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Field Day and School Spirit · The Pork Roll, Egg, And Cheese Podcast

• Shamus: Hello, everybody, and welcome back to the Pork Roll Egg and Cheese Podcast. My name is Seamus. I'm Herbie. And as always, we are so glad that you're listening. This episode of the Pork Roll Egg and Cheese Podcast is brought to you by Scooper Heroes. Pet Waste Removal Service. Give Andrew and Barry a call for all your dog poop scooping needs. And you can reach them at 609-288-2568. And one thing I did realize I was doing, Herbie, I was giving out the wrong email address. ⁓ I was giving out scooperheroes.com. Yeah. But apparently that's another service in like Colorado. So ScooperHeroes New Jersey dot com is where you want to go if you need your dog poop scooped in Jersey. Herbie: We would definitely love to do that, but we wanna be, you know, gotta go to Jersey for it. Shamus: ⁓ no doubt. And we're also brought to you by Snipes Mobile Window Tinning and Paintless Dent Removal. Our last episode, he was on. Give our buddy Paul a call for all your auto tinning and dental removal needs. You can reach him at six ⁓ nine three four six six five five two and on his Facebook page at Snipes Mobile Window Tinning and PDR. And like I said before, if you mention the show, he said he's gonna give you ten percent off. Yeah. So forget your shit. If you're getting your shit tin it mention the P Rec. Yeah. And they'll they'll knock ten percent off with it. Herbie: Yeah, and thank you for the shirts, man. That was cool. Shamus: Yeah, Paul hooked us up with some shirts, man. He's a good dude. And like I said, if you need your windows tended, he's probably cheaper than anybody you're gonna have to sit in like one of those places you have to go to. Yeah, he's meticulous, man. So he's a good dude. All right, Herb. How's things going, brother? Herbie: Not bad, man. You know, just having a good I you know, good good weekend, work, and ⁓ as it was on the ⁓ exciting a new podcast. Shamus: Yeah, yeah. I was on there a couple like two or three weeks ago. How'd your episode go? ⁓ went Herbie: Yeah, we we covered Lucas, so we got a chance to talk about Yeah. It was like some people like what the hell is it? It's one of those like, you know, very not really well known but it was on HBO all the time when I was a kid. Shamus: Fucking movie from the eighties? Yeah. ⁓ my god Well there's a reason why it's not well no yeah. Herbie: But it had like, you it had Winona Ryder, it had Charlie Sheen, it had ⁓ the the redheaded chick from the Goonies in it. ⁓ yeah, he's in it. He's in it for like a hot second, but yeah, he's he's in it. Yeah, he's funny, man. But it was it was it was it was a nice time, man. But ⁓ you were on the show too, so Shamus: My man Jeremy Pivans in it. Ari Gold from Entourage. Yeah. Love that dude. Yeah, yeah, did the best of times. Nice. I was ⁓ a little bitter going in there 'cause of some of the scores they gave to some of the movies I like, like Cobra and Pretty in Pink. But ⁓ what did what did you rate, Lucas? Herbie: I think I rated it about like a sixty, but I asked first like what did they rated ⁓ Cobra so I can try to score as a joke. Score But you know, I think I gave it like a real sixty and like, you know, for the amount of star power that they had in it, you for a lot of people that just started, you know, with their careers, like when on the rider looks like a little kid. Yeah, and it's just like there's so many people in it. So it was just ⁓ I gave it like a Shamus: Run for the pork rollers. Yeah she does. Herbie: A star power of eighty, but you know, that's sixty, sixty sixty Shamus: Think I gave the best of times a seventy-five or eighty. ⁓ the best of times is that football movie with Robin Williams and Kurt Russell where they replay a game that was played thirteen years ago because Robin Williams dropped the ball. ⁓ the only reason I actually truly love that movie is because of Kurt Russell and his character in it. Yeah. first of all, he's quarterback, cool dude. They based his character off of Joe Namath. He wears number twelve. The team is green and white. Like he wore the white cleats and Namath was the first one to wear that. ⁓ just the epitome of cool. That and on top of it, the guy owned a body shop and the clothes that he wore and everything in that is the same shit my father wore. Like I was telling those I was telling those guys on the pod, I said, the minute he comes out of his office and he's got that cigarette in his hand, yeah, he's got the ski cap on with the flannel and the shitty work pants, the dickies. I was just like, I could smell that dude. Yeah. Because that's exactly what my father smelled like every day when he came home. Because my dad owned his own auto shop. Yeah. Motor body shop. Cigarettes, Bondo, and oil. That's what that guy smells like. So but ⁓ so I love that movie 'cause Kurt Russell is just such a I mean, probably one of the greatest movie quarterbacks of all time. Yeah. In that movie, like Hollywood wise. So Herbie: No go gel? Do you think that's more like a like a an obscure movie too, or do you think like maybe as as we're s talking about it? Shamus: Like you said, it was another one of those movies that just ran on HBO all the time when we were kids. And it's got Curse Russell and Robin Williams. So it does have star power. Yeah. And a lot of people know what that movie is. Yeah. ⁓ it's like I said, I just love football movies anyway, so but Kurt Russell's the man in that movie. Herbie: ⁓ yeah, plus they played football, so like they were getting hitted like normal. It was pretty cool. I was like, God damn. Shamus: Well, Corey Hain was getting that movie because that I mean he drops the ball, but at the end of the movie they still give him a varsity jacket. I was just like, What the f Herbie: Frickin' Puggy hates. I mean he he literally was like, you know, three foot tall and just like getting it was almost like in the water boy when ⁓ they were like ⁓ trying to find like the other water boys to try to be like they throw that other water boy out there and he got murdered. Yes. ⁓ It really reminds me of that 'cause they even did like the slow mo of him just like being like battered around and his glasses are flying out and it's just like it just looks it just looks painful. Shamus: Absolutely, yeah. They better not have given that a better grade than Cobra. ⁓ Herbie: It should be coming out so yeah, right. Well, you know, speaking of sports and stuff like that, it kinda reminds me of like sports Shamus: I was gonna say, did you ⁓ did you play any sports in school or did you just do the field day thing? Herbie: Well yeah, well f field day with that that's like a whole nother topic. But I did play sports ⁓ in high school. I did ⁓ wrestling and I did soccer, but you know, especially thinking about now like towards the end of the summer and schools get ready to close out, there was always a thing that we had called field day. Shamus: ⁓ I know all about it. Yeah. I'm the SRO at the school, so they're giving they're gearing up for their big field day this year. Herbie: Yeah, man. So that's when everyone's all splitting up into two teams and just you know, just doing like a little school Olympic events. And I think the first time I got exposed to that was ⁓ when I went to Klockner and they had field day. Shamus: Yeah. Herbie: It was like, you know, just like a bunch of running exercise. And it'd be like you get like ribbons and you just yeah, like you know you got split up in teams and it was always like, you know, towards the end of the summer so it was hot and everyone's outside like all day. And there's no way I could do any of those like, you know, events right now. Shamus: ⁓ that's what that's what they're doing right now. They're asking, you know, parents and teachers. I even bought 'cause I went to ⁓ BJ's the other day and got like five cases of water 'cause they're like four bucks. Yeah. So that was my donation. Like there there's like cases of water stacked in like one of our supply closets right now because well actually this year it's not as bad. Last year it was pretty bad at the other school 'cause I was up in Hamilton. Yeah. And we're now that I I worked at Crockett. And they did it. And there there had to be at least four or five hundred cases of water there for him 'cause I mean it was hot that