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S2 Ep2 - More Than an Influencer: Lisa Keller's life of Storytelling · The Booth Juice Creative Podcast

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SPEAKER_00: All the juice straight from the makeup booth.
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SPEAKER_00: Welcome to the Booth Juice.
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SPEAKER_00: Welcome back to another episode of The Booth Juice.
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SPEAKER_00: My next guest today is a very dear friend of mine, and I'm so excited to finally have her on.
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SPEAKER_00: She is my go-to for Far North Queensland recommendations.
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SPEAKER_00: She is the wedding content queen, and she's even had a handful of her videos go viral.
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SPEAKER_00: So please welcome Lisa Keller.
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SPEAKER_00: Thanks for having me, Rain.
0:30
SPEAKER_00: Thank you so much for coming on.
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SPEAKER_00: I am so excited to get into your wonderfully busy world.
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SPEAKER_00: So I might pass over to you to explain what your world looks like for those who don't know you.
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SPEAKER_00: I feel like I have a few different worlds.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so basically I do content, content creator.
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SPEAKER_01: I have two pages.
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SPEAKER_01: One is based on Port Douglas, Tropical North Queensland, and the other one is my wedding content page, so event diaries, which you know all about.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so I kind of yeah, create content both travel-based and wedding wedding stuff as well.
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SPEAKER_00: Amazing.
1:06
SPEAKER_01: Oh, busy, busy.
1:07
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: So I feel like because you've got a lot of followers and a lot of people do go to you for Port Douglas recommendations.
1:14
SPEAKER_00: I feel like they probably think that you've lived here your whole life, but that's not actually the case.
1:20
SPEAKER_01: No, I moved up here at the start of 2023.
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SPEAKER_01: So I've only been here just over three years.
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SPEAKER_01: Um, I'd never been here before I moved here.
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SPEAKER_01: Um so yeah, I've kind of just came in and fell in love with it.
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SPEAKER_01: And the reason I started the page in the first place was because I had never really heard of Port Douglas, I'd never, it was never really on my radar.
1:38
SPEAKER_01: Obviously, you know about the Great Berry Reef, you know the dangry and everything, but Port Douglas itself, coming from Melbourne, was never on my radar.
1:46
SPEAKER_01: And then I moved up here and I was like, why is no one talking about this?
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SPEAKER_01: Like, why does no one know about this place?
1:51
SPEAKER_01: Like, why are people not coming here?
1:52
SPEAKER_01: And I was like, I'm just gonna start a page.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, just because I mainly because I didn't want to bombard my friends back home with like on my personal page.
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SPEAKER_01: I was like, I'll just start a new one and share my photos and stuff, and yeah, it's kind of just grown from there.
2:02
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, amazing.
2:04
SPEAKER_00: So moving to Port Douglas, your first like can you please explain more about how that came about?
2:11
SPEAKER_00: That is a bold move.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, well, at the time I was living with um my partner, we were living in Adelaide and it was cold and it was miserable.
2:19
SPEAKER_01: And um, he got an invitation to come and play for the local footy team, the Crocs.
2:24
SPEAKER_01: We had a few of mates that were playing, and they were like, why don't you just come up and play?
2:27
SPEAKER_01: They'd actually been hounding him for a few years, and we were like, No, we're not ready, we're not ready.
2:30
SPEAKER_01: And then, yeah, one day we'll just like stuff it, like, let's go.
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SPEAKER_01: Neither of us had ever been here.
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SPEAKER_01: The furthest north I'd ever been was the sunny coast.
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SPEAKER_01: So, like, I'd never even been this far.
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SPEAKER_01: And we were like, let's just go for a year, let's if we hate it, we'll come back.
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SPEAKER_01: Like, what's the worst that can happen?
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SPEAKER_01: And yeah, we haven't looked back.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you hear these stories of people like, yeah, you know, I came for six months and I stayed for 10 years, and I was like, Yeah, whatever.
2:53
SPEAKER_01: And then I got here and I was like, Oh yeah, I see how that happens.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh my god, that's amazing.
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SPEAKER_00: So you were in Adelaide for a bit.
3:01
SPEAKER_00: How long were you in Adelaide for?
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SPEAKER_01: Um, I think over COVID.
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SPEAKER_01: So we we were we we had been traveling and then got home, had no money, obviously.
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SPEAKER_01: So moved in um with Sam's parents, and then COVID happened, so that was like 2019-2020, and then moved up here in 2023.
3:17
SPEAKER_01: So four years.
3:18
SPEAKER_00: Amazing, cool.
