said that it was.
20:28
SPEAKER_00: I just like the inner rebel comes out, and I'm like, you know, everybody says I have to do it this way.
20:33
SPEAKER_00: I don't want to.
20:34
SPEAKER_00: I don't want to do it that way, I hate that way.
20:36
SPEAKER_00: That seems like bullshit.
20:38
SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna break it apart and I'm gonna make it easy to understand and less serious and less overwhelming.
20:46
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
20:47
SPEAKER_02: One thing about your style is it's so demystifying because I feel like in the um the SEO world, it's a lot of like smoke and mirrors, and like, ooh, our secrets, and this is more complicated than you could ever understand.
21:02
SPEAKER_02: And you have such an awesome down-to-earth way of like, no, you can take there's things you can do, and like things you can learn.
21:10
SPEAKER_02: This is not rocket science, you know, and we can, yes, there are like mil multi-billion dollar like big companies that have these crazy strategy strategies, but like us individual small business owners, there's a lot of power here for us too, and we can do this.
21:26
SPEAKER_02: It's almost like an empowered perspective than like uh I feel like in that industry, it's typically like, you need us, you need to hire us, and we'll bring in all of our magical skills, and like you know, it's very helpless.
21:38
SPEAKER_02: I need you to come save me.
21:40
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and I just didn't like that model.
21:43
SPEAKER_00: I never did.
21:44
SPEAKER_00: I always felt that like if you can do it, I can do it too.
21:47
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
21:48
SPEAKER_00: And even with starting a business, I was like, if all of these people can do it, I can absolutely do it.
21:53
unknown: Yeah.
21:53
SPEAKER_00: So it was, yeah, it was the same as SEO.
21:56
SPEAKER_00: I remember when I was trying to figure it out and I would just see all of these articles.
22:00
SPEAKER_00: Google teaching people how to do it.
22:02
SPEAKER_00: And it was literally just like the content wasn't created for us.
22:07
SPEAKER_00: It wasn't created for the small business owner, the online business owner.
22:11
SPEAKER_00: It was either how to do SEO for like higher level website developers, website strategists, or like high-level agency people, or it was making it sound super complicated so that you turned around and hired the agency.
22:26
SPEAKER_00: And there was, I was like, no, no, thank you.
22:32
SPEAKER_00: So yeah, I mean, so SEO is like something that currently, right now, super still jazzes me up.
22:41
SPEAKER_00: I get really pumped to talk about it.
22:43
SPEAKER_00: Will it be that way forever?
22:45
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
22:46
SPEAKER_00: Maybe I'll hit my two and a half year point and I'll be like, lol buy.
22:50
SPEAKER_00: But I also think that like having the foundation of SEO, having the foundation that I learned from website strategy, from user experience, from design, all of that created this intensely strong and powerful foundation that I'm super, super grateful for.
23:09
SPEAKER_00: And like I do see how powerful having a foundation is.
23:16
SPEAKER_00: Like understanding all of that, blogging, testing, tweaking, understanding my clients, creating a good website, like all of that created the space that allows me to create this podcast because I don't have to right now work behind the scenes, do all of this work, trade my hours for money.
23:35
SPEAKER_00: Now I've created a foundation that runs itself.
23:39
SPEAKER_00: And now I have the space to go in to reflect what's working, what's not working, what life do I want to live, how can I tweak these things?
23:47
SPEAKER_00: How do I want to show up and just have more space to really allow the authentic versions of myself to emerge?
23:56
SPEAKER_00: So it's like I'm really grateful for this journey and how I've gotten here and who I am and what I've learned.
24:02
SPEAKER_00: And I love having all of these tools and these strategies in my belt, but it's also allowing myself to flow, to surrender.
24:12
SPEAKER_00: And like that's a lesson that in the past year I have gotten like a lot of lessons around.
24:22
SPEAKER_00: Yep, me too.
24:23
SPEAKER_00: And it's just, I'm just really grateful for like the dynamic difference from the balance of both of it.
24:30
SPEAKER_00: But like, yeah, in the past year, it's like I I hit a wall and I was like, I'm exhausted.
24:36
SPEAKER_00: I don't want to do anything.
24:37
SPEAKER_00: All of this sounds awful.
24:38
SPEAKER_00: And like I still liked SEO, but like I didn't want to show up.
