Latest / The Skol Hop / TSH Ep. 14 - Raging River & Surging Vikings

Transcript

TSH Ep. 14 - Raging River & Surging Vikings · The Skol Hop

• 0:05
  Out of the shot gun. On third down, Cam Jordan got around the
• 0:09
  right tackle Dom Look see nothing now. He runs out to the left.
• 0:12
  He points to somebody. He turns Josh Jobs with a rushing touchdown, has
• 0:24
  run Minnesota to US sixteen three. Please all right, hey, Vikings fans,
• 0:31
  welcome in to another episode of the School Hop. I'm Evan and I'm
• 0:34
  Austin. We're just a couple of dudes from Iowa. We like drinking beer.
• 0:38
  We like talking about the Minnesota Vikings. We do school school. What
• 0:42
  are we drinking today? We have the Raging River IPA from Front Street Brewery
• 0:51
  in Devenport, Iowa. We already recorded our TikTok. Trying this beer for
• 0:57
  the first time tonight. I've had it many times. This is the first
• 1:00
  time you've had this one first time for me. Yep. Yeah, it's
• 1:03
  a it's just a simple in a good way, A simple I PA.
• 1:08
  It's not aggressive. I think you said it. It doesn't try to do
• 1:12
  too much. Yeah, it's a simple, yeah, straightforward, but it's
• 1:15
  it's definitely an I p A. Yeah. I like that in the way
• 1:19
  like a bud light or a cores light. They're like, you know,
• 1:22
  a simple you know, light beer. This is a simple I PA.
• 1:26
  It's not not too aggressive. So if you kind of like I Pas,
• 1:30
  this is your deal. Yeah, and if you really like I Pas,
• 1:33
  this is still your deal because it's really good and it's a local product right
• 1:37
  here in the Quad Cities area. Yeah. So this is my first one
• 1:41
  in probably a couple of months. It's definitely not gonna be my last one.
• 1:45
  I will have many, many more Raging River I pas over the course
• 1:49
  of my beer drinking career. It is your first one. Is this gonna
• 1:52
  be your last one? Probably not? Okay, I would have another one.
• 1:55
  Awesome. Well, we'll talk about a little bit more after we've finished
• 1:59
  at least one. Yeah, it's a good start off to the episode.
• 2:02
  Indeed, indeed, we've got to talk about this wind streak that we've got
• 2:07
  going on here. The Vikings have won five in a row. Yeah,
• 2:12
  we just mentioned. You just threw out a little fun little stat pre show.
• 2:15
  The Vikings and the Timberwolves are both on five game win streaks. I
• 2:22
  think the Timberwolves are on a little bit longer of a window. Oh yeah,
• 2:25
  but yeah, my factoid was the last time I got this from Twitter.
• 2:31
  I can't claim that this is original knowledge. All of our knowledge is
• 2:35
  from Twitter, and it's Twitter, not X. It will always be twittered
• 2:40
  until they pay us. Yeah, and then even then it'll be hard to
• 2:45
  not say Twitter. Oh yeah. I mean, if they pay us,
• 2:47
  it'll be X all the way publicly. But you know, anyways, the
• 2:53
  factoid that I learned today was the last time that the Timberwolves and the Vikings
• 2:58
  both had wind streaks of five games or more. It was two thousand and
• 3:01
  five. Wow. So geez, two thousand and five, we were we
• 3:07
  didn't even have driver's license yet, we were fourteen. That was that was
• 3:12
  a while ago. That was almost twenty years ago, eighteen years ago.
• 3:15
  That's crazy. I see the picture pop up every once in a while when
• 3:21
  both the Timberwolves and the Vikings have like a like a really good, you
• 3:25
  know, franchise player. Because back in the day, we have that iconic
• 3:30
  picture I think it was a Sports Illustrated cover or whatever, of Randy Moss
• 3:35
  and Kevin Garnett wearing each other's jerseys like spinning each other's sports ball in their
• 3:42
  hands, and like, you know, Minnesota, we got we got some
• 3:46
  superstars here. And I've seen that kind of pop up every once in a
• 3:49
  while. I think there was an Adrian Peterson version of it one time,
• 3:53
  but then again, I don't know who the who the Timberwolve would have been
• 3:55
  back in eighth nine whatever, But the current one is JJ and Anthony Edwards
• 4:02
  and that's the that's the picture we need to see. Let's let's get that
• 4:05
  recreation there, guys. Yeah, Sports Illustrated to get on that. Yeah,
• 4:10
  I'm surprised they haven't recreate that cover. Yeah, I'd buy a copy.
• 4:14
  That'd be fun. Yeah, you know I I probably would too.
• 4:16
  I can't say that I'm a huge Timberwolves fan. The Vikings definitely have most
• 4:23
  of my fandom, but I will loosely follow the other Minnesota sports. I
• 4:28
  have joked before. Well, so I'm the same as you, gigantic Vikings
• 4:31
  fan. But if I'm gonna root for another professional team, it's gonna be
• 4:38
  a Minnesota based team if there's an option. Although, like if the Twins
• 4:42
  lose on a random day, it's not gonna ruin my day. I might
• 4:46
  not even know the Timberwolves lose. That's all they've ever done in my entire
• 4:49
  lifetime. I'm not a huge basketball fan, so like I don't really care
• 4:53
  too much, but if they start doing good, you better believe I'm gonna
• 4:56
  be the biggest Timberwolves fan in the world if they make it to the playoffs
• 4:59
  and they start doing some fun stuff. But that's not till what may June.
• 5:03
  Yeah, it's a ways away. We got some time. We got
• 5:06
  time. We got college basketball to worry about first, and even then for
• 5:11
  me, college I got you know, you gotta get to March for me
• 5:14
  to start caring about college. If if our alma mater is doing all right,
• 5:18
  my ears will perk up. I was doing okay, I'll kind of
• 5:21
  pay attention. But you and I have basketball. You watch out for them
• 5:25
  this year. They could be they could be pretty good. They could be
• 5:28
  uh yeah, it's been I didn't go last season. We went to the
• 5:31
  final game of the season two two years ago when we won the Outright Conference
• 5:36
  regular season regular season. Yeah, and then and then we laid an egg
• 5:41
  in the tournament. But oh well, But we don't have to talk about
• 5:45
  losing teams right now, because our favorite team is a winning team right now.
• 5:48
  Six and four. Yeah, both last week in the one game and
• 5:53
  overall in this season. They have a freaking winning record, which is a
• 5:58
  far cry from what we thought they would be after the O and three start.
• 6:01
  I mean, we have been on so much of a roller coaster ride
• 6:05
  this year between oh, preseason, We're gonna win the super Bowl, this
• 6:11
  is Kirk's year quarterback on Netflix, like this is awesome, and then the
• 6:15
  first couple of weeks it's like, geez, when are they gonna start trading
• 6:18
  people? Like is koc gonna get fired? Like what is happening? Burn
• 6:23
  it all down, Let's let's start over and hope for Caleb Williams. And
• 6:27
  then holy cow, Kirk is playing like an MVP and everybody is figuring it
• 6:31
  out. We don't have a run game. We haven't had a run game
• 6:34
  all season, but you know what, it hasn't mattered. The defense is
• 6:36
  figuring it out. And then Kirk just disintegrated on the field, and Josh
• 6:45
  freaking Dobbs has renewed our interest again and kept us us the Viking. But
• 6:51
  even before Dobbs, there's the little wrinkle of Jaron holl In there for like
• 6:56
  for two years. Yeah, in a hot second or two where but like,
• 7:00
  I don't know, it's yeah, you're right, it has been one
• 7:02
  of these where it's just been up and down and up and down. And
• 7:06
  despite the the chaos, they've won five in a row, and they've won
• 7:13
  six of their last seven games. And I believe they're a game and a
• 7:16
  half game and a half mathematically out of the division lead. I think the
• 7:20
  Lions are seven and two, the Vikings are six and four, So the
• 7:24
  Lions have played one less game the Vikings. Their bye week is what week
• 7:29
  thirteen or two more games away? Two games away? We got the Broncos
• 7:32
  this week at Denver and then come home to play the Bears and then buy
• 7:38
  yep. And I believe this upcoming Bears game was my lock to lose and
• 7:43
  your lock to win. So we have to see we haven't really touched on
• 7:46
  our locks, our preseason lock game we have, but we should. Maybe
• 7:49
  we've got it all right behind me. We'll pull that out out. Maybe
• 7:54
  that's a good fodder for the bye week. Yeah, talk about that.
• 7:58
  Also, I believe you've right after the Bears game, we'll have another guest
• 8:03
  on the show on the week after the Bears game to give you a hint.
• 8:09
  We won't announce who it is, but just to give you a hint.
• 8:13
  It's a guest that we've had on the show before. So if you're
• 8:18
  just listening and not watching, I'm winking right now. Yeah, yep.
• 8:20
  So for all of those people that are excited for that person or any of
• 8:26
  the previous guests we've had on the show before, just get prepare yourself,
• 8:31
  get ready, let us know your guests. If you reach out to us
• 8:35
  on social media and let us know who you think our guest is going to
• 8:37
  be. If you're right, maybe we'll send you a sticker. Maybe.
• 8:41
  But yeah, we have winning football. It's been an exciting stretch and it's
• 8:46
  been super fun to watch the team. I mean, there has still been
• 8:54
  frustrating moments. There have still been like the second half this last week against
• 9:01
  the Saints, where we had an outstanding first half and even more specifically and
• 9:05
  more outstanding second quarter. We put up twenty one points in the second quarter
• 9:11
  against the Saints, which is where the game I think was truly one.
• 9:18
  But then we come out of the locker room in the second half and it
• 9:22
  just felt like Koc was just trying not to lose at that point. That
• 9:26
  was frustrating. Run the ball, run the ball, run the ball.
• 9:30
  Punt run, the ball run, the ball run, the ball punt,
• 9:33
  and like there was just no creativity, no excitement, and the Saints almost
• 9:39
  came back. Yeah, I mean they were. It came down to the
• 9:43
  wire, like even down to the point where on one of the vikings last
• 9:48
  drives of the game, like it ended up being a rush by Josh Dobbs
• 9:54
  on a third down play and he kind of tripped, yeah, for like
• 9:56
  it was supposed to be for like three or four yards or even two or
• 10:00
  three and you're right, he like, I don't know if it was a
• 10:03
  broken play or what, but it was like a fake handoff and he kind
• 10:05
  of turned around and tripped forward. And I mean that could have been a
• 10:11
  pivotal player. Thankfully it wasn't. Like it didn't, you know, determine
• 10:13
  the outcome of the game. Well, I saw they're a handful of people
• 10:18
  on Twitter that do a lot of replays and they get access to the like
• 10:22
  end zone cam and all the different other cameras around the building, and that
• 10:28
  play specifically, somebody mentioned that if he doesn't fall, he's got an open
• 10:33
  lane. He could have taken it all the way. Could have highly unlikely,
• 10:39
  But I mean, who knows it was a busted play because he goes
• 10:43
  down tripping over his own shoelace or who knows what just air I'm pretty sure,
• 10:48
  but I'm pretty sure on that play, all he had to do was
• 10:52
  get a first down and it would have been game over, right, no
• 10:54
  timeouts for the Saints. Kneel the ball, run out the clock, game
• 11:00
  over. You're right, but yeah, that set up a fourth down and
• 11:03
  a punt that got the ball back in the Saints' hands, and they had
• 11:07
  what fifteen seconds or something like that, Yeah, something like that to try
• 11:11
  and do something with Jamis Winston because Derek Carr had gone out with shoulder in
• 11:16
  concussion. Yeah, which you hope he's okay. But I think that was
• 11:20
  a turning point for the Saints. I don't know. I mean, obviously
• 11:24
  the quarterbacks play a little bit differently. I don't know if they just you're
• 11:30
  never too lucky in the NFL. Usually like things happened for a reason.
