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2023 That's a Wrap · Why We Do What We Do

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You're listening to why we do what we do? Welcome to why we do
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what we do? I am your nostalgic wrap up post Abraham and I am
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your What does Pete Holmes say? He talks about how annual like the like
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New Year's is just like us celebrating the truck of the odometer of the Earth
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rolling over, and he's like, it's you know, so I'm the ambibilis
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about the New year? Host shame great, Where's Psychology Podcast? We talk
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about all the psychology things and behavior analysis things and the skeptic things and and
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that's kind of our our stick, if you will. And at the end
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of the year, people don't really listen to us, so we just do
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a quick wrap. That's not why. It's actually just kind of a fun
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reflection. That's what I should have been the reflective host. Oh wow,
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recapitulating her. Maybe in reflection it makes sense exactly. And we just talked
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sort of about the year that has passed, a recap and so this is
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going to be an easy listening, sort of mega recommend maybe it's sort of
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discussion. We're just going to talk about so many things that have happened this
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year. I mean it's going to be short. Actually there's not that.
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I mean, there's a ton that we could discuss, but as it is
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relevant to the podcast, we're going to keep it fairly neutral. We're going
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to talk about some major milestones this year. We're going to do a quick
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recap on our episodes. We're going to talk about our Spotify rapped, because
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that's where we get our actual we actually get our best data analytics from.
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We're going to talk about some of the entertainment that we have consumed this year,
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books, movies, and TV. We're going to reflect on some of
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the people we have lost this year, and we'll probably not find them because
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we mean lost in the euphemistic way where they are no longer with us.
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And then we're going to give some quick recommendations, and then we're going to
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say see you next year. I think in the idea being that we will
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be here next year, and so we hope to see you next year,
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and that you hope to see us next year. It would be a different
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conversation if you did not want to see us, if you were like your
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New year's resolution was not to listen to why we do what we do,
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which would be a real bummer. So hopefully that's not your resolution. Yeah,
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and if it is, do better. Yeah, you know. So
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at the time that this comes out, we hope that you have had a
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wonderful holiday, whatever holidays you were celebrating, and we will wish you a
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happy New Year, assuming you were following the Gregorian calendar, which many of
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you are not. Nope, but happy New Year of to those for whom
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this is relevant, We're so we're wrapping this up. We will see you
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next year and the year after that, and the year after that and the
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year after that for ever. For ever. That was a Sandlot reference,
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by the way, the greatest movie ever made. So this episode comes on
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in December twenty seventh. Let's recognize that today is Post Christmas Ish Day,
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but it's also National Fruitcake Day. Yeah, so there's that. Yeah,
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it's in line with this because like people made it and then nobody ate it
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and so now it's just sitting waiting to That's why it's on the twenty seventh.
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Yeah, it's also International Day of Epidemic Preparedness, which I feel like
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is fairly new given the circumstances over the last four pisure masks get your gloves,
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get your hand sanitizers. Hm, National Make Cutout Snowflakes Day. I
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feel like this one would have preceded Christmas by a little bit. But I
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mean, sure, sure, Yeah, it's also National Visit the Zoo Days,
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so I guess you know, do with that what you will. There's
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an odd time of year to make that the day to go to the zoo,
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which is mostly an outdoor activity, so right, okay. Also,
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it occurs to me that in the Southern Hemisphere National Make Cutout Snowflakes is like
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June depending on that, right, You're so for Australian listeners, they're like
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very confused by that one. Yeah, they're in shorts and tank tops.
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So but I guess that's why it's national and not international. You make a
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very good point. So sorry, Australians, we're not recognizing your national Beach
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where Day or whatever it is, or just do that, or just cut
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snowflakes out in the summer shying too, like the future friends, why not
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be the chaot of good your community needs. That's right. And speaking of
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which, it is Free Balloon Day now, mostly balloons are kind of a
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scourge on our environment, so I'm not sure that I want to encourage that
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much. But if you're wanting to participate, today's day to celebrate. Yeah,
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it's also Howdy Duty Week or how do Duty Day? Sorry, not
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not the week that's too much to celebrate Howdy Duty. So it's Howdy Duty
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Day. I'm not as familiar with that show as I probably should be,
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but I'm given to understand based on his age alone, there's a certain amount
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of racism will probably have to worry about that was embedded in that. But
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sure, for another time. I don't think you're expected to know anything about
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Howdy Duty, Like I don't think there's an expectation for people our age to
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be familiar with that show. That's fair and yet and yet we mentioned it,
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So yeah, there we are. It's about Time week. That sounds
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like a non sequitur, but that is what the week is called. Yes,
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yes it is, so everybody gets your watches. It's also, as
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of twelve twenty six to start at Kwanza. So for those who celebrate so
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yesterday, yeah, so yesterday. I believe you say happy Kwanza. I
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think it's happy Kwansa Mary Kwanza celebratory kwansa A jovial Kwansa to you. Yeah,
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sorry, we don't know. I've tried not to appropriate that custom,
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but I should just know more about it. Maybe we should do an episode
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on Quansa someday. It'd be good. I think we should. You're right,
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and it is happy Kwanza. Great. Okay, let's talk about what
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we've been up to this year, some of the milestones that we've hit,
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some of the things that we've seen. We hit our three hundredth episode this
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year. We are now well pass that and on our way to four hundred
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next year. But yeah, no, not next year actually, because this
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is three forty six and they'll be there, so there are still fifty four
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more weeks before we'll get to four hundred, so that'll actually be twenty twenty
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five that'll hit our four hundredth episode. But nevertheless, for three hundred,
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it was great, it was exciting. We talked about Spartan's So, yeah,
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we have been a podcast running for six years, six and a half
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actually, since we started in May. But that's kind of cool, just
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something to celebrate. That's longer than most podcasts make it. Actually, I
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should get the actual stats on that, but it is like way past the
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average of how long most podcasts actually last. Yeah, so that just tells
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us we haven't learned our lesson. It kind of does, actually, because
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there are podcasts that have come and gone since we started this one that I
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like I listened to and then they petered out and went away, and I
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know for a fact that they were much more listened to than we are.
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Yeah, it's a wild thing, but no, I think that I think
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it's a pretty a pretty great stat to think about. It's a long time
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to put together a lot of content and have it kind of out, and
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I think it's really important for us to kind of pat ourselves in the back.
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We've been consistently every week getting stuff out for six years. I think
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there's Yeah, I think there's maybe like only been one or two weeks that
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there's been a hiccup, but like that's a pretty good streak for a podcast.
