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Heather Eck · Postcards to the Universe

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Postcards to the Universe with Melissa Capria. Do
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  Speaker 1: you believe in magic? What if you were told that
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  Speaker 1: all you had to do was get a little creative
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  Speaker 1: and work a magic spell to bring anything you can
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  Speaker 1: imagine into your life. Here on Postcards to the Universe,
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  Speaker 1: we will share manifesting tips, postcards, creativity, abundance, and prosperity.
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  Speaker 1: Here is your host, Melissa Capria.
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  Speaker 2: Hey everybody, and welcome to Postcards to the Universe with
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  Speaker 2: Melissa creating the life you crave. How is everybody doing?
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  Speaker 2: I hope you guys are doing well. Boy, has it
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  Speaker 2: been a roller coaster here, especially if you live in
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  Speaker 2: the US. With President Biden not running for reelection and
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  Speaker 2: now we have Tamala Harris running.
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  Speaker 3: So it's exciting.
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  Speaker 2: So all I'm going to say is I never talk
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  Speaker 2: about politics, and I certainly am not going to start now.
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  Speaker 2: The only thing I want to say is everyone, let's
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  Speaker 2: just be kind right. We put a lot of things
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  Speaker 2: on social media, try to move forward in growth and kindness,
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  Speaker 2: all right. So that's all I'm going to say about that,
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  Speaker 2: all right. So today I have intuitive artist Heather eck
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  Speaker 2: On and she's going to join me in just a
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  Speaker 2: few minutes. To my regulars, a big shout out, thank
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  Speaker 2: you so much for coming each week. It means the
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  Speaker 2: world to me. Thank you to those who are sending
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  Speaker 2: me manifesting postcards. I really appreciate it. And yeah, thanks
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  Speaker 2: for supporting my show. Now, if you're tuning in for
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  Speaker 2: Just so you know, we put all of the shows
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  Speaker 2: show today and you want to listen to some old ones,
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  Speaker 2: you can find them there and in the description, it'll.
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  Speaker 3: Tell you what the show is about.
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  Speaker 2: I do the same thing on my own website, Postcards
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  Speaker 2: to the Universe dot com. I have a section called
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  Speaker 2: podcasts and I upload all of my shows on that
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  Speaker 2: so you can listen to the shows anytime you want.
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  Speaker 2: And of course both are on all the streaming podcasts
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  Speaker 2: like you know, iHeartRadio and Spotify and even Audible actually,
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  Speaker 2: which is really cool. So whatever you're preferred, you can
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  Speaker 2: listen to my Just know who don't know me personally
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  Speaker 2: or haven't heard my show. I am a photographer, I'm
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  Speaker 2: an artist myself and I have an artist on today,
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  Speaker 2: which is cool, a photographer, and I'm also an author.
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  Speaker 2: And my book is called Postcards to the Universe, Harness
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  Speaker 2: the Universe's power and manifest your dreams. And I took
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  Speaker 2: all of the photographs in my book and they are
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  Speaker 2: of people's manifesting post cards. So if you want to
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  Speaker 2: know what that is, it's basically a little mini vision
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  Speaker 2: board about what it is you want to manifest and
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  Speaker 2: when it shows up in your reality. I shared the
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  Speaker 2: stories and there's thirty of them in the book. So
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  Speaker 2: the book came out got almost five years ago. Now,
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  Speaker 2: I can't believe how fast time goes by. I came
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  Speaker 2: out the end of twenty nineteen, right before COVID. So
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  Speaker 2: I decided that I wanted to rephotograph the postcards, and
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  Speaker 2: that's what I've been doing, and that's what I've been
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  Speaker 2: sharing each week. I call them my magical messages, and
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  Speaker 2: then any postcards I get, I photograph them. I set
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  Speaker 2: the intention, I create the space. It's a whole ritual.
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  Speaker 2: I usually do it on Friday afternoons. That's my day.
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  Speaker 2: I light my candles, I play either good music or
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  Speaker 2: like frequencies in the background, whatever I'm feeling, and I
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  Speaker 2: set up the whole scene and I photograph the postcards
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  Speaker 2: and hopefully I am a catalyst in helping bring everybody
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  Speaker 2: else's wishes to them. I'm hoping that's what I'm doing.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm going in with that intention, so I
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  Speaker 2: think that's a good thing. So yeah, check it out
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  Speaker 2: and please send me a manifesting postcard. You can find
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  Speaker 2: out the address on my website postcards to universe dot
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  Speaker 2: com and you can also find out how to create one.
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  Speaker 2: And if you have any questions, just you know, reach
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  Speaker 2: out to me on social media or email me and
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  Speaker 2: I will help you. And I also decided to start
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  Speaker 2: doing readings for my books. I've been breaking those up
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  Speaker 2: and numbering them and I've been reading everybody's story and
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  Speaker 2: sharing the postcards and you can follow along on Instagram.
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  Speaker 2: I'm doing it Instagram, TikTok and sharing it also on
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  Speaker 2: LinkedIn and YouTube because I have YouTube also. So I'm
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  Speaker 2: almost done. I think I only have a couple more
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  Speaker 2: stories left. It's been really fun looking at the book
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  Speaker 2: and seeing how much I've changed, and some of the
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  Speaker 2: people that have contributed in my book I know very well,
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  Speaker 2: and how much they have grown since they contributed to
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  Speaker 2: my book book.
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  Speaker 3: So it's really cool.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I love doing it and it brings me a lot,
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  Speaker 2: a lot of joy. Okay, So let me get to
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  Speaker 2: my guest and artist today. Heather actually is a multimedia
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  Speaker 2: abstract artist and a writer. She's an intuitive artist and painter.
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  Speaker 2: Heather interprets people, places, and experiences through color, a condition
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  Speaker 2: known as synththesia. She'll pronounce it better if I mess
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  Speaker 2: it up, like an enormous box of crayons. Her gift
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  Speaker 2: operates by categorizing through intricate but specific shades of color.
