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- 0:00Most investors don't sabotage their growth because they lack tactics.
- 0:03They sabotage it because some part of them doesn't feel safe at the next level.
- 0:09There's a psychological phenomenon called the upper limits problem,
- 0:13and it explains why so many investors stall right before a breakthrough.
- 0:18The indecision that shows up out of nowhere,
- 0:22The second guessing, the sudden abandoning of the fundamentals that
- 0:26got them there in the first place.
- 0:27In this episode, high performance hypnotherapist Paul Salter breaks down
- 0:32why your subconscious will quietly pull you back down to a level that feels
- 0:38familiar, even when you're logically doing everything right.
- 0:42You'll learn what's actually driving that self-sabotage,
- 0:46a simple daily practice that can raise your floor and make the next level feel safe,
- 0:52And why the relationships around you often shift the moment you start
- 0:56to outgrow them. If you want help building systems that support this kind
- 1:01of growth in your investing business,
- 1:03you'll find more information at RealDealCrew.com.
- 1:08Let's get started.
- 1:12Paul Salter joins me here today.
- 1:14You can learn what he can help you with through his podcast.
- 1:18Paul, l let's give everybody a heads up on your podcast right away so that they
- 1:22can find you, and then I will have that as a clickable link in the show notes
- 1:26as well.
- 1:27The unstuck high performer podcast available on Apple,
- 1:30Spotify, and all other major platforms.
- 1:33So let's let's give people a quick short version of your story and how
- 1:37did you go from performance coaching and hypnotherapy into working with high
- 1:43performers?
- 1:45Happily. So again, my name is Paul Salter.
- 1:47I am a high performance hypnotherapist and mindset coach.
- 1:51And I primarily work with CEOs,
- 1:54executives, entrepreneurs, and ambitious professionals who are stuck,
- 1:58continuing to find themselves in these patterns of self-sabotage.
- 2:03And the work I do primarily uses hypnosis to help these high-performing individuals.
- 2:09really uncover and then unlearn the destructive patterns of believing,
- 2:14thinking, and behaving that are holding them back from their potential.
- 2:18And it sounds strange to say out loud to me,
- 2:21this is year 17 that I have been coaching.
- 2:24My coaching background began as a sports dietitian,
- 2:27immediately working at the collegiate professional and olympic level,
- 2:31helping professional and Olympic athletes maximize their potential.
- 2:36And after a few years there, I shifted more into the sustainable weight loss niche,
- 2:40helping men and women who were stuck in the yo-yo dieting cycle,
- 2:44stuck losing and regaining the same 20 to 40 pounds over and over again,
- 2:48really lose that weight and keep it off by taking an inside out approach,
- 2:52meaning losing and unlearning the beliefs and the emotional baggage that
- 2:56was holding them back. And after a decade or so doing that,
- 3:00I took a little pivot.
- 3:03I played poker professionally for a couple of years.
- 3:05And this was for the first time in my life where I really came up against
- 3:10my own limiting beliefs, a poor,
- 3:12negative, scarcity laden relationship with money,
- 3:15a lack of confidence, difficulty navigating challenge.
- 3:18So I hired a mindset and performance coach who happened to be a hypnotherapist.
- 3:23And not only did she have a phenomenal impact on my poker playing,
- 3:27the amount of money I played for,
- 3:28the amount of money I earned.
- 3:30The impact on me as an individual was so profound.
- 3:33It felt like an obvious evolution to walk away from poker,
- 3:37phase out the nutrition coaching I was still doing,
- 3:40double down on the mindset coaching work I was already doing,
- 3:44grab my credential as a hypnotherapist,
- 3:46surround myself with people who were far brighter,
- 3:49far more experienced to accelerate my learning curve.
- 3:52And I haven't looked back since.
- 3:54Yeah, I appreciate you giving us that insight.
- 3:56And and it's it's always interesting to hear that frankly you were experiencing some
- 4:02of the same challenges that people experience.
- 4:05Like it it is it's it is kind of reassur reassuring in that regard.
- 4:09Could you it seems like and maybe it's more my like my generation too,
- 4:15like the the whole working on yourself,
- 4:18working on your mindset
- 4:20What are some of those misconceptions that you repeatedly run into,
- 4:24especially in the with real estate investors?
