Latest / Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald / Jay Shetty and Queer Eye’s Jonathan Van Ness Scandals
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Heather MacDonald has got the Juicy Scoop. When you're on
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- 0:23Speaker 2: Listen in, listen up.
- 0:25Speaker 1: Woo, woo. Heather MacDonald.
- 0:28Speaker 3: Juicy Scoop.
- 0:31Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. This is a jam-packed show.
- 0:35Speaker 1: This is what you've been asking for. All the hot topics,
- 0:38Speaker 1: the updates, my opinions on everything juicy, the shows we're watching,
- 0:44Speaker 1: everything in the news. Let's get into it. Well, I
- 0:48Speaker 1: read this long article last night and I thought it
- 0:50Speaker 1: was fascinating. Jay Shetty, I have never talked about him
- 0:55Speaker 1: on Juicy Scoop, but I became aware of him probably
- 0:58Speaker 1: in the last couple of years. I know people love him.
- 1:01Speaker 1: They live by him. I'm just going to give a
- 1:04Speaker 1: little summary of him and then what this is about.
- 1:06Speaker 1: So he is a hugely successful spiritual motivator. person. He married,
- 1:14Speaker 1: I think he married Jen Jalo and Ben Affleck. He's
- 1:18Speaker 1: friends with all these celebrities. He's been on Ellen. He
- 1:22Speaker 1: was on the Red Table Talk many times. He was
- 1:26Speaker 1: a monk and he wrote a book, Think Like a Monk.
- 1:29Speaker 1: And he's a really good looking Indian man with piercing
- 1:34Speaker 1: light blue eyes. He's married, soft spoken, comes off humble,
- 1:39Speaker 1: total delight. And He is super successful. He's written numerous books.
- 1:45Speaker 1: And this woman goes to do an interview for Vulture.
- 1:50Speaker 1: And she starts to uncover some things about him that
- 1:55Speaker 1: don't go with the story that he's told for the
- 1:57Speaker 1: last eight years. His journey of going to school in
- 2:01Speaker 1: England where he was supposed to go and be live
- 2:03Speaker 1: a corporate life. And then one day he like saw
- 2:06Speaker 1: a monk speak and he was like, that's it. I
- 2:08Speaker 1: was going to go to the pub after, but I
- 2:10Speaker 1: went and saw this. And then I became a monk.
- 2:12Speaker 1: And the article is a lot, especially if you're not
- 2:15Speaker 1: that familiar with them. But I'm just going to give
- 2:17Speaker 1: you my version, my summary. So He comes off great.
- 2:22Speaker 1: All these celebrities love him. He is their spiritual guru
- 2:27Speaker 1: and friend. I remember listening to the interview he did
- 2:31Speaker 1: with Jada Pinkett Smith right after her book came out.
- 2:35Speaker 1: And I mean, they were best buddies and all of this. Now,
- 2:38Speaker 1: you know how much I've gotten into Jada Pinkett Smith's life,
- 2:42Speaker 1: my opinion, the fact that I think she is a
- 2:44Speaker 1: full-blown narcissist. That is my opinion. I've read the book.
- 2:48Speaker 1: I've seen the interviews. That's my opinion as someone who's
- 2:52Speaker 1: not a therapist. And I remember hearing this and that
- 2:56Speaker 1: was the first time I'd ever heard a Jay Shetty show.
- 2:58Speaker 1: And I was like, this guy is just feeding her ego. He's,
- 3:03Speaker 1: this is all like, is he ever going to call
- 3:06Speaker 1: her out on her shit? You know, like I thought
- 3:07Speaker 1: it was a little whatever, but I'm like, people love him.
- 3:11Speaker 1: Kim Kardashian's been on a show. All these people have
- 3:13Speaker 1: been on a show and everyone loves him and thinks
- 3:15Speaker 1: he's fabulous. But I'm like, whatever, you know, fine. And
- 3:19Speaker 1: so in the article, she starts finding as she's doing
- 3:23Speaker 1: the article, all these indiscrepancies that don't go along with
- 3:28Speaker 1: his story. And the story is what I talk about,
- 3:30Speaker 1: the flex, the flex of I came from nothing. I
- 3:34Speaker 1: did this thing and now I'm here. And what an
- 3:37Speaker 1: amazing story that I was a monk, but I'm not
- 3:40Speaker 1: going to make you become a monk or become a Buddhist.
- 3:43Speaker 1: I'm just going to take what I learned and give
- 3:45Speaker 1: it to you.
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- 4:13Speaker 1: So a lot of what he said now is not
- 4:17Speaker 1: exactly the truth. And people that love him are going
- 4:20Speaker 1: to be mad that I'm even saying this. They're going
- 4:22Speaker 1: to be like, who cares? He's still helping people. I
- 4:25Speaker 1: do care. Just like I cared when Hilaria acted like
- 4:28Speaker 1: she was Spanish and tried to keep that going. And
- 4:33Speaker 1: her own husband probably never asked her where she went
- 4:35Speaker 1: to high school. Alec Baldwin didn't care. I don't like it.
- 4:39Speaker 1: I think it's untrue. And if all of a sudden
- 4:41Speaker 1: you guys found out that I had never gone to
- 4:44Speaker 1: Catholic school, that my parents were not realtors, that I
- 4:48Speaker 1: hadn't gone on a million auditions that I didn't get,
- 4:50Speaker 1: that I, you know, you'd be like, that's weird. Did
- 4:54Speaker 1: you know that Heather was actually from Orange County and
- 4:58Speaker 1: went to a private non-denominational school and then acted like
- 5:02Speaker 1: her stories of placing pumpkins on potential listings in the
- 5:07Speaker 1: neighborhood so that her parents could pay for private school
- 5:09Speaker 1: isn't true. And I am not saying I lived a
- 5:11Speaker 1: hard life at all. I'm just saying, I told you
- 5:14Speaker 1: what my life was and now you're going to find
- 5:15Speaker 1: out that really wasn't right. The years are off. It
- 5:19Speaker 1: wasn't 19, it was 21 or vice versa. I think
- 5:22Speaker 1: that's weird. I don't think he's going to lose anything
- 5:26Speaker 1: from it. He'll probably only become more popular. All the
- 5:29Speaker 1: Juicy Scoopers now know who he is because I've never,
- 5:32Speaker 1: literally never said his name before on this show in
- 5:34Speaker 1: eight and a half years. So he'll probably benefit from
- 5:37Speaker 1: me talking about it, but I find it really interesting
- 5:40Speaker 1: in this day and age. So what he started to
- 5:42Speaker 1: do is while he was monkeying or whatever you want
- 5:44Speaker 1: to call it, he was smart enough to get into YouTube.
- 5:49Speaker 1: And he's so charming and he has a It's why
- 5:53Speaker 1: people hire people with British accents to be the hostess
- 5:57Speaker 1: at a fancy restaurant or their receptionist. It just makes
- 6:00Speaker 1: you feel like you're in a classier place. It's just
- 6:03Speaker 1: like when you hear a little child with a British accent,
- 6:05Speaker 1: you immediately think they're smarter than your kid. It's just
- 6:07Speaker 1: something that we Americans are guilty of myself. So I
- 6:11Speaker 1: think the English accent, the good looks, he's Indian, he's
- 6:14Speaker 1: a monk who wouldn't question it. But about four years ago,
- 6:18Speaker 1: Nicole Arbor, who has a very popular YouTube channel, she
- 6:21Speaker 1: was kind of bigger in the news A few years ago,
- 6:24Speaker 1: because she was controversial, but she was a huge YouTuber,
- 6:27Speaker 1: she discovered that he was taking all this content and
- 6:32Speaker 1: inspirational quotes and things from non-famous content creators and also
- 6:38Speaker 1: famous ones like Tony Robbins. But even Tony Robbins, when
- 6:42Speaker 1: he started his whole thing, said, I read all these
- 6:45Speaker 1: books and And I kind of put together my own program,
- 6:48Speaker 1: but Jay Shetty was giving nobody credit for it. He
- 6:51Speaker 1: wasn't giving Tony Robbins credit for it. He wasn't like,
- 6:54Speaker 1: sometimes I will see an inspirational quote and I'll be like, wow,
- 6:58Speaker 1: I really love this. This is something I'm really going
- 6:59Speaker 1: through and I'll just post it on my page, but
- 7:02Speaker 1: it'll have the person's at whatever. Have I messed up
- 7:06Speaker 1: once in my life? Possibly. I'm not a huge person
- 7:10Speaker 1: of posting that stuff, but I always really try to
- 7:12Speaker 1: say this wasn't my idea. If I don't remember it,
- 7:15Speaker 1: I apologize. But this guy was posting, posting, posting and
- 7:18Speaker 1: making it sound like it was his concepts, like he
- 7:21Speaker 1: was coming up with this philosophy himself. So she exposes
- 7:25Speaker 1: him back in 2018 or 19 with her YouTube video.
- 7:30Speaker 1: And he then gets lawyers involved and he's like, we're
- 7:33Speaker 1: sorry and we're never going to do that again and
- 7:35Speaker 1: it's not my fault and I'm cleaning it up and whatever.
- 7:39Speaker 1: Then he goes on to have his very popular podcast
- 7:43Speaker 1: on all these shows. Everyone's loving him, writing these books.
- 7:45Speaker 1: Everyone's loving him. So But the other thing that has
- 7:49Speaker 1: been discovered in doing the deep dive on Jay Shetty
- 7:52Speaker 1: is another thing that I think is– that we're going
- 7:54Speaker 1: to see a lot more of. We've exposed kind of
- 7:58Speaker 1: the evils of multilevel marketing. I've had an author on
- 8:03Speaker 1: that was part of it. We've talked about it. There's
- 8:05Speaker 1: been the– the legging documentary. It's Lala Roe, that whole thing.
- 8:15Speaker 1: There's been podcasts about it. It's fascinating. We've all had
- 8:18Speaker 1: our own experience of ending up at a Mary Kay party.
- 8:22Speaker 1: I've told my own stories and getting sucked into that world.
- 8:25Speaker 1: There's kind of a version of that, but with coaching
- 8:28Speaker 1: and Twin Flames, which was, again, a documentary, a podcast
- 8:34Speaker 1: about these two people that had no credentials at all,
- 8:36Speaker 1: that were complete grifters, started this thing to make people–
- 8:41Speaker 1: convince people that your twin flame is your twin flame,
- 8:44Speaker 1: whether they know it or not, whether they're married to
- 8:46Speaker 1: someone else, whether they're not the sexuality you thought you were,
- 8:50Speaker 1: like that's your person. And they convince them to do
- 8:53Speaker 1: it and they make them pay for these courses. And
- 8:55Speaker 1: then they're like, but now you're certified. So now you
- 8:58Speaker 1: can coach other people. So he has that too. It's
- 9:01Speaker 1: very expensive. He has a coaching, a life coaching thing.
- 9:05Speaker 1: That's like seven, over $ 7, 000. and you can take it
- 9:10Speaker 1: and just save it for yourself and become a life coach,
- 9:13Speaker 1: or then you can start working for the program and
- 9:16Speaker 1: recruiting people to pay the $ 7, 000 so then they can
- 9:19Speaker 1: be life coaches. But the thing is, if everybody's a
- 9:22Speaker 1: life coach, who the fuck is gonna need a life coach?