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  Speaker 2: While this condition enables her to experience color both things
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  Speaker 2: emotion in spaces by understanding the particular shade of experience
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  Speaker 2: that a person dwells in so interesting, she uses her
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  Speaker 2: gift to detect most healing color for them.
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  Speaker 3: To remedy their wounds.
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  Speaker 2: Guided by the chakra system and inspired by spirituality and
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  Speaker 2: the mysteries of the universe, Have transforms these vibrant energies
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  Speaker 2: into captivating paintings that uplift, inspire, and ultimately heal. Each
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  Speaker 2: canvas becomes a symphony of color and emotion, a visual
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  Speaker 2: representation of the unseen connections that weave through their lives.
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  Speaker 3: Heather's work is more than art.
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  Speaker 2: It's a medium of healing, a testament to the profound
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  Speaker 2: influence of color in our well being. So if you
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  Speaker 2: want to find out more about her, you can visit
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  Speaker 2: her website, which is www dot heatherex dot com. I'm
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  Speaker 2: gonna spell it. It's h E A T H E
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  Speaker 2: r e c K dot com. Welcome Heather, thanks for
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  Speaker 2: being here with me today.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you so much for having me. I appreciate it.
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  Speaker 2: I'm excited to talk to another artist.
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  Speaker 3: So interesting. Okay, so how do you say it? Synthas?
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  Speaker 3: Please say it for me.
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  Speaker 4: Sure, you're really close. It's like anesthesia, but synesthesia synesthesia.
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  Speaker 3: It's like got me tongue tied.
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  Speaker 2: But it's really interesting because I seeking about this earlier today,
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  Speaker 2: knowing that we were going to talk, and I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: so she has this intuitive, you know, relationship to color
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  Speaker 2: and people and everything. And when I'm photographing the postcards,
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  Speaker 2: it's kind of similar what I'm doing, but I'm not
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  Speaker 2: feeling the color, like I'm getting a sense of the
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  Speaker 2: energy of the postcard that somebody sent me. Because what
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  Speaker 2: I'll do is I'll I have these backgrounds, and I
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  Speaker 2: lay it out and I'm usually photographing it above like
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  Speaker 2: on the floor, and I'll put the postcard down first
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  Speaker 2: and I just kind of look at it for a
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  Speaker 2: bit and just sort of allow what I feel like is,
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  Speaker 2: is you know, I want to put in with the
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  Speaker 2: postcard of things that I already have here, Like I'm
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  Speaker 2: creating a piece and a photograph of it, right, And
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  Speaker 2: it's all intuitive. I don't even think about it. Is
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  Speaker 2: that kind of how your experience is when you're doing
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  Speaker 2: a painting?
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely? Yeah, that's that's very very similar. It's sort of
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  Speaker 4: like you are taking in the energy of something and
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  Speaker 4: sort of allowing your intuition to guide how you work
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  Speaker 4: with it. Very very similar to how I work with
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  Speaker 4: color in my paintings too, is that I sort of
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  Speaker 4: need to sit with it for a minute and let
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  Speaker 4: it sort of talk to me and read the energy
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  Speaker 4: and the messages that are coming through for someone when
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  Speaker 4: I'm doing their painting.
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  Speaker 3: So how did you get like, how did this start
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  Speaker 3: for you?
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  Speaker 2: Were you always into art, like as a kid and
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  Speaker 2: did you always feel color and get the energy from color?
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  Speaker 2: Is that something that or did that something that developed?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: No, it was definitely around me. As a kid, I
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  Speaker 4: was kind of like I was kind of like one
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  Speaker 4: of those weird kids, you know, who like was super
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  Speaker 4: into things that I probably shouldn't have been into. Like
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  Speaker 4: I was obsessed with my dad's book of you know,
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  Speaker 4: Unsolved Mysteries, mysteries of the universe, Like I studied a
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  Speaker 4: stroller books. I was really into like learning about the
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  Speaker 4: bigger world. But I was definitely an artist. I took
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  Speaker 4: art classes as a kid. I would listen to music
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  Speaker 4: and draw what I saw the music looked like in
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  Speaker 4: my mind and didn't really you know know at the time.
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  Speaker 4: This was in the eighties, right, what was happening for
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  Speaker 4: me until I got into you know, into my late
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  Speaker 4: thirties and then started to kind of notice that when
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  Speaker 4: I was looking at people in my office, because I
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  Speaker 4: worked in a corporate office for close to twenty years
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  Speaker 4: before I stepped into art making full time, I was
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  Speaker 4: seeing aura around people who would come into my office,
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  Speaker 4: and you know, I was working with a spiritual teacher
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  Speaker 4: and talked to her about it, and she and I
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  Speaker 4: kind of uncovered that art was really like my gift
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  Speaker 4: and that if i'd really you know, hindsight twenty twenty.
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  Speaker 4: So you look back at your life and you notice
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  Speaker 4: all these places where your gift was kind of showing
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  Speaker 4: up for you and maybe you tapped in do it then,
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  Speaker 4: or maybe you didn't, But it's nice to look back
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  Speaker 4: and go, oh, that was there, that was there. I
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  Speaker 4: see that now, that makes total sense. So I think
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  Speaker 4: it was probably about twenty sixteen that I just said, okay,
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  Speaker 4: I'm going to dive back into art making and really
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  Speaker 4: kind of started to develop this ability to see and
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  Speaker 4: sense color around people. So it was kind of it
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  Speaker 4: kind of came in and out on my path for
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  Speaker 4: a while.
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  Speaker 3: So interesting.
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  Speaker 2: So can you share a little bit about color, Like
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  Speaker 2: is there certain themes that go with certain colors that
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  Speaker 2: were like attracted to or like you know, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I mean we kind of know. You know, blue is
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  Speaker 2: more like calming, and red it's fiery.
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  Speaker 3: But like beyond that.
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  Speaker 2: Like if you're a person, does somebody having a favorite
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  Speaker 2: color say something about their personality?
