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Who should be the next Knicks head coach? · NY's Sports Loud Mouth (VIDEO)

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  The Mets are going to get him a significant, They're going to
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  have a ton of money to spend. Why not putting in one of the
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  top three offensive players in the league?
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  We're going to be looking at Aaron Judge and saying that he
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  can't win the big game, Michael Jordan said.
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  I played 82 games. You don't see LeBron doing that.
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  A. Game where you got to go before?
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  I told you, Giant fans, Saquon Barkley at this
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  www.worldwidesportsradio.com. Jabba Chamberlain is over there
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  at the College World Series in Omaha.
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  Omaha, NE. How are you, Jabba?
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  Good. Just trying to set all this
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  stuff up. It's it's interesting.
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  We're live right now, so let's go.
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  Yeah, well, I see you're live over there and I'm sure you're
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  getting the chance to see all the coaches, some, I guess,
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  College World Series fans. I could only imagine the
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  thousands of people that go and check out the College World
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  Series every single year. And and and this year it's over
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  there in Nebraska, Omaha, NE. I've never been to Omaha, NE.
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  I heard there's actually, I'm not mistaken, there's like a
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  Jake 58 over there. There's like a casino over
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  there. Am I, am I wrong about that?
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  Yeah, they're technically in. Iowa.
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  Iowa. OK, I got it.
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  I got it. So Jabba's over there at Iowa.
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  No, I'm just kidding. Omaha, NE at the College World
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  Series. It's going to be fun tonight.
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  We might get some special guests.
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  So definitely stay tuned. I'm sure a lot of fans out there
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  that's never begone to the College World Series or never
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  experienced the College World Series.
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  Well, hopefully you'll get a chance to see some of the young
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  guys, the young fans out there that love baseball and love
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  Jabba Chamberlain. Maybe Jabba will sign a couple
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  autographs and and get to meet some of the future MLB
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  superstars that are going to star at the College World Series
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  this coming year. Very, very interesting.
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  And by the way, it is, it's humid here in Long Island, New
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  York. It's 84° and tonight the high
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  will be around 80°. So very humid, very sticky, very
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  disgusting. I don't like this time of year.
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  I don't like this weather, Speedy, you know, I don't like
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  this weather. It's absolutely horrendous.
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  And I'm actually experiencing earbuds in my ear.
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  So as you see, you're not going to see during the show.
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  I've been dealing with some sound problems, so I will be
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  wearing for now on moving forward ear pieces, ear buds for
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  the rest of my life during this show because I don't want to
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  blow my eardrums. There could be a lot of
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  screaming, a lot of craziness, but I, I just want to tell
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  everybody you're not going to miss anything.
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  I probably miss a couple of sounds and you know, peeps
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  during the show because I'm not going to be able to hear it.
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  But nevertheless, I am again happy to be here.
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  This will be my final show until I come back from my vacation on
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  Monday and Thursday next week. I will be on vacation.
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  I will be on a cruise. You might hear me, you know, pop
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  in maybe once or twice. It depends on if I have
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  reception on my cruise ship. But nevertheless, I have fish
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  standing in for me, Jabba standing in obviously as always
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  and speedy. So it'll be a fun show still
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  great guests and and great content.
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  It's just going to be a little bit without me for the whole
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  week. So I want to apologize to the
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  fans, but it is what it is. The Pacers last night beat the
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  Thunder 116 to one O 7 in game #3 to take a 21 lead in the NBA
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  Finals. The Pacers outscored the Thunder
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  32 to 18 in the fourth quarter and the Thunder did not hit a
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  single three pointer the entire fourth quarter.
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  Tyrese Halbern had nearly a triple double with a 24 point
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  game, 9 rebound and 11 assists. Shy or Shay, whichever way you
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  want to pronounce his name, had 24 points, only the second time
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  in the last ten playoff games he has scored under 30 points.
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  The Pacers bench outscored the Thunder 45 to 18, led by 27
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  points of Benedict. How do you pronounce his name?
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  Mathuran Math Erin I like math Erin Like urine.
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  Math urine. I like that throughout the NBA,
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  throughout NBA history, teams that win game three of the NBA
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  Finals win the series 80% of the time.
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  Well, I know a lot of OKC fans were not excited watching,
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  excited to watch that game as Shy Alexander or Shy Alexander
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  did not have one of his better games.
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  Nevertheless, you can't depend on your best player to just pull
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  out all the stops. The Pacers right now have the
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  better bench, they have the more depth.
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  And you're seeing why the Pacers went through the Eastern
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  Conference, going through the Cavaliers, going through the
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  Knicks and doing what they did in the two rounds that a lot of
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  people thought they were obviously outmatched and must,
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  must I, I guess you could say much lesser of a team than the
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  Knicks and the Cavaliers. The Cavaliers obviously were
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  their number one seed in the East and the Knicks were the
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  number three seed in the Eastern Conference.
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  The Pacers trailed obviously the Knicks, the Celtics and the
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  Cavaliers as they were the fourth seed.
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  Now I'll say this, the Pacers were expected to be good the
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  second-half of the season. They were one of the hottest
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  teams in all the basketball the last three weeks, I think they
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  only lost two games. So we expected this.
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  I did not expect them to roll right through the Cavaliers the
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  way they did, even rolling through the New York Knicks like
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  they did. And that right now up two to one
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  against an OKC Thunder team that won 60 semi games this year and
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  was one of the more dominant teams at home we have seen in a
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  very, very long time. They lost the game.
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  OKC lost the first game of the series against Tyrese
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  Halliburton. Unbelievable shot with five
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  seconds left of the game. And that, I believe has hurt OK
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  C and their confidence, OK C should be should have went in to
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  Indianapolis, up two games to none and now they're trailing 2
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  games to 1. You, you look at the situation
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  where the Pacers are now, the Pacers are definitely in the
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  driver's seat. They have a tremendous talent
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  like Tyrese Halliburton. They're getting offense from all
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  different parts of the court. I I mean, like we just said,
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  Mathurin, he has been up and down throughout the last couple
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  of series. There are games that he shows up
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  and then there are games that he's really just considered a
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  rebounder or a guy that uses, they use them as another body,
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  as a 6th or 7th guy off the bench.
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  But he has been sensational. He's added some depth to this
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  lineup. And I'll say this, Topping, OB
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  Topping, who was supposed to be my third in that game, has been
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  less of a man in this series against OKC.
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  Maybe because OKC is just as athletic as they are and the
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  athleticism didn't work like it worked with the New York Knicks.
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  Nevertheless, they're getting offense from all different parts
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  of this Pacer team. Even Naismith, who really has
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  been a big factor in their offense throughout the last
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  couple of series, has not really had a good series against OK C.
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  This is a guy that was one of the best 3 point shooters in the
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  NBA all season long and you saw what he did against the Knicks.
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  I think if I'm not mistaken, in game #1 and even in game #2 the
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  way he was shooting, he's not shooting that way in this
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  series. And they're getting A, again,
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  offense from places besides Tyrese Halliburton, from other
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  players that are not those type of players.
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  So it's been amazing to watch with the Pacers.
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  I'm not going to take shots at them.
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  I don't like Tyrese Halliburton. I don't think any Knick fan
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  likes Tyrese Halliburton. But you can't disrespect a
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  person that is one of the more talented long guards we have
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  seen in a very long time. We fought this and I'll say
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  this, if you remember Lonzo Ball, when he came out of the
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  draft, Lonzo Ball was 6 foot 6A point guard that could pass.
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  He wasn't as good a shooter as Tyrese Halpern.
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  Tyrese Halpern wasn't a good shooter when he came out of the
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  draft. He was a defensive player that
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  could pass the ball and rebound because of his length and his
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  ability to do the things that he does very, very well.
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  He's become a better shooter in the NBA.
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  He's become a better offensive player in the NBA and you see
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  the talent that he is. Why Sacramento decided to pass
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  up on him and trade them to Indiana, I don't know.
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  I don't I, I can't question the GM and obviously what Sacramento
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  has done over the years ruining their team, they send Fox to San
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  Antonio for but with a bag of really for a bag of balls.
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  So I, I don't get that organization.
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  Nevertheless, they could you could you imagine Sacramento at
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  one point had Tyrese Halliburton and D Aaron Fox as their guards.
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  Now the Aaron Fox is playing for San Antonio as their starter and
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  Tyrese Halpern's the starting point guard for the Indiana
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  Pacers and right now could win an NBA championship, something
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  the Indiana Pacers have never done.
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  But again, you look at this series and you kind of you kind
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  of wonder how is it that the Indiana Pacers are out
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  rebounding this OK C Thunder, an OK C Thunder team that has dart
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  one of the best big, I would say big forwards in the NBA right
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  now. He has been sensational all
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  season long. Very good rebounder.
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  You have Hartstein. We all know what he was when
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  with with the New York Knicks when healthy.
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  He adds that grit. He adds that rebounding
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  opportunity off the board. Offensive, good, offensive
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  rebounder, good defensive player in the, you know, in the paint.
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  And then the talent that they have.
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  You would have thought OK, C Thunder would run through the
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  Indiana Pacers because the Indiana Pacers don't have any
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  secondary players. Well, ladies and gentlemen, if
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  anybody thought that, then you don't know basketball.
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  And I can honestly say for a person that respects basketball
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  and loves basketball, I didn't really think Indiana had this
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  type of team. I thought they adapt, but I just
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  didn't think they were going to get the offense that they needed
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  from those secondary players to compete with the OKC Thunder.
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  Now, maybe OKC is not playing the way they thought they should
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  be playing in this series, High fast pace, but that has a lot to
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  do with Rick Carlisle and his coaching and in slowing
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  everything down. You would have thought the way
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  the Pacers like to play, they like to play running gun.
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  But really, if you've watched this series so far in the first
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  three games, I think the Pacers have slowed down the pace.
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  They let the pace go their way and and that that's I think is
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  the difference of the series, the pace, the speed of these
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  games that you would have thought it was been just just so
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  fast and such an offensive series.
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  Now you're watching it and it really isn't that much of an
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  offensive series. You see an up and down in the
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  series 116 one O 7 is not an offensive series.
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  I mean we've seen OKC score 130 a couple of times in the
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  playoffs. So you would expect that this
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  this series would be a high scoring series the way.
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  But I saw, but I think it's been it's been 1/4 or the other,
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  right? Like because we see. 1/2 or the
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  other quarters? Yeah, but it's been quarters
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  too, but it's it has. Been 1/2 quarter were the
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  dominant ones for the Pacers and that was the biggest key.
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  I think you when you look at the defense in the those of those
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  quarters as well, 18 points total.
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  And like you were saying, Harold, No 3 pointers allowed in
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  the entire fourth quarter. They outscored him by double
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  digits in the second quarter. And the bench defense I think
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  was even more impressive than the bench offense in that game.
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  Like you said, like they have the third who scored 27 points.