- 9:24Speaker 1: That's how multi-level marketing works too. If you get too
- 9:28Speaker 1: late into the bottom of the pyramid, everyone in your
- 9:31Speaker 1: neighborhood already has the leggings, already has the skincare, You
- 9:36Speaker 1: don't have access to another fresh 200 people to sell
- 9:40Speaker 1: your story to. You're out your chunk of money and
- 9:44Speaker 1: you have a closet full of crap. That's how it works.
- 9:47Speaker 1: So I don't know that he's responded. So Vulture said, goodbye.
- 9:53Speaker 1: We don't want to do this article, probably because they
- 9:55Speaker 1: had an arrangement with him. And that's not the article
- 9:58Speaker 1: they wanted. And he's an elite So who knows what's
- 10:00Speaker 1: going on between him, Vulture, the people that run Vulture,
- 10:03Speaker 1: his PR people, Oprah, whoever, who knows? So this girl
- 10:10Speaker 1: went to The Guardian and I think it's really interesting.
- 10:14Speaker 1: Other people that love him, that have met him, he
- 10:16Speaker 1: was nice to me and everything and I don't care
- 10:19Speaker 1: because he helps and inspires people so who cares that
- 10:22Speaker 1: he lied? And I do care. I do care. I
- 10:26Speaker 1: think if you became famous based on a story that
- 10:31Speaker 1: isn't true and I don't care what anyone says about dates,
- 10:34Speaker 1: mixing up dates. You know... what you were doing at
- 10:38Speaker 1: 19 versus what you were doing at 21. You know
- 10:41Speaker 1: that you were either a junior in college or you
- 10:44Speaker 1: were a monk. You know. So you don't go do
- 10:47Speaker 1: a bunch of different interviews and screw up the age
- 10:50Speaker 1: of when you were doing things. To me, that is
- 10:53Speaker 1: highly suspect. I'm sure you won't ask me to be
- 10:56Speaker 1: guest on his show, and I don't care to have
- 10:58Speaker 1: him have them on mine. I thought it was juicy.
- 11:00Speaker 1: I suggest you read it and tell me what you think. Also,
- 11:04Speaker 1: New asshole alert.
- 11:06Speaker 3: Wow.
- 11:06Speaker 1: This also came out yesterday. Jonathan Van Ness. He is beloved.
- 11:14Speaker 1: He is on the new Queer Eye for the Straight Guy.
- 11:17Speaker 1: I think they're entering like their sixth or seventh season.
- 11:20Speaker 1: This is where I think he's the hairstylist. There's someone
- 11:24Speaker 1: who does the food. There's someone who does the decorating,
- 11:27Speaker 1: the interior design. Bobby Burke has left the show. And
- 11:31Speaker 1: a lot of people thought he should. They were like,
- 11:33Speaker 1: my God, he has to redo an entire house. And
- 11:35Speaker 1: all Jonathan has to do is give someone a trim. Anyway,
- 11:39Speaker 1: they come in, they take a straight guy and they
- 11:41Speaker 1: change his life. But I think the new season was,
- 11:43Speaker 1: it wasn't about just straight people. They just kind of
- 11:45Speaker 1: helped anybody that needed a little help in styling their life.
- 11:48Speaker 1: So an article came out, said he is a monster.
- 11:50Speaker 1: He's a nightmare by seven people that have worked with him.
- 11:55Speaker 5: Seven.
- 11:56Speaker 1: So to me, that says that's not just one disgruntled person.
- 12:01Speaker 1: one person that, you know, waited on you when you were,
- 12:03Speaker 1: you know, in a bad mood. This is, they're saying
- 12:07Speaker 1: that at least once a day he had to scream
- 12:10Speaker 1: at somebody and he was just absolutely awful to work with.
- 12:13Speaker 1: So it's many people saying it. I have never met him.
- 12:19Speaker 1: I haven't really even watched the new version of Queer
- 12:23Speaker 1: Eye that much. So I can say that. So I
- 12:24Speaker 1: get it that you like it. But he has been
- 12:27Speaker 1: very controversial. I just realized he does not go by
- 12:30Speaker 1: he anymore.
- 12:31Speaker 3: Okay.
- 12:32Speaker 1: He goes by they, them. So in the article, they
- 12:36Speaker 1: did use the correct pronouns. So I just remembered that.
- 12:39Speaker 1: So it's they are a monster. Okay. There you go.
- 12:46Speaker 1: So that is what people are saying. Jonathan might just
- 12:51Speaker 1: ignore it all. and let the fans love the way
- 12:56Speaker 1: they've always loved Jonathan. But I did, here's Jonathan, and
- 13:03Speaker 1: you can see that Jonathan has long hair and a
- 13:08Speaker 1: beard and a mustache. And I remembered, oh my God,
- 13:13Speaker 1: I did an impression of him that I remember got
- 13:16Speaker 1: like no love, it got no views, and I couldn't
- 13:18Speaker 1: understand why. And I found it and it's from April 5th, 2019.
- 13:24Speaker 1: I put it on my Facebook and my YouTube, whatever.
- 13:26Speaker 1: And I did this really funny sketch where I came
- 13:30Speaker 1: in and I made over Peter as Jonathan. I, I
- 13:35Speaker 1: just watched it. It was all improv. I have to
- 13:37Speaker 1: say like fricking hilarious and I'll repost it on my
- 13:41Speaker 1: Instagram and my TikTok. So you'll be able to go
- 13:43Speaker 1: there and see it right now. But, um, Much like
- 13:47Speaker 1: many people in my last eight and a half years
- 13:49Speaker 1: of having Jesus Scoop, I reached out to Jonathan. I
- 13:51Speaker 1: sent it to him. I tagged him thinking, won't Jonathan
- 13:56Speaker 1: love it? Maybe he never saw it.
- 13:57Speaker 4: I don't know.
- 13:58Speaker 1: But there was a time we were both at the
- 13:59Speaker 1: same podcast network. I tried to be on his show.
- 14:03Speaker 1: When I see that there's seven people and then three
- 14:05Speaker 1: others that also said something about him, that he's an asshole,
- 14:08Speaker 1: that he was hard to work with. No, I'm not
- 14:11Speaker 1: going to go, you know what? I'm not going to
- 14:13Speaker 1: cover that story because he was such a delight to me.
- 14:15Speaker 1: Because he wasn't a delight and I am always a
- 14:18Speaker 1: fucking constant delight. So there you go. Or I'm a
- 14:21Speaker 1: constant fucking delight. Okay. This has been going on for
- 14:25Speaker 1: a couple weeks now. Kate Middleton had abdominal surgery, which
- 14:31Speaker 1: to me sounds pretty gnarly. There is... So much speculation
- 14:37Speaker 1: about why she hasn't been seen. And just today they said,
- 14:44Speaker 1: page six says, where in the world is the Princess
- 14:46Speaker 1: of Wales? The British Army's website quietly removed Kate Middleton's
- 14:50Speaker 1: name from the list of attendees for the Colonel's Review Tuesday.
- 14:56Speaker 1: So there was a photo of her driving in the
- 14:58Speaker 1: passenger seat of a car. Some people are like, that's
- 15:01Speaker 1: not her. That is a lookalike. There was a kind
- 15:07Speaker 1: of a funny conspiracy thing saying we think she got
- 15:10Speaker 1: a BBL, a Brazilian butt lift, and it takes a
- 15:14Speaker 1: long time to recover from that. Maybe she got something
- 15:17Speaker 1: else done. What's going on? But then she's out, but
- 15:21Speaker 1: she's not out in public. Or is this person really
- 15:23Speaker 1: her in the car? Is it like she knows something about,
- 15:28Speaker 1: you know, Epstein Island? I don't know. I think what
- 15:32Speaker 1: happened is I think she has a serious medical situation
- 15:36Speaker 1: happening and she is in no position to push herself
- 15:41Speaker 1: to be out in public and act fake and delightful.
- 15:45Speaker 1: And also she's probably loving the downtime. Sometimes that's the
- 15:49Speaker 1: best part of being sick is that like you could
- 15:52Speaker 1: just lay in bed or take a little extra time,
- 15:55Speaker 1: not get in a tight outfit, not wear makeup, whatever.
- 15:59Speaker 1: And a lot of complications can happen from this type
- 16:02Speaker 1: of surgery. We don't know if her bowels are not
- 16:05Speaker 1: working right. I don't know. There could be some bigger
- 16:08Speaker 1: reason of why she is not wanting to go out
- 16:12Speaker 1: in public. Or is she milking it? which she has
- 16:17Speaker 1: every right to do, to just be like, yeah, I
- 16:19Speaker 1: don't need to go to that thing until I feel 100%,
- 16:21Speaker 1: until I feel great and look great. Or maybe she
- 16:26Speaker 1: got the abdominal surgery and while she was at it,
- 16:28Speaker 1: she was like, yeah, give me a little something else.
- 16:30Speaker 1: Give me a little boobier butt. I don't know. I
- 16:32Speaker 1: don't think so. I think she's really stunning on her own.
- 16:35Speaker 1: I think that this medical issue was a bigger deal,
- 16:38Speaker 1: or maybe they thought the surgery was going to be
- 16:41Speaker 1: an easier recovery and it's taking longer. But I love
- 16:46Speaker 1: the conspiracy theories. The car is beautiful. Where did you
- 16:51Speaker 1: end up going for it? This exclusive place that Dad
- 16:53Speaker 1: has connections with. They have more cars for more dealerships
- 16:56Speaker 1: than like anywhere else. You have to put me in touch.
- 16:58Speaker 5: What's it called?
- 16:59Speaker 1: It's Dunaidial.
- 17:01Speaker 5: Where?
- 17:03Speaker 1: Dunaidial. There's an accent on the E. Do you mean... Yes,
- 17:08Speaker 1: I got it on Dundale Cars.
- 17:09Speaker 5: Lift?
- 17:10Speaker 1: Please. Are you going past Kimmage? Oh, Kimmage.
- 17:13Speaker 3: No.
- 17:15Speaker 1: Done deal, Cars. You couldn't possibly go anywhere else.
- 17:18Speaker 5: I'm Darman, and this is What Happens Next. Each week
- 17:22Speaker 5: on the show, I sit down with extraordinary people who
- 17:25Speaker 5: have faced tremendous setbacks, and yet somehow have found a
- 17:29Speaker 5: way to turn them into their greatest strengths.
- 17:32Speaker 1: Life is one long lesson of chaos. I'm heading to
- 17:35Speaker 1: the Emmys, and I have police complaints filed against me.
- 17:38Speaker 4: When your free will was about to be taken from you,
- 17:40Speaker 4: what would you do if it was given back?
- 17:43Speaker 3: Where did that need come from, where you thought that
- 17:46Speaker 3: you had to succeed in order to feel loved?
- 17:48Speaker 1: He said, I have a work dad.
- 17:49Speaker 5: I need a home dad.
- 17:50Speaker 3: What happens next?
- 17:51Speaker 1: When I came in, he started crying.
- 17:53Speaker 3: Everybody in life encounters hardships. What defines them is not
- 17:58Speaker 3: those hard moments that they go through. It's about what
- 18:00Speaker 3: happens next.
- 18:01Speaker 4: I decided to risk it all.
- 18:03Speaker 1: I realized how valuable every day was. You're worth the work.
