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Mid-August Gardening Harvests, Surprises, and Fresh Tips [08.16.2025] · Garden America Saturday

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Garden America Show, the country's most to
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  Speaker 1: listen to gardening program. This is your chance to join
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  Speaker 1: us as we talk about gardening, horticulture, landscaping, in fact,
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  Speaker 1: anything that has to do with the world of gardening.
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  Speaker 1: Now here's Brian Maine, John Bagnasco, and Tiger Palafox on
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  Speaker 1: the Garden America Radio and Media Network.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back, my friend. We are back in studio which
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  Speaker 2: Garden America. Brian Maine, John Begnasco, Tiger Pelafox. Good to
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  Speaker 2: be back in familiar surroundings here as we went from
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  Speaker 2: the outdoors to the indoors and we're hoping things are
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  Speaker 2: going to go just peachy keen today Tiger Palafox Again,
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  Speaker 2: I'm Brian Maine, John Begnasco, John, good to see you here.
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  Speaker 2: You're up and ready to go. In fact, John was
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  Speaker 2: the first one here today and when I arrived, he
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  Speaker 2: was in the parking lot. Oh really yeah already, And
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  Speaker 2: then he says, you got your last night He camped
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  Speaker 2: out there out there. He was so excited, so excited
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  Speaker 2: to be back here. I was here at six sixty five. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I pulled in about quartered tenders.
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  Speaker 3: Here are San jose friend Tom that she's back in
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  Speaker 3: the USA. She was in Amsterdam and Norway.
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  Speaker 4: Oh memory, was she the one that asked about you
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  Speaker 4: have to visit?
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  Speaker 3: Well, she had a fam maybe I don't know, but
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  Speaker 3: she had a family reunion in Norway, and she.
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  Speaker 2: Told us before she left, because didn't she ask us
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  Speaker 2: we were doing a broadcast at the nursery.
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  Speaker 4: She asked about places to go in Amsterdam.
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  Speaker 2: Or exactly yeah, and you gave her yeah. But that
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  Speaker 2: wasn't a very nice part.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, if I don't know if you guys
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  Speaker 3: noticed in the newsletter, did she sent a picture of
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  Speaker 3: her plumeria blooming?
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  Speaker 2: Yes? I did see that, and that was the plumeria
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  Speaker 2: that she got the cutting.
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  Speaker 4: Oh it's crazy how sometimes plumerias will bloom so early
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  Speaker 4: and then some just won't bloom.
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  Speaker 2: Oh you know what I mean about them? Don't You
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  Speaker 2: can't really rely on anything. They're very because you're right,
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  Speaker 2: because I had mine didn't bloom until maybe a month
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  Speaker 2: or so ago. It just like, come on, what are
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  Speaker 2: you gonna do?
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  Speaker 4: You get envy because then there's all these people posting
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  Speaker 4: these plumeria flower blooms.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I relate.
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  Speaker 4: Just just having them grow.
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  Speaker 2: You know, go ahead.
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  Speaker 4: I was up at California, California Rare Fruit Grower, California
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  Speaker 4: Rare Fruit Growers Association. No, it was an association. It
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  Speaker 4: was it was like a nursery and they're up in
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  Speaker 4: here Fallbrook area, like I can't remember exactly where it was,
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  Speaker 4: but they had a ton of plumerias at this at
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  Speaker 4: this nursery too, and they were growing great. They were
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  Speaker 4: out there in kind of the northeast county as well.
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  Speaker 4: Not just about jacks, no, no, not jungle jacks. This
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  Speaker 4: was California Rare Fruit Grocer.
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  Speaker 2: Or grow I think that's what That's what I anyway.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so yeah, I was picking up some trees for
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  Speaker 4: a customer and you know, they were growing great out there.
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  Speaker 2: There were some things that we need to talk about,
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  Speaker 2: need to clean up just talking. Yeah, one was it
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  Speaker 2: was last week.
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  Speaker 3: I think we were talking about multi right, yes, and
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  Speaker 3: you were talking about how you like gorilla hair, correct,
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  Speaker 3: and we you know, sometimes when we start talking, you
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  Speaker 3: don't think of the whole the scope of the whole
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  Speaker 3: subject because we have limited time, right, and plus we
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  Speaker 3: have short attention spans.
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  Speaker 2: But sharing one part of the conversation, Yeah, but what.
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  Speaker 3: We for neglected to do Tiger was to let people
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  Speaker 3: know about if you're in a fire prone area, check
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  Speaker 3: with your local guideline.
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  Speaker 2: Like cal Fire has restrictions.
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  Speaker 3: You're not even allowed to use hair, all right, and
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  Speaker 3: that one of their restrictions is no malt or plants
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  Speaker 3: for five feet. Well you could have plants, I guess,
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  Speaker 3: but no malt five feet of the house. No mulch
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  Speaker 3: that can burn. No, yeah, yeah, so you could have rock.
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  Speaker 2: There's something I don't know if they call that bolt no, no,
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  Speaker 2: but you know, if you have a walkway around the house, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you know. And then there's different zones like after thirty
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  Speaker 2: feet you can do whatever, right, and then there's second
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  Speaker 2: zambers can't jump.
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  Speaker 4: Well well no. But the thing is is like, have
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  Speaker 4: you ever seen like a grass fire, Brian, where it's
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  Speaker 4: moving across the field and it's just it's just burning
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  Speaker 4: as it goes small amounts of grass and it just
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  Speaker 4: travels across the field. And that's what will happen with bults.
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  Speaker 4: It'll light light on fire and then it'll just kind
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  Speaker 4: of smolder all the way. And the reason why firefighters
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  Speaker 4: don't like it is because it's that smoldering. If it's
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  Speaker 4: up next to the house, they can't really put it
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  Speaker 4: out real well. Even when they douse it with water,
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  Speaker 4: it stays. So they kind of scrape it away from
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  Speaker 4: a house because obviously they don't want your house. And
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  Speaker 4: you know, so it's a very good point, very good
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  Speaker 4: point for you know, if you're in a fire throne area.
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  Speaker 3: Which is I just don't want somebody's house burn down
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  Speaker 3: because they put correll.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's sure, that is true.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, And you know, and it's a tough thing because
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  Speaker 4: you know, mulches do do a lot of good for areas,
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  Speaker 4: even in fire areas, like in the sense.
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  Speaker 3: Of keeping they hold moisture in the soil, so that's
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  Speaker 3: not going to be dry.
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  Speaker 4: Is dry, and you know, and like we said it
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  Speaker 4: could you know, actually you know, keep the plants healthier
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  Speaker 4: and full of water so they don't catch as catch
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  Speaker 4: fire as much. So it's a it's a balance, it's
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  Speaker 4: a balance. But I will say mulches are suggested to
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  Speaker 4: be applied you know, every year. You know, these are
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  Speaker 4: not just a one and done item. So if it's
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  Speaker 4: something that you're like, ooh, I apply it in the
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  Speaker 4: middle of winter, by the summer. Maybe it's if you
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  Speaker 4: do a light coat of it. It's it's kind of
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  Speaker 4: gone already.
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  Speaker 3: The other thing we need, Gus is I think a
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  Speaker 3: new topic.
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  Speaker 2: Us.
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  Speaker 3: Oh that's a vippery Oh yeah, Robert and one of
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  Speaker 3: our listeners, just County. Yes, actually I think listen hot Thak.
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  Speaker 3: But he sent this picture.
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  Speaker 4: Golf course.
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  Speaker 2: All right, But did you see the picture Brian and
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  Speaker 2: the tomato? Yeah, yeah, exactly, we looked at that last
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  Speaker 2: week before you put it in the newsletter, because you
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  Speaker 2: have received it. Yeah, I saw, yeah, I saw. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Anyway, his tomato has seeds that have germinated inside the tomato,
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  Speaker 3: and plants are grown.
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  Speaker 2: What do you call that? Call it the do you
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  Speaker 2: call it? Or do you call it? I call it?
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  Speaker 2: There's some.
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  Speaker 3: Uh, some people say vibe which uh at the current
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  Speaker 3: moment is here for me to say.
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  Speaker 2: But it's seeds.
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  Speaker 3: Seeds are plants, uh starting uh on the main part
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  Speaker 3: of them. Yeah, and it's true with a gobby's plants
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  Speaker 3: on the plant.
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  Speaker 5: No.
