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Zach Attack with Gabi Elnicki · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast
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  Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio.
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  Speaker 2: Hey all, welcome to the Almost Famous Podcast. Today, we
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  Speaker 2: have somebody that we didn't get to have on the
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  Speaker 2: show when she was on the show. It is Gabby
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  Speaker 2: l Nikki. Am I saying that right.
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  Speaker 3: Right?
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  Speaker 2: The runner up from Zach season. We had so much
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  Speaker 2: talk to you about about Zach season. Do you mind
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  Speaker 2: you can do a little like nostalgia trip get into
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  Speaker 2: your life today?
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  Speaker 4: Sure?
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  Speaker 3: I'm yeah, No, I've like it was a fever dream,
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  Speaker 3: but let's let's go back.
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  Speaker 2: To it, okay. My one of my favorite questions to
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  Speaker 2: ask people is when you get out of the Bachelor bubble,
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  Speaker 2: when did you realize You're like, oh, that that person
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  Speaker 2: and I were not actually supposed to keep you together.
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  Speaker 4: Oh goodness.
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  Speaker 3: I think it happened pretty quick. I honestly think I realized.
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  Speaker 3: I actually realized when I was there that he was
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  Speaker 3: not my person. But you know, I digress, But I
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  Speaker 3: realized there. But when I got back, I was like,
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  Speaker 3: thank God, no offense to him. Like him and Katie
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  Speaker 3: are perfect together and I totally understand them as a couple,
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  Speaker 3: and like being so close with Katie, I get it.
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  Speaker 3: Much more now, Like just me, to be honest with you,
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  Speaker 3: I'm like not probably nice enough. I don't think he
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  Speaker 3: could have handled like me because I'm like sassy and
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  Speaker 3: like Katie's like very sweet and she's just a nurse,
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  Speaker 3: and like I know myself, I'm like a little a
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  Speaker 3: little feisty, and I don't think that we would have
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  Speaker 3: been compatible in.
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  Speaker 4: The long run.
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  Speaker 3: Like I'm really kind and really sweet, but I can,
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  Speaker 3: like I like pick up people, like as a joke,
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  Speaker 3: Like I'm very sarcastic, and I just don't know if
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  Speaker 3: that would have landed well.
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  Speaker 5: I mean it makes sense now, right, Like everything you're saying,
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  Speaker 5: you went the whole process. You realize you're not the
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  Speaker 5: right person for him, and that would be maybe a
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  Speaker 5: little confusing for some other seasons when the lead doesn't
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  Speaker 5: end up with somebody. But you're like, no, I saw
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  Speaker 5: with my own eyes who he is meant for, which
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  Speaker 5: means he's not for me, which makes it easier to
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  Speaker 5: move on. I mean, it makes it easier to just
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  Speaker 5: be like that this was a fun season of life.
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  Speaker 3: Hopefully fun would be right, Yeah, And like I'm so
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  Speaker 3: close with Katie and I'm so happy for her. We
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  Speaker 3: honestly see like Zach the Bachelor as like a totally
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  Speaker 3: different person than like her Zach that she has now
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  Speaker 3: but we've gotten, Like I see Katie a lot and
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  Speaker 3: just hearing about their relationship, it's totally different, and I
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  Speaker 3: really think it's for the best. Like they've they're they're
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  Speaker 3: very happy, and I think he's changed as a person
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  Speaker 3: since the show, or at least from what like Katie
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  Speaker 3: and I's conversations have been.
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  Speaker 4: I think everyone has. I mean, you're in this bubble,
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  Speaker 4: and you know, he was.
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  Speaker 3: Having to be the Bachelor, so I'm sure that that
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  Speaker 3: comes with so much pressure. So I just think it's
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  Speaker 3: everything has worked out the way that it has that
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  Speaker 3: it was supposed to do.
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  Speaker 2: During your season, Zach kind of made Fantasy Week a thing,
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  Speaker 2: and you were really the center of that drama. And
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to get too into it because this
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  Speaker 2: is the past. However, we're going into Fantasy Week. I
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  Speaker 2: call it Fantasy Fantasy Week, the Fantasy sweet Week with Grant.
