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Has a Virus Ever Actually Been Shown to Exist? · UK Column Radio

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  Speaker 1: School is appropriately named because I don't know you're from Australia,
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  Speaker 1: is that right?
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  Speaker 2: South Africa?
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  Speaker 1: South Africa? Sorry, yeah, I was in South Africa for
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  Speaker 1: a while, but I don't know if they use the
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  Speaker 1: same word. But when you school somebody, that's not a
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  Speaker 1: positive thing, right, You're abusing them or something. So it's
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  Speaker 1: not an accident that they named the prison place that
• 1:08
  Speaker 1: they send children to school, and what they learn in
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  Speaker 1: there is how not to think. And they've been at
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  Speaker 1: it for a long time, you know, at least one
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  Speaker 1: hundred and fifty years of mandatory school and they're very successful.
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  Speaker 1: You know. People often talk about schools are failing and
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  Speaker 1: blah blah blah. Right, we hear that a lot. It's
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  Speaker 1: not true. It's just that their intention is to keep
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  Speaker 1: people thinking illiterate, or I like to call it scientifically illiterate.
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  Speaker 1: So when you have a scientifically illiterate population led by
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  Speaker 1: scientists and medical doctors who are equally scientifically illiterate, then
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  Speaker 1: this is what happens. Let me just give you an example,
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  Speaker 1: which I've given many times. I stole it from somebody.
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  Speaker 1: The example is in science is a in logic. So
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  Speaker 1: we're not just talking about science we're talking about thinking
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  Speaker 1: is not a matter of competing theories. It's a matter
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  Speaker 1: of somebody makes a claim and then you try to
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  Speaker 1: falsify the claim. So first step is if you can't
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  Speaker 1: falsify the claim, it's a belief. And there's nothing wrong
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  Speaker 1: with believing things, but one shouldn't call it science or thinking.
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  Speaker 1: So like if you say God created the earth in
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  Speaker 1: seven days, like, I don't know if that's true or not,
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  Speaker 1: and I don't know how to falsify it. And so
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  Speaker 1: some people believe it and some people don't, and that's fine,
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  Speaker 1: but that's not science. And so and another one is,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I've used this a lot. Asian guy eighteen
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  Speaker 1: his parents or Caucasian, looks at his parents closet, finds
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  Speaker 1: adoption papers, realizes he never saw his parents picture of
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  Speaker 1: his mother pregnant, goes to them and said is it true,
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  Speaker 1: and said, yeah, we got you from orphanage in China
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  Speaker 1: and you were adopted and we didn't want to tell
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  Speaker 1: you because I upset you and all that. So that's
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  Speaker 1: very clear. So he goes to his friend says, I'm
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  Speaker 1: a little shook up because I just found out I
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  Speaker 1: was adopted from China, And he says, so, who are
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  Speaker 1: your real parents? He says, I don't know. He says,
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  Speaker 1: until you tell me who your real parents are, I
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  Speaker 1: don't believe you are adopted. That's crazy. How many doctors
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  Speaker 1: I've said, there's no evidence that measles has caused by
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  Speaker 1: a virus, or there is a measles virus, and you
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  Speaker 1: know what they say, So what causes measles? Who are
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  Speaker 1: your real parents? They don't know how to think. There
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  Speaker 1: is a claim measles specific disease, which itself isn't true,
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  Speaker 1: and it's caused by a particle which has been found,
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  Speaker 1: identified and characterized and shown to be the cause of
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  Speaker 1: this problem. That is the claim, and that claim has
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  Speaker 1: been falsified. Therefore, whether I or anybody else knows why
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  Speaker 1: somebody gets a rash is irrelevant. They're not adopted. And
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  Speaker 1: I was a doctor for forty years at year thirty five,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know that rule.
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  Speaker 2: Why because you hadn't been thinking?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I wrote a and here's here. So this
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  Speaker 1: may sound like touting my own horn, but I would
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  Speaker 1: say I was in the elite of questioning things, right,
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  Speaker 1: So how do I have here? What's the evidence? I wrote?
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  Speaker 1: A book the heart doesn't pump the blood. I wrote
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  Speaker 1: a book that blocked arteries don't cause heart attacks. I
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  Speaker 1: wrote a book that cancer has nothing to do with
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  Speaker 1: genetics and DNA has nothing to do with heredity. I
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  Speaker 1: wrote a book about vaccines are neither safe or effective.
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  Speaker 1: I eventually wrote a book that there's no such thing
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  Speaker 1: as a virus. All that time, I didn't know the
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  Speaker 1: basic fundamental rules of logic and science. Why I was
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  Speaker 1: schooled are stupid one of the two. I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Do you regret to being in medicine in the established
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  Speaker 2: scenes for so long?
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  Speaker 1: Do I regret it? No? I don't regret most anything
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  Speaker 1: in my life. I mean, you know, I got married
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  Speaker 1: and divorced and that was like horrible, but I don't
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  Speaker 1: regret it. I learned a lot about who I am
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  Speaker 1: as a person, and you know, what a father and
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  Speaker 1: a husband should be and isn't. And I mean, I've
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  Speaker 1: made all kind of mistakes in the world, and the
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  Speaker 1: problem is I have the paper trail to prove it.
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  Speaker 1: So I could try to fool people into thinking, oh,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't make any mistakes, and then they'd show me
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  Speaker 1: the thing and I'd say, oh wow, it's a problem.
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  Speaker 2: But Tom, if you able to change your perspective, your
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  Speaker 2: paradigm while being a doctor, that means anybody can. But
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  Speaker 2: what triggered did that change in me?
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  Speaker 1: You mean?
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  Speaker 2: Yes?
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  Speaker 1: You know. It's interesting because many people who get into
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  Speaker 1: alternative medicine are so called alternative or whatever, often have
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  Speaker 1: a story of they were sick and they couldn't get better,
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  Speaker 1: and then they fasted or ate bananas or whatever and
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  Speaker 1: they got better. I never had any story like that,
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  Speaker 1: but I got this following from mister Rogers. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if you know mister Rogers, but he was talking
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  Speaker 1: and talking to somebody about why they were so interested
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  Speaker 1: in finding the truth and not believing authority. And it
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  Speaker 1: turns out that their father was basically a jerk, and
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  Speaker 1: so they learned at a young age that people in
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  Speaker 1: authority who supposedly tell you the truth are full of it.
