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Ep. 490: Rut Fresh Radio 12/8/2021 - The Secondary Rut · Wired To Hunt Podcast

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Wired to Hunts Rut Fresh Radio, bringing you
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Speaker 1: the latest reports from the White Tailed Woods and now
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Speaker 1: your host, Spencer new Hearth. This is episode four ninety
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Speaker 1: Wired to Haunts Rout Fresh Radio powered by First Light,
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Speaker 1: and this week we're talking about the secondary rut. Welcome
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Speaker 1: to Wired to Haunts Rut Fresh Radio. I am Spencer
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Speaker 1: new Hearth and this week I am joined by nobody.
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Speaker 1: Whereas I would normally be joined by Tony or Mark Um,
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Speaker 1: this week I am sitting in my pickup in the
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Speaker 1: middle of nowhere in Texas, struggling to find internet or
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Speaker 1: time to make this podcast, so I'm doing it by
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Speaker 1: myself in the driver's seat of my truck. Now, if
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Speaker 1: one of those guys were here, what we would talk
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Speaker 1: about is the secondary rut. If you're not familiar, the
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Speaker 1: secondary rut is when the does who didn't get bread
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Speaker 1: in November coming to ask just the second time. This
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Speaker 1: takes place exactly one month after peak breeding, which is
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Speaker 1: early to mid December for most of the white tails range.
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Speaker 1: This is also when you have young of the year
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Speaker 1: fonds who will enter their first cycle. Now bucks know
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Speaker 1: this and they act accordingly. The secondary rut doesn't get
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Speaker 1: the same fanfare as like the o G rut, and
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Speaker 1: that's to be expected. The December rut is quite subdued
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Speaker 1: um for me, and what I've seen is that buck
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Speaker 1: movement is more like pre rut than peak rut when
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Speaker 1: you have a secondary rut happening. Rather than bucks traveling
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Speaker 1: wide open areas at midday like they do in the
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Speaker 1: best days of peak rut, you'll find them staying on
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Speaker 1: food just a bit later in the morning, or getting
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Speaker 1: none out of their beds a bit earlier in the afternoon,
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Speaker 1: like what you see during the best days of pre rut.
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Speaker 1: Secondary rots tend to be most intense in neighborhoods where
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Speaker 1: there's an unbalanced buck to door ratio. So if there
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Speaker 1: are significantly more doughs than bucks in an area, the
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Speaker 1: bucks simply won't be able to breed all the doughs
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Speaker 1: the first time around, creating a stronger rut in December.
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Speaker 1: I've also heard wise white tailors say that if an
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Speaker 1: area had a lot of standing corn present in mid November,
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Speaker 1: that a lot of the doughs go on bread simply
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Speaker 1: because of the lack of visibility that happens during the rout.
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Speaker 1: This isn't something I've necessarily noticed, but the theory to
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Speaker 1: me does make sense now when it comes to hunting,
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Speaker 1: the secondary rut, I have never considered the secondary rut
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Speaker 1: is something that you really target or you plan for.
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Speaker 1: Um and for the average white tailor that's usually going
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Speaker 1: to be the case. The secondary rut can just be
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Speaker 1: like a little sweetener. It's a cherry on top. If
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Speaker 1: you have a traditional late season set up where you're
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Speaker 1: hunting over like a picked corn field, um, and the
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Speaker 1: weather is your typical late season weather, and it's forcing
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Speaker 1: dear to be on that food source. Ideally you're gonna
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Speaker 1: have some does there, and if there's there's does there,
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Speaker 1: then maybe a bucket is gonna show up a little
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Speaker 1: bit sooner than he would have before, or he's going
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Speaker 1: to come in and check out those doughs and move
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Speaker 1: a bit more erratically in a field and maybe draw
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Speaker 1: closer to you than what you would normally see. That's
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Speaker 1: just sort of like what the secondary rot has always
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Speaker 1: been for me, and I think that's how it is
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Speaker 1: for a lot of late season hunters, and that secondary
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Speaker 1: rot is going to be a theme during this week's interviews.