• 11:35
  But if Jamis had some lucky throws, I mean, he did throw two
• 11:39
  late game interceptions which probably sealed it for the Vikings. I think at that
• 11:45
  point he was just trying to force it downfield to make a play. Yeah,
• 11:48
  which has been his play style his entire career. Gunslinger. He throws
• 11:54
  a beautiful deep ball. It's just he's also gonna throw Did he throw a
• 11:58
  thirty interceptions one year? Remember twenty plus interceptions? He had that beautiful touchdown
• 12:05
  to Was it a Lave that in the back corn? Yeah, it reminded
• 12:09
  me of the almost touchdown that Jordan Addison had earlier in the game. It's
• 12:13
  just Olave's was I mean, there was no question about it. That was
• 12:16
  a touchdown, beautiful past, beautiful catch, and you couldn't have defended it
• 12:22
  any better. I think it was Byron Murphy Junior on that play. He
• 12:24
  couldn't have been in a better position. It's just sometimes that's how it works.
• 12:28
  Like, yeah, the offense, they get paid twos. So anyways,
• 12:33
  uh, you know, late in the game, not even late in
• 12:35
  the game, just in the second half in general, very vanilla play calling.
• 12:41
  It It ended up being a lot closer than it should have been.
• 12:43
  I also wonder speaking of that Olave catch and then you brought up the Addison
• 12:50
  what could have been catch? Coach, he challenged that Jordan Addison and we
• 12:58
  saw pretty clearly on TV replay that he had his feet in bounds, but
• 13:05
  then once he hit the ground, he didn't survive the ground and the ball
• 13:07
  came out. And so my question with that play is one, you've got
• 13:15
  to have somebody in the booth watching the same replays that we're watching at home,
• 13:20
  like with if not, you know, better access to to every even
• 13:24
  more stuff that we can't see. Right, So the question I have first
• 13:28
  is did coach just like, did he think he had a better perspective on
• 13:33
  it? And he's like, no, he got that, he got that,
• 13:35
  and that's why he threw the red flag. And then my other question
• 13:39
  is that was pretty early on in the game. I think that was first
• 13:43
  or second quarter. It was definitely in the first half. That's pretty early
• 13:48
  to be challenging something when we had pretty good control of the game. Yeah,
• 13:52
  at that point, I mean, why are you going to challenge something
• 13:54
  there that you could potentially lose and then you end up losing a challenge and
• 14:03
  a time out for later on in the game when it could really matter.
• 14:07
  It seemed like maybe there with that particular instance, there were some things that
• 14:11
  could have gone better that Kevin O'Connell could have done a little differently to net
• 14:18
  a different outcome. They may have been more positive, for sure. This
• 14:22
  kind of reminds me. I think soon after O'Connell was hired as the head
• 14:26
  coach over a year ago now, there was some news story that came out
• 14:33
  that basically O'Connell was also going to hire like a clock management liaison or like
• 14:41
  somebody to help him out, somebody to be up in the booth to kind
• 14:43
  of give him that analytic, you know, information on a play by play
• 14:48
  basis. And I feel like last season, obviously a million things went right
• 14:54
  for the Vikings to go and win thirteen games and Koc's first year, but
• 14:58
  I feel like we weren't talking about like these mischallenges as much. And he's
• 15:05
  KOs He's never been perfect with clock management, but I feel like it's just
• 15:09
  it wasn't like such a detrimental thing that we noticed it too much. So
• 15:15
  I wonder if if that one person or a couple of people that were hired
• 15:20
  to help with the analytics and potentially be a person in the booth to be
• 15:24
  like, yeah, no, challenge it, it's we got a good shot
• 15:26
  at getting this challenge. Wonder if it's the same person or if they've put
• 15:31
  somebody else in that role, or if they've eliminated that role or whatever,
• 15:35
  that'd be interesting to find out and see if they still have that eye in
• 15:39
  the sky for Koc just to help him out with those gut punch decisions in
• 15:43
  the heat of the battle. Yeah, And I would feel like as a
• 15:46
  head coach, when you have a million different things happening all at once and
• 15:50
  you have to make a decision literally within thirty five seconds, like you've got
• 15:58
  to have other people looking at all of those different aspects of the game and
• 16:02
  giving you the information you need so that you can make the best decision possible.
• 16:06
  Yeah, exactly. Like I know if it were me, which I'm
• 16:08
  never gonna be a head coach of anything, but if it were me and
• 16:11
  I just had someone I knew in my ear, Like let's say a fourth
• 16:15
  down is coming up, and it's kind of like should I go for it?
• 16:18
  Should we not? If I had somebody in my ear say, hey,
• 16:22
  it looks like there's a thirty percent chance of winning the game if you
• 16:26
  make this fourth down, then at least you know and you can still make
• 16:30
  the decision like, yeah, that's that's good for me, Or hey,
• 16:33
  if you don't make this first down. On this fourth down play, you
• 16:37
  have a two percent chance of winning, Like, nah, maybe you punt
• 16:41
  it. I don't know, Like it's only gonna help you, not that
• 16:44
  that person in the booth makes the decision, but they can make it easier
• 16:48
  at least feeds you the information so that you can make a better decision than
• 16:52
  just like oh, yeah, we'll just go for it and whatever. So
• 16:56
  so yeah, I don't know if they still have that person in the booth
• 16:59
  or wherever, or you know, whoever, or if it's the same one
• 17:02
  or what's going on, but it does seem to be a little bit more
• 17:04
  noticeable. And maybe it's just you know, the ball has bounced a different
• 17:08
  way in the last few games, and it did in those similar situations last
• 17:12
  season. With that Addison catch in particular, I remember watching it live and
• 17:18
  thinking, oh, he caught that. He caught that, and the initial
• 17:21
  replay didn't show the ball popping out once he hit the ground, and so
• 17:25
  I'm thinking like, oh, good challenge, good challenge, And then right
• 17:27
  before they cut to commercial break, you see the ball pop out and you're
• 17:32
  just like, ah, yeah, there's one camera angle that had a playing
• 17:36
  his day a shot of the ball popping out, and then I mean that's
• 17:38
  when everybody on Twitter's just saying like that was a bad challenge. That was
• 17:42
  a bad challenge. Why did he challenge that? I mean, it didn't
• 17:47
  end up really affecting the game too much. He did challenge another play in
• 17:52
  the second half that ended up like not hurting the Vikings. They won the
• 17:56
  challenge, but it benefited the Saints more. It was kind of a weird
• 18:02
  challenge. Yeah, it was like it only benefited the Vikings because after they
• 18:06
  threw the challenge flag, was like, oh crap, because I think it
• 18:08
  was it looked like a catch and then a fumble with a clear recovery by
• 18:15
  the Vikings. But then after they threw the Vikings through the challenge flag,
• 18:19
  it became pretty clear because on the field they had called it as an incomplete
• 18:22
  pass and Alvin Kamerica kind of bobbled ca America Camara kind of bobbled it,
• 18:27
  and then so they ruled it on the field to be an incomplete pass,
• 18:33
  and Koc I'm pretty sure, was like, nope, that was a catch
• 18:36
  and a fumble and we recovered it. So challenge flag, which when you're
• 18:41
  playing Madden. Of course, that's what you that's what you're gonna do.
• 18:44
  But it ended up being that they determined it was a catch and he was
• 18:49
  down by contact and by then lost the ball, and he was down his
• 18:55
  butt hit the ground like a fraction of a fraction of a second before the
• 19:00
  ball popped out, which is where like even in replay, it was tough
• 19:03
  to see, and that's why it took that one took forever to process and
• 19:08
  took forever for the officials to kind of come to a conclusion on what had
• 19:12
  actually happened. And that was a better challenge in my opinion. Yeah,
• 19:18
  I think you have a strong case here. It ended up benefiting the Saints
• 19:22
  more because they got the completed catch as opposed to an incomplete pass or whatever
• 19:29
  they had originally ruled on the field, but because the Vikings technically won the
• 19:33
  challenge because the ruling was changed, so the Vikings technically won it. They
• 19:37
  didn't what was it. They didn't lose their time out, they didn't lose
• 19:40
  a time out. But because KOs had lost his first challenge in the first
• 19:45
  half, that was his final challenge of the game. Yeah, you only
• 19:48
  get an extra challenge if you win too, So yeah, maybe they just
• 19:55
  that's another part of looking at your your own self and scouting yourself and figuring
• 19:59
  out you can do better. When you're starting quarterback is a guy that has
• 20:04
  been there what fifteen days at this point today as of the recording of this
• 20:11
  episode, you probably have bigger things to think about if that's your situation.
• 20:15
  But as long as you're winning, I don't care if you win by one
• 20:19
  point or two points like the Broncos did last night two nights ago, or
• 20:25
  if you win by two hundred points like that still goes as one one win.
• 20:30
  So if you can mess up and still be winning, then that gives
• 20:33
  you the leash to figure out how to fix those mistakes. Well, let's
• 20:37
  talk about this for a second. The Vikings are one of the least penalized
• 20:41
  teams in the league this season. That's huge, very huge, very disciplined,
• 20:45
  very focused. They're just not making those silly mistakes and at least they're
• 20:52
  not getting caught. One big thing is when Dalton Reisner, you know,
• 20:56
  you know, Chad Greenway leg kicks it two hundred feet in the air.
• 21:00
  He's lucky when he doesn't kick somebody in the face because that would have been
• 21:04
  a penalty. That video was hilarious and him on the sidelm like almost almost
• 21:11
  kicked that guy in the face. What a great addition to our team.
• 21:17
  I yeah, as of right now, I hope they resign Dalton Reisner.