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  Speaker 1: And I had a similar story. And not only that,
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  Speaker 1: but I grew up in an environment of very prestigious doctors,
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  Speaker 1: like the guy who started laser surgery in guynecology was
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  Speaker 1: he delivered me and he was one of our best friends.
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  Speaker 1: And this guy who started immunotherapy for cancer until they
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  Speaker 1: threw him in Jay for medicare fraud. But he was
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  Speaker 1: also in our circle of friends. So I was very
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  Speaker 1: familiar with people in authority, especially men, and especially scientists
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  Speaker 1: doctors are full of it, and so it wasn't unusual
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  Speaker 1: for me to think, uh, well, let's look into it.
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  Speaker 1: So it wasn't anything except it didn't make sense. You know,
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  Speaker 1: if somebody says, you know, there's a virus, I say,
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  Speaker 1: how do you know that? And then they told me,
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  Speaker 1: and I think you got to be kidding, Like that's
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  Speaker 1: that's irrational, illogical, anti scientific thinking. So I don't believe it.
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  Speaker 1: There's nothing more than that.
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  Speaker 2: What is a virus?
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  Speaker 1: They say? Right, it's like asking what is a unicorn?
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  Speaker 1: A virus? They say, So, here's the claim. A virus
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  Speaker 1: is an obligate intracellular parasite that has a certain size,
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  Speaker 1: you know, like ten microns about up to one hundred.
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  Speaker 1: It has a protein exterior, It has a genome either
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  Speaker 1: RNA or DNA, and it uses the cell that's why
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  Speaker 1: it's it to replicate, and then as it emerges from
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  Speaker 1: the cell, that's how it causes disease. That's the that's
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  Speaker 1: the claim. So you know that the way to break
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  Speaker 1: that down is, so there's a claim of a physical particle, right,
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  Speaker 1: that you can photograph and has certain characteristics. That's the claim.
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  Speaker 1: Remember I said, so, we don't need to know what
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  Speaker 1: causes measle we're just investigating that claim now that I
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  Speaker 1: think the best way for people to understand it is
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  Speaker 1: if you claim there's a hammer, right, what do you
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  Speaker 1: do to prove it? I say, Jeremy, how do you
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  Speaker 1: prove there's a hammer?
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  Speaker 2: I'll show it to you.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so let me see if you agree with this.
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  Speaker 1: You go to the place where you'd expect to find it,
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  Speaker 1: like a toolbox. You open it up, take out the
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  Speaker 1: thing that you've identified as a hammer, and say, here
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  Speaker 1: it is, and then you can characterize it. Here's what
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  Speaker 1: it's made of, and you can hit a nail with
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  Speaker 1: it and see if it knocks in the nail.
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  Speaker 2: That's correct.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, Okay, let's do a frog. How do you do
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  Speaker 1: a frog?
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  Speaker 2: Well, we'll go to a pond and we'll look for it,
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  Speaker 2: and we'll point it out because it has those characteristics, right.
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  Speaker 1: And except probably you have a net and so would
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  Speaker 1: you agree that the difference is how you actually isolate it?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, because if it's mixed with other weird fish and animals.
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  Speaker 2: You need to take the frog out and say, well,
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  Speaker 2: this is the frog.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And so the difference with that and a hammer
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  Speaker 1: is a hammer you just see it, and a frog
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  Speaker 1: you have to get a net. Right, But it's otherwise
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  Speaker 1: the same step. You go to the ecosystem where you
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  Speaker 1: expect to find a frog, you have a definition of
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  Speaker 1: what you think it is, You isolate it with a
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  Speaker 1: technique like a net, and then you can characterize it
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  Speaker 1: and see if it eats flies. If I said, okay,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to prove that hammer's knocking nails. So I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to go to a toolbox and I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: hit the deal with a toolbox without seeing if there's
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  Speaker 1: a hammer in there or not, what would you say,
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  Speaker 1: would that prove that there's a hammer?
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  Speaker 2: No, you need the hammer.
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  Speaker 1: You need to hammer. If I say frog, I can
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  Speaker 1: prove that frogs eat flies, and I can put some
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  Speaker 1: flies in the pond. I don't know whether there's a
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  Speaker 1: frog in there or not, And I come the next
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  Speaker 1: day and there's fewer flies. Does that prove that frogs
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  Speaker 1: eat flies? Right? That's obvious, Right, That's how people think
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  Speaker 1: it's the same with bacteria, same with nanoparticles. The only difference.
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  Speaker 1: You go to a mouth, find some bacteria, isolate it,
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  Speaker 1: see what it's made of, see what it does. Right,
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  Speaker 1: So if you get if you're talking now about a virus,
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  Speaker 1: so the only difference is the technique right of isolation.
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  Speaker 1: So if you take if you go to a person
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  Speaker 1: who you claim has a viral infection, covid, measles, chicken pox, smallpox,
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  Speaker 1: hoof and mouth disease, whatever, and look through all their
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  Speaker 1: bodily fluids and the chicken pox lesions, and the blisters,
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  Speaker 1: and the mucus and the snot and everything, the urine,
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  Speaker 1: the blood, can you find that particle? Because there are
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  Speaker 1: easily techniques of finding things of that size, right that
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  Speaker 1: any analytical chemist will tell you that the answer is no,
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  Speaker 1: can't find it. Now, that's weird, right, And I'll probably
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  Speaker 1: say the words that's weird many times because if somebody said, Jeremy,
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  Speaker 1: there's a bunch of frogs in this pond, and you
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  Speaker 1: look through the whole pond and nobody ever has ever
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  Speaker 1: found a frog, you would be hard pressed to be
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  Speaker 1: convinced that they were right. Right. So the CDC, the
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  Speaker 1: nih Pastor Institute, Robert Coke Institute. Everybody says there's no
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  Speaker 1: evidence of any particle that meets our definition directly in
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  Speaker 1: the fluids of any sick person or animal or plant.
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  Speaker 1: That's clear. Everybody agrees. If you ask them, why can't
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  Speaker 1: you find it? Like we have the tools, they say
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  Speaker 1: there's not enough to find, which is weird because like
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  Speaker 1: if there's not enough frogs to find or hammers, you
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  Speaker 1: might be suspicious that they're not actually there.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, but then let me play Devil's advocate, because the
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  Speaker 2: accounter argument is always the same. Well, that's why you
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  Speaker 2: have PCR for example.