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  Speaker 2: What is your advice to him and all other bachelor's
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  Speaker 2: and bachelorettes going forward.
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  Speaker 5: About this week? I think you should be called like
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  Speaker 5: disappointment week no matter what, like just like you can't
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  Speaker 5: do this right week. Yeah, like nothing's going to be
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  Speaker 5: up to expectations no matter what we're talking about here.
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  Speaker 4: It's so true. You're damned if you do, You're damned
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  Speaker 4: if you don't.
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  Speaker 3: No one can do it like unless like and the
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  Speaker 3: thing is at the same time is it is a
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  Speaker 3: TV show, so like there is that level of entertainment,
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  Speaker 3: right like and we all know that when we.
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  Speaker 4: Go into the show.
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  Speaker 3: But at the same time, like I was going on
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  Speaker 3: to the show and leaving the show the same with
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  Speaker 3: Katie knowing like I want a relationship from here.
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  Speaker 4: I'm ready for that.
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  Speaker 3: And it wasn't it wasn't just a TV show to us.
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  Speaker 3: And so like there's like a scene you see Me
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  Speaker 3: Katie whispering to each other, and it kind of you know,
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  Speaker 3: some people took it one way, some people took it
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  Speaker 3: another way.
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  Speaker 4: But we like already.
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  Speaker 3: Had talked about this like multiple times, like how it's
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  Speaker 3: going to play out, and like how we feel about
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  Speaker 3: going into it, and so like we were very close
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  Speaker 3: friends throughout the whole season. I think it's that's the
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  Speaker 3: part that really made me realize he's not my person
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  Speaker 3: because he didn't protect me at all and that whole
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  Speaker 3: thing because you you have to remember, this isn't just
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  Speaker 3: a TV show, so what you say actually impacts.
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  Speaker 4: People in their real lives.
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  Speaker 3: And unfortunately I was, you know, I got really attacked
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  Speaker 3: for that one. But it's okay, Like I've grown up
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  Speaker 3: and I'm like stronger for having gone through that. But
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  Speaker 3: I knew in that moment somebody who's like a real
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  Speaker 3: partner to me wouldn't choose to not protect me because
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  Speaker 3: there were private times where like I think he could
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  Speaker 3: have had that conversation with Katie or he didn't need
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  Speaker 3: to explain what his you know, proclamation was for the
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  Speaker 3: week in my opinion, whereas like Ariel left and she
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  Speaker 3: had heard the proclamation before and she didn't have any
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  Speaker 3: idea what had happened, and so she was left being.
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  Speaker 4: Like, what's going on?
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  Speaker 3: And it just was very evident in that moment, like
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  Speaker 3: my privacy was not a concern to him, knowing that
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  Speaker 3: like people can take this and use it however they
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  Speaker 3: want on the internet whatever, Like people are going to
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  Speaker 3: come for me.
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  Speaker 4: And I just think that really to me was like.
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  Speaker 3: Telling of like, this person isn't my partner, because I
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  Speaker 3: felt like I wasn't protected by him in any capacity
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  Speaker 3: where I know he was trying to be respectful to
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  Speaker 3: Katie's feelings.
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  Speaker 4: And I get that, I just and there.
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  Speaker 3: Isn't like, like we just said, like there's no easy
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  Speaker 3: way to go about it.
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  Speaker 4: But I do think he could have been a little
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  Speaker 4: more mindful of me.