• 21:19
  I assume his contract is up at the end of the year. Yeah,
• 21:23
  there's there's that'll be a fun talker towards the end of the year, like
• 21:27
  looking at the guys who will be free agents and who the Vikings should sign
• 21:33
  and who they shouldn't, and then that'll be that'll be a fun episode for
• 21:36
  us. But yeah, as of right now, I want Reisner to be
• 21:40
  at least a few more years with the Vikings. He's doing good, he's
• 21:44
  yeah, he's playing great and I think he's I think honestly ed Ingram's playing
• 21:49
  better because he's there potentially, And yeah, maybe they just lucked into timing
• 21:55
  of ed Ingram figuring some stuff out and getting luckier than not. I don't
• 22:00
  know. Something has worked and that offensive line has been incredible, which,
• 22:06
  again, when you're starting quarterback is a guy who has been in town for
• 22:10
  two weeks, that's such a luxury to have to to know that for the
• 22:15
  most part, your lineup front is going to hold up and he Josh Dobbs
• 22:18
  had so much time. Yeah, and even on the times that he lost,
• 22:23
  you know, he didn't have much time or he you know, held
• 22:26
  it along a little too long in the pocket, he only got sacked once.
• 22:30
  Yeah, And I mean we're used to seeing two three four sacks a
• 22:36
  game on Kirk Cousins. And that's not throwing shade at Kirk Cousins. That's
• 22:41
  different the reality of, you know, your traditional pocket passer versus a guy
• 22:45
  who can get out and run and make plays on his feet, which Josh
• 22:52
  Dobbs continued to do. I've seen regarding Dobbs and his like his ceiling and
• 23:00
  where he is in his career and where he could be. And I've even
• 23:04
  said I think on this podcast, like I don't I don't see him becoming
• 23:08
  out of nowhere a Pro Bowl type quarterback just because look where he's been and
• 23:15
  look what he hasn't done already. But looking at it, he's never really
• 23:18
  gotten an opportunity. His first couple of years, he was a backup behind
• 23:23
  Ben Roethlisberger. Like even you know, retiring Ben Roethlisberger is not somebody who's
• 23:30
  going to lose his job to a young journeyman, you know, rookie type
• 23:33
  quarterback. And then everywhere he's been. I mean, you can see the
• 23:38
  joke about where he's been in the last calendar year. What five teams?
• 23:42
  He's been to Cleveland twice? Yeah, and who where else has he even
• 23:48
  been? He was a Jaguar. I saw something. There's a picture of
• 23:51
  Jacksonville Jaguar quarterbacks Josh Dabs, Nick Foles, and Gardner Minshew all on the
• 23:56
  same team at the same time. It was a fun wow. Where else
• 24:00
  was he? Was he in Houston? No, Tennessee, Tennessee? I
• 24:04
  think so Tennessee. I believe the Vikings, Cardinals, and Titans are the
• 24:11
  only teams he started for. Okay, but he's been with Cleveland twice.
• 24:15
  Yeah, and he his last stint was just an off season deal. Which
• 24:19
  that's kind of an interesting, like sub storyline with Deshaun Watson going down with
• 24:25
  the season ending injury this last week, so great. I love it so
• 24:29
  much. If anybody needs to have his ability to play football taken away,
• 24:34
  it's that dude. Well. I think what's more ironic for the Browns is
• 24:40
  Dobbs is now playing well, yeah, I mean as a starter somewhere else.
• 24:45
  He is the NFL's cover photo right now. Like the joke was that
• 24:48
  he usurped Taylor Swift as the cover photo on the NFL's pages. Like that's
• 24:55
  awesome, hey man, more power to you. Yeah, any any any
• 24:59
  reason and to not talk about Taylor Swift, which I'm doing right now.
• 25:03
  So whatever, playing into it, Josh Stabs. But to kind of go
• 25:07
  back to my point, Dobbs has never really gotten a major opportunity other than
• 25:14
  yeah, he started like the last two games with the Titans a couple seasons
• 25:17
  ago, and then what eight games with the Cardinals and they won one of
• 25:22
  those games. I'm gonna chalk that up to the Cardinals being a garbage organization.
• 25:30
  We see all these videos. I tweeted about it earlier. I like
• 25:32
  retweeted one of the vikings videos of like Byron Murphy and Harrison Smith. It
• 25:37
  was after Byron Murphy's intersected that was such a cool video, and h Harrison
• 25:41
  Smith walked up. He's like, congrats, man, did you see me?
• 25:44
  Did you hear me yelling you? You? Like? And Byron Murphy
• 25:47
  retweeted that, like yeah, Harry in the play was like, no,
• 25:49
  you take this, you take this, Like Harrison Smith could have easily taken
• 25:52
  it. Oh yeah, didn't stepped back and let his teammate take the interception.
• 25:56
  Yep. Yeah, so cool. But that just highlight I feel like,
• 26:00
  as an outsider who's never set foot in the Bikings locker room, I
• 26:03
  feel like those guys play for each other. Well, that locker room is
• 26:07
  so cohesive right now. Another cool moment was game balls after the game in
• 26:15
  the locker room and coach gives a game ball to Ty Chandler and he had
• 26:22
  that touchdown pulled off the board because of the Brian O'Neill holding penalty, And
• 26:26
  Brian O'Neill comes up to him and puts his hand around him and goes,
• 26:29
  I owe you one man, Like you're right, these guys are playing for
• 26:33
  each other. And I said it last week, and I think I've even
• 26:37
  said it in previous weeks. Like the culture of this team is built different
• 26:41
  than any other team in the league that I've seen. And we only really
• 26:47
  closely follow the Vikings, so we can't speak knowledgeably about all thirty one other
• 26:52
  teams in the league. But I truly think that the brotherly love that this
• 26:57
  team has makes it makes it different, and it's the reason they've been so
• 27:03
  resilient through an zero to three start, a one and four start, losing
• 27:07
  their starting quarterback, losing Justin Jefferson, which, by the way, they've
• 27:10
  won five in a row without him, Yeah, which is unbelievable, losing
• 27:15
  playing a few games without Darrisaw and a lot of other injuries that I mean,
• 27:22
  we don't have time to mention, probably because it would take the rest
• 27:25
  of the episode. Jordan Hicks went down this last week. That'll be a
• 27:29
  big hit for the defense. I mean, just blow after blow after blow,
• 27:36
  and here they are six and four. Yeah, it's incredible. Yeah,
• 27:40
  And all that to go back to Dobbs and his other biggest opportunity as
• 27:45
  a starter with Arizona. You just the meat. What we hear about the
• 27:49
  Cardinals from you know, our seats here in Iowa is the organization, like
• 27:55
  they make you pay for lunch and the head coaches. Now that great and
• 28:00
  obviously they're a losing team right now, and who's the quarterback? Blah blah
• 28:03
  blah. How would anyone thrive in that that locker room in that situation?
• 28:11
  And maybe it's just jobbs getting out of that situation and being like, I
• 28:15
  have to focus one hundred percent on football, so we're reaping the benefits of
• 28:19
  that. It's been fun to listen to Dalton Riisner talk oh yeah, post
• 28:23
  game locker room interviews, just like he talks about that, and he's very
• 28:29
  open and transparent. And I think I think it was the Vikings were two
• 28:36
  and four, so it would have been after Week six, whoever they played
• 28:41
  that week. Anyways, he made the comment to whoever was interviewing and just
• 28:47
  said, we're not a two and four team. I've been on a two
• 28:51
  and four team the last three seasons, referring to the Broncos, which,
• 28:56
  oh yeah, good talker this week. Oh yeah, it's kind of a
• 29:00
  storyline. But he said that this team is not like those teams. This
• 29:04
  team is different. And I've really appreciated his perspective this season, and I've
• 29:10
  watched several of those postgame interviews in the locker room because he brings that kind
• 29:17
  of fresh perspective. He hasn't been around, He wasn't there last year.
• 29:22
  He doesn't know Kevin O'Connell or these guys as well as those that have been
• 29:26
  around for a year to do so, Yeah, it's just been fun to
• 29:30
  kind of get his perspective as a newcomer to the team. Yeah, and
• 29:37
  yeah, we gush on our perspective of what we think the locker room is
• 29:41
  like and what we think as outsiders it's like to work with that coaching staff
• 29:47
  and how everybody feels in that area and that facility every day. Honestly,
• 29:52
  we can't know, I mean, as I say about Kirk Cousins all the
• 29:56
  time, unless it's all in act, you know, like unless all this
• 30:00
  media stuff that's coming out in these interviews, unless it's all fake for some
• 30:04
  cameras, which would be extremely hard to do for a professional football team to
• 30:08
  like have to put on a happy face during these locker room interactions. It
• 30:15
  I think it speaks volumes to the GM and mostly the coach. I think
• 30:18
  koc it starts with him to bring that energy and that leadership to make it
• 30:27
  a good place for these players to go every day, a good place to
• 30:32
  go to work, you know, and to be happy and to be a
• 30:34
  good teammate. He was, He was miked up. Kevin O'Connell was miked
• 30:38
  up. Did you watch any of that? I saw some I saw the
• 30:41
  like arms out, like what the heck after Josh DAAs had that crazy rushing
• 30:47
  touchdown. That was that was awesome. I I wish we could have been
• 30:52
  in the stadium when that happened. That place had to have been electric.
• 30:56
  Yeah, it probably similar to when we watched Hirt Cousins on I think the
• 31:03
  last longest Vikings touched quarterback quarterback touchdown against the Cardinals when we were there,
• 31:08
  yeah last season. Yeah, so which that was electric. But I can't
• 31:11
  even imagine it's got to be a whole enlightened sense of excitement in that stadium
• 31:18
  right now with Josh Dabbs, like for sure, for sure. Anyways,
• 31:22
  Uh, just a plug for anybody listening in for you go and listen to
• 31:27
  the whole Kevin O'Connell they did like the Vikings did on YouTube, like a
• 31:33
  like a combo video between Harrison's Phillips, Harris Phillips and KOs They were both
• 31:40
  miked up against the Saints at home, and both were worth listening to.
• 31:45
  But it was it was really fun to of course, they're not going to
• 31:48
  like publish any of the actual play calls that Chaos gives, but you could
• 31:56
  just hear just the like the calm cool collect did like he's talking to Josh
• 32:00
  Dobbs in his headset and he's just like, you need to play again.