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  Speaker 1: Well we'll get to that, okay, because we just to
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  Speaker 1: say we don't want to do reification fallacies, which means,
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  Speaker 1: you know, unicorns are gentle. In order to say that,
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  Speaker 1: you first have to have a unicorn true, right, otherwise
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  Speaker 1: you're reifine, meaning putting properties on something you haven't shown
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  Speaker 1: actually as real yet. So we'll get to the PCR.
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  Speaker 1: So okay, so we haven't we can't isolate the thing, right,
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  Speaker 1: We're not talking about a feeling or an emotion or
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  Speaker 1: a conception. We're talking about a thing from the ecosystem.
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  Speaker 1: Unlike just about everything else that we say is real.
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  Speaker 1: So then the question is, so, how do they isolate
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  Speaker 1: the virus? Right, because that's the key point, because there's
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  Speaker 1: at least ten thousand papers called the isolation of such
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  Speaker 1: and such a virus. So let's do polio, because that
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  Speaker 1: was one of the first. So they took a child
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  Speaker 1: who died of paralysis. Right, they said that was a
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  Speaker 1: disease called polio. They saw that their spine was diseased, right,
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  Speaker 1: not right, and they grounded up in a blender, put
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  Speaker 1: it through a filter, injected that into the brain of
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  Speaker 1: two monkeys, mixed with some chemicals. One monkey died and
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  Speaker 1: one monkey got paralyzed, and they said they isolated the virus.
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  Speaker 1: They did it for fifty years, probably one hundred thousand monkeys,
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  Speaker 1: and then in nineteen fifty three, some guy I don't
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  Speaker 1: remember his name decided to take a normal person spine
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  Speaker 1: died of car accident or something, do the same thing,
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  Speaker 1: grind it up, filter it, injected into this brain of
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  Speaker 1: two monkeys. You know what happened to the monkeys? They died.
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  Speaker 1: And he said, well, that means that wasn't actually a virus.
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  Speaker 1: It was just in monkeys. Don't like having stuff at
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  Speaker 1: chemicals and dead spine injected into their brain, which I
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  Speaker 1: could have told them that anyways. Right, So that was
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  Speaker 1: nineteen fifty three, so fifty years almost. That's how they
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  Speaker 1: isolated the polio virus. And then it's an interesting time
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  Speaker 1: because the next year they had a new way of
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  Speaker 1: isolating a virus, which has been done ever since. Let
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  Speaker 1: me repeat that, because every isolation of every virus since
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  Speaker 1: nineteen fifty four has been done in the way I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to describe. It was started with a paper by
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  Speaker 1: guy named Enders got a Nobel prize. He took somebody
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  Speaker 1: with measles, took their mucus, filtered it a little bit,
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  Speaker 1: just to get rid of some debris, added that to
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  Speaker 1: growing culture of monkey kidney cells, added kidney poison antibiotics,
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  Speaker 1: took away the nutrients, added trips, and waited four or
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  Speaker 1: five days the kidney cells died. He said that proves
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  Speaker 1: the kidney cells were killed by a virus. Then, interestingly,
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  Speaker 1: he did the same thing, except he didn't add anything
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  Speaker 1: from anybody with measles, the kidney poison, antibiotics, to take
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  Speaker 1: away the food, the trips, and all the other chemicals.
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  Speaker 1: You know what happened, same thing. He said, it's indistinguishable.
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  Speaker 1: In other words, he proved that it wasn't even anything
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  Speaker 1: from anybody with measles, and that became the isolation of
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  Speaker 1: the virus.
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  Speaker 2: Until this day.
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  Speaker 1: Until this day, every syrus cove two, every smallpox, every poliovirus,
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  Speaker 1: every Hanta pneumonia virus, every bird flu virus has been
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  Speaker 1: isolated using that exact same technique. Sometimes they change the
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  Speaker 1: cell line, sometimes they change the antibiotics, sometimes they change
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  Speaker 1: you know, the nutrient broth, et cetera. But it's basically
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  Speaker 1: the same. And we proved, we being Stephan link at Us,
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  Speaker 1: we did experiments doing these taking cell cultures, mixing in
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  Speaker 1: with the same antibiotics, taking away the nutrients. They all
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  Speaker 1: broke down the same as if you added a sample
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  Speaker 1: from somebody who's supposedly had a virus. Now let's get
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  Speaker 1: to your to the next thing. But Tom, you idiot,
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  Speaker 1: They have pictures of it, right, So they take that
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  Speaker 1: broken down cell culture and they mix it with they
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  Speaker 1: freeze it and they dehydrate it and they powder it
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  Speaker 1: and they put heavy metal stains on it, and then
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  Speaker 1: they show you a picture of it. That's the herpes virus.
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  Speaker 1: That's cyrus cove two, that's the poliovirus. There's twenty papers
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  Speaker 1: in the medical literature of taking a kidney tissue no
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  Speaker 1: virus from before two thousand doing the same thing, grinding it,
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  Speaker 1: freezing it, heavy metal stains, exact same picture proving those
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  Speaker 1: pictures are not something from the outside, they're from broken
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  Speaker 1: down kidney tissue. Or they now know that fetal bovine
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  Speaker 1: serum which is added to every cell culture. Every cell
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  Speaker 1: culture has fetal b bovine serum. They all have particles
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  Speaker 1: which they say are indistinguishable from viruses, meaning nobody knows
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  Speaker 1: that those pictures are anything. In fact, we've proven those
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  Speaker 1: pictures are broken down either from the cell culture, the
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  Speaker 1: kidney cells, or from fetal bovine serum which has lots
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  Speaker 1: of little particle stuff. Okay, so there's no pictures of
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  Speaker 1: that are proven to be viruses. Now, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: that broken down cell culture, right with the antibiotics and
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  Speaker 1: the fetal bovines that is then injected into people under
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  Speaker 1: the name of a vaccine. That's what a measles vaccine is.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, now here's the piece. So they take the
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  Speaker 1: broken down cell culture. They've never found the virus. Right.