24:42
SPEAKER_00: I didn't want to sell my packages, I didn't want to market.
24:45
SPEAKER_00: And I was like, okay, there has to be another way.
24:47
SPEAKER_00: And like I remember investing in these business coaches, spending a lot of money because I thought that they had answers that I didn't have.
24:56
SPEAKER_00: And I remember that being a very expensive lesson for me.
25:00
SPEAKER_00: Very grateful for those business coaches.
25:02
SPEAKER_00: I love them.
25:03
SPEAKER_00: But what I learned was that all of the answers are inside of me.
25:08
SPEAKER_00: And I feel like that moment, that investment triggered and started this new path of exploring, like combining the feminine and the masculine.
25:19
SPEAKER_00: Like, and I'm sure that we'll be able to dive into this in a different episode.
25:23
SPEAKER_00: But like, yeah, like you don't have to grow a business in the way that you think that you do.
25:27
SPEAKER_00: And like, I feel like we're just really learning to like walk the walk now and to check ourselves and our limiting beliefs and like having support and knowing that like there is no right way to do this.
25:40
SPEAKER_00: And yeah, like I'm just super excited to empower and to motivate people through like business coaching and like subconscious reprogramming of just like it doesn't have to be as serious and cookie-cutter and as overwhelming as everybody makes it.
26:00
SPEAKER_02: And it doesn't making more money doesn't have to look like hustling harder, you know, like that's step one.
26:06
SPEAKER_02: Your hours working more hours does not equal more money.
26:09
SPEAKER_02: And that like is was such a mind blow for me.
26:13
SPEAKER_02: And um in Mariah and I are very interested in we need white space in our schedule, you know, we need room for creativity, we need time for self-care.
26:23
SPEAKER_02: You know, for me this past year, learning how to prioritize myself and my own needs and connect with my body.
26:30
SPEAKER_02: Um, I have gotten hooked up with breath work, has been transformational for me this past year.
26:35
SPEAKER_02: And I know Mariah has really like dove deep into meditation daily, multiple times a day.
26:40
SPEAKER_02: And Mariah and I are, you know, like tapping into movement and how important, you know, my whole life I've spent like, oh, exercise is this painful, horrible thing I have to do to punish myself.
26:50
SPEAKER_02: And now I've realized, no, when I move, my brain works better and I feel better and I'm calmer and it's easier to be grounded.
26:57
SPEAKER_02: And so I just feel like, you know, we we have learned some kind of out-of-the-box tool.
27:04
SPEAKER_02: Honestly, the more untraditional, non-traditional, out-of-the-box tools have been the biggest game changers for me as a business owner.
27:11
SPEAKER_02: Um, you know, learning how to do somatics, you know, I'd love to dive into that more on this and how important our relationships with our body are, and um, you know, women especially, like, I really think that kind of stuff and like subconscious patterns and reprogramming.
27:30
SPEAKER_02: And um, you know, Mariah and I are both diving deep into like hypnotherapy right now and like really getting clear on, you know, our subconscious really drives us, like what is it, 80% of the time?
27:41
SPEAKER_02: It's really making all the decisions in the background, you know, and we for the most part are really unaware of what's going on.
27:48
SPEAKER_02: And and I have found that running my own business is this daily mirror and personal development journey that's forced me to kind of take a look at all of my issues around abundance and scarcity and you know, lack and possibility and worthiness and my value, and you know, like it's constant every day.
28:08
SPEAKER_02: And so what I have found is that yes, I've spent a ton of money on courses and coaching, but they were never really able to get me to this next level, like um, this kind of deeper work is this more like foundational, what's going on behind the scenes, and honestly, connecting with Mariah and people and friends and getting in community and realizing, oh, I'm not the only one who's frustrated that I keep signing up for all these courses and I still don't keep spinning my wheels, you know.
28:37
SPEAKER_02: And so, yeah, that that has been huge for me.
28:40
SPEAKER_02: And and we both feel like it's just not the word, we're not getting the word out enough around, hey, you know, like if you're feeling overwhelmed, stop hustling.
28:50
SPEAKER_02: Like, let's start there and like really get connected with what is the life you want to live and how do you want to feel on a daily day, the daily basis, and then what do you need to do?
29:00
SPEAKER_02: What practices do you need to cultivate more self-respect, like on a day-to-day basis?
