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What's Happening at the Courthouse: A woman's plea for help · "What's happening at the Courthouse?" with Rameez Khan

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  Speaker 1: For some prison is where it ends. For all court
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  Speaker 1: gives where it begins.
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  Speaker 2: Visit no TV show. This is the real world and
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  Speaker 2: this is what's happening at the courthouse on KFM Mornings
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  Speaker 2: with Ramise.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, so added the one boog courts yesterday with Remiz
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  Speaker 3: is hanging about people coming in, people going out, and.
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  Speaker 4: Ask them all one simple question, and it's.
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  Speaker 1: This, what are you doing at the court uesterday?
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  Speaker 4: My brother was arrested for drug position?
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  Speaker 1: Was that a proven fact?
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  Speaker 5: You can't actually get anything from a police station. They'll
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  Speaker 5: give you limited information.
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  Speaker 6: It's all a sensitive case in terms of investigation and
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  Speaker 6: all of those kind of things, which I can understand
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  Speaker 6: from their side. You're also trying to ascertain what's happening
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  Speaker 6: with my brother.
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  Speaker 1: Correct.
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  Speaker 5: I can tell you what the reason is, which is
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  Speaker 5: drug position. They don't give you quantity, they don't give
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  Speaker 5: you any information. So, yeah, a policeman came around to
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  Speaker 5: a LOBS which is with my dad and told us
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  Speaker 5: that he was arrested.
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  Speaker 1: And have you experienced this before with him?
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  Speaker 3: No?
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  Speaker 6: Has he been involved with a little bit of trouble?
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  Speaker 5: No, not really that I know of, But yeah, I
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  Speaker 5: think he's in a very bad head space, a lot
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  Speaker 5: of history of trauma.
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  Speaker 1: My mom passed recently.
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  Speaker 5: Obviously, we don't understand the impact and we don't understand
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  Speaker 5: the release over there.
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  Speaker 1: How old is he for.
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  Speaker 4: Four?
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  Speaker 6: He's a grown man and he's making bad decisions.
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  Speaker 5: Correct, you know, and I'm not sure that he was
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  Speaker 5: equipped enough to actually make a correct decision.
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  Speaker 1: To understand the consequences of spot on. Correct. Does he work?
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  Speaker 5: No, she hasn't been working for a couple of day
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  Speaker 5: years now.
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  Speaker 6: Even that's also bringing him down for example.
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  Speaker 5: Correct, that's part of the trauma that he's been going
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  Speaker 5: through and.
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  Speaker 6: Then also now living with his father at fifty four.
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  Speaker 6: If I was in I would feel the same way.
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  Speaker 5: No, agreed, Definitely a bad it's place to be in.
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  Speaker 5: There's lots of consequences and it's not excuses until I
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  Speaker 5: engage with him properly and see where we go from here,
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  Speaker 5: I don't know.
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  Speaker 6: I hope that your brother gets out and he moves
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  Speaker 6: the path it's better or for him.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you.
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  Speaker 5: I appreciate that. Good wishes, and we hope and pray
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  Speaker 5: for that to happen. And stay blessed, Yeah, for sure,
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  Speaker 5: stay blessed.
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  Speaker 6: Chess him what are you doing at the courthouse today?
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  Speaker 2: I'm coming here to protection order and jud say you
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  Speaker 2: must bring you another lawyer because this lawyer is not
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  Speaker 2: to listen to me. And that lawyer left me say
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  Speaker 2: I'm not doing your case anymore.
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  Speaker 1: Did you pay the lawyer?
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  Speaker 2: No, that's illegally And that lawyer also like to go
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  Speaker 2: for my husband's side. And my husband also go police
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  Speaker 2: station and I don't know what he's talking with the
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  Speaker 2: police station with.
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  Speaker 1: Is he from South Africa?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, he's from here and I'm from Pakistan.
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  Speaker 1: Why are you looking for a protection order?
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  Speaker 2: Because twelve years marri with him and nine years I'm
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  Speaker 2: in here this country and he's giving the leftover food
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  Speaker 2: and he chased the girls away and he say you
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  Speaker 2: can clean the house and you must look after the children,
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  Speaker 2: and you must do everything. I save my house in Pakistan,
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  Speaker 2: I sell my car. He take all my money. He's
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  Speaker 2: building a house here off of his using my money.
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  Speaker 2: Now house he's done, and he say now the new
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  Speaker 2: wife must come here for new house. All the wife
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  Speaker 2: must go. Now.
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  Speaker 1: How did you meet him?