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  Nobody else really did a lot OB top in eight points.
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  He did have a lot of rebounds though and played good defense.
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  And you look at guys like Nemhard, who's been a threat
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  against the Knicks in the past two.
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  Eight points in that game. Nesma 7.
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  Nemhardt is not a good offensive player.
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  You're seeing a guy that can defend multiple positions and he
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  was a thorn in Jaylen Bronson's ass and he's been a thorn of Shy
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  Alexander, Shay Alexander in this series so far because
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  they've they've moved the perimeter, the point guards and
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  the defense on the perimeter on Shy Alexander and you've seen
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  the difference. It's been really crazy to think
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  that Rick Carlisle, who is a great head coach, he's
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  sensational. He's one of the best defensive
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  minds I've seen in a very long time in the NBA.
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  He reminds me a lot like Pat Riley.
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  Anybody remember Pat Riley when he caught while you weren't
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  alive? Speedy for the Lakers, but with
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  the Knicks. He was in Miami at the end.
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  Of the season, but we were with the Knicks and the way he he
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  built that defense and built that that perimeter defense that
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  the Knicks really played with John Starks and even with
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  Charlie Ward. And then they brought in Chris
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  Childs after obviously Patrick Pat Riley left and Jeff Van
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  Gundy took over. The way he liked to play that
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  defense on the perimeter and press and make the other guys in
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  the inside beat them. Now you're watching what Rick
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  Carlisle's really done. Shy Alexander, Shay Alexander,
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  the only way he could score points now is getting into the
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  paint and getting beaten up. And that is what they did to the
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  Knicks. That's what they did to Carl
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  Anthony Towns and that's what they did to Jaylen Bronson.
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  And now, ladies and gentlemen, they're doing the same thing to
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  Shay Alexander. And also, you look at the way
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  they were calling fouls at the beginning of the game, and you
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  could tell that game was going to get kind of chippy, too.
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  And you saw, OK, C still shoot a lot of threes.
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  And that's all that. In the first quarter, they made
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  a bunch of them. But throughout the rest of the
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  game, they really didn't. I think they they made five of
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  their first seven shots or something like that.
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  And then since then it really fell off for them.
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  They still shot 45% for the game, which is good.
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  But like in general, like you can't live by the three die by
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  the three philosophy when you have an OKC team that has that
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  much inside depth that they should have with Jalen Williams
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  and Chet Holmgren. Holmgren finally played well in
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  the series. He struggled the first two
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  games, but 20 and 10, but still they didn't get a lot after
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  that. Hartenstein was a non factor.
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  A lot of their bench players, their bigs, their forwards that
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  they should have a size advantage with over the Pacers
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  were a non factor because they haven't Like Thomas, Bryant is
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  like they're one big man off the bench.
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  We've been saying this, Holmgren is the most important piece for
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  this offense to really start to pick up the pace.
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  Holmgren doesn't pick up the pace.
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  They're not winning this series. Why do you think Holmgren is the
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  biggest piece? Well.
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  Because of his size, his length, his ability to go up and down
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  the court, the way he shoots the ball, he is a good three-point
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  shooter. He could get into the paint and
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  draw fouls and he's a good free throw shooter.
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  So he gives you that, that dual threat you need offensively to
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  really compete beat against teams that are very athletic,
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  like the Pacers. Holmgren is that guy that you
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  you get third or an 1/3 offensive style of game from
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  him. Your own.
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  You're impossible to beat. You look at Williams.
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  Williams up and down. But Williams is their second
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  guy. Without without home.
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  Grim scoring. Where's your second your third
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  dairy offense coming? Where's your 4th type of offense
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  coming from? Dart.
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  Dort is more like a streaky shooter.
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  Yeah, streaky shooter is more of a defensive rebounding type of
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  guy. He's not a guy that's going to
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  get you a consistent 20 points a game.
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  If he has a good game, he gives you 1617 and 8 to 9 rebounds.
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  That's the type of player Dort is.
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  They don't have that third style of offense that we've seen other
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  teams look. Look at the Cavaliers when they
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  were dominant. They got that third style of
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  offense from who? Kevin Love when?
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  Remember the Miami Heat? Where did Miami get that third
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  offense from? They got it from Chris Bosh.
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  If you look at all the teams that dominated, look, look at
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  last year, the Celtics when they won the number one guy
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  throughout the playoffs was really Tatum.
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  And then it was Brown. In the in the Finals, it was
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  Brown, then Tatum. And who's that third guy?
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  Porzingis. When you get that offense for
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  Porzingis, you're going to win. So, and you saw that in that
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  series against the Knicks. Porzingis wasn't healthy.
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  They weren't getting that third offense.
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  You're not going to depend on White.
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  You're not going to win with White.
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  You need that other offensive player and you don't have it.
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  And Holgren is, if he's not doing anything on the offensive
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  side of the ball, they're not winning.
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  And, and I think I believe Rick Carlisle knows that and he's
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  he's really forcing it out of Holgren to figure out what his
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  his offensive woes are in this series, which is basically the.
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  Comparison. Every player is described, yes.
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  He does, and he's going to get. He deserve a raise.
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  He's going to get a raise. Look at what he's done.
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  I look, that's why they pay this guy and he should be getting the
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  big bucks soon even if they don't come through in this
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  series. I can't believe how brilliant
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  it's been on defense by the Pacers.
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  To me, it's about the Pacers defense.
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  You realize they turned them over 19 times and this team was
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  a team that averaged 11.7 turnovers per game in the league
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  that that's what made them special is they didn't turn the
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  ball over they they had. I mean what did Shay have?
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  6 turnovers. 6 turnovers. Yeah, and only four assists.
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  And four assists. I think he's only that's defense
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  bro. I don't even think he had 6
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  turnovers in any one of these games throughout the playoffs.
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  That's his biggest as bad as he's ever going to play, right?
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  So they got that game, they got it at home, but it's about the
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  defense to me. On Chet, it was Myles Turner
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  that they decided to put on Chet.
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  You know, Chet's really kind of the power forward.
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  They ended up not being able to play Hardenstein at all.
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  I don't know what it was about the rotation or the way he's
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  playing or the matchups. They couldn't keep him on the
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  floor, so they ended up having to play kind of a small ball.
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  And now you have Turner on Chet. And Turner's got longer arms
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  than Chet. He doesn't get the size
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  advantage on Turner and he swatted the shit out of them.
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  And it was, there were a lot of really lazy plays that you just
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  don't see. And we've seen the Pacers do it.
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  I mean, as a Knicks fan, and we watched this series very
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  closely. Last series they did that to.
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  I mean, I, I would say Brunson had more success at times than
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  what Shay did in this game. I think Shay's been pretty good
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  before. I think if you push Shay around,
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  if you push him around, he gets off his spots and he's
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  uncomfortable. Jayla Brunson is going to go at
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  you, he's going to go at you. He's going to go at you until he
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  eventually beats you. He's a different player.
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  Shay, if you get into his head and we've seen players like
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  this, he's not Kobe Bryant. He is not that type of player.
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  He's more of a Kyrie Irving. That's what he is.
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  If you could get into Kyrie Irving's head, Kyrie Irving
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  doesn't have those explosive games you can get.
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  How do you do that? You push him around, you put him
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  into positions where he's uncomfortable shooting the ball
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  or even going to the hole and, and.
• 20:25
  By the way, what they have done in this series against Shay is
• 20:28
  pretty, it's pretty remarkable. Shay is one of the best 3 point
• 20:31
  shooters in the NBA right now. Why are they not hitting three
• 20:34
  pointers? Including him, especially in
• 20:36
  that game and game #3 is because they pressed him.
• 20:39
  They made him get into the paint and they make him do things that
• 20:44
  he is not comfortable doing. That teams have made him
• 20:47
  comfortable all season. Setting, setting up shop behind
• 20:51
  the line where he's shooting and chucking up threes.
• 20:54
  That's the NBA and that's the way the NBA BA is.
• 20:56
  I think Indiana has become that old style defensive team that
• 21:00
  we've seen over the years that have been dominant in the 80s
• 21:03
  and the 90s where you're pressing and you're making these
• 21:06
  guys do things that they're not comfortable doing and that's
• 21:09
  what Indiana is doing right now. It's been pretty remarkable how
• 21:13
  good they've been defensively. I have been shocked, shocked on
• 21:17
  the way they've handled this offensive side of OK C, who
• 21:21
  again has one of the best offensive players we've seen in
• 21:25
  the last 20 years. He's really that good of a
• 21:28
  player. And when you hold him up to 24
• 21:30
  points and what did they say last year, if you hold Jayson
• 21:33
  Tatum to 23 points, you have a chance to win a game.
• 21:36
  So, and the same thing happened with the Knicks.
• 21:39
  What are the what was the thing the Knicks fought in their
• 21:41
  heads? If we could keep Jason Tatum,
• 21:43
  Tatum, Tatum at Bay and let Jaylen Brown beat us, we're
• 21:47
  going to win that game 90% of the time.
• 21:49
  So, and that's what they're doing right now to this team.
• 21:52
  Holmgren, who's not to Chad Holgren is not scoring.
• 21:56
  He's not doing the things offensively you want him to do.
• 21:59
  And Shay Alexander, if he scores 2425 points, it's a win for the
• 22:04
  Pacers. Yeah, you were.
• 22:05
  I was talking about it when we're doing the Knicks in the
• 22:06
  Pacer series, how they were using kind of 1/2 press defense
• 22:09
  on Jalen Brunson, making it hard for him to get even close to the
• 22:12
  three-point line. And there were a couple of near
• 22:14
  back court violations that were that were called or not called.
• 22:18
  I think it's a little bit of approach different on shy where
• 22:20
  they're kind of like going blanketing the perimeter and
• 22:22
  make it very difficult for him to shoot the threes.
• 22:24
  And if they do let him in, making him take tougher mid
• 22:27
  range shots, not letting him drive to the hoop and draw those
• 22:29
  fouls. Obviously they were joking about
• 22:31
  the the Timberwolves standard together, guys talking about the
• 22:33
  foul merchants and how he's baiting fouls.
• 22:35
  The Pacers are not letting him do that either to the same
• 22:37
  extent. And Shy was still trying to draw
• 22:38
  the contact in the beginning in game and not getting the same
• 22:40
  level of calls. And then eventually it forced
• 22:42
  him to take a lot of tougher mid range shots or just mid range
• 22:45
  shots in general that were open that are just lower probability
• 22:48
  as a whole, not letting him shoot the threes.
• 22:50
  And as a result, I think the rest of the team lost confidence
• 22:52
  in shooting the threes, especially when Shy was out of
• 22:54
  the game. Their bench was outscored badly
• 22:56
  and the Pacers perimeter defense collectively deserves a lot of
• 22:59
  credit for that. And Rick Carlisle too, just
• 23:01
  changing his defensive approach and never letting him
• 23:03
  comfortable. The MVP of this series is Rick
• 23:05
  Carlisle. That's who the MVP of the series
• 23:08
  is. It's not Hal Burton.
