Latest / Stuff Mom Never Told You / Happy Hour #107: The Caste System (SATC S2, Ep. 10)
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- 2:01Speaker 1: back and we are on season two, episode ten. But
- 2:05Speaker 1: before we begin, we need the recap. Can you give
- 2:08Speaker 1: us a recap? Okay, We've gotten a lot of conversation
- 2:13Speaker 1: with Carrie and Big around setting kind of relationship expectations
- 2:19Speaker 1: and boundaries now that they're back together. What does what
- 2:23Speaker 1: does their relationship look like? What do they both want
- 2:25Speaker 1: out of it? I feel like we saw a lot
- 2:27Speaker 1: of Big being a jerk, but you know that's for
- 2:31Speaker 1: the course. Apparently for the course. We've been introduced to
- 2:35Speaker 1: Steve Miranda's I hope This isn't a spoiler. I don't
- 2:39Speaker 1: think it is, but it is around a lot in
- 2:42Speaker 1: the show with Miranda, and they're kind of working on
- 2:45Speaker 1: their own boundaries as well and what they want to
- 2:48Speaker 1: have the relationship, how they can make it work. Charlotte
- 2:50Speaker 1: continues to try to find the one and not quite
- 2:56Speaker 1: able to That sounds like I'm blaming her, I'm not,
- 2:59Speaker 1: but she's she continually is with these guys who she's like,
- 3:02Speaker 1: this is the one, and then by the end of
- 3:04Speaker 1: the twenty six minute episode, who's not the one? And
- 3:08Speaker 1: then Samantha continues to be there with the support and
- 3:12Speaker 1: the jokes and all the jokes. Yeah, and her wisdom. Sure,
- 3:20Speaker 1: you know what, she has definitely been the one that
- 3:22Speaker 1: has been at ease. As much drama as she may have,
- 3:26Speaker 1: it's less dramatic. Yeah. She definitely seems kind of at
- 3:31Speaker 1: least from what I've seen, because I have never seen this. Listeners,
- 3:33Speaker 1: if this is somehow your first time hearing that, I've
- 3:35Speaker 1: never seen it. So far, she seems like she rolls
- 3:38Speaker 1: with the punches a lot. Yeah. So yeah, yeah, she's
- 3:42Speaker 1: been kind of a stable, which is what made us
- 3:45Speaker 1: sad with and just like that. But that's okay. All right.
- 3:49Speaker 1: So now we're on episode ten. We're gonna go ahead
- 3:52Speaker 1: and let you know if you've not watched this, just
- 3:55Speaker 1: one is a little racist. I do find an offensive myself,
- 3:59Speaker 1: and this is one of the ones. I'm like, Okay,
- 4:00Speaker 1: this is one of the bigger problematic ones. As we
- 4:03Speaker 1: talked about before, we're trying not to scot around the issues.
- 4:07Speaker 1: This was in the nineteen ninety nine when it was released.
- 4:09Speaker 1: I believe it was August eight of nineteen ninety nine.
- 4:12Speaker 1: Doesn't make it better, but just to let you know
- 4:14Speaker 1: it is at this point in time, we understand how
- 4:17Speaker 1: this is gross today. But yeah, but before we start,
- 4:21Speaker 1: we're gonna go ahead to the title. You can do
- 4:23Speaker 1: a prediction. I've given you some clues since then. Obviously.
- 4:26Speaker 1: The title of this episode is the cast System. M Well,
- 4:32Speaker 1: the thing is, you've never told me exactly what this
- 4:35Speaker 1: is about, but you've given me a lot of hits
- 4:38Speaker 1: up the mornings, and it's kind of infamous in my brain.
- 4:41Speaker 1: The more problematic ones. I don't no, I don't know
- 4:50Speaker 1: what it could be. I mean, I know it's racing.
- 4:56Speaker 1: Oh oh oh, Well, she is really really struggling on
- 5:03Speaker 1: this one can't think of what it would be like.
- 5:07Speaker 1: I think I'm giving you a hand that I was
- 5:09Speaker 1: personally offended by it, so that should probably lean into
- 5:13Speaker 1: And the idea of cast system is very uh Asian
- 5:18Speaker 1: in itself. It feels racist even ya. Honestly, I'll just
- 5:26Speaker 1: go with it. It's racist. You're ready, You're not wrong.
