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Best of Chuck & Buck 12-11 · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: Lazy and gentlemen, Ladies and gentlemen, behold in.
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  Speaker 2: Sixty one guard from Brighton, Illanois and former high school
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  Speaker 2: basketball stand.
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  Speaker 3: What in the hell does that mean?
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  Speaker 4: Don't jumped any conclusions. Not a god, You've got to
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  Speaker 4: lower lower your expectations.
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  Speaker 2: Hard to believe he could once send a fastball to
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  Speaker 2: plum getting some Bucky Jacobson vibes and former I'll just
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  Speaker 2: openly admit I'm a fat, out of shaped ex athlete.
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  Speaker 1: Now there's been a noticeable spike in your blood pressure.
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  Speaker 2: Five seven guard and a former college water polo national chimpion.
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  Speaker 1: Has a lot of useless crap up here.
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  Speaker 2: This is Chuck and Buck in the Morning with Ashley Ryan.
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  Speaker 2: What to you buy to? They look casino resort and
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  Speaker 2: quilse to Creek Draft cany sports book where the action
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  Speaker 2: never stops.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, good morning, Welcome into the radio show that is
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  Speaker 4: called throughout the Heartland and beyond Chucking Buck in the
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  Speaker 4: Morning Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM. Great to
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  Speaker 4: have you with us here on this Thursday morning. We
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  Speaker 4: got four hours with too much to discuss. Once again,
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  Speaker 4: I was really going to I had two really fun
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  Speaker 4: segments set aside to do today. A couple of goofy
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  Speaker 4: things got a little off the sports track a little
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  Speaker 4: bit here today, but I don't think we can afford
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  Speaker 4: to do it. There's just too much serious sports going
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  Speaker 4: on out there.
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  Speaker 1: Ain't nobody got time for that.
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  Speaker 4: Ain't nobody got time for nothing these days.
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  Speaker 1: That is the truth.
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  Speaker 4: Welcome into the radio program. My name is Chuck Powell.
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  Speaker 4: Ashley Ryan is here as well, and hopefully you're doing
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  Speaker 4: all right with all of the rain that is falling
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  Speaker 4: here today. It has cost us a team member for
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  Speaker 4: today's show, as Bucky Jacobson is not going to be
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  Speaker 4: with us on today's program obviously. Living by a river
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  Speaker 4: out in North Bend with so much rain, he's got
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  Speaker 4: things to take care of around the household, and so
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  Speaker 4: we won't have Bucky today. And for his sake and
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  Speaker 4: for everybody's sake out there, I think the I mean,
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  Speaker 4: you're the meteorologist on this program. I think what what
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  Speaker 4: it shows on my phone? And my phone isn't the
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  Speaker 4: same brick that I used to have.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's mostly updated, I think, mostly much better.
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  Speaker 4: We just got to get through pretty much the morning
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  Speaker 4: into the afternoon, and then some of this and then
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  Speaker 4: it's going to fade out.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: We My flood watch got updated till Saturday. It was
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  Speaker 5: supposed to be over Friday at four, it got updated
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  Speaker 5: till Saturday at four.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I think the flood waters we just got to
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  Speaker 4: deal with them until they recess in terms of like
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  Speaker 4: getting rain, getting more rain. I think you're right. It
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  Speaker 4: was on my phone last night that it's done by
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  Speaker 4: noon today. Yeah, and so from that point then we
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  Speaker 4: can then the waters will recede and hopefully we can
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  Speaker 4: return back to normal life. But I know, I know
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  Speaker 4: how damaging all this has been on a lot of
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  Speaker 4: people out there, including our own Bucky Jacobson, who's nothing's wrong,
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  Speaker 4: nothing's wrong with him, but obviously he's got to protect
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  Speaker 4: house and home and family here today and is in
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  Speaker 4: one of those lower lying regions that also is right
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  Speaker 4: via riverbank.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 5: Had he had to couldn't even drive his car up
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  Speaker 5: to his house yesterday. Yeah, the water on the road.
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  Speaker 5: So I hope that they're okay. I was a little
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  Speaker 5: worried about them overnight because that water is right next
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  Speaker 5: to their house.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, no doubt, no doubt. And raging a little bit
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  Speaker 4: and we've got more rain falling as we speak. If
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  Speaker 4: you're just waking up, it's raining hard again this morning.
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  Speaker 4: So obviously that's priority number one, story number one around here.
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  Speaker 4: But we will distract you with four hours of sports
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  Speaker 4: nonsense during today's radio show. And so it is great
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  Speaker 4: to have you with us on the program, so Ashley
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  Speaker 4: and myself, but all sorts of great guests going to
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  Speaker 4: be joining us today and we'll map that out with
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  Speaker 4: what's on tap here in a matter of moments. The
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  Speaker 4: story we're leading with, and there are two options here,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, Philip Rivers is still just so fascinating. I
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  Speaker 4: could lead for a third straight day with Philip Rivers
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  Speaker 4: and the Colts quarterback situation. We will talk about it
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  Speaker 4: for the end of the hour and we're gonna spend
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  Speaker 4: a lot of time on it during the four hours
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  Speaker 4: we are together. But the Sharon Moore story suddenly becomes
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  Speaker 4: a big topic, and believe it or not, yeah, it's
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  Speaker 4: a big story, and it's sensational, and it's you know, clickworthy,
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  Speaker 4: and it's refresh worthy to find out if there's any
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  Speaker 4: more information. It's scandalous, it's you know, it's everything. And
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  Speaker 4: if you haven't heard about it. I'll detail it for
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  Speaker 4: you here in a second. But also this has turned
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  Speaker 4: into about as big a local story as we're dealing
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  Speaker 4: with as well.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah right, when we just yeah, yeah, and the domino
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  Speaker 5: effect of whoever takes the Michigan head coaching job now
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  Speaker 5: and every single name being brought up has links to
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  Speaker 5: the University.
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  Speaker 4: Of Washington basically, yeah, And we'll get into an actual
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  Speaker 4: discussion about it in a moment. But I woke up
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  Speaker 4: this morning to the conversation about who's going to be
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  Speaker 4: the next Michigan head coach and the only two names
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  Speaker 4: that were discussed were Jetfish and Kaylin de Boor believe
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  Speaker 4: it or not correct, And so that seems to be
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  Speaker 4: where the media at least is focused on as who
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  Speaker 4: might end up replacing Sharon Moore Ann Arbor. And then
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  Speaker 4: I heard a third name on the drive in Chris Peterson.
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  Speaker 5: Oh okay, no way, sorry, he didn't coming out of coaching.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so.
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  Speaker 1: Allow that he's not allowed to kind of coaching to
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  Speaker 1: go to Michigan.
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  Speaker 4: So we'll get into that aspect here in a moment,
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  Speaker 4: because that's a really big deal and we'll be talking
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  Speaker 4: about a lot today. And yet the story itself, just
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  Speaker 4: to update you as much as we can, or maybe
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  Speaker 4: inform you in case you did check out last night. Hey,
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  Speaker 4: there's not much going on in the sports world. I'm
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  Speaker 4: going to go pitch a tent in the backyard with
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  Speaker 4: the kids. Maybe that's what you decided to do. And
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  Speaker 4: now you're trying to come back and try to get
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  Speaker 4: updated on your sports world. So yesterday, story breaks that
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  Speaker 4: Sharon Moore has been fired with cause, and immediately you
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  Speaker 4: start going to all right, what's happened? What scandal has
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  Speaker 4: broken out? And it turns out it didn't take long
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  Speaker 4: before we found out that he was fired because of
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  Speaker 4: an inappropriate relationship with a female on the staff. Yes, now,
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  Speaker 4: let that lead your brain wherever you want to take it.
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  Speaker 4: They have identified who the female is, so her face
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  Speaker 4: is out there, her name is out there, and then
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  Speaker 4: there are all sorts of these rumors out there as well. Now,
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  Speaker 4: before we get to the rumors, which is always a
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  Speaker 4: dangerous area for a sports talk show host, the actual
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  Speaker 4: information that we know is that Sharon Moore did not
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  Speaker 4: take this well. He got home, his wife didn't take.
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  Speaker 1: It well either, which is surprising.
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  Speaker 4: They ended up in a domestic dispute, and then Sharon
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  Speaker 4: Moore drove to another person's house, broke into the house
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  Speaker 4: and committed aggravated assault and ended up being arrested. And
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if he's been released from jail or not.
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  Speaker 1: I have not heard that he has been released, but.
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  Speaker 4: He was arrested, mugshot the whole nine yards And so
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  Speaker 4: that's as much as we know. Noyes.
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  Speaker 6: Now, what do we read into it? Kind of read
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  Speaker 6: into it that whoever's house he broke into is maybe
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  Speaker 6: the person that he blamed for leak in the story
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  Speaker 6: to the university. Yeah, that's really great, classy of you
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  Speaker 6: to commit this and then blame somebody else for actually
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  Speaker 6: revealing how disgusting you've been.
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  Speaker 3: Yep.
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  Speaker 4: And yet so that's kind of what they believe it.
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  Speaker 4: And it stems back to the wife finding out the
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  Speaker 4: information and then kicking him out. And it sounds like
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  Speaker 4: Sharon more than decided to go blame all of his
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  Speaker 4: mess on the person that squealed on him. That's what
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  Speaker 4: it sounds like.
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  Speaker 1: That's what it sounds like.
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  Speaker 5: And obviously, yes, there will get more information and we'll
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  Speaker 5: be able to then have more facts versus our speculation
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  Speaker 5: on what it does sure seem like it's pointed in
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  Speaker 5: that direction. He is also a father of three daughters,
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  Speaker 5: so their lives have been turned upside down. His wife's
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  Speaker 5: life has been turned upside down, his wife his life
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  Speaker 5: has been turned upside down by his own doing, and
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  Speaker 5: the female staffer's life has been turned upside down.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's just crazy. I mean, here you find
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  Speaker 4: you reach the kind of the pinnacle of your career.
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  Speaker 4: I can't imagine Sharon Moore ever thought he was gonna
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  Speaker 4: have a better job than the head coach at the
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  Speaker 4: University of Michigan. Yeah, and so here he gets it
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  Speaker 4: and temptation leads him astray, and then his reaction to
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  Speaker 4: this has pretty much flushed any opportunity that he'll ever
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  Speaker 4: have to coach again. Not that that's the most important thing,
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  Speaker 4: but we are a sports talk show host. We're not
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  Speaker 4: doctor Drew here. So he's probably never gonna have the
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  Speaker 4: opportunity to coach again. He's probably burned down his career
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  Speaker 4: based off of his actions. Which, by the way, a
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  Speaker 4: lot of coaches do stuff like that. A lot of
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  Speaker 4: coaches do that stuff like that, maybe fewer now than
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  Speaker 4: what they used to. Yeah, because of all the eyeballs
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  Speaker 4: that are on them and social media and everybody's got
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  Speaker 4: a cell phone. Now you probably see more less. You
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  Speaker 4: see a lot less of that now than what it
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  Speaker 4: used to be used to run rampant. And so this
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  Speaker 4: is not unusual to Charon Moore that he would He's.