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We were late a few times in like the second year of the podcast,
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and I think we maybe missed one altogether, but I don't. I
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think that's it. And we've been Yeah, we've been consistent, and like
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I try and have the episode go out early in the morning every Wednesday,
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but I have been also a little late, and it's gone like later in
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the morning, maybe early afternoon for some people. Yeah, but for the
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most part it's it's been very It has been like clockwork. We've been pretty
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pretty tight on our release. Yeah, it's nice. I started this insane
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project in March tenth of twenty twenty one. I decided I was going to
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read an article, one whole article from the Journal of Applied Behavior Analysis,
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more commonly referred to as JAVA every day or the equivalent. So like if
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I missed a day, than the next day Audrey two, if I missed
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two days, then the next day Auday three, et cetera, just to
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make sure I stay caught up. And this year, December sixth, actually
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I read my one thousandth article from this journal. Wow. I did not
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start the beginning of the journal's history. I started at the issue that I
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had a tangible copy of and then just went from there. Okay, so
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I'm getting close to being caught up to where they're at, but of course
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new issues are coming out four times a year, so it'll take me a
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while to be fully fully caught up up. And then I'm going to go
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back and start at the very beginning, So it's like five more years of
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this at least maybe ten. Yeah, yeah, it's a lot more.
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But yeah, I got to uh because that that actually only covers like that
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thousand articles covers like ten years of content roughly. That's wild. Yeah,
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And the journal's been going since nineteen sixty eight, so there's a lot for
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me to read, and so it has been an interesting experiment in self flagellation
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by via journal reading. But that is where that is where we're at.
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What was the one thousand article? Do you remember? I should remember it's
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actually it's it's out in my bag right now, I believe if I remember
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correctly, it was a replication article that was looking at do other behaviors actually
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increase during a dro I think that was okay, yeah, interesting it It
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was a replication of an article by Jessel Joshua Jessel Okay, okay, josh
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jes School Yeah, I think so. Yeah, super interesting stuff. As
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part of my recap for the year, apparently I learned, according to my
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Spotify rap that I listened to forty five straight days of music forty five or
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fifty four. I said forty five. I meant to say fifty four.
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I listened to fifty four total days of music in the year. Wow,
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that is so so, so much. There's a lot of music to listen
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to. It's like eighty four thousand minutes or something like that. Where do
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you go that's impressive? Yeah, I think so go for one hundred and
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eight next year. Double it. I'm going for it. I'm gonna double
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it. So here, let's recap our episodes that we've talked about. We'll
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do a little bit of time on each I think, or or some kind
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of discussion, I don't know, comments or something. But we started this
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year twenty twenty three with a two part series on immigration. That was an
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interesting and fun series that we did that I think fondly on. Actually many,
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like a lot of the time, I have completely forgotten episodes that we've
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done, and even sometimes we talked about in those episodes, and that will
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be the case for some of these, but that one I actually do remember
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fondly. That one was a lot of fun to put together. This We
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were talking about this before we got on this year. We didn't do any
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interviews. Yeah, and we didn't do a lot of nostalgia episodes, so
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that meant that, like everything that we did during the year was like brand
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new, original stuff. Yeah, I think it's a pretty good feat as
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well. Yeah, we did the John B. Watson episode his biography,
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which you know, you learned that he was probably not the person to write
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parenting books. No, No, he was. He was an interesting maybe
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not catalyst, maybe catalyst. He was an interesting figure that really got a
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lot of attention and shape things around him for a period of time. And
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yeah, not so great ways all the time. Yeah, exactly burned a
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lot of his records of his stuff later in life, so there was that.
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Yeah, it's like he burned all his journals. In response to the
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direction of the world has been going, we decided it was time to talk
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about authoritarianism. I think about this episode two because authoritarianism continues to rear its
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ugly head around the world. We just had a new government come into place
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I think in it wasn't Brazil, somewhere else, Argentina, Yep, that's
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the one. So some countries have sort of swayed a little more liberal and
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freedom oriented, some have gone the opposite. A lot have gone the opposite
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direction into a more authoritarian leaning. You know, I don't understand we've done
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this experiment. Authoritarianism is the worst way to govern people. Yeah, and
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yet they just keep doing it and people keep choosing it for some reason.
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So yeah, it's weird. That was a fun episode though, And I
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think that was one of those episodes where it was really nice that you and
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I. I feel like as the show has been going on a little bit,
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more of our values are starting to show more. Like I think that
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this I think that this podcast has always been kind of like a like very
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very like in line with like the values of getting science out and having those
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discussions, but I think that some of the topics that we're tackling are a
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little bit more like, Oh, I'm having this thought or having this experience
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about this thing, or I'm having a particular emotion about this thing, let's
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explore that. And so it's been kind of fun doing like a values exploration
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on the show. That's a great way of summarizing that. I completely agree.
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Yeah, it's been great. We did an episode on ultra processed foods.
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Yeah, I think about that sometimes there's sort of some controversy around that,
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but yeah, the thing we didn't really dig into like the science of
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nutrition on it, but it was good as we said when we did three
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hundred, we decided to talk about the Spartans just because of the movie three
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hundred, but yeah, the sort of lore around the Battle of Thermophylia.
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So that was kind of cool. Wild time in history. Yeah, speaking
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of wild times in history, we also did we talked about feral people.
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That's really good, you know. And I thought that one was a lot
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of fun because I think kind of coming up in psychology and especially kind of
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getting into behaviorism, we spend so much time hearing the argument of like nature
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versus nurture, like everybody wants to know, and I thought that was a
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really great kind of example of being like, well, here's how context does
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everything to somebody. Yeah, that was actually when I forgot that we had
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done earlier this year, and I do remember the discussion now, but I
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I would if someone said to list some episodes from this year, that would
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not have been on that list if I'd not been looking at it. You
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put together a very nice episode on fan fiction, which was both a lot
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of fun and actually got us some some really nice listener mail that we yead
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some of on the show. So that was cool. That was a cool
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one that one was a lot of fun. I remember kind of getting into
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that and just being like so worried of making sure that I wanted to be
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so respectful of people that write fan fiction because it is like a creative pursuit,
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and like, I really have the value of like not just crapping on
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somebody's creative pursuit if possible, Like I don't want to yuck somebody's yum.
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So I really went in there because I had a particular like bias towards fan
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fiction before going in, and I think I think I came out of it
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a little bit different. I believe that's the one where I learned that Twilight
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was fan fiction for fifty Shades of gray. Yep ye b yup. That's
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it. A few years ago. Maybe it was last year, I don't
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remember, but at least at least last year before we did an episode that
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was unpacking how alcohol made makes us feel drunk, and this year we did
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want unpacking how THHC makes us feel high, and we got to go in
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like the history of like cannabis and where it started probably being cultivated by humans,
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and where it originated and why it works and how it works. And
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that was that was a fun one. I think about that one a lot,
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actually, because there was a lot that I learned from the episode that
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was really fascinating. So I think that was that was a cool one time.
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Yeah, that one was a cool one. I think that's kind of
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leading us to some other topics that we're talking about this year, the possibility
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of doing like psilocybin and LSD and kind of how those work and what they
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do in the therapeutic properties. I mean, we even did did we do
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it this year that we did the one on ketamine? No, that was
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last year. Yeah, that was yeah, good point good. But that
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was like so I like, I like those episodes where it's like how like
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you know, and I can't wait to eventually get to like the mescaline episodes
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and stuff like that and like all the things that that stuff does. We
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also did we did an episode on the bicameral mind hypothesis, which, you
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know, thinking back on that, I don't know that I still I still
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don't know that I understand it. That wa well, yeah, it was
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a weird one, but that one was a little I wanted to bring a
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level of skepticism that I felt like too few people had brought to that conversation
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as it was making it out into the world again, so we needed to
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unpack that with a little more critical eye, if you will. Yes,
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yes, you know, and thinking about this, We've got this like we're
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going to have a suite of episode on drugs, a suite of episode on
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sleep, a suite of episode on politics. There is an emerging suite of
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episode on animals and even potentially a subcategory inside of that that is specifically on
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dogs. Because we did an episode on seizure alert dogs this year, which
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was really cool. That one was really cool. We did a three part
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series on facilitated Communication, some of our best received and widely distributed episode.