- 5:48Speaker 1: The first time I realized I actually loved being oh,
- 5:54Speaker 1: she loved him. They're staring at each other with toast.
- 5:56Speaker 1: It's so New York because I'm just reading newspapers together
- 5:59Speaker 1: while we're sexy clothes like he's really short off his
- 6:02Speaker 1: chest while she's just wearing his shirts, which, by the way,
- 6:05Speaker 1: that's never been a thing for me. I've never worn
- 6:07Speaker 1: a man's button nug shirt, have you? No? I mean
- 6:12Speaker 1: not in a relationship. I've worn one, Okay, got you like? No,
- 6:20Speaker 1: oh no, why would you do that to me? I said, well,
- 6:31Speaker 1: what's this for? Oh? I just saw it and thought
- 6:34Speaker 1: of you. Oh no, jeweled swan and it doesn't look
- 6:42Speaker 1: good like I think there's a possibility you could make
- 6:46Speaker 1: that look good, but it does not look good. It
- 6:48Speaker 1: was just wrong. It was wrong. I didn't know what
- 6:53Speaker 1: to say, except I love you, She said, I love
- 6:59Speaker 1: you for that big I love you because he gave
- 7:01Speaker 1: you that. What did you think? It was a large
- 7:03Speaker 1: diamond duck ran, She said, I love you and she
- 7:06Speaker 1: brought it brush a large diamond duck ran. If I
- 7:13Speaker 1: saw this table, I'd be like the hales, you're welcome.
- 7:20Speaker 1: I'll just wait for you outside. Oh he gave the
- 7:24Speaker 1: you're welcome reply to the cheek. So I've always asked
- 7:32Speaker 1: that question. I've even asked questions to my friends because
- 7:35Speaker 1: they will quickly tell people I love you, and I'm like, wait,
- 7:39Speaker 1: what how did you do that? Why what made you
- 7:41Speaker 1: say that? Because for me, when it comes to my friends,
- 7:45Speaker 1: it's easy, but for like relationships, I was like, no, no,
- 7:50Speaker 1: but I don't think I've ever actually told anybody before
- 7:53Speaker 1: my partner today that I loved them. Yeah, it does
- 7:57Speaker 1: feel I kind of think we were. It's not the
- 8:00Speaker 1: same level, but kind of like when we were talking
- 8:01Speaker 1: about the last episode of like when you post on Facebook,
- 8:04Speaker 1: like in relationship, it does feel like saying I love
- 8:07Speaker 1: you elevates it. It does to another level. Yeah, and
- 8:12Speaker 1: if somebody doesn't respond back, then you're left hanging like
- 8:16Speaker 1: m as she says, like it's the gauntlet and now
- 8:20Speaker 1: either they have to break up or go forward, which
- 8:21Speaker 1: one isn't. Yeah, And the thing is, it's kind of
- 8:24Speaker 1: like the power move we keep talking about, which is unfortunate,
- 8:26Speaker 1: but so many relationships are that, like, oh, now I
- 8:29Speaker 1: have the power. She said, I love you. I didn't, right,
- 8:34Speaker 1: this is the power in my court. She was dating
- 8:42Speaker 1: a bartender who worshiped her, and Miranda was so crazy
- 8:45Speaker 1: about him in return that she let him take her
- 8:47Speaker 1: out to dinner, but only to places she knew he
- 8:50Speaker 1: could afford. And now we're back with Miranda, who is
- 8:52Speaker 1: so happily in this relationship. That piece of pizza New
- 8:56Speaker 1: York slot, as he said it, I've never really had
- 8:59Speaker 1: new pizza. I've been in New York, but I don't
- 9:01Speaker 1: get for pizza. I've had Italian pizza, you know, but
- 9:05Speaker 1: in New York pizza. I warn you, it's going to
- 9:08Speaker 1: be totally boring. It's not gonna be boring if I'm
- 9:10Speaker 1: there with you. He's going to an a van with her,
- 9:14Speaker 1: it's not going to be boring. From there with you.
- 9:16Speaker 1: He's in, he's very cute, probably wear a suit. I'm
- 9:23Speaker 1: gonna get big fantie did you have a slue, right, try,
- 9:29Speaker 1: she's really nice. UM's gold, it's just goos. I'm sorry.