- 4:27Also stereotypically, most men,
- 4:30and I say this because I've been there,
- 4:32see asking for help or looking inward or needing some form of support,
- 4:37accountability, and coaching as a sign of weakness.
- 4:39Vulnerability is seen as a weakness.
- 4:41I can figure it out myself. I can be stubborn and find a way.
- 4:44And if I can't find a way, I will run myself into the ground until I do
- 4:48or until I break. And that is
- 4:50Just old patterning that was passed on from you know their father,
- 4:54their grandfathers, etc. And really the mistake I see is
- 4:58so many high-performing individuals,
- 5:00both men and women, are suffering in silence.
- 5:04They are plagued by anxiety,
- 5:07overwhelm, worry, uncertainty,
- 5:10fear, imposter syndrome, constantly guessing:
- 5:12am I capable? Am I worthy?
- 5:15But they're so disconnected from themselves because they've learned how
- 5:19to numb and avoid all of those uncomfortable feelings by working more,
- 5:25by pouring themselves more into their work.
- 5:27And what inevitably happens far too often is that individual wears their tenacity,
- 5:33their ambition, like a badge of honor.
- 5:34They brag about working 70, 80 hour weeks.
- 5:37They brag about all of the deals they're closing and all of the money
- 5:41in their bank account.
- 5:43But they're incredibly disconnected from their wife or their husband,
- 5:45incredibly distant from their children,
- 5:47incredibly disconnected from themselves.
- 5:50And inevitably, some type of challenging event occurs or they run themselves into
- 5:56an emotional implosion or rock bottom.
- 5:59And not to say it's too late, but most of that could be avoided had they found
- 6:04the courage and the supportive environment to ask for help.
- 6:07Yeah, I can understand that. You know,
- 6:09in fact I I even go as far as the saying that when we do this we
- 6:13go down this entrepreneurship road,
- 6:15it's it's actually kinda lonely.
- 6:17Like it is one of those things that we just kind of battle these these monsters,
- 6:22if you will, on our own and we just kind of plow ahead.
- 6:26It's
- 6:28It it really helps if especially if you have somebody to talk to or somebody like
- 6:33i like even a close friend in some ways.
- 6:36I think a lot of that kinda gets pushed to the wayside where it's probably needed
- 6:41the most.
- 6:42I agree. And what's interesting is like there's no true internal psychological
- 6:48blueprint for the entrepreneurial journey.
- 6:50There's plenty of blueprints for how to scale your business,
- 6:53how to become an excellent real estate agent,
- 6:55broker, or investor. But we get into the mind of how to achieve next level success
- 7:01and how to sustain it. Every single one of us has our own unique.
- 7:06Programming, our own unique relationship with money,
- 7:09beliefs about success. Am I worthy,
- 7:11deserving? Am I capable? And all of those beliefs are completely unique
- 7:15to our own experiences. So we can sit there even and surround ourselves with some
- 7:20great like-minded individuals who are who are performers who are ambitious.
- 7:24But if we don't talk about how we're feeling,
- 7:27we're going to continue to internalize that isolation and
- 7:30At the end of the day, what we continue to repress is an im is inevitably gonna show
- 7:34up in one way or the na another.
- 7:36Yeah, you've said most experienced people aren't missing tactic tactics,
- 7:41but they're they're stuck in a pattern.
- 7:44This is kind of one of this is the other side of the double edged sword that
- 7:49I speak about because I find that I need to maintain a certain level
- 7:53of momentum in order to make sure that I'm I'm producing or or
- 7:57doing those money generating activities on a on a regular and consistent basis.
- 8:02But what you say you're basically bringing up a very strong thing
- 8:07is that that momentum can actually be in in the wrong direction or s
- 8:12in some cases holding you back because it's just a habit or a pattern.
- 8:16Can you talk a little bit
- 8:17Yeah.
- 8:18about that?
- 8:19Absolutely. I mean, when we talk about number of deals closed,
- 8:23number of relationships built,
- 8:24number of dollars in our bank account,
- 8:26numbers are so easy for us to work with,
- 8:29to see, to tangibly experience more,
- 8:32you know, money in the bank account supposedly is gonna mean a better life
- 8:36or more happiness, more love, more fulfillment.
