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Radio Ranch with Roger Sayles Archive Replay 102126 - The Law Merchant, the Birth Certificate, and the Price of Ignorance · Global Voice Radio Network's tracks

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  Thank you so much for joining us and welcome to the program.
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  Unknown: Right? I think that'll get us going this morning. I think Brent came on just as the theme music was playing there. So, here we go and it's a Friday obviously. I believe Brent's with us and
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  it's Roger Sales, your host and Brent Winners, your co host today, always on Fridays and the Radio Ranch and People's Patriot Network blah blah blah.
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  Last day of the month of May, that's a nice old rhyme.
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  Last day of the month of May and always happy to have Brent on and to get to talk about things of great importance with him for a couple of hours on our Friday. Hey, Brent.
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  Unknown: Hi, Roger.
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  How you doing? Hope all is well with you. You know, we come on these shows and
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  and
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  I'm in the habit. I had gained this habit years ago. If I'm on the radio, I
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  try not to talk about anything too heavy right away,
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  kinda let people work into it, but we've got a
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  set of listeners that get irritated if we don't get into the meat They of it right like meaty. Our people are just thirsty,
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  Unknown: okay?
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  And hungry. And hungry.
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  And that's a beautiful thing, Brent, about this platform and what has developed into is there's just nothing like this out there that I know of and
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  of course, the all the information that you always bring on Fridays is fantastic. Chris
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  joined us and yeah, we got some meat eaters out there. Well, if you wanna jump right into a pile of meat that you got on your mind, just have at it.
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  Unknown: Well, we were talking about
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  you and I talking about
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  via
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  internet
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  articles,
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  talking about this fellow that
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  the articles claim have won a case against the IRS
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  says he won't pay income tax until
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  the federal government quits funding abortions
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  and
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  it is true that he,
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  as we'd say in the law, he prevailed on a particular matter.
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  You don't say a fellow wins because hardly do he ever win. Matter of fact,
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  most times I've ever gone away from a court, I had to stop someplace
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  as I was driving away or walking away and ask myself, wait a minute, did I win today or lose? It's like old Betsy DeLear said one time when I was in school they had a big
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  big get together over in the main hall where
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  all the students would go. Of course, we didn't have that many students. It was a small school, but we all went over there and they had an army officer there that was trying to promote
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  the army and of course he was talking about what was going on in Vietnam and trying to get young boys to be willing to go.
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  And Betsy,
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  when it came time for questions she said,
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  but are we winning or losing in Vietnam?
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  That was a profound question and I remember this distinctly,
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  he couldn't answer it.
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  The guy was a colonel or something.
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  That's the way it is in court often, you walk away and you can't tell whether you won or lost, but this particular fella said he wasn't going to pay taxes
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  until abortion stopped
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  And
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  he went into court and they charged him with willful failure to file for four years,
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  and of course he was complaining about abortion, but that wasn't in front of the court. The other thing
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  that they had charged him with was
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  evasion,
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  because what he had done once he quit filing, the state of Oregon came and the feds
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  and they started emptying his bank accounts out. What they did first was, this is traditionally the way it works, You don't file a return. The government will file a substitute return. In other words, they'll file whatever they wanna file and say you owe whatever they say you wanna owe. Oftentimes, they were talk... We'll talk to your neighbors, your employer, try to find out how much you made. You won't get any deductions and they'll file a substitute return because you didn't. And they'll put every penalty
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  Unknown: and
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  interest But they can load on
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  Unknown: in those cases they don't charge you yet with a crime or the misdemeanor,
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  a crime of any kind.
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  Well, this fellow, what he got on to, okay, they're gonna steal my money out of my bank account. He'd take his checks that he had received as an independent contractor, he was an engineer,
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  and I'll just take them down to bank and cash him. So he took him down to the bank, cashed him for cash, and left. He didn't put any more money in the bank, but he apparently had an account open there with a few bucks in it,
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  and they trusted him, so he got his money.
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  Well, the IRS charged him
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  with
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  evading,
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  with impeding
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  the collection, trying to hide income, trying to keep assets from them so they couldn't get them
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  and they took him to court on a felony charge, a grand jury indictment,
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  facing a few years, and then they threw in on top, as they often do,
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  four years of failure to file. Now, failure to file is not a felony, it's a misdemeanor,
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  but even though it's a misdemeanor,
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  it carries up to a year in federal prison and up to $25,000
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  fine. So if you got four of those, that could be up to four years in prison and a $100,000
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  fine. So even though it's a misdemeanor,
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  it's nothing to sneeze at. Well, that's what he was facing. Four counts of misdemeanor,
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  failure to file, willful, has to be willful by the way, but of course, when you're saying I'm not paying taxes and I'm not filing as he has done and has YouTube videos,
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  the willful element is easy to overcome.
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  All you have to do is say, well, he says he's not going to pay and he knows. He put a YouTube video up about how he knows the law says this, but he's not going to do it.
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  So, they had him cold stoned on those four
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  willful
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  failure to file counts of misdemeanors,
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  and then they charged him with this evasion thing under, what, 7,201
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  or 3 or something. What what they were saying was you're cashing your checks. You're not putting them in the bank. You're taking cash out and you're trying to keep money from us. Well, the judge looked at it up there in Oregon and he said, now wait a minute.
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  I get the failure to file thing. By the way, those charges are still pending against him.
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  But this thing about him
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  trying to do things in secret is not true.
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  Every time he went into the bank, he has to give a thumbprint. That's the way they do it now. He has to,
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  of course, cash the check at the bank. You give the check to the bank so it's not hidden. There's a record made that you took cash for what you did. He said, I'm dropping that charge. We're not going to do that. If a man doesn't want to put money in the bank, he doesn't have to. If he wants to take cash and live on cash and do business on cash, that's his business. You see the IRS, Roger,
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  they know and I've heard US attorneys say it out loud with a viciousness.
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  If we could just get rid of cash,
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  this wouldn't happen. That's what they want. They want to get rid of cash. They want to get rid of gold. They got rid of the gold. Now they want to get it want to get rid of the cash. Try to do business in gold. There's no law against it,
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  but they use cash
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  and the courts will do this too. Use cash or gold or silver.
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  Well, if you're if you're using that, they'll say that's a badge. That's an indication that there's smoke. I'll bet there's fire.
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  And the law says that that's one of the tests they can use.
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  Unfortunately,
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  kind of sick, isn't it? That they force you to go to a bank when the banks are not paying any interest. They're stealing money. They're abusing us as an institution worldwide,
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  making taxpayers...
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  Saddling taxpayers
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  with their stupidity
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  owe it to the tune of billions and billions of dollars yet.
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  The federal government,
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  unwritten law, but it's de facto,
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  you got a bank to look legitimate.
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  Back to you, Roger.
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  Unknown: All persons born are naturalized in The United States,
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  comma.
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  It all falls under that, man.
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  Of course, I know a lot about this tax issue.
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  I hated it. Honestly, that's why I kind of passed off to thinking there's gotta be a better way to attack this and I think I found that.
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  And what we've learned of course through John and Glenn's trials, tribulations,
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  traumas,
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  tragedies
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  of so many years,
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  both those guys.
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  Was that
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  we can solve their
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  riddle problem
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  on what this is and how it works and Glenn got to the point.
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  I guess you and I have talked about this, Brent. Glenn got to the point where here a few years ago, there was a medical doctor in San Diego that they got ramped up just like this
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  and
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  but at that point,
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  let's see if I can make sure this is clear. This is the old English system and it took em years and years and years and years to find the information, study it, understand it. And then what happened was with Glenn,
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  I was doing shows with Al Addusk, and Al Addusk had a friend who was really heavily immersed in the researching of the master code, individual master codes and all the computerized side of this,
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  and he couldn't really make sense of it because he didn't have Glenn's side. And those two got together. His name is Michael Ellis, I believe, if my memory is correct.
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  And what Michael Ellis was able to show Glenn
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  is how they get that substitute for return
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  into the process.
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  This is the process, evidently. If you don't file, well, the first thing they do is start sending you these little series of letters and there's a federal booklet you can get. I remember I had one that had every letter that they send out because
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  they've got a nomenclature with a with a numerical code on the side and it you what the letter is over on the right and so there's a series of four that they start sending you.
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  Mister Winters, we haven't received your tax. You're here for the tax return for the year '19. Umpty, umpty, umpt. If you've already done that, disregard this. Otherwise, we might ask you to bring in books and records,
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  right?
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  And
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  so,
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  of course, some patriots go in there with library books and stacks of phonograph records, you know, that kind of stuff. All those games were played, alright?
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  But that is
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  in the Uniform Commercial Code
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  what's called a confirmatory
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  writing
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  contract. Are you familiar with those?
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  Unknown: I've heard of them. I've never had
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  Unknown: to study them. Okay, I see you change your microphone, that's much better, it's real fuller. Oh good, good, that tells me how to use it more often. Go ahead, Rodney. Yeah, so in
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  this confirmatory writing,
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  it's somewhere over in the contract section of the UCC which is very involved and there's more than one, okay?
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  And this is a law merchant contract,
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  and it states that if you receive a writing from another merchant
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  and it is supposed that you know the content of the writing
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  that if you do not in thirty days expressly
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  deny that contract, it's deemed accepted.
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  And you remember back Brent, when we were young, and it's, I vaguely remember this,
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  in the fifties,
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  they would Uh-huh. You get a letter and say, would you like a nice, bouncing, green, umpty umpty, you go, I don't want a green umpty ump and you throw the thing in the trash can and thirty, thirty, forty days later, the green umpty ump shows up at your door.
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  Okay? Uh-huh. Confirmatory writings evidently if if that memory is right, if anybody could contribute to this, I'd like to hear it back that might have a memory of that but so, they had the UCC in and they're using it back then and these kind of
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  backhanded ways against the general public.
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  Regardless, that's what John always thought it was. I believe that's what it is and when most people throw those in the trash can, you're in the contract,
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  invisible contract.
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  So, you go on and you don't file and you don't file. The pro, the computer is programmed
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  correctly and
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  the computer for the IRS
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  has to have a statute staple contract in it because it's got to be voluntary.
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  And they get to that point where you haven't filed
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  and they have to go to a specific push code
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  called an nine
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  push code,
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  and they override the computer and that's where they enter the substitute for return.
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  And until they've got a return in, they can't go to assessment,
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  and they can't go to assessment, they can't go to collections.
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  But that right there seems to be the real linchpin
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  and
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  the Glenn
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  told me, he said, Roger and they took it all the way up through the ninth circuit now, okay? And he said, the the The US tax attorney because they always fly in a tax attorney from DC. The local USA doesn't handle those cases and
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  he said they absolutely will not give up that nine code in discovery or interrogatories
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  or anything else.
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  And then he said something else and I think this is what's turned Glenn away from this and chasing other things in his life through the sheer frustration
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  of it, you know? And he said,
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  this information is so dead gum complex
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  that it's not only the jury can't understand it, the judge can't understand it either.
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  Unknown: Well, I'd go on to say that the IRS doesn't understand it, neither do the people at top. I think it's a scam from start to finish. Yes. But It Roger,
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  these things are never brought up in court, never brought up anywhere
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  Unknown: in any legal proceedings. Go ahead. Let me tell you what, that case and on, you can put tittle with your microphone, your sound's gotten fuller but there's still some little switch missing somewhere to bring you right next to us. So. Oh. Okay. But
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  it hell now I lost my train of thought. It it it's mind boggling. It turned Glenn off so much that he's off chasing the trucking business, you know? Living in the living in North Dakota.
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  Chasing the trucking business. That's a little bit of alienation for you.
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  But it's this old process
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  and
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  of the statue staple, it mimics it. I mean, step for step. There's no question what they're doing but
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  that's why this
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  my approach,
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  I believe, is so far superior
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  is because it's just like I'm telling Chris. Chris is on with us. Chris, it's hard as hell to get out of that molasses
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  tsunami when you're in it but if you can see it coming and do the right things, you can step out of the way of it.
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  And it is my belief that that the when we were doing the tax stuff with John and Glenn,
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  John had found in the code
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  where
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  in the regulations now,
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  where you could, if you'd been filing as the incorrect status,
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  that if you correct your status, you can
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  file three years back in our returns, non resident alien returns in this instance,
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  and they would give you all that what you paid in back. Well, few people did that and the first couple of ones that did it got big checks back,
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  and that obviously
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  motivated folks. This is back in 1990
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  now, kids. Let's get the time frame right, okay?
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  And
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  it wasn't very long till when they found up there because the non resident alien filing center is Philadelphia,
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  Philadelphia
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  Service
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  Center and when they figured out what was going on, they shut it down pretty quick and anytime you send in that status change to them first,
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  they
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  they replied with a $500 frivolous filing penalty.
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  Today,
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  if you send that affidavit to the IRS before you send it to the Secretary of State,
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  now they're going to give you a $5.00
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  frivolous filing penalty. You think maybe they are high, have a little heightened awareness of it?
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  No.
