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Episode 19: Nicole Winhoffer, Celebrity Trainer · Hurdle with Emily Abbate

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Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of Hurdle. Emily a body here.
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Speaker 1: Today's guest is no Coal win offer. Nicole's a celebrity
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Speaker 1: trainer extraordinaire, well known for working with the one and
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Speaker 1: Only Madonna. She calls herself a global fitness artist and
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Speaker 1: created her signature NW method classes using her background and dance.
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Speaker 1: In this episode, went Offer talked about her Hurdle moment,
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Speaker 1: dancing in Wicked on Broadway and realizing that she truly
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Speaker 1: wasn't happy in her life or in her body and
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Speaker 1: needed to make a change. Let me tell you, Nicole
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Speaker 1: is like a pint size burst of energy. She was
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Speaker 1: so fun to sit down with when she was in
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Speaker 1: town for Propel's collapse last month, and when she walked
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Speaker 1: outside of the studio after recording, we were greeted by
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Speaker 1: this bus of cute kids. So naturally she decided that
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Speaker 1: she should immediately start dancing, until every single kid on
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Speaker 1: the bus watching her dance in middown Manhattan started smiling.
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Speaker 1: Another exciting thing to share. We have a date for
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Speaker 1: the next Hurdle Live. It's gonna be October third, back
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Speaker 1: by all the stories that come in these listener emails.
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Speaker 1: Are my why, and I can't stress that enough. A
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Speaker 1: listener named Kate emailed me at the beginning of the
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Speaker 1: week saying, and I'll read this one, she says, So
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Speaker 1: I just wanted to say thanks for all of you
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Speaker 1: Your interviews keep me going. Please also make more. I'm
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Speaker 1: I told my friend about you, and we're both like
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Speaker 1: total fangirls. Now, Thanks Kate, You're the best. I promise you.
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Speaker 1: If you email me, I will email you back. That's
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Speaker 1: how it works Emily at Hurdle US. And that's it.
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Speaker 1: Let's get to hurdling team. I'm sitting here today with
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Speaker 1: the Coole win offer first and foremost. Before we really
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Speaker 1: get into it, I've got to disclaim this voice is
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Speaker 1: in rough shape, so hurdlers, thank you for sticking with me.
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Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Here with the cool win offer. She
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Speaker 1: is trainer to the stars. She has worked with some
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Speaker 1: awesome celebrities including Stella McCartney, Jennifer Connelly and probably the
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Speaker 1: biggest of them all, Madonna. I'm so happy to have
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Speaker 1: you here today. Thank you for having me.
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Speaker 2: And I think your voice is a secondest thing I
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Speaker 2: ever heard in my life.
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Speaker 1: I hope everyone feels that way. When we were chatting
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Speaker 1: on the phone before sitting down today, you told me
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Speaker 1: that one of the goals in your classes is to
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Speaker 1: help your clients stop thinking, stop the thinking brain, excuse
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Speaker 1: me from thinking, and move closer to their own physical truth.
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Speaker 1: And you described a class of yours like and I quote,
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Speaker 1: an underground late eighties banging nightclub with loud music. Everyone's sweaty,
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Speaker 1: there's lights, dancing, You're infinite, A cooler modern version of
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Speaker 1: a Tony Robbins seminar.
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Speaker 2: I loved that. There go. Why don't you tell me
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Speaker 2: a little bit about your classes. Absolutely, the classes are
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Speaker 2: the most effective way to balance your energy, get your
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Speaker 2: muscles working in a new way. I counteract habitual movement
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Speaker 2: patterns that we do in everyday life. We're always moving forward, repeating, running, cycling.
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Speaker 2: It's all repetition of movement and one way. And I
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Speaker 2: like to challenge the body in new ways, get people
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Speaker 2: to think outside of what they're used to about breaking
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Speaker 2: old habits, breaking old habits. I like that.
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Speaker 1: And I would say from someone who hasn't had the
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Speaker 1: opportunity to take your class yet, that if you like
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Speaker 1: dance based classes, you would enjoy your class.
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Speaker 2: Is that correct? Absolutely? Yeah, all right. I was a
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Speaker 2: professional dancer growing up, and I think inside every human
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Speaker 2: body is a little dancer that just wants to come
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Speaker 2: out and play. And so I totally encourage movement and
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Speaker 2: freedom of expression.
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Speaker 1: Let's talk a little bit about your background and dance.
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Speaker 1: I know you grew up in the Bronx, Yes, so
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Speaker 1: talk to me about what that was like.
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Speaker 2: Well, that was my New York experience. It was my
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Speaker 2: j Lo experience. You know. I'm proud to say that
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Speaker 2: I grew up in the Bronx. That's where my dad
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Speaker 2: was raised. He's of German descent but born in the Bronx,
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Speaker 2: and my mom came over to America from the Philippines
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Speaker 2: when she was sixteen. So growing up in the Bronx,
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Speaker 2: I was exposed to the streets multicultural looking people, although
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Speaker 2: I always felt confused about what I looked like because
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Speaker 2: no one really looked like me. You were either one race,
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Speaker 2: not a mixture of multiple races. So I found dance
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Speaker 2: to be really soothing for me in allowing me to
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Speaker 2: express myself freely when there was no right or wrong.
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Speaker 2: And the Bronx was also the start of commerce in
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Speaker 2: arts in music. Music was huge back then. My dad
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Speaker 2: is a big music buff, and I just felt like
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Speaker 2: it was a really lucky time for me to arrive
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Speaker 2: and experience life.
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Speaker 1: So you grew up dancing, yes, and then you told
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Speaker 1: me that you became a professional dancer, so you went
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Speaker 1: down and started to get after it on Broadway.