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Speaker 1: This week, you're going to hear from Nate Crick from
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Speaker 1: Identical Draw in Kansas, Taylor Chamberlain from Tethered in Virginia,
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Speaker 1: Joe Call from Minnesota, Rack Stars in Minnesota, and then
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Speaker 1: Jared Larson in Arkansas from on X. But before we
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Speaker 1: get to those interviews, I want to re mind you
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Speaker 1: All right, let's get to our interviews, alright. Enjoining us
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Speaker 1: on the line next is Nate Crick from Identical Draw
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Speaker 1: in Kansas. Now Nate in Kansas. What would you say
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Speaker 1: the bucket activity is ben lately? On a scale of
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Speaker 1: one to ten, I would give it a six lately. Um,
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Speaker 1: that is a kind of a generous number, because the
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Speaker 1: temperatures have been real warm. Um. We've had um some
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Speaker 1: sixty degree days. I'm pretty sure it hits seventy um
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Speaker 1: this last week as well. UM. But honestly, the activity
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Speaker 1: has been okay, and I've been very surprised about the
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Speaker 1: morning daylight activity with some bucks you've had around in
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Speaker 1: the past night. You've described me that you guys often
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Speaker 1: see a December shift on your property in Kansas. What
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Speaker 1: does that mean for you guys? Big ticket at this
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Speaker 1: time of the year. While we see that December shift
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Speaker 1: is we leave um standing food standing crops on our field.
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Speaker 1: We don't harvest any corner beans, so we've got um
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Speaker 1: a few acres of standing food that the deer really
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Speaker 1: come to this time of the year, and it does
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Speaker 1: draw in a whole new batch of um bucks and
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Speaker 1: just a bunch of Doughes as well, um from neighboring
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Speaker 1: properties that don't have that food store. So UM, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: we definitely have that going this time of the year,
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Speaker 1: and it's kind of like December can kind of be
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Speaker 1: like the rut um our our eight acres because we
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Speaker 1: just see a bunch of the year that we have
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Speaker 1: never seen before during the other time of the year.
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Speaker 1: When you get those new bucks showing up in December,
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Speaker 1: does that mean anything for signmaking on your property? Um?
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Speaker 1: Not necessarily sign making. I I was walking around and
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Speaker 1: I saw like the scrapes, some some scrapes are still
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Speaker 1: getting um freshened up here and there they look they
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Speaker 1: look like things are still getting hit. But um, not
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Speaker 1: not as big on the sign making things like that.
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Speaker 1: But if we when we do get those new bucks,
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Speaker 1: we do try to just make a quick jump down
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Speaker 1: there and try to hunt them while they're around that
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Speaker 1: some some will hang around and some will just kind
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Speaker 1: of do a stroll through. What does a morning set
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Speaker 1: up look like for you guys this time of year,
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Speaker 1: mornings are hit or miss at that we hunt maybe
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Speaker 1: half of the mornings. Um. But actually the only good
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Speaker 1: thing these warm tempts have been doing for us at
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Speaker 1: least is it's been giving the morning activity life, which
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Speaker 1: I think when it's like real real cold in the morning,
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Speaker 1: I feel like, um that that deer activity more goes
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Speaker 1: to like a really good evening it but um, the
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Speaker 1: morning activity has been actually pretty decent and um, it's
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Speaker 1: all it's all timber embedding still kind of like almost
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Speaker 1: like the route we're hunting good funnels from food and bedding. Um.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, are are as far as like trail cameras
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Speaker 1: go to our timber um and bedding. Trail cameras are
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Speaker 1: really really active in the mornings on the Kansas A D.