3:20
SPEAKER_01: I've been here there and everywhere.
3:21
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, I was gonna say, so then you but you grew up in Melbourne, did you?
3:24
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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SPEAKER_00: So it was it kind of like Melbourne and then Adelaide and traveling in between.
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SPEAKER_01: Melbourne, and then I went traveling and met my partner, and then we were from different states, and so we decided to move to mutual ground and we moved to Byron Bay.
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SPEAKER_01: Cool.
3:36
SPEAKER_01: Um, it was very cool.
3:37
SPEAKER_01: Um, you save absolutely no money in Byron Bay and you don't get anywhere, but you have a lot of fun.
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SPEAKER_01: Um, so we stayed there for a bit and then we decided we want to go and do some traveling, and because we couldn't save any money there, because you know you don't want to work that much and you're going out all the time.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so we moved back to Melbourne, saved some money, and then we went overseas.
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SPEAKER_00: Amazing, cool.
3:56
SPEAKER_00: And where did you go the first time?
3:57
SPEAKER_00: Because I know you've just been on trip, we'll talk about that in a minute.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but uh the first big trip we went to South America, so we did nine months in Central and South America.
4:04
SPEAKER_00: Oh my god, incredible!
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SPEAKER_01: It was amazing.
4:07
SPEAKER_00: Any any highlight out of that?
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SPEAKER_01: Um, Mexico is one of my favorite countries in the world, and Peru and Bolivia is so underrated and amazing.
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SPEAKER_01: Highly, highly, highly recommend.
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SPEAKER_00: It's amazing.
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SPEAKER_01: Very cool, adding to the list.
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SPEAKER_00: Yes, oh, that's so cool.
4:23
SPEAKER_00: So then, so you've moved up here with Sam, he's doing footy.
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SPEAKER_00: What do you go straight into?
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SPEAKER_00: Like, what were you doing?
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SPEAKER_00: Did you have a trade or any sort of thing?
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so I studied media and communication.
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SPEAKER_01: I did a bit of like TV stuff, journalism stuff um before moving up here.
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SPEAKER_01: And then coming up here, I was kind of like, I don't know, I just want to do something chill.
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SPEAKER_01: I wanted to move up here and just like experience a life and whatever.
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SPEAKER_01: So I want to work to Quicksilver.
4:48
SPEAKER_02: Awesome.
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SPEAKER_01: Um, and then I was there for a little bit and then I went and started working for Newsport and the Port Douglas magazine and got back into writing and and that kind of thing.
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SPEAKER_01: And then that's when my page kind of started.
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SPEAKER_01: That's kind of what inspired me to start the page a bit.
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SPEAKER_01: Um, and then yeah, went from there.
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SPEAKER_00: I find that doing journalism gave you more opportunities, go and check things out.
5:09
SPEAKER_00: Completely separate.
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SPEAKER_00: 100%.
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SPEAKER_01: Like working for the Port Douglas magazine.
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SPEAKER_01: Obviously, I got to know the town, know the tourism industry a bit better, know what's available, and then that's kind of yeah, what really opened my eyes to what's here.
5:19
SPEAKER_00: That's awesome.
5:20
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so then are you still doing journalism?
5:24
SPEAKER_00: I still write for the man every now and then.
5:26
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
5:26
SPEAKER_01: I actually have an interview, a few interviews today to do with people, um, which I love.
5:30
SPEAKER_01: I love writing, and it's a good way to break up like the video and photo content with something else, and it's vice versa.
5:36
SPEAKER_01: Like sometimes if you're writing full-time, you're just like, oh my god, I cannot write anymore, like your brain just stops working.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so it's nice to be able to break it up and go between the two.
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SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
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SPEAKER_01: And it's so fun to write for them, like it's such such fun articles.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, beautiful things, yeah.
5:49
SPEAKER_00: Um, and you did radio in amongst all of that at some point, too.
5:53
SPEAKER_00: I feel like you've got you've break it in radio.
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SPEAKER_00: You've got video, audio, and writing going on.
5:59
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I did um news radio for a little bit when I was in Adelaide, so they just crossed to me for news bites every half an hour or so.
6:05
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
6:06
SPEAKER_00: It's so cool.
6:06
SPEAKER_00: Is there anything that like out of the three of them, what's your favourite?
6:11
SPEAKER_01: Or you go through phases.
6:12
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I go through phases.
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SPEAKER_01: I feel like you do one and then you kind of fall out of love with it for a little bit and then you move on to something else, and you're like, oh my god, I miss doing this so much.