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  So,
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  now, we know the way that both systems are set up
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  and
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  we go
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  to the lord of the manor first, the Secretary of State and file that declaration that you're, you can either say what you are if you want to approach it that way or a better way to me is to tell em what you're not
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  and let them figure out what you are. They make a lot of money up there. They can exercise their brains that much. There's only two options. Let them figure the other one. I don't care. I think that's a better approach but that's just
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  fine tuning on my part. I think the important thing is you get some sort of a
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  declaration
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  preferably an affidavit up there in your
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  file and now what you've done is you've wiped away that presumption
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  that has been with you since all persons born are naturalized since you came into the world.
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  Now, you've shifted the presumption back to the way it should be without this fraud.
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  And now in
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  doing that, you're no longer a piece of property.
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  And so now you can send it to the IRS second,
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  and they have to recognize it.
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  Okay? And so, what I advise to people that didn't that don't have any, if you got problems with these guys, get it straightened out somehow.
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  Hopefully,
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  if you you don't have any problems upcoming on the horizon with them and you got a clean slate.
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  If you got a clean slate, you know, Brent, you ever gone out and done job interviews? You probably hadn't too much but when they send you a thing, they say, the ideal candidate is,
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  well, in our instance here, the ideal candidate has a clean slate
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  because I think that gives you the green light. You you file, you just have to know who to file it with and in what order and understand why
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  because the first one, all persons born are naturalized, you're brought into the world and considered to be property. That's why they can make these man made laws, regulations that attach to you, and that's why they can take you and collateralize
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  you and be the basis of the world's reserve currency which controls the world.
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  But once you're not one of those,
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  the IRS can't come in. We had a site recently. I think I sent it to you because
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  I'd never seen it before. I wish I'd seen it a few years back. It was I think an appellate level and the guy said, unless the the defendant can prove he's not a citizen of The United States, the IRS can move to assessment and collection.
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  Now, when they get to the back end and this is very important too. When they get to the back end, you started out this conversation with it. What were they doing? They were garnishing the guy's bank account.
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  What is garnishment?
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  It's one of the four self help remedies: lien, levy, garnishment, and seizure.
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  What are the only bodies of law in history and still today where those are used as remedies?
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  Unknown: Well, you're thinking the government uses them, but Roger, here's what's confusing about that.
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  If they're self help remedies,
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  the word self help as far as I can find is always used to talk about
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  somebody other than the government helping themselves. In other words,
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  self help is when a man won't pay his rent and you go down and bodily throw him out of his house along with all of his stuff
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  right out in the street. Don't even bother to open the door, just throw him out.
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  That's self help. And the law
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  often says,
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  you don't have that
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  option under law. We don't allow that. We want you to come to the courts and do it and go to order and all
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  all the stuff that courts can do for a restraint restrainer.
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  But so when you say self help
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  and then you apply it to the government that confuses... I don't know if it accuses others, it confuses me because I don't see the government has has any options to help themselves
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  under the terms of the law. What they're doing is just committing tyranny. That's the difference. It's not self help, the way I'm looking at it. Go ahead. Okay, well we're talking about private law, and if you really want to get down and understand this to its roots, the IRS
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  Unknown: is not part of the government.
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  They're part of the bankruptcy,
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  and you can prove that a number of ways, but the easiest way, if you want to reassure yourself, is go to Title 28, which is Treasury,
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  and in that book, in the code, United States Code, there's a list of every agency that operates under the umbrella of the Treasury Department.
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  Guess what?
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  They're not there.
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  Unknown: So you're... And
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  Unknown: they're under and they work through the Treasury because
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  bankruptcy, the Secretary of the Treasury position
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  was formed. Remember, before that, there was a treasurer of The United States.
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  There there wasn't a Secretary of Treasury. It was a new office that evidently they set up right before to handle the bankruptcy and then again, in The United States code, in that very same code, 28, I believe, there's a statement, the Secretary of the Treasury is the governor of the fund.
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  What fund? The International Monetary Fund and that's who the IRS is, is in collections working through them.
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  And you can get into a lot of that minutiae, but I think it would be better for our meat loving audience
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  to get into this other area that we stepped off of on the path, and that's self help remedies,
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  because in all that I've come to understand on this,
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  I believe self help remedies
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  are the precursor of tyranny because
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  people do not understand them and people's these authority figures start coming and grabbing your stuff and you're intimidated in the corner and don't know what to do and lay the whole authority mantle on them when it's nothing but these self help remedies.
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  So, understanding
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  what they are and how they've been used, how they operate,
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  and how they've had turning points in history.
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  It was these remedies
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  that changed the first two hundred years in Rome from the just
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  Seville,
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  the law of the civil, allegorically
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  to our common law, okay, laws from god
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  over into the just Jensen.
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  It took two hundred years for them to do it but what was the motivating factor for that change?
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  Self help remedies.
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  Unknown: Well Roger, you're still... And I see what you're saying, I'm catching it. I have a friend right now and I'm involved in with him trying to remove renters from his house
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  and from his
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  his property.
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  Fellow moved in, didn't have any money, started begging $5 a day for gas to get to work so he could go to work and pay the rent. He didn't pay that back. He he hasn't paid any rent for about four months. He moved a woman in. He's got four children plus an infant. Now he's moved now he's moved into
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  to... What
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  are they? Pitbulls.
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  The house is being ripped apart.
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  You can see it in the windows. They're they're trashing the place.
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  So my friend says, well, I gotta get them out of there. So he tells them to get out. He writes them a letter. He goes over. He says, I can inspect the property with two days notice according to contract.
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  He asked the police for a standby so that the dogs won't kill him while he's in there. He
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  talks to the police. The police say, well, if you go in there, we're gonna arrest you. We can come out there. Yeah. But if you go in, we'll arrest you. He calls the city attorney. He knows the city attorney.
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  He knows his his brother lives next door to him. He said, well, if you go in there, we're gonna arrest you. He calls the mayor. He knows the mayor. A small town. The mayor says, look, I can't do anything about it because the mayor doesn't know anything about it.
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  So
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  what does he do? He files an action because there is an action you can file and if you follow it precisely,
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  Unknown: the law says It's called dispossessory or dispossessory?
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  Unknown: No. It's called the restraint and restrainer, I think, something like that. But we did all that. Now that that's been done,
• 26:25
  then we have to set a court date. He wants to fight it. The fellow that's doing this is... Has been in the system since he was a very young boy.
• 26:33
  He was a foster child. He never had parents. He's 28 years old now and he's he's a criminally dangerous man.
• 26:41
  And he has threatened now...
• 26:43
  This fellow with physical violence if he doesn't leave him alone. And he knows he got the system down cold. He knows he can stay there until
• 26:51
  the courts or somebody order him out. Now, Roger, here's the way it's supposed to work. I went through these fifteen years ago. I hadn't done one in fifteen years, but you finally get the judgment against him, then you can take it to the sheriff. Right. Then the sheriff can go in and he can throw all of his stuff out into the road and throw him out of the house just like that. It can happen. But
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  that is not a self help remedy once you get that going. That No. That and that's
• 27:18
  in place to
• 27:20
  to thwart people from trying to use self help. When I compare that process
• 27:25
  to what you're saying, I see the same thing. I see it where the banking system which is private is using the government,
• 27:33
  the force of the government which is what the court's all about to get what they want. That's not a self help remedy. Self help is when the bankers come in with guns drawn and they do it themselves. They take your money or whatever. But that's not what's happening here. Now you did say, Roger, that the IRS...
• 27:50
  Unknown: Didn't you say they were not an agency of the government? That's the way I've come to conclude from all the evidence I've seen all these years.
• 27:56
  Unknown: Yeah. If if if that's true, I suppose it wouldn't be a self help remedy but once they get the Department of Justice involved,
• 28:05
  Unknown: that's not a self help remedy anymore. That's what I'm saying, Ron. Well, yeah, but let's start out legally here we're talking on two different levels again. You're talking a colloquial level and I'm talking on a conceptual level.
• 28:16
  Okay, Where these things came from, how they originated, what they are, and how they operate.
• 28:21
  It's very interesting. I think this is the precursor tyranny. Do you see?
• 28:26
  John used to say these guys know the law and they know the Bible and they know history one hell of a lot better than we do.
• 28:33
  I haven't had that experience. Matter of fact, I think they're pretty ignorant of all three of those but go ahead. But the people at the very top now, I'm not talking about these ones we interact with. Alright? The ones that set this stuff up and and operate it, alright?
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  The way that I understand it,
• 28:49
  and I'm no great legal scholar, I've just studied this stuff and I guess the big guy gave me a gift to be able to put it together conceptually,
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  and that's how I do it, and that's really
• 29:00
  the key almost to the successes I've had right there, especially in the last eight to ten years.
• 29:07
  What's the big problem on a standard contract? I mean, it's the same problem that allowed them to bring the Jewish Shetar into the English common law.
• 29:17
  Okay? And the problem was, I've got a brief that John wrote on this for a guy named Dean Stoner years ago. I'm going have dig that up and send it to you, Brent. I think I saw it the other day.
• 29:29
  What the and and I would tell the audience, if you want to read further on this, much more eloquent than I can tell you here
• 29:37
  is to go over to sovereigntosurf.com.
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  Sovereigntosurf,allspelledout.com
• 29:44
  and over on the right hand side, about halfway down, Brent, I'd I'm I'm curious to know if you've ever read this.
• 29:51
  It's a very scholarly tome
• 29:54
  so much so it was published in the Georgetown Law Review back in the 1970s
• 29:59
  by a Jewish named Judith Shapiro,
• 30:03
  and the title of the article is How the Jewish Shetar Invaded the English Common Law. Have you ever read that?
• 30:10
  Unknown: I have.
• 30:12
  You had referred to it two years ago and I went and read it, showed me where to get it.
• 30:17
  Unknown: Good. Well, it's a very detailed history, isn't it? And she lays out the whole story
• 30:23
  except the one thing that a Jewish Shapiro forgets to tell you or neglects to tell you in there is that the Jewish Shetar is something you could identify with called a ten forty form.
• 30:35
  And so what happened just for the audience, it might the the red meat eaters that want to know the origins of this stuff and how it came about. It makes total sense.
• 30:45
  The common law was prevalent in England. England absolutely 100%
• 30:49
  depends on trade.
• 30:51
  They got wool and oats and stuff. They can't eat them all or use them all. Other people want em and they want what the other people have got. So, the traders of the world have got several big port cities there, Liverpool and I'm not sure which of all all of em were but
• 31:06
  in those particular trading centers,
• 31:09
  when the merchants, foreign merchants, probably our Edomite pals would come to town and the common law boys would screw em out of a contract and they'd have to go. The only remedy they had was to go to a common law court proceeding
• 31:23
  through the formalities of it and then, they do all that and the guy they had that owed him money, his his best friend had come over and lie in court and they get nothing.
• 31:34
  And so they got frustrated and quit coming and that cut off the trade routes.
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  And so got to be so acute that in, I believe, the year 1285
• 31:46
  was one of the English queens because they number their laws on the king or the queen and the year of their reign.
• 31:52
  And it's in that brief. I'll send it to you.
• 31:57
  And in that year of her reign they passed what's called the Statute
• 32:01
  De
• 32:01
  Mercantoribus,
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  the Statute of the Merchants,
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  and what it allowed them to do was to designate these trading towns, Liverpool,
• 32:12
  etc, designated ones now initially
• 32:15
  as staple towns,
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  and if there was ever then the mayor of the town was the mayor of the staple,
• 32:24
  He's the one that did the operations.
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  So, if there was a trade dispute, it would come to him. He being the mayor of the staple would put it under seal,
• 32:36
  very important,
• 32:37
  okay?
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  Under seal because
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  that means
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  penalties of perjury
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  type stuff
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  and once that was done,
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  any wealth or any rents, any payments, any land sales, anything that came into that
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  debtor's
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  hands was taken to satisfy the debt.
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  Okay? Until the debt was satisfied and then, that system
• 33:04
  worked so well and straightened out that problem
• 33:07
  that when Henry the eighth was the king, you've talked about him before. He said, that works so well. I'm going to incorporate it into my tax collection system and that's when they moved it to the exchequer.
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  It's important.
• 33:24
  Oh, okay. Go ahead. Ahead. Don't want go away from this self help remedy and the concept of it because it's very important because that was the problem that the lack of it caused,
• 33:34
  okay? So, what the law
• 33:37
  merchants evidently even before Rome had come in contact with this problem and had straightened it out and this was the method that they used. It's not evil. It's just used for evil. It makes perfect sense. People in our country do it every day because they sign car contracts
• 33:53
  and every one of em has this in there. To be what's called, it's I believe it's in the UCC
• 33:59
  in the section called specialty
• 34:01
  contracts
• 34:02
  and if it it it has a couple of things. It's got, if a contract has these attributes, it's one of these contracts.
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  You can call it a Jewish Shetar, you can call it a ten forty form, whatever, okay? But it's got to have a recognizance
• 34:18
  in it and it's got to be signed under seal.
