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"Black Friday, OK, But 'Black Out Wednesday'?" (Tuesday November 25 2025, Hour 1) · First Thing Today with Joe Thomas

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  Speaker 1: Quikna needs a know basis, because you need to know
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  Speaker 1: the first thing today.
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  Speaker 2: To words that steal me step. You have a day
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  Speaker 2: at least for work. When the sun comes up, drops
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  Speaker 2: a cut of the scoon joys everything a dreamer, all
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  Speaker 2: the treasure needs no wonder.
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  Speaker 3: Joe's all smiled.
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  Speaker 4: He only as.
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  Speaker 5: Joe, thank you for letting me be of service to you, one.
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  Speaker 6: Of the many things that I am thankful for.
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  Speaker 5: As we head into Thanksgiving, and now the smells start
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  Speaker 5: to fill your kitchen.
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  Speaker 6: Don't they do? What are you cooking?
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  Speaker 5: And all of that starts happening, or you start looking
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  Speaker 5: the car because it's travel time. Here, I was reading
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  Speaker 5: a fascinating piece to my friends. My buddy of mine
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  Speaker 5: runs the Triple A mid Atlantic Media Center, Morgan Dean
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  Speaker 5: x weather Man got the better gig in media. He
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  Speaker 5: became a spokesperson for somebody doesn't have to cover as
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  Speaker 5: many different things, just worries about the Triple A stuff.
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  Speaker 5: But he was telling me about blackout Wednesday. And I'm
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  Speaker 5: not ashamed to admit that I'm not as hip as
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  Speaker 5: I used to be. Okay, I was never as hip
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  Speaker 5: as I used to be, but I had no idea
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  Speaker 5: what this blackout? I mean, I've heard of black Friday
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  Speaker 5: obviously and Small Business Saturday, and many of our sponsors
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  Speaker 5: along the shows cadre of folks are small businesses.
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  Speaker 6: Please utilize them.
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  Speaker 5: And of course many of our flagship stations are small businesses,
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  Speaker 5: so please support them through the trials and tribulations of
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  Speaker 5: an out of control FCC commissioner and people who think
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  Speaker 5: that you know, the kiss the ring and you get
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  Speaker 5: to turn the transmitter on. But that being said, sure
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  Speaker 5: what Trump can't pick somebody who's bad, you know, And
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  Speaker 5: I get it. I understand why he's out there going
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  Speaker 5: after broadcasters. Broadcasters have for too long abused the privilege,
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  Speaker 5: and we deserve a smack on the wrist. But don't
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  Speaker 5: don't start acting like you own the airwaves and we're
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  Speaker 5: allowed to use it. That that really is the stuff
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  Speaker 5: that you know, will turn conservatives against other conservatives, because
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  Speaker 5: if you understand broadcasting, and a lot of conservative commentators don't,
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  Speaker 5: they're conservative commentators that somebody said, here, that's a microphone.
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  Speaker 5: You talk towards that and we'll do the rest. Those
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  Speaker 5: of us who understand broadcasting understand we own the airwaves.
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  Speaker 5: They just guarantee that nobody else shows up and starts
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  Speaker 5: selling our T shirts through it. But that being said,
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  Speaker 5: this blackout Wednesday stuff just.
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  Speaker 6: And I, as.
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  Speaker 5: Morgan was explaining it to me, I just it started
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  Speaker 5: to it was chillingly sensible. I'm like, oh, yeah, okay,
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  Speaker 5: So everyone gets back into town, hasn't seen their cousins
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  Speaker 5: for a while, or their friends from high school, and
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  Speaker 5: they go out on a vendor. And you know, he
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  Speaker 5: was telling me that the majority of fatalities involved in
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  Speaker 5: Thanksgiving weekend traffic crashes that involve alcohol and impairment in
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  Speaker 5: any way, shape or form happen on Wednesday. Please, I mean,
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  Speaker 5: you know, unless And the sad part of it is
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  Speaker 5: my first thought was, I don't think these are people
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  Speaker 5: that have a lot to be thankful for, or maybe
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  Speaker 5: they just don't realize. And that's more often the case.
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  Speaker 5: People say I have nothing to be thankful for our
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  Speaker 5: damn it. It's they don't realize the things that they
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  Speaker 5: should be thankful for. We begin with our first things
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  Speaker 5: and prickly times. As the cases against FBI Director James
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  Speaker 5: Comy and New York Attorney General Letitia James were tossed
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  Speaker 5: out of court, dismissed without prejudice, which means they can
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  Speaker 5: be refiled.