6:18
SPEAKER_01: And you kind of just go around.
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SPEAKER_01: So it's nice to have the variety.
6:20
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's so good.
6:22
SPEAKER_01: I feel like creativity is like flows through all of those so well as well.
6:26
SPEAKER_01: So you can and like you don't understand, like sometimes you like as a creative mind, like you get it and you just it's not your day.
6:31
SPEAKER_01: Like some days I go to edit and I'm like, I cannot edit today, like it's not it.
6:34
SPEAKER_01: So like I'll go do one or the other thing.
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SPEAKER_01: And I'll come back to this when my mind's more in exactly in the mood.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, amazing.
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SPEAKER_00: So you're at a point now where you're still doing a bit of journalism, but majority you are doing event diaries and cabin diaries stuff.
6:50
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: So for those who don't know what event diaries is, what exactly do you offer there?
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SPEAKER_01: So event diaries is wedding content creation.
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SPEAKER_01: Well, event content creation, but it's mainly weddings.
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SPEAKER_01: Um, so yeah, basically I'll go to weddings alongside the photographer and sometimes the videographer and shoot content on my phone.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Um, everyone will get it.
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SPEAKER_01: Well the bride and groom, not everyone.
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SPEAKER_01: The bride and groom will get it the next day, um, and then in two days get some edited videos so they can share with their friends and family or put on Instagram or whatever they want to do.
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SPEAKER_01: So it's a really quick turnaround.
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SPEAKER_01: It's a really great way for people while they're waiting for their photos and videos, which take a little bit longer, to be able to have something to relive their day and to be able to share it with people that maybe weren't there.
7:27
SPEAKER_00: Or yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Speaking from experience, Lisa shot my wedding last year, and honestly, like 15 out of 10, I give you because you were so efficient.
7:38
SPEAKER_00: The next day I had a whole Google Drive full of stuff, which was so fun because me and my bridal party kind of laid in bed and got to like watch it all again and relive it.
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SPEAKER_00: And because I mean, as the bride, your day goes so quickly.
7:51
SPEAKER_00: You miss so much that you miss.
7:52
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, talking to everyone, like I didn't even eat, like it was like next level.
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SPEAKER_00: So being able to relive that, I was like, oh my god, they got to see that and they did that.
8:02
SPEAKER_00: Oh, they were on the dance floor, and oh, I didn't remember that.
8:05
SPEAKER_00: So that I think was just yeah, so special.
8:08
SPEAKER_01: It's really nice, and then like, yeah, because the bride and group, your day goes so quick, and you're being pulled in a hundred different directions, and you don't get to see everything that you've planned.
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SPEAKER_01: You spend all this time planning your day, and it's nice to be able to see people enjoying that that you may have missed otherwise, which is really nice.
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SPEAKER_01: It's so funny.
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SPEAKER_01: I still have all of your wedding stuff on my phone.
8:23
SPEAKER_01: It's literally been a year.
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SPEAKER_00: I don't know how you have so much storage at free.
8:27
SPEAKER_01: I'm like most of them I'll like put on an SD card and then I'll just like get them off my phone.
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SPEAKER_01: But there's some weddings that I like to pull from just for my own content, and your day was so beautiful that I was like, I'm just gonna leave that on there because you never know what little snippets I'm gonna be.
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SPEAKER_01: And then like when I was on my trip, I was like, oh my god, I need to delete stuff and like Ray's wedding.
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SPEAKER_01: No, I'll keep that on there just in case.
8:43
SPEAKER_00: Oh, that's so sweet.
8:45
SPEAKER_00: Oh my god, I love that.
8:46
SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
8:47
SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah.
8:48
SPEAKER_00: Oh, so how is the wedding season going for you?
8:50
SPEAKER_00: Are you busy?
8:51
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'm I feel so grateful.
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SPEAKER_01: Like it's only my second year.
8:55
SPEAKER_01: Like, I started last year, so last year was my first season.
8:58
SPEAKER_01: This is my second season, and I've doubled my bookings from last year.
9:02
SPEAKER_01: I yeah, I just feel really grateful that I'm in a place where weddings are so fruitful, like there are so many of them, and you know, people are really open to the idea of having a wedding content creator.
9:11
SPEAKER_01: Um, and the industry here has been really great, like working with the other vendors, everyone's really been really supportive and like helping me get my name out there and everything.
9:18
SPEAKER_01: And yeah, so it's really busy, and I'm really yeah, really happy that you know it's kind of taken off.
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SPEAKER_00: And I feel like there's been such a push for content creation in events and particularly weddings as well.