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  Speaker 2: The Muslim single marriage app He married already three wives
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  Speaker 2: and he left the three wife he had the children,
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  Speaker 2: he take the children always from other noise doing same
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  Speaker 2: thing for me, and he say, I'm taking that small
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  Speaker 2: child from you and you must go back for your
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  Speaker 2: country or you must move this house and you must container.
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  Speaker 2: You can't stay here for my house because that's my
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  Speaker 2: house and that's my country. You must leave. Now. I
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  Speaker 2: talk to the judge and judge also say judge also
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  Speaker 2: on inside, and judge also not listening properly. Jud say,
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  Speaker 2: I can't do anything because these lawyer is leave me.
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  Speaker 1: She said no, I can't.
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  Speaker 2: You must walk, you must go if you're fit. So
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  Speaker 2: that's not my problem. This is your problem. He trying
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  Speaker 2: to throw me out for that house.
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  Speaker 1: Do you have kids with him?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I have six year old child and he adopped
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  Speaker 2: my daughter from Pakistan. Now he said, no, I didn't adopt.
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  Speaker 2: I have all the papers, everything, all the proofs. Is
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  Speaker 2: nobody listen to me and he's laugh at me. Is
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  Speaker 2: I'm crying front of judge and you tell the judge
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  Speaker 2: she's just making joke. Here she go out and she
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  Speaker 2: laugh again. You don't understand these Pakistani drama people. Even
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  Speaker 2: the social worker come in our house and they also
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  Speaker 2: shout at me and they say you must move for
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  Speaker 2: the this house. You can't stay here for this house
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  Speaker 2: because that's his house, not your house. And they say,
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  Speaker 2: if you're not moving, we bring the police and we
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  Speaker 2: take your children away from you, and then you leave
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  Speaker 2: this house.
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  Speaker 1: Why did you sell your house in Pakistan?
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  Speaker 2: Because he promised me, I build house here. Because I
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  Speaker 2: don't have enough money, He built a house. He showed
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  Speaker 2: me the BMW car. They say that is yours. I
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  Speaker 2: come here, I just see that coy is standing there
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  Speaker 2: like two three days. Then that coy is gone. Now
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  Speaker 2: I buy me the car six months ago. Drive I
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  Speaker 2: think one month, and then he take over that again.
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  Speaker 2: He said, no, that's my call. I divorce you. And
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  Speaker 2: he involved too many ladies. This is South Africa. I
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  Speaker 2: can have twenty girlfriend. Why do you worry about that? Now?
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  Speaker 2: I go last month Indonesia with a girlfriend and anything
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  Speaker 2: I speak, he says, she's lying, she's lying, she's lying.
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  Speaker 2: She still lous touff, she's still the spoon.
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  Speaker 1: Why I steal the spoon?
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  Speaker 6: Do you have proof that you sold your house in
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  Speaker 6: Pakistan for him?
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  Speaker 7: Yes?
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  Speaker 1: He did tell the social worker.
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  Speaker 2: If she's moving out from my house, so then I
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  Speaker 2: can give her that money otherwise I'm not giving everybody
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  Speaker 2: trying to throw me at the back of When the
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  Speaker 2: house he said new house, new wife, then I'm thinking
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  Speaker 2: maybe he's joking, but he's serious. He's throwing my stuff
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  Speaker 2: out and I call the police. He's not give me food.
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  Speaker 2: Even my lawyers say you must move. I don't want
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  Speaker 2: to move because he's my rights here.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a legal wife.
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  Speaker 2: He brings me from Pakistan and now he's throwing me out.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know anything and I asshold children going to school.
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  Speaker 1: I'm so sorry that you're going through this.
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  Speaker 4: Man.
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  Speaker 2: I just need a justice. I'm a lone here for
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  Speaker 2: this country is no family, no friend, no money, no house,
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  Speaker 2: and he's throwing me out.
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  Speaker 6: I hope that you get justice, and I hope that
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  Speaker 6: the court is going to see that you need their help.
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  Speaker 2: I did say message for I'm oppose, and I did
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  Speaker 2: send message everyway, but no one listening, no one.
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  Speaker 6: REPLI like, thank you very much for your time, man,
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  Speaker 6: thank you bye.
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  Speaker 4: Sure, that's devastating. That story very much heartbreaking to listen.
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  Speaker 3: And you know what, it seems like that is her
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  Speaker 3: last this is her last loveline.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, and this seems like this man his playbook is
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  Speaker 7: quite consistent.
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  Speaker 1: You know, out with the old, in with the new,
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  Speaker 1: out of the old, in with the new.