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Not the most, but it was up there. I got a lot of
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attention for that. That was a really important series to do. I felt
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really strongly about how we handled that and that we handled it in the way
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that we did, so I was pretty proud of the final product we got.
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But that was a cool milestone this year. Yeah, and as far
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as I know, we didn't get a lot of hate mail for that one.
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No, we mostly got support. Yeah, we mostly got some really
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good support. Yeah, that was nice. We did one on swearing,
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which is my favorite pastime. Right, Yeah, I curse so much,
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Like I feel like, you know, justin Greenhouse, the person that is
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responsible for making us sound really nice. Yeah, I feel so bad because
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I feel like he has to beep so much of my audio because of how
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much I swear. Y'all get a pretty sanitized version of our discussions. We
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do not hold back most of the time and force Justin to work hard.
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Yes, in the sort of political realm, there was a lot of attention
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going out and continues to go out around this idea of wocism. I think,
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fortunately enough it's been parodied and cartoonish like cartoonized if you will, and
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yeff by people that it's less of a talking point anymore. I like to
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believe we had something to do with that, even though we didn't, but
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we unpackt the idea of wocism in the ended episode. I really enjoy that
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episode because I feel like one of my favorite things about doing this show is
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finding out what gaps of my knowledge I have and then being able to fill
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those gaps in really meaningful ways. And for that one, that was really
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powerful for me because I didn't know the history of the term woke and where
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it came from, and so we got to dive into that, which was
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I think really impactful for me. We did two episodes back to back that
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were very related, but it was a total coincidence. We didn't plan on
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us at all. We did one that was the United States Pledge of Allegiance
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to its flag. We also impact on that pledge of allegiances in general around
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the world and other places that have pledges of allegiance and how pledges of allegiance
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are used in different ways. I learned a lot in that episode. And
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then the very next episode we talked about flags. Yeah, now again not
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on purpose, and the flags episode was really more about how flags are used
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in symbolic communication and how to sort of interpret them. But anyway, those
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were kind of fun back to back ones that we did. That happens every
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now and again, where like we'll get on a streak and like some of
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the episodes will just happened to align really well because it's just like, you
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know, either it's whoever's writing the notes just chose that and it just they
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end up getting released back to back or whatever it might be. But yeah,
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that was a that was a real fun coincidence. It was also really
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fun to finally tackle the evil juggernaut that is Scientology and really unpack what that
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meant in the different levels and not spend fifteen thousand or twenty five thousand dollars
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on getting to those levels to see Zeno. That is. So. The
18:26
first time I was really worried that I was gonna have to start investing in
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a regular lawyer was when we publish an episode on Goop. The second time
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where I was actually convinced we're going to have to do that was when we
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published an episode on Scientology. And I think we're still fortunate enough to be
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small enough that those things have not come back to bite us just yet.
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So fun. Yeah, oh my god, you know, so to be
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fair, Goop was your idea and then Scientology was mine. So I think
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we're getting into that stage where now we're kind of getting into this risky behavior
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of like who else can we take down and see if we can kind of
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get away with it. One of the things we did not try and take
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down, but when instead celebrated was Hero Rats. This episode about how rats
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are used to detect tuberculosis land mines and how they're even working to train rats
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to find people under collapsed structures. Yeah, that was a cool one.
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So cool. Yeah that goes not animals sweet. Yeah, And I think
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that one was a lot of fun because that I think is so important for
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like demystifying like or d debunking myths around rats, Like everybody's so afraid of
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rats, and it's like they're actually like some of the like the coolest animals
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on the planet. Yeah, they're amazing. We did an episode on what
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it means to be tough on crime and found out that like, it doesn't
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work. Yeah, often doesn't mean what I think people think it means,
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and ultimately is very expensive and not effective. So right, that falls into
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the sort of political suite probably. Yeah, one that I really enjoyed a
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lot. And again the SOE that I have thought about, I feel like
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we've done some like powerful emotionally resonating episodes this year was violence and video games.
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Yeah, that one we needed to tackle. I was glad that we
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did. I thought we handled. There's only a couple things in that upon
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a re listen where I was like, I wish we maybe have talked about
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that a little bit differently, But I mostly really enjoyed what I learned and
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how we were able to unpack that episode right, and especially because I like
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to play violent video games, so I it was nice to know that I
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wasn't going to go out and murder someone. That is it is nice.
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Yet. One of my favorite ones that we did too was Dancing Plagues,
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because it was like something I had only I had heard like in passing on
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another podcast. I was like, what the hell is that? And so
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we had to kind of like really dive into like what that meant and like,
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how weird. It's such a strange phenomenon. And yeah, I'm so
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glad that we got to do that one because it's like one of those off
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the beaten path topics that come up every now and again. It was fun
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too. I remember you pitched this. You're like, oh, I was
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thinking of doing dancing plays and it's like, oh, yeah, we should
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do that, and you were like, oh, you know what that is?
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Yeah. I was surprised. Nobody else around me knew. Yeah.
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I listened to so many podcasts so it has come up. But another one
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I felt very strong about and I'm pretty happy with how it handled was the
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Homeowners Associations for Hoa's and finally got to take them down a peg. The
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fact that John Oliver had recently done a whole deep dive on those did really
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help give me some good sources to orients too as well. But I wanted
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to have our take on that, and it was it was good. I
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actually think I was nicer to Hoas than I feel like I should have been
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or needed to be. And that's saying something because we were not nice to
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them at all. No, yeah, you were still very kind given that
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you like you could feel like the heat of your rage coming off of the
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episode like I could. I could feel it radiating through the zoom. There
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was there was a lot of beeping in that episode, not just cutting the
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swearing. There was beeping of the swearing because it was profuse. Yes,
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it was. It was quite a bit. We also did prospect theory,
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and I'm gonna be honest, I don't really remember much of that conversation.
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And that's not because of the episode topic. It's just like, sometimes I'm
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a very forgetful person, and that's really just kind of what that will happened
22:02
with that one. I actually feel the same way. I mean, this
22:03
was a behavior economics sort of oriented. Had what I called it was take
22:07
the good with the bad, and it was had to do with sort of
22:10
evaluating things, how you compare the value of things over one another. But
22:14
yeah, that one, I also had totally forgotten that we'd done and didn't
22:17
remember the bulk of the conversation, so I had to head to visit that.