9:31
SPEAKER_00: Like, obviously, you try get your traditional photographer, but not everyone wants that.
9:35
SPEAKER_00: Not everyone is into having a million photos the entire day.
9:39
SPEAKER_01: And having a pose, like a lot of my stuff's very candid.
9:41
SPEAKER_01: Like, I can't a lot of the time people say that they didn't even know I was there, and that's very much my approach.
9:46
SPEAKER_01: Like, very fly on the wall, um, you do your day, I'm not gonna intervene, and I'll just capture everything.
9:51
SPEAKER_01: And then, like, I was like, Oh my god, I didn't even know that you were there shooting that.
9:53
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, oh no.
9:54
SPEAKER_00: I know, even when I was looking back through, you had drone shots of like the whole venue, and like I got married at my parents' property, so that was very special for me to have like a different angle of it, too, to really zoom out and go, Oh my god, what a beautiful day, and how hard we worked to get the property beautiful.
10:10
SPEAKER_01: Oh my god, and that sort of stuff.
10:12
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so the journey in that it was so good to watch, like just watching it all transform, like you're on a little tractor, like chugging the lot.
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SPEAKER_00: I feel like there's been such a push for content creators and stuff on wedding days because you know, obviously, traditionally you get your photographer and everything, but it's so wonderful to be able to relive more candid moments because, like the next day I had an entire Google Drive full of stuff from you, and it included videos and photos, and then camcorder stuff and drone stuff, and it was so wonderful to be able to relive that through all the different angles.
10:43
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's really nice.
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SPEAKER_01: I think like there's so much of the day that goes missed, and especially as the bride and groom, like you know, you're getting pulled in a hundred different directions, and like you're there's so much on your mind of like how the day's gonna work that it's probably nice to have someone like me who's just gonna capture everything, and then you get to see, you know, your guests enjoying the cocktail bar that you spent an uh you know a year organizing, or uh little things like that that you otherwise would have gone unnoticed.
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SPEAKER_01: So yeah, I think people really appreciate the the candid, the candidness of it, and just seeing people enjoying the day and remembering how it felt as well, not just like the stage kind of photos, which are beautiful and definitely needed, but there's also this other side now that's coming through of people wanting to see, yeah, just how the day actually unfolded with you know, just raw.
11:24
SPEAKER_00: Yes, absolutely.
11:25
SPEAKER_00: Oh, it's just yeah, it's so beautiful.
11:27
SPEAKER_00: I'm so grateful that you came along because yeah, I've got so much footage, and I feel like I should be posting more of it.
11:33
SPEAKER_00: But then again, like I feel like I've got footage.
11:35
SPEAKER_00: That's the thing, you know, like posting fatigue.
11:38
SPEAKER_01: So many of my couples don't actually post on social media.
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SPEAKER_01: Like, I think there's this like connotation that oh, you're getting a content creator, like what who do you think you are?
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SPEAKER_01: But it's like it's not actually about posting on social media, it's more about having the footage, and I feel like there should be a different kind of name other than content creator because it yeah, people just think that oh, you just want to do TikToks and you want to make trend videos, and that's not what it's about at all.
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SPEAKER_00: Absolutely not, yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: It is, it's actually like a lot of the videos, like you've got audio on them too.
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SPEAKER_00: Like, I was reliving, like I was hearing people have a conversation at the reception, and I was like, oh cool.
12:10
SPEAKER_00: I'm always so conscious of that.
12:11
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, oh my god, what if you capture something and then there's audio on this and they shouldn't be talking about that?
12:16
SPEAKER_00: It's not on me.
12:17
SPEAKER_00: Well, I didn't hear any of that, everything was lovely, so that's good.
12:21
SPEAKER_00: Um, but yeah, you're so good at just like sort of blending in the background, and I honestly I feel like I didn't even really see you.
12:27
SPEAKER_00: Like, obviously, my photographer and stuff are very much like stand here, do this, do that.
12:32
SPEAKER_00: But you I felt like you just naturally sort of floated around.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's very much my approach, is like fly on the wall type thing.
12:37
SPEAKER_01: I don't want to be in there because it takes away people get anxious and like nervous and start acting different when they know there's a camera around, so I'd rather be a few steps behind, chuck my four-time zoom on and capture things as they're happening.
12:49
SPEAKER_01: And I've had a lot of yeah, a lot of couples being like, Oh my god, we didn't even know you were there.
