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Do Women Get More Grace Than Men? Feat Kelly G and Lama · So Shameless

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  Speaker 1: We had a hug, that cheek-to-cheek hug.
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  Speaker 2: You met Erykah Badu.
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  Speaker 1: You know I've seen her 24 times live? You've seen
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  Speaker 1: her 24 times?
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  Speaker 2: That's my sister friend. You've seen her.
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  Speaker 1: More times than yesterday seeing Drake. Yeah, 24 times. She
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  Speaker 1: tours every year.
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  Speaker 3: Shout out to yesterday, wherever he is right now.
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  Speaker 1: I'm hoping he's okay. I'm surprised that nigga not in
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  Speaker 1: the Zoom. But shout out to you, Youngblood. He hurt
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  Speaker 1: his back. You know he likes big women and stuff.
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  Speaker 2: He like BBWs.
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  Speaker 1: Super big women.
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  Speaker 2: He would have loved me when I was a BBW.
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  Speaker 2: I'm on my way back there now, too.
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  Speaker 1: How big was you? What's your biggest?
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  Speaker 2: 319.
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  Speaker 1: I was shot. You was 320? You never saw me big? No,
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  Speaker 1: let me see. Yo, Tahoe, I was shot.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he put it in the Instagram.
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  Speaker 1: She look like one of those fat girls that took
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  Speaker 1: mad shit.
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  Speaker 2: But I was pretty. I was pretty.
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  Speaker 1: Being fat don't stop you from being pretty.
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  Speaker 4: Nah. Nah.
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  Speaker 3: But she like, she one of those that took mad shit.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome back to So Shameless Part 2. While Kelly finds.
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  Speaker 2: Her- Fat pictures.
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  Speaker 1: Inflated body pics. I was so shocked.
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  Speaker 3: We have Llama and Kelly G back here on the couch.
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  Speaker 1: We back, we back. I can't believe this nigga said
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  Speaker 1: he- Tron, how you feeling about this shit? I'm good, man.
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  Speaker 1: 24 times. Have you ever done something 24 times? Nah,
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  Speaker 1: I never seen no artist 24 times. Oh man, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I ain't going to hold you. You kind of fly.
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  Speaker 2: I wasn't even dressed up. I'm going to show you
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  Speaker 2: another picture of me dressed up. And I got more
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  Speaker 2: guys when I was big.
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  Speaker 1: You kind of fly.
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  Speaker 2: But I lost, I gained. Look at my whole other face.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, nah, you look like you suck good dick in
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  Speaker 1: that picture.
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  Speaker 5: Look.
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  Speaker 1: Look, yo, we got to put some of these pictures.
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  Speaker 2: So strong.
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  Speaker 1: Send me these pictures. We got to put some of
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  Speaker 1: these pictures in our Discord. She looks mad good.
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  Speaker 2: I started gaining weight now because I'm on steroids. Huh?
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  Speaker 1: Nothing, never mind.
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  Speaker 2: I've never had a butt.
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  Speaker 1: How'd you wipe your hair?
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  Speaker 2: I had a dude wipe. I wiped it because I
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  Speaker 2: wasn't into wearing nails and stuff.
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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 3: What am I going to do? What am I going
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  Speaker 3: to do?
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  Speaker 2: And this was me at my smallest. I was a zero.
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  Speaker 2: So when I lost all that weight, I went to
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  Speaker 2: a zero.
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  Speaker 1: Damn, what'd you do? You got to.
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  Speaker 2: No, I can't have lupus. They put me on a
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  Speaker 2: 600-calorie diet, so basically I starved all day.
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  Speaker 1: 600 calories?
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  Speaker 2: No, this was my smallest.
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  Speaker 1: I was a zero.
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  Speaker 3: Damn.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Damn. That's tough.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 3: We have a conversation from my boy Terry Roseland, and
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  Speaker 3: he spoke about when men give advice to women.
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  Speaker 1: Let me see. I think that's... I got it, y'all.
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  Speaker 1: I cracked the code.
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  Speaker 7: When a nigga is really your friend, your platonic friend,
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  Speaker 7: and he's not trying to play the long game and
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  Speaker 7: fuck later on down the line, he's not interacting with
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  Speaker 7: you like a woman.
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  Speaker 4: He's interacting with you like you're a man.
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  Speaker 7: When you come to him with some heartbroke shit, he's
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  Speaker 7: not on some, oh, you so beautiful.
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  Speaker 4: You don't deserve that.
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  Speaker 7: You're going to find a man that's going to treat
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  Speaker 7: you right and be a queen.
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  Speaker 1: He's not talking.
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  Speaker 7: That nigga is trying. That nigga want to fuck on
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  Speaker 7: the low. He might not pull it, but he want to.
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  Speaker 7: The nigga that's really your homie. The nigga that's really
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  Speaker 7: your homie is talking to you like a man. He's
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  Speaker 7: talking like, G, you dumb as hell. Like, you didn't
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  Speaker 7: went through all this with these other niggas and you
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  Speaker 7: couldn't see these red flags. I've been told your way. Like,
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  Speaker 7: you ain't peep this. You ain't peep that. Look, if
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  Speaker 7: you get a nigga another chance, that's your business. You
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  Speaker 7: can do what the fuck you want to do. But
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  Speaker 7: I'm telling you, you tweaking. You want some dumb shit
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  Speaker 7: right now. That's how a nigga going to talk to
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  Speaker 7: you when.
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  Speaker 4: He's really your friend.
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  Speaker 1: That's how you can tell.
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  Speaker 4: He's not buttering you. He's hitting you with straight, raw reality.
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  Speaker 7: He's not trying to make you feel good.
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  Speaker 1: He's trying to make you stop tweaking.
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  Speaker 4: That's the difference.
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  Speaker 1: I 100% agree. I'm like that for a lot of women. Yeah? Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Your friends? My friends, yeah. My homegirls, yeah. Are they
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  Speaker 1: outside of the five that you mentioned? No, no. Well,
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  Speaker 1: some of them, yeah, yeah. Some of them, yeah. The
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  Speaker 1: five that I mentioned is three guys, two girls. Kelly,
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  Speaker 1: do you have friends that you know want to actually fuck?
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  Speaker 1: All of them. All your friends want to be?
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  Speaker 2: All my homies. I mean, they flirt. We talk shit,
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  Speaker 2: but we know our boundaries.
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  Speaker 8: So who's curving who? I normally get curved if it
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  Speaker 8: was like that. and then we become friends, I normally
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  Speaker 8: get curved.
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  Speaker 1: You was trying, and then you just fell back.
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  Speaker 2: Nobody won't curve, because it's like, we'll talk shit enough
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  Speaker 2: that we know our boundaries, and then we could go
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  Speaker 2: back into talking about sports or whatever that regular shit
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  Speaker 2: that we talk about.
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  Speaker 1: I got one homegirl, I just can't accept the curve.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: She keep curving me, and I just can't accept it.
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  Speaker 9: Oh, no.
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  Speaker 8: She want to be friends, and I was like, nah,
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  Speaker 8: I'll leave that room for like, you never know.
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  Speaker 1: Where's your pride?
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Where's your dignity?
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  Speaker 1: Because I know she's young and dumb. Like, she's young
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  Speaker 1: and dumb. She don't know. That's why there's a bunch
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  Speaker 1: of 40-year-olds just desperately putting their pictures out there. Like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm single. I'm single.
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  Speaker 8: Because they waste all this time trying and trying. And
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  Speaker 8: I'm like, yo, look, I'm right here.
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  Speaker 1: I'm right here. And she don't get it.
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  Speaker 3: You think she's young and dumb, but she's curving you.
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  Speaker 3: And you continue to keep going back. But her reason
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  Speaker 3: for curving is not valid.
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  Speaker 2: What's her reason?
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  Speaker 1: She see me as a good friend. She don't want
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  Speaker 1: to mess up the relationship. She don't want you, bro.
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  Speaker 1: I know that.
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  Speaker 3: She don't want you. So when are you going to
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  Speaker 3: get it through your thick head to stop?
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  Speaker 8: When you get older, you get to a point where
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  Speaker 8: some of those values that you valued before don't matter.
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  Speaker 8: It's like, you're a good person.
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  Speaker 1: So you're waiting around? No, no, no. It's over now.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm just saying, I was that person.
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  Speaker 2: He was calling out every day.
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  Speaker 6: No, no.
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  Speaker 8: We had a good talk about it, like two hours recently,
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  Speaker 8: and now I'm over it.
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  Speaker 2: He was calling out like, we could go together today
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  Speaker 2: or every day.
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  Speaker 6: No, no, no.
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  Speaker 1: This is what happened.
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  Speaker 8: She curved me, and I accepted the L, right? I
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  Speaker 8: accepted the L, and then it got to a point
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  Speaker 8: where she was feeling me. And then once she did that,
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  Speaker 8: it opened up the doors again.
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  Speaker 2: You thought she was feeling you.
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  Speaker 1: No, she said it.
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  Speaker 2: She said it.
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  Speaker 1: And then it went back to curving me again. Yo,
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  Speaker 1: this not embarrassing? No. You should say it out loud
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  Speaker 1: on the show, and you know we going to clip it.
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  Speaker 1: I don't care. She going to see it, and she
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  Speaker 1: going to call me messy. And you don't mind? Nah,
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  Speaker 1: this is the problem.
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  Speaker 2: You ever had like someone that you was friends with
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  Speaker 2: and maybe just that night y'all fucked and y'all just
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  Speaker 2: went back to being like friends and y'all never looked
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  Speaker 2: at each other like that no more?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, never. Yeah, never.
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  Speaker 2: Nah, nigga, because once you fuck, you gonna always want
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  Speaker 2: to fuck. That's why you have to be careful about
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  Speaker 2: fucking your friends.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't even tell that story.
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  Speaker 2: But I want a guy like, I want anybody that
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  Speaker 2: I'm with to be brutally honest like that.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's me. That's true.
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  Speaker 2: Even in a relationship.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want nobody patting my back telling me, nah,
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  Speaker 2: tell me the truth.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: You look crazy. Yeah, that's true.
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  Speaker 2: Don't ever do that shit again.
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  Speaker 8: I have this homegirl who's a detective in real life.
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  Speaker 8: but she can't detect shit in her relationships. And I'd
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  Speaker 8: be like, yo, like.
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  Speaker 2: Lava, you brought the police around. I gotta stay away.
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  Speaker 1: Can't detect shit in her relationships. What does that mean?
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  Speaker 1: She good at her job, but in the relationships, it's like,
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  Speaker 1: she dumb. She can't see about, because women be dickmatized. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I guess.
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  Speaker 9: That reminds me of people that give good advice, but
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  Speaker 9: they like this part.
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  Speaker 2: It's always like that.
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  Speaker 8: I was like, yo, I'm like, damn, she get all
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  Speaker 8: these medals for her job and everything. I'm like, But
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  Speaker 8: her real life Over I have to like Slowly say
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  Speaker 8: stuff Like did you hear yourself Did.
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  Speaker 2: You I'm like that Yeah I'm always giving My friends
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  Speaker 2: advice They're married All my friends are married They have
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  Speaker 2: stability In they life And here I am In a
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  Speaker 2: fucking Boring ass room With nobody Giving them all this
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  Speaker 2: advice And it's like I hang up the phone And
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  Speaker 2: then cry Cause nobody I have nobody To give me.
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  Speaker 3: Advice Yeah You have people To give you advice I
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  Speaker 3: just don't You used to call me I know So
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  Speaker 3: what are you talking about?
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  Speaker 2: You know, I have my times.
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  Speaker 1: You be going through it.
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  Speaker 2: I go through it a lot.
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  Speaker 1: You be going through it. What is the thing that
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  Speaker 1: be like behind your emotional shifts?