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Speaker 2: Yes. So I was lucky enough to book a my
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Speaker 2: first Broadway show at sixteen, my senior year of high school,
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Speaker 2: and I wanted to be an artist and I wanted
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Speaker 2: to make lots of money and most importantly prove to
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Speaker 2: my parents as a rebellious teenager, that I will be
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Speaker 2: successful not going to college or being a doctor. And
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Speaker 2: so I kind of gave myself no choice but to
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Speaker 2: make it happen, and luckily enough, I made it happen.
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Speaker 2: So I did forty second Street, which is a tap
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Speaker 2: show that was your first one, yes, okay, And it
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Speaker 2: was really fun. And also I was like, Wow, I'm
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Speaker 2: making money and dancing and I get to go out
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Speaker 2: and drink. But it definitely, you know, was my first
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Speaker 2: experience in the real world at sixteen.
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Speaker 1: And I can't even imagine, like I wanted to I
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Speaker 1: went to college and Connecticut, but I wanted to go
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Speaker 1: to Boston University, and Boston is so much lesser than
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Speaker 1: New York. And I think about what that experienced that age,
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Speaker 1: even at eighteen, how I would have handled living in
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Speaker 1: a city versus what I ended up doing in Connecticut.
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Speaker 1: Like I had a hard time adjusting at twenty two
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Speaker 1: when I moved into New York.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the adjustment period. I think for me,
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Speaker 2: I'm being a dancer it kind of teaches you your
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Speaker 2: feelings and how you feel and in your body. So
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Speaker 2: I knew that that freedom that I did find was
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Speaker 2: like really really big. But what I felt the most
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Speaker 2: scared about was what am I going to do after
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Speaker 2: that kind of the thinking ahead? Okay, I booked my
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Speaker 2: first show, now what? And then like the fear can
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Speaker 2: set in if you're not really trusting where you are
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Speaker 2: in the moment and knowing that the universe will bring
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Speaker 2: to you if you're open to it, the possibility of
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Speaker 2: new experiences that you might not even imagine. So what
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Speaker 2: happened after forty second Street. I auditioned for Bombay Dreams,
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Speaker 2: which was an Andrew Lloyd Weber ar Raman Balywood show
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Speaker 2: on Broadway. And I booked that show. So it was
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Speaker 2: my first actual Broadway show. So I moved back to
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Speaker 2: the city and I understudied some of the leads. I
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Speaker 2: got to learn the Bollywood culture, I got to work
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Speaker 2: with air Ramon and Andreeloyd Webber pardoned me, and I
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Speaker 2: tried to go back to college. So a huge thing
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Speaker 2: in my family was what's your backup plan? What's your
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Speaker 2: backup plan? So I went to Fordham Lincoln Center also
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Speaker 2: full time and lived in the dorms at eighteen while
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Speaker 2: doing a Broadway show with two roommates on it with
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Speaker 2: a bump bed, and I was like, I was like
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Speaker 2: the anal, like responsible person and I'd be like, stop
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Speaker 2: you making too much noise. I can't concentrate. And it
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Speaker 2: was tough, but it taught me a lot the city
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Speaker 2: and trying to go back to school.
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Speaker 1: And it was a great experience. So you did the
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Speaker 1: Broadway show, Yes, and then what?
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Speaker 2: And then I did another show, Wicked, and it was
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Speaker 2: the best experience of my entire life because the choreographer
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Speaker 2: Wayne Cilento and the Tony winning director Joe Mantello brought
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Speaker 2: in this whole new world that was kind of like
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Speaker 2: not Broadway. And I also never really studied acting, and
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Speaker 2: Joe Mantello is one of the best of the best
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Speaker 2: of the best in the field. And I would just
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Speaker 2: go to the principal rehearsals and just hear him talk
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Speaker 2: and to the actors and how he was actually teaching
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Speaker 2: us about life and not really just acting. But these
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Speaker 2: are life experiences.
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Speaker 1: Don't you feel like that you have those great opportunities
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Speaker 1: and when you're teaching that it's not just about the workout.
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Speaker 2: It's so much bigger than that.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, I feel like, I mean, that's why my
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Speaker 1: voice is like this. I was teaching spin this morning,
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Speaker 1: and sometimes you just realize that you're really hitting home
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Speaker 1: with people and it's like you want to speak with them,
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Speaker 1: and it's obviously in that moment, maybe not a two
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Speaker 1: way conversation, but you just know, like you know how
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Speaker 1: special that time together and what you have the opportunity
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Speaker 1: to help them do both in your.
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Speaker 2: Class, Yeah, and out of it.
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Speaker 1: It's so great. Absolutely, it's so great. Okay, so Wicked,
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Speaker 1: that's outstanding. It's definitely one of my favorite Broadway shows.
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Speaker 1: You do Wicked and then dot dot Dot.
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Speaker 2: And then I was selected to go to Michael Howard Conservatory,
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Speaker 2: which is allowing actors to study body workshops to help
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Speaker 2: their skills. So I learned Alexander Technique, feld In Christ
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Speaker 2: Lucid body chakra work and then I use again the voice.
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Speaker 2: We're talking about the voice a new way to communicate
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Speaker 2: because being a dancer, you communicate with your body. So
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Speaker 2: if I was angry, I would crump it to you.
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Speaker 2: If I was sad, I would lyrical it to you.
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Speaker 2: But actors use their voice, So it was a totally
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Speaker 2: new way to communicate, to express yourself totally.