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  Speaker 6: Trust me, I learned that the hard way. This year.
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  Speaker 5: Pam Bondi, US Attorney General, was speaking in Memphis at
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  Speaker 5: the Safe Task Force meeting there and she said she
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  Speaker 5: wants them recharged. US District Judge Cameron Curry dismissed the
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  Speaker 5: indictments ruled that the prosecutor who brought the cases, Lindsay Halligan,
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  Speaker 5: had not been lawfully appointed, which was Comy's defense. Ruben Diego,
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  Speaker 5: senator from Arizona, warned military members Monday that quote there
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  Speaker 5: will be consequences if they are allowed to reactivate Senator
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  Speaker 5: Mark Kelly and bring him up on charges and bring
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  Speaker 5: him up for court martial, based on the video telling
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  Speaker 5: other soldiers to refuse illegal orders, though none were actually given.
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  Speaker 5: Nation's top military officer meanwhile visited American troops in Puerto
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  Speaker 5: amassed of the warships that are tackling the war on
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  Speaker 5: on the capital of Kiev Tuesday, striking residential buildings and
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  Speaker 5: changes in the European Union's approach to digital policy, and
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  Speaker 3: Act as if he have faith, and faith shall be
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  Speaker 3: given to you for another way, fake it to you,
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  Speaker 3: make it.
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  Speaker 5: That's unfortunately what I'm starting to feel like. I'm with
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  Speaker 5: Milania on President Trump's approach to Russia because he keeps saying,
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  Speaker 5: we had a great phone call, we had a great meeting.
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  Speaker 5: Things are moving, Thinkers are great, and then Russia goes
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  Speaker 5: and blows up, you know, four or five blocks of
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  Speaker 5: the Ukrainian capital city. And you know, President Trump confessed
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  Speaker 5: the story that you know, he'll get back to the
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  Speaker 5: West Wing and he'll get back to the residents. They'll
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  Speaker 5: get upstairs in Millennia will be waiting for him and say, well, really,
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  Speaker 5: you had a great meeting with Putin? Huh did you
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  Speaker 5: see this? And click on you know, some TVO little
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  Speaker 5: bit of the news and there'll be you know, drones
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  Speaker 5: reigning terror from above on Ukrainian cities. And I get it.
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  Speaker 5: And having grown up in New York City in the
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  Speaker 5: seventies and eighties when Donald Trump was coming onto the
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  Speaker 5: scene and building buildings, often the model would be tell
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  Speaker 5: everyone how great it's going to be, and then you
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  Speaker 5: have to live up to how great it's going to
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  Speaker 5: have to be. How do you how do you make
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  Speaker 5: you know, builders and architects and engineers do something incredible, Well,
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  Speaker 5: you tell them it's going to be incredible before they start,
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  Speaker 5: and then they got to live up to it. And
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  Speaker 5: it's it's aspirational. It is a little bit of fake
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  Speaker 5: it till you make. But as foreign policy goes, yes,
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  Speaker 5: we all want this war to end because thousands and
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  Speaker 5: thousands of people, and with such a Ukrainian population in
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  Speaker 5: the United States, I would argue there may be as
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  Speaker 5: many Ukrainians or people of Ukrainian descent in the United
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  Speaker 5: States as there are people with direct connection at least
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  Speaker 5: to Israel, though I think the Jewish population is higher.
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  Speaker 5: So you want the bombing and the killing and the
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  Speaker 5: invading to stop. And as an abstract of foreign policy,
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  Speaker 5: you don't get to invade other countries period. Why is
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  Speaker 5: this a debatable subject? Well, you know, Russia says they
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  Speaker 5: really didn't recognize the board. All right, that's all clap trap.
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  Speaker 5: That's rationalizations for stuff. You can't support an idea that
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  Speaker 5: you just get to invade your neighbors because and still
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  Speaker 5: get to call yourself a free nation. That's aspirational of
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  Speaker 5: people being able to pursue their dreams and visions with
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  Speaker 5: their gifts and talents. You have to stand up for
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  Speaker 5: the rule of law. And the problem with the way
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  Speaker 5: the US has been administered up until January twentieth of
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  Speaker 5: twenty twenty five has been this ignorance of the law
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  Speaker 5: in pursuit of political expediency. I know, I know you're
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  Speaker 5: worried about getting the cranberry sauce and all that.