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  Speaker 4: But but I if I mean, if you want to
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  Speaker 4: go into deeper. I loved the article that you wrote
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  Speaker 4: on it because it explained it. But I mean, the
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  Speaker 4: people need to understand that normally there's what is it called,
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  Speaker 4: what is it hormones or what is it? You're saying
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  Speaker 4: that normally the tomato has this product in there which
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  Speaker 4: suppresses the seed for growing.
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  Speaker 2: It's whacking that and yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And it's black and that. And you said people can
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  Speaker 4: actually cause that to happen by storing it. Yeah, area,
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  Speaker 4: So what was.
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  Speaker 2: It that it's like their natural hormones.
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  Speaker 4: Hormones. There's hormones so that cover the seed that say,
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  Speaker 4: do not start to sprout while growing in the fruit itself.
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  Speaker 4: And this is this is for everything, because this happens
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  Speaker 4: to cantalope.
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  Speaker 2: How about potato? How about potatoes?
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  Speaker 4: Now, potatoes have.
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  Speaker 2: You're not part of the potatoes aren't family? They are? Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but it couldn't it could not happen to a tomato.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sorry potato.
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  Speaker 4: Well, potatoes naturally grow the plants on the outside of.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 4: But no, but this can happen to a lot of
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  Speaker 4: variety of different things. This happens to oranges sometimes.
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  Speaker 2: Right, So the fruit has to be stressed out, so stressed.
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  Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, but you said something in the article in
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  Speaker 4: terms of storing it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, if it's you start in a cool moist condition,
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  Speaker 2: it'll naturally break down that hormone or if it's over right.
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  Speaker 2: You know, if I was if I owned a company
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  Speaker 2: that sells potatoes and I was charge of marketing. But
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  Speaker 2: you know, but you know, if my selling point would
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  Speaker 2: be the eyes, you don't get it. I did get it.
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  Speaker 2: The eyes have it. It's something to work. But no, no,
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  Speaker 2: that's it. There's no working. That's it. It doesn't it
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  Speaker 2: any any polishing up at all. That's it. The hour.
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  Speaker 2: There's no marketing campaign. You're gonna leave right now. That's it.
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  Speaker 2: The eyes have it, all right. You know what you
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  Speaker 2: want to squeeze in that quote? It is yet I'm
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  Speaker 2: not even really a quote. It's more of a blip
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  Speaker 2: on the radar screen. Was quotes from loud Su Chinese
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  Speaker 2: plus that one name or is that too names?
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  Speaker 4: I thought I thought it was loud.
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  Speaker 2: Singer loud Sue And when did loud too live? Lao
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  Speaker 2: Sue allow suit Lao Yeah, low is yes.
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  Speaker 3: Anyways, a Chinese philosopher, and he said that nature does
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  Speaker 3: not hurry get everything.
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  Speaker 2: Ru Yeah, you have to think about those us. All right,
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  Speaker 2: We're going to take a break. Our final segment is
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  Speaker 2: almost in the history this no, no, no, this prior segment, prior, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: the last thing this one here. When we come back,
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  Speaker 2: we have a different from one of our listeners. Ray
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  Speaker 5: Welcome back to the Garden America Radio Show with Brian,
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  Speaker 5: John and Tiger.
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  Speaker 2: on a national level. Now, you did a great tease
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  Speaker 2: before the break. Yeah, do you want to go right
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  Speaker 2: into or I want to do whatever you want to do.
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  Speaker 4: Let's all here for you.
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  Speaker 2: Let's do that.
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  Speaker 3: Right after you explained this is your day to John
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  Speaker 3: from Newport Beach, why we're back hearing.
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  Speaker 2: We're back in studio because during the last couple of
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  Speaker 2: two or three weeks, Tiger's been experimenting with various technological
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  Speaker 2: ways to present the show. We ran into some Wi
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  Speaker 2: Fi problems, We ran into some situations that only only Tiger,
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  Speaker 2: myself and you understand. So after being out for a
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  Speaker 2: companent weeks include me and a mon of roll. What
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  Speaker 2: are you doing here on a roll? What do I
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  Speaker 2: normally say?
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  Speaker 3: My answer always is did you put a new better
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  Speaker 3: so you brought up were So what we're doing.
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  Speaker 2: We're back in studio with a new way to hook
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  Speaker 2: up based upon the experiences and the and the experimentations
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  Speaker 2: we did outdoor.
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  Speaker 4: Very true, and so you're going well for everybody else?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I hope so true.
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  Speaker 3: What you're saying is that our other hookup apps weren't satisfied.
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  Speaker 2: You know what, remember this, when you update one, you know,
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  Speaker 2: one little device, you better update all of the device.
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  Speaker 3: That's good as anyway, back to Robert and Grapevine texts.
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  Speaker 3: He sent us a picture and of a dwarf papai.
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  Speaker 3: Really yeah, and it was growing through the roof of
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  Speaker 3: his greenhouse. I saw that, Yeah, and but did you
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  Speaker 3: see all the papai? Okay, so he was growing it
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  Speaker 3: in a pot in the variety of papai called t
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  Speaker 3: r hov h ov y. And the nice thing about
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  Speaker 3: it is that you can grow that anywhere in a
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  Speaker 3: container and it'll fruit like that in the container. So
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  Speaker 3: I was thinking, like you, Brian on your patio, grow papaya. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: they're supposed to get like I think he said, supposed
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  Speaker 3: to get four to eight.
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  Speaker 2: His was I would say, easily over each. I've never
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  Speaker 2: tried to grow them. You like, yes, you do. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: And it's not something that I think. It's not one
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  Speaker 2: of those fruits that people eat all but it's not
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  Speaker 2: up there with oranges blind one of the best things
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  Speaker 2: for you, right anyway, that t r hovey. I looked
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  Speaker 2: at that picture and you do the same thing, Tiger,
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  Speaker 2: when you see something go I might yes, definitely, Oh yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So we have some new you said, new viewers, new listeners.
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  Speaker 2: This week we had oh my god, well you were
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  Speaker 2: You're talking about the person from Elmerton, Alberta, Alberta, Brian, Brian,
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  Speaker 2: let me know that I should not have put in
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  Speaker 2: by letter Brian to Brian, let me know I should
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  Speaker 2: not have put in Edmonton, Canada.
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  Speaker 3: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada. Right, it's a province. I feel like
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  Speaker 3: San Diego, California, United States.
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  Speaker 2: Right. But anyway, so we have some new people checking in,
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  Speaker 2: you got.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, she sent us a picture of some mister Shams.
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  Speaker 3: You know that Edmonton, Canada, Edmonton, Alberta, Brian has the
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  Speaker 3: largest shopping center in North America.
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  Speaker 2: It's an indoor shopping center, isn't Yeah, yes, that's bigger
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  Speaker 2: than the all of America. It has an amusement park. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so it's it's like another bigger than it's like another
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  Speaker 2: cent like you're in a city with it is. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: By the way, the Mexican government call it them All
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  Speaker 3: instead of them all of America. But what the politicians.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of important things.
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  Speaker 3: You just kind of pointed out Brian that she liked
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  Speaker 3: their nursery setup. Yeah, this makes a lot more sense
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  Speaker 3: with fall and winter coming.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, we're gonna try some different changes because we can
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  Speaker 4: do this at the nursery too. Yeah, so we're to
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  Speaker 4: be able to kind of expand our abilities when it comes.
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  Speaker 2: To and you know what, there's growing pains.
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  Speaker 4: Flexibility is what we're looking forward, right, Yeah, exactly as
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  Speaker 4: we get older.
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  Speaker 2: Important but again with that comes growing pains and certain
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  Speaker 2: things that maybe not work exactly the way you want them,
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  Speaker 2: but then you rebound and come back to the week after.
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  Speaker 4: But it's like gardening, right, that's that's right. You know
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  Speaker 4: you plant something and it doesn't work out.
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  Speaker 2: So what's your what's you're what you're getting at is
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  Speaker 2: at the end of the year, if someone's going to say, John,
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  Speaker 2: how many shows did you kill? These?
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  Speaker 3: The speaking of gardening, Uh, I'm getting a great crop
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  Speaker 3: of are you?
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  Speaker 2: And I like the do you want some?
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  Speaker 3: I asked Shannon last night should I bring Brian a zucchini?
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  Speaker 3: And she said, I'm gonna cut it off freezing.
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  Speaker 2: Fine. You know, you just reminded me she can be
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  Speaker 2: I never brought I never brought you your egg carton
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  Speaker 2: and that was like a month ago. Well, here's what
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  Speaker 2: I did when I was cracking eggs without even thinking,
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  Speaker 2: I cracked that right back in the cart.