22:19
But we did one on super tasters as people who have the ability to
22:25
detect flavors that other people don't detect. Yeah, and this is where I
22:30
think the rest of the year gets real wild. If you hadn't picked up
22:33
that the year was wild already, I think it gets really interesting in the
22:37
next couple episodes, Like it was a roller coaster, so we had orca
22:41
behavior, Yeah, because we were finding that, like orcas were attacking boats,
22:45
and I think that it's still one of my favorite like news headlines,
22:48
but also that orcas have trends in fads. Yeah, that was a wild
22:52
one, and it just occurred to me that unfortunately we blew way past our
22:57
first ad break having so much fun on this, So we're going to do
23:03
a few of these relatively close together, just to get caught up. But
23:06
first, it's the end of the year kind to try and make a little
23:07
money where we can, so we collect some from the advertisers, got to
23:11
make some scratch. Yeah, they say that they sponsored the show, and
23:14
I don't know what they think that means or what that actually means, but
23:17
we do good a little bit of money if you listen to us, and
23:18
then we play ads for you, and so that's the thing we're doing ads,
23:30
all right. So we were just talking about how we did prospect theory
23:33
and super tasters and then the fun, fun discussion about orcas and all the
23:37
strange behaviors that they engage in, which was really fun. Yeah, And
23:40
then we had one that also really stood out to me, As you said,
23:42
we're in sort of this wild time right now of newdest resorts, which
23:47
wow, what a fun and interesting dive that was to talk about the history
23:51
of them, how they work, where you can find them, what they
23:53
do, and I think the overall ethos of them, which is, don't
23:59
have have fear and shame about the human body. Right, we were all
24:03
born with one, and we were all born naked, that's true, and
24:04
so we teach and cultivate a fear and shame and phobia around nudity, and
24:11
these are a group of people who like to celebrate nudity, and I kind
24:15
of applaud them for that. I think there's something really beautiful in the lack
24:18
of shame and fear that they espouse. Yeah, I completely agree. I
24:22
mean that was one of the more enlightening episodes too, and like one of
24:25
those ones that you go, you know, you have maybe some opinions about
24:29
a thing, and then you learn about it and it's not so scary and
24:33
also just creates this level of acceptance that you didn't that you are like the
24:37
thought you were at but you weren't quite there. Like leaving that episode was
24:40
like, oh, like I support these even more now, Yeah, you
24:42
know, kind of I kind of left with that feeling, which was cool.
24:45
So we did an episode on Excited Delirium, which was the you know,
24:48
another one of those wild ones, which is like, you know,
24:52
it just it ends up being just a kind of unique problem in systems where
24:56
people kind of leverage that as a mean to punish people and stuff. So
25:00
it was kind of a weird one vaguely inside of the politics domain, but
25:07
yeah, maybe that would go in like the human abuse category of topics covered
25:12
right. Maybe related to that as speaking in tongues, that one maybe falls
25:15
more heavily in the pseudoscience or myth busting section because it turns out it is
25:22
all made up crap. Actually most people do that, but we dig into
25:26
the science of that a little bit. Yeah, that one was a cool
25:30
one to unpack, I think. Now. We also did one that was
25:32
pretty intense. We did the history of slavery, and we did that in
25:34
two episodes, and I feel like that was some of our best work.
25:37
But I think that that was also some of the most intense work that we've
25:40
done. Yeah, and I think unfortunately it had to be in complete,
25:44
you know. I think there you could spend hundreds of episodes really diving into
25:48
the horrors and awfulness of slavery. But it was important when all of a
25:52
sudden there was some people saying, hey, slavery was kind of good,
25:56
and we're like, no, no, it was not. Yeah, and
26:00
also c exactly, yeah, that's that came right out of old big boy
26:04
Shoes DeSantis yep and his his whole thing, So man, what a piece
26:10
of sh We did an episode on veganism, which I thought was really fun
26:12
and apparently got a lot of like weird backlash for some reason. Yes,
26:17
yeah, like trolley stuff. It was like trolley stuff. Yeah, it
26:19
was mostly trolley stuff inspired a later episode we'll get too. But I did
26:23
like that one. I felt like we handled it actually with less sort of
26:27
fervor than you might expect from someone who's been practicing that lifestyle for many,
26:32
many years. And you know, I tried to be respectful on it,
26:33
and it is what it is now. I ran across this interesting fella earlier
26:37
in the year and decided to do sort of a profile episode of his story.
26:41
His name was David Brow. Who's this guy who just really preached compassion
26:45
and loved toward fellow humans. And I found it really inspiring history and it
26:48
was also a tragic one. It felt like it merited and warranted, like
26:52
a sort of a lengthy discussion. Well, I think especially because you and
26:56
I have the value of like kindness and like goodness to be like, I
27:00
think that that was just one of those examples of like how far does that
27:03
go and what does that look like? And right, I thought that was
27:04
a more interesting story for sure. Then we did one on professional wrestling,
27:08
which is very different than David bro what a time? What a time that
27:15
is? I mean that one. I felt like, I don't remember exactly
27:18
why I wanted to do that one. I think I was probably just watching
27:19
wrestling and I was like, we should do one on this. Why do
27:22
people even like this? I don't know. I feel like that one was
27:25
really goofy but also kind of fun. I think it was super fun and
27:27
like very light compared to some of the other stuff. Yeah, no,
27:30
I thought it was super fun. I think it was. It was one
27:33
of the most fun episodes all year. Actually, I needed a beautiful job
27:37
organizing the notes around that, so, oh thank you. We decided to
27:40
talk about I guess you could put this in sort of maybe the disability category,
27:45
but maybe it's just like the extremes of human experience, because then you
27:48
could put super tasters in there. But we also talked about color deficiency,
27:51
So what the psychological experience is for people who cannot see the full spectrum of
27:55
colors that you would generally expect someone to be able to see because of how
27:59
the raw or the cones actually more work or don't work, so to speak,
28:03
in their eyes. Right, And then we discovered that you know those
28:06
glasses that are really expensive, don't make you see colors the way that people
28:10
think it does. Like it was one of those things where it's like,
28:12
if you literally can't see it color, a set of glasses will not make
28:17
you see that color. Yeah, what it'll do is it'll untangle those colors
28:21
from one another so that when they when they looked confused to your eyes,
28:25
they then looked distinct to your eyes. I mean, it really is only
28:27
applicable to the most common type of color blindness. And again it's just helps
28:33
those colors seem distinguished, not that they are going to magically all your cones
28:37
to work. Right. We did an episode on trolls, specifically Internet trolls
28:41
and why people do that. I think that one was pretty insightful as well,
28:45
but also sparked by just like trolls are annoying. Yeah, so we
28:49
want to know why trolls are annoying. You know, Yeah, we see
28:52
trolls, We hear about trolls. We got the lovely experience of interacting with
28:56
some trolls online and so decided it was worth talking about. I put together
29:00
a two part episode on the TSA because I wanted to understand that system how
29:08
it was supposed to work when I know that it doesn't, And so we
29:12
learned a lot about mostly how wildly inefficient and in effective it is and waste
29:18
of time and money it is for everybody. Nevertheless, like everybody likes it.