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  Speaker 2: I just being treated fairly. Like that bothers me.
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  Speaker 1: You don't like being treated fairly?
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  Speaker 2: I like being, I feel like not enough, the world
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  Speaker 2: doesn't treat people fairly. Like, you know? I'm like a
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  Speaker 2: humanitarian deep down inside. Like, you know I'm not tough. Like,
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  Speaker 2: I talk like it. But I'm a, you know. I
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  Speaker 2: done came in the studio crying. You're a girl.
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  Speaker 4: You're a girl.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a female.
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  Speaker 1: No, you're a girl. No, female is one thing. That's,
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  Speaker 1: anything can be a female.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm a girl.
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  Speaker 1: You're a girl. But you don't come off like a girl.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not a girl's girl, though. Fuck these bitches. Let
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  Speaker 2: me let you know that. But I'm a girl.
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  Speaker 1: Feelings-wise, you're emotional.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm very emotional.
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  Speaker 1: And you're a mom.
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  Speaker 2: So everything gets to me.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 2: But I want honesty.
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  Speaker 1: What's your sign, Kelly? Libra.
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  Speaker 2: My birthday was the 6th.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, that's right. And it's crazy. She come in, all
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  Speaker 1: these problems, and the cameras come on, Kelly G. Kelly G. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You mask your pain. Like, I mask my pain. And
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  Speaker 2: there's nothing wrong with that.
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  Speaker 1: I hate when people say- How much pain are you
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  Speaker 1: carrying around, though?
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  Speaker 2: My whole life.
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  Speaker 1: But how do you get rid of it?
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  Speaker 2: I don't. My pain will never go away.
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  Speaker 1: So you don't think that that's- kind of eating away
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  Speaker 1: at you?
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  Speaker 2: I feel like it makes me better at what I do.
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  Speaker 1: The pain?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Why?
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  Speaker 2: Because I always have a feeling to feel, and I'm
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  Speaker 2: able to talk about it, you know? It's like... But
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  Speaker 2: you can't sacrifice your humanity.
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  Speaker 1: For your craft. Yeah, but... You're.
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  Speaker 3: Like, yo, I'm using it, so it's good for me
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  Speaker 3: to keep it.
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  Speaker 2: It's not that I'm using it, it's that I don't, like,
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  Speaker 2: no matter who I talk to, my pain is not
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  Speaker 2: going to go away, because my problems still exist. You
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  Speaker 2: get it?
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  Speaker 1: You have a therapist?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I went to... That shit don't work with fucking therapy.
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  Speaker 2: I end up giving them therapy sessions.
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  Speaker 5: Like....
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  Speaker 2: I think it's deeper than.
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  Speaker 1: It's deeper than the therapy thing.
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  Speaker 2: It's like real life. It's real life. But when I
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  Speaker 2: get behind the camera, that takes away everything for that moment.
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  Speaker 1: That's an escape.
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  Speaker 3: When you don the character of Kelly G, of the
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  Speaker 3: drill fairy, you get to get away from the real
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  Speaker 3: life shit that you got going on.
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  Speaker 2: But nobody would never see my pain. That's the crazy thing.
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  Speaker 2: Nobody would never see it.
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  Speaker 1: Not nobody. I've seen it.
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  Speaker 8: Unless you put it on Patreon. I'll turn the cameras
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  Speaker 8: on when she first comes in.
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  Speaker 2: If I let you see it. If I let you
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  Speaker 2: see it.
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  Speaker 1: Put it on Patreon.
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  Speaker 2: But nobody will.
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  Speaker 1: But it's just amazing how she snaps it. The fucking
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  Speaker 1: Kelly G show.
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  Speaker 2: Because in this business, nothing can't bother you.
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  Speaker 1: You can't let nothing get to you.
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  Speaker 5: I agree.
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  Speaker 1: You can't. I agree.
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  Speaker 2: And you can't show weakness.
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  Speaker 1: You can't show weakness.
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  Speaker 2: My mother always taught me, no matter what, you can't
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  Speaker 2: show weakness. The moment you show weakness, you a victim.
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  Speaker 1: What's the difference between vulnerability and weakness?
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  Speaker 2: I feel like it's okay to be vulnerable at times.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody is allowed to be vulnerable. Can't be weak. You
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  Speaker 2: cannot be weak.
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  Speaker 8: What's the difference? Well, I was vulnerable with this situation, right?
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  Speaker 8: Vulnerable to me is- But am I weak? I'm not
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  Speaker 8: weak because I didn't allow somebody to take control of
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  Speaker 8: the situation.
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  Speaker 1: Are you dead ass right now?
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  Speaker 3: I'm just saying, that's a vulnerable moment for me. You're
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  Speaker 3: dead ass going back to this story again.
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  Speaker 8: I had to give an example because I'm like, I
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  Speaker 8: could have been weak. but I was vulnerable but not weak.
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  Speaker 8: I was like standing up for myself.
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  Speaker 2: Because you could be vulnerable and be a strong ass person,
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  Speaker 2: but just at that moment, you're being vulnerable.
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  Speaker 9: I think being vulnerable is about taking a risk.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 9: The same way as an entrepreneur, you take a risk
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  Speaker 9: with your bread. Like sometimes you got to take a
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  Speaker 9: risk with your relationships, with your heart.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 9: In order to gain anything, you got to be a
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  Speaker 9: little vulnerable.
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  Speaker 1: Right. But being weak, that's something different. Yeah, that's something different.
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  Speaker 8: Unless somebody take over your situation, take over your.
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  Speaker 1: Proud or whatever, yeah.
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  Speaker 9: Lama.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, go ahead. You good? Lama's flat and I feel it.
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  Speaker 1: This nigga can't wait.
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  Speaker 3: Because after I get out of here, I got to
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  Speaker 3: hit him with some stuff. He's going right on to
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  Speaker 3: close friends. The minute he gets out of here, and
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  Speaker 3: another thing.
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  Speaker 2: He's going to be like, and another thing. Kelly is weak.
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  Speaker 1: No, I left it alone.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, that's... I'm going to play a series of videos.
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  Speaker 3: Let's talk about the first one. Let's see where it goes.
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  Speaker 3: And then a connecting topic. This is going to be
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  Speaker 3: the bread and butter of this episode, I think. I think,
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  Speaker 3: let's see.
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  Speaker 6: Ask a little girl, tell me some things that are
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  Speaker 6: great about being a girl. Anything she says is the
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  Speaker 6: right answer. If she says, I'm smart, you say, that's right,
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  Speaker 6: girls are smart. And if you say, I'm strong, that's right,
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  Speaker 6: girls are strong, aren't they? If you ask a little boy,
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  Speaker 6: Tell me what's good about being a boy. Anything he
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  Speaker 6: says is a hate crime. If he says I'm strong,
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  Speaker 6: girls are strong too. What do you mean girls aren't strong?
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  Speaker 4: Why would you say that? That's not a boy trait.
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  Speaker 4: Girls are just as strong as boys.
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  Speaker 6: Well, I'm smart. Are you saying girls aren't smart? But
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  Speaker 6: when girls say this... if you say to a girl,
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  Speaker 6: what's good about being a girl, anything she says, like
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  Speaker 6: if a girl says.
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  Speaker 4: I'm smart, you go, well, boys are smart too. That's
• 13:38
  Speaker 4: not what we say.
• 13:39
  Speaker 6: Now, again, this is a natural reaction to the fact
• 13:41
  Speaker 6: that for many, many years, women were absolutely held back
• 13:44
  Speaker 6: in Western culture. A hundred percent, like a hundred percent.
• 13:47
  Speaker 6: They still are, by the way, like we still have
• 13:49
  Speaker 6: like the American Taliban happening around here. Like, you don't
• 13:52
  Speaker 6: believe me? Go to some of the Hasidic communities right now,
• 13:55
  Speaker 6: like where women don't have driver's licenses and they're not
• 13:57
  Speaker 6: allowed to, you know, like, And then tell me how.
• 14:01
  Speaker 4: Progressive we're doing.
• 14:03
  Speaker 6: Spend a little less time worrying about if Sabrina Carpenter
• 14:05
  Speaker 6: is properly liberated and spend a little more time looking
• 14:08
  Speaker 6: at what's going on at Kira COL in Orange County.
• 14:10
  Speaker 6: That's what's going on in the world, and that's where
• 14:13
  Speaker 6: we would be focusing our energy if we were really
• 14:15
  Speaker 6: concerned about the plight of women. But fundamentally, what we're
• 14:20
  Speaker 6: really looking at here is just that we've convinced men
• 14:25
  Speaker 6: that almost anything they do, they're doing it wrong.
• 14:28
  Speaker 4: And that's really, really unfair and they don't know what
• 14:30
  Speaker 4: to do with that. And what are the consequences of that?
• 14:33
  Speaker 4: They're angry. Ask a little girl, tell me some things
• 14:37
  Speaker 4: that are great.
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: Why did they have to bring Sabrina Carpenter? She's my
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: favorite artist.
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: And you have her on your show.
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: I love her.
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: That's her on your show.
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: My goal, my dream is to interview her. I love her.
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: I love what she, she doesn't give a fuck. She
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: does the same thing men do. Like she's staying on business.
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: Every male dies in all her videos.
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: She kills them off?
• 14:59
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: If you know Sabrina Carpenter, I think she is, she's
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: so fire. She's so amazing. I love her. And people
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: don't like that. Sometimes I have to hide that I
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: like pop music and I don't always listen to rap music.
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: And it's okay to listen to other ethnicities. And it's
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: okay to like, sometimes I feel like I be judged
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: because I like white people. Like what the fuck is
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: wrong with that? Why can't I like white people?
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: Oh, liking them.
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like what's wrong with having white friends and hanging
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: out with I don't mind. I listen to white music.
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: I listen to pop music. I listen to rock music.
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: What's wrong with that?
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: Do you let them say nigga?
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: I would fuck them up. They can't say nigga around me,
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: but they wouldn't, because you know why? I would say
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: nigga around my peoples, but I would never say nigga
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: around those people. That's the difference.
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: That's a fact. That's a fact.
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: I would never. I barely curse because they already look
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: at us. No matter how much we like them, they're
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: already judging us. It doesn't matter who. Can't give them
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: nothing to judge.
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: When you say you like white people, what do you
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: like about them?
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: I'm mainly talking about their music. Let's talk about their music.
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: You said hanging out, being with them, breaking bread, inviting
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: them to your barbecues.
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: No, they're not coming to my, well, they, no, no, no, no, no.
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: A white person never stepped foot in my house because
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: the white people that I talk about being around is
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: in the music, it's entertainment, it's creators. I don't pick
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: up the phone and call Nancy. I don't do that.
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: I don't have no, like I would never take property advice.
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: I spoke to Conor today on the phone. I swear
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: to God, I spoke to Conor today. He's the one person,
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: I had a whole black garage. He's the one person
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: I talk to now. from the black garage that I left.
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying we're going to be friends.
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: We saw each other as human beings. He spoke on
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: black issues before I spoke on them. And I don't
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: think he was being performative. It was just like he
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: was tapped into certain shit. That's how he chose to
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: live his life. And I fucked with it. I fucked
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: with it.
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: And I don't think he was being performative.
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: So, if I'm going to say I like a white person,
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: there are people that I know that I could close
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: my eyes around them when they're around other white people
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: and they still gonna defend me.
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: Because that's the biggest problem. I think the environments that
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: I live in, I never had a... It wasn't a
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: reason to have a lot of white friends.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: Exactly. I agree. But I think we need them as
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: allies today. We do.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: Okay, so my son is 14 and a lot of
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: people don't understand the fact that I let him be him.