• 34:22
  So, what's a recognizance?
• 34:25
  And these words, when I came across this with him twenty five years ago, this threw me for a loop but I've had years to think about it and see how it works, okay? A recognizance
• 34:35
  is nothing but the base word recognize.
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  So a recognizance
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  in a contract
• 34:40
  is something that refers to another body of law.
• 34:46
  Okay? Let's use example of the current
• 34:48
  car contract. When you go sign a car contract, there's a recognizance in it. It refers over to the state law that you're in, and it says, If you don't pay your payments in this much time in this sequence,
• 35:01
  we're going to come grab the car. Self help.
• 35:06
  Because if we go to the old way and I gotta go to a case and get on a docket and go and get a jury and get a judgment,
• 35:13
  hell, you may be in Timbuktu with that car by then.
• 35:17
  So, see there's there's applicable uses for this. It's just that like everything else. Here's the dialectic again. Everything can be used for good or evil. Well, they just turn it around and weaponize it, alright?
• 35:30
  And so, what are the what are the ways they do it? Lean, levy, garnishment, and seizure. Only those four and the only bodies of law in the history of the planet
• 35:41
  that they've ever been used in, Brent,
• 35:44
  are the law merchant
• 35:46
  and the manorial
• 35:47
  law from the feudal system.
• 35:52
  Unknown: Well, I'd still say, Roger, that I wouldn't call it self help. Well, that's what they call it. I mean That's utterly utterly confusing. Well, what they do isn't what I wanna do. What they're doing is trying to confuse people. Okay. If you're using the power of government to do something, that's all government is is force. And, of course, people that are evil wanna get their hands upon the use of government. That's why The United States is now the the the force that's used around the world to support the banking system, for example.
• 36:21
  Well, I would I would say something else. I know that they use that term. For example, Roger, we're talking about the staple statutes.
• 36:29
  Statute staple.
• 36:30
  Statute staple. Well, I... The statute staple
• 36:34
  of England,
• 36:36
  staple is just a word that means market. It's a Latin word. It means marketplace.
• 36:41
  And they found that, like you'd pointed out, of course, that England needed to trade with the continent.
• 36:47
  But the great
• 36:49
  fly in the ointment for Europe
• 36:51
  has always been England,
• 36:54
  especially England.
• 36:55
  And the reason it's the fly in the ointment that caused the problem for those that want to
• 37:00
  lend money and those that want to trade,
• 37:04
  buy low, sell high,
• 37:06
  and do it in such a way that they can use
• 37:09
  usury with it. And that's part of it. Money exchanging this... The coin of the realm versus the coin of the of the Roman Empire or the Holy Roman Empire or France.
• 37:19
  England has been the problem because England
• 37:22
  is a common law country
• 37:24
  and the bulk of Europe at that time, not all of it, still parts of what we call today Scandinavia
• 37:30
  and the Germanic states and different places were,
• 37:34
  as we would say,
• 37:36
  bulk reich jurisdictions
• 37:37
  up until the Reformation, the time of Martin Luther.
• 37:40
  But when they came over to England, they didn't have the same remedies.
• 37:44
  So England, as you pointed out, they created zones where these remedies from the Roman Romanesque
• 37:52
  law would apply so that
• 37:55
  merchants
• 37:56
  from the continent, many of them were Jewish. That's true. They could they could get
• 38:02
  get what they wanted for their trade, and that would encourage them to come back. And at the same time, it would protect the local people. But there was no other way they could deal with it. It got so bad that they had courts called pie powder courts.
• 38:16
  Pie powder.
• 38:17
  Pie powder means
• 38:18
  foot dust.
• 38:20
  Put
• 38:23
  it in the Latin kind of languages, but it was a a foot dust court. In other words, they were saying this is a court for people that got dust on their feet because they walked over. They're they're traveling salesman,
• 38:34
  and they're from the continent. And we have a special court here for these people so they they can
• 38:40
  they can try their cases.
• 38:41
  And then they they got to say it, okay. We need to have juries in these courts because we're a common law country.
• 38:48
  But, course, having a jury of people that spoke Anglo Saxon wasn't gonna help these merchants from Spain and France and and Italy.
• 38:56
  So they said, okay. Here's what we'll do. We'll we'll devise what we call a jury of the halftone.
• 39:01
  The halftone.
• 39:03
  In other words, half the people on the jury will speak English,
• 39:06
  Anglo Saxon, and the other half of the people on the jury will speak French or Latin or whatever.
• 39:12
  The... Wherever this this person is from. So one man's an Englishman, he's one one party to the problem. The other man's
• 39:20
  Italian.
• 39:21
  So they said, well, we'll have a jury that's six and six speak two different languages.
• 39:26
  Well, how stupid can that be? How ridiculous can that be? And here's what England did and this is the problem, and God said don't do it. Now if the boys from the continent wanted to come and trade, the Bible says that if you
• 39:39
  are in your country,
• 39:41
  it says there will be one law
• 39:43
  and one set of judgments and statutes for everybody within the territorial bounds of your country. And if you try to do anything else, it's gonna get confusing and you're gonna get confused and you're gonna be open
• 39:57
  to
• 39:58
  the people that wanna come in and take over. The the bankers for example, and that's what's happened in this case. Yeah. And those staple statute towns were a compromise.
• 40:08
  That was like
• 40:11
  kings of
• 40:13
  milcomizing the neighbors, cutting deals with them, and the law of god says point blank and more than one place, don't do that. Don't make leagues. Don't make bonds. George Washington in his his
• 40:24
  his farewell speech to The United States says, don't get involved in tangled agreements
• 40:30
  with the world powers. Don't do that. So what are we doing? We're doing that. And what have we done? You... For example, sales. So the...
• 40:38
  This is the way the evil empire wants to do it. They wanna say, as this writer of this law reviewer...
• 40:44
  Law review article,
• 40:45
  Shapiro said
• 40:46
  said,
• 40:47
  well, how the Jewish shatar became part of the common
• 40:51
  neighbors and kin, the Jewish shatar
• 40:54
  never became part of common law because anything that is against
• 40:59
  what God said, says our common law courts and have said for centuries is not part of our common law no matter what it claims. Well You know, we need to be vigilant to say, no. This is not part of our common law. No. This has not crept in to our common law. Nothing can creep into our common law that's contrary to the laws of nature, and the laws of nature is God. Now it can creep into your country. It can creep into your brain and infect it like ants in the attic and that's what's happened and we begin to accept
• 41:29
  these
• 41:30
  principles of banking, for example. And I agree with you.
• 41:35
  It's crept into our country but I don't wanna say it's... Number one, I don't wanna say it's crept into our common law. That's impossible as a matter of law. Number two, I don't wanna say that these are self help remedies because these these fellows have got their bony, greasy, burminy, sticky,
• 41:50
  thieving fingers.
• 41:53
  All the all the levers
• 41:55
  of
• 41:56
  power,
• 41:57
  and they use the United States government, the governments of the states and the courts to enforce by force, and that's all government is again, to enforce by force their evil law from an evil god. And they got it done
• 42:13
  Unknown: through bankrupt in the country and bringing all these systems in. I think it's very instructive.
• 42:19
  It has been for me to look back in the, it's in my book. I've got this in the book.
• 42:25
  On the first time,
• 42:27
  when they must have really realized
• 42:29
  what this could do because that was Rome
• 42:32
  and what happened in the days of Rome, the first two hundred years of Rome, they were under a system of law called the JUS, like
• 42:40
  Chris likes to use, JUS
• 42:42
  Seville,
• 42:43
  C I V I L E, the law of the citizen, if you will,
• 42:47
  and that was basically the common law, God given rights in a formal
• 42:52
  trial setting.
• 42:54
  And as the empire expanded
• 42:57
  and the empire
• 42:58
  expands where it goes to, a lot of these merchants from those areas now want to come to Rome because now it's in the empire and that's the center of trade.
• 43:07
  So, they started infesting Rome
• 43:09
  and they brought this because of the Babylonian merchant code. That's where it came from, okay? And so, they brought it in and they start trading and they start trading with the Romans and all of a sudden, the Romans
• 43:22
  can't use this but they these these traders can and so the the
• 43:29
  attorney
• 43:29
  general of Rome
• 43:31
  was a guy named the Praetor.
• 43:34
  You've heard of the Praetorian Guards. He had his own army, okay? And they the Rome was smart enough to change the Praetor every year because they realized the power
• 43:45
  and so every year, there was a new Praetar
• 43:48
  and every year, the Praetar that came in would most generally accept the body of customs and law that his predecessors
• 43:56
  had used, but over a period of two hundred years
• 44:00
  with pressure from the just Seville people
• 44:05
  wanting to access
• 44:06
  this easy way of remedy
• 44:09
  in two hundred years,
• 44:11
  it changed the system of law in Rome to the just ginsome
• 44:16
  which I would reach to say maybe just
• 44:20
  in in logical
• 44:21
  think following is now what we call the Roman civil code.
• 44:27
  Unknown: And the principles of the Roman civil code are constantly
• 44:31
  constantly pressing against us. I've always had that's never stopped. You made the point way back in Rome and that's the main battle.
• 44:39
  The main battle we have in our own country today.
• 44:42
  But the evil empire is all about subversion.
• 44:45
  They do not want a head on confrontation.
• 44:48
  They wants to want to do everything they they do by infiltration,
• 44:51
  espionage,
• 44:52
  for example. Those are the words that came up in the cold war, but that's true. Rome built her empire not by military force. People believed she did. She didn't. She'd press upon a city on her frontier. She moved forward. She had a whole system set up where they would send in infiltrators
• 45:09
  to create dissent.
• 45:11
  And once dissent was created and it got hot enough in the the mumbling and the talk and as we would say today the press, then they had other folks that would come in and say, hey,
• 45:21
  We've got an answer.
• 45:22
  And then by having the legions
• 45:24
  available and everybody knew who the Roman legions were, that was the leverage behind it. That was inside the velvet glove and they'd say, well, we can fix this if you will allow us, you won't have this problem anymore. We have a system in place in the Roman Empire that takes away from this. Why don't you join us?
• 45:42
  And being afraid, they did. Now there were military
• 45:46
  actions, of course. But in most all cases, the Roman Empire, the evil Empire, the
• 45:52
  just Seville, the code of Justinian
• 45:55
  prevailed
• 45:56
  because
• 45:57
  of
• 45:58
  infiltration,
• 45:59
  espionage,
• 46:00
  dissent. That's why the bible says, beware of those that murmur.
• 46:05
  They murmur
• 46:07
  and by murmuring,
• 46:09
  by whispering in the tents as they used to say, that's what the word really means, that's where the evil comes, that's where the danger is. Did you ever watch that movie, Roger?
• 46:19
  I was thinking of this just the other day. It's a great example. Two movies as a matter of fact. One of them was Cain Mutiny. Yes. Cain...
• 46:26
  Cain Mutiny was all about about a murmurer.
• 46:30
  Unknown: I love it.
• 46:31
  Know what? Nice things about living in Ecuador, Bren, is I get fresh strawberries
• 46:36
  every day.
• 46:40
  Unknown: That was a good point.
• 46:43
  Interest people. That was a Humphrey Bogart movie. But what the movie was about and it was a true story written by a naval officer who saw these things happen in World War two is about a mutiny on a small tin can, that's a destroyer like ship because
• 46:56
  the commanding officer Humphrey Bogart
• 46:59
  was having emotional failings a little bit. And instead of supporting the commanding officer, instead of pumping him up, instead of picking up the slack,
• 47:08
  there was a murmurer there who knew little... He thought he was some kind of a half arsed shrink.
• 47:13
  And he'd been reading psychology books played by Fred McMurray by the way, famous Fred McMurray. And he and he infected the minds of two other officers that were weak enough to be infected. One of them was the executive officer of the tin can. So And when they got in a hot situation
• 47:29
  and the commanding officer officer showed a little weakness instead of supporting him, instead of saying you can do it and instead of whatever,
• 47:37
  he took over the ship and the other officer joined him and then he was tried for mutiny. That's what the definition of mutiny is and acquitted.
• 47:45
  But the lawyer that defended him and won
• 47:49
  was incensed by what had happened. He wanted to defend this guy but he knew what had really happened, what was behind it all, he saw it and he knew it was wrong. The Bible says you make it easy for the man that goes before you. You don't make it hard on him. He's bearing a burden and responsibility
• 48:06
  you don't bear. Speak not evil of the ruler of thy people and it starts in your home with your husband
• 48:12
  and your
• 48:13
  father. That's where it starts. If you can't do it there, you can't do it anywhere and your country, once enough people get like that, is gonna fall apart.
• 48:21
  There must be this idea
• 48:24
  that we support those that officially that God has ordained for whatever reason to go before us. We go into our courts. We speak respectfully.
• 48:33
  The judge falters. You say to him, judge,
• 48:36
  don't say that. Don't say you're stupid. I've said that to judges before.