- 18:06Speaker 4: Listen, Dara, I'm not going to pull punches.
- 18:08Speaker 1: You can use your voice even if it's shaped.
- 18:10Speaker 5: The stories are different, but the impact is the same.
- 18:13Speaker 5: Only one question matters.
- 18:16Speaker 3: What happens next?
- 18:24Speaker 1: Now, this just popped up. This is, do you guys remember?
- 18:29Speaker 1: And you should. This is Juicy Scoop history. In 2012,
- 18:33Speaker 1: Prince Harry went to Vegas. And he met a girl
- 18:36Speaker 1: at the pool or something. And they went up and
- 18:39Speaker 1: he was wasted. And they went up to his room
- 18:41Speaker 1: and he was playing pool naked in like the fabulous suite.
- 18:47Speaker 1: And somebody with a really good camera in 2012 got
- 18:51Speaker 1: photos of him naked playing pool. And he got with
- 18:54Speaker 1: this girl. Well, this girl has really killed it in life.
- 18:58Speaker 1: She is now a dominatrix and is threatening to... give
- 19:04Speaker 1: his photos or share them on OnlyFans or something. And
- 19:07Speaker 1: it's like, girl, it was 2012. It was literally 12
- 19:12Speaker 1: years ago. And he was young and drunk. And nobody
- 19:16Speaker 1: cares that you might have boned him back then or
- 19:20Speaker 1: that he played pool naked after he was drinking in
- 19:22Speaker 1: the Vegas sun all day. Not juicy. Move the fuck along. Okay.
- 19:28Speaker 1: The Valley is coming out. This is the spinoff of Vanderpump.
- 19:33Speaker 1: And I just want to talk a little bit about
- 19:36Speaker 1: more on what we talked about on Tuesday's show. More
- 19:39Speaker 1: and more, I think my theory is right about Britney
- 19:44Speaker 1: and Jack's separation at this time. I really do think
- 19:49Speaker 1: at about being appreciated, being loved, having enough of it.
- 19:54Speaker 1: I think it is an Airbnb and not like a
- 19:57Speaker 1: year-long lease for Britney. That way she could go. She
- 20:00Speaker 1: wouldn't need furniture. You could do it for a month
- 20:03Speaker 1: or up to 28 days. You can be close to
- 20:05Speaker 1: the neighborhood. It's not really a big deal to go.
- 20:08Speaker 1: And I definitely don't think they're doing it for the show,
- 20:12Speaker 1: but I do think we will see some of the
- 20:15Speaker 1: trials and tribulations of the show. So anyway, in their
- 20:19Speaker 1: promos for the show, I was like, oh, this is
- 20:22Speaker 1: so cute. They're all wearing bright colors. They're overly dressed up.
- 20:27Speaker 1: But they're, you know, got a little kiddie pool. They
- 20:29Speaker 1: have a little driving like truck. And so it's like
- 20:32Speaker 1: all these fabulous parents who have kids but still want
- 20:35Speaker 1: to be fabulous while having kids. And I'm like, that
- 20:38Speaker 1: is so cute. That is such a cute idea. Why
- 20:40Speaker 1: does that seem so familiar to me? Well, it's the
- 20:44Speaker 1: cover of my book, which also came out in 2013,
- 20:48Speaker 1: My Inappropriate Life. And it was about me being a
- 20:52Speaker 1: mom on TV, living in the valley. And I put
- 20:57Speaker 1: together the cover and I got a cute strapless, fancy
- 21:02Speaker 1: teal dress. We shot it in front of my lawn
- 21:05Speaker 1: with my picket fence. And it's me going down a
- 21:09Speaker 1: kiddie slide into a kiddie pool with a hose. And
- 21:13Speaker 1: I put the photo side by side. Now, I am
- 21:16Speaker 1: not saying that somebody saw my thing, happened to be
- 21:21Speaker 1: reading my book from 13 years ago, My Inappropriate Life.
- 21:24Speaker 1: It was like, let's copy Heather's idea. I'm just saying,
- 21:29Speaker 1: maybe I thought of it first. Maybe I'm a genius.
- 21:32Speaker 1: I'm clearly ahead of my time. And I live in
- 21:35Speaker 1: the Valley and I am the original Valley girl, but
- 21:38Speaker 1: excited for the show. This is from my Juicy Scoop
- 21:41Speaker 1: Obsessed page on Facebook. And if you want to join that,
- 21:46Speaker 1: There's a little question because I only want people in
- 21:49Speaker 1: there that actually listen to Juicy Scoop. And you'll be
- 21:52Speaker 1: able to answer the question if you listen to Juicy
- 21:54Speaker 1: Scoop and my theme song. Okay. Someone wrote, and I
- 21:58Speaker 1: did not allow this in the group, but it says,
- 22:02Speaker 1: Lala is pregnant with Jack's baby. Let's discuss. I think
- 22:05Speaker 1: this person was joking, but I also saw is Lala
- 22:08Speaker 1: pregnant with Brock's baby, who is Sheena's husband.
- 22:11Speaker 4: Okay.
- 22:11Speaker 1: I know for a fact Lala's not pregnant with either
- 22:15Speaker 1: one of those babies. She's made it very clear. She
- 22:18Speaker 1: went the sperm downer IUI way of getting pregnant. But
- 22:24Speaker 1: I do think this is hilarious and I love the
- 22:27Speaker 1: juicy thought of it. I think that, you know, I'm
- 22:31Speaker 1: seeing a lot of people discussing in groups of like,
- 22:36Speaker 1: they're not they think it's not okay to have a
- 22:39Speaker 1: baby on your own and this and that and what
- 22:42Speaker 1: do I really think being that I'm a married mom
- 22:45Speaker 1: and I'm Catholic and blah blah blah I have always
- 22:48Speaker 1: said I think it's fine I think it's fine um
- 22:51Speaker 1: I think it was smart of Andy to do it
- 22:53Speaker 1: as a gay man I think it's um I think
- 22:55Speaker 1: it's fine for anybody that has the means to do
- 22:58Speaker 1: it and wants to do it. And this is in
- 23:00Speaker 1: their time of life. And they don't want to pass
- 23:02Speaker 1: the opportunity of being a parent because they don't have
- 23:06Speaker 1: a partner. So I have no judgment in any of it. And,
- 23:14Speaker 1: you know, what is this? For the real old Juicy Scoopers,
- 23:17Speaker 1: there was this show called Murphy Brown. And Candace Bergman
- 23:22Speaker 1: was the star of it. It was like a huge
- 23:24Speaker 1: hit sitcom. And our vice president at the time, Dan
- 23:29Speaker 1: Quayle like made a huge deal out of like this
- 23:32Speaker 1: was ruining America because this woman who was like in
- 23:34Speaker 1: her early 40s was pregnant and we didn't know who
- 23:37Speaker 1: the father is or how she got pregnant. And it
- 23:39Speaker 1: was like, how dare she? So listen, you could have
- 23:43Speaker 1: your opinion. I think 99% of people are happy for her.
- 23:47Speaker 1: We're friends. I'm happy for her. I explain why I
- 23:51Speaker 1: think it's a good idea and based on her history,
- 23:53Speaker 1: why this was a wise choice and the kind of
- 23:55Speaker 1: family that she wants to raise. and the kind of
- 23:58Speaker 1: life she wants to live as a mother. But I
- 24:01Speaker 1: also think it's interesting, and that's why it's controversial, and
- 24:04Speaker 1: that's why on last night's show, she is good about saying,
- 24:08Speaker 1: don't look at all the stuff. Because in last night's episode,
- 24:12Speaker 1: Sheena was very upset. In real time, we see that
- 24:16Speaker 1: they were in Lake Tahoe, and a fan came up,
- 24:20Speaker 1: can I get a photo with all you guys? And
- 24:22Speaker 1: the Vanderpump kids... And they're not kids anymore. But they
- 24:25Speaker 1: are all and 90% of reality stars, like I said,
- 24:28Speaker 1: are so nice taking photos with fans out in the wild.
- 24:33Speaker 1: You can absolutely approach them. And it's so shocking to
- 24:36Speaker 1: ever hear that one is not thrilled to take a
- 24:38Speaker 1: photo because they're new to fandom and they don't really
- 24:41Speaker 1: think they deserve it. And they're humble and they love it.
- 24:43Speaker 3: Okay.
- 24:44Speaker 1: Unlike somebody that's maybe been acting since they were 10
- 24:46Speaker 1: and would just like to have their dinner by themselves
- 24:48Speaker 1: and they're 50. Like don't, you know, maybe don't go
- 24:50Speaker 1: up to Julia Roberts like you would Countess Luann. So anyway,
- 24:55Speaker 1: she naturally puts her arm like this and Tom Sandoval
- 24:58Speaker 1: was next to her. And this was only four months
- 25:01Speaker 1: after the scandal had broke while they were filming with
- 25:04Speaker 1: Tom Sandoval and Raquel. So she starts to get so
- 25:07Speaker 1: much hate. And I remember seeing it on the blogs
- 25:10Speaker 1: and seeing all the hate. And you see how much
- 25:12Speaker 1: it affects her and how much it hurts her feelings.
- 25:15Speaker 1: And she's reading it and it's like, She's probably had
- 25:18Speaker 1: a couple drinks down a lot, but she's reading it.
- 25:20Speaker 1: And like, Lala's like, don't go on the, don't read
- 25:23Speaker 1: that shit. And I think it takes someone a certain
- 25:26Speaker 1: amount of time. And some people are better than others
- 25:28Speaker 1: of putting the blinders on and being like, this is
- 25:31Speaker 1: part of the deal of the show. And I am
- 25:34Speaker 1: just going to not look at this shit. And so that,
- 25:38Speaker 1: that was kind of interesting. It's like being like, I'm
- 25:40Speaker 1: going off. And I think people can go off and
- 25:43Speaker 1: they don't have to post, they don't have to comment
- 25:45Speaker 1: and they can, no one's leaving the, their Instagram if
- 25:49Speaker 1: they are not posting every day. So I think that's
- 25:50Speaker 1: something like everybody in this business could kind of like
- 25:53Speaker 1: learn from or even regular people like just take a
- 25:55Speaker 1: break from it. You don't have to say I'm taking
- 25:57Speaker 1: a break from it. Just put it away. Like just
- 25:59Speaker 1: don't look at it for a few days and like
- 26:02Speaker 1: how great your life could be. Speaking of that, so
- 26:05Speaker 1: Teresa went on a girl's trip and Teresa of New
- 26:09Speaker 1: Jersey and wasn't wearing her ring.
- 26:11Speaker 4: And a.
- 26:13Speaker 1: Oh, my God, she and Louie aren't together and they're
- 26:16Speaker 1: breaking up. And so she said, hey, thanks for caring
- 26:18Speaker 1: so much about me. She had a great attitude. She's like,
- 26:21Speaker 1: I guess I'm still relevant if you still really care
- 26:23Speaker 1: that much about me. But and I should be flattered
- 26:27Speaker 1: by it. Also, because I because Louie and I do
- 26:30Speaker 1: so much together. Yeah, I can see why people are like,
- 26:32Speaker 1: why aren't you together? But he had his trip. I
- 26:34Speaker 1: had mine. And I wasn't wearing my ring. And a
- 26:37Speaker 1: lot of people are like, I don't wear jewelry on
- 26:38Speaker 1: the beach. I'm too scared of losing it. I put
- 26:41Speaker 1: it in the safe or I want to go swim
- 26:42Speaker 1: in the ocean. I don't want my ring falling off.