day. So but yeah, that's what they're gearing up for, man. Yeah. I can't remember. I don't think we had it. I went to ⁓ Catholic school up till sixth grade. Yeah. And then when I moved over to public school, seventh and eighth grade was considered middle school. Yeah. And they didn't have it. And then like high school I just played sports. We did have ⁓ other shit, but we'll get to that down the road, ⁓ this episode. But ⁓ What kind of stuff did they do for f I know they did like ⁓ like the four hundred, the hundred yard dash. Did they do anything like ⁓ Herbie: They did the tug of war, which was cool. So they would have like, you know, the whole like practically like the whole school just tug of war in each other. So that was cool. they had like little events like, you know, like the wiffle ball bat thing, the, you know, kickball. It was just like a b and it was like it was everything was set up like stations. So it like two big teams and then it was just like stations all over the place. So you just keep on going. And then w you know, you would sit off to the side like and try to find like a tree with some shade because you're literally outside, you know, to in the middle of summer. And it just was like, you know, early eighties. So that we didn't really have like all these little cute little mini fans and All these other like electrolyte drinks. This is actually when Gatorade first came out and it was just like the green can with the little orange lightning on it. Yep. No other flavors. You know, everyone's like, you know, the everyone drinks like Gatorade now, even when they're not thirsty. They're like, I'm not drinking water. I'm gonna drink Gatorade. Shamus: With the pole tab, like it was a papst. ⁓ yeah, Everybody gets Herbie: Yeah, you earned your goddamn ⁓ ribbon. Shamus: You'd walk by and if you'd lost an event like your teacher'd be like, You s Herbie: Yeah. ⁓ Shamus: Should've bought my daughter out of here to compete. You Herbie: Suck Can't believe my kids coming to this school next year. Shamus: Well you can't play sports and your grades suck. World needs ditch stickers too. Yeah. Herbie: Yeah. Yeah, we had it was they had the ribbons and everything, but there were normally they would give it to you afterwards. And you know, I have like the little pin and stuff on the back so you could pin them on your shirts. And ⁓ I think it was like a like I think it was like red, white, and b I think it was red, white, and blue day. That's what it was. 'Cause our our school was actually like a decent size, so it was actually able to have three separate teams. I missed that school. That's that school's always cool. Shamus: ⁓ yeah, Clockner's pretty big. Yeah. Herbie: But ⁓ yeah, and say like after you win an event, sometimes you just like pin it to your shirt and you're like running and doing like all the all the little pins all like little flitting around like little streamers. Almost like when you're on your little tricycle with the little streamers and stuff all flowing and stuff. Shamus: Yeah. It was definitely that. I I I don't remember doing anything like that. ⁓ when I got to high school, we had this thing called Spirit Week. Yeah. ⁓ and it was a week long thing where they divided up the school against classes, freshmen, I think even the seventh and eighth grade took place. Yeah. ⁓ and I didn't really get involved in that too much because I played in high school sports. ⁓ But ⁓ you know, it was for that whole week, man, it was just crazy. Like the school was on like a different level. It's like, man, look at this ⁓ they was you had to decorate the hallways. Yeah. ⁓ and most of the the girls did all that stuff. So like you walk down a hall like on Monday morning of Spirit Week, you're like, Is this the right hallway? ⁓ and then was ⁓ other events during the week and then you had ⁓ Spirit King. Yeah. I think was like four or five seniors would like do stuff to ⁓ Herbie: Yeah. Shamus: you know, had to vote for Spear King and then they would do the thing on Friday was like a big, big assembly where like all the events took place Our buddy Heyman won the tricycle race because he was the smallest dude in the school. ⁓ Bobby. Bob. ⁓ And were so pissed off because they were like little kid tricycles, like the red ones with the white rims. Yeah. And like everybody's got their knees up over their elbows and and Bobby just sat on that thing like he was born to ride that. ⁓ Herbie: Good job. Shamus: And when that like he like they were like, go. And he was like, like gone. They were so bad. They're like, that dude looks like he's in third grade. Is he really a freshman? Herbie: He kind of looks like almost like in Revenge of the Nerds when they did the ⁓ and it's like Jen the Bobby is a little Asian guy like ho te-teo haito atokine. Shamus: ⁓ my god, that was hysterical. But yeah, the whole school would go bananas and then there was ⁓ a dance that Friday night. And they elected the Spirit King Herbie: Was almost like was it like towards the end of the summer? So that's why it was like or it was like maybe like almost like May Day. Shamus: It was probably right about now, I think it was. I forget because we had another thing and we'll get to this further down the road too in this episode. There was a thing called sports night. I can't remember I know that was in the wintertime because it was always butt ass cold out ⁓ when they did it. So I'm thinking Spirit Week was like more towards this time of year. Yeah, but I mean I just remember the school being like just so crazy. ⁓ yeah. Herbie: It was like towards the end of like for me I remember it was like field day and ⁓ when I went to Southampton it was May Day. So it was almost almost like a May Day type of ⁓ formal type thing and they also had a dinner dance. So it was almost like a like a mini prom type deal. And ⁓ they also had like towards the you know, towards the May Day thing was like, you know, the like I said, the dance and other events and You know, b it's getting you know, school's getting ready to close, so everyone's it's just like super excited to get out, you know. Yeah. So that's pretty much how that went with everybody. Shamus: Yeah. ⁓ I do I I do like sports night was was back in my day. I'll explain that statement in a minute because we also had this thing called sports night and I believe it was might have been around February or March. It was a tradition at Riverside where like up until like the seventies or something like that, they didn't have sports for the females at all. Everything was just boy sports. And this is Herbie: ⁓ Shamus: Back when you couldn't like, ⁓ I'm a girl, I want to play basketball. Cause back in those days, they're just like, We don't give a shit. So they developed this thing called Sports Knife for the females where they would take if you were a freshman female coming in, if your sister was on the maroon team and she was older than you were, your mom was on the maroon team, most of the time you were on the maroon team. Our school covers were maroon and white, so they would divide up the freshman class, maroon team or white team. ⁓ Then they would do almost like the Spirit King thing or whatever. They would do like all these events. They'd split and I'll tell you what, man, it was it was almost like civil war, like the Avenger Civil War, dude. Like friends were, you know, loyalties were divided. Like it was crazy, man. Exactly. It was out of control. Like some of these girls really got into it, dude. And I was just like, wow. And like when you're dating one of ⁓ at the time. Herbie: Yeah. Shamus: If bro, if you were caught caught talking to a chick in a maroon shirt and you were dating a girl on the white team, ⁓ man. ⁓ It was bad. You to watch where you stay. It didn't matter who you were during those weeks. It was it was bad. ⁓ Herbie: if she was like really hot and you're like, ⁓ God, please don't talk to me. I'm gonna get in trouble. Shamus: was like I always call her my high school sweetheart, but we kind of dated on and off throughout high school. Yeah. ⁓ she was on the white team and just happened to be talking to her friend at the time who was wearing a right maroon shirt. And we were just like, Hey, what's going on? You know, da da da she was dating a buddy of mine and I got the What are you doing? And I was like Herbie: You can't talk the h Shamus: And I was just like 'cause