• 23:10
  It's not any of these guys, not OB Topping, not any one of the
• 23:14
  guys. I think they're the MVP of the
• 23:18
  Indiana Pacers. And if Indiana wins the NBA
• 23:20
  championship for the first time of this team's existence, it
• 23:24
  should go to head coach Rick Carlisle.
• 23:27
  He has been that good, that good.
• 23:29
  Well, the MVP of Game 3 is this guy right here.
• 23:33
  Benedict Math Fury. Nice who?
• 23:38
  Math Put. Up.
• 23:39
  You're almost, almost a record of points off the bench. 27
• 23:44
  points in 22 minutes. Sam Cassell is the only person
• 23:47
  in the finals game with more points off the bench in the for
• 23:51
  the Rockets in 95. He played more minutes than that
• 23:53
  27 and 22 is outrageous. He was ugliest.
• 23:58
  Head you'll ever see I'm I'm just speaking to Julius.
• 24:02
  He looks, yes, he looks like an alien.
• 24:04
  Sam Cassell looks like an alien. That's what he looks like.
• 24:07
  As a matter of fact, his nickname was the alien over
• 24:10
  there with the Houston Rockets. That's what they used to call
• 24:12
  him. He.
• 24:13
  It's true. Who's that?
• 24:15
  Well, who's that alien cartoon character?
• 24:18
  I forget what TV show or cartoon it was.
• 24:21
  You see this little alien flying around?
• 24:23
  He's like a little ball. I, I, I, I I don't.
• 24:26
  I have to look that up. I don't know cartoons, but I
• 24:28
  remember them. Is it like Aqua Teen Hunger
• 24:31
  Force? Well, was it?
• 24:32
  How long ago? How long ago?
• 24:34
  I don't know. It was in the 90s.
• 24:35
  I I don't remember, but it was it, I don't know if it was the
• 24:38
  Jetsons, It was something, the Jetsons, The Jetsons remember
• 24:41
  the Jetsons. Jetsons like the 60s cartoons.
• 24:44
  Yeah, but it was when I was a kid.
• 24:46
  The Jetson movie came out in the in the 80s.
• 24:49
  I was a Jetsons fan. I loved it.
• 24:52
  I like I wasn't a cartoon fan, but I like T man.
• 24:55
  I like Thundercats and I like the Jetsons.
• 24:57
  I liked all the Disney movies. Chip and Dale Rescue Rangers.
• 25:00
  Remember that I I was when I was a kid, I used.
• 25:03
  To, like, love the rescue Rangers.
• 25:04
  Yeah, I used to watch that. Too love DuckTales, Alvin,
• 25:07
  Seyvan and Theodore. Wow, now DuckTales.
• 25:11
  No DuckTales. Are we talking about the best?
• 25:13
  Was the guy that the Scrooge Mcduck with the vault of gold
• 25:16
  that he goes swimming in? Remember that?
• 25:18
  Well, Chip, kids these days don't remember that stuff.
• 25:21
  Chip and Dale, Rescue Rangers was different.
• 25:23
  I don't think it's Alvin, Simon, Theodore that was Chipmunks.
• 25:27
  That was the Chipmunks, as Scoops was telling me over there
• 25:29
  in the back. Same crap.
• 25:30
  No, it's not. It's not the same crap.
• 25:32
  It was different. Chip and Dale.
• 25:34
  Chip, Chip and Dale. And we know you love Chip and.
• 25:37
  Dales, I do wow. I listen, I I could have been a
• 25:40
  Chip and Dale dancer. I mean, I'm not going to lie to
• 25:42
  you, but. No, you could not have what?
• 25:44
  No chance. Really.
• 25:45
  I I could no shot. What?
• 25:47
  You don't think I could dance like that?
• 25:50
  You don't think I could dance like that?
• 25:52
  You don't think I could dance like that?
• 25:54
  Huh. Well, I mean, doesn't Vinny from
• 25:55
  Jersey Shore do it so? You know Vinny, Vinny has
• 25:58
  nothing on me. OK.
• 26:00
  I could guarantee you think if it was between you and Vinny
• 26:03
  from Jersey Shore. 100 percent, 100%, no problem.
• 26:06
  I would kick his ass. I would kick his ass.
• 26:08
  I would absolutely burn him. Any any of our listeners burn
• 26:12
  him, Get get get his. I would absolutely burn him
• 26:16
  100%. I'm not even trying anybody that
• 26:19
  see me dance. I'll go out anytime job if he's
• 26:23
  if he doesn't trust that I could do that any day any.
• 26:27
  Time to be careful when the fist pump comes out.
• 26:30
  I don't do fist pumps. That's a lot.
• 26:31
  I don't do. Any I don't do.
• 26:34
  Fist pumps. I don't do any of that stuff.
• 26:36
  ESPN reports that the Knicks targeted several coaches
• 26:40
  currently under contract with our other teams but got rejected
• 26:45
  by 5 different occasions. The Mavericks, the Rockets, the
• 26:48
  Bulls, the Hawks, the Timberwolves all denied the
• 26:51
  Knicks to interview requested coaches that they wanted to
• 26:55
  interview. Rick Pitino, Dan Hurley and Jay
• 26:58
  Wright also said they are not interested in the Knicks
• 27:02
  coaching job. The Athletic Sam Emic reports
• 27:05
  that Formers, former Grizzlies head coach Taylor Jenkins and
• 27:10
  former Kings head coach Mike Brown are high considerations
• 27:14
  for the New York Knicks, the New York Post says.
• 27:18
  Or Stefan, I'm sorry. Stefan Bondi reports that Mike
• 27:22
  Malone is still an option for the Knicks, but considers it
• 27:25
  more a long of a shot. The New York Daily News reports
• 27:31
  that Johnny Bryant is still a top candidate for the Knicks,
• 27:34
  despite Jenkins and Browns now being a betting favorite.
• 27:38
  Charles Oakley called the Knicks the stupidest people in the
• 27:42
  world for firing Tom Thibodeau without a real plan.
• 27:46
  I do believe the New York Knicks have a real plan.
• 27:50
  I don't know why anybody thinks differently.
• 27:52
  I know everybody sitting here right now and thinking, hey, the
• 27:55
  Knicks reached out to Jay Wright or Danny Hurley or Rick Pitino.
• 27:59
  The only reason why they reached out to them is because they're
• 28:02
  considered New York guys. They're from this area.
• 28:05
  And we all know Pitino actually had this job.
• 28:08
  Danny Hurley's from Connecticut, he grew up a Knick fan.
• 28:11
  So. And Jay Wright, the Villanova
• 28:13
  Knicks, you have all these Villanova players, so you would
• 28:15
  have thought, I didn't think Jay Wright was coming out of
• 28:18
  retirement. There was no chance he was doing
• 28:20
  that. As far as the other teams like
• 28:22
  Jason Kidd, if Jason Kidd was available to interview with the
• 28:25
  Knicks, he'd probably get the job because the Knicks are
• 28:28
  trying to get Giannis. So I don't believe that The
• 28:33
  Mavericks will give the Knicks an opportunity to interview
• 28:35
  Jason Kidd because they have control of where they believe
• 28:39
  Jason Kidd should go. So I, I don't, I didn't think
• 28:42
  Billy Donovan, he's from this area, is from Long Island, New
• 28:45
  York. I didn't think if the Knicks
• 28:47
  really wanted a New York, Long Island guy, you should have went
• 28:50
  after Kenny Atkinson last offseason.
• 28:53
  He was the best available coach. He went to the Cavaliers.
• 28:56
  Now he fell short obviously against this Indiana Pacer team.
• 29:00
  Nevertheless, he had a had a great season.
• 29:01
  He had one of the best records in the league.
• 29:03
  This coach search. I do not want Mike Brown.
• 29:07
  Stay the hell away from Mike Brown.
• 29:09
  I do not want him. I've seen him enough with the
• 29:11
  Cavaliers. I've seen him enough over there
• 29:13
  with Sacramento. If you want to go after a guy
• 29:16
  like Taylor Jenkins, he's an interesting guy.
• 29:19
  He did a very good job over there with the Grizzlies.
• 29:21
  The Grizzlies should have never fired him.
• 29:23
  But again, the guy that I'm looking at is Johnny Bryant and
• 29:27
  I think that is the guy the Knicks are obviously staring at
• 29:32
  and and believe they're going to get now they're going to.
• 29:34
  Everybody thinks that the Knicks are stupid.
• 29:36
  And even if the Knicks go with Johnny Bryant, the Knicks are
• 29:39
  still going to look like a bunch of idiots because they went to
• 29:41
  the Eastern Conference finals. They fired the coach that got
• 29:44
  them there. They've had the best record, the
• 29:46
  teams that had for the last five years than their existence over
• 29:50
  the last 25 years. They've made run after run in
• 29:53
  the playoffs and fell short going as further as far as
• 29:56
  they've gone on this this this season.
• 29:59
  And now you're going into an offseason where you're
• 30:01
  questioning where do they go? Do they go at a veteran coach
• 30:04
  like Mike Malone or Taylor Jenkins or Mike Brown?
• 30:07
  Or do you go after the rookie and and bring in a Johnny Bryan
• 30:10
  where a lot of people are going to be questioning why didn't you
• 30:13
  just fire Tom Thibodeau and hire Johnny Bryan?
• 30:16
  Why are you waiting this long to make the hire?
• 30:18
  It makes the Knicks look like a stupid organization because
• 30:21
  everybody knows they've targeted a bunch of coaches.
• 30:24
  They wanted to interview for the job, but they already know who
• 30:27
  they were going to hire. Mike Malone.
• 30:29
  It doesn't seem like was the guy, because if Mike Malone was
• 30:32
  the guy, they would have hired him already.
• 30:35
  It seems like Johnny Bryan is the guy that they're going to
• 30:38
  hire, but right now what they're trying to do is interview guys.
• 30:43
  So it doesn't look like the Knicks didn't have a plan.
• 30:47
  But now they look like they didn't have a plan and they're
• 30:50
  still going to hire Johnny Bryant and they're going to look
• 30:52
  like an idiot organization because they parted ways with a
• 30:55
  coach that got him to the Eastern Conference finals.
• 30:57
  None of this makes any sense. And what is the New York Post
• 31:00
  doing? What are all these newspapers
• 31:03
  doing in magazines riding the New York Knicks, the Daily News?
• 31:07
  What they're doing is they're making the Knicks look like 1/2
• 31:10
  assed organization run by a guy like James Dolan who's been made
• 31:14
  fun of saying that he doesn't know what the hell he's doing.