29:04
SPEAKER_02: So that that is like getting me lit up.
29:08
SPEAKER_02: I feel like I could talk all day about that, but I know that we only have so much time.
29:11
SPEAKER_02: So thanks, Mariah.
29:13
SPEAKER_02: I really was intrigued by this, like the curiously guided idea.
29:17
SPEAKER_02: I think is interesting because I've always been the type of person like you that every couple years I kind of get in a rut and I get tired of something and I want to switch it up.
29:27
SPEAKER_02: And I've actually had this conversation with other business owner friends.
29:31
SPEAKER_02: Are you ever criticized in your life for like not being able to stick with something?
29:35
SPEAKER_02: Because I think up until this point, I've always thought about it as kind of a character flaw, like, oh, why can't I?
29:42
SPEAKER_02: I always am getting, I'm not satisfied and I want more.
29:45
SPEAKER_02: And really, now that I think it's more of a positive thing.
29:48
SPEAKER_02: It's I have one of my core desires, and you know, one of my goals in life is growth.
29:54
SPEAKER_02: I really like growing and improving, and like maybe it's not a bad thing to always be having curiosity guide the way.
30:00
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
30:01
SPEAKER_02: Have you had any of that feedback from like people in your life?
30:03
SPEAKER_00: It's like, oh, you're just never satisfied, or like that's super, yeah, that's super interesting.
30:09
SPEAKER_00: If I'm being 100% honest, no, really, every yeah, it's I don't, and I don't really know why, to be honest.
30:19
SPEAKER_00: Like it maybe I would just maybe I was just never open to hearing other people's opinions.
30:24
SPEAKER_00: Like growing up, I was also very like closed off, very independent, very my way or the highway.
30:32
SPEAKER_00: Did I give my friends, family, loved ones the space to give me their opinion?
30:37
SPEAKER_00: No.
30:38
SPEAKER_00: And I mean, like, like maybe maybe that's why I was so strong-headed, yeah, in terms of like, I know that I can figure it out.
30:50
SPEAKER_00: Um, yeah, and I guess I've also like I gotta give my mom so much credit for this.
30:56
SPEAKER_00: She always built me up because like her childhood, her growing up, she gotta, she went through some shitty shit.
31:03
SPEAKER_00: And like her being a foster child and like all of the trauma that she experienced, she made a promise to not raise her children in that type of environment.
31:13
SPEAKER_00: And like my childhood was nowhere near perfect, but my mom definitely did what she could with, you know, as best as she could.
31:20
SPEAKER_00: And I just remember her telling me, even when I was a teenager, like, Mariah, whatever you touch turns to gold.
31:28
SPEAKER_00: Like whatever you do, you will be successful.
31:32
SPEAKER_00: And I was like, you know, as a teenager where you're thinking that everything you're doing is right, I literally was like, of course, like, of course, whatever I touch turns to gold.
31:43
SPEAKER_00: But like having that as a foundation from, you know, one part of my family, I think just like I for some reason gravitated towards that, held on to that.
31:57
SPEAKER_00: And like I still have limiting beliefs.
31:59
SPEAKER_00: Don't don't let me fake you out.
32:00
SPEAKER_00: Like having having that that guard up and keeping keeping people out is a huge thing that I've had to work through.
32:08
SPEAKER_00: But yeah, people, man, like this underlying trust that like I knew that I was being guided, even though like I went through periods of like not believing in a higher power, not believing in God, like, but for some reason I knew that like I chose this.
32:27
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I don't know.
32:28
SPEAKER_00: So, like, that's a really good question.
32:29
SPEAKER_00: And I don't think I've ever reflected on it, but like, well, it's maybe I just didn't listen to people.
32:34
SPEAKER_02: I love your take on it.
32:36
SPEAKER_02: I love your confidence around everything.
32:39
SPEAKER_02: And I do want to like stop and say, like, when we say God on this podcast, let's talk about what we mean.
32:44
SPEAKER_02: So Mariah and I really use that term loosely, and it it can be triggering, I know.
32:49
SPEAKER_02: So, like, feel free to plug in whatever word feels good for you there.
32:52
SPEAKER_02: It could be intuition, it could be creativity, it could be your inner knowing or your inner curiosity.