- 8:39But what happens is, and so many people listening,
- 8:42I imagine can relate is their identity becomes enmeshed in their results.
- 8:47Their self-worth and self-esteem is a direct byproduct of their results,
- 8:53deals closed, investments successfully executed,
- 8:56or dollars in the bank account.
- 8:58And ultimately what's happening is there is a program that has come
- 9:02to the surface that is more or less beginning to show up as I am only worthy if.
- 9:08There's a lack of feeling of I'm worthy,
- 9:10I'm deserving. And that could be of attention,
- 9:12of love, of connection, of belonging.
- 9:14And what's really unique is, you know,
- 9:16when when we dig into the past of individuals,
- 9:18you know, and I could cite countless clients of mine who are agents and investors,
- 9:22where they were, for example, one of many siblings.
- 9:26And
- 9:27You know, I'm the oldest of four,
- 9:28and I know very well that once my little brother was born,
- 9:31I went from a hundred percent of mom and dad's attention to fifty percent,
- 9:34and it just kept lessening and lessening as more siblings came.
- 9:37So what happens in childhood, especially when we have a sibling or a few,
- 9:41is we have to find creative ways to stand out,
- 9:44to still get mom's attention, dad's attention and affection,
- 9:47because every single one of us has core needs to feel like we belong,
- 9:51we're accepted, we're connected,
- 9:52we're worthy of love.
- 9:54And so for a while, maybe a pattern of perfectionism,
- 9:57of standing out, doing well, going above and beyond is how you get those core needs
- 10:02met. And we see that then develop into adulthood as a tenacity and ambition.
- 10:07But what begins to bubble under the surface is if you have a bad month,
- 10:11you have a poor quarter, you begin to feel negatively about yourself.
- 10:17And perhaps you might try to take a shortcut here.
- 10:20You might overlook.
- 10:22Your health, your well-being, the key relationships in your life,
- 10:25because you think if I just close one more deal or I sign one more client,
- 10:30then I'll feel okay. And as you continue on this pattern,
- 10:34you mistake motion for the sake of motion of moving you in the direction you desire.
- 10:40You're still moving, you're going,
- 10:41you're doing, but you're getting so far off track from that original path
- 10:46you plan to take, you inevitably run yourself into the ground.
- 10:50That makes a lot of sense and it actually echoes some things that I've noticed
- 10:53as well. We have a tendency, you know,
- 10:56I I run run into a lot of small business owners and you know we we do do that.
- 11:03We brag about how busy we are,
- 11:05but then we don't take assessment of exactly what we're busy with.
- 11:08And being a little bit more mindful of of some of that.
- 11:12And you were about to say something?
- 11:15No, just completely agreeing with that.
- 11:17And I think I I'll add and let you continue,
- 11:19of course, is that that's because slowing down is uncomfortable,
- 11:22scary, foreign, perceived as a threat.
- 11:25If I slow down, I'll miss out,
- 11:27I'll fall behind. And that just perpetuates the issue.
- 11:31Yeah. No, it it makes it makes a lot of sense.
- 11:35The one of one of the things that I was hoping that you could s spend
- 11:38a little time with too is that based on what you're saying here,
- 11:42if we could tie that directly with how
- 11:46how not taking care of this to in this way,
- 11:49how it could even negatively impact certain aspects of real estate and investing,
- 11:54whether it's negotiation or teamwork or team development
- 11:58or or building a community within your in your world.
- 12:04Like how does the let's give some direct ties to to the impact there.
- 12:09Yeah, of course. A simple relatable example,
- 12:11there's this psychological phenomenon known as the upper limit problem.
- 12:15And this is basically an unconscious limit that we place on ourselves around,
- 12:19you know, how much money we can make.
- 12:21So if somebody listening right now has a seven figure portfolio and
- 12:25is trying to scale to an eight figure portfolio,
- 12:27a nine figure portfolio, it's likely that as they begin to approach that next self
- 12:33perceived threshold.
- 12:36They might begin to find themselves victim of patterns of sabotaging behavior.
- 12:41And what I often find is when someone is on the verge of breaking through
- 12:44to that next level, indecision begins to appear.
- 12:48Apprehension, uncertainty, second guessing,
- 12:51a sudden abandoning of the fundamentals that drove that level of success
- 12:56in the first place.