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  Speaker 7: Not the first fall into this, Yeah, but the reaction
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  Speaker 7: to it has probably burned his entire career down and
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  Speaker 7: I'm not sure.
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  Speaker 4: And then whatever he can do with his family life
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  Speaker 4: to try to repair things. He's not gonna spend his
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  Speaker 4: life in jail, I'll say that. But Sharon Moore has
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  Speaker 4: certainly made his life worse with his actions prior to
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  Speaker 4: yesterday and then his actions and then his immediate emotional
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  Speaker 4: reaction to what he realizing how much damage he had
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  Speaker 4: done to his life and to his career.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and now yeah, he's going to be left to
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  Speaker 5: pick up the pieces. And it's crazy when you think too,
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  Speaker 5: just about his head coaching position and getting that job, right.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, he got that job because Harbaugh was leaving
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  Speaker 5: and the program was about to be in big trouble
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  Speaker 5: for cheating, and they were like, well, yeah, we're gonna
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  Speaker 5: just promote you because it made sense right, why not
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  Speaker 5: keep someone that's in house versus who's going to want
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  Speaker 5: to take this?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I won a national championship. Yeah, and so like,
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  Speaker 4: why would we pivot away from this? The kids like more,
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  Speaker 4: he's got the respect of the clubhouse.
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  Speaker 5: Blah blah, yeah, yeah, yeah, And but also they probably
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  Speaker 5: were a little worried, like, who's you know, were we
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  Speaker 5: might be in big trouble, so we our coaching candidates
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  Speaker 5: might be less. So we've got this successful offensive coordinator
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  Speaker 5: and he and the kids. Yeah, as you said, the
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  Speaker 5: kids really like him, so let's do that. So he
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  Speaker 5: ended up with this job that a lot of big
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  Speaker 5: names are now being you know, talked about, and wor's
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  Speaker 5: been at any time Harbaugh big name, I mean Michigan
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  Speaker 5: a big program, and he he really had reached the top.
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  Speaker 5: That's one of the top jobs in college football. With
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  Speaker 5: our question and yeah, threw it all away. And Michigan
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  Speaker 5: could have very.
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  Speaker 4: Easily started a coaching search when the harrorball left and
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  Speaker 4: ended up with a much better, bigger name and much
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  Speaker 4: more proven track record, but they wanted to reward Jim
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  Speaker 4: Harbaugh's choice for successor, and things were going so well
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  Speaker 4: for the program despite the scandal. They were winning despite
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  Speaker 4: the scandal, and so he got the position, and now
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  Speaker 4: Michigan gets to conduct its search for a coach. And
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  Speaker 4: as I mentioned, this is where it becomes local because
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  Speaker 4: all the names that are being brought up have ties
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  Speaker 4: to Washington. Now I've heard Mentor the defensive coordinator, But
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  Speaker 4: it sounds like Michigan wants to finally separate itself from
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  Speaker 4: the Harball regime. The previous scandal with stallions and now
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  Speaker 4: the current scandal with.
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  Speaker 1: More probably makes sense.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so you know you're going to use your muscle
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  Speaker 4: as a big name and a big brand to know,
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  Speaker 4: go out there and cause all sorts of more ripples
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  Speaker 4: to the college world because you know that when they
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  Speaker 4: find their person, there's going to be a domino effect
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  Speaker 4: because probably going to steal them from another program, and
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  Speaker 4: then that guy's got to red replaced, and so here
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  Speaker 4: we go again. Yep, this is Lane Kiffin all over again.
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  Speaker 4: As a matter of fact, if I were Michigan, why
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  Speaker 4: not call Lane Kiffin that Hoe will take the next
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  Speaker 4: best job. Why not?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah him a little bit more?
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  Speaker 4: He hasn't. I mean, he he had a lot more
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  Speaker 4: invested in Old miss than he does LSU and he
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  Speaker 4: left them at the altar right before the playoffs. That
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  Speaker 4: guy doesn't have a spine. He'll just go to the
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  Speaker 4: highest bidder. I mean we know that. And so so
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  Speaker 4: now they start their coaching search. But the names that
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  Speaker 4: are coming up, and again I would just say if
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  Speaker 4: if there's no interest on Jedfish's part, it's unfortunate that
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  Speaker 4: his nomadic coaching lifestyle has led him to be brought
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  Speaker 4: up his name to get dragged into every coaching roomer.
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  Speaker 1: But this is Michigan and he's been there before.
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  Speaker 4: And if this is something that's on his checklist, I mean,
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  Speaker 4: here we go again, and he is oldest, over and
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  Speaker 4: over and over. He laughed it off when Softy had
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  Speaker 4: him on the show on the station a week ago.
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  Speaker 4: You will coach at Washington next year? Yes, I will
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  Speaker 4: be at Washington next year. I mean that we could
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  Speaker 4: play the clip for you. That was the response from him,
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  Speaker 4: laughing and off we last before he knew that Michigan's
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  Speaker 4: job was going to be open, and so sure enough
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  Speaker 4: there's his name front and center along with Kaylen de
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  Speaker 4: Boor and the craziest twist of events because remember before
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  Speaker 4: Kaylen de bor left here Michigan was his dream job, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: not Alabama. Michigan was the one job that people had circled.
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  Speaker 4: And I think that he had said in the past
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  Speaker 4: as the only job that he would leave Washington.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, because it was closer to where he was from.
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  Speaker 4: And so now here are both of them, and the
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  Speaker 4: strangest twist of P and W fate, both of them
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  Speaker 4: are the most prominent names being linked to being the
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  Speaker 4: next head coach at Michigan. So here we go again.
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  Speaker 4: And as I said, Ashley, I mean, on one hand,
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  Speaker 4: I do feel bad if you just if you truly
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  Speaker 4: keep getting linked to these jobs because of how much
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  Speaker 4: you've moved around and you're not at all interested, but
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  Speaker 4: you just keep getting dragged back in. But on the
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  Speaker 4: other hand, you've kind of earned this. We did or
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  Speaker 4: Troy Danon did. Hire somebody with this reputation. And the
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  Speaker 4: way that the college football world right now is set up.
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  Speaker 4: I mean these coaches, man, these college coaches, they are
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  Speaker 4: soulless man. I mean, if there is a little bit
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  Speaker 4: of a better opportunity with a little bit more money,
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  Speaker 4: they can't wait to be treated like a king again
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  Speaker 4: at the new place, because you know there are a
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  Speaker 4: lot of kids that moved around when they were young,
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  Speaker 4: and it was tough being the new kid at school.
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  Speaker 4: Unless you were really handsome or really pretty and really
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  Speaker 4: like a good.
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  Speaker 1: Athlete and a little end outgoing, then.
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  Speaker 4: You're the greatest thing ever, Like Elvis moved to your school. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I know, and all the other boys sat around like,
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  Speaker 4: what's so crude about this guy?
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  Speaker 3: You know?
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  Speaker 4: That's how I think these coaches. I think they get
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  Speaker 4: addicted to feeling that way. Yeah, and so and so
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  Speaker 4: here we go again. They're brought back up again. And
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  Speaker 4: whether or not it's true whether Kaylin de Boor would
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  Speaker 4: come on here and say, no, no, no, I have no
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  Speaker 4: interest in that job, and it's ridiculous that I'm being
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  Speaker 4: dragged in. He's being dragged in, and so is Jedfish
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  Speaker 4: once again. So here we go, waiting out whether or
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  Speaker 4: not we're going to have to start a coaching search
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  Speaker 4: here in a month or.
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  Speaker 1: So, I know, which is it?
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  Speaker 5: We got Yeah, and you've got the transfer portal opening
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  Speaker 5: in less than a month.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, what two and a half weeks, three weeks, three
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  Speaker 1: weeks from now?
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  Speaker 5: It's I understand why Jedfish is getting brought up, you know,
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  Speaker 5: with Florida and the connection and the Steve Spurrier thing
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  Speaker 5: and the all of that, and now with Michigan, and
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  Speaker 5: he's been an assistant there, and I understand, but it
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  Speaker 5: is frustrating as a call football fan to think like, Okay,
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  Speaker 5: well we made it through.
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  Speaker 1: These things, now all of a sudden things.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I kind of said to myself as I
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  Speaker 5: was listening to one of the shows before us on
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  Speaker 5: our way in and they had a guy on from Detroit.
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  Speaker 5: He brought up Kaylen de Bor and Jed Fish and
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  Speaker 5: he's like, those are the two options that makes the
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  Speaker 5: most sense. Kaylan de Bor is not a good fit
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  Speaker 5: at Alabama. It makes more sense for him to return
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  Speaker 5: to the Midwest. And then he said, and Jedfish, he
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  Speaker 5: can raid the Washington program and head over there.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I got so mad because that's what would happen again.
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  Speaker 5: And all I said, I said, Yeah, I said to myself,
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  Speaker 5: I'm so over college football.
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  Speaker 1: If this is what keeps happening.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Demon Williams is we have to start a quarterback
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  Speaker 4: search if this happened.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: And again, this isn't anything that Jedfish has done has
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: said yes, right, this is just speculation on the media.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: So I'm not saying like, oh my.
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: Gosh, I hate Jed Fisher, I hate this. It's just
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: this ongoing speculation. And then if that does happen. Yeah,
• 17:57
  Speaker 5: every year one program, five programs, however, many coaches are
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: leaving are getting screwed.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's just annoying.
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: And as much as we didn't like what the players
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: and the power that they got, it's the coaches are
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: the ones to blame for all of this. They're supposed
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: to be the adults in the room. We need to
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: slap rules on them. We're always trying to slap rules
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: on player movement. Let's slap my rules on coaches movements
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: so that we don't have to go through this. And
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: yet this is where this is where we're at. And
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't be surprised if we didn't find out later
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: today the Jetfish is the head coach in Michigan. Wouldn't
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: be surprised. I'm not predicting that. I don't have any information.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: Nothing surprises me these days.
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: Nothing surprises you. Ye hell, I wouldn't be surprised. I
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: was joking about it. Lane Kiffin became the next head
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: coach and.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: Be surprised Kaylin de Boor will be surprised.
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: Leaves Alabama to go take Michigan. I mean, all of
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: these things are possibilities, and then the ripple effect is
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: going to be felt. And then what will Washington do
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: if it does happen. They'll go steal somebody from somebody else,
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: and then that person will raid their own program and
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: bring all of them to Washington, and we started all
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: over again. So yeah, it's it's a messy landscape, there's
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: no question about it. And boy, we sure had fun
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: ripping the players for taking advantage of their newfound power.