- 26:45Speaker 1: So I thought, you know, and she goes, but I
- 26:48Speaker 1: don't care. I've been in this business for 15 years.
- 26:50Speaker 1: I don't care what people say. But Louis, it does
- 26:54Speaker 1: affect him. He does get defensive. He does want to
- 26:57Speaker 1: defend himself. He does want to correct the things that
- 26:59Speaker 1: are being said about him that are not true. And
- 27:02Speaker 1: that's just like he's just got to catch up as
- 27:05Speaker 1: far as like not caring. But it affects everybody differently.
- 27:08Speaker 1: And I think it's so interesting.
- 27:09Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 27:11Speaker 1: Oh, a couple more things about the lawsuit that I
- 27:14Speaker 1: may have not clarified of Raquel suing Tom and Ariana.
- 27:22Speaker 1: So here are some of the quotes, which I thought
- 27:26Speaker 1: was really interesting from the lawsuit. Quote, due to a
- 27:29Speaker 1: narrative deliberately fomented by Bravo Evolution and the cast, Raquel
- 27:34Speaker 1: became an object of public scorn and ridicule. Okay, that's fair.
- 27:38Speaker 1: As a result, she suffered in silence as Bravo and
- 27:41Speaker 1: Evolution watched viewership explode and the rest of the cast
- 27:45Speaker 1: enjoyed unseen levels of public recognition and professional opportunity. Quote,
- 27:52Speaker 1: the idea that human beings are expected to sacrifice their
- 27:55Speaker 1: mental and emotional health in service of Bravo's rating is obscene.
- 27:59Speaker 1: That's what her attorney said. The lawsuit is squarely about
- 28:03Speaker 1: illegal behavior and those who traffic in it and enable it.
- 28:06Speaker 1: Mark Garagos, her other lawyer. Raquel has apologized for her
- 28:10Speaker 1: part of the affair. That's not a crime. Tom and
- 28:13Speaker 1: Ariana are alleged here to have engaged in criminal acts.
- 28:17Speaker 1: Mark Garagos. OK, you can say whatever you want. I
- 28:20Speaker 1: still don't know what they're suing for and what actual
- 28:24Speaker 1: evidence they have that they really did share that video
- 28:30Speaker 1: that was their FaceTime together that was on Tom's phone.
- 28:34Speaker 1: I felt like I was being treated like a prisoner
- 28:36Speaker 1: in my own mind. And I know what I what
- 28:39Speaker 1: I did was wrong is what Raquel said. But I
- 28:42Speaker 1: also think it's very interesting that they said this. Raquel
- 28:47Speaker 1: accuses Bravo and Evolution Media of contributing to her suffering
- 28:51Speaker 1: by promoting the scandal for ratings. Her lawyers emphasize the
- 28:57Speaker 1: mental health aspect of the case and condemn the use
- 29:00Speaker 1: of NDAs by NBC and Bravo. So one thing I
- 29:04Speaker 1: think is really interesting is she's saying, I wasn't able
- 29:08Speaker 1: to say what I wanted to say, how I wanted
- 29:10Speaker 1: to say it, everything, because of an NDA that I
- 29:14Speaker 1: signed with Bravo. And I don't really understand that NDA
- 29:19Speaker 1: situation either. I don't know what, in fact, they signed.
- 29:22Speaker 1: I know that there's been times when I've scheduled Bravo
- 29:26Speaker 1: personalities to come on the show. They've said it's fine.
- 29:29Speaker 1: It's all good. I always say I won't spoil anything
- 29:31Speaker 1: that's coming up. But then they'll cancel because they'll say,
- 29:36Speaker 1: Bravo doesn't want us doing interviews right now. Bravo, like
- 29:39Speaker 1: something will happen in their reality world that's so earth shattering.
- 29:44Speaker 1: And I'm all excited because they're coming tomorrow. And then
- 29:47Speaker 1: they're like, we can't do it. And I'm always bummed,
- 29:50Speaker 1: but that's why I could do a show alone. Not
- 29:52Speaker 1: everyone can. But I'm always bummed because I was planning
- 29:55Speaker 1: on it, whatever. And I thought, oh my God, this timing.
- 29:57Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, God loves me. This is so great
- 29:59Speaker 1: that I've got to. But then Bravo's like, no, we're
- 30:02Speaker 1: afraid you're going to spoil something. You're going to say something.
- 30:05Speaker 1: And could they come on my show anyway and probably
- 30:08Speaker 1: not get fired or fined? But that is a threat
- 30:11Speaker 1: that they have. And nobody wants to be in the
- 30:14Speaker 1: bad light with Bravo. Other stars, the bigger stars they are,
- 30:19Speaker 1: the less they care, the more they don't ask permission.
- 30:22Speaker 1: And then there's people that it's just their nature to
- 30:24Speaker 1: ask permission. It's their nature to always comply. But now also,
- 30:29Speaker 1: everybody has their own podcast and their own Amazon Lives
- 30:33Speaker 1: where they can drop major scoop or do an Instagram
- 30:36Speaker 1: Live or whatever. And they kind of want to save
- 30:39Speaker 1: it for themselves or go do their own live show
- 30:41Speaker 1: and save it for themselves. So I think it's going
- 30:43Speaker 1: to get very complicated. And I think it's like the
- 30:47Speaker 1: whole thing has changed so much. And I think it's
- 30:50Speaker 1: really changed since BravoCon. And as much as we all
- 30:53Speaker 1: love BravoCon, we took these people that were reality stars that,
- 30:59Speaker 1: you know, were occasionally being recognized at maybe a restaurant,
- 31:03Speaker 1: but it was still like a small kind of cult
- 31:05Speaker 1: following of who's watching Vanderpump. I mean, think about like
- 31:07Speaker 1: Vanderpump like eight, nine years ago. They're still in their apartments.
- 31:11Speaker 1: They're still actually working at the restaurant. And they were
- 31:13Speaker 1: in all these countries, but social media hadn't caught up.
- 31:16Speaker 1: BravoCon hadn't caught up. Now, jump to today, these people
- 31:20Speaker 1: get on shows. And they go to BravoCon and they
- 31:24Speaker 1: experience being a rock star. Who doesn't want to be
- 31:27Speaker 1: a rock star? Except for maybe Jenna Lyons, who didn't
- 31:31Speaker 1: go to BravoCon. I don't know if she's going to
- 31:33Speaker 1: be coming back. She made it sound like maybe that
- 31:35Speaker 1: just wouldn't be something comfortable for her. But every single
- 31:38Speaker 1: other person practically that was currently on a cast that
- 31:41Speaker 1: was asked when. And they loved it. I mean, I
- 31:45Speaker 1: love it. I love being approached, you know, and all
- 31:48Speaker 1: that stuff. But it took me 30 years to get there.
- 31:51Speaker 1: So they get there right away and they love it
- 31:53Speaker 1: and they want more of it. And I think that
- 31:56Speaker 1: is what changed before BravoCon. They would just really be
- 32:00Speaker 1: filming their home by these people and maybe occasionally they'd
- 32:04Speaker 1: go out to dinner and someone would approach them. Even
- 32:07Speaker 1: now they could go out to dinner and maybe they
- 32:09Speaker 1: get approached or not. But you go to BravoCon and
- 32:10Speaker 1: you have thousands of fans freaking out, like literally like
- 32:16Speaker 1: you're a Beatle, like you are Taylor Swift. And, and
- 32:21Speaker 1: I just think it's like a monster that has to
- 32:22Speaker 1: be fed and some people can handle it better than others.
- 32:26Speaker 1: But I think that's all fascinating. And that's where I'm
- 32:29Speaker 1: confused with the NDA. Like, did she want to speak
- 32:32Speaker 1: in that moment? Or was she, I think that she
- 32:35Speaker 1: believed the network when thinking, okay, I'll come back and
- 32:41Speaker 1: I'll have my time to share. Like maybe they said, Raquel,
- 32:45Speaker 1: let everyone calm down. You're going to come back. You're
- 32:47Speaker 1: going to be able to share your peace. And then
- 32:50Speaker 1: when she was in her mental health retreat and seeing
- 32:55Speaker 1: how everybody was still ripping on her and everything and
- 32:58Speaker 1: making their money and everything because it was their story too,
- 33:02Speaker 1: which is fine. then when they wouldn't pay her what
- 33:05Speaker 1: she wanted and she bailed and then she realized like,
- 33:07Speaker 1: fuck this, I think I have a case. But I
- 33:11Speaker 1: don't know. I've heard inside that there are a couple
- 33:15Speaker 1: more bombs coming. I don't know if those bombs are
- 33:18Speaker 1: other lawsuits from different people. I don't know if it's
- 33:20Speaker 1: other evidence on different shows in which Bravo and Andy
- 33:26Speaker 1: or executives will have to speak to. But it is
- 33:31Speaker 1: really interesting and I feel like the you know, the
- 33:34Speaker 1: canvas keeps changing as we watch. But there you go.
- 33:37Speaker 1: But also on the show, also on the show, there
- 33:40Speaker 1: was a good moment on this boat in Lake Tahoe
- 33:42Speaker 1: between Tom Sandoval and Lala where, you know, she basically
- 33:47Speaker 1: says to him, right the day that the scandal broke,
- 33:52Speaker 1: that we found out you were having an affair for
- 33:54Speaker 1: seven months with Raquel, you went and did an interview
- 33:57Speaker 1: saying that, like, I don't share my life. that I'm
- 34:01Speaker 1: fake or whatever, or I'm deceptive, and here you are
- 34:04Speaker 1: having this affair for seven months. Just say you're sorry.
- 34:07Speaker 1: And they really kind of get into it. And so
- 34:11Speaker 1: it's keeping my interest. Meanwhile, Tom Schwartz did a TikTok
- 34:19Speaker 1: video in Vegas with a 24-year-old. People found out who
- 34:22Speaker 1: she was. She's like a pretty auburn-haired girl. And all
- 34:25Speaker 1: I just thought when I saw the TikTok video, I'm like,
- 34:27Speaker 1: just imagine that like you're out. You have this cute girl.
- 34:30Speaker 1: You're like, let's go to Vegas, do something fun. And
- 34:32Speaker 1: then she's like, hold on, wait. There is this really
- 34:35Speaker 1: fun trend I want to do. And we have to
- 34:38Speaker 1: do this dance and we have to mouth these words.
- 34:41Speaker 1: And how many times it took to do it. And
- 34:43Speaker 1: he's like, can we just fucking get some cocktails and bone? Like,
- 34:46Speaker 1: why am I doing this? But he did it. And
- 34:48Speaker 1: he's a pretty good sport. And so he's over 40.
- 34:52Speaker 1: She's 24. And. listen, that is the only way now
- 34:58Speaker 1: that you're getting on Vanderpump rules is to date someone.
- 35:02Speaker 1: That's how Raquel got on. That's how Allie got on.
- 35:05Speaker 1: They both dated James. Um, that's how Randall got on
- 35:09Speaker 1: when he was with Lala. That is how Brock is on.
- 35:12Speaker 1: Cause he married Sheena. Um, that's how you get on.