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  Speaker 6: I understand that.
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  Speaker 5: You're like, Dude, isn't this supposed to be some filling
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  Speaker 5: guy working for you? Joe, Nope, that's me. We're going
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  Speaker 5: to be here Thursday morning. I mean, might be eating dinner,
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  Speaker 5: rolls and yams while we're on the air, but I'm
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  Speaker 5: gonna be here Thursday morning. But the United States policy,
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  Speaker 5: not just foreign policy, but policy in general, is in
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  Speaker 5: exchange for political expediency economic expediency. We're trading off right
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  Speaker 5: versus wrong and acting like the rule of law doesn't exist. Okay,
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  Speaker 5: some poor black kid gets chased down by a cop
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  Speaker 5: and tackled injured, your drug dealing.
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  Speaker 6: To twelve year olds. But you know he's a poor
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  Speaker 6: black kid.
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  Speaker 5: He's just trying to make his ends meet, so maybe
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  Speaker 5: he shouldn't be charged with drug dealing and potential.
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  Speaker 6: You know, we faced it here in Virginia.
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  Speaker 5: We were trying to come up with a law that
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  Speaker 5: would punish fentanyl dealers, and do you know there were
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  Speaker 5: activists protesting against stiffer penalties for selling fentanyl even if
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  Speaker 5: the case involved minors. That you know, these people are
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  Speaker 5: just trying to get by. Oh my god. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: I don't know what you and I can do about it.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe it's it's like being at the beach thinking maybe
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  Speaker 5: we can keep the water from getting to the same castle,
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  Speaker 5: but you try anyway. But that's where we are. Good morning,
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  Speaker 5: you're on the air with Joe. First thing this Tuesday morning.
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  Speaker 6: Who's this?
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  Speaker 17: Hey? This is Moscow, Bob.
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  Speaker 6: Hey, Bob, how are things there in Moscow?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah?
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  Speaker 17: Pretty good. I agree with you on some point that
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  Speaker 17: a country doesn't have a right to invade another country.
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  Speaker 17: But where does it end in? What's the drawing point?
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  Speaker 17: Because basically, basically Crimea and the People's Republic of the
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  Speaker 17: next practically held an election where they chose to succeed
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  Speaker 17: from Ukraine. But the United States doesn't acknowledge it because
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  Speaker 17: they don't believe it was a They believe it was
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  Speaker 17: a sham election. Who is it for the United States
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  Speaker 17: to decide what's a sham and what's not a sham.
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  Speaker 5: A second, here, Bob, we know sham elections here in
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  Speaker 5: the United States. We've held quite a few sham elections
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  Speaker 5: here in the United States. We might be the global
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  Speaker 5: expert on phony. Boloney elections.
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  Speaker 17: That's my point is but you have to understand my
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  Speaker 17: point is those crimeum and the next people, the next
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  Speaker 17: people's Republicans next are basically ethnic Russian.
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  Speaker 6: I understand that.
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  Speaker 17: So if they voted democratically in their own region to
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  Speaker 17: succeed from Ukraine, then why aren't we recognizing them? And
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  Speaker 17: why why would Ukraine doing genocide in both places?
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  Speaker 5: Well and again And that's and that's a fact that
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  Speaker 5: has not been adjudicated. And that's another failing in this
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  Speaker 5: because this is you know, not to open a whole
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  Speaker 5: second tier can of worms, but this is the this
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  Speaker 5: is the ineptitude of the United Nations. Wasn't the United Nations.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, we're here in uh you know, one of
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  Speaker 5: our flagship cities is Stanton, Virginia, home to the Woodrow
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  Speaker 5: Wilson Presidential Library, and and he you know, you go
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  Speaker 5: in there and it's all trumpeting international affairs and the
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  Speaker 5: you know, the the world and the League of Nations
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  Speaker 5: and we're going to end war in our time. And
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  Speaker 5: we've had more war. We've had more death, more killing,
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  Speaker 5: more bombing, more war in the existence during the existence
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  Speaker 5: of the League of Nations and the United Nations than
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  Speaker 5: we had before it it seems to be, you know, it's
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  Speaker 5: more technology. But but the failure of the World Court
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  Speaker 5: to to you know, adjudicate this kind of stuff again
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  Speaker 5: goes back to this idea of we'll look the other
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  Speaker 5: way when it's expedient for us.