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  Speaker 3: For example?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah? It does. So I associate the colors that I
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  Speaker 4: see around people with the chakra system, and so when
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  Speaker 4: I see, for example, like if I see yellow around somebody,
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  Speaker 4: then I know that they're dwelling in their solar plexus,
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  Speaker 4: and that they might be working on something related to
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  Speaker 4: their sense of identity or their sense of personal power,
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  Speaker 4: or they're kind of working through a transition of some kind.
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  Speaker 4: So the colors definitely communicate something. You know, if you
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  Speaker 4: are attracted to a particular color, it's because that color
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  Speaker 4: is offering you something. And so if you are somebody
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  Speaker 4: who is surrounding yourself with blues, you're looking for the
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  Speaker 4: energy that that blue offers you in the way of
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  Speaker 4: peace or calm or tranquility, or you're looking to sort
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  Speaker 4: of connect with an aspect of truth that maybe you're
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  Speaker 4: struggling with expressing or really looking for a way to
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  Speaker 4: communicate somehow. So it's interesting to kind of read what
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  Speaker 4: colors people are drawn to or that you avoid, because
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  Speaker 4: that's telling you something too. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, what about if you're attracted to more muted colors
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  Speaker 2: compared to like, say, bright colors.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's so interesting because I've noticed sort of in
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  Speaker 4: home trends and clothes there's this aesthetic of like a
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  Speaker 4: muted tone in the home or in our outfits or
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  Speaker 4: what have you, And that to me is sort of
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  Speaker 4: like a lack of something or maybe that the chakra
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  Speaker 4: or whatever color is being muted is sort of out
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  Speaker 4: of balance or needs a little bit more support or
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  Speaker 4: a little bit more energy to help it come back
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  Speaker 4: to a state of neutral. Because the the you know,
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  Speaker 4: the vibrancy of our chakras or the vibrancy of those
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  Speaker 4: energy centers, they really live at a higher vibration, and
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  Speaker 4: so if we're muting them, then there's something about that
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  Speaker 4: that we're not getting or that we just haven't been
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  Speaker 4: able to sort of like turn the dial up on
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  Speaker 4: whatever that energy center represents.
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  Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, Now, now does that have like so do
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  Speaker 2: you see the chakras of somebody that you meet in
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  Speaker 2: person or could it be like somebody that you're even
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  Speaker 2: connected with, like you and I just connected.
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  Speaker 3: So could you like see I.
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  Speaker 2: Mean, not chakras, I'm sorry aura? Could you like see
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  Speaker 2: my aura? Or does it have to be the person
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  Speaker 2: is in your visual site?
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  Speaker 4: So usually in my visual site, if I'm doing a
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  Speaker 4: spirit portrait for somebody, whether they're living or deceased, I'll
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  Speaker 4: get a photo of them just so I can sort
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  Speaker 4: of tune into what I'm seeing. Okay, but there are
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  Speaker 4: times where I can sort of just get a feel
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  Speaker 4: for somebody just by you know, connecting with them, but
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  Speaker 4: usually it starts with a photo.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I would think so because you're seeing
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  Speaker 2: around their physical present, their presence, so I would think
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  Speaker 2: that you would need the visual component for that.
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  Speaker 3: That makes sense to me.
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  Speaker 2: So how how does your experience with synesthesia influence your
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  Speaker 2: your process and and how is that healing in the art.
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  Speaker 4: There's you know, it's so interesting because the synesthesia is
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  Speaker 4: sort of how my brain takes an information. So it's
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  Speaker 4: it's sort of I don't know if you're familiar with
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  Speaker 4: the movie Ratitui the Pixel about that. Yes, I love
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  Speaker 4: that movie so much, And there's a scene in there
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  Speaker 4: where Remy is eating Remy and a mouse is the chef.
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  Speaker 4: He's eating a couple of bites of food and they
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  Speaker 4: illustrate they like animate so beautifully what he experiences when
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  Speaker 4: he tastes the food, and it kind of spirals out
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  Speaker 4: in color and form, and it's just this beautiful sort
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  Speaker 4: of imagery. And that's sort of what happens in my
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  Speaker 4: mind when I listen to music, tastes something, drink something,
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  Speaker 4: or just kind of like feel in my body where
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  Speaker 4: what something looks like. And so that's sort of one
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  Speaker 4: aspect of being able to sort of draw or paint
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  Speaker 4: what I'm experiencing through a person or place or just
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  Speaker 4: an energy or in a and then the other side
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  Speaker 4: of it is about being able to sort of look
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  Speaker 4: into someone's energy and say, okay, I see here that
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  Speaker 4: you are dwelling in your heart center. And so what
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  Speaker 4: that means to me is that there might be some
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  Speaker 4: sense of lost in the heart or pain in the
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  Speaker 4: heart or this, you know, depending on what shade of
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  Speaker 4: green it is. And then when I create a painting,
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  Speaker 4: I'm sort of offering them. It's almost like a prayer
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  Speaker 4: for or something that we'll be able to minister to
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  Speaker 4: that area of pain and offer you feeling through the
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  Speaker 4: colors that come through and through the messages that come
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  Speaker 4: through as I'm working on it too. So it's sort
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  Speaker 4: of two different I don't say different things, that sort
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  Speaker 4: of two different aspects of what happens when I'm experiencing
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  Speaker 4: something that gets translated onto the canvas somehow.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, that's interesting, you said something like, Yeah, so let's
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  Speaker 2: say that I came to you for a portrait and
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  Speaker 2: I was going through some thing and there was some
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  Speaker 2: pain in my body that I wanted to heal, and
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  Speaker 2: you would be able to sense that through color and
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  Speaker 2: it would show in the.