32:59
SPEAKER_02: Um, but you know, Mariah and I just like there's no doubt, even we were like joking before we got on this call that like there is no doubt there is something bigger, you know, there's something that we're connected to.
33:12
SPEAKER_02: There is wisdom that we all have within side of us that unfortunately a lot of the program we programming we get is like you can't trust yourself.
33:20
SPEAKER_02: And so, really, this is all a journey in like learning how to reconnect back to source, you know, like whatever word you need to throw in there, but just talking about the bigger mystery, and it's hard to put words on that, but that's kind of what we're trying to get at is like there is definitely something deeper going on that you can tap into, and that is what we are exploring.
33:40
SPEAKER_00: Um, yeah, and I think, yeah, yeah, no, no, I I'm glad that you pointed that out because it's like, I don't know, I say God, but it's like I've I only started getting comfortable with that.
33:51
SPEAKER_00: I shit you not like two months ago.
33:54
SPEAKER_00: So, but like before it was the universe, it was source, creator, like whatever, whatever your faith is, even if you don't, I don't know, even if you don't believe in it, that's fine.
34:04
SPEAKER_00: Respect where you're at in your journey and whatever path you're here to walk.
34:07
SPEAKER_00: Because I think that that's what's so fucking awesome about this world is that everybody comes into it with these different perspectives, different perceptions, and we all learn from each other because like my talents are not your talents, your talents are not my talents.
34:25
SPEAKER_00: And like I really think that like the age of like the guru, the teacher, the person on the pedestal, I think that it's starting to crumble because it's really about going deeper within yourself.
34:38
SPEAKER_00: And like I would say that like the deeper I have sat with my shit, the deeper I've gone with myself, the the more freedom I've gotten in my business, in my relationships, in my personal life.
34:54
SPEAKER_00: And like, don't let it play you.
34:57
SPEAKER_00: Like the work can be exhausting and the work can be, I don't want to say hard, I want to say tough because hard to me sounds like you can't get through it.
35:10
SPEAKER_01: Right.
35:11
SPEAKER_00: Tough is kind of like, okay, we just need to maybe exert a little bit more effort.
35:16
SPEAKER_00: But like it's all so worth it.
35:19
SPEAKER_00: And I don't think that I would have the courage and the confidence to be having this conversation with you right now if I didn't allow myself to dive deeper into who I am and like what my desires are.
35:35
SPEAKER_00: Also, like calling myself out has been like the biggest thing.
35:39
SPEAKER_00: Like, if I'm seeing myself do some patterns, I'm noticing some limiting beliefs, calling myself out has been huge.
35:46
SPEAKER_00: Also, like opening up to receiving, like in business, in my personal relationships with my family, with God's source creator, with like intuitive hits with my body.
36:01
SPEAKER_00: Like, I'm just a firm believer that like the deeper you get to know yourself, the more expansive you and your relationship with yourself and your business.
36:12
SPEAKER_00: Your business is just, yeah, like your business is literally a mirror to the relationship that you have with yourself.
36:20
SPEAKER_00: And I think that that's why us as business owners, we tend to grow at a rapid rate.
36:27
SPEAKER_00: And I think that's because as humans, we grow through relationships.
36:33
SPEAKER_00: So your business is just a lot more mirrors.
36:37
SPEAKER_00: You have a relationship with your business, with your finances, with your clients, with your with your business friends, and like all of this is hitting us on all of these different mirrors.
36:47
SPEAKER_00: And I just think that like, and I think that people say it, I want to say all the time, maybe they don't, but I have heard it that like the biggest personal growth project I've ever taken on is being a business owner.
36:58
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no doubt.
37:01
SPEAKER_02: That is 100% true.
37:03
SPEAKER_02: It's uh it's a wild ride.
37:06
SPEAKER_02: You know, as I I like coach, I'm sometimes coaching a lot of new entrepreneurs, and I would be straight up, like I'll just say, like, hey, this is not for the faint of heart.
37:15
SPEAKER_02: It's not everyday like awesome.
37:18
SPEAKER_02: And it's really easy to get FOMO if you're on Instagram all the time.
37:21
SPEAKER_02: And part of this, you Mariah and I talk a lot about like curating what you're taking in and really being aware of what you're surrounding yourself with, and you know, is it a lot of comparison?
37:32
SPEAKER_02: Because that's very easy to do in this world.