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: I think we need to really take a look at
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: how coaches can move around so easily. Yea, and without
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: any punishment. I think that that could be. It won't be,
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: but it should be the next step. And trying to
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: make sense now of this a great game of college football.
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: All right, So there's a lot more to discuss. We'll
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: get to it later on in the show. Let's find
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: out what else was on tap?
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: What's on tip?
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: What's on tep?
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: All right, So Sharon Moore is out at Michigan amid scandal,
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: and of course more jetfish rumors have popped up about
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: him possibly leaving Washington, and they are just rumors. There's
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: nobody that has any factual information on that front. In
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: the meantime, I guess Jedfish is getting ready to coach
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: the LA Bowl which is coming up. Also coming up
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: Army Navy this Saturday, and the Heisman Trophy will be
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: announced this Saturday. And they're sure is a groundswell of
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: Diego Pavia support. It feels like every analyst that I'm
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: hearing get interviewed is picking Pavia. Now. Whether or not
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: the nine hundred and fifty voters are influenced the same way,
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: I'm not sure. But this might not be the slam
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: dunk that we thought it was the night that Indiana
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: was holding up the Big Ten Championship trophy. We thought
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: Fernando Mendoza had locked it up. But that might not
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: be the case. Seahawks getting ready for the Colts this
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: Sunday at one twenty five. And yes, not only might
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: Philip Rivers, forty four year old Philip Rivers be in uniform,
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: most people believe. Most people believe right now that he's
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: going to start the game Sunday against the Seahawks. And
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: we'll talk about that in our next segment. Week number
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: fifteen of the National Football League season starts tonight with
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: Atlanta against Tampa Bay. Tampa Bay getting a couple weapons back.
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: Mike Evans is going to be back for them, so
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: is former UW receiver Jalen McMillan, and so Tampa Bay
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: and Atlanta, and of course, fantasy football playoffs start for
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: a lot of people tonight, so I would imagine there's
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: going to be a pretty good audience for that alone. Kraken,
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: we'll talk about this later this hour. Boy did they
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: need that win three to two and overtime over the
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: Los Angeles Kings, a late goal in regulation to tie it,
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: an overtime goal on a power play four on three
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: power play from Vince Dunn. It was a thing of
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: beauty and the Kraken get a much needed win last
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: night against the Kings. And the Major League Baseball Winner
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: meetings did conclude yesterday not a lot of activity, pretty
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: much zero trade activity, and yet three big free agent
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: signings while the GMS were down in Orlando. Yesterday's was
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: Pete Alonso signing way too large of a contract with
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: the desperate Baltimore Orioles, who decided we're finally going to
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: spend money this year and then they overspent. I don't
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: think Pete Alonso's worth thirty one million dollars a year,
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: but he is a Baltimore oriole right now. We'll talk
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: a little bit about that later on in the show.
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: But coming up next, is Philip Rivers really going to
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: get the start Sunday against Mike McDonald's defense. I can
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: hardly believe I'm saying it. We'll discuss it. It's Chuck
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: and Ashley with you Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM.
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: I don't know if you keep track of these things.
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: I don't know if you set your watch like your
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: morning routine around us in any fashion. So maybe I
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: don't have to tell you this, but we have blown
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: up the clock a little bit this hour to accommodate
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: the schedule of Kurt Warner so we could have them
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: on to talk about Philip Rivers. So he's gonna join
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: us at seven forty this morning. We got the roundtable
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: coming up at eight o'clock, and so we've got this
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: segment Ashley to talk about a few really interesting stories
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: on a interesting sports day from the National Football League,
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: and also to have a little bit of fun. Let's
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: play a little bit of a game here. Okay, let's
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: play the old man game. Oh all right, seems to
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: be a topic going around in the National Football League
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: right now, age and whatnot. So let's play a little
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: bit of the old man game old analytics if you will, okay, perfect,
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: I can't wait. All right, Let's start Philip Rivers. Is
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: there a better chance Philip Rivers leads the Colts to
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: a wins Sunday against the Seahawks or that he breaks
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: a hip crossing the street going into the stadiums.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: Second one second one breaks the hip? For sure?
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm with you, And I don't mean that because
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: I just mean it because he has I don't think
• 23:53
  Speaker 5: he has any chance to beat the Seahawks exactly.
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: That's a precisely I mean. I don't think he's going
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: to break his hip. He's forty four years old, for
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: goodness sake. I don't think I'm going to break my
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: I'm ten years older than Philip Rivers. I don't think
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: that he's going to break his hip. But I think
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: he's got a better chance of breaking his hip walking
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: across the street than he does being activated and beat.
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: Mike McDonald and the Seahawks defense five years removed from
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: the National Football League.
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, just think about what happened to Max Brozmer,
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: and he's young and nimble and then.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: Has been practicing, has been practicing with the team.
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I just can't see him laugh.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: I can't.
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's a great story. And I really thought
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: when they signed him, the idea was we're in the
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: playoff race. Can we get him up to speed in time?
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: Can we not get eliminated with Bret ripping at quarterback
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: or Riley Leonard hobbled at quarterback? Can we just win
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: one of the two somehow squeeze it out and then
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: maybe get Rivers up to speed for the last couple
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: of weeks of the year and we might have a
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: better option with him. But to thrust him right into
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: this game against this defense, Yeah, it seems he's all
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: for it, and it's a great story no matter what happens.
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: Yes, and again I wish it wasn't happening against us
• 25:06
  Speaker 5: because I'd be cheering for him.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: But right now I'm cheering for him to get smushed
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: into the ground.
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: Maybe maybe we're crazy. I see zero chance that Philip
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: Rivers I'm not saying the Colts have zero chance of
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: winning this weekend, but zero chance that Philip Rivers starts
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: and is ready to beat any team in the National
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: Football League, much less the Seahawks and their defense. Yeah,
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: all right, next, one better chance that Pete Carroll is
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: back next season for the Raiders, or that he accidentally
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: craps himself on the sidelines before the season comes to
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: a close.
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: It does get very excited sometimes, the old man game. Yeah,
• 25:43
  Speaker 5: it is the old man game, more about more.
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: About being old, more of an old joke.
• 25:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know what I'm gonna say, There's probably a
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: better chance he craps himself because I just don't think
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: they're bringing him back again.
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: We are step for step on this. Even though I
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: think Pete Carroll is very youthful and is not a
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: risk to do that at any moment, I still think
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: there's a better chance he does that before the season
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: comes to a close, probably in a crisp pair of
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: white pants. Then it would be that he returns to
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: the Raiders next season. I mean, think about it. They
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: brought him in there because they thought they were close, Yes,
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: maybe not Super Bowl close.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: Also is a little delusional on their part.
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: But you don't bring in a seventy five year old
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: head coach if you're rebuilding. Okay, they brought him in
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: because they felt with what they have in house, they
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: should be a player or two and a little bit
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: of veteran wisdom away from being a playoff contender. They
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: have the number one pick in the draft right now,
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: so they if nothing else learned this season, we have
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: to rebuild. We don't have a choice. We thought we
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: were closer than we actually are. We're the worst team
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: in the National Football League. We can't rebuild around a
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: seventy five year old head coach.
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: I feel like they'd talk to anybody. A lot of
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: people could have told them that you're really bad. This
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: isn't probably the route to go.
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: And I get why Pete took it and brings his enthusiasm.
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: Is like, yeah, I love coaching. This might be my
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: last chance. And sadly, I think that was your last chance.
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: So I certainly don't blame him for taking the job.
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: I think it was kind of foolish that the Raiders
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: thought they were that close.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: That's the foolish part profession and I.
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: Didn't think they were that far away. I really didn't.
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: I didn't think Geno Smith was that bad. Geno Smith's
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: been the worst quarterback starting quarterback in the NFL this year.
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: It's not even close.
• 27:41
  Speaker 8: He has been terrible. He has been terrible, even worse
• 27:45
  Speaker 8: than when Russell gets in the game. Well, maybe not
• 27:47
  Speaker 8: that all right, Next one, Travis Kelsey. Better chance, Travis Kelsey,
• 27:54
  Speaker 8: who can't figure out why he's not playing better might
• 27:59
  Speaker 8: be because you're in the old man game. Better chance
• 28:02
  Speaker 8: Travis Kelsey reverts to.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: His pro both Pro Bowl form.
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: Before the seasons comes to a close, or that Taylor
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: talks him into getting a metal alert bracelet just.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: In case met alert bracelet. And I think his old
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: form is lung gone. I mean, did you see him.
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: He seems to think he can find it again. He
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: just can't figure it out. Where did it go?
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: That third interception on Mahomes was not on Mahomes, that
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: was all Kelsey.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: I mean, as he's like, well, what's the football?
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: I think he's still a good player. I think the
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: Chiefs problem is that they're still acting as if he's
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: still old. Travis Kelcey, Yeah, I mean, I don't think
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: Patrick Mahomes is worse than what he's been in the past.
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: But Patrick Mahomes does not have one hundred and thirty
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: catch fifteen hundred yards from a tight end, yeah, fifteen
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: touchdown Travis Kelcey anymore. Travis Kelcey was so good and
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: so effective in his role that, yes, he did make
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: everybody else better. Think about how much attention you had
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: to pay Travis Kelcey and he still ended up killing you.
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: I think the Chiefs are declining because they're still acting
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: like they still have old Travis Kelcey. They now no
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: longer have Tyreek Hill or Travis yr This is like
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: Trevor Kelcey. This is like somebody else.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: He's not bad, he's that third Kelsey brother you didn't know.
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but he's just not what you had. Yeah, And
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: the offense seems to they've never had a good running game.
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: And yet they've also had seasons in which, after Tyreek
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: Hill left, will find receiver. But that's because you had
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: this tight end who did things no weather tight end
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: could do.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and now he's not that guy anymore. He's just
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: a guy now, Yeah, just a normal tight end. Uh huh, yeah, smart, Yeah.
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: But he's not impactful. And I think the Chiefs have
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: still under the delusion, well we got Travis Kelcey, we
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: don't need this. Yeah, that to me has been their
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: biggest problem. Final one, Uh and the old Man game.
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: I can't wait Joe Burrow retires from football prematurely or
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: can't figure out how to reset the microwave clock after
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: a power outage. What do you think is more likely?
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: I think it's had some concussion. Yeah, I might not
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: be aged.
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: I do think it's more likely that he retires from
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: football early. After what he's been talking about. It seems
• 30:32
  Speaker 5: like he's kind of taking that Andrew luckroute of maybe
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: maybe I want to value the rest of my life.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: I've got all this money. I want to spend it
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: and enjoy my life.
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: I don't need to make more, and I don't need
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: to get injured and spend my whole life rehabbing.
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: We are in step on every single one of this.