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  Speaker 3: Portrait kind of thing.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just trying to get people who are listening to
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  Speaker 2: us to understand kind of like get a visual about
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  Speaker 2: how what we're talking about.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, for sure, that's that's a great question. There
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  Speaker 4: was a client that I did a portrait for a
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  Speaker 4: couple of weeks ago. Who So when I'm doing a
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  Speaker 4: painting for somebody, every part of that painting experience is
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  Speaker 4: sort of communicating something to me in some way. So
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  Speaker 4: for example, when I kind of put the ink on
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  Speaker 4: the paper, if it bursts out and spreads across the
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  Speaker 4: page and sort of scatters, and I sort of know
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  Speaker 4: that there's something that person is trying to get out,
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  Speaker 4: and they're trying to sort of urgently push an energy
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  Speaker 4: out of their body. It could be related to speaking
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  Speaker 4: or or you know, you just kind of like moving
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  Speaker 4: some sort of energy. They're trying to bring something through
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  Speaker 4: into physical reality or whatever it is that's sort of
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  Speaker 4: being represented there. And so I had worked with a
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  Speaker 4: client and the first shape that hit the paper was
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  Speaker 4: sort of an anatomical heart. It wasn't like the cute
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  Speaker 4: little Valentine's Day heart. It looked like a physical heart,
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  Speaker 4: and I sat with it for a second and thought,
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  Speaker 4: there's something related to the heart center. It was red,
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  Speaker 4: and read is typically associated with the root chakra, which
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  Speaker 4: is about the physical body, your sense of stability and support.
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  Speaker 4: It's about how you connect to your family, your tribe,
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  Speaker 4: or even your finances. And so I saw this heart
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  Speaker 4: come up and I was read, and so I thought
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  Speaker 4: there's something connected to the physical heart for this person.
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  Speaker 4: And I mentioned it to him and said, there's something
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  Speaker 4: about your heart here. And I kept working about I
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  Speaker 4: kept working on the painting, and so other things were
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  Speaker 4: coming through. And at the end he told me that
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  Speaker 4: he had been he had just gone through a medical
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  Speaker 4: exam to take a look at his heart because he
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  Speaker 4: had had blockage is before and he had really been
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  Speaker 4: working on improving his physical health and his scan had
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  Speaker 4: just come back perfectly clear. So it was sort of
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  Speaker 4: interesting that that came through in his painting for something
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  Speaker 4: that he was really trying to work on healing, and
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  Speaker 4: it was physically showing up in his portrait too.
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  Speaker 3: Wow, that's pretty that's really kind of cool.
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  Speaker 4: Actually, it was kind of wild. I almost didn't say
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  Speaker 4: anything to him because I thought this is a little weird.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if you could, what's he going to
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: say about this? And then after after I mentioned that,
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  Speaker 4: I was so happy that I did because I felt
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: like it was confirmation for him and also for me
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: that what I was receiving was actually you know, on
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: point for him.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely. So how can we use art as because
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: I know you believe that art is can be used
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: as a vehicle for healing and transformation. So how would
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: you describe that for everybody listening? Because I mean, personally,
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: I have my own way of using it and it's
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: doing for my own healing and transformation because I'm an
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: artist myself. But for those listening and people like or
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: just being with art.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And I know that you probably feel
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: this too when you're putting together your beautiful photographs, that
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: as soon as you touch the piece that's going to
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: be in your photo or you or for me, I
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: picked up a bottle of paint today and I felt
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: this instant sort of relaxation fall on my shoulders. So
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: anytime you're working with your hands, whether you're baking bread
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: or you're making art or you're writing, or whatever you
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: want to do, you know, refinishing furniture, whatever you're doing
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: with your hands, there's this instant connection that reduces cortisol
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: and it relaxes the body. And so Number one, I
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: think there's this sort of physical release that happens when
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: you allow you self the space to be creative or
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: just to explore something. You're creating anything with your hands.
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: So part of what I like to help people do
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: is just create space to make something anything that's going
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: to kind of get them out of their mind and
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: get them into a place where they can just focus
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: on being in the present moment and allowing themselves to
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: just explore whatever is going on for them. I like
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: to do workshops with people where we sort of sit
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: down and look at, Okay, what are the things we
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: want to let go of, or what are the things
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: that we want to manifest or bring into our lives,
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: and using art and journaling and meditation to create that
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: or to release it or to invite new things in.
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: So there's definitely I think a healing component to that
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: that people often overlook, And I think when we create
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: space to make more, we are healing ourselves and we're
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: giving ourselves permission to be in the present moment.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean definitely, I know exactly what you're talking
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: about because that is my own And like I said,
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: even being with art, going to a gallery or going
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: to a museum and sitting and like really looking at
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: you know, what's been created can have healing proponents to it,
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: you know, if you can connect with the art and
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: then the artist.
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so what is your like technique because obviously you
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: get you do commission portraits that you said, but you
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: also do your own abstract kind of painting. So what
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: is walk us through what your your technique is and
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: when you're getting ready to create a beast mm hmm.
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: Oftentimes the process starts with clearing my studio and you know,
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: making sure that the energy that's in there is the
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: cleanest and clearest. And I will start with a meditation
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: and ask to be a channel through which you know,
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: these loving messages flow and just invite that energy to
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: be the one that I co create with instead of
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: my ego, because if I if I go into the
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: studio with any sort of intention for what something needs
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: to look like, it goes horribly wrong for me. Right,
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: I really have to get out of the way. I'm
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: sure you feel that too, where you're like, you know,
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: you can overwork something or you just need it to
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: allow it to come through. And so that's what I
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: really tried to do, is allow it to come through.
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: And so I'll kind of go, Okay, what's the energy today,
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: what are the colors that are coming through today? So
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: for me, I was actually working on a piece earlier
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: and the only two colors that I was playing with
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: were blue and white and a little bit of gold.
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: And so those to me are the times where I
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: just kind of try to get out of the way
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: and let whatever is coming through come through. And then
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: I often will create something and need to leave it
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: and come back to it the next day and sort
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: of sit with it and say, Okay, what is it
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: trying to say? Because there are usually symbols or messages
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: that are sort of coming up in however the paint
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: sort of laid on the canvas that are are telling
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: me something about it. So usually clearing, meditating, getting out
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: of the way, and then reading it.
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I could see that.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: Do you feel like you're working with because I know
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: you you get inspiration from the Bible and we can
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: talk more about that. But do you feel like you
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: like you're working with the angels, do you feel like
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: you're getting impressions? Are you connecting to your higher self? Like?
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: What is what does it feel like for you when
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: you're when you've created this space.