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: He goes to a school with this predominantly... Whites and Hispanics.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: And people are like, you don't let him know who
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: he is. And I'm like, I do. But I let
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: him be free of who he is. And that's what matters.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: It's not about him knowing who he is. He wakes
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: up every day and look in the mirror and knows
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: he's a little brown boy. He already knows who he is.
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: There's nothing wrong with that. You know, I let him
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: be friends with whoever treats him good. That's what matters.
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: Do you educate him about the dangers though?
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: Like say you got the Nolan Wells situation.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: I educate him about that.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: Did you sit down with him? He asked me.
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: About the Nolan Wells situation. I sit and talk to them.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: I let them watch documentaries. They know they pro-black. They
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: know who they are. But they also know that my
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: father's Jewish. So there's a whole nother side of me too.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: Whatever I am there.
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: But when you say Jewish, is there.
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: Do y'all look at it as a difference between what's
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: happening across seas over there and Jewish here?
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: Because there's black Jews. There's several black Jews.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: Well, my dad is from the Ukrainian.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: Okay. Yeah.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: So I did Ancestry. I did that. I didn't do
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: that when I was here before. So I did Ancestry.com
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: and it says I'm 50% Jewish.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: It said Jewish?
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll show you.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: I didn't even know Jewish was in there.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: That's what I said. I said I thought it was
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: a religion. I thought it was a religion.
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: No, no.
• 19:05
  Speaker 9: So it's a race. And they don't consider themselves white.
• 19:08
  Speaker 9: They're Caucasian, but they don't consider themselves white. So there's
• 19:11
  Speaker 9: a difference between white and Caucasian.
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: And it says Ukrainian. The original Jews. That's what they...
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: So my family, last name is Pepper.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: Kelly P.
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: So.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: Kelly P is nuts.
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: Tron, how did they make the difference between white and Caucasian?
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: I don't understand.
• 19:32
  Speaker 9: Because, like we said, race, they consider Jewish to be
• 19:36
  Speaker 9: a race. They were segregated against, or, excuse me, oppressed
• 19:42
  Speaker 9: in Europe by European whites, right? Now, us as black folks,
• 19:48
  Speaker 9: we look at them... all they white people but there's
• 19:52
  Speaker 9: a difference between Caucasian people and Eastern European white people
• 19:57
  Speaker 9: you know what I mean you know.
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: What's funny I was working today and the doorman started
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: helping us throw the stuff in the back of the
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: truck and somehow Maine came up the place the state
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: and he was like yeah it's a good place But
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: he was like, but they wouldn't like us. He's a
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: white guy.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: That's crazy. Yeah, that's crazy. But you got Ivory Coast
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: and Ghana.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: But that's my mother. So my mother's Jamaican. Remember, I
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: was adopted. So my mother's Jamaican. And when you click
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: on it, it'll say Jamaica. But Jamaica is mixed up
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: with a whole bunch of things. But you see the green,
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: 50% Jewish. And when I look at the origins, it
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: says Ukrainian.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: Nice.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: Crazy.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: Crazy.
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: So he mentioned, so he was like, they wouldn't like
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: us in Maine. And I'm like, well, you mean us?
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: Cause I'm black and you clearly white. And so I
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: was like, where you from?
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: Which maybe he's, I don't know. I don't know.
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: And he was like, basically Ukraine or something like that.
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: And I was like, so why wouldn't they like you?
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: You white.
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: And he was like, they only want americans they want
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: at this specific the pure jean blue eye blonde hair
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: like me i'd be looked like as a mutt up
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: there and they would if you wasn't around they'd oppress
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: me instead oh.
• 21:15
  Speaker 9: Wow like eastern europeans are looked at different than western
• 21:20
  Speaker 9: like niggas from Serbia and all of them, they're not
• 21:24
  Speaker 9: looked at as the same as people from England and
• 21:27
  Speaker 9: Italy and France. They're oppressed in some regards as well.
• 21:33
  Speaker 9: White people will always do this.
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: The master race, they will always try to do the
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: ethnic cleansing when it comes to everybody else that isn't them.
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: They're like a virus. They're like a virus. To get
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: back on that topic though, What was it? The girls
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: are right and boys are not.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: I forgot. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 21:55
  Speaker 8: I 100% agree with him because we're always getting pushback.
• 21:59
  Speaker 8: We say anything, especially you see it on social media
• 22:01
  Speaker 8: all day. It's always pushback. And with the women's side,
• 22:05
  Speaker 8: it's like they call each other the B word and all.
• 22:07
  Speaker 8: They get away with everything. And let us say something.
• 22:12
  Speaker 8: You want to call them bitches?
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: Huh? You want to have the right to call them bitches?
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: No.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: You can call him. You're just so shameless. You can
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: say it right now. I don't use that word. You
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: don't say bitch? Say it.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: You dirty bitch.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: I might stutter. Just say it. You sound like you would. Nah.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: Can't do that. I don't use that word.
• 22:28
  Speaker 9: But I understand what you're saying, but sometimes we got
• 22:30
  Speaker 9: to be careful because when he started talking, he kind
• 22:35
  Speaker 9: of ended it in a good way, but he started talking,
• 22:38
  Speaker 9: the first thing I'm thinking of, he's speaking from white
• 22:40
  Speaker 9: man privilege.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's true too.
• 22:42
  Speaker 9: So it's like, oh yeah, y'all get to say everything
• 22:44
  Speaker 9: in there. You know, poor me. Like, and I could see, like,
• 22:48
  Speaker 9: in America, a lot of comedians do that, too. Like,
• 22:51
  Speaker 9: white comedians, like, oh, we can't say nothing. We can't say,
• 22:54
  Speaker 9: do nothing. Like, a straight white man can't do or
• 22:59
  Speaker 9: say anything. Like, okay, but. The other side of that
• 23:05
  Speaker 9: is y'all have oppressed everybody else. Y'all own everything. And
• 23:10
  Speaker 9: y'all have all these systems to keep everybody else down.
• 23:13
  Speaker 9: So I think it's a fair tradeoff.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
• 23:15
  Speaker 9: Like, all right, you still going to complain because you
• 23:17
  Speaker 9: can't do the shit that these oppressed people could do?
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: I saw that there was a company, and I don't
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: know if it's a popular company, is trying to do
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: a program to help, I think, 200, black scholarships or
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: something like that for black people. And the government is
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: investigating the company because it's going against DEI. It's like,
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: you cannot treat black people more special than everybody else.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: You can't. It's illegal right now in this country to
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: do that. That's crazy. We are so behind.
• 23:45
  Speaker 9: Crazy.
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: They're literally investigating the company. And I'm like, yo, that's
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: fucking nuts, bro.
• 23:54
  Speaker 9: And the people that think like that don't even understand
• 23:56
  Speaker 9: the history of why DEI even exists. It's like, It's
• 24:00
  Speaker 9: human nature to put on your people. If I got
• 24:03
  Speaker 9: a black... If we formed a company right now and
• 24:06
  Speaker 9: we about to hire people and a black girl come
• 24:09
  Speaker 9: in here and two white girls, we're going to be like...
• 24:12
  Speaker 9: You know what I mean? We're going to automatically have favoritism.
• 24:15
  Speaker 9: And that's just how the world works. So when the
• 24:17
  Speaker 9: white men are in power and making the decisions, they're clearly...
• 24:21
  Speaker 9: not even going to look at certain black people that
• 24:24
  Speaker 9: are qualified. The whole purpose of DEI is so you
• 24:27
  Speaker 9: look at other qualified applicants. It's not even about applicants
• 24:32
  Speaker 9: that aren't qualified. It's like you have to take the
• 24:35
  Speaker 9: filters out of people's... Because we're humans at the end
• 24:38
  Speaker 9: of the day. So it's like the people that don't
• 24:41
  Speaker 9: understand why there's systems in place to specifically give black
• 24:46
  Speaker 9: folks opportunities because... The opposite has been happening for so
• 24:49
  Speaker 9: long and still happens. It's like, yo, you need balance.
• 24:52
  Speaker 9: That's what equity is.
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: When it comes to women and men as of right now,
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: do you not think that women are giving a bigger
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: edge right now than men?
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: For the same reasons. Go ahead, Kelly. Equity, go.
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: Ahead.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: I mean, men are always going to be more glorified
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: than women to me.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: In what way?
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: By who? Maybe I'm just talking about within my community
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: as far as us with sports.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: With money.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: Unfair wages and shit like that.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: Ownership. Even being an entrepreneur. People always look for men
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: more than women. I just feel like that's how it is.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: Even in the business, the music business. men are always
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: more glorified than women.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: I got another clip.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: And I'm okay with that. Like, it is what it
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: is because I'm not bitter. Only a bitter female would
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: feel that type of way. But that stigma has been
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: going on forever, even in politics. It's like, so that
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: shit he said, like, we knew this already.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: Like, you know?
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: That he's saying that they're building up women because women
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: have been put down for so long. So you want
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: to establish... a certain amount of pride in being a woman.
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: You want a certain amount of strength in being a woman.
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: And you have to break the genetic drip from how
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: women were treated before into this young child, into this
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: young girl, and say, yes, you are smart.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: Yes, you are strong. Yes, you are.
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: Other than that, you might take on too much of
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: what was happening before you and your family, and it
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: just continues to cycle.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: That shit comes from within, though. Like, society can't teach
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: you that. That shit has to be... That's not true.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: I feel like that has to be taught within your household.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: You just said that you're teaching your kids this. Right.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: Within your household. It has to be taught within your
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: household so when they get out into the real world,
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: they will already know that feeling and know what to
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: do and know how they're being looked upon.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: I'm going to play this and see if it connects.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: I thought it connected. I'm not sure. We went a
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: lot of places with this last time. So let's see.
• 27:03
  Speaker 10: Being a nice guy is only a good thing if
• 27:05
  Speaker 10: she likes you, bro. If she doesn't like you, it's
• 27:08
  Speaker 10: annoying as hell.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: Uh-huh.
• 27:10
  Speaker 11: Ooh, I wish he would stop calling me.
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: Yes, exactly. For sure.
• 27:15
  Speaker 10: Being a nice guy doesn't matter if she.
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: Doesn't like you.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: Actually, you know what? Nothing matters if she doesn't like you. No.
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: Dumb flowers you sent? Thanks. And can I tell you
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: what that originates from?
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: I know what you're going to say.
• 27:29
  Speaker 10: Which is the difference between, it's a huge difference between
• 27:32
  Speaker 10: men and women.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: Sort of.
• 27:33
  Speaker 10: I feel like women are raised to think that treating
• 27:38
  Speaker 10: someone like a human being or with respect is subjective.
• 27:41
  Speaker 10: And it only applies to people they like. Because little girls,
• 27:46
  Speaker 10: if a little boy doesn't like them, I mean, if
• 27:48
  Speaker 10: a little boy likes them and they don't like that
• 27:50
  Speaker 10: little boy, they can treat him like he's invisible. And
• 27:54
  Speaker 10: what they're going to tell that little boy is, look,
• 27:57
  Speaker 10: she doesn't have to speak to you. Whereas on the
• 27:59
  Speaker 10: other end, little boys are taught to respect every and
• 28:03
  Speaker 10: anyone if a little girl likes a little boy and
• 28:06
  Speaker 10: he's mean to her it's like you don't have to
• 28:08
  Speaker 10: be mean to her just because you don't like her
• 28:10
  Speaker 10: i don't.
• 28:11
  Speaker 12: Think that's true i think that it would feel like
• 28:15
  Speaker 12: you feel it invisible to that girl because she's not
• 28:17
  Speaker 12: giving you any attention so yes everything is appreciated i
• 28:21
  Speaker 12: feel like girls like things you like me and you're
• 28:23
  Speaker 12: giving me things thank you thank you thank you that's.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: Not true no that's not what he's saying no.