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: He sounds like somebody that's like contemplating leaving, not trying
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: to get to another team. No, like I don't need
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: to do this anymore. Yeah, tired of getting beat up
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: and I don't want to play the game another way.
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: I heard a stat this morning that he's been hit
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: more than any other quarterback in his career. Like for
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: his career, including the playoffs, he has been hit more
• 31:06
  Speaker 5: than any other quarterback in the NFL.
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and part of that is his fault. I mean, dude,
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: Tom Brady didn't play the game that way trying to
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: prove to everybody that he was more masculine and physical
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: than everybody else. He was tough, yeah, tough as nails,
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: but he didn't go out there every Sunday trying to
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: prove he was tougher and stronger than a linebacker and
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: Burrow does. It's his own stupidity that has cost him
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: all the injuries that he's gone through. Partly he's had
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: a bad offensive line too, but you know, he's got
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: to be smarter. And so I think a lot of it,
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: not all of it, A lot of it rests on
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: his own shoulders why he's had so many injuries. But
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: he does not sound like somebody that enjoys the game anymore.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: No, definitely not.
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: And I wouldn't be surprised at all if this offseason
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: he didn't step away from it all.
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: Coming up next, Kurt Warner's going to join us here
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: on the program, talk about Philip Rivers, Sam Darnold and more.
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: It's Sports Radio ninety three point three. Kh arfm Hey,
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: good morning, Happy Thursday to you. Yeah, messed around with
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: the clock a little bit here this morning, and I
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: don't know if you need to know that, but just
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: in case it's throwing you off a little bit, I
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: wanted to let you know because we want to be
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: able to have as much time as possible to chat
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: with our next guest. Kurt Warner is going to be
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: joining us here in a moment, the former quarterback, not
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: the former Sea Offs running back. This is the only
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: city where we have to clarify that in all of America.
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: I think twelve man Roundtable's coming your way from eight
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: to nine. So Greg Bell, Hugh Millan cannot wait to
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: get huge thoughts. Not that I don't want to hear
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: Greg's thoughts on Philip Rivers, but I've already heard them
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: this week. Haven't heard the QB one's thoughts on this
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: Philip Rivers story all week long, and so looking forward
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: to that coming up at eight o'clock. And the same
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: thing goes for our next joining us now on the program.
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: You know him from NFL Network. You know him from
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: the Monday night broadcast. Right here on k JR. Does
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: the color analyst for Monday Night football for west Wood One.
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: But you know him better as Hall of Fame quarterback
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: of the Rams and Cardinals. He joins us now here
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: on Chuck and Buck. Kurt Warner is with us. Good morning, sir,
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: Good morning, how are you hey? Thank you very much
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: for being with us. I got to know, did the
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: Colts call you?
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: The Colts did not call me. No, I'm a little
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: too old for that call.
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: I don't know, Philip Rivers, I mean, five years away
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: from the game, tell me, I mean, is this even
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: possible to be this? I'm not worried as much about
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: forty four years old, Kurt. I'm worried about for him.
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: I mean not from a Seahawks perspective, because it's probably
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: gonna benefit us. But can somebody at that quarterback position
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: be away from this game five years and in two
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: days get ready two days of practice, get ready for
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: a National Football League game?
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: I mean, I can't answer that because I've never been there,
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: and I don't know who who has, you know, I mean,
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: it's it obviously sounds crazy, you know, I do remember,
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: you know a number of years after I retired. But
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: the Cardinals here, we're having some issues with the quarterbacks
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: and some injuries, and you know, their speculation and maybe
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: they should call Kurt. I remember going out in the
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: backyard and throwing the football around a little bit like
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: an if they call, you know, you know, will I
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: entertain it and all of those things. So, you know,
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: I kind of remember back to a few years after
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: being out of the league, and you know, my biggest
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: issue wasn't the physical part of it in terms of
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: you know, throwing a football or or being in shape.
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: My biggest worry and concern was the mental aspect of
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: you know, being able to get up to speed. So
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: you know, A, I could have success. B I could
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: protect myself from that standpoint. You know that that you know,
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: being out of the game for five years and understanding
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: you know, the athletes in the game and what it
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: takes to play at that level. You know, I mean,
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: to me, it would be an incredible feed for him
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: to come back after a week and get out there
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: and and perform extremely well. I mean probably even to
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: you know, to perform at an average level after that
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: would be pretty incredible Because I respect the game so much,
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: you know that even when I was considered it, you know,
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: it was like, man, there was nothing in my mind
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: that said, oh, I can step back on that field
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: and in the short term be the same player I was,
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: you know years ago. I just respect the game and
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: what it is, and you know what it takes to
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: be great at this level. I respected it too much
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: to think that I could be rate you know quickly.
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: You know that I think I could get up to
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: speed and get back there. Well yeah, I mean I
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: think all of us competitors think that. But that's kind
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: of what I look at here is, man. You know,
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: I respect Philip for giving it a shot, and you know,
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: for them to you know, try to uncover everything to
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: have success. And I think like most of us were intrigued,
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: We're excited, were interested. We just wanted to end at
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: least fairly well, you know, like that's my biggest thing
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: is I just don't want this to be a bad thing,
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: you know. And you know I should say another thing
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: that I was concerned about, you know when when I
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: was even just considering it, and the Cardinals never called it,
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: so it was never anything like like this with Philip.
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: But the other thing was just you know, the reaction
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: of your body to things that you haven't done. Like
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: I didn't want to be a guy that went back
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: out there and like you know, pull the hamstring or
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: pulled the muscle or or or hurt something, you know,
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: in the first ten plays of my first hit, because
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: my body wasn't ready you know, for a quick movement
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: or to take a hit or whatever that was. And
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: so that was another concern of mine. And so I
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: think that's the big concern for me, you know, as
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: he goes out there, I don't want it to be
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: you know, so anticlimacting and he comes back and he
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: gets hurt, and you know, it may be what we
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: all expect. And I don't want him to go out
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: there and just get beat up because he's just not
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: mentally able to you know, to handle the speed and
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: everything that's coming at him and the new offensive and
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: all of that stuff. And so I think there are
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: some distinct challenges, without a doubt, and you have to
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: respect the game enough to to just say, you know,
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: I think it will be hard, you know, for for
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: anybody to come back and have you know, a level
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: of success in such a short period of.
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: Time from a personal experience, and I cannot relate to
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: what it's like to be in NFL quarterback. But there
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: was a time where and I know you're probably picturing
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: radio guy, just a dull boy, but there was a
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: time I was a pretty good shape individual and thought
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: that you know, you know, uh, thought I was incredibly fit,
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: and I decided to go out and play some flag football,
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: which I hadn't done in a while, and I, you know,
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: and I did well. But the next morning I could
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: hardly move because I was using muscles that I hadn't used,
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: even though I was going to the gym and I
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: was cardio work and weightlifting and everything else and felt
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: like I was in peak physical condition, I hadn't used
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: those muscles. So that was one of the things I
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: was wanting to ask you about, because it's something we
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: haven't talked that much about. I mean, just taking a
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: hit from an NFL player when you haven't done it
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: in five years, What is that going to do to
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: rattle Philip rivers bones on Sunday?
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: You know that anytime I do things now that I
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: haven't done in a while, the body definitely doesn't react
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: the way it did when I was younger. You know,
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: and you know even I mean, I think there's something
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: to you know, like when you're used to getting to
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: taking hits and your body's kind of a shock absorber
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: to a degree, you know that that it's just something normal,
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: even though it's you know, you don't want a three
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: hundred pound guy ever falling on top of you. Your
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: body just, you know, is used to that, and it
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: is used to that. You know that four or that
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: reaction and you bounce back from it, you know, completely
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: different than you know, I might have somebody come up
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: and you know, hit me now in a pick up
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: basketball game, and you think nothing of it in the moment,
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: and then you know you're walking around later you're like, ash,
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: what in the heck happened? Because I don't remember anything
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: crazy happening, but my body's sore now, So yeah, I
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: just again, it's it's such uncharted territory. I don't think
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: any of us really know, And I don't really know
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: what Philip's been doing, you know, I know he's been
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: coaching in a round ball a little bit. I don't
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: know he goes out there and throws and does a
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: little seven on seven with it, like all of that stuff.
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: You to me, because again I just realized what goes
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: into playing this position and how fast it goes in
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: the details that make the great greater or that you know,
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: make the you know, obviously a starting quarterback in the
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: NFL have success, and so it's just gonna be it's
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: gonna be a fascinating experience. And you know, I will
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: be very interested if he is, you know, thrown out
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: there on Sunday, you know, against a really good football
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: team and uh, you know, with three or four days
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: of practice.
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And that's the other aspect of the other side.
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: How do you deal with it? Kurt warners, whether it's
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: a Hall of Famer talking about Philip Rivers looking like
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: he's going to not just play and suit up for
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: the Colts, but might start on Sunday against the Seahawks.
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: I have a hard time believing, Kurt that Philip Rivers,
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: even though he had Shane Steichen's offense, that he was
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: running there with his high school team. Can't imagine he
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: was able to replicate Mike McDonald's defense out there on
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: the high school practice field. So on the flip side,
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: if you're a defensive coach, I mean, what are you doing?
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: I mean, licking your chops, no mercy, uh, getting ready
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: to prepare for possibly facing Philip Rivers on Sunday.
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think, like anything, you know, you
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: have to you kind of temper it. But but I'm
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: sure people in the locker room are going seriously, like seriously,
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: we're you know, we're going out there on Sunday and
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: you know, in a critical game and we're going up
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: against the guy that just came off the couch and
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: has been out of the league for five years. I mean,
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: I'm sure that's you know, kind of the sentiment a
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: little bit in the locker room. Now, you never want
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: to disrespect anybody, especially a great player like Philip, you know,
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: when he was playing and in his prime. But that
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: has to be part of, you know, the thought process
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: for this team, Like as you said, you know, licking
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: your chops to a degree, just saying, oh my gosh,
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: you know, no way in the first game back against
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: Dust and our defense is this guy going to have
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: any semblance of success. But at the same time, like
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: I said, you don't want to disrespect anybody. You don't
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: want to book past anybody, even though it's a crazy
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: scenario that probably nobody in that locker room has ever
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: experienced anything like it before. But you don't want to,
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: you know, get over confident or kind of look past
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: it and go, oh, well, he can't have success. We
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: have no idea, Like, we really have no idea what
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: this is going to look like. So you want to
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: respect it enough that you go out and put in
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: the work and you perform well, you know, to have
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: success and not let him have success. But yeah, there's
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: no question. I mean, as much as we're talking about
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: it and I'm thinking about that, you know in my office. Yeah,
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: you know, like oh my gosh, you know, going up
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: again this Like what's phil up thinking right now? And
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: I know he said, like, you know, excited and nervous.