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: I think that there's a an energy that comes through
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: where I feel like when I'm making my art, I'm
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: in communion with God or higher power or universe or source,
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: you know, whatever the vocabulary that feels comfortable for you.
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: For me, it's it's God or the universe or higher power.
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: But that's sort of where I feel like all of
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: my messages are coming from and where that inspiration and
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: intuition are leading me. And I do I do pray
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: and meditate before I work because I do want everything
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: to be as high level as possible, you know, like
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: everything super positive and really focused on the cleanest and
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: clearest energy possible.
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well definitely, especially if you feel like you're connecting
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: with God.
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: And I do believe in.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: That when we are in our creative energy, that that
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: is when we are the most open to receiving the messages,
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: right because totally it raises our vibration. And I believe
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: in our frequency, so it's easier for us to connect
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: to the higher.
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: Realms whether whatever you want to call it.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: You know, everybody can be anything, Yeah, Angels, God, Buddha,
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: your higher self, the.
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: Universe, it doesn't matter, you know.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: I use universe because people, you know, I believe in
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: God and talk to God. But I like the word
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: universe because I feel like people can embrace that more universally.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: You know, like people get a little weird when you start,
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: you know, getting to Yeah, you know, like not everybody
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: connects with the angels. And I'm not a practicing Catholic,
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: but my background is Catholics, so I was introduced to
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: the archangels very young. And I still talk to the
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: Guardian Angels like Raphael and Gabriel and Archangel Michael all
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: the time because I feel comfortable in that. You know,
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: that's comforting for me, but you know, for every everybody's different.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: So yeah, it's really really interesting.
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: And I do.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: Want to talk about you say that you draw inspiration
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: from the Bible, and I want to know are there
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: certain stories from the Bible that like you've interpreted in
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: your art and how that works. But I don't want
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: you to get into that right just a second, because
• 26:24
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• 26:26
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• 26:27
  Speaker 2: don't want to cut you off in the middle of
• 26:29
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• 26:32
  Speaker 2: take our break here, and then when we come back,
• 26:35
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• 26:37
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  Speaker 2: I wanted to ask you, because you do say you
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  Speaker 2: draw inspiration from the Bible. Are there certain stories that
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  Speaker 4: There are Yeah, I mentioned earlier how I was kind
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  Speaker 4: of like that weird kid who was always like looking
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  Speaker 4: at things, you know, early on, and I was, I
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  Speaker 4: was kind of interested in the Bible as a really
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• 30:29
  Speaker 4: myself now in my forties really reading it again and
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: looking at it with a different lens, and I've found
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: that there are certain like I did a series called
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: Genesis in Blue a couple of months ago where I
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: sort of interpreted the energy of the Book of Genesis
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: with blue, which is really largely water. There's a lot
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: of water in Genesis, with the creation story and with
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: the flood, and so it was really fun to play
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: with what that felt like to me from a spiritual
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: perspective and from a synesthesia perspective to put that out
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: on little canvases that I named related to what was
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: happening in that book. So I love to sort of
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: learn more about how those stories go together and then
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: interpret what they look like to me through colors and
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: through different symbols that come out when I'm painting.
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I can see that.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: I can see how certain stories would be interpreted through
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: through visual arts, right Like you're reading a story and
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: then you're taking the symbolism from that and then you're
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: representing it in your paintings. That's yeah, yeah, that makes
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: a lot of sense, and that must make you feel very.
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: I was the word I'm looking for, like supercharged.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: I guess when you're doing these kind of paintings, right,
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: you must be feeling like well because because as artists
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: and maybe you know other artists out there can relate
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: no matter what, you don't have to be even thinking
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: of connecting it to your spirituality. It just can be
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: a visceral physical thing. But when you're creating your art,
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: there's a certain vibration, right that you feel like you
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: get jazzed up if it's passionate, or if you're working
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: something out, you may be working out aggression, whatever it is.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: When you're in that space, there is a feeling you
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: feel something right.
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: I mean that's how I feel.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: And every artist I know personally would say, yes, you're
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: definitely in your feels right, you're in it at that moment.
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: So I think that's why it's so it opens us
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: up so much because we are you're when you're creating,
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: you're in the present moment.
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: That's right. Yeah, yeah, because we're right.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: We're usually in the past or in the future. We're
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: never in the present.
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: We're never in the present. I think you're right. I
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: think that's the flow that you know, the energy where
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: you get into it and you just start you're moving
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: and you're making, and you're feeling and you're creating, and
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: there's something really powerful and beautiful about that. And I
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: think that's also where that healing comes from being in
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: the present and being able to just you know, sit
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: with whatever it is it's bubbling up for you at
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: the time.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I definitely. Okay, So I want to I
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: want to talk about what you feel with the colors,
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: if you, if you would share that with us. So
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: you're feeling the colors, which is I'm trying to wrap
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: my brain around it, like I'm looking at I'm looking
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: at my wall right now, Like it's interesting. I swear
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: to you. I dress in black constantly, dark immunic color constantly,
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: but in my house is popping with color.
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: I have color everywhere.
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I love color.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: I drive a red car, my wall is blue. I
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: have like paintings and photographs all over, Like I love color.
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: My couch is blue. I have a red couch look.
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: But I dress with dark colors. I know, it's crazy.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: Well, I love the feel.
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: Of when I walk in my home and I.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: See all the colors, like, I feel really good. So
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: I want to kind of know what you're experiencing, Like
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: when We'll start with like blue, Like, what do you
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: see and feel in blue? When you're touching blue or
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: working with blue?
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: Blue is especially calming to me, And I think it's
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: because I associate blue with God. And that's because the
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: sky and the ocean those are the largest, you know,
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: like living areas of color that we have sort of
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: in nature outside of like the green of our grass
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: and trees and everything. So there's instant peace for me
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: when I'm connected to blue. And I work with blue
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: a lot, and I think if you were to ask
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: most people, they'd say blue was their favorite color more
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: than likely because there is something really healing and soothing
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: about it.
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and what about green?
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: What does it feel like look like for you when
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: you're working with green?