then they were, ⁓ my God, she's a she's like the semi or the assistant captain or something like that. So maybe Seamus knows something and he's selling it to the maroon team and you're just like, Are you serious? Like I don't give a shit about any of this. ⁓ ⁓ it used to get that intense, man. And ⁓ it was it was good for the school because Even like you would have to break away from your friends, but you also had to like you made new friends. Like so like even like the the dorks, the jocks, like they all had to get together and figure it out and win as a team. Yeah, so like all the girls on the white team got together that week or you know, leading up to it. ⁓ they would do all kinds of events. ⁓ I think I went to one and I was just kinda like, yeah. But ⁓ and then when they announced the winner Like on Sunday or Saturday night, they like, you know, Team White or Team Maroon. Like people cry. Like parents were in the stands cause they were on the Maroon White and they were crying. And then their daughter, their older daughters who were in college, would come home and they would cry And I would just got like crazy. And then all the fighting that happened, they would all come into the middle and they would all hug each other. I'm like, man, there's way too much session I gotta go, man. ⁓ Herbie: Yeah. Jesus. Jesus Christ. Shamus: Like drama. I was like, I hope somebody bought a life preserver. They like, why? I was like, 'Cause we're floating out of here on the tears that he's brought. ⁓ Herbie: Jesus Christ, it's like Montague versus Capulet. Shamus: Yeah, that's exactly what it was the Hatfields and McCoy's for like a month, man. And then we had a group of dudes. I don't know who these guys were. ⁓ They came up like the guys came up with Team Green. Yeah. And I was just why? Yeah. ⁓ Are we just trying to get attention? Like, I do any of you guys have a chick either? ⁓ Herbie: Yeah. Exactly. I was getting ready to say that to like no chicks whatsoever. Shamus: ⁓ I was just kinda like, man, he's But the one thing cool about Sports Night ⁓ is it's almost like the Canoe Carnival and Medford Lakes, like the whole town shuts Yeah, it's crazy. Riverside used to be like a college campus that weekend. there were so many sports night parties, like different people throwing parties and stuff And it was amazing. Now, the reason why I say back in my day. Herbie: Yeah that's Shamus: Is I graduated in ninety six, left for the military. ⁓ I don't think I've been back there once or twice to watch one of my nephew's football games. But anyway, when he was a freshman in school, one of the she was a senior when I was a junior. She was a teacher at school, a really good friend of mine. So my nephew had her freshman year. ⁓ So sports night was coming and I was like, yo. Where are the sports night parties at this weekend? You all right, bro, you need condoms, you need some money, what's up? And he was like, What are you talking about? And I was like, sports night parties, like you know And he was like, I don't I don't know what you're talking about. So instantly in my mind I'm like, A, either he's a dork Herbie: ⁓ yeah, he's out of the loop. Shamus: Or B, something happened. So I said, listen, when you go to school today, because I just happened to be over there for something in the morning. I said, ⁓ when you go to school, You still have ⁓ I'm not gonna put her last name out there, I said, You still have her as a teacher? was like, Yeah. I said, Go ask her about sports night parties. So he was like, All right. It's like two or three days later, I'm at my mom's house, like on a Saturday, he comes downstairs. got there early to cut the grass or something. He comes down the steps and he was just like, Can I talk to you for a minute? I was like, Yeah. What's up? I walked every room. He's like, Teach me. And I was like, what? He was like, I talked to And I was like, okay. And he was just like, Bro, did you do anything in school besides party, drinking I was just like he ⁓ like, dude, she told me some shit. Yeah. I was like, well, I kind of hoping she wouldn't have told you that but Herbie: Yeah. Shamus: I said, but what happened with Sports Night? She said somebody like that first year they put cameras and phones. ⁓ my everybody was like, Hey, we're at the Sports Night party and putting it on their MySpace at the time or whatever it was and like people are like, You guys condone this, the parents are condoning this and th and they totally fucked. Herbie: Good job, Doofasis. Jesus Christ. Why why people just incriminate themselves. There's a code back in the day, man. I mean, you would just like whoever interrogated you was and there was pain involved in interrogations, people. Just, you know, don't don't forget that. There was pain. But you didn't crack. Shamus: I worked it's like I said in law enforcement. They call it, you know, making the block hot or bringing heat. Herbie: Jesus Christ. Shamus: Like you don't you you you don't put all your your business out there. You don't like hey this is what we're doing and you're like 'cause now everybody's looking at you and somebody's gonna go, we need to shut this shit Herbie: Yeah dude they're more in love with clout now. ⁓ you guys are a bunch of dorks. I swear to god. Shamus: Sports night parties were but ⁓ yeah man sports night we had Spirit Week and it's like I said, I think they had field day, but I think I missed it because like I said, I was in Catholic school. Yeah. One through six. So I think Riverside Elementary had it. I just never I guess kind of missed it. Herbie: Yeah, when I when I moved, it was it was like in the middle of sixth grade. So I remember a field day at Clockner. And then when I came down to South Jersey, Southampton, it was ⁓ Field Day. And you know, they had the ribbons and stuff too. But like the the school was smaller, but it was just like it was it was just like everybody was involved and it was it was kinda cool because ⁓ it was of course during the end so everyone's all hyped up to like you know, it's like two weeks of school left. Shamus: Hell yeah. Herbie: They were just like all piped up. The energy was all there and like, you the teachers are already checked out already. So like whatever. The report cards are done. Everyone knows what's graduation and all that stuff. And they would ⁓ the one spot what they would do is like the last like three or four days of school They would just have two separate wings. So it was like fifth, fifth, and sixth grade in the one wing and then seventh and eighth in the other. But they would lock it down, but you can just roam between the classes like in your own wing. So like the teachers were still there. There was still order, you know. Yeah. But it was just like, you know, you can just hang out, you can just like Yeah, basically what that was. But the my one teacher, he he did an awesome thing where he had the desks and then he put them down on the ground. Shamus: Go around and get your book signed, shit like that. Herbie: And he cleared everything out of the classroom and he made like this mini hockey rink. And we used the racers as like the puck. And he had like the like the little almost like the the Jim Field hockey type of little, you know, hockey sticks. It wasn't like you know the real hockey sticks, but you know, like the half. ⁓ yeah, dude. It was great. And you know, the same thing with like, you know, when they had like the the the big thing with the parachutes and ⁓ they also play we used to play ⁓ crab soccer. That's actually how I met one of my Shamus: It was like my first hockey stick. Smokes, dude. I haven't heard that in from ⁓ my god. Herbie: ⁓ yeah, dude. Yeah, I learned about crab soccer when I came over here in South Jersey. So I was like, ⁓ man, it was cool. I mean, that's actually how I met my first ⁓ longtime best friend Connie. She's like a sister of me. I've and from elementary school all the way through high school, she always sat behind me. So she's she's, you know, like sister and I still keep in contact with her. N known her husband, you know, went to high school with him too. He was a great guy. They unfortunately they're not together anymore, but she's got her own life and you know, the kids, you know, ⁓ cool with the kids. We'll meet up to you know, do a buffet and just nice to be actually you know, but f how how our friendship actually met was ⁓ I