• 32:04
  All right, here you go, man, I did see that. Just
• 32:07
  give you again. He just he's not rattled, he's not phased, he's
• 32:10
  not mad, he's not upset. He's like, all right, here we
• 32:15
  go. And I mean just you know, giving him options like, hey,
• 32:20
  you've got checkdowns if you need them, use your feet if you need
• 32:22
  to, like just go out and do what you need to do. Man,
• 32:27
  a lot of trust, which was fun to see. Well. I
• 32:31
  tweeted during the game that I feel like Chaos is it's out of necessity,
• 32:38
  but I feel like he is unlocking a whole new enjoyment, a whole new
• 32:45
  skill set out of being a play caller and a coach. When it comes
• 32:50
  to a quarterback that's been there for less than two weeks, I feel like
• 32:54
  Chaos has to read the field more from the sidelines as if he were the
• 33:02
  quarterback. And it's only helping that Koc did play NFL quarterback. I think
• 33:10
  I saw last week or this week he had a quote where it's basically like,
• 33:19
  yeah, you can be the best classroom quarterback in the world. You
• 33:22
  can be a Hall of Famer in the classroom and even to step out on
• 33:25
  the field and read the defense and be able to perfectly know exactly what's gonna
• 33:30
  happen and everything go perfectly right. But maybe you just can't make that throw
• 33:36
  to score a touchdown, and maybe you'll never you'll know, I have to
• 33:39
  throw it right here, right now, at this perfect time. And if
• 33:44
  I do that every single time because I'm reading the defense, it's gonna be
• 33:46
  a touchdown. We're gonna win the game. But maybe you just can't make
• 33:50
  that throw. And he even said, like I just, you know,
• 33:52
  a lot of times I just couldn't make that throw. But that's a huge
• 33:55
  difference between like he could have been a Hall of Famer, you know,
• 33:59
  as far as the classroom part of being a quarterback goes, the pre snap
• 34:02
  reads, the game planning. He could have been, you know, the
• 34:07
  greatest of all time. And he didn't say that he could have been.
• 34:09
  I'm just saying, but if you can't make that throw, and then you
• 34:14
  gotta find you got to become a coach and then find the guy that can
• 34:16
  make that throw and teach him how to read the field that way, which
• 34:20
  I feel like that's kind of what we're seeing with Koc. And then there
• 34:24
  he seems to be okay with like, hey, here's your read, here's
• 34:28
  the play. If it breaks down, you know what to do. Just
• 34:30
  go run it, like we'll live to see another down and maybe you'll run
• 34:35
  for an almost twenty yard touchdown, like you just never know. I think
• 34:38
  you mentioned this before we started recording, but you had a theory that maybe
• 34:44
  the Dobbs rushing touchdown was something that Koc had drawn up that he was really
• 34:52
  hoping to see and it wasn't the Dobbs rushing touchdown. Well, yeah,
• 34:54
  if you if you watch that, like you said the Vikings YouTube clip,
• 35:00
  as he's like watching the play happen, you just see KOs like what what's
• 35:05
  going on? Like what he's running? What? And then he scores a
• 35:08
  touchdown. The stadium goes nuts, and Ko he doesn't look mad, but
• 35:12
  he's head like what and whoever he's talking to in his headset, he's like,
• 35:17
  did you did you see that? Like he just pointed that way and
• 35:20
  he just ran for a touchdown, like what? And then as Dobbs is
• 35:23
  running to the sideline. He just puts his arms on it, like what
• 35:27
  do you do it? Like wow, Like okay, like we'll go for
• 35:30
  it. Hey, we got six there. It almost seemed like obviously he
• 35:34
  wasn't mad about a touchdown, but like it almost seemed like maybe he had
• 35:38
  drawn up and called at the perfect time, like he was waiting for this
• 35:43
  defense to show up a certain way in this part of the field, and
• 35:46
  he called what he thought was the perfect play. He's like, Oh,
• 35:49
  it's gonna be perfect. It's gonna be a end zone like a touchdown on
• 35:52
  the off shoulder of this and it's gonna be amazing. I'm gonna get so
• 35:57
  much praise for this play call. And then like that doesn't happen at all,
• 36:00
  but it's still a touchdown and all you have to do is like okay,
• 36:04
  like let's go, Like you have to be happy about that. Yeah,
• 36:07
  And he'll he'll never be the guy that's like, oh, I did
• 36:09
  have the perfect play. Yeah, No, it did break down, and
• 36:13
  now he'll just be like, no, Josh made a great play. Yeah.
• 36:15
  And to your point too, even if you know Josh starts around and
• 36:20
  he loses thirty yards, maybe we'd see the sideline video of him like,
• 36:24
  Josh, what are you doing? You had you could have thrown this wey
• 36:27
  or throw it away, like, but he would have never gone to the
• 36:30
  press conference after the game been like yeah, I had the perfect play called
• 36:32
  like it just it is what it is. Well, and we've seen CHAOSI
• 36:37
  like put his arm around Kirk because I think something we've seen with Kirk Cousins
• 36:40
  in the last handful of years is he he gets a little bit of a
• 36:44
  hot head. Oh yeah, when when games get really really intense and maybe
• 36:49
  he throws a pick or something happens that ends a drive and he's got to
• 36:52
  come off the maybe throws an incomplete pass or whatever. I can think of
• 36:57
  a handful of instances where Kirk has just been frustrated visibly, like you can
• 37:02
  almost see the steam coming off of his head as he's walking off the sideline,
• 37:07
  and you just you never see Koc freak out. Now he puts his
• 37:13
  arm around him, like, Hey, it's all right, We'll make it
• 37:15
  work. It's okay, calm down. I think the most angry and sure
• 37:20
  if we really you know, paid attention to him at every second of every
• 37:23
  game for his entire career, so far. We could point out like one
• 37:28
  thing where he's like he freaked out right there. But I think the most
• 37:30
  angry he's ever seemed as the Vikings head coach, at least publicly, was
• 37:37
  one of his press conferences earlier in the season where he's talking about guys fumbling
• 37:40
  and he's like, yeah, it's a problem we need to fix and if
• 37:43
  we can't, then we need to get some other guys in there that can
• 37:45
  you fix this problem. And we haven't seen as many fumbles since then.
• 37:52
  Yep, So that problem has resolved itself for the most part, which is
• 37:57
  good. Dang it, Evan, where's the wood? We've got plenty.
• 38:00
  Yeah, there you go. Because to talk about the Broncos game like,
• 38:06
  that's one of the huge reasons the Bills one of the better teams in the
• 38:08
  league. They lost to the Broncos a couple of days ago, is because
• 38:13
  they couldn't stop turning the ball over. I think they turned they fumbled it.
• 38:17
  James Cook fumbled it on the first offensive played the game. Yeah,
• 38:22
  and then he got bench for a little bit, and to his credit,
• 38:24
  he came out and he started running like a maniac and had close to one
• 38:29
  hundred yards, if not one hundred yards. But Josh Allen, what do
• 38:32
  you throw it? Two picks, three picks, something like that. Yeah,
• 38:36
  they just they couldn't stop turning the ball over and ultimately they lost by
• 38:40
  two points. Even I mean the this isn't a Bills podcast, but even
• 38:45
  to the point that it came down to a last second field goal attempt for
• 38:52
  the Broncos, because the Broncos were down by one and it was something like
• 38:57
  a what thirty ish yard field goal? They came out, clock was running,
• 39:00
  no timeouts left. I think it was a little bit longer initially,
• 39:05
  Yeah, well yeah, yeah, but yeah. They rushed the field goal
• 39:10
  team out and set everything up and barely missed the kick. Will Lutz barely
• 39:16
  missed that kick. It was wider right by, like it seemed like a
• 39:20
  yard. And then all of a sudden, oh no, the Bills messed
• 39:23
  up. They pulled the Vikings and there were twelve men on the field,
• 39:27
  and if not for that one mistake, compiled by all the other mistakes throughout
• 39:31
  the game, the Bills send the Broncos home as losers. But so the
• 39:37
  Vikings going up against the Broncos need to keep their mistakes in check. You
• 39:44
  mentioned earlier. They're one of the least penalized teams in the league. They
• 39:47
  need to keep that up. Yeah, the turnovers, which they're prone to
• 39:52
  turn the ball over, they need to continue to not turn the ball over.
• 39:55
  Josh Dobbs fumbled it three times in his first game, you know,
• 40:00
  over a week ago. I don't think he had any fumbles against the Saints.
• 40:04
  We didn't turn the ball over, which you said, if the Vikings
• 40:07
  don't turn the ball over, they'll win the game. Well, here we
• 40:09
  are. They finally completed a game without a turnover and they won the game.
• 40:15
  Yeah, so prove me right. You know, it's a small sample
• 40:16
  size, but yeah, and I mean I think traveling to Denver presents some
• 40:23
  interesting challenges. Playing at altitude is different. Playing outside in the middle of
• 40:30
  November in Denver is different. It'll be cold probably, And then playing on
• 40:37
  Sunday night primetime that's different too. Oh yeah, that a whole different set
• 40:44
  of variables there. And then you add in the wrinkle that the Broncos are
• 40:50
  riding this three game win streak themselves. I like how you said they're riding
• 40:54
  it. That's right, so bad. I hate Russell Wilson, just because
• 41:02
  he's so cheesy and I feel like he's a robot. And what was what
• 41:07
  it was his video that he posted this week? He like, I forget
• 41:12
  what buzzword he used, but he used some buzzword. This is how bad
• 41:15
  it was. I don't even remember what it was. But he's like,
• 41:20
  you know, selfie like at his house by his pool or whatever, Like,
• 41:24
  was it the unlimited thing? That's what it was. That's from a
• 41:28
  few years ago. Oh really, I thought I'd never even seen it,
• 41:31
  so I thought it was from like this week. No, it's it's so
• 41:35
  cringey because he's like, I've been thinking about what my alter ego should be.
• 41:39
  Yeah, you know, if you're gonna be awesome, you're gonna be
• 41:42
  unlimited. Like you're gonna be mister Unlimited. I don't care who you are,
• 41:47
  how many millions of dollars you make. You're not cool if you say
• 41:52
  that you are mister unlimited. Like so annoying, Like I'd hate myself for
• 41:57
  just saying that right now. And yeah, he seems like not a real
• 42:01
  person like R two D two or C three po like his his AI hasn't
• 42:07
  been figured out quite right. And I just hope he doesn't tear up the
• 42:13
  Vikings secondary well, hopefully the Vikings defensive line can get after him and put
• 42:19
  him in at there quite a bit. Yeah, get Daniel some some runtime.
• 42:22
  DJ wantam how good has he been looking? My goodness, both of
• 42:27
  those guys coming off the edge have looked great. And and the Vikings picked
• 42:32
  up previously number fifty five now number fifty four mm hm Anthony Barr. Yeah,
• 42:39
  Yeah, that's that's intriguing. It seems kind of like another Madden move.
• 42:45
  But when you lose a guy like Jordan Hicks for who knows how long,
• 42:50
  they've kind of I mean, they've said that Jordan Hicks is what's the
• 42:53
  the the injury. He so he had compartment syndrome, which, if I
• 42:59
  understand it directly, it's swelling within a compartment in your muscle where like it
• 43:07
  can't like expand, and so generally, for most people, compartment syndrome isn't
• 43:15
  gonna be super bad. It just means you need to stop being active for
• 43:19
  a while. But in his situation, it was like, yeah, we
• 43:22
  need to operate on this right away, or like it could get way way
• 43:27
  worse. Yeah, they made it sound like had they not acted as quickly
• 43:31
  as they did, it could have become severe. So ultimately, I mean,
• 43:36
  as far as health wise, he's gonna be okay, But I don't
• 43:39
  know if that means he misses well, no, they put him on IR
• 43:43
  didn't. Hey, Yeah, so he's out for four weeks at least.