29:22
It was one of those weird positions where it's like we are cool with
29:26
spending a boatload of time and money on this thing that we know because yeah,
29:30
billions literally because it makes us feel better, and like that doesn't make
29:37
logical sense to me, but okay, yeah, I mean I guess,
29:40
I guess is what I would land on. And then we did social media
29:42
influencers, which we were really nervous about because we didn't want to become a
29:47
target for many social media influencers. But I think we did a good job,
29:51
and I think that we gave them credit for it being a quite a
29:53
difficult job for many people. Yeah they work really hard, they work or
30:00
really hard, and yes, it was what I agree. I was like,
30:03
this is a weird job. It is a weird job to talk about
30:07
as a weird job to describe. It is weird that so many people want
30:10
to do it and had to unpack that. But also I think I think
30:12
we were fair and kind to them. But yeah, we talked about the
30:17
in a very recent release, The Uncanny Valley, understanding sort of what that
30:22
is and how it came to be and how we might escape it, if
30:25
ever, and whether or not it's even real right then. So that was
30:27
an interesting one, yep. And we just wrapped our last episode of the
30:32
year, and that was on brainwashing, and I think that one seemed to
30:34
go pretty well as well. And I think what we've learned is like most
30:37
of the stuff that we discovered does not exist throughout this year. So there
30:41
was a lot of cool animal behavior, a lot of things that didn't exist,
30:45
and a lot of like just really crappy politics stuff. So it's been
30:48
a fun year that it has been an emotionally roller coaster, yes, or
30:55
I guess dynamic year is the way to put it. Of course, we
30:56
actually did some other episodes, Halloween and nostalgia episodes. First we'll do the
31:03
advertiser thing and then come back and talk about those. Sounds good, okay,
31:12
So well listen all of our standard episodes. If you've been with us
31:15
for a while, you know that we do our Halloween themed episodes, and
31:18
this year we happened to be oriented to Satan. Yes, And so the
31:22
first episode we opened with was left hand Path Magic, So we got to
31:26
talk about sex magic and what that looked like and all the evils and how
31:30
left hand path magic was the opposite of good white magic. Yeah, and
31:34
so I thought that was kind of fun. Yeah, And then we talked
31:37
about Satanism, what the tenets of Satanism are, the history of Satanism,
31:41
where satan worship exists, there's like theistic versus atheistic Satanism. That one was
31:48
a fun one to do for sure, Yeah, and how we discovered that
31:51
we might actually be Satanists ourselves to some degree. Yeah. We also did
31:55
the Satanic panic, which I think is in line with some of the other
31:59
kind of scare trend. Specifically, we talked about that in the Brainwashing episode.
32:01
Yeah, like you know, with the quote unquote red scare. And
32:05
so I thought that one was really fun to kind of talk about a very
32:08
particular time in the eighties and nineties where everybody was so afraid of the devil
32:14
and all the things he may do. And finally, we concluded our Halloween
32:17
series this year with a discussion on the philosophy of evil, what it is
32:23
what it is not and how to understand it psychologically. We learned it's useless
32:29
title. For the most part, it is a useless title I like some
32:31
of the others. Yes, exactly. And so this year we only did
32:36
four Nostalgie episodes. We talked about doing twelve, We ended up doing four.
32:38
All that means for dear listener is that we created more work for ourselves.
32:43
Yeah, that's what that. On top of that, we've been piloting
32:45
putting together a new type of episode that will be in addition to our normal
32:50
schedule releases that you haven't heard none of, but we've mentioned many times called
32:53
minis. We will definitely be launching those next year, but they should be
32:58
short version like ten to fifteen minutes weekly digestible chunks of information on random,
33:04
small topics that will come out once a week. We've recorded a lot of
33:07
them, most of them are edited and ready to go. We're just sort
33:10
of waiting until we feel like we're in a good groove of record and edit
33:15
to get those rolling out. So the plan is early next year you'll start
33:19
seeing extra stuff show up and your feed for us that will comprise these smaller,
33:22
bite sized, short episodes absolutely, which is to say, just an
33:27
x men on your point is that we record. We did a so much
33:30
work this year, and it was so much more than we have done in
33:35
some of the past years because it was mostly just Shane and I writing this
33:38
year and recording, and most of that was generating new content as opposed to
33:43
rehashing old content, which we did more of last year, as opposed to
33:45
bring on interviewees, which we did a lot more last year. We made
33:49
our lives way harder this year than we have done in the past. I
33:52
don't know why we did that. That seems like a very silly thing to
33:55
do, but it does. Yeah. As far as our nostalgia episodes,
33:59
God, we visited consciousness, which you know, not much has changed in
34:02
that world. Yep, another useless term. We released or re released polygraph
34:07
tests. Again, little has changed. They continued to suck at what they
34:10
do. Yes, we also decided to go back into what happened to Asperger
34:15
syndrome and just discovered that somehow Someway. Another one of our episodes got back
34:21
to the history of Nazis. Yeah, and some of the weirdest like Nazi
34:25
defenders that reached out to us. I don't know why, but yeah,
34:30
that was a thing that was very very unexpectedly came out of that discussion.
34:34
So I thought it was just like, hey, remember when we talked about
34:37
this, and then anyway, and then the last Nostalage episode we did,
34:39
we recently released on revisiting the bystander effect, the idea that when the more
34:45
people there are around, the fewer of them that will actually intervene, and
34:49
something that I failed to think about when I was re listening to to the
34:52
episode after we'd recorded it, because I was doing that for sort of quality
34:54
control. It occurred to me we talked about like the more people that were,
34:58
the smaller the percentage of people that intervened. And the thing that occurred
35:01
to me is like, well, yeah, I mean, the more people
35:05
that are, the smaller percentage that could intervene. You know, like if
35:08
it was five people and two of them intervened, or like let's say there
35:12
was five people around and three of them intervened, or ten people around and
35:15
six of them intervened, Like the proportion stays exactly the same even if the
35:20
number of people increases. And so if you if you maintain five or you
35:23
know, uh, you know, sixty percent, Like at some point it
35:27
becomes an unwieldy amount of people who are trying to do something, too many
35:30
people helping. Yeah, if it stays three people helping every time, that's
35:32
probably enough. And that number, that percentage is going to decrease more and
35:37
more, even as the absolute number of people stays the same. But anyway,
35:40
that was a revisit episode that was worth doing. Yeah, that one
35:44
was fun. So those are the episodes we released. We got some cool
35:46
statistics. As I said, our best data analytics come from Spotify, so
35:51
good on Spotify. Let's quickly dive into some of our wrapped statistics everybody likes
35:55
to do at the end of the year, and because they give us,
35:58
you know, as podcast, we get different stats than other people. We
36:01
learned that for the second year in a row at least our top episode was
36:06
organizational psychology episode like fifty four or something released in our maybe second year as
36:10
a podcast. So this was listened to nine ninety nine percent in our average
36:16
episodes, which I'm not sure how or why or where that that's a wild
36:22
number as I've been looking at this because again this is the second year this
36:24
has happened I really think that we're going to need to do a nostalgia or
36:28
just another episode on this to see if we can figure out how we bottled
36:32
lightning on that one. But twenty eight percent of our new listeners started on
36:37
that episode, so it is it is a banger apparently. I wonder if
36:40
that's like, I don't know, linked in a course somewhere. Yeah,
36:45
maybe that's what it is. Maybe maybe we're part of a college curriculum.