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  Speaker 3: And you know what, I'm not saying, who in my
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  Speaker 3: house also that? But that really upsets I know.
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  Speaker 2: It's like you're coming clean, yeah, tossing the trash can.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's a lot easier to recycle that if
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  Speaker 3: you're not going to save the car. I had to
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  Speaker 3: know you can recycle. I've been carrying this burden for
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  Speaker 3: the past month. Ors I'm clean my chest, and I
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  Speaker 3: knew it the first two and I.
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  Speaker 4: Went so so John regarding you as zucchini though, right,
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  Speaker 4: because this was kind of a an experiment. But this
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  Speaker 4: was all very late, really late, right, and you're getting
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  Speaker 4: good production on everything. Yeah, is this going to force
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  Speaker 4: you to be a late gardener? Because like sometimes when
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  Speaker 4: you start early, you deal with more problems.
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  Speaker 2: Right, well, you know what you miss out on, right,
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  Speaker 2: I didn't.
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  Speaker 3: The reason I did did not start early was I
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  Speaker 3: didn't have anywhere to plan, right, and then you made
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  Speaker 3: somewhere for me exactly So had I been I we
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  Speaker 3: planned lettice really was too late and I put in
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  Speaker 3: a heat tolerant let us. But to me, it's a
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  Speaker 3: little gotch. So wait for the cool weather. But other things.
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  Speaker 4: Tomato looked great. Tomato look excellent.
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  Speaker 2: Tomatoes are doing really well.
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  Speaker 4: And normally you would have started those a couple of months,
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  Speaker 4: three months earlier. I don't know about three, but two,
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  Speaker 4: what are we in August, in July, June? I plan
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  Speaker 4: planted them in May. Then when I did, oh, I
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  Speaker 4: thought you planted them in June might have. Okay, so
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  Speaker 4: what about how how hot?
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  Speaker 2: How hot? I can take two right, how hot has
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  Speaker 2: it been in Fallbrooks Because we've had uterally mild temperatures
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  Speaker 2: last couple.
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  Speaker 3: We've had pretty mild temperatures. Tiger pointed out that there's
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  Speaker 3: some ninety degree days coming up towards.
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  Speaker 2: Just when it just seems like I'm going to get
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  Speaker 2: through August.
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  Speaker 4: I love, I mean, it's it's natural. This is this
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  Speaker 4: is not bad.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: But I'm I got bets going. You know, you can
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: anything the weather.
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: This is perfect. But what do you what are you
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: betting that it's.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: I'm betting that that they through the entire end of
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: August it's going to continue to be mild.
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: Well, but what's what is mild in the sense of, you.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: Know, eighty mid to uper ratings?
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: Okay, John normally is hitting triple digits right right now.
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: I rarely ever get trip no not. You've come back
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: and you say I was one O one, one o
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: two in my pleasure. Yeah, but there's less than six
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: of those days the whole year.
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: Okay, So you're in the nineties, so you're in the nine,
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: you're in the nineties, you're in the nineties normal, No,
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: normally in the eighties.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: Okay, this is for Tiger. This is the best time
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: of year for you. Right, Oh yeah, okay, break time
• 19:33
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• 19:47
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• 19:48
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• 19:51
  Speaker 3: actually for me, but Tiger and I was pretty discussing.
• 19:55
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  Speaker 5: Radio, welcome back to the Garden America Radio Show with Brian,
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: John and Tiger.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: That break is over. Back to business now, seriousness, gardening,
• 20:20
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• 20:24
  Speaker 2: and the delve back into the show.
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Paula and Fallbrook. Tiger is asking if I laid
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: the screen under the vegetable area for gopher protection, and
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: we did not.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: But you and I were just.
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: Right yeah, and you were talking about how sometimes I
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: guess when you put in a line, you'll put what
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: do you put under.
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: There's so it's not chicken wire. A lot of times
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: what they'll kind of sell it as is like a
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: construction match, and it's it's a wire match that has
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: square not hexicon.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: Is what chicken wire has really small Usually.
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: It is pretty small. You can die in different sizes.
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: But for gophers. See, the thing with gophers is anything smaller,
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: anything bigger than like a three quarter of an inch
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: size is too big because gophers can kind of get
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: through there, So you kind of have to have it
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: smaller than that. That's why they say you can't even
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: use chicken or gophers too big protection. Yeah, exactly, So
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: it's like a construction screen or construction am but but yeah,
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: so people use it in their lawns to prevent the
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: gophers from getting into their lawns and creating damage.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: So that's what you're gonna do with John Town No,
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: because really.
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: Because the thing with John's beds is John's beds.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: I'm talking about the lawn that you're going to put in.
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: We we talked about it, and the thing that I
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: don't like about that is once it's there, it's it's there. Like,
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: it is not easy to pull up, it is not
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: easy to dig roue. It ends up breaking down eventually
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: and then you have.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean, Like, what do you do
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: about the gophers that start to.
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: Well, that's job, he's got a system.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: But you're gonna wait until you see that first go.
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: Had a gopher hole in months? You know, I I
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: got up to I think it was eighty four gophers.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: So what do you think that's the end of gophers
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: at your place? No, but I you know, now, whenever
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: you see tunnel action can just go through it, right,
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: But you're you're not gonna see the damage until they
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: pop up on the lawn and there's a big mound, right. See.
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: But if anybody is listening that has used any kind
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: of mash material for protective overs, they've laid it in
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: an entire long I would love to hear a report
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: back after five and you see if they regretted it,
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: See if they appreciated it, See what their thoughts.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: Okay, so what are your what are your concerns about that?
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: Well, well, my biggest concern is you know, you you know,
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: if you want to dig in that area against so
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: say so you want to plant a tree. Yeah, say
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: you want to plant a tree in your lawn. Now
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: you have this wire mesh that you dig through. It's
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: not going to be terribly hard, but you've now kind
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: of uh penetrated the force fields, so and you're just
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: providing access. And also it's just metal in there, and
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: like when you're digging, it's going to be sharp point.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: So you're you're what you're what you're saying is if
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: you change your mind you want to want to up
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: trade or do something like planting a tree, there's a problem.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: But if you don't plan on doing it, it's going
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: to be grass for righteve.
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: But who doesn't want to change their minds? Well, yeah, no,
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: exactly is five ten years from now. I mean it's
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: kind of like my thoughts on the weed fabric. People say, oh,
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: I want weed fabric below my rock or below my
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: molt or below the DG to protect from weeds. I
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: say no, because like it's it's just going to be
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: later on, it's going to come up through everything. It's
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: gonna tear, it's gonna rip the weeds. The weed seeds
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: fall on top of the mulch, the rock, the d G.
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: Anyway is start growing from there, you do get a
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: little bit more protection, but I think that the overall
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: problem is bigger with weed barrier down't and there are
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: right places for it, but I'm not a huge advocate.
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: I think that we'd berrier or the mesh is more
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: of a problem now, and that's because people aren't moving
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: as fun there used to be. If you lived in
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: California in a house for five years, that was plenty.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Okay, so uh let's see what was the other.
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: Did we talk about that though? Like, did we answer
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: a question regarding the environment, what.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: Do we find? I don't want people to be hanging
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: on going?
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: You know, they said we did you use the mesh
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: in the beds?
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: No? We did not?
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: Oh, ther answer was no. But but the other reason
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: why we specifically did not use mash in John's bed
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: is that his beds are only really about six inches
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: meaning above the ground. So if we were to put
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: mesh under the would raise it. Well, no, it would
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: have only been six inches blow. So if he would
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: have dig, if he would have planted a one gallon plant,
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: you'd been hitting that.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: Plus there was rock composed granted the that's all right, but.
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: If people were doing like a two foot raised bed
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: or like a you know, something of deep size, like, yeah, you.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: Could use I was gonna mention you gave me some
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: gopher cages cages.
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: From that and they were like a wire mash, like
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: a like a like a suit of armor wire.
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: Man, but very lightweight. Yeah, And we were wondering, what
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: happens plant a tree in there, right, you know, yeah,
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: we felt it would bind the roots.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: I did try it on a fig tree that I've
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: put on my hillside, and gophers love victory, and I
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: thought a go forgot it. But then I started thinking, well,
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: how did the gopher even get in because I've planted
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: it in that mesh bag and it ended up coming
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: back and it's bigger than ever. The roots must have
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: thrown through the crazy. Yeah, the victory now is probably
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: eight to ten feet tall, so it's got surprising. So
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: it's got to have, you know, big roots that went somewhere.