12:52
SPEAKER_01: Like, obviously, when you're doing your portrait shots and stuff, I'm gonna be there with my with be there, but like, yeah, most of the time I'm in the background and I'll see things and I'll run over and I'll capture it, and people, yeah, people won't even notice that I'm there, which is yeah, particularly for brides.
13:04
SPEAKER_00: If you are getting married in the next couple of years, please go and hire Lisa or a content creator.
13:09
SPEAKER_00: I do travel, yeah.
13:11
SPEAKER_00: Because for the brides, look, I don't want to be stereotypical, but mostly the brides are the ones organizing everything, and they are the busiest on the day.
13:20
SPEAKER_00: So if you have poured your heart and soul into planning a wedding for a year, don't let that go to waste by just a few photos.
13:28
SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
13:28
SPEAKER_00: Make sure to get some content creator to capture it all because yeah, otherwise that that whatever it's not even 24 hours, it just goes so quick.
13:36
SPEAKER_01: It goes so far.
13:37
SPEAKER_01: Even for me, the day goes quick, and I'm like, wow, imagine if you just spent like two years planning this at least.
13:41
SPEAKER_01: Then you can wake up in the morning and relive it all and kind of like, yeah, like you said, sit in bed with your bridesmaids and go through the day.
13:46
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
13:47
SPEAKER_01: Very nice.
13:47
SPEAKER_01: So, how are we looking for booking?
13:49
SPEAKER_01: So, you're booked out this year, yeah.
13:50
SPEAKER_01: Pretty much.
13:51
SPEAKER_01: Um, yeah, like I said, this year's kind of just boomed, which is really exciting.
13:55
SPEAKER_01: 2027 bookings are open.
13:56
SPEAKER_01: Ooh, okay.
13:57
SPEAKER_01: So I've got a few inquiries.
13:59
SPEAKER_00: Get on now.
14:00
SPEAKER_01: I've had a few inquiries for 2028, but I'm not gonna go that far yet.
14:03
SPEAKER_01: I I'll still be doing it, but I just want to plan myself.
14:06
SPEAKER_01: But yeah, 2027 definitely open for bookings, and I've got a few, which is really exciting.
14:10
SPEAKER_01: Amazing.
14:10
SPEAKER_00: And if people want to book you, where can they find you?
14:13
SPEAKER_01: Um, Instagram at underscore event diaries, TikTok is the same, or my website, which is eventdiaries.com.au.
14:20
SPEAKER_00: Awesome.
14:20
SPEAKER_00: So then that also goes for events as well, obviously.
14:24
SPEAKER_00: I mean, that's in the name.
14:25
SPEAKER_00: Um so if you have an event coming up, you know, if you're a business or whatever, you offer those sort of services.
14:30
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, absolutely.
14:31
SPEAKER_01: Um, any kind of event.
14:32
SPEAKER_01: So some people will inquire, they've got like their bridal um tens party or bucks or whatever.
14:38
SPEAKER_01: I can do that.
14:38
SPEAKER_01: But then any kind of event.
14:39
SPEAKER_01: I've done Christmas parties, birthdays, um, engagements, anything.
14:44
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
14:44
SPEAKER_00: Now I'd love to jump over to your other page, yes, Keller Diaries for a minute.
14:50
SPEAKER_00: Because I do think a lot of people might have discovered you in maybe the last year or so with a lot of your videos going viral.
14:57
SPEAKER_00: I feel like it's so rare for someone to go, like a video to go viral.
15:01
SPEAKER_00: But for you, you've had multiple go viral.
15:04
SPEAKER_00: Can you tell us, A, were you expecting them to go viral?
15:07
SPEAKER_00: And B, what were they of?
15:09
SPEAKER_00: You know, what sort of things are people loving?
15:12
SPEAKER_01: Um, no, I wasn't expecting them to go viral.
15:14
SPEAKER_01: I feel like you never really know with a video on the internet how it's gonna perform.
15:17
SPEAKER_01: Like you can pour your heart and soul into a video and it gets like a thousand views, and you're like, great, what a waste of two weeks of my life.
15:23
SPEAKER_01: Or you can stick your bogan brother on and then go viral.
15:26
SPEAKER_01: Like, but they're the ones that do the best, right?
15:28
SPEAKER_01: The ones where you don't actually put any effort in.
15:30
SPEAKER_01: Um, but my most viral one was of an elephant sanctuary that I went to in Thailand, and it's really funny because it actually didn't perform that well at the start, and then like after like two weeks, it just went bang, and now it's at like 19 million views, which is 19 million.
15:44
SPEAKER_00: Isn't that nice?