36:47
If we are, let us know, I mean, we're good. We're
36:50
good with that. That's cool with us. Yeah, so no no complaints.
36:52
We also learned that ninety percent of our listeners discovered US this year,
36:55
so we got a lot of new folks, so welcome, We love you
36:59
all, and we're glad that you're here. That's exciting. Most of our
37:01
new listeners were in the United States, Australia, United Kingdom, Germany,
37:05
and New Zealand. That actually does mirror where most of our listens happen,
37:07
so that makes a lot of sense. Yeah, seventy eight countries are listening
37:13
to us, which I thought was cool. The US was our top but
37:15
only accounted for forty six percent, so less than half of our listeners are
37:19
from the US, which I think is actually really cool. That's amazing.
37:22
Yeah, high international people, we see you, thanks for being here with
37:25
us, Happy summer Australia. We see you, by the way, as
37:29
a colloquial term meaning we're glad we're here and we respect you. We don't
37:32
actually see you, that would be weird. We recognize that you're participating in
37:36
this experiment with us. Yes, that's what it is. More well said
37:39
than I said it. So how people found us? Most people found us
37:43
that were shared via a direct link, meaning someone who listened to us to
37:46
listen to link to someone else to listen to us. That was thirty four
37:49
percent. Somebody texted that link. That was thirty percent. Somebody used WhatsApp,
37:52
which makes a lot of sense. That's the most common, i think,
37:54
international communication tool. That was fourteen percent. Eleven percent on Instagram at
37:59
eleven percent were other I'm not sure what that was, but ye, okay,
38:01
maybe pigeons. Sure, probably that makes sense. It's fun. It's
38:06
wild that Spotify has pigeons now to send links, so it's a strange new
38:09
program they're doing. Our ratings went up, so our rating went to five
38:14
point zero up from four point nine line last year. So I mean,
38:16
we're a good podcast, so you're welcome. It's really what I should be
38:21
saying there, not that yes, we're welcome and thank you, but also
38:24
thinking and apparently all those people we made angry with our our veganism episode did
38:30
not affect that, so nope, way to come to them. So we
38:32
had a thirty four percent growth in listeners, fifty two percent growth in streams,
38:37
and a wopping sixty six percent growth in followers. This is actually quite
38:42
easily the steepest amount of increase we have had in new followers on Spotify in
38:49
the history of us collecting or having any data to look at on this.
38:52
Yeah, which is really really cool. We were top ten for eight hundred
38:55
and thirty seven people, in the top five for four hundred and fifty two
39:00
people, which is really cool. That was cool. And then we were
39:01
the top podcast for seventy nine fans. So very honored to have been in
39:06
your top your top podcast. I mean, thank you, we appreciate you,
39:09
Honored that you're listening in general, but like thank you for giving us
39:13
that much of your time and attention in your space. Yes, exactly,
39:15
you are. You are you're very kind and we're really we're lucky to have
39:19
you here. Thank you for giving us your time. Oh I mentioned our
39:22
followers. We went from twelve hundred and seventeen on January first to one nine
39:27
hundred and thirteen on the date that we're recording us. Now we are still
39:30
a little early in December. It'd be really cool if we close out December
39:34
with a cool two thousand. So if you want to tell your friends,
39:37
get us that extra eighty seven followers on Spotify to cross that two thousand.
39:42
We're so close. Yeah, that'd give us the warm fuzzies. We'll report
39:45
that in our in our you know, first of the year episode, or
39:47
get as close to it as we can. Yeah. Yeah, help us
39:50
cross two thousand. That'd be fun. You know, it doesn't help us
39:52
cross two thousand though, Ads, Ads, Well, let us regale you
40:02
with some of the things that we have consumed in terms of entertainment. And
40:07
I'm not going to spend a lot of time on these. I'm just going
40:08
to listen them because we've already actually been doing this for longer than I thought
40:12
we would give in today's topic, we are skilled. We are if being
40:16
able to pontificate endlessly is a skill. We are masters of the nail Boss
40:22
be given that we have a professional podcast. If you could call it professional,
40:25
you could say we are professionals at that skill. I only read what
40:30
is this? Eight books this year? One, two, three, four,
40:32
five, sixty eight books. I read How to Be an Anti Racist
40:36
by IBRAMX Kendy, great book. So I finished this year. Actually started
40:38
last year, we finished it this year. I've read Kaiju Preservation Society by
40:43
John Scullzy, which is a fun fiction book, Caffeine by Michael Paulin,
40:46
Children of Dune by Frank Herbert that was first finishing the sort of first three
40:51
What If two came out this year by Random Monroe. That was a lot
40:53
of fun. I'm not sure if you call that reading it a book,
40:55
but I mean I counted it was really fun. I'd read the whole thing.
40:59
I count it. I read read Player Too by Ernest Klein, Good
41:01
and Artemis by Andy Weir, and then just Live. Yeah, Artemis was
41:06
very fun, and then just finished Outlive by Peter Attia cool. I mean
41:10
it's a good book list. Children of Dune is such a wild time.
41:15
Yes, that is that is an interesting one. That that definitely takes some
41:17
turns you may not have expected. All Right, So this year I read
41:21
seventy books. I'm not going to list them all, but I am going
41:22
to list the ones that I think were probably the better of the books.
41:28
So I started the year reading The Hollow Ones by Giermo de Toro, and
41:31
that was a really cool, kind of an interesting take on demon possession and
41:36
horror, which I thought was really great. I read Back Totem by Bokowski
41:40
Charles Bakowski. If you're familiar with his work. He's got very like simple
41:44
prose, kind of gritty, but I always like his stuff. And I
41:47
also read Sirens of Titan by Kurt Vonnegut, which you know is one of
41:51
my favorite books. Also reading it back, like I loved the trajectory of
41:54
that story, but going back and reading it it's a very different read.
42:00
As I get older, I should revisit it. I love that book when
42:01
I was younger. You should revisit it. And you might go, oh,
42:05
ooh, that's bad. That's I don't that's a bad premise, Like
42:07
there's some some stuff in it where you're like, oh no, But also
42:10
it is written in like the fifties, so like it's a very interesting different
42:14
time. I also read God Emperor of Doom Dune not Doom, God Emperor
42:19
of Dune, Heretics of Dune and Dune Chapter House, which are the books
42:23
four, five six in the Dune series, And so I got to wrap
42:28
up the original Herbert series like the first the second trilogy. I read a
42:31
book about cryptids called Cryptid Creatures of Florida, which was not good, and
42:36
then I read The Stand the Talisman and Night Shift by Stephen King. I
42:40
finally got to read A Scanner Darkly by Philip K. Dick. Oh.