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  Speaker 1: In fact, they've disproven that the breakdown of the cell
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  Speaker 1: is from a virus. They've disproven that the pictures are
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  Speaker 1: from a virus. And they've got fifty six million little
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  Speaker 1: pieces of RNA or DNA that come from what the
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  Speaker 1: cell culture, the fetal bovine serum, the host contamination from
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  Speaker 1: mosquitoes that flew up your nose, whatever. Right, they don't
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  Speaker 1: know where any of this comes from. So they take it,
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  Speaker 1: chop it up into little pieces. Then they tell the
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  Speaker 1: computer to align that into a long string. It's like
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  Speaker 1: giving a computer fifty six million words and say make
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  Speaker 1: war and peace in the computer if it has any sense.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if computers have sense, but it would say,
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  Speaker 1: can you show me Warren Peace and then I can
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  Speaker 1: make sure I get it right. No, you have to
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  Speaker 1: come up with Warren Peace without ever having seen a
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  Speaker 1: copy of Warren Peace, Like, how would you do that?
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  Speaker 2: It's not possible.
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  Speaker 1: It's not possible. So in the case of Syr's cove two,
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  Speaker 1: they came up with one point two million possibilities and
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  Speaker 1: then they chose the longest one, and that is the
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  Speaker 1: genome of Syr's Cove two. Then everybody after that takes
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  Speaker 1: one that long genome, that long string, they pretend that's
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  Speaker 1: actually Warren Peace. And then they tell the computer with
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  Speaker 1: the next culture to make it as close to Warren
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  Speaker 1: piece that one as possible. So it does, but it
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  Speaker 1: gets some of it wrong and that's called a variant.
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  Speaker 1: And then they take some of those little pieces and
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  Speaker 1: that's called PCR primers, and they say, if we find
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  Speaker 1: these pieces, that means it's from war and peace. And
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  Speaker 1: then to top it off, and this is really important
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  Speaker 1: for your listeners. And I don't know if even you
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  Speaker 1: know this. When they did cyrus Cove two, they made
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  Speaker 1: a genome which had pieces in it which actually didn't
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  Speaker 1: even come from the fifty six million words. This takes
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of thinking. So imagine you have fifty
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: six million words and you arrange them into a book, right,
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: and now you have a book. You don't know if
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: that's a real book or not, right, you just made
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: up the book. And then in chapter three are the
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: words or the sentence to be or not to be?
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: That is the question. And yet you can't find those
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: sequence of words in the in the data. And so
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: anybody looking at that would say, wait, a minute, How
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: did you get a piece from hamlet in War and Peace?
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: Somebody must have put that in deliberately, and that was
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: the original Wuhan fan Wu paper. They put a sequence
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: in there that they took from the from the imaginary
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: HIV virus. They inserted it into the final genome. So
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: it's a double fraud, first of or triple there's no
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: HIV genome, there's no Sarr's cove two genome, and they
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: deliberately put it in there to make people think it
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: was a lab created virus. Now how do I know
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: that because we actually were the only ones who said, okay,
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: let's take the original data and run it and see
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: if you can get the to be or not to
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: be part and you can't. In other words, they put
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: it in deliberately to scam people, and then they got
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: Kennedy and Sax and Big Tree and Malone and Kersh
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: to sell that turkey to the to the world and
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: now Trump and now Trump and all the rest of them.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: So there was no Sar's cove two genome that was
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: made up. There is no HIV genome that was made up,
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: and then they inserted the one into the other to
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: make that any virologists looking at that, just like any
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: English teacher if they see, here's a book about here's
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: war and peace, and then chapter three it says it
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: was the best of times, it was the worst of times.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: I think that comes from Dickens. He would say, wait
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: a minute, this isn't the right, This isn't just a
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: natural variant of war and peace, like this is a
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: deliberate insertion. And I caught you red handed doing it,
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: and they wanted it to be caught so that we
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: would then think, oh, look at these dastardly people. They're
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: gain of functioning viruses, which is like gain of functioning unicorns.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: You can't gain of function something that doesn't exist. So
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: getting back to your question, there is no You can't prue.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: You can't test for a segment of something if you've
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: never had the something. If I say, Jeremy, I went
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: out in my field and I found these toenails, and
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: I know that proves there's a unicorn, because unicorns have toenails.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: It's ridiculous.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: Why not I just showed you the toenail you don't
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: have you have a problem with that?
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: Are you saying that PCR doesn't have a real world application,
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: because I don't understand it entirely. But isn't it an
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: amplification of genetic material? Isn't that what they used?
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: They alleged genetic material. They supposedly make more of certain
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: segments than were there originally. But the question of a
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: PCR or any test has to be validated. In other words,
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: how do you know that that came from the virus?
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: In order answer, how do you know that toenail came
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: from a unicorn? Town Show me the unicorn with the
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: tail with the toenail on it. No, show me the virus. Okay,
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: I'll isolate the virus. How do you isolate the virus?
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: I already told you that you put snot on a
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: cell culture and it breaks down. That's called isolation of
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: the virus. Even though you can do the same thing
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: without adding snot and it still breaks down, proving that
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: it has nothing to do even with the snot, let
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: alone a virus. And then you have to prove that
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: no other organism in the world has those chemicals in it,
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: because if you do, and you got the sample from you,
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: how do you know it didn't come from you? How
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: do you know that toenail wasn't from a cat, Well,
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: you better have a unicorn and a cat and show
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: that they're But if you don't have a unicorn, because
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: you've never isolated, and you don't have a picture of it,
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: and you don't have a genome of it, except that
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: was made in a computer random selection of a certain
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: one out of one million possible sources, and you have
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: no way of knowing which one is correct because you
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: don't have anything to compare it to.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: Again, the counter argument is what happens when people get
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: collectively ill.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: We already know it's not a virus, right, so it's
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: something else, Yeah, something else now once you So if
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: a person is still using that to evaluate whether there's
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: a virus, then there's nothing to talk about. All they're
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: telling you is they're scientifically illiterate and should you need
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: to go through the rules. But if they say, okay,
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: I understand there's no virus. Now can you help me
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: understand why people get sick or how people get sick?
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: So the first thing I would say about that is
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: what I learned in thirty five years of doing medicine
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: is what we call sick is incorrect. So let me
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: give you an example. You get a splinter in your
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: finger and you don't take it out. What happens next?
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: It gets infected and it gets swiss not infected.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: How do you know it's infected? Just when you I
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: always tell people when they talk to me, think like
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: a six year old. You don't know. Just what do
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: you see? Red swollen puffs? Right? You agree? Yep, okay?