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: I mean I can only imagine, like you know, because
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: you know there's a part of Philip too that's like, man,
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: I don't want to go out and embarrass myself, like
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: you know at the end of the day, I mean,
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: we would all look past it and go, oh, it
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: was crazy anyways, And so you know, I didn't have success.
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: Nobody expected me to have success. But still as competitors
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: and these guys that have been great in this business,
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: you never want to embarrass yourself either, and so you know,
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: I know he's going through some of those emotions, and
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: I'm sure you know the same thing on different levels.
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: It's happened in the locker room up there.
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: Well yeah, it's just a phenomenal story, no matter how
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: the result comes out. Phenomenal story. And we're getting a
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: little sneak preview because I can't wait. I watch you
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: guys on NFL Network every Sunday morning, so I can't
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: wait to hear you break it down further. Then. But
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: before we let you go in our last couple of minutes,
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: I do want to get your thoughts. I feel like
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: to be wasting an opportunity if I didn't get Kurt
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: Warner's thoughts on Sam Darnold and the season that he's
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: having here with the Seahawks, his first year in the
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: Pacific Northwest.
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: I mean, Sam's I think doing a great job. I
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: think it's been a really great fit for him with
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: what you know they want to do in the way
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: that they're playing. You know, Sam is a gifted player,
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: no question, and we've seen that and it's been fun
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: to watch him grow and kind of come into his
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: own these last couple of years. But you know, I
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: love the system that they're running and how it makes
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: it I think easier on a quarterback with a lot
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: of their multiple tight end sets and running the football
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: and play action under center to simplify some things on
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: top of the other things. I mean, JSN has been incredible.
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: He's been a joy to watch, you know, really come
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: into his own and the route runner that he is
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: and what he's meant to Sam Darnold. But it's been fun.
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: I think coach is doing a tremendous job up there
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: with the defense. I think this is a really really
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: good football team. And you know, it probably will at
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: some point come down to Sam performing in the past
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: game against some of these good teams in the playoffs
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: and and can he you know, take that next step
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: from obviously where he was last year in the playoffs
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: and what he's done in the regular season, Uh, to
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: be a guy that can you know, lead and carry
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: this team when needed in the in the drop back
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: pass game. But but really love where he's at right now.
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: I think this has been a great fit for him,
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: and it's been a great start to the season so
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: far for for everybody.
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: Else who is JSN most similar to Larry and Kwan,
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: Tory Holt or Isaac Bruce, which one is the most
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: who is he? Remind you?
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: I would probably say Isaac. You know, Isaac as great
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: as all those other players were, right, Isaac was the
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: best route runner that I was ever around. His ability
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: to stop and start, his ability to explode out of
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: his cuts, the nuance that he brought to the route running,
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: and when I watched Jasn, that to me is what
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: jumps out. I mean, he's obviously physically talented and everything,
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: but his nuance and details to his route running and
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: how he's able to create space, you know, by by
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: that nuance man it to me he's the best going
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: right now in the NFL in terms of that aspect
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: of things, And so I would probably tie him. You know,
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: it's close to Isaac as any of those guys.
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: Well, if Philip Rivers ends up being the Seahawks throwing
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: three touchdown passes, I'm expecting you, Tom Brady, everybody else
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: to be returning to the NFL by next year.
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: So Jesse, I'm ten years older than that now. So
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: when I was forty four, I probably would have thought
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: I could have done it as well. At fifty four.
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: I am not stupid enough to think that there would
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: be any chance of that.
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: I believe in you, Kurt Warner. I believe in you.
• 46:33
  Speaker 4: Stopped oubting yourself.
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: I greatly appreciate that, but I don't believe in myself
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: at this point.
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: So you need to author the second greatest American underdog
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: story in NFL history. Come on, now, that.
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: Would be fun. If you could guarantee I would have success.
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: No guarantees on that in this business. So well, we'll
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: all enjoy it. It'll be an interesting experience, and I
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: know everybody will be paying attention.
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: All right, Well, thanks for joining us. Great stuff. We
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: appreciate it, and I'll be watching Sunday. Thanks Kurt WARNERFL
• 47:07
  Speaker 4: Hall of Famer, former Rams Cardinals the quarterback joining us
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: right here on Chuck and Buck in the Mornings. Coming
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: up next. Well here from our QB one, Hugh Millen
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: haven't had his thoughts at least on the morning show
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: all week long on this Philip Rivers story. Greg Bell
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: of course will join us as well. It's Roundtable time
• 47:26
  Speaker 4: on Sports Radio ninety three point three KHARFM. All right,
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: final segment here, The twelve man round table here on
• 47:43
  Speaker 4: a Thursday Seahawks versus Colts. A lot of time spent
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: this hour on Philip Rivers, who I guess we don't
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: know if he's starting for sure. It just seems to
• 47:52
  Speaker 4: be trending that way. When Greg suggested that yesterday in
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: our seven o five segment, I was like, no way,
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: But yeah, he was onto something. He is trending towards
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: starting in this football game. So certainly this has become
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: a lot more interesting to a lot more people the
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: Philip Rivers show on Sunday. Greg, but we still have
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: a football game to win. Better not lose this one.
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: What's the key to getting this done on Sunday?
• 48:20
  Speaker 9: Well, he is started stopping Jonathan Taylor on early downs
• 48:23
  Speaker 9: about Rivers, Jen and Wols who played with him with
• 48:26
  Speaker 9: the Chargers and the beginning of his career at the
• 48:29
  Speaker 9: end of Rivers' time with the Chargers, and he said yesterday, Ain,
• 48:33
  Speaker 9: no way, Philip Rivers has come out out of retirement
• 48:36
  Speaker 9: to sign with the Colts, get on a plane and
• 48:38
  Speaker 9: take a five hour ride to Seattle at Christmas time
• 48:41
  Speaker 9: to not play.
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 48:44
  Speaker 9: Yeah, And so they have game planned for Rivers ever
• 48:48
  Speaker 9: since Tuesday when they got the news that he was
• 48:50
  Speaker 9: trying out. I had tried out, so they think he's playing.
• 48:53
  Speaker 9: Mike McDonald's game plan is that he's playing, and I
• 48:56
  Speaker 9: expect him to get the full Mike McDonald experience. Like
• 49:00
  Speaker 9: Q said, maybe even more things they haven't seen. He
• 49:03
  Speaker 9: hasn't shown yet in the regular season. It's gonna be
• 49:07
  Speaker 9: Nick emn worry is a five tick defensive end and
• 49:10
  Speaker 9: nine tech defensive end moving all over.
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: The field, full meal deal.
• 49:15
  Speaker 9: As we said, this is now for the first time
• 49:17
  Speaker 9: all season, they've got their full defense and everybody on
• 49:20
  Speaker 9: board and healthy. That's where the game should be won.
• 49:24
  Speaker 9: But they got to stop Jonathan Taylor in early down
• 49:26
  Speaker 9: so that it's not an easier third down situation for
• 49:29
  Speaker 9: Rivers on Sunday. I think they'll do that. I think
• 49:32
  Speaker 9: they're running defense and their front four the key to
• 49:35
  Speaker 9: their season. Continue to have a big seat, and Byron
• 49:37
  Speaker 9: Murphy has been an MVP for them both in run
• 49:40
  Speaker 9: stopping and crushing a quarterback. It's the most interesting regular
• 49:44
  Speaker 9: season game I can think of covering, maybe since Brett
• 49:48
  Speaker 9: Farve on a Monday night in Oakland the day after
• 49:50
  Speaker 9: his father died, and that was way back in two
• 49:52
  Speaker 9: thousand and three. That's probably the most. That's the only
• 49:56
  Speaker 9: thing I can even equate to this. It's going to
• 49:58
  Speaker 9: be a spectacle to be It's gonna be wild to
• 50:01
  Speaker 9: see it's unfold. It's like a Disney.
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: Movie, it is.
• 50:06
  Speaker 9: I think they win something like twenty four to ten
• 50:09
  Speaker 9: to move to eleven and three and shut set up
• 50:11
  Speaker 9: a Battle Royale with the Rams on Thursday night.
• 50:14
  Speaker 4: I don't know what it is about the Seahawks ever
• 50:16
  Speaker 4: since I moved here. Maybe it was going on forever.
• 50:19
  Speaker 4: They never, of course, this happened to them because they
• 50:22
  Speaker 4: always have something interesting going on. Never seen a franchise
• 50:26
  Speaker 4: be more consistently interesting than the Seattle Seahawks. All right here,
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: what are your final thoughts getting ready for this match
• 50:33
  Speaker 4: up here?
• 50:34
  Speaker 10: Well, I just think that Mike McDonald is finally getting
• 50:37
  Speaker 10: all the tools that he wants with the health of
• 50:40
  Speaker 10: the defense. And you know, the percentage of plays where
• 50:44
  Speaker 10: the Seahawks bring five plus rushers this is straight out
• 50:47
  Speaker 10: of the NFL stat portal, twenty one percent. That's twenty
• 50:51
  Speaker 10: fourth in the league. But the percent of plays where
• 50:55
  Speaker 10: they bring five rushers that results in a negative EPA
• 51:00
  Speaker 10: expected points average, that's sixty seven percent that's number one
• 51:04
  Speaker 10: in the league. So the Seahawks don't do it a lot,
• 51:07
  Speaker 10: but they're really effective when they do. And then you know,
• 51:11
  Speaker 10: they've been number one in the use of nickel in
• 51:14
  Speaker 10: all the NFL. They just don't play bass. But prior
• 51:19
  Speaker 10: to Emon Worry getting in the lineup, they were eighteenth
• 51:23
  Speaker 10: in the use of dime. Now that's they're up to fifth.
• 51:27
  Speaker 10: And so just the pieces I think we're gonna see,
• 51:31
  Speaker 10: We're gonna start to see more of those pressures as
• 51:34
  Speaker 10: evidenced by their their they're a great success rate, and
• 51:38
  Speaker 10: they've got talented blitzers. Even Worries Sony can get home
• 51:43
  Speaker 10: and and of course Witherspoon can get home. I like
• 51:48
  Speaker 10: the fact that they're doing a better job of containing it.
• 51:51
  Speaker 10: Drive me crazy how they would lose contain on They
• 51:54
  Speaker 10: have this unbelievably well designed blitz pressure. They get a
• 51:57
  Speaker 10: free runner, but then right and a quarterback is allowed
• 52:01
  Speaker 10: to escape out to his right.
• 52:03
  Speaker 4: So I think they've kind of buttoned that up.
• 52:05
  Speaker 10: I just I'm I'm just gonna grab my popcorn and
• 52:08
  Speaker 10: watch how this man Mike McDonald now that he has all.
• 52:13
  Speaker 11: Of his parts.