• 43:45
  Yeah, so, but for initially it was kind of confusing and even now,
• 43:50
  like is it four weeks or is it like the whole season? You
• 43:53
  don't know. And you definitely felt it against the Saints when he came off
• 43:59
  the field. Well that's really when they were able to kind of come back
• 44:04
  and make some plays. And yeah, and he's definitely the he's the captain.
• 44:12
  I mean, he's the what is the term that they use for the
• 44:16
  one with the headset? Is he the mic? They call him? Well,
• 44:21
  he wears the green dot the green dots, I say so, I
• 44:23
  think he's Is he an inside linebacker because it's three four defense? The MIC
• 44:28
  would be the middle linebacker, sure, but I think he's just the defense.
• 44:34
  He's one of the two listed inside linebackers because the outside would be Daniel
• 44:39
  and shoot, I don't even know Patrick Jones. I'm not sure who we
• 44:44
  should know this, but yeah, like you said, Vikings signed former Viking
• 44:52
  pro bowler Anthony Barr, so this might be one of the better defenses he
• 44:58
  enters into. I think. I think even coming out of college, they
• 45:00
  kept saying, like Anthony Barr, he's he's better served in the three four
• 45:05
  defense, which for his entire Vikings career, I'm pretty sure they were in
• 45:09
  the four to three defense, which there is a pretty big difference. So
• 45:15
  it'll be interesting to see one if he gets playtime and if he's not just
• 45:21
  a depth guy, which something is wrong if he gets a lot of playtime,
• 45:28
  even this week, because you don't just sign a guy off the street
• 45:30
  who doesn't know He knows the area, he knows the facility, he knows
• 45:35
  some of his teammates, but he doesn't know the defense, like he's never
• 45:37
  played in this defense. Yeah, I wouldn't expect him to play a lot
• 45:42
  this week and probably not even next week against the Bears. But I could
• 45:45
  see him coming out after the bye, after having some time to acclimate to
• 45:50
  this Brian Flores defense and really really get comfortable in the system. Yep.
• 45:57
  Well, and I'm pretty sure he's on the practice squad, so he'd have
• 46:00
  to be elevated. I think even it would be very telling if he was
• 46:05
  elevated for the Broncos game, because then that means they need more bodies in
• 46:10
  there at the linebacker position. So well, and I've said this before,
• 46:15
  and I know he's listed as a safety, but Josh Mntellus man, I
• 46:20
  feel like that guy he's not. He looks bigger than he is in his
• 46:24
  pads on the field. I've looked at his like weight and height. He's
• 46:31
  a little shorter, which makes him look a little stockier maybe, but I
• 46:37
  don't know. He's played that linebacker position effectively before, even though he lines
• 46:43
  up as a safety. And I think that's what's interesting about Brian Flora's defense
• 46:47
  is you got guys coming from all different directions and Flores just thrives on chaos
• 46:54
  and thrives on confusing the opposing offense and confusing the opposing quarterback and that's where
• 47:04
  he finds success. But anyways, Josh Mattellus, I think has effectively played
• 47:09
  that like middle linebacker kind of inside linebacker position before. I heard in Anthony
• 47:20
  Barr's kind of like welcome back press conference they were talking about the double a
• 47:27
  gap blitz and they were like, well, yeah, you used to run
• 47:30
  that all the time with Zimmer when you were here. You know, do
• 47:34
  you think you'll be a part of some of those type of things here with
• 47:37
  the Floras defense. He's like, well, yeah, definitely, blah blah.
• 47:42
  As I'm watching that, I'm just thinking, like we've seen Mattellis in
• 47:45
  that exact situation as a safety coming in on that double a gap blitz and
• 47:52
  being very effective in that role. So I don't know, I feel like,
• 47:57
  even without bar in the next couple of weeks, you've got guys that
• 48:00
  maybe aren't listed as linebackers that can effectively play that position. Yeah. Absolutely,
• 48:08
  I think also to your point the Brian Flores defense, everyone in the
• 48:14
  backfield, so not on the line, everyone in the backfield. They're so
• 48:16
  fluid. There's I mean, you just need to watch a series of Vikings
• 48:21
  defense right now to see how much movement there is pre snap, Like Harrison
• 48:24
  Smith does like six wind sprints before the ball's even snapped, like, and
• 48:30
  that's not just him, They're all moving around and that's the design of the
• 48:32
  defense. Did you see that one play? This was another one of those
• 48:37
  plays where somebody broke it down on Twitter. But Harrison Phillips was lined up
• 48:44
  a little bit to one side of the center and then right before the ball
• 48:49
  is snapped, shifts over. Yeah, and Mattelis was right behind him.
• 48:53
  And if Phillips doesn't shift over whatever video I was watching, I should find
• 49:00
  this to give credit to whom credit is due. But they did a great
• 49:05
  job of breaking down like, Okay, when the offense first comes up to
• 49:08
  the ball, this is who's blocking who based on what the offense is looking
• 49:14
  at. And then Phillips shifts over one guy. One guy moves over over
• 49:20
  the center, and it just blows up the whole play. Mattelis has a
• 49:23
  free shot right at Derek Carr and takes him down. Yeah. Absolutely,
• 49:30
  And I noticed a couple of times that Phillips shift. It's kind of quick,
• 49:35
  kind of violent, and it's like out of nowhere, like you don't
• 49:37
  expect it at all. It's like holy cow, it's almost like like what
• 49:42
  are you doing? And then boom. So he did that a couple of
• 49:44
  times. But I know I did see the same breakdown you saw. I
• 49:47
  want to say that was Will Raggett's I don't think of Twitter, I don't
• 49:52
  think it was him. I think it was somebody else. And there's also
• 49:54
  another guy that's doing a lot of good stuff. I'm gonna butcher his name,
• 49:58
  Layton glow Doc. I've seen some of his stuff too. It's he
• 50:04
  followed us on Twitter. By the way, Yeah, there you go.
• 50:06
  It's not either of those guys. I'd recognize that if I saw it.
• 50:09
  Maybe have to dig through and find it again. I may have bookmarked it
• 50:14
  on Twitter. Anyways, it was it was fascinating to watch because it's like
• 50:17
  man one, one little movement and it's not like Harrison Phillips like went to
• 50:24
  a completely different side of like he just shifted over. One guy could change
• 50:29
  the read of the offensive line blocking system completely you never know, like and
• 50:34
  it was it was so close to the snap that the center nor the quarterback
• 50:39
  had any chance to like adjust. Yep. It was just like boom,
• 50:45
  snap, sack all in and it was just it was beautiful. It was
• 50:50
  just textbook like, Wow, that's something they practice. That was cool to
• 50:53
  watch. And to that point, it took a little bit for the Vikings
• 51:00
  defense to start performing well, and it seems like maybe they just had to
• 51:05
  get down the Brian Flores defense. Obviously they've been doing pretty darn well the
• 51:10
  last handful of games, this whole wind streak. They've been doing okay.
• 51:14
  So when you bring in a new guy like Anthony Barr, or when a
• 51:17
  guy that's been injured starts thinking about coming back, like I'm thinking of Davenport,
• 51:22
  Marcus Davenport. If he does come back, you wonder like, is
• 51:25
  that going to be a hindrance? Like are they up to speed on the
• 51:29
  playbook and the nuance of even the stuff that's not in the playbook, like,
• 51:34
  oh, Harrison Smith telling Byron Murphy like you're in position you you you
• 51:37
  Like that could have been devastating if Harry tells him that and then for whatever
• 51:43
  reason Murphy's not on the same page and drops the interception. Not devastating.
• 51:47
  They probably still win, but like some stuff like that, that whole you
• 51:52
  you you, and then you catch the ball like that's just playing together and
• 51:55
  knowing each other and almost like hereview you without having anybody say it. You
• 52:01
  know, it's chemistry. So hopefully bar gets it up to speed. It'd
• 52:06
  be nice. I like Anthony Barr, I'm excited for the signing, but
• 52:09
  it'd be nice if he doesn't see the field, because that means the likes
• 52:15
  of Ivan Pace and Andre Carter are playing very well, and Josh Mattelis are
• 52:19
  playing very well, and I don't think I think if Anthony Bar gets in,
• 52:23
  that doesn't mean, you know, we have to be concerned about Andre
• 52:27
  Carter or Ivan Pace. But it'd be nice if we didn't have to worry
• 52:30
  about it. I think a lot of Vikings fans would like to see Anthony
• 52:34
  Barr back out there. It will be weird to see him in his college
• 52:37
  teammate and Viking teammates number fifty four. I guess he did reach out and
• 52:42
  got the quote unquote blessing from Eric Kendricks to wear that fifty four, but
• 52:46
  which is kind of a cool story. But that is cool. It will
• 52:50
  be weird, like it's a bar wearing fifty four. Where's he played Anthony
• 52:53
  Barr? I know he was a Cowboy after the Vikings. I think that's
• 52:57
  it. He played last season for the Cowboys and then they released him because
• 53:00
  he got hurt at the end of the last It'd only been one season without
• 53:04
  Anthony Barr. Yeah, wow, Okay, it feels like forever. I
• 53:08
  guess he was a Zimmer guy. He was Zimmer's first draft pick. Not
• 53:13
  that Zimmer was making those draft picks, but yeah, I looked it up
• 53:15
  today. He played from fourteen to twenty one and then played for Dallas last
• 53:21
  year. I think he started ten games played in fourteen or something like that,
• 53:25
  got injured hamstring or something, and then was released interest into the season
• 53:30
  and no one signed him in the off season. Here we are, November
• 53:37
  fifteenth, and he's a Viking again. Hey, I'll take it. So,
• 53:40
  Hey, we're both empty, So yeah, we need to refill quick,
• 53:44
  and then we should talk about the keys to the game, keys to
• 53:47
  this upcoming game. Yes, to the Broncos game. We've kind of touched
• 53:52
  on a few of them. Yeah, we've been fluid in talking about that
• 53:55
  a little bit. You kind of have written down what do we do at
• 54:01
  quarterback? Which I think we both know the answer to that question. Well,
• 54:07
  I just think that's an ongoing conversation, right Like Jaren Hall as of
• 54:12
  today, as of November fifteenth, is still limited in practice, which means
• 54:19
  he's probably not going to play this week. Well, I mean he could
• 54:23
  turn it around. He could still be active, could be and could be
• 54:29
  the backup or theoretically healthy enough to be the backup suit it up, but
• 54:31
  maybe we need the fresh school here. Yeah, let me let me get
• 54:35
  the phone down a little bit. You're I don't know, I'm off my
• 54:38
  game right now, although they say you're supposed to have a hard pore to
• 54:44
  some extent. So this is for the YouTube viewers right now, I've got
• 54:49
  about what two inches of foam here, basically two thirds of your glass,
• 54:54
  yeah, or one third of your glass. It'll it'll figure it out.