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  Speaker 17: Right, And but that that's the whole point. Everything that's
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  Speaker 17: happened in Ukraine since the was basically the United States
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  Speaker 17: doing based on what the CIA was doing covertly in Ukraine.
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  Speaker 17: You know that, I know that the government, the CIA
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  Speaker 17: operatives have worked in how many other countries around the
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  Speaker 17: world that we wanted access to what happened in Egypt.
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  Speaker 17: So the point is is everyone's saying Russia, Russia, Russia,
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  Speaker 17: But when is it going to come to light that
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  Speaker 1: Amaze your friends here in First Thing Today by Joe Thomas.
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  Speaker 24: Got it, So let's talk right now. Do you believe
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  Speaker 24: President Trump has issued any illegal orders.
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  Speaker 10: To my knowledge.
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  Speaker 26: I am not aware of things that are illegal.
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  Speaker 6: So there's a least slot can you know?
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  Speaker 5: As I said, it's bad when even ABC can't carry
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  Speaker 5: the water for you. It goes on and then she starts,
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  Speaker 5: and I had to chuckle a little bit listening to this,
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  Speaker 5: because I will often see a text message or an
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  Speaker 5: email saying, Joe, ease up on the pop culture references there,
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  Speaker 5: we expect you to deal with greater gravitas than just saying, hey,
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  Speaker 5: I watched this in an episode of The West Wing Ones.
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  Speaker 5: Although and this program has called this out frequently, there
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  Speaker 5: are way too many moments in the Biden administration that
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  Speaker 5: just seemed to be ripped right out of the scripts
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  Speaker 5: of Aaron sorgu But Aaron Sorkin pops up and at
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  Speaker 5: least Slotkin's defense of her crazy video.
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  Speaker 24: It's very clear that no one should follow an illegal order,
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  Speaker 24: but it's very murky when you look at what is
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  Speaker 24: an illegal order, and if you go into morally ethically,
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  Speaker 24: that's a pretty tough thing to look at and say.
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  Speaker 7: How do I navigate this?
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  Speaker 5: May I step in for a moment on behalf of
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  Speaker 5: broadcasters worldwide? Stop making excuses for people. It's not murky.
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  Speaker 5: There are right and wrong things. This is why I
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  Speaker 5: began this coverage yesterday with the sixth commandment, thou shalt
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  Speaker 5: not murder, thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor,
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  Speaker 5: thou shalt not steal. It's not murky. And that's how
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  Speaker 5: we wind up with these moral equivalencies. And well, we're
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  Speaker 5: allies with.
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  Speaker 6: This is exactly exactly.
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  Speaker 5: What George Washington warned us about because our ally said, well,
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  Speaker 5: you know, we or or we want them to be
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  Speaker 5: our ally because we want their stuff, or we don't
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  Speaker 5: just do right and wrong. But that yeah, like I
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  Speaker 5: expect anything better from ABC Television anyway. Slotkin's answer, of course.
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  Speaker 24: Is very clear that no one should follow.
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  Speaker 6: I don't need to listen to her again, please, I
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  Speaker 6: don't get it.
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  Speaker 19: I don't.
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  Speaker 26: I mean, look, you going back to Nuremberg, right that, Well,
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  Speaker 26: they told me to do it. That's why I murdered people.
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  Speaker 5: By the way, the preceding was paid for by Russell Crowe,
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  Speaker 5: who wanted a little promotion for his god awful movie,
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  Speaker 5: which by the way, still hasn't crested third in the
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  Speaker 5: weekend box office.
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  Speaker 26: Ever, I don't, I mean, look you going back to Nuremberg,
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  Speaker 26: right that, well, they told me to do it. That's
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  Speaker 26: why I murdered people.
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  Speaker 5: Is not an excuse.
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  Speaker 26: If you look at popular culture, there's like you watch,
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  Speaker 26: you know, a few good men. We have plenty of
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  Speaker 26: examples since World War Two in Vietnam where people were
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  Speaker 26: told to follow illegal.
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  Speaker 5: Orders and Vietnam, you mean the Vietnam War that was
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  Speaker 5: covered by monies spent by the Soviet Union, that Vietnam War.
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  Speaker 5: Now the Republicans, just to put a finer point on this,
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  Speaker 5: have issued their own video now, you know, and and
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  Speaker 5: have struck back.