• 31:16
  He doesn't know the position and staying away from the position
• 31:20
  as an owner to a GM. He has Leon Rose, who's been
• 31:23
  getting a lot of the praise. But now when the team is not
• 31:27
  doing or didn't do what they were supposed to do with the
• 31:29
  team that they put together this offseason with Carl Anthony
• 31:32
  talents and Michael Bridges, they didn't go to the Finals
• 31:35
  when they had the best chance to get to that position.
• 31:38
  So right now, the Knicks are going to be the target of
• 31:41
  laughter the the target of jokes.
• 31:43
  Because right now, the Knicks have not made a higher and
• 31:47
  they're sitting here wondering if Johnny Bryant's the guy.
• 31:50
  Yeah, it's interesting because I think a lot of the coaches that
• 31:52
  they did inquire about from those other teams, probably
• 31:55
  we're not going to be higher end guys anyway.
• 31:57
  Like Quinn Snyder from the Hawks has not really done a lot since
• 32:00
  he's gotten to Atlanta. They've been a playing team at
• 32:02
  best. Belly Donovan.
• 32:04
  I like the at the time for the Bulls, it made sense, but he's
• 32:06
  been stuck in mediocrity. Not all their faults.
• 32:08
  I'm not saying that they're bad coaches.
• 32:09
  I'm not saying that they they couldn't succeed somewhere else,
• 32:11
  but they were not the ideal guys for the Knicks.
• 32:13
  Now if they could have pride one of the other three away with
• 32:16
  Udoka or Jason Kidd, something like that.
• 32:18
  They were never getting a doka. I don't think so either.
• 32:20
  There's no reason for Houston, A2 seed in the West this year, a
• 32:23
  young team, to give the Knicks what they want.
• 32:25
  There's no reason for Dallas to give them what they want, even
• 32:28
  though they're a dumb organization.
• 32:29
  And Minnesota just went to the Western Conference Finals, so
• 32:32
  there's no reason for any of those teams to do that.
• 32:34
  I don't mind and the Knicks trying to do that kind of thing,
• 32:36
  the whole process does seem a little far fetched for doing it
• 32:39
  that many times. A couple of coaches, yeah, I was
• 32:41
  hearing a Doka and Finch, if you just stopped there, okay, fine,
• 32:44
  that's different. But then doing it like that,
• 32:46
  yeah, it does delay the process. I agree with you on Mike Brown.
• 32:48
  I don't think he's really the type for this team As much I
• 32:51
  like him as a coach, I think he'll do should get a job
• 32:53
  somewhere else. They built this team much more
• 32:55
  on three and D guys and Mike Brown when he was in Sacramento
• 32:58
  was a more offensive driven team.
• 33:00
  When he was in Cleveland, they were much more offensive driven
• 33:02
  team. I don't think that type of team
• 33:04
  fits the Knicks as much. Do the Knicks need to play
• 33:06
  faster? Yes.
• 33:06
  Do the Knicks need to get better scoring consistently?
• 33:09
  Yes. I don't think that was the right
• 33:10
  idea. Jenkins I'm split on like he was
• 33:13
  the fallout really that bad with Memphis where he would be able
• 33:15
  to get an impact job right away? I'd like Jenkins.
• 33:18
  I would like Jenkins more than tail.
• 33:20
  I'm sorry. Taylor Jenkins over guys like
• 33:22
  Mike Brown. I would take him or even Mike
• 33:25
  Malone because Taylor Jenkins is still kind of a young guy.
• 33:29
  He's not an old gentleman. Mike Brown's getting up there in
• 33:32
  age. He's closer to 50.
• 33:35
  Obviously, we all know what Johnny Bryan is.
• 33:37
  I think Johnny Bryan's in his mid 40s.
• 33:39
  And again, Taylor Jenkins I think is there too.
• 33:42
  I think he's in his mid 40s. So you would want the younger
• 33:45
  guy, you want to bring in the younger guy.
• 33:47
  That could give you that that different outlook to your
• 33:50
  offense side of the ball. I also think that the defense
• 33:53
  they played throughout the playoffs did not work.
• 33:56
  It didn't work. And you're not going to beat
• 33:58
  Indiana that way. You're not going to beat the
• 34:00
  Cavaliers that way. If the Cavaliers were 100%
• 34:03
  healthy, maybe the Cavaliers, this would be the Cavaliers
• 34:06
  right now against the Thunder. So I'm just saying it.
• 34:09
  That's been the problem. And and that also has something
• 34:13
  to do with coaching. Kenny Atkinson ran that team up
• 34:16
  and down the court all season long.
• 34:18
  I think that got him tired. And then obviously you saw what
• 34:21
  happened that Darius Garland at the end of the season,
• 34:23
  throughout the playoffs, a guy that couldn't stay healthy and
• 34:26
  and has something to do with coaching.
• 34:28
  You got to bring in the right guy.
• 34:31
  The right guy has to fit the culture there.
• 34:34
  Johnny Bryant's been there before.
• 34:35
  He's worked on the Tom Thibodeau.
• 34:37
  He understands the defensive side of the ball.
• 34:39
  I think he'd be great over there for the New York Knicks.
• 34:42
  And he's done wonders for the Cavaliers, who went from, I
• 34:45
  think, ranked defensively 13th or 12th last year to one of the
• 34:49
  top three defenses in the league this year.
• 34:51
  Yeah, they were. One, they were I think the
• 34:52
  number one defense two years ago when they first hired Becker
• 34:55
  staff. But you're right, it's fallen
• 34:56
  off since then. But it was really their offense
• 34:57
  that was a mess. Cleveland over there.
• 34:59
  And I think that's the type of coaching going to need over here
• 35:01
  with the Knicks, somebody that could change their offensive
• 35:03
  culture. Bryant going over there would be
• 35:05
  that kind of thing because he was with Cleveland last year
• 35:07
  where they were the most efficient offense in the NBA
• 35:10
  last year. And that kind of thing I think
• 35:12
  is definitely encouraging when you need that two year window.
• 35:15
  The Knicks have the two year window now.
• 35:17
  You're right. Jenkins I think is a good
• 35:18
  culture guy too. He built organically a young
• 35:21
  Memphis Grizzlies team that they had those Grind City years and
• 35:24
  they had three bad years in a row.
• 35:26
  Then all of a sudden John Moran gets drafted.
• 35:27
  They're playoff team pretty quickly.
• 35:29
  And I think the Knicks, I don't know if it's going to be
• 35:32
  guaranteed to work there because while they all do have some good
• 35:34
  young players, they're still mostly a prime veteran team
• 35:36
  right now that has that two year window.
• 35:38
  So I do think Brian is still the approach you have to go to at
• 35:40
  this point. Jenkins, I do do like the only
• 35:43
  reason I don't like him as much. We've seen the Knicks fall off
• 35:45
  at the end of the season with Thibodeau, and we've seen
• 35:47
  Jenkins fall off at the end of the season with the.
• 35:48
  Grizzlies. There's got to be a New York
• 35:50
  background with one of these guys.
• 35:51
  Probably, again, that's where I think fish you're about to.
• 35:53
  Get to is it? Is it New York or younger or
• 35:56
  older? I, I think then I think the, the
• 35:59
  Knicks are middle-aged. They're middle-aged guys.
• 36:01
  I mean, right, I mean Jayla Bronson's 2829.
• 36:05
  And then you have guys like Josh.
• 36:08
  Hall So do you. So do you go younger?
• 36:10
  Do you go old? I think you go with a guy like
• 36:13
  Johnny Bryant. I think Johnny Bryant's been
• 36:14
  there before. He understands how he can run
• 36:17
  this offense in his defense. I think he understands the game
• 36:20
  and the and the way the new style of basketball is played.
• 36:24
  And I think if you have Johnny Bryant in this series, this past
• 36:27
  series against the Pacers, the Knicks probably make the Series
• 36:30
  A little bit more closer because he would be telling his guys
• 36:32
  like OG Nanobi and Mikhail Bridges.
• 36:34
  Fight through those picks. Fight through the picks.
• 36:37
  Don't shift in transition from one player to another to
• 36:41
  another. That doesn't work in the NBA.
• 36:43
  As you seen right now with the Pacers are doing to Shay
• 36:46
  Alexander. They have one guy sticking him
• 36:48
  on the perimeter. If it shifts to another side or
• 36:51
  he's moving up, they have a big man taking him.
• 36:54
  That's what they're doing. But they're doing it in such a
• 36:56
  good way where Shay Alexander doesn't understand how the
• 36:59
  rotation is working and he can't get those open 3 point shots
• 37:03
  that he's done over the last really for the last five years
• 37:07
  in the NBA. Java, to answer your question,
• 37:10
  when they hired Thibodeau initially, they needed that
• 37:12
  veteran coach to change the culture over there because they
• 37:14
  were rotating with Jeff Horn, a second David Fizdale and all
• 37:16
  those other guys. And they they tried to go for
• 37:18
  the flashier hires, younger coaches that seemed like they
• 37:20
  were up and coming and then they weren't.
• 37:22
  And then eventually, I guess just the message gets stale.
• 37:24
  And obviously we were talking about it last week.
• 37:26
  But when he did get fired, there were players in the exit
• 37:28
  interviews with Leon Rose that said that they didn't want to
• 37:31
  play for Thibodeau. They would have demanded a trade
• 37:33
  in the offseason. Whether it was heart, whether it
• 37:34
  was Bridges, whoever, it was like they can't have that kind
• 37:37
  of thing. Just it gets stale eventually.
• 37:38
  Same kind of thing with with Malone and the Nuggets.
• 37:40
  Like, I don't know how toxic it was with the individual players
• 37:43
  getting fired. Obviously it was a bad
• 37:44
  relationship with the GM, but they did well with their new
• 37:46
  coach. They embraced the new culture.
• 37:48
  And I think the Knicks are going to try that same kind of
• 37:49
  approach if they do hire Brian, which does seem like the
• 37:51
  direction they're going in. Or that's the way they're going.
• 37:53
  Yeah, 100%. There was a reason they still
• 37:55
  inquired about a lot of those younger coaches too.
• 37:58
  Like obviously Mike Brown is the exception of that rule in Quinn
• 38:00
  Snyder, but all the other coaches they inquired about from
• 38:03
  younger teams are younger coaches.
• 38:04
  So I do think that's the approach they want to take.
• 38:06
  They're not going with Taylor Jenkins.
• 38:08
  They're not going with Mike Brown.
• 38:09
  I know obviously the betting man will tell you that they're going
• 38:13
  to go with one of these guys. I think they're only saying that
• 38:17
  right now because everybody doesn't think that Johnny Bryant
• 38:20
  is the hot name. Nobody thinks, oh, you fired Tom
• 38:23
  Thibodeau for Johnny Bryant, who's never coached in the NBA
• 38:27
  before. Nobody likes that hire.
• 38:30
  But it seems like the more interesting hire out of all of
• 38:33
  this. You're going to bring in Mike
• 38:34
  Brown. That's an interesting hire.