• 48:40
  Judge, we're dependent upon you to have the wherewithal to hear this case and give us a just result result. Don't run yourself down. I know who you are. You you don't... You're not gonna have a you know, when people have the responsibility they have often such as in cane mutiny,
• 48:55
  it can become it can become overwhelming.
• 48:58
  It can be... It can drag you down. Ask anybody who's tried to raise six, eight, 10 children.
• 49:03
  Everybody's hanging on them. Mom is hanging on them, children are hanging on them, and they never quit hanging on them. And what happens in those situations is
• 49:12
  if
• 49:13
  there's not support for his leadership position,
• 49:16
  and this goes for judges in courts, this goes for
• 49:19
  elders in churches if they take their position seriously.
• 49:23
  Most of them don't. Most of them don't even take fatherhood and husbandhood seriously.
• 49:27
  But if they do, this cane mutiny is instructive in that way. And some people will conclude, well, the guy was going nuts.
• 49:34
  That's not the point.
• 49:36
  The point is God has ordained him. Help him as much as you can. Now there comes a point I understand where people just put their responsibilities
• 49:44
  down and quit and leave. Fathers do that, husbands do that, and officers
• 49:49
  and military units do that. Judges do that. I read a court case about a judge in Oklahoma.
• 49:55
  He was setting in murder cases and he was abusing himself during the trials of murder cases. Remember that.
• 50:01
  Yeah. And, I mean, the the guy was on meth. He was gone,
• 50:05
  and something had to be done. But even in those cases, Roger, where a man is doing that kind of despicable thing in the courtroom,
• 50:12
  not even paying attention in a murder case, you do it according to the law if you can. You do it respectfully. You do not demean the man. If he's got that far gone, he's still
• 50:23
  God's man in this sense. God made him. God made him out of his holy imagination. You don't abuse him. You do what's gotta be done. But
• 50:33
  in all of this,
• 50:34
  it's important to recognize
• 50:36
  that we must recognize
• 50:39
  if we're going to have any order in our country that the only remedy
• 50:43
  for lawlessness
• 50:44
  is God's order. No. Not always even doing what he tells you to do otherwise. If you can't recognize authority going up and get in it and recognize authority going down and take control and authority where you're... And yeah, authority where you're supposed to, then there will be no remedy for our lawlessness.
• 51:02
  Unknown: Well, that's that's what I'm trying to do here, Bren, is get people aware of this, this background, understand it, get rid of their fears,
• 51:10
  and and see if they want to go ahead and take control of their lives because you see, it's not mine. I've already done this. I've got my freedom. I've had it for years, okay? What I'm trying to do is to help other people achieve theirs so it strengthens mine.
• 51:23
  It's a selfish motive in the end, okay, but we've
• 51:27
  got to have some sort of a movement like this of recognition
• 51:30
  and understanding
• 51:31
  and re empowerment,
• 51:33
  okay, because their whole system is designed to steal your power from the minute you come out of the birth canal, alright.
• 51:42
  Unknown: That's exactly right. I want to add one other thing when you get done, go ahead. Well, it's why these
• 51:47
  Unknown: things, these origins of this stuff understanding is not mystical and they're not all, they're not like the great Karnak, okay? They're not all omnipotent
• 51:56
  and all powerful.
• 51:57
  They hang their hat on fraud.
• 52:00
  They do it. Like you say, they have to whisper in the tents and they have to do it in the background and they have to do it in secret.
• 52:08
  And they you and and the way you do it is by
• 52:11
  terrorizing people.
• 52:13
  Okay? What is what is
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  being terrorized is nothing but lack of power.
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  Okay. Yes. And they've, you've got the power. It's given to you
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  in the womb and when you come out of the birth canal, they steal it from that point and whip all these things on you. That then, we come generationally
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  to take his fact
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  and you can't fight city hall. I'll be damned if you can't fight city hall. I fight fought him and beat him, okay? These are nothing but history slavers
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  that have found a really unique way of putting you in a contractual
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  obligation
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  that you don't understand
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  that here's the key that is generational.
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  Unknown: Well, I'm in an obligation, Roger. So I'm gonna say something here. Yeah.
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  I'm... Uh-huh. And I... Well, we all are and I'm talking about me right now. It's not selfish to defend your jurisdiction. The whole world will tell you you're a selfish selfish
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  selfish ass
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  for saying that nobody's gonna run over you. Well, in certain circumstances,
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  if that's not done, you're spitting in God's face and you're gonna pay a price. If God has given you authority,
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  and he has by the way, every man has been given authority from God directly
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  to do certain things. You have to know what those things are. And once you're in jurisdiction,
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  in your jurisdiction and doing those things,
• 53:35
  if you don't defend that jurisdiction, I mean, the high heaven and down to low hell defend them, you're spitting in God's face and despising him. Now it comes down to this. When babies come out of the womb as you had mentioned,
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  the evil empire is not stupid. I should say no. No. The evil empire, those in it are stupid as all get out. They're useful idiots.
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  But the one at the top of the evil empire is not stupid.
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  He's sharp.
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  He's been around for centuries. He knows
• 54:03
  what makes things go and not go. And he knows from the jump that the key to what God wants...
• 54:10
  God will get what he wants. No question. But he has calculated. He's at war
• 54:15
  and he knows
• 54:17
  that the key to what God wants, fundamental key, controlling key is one thing and all he has to really worry about and everything he does comes against this one thing Roger and he hides what it is and most people know and nobody's gonna tell them what it is, but God has told us and he's shouted it. He shouted it in the laws of nature, unwritten in the nature of things and he shouts it in the laws of nature's God written in the Bible as Blackstone puts it. And that is this,
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  that the key to what God wants in the world on this earth down here on land
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  is the male of the species.
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  Mhmm. That's what the Bible teaches and there's no getting around it. If people wanna know what the Bible teaches, that's what I'm talking about. You don't agree with me? Well, that's not my job to make you agree with me. It's my job to proclaim what it says.
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  The covenant of God as the reformers used to say. The covenant. What do they mean when they say that? They use that fancy word. That means the responsibility
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  that God has given direct
• 55:17
  to his people.
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  Direct to his people and he does that by giving it direct to the male of the species. That's what he did in the Garden Of Eden. That's why that narrative is put there. He gave authority direct, if you'll notice,
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  direct to Adam
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  and then he took the woman from the man, the two were one flesh and then they became as we'd put it in English, Adama,
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  mankind.
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  Adam,
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  conclusive.
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  The authority
• 55:46
  for mankind God puts on the man. How many men know that? How many men exercise it? Been my observation, very few even know it, but I know this too. To exercise it is an ultimate act.
• 55:59
  The evil empire has worked the whole tradition,
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  the whole
• 56:04
  system to mitigate
• 56:06
  against maleness.
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  And the reason they do it is not because they just hate men, it's because the the
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  orchestrator of the evil empire
• 56:15
  hates the maker of all things. Understand that's how it works. Men have been given jurisdiction.
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  To understand what that is is to have a lifelong passion
• 56:24
  to learn the laws of nature and the laws of nature's God. It's not about tyranny of men. It's about men
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  being like Jesus Christ in many respects.
• 56:35
  He has been given that authority and we are under him. Every man is under him and we answer to him but we also have to know what our authority is and it's not to be given to the female. The female of the species can't have that authority, that same authority. It is utterly impossible as a matter of law, as a matter of the law of the sovereign, the maker of all things.
• 56:57
  To understand that distinction, is it any mystery, Roger, that what we see in the world today in our own country and throughout the world,
• 57:05
  a blurring of that distinction
• 57:07
  and an utter taking over of the confusion of the sexes. Once the sexes are confused through the lesbianism
• 57:14
  and sodomy,
• 57:15
  then anything's possible and that's where it is now. We have a fellow running for president of The United States
• 57:21
  specifically
• 57:22
  said to be from one of the most conservative states in the union, namely Indiana. Don't believe it. He is given a name that clearly is not his name. Go look at his name and say, who could make this kind of stupidity up? That's not his name.
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  He is somebody from out of nowhere like Obama.
• 57:38
  He's taken out of nowhere. Nobody knows where he came from and nobody knows where he's going. Just as it says of the messiah of God. It's all this mystery, all this intrigue.
• 57:48
  And now we've got this guy running for president that is a weird sick
• 57:53
  SOB,
• 57:53
  son of Belial. They're so... And
• 57:56
  And people will support But
• 57:59
  it comes back to this. I wanna end it with this, Roger. It all comes back to what God has said and what he wants. What does he want? He wants men. The covenant comes through men to take dominion over the land, lordship according to his terms. What's that? That we call that his Torah,
• 58:15
  his law.
• 58:16
  That's what he wants and to have that passion.
• 58:18
  Unknown: Underneath all these things we talk about is what makes life worth living. Get back to you, Roger. Wow, man. Somebody else. I want to tell you what, we've covered a bunch of ground in the first hour. For those of you who are meat eaters, you ought to be getting just about full. We got a several people on with us. Shane joined us. Joined in there and then Robert came in. Chris, did you have anything to add to what we've covered today?
• 58:42
  Or is it Chris in the shower again? Chris might be in the shower again.
• 58:47
  Unknown: Okay, Robert. I was actually
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  in a pretty loud
• 58:51
  I
• 58:52
  did wanna go back to his early observation about the fellow in the tax situation where they were putting him in for a year and
• 59:01
  big fine and so on and so forth. That would seem to be in opposition to the Tyler
• 59:06
  Kims.
• 59:08
  The ties
• 59:10
  versus Indiana case under the eighth amendment's cruel and unusual punishment aspects
• 59:16
  being a...
• 59:18
  They could've simply filed a lien on his property as opposed to locking him up and eventually got their money. But instead, they sold the most punitive
• 59:28
  and forceful,
• 59:30
  Unknown: action as opposed to something reasonable and sane. Well, let me let me. So, that's all I've got. I'll mute out. Okay. Well, I'm gonna add something to that. This abortion issue has got these people in a tizzy,
• 59:41
  okay? And I don't know whether you've seen some of the stories that are breaking
• 59:45
  surrounding Georgia
• 59:46
  and all this stuff here in the last twenty four, thirty six hours or not but it's pretty darn obvious. This abortion thing is a real important area to them.
• 59:57
  Robert was there and then Kay just joined us and we always appreciate our female and Robert, I'm going to try and go to decorum here and touch base with Kay first because ladies go first and Brent was just talking about this issue. I knew that know that this is a real important issue to her. Hey, Kay. How you doing, sweetie?
• 1:00:17
  Unknown: Hi.
• 1:00:18
  Hi. I'm doing well. I'm doing well. I I often listen
• 1:00:22
  when I get a chance but not always but I like to come in on Friday because
• 1:00:27
  I have questions for Brent.
• 1:00:29
  Just so you know, I don't disagree with this at all. Not at all. I'm not calling for that reason.
• 1:00:36
  I...
• 1:00:37
  My father died when I was very young. And so it wasn't until I got grandchildren
• 1:00:43
  that I went,
• 1:00:45
  wow. Boys are really different than girls. I mean, majorly different.
• 1:00:51
  So I have... I'm not calling in for that reason. But, Brent I have a question and it deals with the IRS.
• 1:00:59
  If you don't mind and I'm hoping I don't want to take you off topic
• 1:01:04
  but I do want to ask this question.
• 1:01:07
  I'm on your website in the media part of it and you have all these little,
• 1:01:14
  you know, like six to eight minute segments and one of them is on usury.
• 1:01:19
  And you mentioned,
• 1:01:20
  I hope that I'm doing it right. I don't know if it's an f or a p, but fungible or fungible, something like that. Fungible.
• 1:01:27
  Fungible.
• 1:01:28
  Okay. So I've listened to it now twice,
• 1:01:31
  and I'm pretty sure I understand the difference.
• 1:01:35
  A fungible
• 1:01:36
  item
• 1:01:37
  is one that you can't...
• 1:01:40
  It's just right. This... That... That's one that you cannot give,
• 1:01:47
  wait a minute,
• 1:01:48
  the same thing back. In other words Correct. Like money or grain or something like that, a fungible item,
• 1:01:54
  you cannot... Like like, you can't go to a Hertz,
• 1:01:58
  guy and rent a car, and you have to bring that same car back. Well, it's not the same for money. So I do believe that I understand what that is but what I don't...
• 1:02:08
  I can't quite wrap my wits around it
• 1:02:11
  is
• 1:02:12
  why that is as it is.
• 1:02:15
  Why is
• 1:02:16
  it when you cannot give
• 1:02:19
  the same thing back
• 1:02:22
  that ownership
• 1:02:23
  and transfers?
• 1:02:25
  Do you... Maybe I just don't understand law enough that I'm trying to think of examples
• 1:02:31
  of why this would be
• 1:02:33
  and I can't.
• 1:02:35
  Unknown: Well... So I thought I would call.
• 1:02:38
  Unknown: Well, I'm sorry?... Say something. I'm... I'll say something about it and then I feel like surely Roger might wanna say something about it. But the
• 1:02:47
  idea of things that are fungible
• 1:02:49
  isn't forthrightly taught in the law of God.