15:45
SPEAKER_00: Oh my goodness.
15:46
SPEAKER_01: Insane.
15:47
SPEAKER_01: Um but yeah, definitely wasn't expecting that, and that's where I think it's so funny because a lot of my followers now have come from this video, and then I'm like, oh, I actually have nothing to do with Southeast Asia.
15:57
SPEAKER_01: I live in Port Douglas, but hey, here's this beautiful place that you might want to learn about.
16:00
SPEAKER_01: That's good.
16:01
SPEAKER_01: Um, so yeah, there was that one.
16:03
SPEAKER_01: What else have I had?
16:05
SPEAKER_01: There was a sunrise that like literally went down for sunrise one morning and it got like two million views.
16:12
SPEAKER_00: What about the crocodile and the Sheridan?
16:13
SPEAKER_01: Crocodile and the Sheridan, yeah.
16:15
SPEAKER_01: That one that one went nuts.
16:16
SPEAKER_01: I had people like reaching out to me wanting me to be on TV, like the morning show and stuff, and I was like, oh, this was just a random video.
16:22
SPEAKER_00: Like, I don't think I need to be on TV for this.
16:25
SPEAKER_00: Full context, there was a little crocodile in the Sheridan pool, which is a big resort in Port Duncan.
16:31
SPEAKER_00: It was tiny, tiny, it wasn't gonna hurt anyone.
16:34
SPEAKER_00: Um, I think it was after a bit of rain or something.
16:36
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think it wandered in.
16:37
SPEAKER_00: Anyway, not a regular occurrence, by the way.
16:40
SPEAKER_00: Oh, so don't think if you come across that video that that's normal.
16:44
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, with my page, obviously I'm trying to promote the area, and I'm very conscious of like how it's gonna come across, like certain posts are gonna come across and like who it's affecting and whatever.
16:52
SPEAKER_01: And I was a little bit in mind about posting this, and I was like, you know what?
16:56
SPEAKER_01: It does happen.
16:56
SPEAKER_01: There are crocodiles in front of Queensland.
16:58
SPEAKER_01: Once every 10 years, it might end up in a pool, and it's a bit of a laugh.
17:01
SPEAKER_01: Like exactly all over it.
17:03
SPEAKER_01: They removed the crocodile and everyone had a like and just had a laugh about it.
17:06
SPEAKER_00: A few years ago, there was a cyclone up here, and there was a big crocodile that ended up in someone's swimming pool, and that went crazy as well.
17:14
SPEAKER_00: And again, like you're like, oh, I don't want to like yeah, tell the tale of it always happening, but it's pretty funny.
17:20
SPEAKER_01: Like it's clean into it, you know, like people want to see crocodiles, like maybe not in your pool.
17:24
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but like it's we should be using this as a tourism thing, like we have crocodiles up here, and they're bloody cool animals, and we should be like, you know, yeah, enjoying them absolutely safe distance, yeah, exactly, exactly with boundary.
17:37
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, oh amazing! So then for those who don't follow you again, like what other content do you sort of post?
17:44
SPEAKER_00: Like, obviously, you're putting posting about Port Douglas, but are you suggesting um specific things or do you like inspiration?
17:52
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, random stuff.
17:54
SPEAKER_01: It started off really with just photos, and then it kind of was like, Oh, you should maybe go and try this restaurant because they had really good food, and then it's kind of now just become a bit of a you know recommendation thing.
18:03
SPEAKER_01: I've tried tried to kind of like not do that too much because obviously there's so many great places in town, I can't get to all of them, and I don't want to, you know, overly promote the one coffee shop that I go to every day.
18:15
SPEAKER_01: Oh, for sure.
18:15
SPEAKER_00: No, but so like you are just doing this off of your own back.
18:19
SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
18:20
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like none of it's sponsored or anything.
18:22
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, exactly.
18:23
SPEAKER_00: So you don't want to be going, oh no, I mean it's your it's you're up to you, but I understand what you mean.
18:28
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like you don't want to be plain favourites.
18:29
SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
18:30
SPEAKER_01: But yeah, so it's mainly just photography and promoting the region as a whole and like how beautiful it is, and the you know, the fun, mostly free things to do, like hiking and waterfalls and sunrises and that kind of thing.
18:40
SPEAKER_01: It's also I find that a lot of people that do come up here for holidays and don't live here and miss it and kind of just follow my page and they'll like write back to my stories and be like, oh my god, like such a beautiful sunrise this morning.
18:51
SPEAKER_01: So glad like I can feel like I've I'm still there, which is really nice.