- 12:57So what happens here is these micro forms of self-sabotage begin
- 13:02to appear because that next level of success,
- 13:05you know, crossing to the eight-figure,
- 13:07the nine-figure level of their portfolio is seen as a threat.
- 13:10Because underneath all of that,
- 13:12you know, despite logically saying,
- 13:13of course I want to grow my portfolio,
- 13:15duh, that's what I'm doing all this for.
- 13:17But underneath all of that, there's a core belief I'm not worthy,
- 13:21I'm not deserving, or I'm not capable.
- 13:23Who am I to have so many
- 13:26Tens or hundreds of million dollars in assets.
- 13:28There's a deep core belief and c and complementary fear that's present that
- 13:33the closer they get to that level,
- 13:35the more they begin to undo their success,
- 13:38which brings them back down to a level of familiarity.
- 13:41And this coincides with what exactly the subconscious mind is designed to do,
- 13:46to keep you safe.
- 13:48So by bringing you back down to that level of familiarity,
- 13:51your subconscious knows, hey, this place is familiar,
- 13:54it's predictable, it's comfortable,
- 13:56you're safe here. But going to that next level,
- 13:58that's foreign. That's a threat.
- 14:00Absolutely not. So we see it show up in the indecision around deals,
- 14:04the uncertainty, the second guessing.
- 14:06But then we bring it into leadership too.
- 14:08It can be failure to delegate.
- 14:09It can be ineffective communication,
- 14:12and it can be ineffective building of a culture or setting a team member
- 14:16or teammate up for success.
- 14:18And sometimes when viewed under a microscope,
- 14:21these one off instances may appear like they are just that,
- 14:24one off instances. But when we take a big step back,
- 14:27we begin to see these one off instances occurring more and more frequently,
- 14:31which add up to pack a very powerful punch of self-sabotage.
- 14:35Yeah, I'd like to ex take a moment and and explore this a l just a little
- 14:39bit more because I think we all are victims of it and maybe it's maybe it's
- 14:44the upbring bringing associated with our jobs and we kind of expect and
- 14:48we kind of tolerate the the three percent increments.
- 14:51But you rarely see people slide back once they start to make a certain amount.
- 14:56They kind of they becomes that becomes the new ceiling or the new standard.
- 15:01Like
- 15:02Can you talk a little bit about the strategies or something that we
- 15:06can maybe take away here today where we can maybe even in a in a small sense break
- 15:12through that that mental ceiling to to realize that maybe we can we can do
- 15:17we can we don't have to settle for the three percent increase.
- 15:21Absolutely. So the key point here is you need to raise your floor.
- 15:24And really what's occurring in this is you're creating a sense
- 15:28of psychological safety. You're you're helping like literally your nervous system
- 15:33feel safe going from a seven-figure portfolio to an eight-figure portfolio.
- 15:37So one of the most effective action steps somebody listening can take today
- 15:43is to begin a practice of daily silence,
- 15:47stillness, and solitude.
- 15:5010 minutes a day sitting in silence,
- 15:52no phone, no social media, no email,
- 15:54not even a dog, a significant other or children.
- 15:57And the reason this is so powerful,
- 15:59and there's candidly there's multiple reasons,
- 16:01is but like today, there are so many people and so many factors competing
- 16:05for our attention. It's very challenging to find this stillness,
- 16:10this silence, this quietude to go inward and connect with ourselves.
- 16:14And
- 16:14What happens as we continue to pair this ever-present distraction alongside
- 16:19our tenacity to go, go, go, again,
- 16:22we begin to fall victim of mistaking any type of motion as productive motion,
- 16:26but we continue to get further and further off track.
- 16:29So what happens here is this daily practice of silence and solitude,
- 16:33it allows us to connect with ourselves,
- 16:35to recalibrate and realign, to double check as we continue to take inventory.
- 16:40Am I showing up as the man or woman I want to be?
- 16:43Am I showing up as the man or woman that is going to allow me
- 16:46to accomplish my goals? And through this quiet,
- 16:49we're able to connect more importantly with our deepest,
- 16:54highest self, our intuition, the universe,
- 16:56God, whatever your flavor or your verbiage is.
- 16:59And there's a really great quote I heard on this that goes like this
- 17:02The voice of your subconscious mind is silence.