• 28:28
  Speaker 12: No no but it was like treating them differently once
• 28:32
  Speaker 12: you don't like them and it's not that we're treating
• 28:34
  Speaker 12: you anyway we're just not giving you the energy that
• 28:37
  Speaker 12: you want because you're not interested listen listen to you
• 28:40
  Speaker 12: feel invisible no i'm not treating you as you're.
• 28:43
  Speaker 10: Listen to what we just said listen to what listen
• 28:45
  Speaker 10: hold on he's talking about but listen to what we
• 28:49
  Speaker 10: just said listen listen to what we just said we
• 28:53
  Speaker 10: and and you guys agreed to this right being a
• 28:56
  Speaker 10: nice guy only matters if she likes you doesn't mean
• 28:59
  Speaker 10: that he's still not being just as nice, but it's
• 29:01
  Speaker 10: annoying as hell. And she is going to basically ignore
• 29:05
  Speaker 10: you and not acknowledge nothing that you do for her
• 29:08
  Speaker 10: because she does not like you. So what I'm telling
• 29:11
  Speaker 10: you is, yes, women, unless they like a man or
• 29:15
  Speaker 10: unless it benefits them in some way, do not acknowledge.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: Hey, guys, have you enjoyed that clip?
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: I'm on the guy side.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: I mean.
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: I'm on.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: The guy side. When aren't you, bro?
• 29:25
  Speaker 8: Because, like... These girls be screenshotting. They text threads all
• 29:29
  Speaker 8: the time. The guy's like, good morning. They'll beg that
• 29:32
  Speaker 8: from the guy they like. But the guy that's doing
• 29:34
  Speaker 8: that to her.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: He's annoying.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: And they'll be like, yeah, look at this nigga. Like
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: the 20-year-old you're trying to get after. Or the young girl.
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: Not the 20-year-old, but the young girl. You said she
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: was younger and dumb, and you kept trying to talk
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: to her. You're probably annoying as shit.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah. You're right.
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: You're probably annoying as shit, whereas another chick, the other
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: one that tried to take you out and you didn't
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: want to pay for the meal.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: Come on.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: And I get what... And she's saying, because I'm a mom,
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: so I have boys. So sometimes my son be like, ma,
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: she mad annoying. She won't leave me alone. She keep
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: trying to say good morning. And I'm like, oh, she's
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: a female.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: Just leave her.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: She probably like you. So I understand, you know, that's.
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: But it's literally about the way that women can change
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: how they are as human beings, depending on how they
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: feel about you. Like men, we can't just treat. Yo,
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: I was saying this the last week, Tron.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: Mm-mm.
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: I'm in the club, I'm standing there, and a chick
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: literally puts her hand on me and moves me out
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: the way. And on the way past says, excuse me,
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: but not to my face, like as like a, get
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: out the way. You know what I'm saying?
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: Excuse me.
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: And keep, I'm like, yo, you could just push me
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: and imagine if I did that to her. Imagine, man,
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: we have to have a certain, but this goes back
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: to what you were saying to me, Charm, just now,
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: when you was like, it sounds like white privilege.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: Sounds like male privilege. Sometimes you just gotta let it slide.
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: There is women privilege. Women get away with more. It's sad.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: It's sad. I feel like that.
• 31:08
  Speaker 9: To an extent, what might be at play here is
• 31:12
  Speaker 9: men are usually the aggressors in relationships or trying to
• 31:17
  Speaker 9: bag a chick or whatever. I feel like girls can't
• 31:22
  Speaker 9: be nice all the time they you know what i
• 31:24
  Speaker 9: mean it's almost like a prey and predator relationship like
• 31:28
  Speaker 9: you can't be too nice if you're the one being
• 31:31
  Speaker 9: um approached so often like you know what i mean.
• 31:38
  Speaker 8: I mean ah it's like hit or miss because they're
• 31:41
  Speaker 8: not doing that to everybody woman ain't doing that to
• 31:44
  Speaker 8: everybody They pick and choose what they want to do.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: Who they like. That's what he's trying to say.
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: No, it's in general.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: It's in general. Sometimes they can look at you and
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: know how they can treat you. Nah, niggas is dickheads.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: That's what it is. Yeah, like, I'm a female.
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: Now that I think about it, women can't be nice
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: because niggas don't know how to leave women alone.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: That too.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: Like you, Llama.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: Nah, I believe you. Exactly.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: Like the girl.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: I left her alone. Imagine it.
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: How many times a chick was nice to you and
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: you thought, I might be able to beat because she
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: was nice to you?
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: Nah, I don't think like that no more. I have.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: But you have. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We have.
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: A lot of men.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: Just because she's nice. Yo, oh shit. If I play
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: this right, I might be able to beat. But she
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: was just trying to be nice.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: Like a good morning text.
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: Imagine being at the bar. She's nice to the nigga
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: at the bar. For whatever reason, the nigga's now hovering.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, she's flirting. She's flirting.
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: She cannot enjoy herself because this nigga's trying to put
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: dick in her.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: So it's just different. You feel what I'm saying? Like, yeah.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: That's true. I'm starting to... Yeah, nice comes with repercussions
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: for women. You know what I mean? It can't be that.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: That's why you got to give a little. Just got
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: to give a little niceness. Because just because I said
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: good morning to you in the morning does not mean
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: we meeting up later.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: If you say good morning to me first, I'm going
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: to think you went far.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: And that's crazy.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: Especially if you nice about it. Like, tone is something.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: Good morning. That's how I got crab legs.
• 33:07
  Speaker 8: So if I say good morning and good morning, you're
• 33:09
  Speaker 8: going to think, oh yeah, she on me?
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: That's how the girl got me for the crab legs.
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: I was too nice. How she got you? What? Because
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: she thought I was on a date. I was too nice.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: So me being nice.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: Even what about prior to the date?
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: On the phone.
• 33:24
  Speaker 8: I liked the picture. And she took that as, yo,
• 33:26
  Speaker 8: this nigga's feeling me.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: What?
• 33:28
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: This is what he's going to offer. Meanwhile, they knew
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: each other. They knew each other.
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: This nigga is nuts. She thought it was a date.
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: This nigga, Kelly, this nigga is nuts.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: It's your friend.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: I don't know if I want to hook you up
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: with my friend. I don't know about that.
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: We need to rewind to that episode. But yeah, you
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: can't be nice to everybody.
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: But I feel like as men, you guys can't be
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: too nice to women too because women take advantage of
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: that shit. I'm a female. Got him.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: It's over.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: Now you're my little pet.
• 34:00
  Speaker 8: Can you drive me home? They won't tell you where
• 34:02
  Speaker 8: they live. And you'll be 90 miles. God damn, me
• 34:05
  Speaker 8: being nice.
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: It'll be stuff like that.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: I would never act. I don't know. I feel like
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: if I'm out with a male or anywhere and he
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: got a car and he knows I have to go
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: home eventually, I'm never asking a guy to drop me home.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: That should just be like something he should know that
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: he has to do as a male, especially if I'm
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: hanging out with you.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: I think I'm a trigger, y'all. I want a trigger, y'all.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: Let's do it. Are you ready for this?
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: Don't get too serious. Well, y'all can get serious. Because
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: I don't know where y'all going to go.
• 34:36
  Speaker 11: If I have my ass out on the street, like,
• 34:38
  Speaker 11: there's a very high likelihood that I'm going to get assaulted.
• 34:41
  Speaker 11: If you walk around with your ass out, who the
• 34:43
  Speaker 11: fuck is assaulting you?
• 34:43
  Speaker 7: So, with that in mind, that y'all have a higher
• 34:46
  Speaker 7: chance of something happening to you, wouldn't it make more
• 34:49
  Speaker 7: sense to cover it up?
• 34:49
  Speaker 11: No, I don't think you change the victim. I think
• 34:51
  Speaker 11: you change the criminal. Like, you're not teaching victims to
• 34:54
  Speaker 11: be better victims.
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: You think you're going to change a great bitch?
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: I think you can.
• 34:57
  Speaker 11: I think if, literally, if men took a.
• 35:02
  Speaker 11: I shouldn't have to change my clothes for you. Like,
• 35:05
  Speaker 11: men should be able to have self-fucking control.
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: It's basically about her not wearing certain things that's provocative.
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: And she's like, no, I shouldn't have to do that.
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: Y'all should just not grape people.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: What do y'all think? I mean, that's next level to
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: go that far up.
• 35:25
  Speaker 8: But if I see a girl with her ass out,
• 35:27
  Speaker 8: it's going to send signs like, is she a you
• 35:31
  Speaker 8: know a sex worker or like I'm thinking other things
• 35:34
  Speaker 8: not to grape no no.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: I'm thinking like is she selling.
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: No is she we're talking about people that are victimized oh.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: Oh that and wearing.
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: Certain shit that's super provocative yeah and men saying yo
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: you can't wear certain shit oh men selling them because
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: it's gonna make The niggas that do great, but the
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: niggas that are sexually harassing women, more prone to come
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: after you.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: They got to control themselves.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: I feel like you could be great for anything, no
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: matter how you look. That's what I feel.
• 36:09
  Speaker 9: But you don't think it's an increased chance?
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: It is way bigger because if I'm a guy and
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: even if I see a girl walking down a block
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: like that, I'm going to already think she's a certain
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: type of way.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: And men are visual.
• 36:21
  Speaker 9: You're going to be stimulated by seeing the cheeks.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 36:25
  Speaker 9: So, I mean, they both got points, but I feel
• 36:27
  Speaker 9: like it's kind of like covering up.
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: She's like, well, I shouldn't have to.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 36:33
  Speaker 9: But shouldn't have to don't mean you can't be street smart. Like.
• 36:37
  Speaker 9: I'm not going anywhere with a chain out.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 36:40
  Speaker 9: Like, I remember I used to tuck my chain in
• 36:42
  Speaker 9: if I'm, you know.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: In Brownsville.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: Exactly. Right.
• 36:45
  Speaker 9: I'm somewhere where I'm like, all right, you know, I
• 36:47
  Speaker 9: shouldn't have all this polo on or whatever. Like, it's
• 36:49
  Speaker 9: just street smart. It shouldn't be like, well, I shouldn't
• 36:52
  Speaker 9: have to do this.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 36:53
  Speaker 9: But I mean, it's like how you, you got to
• 36:55
  Speaker 9: know how to move and you got to, and there's
• 36:57
  Speaker 9: certain functions where you could go to and be sexy.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 37:01
  Speaker 9: And you're not going to be looked at as a prostitute.
• 37:03
  Speaker 9: It could be like a high class club. It could
• 37:06
  Speaker 9: be a dope event. It could be a fucking gala,
• 37:09
  Speaker 9: a gala, excuse me. And you got a nice dress on,
• 37:12
  Speaker 9: but you showing cleavage or whatever, but wear something to
• 37:15
  Speaker 9: cover it up on the way there.
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Understand?
• 37:19
  Speaker 9: Like if you getting on a train, you don't go
• 37:21
  Speaker 9: on the train looking. However, cause you got to go
• 37:24
  Speaker 9: through all the elements in the neighborhoods to get to
• 37:26
  Speaker 9: the nice place where when you get there, your outfit
• 37:28
  Speaker 9: is fine, but you got to be street smart.
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: Kelly, do you, do you, Do you think that women
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: should be able to wear whatever they want?
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like.
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: And never have to think about how that might.
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: I feel like women should. And that goes back to
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: saying men always have more like.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: Freedom.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: Freedom than women. Because why are you telling me I
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: got to cover up? Because if I don't, there's a
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: chance that I might get great.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: But that's the same thing with us. Us men can't look.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: Or assaulted.
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: That's crazy. We can't look a certain way. You might
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: get robbed. So it goes both ways. It's criminals out here.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: Because everybody is, every female is not street smart too, right?
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: That's true.