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  Speaker 5: I think one of the things that came out during
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  Speaker 5: Zach season one of the biggest revelations that I've met
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  Speaker 5: Zach now, as you kind of mentioned as not the bachelor,
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  Speaker 5: He's a very nice man, but I am going to
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  Speaker 5: be critical of his season, but I also think it
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  Speaker 5: highlighted something that we hadn't seen in the past, and
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  Speaker 5: the leads as much. He was very influenced by Sean Lowe,
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  Speaker 5: who was an amazing bachelor. He's a great guy. Both
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  Speaker 5: these guys are dudes. I have nothing but good things
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  Speaker 5: to say about both of them. But he was very
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  Speaker 5: influenced by Sean low throughout the season, and I think
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  Speaker 5: what we saw was Zach was and I don't think
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  Speaker 5: he meant to do this. He didn't purposely do, but
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  Speaker 5: he was inauthentic in his decision making because I think
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  Speaker 5: he was trying to take an advice from the outside
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  Speaker 5: of people telling him how he should go about his experience,
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  Speaker 5: and as a result, it wasn't true to Zach, and
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  Speaker 5: so it got confusing to him because he was like,
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  Speaker 5: I'm gonna say this because I want to do this
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  Speaker 5: because it feels like the right thing. Then he gets
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  Speaker 5: in it, he makes other decisions because that wasn't really
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  Speaker 5: what he wanted or thought he could do or wanted
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  Speaker 5: to do, and then it ends up hurting all the
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  Speaker 5: other people in the background. So we see in Zach's season,
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  Speaker 5: your season is people get hurt due to in authenticity,
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  Speaker 5: and I think that's one of the highlights. Is for
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  Speaker 5: a good lead now is you have to just be
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  Speaker 5: true to yourself, like at least say what you're actually
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  Speaker 5: gonna do and don't try to have somebody else's journey.
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  Speaker 3: I agree with that wholeheartedly. And I think knowing Zach, well,
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  Speaker 3: I don't really I guess I shouldn't say I know him.
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  Speaker 3: I don't hang out with him.
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  Speaker 4: I hang out Katie.
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  Speaker 3: So knowing Zach kind of I do think he really
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  Speaker 3: he just wants a successful relationship, and Kim and Katie
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  Speaker 3: really just want to have a life and a family
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  Speaker 3: together and I'm so happy for them for that. And
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  Speaker 3: I think he saw what Sean had and he has,
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  Speaker 3: you know kids, it really worked out for him and
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  Speaker 3: he was like, I am.
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  Speaker 4: Just blueprint, Like this is the blueprint and if I.
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  Speaker 3: Follow this, then it will work out for me as well.
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  Speaker 3: Well it did work out for him, so everything works
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  Speaker 3: out as it should. But it does go to show
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  Speaker 3: that you really do have to be true to yourself
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  Speaker 3: in whatever it is, and you know it's it's okay,
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  Speaker 3: but yeah, you can't just follow somebody else just because
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  Speaker 3: you think it's the you know, the right thing to
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  Speaker 3: do or that's what looks good or whatever it was.
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  Speaker 2: But you're right. He is on the trajectory of being
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  Speaker 2: the Sean Lowe and being the next guy after him
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  Speaker 2: to be married to his winner, Ari is with Lauren.
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  Speaker 2: But Ari and Lauren that wasn't his first choice.
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  Speaker 5: She's the winner.
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  Speaker 2: Now do you think that Zach would have protected you
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  Speaker 2: if you were his one? Like you think that he
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  Speaker 2: just had in his head like, oh, it's Katie, I
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  Speaker 2: have to protect her and like kind of screw over Gabby.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe No, I don't think that because I've talked to
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  Speaker 3: Katie about this and she was like, no, Zach's told me,
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  Speaker 3: like even like now, like he really says he didn't
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  Speaker 3: know until right before I knew. And I feel like
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  Speaker 3: I pulled back because I was like, I was like,
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  Speaker 3: no one who really loves me, no one who really
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  Speaker 3: cares about me, would take a chance on not protecting me.
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  Speaker 3: And I understand you can be torn, but that doesn't
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  Speaker 3: mean you like don't protect someone that you really.
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  Speaker 4: See a future with.
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  Speaker 3: So maybe he couldn't see it in that moment, but
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  Speaker 3: I could feel it. I think there's like that like
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  Speaker 3: gut feeling you have, and I was like, this just
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  Speaker 3: isn't even if he that wasn't the case for me
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  Speaker 3: a partner in life, that was a no for me.
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  Speaker 4: Like that was kind of the final.