- 9:40Speaker 1: What's wrong with corduroy. Oh it's corter of gold, gold
- 9:44Speaker 1: corduroy suits. For the first time, Steve took Miranda back
- 9:53Speaker 1: to his place apartment that looks like a murder house. Look,
- 9:58Speaker 1: we have to be real though, so many shows like
- 10:02Speaker 1: Paint New York is if we could afford it, it's
- 10:06Speaker 1: not true. Well, she's a partner now and that's why
- 10:08Speaker 1: she gets her own apartment. Sam's a big pr person.
- 10:11Speaker 1: Karrie has written control. She has written control apartment. Um
- 10:17Speaker 1: and yes, Steve has a scary place, and this would
- 10:20Speaker 1: probably be the place that you could afford because literally
- 10:23Speaker 1: has a kitchen net I think bathroom and that's the end.
- 10:26Speaker 1: I like that one pan just hanging there. Right, Wait
- 10:35Speaker 1: a minute. Rich men date not so rich women all
- 10:39Speaker 1: the time and it come out. Look at me and
- 10:41Speaker 1: big it's not about money. It's about compatibility. Not about money,
- 10:46Speaker 1: more about compatibility. But we talked about this. You can't
- 10:52Speaker 1: remove it, unfortunately, in my opinion, Yeah, that he probably
- 10:57Speaker 1: thinks that, Oh I am so much Richard, think Carrie,
- 11:00Speaker 1: And he probably likes yeah, and if she were to
- 11:03Speaker 1: ever make more money exactly, he would have a problem
- 11:05Speaker 1: with that. I want to enjoy my success, not apologize
- 11:08Speaker 1: for it. Bravo, honey, that's the line everybody remembers. I
- 11:12Speaker 1: want to enjoy my success, not apologize for it. Talking
- 11:16Speaker 1: about a difference in background and education, this guy is
- 11:19Speaker 1: working class. Oh, don't say things like working class anymore.
- 11:25Speaker 1: But you're trying to pretend that we live in a
- 11:27Speaker 1: classless society and we don't. And then this is the racist.
- 11:31Speaker 1: But where she made sure to show off that while
- 11:34Speaker 1: they're getting their nails done that they're in a class system.
- 11:37Speaker 1: And who was the upper class as Charlotte Wood? Right?
- 11:41Speaker 1: You doing a guy right now, and he's got an
- 11:43Speaker 1: actual servant, So saone, I'm a stating someone seems who
- 11:48Speaker 1: has a servant, as they called it, who is an
- 11:51Speaker 1: Asian woman that's made of killing in the more, turning
- 11:54Speaker 1: Chelsea sweatshops into luxury co ops. Fantastic cook. You want
- 12:00Speaker 1: to better time? Ye? Yes? Please? Do you like spie
- 12:08Speaker 1: che like mister Harby niece. So I don't know the background,
- 12:15Speaker 1: because I know that plenty of refugees and people who
- 12:20Speaker 1: are commute to the country have accents. Accents are not
- 12:22Speaker 1: a big deal. But I feel like they played her
- 12:25Speaker 1: up right and a stereotype for this episode as comedy,
- 12:31Speaker 1: it's fairly offensive. Yeah, very offensive. Well, didn't Stephanie, sirius
- 12:36Speaker 1: She of everything everywhere, all at once, and a bunch
- 12:39Speaker 1: of other things. But she said like she'd been asked
- 12:42Speaker 1: in auditions to play up Yeah, her accents. Yep. The
- 12:52Speaker 1: next afternoon, Charlotte made the acquaintance of a member of
- 12:55Speaker 1: the very highest cast, a cast at from coast to coast,
- 12:58Speaker 1: rich and poor. Everyone deferred to an honored without question
- 13:03Speaker 1: the movie star. Oh yeah, we have the dude who
- 13:08Speaker 1: I am guessing was probably the Christian Slater of that time.
- 13:14Speaker 1: I'm saying, yea, how much for this piece? The fire extinguisher?
- 13:23Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, that's that's a real fire extinguisher.