- 17:07Your subconscious mind is home to your memories,
- 17:09your emotions, your beliefs, your habits,
- 17:11your patterns. So by being able to slow down,
- 17:14you can cultivate a much clearer look about where perhaps you're feeling some
- 17:20uncertainty, where perhaps you're noticing some inklings of self-sabotage.
- 17:25And you can better, more effectively and proactively course correct so that when
- 17:29you do then come up at that threshold,
- 17:32you have that breakthrough. You're still connected and aligned,
- 17:36and you're much
- 17:36more likely to cultivate that sense of safety at that next level.
- 17:41No, I appreciate you saying all of that.
- 17:43before we go any further, I wanna make sure that we call out your podcast again.
- 17:48Can you can you give everybody that?
- 17:50because you can find that on all platforms.
- 17:52Yes, the unstuck high performer podcast.
- 17:55And if you found some value in what we're chatting about so far today,
- 17:58do us a favor, share this with one of your investor friends.
- 18:01And if you're watching us on YouTube,
- 18:02give us a like and subscribe. So here's one of those things,
- 18:06Paul, that I think we we should we should decide on.
- 18:09You know, we're not the only ones that are going to experience
- 18:13this this mental change, right?
- 18:15This mindset change. We have friends,
- 18:17family, they're always looking out f what's bet what they think is best for us.
- 18:21But typically you are gonna have people in your life that when you start to grow,
- 18:27they start to get uncomfortable and now you have to deal with that.
- 18:31Like what what do you suggest people do there?
- 18:34Well, candidly, it's part of life because we are all biologically wired to belong,
- 18:40to seek acceptance and connection.
- 18:42It's difficult to remember that,
- 18:45you know, first and foremost, as human beings,
- 18:47we're a community-centric tribal species.
- 18:49Thousands of years ago, if we were rejected or abandoned by our tribe,
- 18:53we literally died. So we can now bring this back into the present day.
- 18:57Those same types of threats, that saber-toothed tiger or starvation,
- 19:00aren't the same threats we face.
- 19:02Yet we still st experience that visceral fear of abandonment.
- 19:06So we could take now, you know,
- 19:07five agents at a brokerage and one starts going the right direction,
- 19:11closing more deals, bringing in more money.
- 19:13Maybe he or she begins to exer experience some passive aggressive remarks,
- 19:17must be nice. Maybe they don't get the invitation to the social hour,
- 19:21the happy hour, the lunch invitation.
- 19:23And there's all these little passive petty forms of envy.
- 19:26Jealousy and resentment that they may begin to experience between that dynamic
- 19:31of peers they once belonged. So,
- 19:33what happens more often than not when someone is unaware of these types
- 19:37of patterns and propensities is an individual who starts having success will
- 19:41experience that undercurrent of envy,
- 19:44resentment, jealousy, and start to dim their light,
- 19:47start to play small to come back to that zone of comfort.
- 19:50So the message here is if you are noticing that you are starting
- 19:54to outgrow your tribe.
- 19:56Candidly, one of your skills you need to develop as you go and grow
- 20:00is the ability to edit or eliminate relationships.
- 20:05And I'll be the first to acknowledge that can sound harsh,
- 20:08it's difficult, it's uncomfortable,
- 20:10but I'll also tell you it's rewarding because it allows you to continue
- 20:13to stay in alignment with who you are,
- 20:16who you want to be, where you're going.
- 20:18And I can tell you too, from firsthand experience,
- 20:20there's a whole nother tribe waiting for you on the other side of being true
- 20:24to yourself.
- 20:25Yeah, it's it's it's one of those things that I've I've found that
- 20:29and you probably have seen this a lot,
- 20:32you know, anytime that there is any kind of change,
- 20:35it's it's it can be a very painful process,
- 20:38not only for yourself, but for for those individuals.
- 20:41And it's almost a fight or flight mentality where we're we we typically don't wanna
- 20:47face it, we don't wanna deal with it,
- 20:49and we will do anything to avoid that level of pain.
- 20:54Yeah, and a good analogy is like think of yourself tethered to
- 20:57an important person in your life.
- 20:59You're tethered together by a rope and you're both climbing this mountain together,
- 21:02this mountain of life. If you keep climbing and that person stops,
- 21:07inevitably there's going to be immense tension created on that rope.