18:54
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
18:55
SPEAKER_00: Do you think do you feel like it inspires you to go out and do more?
18:58
SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
18:58
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
18:59
SPEAKER_01: 100%.
19:00
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, oh, I haven't been to the Tablelands in a while.
19:01
SPEAKER_01: Maybe I should go and post some stuff about that and like go on a little day trip or whatever.
19:05
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
19:06
SPEAKER_00: Do you ever get asked by brands to like come up and promote or anything?
19:09
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
19:10
SPEAKER_01: Um, some of the tourism places have come are like asked me to come out, or like the boats will ask me if I want to come out, and it's always like no pressure.
19:16
SPEAKER_01: They're like, you know, come and just post whatever you like your experience, and it's always really positive.
19:21
SPEAKER_00: So yeah, which is nice.
19:23
SPEAKER_00: That's oh my god, that's wonderful.
19:24
SPEAKER_00: And I know that you and Sam lead such an adventurous life anyway.
19:29
SPEAKER_00: Obviously, you've just been to Asia for three months, but are you always out in the boat?
19:34
SPEAKER_00: And I see you fishing and I see you hiking.
19:36
SPEAKER_00: So you guys are so good at like naturally going and doing stuff anyway.
19:40
SPEAKER_00: I feel like it's just it's a natural progression of all of your passions.
19:45
SPEAKER_00: How it started because I was always out doing stuff anyway, and I was like, Oh, I may as well just like make a little post about it.
19:49
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
19:50
SPEAKER_00: So, how did you go being in Asia for three months?
19:53
SPEAKER_00: I feel like you've probably got a lot of footage from that.
19:55
SPEAKER_00: I have so much footage from that.
19:56
SPEAKER_01: I went over this whole intention of like, yeah, I'm gonna take so many photos and videos and I'm gonna make all this content, and then I got there and I was like, I kind of just want to live in the moment.
20:03
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, um, and I'll post it when I get back, and then you get back and you just get straight back into life and work and posting about here, and I've kind of forgotten.
20:10
SPEAKER_01: And I actually was going through some of my content last night, and I was like, oh my god, I have so much stuff that I want to post.
20:15
SPEAKER_00: I feel like this isn't talked about enough, like the the posting fatigue.
20:19
SPEAKER_00: Oh my god, the posting fatigue, and then everyone expects you to be consistent posting every day.
20:24
SPEAKER_01: People being like, Oh, you're not posting enough.
20:26
SPEAKER_00: Oh my god, I'm trying to enjoy my holiday.
20:28
SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
20:28
SPEAKER_01: You know what?
20:29
SPEAKER_01: It's part of the part of the world that people, you know, become yeah, not reliant on you, but like they want to see more from you, which is amazing.
20:36
SPEAKER_01: It's so yeah, I feel very um grateful of that.
20:39
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but at the same time, I also want to enjoy my holiday.
20:41
SPEAKER_01: But there will be hopefully some more Asia content coming.
20:44
SPEAKER_01: But yeah, posting fatigue is definitely a real thing.
20:46
SPEAKER_01: Um, I also get posting anxiety, yeah, yeah.
20:49
SPEAKER_01: Like whereas like I'll have a post ready to go, yeah, but I'm so anxious of like how it's gonna perform.
20:54
SPEAKER_01: Will people comment on it?
20:55
SPEAKER_01: Is it gonna completely flop?
20:57
SPEAKER_01: Have I wasted my time that I just won't post it and it'll just sit in my drafts.
21:01
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
21:01
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
21:02
SPEAKER_01: Who else in the room?
21:03
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like and it's I yeah, I feel like it's not spoken about enough.
21:06
SPEAKER_01: It's just there's just such a pressure now.
21:08
SPEAKER_01: Like, you know, back in the day we'd post on Instagram just because we wanted to post something, and now it's like, oh my god, like if I'm trying to make a business out of this, like I need to get XYZ results from it, so I'm just not gonna post it because that way it can't fail.
21:19
SPEAKER_00: Exactly, exactly.
21:20
SPEAKER_00: And like, oh, with the algorithm, it just changes constantly, and you can't keep up anyway.
21:24
SPEAKER_00: So you're like, what is I putting all this effort into making a video for it just to completely disappear and none of know exactly people actually even see it?
21:32
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, or is it just gonna go viral?
21:34
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like you just don't know and have no idea.
21:39
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and then some mornings I wake up and I'm just like, you know what, stuff it, I'm just gonna post the video and it's not that deep and get over it.