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Speaker 1: Do you guys notice any kind of a shift in
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Speaker 1: bedding when you get into late season, Um, it's it's
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Speaker 1: pretty similar, Um, although it is a little more focused
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Speaker 1: around the food source. We will um just because the
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Speaker 1: deer will be closer to those corn and beans, like
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Speaker 1: the traditional really stick stuff that will use for running
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Speaker 1: kind of anywhere on our eight We do know that
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Speaker 1: they hugged a little tighter to that food source and
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Speaker 1: stuff because I think they will just get up during
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Speaker 1: the middle day, especially if it's cold, and just head
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Speaker 1: out to that food source and then head just I
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Speaker 1: don't know, ten yards back into the timber and bed
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Speaker 1: down until um the evening hours and they'll pop back
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Speaker 1: out in that food source. If you guys are doing
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Speaker 1: some in season scouting this time of year, What are
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Speaker 1: some things that you're looking for? Yeah, so, um, I
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Speaker 1: guess really we don't have a bunch of like fresh
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Speaker 1: sign right now that you kind of looking for in
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Speaker 1: October and November time frame. But right now, um, we're
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Speaker 1: mainly paying attention to large trail systems coming from food
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Speaker 1: or like two foods something somewhere along that was line, like,
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Speaker 1: they'll be pretty beaten down this time of the year
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Speaker 1: where those deer are heading and um as, so it's
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Speaker 1: usually the food sources are our top of the mind
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Speaker 1: for the creators. So a lot of these scouting will
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Speaker 1: be walking field edges and seeing really where they're they're
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Speaker 1: going to those food sources and then make your setup
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Speaker 1: pinched down to those areas going forward. Then in the
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Speaker 1: sixt week or so, what do you think that bucketctivty
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Speaker 1: is going to be on a scale of one to
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Speaker 1: ten in Kansas, I'd probably say about the same. Right
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Speaker 1: around the right around the six um, temperatures are going
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Speaker 1: back up. We had a two day cold snap here, um,
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Speaker 1: but now they're going to be back in the fifties
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Speaker 1: and sixties. But um, you're still gonna be moving. They're
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Speaker 1: still gonna be hitting food doors that I believe, So
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Speaker 1: I mean we might be all still get on on
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Speaker 1: a buck this time of the year. So um, still
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Speaker 1: still saying hopeful. Alright, Nate, good luck to you and
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Speaker 1: your brother. Thanks for joining me all right and joining
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Speaker 1: us on the line. Next is Taylor Chamberlain in Virginia
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Speaker 1: from Tethered now Taylor in Virginia. What would you say
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Speaker 1: the buck activity has been lately on a scale of
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Speaker 1: one to ten, I still one in time, We've had
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Speaker 1: about a seven of bluck activity. We really started to
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Speaker 1: see the peak of the second run, so all those
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Speaker 1: those that were not bred to first go around are
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Speaker 1: really popping right now. And so the bucks are out
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Speaker 1: cruising and I'm starting to see tons of deer daylight
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Speaker 1: hours all day long, and and they're really kind of
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Speaker 1: just searching for the next hot though to get on. Historically,
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Speaker 1: do you always expect to see a strong secondary run
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Speaker 1: in an urban area. Yes, so we see a really
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Speaker 1: really really on the secondary and third rut just because
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Speaker 1: of our bucket doo ratio is so high that um,
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Speaker 1: it's just not possible to breed all the dose off
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Speaker 1: the bat. So they come in a second time and
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Speaker 1: often times a third time and then even sometimes those
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Speaker 1: newborn bonds will come in uh four months past, like
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Speaker 1: the quote unquote uh first rut. So we see pretty
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Speaker 1: strong rut activity in December, January, and I've even seen
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Speaker 1: some chasing in the February. What are some food sources
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Speaker 1: that are relevant in an urban environment in the east
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Speaker 1: right now? So I look for very high steam count areas.
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Speaker 1: Um So a lot of like brushy thickets tend to
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Speaker 1: be great this time of year. That's where a lot
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Speaker 1: of dose are hiding because they're going to be messed with.
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Speaker 1: But also anywhere where there's been a large abundance of
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Speaker 1: red oaks, they tend to be really palatable right now. Um,
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Speaker 1: I think that the tannins that are and I'm kind
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Speaker 1: of dispaid a little bit after they went on the
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Speaker 1: ground for a little while. So those red oaces tend
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Speaker 1: to get pounded. But I really really look for big thick,
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Speaker 1: brushy bottoms and if they have like a lot of
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Speaker 1: thorns and thickets in them, the deer will like to
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Speaker 1: kind of nibble on those buds. And that is just
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Speaker 1: could not be hotter this time of year. Does your
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Speaker 1: mobile hunting set up change for you as we get
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Speaker 1: into the late season. Yeah, so I hang and hunt
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Speaker 1: everywhere I go. That's kind of a dual wrong reason why. One,
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Speaker 1: in areas where I used to leave climbing sticks up,
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Speaker 1: I found myself being lazy and kind of hunting that
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Speaker 1: tree rather than hunting the right tree to be in. Um,
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Speaker 1: so I took all my climbing six downs force myself
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Speaker 1: to hunt the correct tree. Uh. And then secondarily on
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Speaker 1: that is because I don't want any sign of a
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Speaker 1: hunter back there. I mean this time of year, when
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Speaker 1: there are no leaves on the trees, there's no foliage,
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Speaker 1: it's really really easy spot those black straps on trees,
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Speaker 1: and I don't want to leave any sign for both
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Speaker 1: other homeowners to see that there's hunting going on, but
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Speaker 1: also for other hunters to see, because if other hunters
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Speaker 1: see those spots, then maybe they might think, well, hey,
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Speaker 1: if a hunter is already hunting there, then I can
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Speaker 1: go get permission on that property much easier than another one.