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: So I guess maybe the roots grow right.
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: Through and the damage could have been from gophers because
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: the whole point of the cage is that it protects
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: the core of the plant, and gophers will sometimes nibble
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: out the surrounding roots and it'll die back. But since
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: that core is protected, the plant should come back.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: Sounds like maybe what happened and maybe because I got
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: the gopher after Yeah, it could have been John and Newfirth.
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: Beach says that for him planning early as the gamble
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: and in their community garden, they always have a competition
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: to get.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: The earliest meado.
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: Oh really yeah, a lot of people do that, right
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: when the first meato on your your property. I remember
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: when I lived in Michigan that Billy Martin always wanted
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: to have the first meado.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: Baseball player Billy Martin.
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: Billy Martin and he was manager of the Tigers, used
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: to play well he made it? Okay, Yeah, I can
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: also Oakland, right.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: That must have been his first managerial job, right, No.
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: He came from somewhere else. He came from Oakland, wasn't
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: it Oakland? Wasn't he the one that always used to
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: make his pictures go to complete game?
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: No, that was Dick william Oh that was Dick. That
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: was Dick Williams. Okay, theo William Martin was earlier. When
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: the pictures are struggling out there, leave them out there
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: is almost like a slow death. I'll teach you I'll
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: teach you to pitch correctly. That's right.
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: So anyway, he said, half the people plant way too early,
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: and the tomatoes suffer until the groundworms and.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: They lose time because of planet. Yes, it's true. Right,
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: What about if you're playing planting and planting it early. Well,
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: that made me think about in the past we promoted
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: winter winter tomatoes. Yea, the peachka was one of them,
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: and ye and anything things that sounded cold. Yeah, like Siberia. Man.
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: But anyway, those winter so called winter tomatoes need to
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: be planted now in August. So if you want to
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: have tomatoes in the winter, plant a cold variety tomato early. Girl,
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: is not one of those don't we often talk about
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: people don't don't wait until fall when it's cold.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, start planting.
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: Well, now, well, it depends what you're planning. But the
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: reason you what a winter tomato is is a tomato
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: that will set fruit when nighttime temperatures are in the
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: thirties and forties, where regular tomatoes will not fruit when
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: it's that cold. But no tomato grows when cold. So
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: you want to plant the winter tomatoes now so that
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: they will get a lot of growth on them. So
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: come fall they'll be large enough to flower and fruit
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: or come winter. And again for listeners around the country,
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: we're talking about San Diego, we're not talking about our
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: new friend in Edmonton.
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: And one of the most important things to also stand
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: too is the root development tomatoes super you know, because
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: we were just talking about that big a fig tree
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: can have like a pretty mild root growth and it's
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: actually a pretty good freaking big leaves and look big
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: and then you knock it over and there was no
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: root system too, right, But like it's tomato, it requires
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: I mean, we talk about it. It requires a fifteen
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: gallon bucket just to be able to produce it. So
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: it needs to have that much root map. And like
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: they were saying, if the roots don't grow, even though
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: the plant's growing, then it still won't produce.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: Break time one more segment until the top of the
• 30:36
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• 30:39
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• 30:41
  Speaker 2: We are back in the studio. You're John, Tiger and Ryan.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: Where we go with the break came back actually.
• 30:46
  Speaker 5: Basic Welcome back to the Garden America Radio Show with Brian,
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: John and Tiger Okay.
• 31:23
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• 31:26
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• 31:29
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• 31:30
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• 31:32
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• 31:35
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• 31:37
  Speaker 2: for bistalk Radio. You and I are the confusir brain
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: are both over the hill. I don't know about tiger
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: over the hill. I'm not even I haven't even started
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: climbing the hill you talking about. It's always been a
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: late bloom. You gotta you don't still wear those where those.
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: Hey, I got a question for John, so I the victory.
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: Things you do it too? Say y vippory way by
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: vippery where you're gonna forget seconds where the plants from
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: the fruit brows within the fruits.
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: Uh you know, kind of a on another part of
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: the plant in the case of a god, because it
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: can be a plant.
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: Okay, So number one does it change? Like is that
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: tomato you know, as you just put in the newsletter,
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: that one that had little and it was a tomato
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: fruit and then it had little tomato seeds growing all
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: out sprouting out of it? Does that make it taste
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: just horrible?
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: No, you can still eat You can still eat the fruit, right,
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: As a matter of fact, you can eat the tomato sprouts.
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you know, sprouts are what happens, are
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: just small, so just keep growing. Wait a minute, I'm
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: getting them getting there. I'm like, I'm thinking, like, we
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: gotta we have a new level of things that we
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: can do here. Yeah, where what if we took a tomatoato?
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: You know you you spearheaded the whole ketchup and frize, right, Okay,
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: So what if we took a tomato and started embedding
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: other seeds into it? Would they begin to grow out
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: of that tomato too? Where just we have one tomato
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: and then out of that tomato we can have like
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: a little cilantro. Now, and that all you do is
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: you take this one tomato, drop it into a pot,
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: put it in a blender.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: And what are you talking about other tomatoes or different
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: different he wo stay up salsa and one fruit?
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: Yes, Like, can you imagine you go into the store
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: and you've got this big, beautiful tomato and in that
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: tomato it has a cilantro growing out of it. It's
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: got a little bit of like chives growing out of
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: it and everything else. You just take that one plant
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: and throw it into a blender.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: See. So, I'm thinking about when you introduce a foreign
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: substance into your body, it's not your own blood or
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: your own organs, that there's a rejection. Would there be
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: a rejection from that tomato?
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: Tomato is water, It's just a sunflower seed inside the metato,
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: and it would Germany.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, right, but we haven't. I mean, but I've never
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: you want in other words, you want to do this.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: I want to do this.
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: How do I inject seeds into a tomato without breaking
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: without because that's the whole thing to you. The reason
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: why this works is because it's from the inside out
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: right right. If I were to puncture the tomato, it
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: would begin to decay.
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: Right so, and the tomato is going to decay anyway.
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: By the time the other things are Germans immature, the
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: tomato would be long gone.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: I'm thinking, yeah, and I can do this. I would
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: say if it was water, if it was a watery substance,
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: you could just poke it right and it wouldn't It
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: wouldn't create a big hole.
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: Well, I'm trying to think of a nice way of
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: putting this, but just put it. It's silly.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: You guys are being silly.
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: Hey, I know where you're going catch friz was silly.
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, silly as ketchup in fries was. I think that
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: I made more money off that than you would make
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: off your idea.
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: But yeah, go ahead and try it. I mean, luk,
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: it's the way to introduce it because it comes from within.
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: We mentioned that Luther Burbank was the first one to
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: graft tomatoes and potatoes. He did it backwards at first,
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: where he grafted a potato plant onto a tomato roots.
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: That's yeah, even I know that Luther Burbank was. It
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: was a very impressive person.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: We we've talked about how Henry Ford and Thomas Ettisen
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: visited Burbank in Santa Rosa because he was so well
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: respected time, so in a native and everything that the.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: Innovative minds want to hang around. Yeah, well that's what
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: that's all about.
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: And it really comes down to if you really think
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: about science, biology is actually like light years ahead of
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: all the other science because it's it's nature and you know,
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: just like your quote, not in a rush, but it
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: all works itself out. And so nature's been doing science
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: for so much longer than we have, so it understands
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: when things work, when things don't. Restrictions all of that. So,
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: you know, I think that's where we you know, we
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: talk about like a lot of our medicine, where does
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: it come from plants? You know, a lot of our
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: all of our food, you know, besides animals, but even
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: then they depend on plants.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: Or are you saying that God's plan is always better? Yes? Right,
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: No matter what we do, all we tend to do
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: is get in the way.
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: The answers are there.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: We just have to look for him in nature exactly exactly,
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: you know. So, so you're right about about all these
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: medicines and things that come from you know, the plant world.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: And I think they're even doing experiments on uncancer research
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: as it pertains to sharks. Really yeah, because I don't
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: think could be wrong, but I don't think sharks get cancer.
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: There's something, there's something within the shark itself that prohibits it.
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: So everything is right there.
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: It's high mercury, diet, mercury.
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: Some way to hear about mercury anymore. We're still hearing
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: about Venus and Mars, not mercury.
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: But yeah, so no, I think that, you know, the
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: Burbank like being involved with nature so much and understanding fans.
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: You can understand this as far as water filterration, air filterrace, energy, boo,
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: all of that.