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: Oh?
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, green is a heart color. So I feel that
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: in my heart and it sort of spreads out throughout
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: my body depending on what shade of green it is.
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: So if it's like my favorite green to wear is
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: like a bright kelly green, it's like a super vibrant
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: and you know, you look at it and you're like, ooh,
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: it just kind of grabs you. There's something really healing
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: about the energy of green that represents growth. And nurturing
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: and new beginnings. But it also strongly supports the heart center.
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: So I have you know, I'm a struggling or not struggling,
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: a recovering people pleaser, and perfectionist. So you know, I
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: live most of my life really not being very kind
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: to myself. And so green is like a self love color.
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: So I know that when I'm wearing that or engaging
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: with that, there's some kind of reminder to me to
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: go inward and just accept and love myself as I am.
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: M Okay, yeah, I know.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: I for some reason, I always forget that green is
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: the heart color.
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: Like I don't know why.
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: You know, because you don't really think of it. You
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: think of like anchor.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what about red?
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: Do you like?
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: What do you feel when you work with red? I
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: love red.
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: I love the red.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: But it's a very passionate and fiery color, you know
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: it is.
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think even just looking at the color red
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: increases your blood pressure a little bit. It's like an
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: energy color. It's a it you know, fires you up.
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: It's sort of like that color that gives you that
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: boost of momentum and forward action. Actually when you are
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: not feeling well or you're sick, wearing the color red
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: can help increase your recovery time. It can like make
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: you heal faster because it's red is the color of
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: our life force energy. It's you know, the color of
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: our blood, and so it helps support the physical body
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: with healing.
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: That's interesting.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: Red used to be my favorite color, and now it
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: makes sense because of what I was going through at
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: the time of my life when it was, and now
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: my favorite color is purple.
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: Ooh, okay, I love that. Purple is a really interesting
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: color because it's the color of our crown chakra. That's
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: where we connect to higher power, you know, your higher self,
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: the universe. Purple is a color of royalty and mystery.
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: It is a color that helps you. It's like a
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: reminder that you're connected to everyone and everyone is connected
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: to you. So if you're strongly attracted to purple right now,
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: it could be that you're working on developing or strengthening
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: your sort of line of communication with the universe and
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: really trying to develop your intuition and your ability to
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: sort of receive unconditional information and infinite information.
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: Totally makes sense.
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: It totally makes sense because there was a time when
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: I had my bedroom was red and I loved it.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: And I was going through a lot of changes and
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: a lot of dismantling, and I had low.
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: On energy, and you know, and then.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: When postcards started to grow, and I shifted so much
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: my attraction to red. Not that I still don't love
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: the colors. There's no color so I really don't like so,
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: but it just it wasn't my favorite anymore.
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: And it started to become.
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: Purple, like I love, Like my wall is not really blue,
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: it's like a bluish gray, but it almost has like
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: a certain times the day like a purpleish to it almost,
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: and I love it, like I love being in that space,
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: you know, so purple, and with my work and trying
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: to connect, you know, with the show, the radio show, right,
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: I connect.
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: People to a whole bunch of other people. The postcards.
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: It's it's all.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: It just kind of makes sense without me actually knowing
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: why all of a sudden now it was purple, right.
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, totally. That's the really cool thing about color, too,
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: is that if you sort of look back, you know,
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: because hindsight's twenty twenty, right, but like you can kind
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: of look back and watch a shift in your life
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: happen around a color, And so that happened to a
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: friend of mine. She had been married, she lived in
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: a different state, she made a huge transition, moved, went
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: through a divorce, lost people close to her, and everything
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: in her world was red and orange. And when she
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: moved and she started to go through some changes, her
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: whole house, her whole you know, interior shifted from this
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: like darker red color to these bright white gold yellows blue.
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: So she really shifted out of that, you know, that
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: sort of lack of stability, that lack of security, into
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: more of an abundant space where she could express herself
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: and find she was more connected to her spirit and
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: she was getting clarity on what she wanted in her life.
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: But so fascinating to me, Yeah, I love that.
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it really is.
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: So how do you experience yellow?
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: Yellow? To me, it's so funny. When I went actually
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: when we moved from New Jersey down here to North Carolina,
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: I had a lot of yellow show up in my
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: life and it was signaling to me a big shift
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: in my sense of identity. We changed health, have changed jobs,
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: changed so many things, and so I associate yellow with change,
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: something shifting, But yellow is extremely optimistic and sunny depending
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: on the shade. If it's more of like a mustardy,
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: muted yellow, then I kind of think there's some aspect
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: of your identity maybe that you're not willing to connect with,
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: or that you haven't really like mad made amends with.
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: I guess, but that to me is usually signaling like
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: a bright, optimistic outlook.
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: M Yeah, yeah, that makes sense.
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: And orange about orange is a hungry color. It is.
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: It signals hunger, it sinks, signals action. It is a
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: color of creativity and emotion. It's a color of relationships
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: and sexuality. So it's really kind of like kind of
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: like a hidden sexy color that you wouldn't really you know,
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: think about often, but it really is like a jolt
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: to your sacral chakra. It kind of moves you into
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: into movement.
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: Hmmm.
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: So if you need to like add a little spice
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: to your love life, maybe add some orange.
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: You can add some orange. Yeah, it's really energizing.
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what about is someone when you said that, maybe
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: think of that.
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: What about pink?
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, pink is a love color too. Pink is also
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: a art color. But I so I see the green
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: of the self love color and the pink as the
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: higher love, you know, like bring me a higher love.
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: That's like that kind of but it definitely signals love,
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: but more of the unconditional love that the universe is
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: offering us all the time, and we just have to
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: be open enough to receive it.
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, what about now? What about the white and black?
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah? I so a lot of people will ask me
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: if I see black around them, and I don't typically,
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: but black. Black is such an interesting color because it's
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: not a bad color at all, but some people associated
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: as a bad color when they're like, oh, I wear
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: black all the time. You know, what does that mean? Well,
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: it could just mean that you are sitting in a
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: place where you don't really want to be seen, or
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: you're sort of trying to protect or you're just kind
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: of trying to blend in. You're like, look, I'm not
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: here to make waves. I just kind of want to
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: move through the day. Like when I worked in Manhattan,
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: it was my whole wardrobe was black because we just
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: kind of like tried to blend in with the city.