- 35:19Speaker 1: You're not going to get on like you did five
- 35:21Speaker 1: years ago where you actually go and apply to be
- 35:24Speaker 1: a waiter at TomTom or whatever. It's not happening because
- 35:27Speaker 1: they're not working at these restaurants, so they're never going
- 35:29Speaker 1: to really take on somebody. And the two seasons that
- 35:33Speaker 1: they did that were not interesting and felt very forced
- 35:37Speaker 1: and inauthentic. So if it works out, Welcome to Verna
- 35:42Speaker 1: Pump Rules, cute redhead. Okay, let's talk about the latest
- 35:45Speaker 1: with Bianca and Kanye. You know, he had her wearing
- 35:49Speaker 1: naked clothes, vagina completely see-through out, and the dad has spoken.
- 35:57Speaker 1: Her dad, Bianca Sensori's dad, wants to confront Kanye West
- 36:02Speaker 1: over model's trashy nudity. That isn't love. His name is Leo,
- 36:07Speaker 1: and he wants proper sit-down with Kanye.
- 36:09Speaker 4: Okay.
- 36:10Speaker 1: This is according to Page Six. He wants to ask
- 36:12Speaker 1: Kanye what he would do if his daughter North or
- 36:14Speaker 1: Chicago was seen in public half naked. And he wants
- 36:18Speaker 1: to just sit Kanye down and let him know that
- 36:19Speaker 1: he is hurting the family by turning his beloved daughter
- 36:22Speaker 1: into a trashy looking marketable commodity. This is a source
- 36:25Speaker 1: close to Bianca said. No man should ever encourage a
- 36:27Speaker 1: woman that loves to walk out in public and present
- 36:29Speaker 1: herself like this. This isn't love. That is control. So
- 36:33Speaker 1: after that story came out, she was seen at some
- 36:37Speaker 1: place wearing normal, somewhat normal clothes. Like she was wearing
- 36:41Speaker 1: the leggings and all that or the tights, but it
- 36:44Speaker 1: was not full see-through vag. Now, I told you guys
- 36:49Speaker 1: a while ago that I had a vision. I put
- 36:52Speaker 1: it out into the universe and I want to apologize.
- 36:55Speaker 1: And I said, full vagina, vagina cleavage, which is the
- 37:01Speaker 1: side of your, and people go, Heather, it's not the vagina, whatever,
- 37:05Speaker 1: the part of your crotch, okay? And the side where
- 37:09Speaker 1: that meets your thigh, which is what I like to
- 37:12Speaker 1: call vagina cleavage. I'm like, that is going to be
- 37:15Speaker 1: a new hot thing for fashion. But also I think
- 37:19Speaker 1: full vag out will be something. So when the Bianca
- 37:22Speaker 1: was seen full vag out see-through, everyone's seen for like
- 37:26Speaker 1: two years, everybody's been wearing basically a bikini with like
- 37:30Speaker 1: a see-through cover up over it. But they're wearing that
- 37:33Speaker 1: on the red carpet. I'm not a fan. I don't
- 37:36Speaker 1: think it's great. I just think you could do better.
- 37:39Speaker 1: And sometimes people, it's not even like that flattering, but whatever.
- 37:42Speaker 1: At least you're wearing, covering up your, you know, crotch.
- 37:47Speaker 1: Maybe Kanye really is that influential because that is happening.
- 37:50Speaker 1: And also there's these jeans out right now that this
- 37:55Speaker 1: is called pee stain jeans. It's a real thing. Okay.
- 37:58Speaker 1: And it's jeans that look like you peed in. They're
- 38:02Speaker 1: female jeans to purchase. Also, this is, I don't know
- 38:08Speaker 1: who this actress is, but she is wearing out sheer
- 38:12Speaker 1: nylons and a bodysuit with what I said, the crotch
- 38:17Speaker 1: meeting the thigh to be exposed like you would. Like
- 38:21Speaker 1: last year was under boob. I like bottom tick cleavage.
- 38:26Speaker 1: A couple of years ago, it was side cleavage. It
- 38:29Speaker 1: is now this, okay? And then this brand called Forward, FWRD,
- 38:35Speaker 1: that I have bought stuff from. This is a real thing.
- 38:40Speaker 1: It's a full bodysuit, but it's a naked body underneath,
- 38:45Speaker 1: complete with the crotch, okay? So it's nipples, a belly button.
- 38:50Speaker 1: You're supposed to wear that out. And then they have
- 38:53Speaker 1: other ones where it's just a crop top with full nipples.
- 38:56Speaker 1: So you're not showing anything because you're wearing the thing.
- 39:01Speaker 1: you know, and then the skims have the nipples bra,
- 39:04Speaker 1: which I think is kind of genius, but this is like,
- 39:06Speaker 1: you're wearing a bikini that has nipples. So like, if
- 39:09Speaker 1: you look close, I mean, you're going to think someone
- 39:12Speaker 1: is whatever has it, um, their nips out. It's just,
- 39:17Speaker 1: I just want to apologize because I put it out
- 39:18Speaker 1: there in universe universe and now it's fashion and now
- 39:21Speaker 1: we have to see it. And now we have to
- 39:23Speaker 1: act like, this is normal. And I don't agree with it. Okay.
- 39:29Speaker 1: Kyle and Morgan. Kyle was at the front row for
- 39:34Speaker 1: Morgan Wade's performance and filming the gig. But also Marisa
- 39:39Speaker 1: was there as well. So she was filming it, but
- 39:42Speaker 1: Marisa was there. I mean, we have talked ad nauseum
- 39:46Speaker 1: about this marriage thing. We get to see more about
- 39:49Speaker 1: it on The Reunion. And of course, we're going to
- 39:52Speaker 1: see a lot more on his show about buying Beverly Hills.
- 39:58Speaker 1: But in an upcoming episode of The Reunion, he, of course,
- 40:03Speaker 1: Annie asked, can you see yourself with a woman romantically?
- 40:06Speaker 1: And she was like, yeah. I don't know if we're
- 40:10Speaker 1: waiting for the people cover of them wearing jeans with
- 40:14Speaker 1: no socks and wrapped around wearing their Kimo Sabe hats
- 40:18Speaker 1: and holding the guitar and, you know, snapshots of them laughing.
- 40:24Speaker 4: I don't know.
- 40:24Speaker 1: I don't care. But I do appreciate whether this was
- 40:28Speaker 1: milked out, whether she made a lemonade out of lemons
- 40:32Speaker 1: of a marriage falling apart or her awakening or really
- 40:35Speaker 1: falling in love with Morgan or really not. I don't know.
- 40:38Speaker 1: It gave me something to talk about. And I find
- 40:40Speaker 1: it fascinating. And I appreciate that they both shared it.
- 40:44Speaker 1: And got TV shows out of it. Okay. But she
- 40:47Speaker 1: did get another tattoo, Kyle. And it is of a
- 40:51Speaker 1: little cowboy hat. And it was from the tattoo artist's Instagram.
- 40:58Speaker 1: Some sleuth follows that tattoo artist and saw that it
- 41:01Speaker 1: was Kyle who got another tattoo. And the tattoo artist is,
- 41:06Speaker 1: are you youthful?
- 41:09Speaker 4: Okay.
- 41:10Speaker 1: It's a cowboy hat.
- 41:10Speaker 4: I don't know.
- 41:11Speaker 1: She's getting into it. It's a fashionable thing. You know,
- 41:14Speaker 1: it's let her have her tats. Okay. On FX and Hulu,
- 41:19Speaker 1: is the show Feud Capote versus the Swans? I think
- 41:23Speaker 1: it is so good. I'm actually kind of surprised it
- 41:25Speaker 1: has not gotten more buzz. I think maybe for younger people,
- 41:30Speaker 1: they can't really get into how annoying Truman Capote is.
- 41:33Speaker 1: But the guy imitating him is like so perfect. But
- 41:37Speaker 1: he's like, oh. hmm, you're past your prime, darling. And
- 41:43Speaker 1: he's like this alcoholic guy who was huge. He wrote
- 41:47Speaker 1: Breakfast at Tiffany's, In Cold Blood. He's an amazing writer.
- 41:51Speaker 1: And in the 60s and the 70s, he was just
- 41:54Speaker 1: the toast of New York. And this was a time
- 41:58Speaker 1: where people knew you were gay, but you couldn't bring
- 42:03Speaker 1: your boyfriend to something or anything. But it was New York.
- 42:06Speaker 1: So He was the toast of the town and he
- 42:09Speaker 1: had a group of fabulous women that became his friends.
- 42:13Speaker 1: And he acted like each one was his special friend,
- 42:16Speaker 1: but the women themselves were friends. And he'd have like
- 42:18Speaker 1: black and white ball. This is all really happening. And
- 42:21Speaker 1: it was it's so it's very juicy. It's based on
- 42:24Speaker 1: this book. But Lee Radswell, who is Carol Radswell, mother-in-law
- 42:31Speaker 1: from Real Housewives of New York, and also Jackie Kenny
- 42:34Speaker 1: Onassis' sister. She's played by Calista Flockhart and she's in it.
- 42:40Speaker 1: And that's very juicy because I'll tell you why it's
- 42:44Speaker 1: so interesting and applying it to today. So Truman Capote
- 42:47Speaker 1: did not have a podcast, but he was a writer
- 42:50Speaker 1: and he'd written all the, like I said, these great
- 42:52Speaker 1: scripts that became movies. But as he got alcoholic and
- 42:56Speaker 1: pill popper and just not with it, he gets a
- 43:00Speaker 1: little desperate for material. And he decides to share all
- 43:06Speaker 1: the juicy scoop that these female friends that are high
- 43:10Speaker 1: society women that, yes, they're on the society pages, but
- 43:14Speaker 1: they're not real housewives because housewives did not exist. So
- 43:19Speaker 1: nobody knows, you know, what's going on in their bedroom
- 43:22Speaker 1: or their marriages or if they're having an affairs or
- 43:24Speaker 1: their husband's having an affair or whatever their crazy stories
- 43:26Speaker 1: that they share. They share it with him, their gay
- 43:29Speaker 1: best friend. And the husbands are like, oh, go be
- 43:32Speaker 1: with your gay best friend. We know you're not fucking
- 43:35Speaker 1: Truman Capote. Anyway, he goes and he spills all the
- 43:40Speaker 1: juicy scoop and he like barely changes who they are.
- 43:43Speaker 1: So everyone knows that this one is Babe and this
- 43:47Speaker 1: one is Slim and this one is Lee Raswell. And like,
- 43:51Speaker 1: so there you go. And they turn on him and
- 43:54Speaker 1: then he becomes the victim. And it is For all
- 43:58Speaker 1: of that, I really love. Some episodes are a little
- 44:00Speaker 1: slower than others. Some are juicier than others. I can't
- 44:04Speaker 1: get enough of it. But there's like six or seven out.
- 44:08Speaker 1: I don't know how many are left. I think I'm
- 44:10Speaker 1: going to get the audio book because they kind of
- 44:13Speaker 1: go through each woman. And I'm fascinated by that time.
- 44:16Speaker 1: I wish I could speak to my Aunt Claire who
- 44:20Speaker 1: lived that life. She's in heaven, but she was high
- 44:23Speaker 1: society in New York. And it would be so juicy
- 44:27Speaker 1: to hear about it. And, um, also like if you
- 44:31Speaker 1: have like an older woman in your life that kind
- 44:33Speaker 1: of live this life at all, that's still on earth,
- 44:35Speaker 1: you should absolutely like watch it with them and like pause.