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: John points out that his brother in Oregon, Oregon, Oregon,
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: I was reading, Yeah, do you remember? I can't offer
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: the subject of Perry Como. I think it was Perry
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: Como that's sang the song about where his aura gone? Yeah,
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: Perry Perry just she went to pay her taxes. Oh
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: remember the play on words now? But it's all the states,
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: like what did Delaware?
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: Boys?
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: What did Delaware? He wore a brand new jersey. I
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: think it was Perry Como, either Perry Comb or Dean Martin. Anyway,
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: taker's probably never heard that song.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah I don't. I don't remember it. Remember those called
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: to play on words? Plan anyway, we got about a minute,
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: not less than a minute.
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: Well, anyway, John says, whenever his brother in Oregon, Brian Oregon, uh,
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: did he curses Luther Burbank whenever he sees the huge
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: roadside BlackBerry kimmelay and blackberries? But that happened mistake. You
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: know who was a David Fairchild. The Florida swamps are
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: infested with Mela luca because he brought that over in California.
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: We can grow Mela luca because.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: Not a problem. But in the Everglades, Brian, it's a problem.
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: We've got to take a quick great news top of
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: the hover coming up on bis Talk Radio. After that,
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: it's more regard than ericad Welcome back. If you're tuned
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: in on Bisktalk Radio. This is the very beginning of
• 39:54
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• 39:57
  Speaker 2: You can always go to our Facebook page and go
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• 40:04
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• 40:07
  Speaker 2: You can always catch up and find out where we
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: are and what you missed. So there you go. We
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: are back on Facebook Live and the second hour in
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: distance first hour was full of a lot of gardening. Yeah,
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: we didn't talk sports, We didn't drift off into some
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: esoteric area. We pretty much stuck to the game plan.
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: You know what I was just thinking about right now
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: before we started. You know, it's August and in what
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: what you were doing in the garden what people are planting.
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: And you know, for us it's it's nothing because it's
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: but for us here in San Diego. And yeah, the
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: garden center, I mean it's just a lot. Well you
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: always have a lot.
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: Last week I was admiring what was that Japanese rose
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: that we were staring at. It was right in front
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: of us on the table that you did a hard
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: prune had Japanese name. It was right in front of me.
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I brought it on camera, and well in
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: front of us is the Japanese garden that you created.
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: Against had a Japanese named.
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: In the Japanese name you called it You're Japanese.
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no no. It was a cross
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: right in front and it's a Japanese zero leaves. You
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: did a hard You had something that looked good. It
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: looked like a bear. Rude. No no, this is my point.
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: That was there you go Kaga yaki. So so my
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: point it all depends on how you look at something.
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: I look at that as like, that looks so good
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: because I envisioned what it's going to become. To me,
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: that looked like somebody just got out of the barbershop.
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: With a haircut, and and you're gonna look a little
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: better in a week. But look at you, and I
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: want to go home and do I didn't do it,
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: but I really it inspired me to go cut my
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: roses back, like, oh yeah, that would be a good
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: time do it for a fall blow. Yeah. I thought
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: it looked really good. I really did. But that's gonna
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: look now. Now you've got before and afters, So give
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: it what six weeks? What will it look like in
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: six week? Full full blown? Six ways from that in
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: six weeks. That's a huge you know, but what a metamorphos, right,
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: it's called the butterfly effect, the caterpillar.
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: But there are places in the world where August is spring, right,
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: you know in terms.
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: Of whats hey, tiger's stopped at the equator.
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what I'm saying, Like, you know, so
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: I wonder where where in the world people will get
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: excited to plant because it's August.
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: Well, August in the southern hemisphere is the same, yees,
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: so it's still win but but it's building.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: Up the spring.
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: But it's building up, so they're getting January built.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you're right, Okay, how about tell our.
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: Friend in Edmonton just thinking about planning in January. Here's
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: an idea. We take the twelve months of the year.
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: So like in California, the month of August, what should
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: you be doing planning murdered iris? Okay, if you're gonna play,
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: if you want bearded iris to bloom next year, they
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: need to be planted in August. And if you have
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: bearded iris, you need to divide, you need to do it. Okay.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: Now take August and if you live in Nebraska, what
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: should you be doing. You know, you should be stocking
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: up your woodpile. And so what I'm saying is and
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: then you get to September, what should each state be
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: doing in terms of.
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: Gardens And a lot of cold areas planned pennies fall
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: really so yeah, so that they'll over winter and so
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: they'll bloom the following Yeah, because plant penies in the
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: springing up year.
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: But I think the other thing, you know, as far
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: as different parts of the world when the different months,
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: like you're saying, Brian, is also just different different cultures,
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: like you know you just mentioned.
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: Here to Irish.
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: You know, we can talk about tulips and you know,
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: all kinds of other rightes of plants that are very
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: seasonal to wherever people live, and you know where we
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: don't experience that because they don't grow here. And you know,
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: I mean, you know, as we get into the fall,
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: we talk about planting California natives because it's a great
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: time to plant the California natives. You get them established
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: through the winter, so by next summer they're established. You
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: don't have to worry about them as much. And they're
• 44:45
  Speaker 4: growing and developing. You know, that's our that's our tulip,
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: that's our our p and e so to speak. You know,
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: but you know other places where you know, you know
• 44:59
  Speaker 4: John Minch and you know the peenies, Like that's exciting
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: to be like, hey, I'm planting this now for next
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: We don't have too much of that besides maybe wildflower seeds,
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: because we don't have a lot of bulb like a
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: lot of we have fair roots season not really though,
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: like I think other places have a bunch better berries.
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: California was the biggest berries.
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: Grower.
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: But do you think the season, yeah.
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: Because other I don't.
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: Well, it depends what what you're talking about fair roots,
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: but I don't think other parts of the country half
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: the wide selections that we put in caln California used
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: stay up shrubs shrubs.
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, but you.
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: Can get a shorter amount of time with the station
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: to play.
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: Well I'm getting what I'm getting at is like when
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: when rose growers were going through their fields and bear
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: rooting roses, they weren't they weren't dormant, you know, they
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: weren't like they were still like having the defoliate of
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: all the other stuff.
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: Right, but they were all harvested at the same time. Right.
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: So if you if you have a bear root rose
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: in California, it's harvested in December, you can go ahead
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: and plant it, right, it comes to the nursery, but
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: if it's another part of the country, it has to
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: be held in cold storage.
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they ship them in Like you're saying that May April,
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: you know, or April they show up in the nursery's
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: back east.
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so yeah, I mean, you know, it's just it's
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: August is one of those weird and then August and
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: September are kind of like those weird months were gardens
• 46:46
  Speaker 4: and then I kind of feel people get excited again.
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: End of September October is a very exciting month of gardening.
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: Then I think November just gets grouped in with Christmas.
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: Kind of.
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: November and December are all one month for I think gardner.
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: Carla mentions she's trying not to buy any just right
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: now or in general.
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: I think she's saying because water water bill is oh yeah,
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: first of all, yeah, that's something you got with Idaho
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: because they don't have water bills in Idaho, at least
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: when they live off the runoff. No, I think it's free.
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: I don't think my daughter has a water I could
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: be wrong.
• 47:33
  Speaker 4: You gotta pay something, Okay, they got to put the pipes.
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: Water bill.
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: Our friend Diane, who lives outside of Boise, Nampa, as
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: a day of the week where she opens up the
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: dyke and floods her entire yard. Yeah that's really a minute,
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: just a personal dyke.
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: There's there are areas where they're kind of like rural
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: farmlands where what do they call them, the water master
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: and they like give you certain days where you can
• 48:09
  Speaker 4: you can divert the there's always like a stream running
• 48:11
  Speaker 4: in front of your house.
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, right, okay, so you can tap into it.
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: Certain days of the week you can tap into it
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: and then water, you're property.
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: That's good.
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, it's great, right, that's that's that's that's lovely,
• 48:23
  Speaker 4: that there are areas where there's always water.
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: I've never heard you say the word of lovely. No,
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: it's the first time I've ever heard him say.
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: There when I said it lovely?
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: You know? What is it that they always said in
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: and when we were in English? We never brilliant? Well? Yeah,
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: my brother when he lived in England for a while
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: again married in English. He worked in advertising over there.