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: And then what happens? The splinter comes out? Right? So
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: is the red pus dwelling pain? Is that the therapy?
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: Or is that a disease?
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: It's your body trying to remove the splinter.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: It's the therapy for the splinter. That's how your body
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: gets rid of splinters. Right, It's not an infection, that's
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: an abstract concept. So what about if we put debris
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: in your lungs like smoke and particulate matter and chemtrel dust,
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: and you know what happens next.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: I'll definitely feel terrible.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: And you get a cough right yes, and mucus yes,
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: And you try to cough up the mucus. Yes, And
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: then go to the doctor and he says you have bronchitis.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: Yes?
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: Is the cough mucus feel terrible? Is that the therapy
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: for the debris or is that a disease?
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll see what you're saying. So your body is
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: trying to get rid of that toxin.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: Right, so it coughs it out. Yes, So only a
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: fool would try to keep it in your body, or
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: a medical doctor. So you can see that what we
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: call disease is actually your body's attempt to heal. So
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: a lot of people have houses. I don't know if
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: you have a house, yes, And a lot of people
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: have like an entrance or a foyer to their house.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: So what if somebody comes and puts a whole lot
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: of stinky garbage in your foyer? What do you do next,
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: your six year old, I'll take it out how I
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: want details? Okay, So I'll go to it. I'll pick
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: it up, and I'll take it outside to the binon
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: or whatever. Yeah. You put it in a bag, yeah,
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: or a can or something.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: Right again, I don't want to put words in your mouth.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: You scoop it up, put it in a bag, take
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: it tup to the garage, and then when the garbage
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: people come, you take it out to the curb and
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: they it up right. Okay, what if somebody puts garbage
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: in the house called your body. What do you do.
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: Well, you would you would do the same thing in
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: a sense, put it in a bag, yes, call the tumor, right,
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: and that's stinky garbage, and then you would take it
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: out to the curb. That's called detoxification, sweating, pooping, diarrhea, coughing,
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: et cetera. But what if they keep putting garbage in
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: your house and then your garage gets full, then you
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: put it in the spare bedroom, and then you can't
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: take it out fast enough, and then you put it
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: in the living room, and then the kitchen and then
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: the master bedroom, and then your wife leaves you, and
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: then you then you have to move right, So, same
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: thing you put garbage in your body or your house
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: called your body, you put it in your breast or
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: your prostate, and then get that gets full, and then
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: you put it in your liver and your brain and
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: your bones, and then you can't live there anymore, and
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: we call that dying. And it's all because you kept
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: accumulating garbage, and because people called doctors tried to keep
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: you from getting out the garbage. So every time you
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: coughed and sweated and had heat to burn it off,
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: they stopped you from doing that, and so then you
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: accumulated more garbage, and then they say, well, now you
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: have cancer, so we have to put more garbage in
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: you called chemo, and then you die. Now I started
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: thinking about this in medical school because I asked an oncologist, so,
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: how does the cancer get from the breast to the liver?
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: And he said, it goes through the bloodstream.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: Right, that's what they say. So I said, can you
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: show it to me in the blood the cancer cells? No?
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: Why not? You just said it goes through the blood.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: We can't show it to you. There's not enough to see.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: Same with the virus thing. So how did the garbage
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: get from your garage to your spare bedroom. Obviously it
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: crawled through the hallway. No it didn't. You You chose
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: because the one area was full, to put it in
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: another area. Same with your body. The breast or the
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: prostate got full, so you put it in the next organ,
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: which may be your liver or your bones, and then
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: the next organ because you don't know how to get
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: rid of it, just like what had happened with your house.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: And so the whole idea we have of why did
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: I get sick? Means somebody poisoned you, or you're starving,
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: or you have toxic emotions or psychological stress, or you
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: fell off a horse, or you have delusional ideas. That's
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: the main one. Like there's viruses.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: I remember last year I was in Asia and I
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: flew back. Now this was the first time I actually
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: thought about this. When I flew back, I got a
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: bit of a respiratory illness about one or two days
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: after getting home, and then I suddenly realized my whole life.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: I would have been told, well, you picked up a
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: bug from somebody on the aeroplane. Yeah, But I thought, no,
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: it's so obvious that I literally come from a different
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: part of the world, different climate, different temperature, different hemisphere,
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: different season, lack of sleep, different food. The list of
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: variables goes on and on and on.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: And they sprayed really toxic stuff in the airplane. Yeah,
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: that you breathed in. Yes, and that your body said,
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: let's try to get rid of this because we're smart.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: You know, when people say, Tom, didn't you learn anything
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: of use in medical school? I say, yes. Day one
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: of medical school, a guy got up and said, everybody,
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: remember that the dumbest kidney is smarter than the smartest nephrologist.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: And I've always remembered that because it's true. Your body knew.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: I don't like this aerosol shit that they sprayed on
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: the plane. So I'm going to put it in some
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: a flow device called mucus and cough it up and
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: make sure I rest for a day or so so
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: I get rid of it, and now you're fine. That's why,
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: when you know, here's some suggestion for people. You know,
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: even though I'm talking a lot, I guess because maybe
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: that's my job. If I'm in a conversation with somebody,
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: I never tell them what I think. I just ask
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: them questions. My goal is to get them to hear
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: themselves say nonsense. How do you know somebody there's a virus? Well,
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: the consensus of scientists is there's a virus. So I
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: ask them what percentage of scientists have to say there's
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: a there's a virus before it's true? Ninety eight percent.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: So if three percent say it's not true, then it's
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: not true. Well that's ridiculous. Or I say, how do
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: you how what is a virologist? How do they go
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: in and prove there's a virus? So they say, well,
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: there's a consensus of virologists. So, in other words, a
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: virologist goes to work, puts on his hazmat suit and
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: they all sit around a table and they say, how
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: many you think there's a virus. They all raise their hand.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: There we go, we got a new paper, new virus.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: That's how they do it. Well, no, they do it experiment. Okay,
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: what's the experiment? I don't know. So in other words,
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: you believe that they're doing but you have no friggin
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: idea what they did. That's like going to a car
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: mechanic and saying, you know, I come to the red
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: light and my car doesn't stop, and I don't wonder
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: what's wrong. You think it could check my brakes, and
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: he says to you, what's a break? And you think,
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: I think I'm going to go to a different car mechanic.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: So again, if you say, okay, Tom, you know I
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: uncle Harry went to church and there was people who
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: were coughing, and then he got sick, and then you know,
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: Ann Hilda, she got sick, and then the cat got sick,
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: and we all got sick. So it must be a virus, right,
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: That's what they say. So I say to them So
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: you mean if two or more people or animals get
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: same symptoms, same time, same place, that means something was
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: transmitted from one to the other. Is that right? Yes,
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: they say, okay, you put one hundred rats in the basement,
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: somebody puts rat poison in there. Next day, all hundred
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: rats bleed to death, same symptoms, same time, same place.