her from playing crab crab soccer. I ⁓ was like who ⁓ Shamus: Yeah. Herbie: And then we became best of friends. Shamus: Rap soccer, wow. Herbie: He also had like those events too where you had like those little, like the little carts, almost like little dolly trucks. And they would have that and just like, you know, just run around like playing like almost like soccer with that too. And then of course there was like that big parachute thing where it's like, you know, 50,000 people just like pulling off this big parachute and then like pulling the air down. And everyone's like, you know, you put your head in in there and like your body's out, and just it's like this big, you know, circus tent balloon. And everyone, ⁓ it was great. Shamus: Yeah, I don't I don't think we ever did any of that. Herbie: There was another one that I used to love playing. It was in Klochner. It was called War. So pretty much it was in the gymnasium and you know, the middle of the the thing was like no man's land and you had like these like grey fluffy fur ball type things to throw. And it was everyone had them. So what you had to do was if you got hit, you laid there like you were dead. And then you actually had like a couple of people that were like so-called medics. So if they go out there and grab you and then they pull you back to the safety zone, you can actually respawn back in there and get into the game again. ⁓ I used to love that. Yeah, it was cool, man. Shamus: That's like a really weird twist on dodgeball. Herbie: Yeah, ⁓ it was great. It was great. Well, we did play dodgeball too. It was just ⁓ I love that stuff. Shamus: That was another thing about gym class when I went to school, especially in high school, because towards the end of the back like in the eighties, you had a gym teacher who was just like, you know, nutrition and ⁓ like there was in the wonder years. Like ⁓ their gym teacher would be like today just what yeah, and just like, you know, nutrition is everything and you gotta do but like when I got to high school, it was just kinda like, all right, you guys are here, here's a couple basketballs, or here's some dodgeballs, we'll be in the office. Herbie: Back in the seventies. Shamus: I would like, ⁓ yeah, dude, we used to murder each other. Like the girls would the girls had their own separate side of the gym. We had like one of them curtains that came down. Yeah. And they would always do like volleyball or leading up to sports night. ⁓ Miss Mrs. K, I think her name was, ⁓ was like the dance choreographer for both teams. So she would they would just do dance stuff and on the other side, dude, it was straight murder ball. Herbie: Yeah. Shamus: It was whether it was basketball, whether it was dodgeball, and if we went outside on nice days and it was football, there was nobody saying like, hey, this two hand touch nah. It was straight murder. Herbie: Yeah, do you Shamus: That and ⁓ they had like this rag ball kind of deal. Yeah. And they would give us like the ⁓ metal bats and we'd go out there and play. And I don't know what that ball was made of, but if you get a hold of it, dude, you could it was like almost like a baseball, but it was made of like rags, like tied up rags. Yes, but it was so tight, dude. Herbie: Yeah, that's kinda what we use for war, cause like you can actually heave that sucker and then it as soon as you hit ya, it wouldn't like Yeah. We gotta get those things. ⁓ we gotta f yeah. eBay Shamus: Yeah, it never really hurts. Yeah, man. Yeah, but most of the time it's like w especially when you're a junior and senior, most of the time I just cut Jim Class anyway. Like once they took attendance and they're like, All right, here's some basketballs, we just bounce anyway. Herbie: I used to love gym class. They have like that I think like the kids now, they're not really big into gym class and they find some bullshit reasons to Shamus: Because everybody wants to play Call of Duty and ⁓ it. Like nobody wants to go outside and do anything. Dude, I'll tell you what, the other day it was super nice out, ⁓ we go outside for recess, and two or three kids are just like, is there any way we can just take because they have Minecraft in the one classroom ⁓ ⁓ whatever reason? And they were just like, We'd we'd rather go in. ⁓ it's not raining, we'd rather go in and play Minecraft. I'm like, Are you out your mind? But I mean, that's just how kids are built nowadays. ⁓ a kid, I couldn't wait to get outside. Herbie: ⁓ I know, man. I mean, that was like sometimes with like survival of the fish, you're actually eating dandelions and what like those little like little spring onions. Used to pull them things out of the ground and eat them. You know, buttercups, honey suckles. That was the diet, dude. Honey suckles, buttercups. If you found like some like ⁓ mulberry somewhere, you like there was a like the crab apple eating dare. If there's some place had a crab apple and freaking ⁓ dandelions, like raw like regular dandelions. Shamus: Please. Herbie: Yeah, dude, I swear to God. I remember that. Yeah. Just sitting there. Yeah. In the middle of the goddamn field, just like pulling out these little onion bulbs and just like just crunching. Yeah. You know, then that's when you had to go home to water. No, yeah. If you got hose water, it's just like, ⁓ make sure you let that run for a little bit. Shamus: Mm. Well that was another thing like when they gear up for field day these things, I was just like, I never remember they were just like you'd be hot there in a dead ass sun doing something in school and they were just I usually like, can I go get a drink? And they're No, we're going in in twenty minutes, you'll be fine. Yeah. We never had like all these bottles of water just laying around stuff. We just dealt with it. Herbie: Yeah. Matter of fact, back in the day water we didn't even want water back then. It was just like either hose water or if we were thirsty, like soda. And then they started making the juice boxes. Shamus: I don't remember drinking so much and that's another thing in in these schools. ⁓ everybody's the COVID thing kicked that off. Everybody's got to bring a water bottle. Yeah. But now that we're six years past it, I'm like, do we really need these kids to have water bottles? 'Cause you'd be surprised when kids try to sneak into school on a water bottle I never in my like I sit there and look sometimes I think back on life, like my school years and I was like, I don't remember ever needing a sixteen ounce jug of water. Like I don't ever remember like maybe once or twice during the day, hey, can I go get something to drink? Or I would just go, Hey, can I to the bathroom? And then after I, you know, went to the bathroom I'd come back and grab some water on the way back and that was it, like just a couple sips, like ⁓ Herbie: Drink for the water fountain too, man. Remember? Like there was always like that one water fountain that literally the water would barely trickle out of it. So you'd actually have to just like just put your lips on the damn thing 'cause you were that thirsty. Shamus: Just from the water fountain. And then they'd wait until like the last this time of the year to fix it. And you gotta lean in real close and you hit it. It's like whoop right up your nose. Herbie: Get your nasal cavity cleaned out. Shamus: Yeah, but I don't never remember drinking that much water at school. These kids nowadays are Herbie: Yeah, it's it's almost like you pretty you you pretty much ate lunch, that was it, you went home and you burned through all that stuff and you just had to be home just for dinner. Shamus: Yeah, most of the time at lunch they give you milk. And that's why teachers nowadays, I love teachers, don't get me wrong. And if you're listening to this, I re I have the utmost respect for what you people do because I couldn't do your I was telling the principal this the other day on Friday because we had a parent and I don't want to get into it, but total meathead. But ⁓ I was like, dude, I couldn't do what you do. I couldn't do with the assistant principal does here, the superintendent, the other president or any DC. I couldn't deal with parents nowadays. Herbie: Yeah. Yeah. You need to be an MMA fighter really, 'cause it's just Shamus: But some of them are this like there's there's supposed to be like educated people. And like some kids sitting there with like a