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Speaker 1: So I a couple of years ago removed all of
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Speaker 1: my preset locations. I just hanging hunt every time, and
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Speaker 1: I have plenty of trees that are prepped and cut
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Speaker 1: out and ready to go, but they just don't have
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Speaker 1: the sticks in them. When we have the secondary rut happening,
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Speaker 1: do you notice an uptick and signmaking at all? I do.
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Speaker 1: Scrapes are are still a very very hot commodity because
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Speaker 1: you know, that's how those deer communicating, and so bucks
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Speaker 1: are gonna always kind of go to those scrapes. They're
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Speaker 1: gonna try and see what's in the area, and a
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Speaker 1: lot of rubbing as well. But outside of that, I
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Speaker 1: also know that those deer are trying to use sent
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Speaker 1: to their advantage, and so I'm hunting in areas that
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Speaker 1: might be nearest scrape and near a primary scrape as
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Speaker 1: well as to where a buck might want to cruise
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Speaker 1: cent check in area. And that is just a killer
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Speaker 1: setup for this time of year. Where are you running
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Speaker 1: your trail cameras right now? I'm running my trail cameras
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Speaker 1: in those locations. So I want to find like a
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Speaker 1: scrape and then maybe a travel path two and from
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Speaker 1: that scrape, or or maybe two or three um trails
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Speaker 1: that kind of intersect at one location, because that's the
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Speaker 1: highest probability for massive ger movement. What I'm trying to
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Speaker 1: do is inventory not only the deer that they're using
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Speaker 1: those spots, but the time that they're using them. You know,
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Speaker 1: spots no good to me. If a gear is using
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Speaker 1: it at two o'clock in the morning, it's really good
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Speaker 1: to me if they're using it at nine thirty in
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Speaker 1: the morning or at three o'clock in the afternoon. So
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Speaker 1: I try to position my cameras where I can get
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Speaker 1: the most intelligence not only in the time of data
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Speaker 1: they're using, but also what deer are using it going forward.
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Speaker 1: Then in the next week or so, what do you
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Speaker 1: think that bucket activity is going to be on a
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Speaker 1: scale of one to ten in Virginia. I think we're
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Speaker 1: gonna be at seven or eight. Man, I mean we're
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Speaker 1: we're not full wide than like we were in November seven,
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Speaker 1: but we're gonna be pretty darn close. So I think
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Speaker 1: that we're If you're able to hunt, you need to
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Speaker 1: get out in the tree and uh and get ready
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Speaker 1: because it's a great opportunity to put it year down.
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Speaker 1: A piece can find where a cruising buck is overlapping
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Speaker 1: with a seating area, you're gonna see arguably better dear
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Speaker 1: movement than you were in early November. This is one
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Speaker 1: of my favorite times a year to put the deer down.
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Speaker 1: All right, Taylor, good luck the rest of your season.
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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining me, Thanks for having me all right
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Speaker 1: and joining us on the line. Next is Joe call
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Speaker 1: from Minnesota. Rack Stars in Minnesota. Now, Joe in Minnesota,
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Speaker 1: what would you say the bucket activities been lately on
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Speaker 1: a scale of one to ten? Well, I would have
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Speaker 1: to say it was probably around uh seven with this
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Speaker 1: nice cold front we had to come through. I've heard
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Speaker 1: some guys seeing some good buck activity. And then also
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Speaker 1: it's a nice picture of a buck that was harvest
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Speaker 1: here uh a day ago, so that that cold front
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Speaker 1: had just come through really got the dear moving. But
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Speaker 1: you know it's it's supposed to warm up here a
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Speaker 1: little bit, which will make things a little more difficult.