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  Speaker 3: Straw, but I will say I felt that way and
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  Speaker 3: I and I said to the producers, I was like,
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  Speaker 3: I need to talk to him before I meet his
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  Speaker 3: family because this isn't sitting right with me, and I
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  Speaker 3: don't feel comfortable meeting his family until we like really
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  Speaker 3: hash this out.
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  Speaker 4: And we had that conversation.
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  Speaker 3: And I felt better, and then meeting his family, I
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  Speaker 3: think I was just craving like my family so much,
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  Speaker 3: and I just missed them so much, and his family
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  Speaker 3: they really are like I don't know, like the little
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  Speaker 3: Brady bunch. They're like you can tell they're a family
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  Speaker 3: that really loves one another.
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  Speaker 4: And it felt like home.
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  Speaker 3: And so I think that like almost reignited my excitement
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  Speaker 3: of like, oh, well, you know, maybe I do really
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  Speaker 3: still care or like love him or I want to
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  Speaker 3: be with him.
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  Speaker 4: But then I remember.
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  Speaker 3: Like really doing some self reflection to myself alone in
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  Speaker 3: my room in Thailand because I had a lot of
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  Speaker 3: time on my hands, and I just was like, this
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  Speaker 3: is not your person.
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  Speaker 4: You know, this is not your person.
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  Speaker 3: So I really, like I remember, I like had so
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  Speaker 3: much time to like mentally prepare myself for what was
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  Speaker 3: to come, because I didn't want to leave Katie because
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  Speaker 3: you're like in a you know, you're like against other
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  Speaker 3: women and there's other people there and it's.
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  Speaker 4: A weird environment. And I knew that.
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  Speaker 3: She had had doubts throughout the whole process, as everyone does.
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  Speaker 3: That's so normal, Like you're like is this real? Like
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  Speaker 3: am I in a Like am I dreaming this?
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  Speaker 1: Like?
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  Speaker 4: Cause it is. It's extravagant, like you're on these crazy dates,
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  Speaker 4: like no one's going to take you in.
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  Speaker 3: A freaking helicopter, like, sorry, we're not living in like
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  Speaker 3: fifty shades of gray, Like it's not happening most likely.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, some people are sure.
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  Speaker 5: I called it the Disappointments Suite. If this was a
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  Speaker 5: real a week it's if it was a real fifty
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  Speaker 5: shades of gray thing going on, then yeah, of course
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  Speaker 5: call it the fantasy Suite.
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  Speaker 1: Yep.
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  Speaker 4: Right, Well for some people, I suppose the Red Room. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: the Red Room of pain.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, Gabby, I have I mean I can tell right
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  Speaker 5: now this is such a distant memory to you, like
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  Speaker 5: it wasn't that long ago, but like you're pulling out
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  Speaker 5: stuff that I can tell is not like a fresh
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  Speaker 5: in your mind that you've moved far past this. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: And I think that's where I want to like lean
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  Speaker 5: into now. Now is you know, with your new relationship.
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  Speaker 5: And I believe your boyfriend right now is Zach right, Yes,
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  Speaker 5: his name is easy. Good for you. He made a smart.
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  Speaker 2: Decision, Like you must have laughed so hard when you
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  Speaker 2: found him.
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  Speaker 4: I was like, can we like change your name? Perhaps
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  Speaker 4: it's a little too.
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  Speaker 5: Soon now for those that are listening, you know, who
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  Speaker 5: know your story from the Bachelor, which we just kind
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  Speaker 5: of walked through and but are unfamiliar now with this
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  Speaker 5: new relationship. Can you catch us all up on who
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  Speaker 5: he is and where your life stands today. Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: Sure.
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  Speaker 3: So Zach actually was one of my friends in Houston.
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  Speaker 3: I have known him for a few years, which is
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  Speaker 3: actually very nice because I knew him when I had
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  Speaker 3: a boyfriend, and so we would go out together and
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  Speaker 3: I got to watch him like in his like most
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  Speaker 3: true environment of like you know, he's going out, he's
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  Speaker 3: talking to girls, and I got to see him like
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  Speaker 3: just how he acted as.