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: Well, black all the colors combined, right, isn't black all
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: the colors?
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah? Okay, yeah, fine, Yeah, Yeah, that makes it.
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: So, Yeah, an interesting.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: I associate black too, is sort of like maybe because
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: I'm very an EmPATH and I get very I feed
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: up the other people's vibration a lot. Like if I'm
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: around a lot of you know, vibration, I get very
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: affected and I need like, you know, kind of like
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: recoup time. So I think like black somehow protects me.
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: If that makes sense.
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: It probably does. Yeah, it makes total sense. And a
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: lot of like crystals or stones that are protective are
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: usually like the gray or the blackstones.
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and now what about white? Now? Is white the
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: absence of color?
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: I believe it is. Yeah, Okay, White to me is
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: sort of the strongest and purest. It is really like
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: the highest vibration color because it expressing that purity and
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: definitely expressing that connection to a higher power too.
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, well yeah, because when you think of like
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: if you want a spark of like healing, you may say,
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: you know, fill me with a white light, you know,
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: like yeah, yeah, to heal inside your body or whatever. Now,
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: what about the golds and silvers and metallic colors, Like
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: what do you got like the feelings from those when
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: you're working with those?
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: Gold and silver? For me, are all about prosperity and abundance.
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: So I really when I'm doing a painting, oftentimes there's
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: gold in there because I want to invite the energy
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: of abundance in tes somebody of painting, and abundance in
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: all ways, not just financial, but in love and friendship
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: and yeah, all of that.
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: Now silver too, or silver gave you a different feel.
• 44:55
  Speaker 4: Silver is really like prosperity, and so I don't work
• 44:59
  Speaker 4: with that as much, but they both represent this energy
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: of like receiving what you need in your life.
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: Oh okay, good to know. Yeah, I never thought about
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: it like that.
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: But that's good because I I have some gold and
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: silver around that I can add to some of the
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: photos when I'm doing that.
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: Now. The grays, now, I like.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: Grays like I like the muted colors. There's something comforting
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: about like grays.
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: And what do you get a feel for? What do
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: you feel with those?
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, gray is a very neutral color. It's one of
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: those colors that can sometimes represent a lack of something
• 45:41
  Speaker 4: because it doesn't really have a lot of color in it.
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: So I sort of, you know, I sort of lean
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: with gray as like a neutral or supportive color for
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: whatever color it's put with. But I do find that
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: if I'm wearing too much gray or surrounded by too
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: much gray, my energy can get drained. So I just
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: try to be careful with gray.
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that makes sense. Now do you have a favorite?
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: I mean, I know you said blue, but because of
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: your connection to God and the universe. But besides working
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: with blue, is there another color you find yourself going
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: to a lot? Oh?
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I have a crush on the color magenta.
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: I know magenta well, and I know magenta well because
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: I used to my I'm dating myself, but my photography
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: goes back to dark room times. So oh I used
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: to be in the color lab and when I would
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: want a photograph would have too much green, I would
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: have to add magenta. Oh and that's what we called it, magenta.
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: It wasn't red, it was magenta.
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that color. Well, yeah, I know you can always
• 46:46
  Speaker 4: tell an artist, right because it's not just the name
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: a special color.
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: Beautiful color though it's so rich it is.
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: I just love it so much. It's a blend of
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: red and indigo or purple. It sort of it just
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: brings us like super vibrant, lush, pinky color and for me,
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: it represents both the physical and the spiritual, and so
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: you probably know, like, as a spiritual person, I feel
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: like you can't unring the bell sometimes you know too
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: much and then and then you're trying to be a
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: human having a spiritual experience. And so I feel like
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: it sort of grounds me in the place of being
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: both a spiritual person and being you know, a human.
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's really interesting.
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: And I'm realizing that I am must be feeling the
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: colors more than I realize. Maybe I just never like
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: like named it as just but just as I'm talking
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: to you, Because so i live in South Florida, right,
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: so I'm surrounded by the ocean and the blues and
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: the whites and the very thing. And I grew up
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: here in my whole thing. And now I notice, and
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: I've talked about this on other shows I have. I
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: have such a desire to be in the forests, the
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: forests with the greens and the browns, and especially in
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: autumn with the oranges and the yellows. So if I
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: come to you and I'm telling you this and I say, hey, Heather,
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: what do you.
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: Think that means?
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: What would you say to me like that? I feel
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: like I need this more in my life.
• 48:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it's it's trying to connect you to
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: this feeling of groundedness and feeling rooted and supported. Being
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: out in nature is so so healing for us, and
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: I think there are studies that show that just like
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: listening to the birds things for fifteen minutes, it reduces
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: the stress levels in your body. There's so much that
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: nature offers. So I would say if that's what you're
• 48:47
  Speaker 4: drawn to, then it's offering you a feeling of or
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: a place to just find grounding and calm and quiet.
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, like I need more green, orange, yellow, and brown.
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: In my life.
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: I think more of those natural nature colors.
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because my whole life has been the blues
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: and the ocean. And I mean I lived in the
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: Keys for seven years. I was in the day, yeah,
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: every day, So I think I kind of got filled
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: up with that.
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: In the hot.
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: Sun, I'm like, I want to move into a different
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: part of my life, and I keep dreaming about it.
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: And you know, if as we're talking about color, you know,
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: when I imagine it, I imagine it and that that time of year.
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: You know, So that's that's interesting. Yeah.
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: So maybe I need to add some more yellow and
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: orange around my space because I'm looking as I'm talking
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: to you, and I'm like, I have a lot of red, blue,
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: a lot of purple. So if somebody wanted to commission you, you
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: you do that, right, Like like if somebody wanted to
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: have a portrait done of themselves or an interpretation of
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: a loved one who passed on, you do that.