gallon of water in class, just slugging it all day. And like at the end of the day, I'm walking by a classroom, I hear a teacher go, I don't understand why you out of the bathroom so much. What is the problem? And like I looked in and could see like it was like a gallon of water with like a little bit left. I'm like, what did you expect? The kids been drinking water all day. So and I was like, negate the problem if you just get rid of the water bottle. So Herbie: Yeah, they should. Especially now, some of these water bottles, Jesus Christ, they're about the size of like a Ghostbusters like power pack, man. They're huge. I see people at the hospital with these ones that it almost looks like, you know, like the the the freaking the water the water cooler jug. Except with a handle on it. Shamus: Listen, some of the ones that they carry and they drop sound like propane tanks hitting the floor. ⁓ then another thing that cracks me up is and it'll happen on field day, is when they go out to recess yeah, I'll be like, ⁓ as they're walking, 'cause I have to block the road ⁓ because behind school there's They call it the service driveway. Yeah. I have to make sure and there's usually cars there. So I'm I stand in the road, you know, just tell them to come across and block traffic. Herbie: Yeah. Shamus: And as every kid is walking by me, said, I'm always like, hey, make sure you got all your sh like ⁓ lunch bags, bags, don't forget anything. And as soon as that last kid clears the door, I look over. It looks like a yard sale. There's clothes, water bottles, everything all over the place. So I gather them up and I take them. There's this ⁓ section in back of the school. ⁓ It looks the children's department at like Sears or Walmart or something. There is so many clothes there. There I Herbie, I shit you not. There's got to be between sweatshirts. The Yeti bottle like the water bottles and stuff, ⁓ headphones, yeah, earbuds. You would dude, there's gotta be like ten thousand dollars worth of stuff there. Herbie: Early I think it's hilarious that the kids are wearing like the old headphones that we wear. Yeah. You know what I mean? Nope. Like geez, they're bringing Shamus: Football jerseys, jerse Eagles jerseys. I'm we're talking like the the Giants jerseys. Like I'm like, dude, if my mom if I ever forgot any like under armor jackets, ⁓ like the the puffy like I'm like, man. Herbie: Dude, we basically we didn't have that many like bare essentials. I mean, these kids have like nineteen different items. Take Shamus: Like I tell them for them. I tell ⁓ all the time, because we have to collect the balls at the end. Yeah. I don't say anything anymore. If you leave that ball at the basketball court, when you come out tomorrow, you ain't getting it. Yeah. So the kids like, hey, security guard, can you get us basketball? I'm I don't know what you're talking about. Y'all bring it in yesterday? They're no. And I was somebody must have took that shit. So like with like five, ten minutes left to recess, I'll go grab it. I come back, I throw it out. I'm like, leave it out here again, You die. And they don't forget it now. ⁓ Herbie: There you go. Shamus: So but if they don't pay for it like these kids don't have any concept of responsibility or that kind of thing. So on field day there's gonna be ⁓ it's like I it's gonna look like a yard sale out there. ⁓ Another thing they don't do, and I kind of think so it's like I said, society's so weak. Like the one field like the field that was up at last year, there was a little bit of it going on with some of the teachers. But like here is no trash talk. Like like these teachers like, we don't want to pick on anybody and you can't say that to him and bow 'cause these kids they'll be balling. They'll be playing basketball. Yeah. And I'm on the sideline just talking trash, bro. I'm like, hey man, when you guys are done here, he's like, I'll get what I'll Mr. Lou, his the gym teacher. I'm like, I'll get with Lou, man, we'll come down, teach y'all how to do this shit. Like I'll and these kids get so bad, It's great. ⁓ then I'm like, Okay, Mr. Shapes, you take a shot. And of course I'm ⁓ And they just look at you like like that go fuck yourself up that they can't say it. Yeah. But ⁓ I'll talk mad trash. But when the kids start talking trash to each other, just like playfully like we did those teachers go bananas, And I'm like, come on. Herbie: D do they really have that much faith that these kids are gonna go to like an escalation where they're gonna start throwing hands and stuff? Shamus: No, it's just the way society is. We just don't say that. It's not nice. I'm like, man, if you ever heard me on the and spe ice hockey football, I I was just when I was a kid dude, I would talk bad trash. Herbie: Especially if you're good, man. It's just Shamus: Well that was most of the time I wasn't. Like what the hell is If I was good, I wouldn't be sitting here. But But yeah, I used to and it was like a friendly banter because like most of the people I played ice hockey against I knew because or like even street hockey or whatever, because we all grew up together or like when you played other high school, like ice hockey was such a small group of people, like even if I played for this team, like on the all-star team, we all played together. So you knew everybody, but it was just kind of you know Herbie: I'm great as a heck down. Shamus: Friendly banter, but in a slightly Herbie: Yeah, you gotta talk some smack it like Jesus Christ. Shamus: Yeah, but nowadays they're just sounds like that kinda takes the fun out of field day Herbie: God, well you know what they actually I they don't do that on the field and they just save the all that smack talking on Minecraft and roadblocks ⁓ even like listen ⁓ they just yeah, they unleash. It's almost like they're all pent up and as soon as they get online, man, it's just like they will just eviscerate people. Shamus: You ain't lying. Listen, I've been in the military 20 years in law enforcement with some of the worst people in New Jersey. I I've heard some people say some shit, boy, but I'll tell you what, I've never. You're playing against some eight-year-old Nighthood in Madden, and you take one to the house. That kid cursed me up. He told me things about my mother I never knew. I said, Holy bo. Those kids on there are Herbie: Yep. It's true though. There should be an episode. Shamus: I'm here for it. I'm like, yeah, give it to me, son, let me hear it. And just and like hey, it's I what am I gonna do? Drive to Idaho and beat Tish Kids. Yeah. But I mean it's good to see that they do have that fire in them a little bit. ⁓ yeah. Not to the point where they pick up a PlayStation and fire it out their windows they lost. Yeah, they got But like, yo, you can talk that trash, bro, that's fine, but leave my mother out of this. Herbie: Yeah. That used to be the rule back in the day too, man. Unless it was like agreed. It was one-on-one. Your mom jokes. That's it. Shamus: ⁓ yeah, your mama jokes, but that's another thing. They it was in the last week or two that was going on something happened and they were like, We don't tell your mama jokes here. And I was like, What? All these teachers looked over at me and I was kind of like, Man shit, I ain't coming back next year then to hell. No mama jokes up here. Herbie: Yeah. I was like, that's how you learn creativity. ⁓ yeah yeah. Shamus: Exactly. But back in our day, all you had to do was say, Yo, mama and that was it. That was all it was fighting with me in the senior parking lot after school. Hell yeah. Herbie: Yeah. ⁓ yeah, you get a crowd around. And everyone would be there too. I always kinda was like that guy in high school. I always like caught the last split second of a fight. I was always so pissed off. Shamus: Well I would just get my ass beat twice. Somebody like your mom's a bitch. And I was like, motherfucker, parking lot after school. And he'd probably beat me up. Then I would go home and my mom like, What'd you get suspended for for fighting? I was like, he called you a bitch. She's like, Do you believe everything you hear? Am I a bitch? Do you believe that? Like, and I was kinda like, well. Herbie: Whole parking lot full of uppercuts for Lord Shamus: But when the kid was like, Your mom's a bitch. And she was like, Am I a bitch? And was like, You do have those moments. ⁓ Like right now. ⁓ Herbie: Yeah, she's actually trying to The small the smart assery was I feel like it was you were you were too smart as ⁓ for your own good, man. It's like she's trying to teach you to let go of all that bullshit and then, you know, you start still getting the uppercuts anyway. Shamus: Yeah. I'll tell what, she was a big she was a big supporter. I'll never forget this, I ran some dude. We were we were skating to the corner in ice hockey and she was sitting right in that first row in the corner. ⁓ didn't even know she was there. Like I you know, when you're playing, you you forget where people are sitting Dude, I blew him up. Broom running into the boards. Passed the puck up. I think I went up over the glass. He blew the whistle. So I looked down at him. And I was like, that's right, I'm here all week. I'm running for mariness, motherfucker. And you're my bitch. And like all of a sudden, on the glass, I looked over. My mom was like, with the thumbs up, like, yeah. And I was just Yeah, she was just she was all about me. Like she she never went, Seamus, you can't say that. She was like, yeah. Herbie: Good job boy. Yeah, a lot of like Shamus: You might want to calm down a little bit, but let ⁓ know, boy. Let ⁓ know. Herbie: Yeah, my mom would say, ⁓ papa, you shouldn't say that and I'm like Shamus: ⁓ man. I used to say some shit. Herbie: ⁓ yeah, yeah. Well you know me, I'm also a like super huge smart ass. I thrive on it. Shamus: Hell yeah. And if your mom was sitting in the crowd and I knew Herbie: ⁓ Placod. Shamus: I used to talk so ⁓ so fun. But they don't let you do that anymore, man. Herbie: Jesus. They're like, ⁓ you can do it online though. So that's where it probably like that whole Shamus: I don't know if it was Spirit Week. It might have been during the Spirit Week thing. We used to have ⁓ seniors versus staff. ⁓ like a no, it was a charity basketball game they to do. In my senior year, I was and I this is how bad I was at basketball. I went out my freshman year for basketball and the coach kept after like second or third game, coach was like, Hey Martini, come here. Herbie: ⁓ yeah, something you have a Shamus: I'm looking around like who is Martini? ⁓ He to me, he saw walking, he was like, Go and like they only put me in the end of the games. We sucked at basketball anyway. So ⁓ And was horrible at it back then. So at the end of the year, and it was just something I did to stay in shape in between seasons, between like baseball or football and like whatever. I didn't want to wrestle. So ⁓ I at the end of the year, he was like, Hey Martini, come here. So I walk into his office and he was like, ⁓ real quick question, are you coming back next year? And I was just like Probably not. And he was like, Thank God. It's and I was like, Really? And he was just like, Yeah. And I was just like, I thought you liked me. Gave me a nickname and everything. And he was like, You know when I call you Martini? And I was like, No. And he was like, 'Cause you play basketball like you drank eight of them before you came out here. He ⁓ like, It's like watching Dean Martin play basketball after he did his late night show. He was like, You stink. ⁓ Herbie: Actually speaking of that, I just stay away from basketball. I th I remember like I did like for high school. I was horrible at soccer. I wasn't great. And when I came to, you know, South Jersey, they even put me in the S T R A soccer league. And it like towards the late of the season. And the team I was on was like the the town ⁓ team and they were they were good. Shamus: He's like, I've seen you play other sports, stick with that and I was like Herbie: And I just was horrible. And it was like they only had like maybe four games left. And they were like whooping everyone's ass. So I got I got that participation trophy just by being on the field, not really knowing where to go and everything. So my cousin, he was really good in soccer. And when I got to high school, I I went to the same high school as he did. And of course I went out for soccer. Because he was like, when you get there, it's like, yeah, but go for some sports, you know, do some stuff to get active and have fun. So I did that. And ⁓ did soccer. And you know, my my cousin Jeff was like, you know, he was like captain of the team and he was badass and would score all these goals. So of course the coach was like super hyped up that, ⁓ this is this is his little cousin Herbie. And ⁓ dude. They were really disappointed in the very yeah, they were very disappointed quickly. But the funny thing was ⁓ the first day of practice, we were doing like all these sprinting runs and dribble runs and stuff and passing runs. And I remember it was like my freshman year, it was the very first day of practice. And they're freaking, ⁓ just like passing the ball, and all of a sudden, like the one of the seniors kicked the ball and I was and I I got hit right in the dick. And I went and I went down, I was like, ugh But the coach was like, Yeah, just walk it off. I was like, I can't Shamus: And then That's how it was back then, dude. It wasn't like, ⁓ my God, we need to send him to a counselor to talk about, you know, the trauma this might cause him. they were just like, go, yeah, rub some dirt on it. Let's go. Herbie: He was like walking off. I was like, I can't walk away. So when of course when I had my thing, it was like everyone thought it was funny because I literally was still like the same size of a hobbit in high school too. So like everyone else was normal human size. And there was this one guy, he was a senior when I was a a freshman. His name was Bob. And he looked like like an adult. And he was like he just he j he just looked like he looked like He-Man. He really did. He looked like He-Man. He was just like frickin'. It was like by the power of Gray Skull. It was just he had all these muscles and he was a nut bar. He was a complete nut bar. And I remember that there was a s there was a a drill where there was they put a ball out of like maybe like 10 or 15 yards out. And you had to run and like steal the ball. And it was like on two separate lines. So of course it's like freshman, like two foot, nothing tall. And I'm like standing there and I look over and it's and it's this dude, Bob. And Bob always has like this crazy look in his eyes. Like his eyes are like super huge, big bright blue eyes, blonde hair. I was like, Jesus Christ. And he's like, and I was like, ⁓ my God, I'm gonna die. And I was just like trying to run and sprint with this guy. And then come to find out, he was like, You wanna join the wrestling team? And I was like, ⁓ sure. Shamus: Perfect, Bob. Herbie: Like he was used to wrestle like what like 180 and when I got there was like one ⁓ three. He always used to wanna wrestle me. But I used to love wrestling and fighting anyway, so like I would be thrown around, I'd be thrown into the goddamn weight benches and all that shit. Cause he was just Shamus: ⁓ that's how learn quicker. You fight the bigger guy. Herbie: Yeah, no one else wanted to arrest him because he was just he was a maniac. God bless his heart and keep him still alive, but he was a frickin' maniac. And like my dumbass, I get all excited and shit too and just wanna basically jump on his neck and try to like wring him out. But no, no. Shamus: I made that mistake one time. I was we were at football practice and one of our bigger kids at the time, he's pretty good football player. We were doing these angle drills where one woman with the ball person comes over, tackles him, but you don't tackle him, you just ⁓ just to warm up. ⁓ ⁓ not gonna say his name, but he went running and hit one of our freshmen and just kinda like tapped him. I was like, God damn, dude, want to kiss him next time. Bullshit. You practice. I was like the fifth guy in line, so I wasn't b after that he never said a word. He went right back in line. So I figured he was in my line because once you're done you you switch lines just like the layup drill. Well, when I got the ball, I wasn't paying attention, dude. No, I heard a I just a at the last second it sounded like a horse. I just heard and like I looked and he came full speed, dude, and just lit me up. ⁓ And like ⁓ 'Cause I was one of the bigger kids on the team too, but he was, you know, a little bit bigger than me. But when you're not expecting it, you're just waiting for somebody to come