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  Speaker 17: On the.
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  Speaker 6: Lunacy of this.
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  Speaker 5: And I'm not even going to go back and get
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  Speaker 5: mired in what we did yesterday because yesterday the point
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  Speaker 5: I was making is her whole premise is based on
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  Speaker 5: the fact that she thinks our souls, especially the commanding officers,
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  Speaker 5: are stupid, and even beyond that, the JAG officers that
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  Speaker 5: she says are supposed to be where you go are
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  Speaker 5: also stupid.
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  Speaker 21: Released because there are also fifteen House Republicans who are
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  Speaker 21: also veterans, who released a video, including a retired three
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  Speaker 21: star Marine Corps General Jack Bergman. Take a listen to this,
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  Speaker 21: Troops listen up.
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  Speaker 15: Any service member who refuses a lawful order is subject
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  Speaker 15: to court martial for violating the Uniform Code of Military Justice.
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  Speaker 6: We study what's lawful and what's not lawful.
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  Speaker 17: And the Democrats stunt insinuating that their illegal or unconstitutional orders.
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  Speaker 6: It's downright dangerous. It is corrosive.
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  Speaker 14: It is meant to weaken our country and weaken the military.
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  Speaker 5: So they can't come across anything that was actually done
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  Speaker 5: that was illegal. What they're trying to draw the moral
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  Speaker 5: equivalency too, is the National Guard going in to support
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  Speaker 5: police officers and protect federal property. Hey, you want to
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  Speaker 5: have a discussion about how much federal property there is,
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  Speaker 5: that's fine. There's going to be courthouses though, there are
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  Speaker 5: going to be federal offices. Sorry, that's just going to exist.
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  Speaker 5: You want to talk about how much park Land we own?
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  Speaker 5: That that kind of stuff. That's different, and that is
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  Speaker 5: a reasonable conversation. But sending the National Guard, everything that's
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  Speaker 5: been done was done legally, and that's what they can't stand.
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  Speaker 5: They can't stand that this Trump administration, unlike the first one,
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  Speaker 5: didn't you often step on its genitals.
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  Speaker 6: I cleaned that one up. That's not the colloquial way
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  Speaker 6: you say it.
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  Speaker 5: But too often in the first term of President Trump's administration,
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  Speaker 5: he would step on as you know what, and then
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  Speaker 5: have to spend a week or two backtracking over it
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  Speaker 5: to try to you know, correct whatever it was that was,
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  Speaker 5: you know, done out of order or without completely checking
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  Speaker 5: all the fine print.
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  Speaker 6: Steve Miller and.
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  Speaker 5: The team that has been vetting all of these actions
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  Speaker 5: the trumpet, they have been buttoned up within the law,
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  Speaker 5: and even the you know, the the Democrats are like
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  Speaker 5: Alie Sluntkin, have to admit, fellow.
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  Speaker 21: Veterans that what you have put out there is weakening
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  Speaker 21: and corrosive to the military.
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  Speaker 23: Well, these, unfortunately, are some of Trump's core supporters that
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  Speaker 23: are rallying behind So.
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  Speaker 6: What that's not evidence. Nobody gives a crap. They're Republicans,
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  Speaker 6: she said. They were Republicans when she played the video.
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  Speaker 8: President, and they know better.
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  Speaker 23: They know exactly the difference between lawful versus unlawful. We
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  Speaker 23: were very clear in the video that we were talking
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  Speaker 23: about as unlawful orders. You have the president's spokesperson going
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  Speaker 23: on into a press conference this past week and saying
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  Speaker 23: that we called for people to disobey lawful orders. They're
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  Speaker 23: simply lying because the truth is unacceptable to them. It's unacceptable.
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  Speaker 23: We wanted to start a conversation and we did about
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  Speaker 23: the dangerous rhetoric this president is using and the threats
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  Speaker 23: that he's made.
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  Speaker 6: It's not what you said. You're lying.
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  Speaker 5: This is crow, Jason Crowe is. You're just out and
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  Speaker 5: out now trying to explain away what you can't explain.
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  Speaker 5: This is good lander.
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  Speaker 10: What illegal orders are you urging troops to refuse?
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  Speaker 15: And what do you hope they take away from your message? Alex,
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  Speaker 15: We love this country, we love our contest.
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  Speaker 6: It's not what she asked you.
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  Speaker 6: It's not what she asked.
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