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  Speaker 4: A man in his twenties.
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  Speaker 3: And he's always been just such a good friend to me.
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  Speaker 3: When I went through my breakup that was really jarring
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  Speaker 3: to me and required a lot of therapy to get through,
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  Speaker 3: he really encouraged me to go on the show. He
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  Speaker 3: was like, this is going to be really good for
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  Speaker 3: you there. You you really can't lose anything. If you,
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  Speaker 3: you know, come back, you'll you could possibly find someone.
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  Speaker 3: And if not, like think about all of like the
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  Speaker 3: people that will see you, and then you will find someone.
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  Speaker 3: And I was just crazy, like he was really just
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  Speaker 3: like such a supportive friend through it. Him and my
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  Speaker 3: other friend Macy and like we all three of us
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  Speaker 3: would hang out a lot, and just like when I
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  Speaker 3: got back, they were like two of the only people
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  Speaker 3: that I felt like I could like trust because they
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  Speaker 3: knew I was interviewing for the Bachelor and they didn't
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  Speaker 3: tell anyone.
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  Speaker 4: They just like were kind of like steal fortresses to me.
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  Speaker 3: And then like one night, like we were we just
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  Speaker 3: went out to dinner together and I'll like, you're actually
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  Speaker 3: like really fun and like you're pretty cute too.
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  Speaker 5: I like you, is that wait time out, do you
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  Speaker 5: say those words to him or you're just thinking it?
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  Speaker 4: No, it was in my head. It was in my head.
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  Speaker 3: No, And yeah, I guess just one thing led to
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  Speaker 3: another and here we are.
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  Speaker 4: But I will say it was really.
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  Speaker 2: Hard what one thing led to another? Like I need
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  Speaker 2: to know the moment you kissed, Well, how did you
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  Speaker 2: how do.
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  Speaker 5: You take this step from best like friendships to oh.
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  Speaker 4: Well you just get drunk.
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  Speaker 3: We're being honest, Yeah, we just had a little bit
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  Speaker 3: too much wine at dinner and then one thing wanted
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  Speaker 3: to another.
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  Speaker 5: That night that night, Okay, well.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but I've known, like you know, it was like, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I've known him.
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  Speaker 2: Were you flirting with him beforehand? Were you feeling something
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  Speaker 2: before this drunk night.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we definitely used to flirt and like he even
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  Speaker 3: it's so it's honestly horrible to say when like my
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  Speaker 3: ex would like not be if he was out of
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  Speaker 3: town and we'd go out together, like he would pretend
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  Speaker 3: to be my boyfriend, like you know, fight the other
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  Speaker 3: men off, and it was never anything. But it's just
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  Speaker 3: so funny that he was always like my pretend boyfriend
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  Speaker 3: and then now.
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  Speaker 4: He's like my real boyfriend.
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  Speaker 3: So maybe I was like manifesting something like years ago
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  Speaker 3: and I didn't.
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  Speaker 4: Even realize it.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, I honestly never thought I was going to
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  Speaker 3: date him.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, that's such a cute story.
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  Speaker 5: I love it.
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  Speaker 2: So now you guys have been together for two years.
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  Speaker 3: Not quite, I think it'll be. This is where it's like, truly,
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  Speaker 3: I'm in like a time warp. I don't really know
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  Speaker 3: what year it is. I think it'll be two years
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  Speaker 3: in June. We like really started dating in June of
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  Speaker 3: all right, twenty twenty three.
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  Speaker 5: That makes sense, that's up, Yes it does.
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  Speaker 2: Do you feel like this is your person?
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  Speaker 3: Definitely? I don't really see myself with anyone else. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I feel like this is just a really good, healthy relationship.
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  Speaker 3: He's the first person I've really, like, genuinely trusted, and
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  Speaker 3: I feel like that's the difference with all my other relationships,
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: Like if he goes out of town on a golf trip,
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: or he's out with his friends or I'm out with
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: my friends, Like I feel like we really trust one another.