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: He came back and everything was brilliant. It's brilliant, brilliant,
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: like I once good. I'm not sure really, really, what
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: do you mean? Is it intelligence? Yeah? Exactly. It's like
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: it's like, when's the last time you used the word darling? Hey, darling? No,
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: but isn't that isn't that flower? Darling? Isn't that not
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: your wife? Women tend to use the word more than
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: than men do. I never say I remember in the uh,
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: when's the last time Shannon said that's really bitch? I
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: know thanks she ever said that?
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: The I do remember though, when we were always the
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: hippie era and of the sixth.
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: Sixty seven to seventy four, maybe we got a break
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: coming up. That's gonna be a good story. Don't don't
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: lose your saying thought no no, no, no, Hippi each
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: other hip hip. Okay, you're gonna take a break for
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: Bistalk Radio back with John's Hippie Days sixty seven to
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: seventy four story they wouldn't start Americans. Okay, we are
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: right back this talk radio Facebook Live the Hippie Days.
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: John harkening back to that time for me, Avocado writ
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: exact all that speaking of macrimon my wife, don't you
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: don't know, don't no, don't you're gonna lose thot.
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: She made macrime on television. Yeah, it's a television show
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: making Detroit, remember that in those days. Took back to
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: your story, Carol Devaul. You can remember Carroll Devaal, but
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: he can't remember.
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: Last segment. What were we talking about?
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we were just talking about how they used
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: different words and and so we were in my friends
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: b w Van.
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: Of course, you were a bunch of people with the
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: big flowers on the side, and.
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: There were some people from England who were visits that
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: were there there with us, and my my friend's girlfriend
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: was looking at something I don't know what it was,
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: and uh, the people from England pointed it out to
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: her and she goes, oh wow, that's neate and they
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: just burst out laugh and what's what are you laughing?
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: Because do you mean it's tight? Yeah? Yeah, did you
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: ever use the word if something was really cool? Like
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: oh that's just oh yeah, wicked? Wicked? Never used the
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: keen went to that music And there's probably it's probably
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: original vernacular because when I was a kid surfers the
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: waves are really bitch. You gotta go see it. Really,
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: it's really righteous, really right. We never used that, No,
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: I never, I wouldn't think.
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: Definitely definitely regional.
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: Words, yeah, exactly.
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: Anyway, on the way home from Joe last week, I
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: went to Home Deepo and bought some on.
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: The way home from you already we were already you
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: were home last You were at your house last week
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: when we did the show.
• 53:03
  Speaker 4: You didn't have to leave. So from the backyard to
• 53:07
  Speaker 4: your sliding glass door, there's a home depot.
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, ah, you know what.
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: I came to San Diego in the middle of it,
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: and on the way home I stopped at Home people
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: and got ten bags of that black mault.
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: Oh the Yeah, my wife likes the black. It doesn't
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: look bad. It's fine. Yeah. Anyway, it's like volcanic rock.
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: It's a it's a good foil. If you had some
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: bright colors with it, then you like, look not no
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: leave roses, right exactly.
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: Well, I'm the front bed is the my wife's pink
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: and white bed, so it's pink and white.
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: Shot. Yeah.
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: So I got ten bags and I put down the
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: wheat preventter first and then put the sun top and
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: I did half the gardens. So on the on the
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: way back from the show today, I'm going to get
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: another ten bags and hopefully I can finish the other half.
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: But the point was the last shipment they had trying
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: to think of the common tiger, it's pentus.
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: What's the common name is that Egyptian starflower? I was
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: gonna say starflower.
• 54:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they're not from me, but there's a few other starflowers.
• 54:27
  Speaker 4: And I can't remember the like you're saying, where.
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: Anyway, pentis and yeah, which they had these wonderful butterflies.
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah they had, and.
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: They had plants that had or pots that had I
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: think there were five plants in there, and they were
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: different colors and one was red, which I cannot put
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: in the pink and white gardens, but the others were
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: white and paink so I I just separated that fot rather. Yeah,
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: then they creating and they like the heat. They do
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: really well during Speaking of.
• 55:05
  Speaker 4: The heat, are you concerned at all that the black
• 55:08
  Speaker 4: bull is going to make the bed hotter?
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: Yes?
• 55:16
  Speaker 4: You think so?
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: You don't think.
• 55:19
  Speaker 4: You don't think with all the science that proves that
• 55:21
  Speaker 4: black absorbs more heat, that you're creating a hotter situation
• 55:26
  Speaker 4: for you.
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: Do you throw any plants in the nursery and black? Yes,
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: and and and it talks about like they've You're not
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: worried they're all going to die.
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: Well, hopefully they don't last there for more than.
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: A black container surrounds them. I saw a couple of
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: plants that I remember from last year. A black container
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: surrounds the plant. But but what heat we're talking about
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: is actually buried within them.
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but surrounding the plant is going to be a
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: lot worse because there's nowhere.
• 55:54
  Speaker 4: For those nur also in Mission Hills compared.
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: To we'll get a trimper meter it though, I think
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: you have in your mind that it's like, no, it's.
• 56:06
  Speaker 4: But I mean what I'm getting at is like it's
• 56:09
  Speaker 4: seventy FISHI and hills when it's eighty five.
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: Why don't you test to test the ground, the temperature
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: of the ground compared to the rest of the perriers.
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: You don't have them because I don't really want to
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: waste this.
• 56:21
  Speaker 4: He doesn't want to be proven wrong. He doesn't want
• 56:22
  Speaker 4: to be proved wrong.
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: You don't have an answer for it. No.
• 56:26
  Speaker 4: Wait, okay, so Brian, here's the next time we go
• 56:28
  Speaker 4: up to John's house. Okay, you know he has this
• 56:30
  Speaker 4: like slope. There's no molts on it, there's no I'm
• 56:33
  Speaker 4: going to bring my little thermometer, my laser thermometer. I'm
• 56:37
  Speaker 4: gonna shine it there, and I'm gonna shine it on
• 56:39
  Speaker 4: the black molds. And I think the black moles will
• 56:42
  Speaker 4: be hotter.
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: I would too. Yeah, he's looking up right.
• 56:45
  Speaker 4: And I'm not saying it's worse sometimes keeping judgment, sometimes
• 56:50
  Speaker 4: keeping the soil warm is actually better.
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: You know, without being sarcastic, that I have to really
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: watch myself because you know I have a ten you
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: you are always mentioned I have tendance, never sarcastic, and
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: and I.
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: Really it's something I work on the black males. Oh yeah,
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: the UH started thinking, so when you leave here, who
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: watches after? If you're by yourself? My mind just went to,
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: I really need to be a better person.
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: I could try harder. But the mulch is covering the ground,
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: holding the moisture. Yes, and the oyster's gotta automatically help
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: cool lower the temperature and keep the roots cool. And
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: roots like as long as there's moisture available, they like
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: warm temperature.
• 57:42
  Speaker 4: I know, That's what I'm saying.
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. I mean, look at the tropics
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: right now.
• 57:45
  Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. Warm soil is beneficial for the
• 57:50
  Speaker 4: most part. I mean, I think in most of the
• 57:53
  Speaker 4: problem areas people are combating keeping their soil warm.
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: Well, back back to what.
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  Speaker 3: You're saying, if I lived in Palm Springs that I
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: reconsider black might.
• 58:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, or like black Mexican beach pebble, you know what
• 58:07
  Speaker 4: I mean, like compared to like an Arizona river rock.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. But in Fallbrook problem we have. I don't thought
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: it was a problem. Just was it? What was the
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: ground actually warmer in other areas that didn't have it?
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: Don't know, don't judge is one of the least And
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: what in what burns the flowers in buliage on a road?
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: You know, like is it the intense intense sunlight or
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: is it in the intense heat? Is it like the
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: sunlight on top of it?
• 58:43
  Speaker 4: Because I mean, like that's the thing, right, Like intense.
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: Sunlight doesn't hurt plants because look at the look at
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: the traffics where the sunlights in. But you have humidity, yeah,
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: and cooler temperatures, so it's got to be a comedy.
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: So it's I think it's definitely the heat. Especially I
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: have a lot of wind where I start too. And
• 59:06
  Speaker 3: if you have hot drive, that are that's going to
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: create his break shot.
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're pulling the uh moisture up the leak. Speaking
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: of hot air, We're going to continue to my so
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: do stay with us. This is Garden America taking a
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: break from biscotr. Okay, two more segments this when John
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  Speaker 2: You'll be happy to know it is the longer of
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: the next two coming up, So twenty of time to
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: forget more things.
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  Speaker 3: Well, that'll give Tiger time to answer Lamar's all right,
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: let's do it Canyon Country, right, she's got some dragon fruit. Well,
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 3: actually maybe she was the one who asked that she's
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 3: talking about dragon fruit.