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: It's a lot of females. More females are not street
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: smart than they are. I'm outside, so I know where
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: I'm going. I'm different. But for the average woman, they'll
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: just throw something on and think, okay, we live in
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: New York City. It's always light outside. People's always walking around.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: Nothing's going to happen to me. That's how majority of
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: the women think. But why can't I just wear what
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: I want to wear? Without it being a problem. Why
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: I can't wear what I want to wear without you
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: assuming something might happen to me.
• 38:34
  Speaker 9: Because that's a utopia. We don't live in a utopia.
• 38:37
  Speaker 9: We're in a metropolis city. Any big city is going
• 38:39
  Speaker 9: to have these types of concerns.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: You get on an MTA and there's mad shit down there.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: But you see how you guys think? And it's justified.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: Because more people would say you shouldn't dress like that.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: Then more people would say you should, right?
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It's tough. It is tough.
• 38:58
  Speaker 8: Men should not be telling women how to dress.
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: Fair. But you got to be smart. You got to
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: be smart.
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: It's like for me, if I go to a red light,
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: if I'm walking to a red light, right, and it
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: say don't walk, and that shit say walk, I'm still
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: going to look to see if cars is coming.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: I'm just, you got to move carefully. That's it.
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: You understand what I'm saying? But that is pushed on women.
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: way more than niggas. And the fact that if we
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: all stand in here right now, we might see a
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: nigga pressing a chick and still won't do nothing to
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: the nigga or say nothing to the nigga. We might
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: see a chick, like a nigga, your homeboy might be
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: trying to grab her hand and, Yo, yo, yo, and
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: following her. And you ain't even like, yo, yo.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: Chill. Chill.
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: Because guess what a guy is going to say? Well,
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: she shouldn't have came outside like that if she ain't
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: want the attention.
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: Or you standing there in the corner and niggas like, yo, yo, yo, yo, bitch,
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: or whatever, whatever.
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: You ain't checking the nigga. Right?
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: So I think what she's saying is so much more
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: energy being pushed into women not doing certain shit that
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: will get them assaulted than men actually talking to the
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: niggas about assaulting.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: A lot of people- There's a lot less. It's not
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: even similar.
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: It's a lot more policing women and what they're doing
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: than actually starting to police your own niggas.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: Tanae? Yeah, my wife. Oh, I saw. You actually know
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: her name.
• 40:20
  Speaker 8: I know, but I'm saying it looks a little bland there.
• 40:24
  Speaker 8: She said something that's right. Men should be taught at
• 40:26
  Speaker 8: a young age not to be weird and creepy.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: That's what I was trying to tell you. With my boys,
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: these are the things that I teach them.
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: Girls get taught a lot of things.
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: And that's the stigma. I hate the fact that my
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: sons cannot be men that cry. What's wrong with a
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: male crying? My kid's father used to hate that. Stop
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: teaching him that crying is a right. It's not a right, nigga.
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: That's why you scarred. That's why your heart is hurt.
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: That's why your soul is tainted. Because you grew up
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: in a household where it's, nigga, stick your chest out.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: You can't cry. That's wrong. I tell my sons to
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: cry every day if you have to. It's all right.
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: It's a bodily function. It's something that you have to
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: let out. Let that shit out. That shit is going
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: to kill you. You're going to be an old, bitter,
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: mad man that might beat the shit out of your girl.
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: that might commit hateful crimes outside. Let that shit out
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: and cry. I hate when men feel like you have to,
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: being too masculine is a thing. The most masculine men
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: be the most pussy niggas I ever seen in my life.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: So nobody can tell me that me raising my son
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: to be intensive and to be caring and to be nurturing.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: My sons hold the door for women. My sons, they
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: may be assholes in the street with their friends, but
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: they good men because I'm raising them to have feelings.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: and show emotion. It's a right to tear up. It's
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: a right to cry at a movie. It's a right.
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: It's a right to make love to somebody you love.
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: And I hate that. It's like men, they did it
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: bad too because society says they got to do this
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: and they got to do that. They can't be taught
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: to be great gentlemen. Why?
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: Why?
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: Why do something bad have to happen for them to
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: fix up and become good, real men? Why? Why they
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: can't be like that from birth?
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: Yo, Kelly, let me ask you a question. How we
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: went from women getting- Because I have sons.
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: And men go through the same type of stigmas as women.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: It's just not heard of enough because men are- Like
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: in society teach men that they have to be a
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: certain way. They have to, they have to protect their
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: secrets and their feelings. So we don't see that. But women,
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: men get judged just as much as women. In fact,
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: more men don't get raped. More men get raped than
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: women because they have to keep this thing that they're
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: tough and they can't tell nobody and they can't cry.
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: More men get raped than women because they have to
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: take that shit to the grave. I'm telling you.
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: You serious?
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: I'm telling you.
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: How do you know that's that?
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: I worked with kids since 2000.
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: Are you serious? More boys get touched?
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: Because they can't say nothing. They can't say nothing because
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: they're going to look like sissies if they say something.
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: They're going to be labeled as gay men if they
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: say something. And just because a male has been raped
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: doesn't mean they're gay.
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: You're talking about this situation and you asked before about
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: the Kai.
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: Streaming. Yeah, the Reggie thing. Allegations.
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: My thing with them, we starting with that.
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: We here.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: My thing with them, the allegations.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: Let's talk about what it is first. What is it first?
• 43:34
  Speaker 8: Please, y'all, because I don't know. I don't know what
• 43:36
  Speaker 8: it is now. I told you this before. It look
• 43:39
  Speaker 8: like a money grab. Start from the beginning. What it
• 43:42
  Speaker 8: was alleged? So, Kassanet has two separate sides. He's in
• 43:46
  Speaker 8: an amp house, and he had a thing on the
• 43:48
  Speaker 8: side called the Clover Boys. The Clover Boys are young.
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
• 43:51
  Speaker 8: Probably like 16 and up. Young boys all in the
• 43:54
  Speaker 8: house together.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: Well, 20s. Some of them, yeah. But the youngest is
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: like Rakai. He was 14, I think. Okay. Yeah.
• 44:01
  Speaker 8: And they've been exposed of things happening sexually in their house.
• 44:07
  Speaker 8: And Kai's in that, letting things slide.
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: Allegedly.
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: Allegedly, yeah. And Reggie is the one that stepped out.
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: And exposed everything. So these are all streaming kids.
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: These are all streaming kids. Reggie, I think it's like
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: from Baltimore.
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: My thing with this whole issue, because nobody was there,
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: nobody knows what's going on. The only reasons why the allegations,
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: people are running with it and believing the allegations, because
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: Reggie was.
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: Sexually assaulted.
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: Sexually assaulted by his brother, which is a known fact
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: that they knew from 2015. This is from when he
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: was young.
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: The brother came out and admitted it.
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: The brother came out and admitted it.
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God. Right?
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So now, when Reggie made these other allegations against... Kassanah.
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: Kassanah and Talil.
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: What did he say about Kassanah and Talil?
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: He said he knows.
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: Things that happened.
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: Things that happened to certain people in the house sexually
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: by other men, other guys.
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: Basically. That's a strong... Wow.
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: Assumption.
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: Assumption to be accused of your accusation is allegedly. The
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: reason why people are running with it and believe in
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: it is because a lot of clips, a lot of
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: clips of them playing, doing the zesty dance, them doing
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: a lot of things that was inappropriate. Was it inappropriate?
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: It is inappropriate. You millions of people are watching out
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: every day. This is what you are portraying on camera.
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: We don't know if it's true or not. Me, I
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: have been around the kids. I have streamed with Talil.
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: I've never seen that. I've never seen it. I've seen
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: females around them. I've never seen that. They said that too,
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: that they was grooming a whole bunch of young women.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: And this is allegedly what Reggie is saying.
• 45:49
  Speaker 8: Like, you can't get into the streaming university unless you
• 45:51
  Speaker 8: do something with Kai.
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: They're like, oh, this year.
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: This year, Kai selected a lot of gay people, gay
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: concert creators that are great at what they do. I
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: don't think it's because they're gay he selected them. Like,
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: all of this is allegedly because of one known fact,
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: that Reggie was... Because if that never came out, Reggie
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: would have been out of here right now.
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: Trust me. If that.
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: If him, he came out and said it, like, my
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: brother had me sucking his.
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: No way.
• 46:24
  Speaker 6: What?
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: Yes. Came out, and the mother.
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: His blood brother?
• 46:27
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: The mother, she said she never stopped helping the brother,
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: but he had to leave her house. Imagine what that
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: mother's going through. You got your son who is the victim,
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: and your big son is the what? Predator?
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: Predator.
• 46:42
  Speaker 6: Imagine.
• 46:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: They found the son did a stream. The son was
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: on live.
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: And he admitted it on stream?
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he said stuff. He said, what goes on at
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: home should have never came out. That's what he said.
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: That was his exact words.
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: Oh my God.
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: So because of that, everybody.
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: Is- Everybody's like, it's like a 50-50 thing.
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: They saying he did it.
• 47:01
  Speaker 9: So just for clarity, what's being accused is that the
• 47:06
  Speaker 9: older men- are sexually abusing the teenagers?
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: No, they're sexually doing it to each other.
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and a lot of stuff is allowed. But they're
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: all adults? No, the kids. They're grown. They're adults. Some
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: of them are adults. Some of them are kids.
• 47:19
  Speaker 9: So the kids are doing it to each other, but
• 47:21
  Speaker 9: the adults are allowing it to happen?
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: We don't know what's... We don't know.
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: They didn't say nothing about.
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: You have to understand.
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: Kai is over 21. He's an adult. Let's keep this real.
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: Talil is a grown-ass man. Kai is a grown-ass man.
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: The only young ones is Rakai and maybe Ray. I
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: think Ray is probably 18 too. Once you're 18, you're
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: a man.
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: But they've been in this for years. Since they was
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: like little, little. We watched them grow up.
• 47:45
  Speaker 9: So I'm just trying to understand what the accusations are.
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: The accusations are that they.
• 47:50
  Speaker 9: Were abusing kids at some point.
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah. No. They were saying Rakai was being abused. And
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: Kai knew about it.
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: And other stuff.
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: And they was being underage, having sex with grown women.
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: Stuff was going under. Oh, by women, not grown men?
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: No, men too.
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: Oh, men. I don't know what the men part was.
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: Men was amongst themselves. Allegedly, Talil, all of these kids
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: allegedly is basically grooming each other at this point. Allegedly.
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: Do I believe it?
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: And it's going right under the radar of he knows
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: about it type of stuff.
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: I can't say yes or no because I've streamed with
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: Talil multiple times. The only thing that I can say
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: is there was females around that was age appropriate for
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: his age.
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: But just because you stream with him and you don't.
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: Know what else is going on. Right, that's why I
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: said I don't know. But if I'm on the outside
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: looking in and I'm seeing every clip is a lot of.
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: Gay activities going on you have a young boy and
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: you doing this to his head in.
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: A clip there's a lot of clips but they have.
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: On clothes but still that and then you doing certain
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: dances and like doing all of this people are going
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: to automatically assume that because that's what you're giving the
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: world to see.
• 49:05
  Speaker 8: So Rekhi is getting accused of being gay Talil is
• 49:08
  Speaker 8: being accused of being gay or bisexual.
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: It's a lot of things just floating around he can
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: expose everything All right.
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: So now nobody's speaking.
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: You said it was a money, it might be a
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: money grab.
• 49:16
  Speaker 8: Because people saying that, yeah, because he got a lot
• 49:19
  Speaker 8: of money. lot of views from exposing this.
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: People saying Reggie is on drugs. So let's, we didn't
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: talk about that. He's on drugs really bad. He's on drugs.
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: They were saying Kai, Kai had to pay like somebody
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: in Alaska all this money.
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: To not get killed.
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: To not get him killed.