• 54:59
  I'm gonna laming on the football glass. But yeah, I think school school
• 55:08
  quarterback situation. Obviously, Josh Dabs he's the starter, I think, the
• 55:14
  unquestioned starter right now. He was on the injury report for today. He
• 55:21
  was a full participant according to the injury report. But apparently there's an ankle
• 55:24
  issue. Let's hope that doesn't turn up anymore. Let's hope tomorrow he's not
• 55:30
  on the injury report. But yeah, I don't think there's any question right
• 55:36
  now. He is the starter until he loses that job. Yeah, I
• 55:39
  don't think there's any question right now in the immediate future. But I mean,
• 55:44
  I mean, what do you do if he has a bad game this
• 55:45
  week? Against Denver and Jaren Hall's healthy, what do you do if he
• 55:50
  has a bad game against Chicago in two weeks and you go into the bye
• 55:53
  week and Jaron Hall's healthy coming back, what do you do. I definitely
• 55:59
  think there's still a little bit of uncertainty there. It's not like it's not
• 56:05
  like when Kirk Cousins went down and it's like, yeah, oh crap,
• 56:08
  what do we do? And I guess at that point we had Jaron Hall
• 56:13
  and it was like, well, we're just gonna roll with him and h
• 56:15
  we'll see what happens. Yeah, but yeah, it's definitely it is Josh
• 56:21
  Dobb's job until he loses it. Yep, I agree, But I don't
• 56:28
  know. You know, there there's a chance that he does lose it,
• 56:31
  and maybe the magic wears off and maybe the pasture nat is grounded. I
• 56:37
  mean that's always a possibility, but I mean even nobody is safe from that.
• 56:43
  I mean, if you know, Dalton Reisinger starts screwing up a bunch,
• 56:47
  he's gonna lose his job. You know, if JJ just suddenly can't
• 56:52
  ever catch a ball again, his leash is only so long, like you're
• 56:58
  JJ's leash is very like right now. But I mean everybody's got a leash,
• 57:04
  right Like, everybody has a certain limit until they lose their job.
• 57:07
  If Kirk this year, if he wouldn't have gotten injured against the Packers and
• 57:12
  he came out and who was the next game against the crap the Falcons.
• 57:17
  If he had been fully healthy and then was a starter again against the Falcons
• 57:22
  and through three interceptions, yeah, I mean you're a little annoyed, but
• 57:28
  you're not. Koc is not going to bench him for one game where he
• 57:31
  throws three interceptions. Now, if he throws three interceptions in one game and
• 57:37
  then another three in another game, and then another three in another game,
• 57:39
  and you're on a losing streak, then even Kirk cousins lease is pretty short.
• 57:45
  Dobbs has earned a little bit of a leash. Kind of came in.
• 57:50
  He was the only option when he came in against the Falcons. I
• 57:53
  mean, I think it was the only healthy quarterback. We were talking about
• 57:55
  Cam Akers coming in as the emergency third guy. But now, like you
• 58:00
  said, I think it's job Dobb's job to lose and to the whole three
• 58:07
  interceptions example, if he comes out against the Broncos and Let's say Jaron Hall
• 58:12
  is fully healthy, and in the first half Dobbs throws three interceptions and has
• 58:16
  like ten yards passing. That leash is really short, and that's when everybody's
• 58:22
  saying, all right, the magic's done, the pasture not has been grounded,
• 58:27
  and we need to see what Jaren Hall does for us. But I
• 58:32
  mean, that's the truth for any non MVP level quarterback. You come out,
• 58:37
  you have a bad outing. The fans are clamoring immediately after the first
• 58:43
  interception for the backup to be in there. But I think as of right
• 58:46
  now, we've only seen good things. It's his job to lose. Yeah,
• 58:52
  unrelated to the quarterback job. If Alexander Madison doesn't suffer a concussion this
• 59:01
  week, do you think there are any major changes at running back given his
• 59:06
  production. I mean, as far as like the rule of a starter,
• 59:10
  they seem pretty content to have him be RB one, and they've shown that
• 59:15
  even after trading for a guy who was playing seemingly just as well in cam
• 59:21
  Akers. But we already saw it like this before Madison's concussion. That game
• 59:28
  was the most we had seen ty Chandler. Yeah all season. Now,
• 59:30
  granted we had cam Akers as well, but it seemed a lot more balanced
• 59:37
  without cam Akers. They seem to like kind of wake up to having a
• 59:40
  more balanced rushing attack. And yeah, we saw a lot more of ty
• 59:46
  Chandler or even any backup running back than we have all season, which I
• 59:52
  think is only going to be the case. Obviously it's gonna be the case
• 59:54
  right now because Madison's in the concussion protocol. But even when he's back fully
• 1:00:00
  healthy, you're only going to see, hopefully, you're only going to see
• 1:00:04
  more running backs until somebody plants their flag on that starting position. If ty
• 1:00:10
  Chandler comes out and rushes for three hundred yards against the Broncos, who's the
• 1:00:15
  RB one? Now? Like, I don't care who's healthy and who's not.
• 1:00:20
  If you have a guy explode, his s gets a little bit longer
• 1:00:23
  and maybe they switch up jobs. And it was interesting to see. I
• 1:00:28
  mean, not only was Anthony Barr brought in this week, but Miles Gaskin,
• 1:00:32
  Yeah, signed to the practice squad, so adding a little bit more
• 1:00:37
  depth, albeit on the practice squad for now. But I mean, you're
• 1:00:42
  starting running back is at this point ty Chandler, right, Oh, I
• 1:00:49
  think at this moment, even if like Madison suddenly is passing the concussion protocol
• 1:00:58
  he didn't participate in practice. Yeah, I think he's still in the protocol.
• 1:01:00
  So at this moment, I mean, unquestioned, ty Chandler is RB
• 1:01:05
  one right now and starting against the Broncos. And even if he kind of
• 1:01:09
  Madison kind of comes back and is cleared to play, I think they're still
• 1:01:14
  cautious with him. The Vikings this season have been quick to be cautious with
• 1:01:21
  players. I think of Marcus Davenport even before he was on IR like,
• 1:01:24
  they kind of held him back a little bit. I mean, they're they're
• 1:01:30
  letting guys get healthy a little bit, and I respect that. Yeah,
• 1:01:35
  that's that's the way to go. That's how you make it through a long
• 1:01:37
  season. But yeah, I think it's ty Chandler until Madison comes back,
• 1:01:44
  and I get the feeling when Madison is fully healthy, they're still gonna ride
• 1:01:47
  or die with Madison. But like I said, everyone's got a leash,
• 1:01:52
  and let's hope Madison either figures it out or they enact that whole leash idea
• 1:01:59
  and they some changes. It's definitely an interesting aspect of the Vikings game right
• 1:02:06
  now. I mean it's the running game has been the worst aspect of everything
• 1:02:13
  offense, defense, special teams. It's been abysmal. I mean, we're
• 1:02:17
  bottom tier in the league running the ball. When your quarterback who has been
• 1:02:22
  on the team for two weeks, is he in the lead for rushing touchdowns
• 1:02:30
  now, he's at least tied, right, Well, he's got two in
• 1:02:34
  two games. I think that's two more than Madison has all season rushing touchdowns.
• 1:02:37
  Madison's got a couple of receiving ones, right, but purely on the
• 1:02:42
  ground. Yeah, and cam Akers had the only other one, I think
• 1:02:46
  so. Yeah, I think you're right. Oh and ty Chandler he had
• 1:02:50
  that wildcat. Oh yeah, yep. He had another one that was wiped
• 1:02:54
  off the board because of the holding call. Yeah, I think I saw
• 1:02:57
  it. This season so far, he has three touchdowns called back from penalties.
• 1:03:05
  Yeah, which to be a backup running back, you know, a
• 1:03:07
  guy that's fighting for every play you can get, to have three different touchdowns
• 1:03:13
  wiped off the board, like, that's gotta be a little devastating, Yeah,
• 1:03:16
  a little demoralizing, like come on, guys, come on, and
• 1:03:21
  that that touchdown that was called back man, he he was booking it.
• 1:03:27
  He's fast. He's got some speed too, He's got a lot of get
• 1:03:30
  up and go. Yeah, it's fun to watch. I even saw it
• 1:03:32
  in preseason, Like just watching him in preseason, I was like, Man,
• 1:03:37
  this this kid could be something. Yeah, gotta get him the ball
• 1:03:39
  more. I hope we see him more. I mean you, it'd be
• 1:03:45
  nicer. It'd be easier to talk about this if Madison were a horrible person,
• 1:03:49
  you know, if he were somebody that we're like, get this guy
• 1:03:52
  off the field. He's terrible. He's mean to people, you know,
• 1:03:54
  he's he's a Deshaun Watson type, you know, but he's not like everything
• 1:03:59
  we know about Matt and is off the field, he's just the nicest person
• 1:04:01
  in the world. So it's you don't claimer for somebody like that to lose
• 1:04:04
  their job. But if they can't get more than two yards of carry,
• 1:04:08
  if we're if our eyes are bulging when he gets six yards on a rush,
• 1:04:12
  like there's something wrong with that. Yeah. Well, we hope that
• 1:04:15
  he can recover quickly, and obviously we hope all the other guys on the
• 1:04:23
  team that are hurting right now can come back. We've got a link the
• 1:04:28
  injury report as of today, the fifteenth, So yeah, it was long
• 1:04:31
  and kind of scary, but I mean a few guys were full participants,
• 1:04:35
  even with you know, showing up on the injury report. Greg Joseph,
• 1:04:39
  Hope everything's good with him. He was what did it say personal reasons?
• 1:04:43
  He wasn't participating in practice today, So that could mean anything. That could
• 1:04:47
  mean he had a cough or you know, somebody close to him is in
• 1:04:51
  serious situation. You hope he's okay, yeah, because he's been playing well
• 1:04:55
  outside of that one game. Something I thought about too when I was looking
• 1:04:59
  at the injury The injury report put out by the Vikings said that they didn't
• 1:05:02
  hold a formal team practice today. I didn't see that. So just fascinating,
• 1:05:09
  Like, you don't do anything Monday or Tuesday. Guys are maybe coming
• 1:05:14
  to the facility getting treatment, maybe having some meetings and things like that,
• 1:05:17
  but other than that, nothing formal. Wednesday, you don't do anything formal
• 1:05:23
  either, mm hmm. It's two days of practice, then Thursday, Friday,
• 1:05:27
  and then well and you think about it, that's all the Broncos are
• 1:05:30
  getting too. I mean they played Monday night, Monday night, so it's
• 1:05:34
  not like the Vikings would be like, you know what, We're gonna be
• 1:05:36
  nice to the Broncos and only practice a little bit. Oh, this could
• 1:05:40
  be something. Maybe they have it scheduled this way for you know, every
• 1:05:44
  third game on Wednesday, we just have a walkthrough. I don't know.