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: I do. Yeah, I do that for people who are
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: living or passed on, or even pets or spaces too,
• 50:06
  Speaker 4: And those are called spirit portraits.
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: And when you do as a spirit portrait, how do
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: you feel like you connect with the spirit who's passed on?
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: Do you get that interpret you do?
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah? It's so interesting because they're usually usually when I
• 50:25
  Speaker 4: do a spirit portrait for somebody who's living, there are
• 50:28
  Speaker 4: colors in the it's usually like two to three colors
• 50:30
  Speaker 4: for them. But when I've done them for people who've
• 50:33
  Speaker 4: passed on or for pets, there are many many colors,
• 50:36
  Speaker 4: and it feels like it's because they've moved into a
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: different place. And so there was a woman whose husband
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: passed away and I did a portrait for her of
• 50:47
  Speaker 4: his energy. And what was so interesting about it is
• 50:50
  Speaker 4: that I felt like he was right beside me, like
• 50:54
  Speaker 4: making me move into more color, like more color, put
• 50:57
  Speaker 4: more color, so much so that I was like, are
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: you sure crazy? But the porture it was just punning,
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: And there's how otter symbols and things that came through
• 51:07
  Speaker 4: that that she was able to connect with it. But
• 51:10
  Speaker 4: he was there a way besides, we're guiding that process
• 51:13
  Speaker 4: and I really really.
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that's that's really interesting. Yeah, I got to
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: talk to you maybe about doing my sister who passed
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: away two years ago, maybe has a gift for my mom.
• 51:33
  Speaker 4: That would be.
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you sound like you're going out a little bit.
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: Did you move locations at all?
• 51:42
  Speaker 4: I'm still similar in front of my window, but we
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: were getting a storm.
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, Yeah, you sounded like right now, it's like
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: we're you know, at the end.
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: We sounded like you were going in and out. Yeah.
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: So my sister, whose special needs, passed away in June
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: two years and you know, just thinking about doing a
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: portrait for my mother as a gift might be you
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: know something I think that could be very healing for her.
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: And I know my sister's energy is very strong.
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: Because other psychics have told me, and I feel her
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: all the time, and I see her like in my
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: mind's eye, like I connect with her all the time.
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: So she's super strong and she's super around, and that.
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: Would be I think.
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: I think, what a beautiful gift that you do that
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: for people who are left behind, right, because yeah, one
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: day we'll be with our loved ones.
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: But we're while we're waiting. Wow. And you also do workshops,
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: right I do.
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I do online workshops where we focus on a
• 52:47
  Speaker 4: particular energy or color center. And I'm working on a
• 52:52
  Speaker 4: course that will help introduce people to color and how
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: to use more color in their lives, sort of like
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: much like our conversation today, where does color show up
• 53:00
  Speaker 4: and what does it mean? And all the interesting things
• 53:03
  Speaker 4: that come up with color and chakras and all of
• 53:06
  Speaker 4: that stuff.
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, what if that would be a lot
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: of fun. Actually, Yeah, to do a.
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: Course like that and looking at color because just like
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: I said, just talking with you today is made me
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: relook at where color is shown up in my life
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: and what it meant, you know, like I never really
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: thought about it before.
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: And yeah, yeah, like.
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: It's like I said, like I always wear the dark
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: colors and I'm like, so attracted to black and it,
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: and it's been like that for a while now, and
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: I think I've realized because you know, I'm very, like
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: I said, I'm very sensitive to the energies around me.
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: So I think I'm yeah, it makes sense that it
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: would be like a protection thing. I mean, yeah, I
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: mean I do love black, so I have to say
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: I love it. So we only have a couple of minutes.
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: Is there something you really want to share about yourself
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: or that we didn't get a chance to talk about today.
• 54:09
  Speaker 4: Not that I can think of. I think that the
• 54:11
  Speaker 4: I guess the thing I'd love to leave people with
• 54:13
  Speaker 4: is just to pay attention to color, you know, Like
• 54:16
  Speaker 4: you said, it's sort of like an awareness thing. If
• 54:18
  Speaker 4: you notice that you have a lot of black in
• 54:20
  Speaker 4: your closet, or you keep reaching for that same pink
• 54:23
  Speaker 4: shirt each time you go out, you know, just to
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: notice that and to look it up, or to say,
• 54:29
  Speaker 4: you know, what does that color mean? What is that
• 54:31
  Speaker 4: color trying to communicate to me? Because we're constantly getting
• 54:34
  Speaker 4: messages from the universe, and color is just one really
• 54:38
  Speaker 4: awesome way that we can learn to read those messages.
• 54:42
  Speaker 4: You know, It's kind of incredible.
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: And I've heard from people that I've spoken to you
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: who have had maybe like a near death experience or
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: connected to the other side, that there's colors over there
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: that we've never even seen.
• 54:58
  Speaker 4: I've heard that too. Yeah, I'm fascinated by it and
• 55:02
  Speaker 4: I have the strong desire to see what those colors are.
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: Not yet, yeah right not yeah right, well yeah, yeah,
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: like maybe it'll come out in your art as you're interpreting, right, yeah, yeah,
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: not quite yet. So tell everybody the best way to
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: find you if they want to connect with you or
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: follow your art or yeah, like let everybody know.
• 55:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, on my website at Heatheraic dot com flash, thank you.
• 55:29
  Speaker 4: I've got a bunch of freebies on there for folks
• 55:32
  Speaker 4: if they're interested in learning more about color. I have
• 55:35
  Speaker 4: a color and Chakra guide on there that's free, you
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: can download that. And I love to connect with people
• 55:40
  Speaker 4: on Instagram and I'm at Heatheraic Artists there.
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: Well, thank you, Heather. It was such a pleasure talking
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: to you today. I loved I loved our conversation. Thank
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: you so much.
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  Speaker 4: For being here, Thank you for having me.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Of fun, all right, guys, thanks for listening to Postcards
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  Speaker 2: to the Universe with Melissa reading Life You Crave and
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  Speaker 2: wishing everyone a wonderful week filled with joy, abundance and love.
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  Speaker 3: Peace,