• 38:36
  Nobody wants Mike Brown. I don't want to hear what he did
• 38:38
  with the Cavaliers. I don't want to hear about his
• 38:40
  background as an NBA head coach. He's not good.
• 38:43
  He wasn't good with Santa. Wasn't he there with Santa?
• 38:45
  No, he wasn't San Antonio and. He was an assistant in San.
• 38:48
  Antonio. He was an assistant in San
• 38:49
  Antonio. Golden State, He.
• 38:50
  Wasn't Golden State Golden State?
• 38:52
  That was where he was with Kenny Atkinson and all that other
• 38:55
  stuff. So I, I just, I don't think he's
• 38:58
  a good head coach And I, I, the hottest one out of all of this
• 39:01
  is Taylor Jenkins. But I don't think Taylor Jenkins
• 39:04
  has any background here in New York.
• 39:05
  I don't think he's going to New York.
• 39:07
  It makes a lot of sense what the Knicks are doing, even though
• 39:10
  they look stupid right now. They're going with Johnny
• 39:12
  Bryant's and it's not Mike Malone anymore.
• 39:14
  I thought it was Mike Malone. It's not going to be Mike
• 39:17
  Malone, because if it was going to be Mike Malone, they would
• 39:20
  have hired his ass already. Well, I like they're doing their
• 39:23
  due diligence and asking about literally everybody.
• 39:26
  That's people that are already have jobs.
• 39:28
  So even though it does look kind of ridiculous in the media to
• 39:32
  ask some, these teams are just like, no, of course you can't
• 39:34
  talk to Jason Kidd. No, of course you can't talk to
• 39:37
  Imei Udoka. No, that guy's a great coach.
• 39:39
  We're not getting rid of him. What are you talking about?
• 39:41
  Why are you even asking us? It's kind of ridiculous, but you
• 39:46
  got to find someone. It just I worry that they got
• 39:48
  rid of tips and they didn't really have a plan on who who
• 39:52
  does it. And whenever that happens, it
• 39:54
  makes me think this was a James Dolan decision and not a Leon
• 39:58
  Rose decision. Well, that's the same.
• 39:59
  Thing fish Dolan has done this a long time.
• 40:02
  Like why would you fire somebody and not have a backup?
• 40:05
  Because he's Dolan. Because he's Dolan.
• 40:07
  He's he's worried about singing the Blues with his band, you
• 40:11
  know, and an audience that he paid to be there, you know, and
• 40:15
  with a 2 drink minimum or something like that, he doesn't
• 40:17
  give a damn. He likes his teams to win,
• 40:19
  doesn't know how to do it, and then he medals and he always
• 40:22
  screws it up. I really hope he doesn't screw
• 40:24
  this up. I really want Taylor Jenkins.
• 40:27
  If it was me, I think want an offensive coach.
• 40:29
  Bryant's a defensive coach. I want to see offense.
• 40:32
  I want to see more than just Jalen ISO and then hope that
• 40:36
  they just have like that, that connection from Villanova days
• 40:39
  to make a good pass, which they do every once in a while.
• 40:42
  It's just not good enough. I think whoever it is they hire,
• 40:44
  Errol has to answer this question in the job interview.
• 40:48
  How do you hide Karl Anthony Towns on defense?
• 40:51
  Because the defensive system that Tom Thibodeau had exposed
• 40:55
  him, especially in the playoffs, because he's switching.
• 40:57
  Now you look, you're going to have to switch on a pick and
• 40:59
  roll. That's that's part of
• 41:00
  basketball. But you can't if you're going to
• 41:03
  switch every single guy and a coach like Carlisle is going to
• 41:07
  make you do that enough times to the point where Towns now has to
• 41:11
  step up on the perimeter. Now you look like an idiot.
• 41:14
  Or if Towns has to then rotate back, you know he's not going to
• 41:16
  rotate back fast enough. So you have to come up with a
• 41:19
  better defensive scheme. And I want to hear that as like
• 41:22
  the first order of business. How are you going to protect our
• 41:25
  not so great defensive big? And if the answer is I can't, I
• 41:30
  think you should trade them and this is what they should get.
• 41:33
  That's not maybe the wrong answer, but I would like to hear
• 41:36
  a real answer from somebody because they got to come in with
• 41:39
  that answer. I I agree with you.
• 41:41
  I think somebody's going to have to come in and come with an
• 41:44
  answer of Carl Anthony Towns. I still don't think Carl Anthony
• 41:47
  Towns is going to be a part of this team or this organization.
• 41:49
  I think that obviously the Knicks realize that Carl Anthony
• 41:53
  Towns is just going to be an offensive option and it doesn't
• 41:57
  work with Jalen Brunson on the court with him.
• 41:59
  So if you're going to get, if you're going to pay a guy 50
• 42:02
  something, $1,000,000 to come off the bench to give you that
• 42:04
  secondary offense to be on that second team, then you need to
• 42:08
  trade Karl Anthony Towns. I think Giannis is in in the
• 42:12
  play or in play for the New York Knicks.
• 42:14
  The question is, is Giannis going to like Jenkins?
• 42:17
  Is Giannis going to like Brian? Or is Giannis going to like any
• 42:21
  of these coaching options? Or do they wait, wait until the
• 42:26
  draft is over and they run and gun for Giannis, get Giannis and
• 42:30
  ask Giannis who he wants? So I, I don't, I don't know
• 42:33
  exactly how the Knicks are handling this, but I think they
• 42:36
  absolutely know where they're going.
• 42:39
  I don't know why anybody thinks differently.
• 42:41
  I know that's what everybody wants to cry about right now
• 42:44
  when it comes. To how would they know where
• 42:45
  they're going right now? Like, but what are you going to
• 42:48
  have to give up to get Giannis? Well, I don't know.
• 42:51
  And that's that has something to do with Leon Rose and I trust
• 42:54
  that Leon Rose will make the right decision.
• 42:57
  And by the way. That's the that's the same thing
• 42:59
  with the coach, though. It's like, if you're not going
• 43:01
  to bring him in, like what are you doing?
• 43:03
  I do not believe James Dolan has any involvement of this coach
• 43:09
  hire. I I really don't.
• 43:12
  Leon Rose has been taken over this team and this organization.
• 43:16
  I trust Leon Rose that he's going to make the right
• 43:18
  decision. Has he made the wrong decision?
• 43:20
  I don't think he has. He's made a lot of good
• 43:23
  decisions. So him deciding to part ways
• 43:25
  with Tom Thibodeau, I believe in Leon Rose.
• 43:28
  So you got to trust that he's making the right option for the
• 43:33
  team in the organization, where the team is going and where he
• 43:36
  believes this team should be next season.
• 43:39
  And if he thinks that Tom Thibodeau got him as far as he
• 43:43
  thought he can get them, he's the one who hired them.
• 43:46
  So why is everybody questioning what he did?
• 43:48
  It's not like he came to the team.
• 43:51
  Leon Rose came to the team and didn't hire Tom Thibodeau.
• 43:54
  Tom Thibodeau has been there as long as Leon Rose has been
• 43:57
  there. Leon Rose did what he needed to
• 43:59
  do to upgrade this team in this roster.
• 44:01
  It took him five years to do it. Now all of a sudden, because the
• 44:05
  Knicks fired Tom Thibodeau and they haven't hired anybody yet
• 44:09
  and all these other teams have told, have told the Knicks you
• 44:12
  can't. You can't interview this guy.
• 44:14
  He can't interview that guy. The Knicks are a stupid
• 44:16
  organization. They don't know what they
• 44:18
  they're doing and they should be ashamed of themselves.
• 44:21
  I'll tell you what, here's what I'm going to do for all you
• 44:24
  Knick fans that are talking all the crap on social media.
• 44:28
  If this doesn't work, if Leon Rose doesn't make the right
• 44:33
  decision and he decides, hey, I'm going to bring in Johnny
• 44:38
  Bryant or I'm going to bring in Mike Malone, or I'm going to
• 44:40
  bring in Taylor Jenkins, Whoever he decides to bring in, and this
• 44:43
  fails over the last five years when it hasn't, I will quit
• 44:50
  being a broadcaster. I will quit being a broadcaster
• 44:54
  because I believe in Leon Rose on everything that he has done
• 44:59
  over the last couple of years. And I am not questioning this
• 45:03
  man on his decision making on how he believes this team should
• 45:08
  be when it comes to rotational defense and how this team should
• 45:12
  be in secondary offense, which they have had none over the last
• 45:16
  couple of years. Because you got guys that you
• 45:18
  drafted like Kohlik and all these other French players that
• 45:22
  you've drafted over the last couple of years that you don't
• 45:24
  play enough and that you bring in campaign because Tom
• 45:28
  Thibodeau likes him. Give me a break.
• 45:32
  I trust Leon Rose, and you heard it from me today.
• 45:35
  Leon Rose fired Tom Thibodeau, whoever he brings in.
• 45:38
  I trust in Leon so much. I would give up broadcasting if
• 45:43
  he's wrong. Just be careful because I I was
• 45:46
  listening to Francesa and Mad Dog and Mad Dog swears that it
• 45:50
  was Dolan's fire and Francesa sweared it was Leon Rose.
• 45:56
  So nobody knows, just like always with the Knicks where the
• 45:59
  madness is coming from. Look, if it is Leon Rose, I, I
• 46:03
  agree with you, Errol. He's earned our trust with
• 46:06
  everything that he's done as, as the, as running the Knicks.
• 46:09
  The Knicks were in complete hell, cap hell.
• 46:12
  The I mean, do you remember the Phil Jackson days?
• 46:15
  I remember. How how terrible that was.
• 46:18
  Oh my God, the false hope of the Phil Jackson days and.
• 46:20
  Then we drafting Frank Nilikino. Remember that?
• 46:23
  Remember that guy? Frankie Nilikino, Remember that?
• 46:26
  Shoot the basketball. When they could have drafted the
• 46:28
  spider 3 picks away from that or no actually 5 picks away from
• 46:33
  that or something. It was 13 so.
• 46:35
  He Yeah, because he fell out of the top 10, right?
• 46:38
  Yes, I think he went 13 or 12. And then the and even before
• 46:42
  that with Isaiah Thomas, with all the just the disaster that
• 46:45
  he was, there was so many years and generations of it.
• 46:48
  I mean, you can go back to Scott Laden if you really.
• 46:50
  Want Donnie Walsh was good. Donnie Walsh was good.
• 46:53
  Yeah, except Donnie Walsh made a proposal to to LeBron to come to
• 46:56
  the Knicks while he was in a wheelchair and on a ventilator,
• 46:59
  and it was like one of the dumbest things anyone's ever
• 47:01
  done. I I can't forgive him for that,
• 47:05
  to be honest with you. I just, I'd never have that.