37:34
SPEAKER_02: Um, Mariah hit on this idea of like really connecting with desire and want, and that's something that her and I have both been talking a lot about lately because we've even noticed, like, at this level in business, we got to a point where it felt like all of our goals were other people's goals.
37:50
SPEAKER_02: Like you'll hear in the business world, 10k months, 10k months, and that's what everyone's shooting for.
37:55
SPEAKER_02: And then you start to hit it and you realize, oh wait, like this, this is the goal, you know?
38:01
SPEAKER_02: And and you realize I'm disconnected from my own wants and desires.
38:06
SPEAKER_02: I've I've even joined this world thinking this is what I wanted, but I just grabbed other people's wants, and I even built a business based on what other people wanted.
38:15
SPEAKER_02: So, like really taking time to connect with your desire and your want and trusting that you have those for a reason.
38:23
SPEAKER_02: You know, that's really gets curiosity.
38:26
SPEAKER_02: You know, that's like some guidance.
38:27
SPEAKER_02: Uh no matter what it is, even how superficial seeming, like it's all there for a reason and it's all okay.
38:33
SPEAKER_02: And like I don't feel like we give ourselves a lot of space to really want freely and to dream.
38:38
SPEAKER_02: It's very much like that's what kids do.
38:41
SPEAKER_02: I liked when you talked earlier about like this is full circle, but a lot of this is like childlike in beginner's mind and just like going into things open and curious and not with a bunch of preconceptions.
38:53
SPEAKER_02: So I do see that it's like it's got this really like the fool in the tarot, or like this really innocent nature about it, which I love.
39:02
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, I agree.
39:04
SPEAKER_00: I like I like the analogy of the fool in the tarot deck.
39:08
SPEAKER_00: Um, what I was gonna say.
39:11
SPEAKER_00: Shit.
39:11
SPEAKER_00: Here we are.
39:12
SPEAKER_00: Mariah blanks out on exactly what she was gonna say.
39:16
SPEAKER_00: There was a great point that I had.
39:18
SPEAKER_00: I'm not really sure at this very big moment in time, but yeah, I'm just I'm really excited.
39:25
SPEAKER_00: Oh, this is what it was.
39:27
SPEAKER_00: Hello, uh, heads up to the listeners.
39:29
SPEAKER_00: I do that literally all the time.
39:31
SPEAKER_00: So, like, bear with me if I lose something, but also giving us like, yeah, diving into desires, but giving ourselves the permission to allow them to change.
39:45
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
39:45
SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
39:46
SPEAKER_00: Allow your desires to evolve as you evolve.
39:50
SPEAKER_00: I literally have that written on a post-it note and I stare at it because there's so many boxes.
39:57
SPEAKER_00: There's so many boxes that we put ourselves in because as humans, we really don't have control over very much.
40:06
SPEAKER_00: So I think that we put ourselves in boxes to create safety so that we allow ourselves to move forward.
40:14
SPEAKER_00: And I think that that's fine, that that's perfectly normal.
40:17
SPEAKER_00: Everybody does it.
40:18
SPEAKER_00: I do it all the time.
40:19
SPEAKER_00: That's what like labels are.
40:20
SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
40:21
SPEAKER_00: Like, I don't know, today I'm a business strategist, tomorrow I'm, I don't know, a chef.
40:26
SPEAKER_00: Like it's just, yeah.
40:28
SPEAKER_00: So just allowing your desires for your life and your business to evolve as you deepen the relationship that you have with yourself.
40:38
SPEAKER_00: Give yourself permission to like rip apart the box.
40:41
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
40:41
SPEAKER_00: Do I want to be in this box?
40:42
SPEAKER_00: Do I not want to be in this box?
40:44
SPEAKER_00: Like, is this serving me?
40:46
SPEAKER_00: Is this limiting me?
40:47
SPEAKER_00: And that's kind of what I mean when I'm like, I have to call myself out.
40:52
SPEAKER_00: And like, that's why I think having a community, having friends, being in conversation is so helpful because we are so used to our perspectives and our perception that it's it's so nourishing when you're in a safe space that like people can start to reflect things back to you because we often don't see the other perceptions and the other perspectives about it.
41:15
SPEAKER_00: So, yeah, just like permission to change your fucking mind.