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: I never worry about, oh, he's not texting me back,
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: he's at the club, like, oh he said his phone died,
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: like liar, Like it's none of that dialogue is going
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: through my head. And I feel like that's a sign
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: of first of all, maturity from my from me, so
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: I'm growing up. And second, I just think it's like
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: a healthier relationship. He's very supportive of me. My family
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: loves him. This is one of the first guys my
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: family has loved, like genuinely loved.
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: I was like after my last before.
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: Zach the boyfriend before that, I was like, never again,
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: if one of you guys does not tell me that
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: you hate my my friend, like we're done here, Like
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: you guys are out of the circle of trust.
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: So they really love him. It's been really, really great.
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: You have a quote out there that says that you,
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: I mean speaking to what you just were sharing that
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: with Zach, you never have to question. I think the
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: quote was like where you're at, like there's a piece
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: and a comfort there, Yeah, which I would say for
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: somebody who I just found out today. I've been dating
• 18:25
  Speaker 5: my wife for a little over six and a half years.
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: It is one of the like looking back, biggest factors
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: to knowing that it's your person too. Is that comfort,
• 18:36
  Speaker 5: that piece that comes with a relationship.
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree.
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: I think it's something I hadn't felt before, Like maybe
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: I felt like safe or like comfortable in the sense
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: of like like you're just kind of you're not doing
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: anything else but in you're comfortable, but not in a
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: good way, not in a way where you're like I
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: know where we stand, I know what the future looks like.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: I know my future like has you in it, and
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: you don't want to be with anyone else you you
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: know some like if somebody I'm trying to think of
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: who my like celebrity crushes, if like Mick Dreamy walked in,
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: I want to be like, bye, Zach, I'm not sure
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: have a good choice.
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: So good choice.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: Okay, So you guys just moved in together. Yeah, I
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: was that transition.
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: Ben.
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: It was like a not quite a year ago, you're agoing.
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: May No, it's great. He let me decorate.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: He likes a big thing. That's a big thing.
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah no, he he was literally like, wow, I didn't
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: realize how ugly things were until you got here.
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: And I'll take that, sir exactly. So he No, he
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: loves it.
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: I mean yesterday we went to Barnes and Noble for
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: like two hours while I like chose out cook books.
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: And he was a very good companion in that. He
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: was like, honestly, I'm getting the food, so like, it's fine,
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: I'll sit here while you choose these cookbooks.
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: So we have like.
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: Such a like fun little life here, which I really love.
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: We honestly, I act like a really like old couple.
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: We are like I'm like a grandma. I like sew
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: and cook and make bread and do like that kind
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: of stuff. And he loves it and he does the
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: dishes and that's that's how our life works.
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: And it's great.
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: Sourdough is a thing these days. Team anybody listening. I
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: was just talking to my wife about it. She's been
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: making the best sourdough for the last couple of months,
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: and I thought it was like this new wild thing
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: that just just decided to start doing. And then I'm
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: realizing it's a thing now. Yeah, making bread is out there.
• 20:52
  Speaker 5: Make it cool again in twenty twenty five. I think
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: knitting comes in twenty twenty six, that's my prediction. I
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: think we go bread this year, Knitting Club's next year,
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: We're back with wine and knitting and goodness, my life
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: is set. That's all I want, Gabby. We have a
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: little bit of time left with you, and we're so
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: happy for your relationship with Zach now, like the Zach
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: that's in your life today, Yeah, maybe the Zach before.
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: And it feels like just from hearing you talk about it,
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: like it does feel like this just like really exciting,
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: peaceful relationship, and that's really fun for us to hear.
• 21:28
  Speaker 5: I want to make a really weird pivot though, back
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: to the Bachelor a little bit and talk about your
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: latest girls trip to Montana. Yeah, we followed it on
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: social media here almost famous. It looked like a blast.
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: I live in Denver, Montana, and I have we have
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: a place up in Wyoming, and so this area of
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: the country means a lot to me and I love
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: seeing you all kind of like enjoy it and take
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: it over. We start with a question that so many
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: are asking, is Okay, we noticed all of the girls
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: from ze season there friends still, which is awesome. But
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: Letia from this season, yeah, was there as well. Obviously
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: she's not a part of Zach's season. She's on this
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: current season, Grant season of The Bachelor. How did that happen?