over and just grab you and say, dude, he he put me on the sideline, I ⁓ land it and he stood over me and I was just like, Yeah, you got that, I was like, I'd get up and fuck you up, but I think I'm hurt. ⁓ Herbie: Really? I think I'm good here. Shamus: He's like, We good and I was like, Yeah, I guess Coach came over and he was just like, I learned you a good one, didn't it? I was like, Can you give me a minute? Yeah, give me like five minutes. I'll coach in a second. So sometimes, you know, talking that shit gets you a little banged up, but Herbie: Yeah, I'm still trying to breathe here. Kinda bleeding out of my kidney. Well, actually the probably the biggest the first time I saw stars as a kid, I didn't talk smack. It was basically re it was resex. Re recess. Resex. Recess. I was gonna say Yeah, wish. ⁓ With Chris Hansen on Dateline. But ⁓ like I was kinda like in the back of the class. Everyone ran out first. So Shamus: That's a whole other episode, I think. Herbie: Everyone started grabbing they was they would make like a a quick run to like grab like either like the basketball, football, dodgeball, because like it was almost like a rack with all the all the balls and sports stuff. So everyone would run and grab their their stuff. And ⁓ we used to play baseball in the back. This was at a this was actually at Clockner. So the girls were playing their little baseball game and the guys were like on the back side of the yard. So I'm running full sprint and the girls are actually kind of like on the almost like the asphalt part. And I'm running and the girls are playing baseball. And the girl, I like ran like not I ran behind her. When she swung the baseball bat to like make the hit, her backswing, I ran right into the bat. And I just saw, dude, I saw stars. And I was down on the ground and I swear to God, it was a wooden bat. I literally could taste wood in my mouth. I was like, what the f so everyone like runs over, they're like, ⁓ like, ⁓ my God, are you okay? And I was like, I don't know. And they're like, ⁓ boy. Gotta go to the nurse, ex the the school nurse. So of course my mom didn't live too far away from school. So when they called her, she comes, you know, she's she runs in, she's like, yeah, your son got hit. And this was like where they didn't really spare too much of the ⁓ you know the details of like just come in safely like your son got head to head with a bat. And she's like, ⁓ freaks out. And I'm in sitting in there and like I just had this huge knot on my head, dude. It it literally looked like a like a goose egg. It was huge. I was like, ⁓ and I just sat there and my mom freaked out. Shamus: Yeah, yeah. Herbie: thing of ice on my head. And it was like, of course, it took like days for that thing to go away. And it was just like and it literally was like on like the front part of my head. Shamus: Listen, I know, and if he's listening to this podcast, he's probably like, don't do it. I'm not gonna mention his name, but we had the same thing happen. We were at gym class and the same kid who murdered me on the sideline was at the plate. And when he came around, he swung. But he like did one of them Aaron Judge swings where he like really leaned. And when it came back around, it hit my buddy right in the top of his head. ⁓ and that dude Well like he just I mean, instantly knocked him out and he just fell forward. So now he's got another dot on his head because he Now we have no idea 'cause like everybody's looked to see where the ball went and it didn't clear the fence. So now there's a play at the plate. Yeah. We're like, ⁓ he mowed or somebody lay him. What the hell are you doing? Dude, back in those days it wasn't like, Hey, you stabilize his neck, call an ambulance They were like, You two, pick him up, take ⁓ to the nurse. Yeah. Herbie: Got his dick in the dirt. Yeah, basically that's what it was, man. Shamus: took him to the nurse and she was just like, ⁓ my goodness. It's like he had two and it was I mean, they look like goose eggs on his head. And his mom thankfully lived across the street and she just came right over, grabbed him, took him. ⁓ ended up having like multiple concussions, But yeah, I know exactly what you're talking about 'cause ⁓ that happened in our school. Same dude actually tore his ACL and you're not gonna believe it was playing chess ⁓ at the school. ⁓ He was he was on chess team. Herbie: What? Shamus: Jesus. He had his foot up on a ta like like a chair like this. He had his foot like laid like this and he went to ⁓ move and the chair that he was on broke and like ⁓ like hyperextended his leg and he tore his ACL. I'm like, how the hell? One year you got hit with a baseball bat, the next year you take your ACL playing chess Herbie: Yeah. Jesus. None. almost like ⁓ Craig from Friday's like, how the hell you get fired? Shamus: He walked up he walked up on us with this big ass air cast on his knee. I'm like, what the hell you do? He's like, I tore my ACL and now we and he played hockey. So it was just kinda like, Bro, we it's the offseason. Like, what the hell did you like that's the only sport he really played? He was like, I I did to play in chess. We were all like, What? And like everybody just like, ⁓ you both Herbie: Yeah, you would've heard about it. Was it like live chess? You know, like you where you see like the thing like a big Shamus: What are you playing? Full contact chess? What is going on? ⁓ Herbie: That's crazy. See, that's what like I had like an injury one time too. It was it was we were playing soccer and I went up to headbutt a ball with another kid and we collided and we just smacked heads. And I think like I got a big black eye and this was like seventh or eighth grade. And It was like next day was class pictures, dude. So in the yearbook, I got this little freaking shiner going on. I was like, ⁓ it was horrible. I was like, Jesus Christ, wrong, bad timing. Shamus: Mm. Yeah, I don't have any I mean, between ice hockey and football, I I I know I've been concussed a couple of times and like I said, back in those days, they hit you like when you got to the sign line, like, you all right? And you just had this look and somebody walked over with some smelling salt and hit you real quick and you're like and it would snap you too. And the coach is like, Bro, I need you for three more plays, and you're like, All right, man. So I mean, or there was times like I would just be like, You all right? I'm Yeah. And they always did that thing where they how many fingers am I holding up? And one of your buddies would just give you like a quick tap if they were holding you. And like two. Yeah. ⁓ that kind of thing. Herbie: I see two fingers out like total. Shamus: The listeners can't see it, but I'll show you. Like this finger right here, the way it's bent up, that thing was sticking straight this way. Jesus. So I walked to the sideline and I was like, ⁓ my God. And like the coach is like, What's the matter? And I showed it to him and he was like, and like he almost got queasy. That's how bad it went to, ⁓ my God. And the trainer was just like, Hold on a second. He was like, Come with So I walked to the side and he literally was like, It's not broke. And I'm What do you it's not? He was like, it's just dislocated. And as we're talking, he's like, look at me and he just grabs and quack and puts it back in. Dude, I've never felt pain like that before in my life. He taped it up and it was he was like, You're good to go. And I was like, All right, and went right back in nowadays they you can't do that no more, man. Herbie: No. No. That's cra ⁓ dude, that's crazy. Well I b I I've jammed my finger and stuff like that too and like dislocated it and had to snap it back in myself because I didn't want to get in trouble. Shamus: Yeah, I got poked in the eye one time. I couldn't see. ⁓ got to the sideline, they washed it out and stuff. I still couldn't see. And they were just like, Yeah, there's a little bit of blood in there, but ⁓ they're just like, you know, are you good to go? And I was just kind of like, What do you mean? They're like, We're gonna put a visor on your helmet that way if you nobody can poke you again and you're good. And I'm like, Holy shit. Like looking back on that, I was just like, Holy God. Cause nowadays they just won't do that. They just don't care. But at field day. They make sure you're hydrated. They make sure they