• 52:13
  Speaker 10: Remember now they lost to the Buccaneers. They had they
• 52:16
  Speaker 10: had four starters out, you know, and so you've got
• 52:19
  Speaker 10: an emerging The experiences is exponentially raising for emon worry
• 52:25
  Speaker 10: so that they feel like they can do more things.
• 52:28
  Speaker 10: I just can't wait for this mad scientist to unleash
• 52:31
  Speaker 10: for the last month.
• 52:32
  Speaker 11: And it starts against a forty four year old.
• 52:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think, Philip, I know how gung holy is,
• 52:37
  Speaker 4: but I think I would have watched that Seahawks defense
• 52:40
  Speaker 4: film and said, how about next week? How about we
• 52:42
  Speaker 4: start next week?
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 52:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: Have you not.
• 52:46
  Speaker 11: Acquired any wisdom in these forty four years?
• 52:49
  Speaker 4: You know your football, don't you? But I get the
• 52:53
  Speaker 4: forty nine ers next week.
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: It's not a picnic for him. A good point.
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: At least he's got a week and a half to
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: get ready, as opposed to like two soft practices. Greg,
• 53:03
  Speaker 4: I think pretty convinced twenty four to ten this is
• 53:07
  Speaker 4: you know, this is gonna be a runaway. I'm like
• 53:09
  Speaker 4: forty four to three. That's where I'm at with this game.
• 53:12
  Speaker 4: That's what I think it's gonna end up being. And
• 53:14
  Speaker 4: I think it could be a lot worse. But they're
• 53:16
  Speaker 4: gonna call off the dogs. That's what I think is
• 53:18
  Speaker 4: gonna happen. All right, gentlemen, awesome stuff. Thank you very much,
• 53:21
  Speaker 4: we appreciate it. We'll do it again next week and
• 53:24
  Speaker 4: we'll talk to you both tomorrow. Thanks.
• 53:26
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• 53:29
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• 53:32
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• 53:35
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• 53:42
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• 53:45
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• 53:48
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• 53:51
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• 53:54
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• 53:58
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• 54:02
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• 54:05
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• 54:09
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• 55:32
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• 55:35
  Speaker 4: is going to join us at nine point thirty to
• 55:36
  Speaker 4: talk more about that as well. But there's another big
• 55:38
  Speaker 4: story going on out there, one that's kind of shook
• 55:42
  Speaker 4: the foundation of college football once again. For the actual information,
• 55:48
  Speaker 4: Sharon Moore, the head coach at Michigan who took over
• 55:51
  Speaker 4: for Jim Harbaugh following the National Championship game, Well, he
• 55:55
  Speaker 4: was there for two years and he won't be there
• 55:58
  Speaker 4: any longer. Yesterday he was fired. It was a surprise,
• 56:02
  Speaker 4: and it was with cause I almost even felt at
• 56:05
  Speaker 4: the time like Michigan feels two years into this that
• 56:09
  Speaker 4: maybe Ohio State's getting too big of a lead over them,
• 56:13
  Speaker 4: and they're like, we need to get one of these
• 56:14
  Speaker 4: big guys now. And then they kind of concocted some
• 56:18
  Speaker 4: story to try to get Sharon Moore out so they
• 56:21
  Speaker 4: didn't have to pay him. But no, there's substantive reason
• 56:26
  Speaker 4: for why they let him go. We don't know all
• 56:28
  Speaker 4: the details, and I'm not going to go as far
• 56:30
  Speaker 4: as speculating, but what we do know is an inappropriate
• 56:34
  Speaker 4: relationship with a staff member and that led to his dismissal.
• 56:41
  Speaker 4: And then Sharon went home to a wife that had
• 56:44
  Speaker 4: heard the rumors, and there was a domestic situation that
• 56:49
  Speaker 4: took place, and before the night came to a close,
• 56:52
  Speaker 4: Sharon Moore had committed not just breaking and entering, but
• 56:57
  Speaker 4: also aggravated assault charge as well. So he went to
• 57:02
  Speaker 4: someone's house. People are reading into it as maybe the
• 57:05
  Speaker 4: person that snitched on him.
• 57:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I've heard that, or the person who he was
• 57:09
  Speaker 5: having the relationship.
• 57:12
  Speaker 4: Maybe maybe one or the other. Maybe that is the
• 57:14
  Speaker 4: case as well. But nonetheless, he ended up after getting firing,
• 57:18
  Speaker 4: being arrested and is still in custody. So obviously some
• 57:23
  Speaker 4: pretty serious charges. Somebody as famous as Sharon Moore with
• 57:27
  Speaker 4: that kind of money usually is out of jail by now,
• 57:29
  Speaker 4: but their charges are serious enough that he is still
• 57:33
  Speaker 4: in custody right now. So I think that probably ends
• 57:37
  Speaker 4: the portion of speculation that we need to do because
• 57:42
  Speaker 4: it is affecting us here in Washington, and one hell
• 57:46
  Speaker 4: of a twist. Many immediately the names that have come up,
• 57:52
  Speaker 4: and I thought when I first heard the names that
• 57:54
  Speaker 4: they were part of a long list. You know, this
• 57:57
  Speaker 4: is one of the most coveted jobs in football, certainly
• 58:00
  Speaker 4: in college football, and so I knew that the speculation
• 58:04
  Speaker 4: immediately would kick in and the story would come a
• 58:06
  Speaker 4: lot more about even though it's a fantastic story, people
• 58:10
  Speaker 4: are going to be a lot more concerned about who's
• 58:12
  Speaker 4: going to replace Sharon more than the future of Sharon Moore.
• 58:16
  Speaker 4: And so I thought initially what I was hearing when
• 58:21
  Speaker 4: both Kaylan de Boor and Jedfish were being listed was
• 58:25
  Speaker 4: they were part of a large list.
• 58:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah, these would be great possibilities, like five or six.
• 58:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe ken to twelve. Yeah, not one to two,
• 58:36
  Speaker 4: not the entire list.
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that list sucks.
• 58:39
  Speaker 4: Because by the time I woke up this morning, it
• 58:41
  Speaker 4: was only Kaylan de Boor and Jedfish and also Mentor,
• 58:46
  Speaker 4: the defensive coordinator there at Michigan, young guy with a
• 58:48
  Speaker 4: really bright future. But really, the speculation is that there's
• 58:53
  Speaker 4: no way that the Jim Harbaugh era is continuing at Michigan.
• 58:57
  Speaker 4: This is now the second scandal that has been involved
• 59:01
  Speaker 4: with Sharon Moore, and so they believe they want new blood,
• 59:04
  Speaker 4: and not just any old new blood. They're gonna want
• 59:08
  Speaker 4: a huge name in college football because they are losing
• 59:11
  Speaker 4: ground to their rival Ohio State and others here the
• 59:14
  Speaker 4: last couple of years. So that said, I wake up
• 59:18
  Speaker 4: this morning too. Who's going to be the next Michigan
• 59:21
  Speaker 4: head coach? Kaylin de Boor or Jedfish You've gotta be
• 59:26
  Speaker 4: hitting me and that's it.
• 59:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I was listening on the way in
• 59:29
  Speaker 5: and there was a guy from Detroit talking and he said, well,
• 59:32
  Speaker 5: de Boor, you know, it's he's not a good fit
• 59:34
  Speaker 5: at Alabama and he'd be better, but he wants to
• 59:37
  Speaker 5: go back to the Midwest. And he was sounding like
• 59:39
  Speaker 5: someone who really, you know, is aware that Debor might
• 59:42
  Speaker 5: not be happy or I mean, he doesn't look happy.
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: He looks happier, but not happy.
• 59:47
  Speaker 4: He doesn't look like he doesn't look like he looked here.
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
• 59:50
  Speaker 5: And and then the other one was or but Jedfish
• 59:53
  Speaker 5: and then they can just raid Washington's program.
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: I was like, come on now, man.
• 59:57
  Speaker 4: And that's what will happen.
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: And that's what's so about college football these days.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 5: It's like it's already hard enough to be a college
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 5: football fan of a team that really there's no loyalty
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 5: anymore because you can't get attached to a player, you
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 5: can't get attached to a coach. But if every couple
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 5: years you're just having to start all over. And I
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 5: understand nowadays with all the ni AL money, it can
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 5: happen fast, But I don't know. It's just my love
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 5: for college football is has been declining in the last
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 5: couple of years, and if this happens again, it's gonna tank.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 4: I've heard that a lot from people, and I understand why.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 4: I mean, number one, you liked college football and we've
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 4: gone through such massive changes. Yeah that that already was
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 4: shaking you at your core. I mean, we're not even
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 4: in the conference we use, right you, college kids are
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 4: getting paid money. That's that's unfamiliar. Bowl games are going
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 4: the way of the dinosaur at this point. So there
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 4: are a lot of things that people loved about college football,
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 4: the purity of the sport, all of those things that
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 4: they talked themselves into. But it was the foundation for
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 4: lifetimes a fandom of the college football product. And and
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 4: you know, and I have spent a lifetime loving college football.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 4: And now we also have had these ripple effects of
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 4: things that we didn't see coming. Like, Okay, we've managed
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 4: the nil. Turns out it wasn't as bad as what
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 4: we thought, or at least that's the mode we're in,
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 4: right now who knows how it twists and turns. We
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 4: managed the bowl games, this college tournament pretty cool and
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 4: it is adding quite a bit to the daily conversation
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 4: during the college football season. But there have been other
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 4: things that were unforeseen, and you know, the transfer portals
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 4: turned in a little bit to free agency, which people
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 4: can moan about it. And yet it is any attention
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 4: is good attention. You always heard that in Mark in class.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: That's what they say.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 4: The product's flying high. Yeah, the interest is flying high.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 4: So even though I'm hearing more and more people say
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 4: that they're that is this is all testing their college
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 4: football fandom. Apparently it's gaining a lot more fans that
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 4: were just casual fans. Well because the drama, the players shuffle,
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 4: the coach shuffle, the going from bowl games to a
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 4: tournament shuffle, has brought in a lot of eyeballs, and
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 4: it not only has not affected the product. The product
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 4: seems to be better than ever. Doesn't mean that it's sustainable,
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 4: because it does seem I'm with all the people that
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 4: are soured and turned off a little bit right now.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 4: I understand it's chaos right now. And whenever you have chaos, yeah,
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 4: it might feel good for a while. Meal may feel
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 4: like it's working for a while, but if you don't
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 4: get that under control, it could crash and burn.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's I think that's the biggest problem is
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 5: that it's you're getting all these fans, like you said so,
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 5: but at the expense of I think the loyal fans,
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 5: the ones who have felt that allegiance with the school
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 5: for decades and have been asked for money, you know,
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 5: and have been paying for seat upgrades and getting you know,
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 5: you get asked, oh, make this just speaking for Washington,
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 5: you make a taiee donation. Now maybe you get a
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 5: better seat, and you've been doing this for years and
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 5: years and years and years, and then the product itself,
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 5: the loyalty to the program that you felt is gone.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 5: So you're just kind of I think it's turning more
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 5: people into the casual football fan, whereas like, yeah, I'll
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 5: tune in on a Saturday to watch the big games,
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 5: in the big matchups. But as far as Husky football,
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 5: I mean, I have season tickets right now. I went
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 5: to two games this year and part of that is
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 5: because of a schedule.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: So but what am I gonna do?