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's really cool.
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: Grant season has some older girls, and Lytia is actually
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: closer to like our age group, and just through general
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: Bachelor Nation, everyone kind of is connected, whether it's just
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: like showing general support or following each other.
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: That's just something that happens in Bachelor Nation. So you know,
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: we started messaging her and she just seemed like really cool.
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: She clicked with a few of the girls.
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: And we were like, let's invite her on a trip.
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: And I know this is a lot on her. We've
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: all been through it, just generally dealing with the filming
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: and watching it all back. We thought'd be fun, so
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: she can't watch trip. She's amazing. I love her.
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: She's super cool, super down to earth, just generally.
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: Speaking, a good time and She's might be coming to
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: our rodeo weekend. This weekend, the other girls are coming
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: to Houston. We're gonna go to the rodeo, and I
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: think she might be coming.
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: Goodness, that's fun. Have you been keeping up with Grand season?
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: I watched like highlights on TikTok Okay.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: I was gonna ask if she comes across in real
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: life the way that she does on the show.
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: I think her.
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: Facial expressions are like really funny on the show, and
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: she doesn't have those kind of facial expressions in real life,
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: like her eyes and the scenes. I'm like, this is hilarious,
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: but that doesn't actually happen.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: Did you get some tea about her time on this show?
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: Obviously no spoilers here, but did she share her whole story?
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: She shared snippets of it, and it sounds like.
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I I yeah, I was eavesdropping on
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: a FaceTime call about one episode somebody called her up
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: about and so yeah, there's definitely some tea there, but
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: I can't share it now.
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah that's okay. We respect the teas and the tea,
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: but not the spoilers. This trip looked like a good time.
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: Was it as good of a time as it looked
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: on social media, or is this one of those we're
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: gonna just share highlights. The rest of the time we
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: were fighting, yelling and arguments.
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: Okay, I will actually say this trip had a little
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: more like drama than normal, which was really weird. We've
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: never had drama on any of our trips. But the
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: really cool temperature really brings out a side of people.
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: And I will say part of that was because I
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: was designated driver, as was Katie, because we are the
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: We're both from the north, so we've endured snow. But
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: those people who are from like Ariel doesn't even have
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: a license, Like she's from New York, but she don't
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: even have a license.
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: She's never dripped, like she's in a cab.
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: And I was like, so, you know, if I'm driving
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: in a snow storm and I'm like, I feel our
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: car going off the road and you know the girls
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: are in the back doing a TikTok with their lights on, I'm.
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: Like, girls, ladies, let's stop it right now.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: Is that where the drama came from?
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: No, But it just like generally like things, there wasn't
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: necessarily I shouldn't say drama.
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: It just was like there was tension.
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: Of like things like that where it'd be like, okay,
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: like we're not driving two hours away because there's a snowstorms,
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: so like let's I know, it sounds so fun, but like,
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: we're not gonna do that. Also, we went to the
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: hot tub one day and it was so cold. I
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: mean it was so cold, and we were like, it's
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: gonna be so fun because we were gonna do the
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: hot springs, but apparently because of how cold it was,
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: the hot springs near us were like actually only lukewarm.
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: So we're like, we can't do that. So we were
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: going to the.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: Hot tub and Katie literally drove off the side of
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: the road, so then the girls got stuck at the
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: hot tub. So it was just honestly, I wish that
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: people could have had a camera on us watching us
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: because it was so funny because people were like, no,
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: we got to get out of here, like I'm freezing,
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: and it was like dramatic in that sense, but it
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: was hilarious.
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: So anyways, just like find a driver. That was what
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: I was like. I left, I say, you know what.
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: We're either coming back in the summer or we're hiring
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: a driver because I'm done here.
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: I'll just do warm trips for everybody. Stop these cold things.