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Out of here. Because he, he basically ran off
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: on a plug. Mm. Reggie did. Yeah.
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: Reggie. But nobody has shown known facts. They both did.
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: Talil did a stream. No facts. You're showing us text messages.
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, text messages.
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: Means nothing.
• 49:53
  Speaker 8: Like Kyle was showing text messages of him showing love
• 49:55
  Speaker 8: and being there for him and stuff like that.
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: Reggie was too.
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 49:58
  Speaker 9: What's Reggie's motive for doing all this? He fell out
• 50:01
  Speaker 9: with Kyle?
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they fell out. The group is breaking up. And
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: all of this is... Age. They're becoming grown men. They're big.
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: They have different views now with streaming. They go in
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: different ways, right? They want to do different things, so
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: they're splitting up. They're grown now. They're not streaming kids
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: no more. People need to stop saying they're kids. They're
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: grown-ass men. So people not showing up. The money is
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: not the same no more. It's different now.
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: I thought that this was all people just... First of all,
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: when I first saw all of this, because I have
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: not followed this.
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: This is just super little.
• 50:36
  Speaker 4: This is Sidious.
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: It came out of nowhere, too. I thought that it
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: was just Reggie was kind of losing his- We don't know.
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: We don't, because he's having a child, and he's like,
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: he has to get this out before his child is born.
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: He wants the world to know that he's not gay.
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: But other people allegedly hurt him, too.
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: Hurt him. Did something to him.
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: Did stuff with him sexually.
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. So he put it all out there.
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: He put it all out there. Like, I'm not even
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: talking like, my brother had me sucking his.
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: The mother. She said she still was helping her brother
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: pay rent. Like, she found him a crib, but he
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: couldn't come back to the house. And I feel like
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: all that trauma, I'm sorry, all that trauma, Reggie started
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: streaming when he was younger. Why would you even put...
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: That's trauma. That's trauma. That's trauma.
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: I'm so confused.
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: He's not Hill.
• 51:32
  Speaker 8: It's hard to... Because he was all over the place.
• 51:34
  Speaker 8: So it's hard to pinpoint everything.
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: And then I saw Kai did a response video. Oh, really?
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: You saw the last one.
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: He called him a PDF. So he took that seriously.
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: Reggie called Kai a PDF.
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: You got to remember, if Kai... Do you know how
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: many endorsements? He's like one of the richest, youngest kids.
• 51:54
  Speaker 8: It was a lot of accusations. And Kai was like,
• 51:57
  Speaker 8: I got to protect myself. You're trying to take money
• 51:59
  Speaker 8: out of my pocket.
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: That will... In Kai's whole career.
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: Well, I did wonder why Kai disappeared from the Space Force.
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: Well, he did because they are getting older. He has
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: a clothing brand now. He's trying to come out of
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: the streaming thing. He ended the A & P. Everybody's
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: beefing with each other. It's crazy over here.
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: Streaming universities. He's not doing that no more. Probably not. Done.
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: He said no. Oh, yeah. But it's his deals. His
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: brand deals. He's fucking got AT & T. Big deals.
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: And I'm not saying it's true and I'm not saying
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: it's false. I wasn't there. I don't know. Yeah, it's
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: a whole bunch of- People running with it because Reggie.
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: Well, y'all wanted to discuss this. No, I just- What
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: are we talking about? Because I don't even know what
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: to talk about with this.
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: I have no idea. It's hard. I don't mind. I
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: thought you knew. No, I do know about it, but
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: I don't know- In detail because Reggie was all over
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: the place. What is this to- Yeah, what is.
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: There to discuss? My son wants to get involved in entertainment.
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: He want to start streaming and- My youngest son, he's
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: actually go to school for that. And he want to
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: act and do things. And no.
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: No.
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: Only with me. So my 18-year-old used to model for
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: New York Model Management. And I met, I was speaking
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: to Winnie Harlow. She was with another. And she said,
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: whatever you do in this business, never leave your son alone.
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: Dang it. Not your girl, your son.
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: Whatever you do in this business, whatever goal sees you
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: go on, You are to be with your son in
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: every room.
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: Okay. That's just because it's your child. Okay.
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: No, because do you boys go through a lot in
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: this business?
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Boys.
• 53:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: They get groomed too. The models, none of that. You
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: never heard that?
• 53:47
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: I don't, I'm not in that world.
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So my youngest son now wants to do all
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: of this. And no, if you don't do it with
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: me on my stuff, You can't do it.
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: Nobody.
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: You can't stream nothing.
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: You can't do it.
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: Look what's going on right now. The biggest streamers in
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: the world, look what's going on right now. Look at
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: the accusations. Look what's going on. No, you can't.
• 54:08
  Speaker 8: And it looks mad funny in the light. It's so
• 54:11
  Speaker 8: many clips. While Ray J was in the house with them.
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: Adrian Bronner just went in on him. He just went
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: in on them.
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: On Ray J?
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: No, on Kai.
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: Or Ty Little.
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: Basically, he don't need, like, yeah. Talking about what?
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: Saying, y'all, the F word.
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I can't listen to Adrian Broner. I'm sorry.
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: He's just, I mean, even though.
• 54:38
  Speaker 3: He might have some insight into what, something more, I
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: just can't take his character seriously.
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: I feel like these parents just should have been more
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: involved from the beginning.
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: They seen the money.
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: It's no way I'm going to let my young 13, 12-year-old,
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: 11-year-old child just sit in a room with the door closed.
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: I'm a mom, and my sons, they're big. If you
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: have company, that fucking door stay open. Don't nobody pay
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: rent in this house. All doors open. No doors closed.
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely.
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: And I feel like it should be the same way
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: with entertainment. Moms, parents have to be more involved than
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: their kids in this industry.
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: How are you this adamant about all of this, but
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: still listen to R.
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: Kelly? Because the music.
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: It's the music. I just tune it. I just think
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: that maybe Gerald LaVert is singing a song or something.
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: I'm just sorry. I just.
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: Gerald LaVert, don't put me in this shit. No, R.
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: Kelly is exactly where he needs to be. He's exactly
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: where he needs to be.
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: But the music doesn't have to... You're able to disconnect... The.
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: Music not locked up, he is.
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: I listen to One Wish. Is it One Wish?
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: I Wish.
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: I Wish. I Wish. I Wish, yes. One Wish is raging.
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: I believe I could fly.
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: Yo, what's up with Ray J?
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: Ray J is.
• 55:51
  Speaker 8: You said he was in the room, but I don't understand. Yeah,
• 55:52
  Speaker 8: but it's just being around kids at that age. He's
• 55:54
  Speaker 8: almost like 50, I think, right?
• 55:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 55:56
  Speaker 8: Why is you sleeping in the bed with kids?
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: He was sleeping and then... The boy said he felt something.
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: He felt what? That Ray J did something to him.
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: The shade, the shade for us.
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. That's another streamer. He's like Black Bull, too.
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: You don't really hear from him. His mother is the
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: one that started. You've never seen the viral clips where
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: she FaceTimes and she'd be like, babe, I need my
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: hair done. And I need my hair done. And she's home.
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: She was viral. And he sends the cash up and
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: you hear it. I don't know what that is. It's
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: like when the skits first started.
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: No. That's his mom. I don't pay attention to these
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: young streamers.
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: No, she's a grown woman. She's a mom.
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: But she's hitting him, so I don't know what the
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: hell going on.
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: Her son started streaming, which is a shame.
• 56:42
  Speaker 8: So that's one of the things they like, yo, Kai,
• 56:45
  Speaker 8: he probably knows about this stuff because look at all
• 56:47
  Speaker 8: the things that's happening. It was a scene where Ray
• 56:49
  Speaker 8: J was in the shower naked, trying to get in
• 56:51
  Speaker 8: the shower with Kai.
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: What? Yeah, streaming.
• 56:54
  Speaker 5: Streaming.
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: And they think that it's jokes, but look what comes
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: back to haunt them when allegations happen. What do you
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: want people to believe?
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: Exactly. So, Kelly, this is what I... I'm like, okay,
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: what if they're just playing around, joking?
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: You cannot play like that.
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: Black boy joy type shit.
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: No, you cannot do that because now, look, the world
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: really thinks that this is real. Like, this... Do you
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: think it's real?
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: We don't... If you were to give your opinion, do
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: you think this is... Or no.
• 57:23
  Speaker 5: No.
• 57:24
  Speaker 9: Like.
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: Just say it's just straight from opinion. You're not actually
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: saying anything. I think something happened. You think something happened?
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah. With Kai or in the house? In the house.
• 57:39
  Speaker 8: And then Kai knows about it and tries to find
• 57:43
  Speaker 8: ways to push it away.
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: Kelly's trying not to. She don't want to do it.
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: It's too many things.
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: I feel like. I just feel like the way they
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: portrayed theyself for all of this, that's why all of
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: that play play, like I'm playing like a girl. I
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: don't like that because that comes back to haunt you.
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they had braids.
• 58:02
  Speaker 8: They had the little African braids as men.
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: I think a lot of the things that streamers do
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: is inappropriate. Yes. And we get it. You do it
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: for the views and the clickbait and all of that.
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: But that shit is not appropriate. I would knock my
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: son out for three weeks if I ever seen him
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: doing some shit like that.
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: Trust on a bad little man.
• 58:23
  Speaker 9: I mean, all of these is allegations, so I don't
• 58:27
  Speaker 9: want to say anything to make somebody sound guilty because
• 58:30
  Speaker 9: that's something tough to accuse somebody of.
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: And you can't come back from that. You know what
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: I mean?
• 58:35
  Speaker 9: And Kaisa and I worked real hard to get where
• 58:37
  Speaker 9: he is. So I'm going to say I hope it
• 58:39
  Speaker 9: ain't true. I don't want to feed into the allegations
• 58:42
  Speaker 9: because if it ain't true, we're just feeding into it
• 58:44
  Speaker 9: and he has to pay for something that he's not
• 58:47
  Speaker 9: a part of. The one thing that I thought about
• 58:49
  Speaker 9: is To your point, Kelly, this has happened in all
• 58:52
  Speaker 9: entertainment industries, modeling, music, acting. There's always the, you know,
• 58:59
  Speaker 9: the couch, the casting couch and shit like that. The
• 59:02
  Speaker 9: differences in the streaming world, they're doing content and they're
• 59:06
  Speaker 9: doing streaming marathons 24 hours.
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: So they're filming.
• 59:10
  Speaker 9: Where you're sleeping, where you're showering, brushing your teeth. It's
• 59:14
  Speaker 9: constant content, right? And that just exposes more opportunities for
• 59:19
  Speaker 9: things to be caught on camera that look a little
• 59:22
  Speaker 9: suspect that in other industries we're not seeing all that shit.
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: So.
• 59:28
  Speaker 9: And this is all relatively new. So people have to
• 59:32
  Speaker 9: watch and learn now, and they're going to learn from
• 59:34
  Speaker 9: their mistakes on how to move forward. That being said,
• 59:37
  Speaker 9: I don't know who's guilty and who's not, but it's
• 59:39
  Speaker 9: definitely a learning curve.
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: It's a crime for me to take my son to
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: a pop concert, a female, right? It's wrong. So many
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: people say, why are you taking your son there? He
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: likes this artist. What's wrong with taking, right? But it's
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: not a crime to... To have my son sit and
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: watch streaming when they're doing inappropriate things to each other,
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: that's crazy. What's worse? Me taking my son to a
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: female pop show to let him see his favorite artist,
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: that's wrong. Why you doing that? He's not gay. Why
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: you got him watching a girl? He's not gay, he's
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: a boy. But it's okay for me to let my
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: son see boys playing with each other on stream inappropriately.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: That's okay, though.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: When you say inappropriate.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: They do do inappropriate horseplay.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: What's inappropriate?