- 21:10And if you want to keep going,
- 21:12you either have to keep doing what you're doing and drag that person with you.
- 21:16And hey, maybe they'll pick up,
- 21:17they'll catch on, you'll motivate and inspire them,
- 21:19or you got to cut the rope.
- 21:21Yeah, and like you said, it's it's not an easy thing to to do or it's
- 21:26not an easy thing to come to that realization,
- 21:29but there is such a thing as as toxic relationships when it comes to that type
- 21:35of thing.
- 21:36There is.
- 21:37You know, I'm I'm gonna kind of be a little vulnerable here because I've I've
- 21:40and I've shared shared it with the audience before is that I have
- 21:43a tendency of battling that negative self-talk and I so I kinda find
- 21:49it that I'm drow constantly having to drown it out with positive podcasts
- 21:55and audiobooks, and so I'm just constantly listening to different things.
- 21:59Do you have other strategies to help with something like that?
- 22:02So I can speak directly to you and ask a couple of questions in return,
- 22:05or I can speak generally. What do you prefer?
- 22:08I'll leave it to you.
- 22:10Well, I'll speak generally and allow you to chime in with your personal story
- 22:13as you see fit. What I have observed is,
- 22:15you know, candidly, we all have some variation of this harsh inner critic,
- 22:19that version of ourselves that says,
- 22:21you know, you suck, you're not worthy,
- 22:22why bother? It'll never work, or who is incredibly critical on the results
- 22:26or lack thereof that we experience.
- 22:28More often than not, as we go deeper and deeper,
- 22:31what I have observed, you know,
- 22:33coaching thousands of individuals,
- 22:35is there's a deep seated belief.
- 22:38Of I'm not enough. I'm not worthy.
- 22:41I'm not deserving. And that voice,
- 22:44that inner chatter that grows louder from time to time is just simply
- 22:49a byproduct of that belief. So the work that needs to be done is examining when,
- 22:56why, and how you began to believe you weren't worthy,
- 22:59deserving, or capable. And when we do the work to unlearn that belief.
- 23:04We often find that that chatter grows significantly quieter and comes around
- 23:09far less often.
- 23:11Hmm. Well, I I appreciate that insight.
- 23:13I was hoping in the last few minutes that we have here together,
- 23:17we could spend some times talking about some success stories.
- 23:22I'm sure that you have some primary examples of working with somebody
- 23:26and where they started and where they are today.
- 23:29Yeah,
- 23:29happy. So in the investment realm,
- 23:31you know, I have a client of mine.
- 23:32He is the youngest of four. And all this background story is important.
- 23:36It'll make sense in a moment why I share it all.
- 23:38He's the youngest of four. All boys,
- 23:40all of his older brothers were incredibly smart,
- 23:43great academically, even better athletically.
- 23:45Dad had a military background,
- 23:48dad was an entrepreneur, dad was that stereotypical man's man,
- 23:52always going, didn't show emotion,
- 23:54emotionally constipated, if you will.
- 23:56So this boy, James,
- 23:59The youngest of four struggled to stand out.
- 24:02How do I get attention? How do I keep up?
- 24:04All my brothers get all this attention.
- 24:06I'm going in the car to all of their events,
- 24:08following mom and dad to them.
- 24:10He felt like he was always left out.
- 24:12So what inevitably happened is one day he decided that he has to go above
- 24:17and beyond to stand out and get recognition from his dad.
- 24:21And as we've unpacked our journey together,
- 24:23that's all that little boy wanted was to be seen.
- 24:26By dad to get dad to feel proud of him,
- 24:29to feel he was worthy in dad's eyes.
- 24:31So James, as a result, developed a phenomenal work ethic.
- 24:35He too, straight A's, top of his class,
- 24:38incredibly gifted in the sports he played,
- 24:40went on to college, joined the military,
- 24:43joined the special forces branch of that particular division of the military.
- 24:46So, you know, on paper, you know,
- 24:48due to special forces in the military,
- 24:51he's checking all these boxes.
- 24:53Still incredibly unfulfilled, unhappy,
- 24:56always doing, always going. He retires after a 20-year career,
- 25:00where the last of last 10 of which he's been getting into real estate investing.