- 44:37Speaker 1: Cause I wish I would have done that with bad men,
- 44:39Speaker 1: with my parents. I wasn't watching it. They were watching it.
- 44:42Speaker 1: And I was like, what, what is this show on?
- 44:44Speaker 1: And then I watched it after they both passed. I
- 44:46Speaker 1: was like, oh my God, they live this life. They
- 44:47Speaker 1: were in advertising. This was during their era. I wish
- 44:50Speaker 1: I would have like, you know, ask them everything as
- 44:52Speaker 1: it was happening, but it's, um, It's really good. And
- 44:57Speaker 1: then how like they just, he gets jealous of them
- 45:00Speaker 1: and resentful and they miss his company, but they can't
- 45:04Speaker 1: trust him anymore. And then he realizes like, well, my
- 45:08Speaker 1: new life is just being on talk shows. Like now
- 45:11Speaker 1: I'm just a personality. I'm not even a writer anymore.
- 45:13Speaker 1: Which is interesting because that's happening to today. There's a
- 45:16Speaker 1: lot of actors and writers and fabulous people that are
- 45:19Speaker 1: now just like, I'm just going to be a personality.
- 45:21Speaker 1: I'm just going to be a podcaster. I'm just going
- 45:23Speaker 1: to be on a reality show. I used to be
- 45:24Speaker 1: an actor, but fuck it. This is easier and more fun.
- 45:27Speaker 1: And I got to go where the money is. And
- 45:28Speaker 1: so- He's like doing these talk shows and he's like
- 45:31Speaker 1: spilling– he's like having like hot moments where he's spilling
- 45:35Speaker 1: the juicy scoop about these women. And one of the
- 45:38Speaker 1: things he spills is about Lee talking about how she
- 45:43Speaker 1: was pissed at her sister Jackie Onassis and he makes
- 45:46Speaker 1: fun of Jackie Onassis looking like not great or something.
- 45:50Speaker 1: And then they get in a fight about it. I
- 45:52Speaker 1: want you guys to watch it. But all of it
- 45:55Speaker 1: is just like really so fascinating. And I want to
- 45:59Speaker 1: get Carol back on Juicy Scoop to see what she recalls.
- 46:04Speaker 1: And she's very, very fond of her mother-in-law. And I
- 46:09Speaker 1: think you know, had a wonderful relationship with her. So it's,
- 46:12Speaker 1: it must be very interesting when you see a show
- 46:15Speaker 1: about somebody that you intimately knew who's not on earth anymore.
- 46:18Speaker 1: And you're like, well, that's not true. Or that wasn't
- 46:20Speaker 1: portrayed that way. Or, well, that part is, but that isn't,
- 46:24Speaker 1: I think it must be like so fascinating to watch
- 46:27Speaker 1: like your family, you know, on TV. Oh, and then this,
- 46:31Speaker 1: this was also in people. It said Lee Radziwill was
- 46:34Speaker 1: obsessively jealous of her sister, Jackie Kennedy, says author of
- 46:37Speaker 1: the book that inspired Feud.
- 46:40Speaker 4: I don't know.
- 46:41Speaker 1: You know, I think sisters can be jealous and still
- 46:43Speaker 1: love each other. I think that's one of those two
- 46:45Speaker 1: things can be true at the same time. And sometimes
- 46:48Speaker 1: maybe they're happy for them and maybe sometimes they aren't.
- 46:51Speaker 1: And I think she probably had moments where she was
- 46:53Speaker 1: pissed or annoyed and vented to Truman, just like Kathy
- 46:59Speaker 1: Hilton was pissed and annoyed and probably vented to Lisa
- 47:02Speaker 1: Rinna about things that bothered her about Kyle and the
- 47:06Speaker 1: show and the thing. And she just had a venting
- 47:08Speaker 1: moment and thought that the venting would stay there. And
- 47:12Speaker 1: that's why she wrote Lisa Rinna and was like, you know,
- 47:16Speaker 1: no bueno, don't share what happened. And you know, Lisa
- 47:20Speaker 1: Rinna decided to share it. And I actually think that
- 47:23Speaker 1: is what turned the audience against Lisa Rinna because it
- 47:26Speaker 1: wasn't filmed, it wasn't recorded. And I believe that she
- 47:30Speaker 1: had that venting session. I believe that it wasn't flattering
- 47:33Speaker 1: and thank God it wasn't filmed for Kathy Hilton. But
- 47:36Speaker 1: I also think, can't you do that with a friend?
- 47:39Speaker 1: And if your friend is like acting like they're there
- 47:41Speaker 1: for you, can't you be able to trust that they
- 47:43Speaker 1: won't repeat it? Whether, and especially not on a TV show.
- 47:47Speaker 1: So I think that is what kind of turn people
- 47:49Speaker 1: against Lisa Rinna. But Lisa Rinna is having her best life.
- 47:52Speaker 1: She and her daughter are looking like the Addams Family
- 47:55Speaker 1: at a Paris fashion show. I mean, the Paris fashion
- 47:59Speaker 1: shows are like fucking terrifying. Everyone looks like they crawled
- 48:03Speaker 1: out from, you know, like remember that movie where like
- 48:07Speaker 1: the girl where you're not supposed to watch the VHS
- 48:10Speaker 1: tape and the girl like crawls out from the TV
- 48:12Speaker 1: and she's like, like that's what everybody's looking like at
- 48:15Speaker 1: these fashion shows. It is, they're wearing their like Remember Slenderman,
- 48:20Speaker 1: that weird thing? People are wearing Slenderman's blazers out. The
- 48:26Speaker 1: models are hideous. They're like... Everyone just looks awful. So,
- 48:32Speaker 1: I mean, sure, you want to invite me? Yeah, I'd
- 48:34Speaker 1: like to go. Who the fuck wouldn't? But, like, I'm
- 48:36Speaker 1: not– if I ever invite you to another fashion show,
- 48:38Speaker 1: I've only invited one Gucci, and I looked super cute.
- 48:42Speaker 1: I will only look cute. I'm not going to wear
- 48:44Speaker 1: your ugly, weird outfit. I'm not going to have a
- 48:47Speaker 1: price tag hanging from it because that's the theme of
- 48:51Speaker 1: the fashion show. Like, just ew. But yeah, I think
- 48:54Speaker 1: there's probably times that like, yeah, come on, you're both
- 48:58Speaker 1: looking for men and your sister marries the president of
- 49:00Speaker 1: the United States. And then the other part of it
- 49:03Speaker 1: is that she was dating Onassis first. Lee was divorced
- 49:07Speaker 1: and she was dating Onassis and then Onassis met Jackie.
- 49:09Speaker 1: And like in this book, Jackie and Lee or Lee
- 49:12Speaker 1: and Jackie, there is a story and who knows if
- 49:16Speaker 1: it's true that basically Jackie was like, I need this.
- 49:20Speaker 1: more than you. I need to marry someone that can
- 49:22Speaker 1: protect my children because the Kennedys are cheap with me.
- 49:26Speaker 1: I don't have Secret Service anymore, but we're being hounded,
- 49:30Speaker 1: myself and my two children, Caroline and John-John. by the
- 49:33Speaker 1: press all the time. And this way I could be
- 49:35Speaker 1: with this rich old man. And there's stories that she
- 49:38Speaker 1: let him like have a girlfriend, Onassis Jackie, where she
- 49:41Speaker 1: just like went shopping and lived her life being rich.
- 49:46Speaker 1: And Lee was like, what the fuck? But then Lee
- 49:47Speaker 1: found somebody else. It just like, I can see it.
- 49:50Speaker 1: I think it's so fascinating. And that's the show I've
- 49:53Speaker 1: been watching. Little update on Nigel Lithgow. He claims that
- 49:58Speaker 1: he received loving emails, which he can share, that will
- 50:01Speaker 1: refute Paula Abdul's sexual assault allegations. So to remind you guys,
- 50:06Speaker 1: Paula Abdul is suing Nigel Lithgow. Now, he was the
- 50:09Speaker 1: producer of American Idol, which she was on the first
- 50:14Speaker 1: many seasons of. And then he put her on his
- 50:16Speaker 1: show where he was also the host, a judge, So
- 50:19Speaker 1: You Think You Can Dance. And she sang on two
- 50:22Speaker 1: different occasions. He sexually assaulted her, that he, you know,
- 50:30Speaker 1: was holding that over her head. He's saying it's totally
- 50:32Speaker 1: not true. And that he has all these texts, which
- 50:35Speaker 1: is shared, where she's like, I love having you in
- 50:38Speaker 1: my life. You're such a good friend. Thank you for
- 50:40Speaker 1: the beautiful flowers. Totally unnecessary. So sweet. You're the best.
- 50:45Speaker 1: The cast and crew love you. Now, that's always been
- 50:50Speaker 1: a hard thing of when someone comes forward that they
- 50:54Speaker 1: may have had what appears to be a friendly professional
- 51:00Speaker 1: relationship with the person that now say that that, you know,
- 51:03Speaker 1: they were a perpetrator to them. And we don't really know.
- 51:07Speaker 1: She could come back and say, I did that because
- 51:08Speaker 1: I was afraid because he said, you know, I was
- 51:11Speaker 1: hoping that would be enough. Maybe she's going to say,
- 51:13Speaker 1: I was hoping if I was such a good friend,
- 51:15Speaker 1: so nice and accepted every gift and acted like this
- 51:18Speaker 1: other incident didn't happen, we could just go on and
- 51:20Speaker 1: I could just keep being employed as a judge on
- 51:23Speaker 1: these shows. But now looking back, that wasn't right. And
- 51:26Speaker 1: I need to expose the truth.
- 51:28Speaker 5: Who knows?
- 51:28Speaker 1: But that's the latest with that. Rihanna. likes a paycheck.
- 51:33Speaker 1: And she performed at this billionaire's wedding in India that
- 51:38Speaker 1: like all these super famous people went to. I saw
- 51:42Speaker 1: Ivanka Trump went with her family and they're two billionaires
- 51:47Speaker 1: or a billion, yeah, I think it's a billionaire marrying someone.
- 51:49Speaker 1: I don't think it's a billionaire's daughter, whatever. They're billionaires
- 51:52Speaker 1: in India. And she went there and performed and she
- 51:54Speaker 1: got over $ 6 million. But people said, they got out
- 51:58Speaker 1: that it was a very lackluster performance. And then the
- 52:02Speaker 1: comments were like, you know what? She's not a great performer.
- 52:06Speaker 1: Like her songs are great, but she's not, you know,
- 52:09Speaker 1: running around like Madonna or JLo or whatever. She just
- 52:12Speaker 1: sings a song and is a little flippant about it
- 52:15Speaker 1: and like isn't killing it on stage. She's not the
- 52:18Speaker 1: greatest performer ever, but you can't blame her for taking
- 52:22Speaker 1: that paycheck. And if you're willing to pay that $ 6
- 52:23Speaker 1: billion to have her come, I think it's so interesting
- 52:27Speaker 1: that more and more like superstars are like going to
- 52:31Speaker 1: and just performing for six, $ 10 million for a billionaire.