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  Speaker 7: You know, that's how he operates, and then he gets
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  Speaker 7: rid of whoever he has at the time.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's so interesting even when women pick up
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  Speaker 4: that pattern.
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  Speaker 1: They believe that I'm.
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  Speaker 4: Different, I'm the exception to the rule. You'll never do
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  Speaker 4: that to me, and it's so heartbreaking when they do.
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  Speaker 1: And it goes back to.
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  Speaker 7: The point that you've shared over the years, Darren, where
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  Speaker 7: you need to have your own things. Yeah, selling that
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  Speaker 7: house and trusting that he'll look after you is, unfortunately, now,
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  Speaker 7: you know, not a solid plan.
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  Speaker 3: I always said, you've got to have a runaway fine
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  Speaker 3: fun that that shoe box, that private bank account, you
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  Speaker 3: gotta have that, you know what, you just never you
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  Speaker 3: just never know, got to.
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  Speaker 4: Take care of yourself in this world.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, look, so social workers are helping, sports don't
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  Speaker 3: seem to help. Let's hope that she does get the
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  Speaker 3: help that she needs. Yes, we'll take your comments on
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  Speaker 3: over two nine four five zero nine four zero sure
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  Speaker 3: re means that was hectic. Zara Larson Midnight sun Here
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  Speaker 3: on KF Mornings at ten to eight it's Zara Larson
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  Speaker 3: Worth Midnight sun here on KF Mornings. All Right, we got,
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  Speaker 3: as I thought, we'd got a lot of messages flying
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  Speaker 3: through you, um, people saying can we do a backup buddy?
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  Speaker 3: Can we get to this lady a lawyer. We can
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  Speaker 3: do all of those things, but it seems like.
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  Speaker 7: The system is against her at this point.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I mean the fact that she's calling on the president.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, there's there's no higher than that. So she's
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  Speaker 3: been through every system so far.
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  Speaker 4: Wow. Okay, here's some of your messages.
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  Speaker 2: Man.
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  Speaker 1: I feel for that Pakistani woman. She needs the proper
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  Speaker 1: lawyer to take her case.
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  Speaker 6: Kick guys off as she's adrish, you can't do that
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  Speaker 6: to women.
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  Speaker 1: You can't treat woman.
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  Speaker 2: Somebody needs to help her because this is absolutely shocking.
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  Speaker 4: She's vulnerable, she's alone. She really needs help.
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  Speaker 1: Tear them out. It is broken in a million pieces
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  Speaker 1: for that lady.
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  Speaker 3: Sure.
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  Speaker 5: How can human beings treat other humans like that, especially foreigners.
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  Speaker 1: That's a human being, that's a mother, that's a woman.
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  Speaker 1: I am souper.
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  Speaker 6: Oh my word, that is just that is that is
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  Speaker 6: just so so heartbreaking.
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  Speaker 4: God please step in.
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  Speaker 1: For that lady. It's not just that that it's that
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  Speaker 1: man's pattern.
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  Speaker 2: It's allowed for that man to have that pattern and
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  Speaker 2: to do.
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  Speaker 3: This to women.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, absolutely right, sure, and he clearly has like resources
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  Speaker 7: to be able to move the sway. He really sounds
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  Speaker 7: like a terrible person, even the fact that he laughs
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  Speaker 7: at her.
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  Speaker 5: Bringing up things as small like as this is a spoon.
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  Speaker 1: He wants to torture this woman on many levels.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's that old trick of let me make
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  Speaker 3: you doubt yourself, you're the bad person.
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  Speaker 4: Well, look, I'll tell you this.
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  Speaker 3: There are three thousand registered legal professionals in Cape Town.
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  Speaker 4: We'll find a good one.
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  Speaker 7: Okay, we haven't even touched on the first REMI it
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  Speaker 7: was there a sensed a bit of judgment there, Sisty
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  Speaker 7: living with dad.
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  Speaker 6: Eh, I mean he's just made a wrong decision. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 6: I think that. I'm assuming it's the younger brother. Now, yeah,
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  Speaker 6: it's the younger brother that you're talking. Yeah, but I
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  Speaker 6: mean it was his first time. So at fifty four,
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  Speaker 6: you're not living with dad. You do waiting for the house,
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  Speaker 6: you're taking care of dad. You're waiting. I'm waiting with dad,
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  Speaker 6: that's what you're doing. Yeah, Okay, good job for me.
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  Speaker 3: That is what's happening at the courthouse this week.
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  Speaker 4: Morning in the Morning with Darren Sherlin Sibbs and you