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: That means rat poison is a contagion. Well, no, that's
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: because we know it was rat poison. So if you
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: didn't know that they put rat poison, then you would
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: know that it was a contagion. So in other words,
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: if they did it and didn't tell you they were
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: putting rat poison, then you could say it was a
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: contagion instead of just rat poison.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: So what happens then, do you think in a situation
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: like a chicken box party?
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: Right? So, Daniel Reutis, a friend of mine, has written
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: a book Can You Catch a Cold? So people have
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: for one hundred years looked at do well people are
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: so sorry? Sick people or animals make well? People or
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: animals sick because obviously you can't tell, right, That's why
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: say the rat example, you don't see a virus, you
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: don't see transmission. You don't see one child making another
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: child sick. All you see is same symptoms, same time,
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: same place, and you don't know what the cause of that.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: So you can do it an experiment where you can
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: take one hundred children and then put ten children who
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: allegedly have chicken pox, whatever that is, in the room,
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: same room, same teacher, same yelling at them, same food,
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: same air, same everything, and then put ten well children
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: and see if they get sick. And as far as
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: I know, there is no study that shows that that's
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: how it happens. And when I tell people that, they say, well,
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: but I got you know, and Hilda God sick, and
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: then I don't want another and Hild the story. I
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: want a scientific demonstration that the only variable was the
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: sick animal or the sick children making well animals or
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: human sick. And as far as I know, that doesn't exist. Now,
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: I think it's true that you know, being around other
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: people like you know, women, men straight the same and
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: we yawn. So animals and people communicate with each other
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: in all kinds of ways. But transmission of contagious germs
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: has been disproven, disproven, So if you still believe that
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: it's not because it's because you're scientifically illiterate.
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: Basically, this entire discussion has focused on viruses, and people
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: often ask, yeares, but what about bacteria and other gems?
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: We can see them under a microscope.
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: So right, they actually exist. Which because again if you
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: go back to how do you find out a frog
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: in this case, you go to a mouth or skin
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: and you can find bacteria. Right simple. Now the next question,
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: how do you prove that the hammer knocks in the nail?
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: You take only the hammer and you hit a nail
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: and see if it goes in the wall. And then
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: you go like this with your hand, right, because maybe
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: it was just the hand doing that, and then maybe
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: you think nail go in. Doesn't go in, right at
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: least as far as every time I've tried, that doesn't
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: go in. And so it's only the hammer hitting the hammer,
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: the nail with the hammer. So you do that with bacteria,
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: it's very simple. You take only bacteria, not bacteria and
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: arsenic like paste or did not stinky air with TB
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: bacteria like coke? Did you know?
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: Not other stuff. You don't hit the nail with the toolbox.
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: You hit the nail with the hammer. Okay, so you
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: take backteria. Any bacteria expose those to you know, healthy
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: people make them sick. Here's again a challenge for all
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: your listeners. We don't know one study where that's been
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: shown to be true. Doesn't happen. There is no study
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: of an isolated bacteria making otherwise well people or animals sick.
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: If you don't believe me, show me the study, and
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: I will come back on your show and say, yep,
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: I was wrong.
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: What was that whole story then about that enters in
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: an envelope or something.
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: First of all, it was a story, right, And here's
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: you know, the antrax interesting thing because they have normal antrax,
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: which is just spores of the bacteria. And then this
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: goes even back all the way to past tour. They
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: have enhanced antrax because normal antrax spores don't make anybody sick,
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: but enhanced antrax spores are mixed with arsenic and Jeremy,
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: that's just it's just normal. That's just because that helps
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: the anthrax spores be healthy and grow, and like, don't
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: worry about it. It's not that arsenic does anything to you.
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: Even though you can actually show that you could powder
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: arsenic and have the same thing happen without the anthrax,
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: but don't worry about that. So they put enhanced antrax
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: spores and lo and behold, people get sick. That's because
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: it's the answer ax.
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: Somebody asked me a few days ago on X okay,
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: but will you let yourself be bitten by a dog
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: with rabies? Well, firstly, no, I don't want to get bitten,
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: but rabies. What do you make of that?
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: I like rabies because all the medical doctors bring up rabies.
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: So it happened. If you can indulge me, I have
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: my rabies faction because I want to get the numbers right, right,
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: So here's the facts about rabies. So according to the CDC, right, so,
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: the authoritative source in the United States, between nineteen eighty
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: and nineteen ninety six, there was thirty two patients who
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: had rabies. Forget about is it a specific disease and
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: all that, which it isn't, but let's just say it is.
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: Seven of those had an animal exposure. Twenty five of
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: them have no recollection of being around or in any
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: contact with any animal. In other words, seventy eight percent
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: had nothing to do with an animal. Now, then they
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: looked from nineteen ninety six until twenty twenty four. I
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: think it was maybe twenty twenty three, I'm not sure.
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: Thirty seven human cases, thirty acquired in the US, thirty
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: acquired in the US. Of those, thirty, twenty eight percent
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: said they never were exposed to an animal, So what
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: the hell happened to them? Then they talk about if
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: an animal drinks. You know, animals who have rabies allegedly don't.
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: They are afraid of water. But if you put like
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: arsenic or mercury in the water and it burns their throat,
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: they will be hydrophobic, right, So that's another thing. Now,
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: in the nineteen hundreds, there was a Philadelphia dog pound.
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: Six thousand vagrant dogs annually came to this dog pound,
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: thousands of bytes. Over twenty five years, over one hundred
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: and fifty thousand dogs went through this place. Zero cases
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: of rabies. In nineteen hundreds, in the hospital in London
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: there was two thousand, six hundred and sixty eight people
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: bitten by dogs, zero cases of rabies, zero death, zero treatment.