- 52:34Speaker 1: And you're like, hey, if they're going to pay me, sure.
- 52:37Speaker 1: And I have been putting it out there. If there
- 52:41Speaker 1: is a billionaire, you don't even have to be a billionaire.
- 52:43Speaker 1: And your wife's a huge fan of Juicy Scoop or
- 52:46Speaker 1: your daughter or whatever, or they just want, like their
- 52:50Speaker 1: dream is just to like hang out with me. Let's
- 52:53Speaker 1: talk because I'm not above it. You know, I'm a delight,
- 52:57Speaker 1: you're a delight. Let's make a deal happen. And I will...
- 53:00Speaker 1: I will not give a lackluster performance. If you need
- 53:02Speaker 1: me to perform stand-up, I will do it, you know, amazing.
- 53:06Speaker 1: So Kristen Cavallari is dating this new guy. He's 24,
- 53:11Speaker 1: she's 37. And she's like, why is everyone freaking out
- 53:14Speaker 1: about the age gap? Technically, this makes her, technically, makes
- 53:18Speaker 1: her a puma. She's not a cougar. A cougar, I believe,
- 53:21Speaker 1: has to be in her 40s. And it goes all
- 53:24Speaker 1: the way up to panther, gray panther, okay? And a
- 53:28Speaker 1: puma is this girl who's in her mid to late
- 53:31Speaker 1: 30s and she dates a hot guy in his 20s.
- 53:34Speaker 1: And actually there was supposed to be a movie years
- 53:36Speaker 1: ago starring Jennifer Aniston called Pumas. But these guys are
- 53:41Speaker 1: like these Montana boys. And basically they lip sync songs
- 53:46Speaker 1: and they're like cute country guys. I think they're from Montana.
- 53:49Speaker 1: And she's dating one of them and she's like literally
- 53:51Speaker 1: doing TikTok videos with them now. And they're like out
- 53:54Speaker 1: of pool together and they're having fun. And she's like,
- 53:57Speaker 1: I don't understand why everyone's being so fucking weird. Like,
- 53:59Speaker 1: let me have my fun. I mean, we just talked
- 54:01Speaker 1: about Tom Schwartz, who's 40, dating a 24-year-old. So that's
- 54:07Speaker 1: kind of funny. And then Spencer Pratt is so hilarious,
- 54:10Speaker 1: you know, friend of the show. He's going to be
- 54:11Speaker 1: on soon. I promise. We just were texting. He's like,
- 54:15Speaker 1: doing his TikToks that he's like, if these Montana boys
- 54:18Speaker 1: were on the Hills reboot, like the show would have
- 54:21Speaker 1: gone forever. Like this is the kind of scoop, like
- 54:24Speaker 1: we needed the kind of juice that we need. Anyway,
- 54:26Speaker 1: I do think it's kind of weird that your career
- 54:28Speaker 1: is like, you're a TikTok band, just mouthing. But I
- 54:37Speaker 1: don't mean to, who cares? Like she's not out to
- 54:39Speaker 1: marry anybody. She's divorced with three kids. The last thing
- 54:41Speaker 1: she wants to do is like get someone serious. This
- 54:44Speaker 1: is pretty interesting. If you're watching Real Housewives of Miami,
- 54:48Speaker 1: I have to say, Larsa Pippen really kind of makes
- 54:52Speaker 1: the show because she's just kind of fun to look at.
- 54:59Speaker 1: Her looks have changed a lot. She's with Marcus Jordan. Apparently,
- 55:05Speaker 1: Marcus Jordan comes out and is nasty to the cast.
- 55:08Speaker 1: I think that's the next and final episode of the reunion.
- 55:11Speaker 1: But Now, Scottie Pippen had this alleged ex-lover, and she
- 55:19Speaker 1: is suing him for stalking, and she claims that Larsa
- 55:22Speaker 1: of Real Housewives of Miami also caused her suffering. So
- 55:26Speaker 1: this woman is saying that she dated Scottie Pippen years
- 55:31Speaker 1: ago when Larsa was married to him, and Larsa was harassing,
- 55:37Speaker 1: and it just seems like the flimsiest lawsuit ever. Right.
- 55:43Speaker 1: But I thought that was kind of interesting. And then
- 55:45Speaker 1: I saw a reel to promote selling the Hamptons. And
- 55:51Speaker 1: it's like selling Sunset, but it's in the Hamptons. So
- 55:53Speaker 1: it's hot young realtors in tiny outfits in $ 20 million homes,
- 55:57Speaker 1: which they would never get the listing in real life.
- 56:00Speaker 1: But whatever, it's a TV show. And Larsa Pippen is
- 56:03Speaker 1: in a preview of one of the episodes looking at
- 56:06Speaker 1: the houses. And I'm like, OK, there are certain people
- 56:09Speaker 1: that I've seen do way too many guest appearances on
- 56:12Speaker 1: reality shows. Larsa Pippen looking for houses, also Kelly Rowland
- 56:17Speaker 1: looking for houses. And I want to know, have either
- 56:20Speaker 1: of them ever bought a house from any of these
- 56:23Speaker 1: brokers where they, I know Larsa Pippen was also looking
- 56:26Speaker 1: at a house in Selling Sunset. I don't know who
- 56:29Speaker 1: the broker was or Million Dollar Listing. Like they just
- 56:33Speaker 1: must be like, who, what celebrities can we get in
- 56:35Speaker 1: that will get cute and are desperate enough to act
- 56:38Speaker 1: like they're actually interested in this house? Like it's never,
- 56:40Speaker 1: can we just, it's so annoying.
- 56:45Speaker 2: Okay.
- 56:45Speaker 1: So now I'm going to finish up the show with
- 56:48Speaker 1: a couple of disturbing crimes. So like, if you're not
- 56:51Speaker 1: into that, okay. This was crazy. You know, when I
- 56:55Speaker 1: had Dr. Leslie on, one of the things she said was,
- 57:01Speaker 1: I don't let my kids go on sleepovers. And I said,
- 57:04Speaker 1: why is that? I'm seeing that more and more in TikTok.
- 57:06Speaker 1: She's like, because in her work, Like 70% of assaults
- 57:11Speaker 1: on kids are done at sleepovers at other people's houses. So,
- 57:16Speaker 1: so many people sent me this article. And it's very disturbing.
- 57:21Speaker 1: So there was this 57-year-old dad. He just now filed
- 57:26Speaker 1: for divorce. This happened in August. I don't know where
- 57:29Speaker 1: the mother was in this. But his 12-year-old daughter invited
- 57:33Speaker 1: a few girls over for like a spa night. And
- 57:36Speaker 1: they set up their beds in the basement. And they
- 57:40Speaker 1: did all these, they went swimming, they had a barbecue.
- 57:42Speaker 1: The dad was like supervising them and he made them
- 57:46Speaker 1: mango smoothies. And the girl felt like there was chalky
- 57:49Speaker 1: stuff in it. So the one girl like faked it
- 57:52Speaker 1: and didn't finish it. He was kind of like mean
- 57:54Speaker 1: about it. And then they all go to bed and
- 57:57Speaker 1: he keeps coming down, checking, like waving his hand in
- 58:00Speaker 1: front of the girl's faces, checking, breathing. And we know
- 58:04Speaker 1: this because the one girl that didn't have the mango
- 58:06Speaker 1: smoothie stayed up and And he like she was laying
- 58:10Speaker 1: on the bed next to her friend who was passed
- 58:12Speaker 1: out because she drank the smoothie. And he like moved
- 58:15Speaker 1: that girl away from her. So she starts frantically texting
- 58:18Speaker 1: her mom and and anybody adult in her family because
- 58:22Speaker 1: they weren't answering because it's middle of the night. Come
- 58:24Speaker 1: get me. I'm scared. I'm scared. I'm scared. The mom
- 58:26Speaker 1: gets them. The kids leave. They go to the hospital.
- 58:29Speaker 1: A couple of girls are still completely out of it,
- 58:32Speaker 1: like can't walk. I mean, so disturbing, but it just
- 58:37Speaker 1: goes with that thing, which is just so sad. But like, no,
- 58:40Speaker 1: nobody should have sleepovers. They really shouldn't unless you... I
- 58:44Speaker 1: don't even want to say if you even know the people.
- 58:46Speaker 1: You just don't know. And again, there's no point. I agree. Like,
- 58:52Speaker 1: you have the rest of your life to live in
- 58:54Speaker 1: a dorm with someone when you're a full functioning adult.
- 58:58Speaker 1: But when you're a kid... And you're at someone's house
- 59:01Speaker 1: and you're eating and you're having fun. Just have your
- 59:03Speaker 1: mom pick you up at 10. Nobody needs to stay
- 59:05Speaker 1: there past 10. That's my opinion. Love is Blind is
- 59:09Speaker 1: on tonight. I believe. And we're going to find out
- 59:11Speaker 1: who got married. That's a good one. I also want
- 59:14Speaker 1: to talk about this. Couple to throuple. It's a show
- 59:17Speaker 1: on Peacock. You know I love The Seeking Sister Wives.
- 59:22Speaker 1: Seeking Sister Wives is coming back, okay? It's coming back
- 59:25Speaker 1: and they're showing that couple that I was fascinated by
- 59:28Speaker 1: where the girl clearly didn't want, she had two boys,
- 59:32Speaker 1: the girl clearly didn't want another wife. I don't know
- 59:35Speaker 1: if they just want to be on TV, but the
- 59:37Speaker 1: husband now is back and he's like, we read the
- 59:39Speaker 1: scripture and the scripture about the Holy Spirit coming inside
- 59:45Speaker 1: of you is really the man spreading his sperm to
- 59:48Speaker 1: numerous women. This is what is on the TLC website.
- 59:52Speaker 1: And she's like, yeah. And in the previous season, I
- 59:54Speaker 1: didn't think the show was coming back. In the previous seasons,
- 59:57Speaker 1: he's like, I'm going to find, we found this girl
- 1:00:00Speaker 1: like Rosalyn or something. And she bailed. When it finally
- 1:00:05Speaker 1: came down to actually moving to America and like getting
- 1:00:08Speaker 1: married and having his child, she wanted no part of
- 1:00:10Speaker 1: it and like moved on. So now they're seeking for another.
- 1:00:14Speaker 1: So now I'm watching the show from couple to throuple
- 1:00:17Speaker 1: and they go to like an island, like a love island.
- 1:00:19Speaker 1: And there's all these couples and they're looking to take
- 1:00:22Speaker 1: on a third. And most of the couples are a
- 1:00:25Speaker 1: man and a woman looking for a girl, but there's
- 1:00:28Speaker 1: two gay guys looking for a guy. And then there's
- 1:00:30Speaker 1: a queer couple where the girl's a lesbian and the
- 1:00:35Speaker 1: guy had a lifestyle mostly being gay, but then they
- 1:00:39Speaker 1: found each other and now they're like, whatever goes. I
- 1:00:43Speaker 1: don't believe those people. I think they just like were
- 1:00:44Speaker 1: friends and wanted to be on TV. Anyway, in watching it,
- 1:00:48Speaker 1: they have to, once they take on their third, they
- 1:00:50Speaker 1: all go back to their suites and they all have
- 1:00:52Speaker 1: to sleep in the same bed. And the third has
- 1:00:55Speaker 1: to be in the middle, which there's no way I
- 1:00:58Speaker 1: could ever sleep in the middle. Like I have to
- 1:00:59Speaker 1: be on the side with like a leg out. Nothing
- 1:01:03Speaker 1: sounds worse to me. Even when we'd have our kids
- 1:01:05Speaker 1: sleep in our bed, like I couldn't even handle it.