41:19
SPEAKER_00: I change my mind all the time.
41:21
SPEAKER_00: I wanted fish tacos for lunch.
41:23
SPEAKER_00: I don't think I'm in the mood for those anymore.
41:25
SPEAKER_02: I love it.
41:26
SPEAKER_02: I needed that, you know.
41:27
SPEAKER_02: It's funny, like a little bit of growth has even happened for me today on this call of like you're right, all of this has happened for a reason.
41:35
SPEAKER_02: And you and I are both so grateful for all of the learning that we've done and like the road that we've taken and all of the lessons that we've learned because it's helped get us here.
41:44
SPEAKER_02: And so, like, it's okay that the one has changed, and it's okay that like I first built a business that I hated, like it all had to happen that way, and allowing desire to change.
41:57
SPEAKER_02: I definitely go into like I'll get what I thought I wanted, and then it's like, oh shit, this isn't it.
42:02
SPEAKER_02: And then I go down this like shame spiral, right?
42:06
SPEAKER_02: Like, you just wasted all your time building this, and then it's like, no, no, no, no.
42:10
SPEAKER_02: This is just the next level in the video game, like this is how it has to happen, you know, and so that is such a lovely.
42:15
SPEAKER_02: You've got a lot of quotables in this episode, but that's a really good one.
42:19
SPEAKER_00: Oh, thank you so much.
42:20
SPEAKER_00: And who knew that it took a space of blank thought in order to pull that one out from wherever it went?
42:27
SPEAKER_00: Because yeah, that just that happens.
42:30
SPEAKER_00: And give yourself the the love to uh, I don't know, blank out sometimes, fumble your words a little bit.
42:37
SPEAKER_00: I'm sure that we'll be doing this a lot because, like, we're imperfectly perfect humans, and that's it.
42:44
SPEAKER_00: Sometimes I fuck some shit up.
42:45
SPEAKER_02: That's cool.
42:46
SPEAKER_02: That's how that's how channeling happens and inspiration.
42:50
SPEAKER_02: You just gotta like let it come as it comes.
42:52
SPEAKER_02: Um, and this is a safe space for that.
42:54
SPEAKER_02: So I think you know, Mariah and I have never closed out a podcast before, so this is an experiment for us.
43:00
SPEAKER_02: But what do you think about like wrapping up by talking about, you know, like what is the one thing that you are most excited for when we talk about the future of this podcast?
43:08
SPEAKER_02: What gets you?
43:09
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, for sure.
43:10
SPEAKER_00: I think that that's a really great question.
43:13
SPEAKER_00: I'm excited for a lot, to be honest, like just uh a space for us to connect with other humans, a space for us to share some tools, some tips, some tricks, a space for us to share perspectives, what we're learning to help people feel that like they're not alone in this journey.
43:36
SPEAKER_00: And like, you know, I might look like I have it all together on Instagram, but like come over to the podcast and I'll let you know that like I'm having a day.
43:43
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
43:44
SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
43:44
SPEAKER_00: Just like that space to be creative, to be curious, to be guided.
43:53
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
43:53
SPEAKER_00: Um, but yeah, like I'm excited to even kind of start filtering in along with the episodes.
44:00
SPEAKER_00: Like maybe some meditations, maybe some affirmations.
44:03
SPEAKER_00: Like, I would love to really record and create some really awesome tools for our listeners, just like things that really resonate with me in that moment and like that have really helped me.
44:16
SPEAKER_00: And I'm just really excited to share all of it in like a really grounded way.
44:22
SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
44:23
SPEAKER_00: Like, we we talk about spirituality, we talk about God, creator, whatever it is, but like I'm a practical human being.
44:32
SPEAKER_00: Like, don't get me wrong, super intuitive.
44:34
SPEAKER_00: I channel, I pull some cards, I have conversations with my higher self and meditate.
44:39
SPEAKER_00: I don't even know where I go in meditation, usually different planets, but like being able to talk about that stuff in like a grounded way, I'm really excited for that.
44:51
SPEAKER_00: And like just to hear people's feedback and like, yeah, just explore the foundations of what it means to grow a business, what it means to be a human in this world right now.
45:02
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's that's what I'm excited for.
45:05
SPEAKER_00: What about you?
45:05
SPEAKER_02: What excites you the most?