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Speaker 1: But currently here, I mean activity has picked up a
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Speaker 1: little bit. I know you run a lot of trail
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Speaker 1: cameras there. Where do you want that was placed in
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Speaker 1: early December? I actually just moved one um to a scrape.
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Speaker 1: Uh it's it's a scrape that is there a year
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Speaker 1: after year, and I actually just moved it there and
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Speaker 1: I picked up a two and a half year old
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Speaker 1: that I've that I've had on camera, but I haven't
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Speaker 1: had him on camera since the gun season here, but
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Speaker 1: I moved it over there and I picked him up
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Speaker 1: on camera. So I think, uh, you know, you kind
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Speaker 1: of want to keep them those scrapes. Yet they're still
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Speaker 1: hitting those scrapes, whether it's the bucks looking for you know,
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Speaker 1: some of those doughs that are going to come into
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Speaker 1: Astris here yet um or just you know, you might
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Speaker 1: catch a cruiser coming through as well. But I think, uh,
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Speaker 1: you know, one of the main things I would focus
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Speaker 1: on is is scrapes. Then obviously your food sources to
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Speaker 1: um the only thing with the food sources, you might
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Speaker 1: be getting a few more you know, night pictures. But
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Speaker 1: I think if you're focusing on trying to harvest the book,
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Speaker 1: I would I would probably transition those those cameras to
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Speaker 1: those scrapes and what food sources are relevant right now.
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Speaker 1: I think, you know, king is is the corn and beans.
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Speaker 1: I believe along with mixing in Braska's I love always
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Speaker 1: mixing in um those Braskas with with my corn and beans.
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Speaker 1: But I know a lot of guys have been saying
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Speaker 1: that there's been a lot of a lot of deer
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Speaker 1: hitting hitting the corn and being especially with that cold
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Speaker 1: front like I was talking about just coming through. But
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Speaker 1: I've had a lot of success late season, you know,
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Speaker 1: on on those particular food sources. In December in Minnesota,
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Speaker 1: do you notice better movement in the mornings or afternoons.
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Speaker 1: You know, it's the I've had some success, you know,
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Speaker 1: seeing some good mature deer on their feet in the mornings.
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Speaker 1: But I think more or less that might be because
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Speaker 1: somebody else was out hunting. It might have pushed them
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Speaker 1: a little bit. I would focus more on the evenings, um.
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Speaker 1: But the only thing is in the evenings, UM, I would.
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Speaker 1: I would try to get into some cover if possible.
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Speaker 1: I know everybody's hunting setup is is different, but if
17:11
Speaker 1: you have an opportunity, you know, I would. I would
17:13
Speaker 1: mainly focus on like a transition area if anything. Um,
17:17
Speaker 1: it's just that those deer, you know, it's it's survival
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Speaker 1: moment for those guys right now. And and we just
17:23
Speaker 1: finished up with our our firearms season and now Musloton
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Speaker 1: seasons open, and and those deer, I mean, they're on
17:29
Speaker 1: pins and needles right now, and they're gonna do whatever
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Speaker 1: it takes to survive. And and the big boys they
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Speaker 1: know that they can't step out, you know, until dark.
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Speaker 1: So you know, if you're gonna focus on trying to
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Speaker 1: harvest something, that would I would definitely get off the
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Speaker 1: food sources, you know, a couple hundred yards and try
17:45
Speaker 1: to intercept something there. Do you usually notice the shift
17:49
Speaker 1: in bedding this time of year? Yeah? So I was
17:52
Speaker 1: actually talking to a buddy of mine and uh, he
17:55
Speaker 1: was out this last week and he hopped up in
17:58
Speaker 1: the stand. Specifically, you went on a south side slope
18:01
Speaker 1: where he could see a ways and he caught a
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Speaker 1: buck as soon as he got up in the stand.