- 1:01:08Speaker 1: And it's like some of them don't do anything. Some
- 1:01:10Speaker 1: get busy right away. But it really feels like two
- 1:01:14Speaker 1: people just like taking on a sex slave. Like it
- 1:01:17Speaker 1: is so bizarre. I would be like, what the hell
- 1:01:22Speaker 1: am I watching? But I couldn't turn away. So I
- 1:01:24Speaker 1: was watching that and I like, I don't know. It's
- 1:01:28Speaker 1: just I was like and then I was like, what
- 1:01:30Speaker 1: if this was just society? Like what if this was
- 1:01:32Speaker 1: just sex? You grew up in everybody's family. There were
- 1:01:36Speaker 1: three parents that all lived together and all slept together.
- 1:01:39Speaker 1: I mean, listen, it doesn't work out. Spoiler alert, it
- 1:01:42Speaker 1: does not work out. It doesn't work on Seeking Sister Wives.
- 1:01:47Speaker 1: It doesn't work here. And it doesn't work on Sister
- 1:01:51Speaker 1: Wives either, which I am going to now talk about
- 1:01:54Speaker 1: something very sad. This news came out last night. Janelle
- 1:02:00Speaker 1: Brown's son, Garrison- has ended his life. And it's so sad.
- 1:02:07Speaker 1: He was featured on the show Sisterwise for many years.
- 1:02:10Speaker 1: He was 25 years old. It was with a gun.
- 1:02:14Speaker 1: And unfortunately, his other brother that was also featured, her
- 1:02:17Speaker 1: other son is the one who found him. Janelle posted
- 1:02:21Speaker 1: about it. Mary has posted about it. The photo that
- 1:02:25Speaker 1: Janelle posted was him in his combat gear. He served
- 1:02:29Speaker 1: in the armed forces. Which makes you wonder, was there PTSD?
- 1:02:34Speaker 1: We'll never really know what brings someone this, if it's
- 1:02:37Speaker 1: a multitude of things or one particular thing. I believe
- 1:02:41Speaker 1: they're currently filming. Of course, TLC is very sad about it, too.
- 1:02:46Speaker 1: And I just kind of wonder what will happen with
- 1:02:50Speaker 1: the show. Like, how will they address this? We have
- 1:02:53Speaker 1: never seen this on a reality show before. Of course,
- 1:02:58Speaker 1: on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, Taylor Armstrong's. husband also
- 1:03:02Speaker 1: ended his life. But it was not while they were
- 1:03:05Speaker 1: filming and they were going through divorce and she did
- 1:03:08Speaker 1: not come back to Beverly Hills after that. Many years later,
- 1:03:11Speaker 1: she just recently went on OC, but she's not continuing
- 1:03:16Speaker 1: with that. But it's such a dark, sad, the worst
- 1:03:21Speaker 1: thing that could ever happen to a family. And I just,
- 1:03:25Speaker 1: I don't know what I would do if I was
- 1:03:27Speaker 1: a producer. I don't know. Do you take a permit?
- 1:03:30Speaker 1: You know, obviously you're going to take a break from
- 1:03:33Speaker 1: filming or are you going not to because it's like
- 1:03:36Speaker 1: a documentary. It's just so sad. And I know that,
- 1:03:39Speaker 1: you know, everything I've seen is just obviously a lot
- 1:03:42Speaker 1: of love and care for this family. So that was really,
- 1:03:46Speaker 1: really sad. Also, this was a case I covered for
- 1:03:51Speaker 1: a long time. This was Jennifer Dulos. And she was
- 1:03:57Speaker 1: a beautiful mother of five. And she went missing one morning,
- 1:04:01Speaker 1: Connecticut mom. She was going through an awful divorce with
- 1:04:05Speaker 1: her husband and where they were fighting over the kids.
- 1:04:08Speaker 1: He already had a girlfriend. She just was like, I
- 1:04:11Speaker 1: just want to live my life. Just stop. He had
- 1:04:14Speaker 1: borrowed $ 2 million from her mother. The mother was demanding
- 1:04:17Speaker 1: that he return the money. He was having financial issues.
- 1:04:20Speaker 1: He was a builder. He was this guy. He was
- 1:04:23Speaker 1: Greek and he was good looking, but they were having
- 1:04:26Speaker 1: an awful divorce. She goes missing after dropping the kids off.
- 1:04:30Speaker 1: We never see her again. That was over three years ago.
- 1:04:35Speaker 1: They start to investigate him and they realize that they
- 1:04:40Speaker 1: have footage of him dropping off bags in a trash
- 1:04:45Speaker 1: can with his girlfriend. In those bags, they get It's
- 1:04:50Speaker 1: bloody clothes and things like that. And it's DNA and
- 1:04:54Speaker 1: it's DNA of the girlfriend. So that's very bad. He
- 1:04:58Speaker 1: also has an employee of his. He goes, detail my car,
- 1:05:03Speaker 1: but also remove the two car seats, the two front
- 1:05:06Speaker 1: seats of this truck. And this is after the wife
- 1:05:10Speaker 1: has gone missing. And the guy is like, I really
- 1:05:12Speaker 1: don't want to do this. But the guy does what
- 1:05:15Speaker 1: he's told, but he keeps the two original seats. And
- 1:05:19Speaker 1: eventually turned that over to the police, which had blood
- 1:05:23Speaker 1: on them. Eventually, the husband does get arrested, even though
- 1:05:27Speaker 1: he's doing interviews and saying like, I didn't do it.
- 1:05:29Speaker 1: I didn't do it. We don't know where she is.
- 1:05:32Speaker 1: She may have just taken off. She was a writer
- 1:05:34Speaker 1: and she'd written a book very similar to Gone Girl,
- 1:05:38Speaker 1: where the woman fakes her own missing and everything to
- 1:05:42Speaker 1: get a cheating husband back, played by Ben Affleck. That
- 1:05:45Speaker 1: was a very popular book and movie. But she wrote
- 1:05:48Speaker 1: it before it ever came out. And they're like, what?
- 1:05:51Speaker 1: Maybe she's doing that. Everyone's like, she's not going to
- 1:05:53Speaker 1: leave her five kids and have them worry. Something went wrong.
- 1:05:57Speaker 1: We think it's you. He gets arrested. And while on bail,
- 1:06:02Speaker 1: he ends his life in his garage in his car.
- 1:06:06Speaker 1: Just now, the girlfriend has been found guilty of tampering
- 1:06:12Speaker 1: with evidence, hindering a prosecution, disposing of evidence. not being
- 1:06:20Speaker 1: truthful to investigators, all these counts she has been found
- 1:06:24Speaker 1: guilty of. Not murder, but enough counts that if you
- 1:06:30Speaker 1: put it together, her sentencing could actually go up to
- 1:06:33Speaker 1: 50 years. And she has a daughter and she's always
- 1:06:37Speaker 1: claimed her innocence, always said, you know, I didn't know
- 1:06:40Speaker 1: what was going on. I thought she really was missing, whatever.
- 1:06:43Speaker 1: But they found her guilty in planning a murder and
- 1:06:47Speaker 1: and disposing of the evidence. So she's going to be sentenced.
- 1:06:51Speaker 1: Another crime that I've talked about is Rebecca Grossman. Rebecca
- 1:06:55Speaker 1: Grossman is from the area in which I live. She's 62.
- 1:07:00Speaker 1: She was, quote, unquote, a socialite. Her husband was a
- 1:07:03Speaker 1: big plastic surgeon. They had the Grossman Burn Center, which
- 1:07:07Speaker 1: was this great place to help people that are severely burned.
- 1:07:10Speaker 1: She had an open marriage with her husband at this time.
- 1:07:14Speaker 1: And they had two kids that are like 19 and
- 1:07:17Speaker 1: 17 or something. And so she had a boyfriend named
- 1:07:23Speaker 1: Scott Erickson, who's a former baseball player. In September, I
- 1:07:26Speaker 1: think it was September of 2020, she and, so it
- 1:07:30Speaker 1: was COVID and kids are away at home from school.
- 1:07:33Speaker 1: She and the boyfriend have one drink at one location
- 1:07:36Speaker 1: and one drink at another. And they're going back to,
- 1:07:39Speaker 1: I assume a place to like hang out her house
- 1:07:43Speaker 1: or an extra home she had. And she goes speeding
- 1:07:47Speaker 1: through this crosswalk situation and hit two little boys and
- 1:07:54Speaker 1: they died. The mom was walking her four kids and
- 1:07:59Speaker 1: the two older ones she couldn't pull back. She could
- 1:08:01Speaker 1: only pull back the five-year-old. She continues to go until
- 1:08:06Speaker 1: her car, because there was an impact, shuts off the fuel.
- 1:08:11Speaker 1: So she then has to stop. And she's like, you know,
- 1:08:15Speaker 1: her on star goes on. She's like, I don't know
- 1:08:17Speaker 1: what happened. And they're like, well, there was an accident
- 1:08:19Speaker 1: a little bit back just where you passed. Did you
- 1:08:21Speaker 1: hit anything? And she's like, I don't know. The cops
- 1:08:24Speaker 1: come and she gets arrested. And this has been going
- 1:08:29Speaker 1: on now for three years. Of course, she has the
- 1:08:31Speaker 1: funds to have, you know, the best attorneys. And they go,
- 1:08:35Speaker 1: she goes on trial and they say, we think it's
- 1:08:39Speaker 1: Scott Erickson who hit the boys. And she was after them.
- 1:08:44Speaker 1: And Her car has smash marks in front. It shows
- 1:08:49Speaker 1: her black box from her car shows that she's going
- 1:08:51Speaker 1: 81 miles an hour. But the defense was like, why
- 1:08:54Speaker 1: is Scott Erickson not at least being questioned? And then
- 1:08:58Speaker 1: her daughter comes on and says, Scott Erickson. was hiding
- 1:09:01Speaker 1: in a bush and I saw him there. And then
- 1:09:04Speaker 1: he threatened me that if I say the truth, that
- 1:09:06Speaker 1: it was really his car that hit it. And the
- 1:09:08Speaker 1: defense was saying, you know, he turned a different car
- 1:09:12Speaker 1: into the police to check, not the one he was
- 1:09:14Speaker 1: really driving. He has two that are similar. Anyway, the
- 1:09:18Speaker 1: jury didn't take any of that. They found her to
- 1:09:21Speaker 1: be guilty of it. And now she's going to be
- 1:09:23Speaker 1: sentenced on April 10th. She's facing a lot of years.
- 1:09:27Speaker 1: The parents finally have a little bit of closure because
- 1:09:30Speaker 1: they're like every day that we'd go to court, this
- 1:09:32Speaker 1: felt like, you know, we're reliving our children's funeral. Every
- 1:09:36Speaker 1: time we had to, you know, have another hearing and everything.
- 1:09:38Speaker 1: And her attorney is setting up an appeal. So just
- 1:09:41Speaker 1: a little conclusions on some juicy crimes that I've covered
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