- 13:30Speaker 1: I mean, to be fair, I probably would have done
- 13:32Speaker 1: something an art gallery like what is this is a
- 13:36Speaker 1: literal fire extinguisher, sir Honestly, look at some of the
- 13:40Speaker 1: art that's happening these days. That's fair enough, yes, but
- 13:43Speaker 1: that's also a name. Like not excusing this dude like
- 13:46Speaker 1: he's supposed to look this idiotic, but like there's a
- 13:49Speaker 1: name above it, so it looks like that is an
- 13:52Speaker 1: art piece. You think about closing out for the rest
- 13:54Speaker 1: of the afternoon. Oh my god, Oh yeah, now she
- 13:57Speaker 1: gonna run away with the movie stars making out. When
- 14:00Speaker 1: I was a kid, I asked my mom, is this
- 14:04Speaker 1: how you meet people? You go to a bar and
- 14:07Speaker 1: then you have sex? And she was like, oh god, no,
- 14:11Speaker 1: but if you're watching this, I'm want to assume, right.
- 14:14Speaker 1: I mean I went to bars thinking that in my
- 14:16Speaker 1: early twenties, going like I'm gonna go make guy, and
- 14:19Speaker 1: that never happened. That's what it leads to. Like, but
- 14:23Speaker 1: that's kind of why, Like, this is why online dating
- 14:26Speaker 1: was so successful, because this was the option. This is
- 14:29Speaker 1: the only when you knew you met through this or
- 14:31Speaker 1: through work, which could be a problem. Yes, what do
- 14:41Speaker 1: you think? I think it's kind of frightening. How good
- 14:44Speaker 1: I look. It's a beautiful suit. I think we should
- 14:47Speaker 1: take it. Could you do a cuff with a nice
- 14:50Speaker 1: little break? Would be the shoes. I wouldn't know what
- 14:53Speaker 1: to say. I don't know how she knows so much
- 14:55Speaker 1: about suits. I guess we're taking these shoes. Uh yeah,
- 15:02Speaker 1: just like that. Jesus eighteen hundred. Yeah, don't worry, it's
- 15:14Speaker 1: my trade. What do this thing? I want to pay
- 15:18Speaker 1: for the suit? No way, You're not buying me suit.
- 15:21Speaker 1: So Marinna wants to pay for the suit. Yeah, and
- 15:24Speaker 1: we already see problems here. Yeah, by seeing this as well.
- 15:27Speaker 1: But I wanted to do this for you. Then I
- 15:31Speaker 1: started to think of you like my mother, and that
- 15:33Speaker 1: get a little weird. If he is I feel like
- 15:37Speaker 1: you can do this, but she should have told him before,
- 15:39Speaker 1: like I would like to do this for you. It's embarrassing. Yeah,
- 15:47Speaker 1: Stigin it's expensive. Would you just let me buy the
- 15:52Speaker 1: And he's so embarrassed? Yeah, that is becoming a problem.
- 15:56Speaker 1: That's kind of like when I feel like when you
- 15:58Speaker 1: take someone to a fancy restaurant, you either have to
- 16:00Speaker 1: warn them, yeah, or pay for yourself. Never tell them, right,
- 16:11Speaker 1: I know what you're really pissed off about, but it's
- 16:14Speaker 1: just something I've got to do in my own time.
- 16:18Speaker 1: Big is having a phone conversation with Carrie. Well, I
- 16:24Speaker 1: love you, I love you. He is just a tough
- 16:31Speaker 1: thing for me to say because it always seems to
- 16:34Speaker 1: get me in trouble when I say it. Okay, okay,
- 16:42Speaker 1: are we okay, great, Hey, I love you too. I
- 16:51Speaker 1: call you later. Okay. How awkward? Like wait what? Wait?
- 17:01Speaker 1: Oh my? Was that chooting she made out with them
- 17:06Speaker 1: and her excuses everything before? I love you? It doesn't
- 17:08Speaker 1: count things. Oh no, I wouldn't agree with that. I
- 17:11Speaker 1: don't either. That's definitely like and we've definitely play it all.