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: Taking your homeboy's head and going, That's inappropriate. That's inappropriate.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: It may be funny. We may laugh about it, but
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: it's inappropriate. Let's be real. We are fucking grown adults,
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: and we living in a community where all eyes is
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: on us. We in an industry where all eyes is
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: on us. Every little thing we do, we going to
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: be judged on if we not a female, male, black,
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: or white. It's just how it is. I would feel like,
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: but I'm wrong for taking my son to a pop
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: show to see a white girl perform. What's wrong with that?
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: But that's weird, right?
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, I don't see the equivalence though.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: There is a lot of it.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: So you, that's what they judging your son for?
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: They would judge.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: Like a lot of people tell me, why are you taking,
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: I just took him to a show and it was like,
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: why are you taking him there?
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: I'm so.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: But it's all right for him to watch the streaming
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: with the streamers. All of the streamers do inappropriate shit
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: if you ask me.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: When you asked me, Lama, to talk about this... Yeah,
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 3: I thought you knew a little bit about it.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: It was going viral. That's why. I knew that I
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: was not going to have.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 3: I don't understand none of this shit.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: Well, we don't need the.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: But the who? That? All right. I get that. It's
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: all over the place. It's all over. Yeah, it's all
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: over the place.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: But they're saying it's deeper shit than that. That's just.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 8: If y'all don't know what's happening, it's hard to talk
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 8: about it on a podcast.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: Just hold your kids tight and protect them. That's all.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: Speaking of kids, what do y'all want to.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: Because I ain't having no more. I hope I'm going
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: through menopause.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 13: In my body for nine months is my legacy, not
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 13: the man that I had a child with. We are
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 13: so brainwashed as women that we are carrying children for
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 13: nine months, mind you, growing every single limb that that
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 13: child has was grown in your womb, going through labor,
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 13: and we know how dangerous that is, breastfeeding a child
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 13: and giving the child the husband's or the father's last name.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 4: I don't care if you're married or not.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 13: My husband took my last name in marriage, but let's
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 13: say that he didn't. Me and my child will have
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 13: the same last name and my husband will have his
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 13: own last name We have come so far from matriarchal, matrilineal,
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 13: all of it. And the only reason that purity culture
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 13: is this heavy thing and pushed on women and not
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 13: men is because way back when, before we had the
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 13: advanced science that we have where men can determine paternity,
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 13: the only way that they would know for sure if
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 13: a child was theirs was if the woman came into
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 13: the marriage as a virgin. That is why we have
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 13: purity culture. And that is why purity culture is more
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 13: directed towards women in all Abrahamic religions.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: It's more directed towards.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 13: Women and not men because it wasn't about being pure
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 13: for God. Because if it was, it would have been
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 13: equal for men and women. It was because the men
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 13: took all of the wealth and they wanted to pass
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 13: it down to their son, but they wanted to make
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 13: sure that.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 4: The son was theirs.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 13: So they placed control over women's bodies and greater consequences
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 13: over over women who did not buy into purity culture
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 13: give your child your last name i don't care if
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 13: you're married or not but especially if you're not married
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 13: but if it's up to me keep your last name
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 13: for one keep your last name change it if it's
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 13: your dad's last name because that's what i did in
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 13: the last video they was like oh but you have
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 13: your dad's last name i don't actually like actually i
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 13: don't but um yeah keep your last name matriarchal matrilineal.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: Uh I agree. If you're not married, it could go
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: either way.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 5: Really?
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 8: That's what happened with me. I was born King, and
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 8: then I got changed to a Moppins. I got two
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 8: birth certificates.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I didn't mean to laugh. King is cooler. Yeah.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: But I found my family, my father's side, when I
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: searched my last name.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 9: Okay.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: Because it's so weird. Kelly, you think kids should have
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: their father's last name?
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: Well, my first son, he's 30. He has my last
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: name because I was 14. And my mother was like, no,
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: the name stays in the family. Because I was a
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: young mom, so that's just... No, give the father. To me,
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: it doesn't matter if you was with him at that
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: time of pregnancy. Give him his last name.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: There's nothing wrong with that. Why? We going into the whys, though.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 3: Why are you giving your kids the other man's last name,
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 3: even if you're not with him?
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: And I feel like that was just because what we
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: were taught and told so I'm just following protocol how
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: it should be that's her saying that I think so
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: I have a last name I'm not related to none.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 8: Of them see I 50% agree I believe if you're
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 8: not married then it'll go either.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: Way I was married 16 years and I still have my.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: Last name but if you have a deadbeat then it
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: gotta go to the.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: Mom I never changed my last name if you have.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: A deadbeat dad then mom should put the last name. True.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: Anthony Edwards type of situation.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 9: There's a lot of shit that we do, kind of
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 9: like what you said, Kelly. We just do it just
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 9: because that's what's been done generation before us. So I'm
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 9: all for questioning shit and putting some thought into moving
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 9: in a different way. I feel like our generation did
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 9: a good job of that. We kind of rejected a
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 9: lot of religion and a lot of norms and stuff, right?
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 9: So I'm with that, but I also feel like, and
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 9: she even brought up the historical context of all of
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 9: which is important, but you don't have to like overcompensate
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 9: for shit that happened throughout history. So I'm like, all right,
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 9: I get what you're saying. And I think if you're single,
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 9: it could go either way to your point. It depends
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 9: on the relationship. It depends on all the things. And
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 9: it depends on the two grown people that's involved in this,
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 9: making this decision. Y'all can decide. You shouldn't tell people,
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 9: take your, Don't take your dad's last name. Don't do this.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 9: Why are you telling another grown person what to do
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 9: with their last name and their kid's last name? Let
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 9: people make their own decisions, right? And I will say this.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 9: The overcompensation part is when she's like, her husband has
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 9: to take her name.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's crazy.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: That's crazy.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 9: And then she does not accept her father's last name.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: It's like... What kind of shit is she on? You
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: know what I mean?
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: She has a thing about men.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah. She comes across... You know what I mean?
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: She be fucking him up. She fucks... You cannot tell
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: me she runs that relationship. It's deeper than the last name.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: She has control issues, and it's particularly with men.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: You're going too far.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 9: She's trying to make up for shit that happened in
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 9: the past, and she's going a little too far, in
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 9: my opinion.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: I don't want to judge nobody, but people... You know,
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: she's a strong black woman. Okay, yeah, we get it.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 6: Fine.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: I don't like that overly strong shit.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: You better relax sometimes.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: It's all right, girl. It's all right. It's all right. Like,
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: the father, you changing your name, you doing too much.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: It's more, she's not thinking of it historically. Like, she's
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: thinking of it, that's trauma. She needs therapy. Like, you
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: could tell.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: She overdid it.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: You know, I get it. My kids, I was married
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: when I had my last two, so they have their
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: dad last name.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 13: Right.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: It is what it is. She married one of those
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: nice guys. That's what it was. She married a nice guy? Yeah.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: Because how would you take, you would take your wife's
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: last name?
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: Not me per se. Right. But I also won't make
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: her take mine.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she still has hers.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: She's going to keep her dad's last name.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: I have my last, I was married and still.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: Have my last name.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 3: She has two names already and she's going to add
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 3: mine at the end and they're all G's. telling her
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 3: people what her name is is going to be a
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 3: whole sentence and whatever the fuck she wants to do
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 3: to make her happy I'm cool with it.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: They make it seem like oh we're giving you you're
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: going to take your husband's last name like we're giving
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: you away and you know I get it if she
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: felt like no nobody it don't matter a name is
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: a name better hope.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 3: Y'all stay together Former NBA star Nick Young reveals why
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 3: he still hasn't married his fiancée nearly seven years after proposing.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: Let's see.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 4: You want to get married?
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 5: I'm supposed to get married in December, probably.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: What do you mean you're supposed to?
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 4: I was supposed to.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 5: Get married last August and... And then what happened? There
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 5: was a lot going on and the weather wasn't right.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 5: What do you mean?
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: What do you mean?
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: I thought you were going to go indoors if it's raining.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 5: Me at the outside wasn't and then the weather.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 5: So we got to find where the weather is perfect. Like,
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 5: if the weather ain't right.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: It ain't right. right. So what you want, 70 degrees
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: and sunny?
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 5: More like my audience can't be sweating, so it gotta
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 5: be like a breeze. You might need to go up
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 5: to Malibu or something. That's where it was, but in Malibu,
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 5: it was like hot in the morning, then.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 4: It started raining.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: So.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 5: Once we find the right area, you know, I tell her,
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 5: just find the right time of the day and we
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 5: can get married tomorrow. Nah, he's full of it.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 8: He's the same one that got snitched on in the
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 8: NBA for cheating on Iggy.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 9: Oh, yeah?
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's him.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: He said he still want to have fun.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he don't want to get married. Why did he
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: get engaged then? What do y'all think? Because the women,
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: they put a.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: Y'all are forced to get engaged. Y'all are forced. Some
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: men are forced.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 8: They put this time on you, like this clock on you. Like, yo,
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 8: what are we doing? After like, what, two, three years?
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: You're like, all right.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 8: And then their friends get in their ear. Yo, you
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 8: with this... How long?
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: How long?
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 3: So I think you had to do that over peer pressure.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 3: But even so, why doesn't the peer pressure work after
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 3: the engagement?
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 3: If that's the case, now the friends is on you
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 3: about being engaged for seven years.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: He probably going through that shit, but he's scared. You
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: could clearly see the weather.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: You're rich.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: You could go anywhere. Go to Seattle.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: He got money. Lama, you going to get married? I
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: want to. That's how I'm going to pop out like
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: Coco Jones.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 3: Are you scared of the institution of marriage and what
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 3: it will do to you as a man? If it
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 3: don't work out, you know that it largely benefits women
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 3: if it doesn't work out.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: Does that scare you at all? Yeah, it does.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 3: I wish, why the marriage license is not every other,
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 3: like every other license, we got to renew it. I
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 3: wish it was like that. But it scares me.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: So I'm still married?
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: What does that mean? You ain't get divorced?
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: You don't get, it doesn't expire?
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 5: No.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: No. The marriage license is fabulous. No, I know. I
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: want it to expire. Like, this shit ain't working. We
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: got to renew it.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 3: I'm in a situation where I know I'm going to
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 3: get married.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: And I was thinking about it this morning.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 3: Right, when I seen this, I'm actually proud of our
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 3: relationship and the way that we communicate in a way that.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: I don't believe it would go sour.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 3: But I can see, like, to a point where, like, she'd, like,
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 3: try to steal my shit or, like, come after 50%
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 3: of my shit or whatever.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: Like, I don't see her doing that with me.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 3: But I can see a lot of men being scared,
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 3: especially when you have bread, of the institution of marriage.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: So... When he's saying the weather ain't right and it
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: ain't never been right in the last seven years. It's
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: a motion, yeah. He's scared. I could see him being scared.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: You got to remember, NBA player, right?
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: He's seeing all his friends. He's seeing everybody. He's seeing,
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: what type of, who was his girlfriend?
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: I don't even know. We don't know.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: Lord, I hope she's not one of them.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: She might be a baddie.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: It's over.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: She's over.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: They want to leave you broke.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 3: But look at what's going on with Chris Brown. You
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 3: would think you get with a chick. You think that
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 3: everything is good at first. And then when the shit
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 3: go bad, you in court. They want $ 10, 000 a month.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 3: They want the house. They want the shit in Maui.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 3: They want the Maybach.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: You like, yo.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: And his first, the royalty's mom, the first mom, she's like, nah,
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: he takes care of his kids. I believe her.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: I believe.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: The one thing he does is take care of his kids.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: I believe that.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: But take care of your kids how?