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: In nineteen hundreds Saint George's Hospital in London, over four
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: thousand dog bites were registered in the emergency room. Zero
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: cases of rabies. The pathanomonic hallmark in the brain of
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: animals is called Negribodies has been shown to be a
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: soociated with many different conditions. Now, the Pasteur Institute says
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: there were three thousand cases of death from rabies. Every
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: single one of them was treated with the vaccine. So
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: what causes rabies the vaccine? Will they take an animal
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: that's been poisoned, They take their saliva, essentially make a
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: cell culture, and inject that into you numerous times. Now,
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: what do I have to say about people who are
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: bitten by angry dogs? First of all, I have once
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: been bitten by an angry dog. It is not fun.
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: That is the most maybe one of the most terrifying
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: experiences of my life. Not only that, but dogs, like
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: cats and lions, have amazing digestive powers. How do I
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: know that Because I've seen my cat eat the head
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: of a squirrel and I've seen it poop out basically nothing.
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: So somehow it knows how to digest the skull of
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: a squirrel, which is pretty strong digestive enzyme. So you
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: take this dog that can digest ahead of a rabbit,
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: right if you let it, and they inject their digestive
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: enzymes in you and and it's a terrifying, emotionally charged
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: experience like you've never had in your life. That's going
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: to cause some problems like break down to the tissue
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: and you know, necrosis of your skin and muscle, et cetera.
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: And then the bacteria are going to come to clean
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: up the mess. They're not causing an infection, They're just
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: helping resorb the dead tissue. And so it's a problem, right,
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: and you have to manage it and suck the poison
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: out and et cetera. You know, and that takes some skill.
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: But there is no rabies virus. Rabies has never actually
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: been associated even with animal exposure, according to the CDC,
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: and as far as they know, historically, nobody has died
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: of Rabi's bite who wasn't treated with the rabies vaccine,
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: especially the vets they plays in the animals with rabies shots.
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: And I've seen healthy animals you give them raby shots
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: and then months, six months, a year later they're dead
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: from usually neurological problems, seizures, brain tumors, et cetera. It
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: is a you know, I didn't used to be an
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: animal lover, but now that I moved here, and I
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: have four cats and four goats. The what they do
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: to animals is just makes me pissed off.
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: But don't you sympathize a little bit because you were
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: in that space for decades?
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: I should, but I don't. Yeah, I know what you mean, right,
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: I was just as stupid and bamboozled as everybody else.
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: We all were, so I should. Let's say that.
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: Based on what you're saying, Tom, therefore, there is no
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: such thing as an immune system.
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: There is no such thing as an immunes. You know.
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: That's what's called in I'm not an expert in logic,
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: but I think it's called post hoc reasoning. In other words,
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: you make a claim, and then when the claim gets falsified,
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: and then you have a fork in the road, you
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: can either say, yeah, the claim was wrong and I
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: got to look for something else, or you can make
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: up another rationale to keep the claim going. So originally,
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: with this, they said, everybody who's exposed to a person
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: with a virus gets sick. You get exposed to somebody
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: with chicken pox, you get sick. Right, Well, it turns
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: out that's not the case. Everybody can see that some
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: people maybe do and some people. Most people don't. So
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: why is that you falsified that claim? Well, that's because, Jeremy,
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: you have an immune system, so it protects you from
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: getting the virus. And then you say, so what is
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: the immune system based on. It's based on antibodies. Right,
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: So you get chicken pox, you make antibodies to the virus,
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: you never get the virus again, you never get chicken pie.
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: You get measles, you get antibodies to the virus, and
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: you never get the measles again. Right, we all heard that.
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: So let me make that a principle. See if you agree,
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: if you make antibodies, you're immune to the illness, ie,
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: immune to the virus. Okay, that's what they say. So
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: then then you get the flu and you make antibodies,
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: but then you get the flu next year. But that's
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: because the virus was smart. I'm like the measles one.
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: That's a stupid virus, and the measle virus is smart
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: and it knows how to evade your antibodies. Okay. And
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: then nineteen eighty four, the year I graduated medical school,
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: I'm walking down the street, I hear Robert Gallo get
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: on the television say, we found the cause of AIDS, right,
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: it's an HIV virus. How do we know because we
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: found antibodies to the HIV virus in the blood of
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: some people with AIDS. In other words, Jeremy, we all
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: know that if you have antibodies to a virus, that
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: means the virus is going to kill you. And I
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: remember thinking to myself, Wait a minute, I just spent
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: four years learning that if I got antibodies, I'm immune
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: for life to the virus. And this bozo gets on
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: the horn and says, if I have antibodies, that means
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: the virus is going to kill me. Wait a minute.
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: Those both can't be true. Either it means I'm immune
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: or it means the virus is going to kill me.
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: No explanation of how come now antibodies mean you're going
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: to get the virus going to kill you, whereas before
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: it meant you were immune for life. In other words,
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: the whole thing is nonsense.
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: And do antibodies fall under the same problem as varuses
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: that can't be seen.
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: They've never been isolated, never been characterized, never been shown
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: to do anything. So theoretical they are theoretical molecules that
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: were made up in order to convince people that in
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: the beginning that you were immune, and then the HIV
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: thing turned that on its head, and so now it
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: turns out, Jeremy, you can either if you have antibodies,
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: it means you're either immune or you're not immune. That's
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: how that makes sense, right, because those are the only
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: two options there are. If you touch fire, you'll either
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: burn your hand or you won't.
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: When somebody says I'm going to take more vitamin C
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: so that I can get rid of this cold, I mean,
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: what's going on there?
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: Because anybody ever isolated vitamin C I e ascorbic acid
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: from the biological fluids of any living person.
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I suppose not.
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: Well, see that's the question. Now here's the answer. They
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: say they have, just like they say with viruses and antibodies.
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: But then if you're a savvy person, you ask them
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: how did they isolate it? Right? Because people say all
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: kinds of things. Same with hormones. Do you know how
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: they isolate you think you have testosterone in your body,
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: of course, right? How did they isolate it your from
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: your body? You don't know? No, So they took your
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: blood or your testicle, and they mixed it with some acids,
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: and then they ground it up, and then they filtered it,
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: and then they centrifuged it, and then with testosterone. They
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: washed it with acetone seven times, because when they wash
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: it six times, they don't get anything. I'm very interested
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: in the guy who decided to wash it seven times
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: instead of six times. He got a Nobel prize for
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: doing that, by the way. And then I would ask him,
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: how do you know that thing was there without washing
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: it and centrifuging it, mixing it with the acids, et cetera.