• 47:07
  Look the Knicks. It's a wide open E next year,
• 47:11
  Tatum. 'S house for the year.
• 47:13
  Hey, hold on. We we got a fan come in and this
• 47:17
  is going to be something that goes to Errol.
• 47:20
  He's a Steph Curry guy. Steph Curry.
• 47:24
  Let's hear it. I I really felt like if Steph
• 47:26
  Curry was healthy the Timberwolves were cooked
• 47:30
  personally as that's what I personally feel like because
• 47:33
  they cannot guard him and not the Houston Rockets.
• 47:36
  And even aunt said it. Aunt came out and said it in an
• 47:38
  interview. He was like if Steph playing
• 47:40
  would have a different story. He even knows he know what Steph
• 47:43
  is about. He hates Steph.
• 47:47
  The Timberwolves 37 year olds. Listen, nobody's taking away
• 47:53
  from Steph Curry's talents. We all know he's one of the best
• 47:56
  three. He has the best 3 point shooter
• 47:58
  we've ever seen in NBA history. I understand what you're saying
• 48:02
  about their If he was healthy, he would give them a little bit
• 48:05
  of a more of a jump offensively. Here's the reason why they were
• 48:09
  not going to win that series even if he was 100% healthy
• 48:12
  because the secondary offense that Steph Curry was getting
• 48:16
  even from Butler. Butler was not the same player
• 48:19
  this year when they made the trade and they brought him in
• 48:21
  from Miami. He wasn't he wasn't even 100%
• 48:24
  healthy and now they have to pay him because he is going.
• 48:28
  They just extended him for the next three years while two years
• 48:32
  they see sond a three-year deal. They're old.
• 48:35
  They're an old team. Draymond Green look at his
• 48:37
  beard. I mean besides him showing his
• 48:39
  private parts on social media, there is nothing I'm interested
• 48:42
  to see him on a basketball court anymore.
• 48:45
  There's no secondary offense. Yeah, you're going to talk about
• 48:48
  Caminga. Caminga is not very friendly
• 48:51
  with Steve Kerr. They tried to trade Caminga at
• 48:54
  the trade deadline, but nobody wanted him.
• 48:56
  And what the the Green Bay, the the, I'm sorry, the the Golden
• 49:00
  State Warriors wanted was a significant amount.
• 49:03
  They traded Andrew Well, they let Andrew Wiggins go, who gave
• 49:07
  him that depth. Defensively, they don't have any
• 49:09
  depth anymore. There's no Splash Brothers.
• 49:12
  This is not a young team. They're not.
• 49:14
  Nobody wants to go there anymore.
• 49:16
  That is a young star. As good as Steph Curry is.
• 49:19
  Steph Curry's an old man. He's 36 years old and he's not
• 49:23
  washed up. But the team is washed up, as
• 49:26
  we've been hearing over the last couple of months, the rumblings
• 49:30
  that Steve Kerr could step down this offseason.
• 49:33
  And if that happens, where do they go in their coaching
• 49:36
  searches? Are they going to go with Mike
• 49:38
  Brown? I know he's Steve Kerr's butt
• 49:40
  buddy. I mean, seriously, there is no
• 49:43
  way Golden State would have won and beat the Timberwolves in
• 49:48
  that series, even with a healthy Steph Curry.
• 49:51
  So whoever you are, what's your name, Sir?
• 49:52
  What's your name? What's his name?
• 49:55
  Jabo, What is his name? He's coming in.
• 49:57
  He he was just going to the bathroom.
• 49:59
  Oh, so he didn't hear my take on it.
• 50:01
  It's a it's. No, no, he heard it.
• 50:03
  No, he heard it. Who do we?
• 50:05
  Who do we have? What's your name, Sir?
• 50:08
  Does he hear us? Yeah.
• 50:10
  What's your take on What do you say, Golden State and what?
• 50:14
  He didn't hear what I had to say.
• 50:15
  That's all right. I heard some.
• 50:17
  Of it. Well, he can hear the replay.
• 50:19
  Most. Of it.
• 50:21
  The fact is is they wouldn't have won even with a.
• 50:23
  Healthy, but I can't hear them. It's okay to me, Steph Curry
• 50:30
  healthy, Steph Curry at 100% of Steph Curry at 80%.
• 50:34
  It wouldn't have mattered. Steph Curry would have scored
• 50:36
  4550 sixty, it wouldn't have mattered.
• 50:39
  They don't have any secondary offense, not enough to get over
• 50:42
  the hump. It gets a team that had Julius
• 50:44
  Randall playing at the top of his game and and they're getting
• 50:48
  enough bench points from guys like Dante Divicenzo and then
• 50:52
  Anthony Edwards. Anthony Edwards is one of the
• 50:54
  most overrated playoff players we've seen in a long time.
• 50:57
  I'm not going to even argue about Anthony Edwards's talents.
• 51:02
  I'm sorry. Yeah, no, we're good.
• 51:04
  OK, so I, I just think that Steph Curry is not even at 100%.
• 51:10
  I don't think Steph Curry would have made a difference as far as
• 51:12
  them moving forward into the the playoffs.
• 51:15
  I just they're a team that needs to rebuild.
• 51:17
  They need to add some youth to that roster and they got to
• 51:20
  decide what they're what they're doing with Steph Curry.
• 51:23
  Because honestly, if I was Steph Curry, I would honestly know
• 51:26
  that I'm not going to win with Golden State.
• 51:28
  I look at other teams, I look at other.
• 51:31
  Teams. I know I got the gist of what he
• 51:33
  was saying before. Yeah.
• 51:35
  So can you hear me? Yeah.
• 51:37
  We hear you. So I heard what you said before
• 51:40
  about like them being old, and you're right about that.
• 51:43
  You know, Ace obviously factors into, you know, when you're
• 51:46
  getting a deep playoff and playing all along and stuff.
• 51:49
  But I feel like. They had a good enough team.
• 51:52
  I think it's not just the age. I think it's the coaching.
• 51:56
  I think it's the development. I feel like that the GM is not
• 51:58
  very good. I feel like he doesn't really
• 51:59
  like they don't know how to develop players.
• 52:02
  Like Flamingo is a very good player and they I didn't play
• 52:05
  them, but like the whole playoffs, they didn't play them
• 52:08
  until they started being in trouble with Minnesota.
• 52:10
  And then when they start playing them, it was too late.
• 52:12
  The dude was all cold and shit. And I was like, you know what?
• 52:16
  I feel like it's not so much the players, it's the it's the
• 52:19
  coaches and it's the the owners. Mike don't Olivia is not the
• 52:23
  best GM. I feel like.
• 52:25
  I feel like my Myers, he was very like he's intuitive.
• 52:28
  He was very like, he was better. He was way better at like
• 52:32
  grabbing players in and around Steph and like, like camaraderie
• 52:37
  was better. Draymond Green's a problem.
• 52:39
  I love him and I hate him. It's a love hate relationship
• 52:41
  with Draymond. I'm not gonna lie to you.
• 52:43
  I feel like if we had Draymond, if we had.
• 52:45
  Jordan Poole, we would have. Oh, stop it.
• 52:47
  You just lost. You just lost respect for me.
• 52:50
  Everything that you said, I was almost saying, wow, this guy
• 52:53
  knows what he's talking about. Then he brings up Jordan Poole.
• 52:55
  Stop with the Jordan Poole. Jordan Poole sucked.
• 52:58
  He was overrated. Came from what?
• 53:00
  He played for Michigan, right? He played for Michigan.
• 53:03
  I mean, he was a decent offensive player, got overpaid
• 53:06
  by the Golden State Warriors and you said Myers.
• 53:08
  If Myers was so good, why did he ditch the Golden State Warriors
• 53:12
  to go and be to go work for a baseball?
• 53:14
  Team. I'm sorry, a football team and
• 53:17
  he, he's a broadcaster now. He ditched the Golden State
• 53:19
  Warriors because he knew this team was going to fall flat on
• 53:22
  their face. That's why it happened.
• 53:24
  And you're going to give them all the compliment, All the
• 53:27
  compliments because he walked out on the Golden State Warriors
• 53:29
  when they were at the highest point.
• 53:30
  Get out of here. Golden State is a washed up team
• 53:33
  that's never going to win a championship again.
• 53:35
  It doesn't matter who they bring in in the offseason.
• 53:38
  This is an old team. And if I was Steph, I'm going to
• 53:41
  a younger team like an OKC Thunder, like a Rockets team
• 53:45
  where I have a chance to win multiple more times if I want to
• 53:48
  win more championships and be considered Kobe Bryant, not
• 53:51
  Michael Jordan, but maybe a Kobe Bryant in the future.
• 53:54
  Before we move on to the next topic, Wes actually has some CFL
• 53:57
  plays of a game that's about to start in 2 minutes, plus 3 1/2
• 53:59
  for Winnipeg. Anytime touchdown for wide
• 54:01
  receiver Joey Cochran and Chaz also has him for the first
• 54:04
  touchdown +4000. That's all I'm saying.
• 54:07
  I'm not taking shots at Steph Curry.
• 54:09
  I know everybody thinks I hate him.
• 54:10
  I don't. I'm not a big fan of his.
• 54:12
  I followed him coming out of Davidson.
• 54:15
  I wanted the Knicks to draft him.
• 54:16
  I just don't like his personality on a basketball
• 54:19
  court. He seems like a nice guy off the
• 54:21
  basketball court. I don't know him personally, and
• 54:24
  if I did, maybe I change my mind about him.
• 54:27
  I know Conor McGregor off the out of the Octagon.
• 54:29
  I met him a couple times. He's an ass.
• 54:32
  So I've, I've always thought I meant to be an asshole and I
• 54:35
  think he's an ass now after meeting him two or three times
• 54:38
  and dealing with his his agent and his team over there with the
• 54:42
  old Irish, Irish people, crazy, crazy people over there.
• 54:46
  So by the way, threaten my life. He can kiss my ass.
• 54:50
  He can kiss my ass. That's all I'm going to say.
• 54:52
  Speaking of kissing my ass, on the Bill Simmons Show, former
• 54:57
  NBAESPNNBA writer Chuck Klosterman compared Cooper Flag
• 55:03
  to deadlift Shrimp. I can't wait for this one.
• 55:06
  He says. Flag could make a few all NBA
• 55:10
  teams like Shrimp did but doesn't see him as a player that
• 55:15
  can dominate. He thinks that Flag Ceiling is
• 55:19
  the second best player on a good team and maybe a third best
• 55:24
  player on a good team. Shrimp was a three time All Star
• 55:28
  and an all NBA player and average 13.9 points per game,
• 55:33
  6.2 rebounds per game, 3.4 assists per game, 0.8 steals a
• 55:38
  game. Who the hell cares Speedy with
• 55:40
  all these stupid statistics? Flag was the National Player of
• 55:44
  the Year, averaging 19.2 points per Game, 7 .5 rebounds per
• 55:48
  game, and 4.2 assess per game. That's all the statistics I
• 55:53
  need. Speedy Flag has been compared to
• 55:57
  players like Kawhi Leonard, Kevin Garnett, Scottie Pippen
• 56:00
  and Tim Duncan by many NBA executives.