- 25:04He's had got a couple properties under his belt.
- 25:06He's got a couple multifamily units.
- 25:08And by the time he retires, he's got a portfolio of over 50 million dollars.
- 25:12He's coaching other real estate investors and working with various agents
- 25:16in different capacities. Completely addicted to his work,
- 25:21not married.
- 25:23No kids, very few relationships,
- 25:25always has his guard up. And through some very candid conversations,
- 25:30despite all the money under his name,
- 25:32despite all of the external success,
- 25:34he was unhappy, unfulfilled, running on fumes of anxiety,
- 25:39stress, and fear. And if anything,
- 25:41his relationship with his dad was even more distant.
- 25:44So this success story isn't about more money in the bank.
- 25:48It was about how we got to.
- 25:50really understand how this need to prove myself energy,
- 25:54I don't feel worthy enough energy,
- 25:57it allowed him to develop the success he had now,
- 26:00but it was not the fuel source that was going to get him to the next level.
- 26:03It was not the fuel source that was going to create an opportunity
- 26:06to bring a significant other in his life,
- 26:08to slow down and even have time,
- 26:10space, or thought for a family.
- 26:12So through our work together, we've been able to start cultivating a sense
- 26:16of safety slowing down.
- 26:19A definitive skill of becoming not only emotionally aware,
- 26:23you know, the big big upgrade here was going from emotionally avoidant
- 26:27to emotionally aware, to emotionally accepting,
- 26:30beginning to understand it's safe to show and feel emotion as a man,
- 26:34which has directly translated into his ability to lead
- 26:37and effectively communicate with his team,
- 26:40where now a year later, he's not nearly as hands-on.
- 26:43He's taking care of himself. And by the way,
- 26:47his business continues to grow.
- 26:49But he's spending significantly less time there and he's
- 26:51out building relationships and leaving a positive impact in his community with
- 26:55all the time he now has available to him.
- 26:57And if all that sounds great to you,
- 26:59you probably need to talk to Paul.
- 27:01why don't you give him them everybody your podcast again,
- 27:06Paul, or where they could reach you directly.
- 27:09Happy to. So again, I'm the host of the Unstuck High Performer podcast.
- 27:13If this conversation has resonated with you or one on my episode one
- 27:17of my episodes does, there's always a link in the show notes
- 27:20to apply from one-on-one private coaching.
- 27:22And then from a social media perspective,
- 27:24at the Paul Salter on Instagram,
- 27:27TikTok, and YouTube.
- 27:29And well, if you unless there is anything else we should have hit on,
- 27:32Paul, we'll jump into the rapid fire questions.
- 27:35I always find it interesting to I'm gonna ask you directly,
- 27:38Jack. Like, you know, you hear hypnotherapy,
- 27:41hypnosis, you know, you've been in your respective space for a very long time.
- 27:45You have dedicated a significant portion of your life to self development
- 27:49and improvement. Where does hypnosis,
- 27:51when you hear that word, what comes up for you?
- 27:53Because I imagine that same experience is likely similar for your audience.
- 27:58Well, I I hate to say this but the first thing that comes to mind is the
- 28:02is the live shows we you'd go to and people are being told act like chickens
- 28:08and stuff. Like you know, that's that's the first thing that comes to mind.
- 28:12I know that there is some some power associated with it,
- 28:17but I haven't experienced it directly myself.
- 28:21And and to be honest with you,
- 28:23Paul, sometimes I find that you know,
- 28:25I've even heard of people being recessed back into past lives and stuff.
- 28:31I have to say that a lot of that stuff i I think is it gets a little
- 28:34far fetched to me. But I kinda understand the subconscious aspects
- 28:39of what you're talking about.
- 28:41Yeah, I'm so glad you shared that.
- 28:42And I appreciate the candor because I think it is an opportunity just
- 28:44for great education. Because I agree,
- 28:46the first time I heard of it, I'm like,
- 28:47okay, is this person gonna dangle a pocket watch in front of me,
- 28:50get me to cluck like a chicken?
- 28:52And most people think of that stage show,
- 28:54that cruise ship experience they had.
- 28:56But in all reality, the way that I like to really educate around hypnosis
- 29:00is it's not mind control, it's not brainwashing.