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: You know what the answer is, he has no idea.
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: That's the same with Salzkov two. I mean the patient
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: number one.
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, how do you know it's there if you don't
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: mix it with the acids and the acetone and all
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: the rest of it. The same with vitamin C. You
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: take blood and you mix it with different acids and
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: then alkalize and bases and buffers, and then filter it
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: and centrifuge it, and then you get a powder and
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: then you rehydrate it, and then you've got a scorbic acid.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: And then if you ask them, how do you know
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: that that thing was there? In that form in the
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: original person, right without they have no idea, And then
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: of course they say, well, right, but Tom, you don't ask.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: You know, you can't. That's the only way you can
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: find it. I know. That's the only way you can
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: find it, which means you don't know whether it's there.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: It's a belief system, right, because you can't control the experiment.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: You can't say, Okay, I did it without mixing it
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: with this acid and I got the same thing. You
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: can't do that. So the only thing you could say,
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: honestly is I have no idea whether any of these
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: hormones or vitamins or proteins are actually there while you're alive.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: I just there's no way to know that. Fair enough. Now,
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: you can make a belief system and tell yourself a
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: story that you do know it, but the fact of
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: the matter is you don't. Now that's a problem. Now,
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: just let me say. I'm not saying that chemicals made
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: in the laboratory don't have effects, right, But you can
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: take somebody who's like sad, right, and you give them
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: cocaine that's a chemical made in a lab and they.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: Feel better anti de prison.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: Or well, that's complicated. Let's say cocaine, they feel happy,
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: and Jeremy, that proves that the reason people aren't happy
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: is because they're cocaine deficient.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: Go back to the antide prisons.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: But well, there are no neurotransmitters like serotonin and dopamine,
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: same thing. Nobody has ever isolated them intech. There's not
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: even any synapses in nerves. Those are the gaps where
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: the neurotransmitters breached the synapse. And Hillman went through this
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: in detail. The only way they can prove there's they
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: can't take a picture of a synapse. There's no way
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: to do that. So they take a nerve, which is
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: a tube. You can see a nerve, and they dehydrate it.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: It's like taking a thread, right, and you dehydrate it
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: and it breaks and then it rolls up at the
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: edges and there's a gap. And you say, that's the synapse.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: And you say, let me see the synapse without dehydrating
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: the tube because it's made of basically water. Well, no,
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: you can't see it. Then, well, how do you know
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: it's there?
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: I mean, but of course antidepressants all hoti toxic. There's
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: no doubt about that.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: No doubt about it, because there's no evidence that serotonin
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: has anything to do with quote a disease. I mean,
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: the whole disease categorization is is anti biological. They say,
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: somebody who is persistently depressed. So I say, how long
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: do you have to be depressed before you get a
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: diagnosis of depression? Six weeks? So if you're sad for
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: five weeks and twenty three hours, then you're fine. But
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: if you're sad for six weeks, then you have a
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: disease and you need prozac. Like that's not real. That
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: is a arbitrary It's like, you know autism, that's a
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: big thing. Now, how do you know somebody's autistic? Well
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: they flap their hand. Yeah, how often do they have
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: to flap their hand? Ten times a minute? So if
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: you flap your hand nine one two six', nine THEN
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: i don't do it anymore BECAUSE i don't want to
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: be diagnosed with. Autism like that is not a biological.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: Entity that's an arbitrary, designation usually for political.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: Reasons we have a very impoverished view of illness.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: Of life and. Thinking we are, bamboozled actually schooled to
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: learn how to obey and not to. Think and it
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: was very, successful and we believe authority even though we
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: have we don't know how to ask, them you, KNOW i,
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: mean you can do this with nuclear, weapons For god's.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: Sake how do you know there's a? NUCLEUS i have no.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: Idea WELL i, do AND i looked at the study
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: that they proved there was a nucleus and it's total.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: Nonsense so how do you split something which doesn't? Exist
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: and you, know on the face of, it they, say
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: these things that are infinitesimally, small, right like an, atom
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: can you blow it up or somehow you, know manipulated
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: and it can blow up a. CITY i, mean if
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: you think about, that on the face of, it you would,
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: Say i'm not Sure i'm buying. That, like the only
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: THINGS i know that can blow up a city are
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: like really big, bombs you, know and like hundreds and
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: thousands of. Them AND i know that that works Because
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: i've seen. It but not something that's you, know smaller
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: than the smallest thing you can. Imagine it's the same.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: Thing you. Know they've got us, believe you, know a
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: lot of this all starts from. Physics they have people
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: believe in quantum physics right, now right and they believe
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: in what they call quantum do by. Location in other,
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: words things are in two places at the same. Time,
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: right you've heard. That, yeah like my, house, right BECAUSE
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: i have a, house SO i wanted to be in
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: two places at the same. Time that WAY i don't
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: have to build a second. House SO i asked a.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: Physicist he, said, no it's too. Big, okay what about my. Dog,
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: no it's too big because my dog is only in
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: one place at the same. TIME i don't actually have a,
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: dog but, yeah what about a. Bacteria, no they're too.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: Big they're only at the same, place one place at a.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: Time so when does it become the size that it
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: exists at two places at the same. Time the answer
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: is when it's too small to, see in other, words.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: Invisible so how do you know it's not at ten
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: places at the same Time if it's.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: Invisible, well how CAN i follow you?
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: Work that's good because you know IT'S i, MEAN i
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: try to make it into like a comedy, show but
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: it's not really. FUNNY i, mean it's a serious problem
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: because you cannot build a healthy culture on an illiterate.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: Society so the answer to, questions so Doctor Tom cowen
• 1:07:58
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• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: we actually treat, people not, me Because i'm too far
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: gone for. That we treat people based on these principles
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: with doctors who know what they're talking. About so because
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: when you go to a, doctor they're treating you based
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: on disproven. Theories you have an autoimmune, Disease, okay show
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: me the antibody that causes. Disease, no we can't do.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: THAT i mean all, Right Tom, cohn love chatting to.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: You thank you for joining me in the. Changes