• 1:02:52
  When you go to the law of God, and when I talk about the law of God, I'm talking about the particular law of God as Blackstone likes to categorize it, the Bible itself.
• 1:03:01
  Clearly you see what usury is. The word for usury
• 1:03:06
  in the Bible
• 1:03:07
  is a word that has to do fundamentally with the sting
• 1:03:12
  of a scorpion and the bite of a viper.
• 1:03:16
  It is that money that stings and bites because
• 1:03:20
  usury is it stings and bites in the end. It destroys, it kills and the Bible says not to do it and we have examples in the Bible of usury even of 1% per year
• 1:03:32
  is heinous crime.
• 1:03:34
  So that's the application of it. No, not like our states are saying for example, I remember Arkansas had a law that said any usury that's less or any interest
• 1:03:42
  that's less than 10%
• 1:03:45
  per year is not usury.
• 1:03:46
  Well, that's just silliness. It is usury and it's dangerous They and it will
• 1:03:51
  Unknown: tried to put a limit on Yeah, put a limit They on got the nose of the camel under the tent right there.
• 1:03:57
  Unknown: And
• 1:03:58
  Europe
• 1:03:58
  refused to do that for centuries,
• 1:04:01
  Usury was usury. It was against the law. But then
• 1:04:05
  things that are fungible and that's a Latin word because there's no Hebrew word in the older testament for it that I know of, haven't found any yet, are things as you have described where you give something to somebody. We sometimes use the word commodity
• 1:04:19
  for a thing that's fungible.
• 1:04:20
  Corn,
• 1:04:21
  wheat,
• 1:04:22
  barley,
• 1:04:23
  even lumber, coal. For example, anthracite coal is fungible
• 1:04:28
  as long as all the coal in the bin is anthracite.
• 1:04:30
  Peat moss is probably a fungible item. I don't deal with that much but I apply the law of standards to it.
• 1:04:37
  Gold and silver are fungible as long as they're
• 1:04:40
  by weight, they're gold and silver. In other words, you give me
• 1:04:45
  gold and silver, a pound of gold and silver and I agree to give you a pound back at some point.
• 1:04:52
  But here's the difference,
• 1:04:54
  if you give me let's
• 1:04:56
  say an ounce of gold,
• 1:04:58
  I need an ounce of gold and you say well I'll loan you an ounce of gold, you just have to pay me an ounce of gold back.
• 1:05:05
  But you loan it to me under contract
• 1:05:08
  that requires me to spend it.
• 1:05:11
  Well once that happens,
• 1:05:13
  I can't give you back the gold I gave you. I gotta go get some other gold to give you back.
• 1:05:18
  And this whole idea of fungibility is wrapped up in the banking system. The Bible says
• 1:05:23
  anything that's consumable,
• 1:05:25
  anything that's loaned to another person for the purpose of him consuming it,
• 1:05:31
  corn, wheat,
• 1:05:32
  he takes it because he's hungry. He wants to eat or he wants to feed his family.
• 1:05:37
  If
• 1:05:38
  it's consumable,
• 1:05:40
  you're giving it to him to
• 1:05:42
  spend
• 1:05:43
  like money.
• 1:05:44
  Then the Bible says, God says,
• 1:05:47
  you can't charge him a surcharge on top of it when he pays you back because you're giving it to him to consume it. I read a case when I was in law school, this is fascinating to me and we had a big library back in the days when we had that ancient way of doing things you know you would
• 1:06:03
  you had
• 1:06:05
  these papers and bound
• 1:06:07
  books where you would open them and read them unlike scrolling today in the Internet.
• 1:06:11
  But I go down and when I had a little free time or got burnt out doing what I didn't like to do, I just sat and read these old cases from Puritan New England and they're all in the statute or the the case law books, can go read them.
• 1:06:23
  Massive bunch of them bunches of them but there was one case where
• 1:06:27
  the lieutenant governor and it was either of the colony Of Massachusetts or
• 1:06:32
  Connecticut, I don't remember, but he
• 1:06:35
  he loaned
• 1:06:37
  10 bushels of corn. I'm talking about corn on the cob type corn, American corn, maize
• 1:06:44
  to a neighbor who needed it to get him through the rest of the winter to feed his family.
• 1:06:49
  And he did it under a contract
• 1:06:52
  that
• 1:06:53
  he would get 12 bushels come next harvest
• 1:06:56
  and he was prosecuted for it and convicted
• 1:07:00
  for
• 1:07:01
  entering into a usurice contract.
• 1:07:04
  You see the corn was consumable.
• 1:07:07
  Two problems there. It's consumable
• 1:07:09
  and if it's a consumable item loaned with the understanding that it's going to be like money spent or like grain consumed
• 1:07:18
  under a contract to give back something of like value whether it be that or something else.
• 1:07:24
  Well, that's usury and that's against the law and that was the law of New England because in those days the the men that lived there, they didn't have any statutes. They didn't have a legislature, they followed the statutes that were in the Bible. Worked very well for them as long as they used them.
• 1:07:38
  That's why usury is against the law. Usury was called throughout Europe.
• 1:07:44
  The...
• 1:07:45
  Oh, I'm looking for the word. It's mixed. It's it's escaping my mind. It was called the the
• 1:07:52
  scourge.
• 1:07:53
  The scourge of all mankind. It is. The great plague. It wasn't
• 1:07:58
  allowed at all. Of course, the Jewish population of Europe engaged in it and in England they engaged in it and the reason they were allowed to do it was because
• 1:08:08
  number one, the king and other people that dealt in the system wanted the money. So they just kind of left them alone but the only protection the Jewish man had in England and you can read about this if you'll... It's in Magna Carta, it's mentioned and then of course it has a whole history behind it.
• 1:08:25
  What happened in England was
• 1:08:27
  they wanted the money especially King John in the days of Magna Carta. He had hocked himself up with these fellows but these Jewish people, these Jewish
• 1:08:35
  money lenders, no Jew in England had any protection of the common law back then. Why? Because they weren't Christian.
• 1:08:42
  They were
• 1:08:44
  apostate.
• 1:08:45
  They were of ultimate evil to be a Jew. That's way they looked at them. But the one thing the Jewish man had was
• 1:08:52
  he had money and the ability to loan it and that was his protection. He had no law to protect him. So as long as you would give the crown what he wanted,
• 1:09:02
  the crown would protect him because he was his cash coward. It got to be such a big deal that the Jewish money lenders were called the sponges of England. And they were called that because they had a way and this is what usury does of course of getting all the money into their hands. It all migrates over the years into a common place and the usurer, the banker always becomes that common place. Well, once that happened that relieved the king of all of the hassle of trying to get money out all these taxpayers.
• 1:09:31
  He would just go to the Jews and say, well, you've done a pretty good done pretty good this year. I want half of every
• 1:09:37
  bit of your profit. Well, the Jews had no choice but to give it to him because they had no protection under the laws of England and if they didn't do it, he'd just bring the law down on them. So they made lots of money. That's how much money they were making from 42 and a half to 40 or to 83 and a third percent interest at that time in England during the days of Magna Carta per year.
• 1:09:59
  And so they
• 1:10:01
  were the major source. Well, once a
• 1:10:04
  revenue for the crown.
• 1:10:06
  Well,
• 1:10:07
  in all of that
• 1:10:09
  in all of that, it was against the law. But the evil the evils of men, the evils of the crown, the evils of other
• 1:10:16
  men that wanted that money. They wanted money they didn't have and they wanted to be able
• 1:10:24
  We're
• 1:10:25
  willing to participate in that system.
• 1:10:28
  That ultimately is what destroys us. Our our... You know, the... Al Capone said, hey. Why are you prosecuting me for? I just give them everybody in Chicago what they want. What do they want? They want hookers, and they want drugs and liquor. I give it to them. Why do you prosecute me? I'm not the problem. In Germany during World War two, the Nazis made the mistake of saying,
• 1:10:47
  well, it's the Jews. They're the problem. Were they the problem? Yes.
• 1:10:50
  But at the same time, the ultimate problem according the way God says to handle that is,
• 1:10:56
  problem was the German people. What did they want? They had... They wanted what the Jewish people in England offered, namely pornography, prostitution,
• 1:11:05
  liquor, and drugs.
• 1:11:06
  And so they went after it and kept them in big business and big money. And they could send their children then to all the fancy schools and they became the judges. Well, that made the
• 1:11:16
  German people mad. They said, we gotta get rid of these Jews. Well, they were the ones that funded them. They were the ones that put them in those positions and the same thing is true anywhere you go. It is not ultimately, God says this,
• 1:11:29
  the problem is not the people that tempt you. He'll take care of them.
• 1:11:34
  The problem is us. And to put it even more precisely,
• 1:11:38
  the problem is the male of the species, not the female.
• 1:11:42
  Eve was not the problem says the Bible in the New York Testament, not the problem in the Garden of Eden. It was Adam who followed her. She didn't. She was trying to do the nice thing. She wanted nutritious food for her family. She wanted food that was pleasing to the eye.
• 1:11:59
  She wanted something that would make her family healthy mentally and physically. Lust of the flesh, lust of the eyes, vain glory of life. That's where that comes from. She wanted that for her family, for her husband.
• 1:12:11
  But he should have had the discernment to say as good as that looks,
• 1:12:15
  my dear, we can't do that. We gotta do this over here because in the long run it will destroy us. He's the problem and that is why the Bible says by the way,
• 1:12:25
  if my
• 1:12:27
  people shall hear my voice and pray and humble themselves,
• 1:12:31
  I will heal their land. That's not talking about the female, the species, not at all.
• 1:12:37
  My people,
• 1:12:38
  people, the word the
• 1:12:40
  people, my people, Amy, same same root word. It always refers to the militia
• 1:12:47
  of the 12 tribes of the separate tribes of Israel. It always refers to the male of the species that participates in government.
• 1:12:54
  Always always always when it's supplied to Israel. It could be applied to Assyria and talk about there are men too, but in most all cases in the older testament, the phrase the people or my people refers to the male of the species. It's not a female word. It's not at all a female word. If all the women in America got down on their faces before God and prayed, it wouldn't change America.
• 1:13:17
  The thing that will change America is when the men
• 1:13:20
  get down and pray. Now people say, well, doesn't doesn't... Isn't it important that women pray? Well, of course, it's important. You know, they have equal standing before God. Yes. Yes. Yes. All of that. But when it comes to healing the land, that comes back to that covenant with our grandpa Adam. That comes back to what has to reverse.
• 1:13:38
  What has to reverse. What has to reverse is what the male of the species did and the female of the species cannot reverse that. The male must reverse. So this is my my
• 1:13:50
  my...
• 1:13:53
  It's a cry almost to men.
• 1:13:56
  I understand who you are for crying out loud. No. You cannot ignore God and have honor and dignity as a man. You cannot.
• 1:14:04
  You have abandoned your honor and dignity that he would give you. And the only way to do that is to humble yourself before him and pick up your responsibilities.
• 1:14:13
  Thank God for ladies that pray. There's things they can pray for. Many men have turned.
• 1:14:19
  Many men have turned
• 1:14:21
  to God because of the prayers of their mothers, the prayers of their wives, all that's true but ultimately
• 1:14:27
  the key and the thing that has to happen is that men have to be humble before God and understand
• 1:14:35
  then
• 1:14:36
  to have that regret that has no regrets. They must regret their past and then they must act on it. That's the very definite definition.
• 1:14:43
  The regret
• 1:14:44
  that does not have the fruit of regret as Martin Luther says is no regret of all. Isaac when he gave the blessing to the wrong son,
• 1:14:53
  it said he trembled and shuddered and cried
• 1:14:57
  but he didn't do anything about it.
• 1:14:59
  He didn't have that regret that has no regrets.
• 1:15:02
  The regret that has no regrets and that's the way Martin Luther translates repentance in some places
• 1:15:07
  in the German tongue. The regret that has no regrets is the regret that says, I regret what I did
• 1:15:13
  and then that produces a fruit of I'm flipping this around and going the other way. That's metanoia. That's the change of mind.
• 1:15:20
  You gotta do something and most fundamentally is to get things in order. Now back to fungible Roger because she was kind enough to ask just one
• 1:15:29
  confined question and I
• 1:15:32
  Unknown: You've elaborated.
• 1:15:33
  You've been elaborated. But
• 1:15:35
  Unknown: when when it comes your turn to talk, we bring it back to fungible probably because we don't wanna ignore that but a fungible item is an item that our law says for purposes of ease of trading
• 1:15:46
  is irreplaceable,
• 1:15:48
  Unknown: it's exchangeable, it's all the same. Go ahead Roger. Well, a couple of things, Kay, don't forget, I think it was Albert Einstein that called compound interest
• 1:15:57
  the most powerful force in the universe and the eighth wonder of the world.
• 1:16:03
  Okay? So, that's their weapon, alright?