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Speaker 1: He was better than a south side slope. So come
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Speaker 1: December here, you know, focus more on those south sides
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Speaker 1: if possible, or if you have you know, a spot
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Speaker 1: in your timber that might be you know open where
18:16
Speaker 1: some sun I can get through. You know, those might
18:18
Speaker 1: be good betting areas now, um for those deer you know,
18:22
Speaker 1: come December here in colder temperatures going forward, then in
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Speaker 1: the sext week or so, what do you think that
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Speaker 1: buck activity is going to be on a scale of
18:29
Speaker 1: one to ten in Minnesota? Man, I I look at
18:34
Speaker 1: the forecast, you know, the upcoming forecast, and and I
18:37
Speaker 1: just don't see anything really too, you know, kick things
18:40
Speaker 1: in the high gear. But you know, like we're talking about,
18:43
Speaker 1: just do you never know if that that though is
18:46
Speaker 1: coming into asterisk yet in your area and and if so,
18:49
Speaker 1: I mean you're can attract some bucks. But um, you know,
18:53
Speaker 1: one thing I looked at this Saturday, it's supposed to
18:55
Speaker 1: be sunny. You know, it's supposed to be cloudy throughout
18:56
Speaker 1: the week here. Um, if if I were to pick
18:59
Speaker 1: a day to go out, I would maybe shoot for
19:02
Speaker 1: for Saturday if it's gonna be sunny in your area,
19:04
Speaker 1: and maybe you're gonna catch some of some of those deer,
19:06
Speaker 1: you know, enjoying that sunlight. But I mean, to be
19:09
Speaker 1: honest with you, My my guess is probably gonna be
19:11
Speaker 1: around the five. I mean, I don't think it's gonna
19:14
Speaker 1: be any higher or less. Um. You know, just with
19:16
Speaker 1: the temperature is kind of leveling out here in December.
19:20
Speaker 1: Usually as hunters, we want to cold temperatures in the
19:23
Speaker 1: north and um, you know we're just not going to
19:25
Speaker 1: get those temperatures. But anything had happened right now, and
19:29
Speaker 1: like I said, if you can catch a dollan estris, um,
19:31
Speaker 1: you know, good things might happen for you, all right, Joe,
19:34
Speaker 1: good luck to you and everyone else from Minnesota rack Stars.
19:37
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining me. Sounds good. Thanks Spencer all right
19:40
Speaker 1: and joining us on the line. Next is Jared Larson
19:42
Speaker 1: from on X in Arkansas. Jared in Arkansas, what would
19:46
Speaker 1: you say the buck activity has been lately on a
19:48
Speaker 1: scale of one to ten? So I just finished up
19:50
Speaker 1: a hot in Arkansas yesterday actually, and I would rate
19:54
Speaker 1: it as maybe like three UM from my experience in
19:58
Speaker 1: the camp I was in. I was hunting with uh
20:01
Speaker 1: five other guys, so we had plenty of guys in
20:03
Speaker 1: the woods and we were running, and then we gained
20:07
Speaker 1: some access to private for two days. On the public,
20:10
Speaker 1: i'd have rated it as a one UM and on
20:12
Speaker 1: the private probably like five UM. And so really it
20:17
Speaker 1: was an evening game for us. We had some really
20:20
Speaker 1: hot weather. In fact, I believe it was record high
20:22
Speaker 1: temps on like December two and third, we hit like
20:26
Speaker 1: seventy six UM. So anytime that you're in record high,
20:30
Speaker 1: especially late in the season like that, it's it's gonna
20:33
Speaker 1: be some tough sledding. But you can't kill me if
20:35
Speaker 1: you're not out there. Did that mean a shift to
20:38
Speaker 1: focusing on water for you guys, or did you still
20:40
Speaker 1: focus on late season things like food. Yeah, so we
20:44
Speaker 1: we definitely tried a couple of different tactics. I sat
20:47
Speaker 1: over upon one evening, we tried to find like cool
20:51
Speaker 1: north facing slopes that would have good potential betting areas
20:55
Speaker 1: and just trying to get in real tight. We figured
20:58
Speaker 1: it was gonna be more of an e the game.
21:00
Speaker 1: Didn't have much confidence in mornings at all, just because
21:05
Speaker 1: of the temps and deer really not needing seeing as much.