• 56:04
  And I'll tell you, I'm not an NBA executive.
• 56:06
  But you know who I compare him to?
• 56:08
  Kevin Durant. Here's the white Kevin Durant.
• 56:12
  I watched this kid play from 8th grade on.
• 56:15
  I've watched this guy develop all the way from Maine, and he
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  has become one of the best players in the country in four
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  years. We've been working on trying to
• 56:24
  get him on this show. We all know his capable talents.
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  He went to Duke. Why did he go to Duke?
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  Because Duke is one of the best collegiate schools in all of
• 56:34
  college basketball, and he got recruited by who?
• 56:38
  The greatest coach in college basketball history and Coach
• 56:41
  Kay. I sit here today and I'm going
• 56:44
  to sell this and I'm going to put this on a platter for all
• 56:48
  you Dallas Maverick fans out there.
• 56:51
  You can put in a betting option and if they build a casino over
• 56:54
  there in Dallas, good for them. You can bet that if I'm right
• 56:58
  about this, you'll be a millionaire.
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  Cooper Flag is going to be the face of United States
• 57:03
  basketball. Cooper Flag is going to average
• 57:06
  between 25 and 30 points per game, 8 rebounds per game and he
• 57:10
  is going to be a two way basketball player.
• 57:13
  He will be the best player on The Mavericks in three years
• 57:17
  with Kyrie Irving, Anthony Davis and all those mongrels.
• 57:21
  OK, no matter who's there, Cooper Flag is going to be the
• 57:25
  best player there. I'm going to tell you this right
• 57:27
  now. This writer, I don't know him
• 57:30
  personally and I don't, I don't care where he comes from.
• 57:33
  Chuck Klosterman. And he's going to need a
• 57:35
  Klosterman bag because that's where he's going to be pissing
• 57:39
  out of when somebody shoots him. OK?
• 57:41
  This guy's an idiot. He is not smart, and this is a
• 57:45
  ridiculous take. Deadlift Shrimp.
• 57:48
  OK, I like Deadlift shrimp. I've watched him when he played
• 57:51
  for the SuperSonics. He was a good player.
• 57:53
  He played with Shawn Kemp, he played with Gary Payton.
• 57:57
  He played with a bunch of good players and he also had a chance
• 58:00
  at one point, I think, if I'm not mistaken, play with Dick
• 58:02
  Tempe Matumbo. I am not going to sit here.
• 58:07
  Yes, I am going to tell you this and I'm not trying to sell you
• 58:11
  guys anything you don't know. Deadlift Shrimp was a good
• 58:14
  player. He is not, I repeat he is not
• 58:18
  Cooper flag and for anybody that thinks that just shows you how
• 58:22
  clueless you are when it comes to basketball.
• 58:25
  And Bill Simmons, for you to have Chuck Glasturman on your
• 58:29
  show, shame on you. I loved your Celtic City, even
• 58:33
  though I couldn't stand the green and white.
• 58:35
  I I give you a lot of credit for the production end of it, but
• 58:38
  I'll tell you this right now, it's very cunning, it's very
• 58:42
  supportive when you have this fool and Bill Simmons, who's
• 58:46
  about 5 foot 5, couldn't step on a basketball court and
• 58:49
  everybody's. Telling you he's 6.
• 58:51
  Three, I don't care if he's 63, to me he's he's 5 foot 5 on his
• 58:55
  little camera. OK, He's a small little bitch
• 58:58
  who has Chuck Closter bag on his show speaking absolutely
• 59:04
  ridiculousness about one of the best American players we have
• 59:08
  seen come out of College in about 25 years.
• 59:12
  It's shameful. It's absolutely shameful.
• 59:15
  And by the way. Who would you compare Cooper to?
• 59:18
  I just said it. He said White Durant.
• 59:20
  The white Kevin Durant, I think he's going to be Kevin Durant.
• 59:23
  Kevin Durant came into the league and I'll explain
• 59:25
  something to you when he played for Texas.
• 59:28
  Anybody remember him with the Longhorns?
• 59:30
  He was a good shooter. I watched him in college.
• 59:33
  I was there with him. He was a good shooter.
• 59:36
  He wasn't a great shooter. He developed his shooting
• 59:39
  ability in three years in the NBA.
• 59:41
  What Kevin Durant, Durant was really, really good at.
• 59:44
  He was long and he could do everything good.
• 59:46
  He was a good rebounder. He wasn't much of A passer, but
• 59:49
  he could shoot anywhere on the perimeter.
• 59:51
  He could dominate anywhere within 18 to 19 feet in right to
• 59:55
  the hole and he was so fancy. He was so fun to watch and
• 59:58
  energetic and he he was an interesting personality.
• 1:00:02
  That's Cooper flag guys. What do you think?
• 1:00:04
  Cooper go watch the videos of Kevin Durant.
• 1:00:07
  This is how I kind of compared and contrast these guys.
• 1:00:10
  Now, is he going to be Kevin Durant as a three-point shooter?
• 1:00:13
  Probably not. But if you get, if you're if
• 1:00:16
  Cooper flags averaging between 42 percent, 43% at the
• 1:00:21
  three-point line, I would even say a little bit less, let's say
• 1:00:24
  3938. If you get 39% of your 3
• 1:00:28
  pointers in, Cooper flags can average between 25 and 30 points
• 1:00:32
  a game. He's just is and he's a good
• 1:00:34
  free throw shooter. He's a as a rookie.
• 1:00:37
  No, he's going to average. I think he's going to average
• 1:00:39
  between 21 and 22 points next year.
• 1:00:43
  That's what he's going to be averaging.
• 1:00:44
  That's where I think he's going to be.
• 1:00:45
  And he's going to give you about six to seven rebounds and about
• 1:00:49
  3 assists. That's where I think Cooper
• 1:00:51
  flags going to be. And the reason why is he's not
• 1:00:53
  going to have Kyrie Irving all season.
• 1:00:55
  So he's going to be young and everything.
• 1:00:57
  All the offense is going to go through him.
• 1:00:59
  And then you have Anthony Davis, who is old.
• 1:01:02
  And we don't know if Anthony Davis is coming back.
• 1:01:04
  So all the offense is going to be going through Cooper flag.
• 1:01:07
  And Cooper Flag is going to get a chance to develop a lot sooner
• 1:01:10
  than later because he doesn't have Mr. Ball hog himself, Kyrie
• 1:01:13
  Irving chucking up threes. So that's why I think it's gonna
• 1:01:17
  go. Yeah, I was gonna say like that
• 1:01:18
  with Shrimp. Seems like a guy that's a good
• 1:01:20
  modern comparison for today's NBA.
• 1:01:22
  But like, for what he was at the time, like he still had flaws as
• 1:01:25
  a player. Too You think shrimp is is
• 1:01:27
  Cooper flag? Cooper flag's a lot better.
• 1:01:30
  I'm getting it. I'm just saying.
• 1:01:31
  I'm just saying like I think if shrimp playing in today's game,
• 1:01:34
  maybe he's good. But yeah, definitely nowhere
• 1:01:36
  close. Cooper flag as a as a prospect,
• 1:01:39
  like you said, Kevin Durant. We've heard all these other
• 1:01:40
  comparisons like the upside is Hall of Famer as it is and he
• 1:01:44
  does a lot more than his stats even show too.
• 1:01:46
  When it came to smart passing, smart shooting and could
• 1:01:49
  well-rounded defender, better defender than Durant was as a
• 1:01:52
  prospect. And Durant was a little taller
• 1:01:54
  and longer at the time when he came out.
• 1:01:57
  But flag still has a lot of room to grow.
• 1:01:58
  He's growing his body at a 19 years old.
• 1:02:01
  He does a lot of different things that left.
• 1:02:02
  Shrem did not do all those things.
• 1:02:04
  He was flawed defensively for that time.
• 1:02:06
  He was not nearly as athletic. So I think the comparison is
• 1:02:09
  ridiculous, even though I do. I guess I do think Shrem would
• 1:02:11
  play better in today's game. But Cooper.
• 1:02:14
  That's not what he say. That's not.
• 1:02:15
  That's not what anyone should be saying when you're comparing him
• 1:02:18
  to Cooper Flag, who's considered this generational talent and has
• 1:02:21
  already shown a lot of it. He's not raw in really anything
• 1:02:24
  at this point. It's just, it's ridiculous.
• 1:02:27
  It's a really ridiculous statement, it really is.
• 1:02:30
  And by the way, dentless shrimp averaged about 38.4% behind the
• 1:02:34
  three-point line. So if you want to save the
• 1:02:36
  comparable shooting ability of dentless shrimp and Cooper flag
• 1:02:40
  at the three-point line, that might be comparable.
• 1:02:43
  His game is all around game. Not a chance as far as
• 1:02:46
  comparability. But look at this guy Errol.
• 1:02:49
  Look look at the the German assassin himself that left
• 1:02:52
  shrimp was that great sidekick third wheel Camp and Gary Payton
• 1:02:57
  on those Sonics teams. I was with the Pacers as well.
• 1:03:01
  That is a three time All Star. He made it one third team all
• 1:03:05
  NBA and was a great you know, third guy on the team.
• 1:03:09
  One of the best of the 90s. We all remember him, but but no
• 1:03:14
  one remembers him as a star. And that's kind of this
• 1:03:17
  argument, right? Like if you're a really great
• 1:03:19
  player, goofy this guy is. Plasterman, look at how goofy
• 1:03:23
  this guy is in the corner. First off, I he looks like very
• 1:03:26
  interesting looking kind of looks.
• 1:03:28
  He also has written lots of crazy books and cultural books.
• 1:03:31
  I rest my kids selling books. I rest my kids.
• 1:03:34
  He was he was one of the original writers on Grantland,
• 1:03:37
  Bill Simmons kind of landmark thing that made him famous being
• 1:03:40
  him super rich rather. So to me, like this take is
• 1:03:45
  really fascinating because he's saying that flag doesn't have
• 1:03:49
  elite athleticism. Not wrong, very good, not elite,
• 1:03:52
  doesn't have elite pretty much anything, but very good at
• 1:03:57
  almost everything. Does that make you an elite
• 1:03:59
  player in the NBA or does that make you a great second banana?
• 1:04:03
  That's interesting. That's what he was saying to me.
• 1:04:06
  I don't think Shrem's the right comparison.
• 1:04:08
  Here's the guy I was thinking of and when I watched him in
• 1:04:12
  college. So I'd say I'll give you some of
• 1:04:14
  the guard skills of Durant as a big is, but I.