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Speaker 1: And I think you were telling me a little bit
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Speaker 1: before you walked in here about how along this kind
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Speaker 1: of you started to struggle a little bit with exactly
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Speaker 1: what the next step was for you. I think in
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Speaker 1: a lot of professions, but especially as a dancer, you're
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Speaker 1: really constantly thinking what's next, what's this pathway?
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Speaker 2: Like, yes, as you tell that story, I'm like, the
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Speaker 2: anxiety just sets in remembering memory. But yeah, dancer's life
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Speaker 2: is like you train your body and your discipline because
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Speaker 2: you love it, because you love the art. And it's
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Speaker 2: also highly addicting to see how to manipulate your body
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Speaker 2: through how good your feet can get, your turnout, your presence,
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Speaker 2: how many piroetes you can do taking class, And it's
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Speaker 2: a totally big community. It's an underground community of art,
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Speaker 2: of dancers, of choreographers. But when you start to become
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Speaker 2: a professional dancer, you start to learn the field and
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Speaker 2: you start to get acquainted with money and survival and understanding,
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Speaker 2: oh my god, like I'm actually doing this as a profession,
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Speaker 2: So you start to think about what's the next thing.
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Speaker 2: They call it in dance terms, what's the next gig?
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Speaker 2: Are you working or not working? And so when I
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Speaker 2: left Wicked and went to this acting school, I had
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Speaker 2: no job. I was co checking at mister Childs and Tribeca,
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Speaker 2: I was bartending at Chiprianni's. I was a cater waiter.
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Speaker 2: I was broke. But I knew that I left Wicked
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Speaker 2: because I was no longer happy in myself. So I
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Speaker 2: find that when I'm not happy in myself that the
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Speaker 2: more actions I take or try a different thing, it
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Speaker 2: can teach me to figure out what makes me happy.
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Speaker 1: Right, So essentially this is kind of your hurdle moment
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Speaker 1: right before you went to this it's a conservatory, you said, correct, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: right before you went to the conservatory, it's what's going
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Speaker 1: on from here?
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Speaker 2: Where am I going next?
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Speaker 1: If you weren't happy on one of the biggest shows
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Speaker 1: on Broadway, how are you going to keep going like that?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was definitely a hurdle moment. And in fact
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Speaker 2: I called my parents to tell them, like, which is scary,
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Speaker 2: Like I'm not happy and I like gained all this weight,
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Speaker 2: and my costumes like weren't exactly fitting, and my partner
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Speaker 2: was like having problems lifting me. But it's because I
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Speaker 2: wasn't being inspired, Like my creativity wasn't being inspired, and
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Speaker 2: so I got the support that I had asked for,
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Speaker 2: and going to the school inspired me. I wasn't making money,
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Speaker 2: I wasn't on Broadway, I wasn't doing things that were
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Speaker 2: getting me recognized. But I was like, Wow, I feel
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Speaker 2: like a kid. I'm exploring. I'm so happy. This is fun,
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Speaker 2: and I think that is something that people and I
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Speaker 2: have lost. Sometimes. It's like that creativity what brings you joy?
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Speaker 1: And so how does one go from this conservatory to
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Speaker 1: finding joy and then along that way finding celebrity clientele.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think if I were to put it in
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Speaker 2: terms for your followers on Hurdle, it was I'm doing something,
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Speaker 2: I'm really good at it. I know what I'm doing,
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Speaker 2: but something's missing. Okay, what is missing? I have no idea,
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Speaker 2: And then you start to try doing things differently. So
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Speaker 2: going to that school was super different. So I learned
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Speaker 2: things about myself that I never knew, Like I'm actually
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Speaker 2: really insecure. So like me going up to do a
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Speaker 2: scene in front of people, I was like, oh my god,
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Speaker 2: I hope no one sees me. I actually felt scared
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Speaker 2: because I had no money. So putting myself in these
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Speaker 2: new life experiences built a stronger self, trust in myself
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Speaker 2: and put less emphasis on like what I was doing
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Speaker 2: in the physical world, and more on taking care of myself.
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Speaker 2: I was reading Eckertol's The Power of Now. He said
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Speaker 2: in the book, there actually is no problem, just keep
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Speaker 2: saying yes to the universe and that then I just
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Speaker 2: found myself becoming a personal trainer.
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Speaker 1: Right, And I think, actually, I would say some of
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Speaker 1: the trainers I know in the city here especially, a
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Speaker 1: lot of them have passed acting and dancing on Broadway
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Speaker 1: for sure. Yeah, definitely translates.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the performance aspect, and you know, when
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Speaker 2: you're a teacher and you're in front of the class,
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Speaker 2: there's definitely you're on stage. And I like to think
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Speaker 2: of it as a performance as well. And I know
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Speaker 2: that in the arts you develop a type of self expression,
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Speaker 2: a confidence, and a knowing in yourself that people actually
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Speaker 2: look up to. So I definitely see the parallel. Definitely.
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Speaker 1: Okay, so you become a personal trainer and then what happens.
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Speaker 2: And then I end up going on tour. I went
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Speaker 2: on Madonna's Sticking in Sweet tour for two months to
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Speaker 2: train her dancers.
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Speaker 1: And how did you even get that gig? I bet
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Speaker 1: people are like, I would die for that gig.
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Speaker 2: Oh. I don't know if I could lose a life
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Speaker 2: over anything in this world to TV eight, to be honest,
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Speaker 2: but yeah, she was looking for a trainer to train
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Speaker 2: her dancers, and in the dance community, my name came up.