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 5: Am I going to keep paying for games where I'm
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 5: and supporting the program. That doesn't feel the same when
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 5: I can only go to two games because of the schedule,
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 5: like and not the football schedules, saying like life schedule, yes,
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 5: and so no, probably not because why would I keep
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 5: giving money to something that when.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 4: Your interest and love for it is is waning?
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah, And so I'm in this place now where I'm like, well,
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 5: do I want to give them that money again? Or
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 5: do I just want to maybe say, Okay, you know what,
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 5: maybe I'll go to an away game, or maybe I'll
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 5: pick one game and just spend some money on one
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 5: game ticket versus a whole season.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, I think that a lot of these things
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 4: are great for college football. I think that we are
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 4: heading in the right direction. And I think even the
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 4: Dieard fan, even the Cam Cleland who misses bowl games,
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 4: once we get the playoff set and maybe we can
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 4: figure out a new way to play bowl games than
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 4: what we have had in the past. I think we
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 4: need to move on from the idea of you know, oh,
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 4: it's great to see these seniors all playing one last
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 4: game together. What are you talking about? You know, they're
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 4: like two of them that have been here all four years.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 4: We don't need to hold onto that. Yeah, but so,
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 4: but I do think that there's a way to hold
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 4: on to the Bowl feel, even though it won't look
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 4: anything like it used to, and the college football tournament.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 4: As we start iiring out some of these wrinkles, I
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 4: think that college I think you'll follow. I think you'll
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 4: follow that road. I think maybe you even get used
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 4: to transfer portal and going from Oh, we lost everybody
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 4: at once, but we got a lot of new guys
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 4: coming in. That's kind of like free agency, and everybody
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 4: loves free agency and professional sports. So I think that
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 4: even though you might not think you like it now,
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 4: I think you could stay on board with it. Where
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 4: where your point to me is loud and clear is
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 4: the coaching changes and then that and how it affects
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 4: the transfer portal.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I agree.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 5: That is especially to if we go through it again
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 5: and again. This isn't Jetfish coming out and saying he's
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 5: gonna leave or anything like that. This is no fault
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 5: of Jetfish right now, other than his past history shows
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 5: that he's moved around a bunch.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's going to be involved in these in these rooms.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 4: But what what's what I don't think that fans like
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 4: you that are already starting to feel like disassociated with it,
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 4: what you're going to be able to deal with is
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 4: the coach, because the coach puts all of that other
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 4: stuff in motion. So to me, it's time to make
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 4: these hold these coaches feets to the fire and this
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 4: world that we live in where we're finding it perfectly
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 4: acceptable that you're at a job Kaylin de boor that
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 4: you absolutely love, that everybody there loves you, and because
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 4: you don't get along with the new athletic.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: Director who liked you is already gone.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 4: If you just waited, you had more power than he did,
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 4: if you would have just waited. This always seeking some
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 4: place where I'm sure it's going to be even better. No,
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 4: when you find great, you better latch onto it. Yeah,
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 4: you know that that is a bad way to live life,
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 4: and for Lane Kiffin to keep doing it and it
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 4: always ends up blowing up in his in his face.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 4: Uh and and even Jetfish same message to you, Bud,
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 4: Like you know, I hope you are serious about staying here.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 4: And and yet if he does leave, you're right, he's
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 4: going to raid all of the program. Yeah, and he's
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 4: going to take Demon Williams to Michigan with him, and
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 4: he's going to take half of the roster. And then
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 4: guess what the follow up move has to be. If
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 4: you're Washington, Well, we got to hire another head coach
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 4: because we just lost our coach and half our roster. Yeah,
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 4: so now we got to go hire another head coach
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 4: and then raid their us. Sorry, sorry about it. We
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 4: now raided your roster. Yeah, that has to be stopped.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: It feels dirty.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 5: And we talk about too that, Like, you know, we
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 5: spent the last couple days talking about players moving and.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: Things like that too.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 5: And I just think it's interesting that the idea is in,
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 5: you know, in a way to stop the players from
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 5: moving is to sign have him sign a contract. Well,
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 5: contracts clearly don't mean Diddley because look at all the
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 5: coaches who have signed contracts.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: And then more of money comes in and then.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 5: They're like, oh, never mind, we'll just buy you out
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 5: and you can we can fire you, or we'll just
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  Speaker 5: pay more and you can leave and we'll deal with
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 5: your buyout. So contracts in college football especially mean Jack squad.
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  Speaker 4: And I think that that is where I would start
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  Speaker 4: because I think, like I said, all those other changes
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  Speaker 4: will get accustomed to. Yeah, and I think that will
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  Speaker 4: that most of us, not all of us. Most of
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 4: us are gonna like it better once we iron out
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 4: all the wrinkles. But there's no way to continue to
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  Speaker 4: like this. There's no way we can do this raid
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  Speaker 4: and replace kind of existence that we're living in college football.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 4: It's it's nonsense, and it all starts with greedy coaches.
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  Speaker 4: And so I think rules are going to have to
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 4: be put in place. I think college coaches need to
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 4: be held to the standard that players used to be
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 4: held to, the standardays to be held to. And if
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  Speaker 4: it's so important for you to leave, players can now
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 4: leave if they want during the transfer portal year to year.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 4: Let's not allow coaches to do that. If it's so
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  Speaker 4: important to you to get to an even better program
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  Speaker 4: where you're sure the grass is even greener than the
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 4: green grass that you say you love, and I've said
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 4: for years you love beneath your feet, But you've got
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 4: to get to that next one because that's fourteen dollars more.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 4: And and it's also, oh gosh, when I get there,
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 4: I mean, when it rains, it rains, skittles, and there
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 4: are rains. Yeah, there are rainbows that shoot out of
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 4: all of my orifices every single morning. I mean before
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  Speaker 4: it's heaven. You know, if that's the mentality constantly and
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 4: it never stops, make them sit out of here. If
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  Speaker 4: that heaven is what you're sit out of here without pay?
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 4: Do you want to go now? And I'll let you
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  Speaker 4: leave if you've got one year left on your contract,
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 4: and if they can't negotiate an extension, or you don't
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 4: want to negotiate an extension, we'll let you leave because
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 4: nobody wants to be in that even program can't exist
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 4: in that one year of is he going to be
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 4: here or is he going to not be here? You know,
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  Speaker 4: you know, you don't even want to deal with that
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 4: as an administration. But I think that if we could
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 4: put in place like colleges can't hire somebody, if they
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 4: do hire somebody that's under contract with another, then they
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 4: have to go with an interim for a year, and
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 4: then they have to sit out a year with no pay.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then just curb it.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not saying get rid of it, just curb it,
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 4: because you're right, I think, what more than anything else
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 4: that has changed, if you continue to put college fan
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 4: bases through like always worried that their coach is leaving,
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 4: and then once he leaves, he's taking how much of
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 4: the roster? And then who do we have to steal away?
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 4: And then we got to learn a completely new roster,
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 4: and then we got to give that coach a year
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 4: to get adjusted, and so we're not going to hold him.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 4: Just that to me is unsustainable. That's what's going to
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 4: chase away more college fans than anything. Even though right
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 4: now none of you are getting chased away. You can
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 4: say you're getting chased away, but you're not getting chased away.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 4: And the ratings suggest that. But if you go through
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 4: that experience enough, Ashley, I do see. I can feel
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 4: it in you.
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  Speaker 5: I'm not going to put up with this much longer,
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 5: right and I mean for me to be even considering
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 5: that we're not renewing our Husky tickets, yeah next year,
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 5: that is a big deal. We have had them since
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 5: Mark and I started dating, so this is and I
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 5: grew up with them with my dad, Like, this is
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 5: a big deal. And I just think, you know, as
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 5: far as nil, I have no problem with I want
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 5: players to get money for their name, image and likeness.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 5: But what has happened to nil has? It's out of control. Well,
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 5: but where we are, we haven't trying to rain that in.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 5: We do have rules.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if it's going to work, but they
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 4: at least have implemented rules, and then maybe we can
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 4: start bringing some order in chaos. But until you start
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 4: telling these coaches you just can't leave every year because
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 4: you can make six dollars more and get your ass
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 4: kissed for a year on campus until they turn on
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 4: you and then you want to leave again. Yeah, that
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 4: has to get under control, and shame on all of them.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 4: Shame on all of them. You know this grass is
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 4: greener approach? How did you not enjoy your How are
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 4: you not enjoying your life?
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: I know you got a pretty good one.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 4: How do you only enjoy it unless your ass is
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 4: getting kissed as the new guy on campus for one year?
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 4: That's all you can go. You're asking your players to
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 4: commit to you for four years and you can't go
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 4: more than a year without. Ooh, maybe I don't want
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 4: to be here anymore. You know, I saw the janitor
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 4: in the hallways and he wasn't very kind to me today.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: He didn't he wasn't super pumped to see me.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, after spending this in the last three years, ripping
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 4: on kids and their lack of loyalty and the coaches,
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 4: they're setting the standard more so than anybody.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. I just the whole thing
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  Speaker 1: is I don't like it.
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  Speaker 12: You sure you're prepared to go one on one with
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 12: me today without your partner?
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm more than prepared, even though you will, for
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 4: the first time be covering a quarterback older than you
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 4: on Sunday.
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  Speaker 12: I wish I wish I was younger than Philip Rivers.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 12: We're all making fun of him for looking like he's,
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 12: you know, a little heavier, but yeah, he's probably a
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 12: super elite athlete compared to the rest of us.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 4: How I mean, where does this rank in the craziest,
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 4: most unexpected stories of your career?
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  Speaker 12: It's definitely it's it's up there. I mean, I think
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 12: to be out for five years, you know, it's funny.
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  Speaker 12: I think of this did happen once before. You know,
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 12: the the nineteen ninety eight Falcons team, which our good
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 12: buddy Robbie Tobeck was part of, did have Steve de
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 12: Burg come back after five years out.
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  Speaker 11: But they weren't really counting on him.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 12: They went to the Super Bowl, they weren't really counting
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 12: on him to get him there. So I think it's
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 12: totally wild, but I get it. They're desperate. I think
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 12: that their options are limited.
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  Speaker 11: I'm sure they're trying to.
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  Speaker 12: Do outter things. My question is, where's Ryan Tannehill and
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 12: all of this? Wouldn't he want to come out of retirement?
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 4: Cam Newton wanted to Cam?