45:07
SPEAKER_02: I love that.
45:08
SPEAKER_02: To piggyback off what you're saying, I think one of the things that drew Mariah and I to each other, and one of the things that makes us unique is we are both very, you know, we're like rust belt people.
45:19
SPEAKER_02: We're very like down to earth, um, no bullshit, straightforward.
45:23
SPEAKER_02: And then also we have these very, we're both smart and we really are fact finders.
45:28
SPEAKER_02: We love to research and get all the pieces.
45:31
SPEAKER_02: And and so as Mariah and I have been exploring these like weirder type strategies, um, we're able to do it from a really grounded place.
45:41
SPEAKER_02: You know, I think that we have a bit of lightheartedness and humor that we can bring into some of these more woo topics that can get a little ethereal and hard to grasp.
45:52
SPEAKER_02: Um, we we don't really take anything too seriously, we're happy to laugh at things.
45:56
SPEAKER_02: Um, I'm really excited about applying our curious, inquisitive minds to some of these stranger topics that people may not be so familiar with.
46:06
SPEAKER_02: Like for me, for example, I don't know anything about crystals.
46:10
SPEAKER_02: I know that a lot of people get a lot of benefit out of crystals.
46:13
SPEAKER_02: I don't know anything about them.
46:14
SPEAKER_02: I'd love to learn more.
46:16
SPEAKER_02: I'd love to bring on an expert and talk about it from a really like down-to-earth place, you know.
46:20
SPEAKER_02: Up until last year, I thought tarot was evil.
46:23
SPEAKER_02: I thought if I touched it, I was gonna get like possessed by the devil.
46:26
SPEAKER_02: So, like, just really opening the door to a lot of these tools that we can use to connect with ourselves and really demystifying them, almost like what you did with SEO, doing that with some of the strategies.
46:40
SPEAKER_02: And for this, Mariah and I are just learning out loud.
46:43
SPEAKER_02: Like, we are just really experimenting with this stuff in our own lives, and this is a place for us to document, you know, what we're learning, how we're growing.
46:52
SPEAKER_02: Um, we've both found it's pretty hard to like measure growth, this kind of growth.
46:57
SPEAKER_02: It looks a lot different than like dollars in a bank account.
47:00
SPEAKER_02: And so I really again just would like this to be this documentation that we can look back on a year from now, three years, and see growth and see what's happened and really refine our ideas and apply our scientific.
47:15
SPEAKER_02: Um I feel like sometimes we're like these little wizards, like down in the basement doing science experiments, but a lot of the world.
47:22
SPEAKER_02: It's just so different.
47:24
SPEAKER_02: Like the you with the way you and I think about things, it's so different.
47:26
SPEAKER_02: So I'm just so excited for the conversations.
47:29
SPEAKER_02: I think they're gonna be a little like just very unique.
47:33
SPEAKER_02: Our approach to things is very different than probably what you've heard before.
47:36
SPEAKER_02: And I'm just really excited to like get some new friends in here and kind of build out some research resources and kind of learn and grow together.
47:44
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
47:45
SPEAKER_00: And I think just also explaining all of that stuff and like how it affects our business, yeah.
47:52
SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
47:53
SPEAKER_00: Like, I think that that connection of like, okay, we learn about crystals, we learn about meditation, but like, and like that helps us deepen the relationship that we have with ourselves, but like, how is that then being intersected with running a business, growing a business, showing up?
48:11
SPEAKER_00: And like, I know, I know you said that like, you know, some of this growth doesn't translate to a bank account.
48:19
SPEAKER_00: I think that it could.
48:20
SPEAKER_00: You're right.
48:21
SPEAKER_00: I think that we're gonna listen to some of this.
48:23
SPEAKER_00: And I and I'm like, you know what?
48:25
SPEAKER_00: If I'm expanding my inner world, you know damn well my outer world is about to expand.
48:32
SPEAKER_00: So I'm interested to see the proof in the pudding of just like, you know what?
48:38
SPEAKER_00: When you take the time to learn about yourself, to learn about your business, to learn about how you show up in the world, it like you get the benefits in every single area.
48:52
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
48:52
SPEAKER_00: So yeah, I'm just I'm really excited for all of that.
48:55
SPEAKER_00: What a great question.
48:57
SPEAKER_02: And you're right, that's been the truth of the more I've expanded, my bank account has expanded.