• 1:16:06
  And let's
• 1:16:07
  differentiate
• 1:16:08
  that from gain.
• 1:16:11
  Okay? Interest
• 1:16:13
  on money versus
• 1:16:14
  gain.
• 1:16:15
  So,
• 1:16:16
  if you've got an adjacent farm and I bring my bull over and he services your cow and we get two calves,
• 1:16:24
  we split them equally.
• 1:16:28
  That's gain.
• 1:16:30
  If I loan you money and ask you to pay me back with some percentage on top of it compounding,
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  that's usury.
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  Does that help at all?
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  Unknown: It helps considerably,
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  you know, giving examples and
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  and
• 1:16:50
  etcetera and and going into all the other things about it. I just... I was trying to go and and the biblical
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  part of it. In other words, I just couldn't wrap my wits about why.
• 1:17:03
  Why is this like it is?
• 1:17:06
  Like This is not. Did you
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  and
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  and Roger
• 1:17:10
  and Brent, both of you, that has helped a lot. Thank Well,
• 1:17:14
  Unknown: let's go back and look at something even more poignant to what we usually discuss around here.
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  So when you come out and are born,
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  you're not fungible. You're another human being, but you're a really unique human being as we all are, correct?
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  Unknown: Right.
• 1:17:32
  Unknown: Okay, but what do they do under this system? They assign you, because you're considered property,
• 1:17:39
  they assign you a birth certificate and now the birth certificate's fungible, isn't it?
• 1:17:45
  Unknown: Yeah.
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  Unknown: But you're unique and and if you go back to that to the legal concept of the warehouse
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  receipt,
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  okay?
• 1:17:57
  And and the case that John used to use as an example was a case out of New Orleans, and
• 1:18:03
  it had to do with a bale of cotton in a warehouse,
• 1:18:07
  and the bale of cotton had been issued, and they still commonly use this in commerce, it's my understanding,
• 1:18:14
  receipt.
• 1:18:15
  The warehouse receipt,
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  when it's issued,
• 1:18:20
  takes on the character of the good.
• 1:18:24
  In other words, the bale of cotton, which is not fungible
• 1:18:27
  Every bale of cotton is different. They're different weight, they're different wrapped, etc, okay?
• 1:18:33
  So when the warehouse receipt
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  then becomes the bale of cotton,
• 1:18:39
  and that's what John always thought in this system is the way they're using the birth certificate. The birth certificate legally is a warehouse receipt and
• 1:18:49
  then,
• 1:18:50
  you take on a shadowy existence and they have constructive possession of the paper which is you,
• 1:18:58
  okay? Now, if you go back to Black's Law Dictionary and look at villain, V I L L E I N,
• 1:19:05
  regardant,
• 1:19:07
  that's a specific type of villain, there were different types.
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  The definition says,
• 1:19:13
  a villain
• 1:19:14
  attached
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  to the land, property,
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  and
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  transferrable
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  by deed,
• 1:19:22
  a warehouse receipt in the form of a birth certificate.
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  Unknown: And
• 1:19:29
  that was when?
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  Unknown: That was back in Old England? That was in the feudal era.
• 1:19:36
  Okay. The feudal era. Villain. He was in voluntary servitude. He was a villain. And Bren, I wanted to add this. Daryl's joined us and so has Patrick.
• 1:19:45
  I want to add this the other day. I mentioned it and Daryl said it makes sense. I was watching some videos on Rome and ancient stuff recently
• 1:19:53
  and the way and we say the feudal system developed out of the downfall of Rome.
• 1:19:58
  Well, they went into specifically how that happened, okay,
• 1:20:02
  and it was as Rome got stretched out and the military support, the legions,
• 1:20:07
  got all in dis they
• 1:20:09
  weren't getting paid, they weren't fighting, and these outlying towns along the era were being attacked by the Goths and the Visigoths
• 1:20:18
  and so they would go to the town to congregate for safety and as they started even invading the towns,
• 1:20:25
  the people that lived there would go out into the country and went to the old Roman landholders and
• 1:20:31
  ask them for protection and that's where the feudal system started.
• 1:20:36
  Unknown: Oh my god. Yes. Uh-huh. Go ahead.
• 1:20:39
  Unknown: So, I just want to that because of all the context that we've had in the first hour here on historical
• 1:20:45
  settings and stuff. Daryl, you were five minutes late.
• 1:20:52
  Unknown: Well, this is a good good morning or afternoon to everybody. Brent,
• 1:20:58
  you're really you're really bringing it today. Thank you so much.
• 1:21:03
  Powerful.
• 1:21:04
  I I don't even know where to start, so I'll just jump in here at the beginning.
• 1:21:12
  Similar what you spoke about earlier, you and Roger. By the way, Roger,
• 1:21:17
  I thought your first hour was,
• 1:21:19
  in laying that out was basically
• 1:21:22
  brilliant.
• 1:21:25
  And
• 1:21:26
  if we go to 28
• 1:21:28
  US code out of their book,
• 1:21:31
  3,002
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  subparagraph
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  15,
• 1:21:37
  it states
• 1:21:38
  unequivocally
• 1:21:39
  that United States under terms and definitions
• 1:21:43
  is a federal
• 1:21:45
  corporation.
• 1:21:48
  And
• 1:21:51
  take that for what it is.
• 1:21:53
  I take it at face value myself because it it fits with
• 1:21:58
  what I observed.
• 1:22:00
  So
• 1:22:01
  on the matter of
• 1:22:04
  the remedy of our social dilemma
• 1:22:09
  being in the hands of men, if I was the enemy,
• 1:22:14
  I would eliminate
• 1:22:15
  and undermine and destroy men.
• 1:22:18
  This is
• 1:22:19
  a prime... Be... Because then there wouldn't be a remedy here on Earth.
• 1:22:24
  And, of course,
• 1:22:27
  we we observe that daily.
• 1:22:32
  I thought you were gonna get to the point there, Brent, where you said repeal the nineteenth amendment.
• 1:22:36
  I thought I thought that was coming. I thought that was coming. But
• 1:22:41
  in fact,
• 1:22:44
  that is how far back in
• 1:22:49
  what you would call our modern times that this agenda and plan has been started that
• 1:22:54
  by by absolutely understanding what you were talking about in the Garden of Eden and Adam and Eve and the different jurisdictions and responsibilities,
• 1:23:04
  they knew
• 1:23:05
  those that had an agenda
• 1:23:07
  that this would would
• 1:23:09
  build a foundation
• 1:23:11
  for the destruction
• 1:23:13
  of the authority and and, of course, the jurisdiction and responsibility of men. And and now it's just taken for granted that it's been abdicated.
• 1:23:25
  So
• 1:23:27
  the the female of the species been... Has been played
• 1:23:33
  pretty strongly here because they understand the psychology
• 1:23:37
  and the hormones
• 1:23:38
  that you described so well.
• 1:23:41
  And they knew that
• 1:23:44
  that they could use the female
• 1:23:48
  as the proxy warrior of equality
• 1:23:51
  and diversity
• 1:23:54
  and leverage that, which they did. They laid the foundation.
• 1:23:59
  This was the established... You know, the the nineteenth amendment laid the groundwork for basically
• 1:24:05
  all the
• 1:24:06
  most
• 1:24:07
  abominable abominations that we're experiencing now. They were the first proxy warriors.
• 1:24:13
  Then they they
• 1:24:15
  they leveraged the
• 1:24:18
  the black people
• 1:24:20
  as the next layer of proxy warriors.
• 1:24:24
  The next one through the seventies and eighties was the
• 1:24:29
  feminism.
• 1:24:30
  They went back to the female, the feminism,
• 1:24:33
  and they escalated it and expanded it.
• 1:24:37
  The next one was the global homo
• 1:24:41
  global homo.
• 1:24:45
  And
• 1:24:46
  the next one after that was through the destruction of other lands
• 1:24:51
  on...
• 1:24:53
  Destroying other lands and peoples
• 1:24:55
  and then
• 1:24:57
  trying to show benevolence and mercy and conscience. Well, we must allow them to come in here.
• 1:25:04
  And now they've used the
• 1:25:08
  the South American, Mexican
• 1:25:11
  peoples as proxy warriors.
• 1:25:13
  You see how this just all builds, and now they're using their
• 1:25:17
  all the while, they were working on the children to change the culture. Well, in all this, who is missing?
• 1:25:24
  Okay. While this is all going on progressively,
• 1:25:27
  who's missing?
• 1:25:28
  The man.
• 1:25:30
  And and who is facilitating
• 1:25:33
  this destruction of men?
• 1:25:35
  Other men.
• 1:25:37
  Unknown: Yeah.
• 1:25:39
  Unknown: Daryl, you sent me a really good you sent me a very good video the other night.
• 1:25:44
  The black pill report that
• 1:25:47
  really covered this. Yeah. The guy did a real good job. He does good production. He did the narration and it was really hard hitting. You want to tell the audience a little bit about that or reference it anyway? I don't remember the title of it but I think he's got a channel, the black pill report.
• 1:26:03
  Unknown: Yeah.
• 1:26:05
  Yeah. It's about nineteen... I think it was sixteen or nineteen minutes long.
• 1:26:09
  Caution, there is some
• 1:26:13
  hard language in that. It's...
• 1:26:15
  You go on YouTube, you go to the black pill report,
• 1:26:19
  and,
• 1:26:21
  honestly, I can't remember the title of it right off the top of my head.
• 1:26:25
  As a matter of fact, that particular
• 1:26:29
  YouTube was sent to me by...
• 1:26:32
  I can find it really easy too. It was sent to me by Lou Patrick over in Thai... Thailand.
• 1:26:38
  And
• 1:26:40
  Lou is...
• 1:26:42
  Lou doesn't call in, and he's on... He's, you know, halfway around the world, but he really...
• 1:26:48
  He he really comes up with a lot of really good stuff.
• 1:26:53
  The...
• 1:26:54
  So so
• 1:26:57
  everything that's being talked about
• 1:26:59
  today was just over the top important and powerful,
• 1:27:04
  and
• 1:27:05
  I just so enjoy hearing you two guys do this.
• 1:27:10
  And
• 1:27:12
  the
• 1:27:14
  the the other point I wanted to make was that the next continuation of this is
• 1:27:20
  your South Bend mayor,
• 1:27:23
  Boutigieg,
• 1:27:24
  booty jay.
• 1:27:28
  Actually, Brent, there is a lot known about this cat,
• 1:27:31
  and,
• 1:27:33
  I'll send you some do a pen.
• 1:27:36
  Unknown: You know, that's a cute
• 1:27:38
  Unknown: I'll send you a link. I'll send you a link to
• 1:27:43
  doctor e Michael Jones.
• 1:27:47
  Was...
• 1:27:48
  He was born and raised
• 1:27:50
  three houses down from doctor e Michael Jones who is
• 1:27:55
  bringing bringing the fire and bringing the thunder on this whole this whole thing.
• 1:28:00
  So he has in-depth knowledge of this cat.
• 1:28:05
  And so the video you're looking for on the black pilled report on YouTube is called
• 1:28:11
  the benefits
• 1:28:13
  of no attachments,
• 1:28:15
  which That's right. Goes back to the hyper... The hypersexuality
• 1:28:19
  of people, which was through the sixties and seventies of sex,
• 1:28:23
  drugs, rock, and roll.
• 1:28:25
  And now we're in
• 1:28:27
  the... As the baby boomers, you know, your generation,
• 1:28:30
  Brent Rogers,
• 1:28:32
  part... Somewhat part of mine on the tail end of it. Through the after through the seventies, it was sex, drugs, rock, and roll,
• 1:28:39
  licentiousness,
• 1:28:41
  license,
• 1:28:41
  libertine
• 1:28:42
  liberty,
• 1:28:44
  and and this was to promote...
• 1:28:47
  Well, in fact, what it has.
• 1:28:49
  It was... Needed to be done before abortion
• 1:28:53
  could be brought in.
• 1:28:55
  And
• 1:28:56
  so then what we have now is that generation of the sixties and seventies
• 1:29:02
  aren't doing sex, drugs, and rock and roll.
• 1:29:04
  They're
• 1:29:06
  fat, dumb, and unhappy,
• 1:29:08
  okay, is what they are now.
• 1:29:10
  And and... But there there are no effect. They're they're not present. They're not in the battle. They're not engaged.
• 1:29:16
  They're irrelevant.
• 1:29:19
  And
• 1:29:20
  so
• 1:29:22
  Unknown: Let me... Yeah. This has been on online the last thirty six hours, Daryl, because of the uprising. I don't know if you know about this, Brent, but two major corporations,
• 1:29:33
  Disney and Netflix,
• 1:29:36
  have
• 1:29:37
  refused to do any productions in Georgia
• 1:29:40
  because they've signed this fetal heartbeat law.
• 1:29:44
  By the way, Louisiana signed one yesterday too waiting on the court case before they implement it, if they do.