42:44
That was a good one. Yeah, that was a good one. I
42:45
got to read Young Till I'm Old by Michael Paul Anthony who is. It's
42:50
a memoir of like growing up in the Daytona punk scene, so that was
42:52
a fun one. I also got to read Punk Paradox by Greg Graffin,
42:55
and I finally read The Martian by Amy Weir, one of my favorite's so
43:00
good, incredible, incredible. As far as some science books that I read
43:04
this year that I thought were really good, the Grieving Brain by O'Connor was
43:07
really really good. It kind of talked about the neurology of grief and what
43:10
that looked like. Okay, I got to read Rebooting Capitalism by Anthony big
43:15
Land, which I thought was a really interesting take on kind of the like
43:19
how to make capitalism work better. But I think my favorite book that I
43:22
read this year was The Fisherman by John langan Wo. That was such a
43:28
wild and interesting horror story that has to do, like I have a fascination
43:31
with like Appalachian lore, and so this is like really cool horror story that's
43:37
like very Lovecraftian that's based in Appalachian lore. So wow, it some really
43:42
really fascinating stuff there, and it's done so well, so scary, so
43:46
nice. Yeah, I'll go through my movie list very quickly. I won't
43:52
spend any time on any of them, just to say what they are.
43:53
I watched The Heat, The Menu, Ambulance, look Away, Thirty seven
43:58
Meters Down, Hypnotic, The Gift, The Bubble, Shotgun, Wedding,
44:01
Your Place or Mine, Halloween Ends, Ant Man in the Wasp, Quantum
44:06
Mania, We Have a Ghost, Eurovision, Atlantis, Let's Kill Ward's Wife,
44:09
Everything everywhere all at once, The Ones Below, Pinocchio, The Guillamo
44:14
del Toro, Version, Guns, of Kimbo, The Woman, King,
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Sea Beast, Strange World, Dungeons and Dragons, Honor among Thieves, Weird,
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The Al Yankovic Story, The Gentleman Finch Murder Mystery two, Luther fallen
44:27
Son, Tickets to Paradise, The Bad Guys, Guardians of the Galaxy,
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Volume three, Couples Retreat, Solace, The Outlaws, Violent Night, Happiness
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for Beginners, Keeping up with the Joneses Bros. They Came Together, Vacation
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Friends two, You're so not invited to My bat Mitzvah Scream six, Instant
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Family, No One Will Save You, The Wrath of Becky, Totally Killer
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A, Hunting in Venice, Unseen. I Came by Bones and All Death
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on the Nile, The Nun two, Your Next, El Camino, Christmas,
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Werewolves Within Elemental and Knock at the Ca. Wow. Yeah, that
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was so much. That was so much. And then I watched thirty three
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TV seasons. I'll again, I'll do it just really quick. Inside Man,
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His Dark Materials Season three, The Devil's Hour, Big Mouth Season three
45:15
through six, The Last of US Human Resources, The first season, White
45:19
Lotus Seasons one and two, Damer Big Sky, Rick and Morty Seasons five,
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and six Onny Love, Death and Robots all three seasons, Mandalorian season
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three, Ghosts season two, Masked Singer season nine, and Now season ten
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is almost done, Animal Control season one, ted Lasso season three, Superstore
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all six seasons, so way more seasons than I thought, Jury Duty,
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Black Mirror season six, Silo Is It Cake? Season two, Hack My
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Home Good Omen season two, Crime Scene, Kitchen seasons one and two,
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Miracle Workers season four, Secret Invasion, The Bear seasons one and two,
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So good, The Wheel of Time season two, Naked Attraction season one,
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The Bear season two. I said that one already a cabinet of Curiosity season
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one, and Looky season two, so much. I mean, so,
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I think you know where It's like if I probably read less books, I'd
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be able to consume more movies and television. Yeah. Yeah, it's so
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funny. I'm not saying I went the right direction. I'm just saying I
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think it's great. I think it's great. As somebody who grew up like
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spending a lot of time watching movies and stuff, I just absolutely adore cinema
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like I think that it's like one of my favorite things movies and TV.
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I think it's so great and I think it's such a unique way, like
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such a fun way to tell a story. So I know to who to
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go to when I need recommendations. I watch a lot of movies and arguably
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much more television. Do you have a favorite for the year? Favorite movie
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or show or what or both? Either one? Let me look at my
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listen to it again one more time. It's hard because there's sort of a
46:47
recency bias. That's sort of the ones that really stand out to me.
46:51
I will say that the menu really stick with me for a long time.
46:54
That one, I really liked everything everywhere all at once, was really really
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unique, and I did enjoy. The ones that have actually gone back to
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and like rewatched a second time are Murder Mystery two, which just because it's
47:09
really funny, okay, oh, you know, just the hunting and Venice.
47:14
One kicked off like me watching the other like a rewatched a Murder on
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the Orient Express and then watched and Nile because those are Death and the Nile.
47:22
That's what it was. So yeah, I mean, all those were
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good. I would say man favor of the year, weirdly quite possibly Dungeons
47:31
and Dragons, Honor among Thieves. That was one of the most fun movies.
47:35
Like it was so with like pretty low expectations for it very much.
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So it was so fun, it was so silly, it was so comical
47:44
and just like well done. That one was was high up there totally.
47:46
Killer was really good too, but I mean it was sort of a standard
47:47
sort of time travel movie. But as far as TV shows go, Man
47:52
Love, Death and Robots has really stuck with me. I was blown away
47:55
at that series. So that one very high on my life. I was.
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I think about it a lot, and I'm really hoping they do another
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season at some point. Cool, all right, I love it. But
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whenever anybody asked me like, oh, what show should I watch, and
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I say, Jerry did, and then I'll tell you other things after that
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to start there. Yeah, that's that is a fun one. Yeah,
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all right, Well we should do you have any like major movies or TV
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like to recap before we get into Uh No, I don't think so.
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I mean, I I really always enjoy great British banking shows, so whenever
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that comes up, I'm always having a lot of fun with that. Oh
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I need to add that to my list. I forgot that one. I
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also just finished. Yeah, the last season just finished. Yeah, and
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I really enjoyed everything everywhere all at once. I thought that was just such
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a such a unique story, and it was just so fun, and it
48:42
was really great to see Gee Kai Kwang to get some some recognition. Oh
48:46
he was great on that too. He's so good in it, and he's
48:49
so good and Loki to like, I mean, he's just such a gem
48:52
and so like I'm just it's like it's one of those things where you're like,
48:55
you're just so happy for him doing such cool and fun work, you
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know, really really am Yeah. Absolutely, Well, let's do one more
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for the advertisers and then we'll wrap this thing up. Sounds good. Poured
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one out for the advertisers, we do. I think it's worth acknowledging the
49:21
pull one out in a bad way. Like we had a good drink we
49:22
wanted to keep and then someone spilled, knocked us and spill out of our
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hand. And that's what advertisers are. They're the knock the drink out of
49:31
your hand people we lost again. These are the people who passed away this
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year, So we're it's kind of a mix. The way it's organized us
49:39
as mostly sort of celebrities there's way, way, way too many to want
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to do a whole list, but I tried to grab the ones that I
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think were the most famous. Then some major scientists, and then specifically some
49:50
behavior analysts this year. So I'll take a few of the celebrities, and
49:52
you can take a few, and then we'll get the scientists. Norman Lear,
49:55
Sandrede O'Connor not a celebrity, but was the first female justice on the
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Supreme Court, Rosalind Carter, Matthew Perry, and Dianne Feinstein again another politician.