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Speaker 2: She had an audition, she chose me, and I ended
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Speaker 2: up going on tour with her, and then from there
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Speaker 2: I fell in love with dancing again because I hadn't
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Speaker 2: danced in a while and I was like, oh my god,
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Speaker 2: I miss dancing. So then I went back to New
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Speaker 2: York and then I did the MTV Music Awards with Shakira,
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Speaker 2: and then I started doing commercial work as a dancer
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Speaker 2: because broadway dancing is different to commercial work. And then
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Speaker 2: she asked me to be her trainer full time. So
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Speaker 2: I ended up working with her full time and it
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Speaker 2: was one of the most challenging experiences of my life
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Speaker 2: because I had to relearn or learn a brand new
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Speaker 2: industry and become the best at it. And then I
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Speaker 2: started training all of these amazing people like Stella McCartney,
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Speaker 2: who was like the head fashion designer of the world,
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Speaker 2: and Spike Jones, who's a great director, and bertual Leone
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Speaker 2: who's the creative director of Kenzo, and Jennifer Connolly, Rachel
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Speaker 2: Weiss and all of these amazing artists. I was able
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Speaker 2: to get to work with them, to be able to
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Speaker 2: be in charge of their energy, their bodies and learn too.
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Speaker 1: This makes me wonder, I'm super curious doing that. Did
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Speaker 1: you ever feel like you had a little bit of
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Speaker 1: imposter syndrome?
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Speaker 2: What's that?
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Speaker 1: So I sat down to breakfast with someone once and
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Speaker 1: I told him I was about to go on a
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Speaker 1: Good Morning America and lead a workout segment. I was
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Speaker 1: the fitness editor itself in the time, and we had
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Speaker 1: partnered up, and so I said to him, I was like,
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Speaker 1: I'm a certified trainer. I do this all the time.
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Speaker 1: But like I'm like, why are these people listening to me?
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Speaker 1: Like why am I going to be on morning television?
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Speaker 1: And he said, he looked at me, and he said,
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Speaker 1: You've got to put the imposter syndrome to the side
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Speaker 1: and just believe that you're doing this because you're supposed
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Speaker 1: to be doing it, because you're good at what you do.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I never heard the imposter syndrome. I didn't
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Speaker 2: question it. It was just I was having dream after
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Speaker 2: dream after dream after dream come true, Like I would
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Speaker 2: like even sitting with you in your studio today and
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Speaker 2: you're asking me these amazing questions and I'm sharing my
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Speaker 2: answers with you. I'm having like an out of body
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Speaker 2: experience talking to you that, oh you like care about
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Speaker 2: what I have to say. It's not just me.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's awesome, regardless of whether you know you've
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Speaker 1: worked with Madonna or if you're just walking down thirty
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Speaker 1: fourth Street right now. Like, everyone has a story that's
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Speaker 1: worth telling, and sometimes people feel like the things that
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Speaker 1: they have taken to accomplish aren't good enough. But the
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Speaker 1: reality is that this is your reality, and your story
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Speaker 1: is so valuable no matter what you're doing. Taking a
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Speaker 1: to it. I'm back here sitting with Nicole Windhoffer. I
20:50
Speaker 1: was reading something in a Forbes article, and you told
20:54
Speaker 1: Forbes once you said, I went on two of Madonna's
20:57
Speaker 1: world tours with two mobile gyms, stopping it ninety different
21:01
Speaker 1: cities within nine months. The goal was to create the
21:04
Speaker 1: exact same experience for her no matter where we were.
21:07
Speaker 1: It was intense as I needed to communicate with people
21:10
Speaker 1: that didn't speak English and operate in countries that had
21:13
Speaker 1: different products, within environments that had different temperature extremes. I
21:18
Speaker 1: had to be well prepared and always always have a
21:21
Speaker 1: backup plan. Lessons learned, Prepare, be patient, arrive early. Would
21:28
Speaker 1: you say that those are three of the biggest lessons
21:31
Speaker 1: you've learned with working with these high brow clients, these
21:35
Speaker 1: celebrity clients.
21:36
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you just gave me the chills because
21:39
Speaker 2: you're reminding me of those lessons that I often forget.
21:44
Speaker 2: It's simple, like life is simple, and sometimes in when
21:47
Speaker 2: I attract abundance, then I forget to be patient to
21:51
Speaker 2: arrived on time because there's so much going on. But yeah,
21:56
Speaker 2: those lessons were definitely important, and I was able to
22:00
Speaker 2: work with all of these great mentors that I learned from,
22:03
Speaker 2: and I'm currently seeking out new mentors. But they say
22:07
Speaker 2: when the student is ready, the teacher appears. So I
22:12
Speaker 2: definitely think that I'm in the right place at the
22:15
Speaker 2: right time. And I never take anything for granted. I
22:20
Speaker 2: work hard. I also accept myself more and patience is
22:26
Speaker 2: something I think is going to be a life lesson
22:28
Speaker 2: for me because even the slower I go and the
22:31
Speaker 2: more I relax in my life, the more the universe
22:34
Speaker 2: is telling me even more patient, even more patient, even
22:37
Speaker 2: more patient.
22:38
Speaker 1: I totally know that. It's actually interesting. I was having
22:41
Speaker 1: a conversation with a few women, including my mentor, the
22:46
Speaker 1: other day and the question kind of came up. Do
22:50
Speaker 1: you ever get to a point where you're a mentor
22:54
Speaker 1: and you feel like you don't have mentors anymore? And
22:57
Speaker 1: I think when you have been so successful, people are like, well,
23:01
Speaker 1: who do you look to? And some people would say, like,
23:04
Speaker 1: I realize that now I'm just meant to be the mentor.