got orange slices out there. They got all kinds of stuff, man. They'll have ⁓ misting tents. Yeah. For these kids if it gets too hot. Not us, man. Not us. Herbie: We had like we had we had lunch and we had dandelions and there was a bush out in the out in the woods that had like honeysuckles. Yep. Buttercups. Shamus: I don't remember being a fucking I forget what practice it was, but like we were hung over just reeking of like whatever we drank the night before, and the coach is just like, ⁓ y'all want to drink? I can smell you like I can smell you guys. So we're gonna work that out of you today. No water breaks. And you're just like, ⁓ it's like a two and a half hour practice, no water breaks, dude. Like can't do that shit. Herbie: Have you ever been like at like to the point where like you drink and you wake up, you're all like hung over and you're afraid to drink any water because it almost seems like the alcohol in your body just turned to like powder and if you add water to it, you're just gonna it's gonna be like, ⁓ here it comes again. I'm gonna start doing the Chebaki yells on top of my car. ⁓ jeez. Shamus: Yeah. So Yeah, there was nothing worse in the world, man. And I I mean I was by the time I got to the military I was so used to it 'cause we would just drink and party and then like yeah, we got practiced more We didn't care. Herbie: Dude, we couldn't Yeah, we couldn't do stuff. But like I didn't get a chance to like get you know, tie one on 'til like later in life, man. Shamus: Us. Like I said, sports night parties, dude. We used to drive around at a pickup truck at a 1980 Toyota, like one of them little ass, like the Back to the Future pickup truck that he had. Yeah. Dude, we'd line that thing with like a big ass pool liner thing. We'd throw all kinds of beer and ice in there. We would just go party hopping. Like you'd be sitting out of light and somebody like, ⁓ let me get two. Like, go ahead. And somebody jump out of another car, grab two or three beers out of the back, get the car. Dude, it was crazy. Herbie: I love stuff like that, man. I've done that before, I was actually like pretty like a decent kid in the like in the high school. I didn't really get too, too crazy. Like ⁓ I didn't really have like the car to be able to go all the big parties. I was cool with everybody, which I was thankful for. But it was basically My town was almost like a dry town. Shamus: Yeah man, we to sports night parties, like any ⁓ anything, we just partied. Herbie: They gotta bring that back. I was actually waiting for almost like a footloose story where like, you know, yeah. Shamus: It was so out of control. Like I said, ⁓ even the police knew what was going on, and they and we all knew them growing up they were just like, yo, keep it down, nobody drives, ⁓ don't do anything stupid. the noise down, don't bring attention to yourselves and do what you can. Because that like you said, like I ⁓ a lot of people listen to this podcast and I get the text all the like, Man, I wish I'd have known you in high school. You were fucking wild man. Listen, I wasn't out of control. Like when I went to school, I was very respectful. I never cursed out any teachers or anything. It was always sir, ma'am. ⁓ it was just the way I was raised. And at that point, I was old enough to realize what my parents were doing to instill like, yeah, okay, this is the guidelines. This is how you be a functioning part of society. You know, this is how you be nice, this is how you be kind. And Now my grades weren't always that great. Yeah. But every time they had a parent teacher conference, they would tell my parents, like, look, he's a great kid. He's You know, he comes to school all the time and you know, he's very happy. He's ⁓ and he was just like, But he just doesn't want to do the work. He loves my class, he loves talking to me and stuff, but man, he hates the homework I give. So ⁓ the principals always said that. I never had a problem like any kind of authority problems or anything like that. But I just love to have a good time. I love to party, I love to drink, I love to play football and sports and you know, just your average American teenage boy back those days, man. And like I said. Herbie: Yeah, same thing with me. Shamus: It's I wish we had field day. I wish I'd have been a part of that because I I love competing in certain things. I never really took it seriously until the puck drop or you know kickoff and stuff. That's when I you know, kinda but and then at the end of the game I was just kinda like, yeah, whatever, it's high school football. I'm not gonna play college football. I'm not gonna play college ice hockey or anything like that. I'm I'm good. Herbie: Peaceful. Yeah, I d I'm I'm glad I did play sports in high school. I like ⁓ the only thing I regret is I wish I would have taken wrestling earlier 'cause like my other buddies, they branched off. They went to Lenape and I went to Aussie. So like in like sixth and seventh grade they actually had like wrestling camp, like in our town. And I I should have went. 'Cause I like I just like, you know, the like, you know, fighting styles and grappling and all that. Shamus: I'll tell you what, man, I never realized that New Jersey is ⁓ really, really like a like a lot of like down south it's football, baseball, certain state. Yeah. Jersey is a total wrestling state. So and I didn't realize how big it was here. Herbie: I think it was like I I I wanna say it's more South Jersey than North Jersey. North Jersey well I'd probably say a little bit more football and basketball and stuff like that, but like wrestling was Shamus: Yeah, then he well I don't know about central Jersey. Yeah, the magical land of central Jersey. But like even the school I worked in Hamilton, ⁓ one of the teachers there is a wrestling coach in northern Burlington. Yeah. Which is a regional school. Yeah. And Yeah, and Herbie: Yeah, now we got the mysterious. I see. I remember wrestling then. Shamus: Every year they go to states. He's always got one or two wrestlers that are really good. And then like he breaks down. He and and they all know who the people are that year. Like he was talking about people down in ⁓ Delcey and like who to watch for. And I was just kind of like, man. ⁓ Herbie: them and you know check out their tapes see how they wrestle their moves yeah yeah actually I was pretty good like I was I was grateful that ⁓ I had friends of mine that are on the team that were that were older than me and brought me under their wing and like showed me more stuff because like back in the day I used to like just love wrestle you know roughhousing with like because I had older cousins and a lot of my friends of course were taller than me and older so it was just like Shamus: Yeah, maybe you should have been better at it, dude. Herbie: You and of course I wanted to be a ninja, so I had to learn all the mil I had to learn all the fighting skills. Shamus: We probably wrap this up. So all right, everybody. Want thank you for listening. ⁓ like I said, we're getting closer to the end of the summer, so closer to building a new studio. Yes. And let me tell you, when I say because a lot of people are like, what the hell are you talking about? Building this. We are gonna build like a not a state of New York thing, but we're gonna build some shit that people are gonna be like, holy god, these guys have way too much time on their hands. ⁓ Herbie: Yeah. Shamus: It's ⁓ it's gonna be a fully functioning like studio kind of deal. Herbie: Fully operational battle station. Shamus: So we're getting closer to building that. we're also gonna start I gotta start printing up some merch. ⁓ you know, coffee mugs, t shirts, magnets. Yeah. Bigger stickers than the ones that we've been giving out. If you need a sticker or something that, hit me off. I'll send you one. ⁓ And we need to start getting the word out there a little bit more. So I'm gonna start, you know, grill style. Advertising. If you see if you're walking down Main Street in Madford or somewhere in Vincent Town or something, and you just happen to stop at a stop sign and you look over and you see the pork, roll, egg, and cheese sticker, know that we were there. Yeah. So all right, Herb. I guess that's a wrap. we'll see you guys on the next one. enjoy your weekend, everybody. Herbie: Yeah, everybody, enjoy your weekend, man. Thanks for listening.