21:09
Speaker 1: We're in the northwest part of Arkansas, so that has
21:12
Speaker 1: a more traditional rut, you know, kind of that Halloween
21:15
Speaker 1: the first couple of weeks in November. Now, I did
21:18
Speaker 1: know some guys that were down in like the Delta
21:20
Speaker 1: in the southern and eastern parts of Arkansas that had
21:23
Speaker 1: much better action than we did, as their rut is
21:26
Speaker 1: more you know, kind of peeking right in the early
21:29
Speaker 1: part of December here. Um. But yeah, with those hot temps,
21:32
Speaker 1: we're focusing on cool places, really getting in tight to betting, um.
21:37
Speaker 1: And then in the evenings, you know, just finding what
21:40
Speaker 1: food source deer we're hitting, and on public you know,
21:43
Speaker 1: there was a ton of acorns where we were, but
21:46
Speaker 1: they really didn't seem keyed in on that. So that
21:48
Speaker 1: really led our shift to go find a chunk of
21:50
Speaker 1: private land as we were seeing a pilot deer you
21:53
Speaker 1: know mostly does coming out into you know, just pastor
21:57
Speaker 1: land hayfields. Um. And so that's really the last two
22:00
Speaker 1: days we spent on private land, just trying to find
22:03
Speaker 1: those cool north facing betting areas with close proximity to
22:08
Speaker 1: a hayfield and getting into tight So in northern Arkansas,
22:12
Speaker 1: what would you label this phase of the rut as
22:14
Speaker 1: right now? Oh, I would definitely label it as post
22:18
Speaker 1: rut um. You know, one of the guys in camp
22:21
Speaker 1: definitely saw a couple of bucks that were out speaking,
22:24
Speaker 1: so potentially finding those second cycle estris does you know,
22:28
Speaker 1: given about a month back from that that peak rut
22:31
Speaker 1: you know peak breading day of you know what they
22:33
Speaker 1: claim as November early November there um, So certainly some
22:38
Speaker 1: you know second Estrius does could be running around, but
22:42
Speaker 1: I would definitely categorize it as as post route. If
22:45
Speaker 1: you're doing some digital scouting on on X in the
22:48
Speaker 1: South in December, what are some things that you're keying
22:50
Speaker 1: in on, So a few things I would be looking
22:53
Speaker 1: for is I'd really be turning on our photography base
22:57
Speaker 1: map as you said, if it's hot, find water, but
23:01
Speaker 1: otherwise find those good betting areas. And we've added a
23:05
Speaker 1: couple of recent layers. UM. If you go into your
23:09
Speaker 1: my Layers tab and over the layer library, you can
23:13
Speaker 1: turn on the tree species and habitat types maps. It's
23:16
Speaker 1: a new layer. It's gonna show you where acorn producing
23:19
Speaker 1: oaks are, where thermal cover is so pending what situation
23:24
Speaker 1: you're in, what kind of weather you have, and there's
23:26
Speaker 1: actually a really good cold front moving into the region
23:29
Speaker 1: uh this coming weekend. UH, So I would turn on
23:33
Speaker 1: one of our new layers with that free species and
23:35
Speaker 1: habitats habitat types and focus in on you know, specific
23:39
Speaker 1: oak areas or finding that thermal deer cover moving in
23:42
Speaker 1: sight to betting between betting and food and make it
23:45
Speaker 1: happen going forward. Then in this next week or so,
23:48
Speaker 1: what do you think that bucket TV is going to
23:50
Speaker 1: be on a scale of one to ten in Arkansas? So,
23:53
Speaker 1: just given the hot weather that has been present for
23:55
Speaker 1: the last week or so, UM, and there's a major
23:59
Speaker 1: temperature change again looks like it's coming in on Friday,
24:02
Speaker 1: so I would guess that bucks are gonna be on
24:05
Speaker 1: their feet looking for those second cycholesterous does. I'm gonna
24:08
Speaker 1: give it, you know, somewhere between the six and the seven,
24:11
Speaker 1: and good time to go out there and punch a
24:14
Speaker 1: late season buck tag. All right, Jared, good luck with
24:16
Speaker 1: the rest of your season. Thanks for joining me. Appreciated Spencer,
24:21
Speaker 1: And that concludes this week's episode of Wired Haunts rout
24:24
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24:28
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24:31
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