23:07
Speaker 1: But the thing is is, I don't know if I
23:09
Speaker 1: exactly agree with that.
23:11
Speaker 2: I have to yeah. I mean, you're such a great
23:13
Speaker 2: entrepreneur too, and I think that I have to agree
23:15
Speaker 2: with you that. I think I have viewed myself in
23:20
Speaker 2: an in between space of having mentors. I have one
23:25
Speaker 2: in business and one in psychology, but I'm looking for
23:31
Speaker 2: a mentor, a female mentor that's actually in the spotlight
23:34
Speaker 2: because I had Madonna for so long and then now
23:38
Speaker 2: I'm mentoring others. I have mentoring people under me as well,
23:43
Speaker 2: So I feel often pulled in different directions. You know,
23:46
Speaker 2: it's different. How do you find the time?
23:48
Speaker 1: I think that's a really popular question, actually, people say
23:51
Speaker 1: how do you find the time to give back? Obviously
23:53
Speaker 1: you've been given so much at this point, you had
23:56
Speaker 1: Madonna as a mentor for so long, and I think
23:59
Speaker 1: people struggle sometimes being in the act of service to others.
24:03
Speaker 1: So how do you find the time to get back
24:05
Speaker 1: to the people that look up to you.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good question. I think by you offering
24:11
Speaker 2: me this opportunity to speak my story is one way,
24:14
Speaker 2: So participating with people like you, I think. Secondly, my
24:18
Speaker 2: job is I make people feel good, so I'm lucky
24:22
Speaker 2: that I'm attracting financial abundance as well as helping people
24:28
Speaker 2: in my service to them. And lastly, I think when
24:32
Speaker 2: you ask me how do I have the time, I've
24:34
Speaker 2: been consciously intentionally creating time in my calendar and the
24:38
Speaker 2: first person I give back to is me and I
24:41
Speaker 2: never used to do that. And the more I schedule
24:45
Speaker 2: wake up time, drink water time, relaxation time, massage time,
24:49
Speaker 2: hike time, alone time, less phone time, the more people
24:54
Speaker 2: come back to me, and the better I can be
24:55
Speaker 2: to give more. Whereas before, I think in my twenties,
24:59
Speaker 2: I was like, I have to do this, and I
25:00
Speaker 2: have to do that, I have to do that, and
25:02
Speaker 2: it was depleting my energy, not realizing when I'm selfish
25:05
Speaker 2: with my time, I'm actually being better.
25:09
Speaker 1: What's interesting, I think is a lot of people they
25:12
Speaker 1: hear what you just said, and you're like, I'm scheduling
25:14
Speaker 1: time for these eight activities, which should not be stressful activities,
25:19
Speaker 1: But I feel like that's almost sometimes the barrier to
25:22
Speaker 1: entry for some people to take me time is they
25:24
Speaker 1: feel like it's almost kind of stressful to like figure
25:27
Speaker 1: out when it's going to happen. So what would you
25:29
Speaker 1: say to someone who feels like they just can't make
25:33
Speaker 1: the time to make it all happen.
25:36
Speaker 2: That they're moving too fast and doing too much. Yeah,
25:39
Speaker 2: I think that that was a huge lesson that my
25:42
Speaker 2: mentor taught me was integration of experiences, like the time
25:48
Speaker 2: like after we have this podcast talk, I'm definitely going
25:51
Speaker 2: to take twenty five minutes to integrate what I've learned
25:54
Speaker 2: from you, what I think happened in my experience here
25:59
Speaker 2: with you, and then like closing that and then going
26:02
Speaker 2: to meet my next appointment.
26:04
Speaker 1: I think that a really good tool that I started
26:08
Speaker 1: using is in the mornings and the things I've scheduled.
26:11
Speaker 1: One of them is taking about like five to ten
26:14
Speaker 1: minutes to write three things that made me feel fulfilled
26:18
Speaker 1: or happy down in a gratitude journal. And since doing that,
26:22
Speaker 1: I feel like it makes me realize especially on the
26:24
Speaker 1: days where I have a hard time maybe writing down
26:27
Speaker 1: those three things?
26:28
Speaker 2: What could I do differently?
26:30
Speaker 1: How could I have tweaked something that it would have
26:32
Speaker 1: put me in a better place, just a little you know,
26:35
Speaker 1: personal reflection.
26:36
Speaker 2: I love that it's special. It's really special. I forget
26:39
Speaker 2: those simple things. Like you said, you have your gratitude journal,
26:43
Speaker 2: like I feel like a huge lesson for me too,
26:46
Speaker 2: is I didn't appreciate the things that I had until
26:49
Speaker 2: they were gone. So I think you just reminded me
26:52
Speaker 2: to remember to write those things down in the morning,
26:55
Speaker 2: because you never know. We get so used to the
26:56
Speaker 2: way our lives are and sometimes feel a lot better
26:59
Speaker 2: at like those types of rituals. At night. I'm such
27:01
Speaker 2: an early bird. Yeah, I'm like, well time you wake up?
27:04
Speaker 1: God, three thirty, Thank god, it's not that extreme by
27:09
Speaker 1: six every day?
27:11
Speaker 2: Wow? What about you? Uh more seven thirty? You know,
27:15
Speaker 2: And some people function better that way.
27:16
Speaker 1: For me, I also go to bed typically speaking like
27:19
Speaker 1: the four ten nice so I'm getting eight hours, and
27:23
Speaker 1: I'll feel it on the days that I don't, I'll uh.
27:26
Speaker 1: I had been teaching for the past year or a
27:29
Speaker 1: six am class on Tuesdays. Oh so I'm alarms four
27:34
Speaker 1: forty five. Subway is five twenty one, so I'm out
27:38
Speaker 1: the door at five eleven to make that train.