• 1:05:47
  Yeah, I get it. I just it was to me. It's fascinating
• 1:05:51
  just from a like work week perspective, like, man must be nice.
• 1:05:56
  Well, and I'm sure they still had maybe today was a very meeting heavy
• 1:06:00
  day where they have less meetings potentially on you know, other regular wednesdays.
• 1:06:04
  But that is a talker. I didn't notice that. Yeah, I don't
• 1:06:09
  know. For all we know, it was holy cow, the injury reports
• 1:06:13
  long, so let's kind of just do a walk through, or they've had
• 1:06:15
  it on the schedule to do it this way since you know, July.
• 1:06:17
  I don't know. But who are we to say if especially if they come
• 1:06:24
  out and win. We're just a couple of dudes, a couple of dudes
• 1:06:28
  from Iowa like drinking beer talking to Vikings. You have a note here the
• 1:06:31
  Vikings open up as underdogs, albeit on the road. Do you know what
• 1:06:38
  the point spread is? It was too I don't know if it's changed well,
• 1:06:42
  and in theory the home team gets three points, so it should be
• 1:06:45
  a close game. Vegas is saying it's a close game, and the Vikings
• 1:06:49
  have been winning those close games, and the Broncos have won three in a
• 1:06:54
  row, so I mean it will be close, probably, yeah, And
• 1:07:01
  I mean, who knows if we're gonna have Josh Dobbs can't play on you
• 1:07:06
  know, primetime games talker like we've somehow had the last handful of years with
• 1:07:12
  Kirky Kirk, but you never know. I mean, I don't know.
• 1:07:15
  I feel like this whole season has been the Vikings figuring it out on the
• 1:07:20
  fly, and this kind of seems like a figure it out on the fly.
• 1:07:25
  Dobbs has not with the Vikings played in a primetime game yet or a
• 1:07:29
  night game. This will be his after this game, he will play have
• 1:07:34
  played more road games with the Vikings than home games. And he's got two
• 1:07:38
  primetime games in a row coming up Sunday night this week at Denver and then
• 1:07:43
  Monday night next week, and that one's at home, correct, yes,
• 1:07:47
  at Minnesota. So yeah, I don't know. I'm excited for this game.
• 1:07:54
  I think it'll be a fun one. To watch. I hope,
• 1:07:59
  I hope koc can kind of throw out the idea that you need to switch
• 1:08:03
  it up and kind of let your foot off the gas, because, like
• 1:08:08
  we've said a few times already tonight, that second half of the Vikings offense,
• 1:08:13
  and even for the defense, but I kind of throw that the defense
• 1:08:15
  hadn't prepared for not Chacoby present for Jamis Winston, Wilson, Winsda there it
• 1:08:23
  is Wilson. The defense hadn't really seen Jamis, you know, and prepared
• 1:08:30
  for him. So I kind of kind of throw them away a little bit.
• 1:08:33
  But the Vikings offense, they just it was a tale of two halves,
• 1:08:39
  and the first half they played so good we kind of forgot that they
• 1:08:45
  didn't play that great in the second half, and that I guess, I
• 1:08:47
  mean, we're getting a little late into the episode here, so I don't
• 1:08:50
  want to take too much more time. But I thought I had was perhaps
• 1:08:56
  Kevin O'Connell burned up all of his create in the first half and didn't feel
• 1:09:02
  like he could recycle some of the stuff. I don't I don't know,
• 1:09:06
  maybe, or I mean, you just I don't know, as a coach,
• 1:09:11
  maybe you just try some things, and sometimes they work and sometimes they
• 1:09:14
  don't. And maybe the Viking second half, everything you tried just happened to
• 1:09:17
  not work. So it seemed like everything they tried was a run play,
• 1:09:23
  and run plays just haven't worked. Vikings don't have a run play. So
• 1:09:27
  I think back to Tom Brady and his you know, the majority of his
• 1:09:31
  years with the Patriots, we're not talking about, oh, Tom Brady and
• 1:09:35
  his Hall of Fame running back. He didn't have a run game. Tom
• 1:09:39
  Brady's run game was his short passing game. And occasionally they'd have a running
• 1:09:45
  back have a decent day, but most they were a pass first team.
• 1:09:48
  So maybe the Vikings need to embrace the fact that they don't have a run
• 1:09:51
  game. Now, you never abandon it. You don't want Josh Dobbs to
• 1:09:56
  be throwing sixty passes a game that's not sustain but I mean you don't.
• 1:10:02
  You don't keep going back to the run game if it doesn't work, Like
• 1:10:06
  everybody knows, Okay, they're gonna run it here and they're gonna lose two
• 1:10:10
  yards, like figure it out or figure something else out, And to your
• 1:10:15
  point, they just stop stop going to it. And I can't remember if
• 1:10:18
  I've said this just to you, not on air, or if I've said
• 1:10:24
  this on the podcast, but I'll come back to it. I think the
• 1:10:27
  Vikings are a pass first team, and you use the run game to set
• 1:10:30
  up the passing game. Not or am I saying that right? No,
• 1:10:36
  I'm I'm wrong. I'm gonna say that backwards. You're gonna use the pass
• 1:10:42
  game to set up the run game, not the other way around. Because
• 1:10:46
  we are a pass first team. I think you pass and pass and then
• 1:10:53
  you run occasionally to take the attention away from the passing game, get some
• 1:10:58
  of the pressure off of your receivers and the arm of your quarterback. It's
• 1:11:02
  not the other way around. It's not a Pittsburgh Steeler type, run it
• 1:11:06
  down their throat type of offense. Run, run, run, and then
• 1:11:11
  maybe use the play action to dram off and throw for a first down.
• 1:11:15
  It's pass, pass, pass, all right, let's run, Let's give
• 1:11:19
  guys a break, all right, Let's keep passing, let's keep going on
• 1:11:24
  the passing game. Okay, let's run again a couple times here or situationally
• 1:11:29
  right, like, yeah, we need to run here, we need to
• 1:11:31
  burn some clock, we need to do this, or we need to do
• 1:11:33
  that whatever we need to. It's second and one. We can get a
• 1:11:38
  first down on the ground here, let's do that, you know whatever.
• 1:11:43
  So I think the the running game sets up the passing game the passing game.
• 1:11:48
  Am I saying that wrong? Yea, I know what you're saying.
• 1:11:50
  They have to compliment each other. Yes, old school football says run to
• 1:11:56
  pass, you need to run, run, run, and then you can
• 1:11:59
  throw a play acts and then you can pass. That's not how the Vikings
• 1:12:01
  are set up. That's what their talents. That's not their play callers talent,
• 1:12:09
  like they just they don't have it. If we knew every time Madison
• 1:12:13
  was gonna get five yards every time, he's gonna get at least five yards,
• 1:12:15
  which that would be incredible, he'd he'd be a Hall of Famer,
• 1:12:18
  then you can let your foot off the gas a little bit and just run
• 1:12:23
  it because he's gonna get five yards. Who cares? And maybe you need
• 1:12:28
  ten yards, Well, you get five and then you figure it out from
• 1:12:30
  there. That's not how this is. This team is not built that way.
• 1:12:34
  And all that to say, KOC needs to maybe not completely forget the
• 1:12:43
  idea of playing with a lead and kind of working the clock a little bit,
• 1:12:47
  but maybe just figure out his own way to do it. I mean,
• 1:12:51
  you can incorporate plays that have very high percentage passing plays or give Josh
• 1:12:59
  Dobbs. I mean, this is something you don't have with Kirk too much.
• 1:13:01
  Give him one to two reads passing, and then make sure he has
• 1:13:08
  some kind of a lane to rush out of if he needs to work with
• 1:13:12
  the screen. If the screen's gonna die, then run it. There is
• 1:13:15
  a way that Koc can find it in his style, in his team's style,
• 1:13:20
  in his play calling style, to design a let your foot off the
• 1:13:26
  gas type playbook in the late game. If you have a lead like they
• 1:13:30
  did against the Saints, they just couldn't figure it out. They did not
• 1:13:35
  play the clockworking play style to their advantage. In a similar way, like
• 1:13:42
  we just said earlier, Brian Flores, something about his defense has changed,
• 1:13:47
  and he's a good enough coach that maybe he switched up some of his play
• 1:13:51
  calling style and some of his defense style. Maybe the players just finally figured
• 1:13:57
  everything out and they're playing to the best of their abilities. I'd say there's
• 1:14:00
  probably a little bit of both situation in that maybe Koc specifically when it comes
• 1:14:05
  to, you know, playing with a lead. He needs to figure that
• 1:14:10
  out too, switch up his play calling style. Maybe the players need to
• 1:14:14
  figure something out a little bit. All this would be so much easier if
• 1:14:16
  the Vikings had a run game, but they don't, so I don't know,
• 1:14:20
  yeah, and I guess it'll remain to be seen. You know what.
• 1:14:25
  What the Vikings do kind of down the stretch here, you know,
• 1:14:29
  with a couple of games before the bye and then five games after the bye,
• 1:14:33
  I mean late by for the Vikings is both think kind of good and
• 1:14:40
  bad. It's kind of a blessing in occurse. Yeah, well, with
• 1:14:43
  an injury report like they had today, it's definitely a blessing that way.
• 1:14:46
  And then you have guys like like JJ who you can kind of stretch it
• 1:14:51
  out a little bit more. If he's still not one when you're RB one,
• 1:14:58
  as bad as he seems to be, maybe you'd find that blessing and
• 1:15:02
  letting him get another week to get over the concussion a little bit. Marcus
• 1:15:06
  Davenport, we've seen him when he when he's healthy and playing, he's a
• 1:15:11
  disruptor in the defense. DJ Wantum has kind of filled that role. Pretty
• 1:15:14
  well in the last few weeks. But maybe Marcus Davenport with that late bye
• 1:15:18
  that helps him out a little bit more. So. I tend to believe
• 1:15:23
  the late bye is helpful injury wise, But I don't know. If you
• 1:15:27
  keep winning and then you have a bye week, maybe that disrupts your Yeah,
• 1:15:30
  disrupts the rhythm. Yeah, who knows, We'll see. I mean
• 1:15:34
  teams usually play better, they usually win right after their bye for the most
• 1:15:38
  part, but we'll see. I guess. I don't remember last year if
• 1:15:43
  they won right after their bye. It was a late bye last year too
• 1:15:45
  for the Vikings, I remember correctly. I don't remember was it right after
• 1:15:50
  the Arizona game that we went to. That could have been, and that
• 1:15:54
  was like Halloween weekend. Yeah, so yeah, we'd have to go back
• 1:15:58
  and check. But anyways, coming all the way back, like just super
• 1:16:05
  exciting to be six and four, Oh my gosh, right now with two
• 1:16:10
  more games before the bye, and then to those two games being arguably winnable
• 1:16:16
  games all things considered, and then I mean, who knows, after the
• 1:16:21
  buye. I mean, a lot of those games seem fairly winnable too.