- 17:16Speaker 1: I felt like I wouldn't have a huge problem. Yeah,
- 17:20Speaker 1: as we've discussed with a lot of these episodes, Like
- 17:22Speaker 1: I feel like if you had that discussion before, like hey,
- 17:26Speaker 1: we're not exclusive or we're exclusive, but I felt like
- 17:29Speaker 1: the vibe was they were exclusive and it I would
- 17:35Speaker 1: be heard if I found out you were right, especially
- 17:39Speaker 1: after saying you love someone and that's what you want
- 17:41Speaker 1: out of them, right right, Because then, because I mean honestly,
- 17:47Speaker 1: like sometimes somebody tells you something that impactful and you
- 17:50Speaker 1: have to I will say me, I have to sit
- 17:52Speaker 1: with it and be like okay, And I know that
- 17:55Speaker 1: sucks for the other person because then you're like, you know,
- 17:57Speaker 1: tumbling in your mind. Oh they don't, but for me,
- 18:00Speaker 1: I'm literally I just need to think about it for
- 18:03Speaker 1: a second. Unless we've already reached that point where I'm
- 18:08Speaker 1: convinced of it, right, But if I if I haven't
- 18:10Speaker 1: really considered it, but if you've said it already and
- 18:15Speaker 1: the other person hasn't said it yet, that doesn't necessarily
- 18:19Speaker 1: mean they don't feel that way. And I would be
- 18:22Speaker 1: heard to find out. Yeah, yeah, there would have somebody else.
- 18:26Speaker 1: There's a whole lot of process there. You go, that
- 18:47Speaker 1: is the cast system and you get I'll give you
- 18:51Speaker 1: ten points out of like one hundred or for that
- 18:53Speaker 1: one because it is very receless that you are corrupt. Um.
- 18:57Speaker 1: But yeah, So we have the end of Miranda and
- 18:59Speaker 1: Steve this point in time. Oh really they broke up? Well,
- 19:03Speaker 1: I mean they did, but I see me. Okay, girls
- 19:07Speaker 1: gonna here. Sam had a weird relationship with a weird
- 19:12Speaker 1: dude and his housekeeper who they all kept calling servant,
- 19:16Speaker 1: which is really like, I hate that. It just feels gross.
- 19:20Speaker 1: And then we have Charlotte trying to get in with
- 19:23Speaker 1: the movie stars, which I'm like, are they really at
- 19:25Speaker 1: the top? I would never think they were at the top.
- 19:28Speaker 1: M No. And that's interesting to me that Charlotte again,
- 19:34Speaker 1: she's kind of a fascinating character because I feel like
- 19:36Speaker 1: she's like wanting to find the one and she meets
- 19:38Speaker 1: this movie star and she's like, this is it. She
- 19:39Speaker 1: gets all caught up into it, but yeah, in the
- 19:41Speaker 1: back of her mind had to be somewhere this guy
- 19:46Speaker 1: or at least like he's not the one, but you
- 19:48Speaker 1: can get all caught up in that for sure. Yeah,
- 19:51Speaker 1: that like, oh, I'm the one that will be the
- 19:53Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure if I met a movie star
- 19:56Speaker 1: that I actually liked, right, I might get caught up,
- 20:00Speaker 1: not like douche guys and I'm like, you're a jerk.
- 20:02Speaker 1: I know you are. I'm paris about you, right, And
- 20:05Speaker 1: I do wish I wish I could have heard what
- 20:07Speaker 1: Carrie would have said. Yeah, she was like, don't get
- 20:09Speaker 1: out of there. I wish why right, And now we
- 20:14Speaker 1: have big and Carrie solidifying that I love you and
- 20:18Speaker 1: her whole reasoning nothing count before I love you, which
- 20:22Speaker 1: sounds awful because I'm like, it takes a long time
- 20:24Speaker 1: for me to get there anyway. Yeah, that's again, if
- 20:29Speaker 1: you've agreed on that, that's one thing. But they had it,
- 20:32Speaker 1: in my opinion, and I feel like in a relationship,
- 20:35Speaker 1: even if you haven't said I love you, doesn't mean
- 20:37Speaker 1: you can just make out with anyone, right, Although that
- 20:41Speaker 1: was kind of her petty vengeance to that party. It's
- 20:45Speaker 1: true still, but yeah, very problematic. Well we finished this
- 20:49Speaker 1: problematic episode. There'll be many more to come. Oh good,
- 20:54Speaker 1: excellent moves because it was chopped full of the unfortunately
- 21:01Speaker 1: because you know things have changed and hopefully we've grown
- 21:03Speaker 1: with it. But yes, so there it is. You got
- 21:06Speaker 1: ten points. You are not doing too well. No, but honestly,
- 21:10Speaker 1: I'll take the loss on that one night, I was
- 21:12Speaker 1: not going to do myself any favors. Well, listeners, we
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