27:42
Speaker 2: It's been rough.
27:42
Speaker 1: It's been rough, but it's taught me something right like,
27:45
Speaker 1: so you take a step back and you think about
27:47
Speaker 1: what you've learned from the experience that has taught me
27:50
Speaker 1: diligence beyond and it's taught me that again being in
27:54
Speaker 1: service of others. There were so many people that would
27:57
Speaker 1: show up to that class and feel so think that
28:00
Speaker 1: I was there to help them at that time, and
28:02
Speaker 1: so you know what you learned something I learned to
28:05
Speaker 1: be thankful in that being a little drowsy.
28:07
Speaker 2: Uh have so much energy. I feel like if we
28:11
Speaker 2: went out together, we would like turn up.
28:13
Speaker 1: To turn up, turn up the town. I told I
28:16
Speaker 1: told h Nicole before we started this podcast that I
28:18
Speaker 1: used to teach dance. But what I didn't tell you
28:21
Speaker 1: is I used to teach hip hop, which is a
28:22
Speaker 1: little known about.
28:24
Speaker 2: Emily.
28:25
Speaker 1: What is some of the best advice that you have
28:27
Speaker 1: been given in your career to not save the world
28:32
Speaker 1: and what do you mean by that?
28:34
Speaker 2: I had an experience with one of my mentors who
28:38
Speaker 2: I was actually working with in business. And after that
28:44
Speaker 2: experience ended, we reconnected three years later and he told
28:51
Speaker 2: me the thing about you, Nicole is you don't need
28:55
Speaker 2: to save the world. And I think I took it
28:58
Speaker 2: as in my ambitious, strong fortitude, willing attitude of I'm
29:06
Speaker 2: building a business and I have to do this now,
29:09
Speaker 2: I had to do this yesterday. In my entrepreneurial spirit,
29:12
Speaker 2: I would not take no for an answer. You will
29:15
Speaker 2: not bully me man in business finance field. I am
29:18
Speaker 2: going to do this. It's like it's actually going to
29:22
Speaker 2: happen and I don't need to will it. So I
29:25
Speaker 2: think when he told me, Nicole, you don't need to
29:27
Speaker 2: save the world, it was like trust it's going to happen,
29:30
Speaker 2: and you can relax and know it's going to happen.
29:35
Speaker 2: And the more I relaxed and slowed down and breathed,
29:39
Speaker 2: it made it so much easier. Like my life is
29:42
Speaker 2: so easy now because things just come to me. So
29:45
Speaker 2: I think that was the best piece of advice.
29:48
Speaker 1: It's so funny, be guys, you work your tail off
29:52
Speaker 1: and you're like, things are so easy now, But it's
29:56
Speaker 1: easy because you become accustomed to this lifestyle. This grind
30:00
Speaker 1: wouldn't you say, because maybe before you started working at
30:04
Speaker 1: this capacity, you were, you know, on the other side
30:07
Speaker 1: of your comfort zone. But once you pushed your comfort zone,
30:11
Speaker 1: well you just pushed it forward a little bit, more
30:13
Speaker 1: like you pushed it to the right. So it's like,
30:15
Speaker 1: all right, I just got comfortable with this level. So
30:18
Speaker 1: I've dial I've turned the dial to the right. We
30:21
Speaker 1: pushed the volume up, and now I'm cool with this volume.
30:24
Speaker 2: That's so true. But you didn't. You weren't there before.
30:28
Speaker 2: That's such a wise perspective. I never even thought about that.
30:31
Speaker 2: I had David Seek on the podcast.
30:34
Speaker 1: He's the creator of a program at Equinox called Precision Running. Uh,
30:38
Speaker 1: and he said, Uh, you can do a lot of
30:41
Speaker 1: things good, but if you're so busy doing so many
30:44
Speaker 1: things good, you'll never do one thing great.
30:47
Speaker 2: Oh.
30:47
Speaker 1: I just got the chills. Oh, David Sikh, He's a bomb.
30:50
Speaker 1: So great career advice. We love that you mentioned one
30:54
Speaker 1: book before. Do you have a favorite book that you
30:56
Speaker 1: like to give people?
30:58
Speaker 2: M I have three. Ooh, I like that. I like
31:03
Speaker 2: that you come prepared. One is The Thinking Body by
31:07
Speaker 2: Mabel Todd. It's a very famous kind of kinesiology, kinetics
31:12
Speaker 2: anatomy book, very simple read, one of Marilyn Monroe's favorites.
31:17
Speaker 2: The second one would be The Alchemist by Paulo Coelo classic,
31:23
Speaker 2: and the third is Unleash the Power Within by Tony Robbins.
31:31
Speaker 2: I think those three books would pretty much sum up
31:35
Speaker 2: anybody who's looking for a good, easy, inspiring read. I
31:40
Speaker 2: love that you're on the Tony Robins dream. I'm about it.
31:45
Speaker 1: I actually have a girlfriend right now that's at one
31:47
Speaker 1: of his seminars. Really, it's in Chicago. Who do you
31:52
Speaker 1: look up to?
31:52
Speaker 2: Now?
31:54
Speaker 1: Big question aside from you know, mister Robbins himself, Yeah.
32:00
Speaker 2: Yeah, or where? Or maybe a little bit.
32:03
Speaker 1: More loosely like where do you draw inspiration from?