49:02
SPEAKER_02: So maybe that was a really bad example, but just a place to document personal growth.
49:10
SPEAKER_02: Because I do think Mariah's right, like our capacity to receive is directly related with the money that we see in our bank accounts, and that's really that's kind of the next level conversations.
49:20
SPEAKER_02: I even wrote down at the beginning, like, I want to have an episode like how to receive, or like how, because that has been something you and I both have really struggled.
49:29
SPEAKER_02: We're the types of people that have always been, we've got it under control, we can do it ourselves.
49:33
SPEAKER_02: I mean, listen to our origin stories.
49:35
SPEAKER_02: It's like rebel against this system.
49:37
SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna teach myself how to do it.
49:39
SPEAKER_02: I we're really independent, and so that is very, very interesting for us.
49:45
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, I think so.
49:47
SPEAKER_00: And it's funny because what was it, last December is when I started, I hired my first intuitive coach to like help me expand my intuition, help me learn how to channel, things like that.
49:59
SPEAKER_00: And I found her because I literally went to Apple Podcasts and I typed in how to surrender because that December 2020 version of me had no idea how to what does surrender mean?
50:13
SPEAKER_00: How do I surrender?
50:14
SPEAKER_00: And it's very funny because I'm a Google girl.
50:17
SPEAKER_00: I Google things, so it's also very interesting that I went to Apple Podcasts.
50:21
SPEAKER_00: I found a podcast episode that she had about how to surrender, and I ended up working with her, and she's like one of my favorite humans.
50:28
SPEAKER_00: Oh, like her too.
50:29
SPEAKER_00: She's incredible.
50:34
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like it's just a prime example of like being curiously guided.
50:38
SPEAKER_00: You never know where this shit is gonna end up, and that's the beautiful part of the journey.
50:46
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
50:49
SPEAKER_02: Beautiful.
50:50
SPEAKER_02: Love it.
50:52
SPEAKER_02: So now I mean, like, I don't even know how we wrap this up.
50:55
SPEAKER_02: What are we doing?
50:56
SPEAKER_02: I was gonna say at the end of the podcast.
50:58
SPEAKER_02: A really natural stopping point.
51:00
SPEAKER_02: This has been such a joy.
51:02
SPEAKER_02: We were nervous to get started, but I think we're finishing up like on a really uh high point.
51:07
SPEAKER_02: I'm feeling so excited and just optimistic.
51:10
SPEAKER_02: I cannot wait to connect with everybody that this is gonna draw in.
51:14
SPEAKER_02: And um yeah, with that, I'm out.
51:16
SPEAKER_02: You have any parting words with Mariah?
51:19
SPEAKER_00: Um, no, I mean, like just a reminder for everybody listening that like you have the power to create whatever the fuck you want.
51:28
SPEAKER_00: Follow the nudge, ask the questions, stay and let curiosity guide the way, baby.
51:34
SPEAKER_00: Like it's just that's it.
51:36
SPEAKER_00: I'm excited to start creating more episodes.
51:39
SPEAKER_00: I think that we're gonna start an Instagram.
51:42
SPEAKER_00: Maybe by the time that this goes live, we'll already have one.
51:46
SPEAKER_00: Maybe we'll have show notes.
51:48
SPEAKER_00: I don't really know what call to action to give y'all because like we're recording this on a whim.
51:53
SPEAKER_00: But um, yeah, if there's show notes, you should check those out.
51:56
SPEAKER_00: If there's not, then you should definitely reach out to us personally on Instagram.
52:01
SPEAKER_00: And yeah, I mean, I should probably give my handle since I just said that.
52:05
SPEAKER_00: So mine's Mariah Magazine C O.
52:09
SPEAKER_00: Shay, what's yours?
52:10
SPEAKER_00: I'm at Shay Hei Shay.
52:13
SPEAKER_00: She Hei Shay.
52:15
SPEAKER_00: Yes, yes, that's correct.
52:17
SPEAKER_00: So I still don't know how to end that.
52:20
SPEAKER_00: Okay, uh, I'm just gonna say bye.
52:22
SPEAKER_00: So love you guys so much, and we will see you in the next episode.
52:26
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, stay curious, friends.
52:27
SPEAKER_02: We'll talk to you soon.