• 1:16:26
  I saw something I thought about it earlier when we were talking, and I
• 1:16:30
  wanted to save it for the end, But I agree with this tweet that
• 1:16:34
  I saw earlier today that for the NFC North, it's going to come down
• 1:16:42
  to those last three weeks when the Vikings and Lions play each other twice in
• 1:16:46
  Week sixteen and Week eighteen. I'm pretty sure the Lions also have either two
• 1:16:50
  or three division games. I think they play the Packers at some point in
• 1:16:56
  that. Well, the Vikings played its Lions Packers, I'm not sure.
• 1:17:00
  Well for the Vikings it's Week sixteen, Lions, Week seventeen, Packers,
• 1:17:03
  Week eighteen Lions. Yeah, that's a huge stretch Lions to end the season.
• 1:17:09
  So I would say right now, the way it's looking is the divisional
• 1:17:14
  race is going to come down to the Vikings and the Lions, yep.
• 1:17:17
  And it's going to come down to those two games in the final three weeks
• 1:17:23
  of the season. And I believe both the Lions and the Vikings still at
• 1:17:29
  this moment hold their own destiny. And by that, I mean, you
• 1:17:32
  know they control you know, by winning. If they keep winning, then
• 1:17:36
  they're gonna determine if they go to the playoffs or not, or if they
• 1:17:41
  win the division or not. I think at this point, what are there,
• 1:17:44
  you know, what's the ESPN odds to make the playoffs for the Vikings
• 1:17:47
  as of right now, it's like something like seventy something per se. It's
• 1:17:50
  like seventy five percent. If they would have lost against the Saints that dipped
• 1:17:55
  pretty drastically. Yeah, if they won, which they did, went up
• 1:18:00
  to like seventy five percent. So I mean, like, at this point,
• 1:18:03
  it's looking likely that the Vikings are in. It's just a matter of
• 1:18:08
  where they end up. I saw, and it's the like unlikeliest of scenarios,
• 1:18:15
  but I saw the Vikings being a one scene. I mean, mathematically,
• 1:18:19
  sure, that's probably still a possible. It's still possible, but they'd
• 1:18:23
  have to win out and get some help. The Eagles would have to like
• 1:18:28
  lose like five more games or something like that, and it would be ridiculous
• 1:18:33
  and preposterous to think that that's a reality. But like, I mean,
• 1:18:39
  yeah, mathematically, at this point, anything's possible. And that's why I'm
• 1:18:44
  a believer in the culture. I'm a believer in Kevin O'Connell and Quasia Dolpamensa
• 1:18:50
  and what they've created here in only a year and a half of being with
• 1:18:58
  the Vikings, and shoot, I mean, if this is kind of what
• 1:19:02
  we can expect every season, sign me up. I'm excited. Yeah,
• 1:19:06
  good stuff. And for anyone, the last six weeks of Vikings football has
• 1:19:15
  pretty much made you have to believe in Quasi and Kevin, like you don't
• 1:19:20
  have a choice but to at least at least give them credit for the last
• 1:19:25
  six weeks. Like we talk about the locker room, and we talk about
• 1:19:29
  these in season editions and Riisner and bar and stuff like that, and how
• 1:19:33
  you know everything, these guys are playing for each other and they're playing for
• 1:19:36
  the coaches and that's that's not an accident. You look at like the Bears,
• 1:19:43
  where they've had you know, the same GM and coach change at the
• 1:19:47
  same time the Vikings did. And in that time the Bears have traded for
• 1:19:51
  Chase Claypool and that was a locker room cancer. And they have a quarterback
• 1:19:58
  controversy, which they really do in their you know, high first round pick
• 1:20:01
  and then they're what was he undrafted or fifth round or something like that.
• 1:20:05
  Yeah, I mean I don't remember, but low low draft pick if he
• 1:20:11
  was drafted or possibly undrafted, I don't know, so from the Vikings and
• 1:20:15
  Bears at the same time, basically hired a GM and a coach, and
• 1:20:20
  since then the Vikings are obviously in a way better position than the Bears.
• 1:20:26
  So like, you know, they're doing something right. And not to completely
• 1:20:30
  pick on the Bears, we have friends who are Bears fans and whatever,
• 1:20:32
  but I mean, you just you have to feel good about this team.
• 1:20:39
  And I think I even said it talking about the playoffs again, I think
• 1:20:42
  I said it at one point when the Vikings had lost like their third or
• 1:20:46
  fourth game, I said something like, well, I mean, Evan,
• 1:20:53
  you're an optimist, and obviously I'm a pessimist, and obviously I'm right because
• 1:20:56
  this this Vikings team is terrible because they're one and four. But like I
• 1:21:00
  will say this, if they do get to the point that they make it
• 1:21:03
  to the playoffs, look out, because they're gonna be dangerous because in that
• 1:21:06
  hypothetical scenario, they've battled back and beaten beaten the forty nine ers, and
• 1:21:12
  beaten these teams that like they have no business beating at a as a one
• 1:21:16
  and four team. You know, at the point at the time that I
• 1:21:19
  was making that point and look at them right now. Yes, there's still
• 1:21:24
  a lot of season left. Yes, there's still a full chance that we
• 1:21:29
  are talking about Holy cow, how do this team go from six and four
• 1:21:32
  to six and ten? You know, like that's still technically a possibility.
• 1:21:39
  But you know what, as of right now, they're in the playoffs.
• 1:21:42
  If the season ended today, they're in the playoffs. And we couldn't say
• 1:21:45
  that a month ago. Maybe. But it's exciting, it's fun. This
• 1:21:49
  team is dangerous. Let's go. Yeah, yeah, I agree, we
• 1:21:55
  should probably wrap this up here. We've been talking for a while. I
• 1:21:58
  like it. It's been fun. Yeah, like a beer and a half
• 1:22:00
  in the Yeah, what'd you think? What have you thought of this beer?
• 1:22:03
  It's good, I mean obviously very drinkable, very enjoyable. I would
• 1:22:09
  say it's probably not my like all time favorite I p A. But it's
• 1:22:15
  it's just it's good, it's easy to drink, enjoyable, crisp. And
• 1:22:24
  I'll come back to what I said earlier. It's uh, it's not trying
• 1:22:27
  to do too much. Yeah, you know, it's just it's unashamedly an
• 1:22:30
  I p A. That's all it is. It's not like a like bang
• 1:22:34
  pow pop whiz. This is the cool thing that we can do with an
• 1:22:38
  I p A. It's just no, we're an I p A. Yeah,
• 1:22:41
  it's all so I agree with I agree with that. I think about
• 1:22:45
  people talking bad about like a course light or like a bud light, you
• 1:22:47
  know, because like, ah, they're they're you know, cheap logger.
• 1:22:51
  You know, they're they're just nothing beers. But like, also, one
• 1:22:56
  thing I always think about those beers is like, yeah, maybe they're not
• 1:22:59
  world beaters. May be there, you know, they are the cheap beers.
• 1:23:00
  But one thing about them, they're consistent. If you buy a Cores
• 1:23:05
  light today and drink one, it's gonna taste the exact same as one that
• 1:23:11
  you bought, you know, when drank two years ago. Like, they're
• 1:23:14
  consistent, and that's not the easiest thing to do when you're brewin beer.
• 1:23:16
  I think the Raging River it's consistent. There's a simplicity to the flavor.
• 1:23:23
  But it's delicious and I love I Pas and I like this one a lot.
• 1:23:27
  It's very good, very good. Thank you, Front Street, Front
• 1:23:30
  Street. Anyways, good beer. I you asked me earlier if I'd have
• 1:23:33
  it, and I was kind of like yeah, maybe I would have another
• 1:23:36
  one. Obviously I've had this is yeah, this is the second one right
• 1:23:41
  here, So I have had another and I will have more. They are
• 1:23:44
  good, and uh yeah, maybe we'll have to have some more Front Street
• 1:23:47
  Front Street on the podcast. Oh absolutely, and you guys should too.
• 1:23:54
  If you do have some Front Street beer or any Iowa brew beer, let
• 1:23:59
  us know what you think. How can they reach out to us? Hit
• 1:24:01
  us up any of the socials. I really want to get some emails.
• 1:24:05
  I want to read some emails off Like, I think it'd be cool to
• 1:24:09
  read some direct emails to us on the podcast. Send us an email.
• 1:24:14
  We just created a link tree, which I didn't even really know existed until
• 1:24:16
  this week. But link Tree, thus Scholl hop you can find us there,
• 1:24:21
  and that literally is just a rundown of every place that we are on
• 1:24:27
  the internet, from email to Spotify, Apple, podcasts, Instagram, Facebook,
• 1:24:36
  Twitter, TikTok. It's all there in one spot So wherever you like
• 1:24:42
  to interact, you can find us there on link tree. And yeah,
• 1:24:49
  you can send us a message anywhere on any platform. And Austin's usually the
• 1:24:55
  one to be the guy behind that. But yeah, we'd love to interact
• 1:25:00
  and we have stickers. Well we will give you a sticker. Well,
• 1:25:03
  we will put it in the mail. If you give us an address,
• 1:25:08
  I will I will personally pay for the stamp. We can split it.
• 1:25:13
  I have stamps, so all right, So yeah, reach out to us.
• 1:25:15
  It'd be a lot of fun, be fun to start getting some interaction
• 1:25:19
  and add that as a wrinkle to our podcast. We're talking about some some
• 1:25:25
  ways we can expand maybe some different content we can put out, maybe some
• 1:25:30
  some real time content we can put out. TikTok's been a lot of fun
• 1:25:35
  for at least for me so far. You've been putting together some really fun
• 1:25:38
  clips. I've been enjoying making the content and then watching people enjoy the content.
• 1:25:44
  Yeah. Yeah, fun. So hopefully we get a nice little following.
• 1:25:46
  Let us know, like, we want to know if you're out there,
• 1:25:49
  if you're following us, give us some feedback. We'll tickets a heart.
• 1:25:54
  We can we can all be skull hoppers together, and we can come
• 1:25:58
  up with a better name for for our our little community. But I like
• 1:26:03
  it. It's goal hoppers. I spent not even a tenth of a second
• 1:26:08
  thinking about that. So it's got a nice littering to it. All right,
• 1:26:11
  man, I think this is a good point. Let's do it.
• 1:26:14
  Let's let's go beat the Broncos. Let's do it. All right, until
• 1:26:16
  next time, school, school,