32:10
Speaker 2: All right, I'll answer that question first. So inspiration comes
32:13
Speaker 2: to me by through art, going to museums. I was
32:17
Speaker 2: at Reagan Projects in LA. They were just showing Marilyn
32:20
Speaker 2: Minter work, one of my favorite artists. Going to the MoMA.
32:24
Speaker 2: Cindy Sherman's another favorite artists. I love psychology. Freud is
32:30
Speaker 2: a huge inspiration to me and just the connection between
32:33
Speaker 2: mind and body, so I'll watch documentaries about him. I
32:37
Speaker 2: love fashion. My favorite right now is Virgil for off White.
32:45
Speaker 2: I also love Margiella and I get my inspiration visually
32:50
Speaker 2: just from seeing pictures or seeing magazines. And also traveling
32:54
Speaker 2: is huge. Whenever I go to different countries, I pull
32:58
Speaker 2: from different cultures. In Brazil and the favelas and in
33:03
Speaker 2: Soul Korea, all of the different types of cuisine I
33:08
Speaker 2: just pulled from everywhere.
33:09
Speaker 1: Where's your favorite place you've been lately aside from this studio.
33:16
Speaker 2: Only, I must say like, you're great being. I love
33:20
Speaker 2: spending time with you. Ed. I think Rio dejian Eio Basil. Oh, yeah,
33:25
Speaker 2: the moll Brazil has this energy about it. Granted I
33:29
Speaker 2: haven't been there in two years, but I love the
33:32
Speaker 2: energy there. I also love Budapest. I think it's really special.
33:37
Speaker 2: And I would say those are my top two.
33:41
Speaker 1: You said before that you like to provide your clients
33:44
Speaker 1: when they come in for a class, the ability to
33:49
Speaker 1: stop using their thinking mind. Yes, what else do you
33:52
Speaker 1: want to give them when they come in to see you?
33:55
Speaker 2: I want them to realize that they have all the
33:58
Speaker 2: answers and the power within themselves, and to stop seeking
34:03
Speaker 2: outside themselves for the answers or the solutions, that it's
34:08
Speaker 2: within them. And lastly, I want to give them the
34:12
Speaker 2: power of trusting their intuition. I think so often our
34:17
Speaker 2: rational brains talk us out of things. We feel like
34:20
Speaker 2: the mom who thinks that their child is smoking cigarettes
34:24
Speaker 2: and she's like, oh, my child would never do that.
34:25
Speaker 2: My child would never do that. My child like the
34:27
Speaker 2: avoidance of what they feel. So the intuition of knowing
34:33
Speaker 2: that you know that you know what you want, that
34:35
Speaker 2: you know what's going to happen, and to continue taking actions.
34:39
Speaker 1: We're all constantly you know, a work in progress, so
34:42
Speaker 1: to speak. What's something that you are consciously working on
34:46
Speaker 1: right now?
34:48
Speaker 2: Who I'm working on a lot of things. One is relaxation.
34:53
Speaker 2: The more I relax, the more I know what I need.
34:56
Speaker 2: I'm working on asking for what I want and ask
35:00
Speaker 2: for what I need. I'm working on giving direction to
35:05
Speaker 2: my team and telling them what needs to happen. I'm
35:10
Speaker 2: working on slowing down. I'm working on growing my business
35:15
Speaker 2: in a way that feels comfortable to me, not just
35:19
Speaker 2: thinking what growing a business is supposed to be about.
35:23
Speaker 2: I'm working on choosing to spend my time with people
35:27
Speaker 2: that make me feel good and not just because it's
35:30
Speaker 2: been like this for years.
35:32
Speaker 1: I love that it's important. It's so important, it's so important,
35:36
Speaker 1: and it's this idea. Like I said to someone the
35:39
Speaker 1: other day, I'm working on spending my time with people
35:43
Speaker 1: that feel more like a faucet and less like a drain.
35:47
Speaker 1: I love that You're we're walking out of here like
35:49
Speaker 1: better people, better people.
35:51
Speaker 2: I just high vibd uh. Okay.
35:55
Speaker 1: So that's what you're working on. What are you working
35:57
Speaker 1: on professionally? What's next for you guys? What's sex for Professionally?
36:01
Speaker 2: I'm working on opening my first studio, which involves many
36:06
Speaker 2: skills and leadership tach qualities that I guess the universe
36:11
Speaker 2: is calling upon me because I've never opened a studio
36:14
Speaker 2: before my own. I've opened different Madonna's studios at Hard
36:19
Speaker 2: Candy Fitness, but taking the responsibility of that professionally, quick pause,
36:24
Speaker 2: what's hard? Talk to them about what Hard Candy Fitness is.
36:27
Speaker 2: Hard Candy Fitness was a global brand in fitness that
36:32
Speaker 2: comprised of Madonna's workouts that I created with her, and
36:38
Speaker 2: they opened up eight global gyms in countries like Chile,
36:42
Speaker 2: in Berlin, in Sydney, Australia, in Mexico, and my role
36:49
Speaker 2: there was creative director of the program and also to
36:52
Speaker 2: train the trainers in each of these countries that also
36:54
Speaker 2: did not speak English in the method that I created
37:00
Speaker 2: with Madonna.
37:01
Speaker 1: So, now opening this new studio and obviously having taught
37:06
Speaker 1: your method for the last few years, you've actually certified
37:10
Speaker 1: a lot of people to teach what you teach.
37:12
Speaker 2: Is that correct? Yeah? Not a lot? Actually only five.