• 1:29:51
  And you can see how they react to anything threatening their little abortion deal. Now, the abortion deal, they tried to pull this off in the 20s,
• 1:30:03
  in the roaring 20s, but they didn't have the technology
• 1:30:06
  and that's where women were dying because they were getting abortions in alleys with coat with the clothes hangers and stuff, okay?
• 1:30:14
  And
• 1:30:15
  it is
• 1:30:17
  a necessity for them to get the abortion in so that everybody
• 1:30:22
  can then be promiscuous.
• 1:30:28
  Are we looking at the wrong thing? Is, you know, are we concentrating on the abortion and looking what it's protecting?
• 1:30:35
  And the abortion protects them to be able to promote promiscuousness.
• 1:30:41
  Unknown: Well, the subraces don't get Okay. The subraces don't get it. They they don't... Subraces don't get abortions. Only the Anglo Saxon white race is the majority of the abortion. Well, I... That's not my understanding. It's
• 1:30:53
  Unknown: my
• 1:30:53
  that majority of the abortion is blacks.
• 1:30:58
  Unknown: Well, the white folks are getting sucked into it just as ugly. You know, abortion started
• 1:31:03
  by a Jewish woman who hated... She was bigoted against people of color, and the whole idea of Margaret Sanger was to eliminate
• 1:31:11
  the Negro,
• 1:31:12
  as she called them, from America.
• 1:31:15
  And she is that if you go to the... I had a friend who went to Holocaust Museum,
• 1:31:18
  and he's a big supporter of Israel. Has been all his life. He's into all that eschatology.
• 1:31:23
  The state of Israel I'm talking about. Not the Israelites, but the Israelis.
• 1:31:27
  And he went to this museum because he loved the Jewish people, and he noticed there a
• 1:31:33
  display about Margaret Sanger.
• 1:31:35
  He got so mad about it because he's anti abortion,
• 1:31:39
  he
• 1:31:40
  went to the curator of the museum and said, why do you have this here? Well, she's a wonderful Jewish woman, etcetera etcetera. Listen, they know what's going on. She was a hateful,
• 1:31:49
  ugly, murderous woman. And now this whole idea of abortion, of course, once it it
• 1:31:55
  moves away from the black community,
• 1:31:58
  then the white folks start doing it. But here's the problem with abortion, I'll throw this in quick and then you gents have good things to say and I love listening to you.
• 1:32:05
  But
• 1:32:07
  abortion,
• 1:32:08
  again, it comes back to the fundamental of the covenant of God. What is the fundamental covenant of God? It's all about the land. It's about taking lordship over the land. And what are we to do? It has two parts. You're to be fruitful first, and you are then to spread out. The Hebrew word means to scatter.
• 1:32:23
  And you cannot
• 1:32:25
  be be fruitful, you cannot scatter if you don't have babies that are growing up. We're all a part of that. Even if we don't have babies, we're still here. We were a baby once, we were born,
• 1:32:36
  and it's our job to take dominion over the land the Lord our God has given us. To take lordship according to his terms, everything you see in the evil empire that comes down, we concentrate on that thing and we don't say, wait a minute, what does God want here? Why does he... Why is he against killing babies? Well, he's against killing babies for the same reason he's against false imprisonment and penitentiaries.
• 1:32:57
  You don't find that in the bible either. The reason he's against it is because it impedes man in his ability to fulfill what
• 1:33:05
  God wants man fundamentally
• 1:33:07
  Unknown: to do. And everything bends back to that one thing, back to whoever was speaking and talking next to that is to take dominion over your land and all of those other systems wanna take dominion over you.
• 1:33:21
  Unknown: Good point, Roger. That's the I just wanna Yeah. Go ahead. Yeah. I just wanna add, Brent, to... That was spot on. And,
• 1:33:29
  you know, the way I would say...
• 1:33:32
  Recapitulate
• 1:33:33
  what you said is
• 1:33:35
  no children,
• 1:33:37
  no future.
• 1:33:38
  You have no future. True.
• 1:33:41
  No children,
• 1:33:42
  no future.
• 1:33:44
  Okay. Now if I have to explain that to somebody
• 1:33:47
  Unknown: Go on. I'm probably gonna move on. Go on to the next one. I'm probably gonna move on. Nope. That's what you gotta do.
• 1:33:53
  Patrick, you've joined us again and Patrick's kinda new to our group here last few months and stuff absorbing a lot of these concepts. How you doing today, brother?
• 1:34:03
  Unknown: Oh, pretty good. I'm just trying to dial everybody in, cracking the whip,
• 1:34:08
  sitting in North Mississippi right now. Like, the,
• 1:34:11
  you know, the edge of where the rubber meets the road and where the usury comes in, they're like, you're basically a gerbil on the wheel. You get off on the weekend, but if you wanna get ahead, you run it seven days.
• 1:34:21
  And what they'll do to you, and they've done it to me,
• 1:34:24
  and I'll never forget this. The banker, he loaned me that $253,100,
• 1:34:27
  I wanna buy a million on on something that's worth 3,000,000 down on Main Street, our shop. And,
• 1:34:33
  he said, we'll cheat you right.
• 1:34:36
  Unknown: And
• 1:34:37
  I never realized for a long time.
• 1:34:41
  Unknown: And Bill's old country boy loan more than anybody. But, you know, that 6% I was paying,
• 1:34:46
  and if you look at, they set you up on a thirty year, but it's a five year balloon. And I said, why is that? They say, well, if the interest rates go up or down, we can adjust them. And they they stack the cards where they pull all their interest off the front end. So when you resign again, you get the same medicine. Well, they're they're they're getting all their money upfront. Your principal. Yeah. It goes down. And they never loaned you. You're talking about robbing somebody. And they never loaned you anything. That's highway robbery. They never loaned you anything. You made the whole thing possible by signing their promissory note. That's the scam.
• 1:35:16
  Yeah. I'm renting it. All I'm doing is renting it. Hey, the cool thing was though the little wet Jewish auditor
• 1:35:23
  that came in in o eight when the economy
• 1:35:25
  tanked,
• 1:35:26
  I couldn't even get a bid on. I cleaned up some property for a Robuck auction
• 1:35:31
  and, some different things and made some money off of it. Said, well, put five of it in auction. I couldn't even get a bid on my place back on the economy tanked in o eight. And,
• 1:35:41
  the little Jewish, auditor that come to the bank, they got mad or in hell. She told them that they were gonna table my loan, and they got a 50¢ word for it. I can't remember. But, basically, every payment that I make is gonna go
• 1:35:53
  to my principal until it gets averaged out of what it's worth. It was only worth about 700,000.
• 1:35:59
  It was worth 1.9,
• 1:36:00
  then it went to 700.
• 1:36:02
  When that thing tanked, and they said... They told them. So for five or six years,
• 1:36:06
  they had to eat it. And every dime I paid went to my principal. And then they come out and cornered me about two years ago and said that you signed and we're pulling your loan. Because I was bucking and and stomping and and and threatening them and tell them I ain't doing a damn thing. And all
• 1:36:21
  three of them come down and set the lunchroom table with me and and gave me an ultimatum. And I said, okay. And that's called. Okay. Now, this is important. This is important right here what you just touched on.
• 1:36:31
  Unknown: What they were using is called an acceleration clause
• 1:36:34
  and there's an acceleration
• 1:36:36
  clause in every mortgage that's ever underwritten
• 1:36:41
  they've used that in the past in the 30s,
• 1:36:45
  and they're going to use it again here in what's coming up.
• 1:36:49
  And what that basically means is nowhere, it doesn't where you are in the mortgage,
• 1:36:54
  they can demand payment within a certain number of days. Isn't that right Brent?
• 1:36:59
  Unknown: Yep. If it's in the contract, then the government has said or the courts have said they'll enforce it and it gets crazy. This story he's telling is
• 1:37:08
  Unknown: boy, that's telling, but put it that way. It's telling. Go ahead, Roger. Oh, gosh. Of Let me let me bring Gary in here because Gary, our good listeners, just joined us, and he... He's doing good today. What's going on, Gary?
• 1:37:22
  Unknown: Hey, Roger, everyone. Greetings.
• 1:37:26
  Unknown: Yeah. I just didn't wanna interrupt Patrick's flow there. I thought you had something to add
• 1:37:31
  Unknown: because he's got Well, I I a little financial background.
• 1:37:36
  Unknown: Okay. Okay. Yeah. I I was just a... It was just a thought
• 1:37:40
  on the
• 1:37:41
  the... On the question of usury that Kaye brought up.
• 1:37:45
  And the thought came to mind,
• 1:37:48
  isn't... Wouldn't you say usury is,
• 1:37:52
  in simple terms,
• 1:37:53
  one person's gain at someone else's expense?
• 1:37:59
  And
• 1:38:01
  and if it's if it's not if it's not a good deal for
• 1:38:06
  for all concerned, it's not of God.
• 1:38:09
  Unknown: I would say that is a pretty good way to put it, but... And that's a nice general statement. But God has put very specific limits on what it is and what it isn't, and we should be aware of those also. But I like what you said, absolutely.
• 1:38:24
  Because if it's not a deal for both parties,
• 1:38:26
  God says at least here's the problem, we're not willing to take risk. Usury eliminates risk for the banker. The banker doesn't take any risk and this story that Patrick just told, they hit it He illustrates it pretty well. That was unbelievable.
• 1:38:42
  You know you gotta
• 1:38:43
  the old saying, the bank won't loan you money unless you prove you don't need it. In other words, if you can have enough collateral three times over, things are triple, quadruple collateral. I just went through a massive case against a bank. Had the two bank executives on the witness stand each of them for about five or six hours apiece. I really didn't believe when I took that case
• 1:39:03
  that I would... I didn't have confidence that I could win it because I know that everything is stacked for the bank and the insurance company all over America. It's been that way for a long time but I said there's an outside chance,
• 1:39:17
  my man wants to be heard, he wants his story told,
• 1:39:21
  I'll get an opportunity to cross examine these bank employees, these bank executives and I did and I learned a whole lot. Things that almost made me fall off my chair, I had to act like I wasn't surprised.
• 1:39:33
  It's sick what they do and what the court support and what they do. They keep double books. Yep. That's normal course to keep double books. It's normal course to not tell the fellow you loan money to
• 1:39:45
  really what his status is, lie to him which they... Oh, this is just... And you know they always say this when they wanna justify something that's clearly wrong, illegal. They'll say, well that's the the course of process, that's how we do banking, we've been doing that for a long time.
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  Well then it becomes okay. Customs and
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  usage is a category Now of
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  that's true, that's okay in our courts. Matter of fact, if we don't have customs and usages, what we call stare decisis, we become a Roman civil law jurisdiction.
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  That's one of the fundamental keys to our common law. We pay attention to cases that have gone before and we try to follow the principles unless proven clearly wrong. That way there's a consistency,
• 1:40:26
  a very precise consistency in our law that the rest of the world doesn't have. But for a private party to say, well, that's my... That's the way I've always done things, therefore it's lawful. No. That doesn't work. We've we've always screwed people. We've done... Been doing this for three thousand years and you're gonna tell me it's not lawful? We've been stealing, robbing, murdering, shed, bloodshed all over the world. Yeah. And you're gonna tell us that now we can't do that anymore? Well, that's... We don't wanna tell you that, mister banker. That's what the courts say. That's right. And it is true also that in European history
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  European history, which we say Western history, which is what
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  governs the world. So we're just saying world history really at this point. Rome,
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  Babylon,
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  when we see that,
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  they say and said that is usury is the scourge of all mankind.
• 1:41:15
  Yes. But they also said and rightly said that all evils among men
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  flow from usury.
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  Well, is that far fetched? Well, you go read the bible. You look at the fundamental will of God and you parse it out and see where the lines are drawn about usury, what it is, how it's defined, what the words mean, and you you say, well, you know, that's an arguable position. All of the evils of mankind to rise out of usury. But here's the problem, God help us.
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  We're in a position all over the country. You can hardly do anything without
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  engaging in usury of some kind and being a participant.
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  Unknown: That's the problem. And they know that and they've got us in that position. Well, you kidding me? They've designed the system like that. Wasn't anything like a thirty year mortgage in The United States before the 1930s.
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  They only lent
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  on ten year mortgages is my understanding.
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  And for Kay and anybody else that's particularly interested in this usury issue,
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  there's been a really really scholarly
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  tome written on it in the last couple of years by Michael Hoffman.
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  I think... Didn't you say you'd read this book, Brent?
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  Unknown: No. I was gonna mention it, Roger, and I'm glad you talked about it before. Michael Hoffman, he was a writer for AP Press and he has gone into writing books about well,
• 1:42:33
  usury being one of them. And he wrote a book about usury. I recommend
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  people to read it. You can get the fundamentals out of it then he goes into a lot of history of how it became accepted again in European culture. Also how it became accepted in England because it was against the law utterly until Cromwell,
• 1:42:51
  Unknown: until the English revolution. They were. They had those
• 1:42:54
  little those little users out of the country for three or four hundred years and Cromwell brought I them back in.