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  Speaker 12: I just I tweeted that I think recently he's throwing
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 12: his very stylish hat into the ring stuff that it's
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 12: a different hat. He got a better hat to throw
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 12: in the ring anybody else.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, does he have. I kind of get it.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 4: If the Colts are like, hey, we got four or
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 4: five games, we're in playoff contention right now. If we
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 4: can just maybe steal a game in the next couple
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 4: of weeks with Rippin, and let's sign Rivers now and
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 4: maybe by the last couple of weeks of the year
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 4: that we can get him up to speed and he
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 4: will be better than what Brett Rippen will be. But
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 4: to sign him on Tuesday and have him play against
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 4: Mike McDonald's defense on Sunday, I mean, Mike, is there
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  Speaker 4: any chance he's going to have any level of success
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 4: on Sunday?
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  Speaker 11: I don't think so.
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  Speaker 12: I think the best thing they could do would be
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 12: to string it along a little while. I think it's
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 12: a move that well, yes, they could. You definitely use
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  Speaker 12: a quarterback.
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  Speaker 11: I think it. You know, you're kind of showing your
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 11: locker room. You get a little energy.
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  Speaker 12: Hey, Philip Rivers out here, you got some hope. I
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  Speaker 12: wouldn't want to have that hope go away in one
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 12: week when he gets, you know, helped off the field
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 12: limping because he pulled a hamstring or something.
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  Speaker 11: I think I would do. I would keep him in
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 11: the queue here for a week or two. It's unfair
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 11: to send.
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  Speaker 12: Him out there against Seattle, a top two or three
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 12: defense in the league on the road. I mean, that's
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 12: just a recipe for failure to really have a bad
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 12: game where he could get hurt. So I think I
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 12: would totally have him come along and be saving this
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 12: thing up. You're not going to get eliminated this week, right,
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 12: and maybe then you could get something out of him
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 12: after a week or two of practice.
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  Speaker 4: Crazy, just a crazy story and you had fun. I'm
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 4: here for it, front Row, get to the popcorn. Let's
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  Speaker 4: just like it.
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  Speaker 12: Like you know I can remember. You know, this is
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 12: a long time ago. But like one time in the eighties,
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 12: Jim Brown was on the cover of Sports Illustrated, like
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 12: at age forty eight, and it last played in like
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 12: the sixties, like he was gonna come back with the
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  Speaker 12: Raiders because he was talking smack about all these running backs,
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 12: these these soft guys of today who we now look
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 12: back on as the hardcore guys, these soft guys of
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 12: today stepping out of bounds. Frank O Harris, let me
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  Speaker 12: put let me lace him up again. And he got
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  Speaker 12: on the cover of Sports Illustrator, But he never came
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 12: back because he would have looked terrible.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, right.
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  Speaker 12: Will Chamberlain allegedly they were trying to bring him out
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 12: of retirement. He was allegedly like dominating against Magic Johnson,
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 12: and pickup games.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know about all of that, but you know,
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 4: seven foot two, you probably could fill a role like
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 4: playing quarterback in the National Football League five years after
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 4: you retire. That just seems like too large of a
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 4: hurdle to clear.
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  Speaker 12: Yeah, put that only got one for a visual Take
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 12: his mug shot and put it next to Brady's age
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  Speaker 12: forty four buck shot. I mean, they're different guys. One guy,
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 12: you know, he's that annoying guy who's like at the
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 12: gym at age fifty and somehow looks like he's twenty.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 12: And the other guy looks like, you know, you should look.
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  Speaker 4: Like you should look. Yeah, and he's very likable. I
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  Speaker 4: mean his press conference was fantastic talking about his weight
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 4: and everything else. But yeah, well, yes, mac them around.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 4: We don't have any choice. I can't wait. It's going
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 4: to be like a Rottweiler on a pork chop. Coming
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 4: up on Sunday, Mike Sando is with us our NFL
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 4: insider from the Athletics. A lot of other things going
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 4: on as well. Did you get the sense that Joe
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 4: Burrows comments this week a bit cryptic, like almost he's
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 4: feeling like he might not play football? Anymore.
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  Speaker 12: Yeah, I think he gets that way. I did see that.
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  Speaker 12: A part of me was like, don't you just sort
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 12: of have to, you know, be the energy source for
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 12: your team too here.
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  Speaker 11: You know, and maybe he is that on game day.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, your team's bad because you haven't been there for them.
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  Speaker 12: Yeah, and their defense too. I mean, I think, you
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 12: know how much of this is maybe I shouldst this off.
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  Speaker 12: But in past seasons, you know, I've kind of run
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 12: the side by side snapshot of him and Carson Palmer.
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 12: You know, they kind of both have lived this Cincinnati
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 12: experience one way to the other. And now Joe got
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 12: paid a ton of money and I think that was
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 12: part of the issue with Carson Palmer. But still it
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 12: it gets discouraging after a while. I think he's just
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 12: in a different place with the injuries what there are
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 12: on defense, and it did everything they could to win
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 12: the game last week and still couldn't win it. He
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 12: had a great game and it didn't bounce their way.
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  Speaker 12: So I agree, I think he's sort of got to,
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  Speaker 12: you know, pull that together by the end of the
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 12: week and be the source of energy, not the source
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 12: of gloom.
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  Speaker 4: Chief's done.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, I think they're done. This year for I think
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 11: they're not going to make the playoffs.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 4: Yes, what about like like done, like they need to rebuild? Done,
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 4: or well they'll make a couple of adjustments and be
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 4: right back next year.
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  Speaker 12: I think it'd be the second one. I think they'll
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 12: definitely make some adjustments. I have felt like it could
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 12: actually help them to miss the playoffs if they're not
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 12: going to be a team that goes all the way
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 12: or goes deep, just because it does force you to,
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 12: you know, make maybe some changes you wouldn't make otherwise.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 12: When you feel like you're close, when it's proven you're
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 12: not close, like by not making the playoffs, I think.
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  Speaker 11: Then you need to.
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  Speaker 12: There's some more soul searching goes on, and I think
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 12: that could be good for them.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 4: Rams play the Lions this week. Fantastic matchup and man,
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 4: that Stafford golf trade. Have you ever seen a trade
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 4: benefit more teams more than what that one did.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 11: It's it's tough to have a win win like that.
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  Speaker 12: I think they were both perfect for each other at
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 12: a really critical important position. I mean, how many quarterbacks
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 12: for quarterback trades have there even been, let alone guys
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 12: who end up becoming you know, getting new contracts with
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 12: their teams being winning playoff games. It's it really was
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 12: a great trade. It's funny you mentioned Burrow, you know,
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 12: being down and out. I think Stafford was at that
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 12: point in the trait where he's just kind of like,
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 12: all right, I've been here enough, you know, let me
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 12: go somewhere else.
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  Speaker 4: And I wonder if something similar could happen. I mean,
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 4: you use that as the proto type the Golf Stafford trade.
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 4: If Cincinnati would say, hey, if we can get a
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 4: franchise quarterback in return, because usually these things are we
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 4: trade our franchise quarterback for seventeen draft picks and rebuild.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 4: But if Cincinnati could get a trade in the off
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 4: season where we're going to trade you for another you know,
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 4: like Jared Goff, like a good, We're gonna trade it
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 4: great for a good and then you throw us a
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 4: bunch of draft picks in addition, maybe that's something Cincinnati entertains.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 4: If in fact, Joe Burrow is still wants to play.
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  Speaker 12: Yeah, if some people have touched you in the league
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 12: had kind of predicted it could go down that path
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 12: at some point, I think the perception of Golf was that, hey,
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 12: he was kind of this, you know, appreciated asset so
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 12: to speak. Right, if we're going to use an economic
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 12: type of a term, So who would that be? Who's
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 12: like still good? But you know, is perceived to have
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 12: run his course in a certain place. And off the
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 12: top of my head, I I don't.
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  Speaker 4: Know, I rammed Arnold in a first for Joe Burrow,
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  Speaker 4: would you do it?
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  Speaker 11: Uh?
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 12: Yes, yeah, what I was thinking about this? You just
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 12: cut me off af guard. But what about now? What
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 12: about like Caleb Williams? Oh, you know what if Ben
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 12: Johnson wanted to play with with Burrow and they said, hey,
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 12: we'll give you let.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 4: We like our guy.
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 12: But yeah, but I mean that's no offensive journald. But
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 12: I mean Burrow has been a top tier guy.
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  Speaker 5: You know.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 11: I do think the injuries are concerned with him mm.
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 4: Hmmm yeah, but yeah, Caleb Williams is a better example,
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 4: like a young quarterback that's controllable that Cincinnati could have.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 4: And then you probably throw in a little bit more.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 4: I like that thought, all right. Thursday Night Football Falcons
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 4: Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Are the Buccaneers going to hold onto
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 4: this division? Or not?
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 11: God?
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
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  Speaker 12: I don't know if they are there's something wrong. They've
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 12: they've really uh you know, they they've fallen off. I
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 12: think some of it is deffinitely their injury situation. But
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 12: what's Atlanta. You know, Atlanta is a team. Yeah, they're
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 12: They're a team that really needs to show something late
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 12: in the year too, to avoid a bunch of huge changes.
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 12: That might be the best thing for him anyway. So
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 12: I think it's a desperation game. I'm kind of oddly
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  Speaker 12: intrigued by it in that sense. And the and they've played,
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  Speaker 12: I think they've played. Last year they played, didn't they
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  Speaker 12: play a prime time game that was wild and overtime
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  Speaker 12: or something? Yes, ye, may we get that.
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  Speaker 4: I just Cousins was in that game and actually was
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  Speaker 4: his only good game last year.
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  Speaker 12: Yeah, so may maybe he can have another good game.
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  Speaker 12: But I think it's more of a curiosity than a
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  Speaker 12: good matchup.
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  Speaker 4: All right, all right, man, Well, thank you very much.
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  Speaker 4: Enjoyed Philip Rivers on Sunday. And if he's successful, I'm
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  Speaker 4: going to try a comeback.
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  Speaker 11: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't know you have to, Oh, thank you. I
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  Speaker 4: haven't played quarterback junior or in high school, but I
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  Speaker 4: will make a comeback. That is what they call, is
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  Speaker 4: there like some Super eight video of that mobile color?
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  Speaker 11: Let's being color.
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  Speaker 4: Let's put it this way. There's a lot of hands
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 4: handing off the ball, not a lot of throwing in
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  Speaker 4: southern Illinois in the late eighties. I'll tell you that.
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  Speaker 12: I'm going to try to find that video. I'm gonna
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  Speaker 12: have to find that video, but I do think it's
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 12: probably film. It's probably just spice together.
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  Speaker 4: Drawings, drawings of me old book.
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  Speaker 1: You just have to flip it fast.
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  Speaker 11: Flip the fast book.
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