• 1:04:17
  Is jokic elite? Is Jokic elite as far as
• 1:04:20
  athletic? Ability Yokich 71, We know.
• 1:04:23
  That I'm just saying Yokich all right let's.
• 1:04:26
  Elite. Elite athletically.
• 1:04:28
  Yeah, Luka Dodgic is instead 100% no.
• 1:04:31
  He's not it well more like a coordination and like
• 1:04:33
  understanding the game like IQ that kind of athletic the.
• 1:04:36
  First thing that pops into your head about Jokic is not his
• 1:04:39
  athletic ability. OK, not the how hot, not his
• 1:04:41
  vertical leap yes, you don't think about Jokic's vertical
• 1:04:44
  leap or his lateral defense. You know that he does do a good
• 1:04:47
  job defense so he's. Not his technique.
• 1:04:49
  But athleticism is part there's. There's different aspects of it.
• 1:04:54
  If Jokic has athletic ability, like they're talking about elite
• 1:04:58
  athletic ability, so does Cooper flag If you're going to sit here
• 1:05:01
  and tell me that Jokic has a has more athletic ability.
• 1:05:05
  He's one of the best players in the NBA.
• 1:05:06
  Yes, because he does everything right.
• 1:05:08
  His technique is as good as anybody we've seen.
• 1:05:11
  So it's so. Nine, though, it's technique,
• 1:05:14
  difference in athleticism, yes, it's different.
• 1:05:16
  He has to. He has to be athletic, to be
• 1:05:18
  technical. That's not true.
• 1:05:20
  That's not true. That's not true, non.
• 1:05:23
  Basketball is not the case. Non basketball.
• 1:05:25
  You're either an above The Who player or below The Who player,
• 1:05:27
  and Yokich is decidedly a below The Who player.
• 1:05:29
  Doesn't mean he's not great at it.
• 1:05:31
  It just means that very often in the NBA we know Yokich is a one
• 1:05:35
  of one. Like no one's ever played the
• 1:05:36
  way Yokich plays. Let's just face it, Flag, he's
• 1:05:40
  not going to be that tall. He's a six, nine guy.
• 1:05:42
  He's going to be a power forward body.
• 1:05:44
  Luka. Dodgek.
• 1:05:45
  So I wasn't thinking of him. When I watch, he goes to the
• 1:05:49
  hoop with such an enthusiasm. He's so much better going to the
• 1:05:52
  hoop than those guys with more athleticism.
• 1:05:55
  It reminds me a little bit of Blake Griffin in college.
• 1:05:58
  Not the same height, but the way that he drives to the hoop with
• 1:06:01
  that kind. Of Blake Griffin.
• 1:06:02
  Stop, Blake. Griffin choose the second pick
• 1:06:04
  and. Yeah, but he couldn't shoot.
• 1:06:06
  He couldn't. Shoot, I that's why I'm saying a
• 1:06:08
  mix of Blake Griffin and the guard skills of Durant from
• 1:06:11
  college, because he goes to the because Durant didn't drive the
• 1:06:13
  hoop like that. No, no way, no way.
• 1:06:16
  Not the way that he's doing it. It's kind of LeBron esque almost
• 1:06:19
  the way that he goes to the hoop and as he's windmill dunks, he's
• 1:06:22
  obviously not the same physical specimen.
• 1:06:24
  But I mean, is he going to be able to do that against NBA?
• 1:06:30
  Guys, let me ask Costum in this OK, If he knows so much about
• 1:06:34
  the NBA, who was the most dominant player at the Olympics
• 1:06:38
  during the practices against all the stars for Team USA, Let me
• 1:06:42
  ask you. Just took that my next sentence
• 1:06:44
  out of my mouth. Let's hear it.
• 1:06:46
  Let's hear it. Colostromy.
• 1:06:47
  Colostromy bag. Whatever.
• 1:06:48
  What do you call it? A colostomy bag.
• 1:06:50
  That's why. Colostomy bag.
• 1:06:52
  That's why I called him a colostomy bag.
• 1:06:54
  OK, here's what I'm going to say to Mr. Colostomy bag.
• 1:06:58
  All right, the best player on the basketball court during
• 1:07:02
  those practices were, and it's been said by Anthony Davis,
• 1:07:07
  LeBron James and all those guys. You know what they said, the
• 1:07:11
  number one player on the basketball court during those
• 1:07:14
  practice was Cooper Flag and all those athletic guys, Anthony
• 1:07:18
  Edwards, Joel Embiid, all those unbelievable athletically
• 1:07:23
  talented players that we've seen for Team USA all these years.
• 1:07:28
  That guy was the most athletic one on the basketball court.
• 1:07:31
  So kiss my ass, Closter me bag, all right?
• 1:07:34
  That's the most. My mistake.
• 1:07:36
  Blake Griffin was the number one pick just like this.
• 1:07:38
  I don't know why I thought he was second.
• 1:07:40
  Hachim Pabit was second in that draft.
• 1:07:42
  Remember Hashim Pabit? Oh my goodness.
• 1:07:45
  But look, Blake Griffin, when we think about him now, he had a
• 1:07:50
  couple of great years when he had that athleticism.
• 1:07:53
  He lost the athleticism and he was a role player.
• 1:07:55
  He's not going to be a Hall of Famer.
• 1:07:57
  And that's that's kind of a plaster.
• 1:08:00
  Been saying he's not a Hall of Famer.
• 1:08:01
  No way, Blake. Griffin Speedy How long has
• 1:08:03
  Blake Griffin been dominant on in the NBA?
• 1:08:05
  He might be he. Might be 7 years.
• 1:08:08
  I would say probably seven years.
• 1:08:09
  Look, look it up. Look it up.
• 1:08:11
  Because he went to the Pistons and was terrible.
• 1:08:13
  I'm asking Chris Paul. When he was with Chris Paul and
• 1:08:15
  they were doing him and DeAndre Jordan.
• 1:08:17
  That was awesome basketball. They were great.
• 1:08:20
  Never won anything, you know. The NBA is weird and they get
• 1:08:24
  everybody gets into the the NBA Hall of Fame now.
• 1:08:26
  So the reason why I thought of Blake Griffin is you were
• 1:08:29
  saying, you know, points per game for Cooper Flag would be
• 1:08:31
  around 2122. So I'm looking at the highest
• 1:08:34
  points per game for a rookie in NBA history.
• 1:08:37
  And if you go down to around 22 points per game, you get Blake
• 1:08:40
  Griffin 22.5 points per game in 2010.
• 1:08:44
  So I think that's a pretty good comp for what you can expect
• 1:08:48
  from him. Now, if he has the as a rookie
• 1:08:50
  Durant, he'd be better than Blake Griffin.
• 1:08:52
  As a rookie, he's not going to average 22 points a game for his
• 1:08:55
  whole career. He's going to average a lot more
• 1:08:57
  than that. I'm telling you, I don't know.
• 1:08:59
  I think that they'd build the offense around him, but then
• 1:09:01
  again, maybe he likes drinking a beer after he finishes a
• 1:09:04
  basketball. Dude, that guy lives.
• 1:09:06
  That guy lives. This guy lives and sleeps
• 1:09:09
  basketball. Anybody that knows anything
• 1:09:12
  about Cooper Flag and how energetic and his personality
• 1:09:16
  is, everything that we've heard about him, he lives in sleeps
• 1:09:20
  basketball. He don't even play video games.
• 1:09:22
  He's out on the basketball court try, you know, trying to get
• 1:09:25
  better. He's that type of player.
• 1:09:27
  I'm telling you right now, Cooper Flag is going to be a
• 1:09:29
  2530 point guy In three years, he's going to be one of the best
• 1:09:32
  American players. We're going to be considering
• 1:09:34
  him the face of United States basketball.
• 1:09:36
  Mark my words. I'm telling you right now, you
• 1:09:39
  could sit this in your heads and when it comes back to me 3-4
• 1:09:42
  years from now and I told, I tell you, I told you so I'm
• 1:09:46
  going to tell you. You guys were absolutely wrong.
• 1:09:47
  And Mr. Colostomy bag is not going to have another job
• 1:09:50
  because he's an idiot and he should just stay on Bill Simmons
• 1:09:53
  podcast because the guy, the only thing he preaches is I'm
• 1:09:58
  not even going to say it anyways.
• 1:09:59
  Yeah, it was a 5. Year I don't want to throw
• 1:10:00
  myself. I've thrown myself really out
• 1:10:03
  there, so I don't want to throw myself deeper, but I think you
• 1:10:06
  guys got my drift. I don't think Bill Simmons knows
• 1:10:09
  what he's talking about. I don't think this guy clout.
• 1:10:11
  He is 6/3 though. I don't care he is 6/3.
• 1:10:14
  He looks like a shrimp to me. I don't care how tall he is.
• 1:10:17
  Maybe nothing like a shrimp cocktail.
• 1:10:18
  I I mean, I don't care if he's 63, he's Jabba size, but he
• 1:10:23
  looks like he looks like this. He looks like a little pinky.
• 1:10:26
  That's what he looks. Like he's a skinny guy.
• 1:10:28
  That's what to me, I don't care how tall you are, if you're a
• 1:10:31
  little rail, nobody gives a crap.
• 1:10:33
  It was a great show. Thank you to Jabba at the World
• 1:10:35
  Series, the College World Series.
• 1:10:37
  Thank you to Goody for joining us.
• 1:10:39
  Congratulations to Goody on another win.
• 1:10:42
  So congratulations to him and extra OT.
• 1:10:46
  Thank you to all the fans on social media.
• 1:10:48
  Thank you to again back to the fans, all the Blue Wire fans
• 1:10:51
  that are tuning in to us and checking out our stuff, all the
• 1:10:54
  fans on TikTok, Twitter, Facebook, all of them Spotify
• 1:11:00
  video, Spotify audio, Apple audio, all the different
• 1:11:04
  platforms. Thank you all that all all of
• 1:11:06
  you guys. I will not be here on Monday and
• 1:11:08
  Thursday next week. I'll be on vacation.
• 1:11:10
  So you will have Java. You all fish runt helping out
• 1:11:13
  and helping run the show. You'll have Tommy off speedy off
• 1:11:16
  Nick. You'll have all the whole crew
• 1:11:19
  and even our interns, but you will not have me.
• 1:11:21
  So I might sneak in maybe if I have if I can on on the boat.
• 1:11:27
  I'll sneak. We don't.
• 1:11:27
  We don't want you. You're on the boat.
• 1:11:29
  Go enjoy it, you stupid ass. I.
• 1:11:32
  Mean you could pay $30.00 for 5 minutes of Wi-Fi to call in.
• 1:11:35
  I guess no, actually we have free Wi-Fi.
• 1:11:37
  I paid for it. There you go.
• 1:11:38
  I paid for already. So all right, that's it.
• 1:11:41
  Can I? It is the worldwide Sports Radio
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  network.