37:19
Speaker 2: Oh that's less than I thought. Yeah, so I have
37:23
Speaker 2: scaled my business. The teachers that are officially certified or
37:29
Speaker 2: spent a lot of hours watching my ten years of
37:32
Speaker 2: videos and manuals and studying and it's like a two
37:35
Speaker 2: year kind of process. Wow, and then they're like officially
37:40
Speaker 2: a trainer. But because I have so many followers and
37:43
Speaker 2: fans around the world from the Madonna brand, there were
37:46
Speaker 2: trainers in these countries that wanted to teach. So they're
37:50
Speaker 2: not doing privates like they're not training my private celebrity
37:53
Speaker 2: clients under me, but they are teaching the dance program
37:56
Speaker 2: by a certification primarily like Zoomba. It does exist.
38:01
Speaker 1: So I have two follow up questions. The first one
38:03
Speaker 1: is this studio that you're opening, where is it.
38:06
Speaker 2: It's going to be downtown in New York City. Awesome
38:09
Speaker 2: to hear.
38:10
Speaker 1: Yeah, the second question, and you mentioned social media. So
38:14
Speaker 1: how has I mean, you've been doing this for so
38:16
Speaker 1: long now, how has your business changed since social media
38:20
Speaker 1: has become such a force.
38:25
Speaker 2: Wow, I mean social media has taught me that nothing
38:28
Speaker 2: stays the same and the world is in constant expansion,
38:33
Speaker 2: and also that I need support on my team to
38:37
Speaker 2: keep up with the expansion word because I'm slowing down.
38:41
Speaker 2: But it's taught me that when I started out in
38:45
Speaker 2: this business in two thousand and nine, like there was
38:48
Speaker 2: no social media. So all of the things I was
38:51
Speaker 2: doing were in a connection with Madonna, with Stella McCartney
38:55
Speaker 2: in a private room that no one really knew about.
38:57
Speaker 2: And how people would receive this information us through press,
39:01
Speaker 2: through stories and press. Now with social media, there's an
39:04
Speaker 2: ability for people to communicate more to being connection more
39:08
Speaker 2: with me. I'm trying to move away from technology, so personally,
39:13
Speaker 2: it's been something that my business is struggling with because
39:17
Speaker 2: it's part of my business. So I doubled. Yeah, because
39:21
Speaker 2: I'm stopping. I don't really use my phone, So it's
39:25
Speaker 2: been I'm still in it, I'm still learning from it,
39:28
Speaker 2: and I'm do you think about just having someone else
39:31
Speaker 2: do that for you. Yeah, I actually am thinking about
39:35
Speaker 2: hiring someone full time to help me whose genius work
39:38
Speaker 2: is social media. There are many of them. There are
39:42
Speaker 2: many of them.
39:43
Speaker 1: You also mentioned something that I think is interesting about
39:48
Speaker 1: how things are different from being a trainer to being
39:51
Speaker 1: a trainer who opens a business. And I was having
39:54
Speaker 1: a call with the one and only Gunnard Peterson.
39:58
Speaker 2: I know you know him well.
40:00
Speaker 1: We were talking on the phone and he told me
40:02
Speaker 1: that a big misconception is people that are trainers think
40:05
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna I'm just gonna go out on my own.
40:07
Speaker 1: But he's like, are you thinking about not only just
40:10
Speaker 1: the rent, that you're gonna need, towels, that you're gonna need, parking,
40:13
Speaker 1: that you're gonna need all of these things that go
40:16
Speaker 1: into sustaining having your own place. And he says, that's,
40:20
Speaker 1: you know, a big struggle for people. What would you say,
40:25
Speaker 1: looking back on that time when you were a little
40:27
Speaker 1: lost before that conservatory is one huge piece of advice
40:32
Speaker 1: now looking back on it, that you would have given
40:35
Speaker 1: yourself then, oh.
40:36
Speaker 2: My god, to welcome the lostness. I think so often
40:43
Speaker 2: people are like, you are what you're saying, don't say
40:47
Speaker 2: that you're lost, because then you will be lost. Don't
40:50
Speaker 2: say you're disorganizers and you're gonna be disorganized. What's the saying.
40:53
Speaker 2: It's whether you think you can or you can't. You
40:56
Speaker 2: can't You're right, yes, And I was lost at the time,
41:01
Speaker 2: And I think that because I welcomed it and admitted
41:05
Speaker 2: to myself that I was, then I was able to
41:07
Speaker 2: move from that. But I think so often people don't
41:09
Speaker 2: admit the truth. So I think a good piece of
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Speaker 2: advice is to get really honest with yourself and admitting
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Speaker 2: to yourself, like are you happy? Is this making you happy?
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Speaker 2: Do you need a change? What do you really want
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Speaker 2: to do? What brings you ultimate joy? Because ninety nine
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Speaker 2: times out of ten it has to either do with singing, music, drawing, dancing,
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Speaker 2: doing something more joyous that's like in our creative spirit.
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Speaker 2: And I think that the advice I would give is like,
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Speaker 2: ask yourself are you happy? Like are you truly happy?
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Speaker 1: I think that's a really great note to end on. Actually, Nicole,
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Speaker 1: thank you so much for coming to Bay with me.
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Speaker 2: Where do they find you? What's the DS? I just
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Speaker 2: wanted to compliment to you on how amazing you are
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Speaker 2: at your job, Like this woman right here sitting next
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Speaker 2: to me is so on it. I can't even begin
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Speaker 2: to explain her on points. You're sweet. So you can
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Speaker 2: find me Nicolewinhoffer at Nicolewenhoffer on Instagram, Nicolewinhoffer dot com
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Speaker 2: training and classes with me. I'm so happy we did this.
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Speaker 1: I am thank you at Emily Abodi on Instagram.
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Speaker 2: Another hurdle conquered. Catch you guys next time