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: Get it.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: Yes, As I always say, it's a shame that we
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: don't have a spin off show of our real lives
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: after the show, there's so many relationships to document, including
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: your relationship with Katie. Before we let you go, I
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: just have to know, like, if you are ever in
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: a room with Katie and Zach, like Katie insists she
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: told us on the podcast, it's not awkward, it's not.
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: It's not because seriously, like Zach the Bachelor is so
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: far removed from my life, and like he is a
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: different we actually view him as a different person than
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: like her Zach, and like it's just like I'm happy
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: for her and I'm happy for him, and I think
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: partially it's because I've moved on and I'm happy. Like
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: if I had not moved on and I was, you know,
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: salty and angry, I'm not. I wanted the best for
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: Katie and she was one of my closest friends. She
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: still is, and I want the best for Zach as well,
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: because like, why would I wish Ill will on him
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: Tho'd just be really weird. But no, I like was
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: in Austin, UH, last year, and like Louis was with
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: me my dog who he met like at my hometowns,
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: and you know, it's funny.
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: I was like, Louie, do you remember Zach? Like it
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: wasn't It's not awkward.
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: It's just like that was one stage of life and
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: now we're in a different one and like who's gonna
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: like I would never date someone and be like, oh,
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: like used to date that person, Like ew, I'm actually
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: done with you, Like I'm not going to talk to
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: you anymore. Like it's just like I don't know we were.
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: Me and Katie are passed it and it was never
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: a thing.
• 27:59
  Speaker 5: Really for me, I would imagine. I think I asked
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: Zach this question in a roundabout way. I don't know
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: if he had the answer I was thinking he would have.
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: I think it's probably really nice for him too, because
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: you want to get off the show and you don't
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: want to be like everybody hates me. I have thirty
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: enemies out there in this world. Nobody wants to talk
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: to me again. And for you all to want to
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: still hang out with the person he chose, which is
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: very rare, by the way, like a very rare thing.
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: Usually the person that gets chosen is kind of on
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: their own little island. And then also to not be
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: like upset to see him. It's probably a really good
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: compliment to him as a person, but also a really
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: good thing for him to feel, at least I would expect.
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: So you know what's so funny is you talked about
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: the island. Well, everyone thought I won, and so for
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: months while I was airing, everyone still thought that I
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: won from my season, like all the girls. So like
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: I wasn't in the group chat because I was on
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: the island, yeah, and no one added me, And I
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: was like, first.
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: Of all, y'all suck.
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: Was Katie in the group chat?
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: Yes, in the group chat and they were like talking
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: about Zach And I'm literally like trolling Zach in the
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: group chat and She's like, hah, like so funny, Like
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: and I meanwhile, I'm on my island. I'm like, hey, guys, like,
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: just so you know, I got dumped in Thailand.
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: But does anyone want to be my friend?
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah? Please? Like I like some friends from this Oh goodness.
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: That just shows up what a great human Katie is
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: to like she has she's taken it all, She's and
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: so of you. I mean, you guys have battled through this. Gabby.
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: We're so happy for you that you are in this relationship.
• 29:40
  Speaker 5: Now that life is moving in this direction, it feels
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: like of excitement, of peace, of a whole new season.
• 29:48
  Speaker 5: Thank you for sharing all this today with us. Thank
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: you for giving us the update of your life. And
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: now that you know you can come here, we'd like
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: to see again sometime and the catch up on you know,
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: maybe some big announcements that are coming your way in
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: the next like ten years or so, like.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: An engagement or something.
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you just never know. I told Zad, give me
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: like six more months.
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: I need to like prepare myself. No, thank you guys
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: so much for having me.
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: It was great to talk to you guys, and congrats
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: to you both on your kids and all the excitement
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: in your lives.
• 30:23
  Speaker 5: Wow, it's a wild ride over here with that. This
• 30:26
  Speaker 5: has been the Almost Famous podcast Today. We've had Gabby
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: from Zach season of The Bachelor on until next time.
• 30:33
  Speaker 5: I've been Ben, I've been Ashley.
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: See you guys.
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: Bye.
• 30:37
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