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I was just some major figures that the passedway this year. Michael Gambou,
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Jimmy Buffett, I almost say, Jimmy Buffet, Bob Barker, Paul
50:15
Rubins, and Shinead O'Connor. And then there was also Tony Bennett Singer did
50:20
a duet with Lady Gaga. I believe, Alan Arkin, Cormick McCarthy,
50:24
Tina Turner, Jerry Springer, and then Richard Belzer, who people mostly know
50:29
from Law and Order. I think. Yeah. Now, as far as
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the scientists go, we had John Goodenough, which is such a great last
50:36
name, right. He was the creator of the lithium ion battery and there
50:38
was Hubert Reeves who was a nastrophysicist. There was also Paul Berg who was
50:44
a Nobel Prize winner for recombinant DNA whatever work that he did with that.
50:51
And then Evelyn Fox Keller who was a science philosopher and science historian that was
50:55
well known and respected in the science community, super important. And then and
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there was as far as behavior analysts go, there was doctor Joseph Peer who
51:04
did some really great work in the precision teaching world right or the direct instruction
51:07
world. No, it was a personalized system of instruction or ps that's what
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it was. PSI. That's what I'm at yea not unrelated, just a
51:16
slightly different version of it. Yeah. That actually be a fun topic to
51:20
tackle at some point, is the PSI system. Yeah, which that would
51:23
be a really great Joe pair. One of the arguably most well recognized names
51:28
and old behavior analysts, Brian Awata, passed away this year, architect of
51:32
the functional analysis. Most behavior analysts will recognize that term. And then Henry
51:38
S. Pennypacker. I had my introduction to him through my research class and
51:44
experimental design through the Johnson and Pennypacker book, the textbook that was widely used
51:49
there yep, yep, went by Hank Pennypacker being in the percision teaching community.
51:53
But then you wrote that research methods book and started a widely used business
51:59
for early detection and screening a breast cancer called MammaCare. Guys did some cool
52:04
work that might also be a topic with unpacking at some point in the near
52:07
future. Absolutely, so they will be missed, probably some of those people
52:10
more than others because some of them were somewhat controversial figures. But at least
52:15
sad that we lost some important behavior analysts this year and some important scientists.
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Most of these people did live late into life and had full, rich lives,
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so I wouldn't call most of these tragedies, but nevertheless, it's always
52:28
sad and we you lose someone who was a great contribution to science in our
52:31
Absolutely all right, let's go ahead and wrap this up with some qu recommendations.
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But first, I actually maybe should have started with this. The people
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53:44
we move on to our recommendations to close out twenty twenty three, No I
53:47
don't think I have anything on that front recommendations. Okay, well, hopefully
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someone listened long enough to hear this. I'm just going to share it really
54:02
quick. I gave you on that list of the movies. One of them
54:05
was the movie A Knock at the Cabin. Now, as a quick backstory,
54:08
many years ago, I watched this movie called Lady in the Water,
54:12
written and directed by M. Knight Shamalan, and it was one of the
54:15
few times in my life I was so upset at how bad the movie was
54:17
that I wanted my life back afterward because of how much time I felt and
54:22
wasted. I was so angry m Night Shyamalan for making such a horrible piece
54:27
of unforgivable garbage that I said I will never watch another film that he does.
54:30
And then he went out to put out Avatar the Last Airbender, which
54:32
was widely panned as a terrible movie, as well as a series of other
54:37
flops that went badly, and I felt rightly justified in writing off him as
54:40
a terrible director of movies, even though I really really liked The Sixth Sense
54:45
and was okay with like Signs and yeah, so the Village. But anyway,
54:51
I got really. I was tired of his stick. I hated Lady
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in the Water tremendously and did not want to watch any more of his And
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then this movie came up with a really good trailer call a Knock at the
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Cabin, and my partner insisted that we try it, even though it was
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m Night Shyamalan, and we did, and I'm glad we did because it
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was actually really, really good. He I think has really grown in his
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writing and directing skills, if this is any evidence of that. I actually
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really enjoyed it a lot. And it does not have a twist maybe spoiler
55:19
alert. It is just the story as it unfolds. I like that.
55:22
I'll only say what's in the trailer. I won't give anything else away.
55:23
Essentially, a group of people shows up at a cabin and insists the people
55:29
inside make a sacrifice and they have to do this to prevent the apocalypse,
55:32
and I'm just going to leave it at that. Yeah, So I'm the
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best acting I have ever seen from Dave Batista as the lead. Overall,
55:38
the performances were absolutely stellar. Rupert Grant is really good. Everyone does a
55:44
very good job in the movie. I think is for being sort of contained
55:46
inside the Cabin beautifully well executed. So I recommend a Knock at the Cabin,
55:52
currently available for streaming on Amazon Prime, assuming it's still there at the
55:55
time you listen to this. Yeah. I always like those movies that are
55:58
like kind of a little bit closer for where it's like the sets are real
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small and like very intimate, Like I like this. I think it's The
56:05
Strangers is one that's like that where it's like all in the same place,
56:08
or like even the First Saw movie, right, the first Saw movie is
56:10
like in the same combine. So I always like those movies like that and
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how well they can execute a story in that space. I'm gonna recommend a
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local cookie place. They do deliver so you can order and they will ship
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you stuff. That is a place called cookie now spelled k O k k
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i E n o w at cookie now dot com. Are the two o's
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in there, because you said k O K k I E, which I
56:31
would feel like is pronounced cocky. Yeah, that's the that's not how you
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spell that. It's been a it's been a I'm exhausted. It's k O
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O ki E got it now? N OW cookie noow dot com. They
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make these kind of like small batch, just like really good cookies. They've
56:51
got chocolate chip cookies and cream. They do a gluten free one right now,
56:54
as far as I can tell, they don't do any vegan ones unfortunately,
56:59
but they'll do some seasonal ones and they might be able to do some
57:01
requests. They have some cool ones. They have a Bisco Off cookie,
57:05
They've got a Circus Animal cookie, which is a lot of fun. And
57:07
right now they're doing a Santa Surprise cookie Wow, which is like a chocolate
57:12
peppermint which is really good, like a milking cookies and peppermint. So I
57:15
ran into them at like a food mart, like a festival kind of situation,
57:20
and it was really good and the guy was really nice, and so
57:22
I just it's a local place and I just recommend supporting him. Cool,
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all right, very good. Well. I started this episode by saying,
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this is going to be a short one, and this is not only not
57:31
a short one, but it was longer than the average length of every episode
57:36
we put out this year. Yeah, by kind of a lot. So
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I hope you enjoyed it as much as we enjoyed making it sort of reflection
57:42
and talking about movies and TV that books that we like is fun, and
57:45
then music and whatnot. Anyway, we'll we'll wrap it up. There.
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Is there anything you'd like to add or anything I forgot before we sign off
57:51
for twenty twenty three chain, No, just thank you for being here.
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Yes, you know we can't do it without you listening to us, and
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we're going to continue to do this in the next year and hopefully we continue
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to do good stuff for you. Also, absolutely thank you for another awesome
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year. That's all I got. So this is Abraham and it's a Shane.
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Happy New Year. We're out. Happy New Year. See yah.
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