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  Speaker 2: But now I'm starting to we're going to what was
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: actually Veronica going back to Veronica now from Canyon Country
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: to Spring Valley. But isn't Veronica moving?
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but she's not moving to Canyon Country stand in
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 3: Spring Valley anyway?
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  Speaker 2: How do I remember? All?
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  Speaker 3: She's got four cuttings of dragons, okay, and she wants
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: to know out of plant all right, They're just cutting.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: Just cuttings.
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  Speaker 4: So like most cuttings, it'd be nice for you to
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  Speaker 4: let them, which is about four or five days in
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  Speaker 4: a cool, dark area where you just let that cutting
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 4: heel before you plant it. That just helps decrease a
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 4: little bit of rot. And then for the dragon fruit,
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 4: it's best to plant it in a very well draining
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 4: soil medium, you know, like a cactus like a cactus mix,
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 4: or like a really well draining potting steel.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: Don't go to buy.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 4: I'm getting, don't go don't go well, no, don't go
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 4: buy that moisture retaining miracle grow potting like nothing. Well,
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 4: that's what I'm saying. Like even like like John's a
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 4: super big advocate of ocean for us love the product
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 4: rate recipe for twenty from uh eb Stone wonderful products.
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  Speaker 4: But they're all designed to retain moisture, right, and you
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 4: can rot out your cutting by planting those in there.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 4: And what John mentioned, a steak is critical because you
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 4: what happens is when it starts to set those little
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 4: baby roots out from the bottom, if it falls over,
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 4: begins to move those begin to break, it just keeps
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 4: delaying the overall like cutting time that it takes to
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 4: really establish itself. So if you can keep it secure
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 4: and like we said, like the problem with a lot
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 4: of the sweat meetings we talked about is they're very loose,
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 4: so they're not going to hold the plant in it.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 3: And you don't want to put the cutting too fire
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 3: in the style because there's a better chance of the rotting.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 4: What do you think, like an inch or two?
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: Not even that much, I would say half inch to
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: an inch just.
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  Speaker 4: Barely, yeah, barely putting it in the but there's.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: No way it'll stand up. So like you said, you've
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: got to have a steak. Same thing with like Bloomeria cutting.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: You know one thing that I saw somebody doing. I
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: have this neighbor that does a bunch of dragons there.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: They their whole backyard is dragon like. It's weird.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 4: They built this whole structure, you know, like the vagina
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 4: umbrellas with the dragon fruit on them. And you know
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 4: what they did. You know those I think you talked
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 4: about this a week or two ago. Keep planted. You
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 4: remember those tall, narrow citrus cans. Yeah, okay, I think
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 4: you recently planted one in some planted Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 4: So it's these very tall How tall was yours? Was
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 4: it one of the big ones, like about of fourteen
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 4: or sixteen inches?
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  Speaker 2: Okay?
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 4: But they're real narrow only like maybe like a six
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 4: inch one gallon can, but like a cylinder. What they
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 4: would do is put the soil at the bottom of
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 4: that and they would just drop the dragon fruit in
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 4: there and then that way it's rooted, but the the
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 4: can is holding it all up, versus like what you're
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 4: saying putting a steak. They just put it in this
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 4: very tall, narrow nursery key, let it root, and then
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 4: once it rooted, then they could just pop it out it.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: Give me your favorite real quick. If you went on
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: your phone before I describe something that may not be true,
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: show me a picture of a dragon. You don't know
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: what it looks like. I think I do, and I
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: don't think.
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  Speaker 4: I like, they're pink and they have like scales.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: They're not white with dark seeds on them.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the inside.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so I'm on the right track. Yeah, I think
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: when I when I've tried it in the past, do anything. Yeah,
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: what about you? I like him.
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  Speaker 4: There's a lot of varieties of dragons.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, So maybe maybe it's just a variety I
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: tried it was maybe that, but John showed bee I
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: just didn't do anything for me.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: They have pink flesh, right, But does that change the flavor? Yeah,
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 3: summer sweeter, Some are kind of mild.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: I like those little Yeah. Just the taste to me
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: wasn't it didn't It wasn't very inspiring, And maybe it
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: was just it wasn't sweet enough. Dragon. You know what's
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: interesting about dragons.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 3: If there's the other name for dragon, pataia, is it?
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: I don't know I was gonna say about dragons, John,
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: is that in all parts of the world, in different
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: countries and time before we had you know, mass communication
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: with each other. If there's drawings of dragons, almost all
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: of the world.
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  Speaker 3: You know that in my library, I have a fantasy
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 3: section and I've got all my horticulture books, those books
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 3: that fantasy okay, and then there's a fantasy section and
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 3: I had, like, I have one shelf that has Game
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 3: of Thrones on all those books and then some other
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 3: books that Robin Hobbs wrote about dragons. And online on Amazon,
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 3: I found this this bookend that is a dragon point
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 3: just his head with its law coming out, you know
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 3: that would hold books, and it's on the shelf.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: You bought it. I bought it and put it up there.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 3: And yesterday my son came over and we were playing
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 3: three handed Knuckles and Jesse looked at it and said, wow,
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 3: that's really cool. Shannon looked at and get that.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't really mention when I ordered it,
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: but I really like who notices change in your house?
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: We it subtle. For major you were your wife.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 3: If it's outside, they noticed very people noticed very little.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 3: I noticed every every little thing. If somebody picked up
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 3: a plant and what there's fifteen hundred pots of roses,
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 3: if someone moved it from one space to another.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I noticed subtle changes. I can put something, I
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: can hang a picture or do something in the house.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: It maybe three or four days later we're I'll say, hey,
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: notice what I did last week? Oh yeah, it's nice.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 3: Well, my wife has started to notice things with our
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 3: vegetable garden, especially she's out there more. Well, yeah, she'll
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 3: go out and she'll see, you know, are the tomatoes right?
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 3: Maybe marinara sauce.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: The other day.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 3: Yet I really thought it was good, So she's looking
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 3: for that. Just wants, you know, zecchini creep up on you. Brian,
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 3: if you don't watch.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: Do you remember years ago you had us over for
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: dinner at your house prior to this, remember what I said?
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: And and Dana and I were like, gosh, this is
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: just this is the best meal ever. And we assumed
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: Tiger that if John cooked it, you know, like from scratch,
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: did cook it, but from scratch. But John was very forthcoming,
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: and he said, that's Bertolini for Tollys for tolis or whatever. Yeah,
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: And from that moment on we continued.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 4: To bum yeah, oh buddy, you took his Italian card away.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: But it had shrimp. I think I think I think
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: it might have had shrimp, not sure, but because they
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: have several varieties. Yeah, but this goes back I don't know,
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: ten years or whatever it was to this day when
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: we grocery shop, we make sure to buy it all
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: because of you. It's so easy too write. You just
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: dump it in a pan, yeah, melt and hand to go.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: And if you told people that I spent most of
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: the day making this, and believe you it's like this.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 4: I had this friend who's Italian, and she used to
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 4: talk about her possas so delicious. She'd always be so
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 4: critical whenever we got of course Italian food, right, Italians
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 4: have a tendency, yes, And so I remember one time
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 4: for two of her house cookie and her mom used
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 4: like some like just like mosta sauce out of a
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 4: can like ragoo, Yeah exactly, And I was like, I
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 4: was all excited to come over.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: And have this like home with your girlfriend at the time.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 4: No, no, it's just a thread, but I was all
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 4: excited to have this wonderful home cooked Italian. She'd been
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 4: talking she she'd been talking up her mom's cooking so much,
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 4: and I was excited to come over.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: And like, was she aware that her mother used dormall?
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 4: So I don't necessarily think her mom used it all
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 4: this time, like meaning like I think that she did
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 4: grow up with her mom cooking sauce. I think it
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 4: was just she's having people over. She didn't want to
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 4: maybe do the whole like, I mean, what is a
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 4: what does the pasta sauce usually take?
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: Like a day?
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 4: Like, don't you have to like started in the morning.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 3: The world's best, that's that's sat right. But I make
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 3: really good takes. You know what I make that's really good?
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 3: That that I envisioned myself selling it.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: You know his tartar.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 4: You make a tartar sauce, but it's with things you
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 4: have in your cupboard already, right, Well, that isn't it
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 4: just like Mayo eggs and vinegar or something different?