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  Unknown: Brought them back. But here's another thing too I want to mention Roger because I'm afraid I'll forget it. During the Reformation, usury came back into vogue. Oliver Cromwell was part of the Reformation.
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  He was a Puritan.
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  He
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  tried to bring the bible and he required that his troops during the English revolution carry copies
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  of
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  of the Geneva bible in small print in their... On their persons.
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  But
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  John Calvin is the one that really pushed to bring usury back with the Reformation
• 1:43:33
  and it is of significant note to try to identify who he is.
• 1:43:38
  Now I'm not against everything Calvin. Calvin was saying the things people wanted them to wanted to to be said about the Bible. He wrote commentaries on every book of the Bible except one. Just one. This is a significant note too. We're going through Revelation on Sunday on our
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  podcast thing.
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  And
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  that's the one... He wrote detailed
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  commentaries but not on the book of Revelation.
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  And I think that's significant and I think that ties into his identity,
• 1:44:08
  who he really is. But I'd ask people to go look that up and see if they can find out, but I think that has something to do also with why he was the one that promoted usury and said this should be part of the Reformation. Back to you Rodney. He didn't like that Revelation two:nine-three:nine
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  Unknown: couple of verses there I'll bet you.
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  Douglas from Northwest Arkansas has joined us. How are you doing, Doug?
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  Unknown: Yeah. I'm a cosmos,
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  but I don't wanna open up a new thing here. I'm doing well,
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  so to say. You know, I always look on the brighter side of things no matter what's going on because
• 1:44:45
  I know where I'm headed
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  and but
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  the reason I called today and I just wanna thank you, Roger, and thank all the other
• 1:44:58
  just esteemed
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  people that talk on your show regularly and of course, Brent. And so having said that, I wanna say, yes, I I have a.
• 1:45:09
  Unknown: Hold
• 1:45:11
  on, Doug. Hold on. We wanna hear what you gotta say. Talk right in the mic and if you other guys that are on could mute your phone out, it take take away some of that ambient noise and help us out because we don't have the great microphone stuff going on today. Continue, Doug, please.
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  Unknown: So I have a statement and a question for
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  Brent. The statement is that when it comes to usury,
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  I try to... In all my years in in the father's kingdom as I esteem myself to be
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  one of his offspring,
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  I...
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  In... On this subject here,
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  I think of misusory
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  as being
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  based upon something a father
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  creator hates which is
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  un
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  Untouched ways. Unequal ways in...
• 1:46:03
  Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And so that's that. That's my statement.
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  And
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  and then the question
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  is,
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  what is the opposite of usury?
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  Gain.
• 1:46:19
  Well,
• 1:46:20
  no no, the opposite of usury.
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  Unknown: The opposite of
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  usury is non usury.
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  Well, that's the opposite of everything. Well, gain. Opposite of a is non a and opposite of b is non b. The opposite of usury is no usury, but go ahead. And that's gain. Well, and You know God had a way of dealing with it. I gave the example earlier, you had the bull and the cow and you split the calves,
• 1:46:45
  Unknown: that's gain.
• 1:46:47
  Unknown: Well
• 1:46:49
  well, I have my idea about what the opposite of usury is
• 1:46:54
  and
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  I like your comment on this. I think the opposite of usury
• 1:47:00
  is giving freely.
• 1:47:03
  Unknown: Well, that's a good point. I understand your point too. Obviously, if you're giving, for example, somebody comes to you and say says,
• 1:47:10
  hey, I wanna start a business.
• 1:47:12
  I wanna start a chicken ranch. I want 10,000 birds. I don't have enough money to fund it, you wanna go in with me? And if somebody came to me and said, well, my neighbor wants me to go in with him on a 10,000 birds chicken ranch to raise... To make eggs.
• 1:47:27
  I would say don't do it. No, don't do it. You're you're looking at partnership here. It's not called that, but once you enter into an arrangement with another fella for profit or gain, whatever the percentage is, and you've
• 1:47:40
  you've contributed that way, you're in a partnership, he can bind you by contract respecting the partnership and you can bind him and you don't trust him that much, you shouldn't. If you do, you're an idiot even if he's your best friend. We don't trust men in America, we trust God. That means
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  the
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  opposite of that is, by the way, you don't trust men. Don't even trust yourself, Paul the apostle says. We trust our savior.
• 1:48:03
  But if he comes to you and says that, well then I'd say he'd say, but I wanna help him. What do I do? I'd say, well here's a couple ideas.
• 1:48:10
  Of course, you
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  could establish a trust arrangement
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  where you receive
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  a
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  profit because you hold a certificate
• 1:48:19
  a certificate of beneficial interest. You could establish what we have called historically in America the Massachusetts Business Trust because that's the first place we see it came through the courts. But that's been all over the all over the country and especially in mining states where there's oil and gas and minerals,
• 1:48:35
  that's become a big thing through the years. That's one way you can do it, that's one option. The other option you can have is you can say to him, I'll give you the $100 you need
• 1:48:45
  to start your chicken ranch or whatever it is and what
• 1:48:49
  I want is a $100 back
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  plus
• 1:48:53
  plus
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  x
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  amount of money
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  if if if you make a profit. That's not usury because you're getting some profit back. But if you enter into an ongoing relationship with him, you're still a partner and he has the ability to bind you in contract and you have the ability to bind him. You say, well, what about corporations and LLPs and LLCs?
• 1:49:16
  Well, you could do that and get protection that way if you're willing to incorporate.
• 1:49:21
  I have a personal
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  resistance against that for a lot of reasons. It's not unlawful in America, I have friends that do it but I say the two options you have are a contract where you share in the game
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  at a one lump sum or
• 1:49:37
  you enter into a business trust relationship.
• 1:49:40
  In other words, common law trust
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  to receive benefits where you don't have the ability to bind the other man in contract.
• 1:49:50
  Unknown: Go ahead. I'll just say partnerships
• 1:49:52
  rarely work.
• 1:49:55
  Unknown: No they don't don't work absolutely
• 1:49:57
  Unknown: not. They're dangerous very dangerous. That gets you satisfied there Mr. Douglas?
• 1:50:04
  Unknown: Well yeah except
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  do you agree with me that the opposite of usury is
• 1:50:11
  Unknown: free giving? I can say
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  that.
• 1:50:14
  Unknown: Yeah me too and I can understand that that's one expression of the opposite, yes. But I still just fundamentally say, no no usury at all is the opposite but I of course I agree with you. And free giving, if somebody needs help, you've got the money to give it and you you can afford to lose it, give it. Of course, we can give. We can give to causes, we can give to ministries, we can even give to our friends, neighbors, and relatives if they need help and give freely, the Bible says, if you can. Not everybody can do that. If you can't...
• 1:50:45
  If giving would prevent you from filling your responsibilities
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  to the ones that God has given you, you shouldn't give.
• 1:50:52
  He's given you responsibilities,
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  you gotta fill those first. Go ahead.
• 1:50:59
  Unknown: Satisfaction out of doing that just giving people, you know, whenever I see street musicians.
• 1:51:04
  Wow. You know, the travels
• 1:51:06
  down here and stuff.
• 1:51:08
  I always try and slip, you know, peso or 2 or 10 into their into their instrument case. Wow.
• 1:51:15
  And help people along the way. It makes me feel good, you know?
• 1:51:19
  Unknown: I was more blessed to give than receive, fundamental
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  saying of our English speaking work. Somebody's
• 1:51:26
  Unknown: got a conversation. Listen, we got about about seven or eight minutes left here. Is there anything that somebody wanted to bring out that was sticking in the back of your mind as important unless get it covered before we have to whistle ourselves out of here?
• 1:51:43
  Unknown: On that on that thought just now, Roger Yes.
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  When a person is down and depressed... I learned this from a motivational speaker long ago.
• 1:51:53
  And he said, when you get down depressed,
• 1:51:56
  do something for someone else, give of yourself.
• 1:51:59
  And what happens is it raises your serotonin level. It raises that hormone.
• 1:52:05
  And it's that natural good feeling.
• 1:52:07
  You walk away. It's like, man, that just...
• 1:52:10
  I feel so much better. And that's what's happening. It's a... It's actually a chemical thing going on too. Isn't that interesting? Raising up that serotonin.
• 1:52:18
  Unknown: Built into it. And add Built into Go it as ahead, Brent. That's cool, ain't it? Yes. Yes. That that is good. To add to that even another principle that
• 1:52:27
  Jesus Christ
• 1:52:29
  tells us that you cannot
• 1:52:32
  keep
• 1:52:33
  what you don't give away. Yep. Now you say that's not logical. Well, the world doesn't operate on logic. The world operates on law.
• 1:52:41
  It is what it is. It's the way things are, they're not going to change. And if you're not willing to give up your life, said Jesus Christ,
• 1:52:48
  you can't keep it. I won't let you keep it. And that being true of something that is that
• 1:52:56
  monumentous and important,
• 1:52:58
  it is true with all lesser things, property. Of course, life is a property too. It's if you have rights in your property and property in your rights and your rights are property but if you're not willing to give them up,
• 1:53:10
  you won't keep them. And the more you give away,
• 1:53:13
  the more you give away God promises,
• 1:53:16
  the more you get. Now, you're giving away
• 1:53:18
  because God you think is some kind of machine that operates when I empty my coffers, he fills them up again because that's the way the machine is set. You're not... That that's that's nobody's talking about. God is not a genie. You don't rub a lamp and get what you want. No, this is a matter...
• 1:53:34
  Oh, the whole charismatic world seemed to teach that. The whole the whole media
• 1:53:40
  Christianity world seems to understand it that way. You say, well, don't all believe that. Well, I don't know what they believe. I just know that's what comes across clearly. Name it, claim it, frame it. Say this, do that, and God, he's bound to give it to you. Whatsoever we bind on earth is bound in heaven. Let's just get together and agree that you do need a new Cadillac, and you do want a new camera, and you do need a new house that has 14 bedrooms. You think... Of course, it's it's laughable,
• 1:54:04
  but I've seen people do that. And I know people that continue to
• 1:54:09
  do that. I've tried to explain to them my clear understanding. I think it's a clear understanding. I call it my studied understanding
• 1:54:16
  of what the bible says on that subject. And it says a lot by the way about that evil. About that particular evil, it says a lot. It says it specifically.
• 1:54:26
  God is not a genie. God is not a machine.
• 1:54:30
  Genies, false gods, you can control. You know, they say, bring this sacrifice and he's bound to do. No, you don't bind God.
• 1:54:38
  God binds himself. He does it by his promises. He chooses himself to do that. You don't do that. And if he says, if you ask for wisdom, I'll give it to you. He has bound himself by his own choice and he said that. So I asked for wisdom.
• 1:54:53
  God said to Solomon, he said, I'm gonna give you not only wisdom,
• 1:54:57
  I'm gonna give you riches.
• 1:54:59
  Why? Because you didn't ask me for them. That's why. You asked me for wisdom. And because you thought that was the most important thing, you're gonna get the whole caboodle.
• 1:55:10
  But if you go into it again thinking, okay, here's what I do. I ask for wisdom then ask for riches, or ask for wisdom knowing that God is a machine and then he'll give me riches.
• 1:55:19
  That's not it. That's not the way it works. So it's important to keep that in mind that our relationship with our creator is at his pleasure and by his remedy and he's provided the remedy. And if you don't accept it, if you reject it, you don't enter into the relationship
• 1:55:34
  and you're not part of the family, you're not born from above and you can't even see the kingdom,
• 1:55:39
  the arrangement of jurisdiction, the kingdom of God. Back to you Roger. I'm gonna say commonlawyer.com
• 1:55:46
  Unknown: is where you get more Brent
• 1:55:48
  and the reason I'm gonna abbreviate that today is because I got a software glitch thanks to Microsoft update
• 1:55:54
  and I have no volume control over this Whistler when he comes in. So, it's hard to talk over him and I hadn't been able to get with Paul and get it straightened out. Let me just say it's a really good show today and I think everybody really looks forward to these shows because of shows like this today and we got a lot of really good ground covered and for all the meat eaters out there, I hope you're full at this stage
• 1:56:19
  because if you're not, you gotta wait till next Friday,
• 1:56:23
  okay?
• 1:56:24
  So, Brent, as always, I appreciate you being with us and and and bringing everything you bring to the table and what I want to say is that's why this program is structured like it is. I don't ask any of you for money. I don't sell any of your ears to advertisers
• 1:56:39
  and you got no obligation
• 1:56:41
  except to turn on the dial if you're the person that is drawn to what we talk about here.
• 1:56:47
  Okay? If the fire of freedom
• 1:56:49
  has been reignited
• 1:56:50
  in your heart, I don't know anywhere else to go.
• 1:56:54
  Okay,
• 1:56:59
  Unknown: guys.
• 1:58:12
  Will
• 1:58:24
  swallow
• 1:58:26
  you.
• 1:58:35
  Unknown: Blasting the Voice of Freedom Worldwide, you're
• 1:58:41
  Unknown: bye, boys. Have fun storming the castle.