- 29:03It's really just a another word to say a
- 29:06Deep state of meditation, meditation on steroids is how a lot of
- 29:09my clients describe it. It's a natural state of mind.
- 29:13I mean, you're awake, you're alert,
- 29:14you're conscious, you're in control every step of the way.
- 29:16It's the same state of mind you're in the moment you transition from sleeping
- 29:20to waking, you're caught up in a good book,
- 29:22your favorite TV show, or you find that flow state on a project or
- 29:26on the golf course. But the real value here,
- 29:29Jack, is that when we intentionally go into this hypnotic state,
- 29:32number one.
- 29:33We quiet that inner critic. And that's tremendously powerful,
- 29:38like we for the reasons we discussed earlier.
- 29:40But then, second is your subconscious influence is 95% of what you
- 29:45do every single day. It's home to your memories,
- 29:47your emotions, your beliefs, and your habits.
- 29:49So I use hypnosis to help the individuals I'm coaching.
- 29:53Uncover the origin of some of those sabotaging behaviors,
- 29:57those limiting beliefs, those irrational fears,
- 30:00so that we can not only uncover why they were learned in the first place,
- 30:03but then we can unlearn them. Take that energy to build a new belief,
- 30:07a new set of complementary behaviors that aligns with that next best version
- 30:12of themselves.
- 30:12Yeah, that makes sense. You know what th that that actually makes it maybe
- 30:16I just came to a realization here regarding what you're talking about because
- 30:20I think, you know, we we try to be honest with ourselves.
- 30:23We might be trying to do some of this work on our own,
- 30:26but in the end we there's a lot of external forces,
- 30:30including our self perception,
- 30:34that we're we're frankly it forces us us not to be.
- 30:38honest with ourselves to to the level I think you're you're diving into.
- 30:44Yeah, exactly. Because, you know,
- 30:45at the end of the day, our identity is so sacred that we want to protect it.
- 30:49So anything that begins to feel incongruent or a threat to our identity,
- 30:53which could be the actual truth in this case,
- 30:55we find several creative and sneaky ways to lie or t tell a different story.
- 31:01You know, th again I'm gonna sh g kinda go off the rails for a second here,
- 31:05but it kind of reminds me of this was a number of years ago that I
- 31:10I took a personality test and and my wife was sitting there next to me
- 31:13and I was answering the questions and she was calling me out on how
- 31:19I was answering some of those and I have to be honest,
- 31:21it was probably the most revealing personality tests I had ever taken.
- 31:27when you have somebody sitting there next to you and and kind of keeping
- 31:31you in check. 'Cause you d you stop answering it the way you think
- 31:35you should instead of the way you you are.
- 31:37Well, if you are ready, Paul, we'll dive into the rapid fire and close
- 31:40out this episode.
- 31:42Rock and roll.
- 31:44What lie do real estate investors often tell themselves?
- 31:47that they will slow down when they hit X number of deals or X number
- 31:51of dollars in their portfolio.
- 31:52If you could go back in time and give your younger self a piece of advice,
- 31:55what would it be?
- 31:57Slow down and have more fun.
- 31:59You help a lot of people unblock themselves and get out of their own way,
- 32:04but what keeps you currently up at night?
- 32:07Mm. So I co parent my eighteen month old son.
- 32:10He's my absolute joy, the love and priority in my life.
- 32:13And I miss him when I don't have him and I am concerned for everything that's going
- 32:18on for him, but so grateful that I get to play such a prominent role in his life.
- 32:22And then finally, what single tool or process have you implemented that
- 32:26has had the biggest time saving impact?
- 32:28Candidly, it's giving myself permission to work less and to work smarter.
- 32:32And that permission has led to shaving off hours and hours per week of time
- 32:37I used to previously waste f trying to feel busy or productive just for
- 32:41the sake of feeling busier productive because I thought that's how it had to be.
- 32:45And if you feel like you need a little help offloading some of that work,
- 32:48that's what I do at Real Deal Crew.
- 32:50So head over there for that information.
- 32:52Paul, one more time, why don't you give everybody your podcast and where they
- 32:56can reach you and then we'll close out the show.
- 32:59Yes, sounds great, Jack. The Unstuck High Performer podcast and at
- 33:03the Paul Salter on Instagram, YouTube,
- 33:05and TikTok.