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: What is the Mayo part? Okay, scream of ard. No,
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: I don't. I don't like what is well it could
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: be you know that that mine's a bit sweeter because
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: I put relish. Okay, okay, so if you go to
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: the store, some of those are like not quite as
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: sweet if.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 4: You get sweet or you can get right.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: It's Brian's world famous charter sauce. I gotta pick it.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: This is that's my marketing. No, that's my marketing fantasy.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: Brian's world famous problem. I love that what people say
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: world famous, you know, But anyway, you gotta take a break,
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: all right, So much of my charter sauce back after
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: these message messages, final mess I'm not christ ready to
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: go the final segment. Hey, this is almost like going
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: to Mars. We're hoping you get back home safely.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 4: We're going to make this one of the.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: So right now we're we're coming back home from Mars,
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: and we're right around the moon, so which means we
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: have two hundred and fifty thousand miles to go between
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: the Moon and New York.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 4: You will, now you were watching that Matt Damon movie,
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 4: weren't you, well that that Marcia Marsha.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: That's just a silly analogy.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 3: By the way, Paula in not Paula me Lisa in
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 3: reading Grease with Tiger, because yeah, I'm not using black
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 3: mault here in readings, but readings you know, a.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: Little hotter, yeah, a lot hotter. I think it looks
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: good though, but I like the way that if you
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: had like different variations of colors right on top of
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: it would look it would really have a stark contrast.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: We when you get to variation with flower petals.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 4: And you know what's so funny is people's people's vision
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 4: of multch and what it does to the garden. I was,
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 4: I was driving through. I was driving through. Uh, I
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 4: was up. I was up north.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: In Escondido and that's if you're John, that's south. Yeah.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And and I saw this guy laying down brown
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 4: so you know, there's the black, brown and red mulches
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 4: like that were describing, and he was laying down brown
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 4: bags of it over old brown mulch in his front yard.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 4: And it really did make it pop a lot, right,
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 4: I mean I could see the clear line between here's
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 4: the old, here's the new, and I mean this was
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 4: a big area. This was like a whole front yard
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 4: he was doing. And you know, it just made me
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 4: think like at some point in time he drove up
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 4: to his house and was like that that brown mulch
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 4: looks old. I'm gonna get new and put it over
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 4: my whole yard.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: And where you're driving, bio, you stopped to observe this.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 4: No, No, I'm just driving by it because I mean,
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 4: you know, I mean it was a big air. I
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 4: can see you when.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: You're driving in traffic and you're looking at no, no, no,
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: this was through like a neighbor.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 4: Okay, okay, but you know, at some point in time
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 4: he was like, this weekend or this week, I'm gonna
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 4: make my because he was doing it out of a
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 4: back of like a mini man. So he's like, I'm
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 4: gonna make my twenty trips to the store to buy
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 4: ten bags of time to start laying over this whole area.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 4: And you know, but it did look nice. It did
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 4: look nice.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: But but you know, after a while, you kind of
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: get used to the way it looks because it fades
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: over time. It's like this last week, I had to
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: get a new what do you call those things that
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: plastic over the rug that your chair slides on, Matt,
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: like a plastic mat when you're on carpet, so that
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: your office chair will slide. Yeah, So I had i
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: because it was cracking years of use. So this is
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: in my office. So I removed it and I will
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 2: wait put and under under the under the under the
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: uh the rug underneath there was like brand new. Yeah,
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: and I'm looking around.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 4: Going when you move the couch, yeah, it's like I didn't.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: The rug looks good, but not like this because this
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 2: is like brand new because it had the plastic matt
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: over for all these years, and I'm like, well, there's
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: nothing I can really do. I mean, I'm not going
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: to bring it to look like the rug looks like
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: it's like we have. John is responsible for us having
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: bamboo hardwood floors because when I was redoing the house
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: and renovating years ago, John said, oh, you got to
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: consider bamboo floors, so I did. But we have area
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: rugs over a lot of So when you remove the
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: area rugs, you go, oh, that's what the floor used
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 2: to look like, very bright and shiny, and over time
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: it dulls. So this guy that you're talking about, unless
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: he had something to compare it with, you kind of
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: get used to the way it looks, yes, and you
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: don't realize when you do what he did, this is
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: what it's supposed to look right now. Is that because
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: of rain, weather, sun, all the elements, all of it affects.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 4: It and leaves like it was in an area where
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 4: there's trees, so you know, obviously there's dropping down into
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 4: that multch and which will also make it look a
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 4: little bit not as clean. I will say, though, the
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 4: other thing that I don't agree with with that mulch
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 4: is that it doesn't break down as quickly, which is
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 4: you know, to some people that's what it's designed for.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 4: It would have been better for him to rake out
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 4: the old stuff, remove it and put down the news
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 4: up because now he's just piling wood chips upon wood
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 4: chips upon wood chips, and you know, over time that's
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  Speaker 4: not the best thing.
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  Speaker 2: So would you say it's worth if you didn't want
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  Speaker 2: to do that, it's just worth it to hire someone
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  Speaker 2: and take all the old up put the new in.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, definitely.
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  Speaker 2: You know, kind of the older you get, you realize
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  Speaker 2: I'm just going to pay someone to do this. I
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  Speaker 2: don't want to. It depends on what you're feeling, is well.
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  Speaker 3: But if you're in a pottery area, a thicker layer
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  Speaker 3: of mulch is moisture in right.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: But if you're on the coast and you want to
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  Speaker 3: and your purpose is to have it like me, like
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  Speaker 3: if you live on a quarter acre or less, it
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  Speaker 3: is different then if you live on three and a
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 3: half acres.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Question for Brian from from Carlos.
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  Speaker 3: She wanted to know if the Bertoli you were talking
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  Speaker 3: about was like the Bertoli olive oil. Yes, yes, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: same thing, same company, right, yeah, exactly, and.
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  Speaker 2: John's responsible for that and my bamboo floors. So we
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  Speaker 2: learned a lot today. You blame a lot of things
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  Speaker 2: on me. Blame this is this is giving you full credit.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, changing Paula in Fallbrook.
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  Speaker 3: Till the end of the show. Oh my gosh, Peter haya.
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  Speaker 3: Oh remember you walk by your friend hi yah and
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  Speaker 3: then quickly Millie and.
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  Speaker 2: In the Pomo.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not sure if we should allow her to listen
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  Speaker 3: to the show anymore because she said that her husband
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  Speaker 3: makes the.
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  Speaker 4: Best sauer no, the spaghetti sauce.
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  Speaker 2: Best spaghetti sauce. Oh but you know what, Millie, what
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  Speaker 2: type of sauce? That's the point.
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  Speaker 3: Is it a bollionnaise? I make a bollionnaise sauce? There
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  Speaker 3: are different is that the one with meat in it?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? Okay? And there's other types of sauce. You know,
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  Speaker 2: is it billionnaise or bullionnaire? You pronounce the s yeah, okay,
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  Speaker 2: that's Itali you okay, billionnaise.
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  Speaker 4: So there's different ones, there's different sauce categories that we vote.
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  Speaker 3: And it's all right if her husband wants to make
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  Speaker 3: the best of marinera sauce. No, it depends on there's
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 3: different parts of Italy and you guys both know this from.
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  Speaker 2: Because there's northern Northern is the white sauce and then
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 2: the red sauce or vice versa.
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  Speaker 3: Right now, while it gets hotter the further south you
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  Speaker 3: go in spicy, spicier.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, they put pepper in it all like like peppers
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  Speaker 4: or is it just from like pepper seasoning?
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  Speaker 2: No, pep down south?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Like how do they get it spicier?
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  Speaker 2: Oh?
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  Speaker 3: They use spicy like like meats, like sausages and their sausages.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 2: We gotta start wrapping it up. Wow, how about that.
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  Speaker 2: Let's come back next week. Let's come back next week
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: more than we didn't cover. Yeah, and reenact the same thing,
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  Speaker 2: all right? Second verse name is the first.
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  Speaker 3: Send your pictures to Johnnigardanamerica dot com. We'll try to
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 3: get him in the newsletter. Yes, and I apologize.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 2: You know, we had a lot coming, but John's got
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 2: an overabundance right now. I couldn't get everybody. There could
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: be a waiting time. Hey, for the entire crew. I
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 2: want to thank Stephanie on Bistok Radio Tiger Peller Fox
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: John Magnasco. I'm Brian Maine. Have a great week and
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 2: enjoy the rest of your weekend. We are back in
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  Speaker 2: studio next week, right here on Garden America. Until then, John,
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 2: get growing, something like that, get growing. Take care,