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 3: Because take care of your kids can be financially.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: And that's the main thing. She's asking for more money.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: But she's also asking for time, isn't she? He's on tour.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: I don't think she's the age as his older daughter.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Royalty be on tour with him sometimes.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: She's big now. She's a big girl.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 5: She's older.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: She be at the shows.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: You know? And I'm going to see him on the 15th,
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: and I want a refund because I don't want to
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: give that fucking bitch nothing extra if it's coming out
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: of my ticket.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: Wow. I already DM, because I went viral for Chris Brown,
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: so his first Royalty's mother is following me. And I
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: DM to like, yo, just say the word when I
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: got a pop out on a bitch. She liked it.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: You said that shit to me.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: This one here, yo, I'll clap a chick. Don't let
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: me know.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because I don't like when people get taken advantage of.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 8: Tyler Perry just had a clip that went viral saying
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 8: he don't ever want to get married.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: That's different.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: To a boy or a girl.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: No, I'm just saying, because he got bread. He got money.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 2: Is he gay?
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Oh, my God.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 2: I know he was dating Tyra.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: But then a guy was suing him. Yeah.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: Why does it matter if Tyler Perry's gay or not?
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: He want to get married.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: Because now I see why all his movies.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: What?
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: Have is like, you know, like.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: Well, I guess it matters because. It don't.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 9: He can't necessarily come out because a lot of his
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 9: core crowd is the religious crowd. His crowd is like
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 9: the Bible Belt, Christian, like, you know what I mean?
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: That's because of Medea. People's grandma. You know what I mean?
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 9: They not with that shit.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: So they're okay with a male playing a female?
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It's jokes. It's funny. They not looking into it
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: that deep.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 9: That's his core audience. So I don't know if he
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 9: could ever come out.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: If he is gay. I don't know.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: And that's crazy because the industry, that's nuts. The religious.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 9: He's our generation's Luther Vendor. He gonna take it to
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 9: his grave if he's gay. I don't know.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: I feel like me personally, I look at it different.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: Like he can't come out because the power that he
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 2: serves in Hollywood. Him owning all his stuff. Him being
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: a black man. It would be like, it would be
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: It would be hard for him.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 4: You think so?
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: But now you're talking about the religious thing.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: Isn't he a billionaire? Yeah, he's a billionaire. So how
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: would it be hard for anybody who's worth a billion dollars?
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: He'll be great.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: They will be trying to- And owns his own studio. Yeah,
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 2: that's what I'm saying. It probably would be harder for
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: him to come out like that.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 3: That industry is mostly gay. Up at that level, it'd
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 3: probably be better for him.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: The churches are too, but anyway, yeah. The pastors, I'm
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: just being honest. Listen- Kelly- I'm calling it like I
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: see it. I done been to a couple of Brooklyn
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: churches and had to get my son up out of
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 2: there because I seen the men playing that tambourine a.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 5: Little bit too better good.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 2: It was playing it better than Sister Janice. Okay? Let's
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: talk about it.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: Shit.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: Half of the religion... and I'm going to, the Christians
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: and the Baptists, a lot of the men in the
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 2: congregations be congregating with the deacons. I'm saying, I don't care.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: Kelly. What I'm supposed to do? To find you.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: I love fellowship tabernacle.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 5: Yo.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: The Kelly G Show. I'm just being honest. Like, that's
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: the problem. I'm tired of everybody sugarcoating and brushing shit
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 2: under the rug.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: But if they gay in the church, what's the problem?
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: It's not a problem. Damn it. The gay guys are
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 2: making it a problem. The deacons are, oh no, we
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: got to, the first lady, get a first male up there.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 2: That's how I really know you really care about God
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 2: because you're being truthful. You're not lying to us. You're
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 2: not supposed to lie, right? And be holy and love God.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 2: So have the first male be up there. What's wrong
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: with that?
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: You know what? That's going to be crazy.
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 3: No, she's actually right because they are so staunch about
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 3: being heterosexual and how gay is a crime and all
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 3: of that. What she's saying, but y'all doing whatever y'all doing.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 3: Y'all was, you know, how many allegations or how many
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 3: times have you heard?
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 2: Boys, little boys being touched at the altar. Little boys
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 2: have to get on their knees behind that altar.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: By the priest. By the priest. Yeah.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 2: So religion don't have nothing to do with white or black.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: It don't have nothing to do with color. And I
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: just feel like be honest with yourself. That's why we
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 2: as people are not there yet. We're never going to
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 2: be there. Because the people that we're looking up to
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: and the people that we idolize, they're not free with themselves.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: Let that shit out.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: It's all right.
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 2: Be yourself.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: You smoked that a little bit.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: You smoked that a little bit.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: And this is why I feel like I'm not where
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 2: I'm supposed to be. with my career because I stand
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 2: on business. Nobody's going to make me... No, none of
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 2: that blackballing. You're not going to do none.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: Of that shit.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: You think you'd be blackballed? I think I would get
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 2: canceled because I'm maybe too honest.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: I don't think so.
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 2: Because I know a lot of shit that go on
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 2: and I'm never going to be like that. Everybody say,
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 2: you're going to change.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: I think you're your own worst enemy. Yeah, probably.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 3: I think you're the only one powerful enough to be
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 3: your worst enemy. Most people are like... You're the only
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 3: one that powerful. But with you, your reality sounds too
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 3: bright for somebody else to want to be able to
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 3: do anything.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: I don't see it. I just want- But you be
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: in your head.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 2: The world to just be themselves. That's it. The world
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 2: will go so much smoother if everybody just- Play they role.
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: I want Llama to be different. I don't want him
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: to be himself.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 2: Llama is different already. He's different.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: People love me for me.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: Llama, I couldn't date you.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: I'm telling you.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: They asked, somebody asked us if we ever, if we
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 2: ever like, is it hard working with somebody?
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: Y'all attracted to each other?
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 2: And I was like, no, not yet.
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: Yo, get Kelly out of here.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 2: I said, no, not yet. I said, I could have
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 2: took Llama down in the first hour.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: I don't wait.
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 2: Because I'm old.
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: Lama, you think she could have took you down?
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 2: No, I would never.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: You're touching his knee, though. You keep grabbing his knee.
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 2: I don't look at Lama like that.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: It's still a knee. Oh, my God. I keep watching
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: your head. Look at your head.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: Lama, I don't want you to break allegations on me
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 2: a couple of years down the line when I'm rich
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 2: and famous.
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: Put you in a close friend.
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 8: Tell these people where to find you. Lama Bean, at
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 8: Lama Bean. You can find me at Views of an Ex.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 8: Find me at Slight Studios. Are you actually going to start?
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: You got a studio. Why you ain't doing your own shit?
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: It's a lot of work. I can't even get to
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: edit her stuff. I can't. I definitely can't. I've got
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: some recorded. I can't get to the edits.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 3: If anybody out there is into audio and visual and
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 3: looking for a job, please reach out to Llama.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 2: He paying because I ain't got it.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: That's not what the chicks he go on dates be saying. Oh, shit.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: I'm on a budget, man. I gotta pay this rent now.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 3: The live show tickets are up. Daja Bell is excited.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 3: It is her last live show here with So Shameless.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 3: Kelly G says she's hosting. Hit her up at the
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 3: Kelly G show. She's nice. I've seen her do this before.
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 3: She don't play. She's a great crowd woman. She's a
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 3: great comedian. Show up November 27th. Go on over to citywinery.com.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 3: Search So Shameless and get your tickets. The VIP tickets
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 3: are You're going to be part of the Homie Court jury.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: Oh, shoot.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 3: You get to stay after the show for a live
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 3: question and answer segment with me, Trom, Dodge, and Yesterday.
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: We are doing free merch.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 3: And, of course, you get the front seating so that
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 3: you can be part of the jury. City Winery sells.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: Food and drinks. Join the show. They bring it to
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: your table. It's dope.
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying? As a matter of fact,
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 3: make sure you order me some chicken. While we up there,
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 3: because I'm watching y'all eat and shit.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: Come on, don't do that.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 3: Matter of fact, I'm hungry right goddamn now.
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: I love y'all live shows.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 2: Thank you. Thank you for having us.
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: I remember that one time you got the water guns
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: and stuff in the front. Oh, yeah. Oh, shit. Was
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: it water guns? It was like Nerf guns. Nerf guns.
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 2: So you do two types of live shows. You do
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 2: the shameless.
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: And oh, it's... He did that one time and it
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: was fire.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 2: I used to work at City Winery, so when I
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 2: come there, I might have to wear a hood.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: You serious?
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 2: I quit the same day or the two days. I
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 2: lasted a week.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: And you quit? What the fuck are you going to do?
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 2: And I loved it. I loved it. But the staff,
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 2: they was young girls. You know, young people that work
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 2: in there.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: You ain't popping nobody, did you?
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 2: No, I actually was really, really nice. They really loved me.
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 2: I got good reviews, but I can't listen to nobody
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 2: younger than me. I don't take direction to young people.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: See, wiring is dope. Yeah, it's a really good job, though.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they food is good. They kale salad. Somebody order
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 2: me that kale salad.
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: You got it. You got it. SoShamelessPodcast.com.
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 3: You can go buy the live tickets there. Come see
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 3: Kelly G and Llama. Llama's going to be there.
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: I'll be there. Of course he's going to be there.
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: I can take you to Homie Court? You can absolutely.
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: You can absolutely. Even though you a messy ass nigga.
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 2: He the wrong person. You need to take the.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: I can't. So shameless. Yeah, I can't. I gotta take
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: you to Homie Court.
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 2: That was a good interview? That was a good, this
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 2: was good?
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was excellent. But yo, Lama, you're never going
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: to win. You want to put yourself in places to win.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: You can't beat me. No. You can't beat me for
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: social issues.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 3: You're not audacious, or harsh off. You're not audacious enough.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 3: You think you can win, but I'm trying to, this is.
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: Friendship, right? Even though you don't think you're my friend.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: Don't try to get with me on the main stage.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: I'm going to be embarrassing. I'm telling you. You can.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: I don't mind. Trump said, yeah. I'm telling you. Don't
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: do it. I am audacious as fuck, bro. All right.
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 9: Go ahead.
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: Go for it. Kick me off a hard ass off, man.
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: I kicked you off because you argued with the co-host.
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: I did not. You had a whole thing with the co-host.
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: That's her reason. Yes. No, I was just the middle man.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: I asked her. Her and Tasha were his best friends.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: I was the middle man. With the mics on. You're
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: going through the whole thing.
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 5: Oh, yep.
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: They cut each other off and I was the middle man.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: And she felt like... You was too connected to the ops. Yeah.
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: You had nothing else to do with it. Nothing. I
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: told you I didn't want to know. But we squashed it, though.
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: We been squashing it. Is he close?
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 2: No, I ain't even texting back. I'm looking at Instagram
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 2: because that's the only thing. That gay stuff with the
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 2: churches pisses me off because I know personally gay pastors. Like,
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 2: know them.
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: I know a gay pastor.
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 2: Like, some of my gay friends. Yeah, and it's like,
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 2: why y'all live in... But they have gay churches, so.
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: You have gay churches?
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Reverend Zach is a gay pastor. He's the first.
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 2: And his church was on Atlantic Avenue.
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: It's a gay church?
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 2: It's a gay church.
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: Or he's a gay pastor?
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 2: No, it was a gay church.
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: What is a gay church?
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 2: Predominantly, it's like a lot of gay people, trans, they
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 2: have the gay flag.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: Really?
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 2: Look, I'm about to show you.
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: Get out of here.
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 9: Especially in Brooklyn Heights, I've seen this shit.
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: The gay flags. I don't know.
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 2: I have a friend that was fucking him, okay?
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: Why you fucking him? Whispering into the mic. That's so shameless.
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: Who's Christine? That's my producer. I gotta see how she look.
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: She handles the business. Christine, put your at in the Discord.