21:45
SPEAKER_01: But then I'm like, oh my god, it's not performing over what's going on.
21:48
SPEAKER_01: It's such a roll, it's a roll of personal emotions, and yeah, like it's not that deep, but it feels like it is.
21:54
SPEAKER_01: And because I've you know, as a creator, you put your heart and soul into these things.
21:57
SPEAKER_01: Like this is you, and if people don't like it, you take it personally.
22:00
SPEAKER_00: Oh totally, absolutely.
22:00
SPEAKER_00: So you're just like, oh my god, everyone hates me.
22:02
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
22:03
SPEAKER_00: But then you like on the other hand of that as well.
22:05
SPEAKER_00: Like, I remember at the start of the year, was it this year?
22:09
SPEAKER_00: When did you do the thing at Amy's?
22:11
SPEAKER_00: Is that this year or last year?
22:13
SPEAKER_00: The thing at Amy's.
22:14
SPEAKER_00: That must have been last year.
22:14
SPEAKER_00: Oh no, that was last year.
22:16
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
22:17
SPEAKER_00: I remember last year you ran like a content workshop with a bunch of girls.
22:21
SPEAKER_00: And one of the things that I will not forget, and it I think about it every single time I post now, is that like again, it's not that like you know, like you might be like thinking about it constantly, but honestly, a half of your friends haven't seen it because it hasn't popped up, or they have seen it and they've looked at it for 0.5 seconds, and you know, at the end of the day, if you're trying to run a business from an Instagram account or from where whatever you're doing, you just have to post.
22:50
SPEAKER_00: Like, people just want to see it, and it's again, it's it's they're not thinking about it as much as you're doing it.
22:55
SPEAKER_01: No, you're or the only one thinking about it is Steve.
22:57
SPEAKER_01: And I was actually talking to Sam about this the other day.
22:59
SPEAKER_01: Every time I post on my event diaries account, I get an inquiry.
23:02
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
23:03
SPEAKER_01: And it just goes to show that people don't know about you unless you post, and only certain people, like not every all of your followers are gonna see every post.
23:09
SPEAKER_01: So I'm like, oh my god, I don't want to post every day because I don't annoy people, but you're not, they're not seeing it all.
23:13
SPEAKER_00: But they're not.
23:14
SPEAKER_01: But then I get this posting anxiety where I'm like, oh, I'm not gonna post.
23:16
SPEAKER_01: So I don't post, so I don't get inquiries.
23:18
SPEAKER_01: But then when I do post, I get them, and I'm like, why aren't you posting?
23:20
SPEAKER_01: Oh my god, it's such a cycle.
23:22
SPEAKER_01: It's such a cycle, yeah.
23:23
SPEAKER_01: So yeah, you I just you just need to get out of your own head, post a damn video.
23:26
SPEAKER_01: If it fails, whatever.
23:27
SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
23:27
SPEAKER_01: This is advice to myself, by the way.
23:29
SPEAKER_00: I like it.
23:30
SPEAKER_00: Reminds me well for this.
23:31
SPEAKER_00: This goes for everyone, everyone needs to understand that this is the mental cycle we all go through, but we're all gonna know each other and just post it because we'd rather see what you're up to than you be worried about whatever you're thinking about.
23:44
SPEAKER_01: And the thing is, like if a video fails or you know it doesn't do as well, you can change it and post it again.
23:50
SPEAKER_01: Well, exactly.
23:50
SPEAKER_01: You know, exactly.
23:51
unknown: Yeah, yeah.
23:52
SPEAKER_00: Make your own.
23:53
SPEAKER_00: That's really good advice as well.
23:54
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's so good.
23:55
SPEAKER_01: It's gonna be a learning curve, I'd tell you.
23:57
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
23:58
SPEAKER_00: Do you think that would be one of the biggest things that you've probably learned?
24:01
SPEAKER_01: Or yeah, yeah.
24:03
SPEAKER_01: It's just to back yourself and yeah, just that it's not that serious.
24:07
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and you know, you're you're the only one paying as much attention to what you're doing as any that goes for anything in life, not just social media.
24:14
SPEAKER_01: Like you're the only one paying as much attention.
24:16
SPEAKER_01: No, everyone else is too focused on what they're doing to worry about you.
24:18
SPEAKER_01: So you just do you, yeah, and people will, you know, do their own thing, and it'll all come together, and it'll everything will be fine.
24:26
SPEAKER_00: That's so good.
24:27
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, my mum said the other day that you know, Instagram is like opening a store seven days a week, whether you've got your doors open seven days a week in a brick and mortar store or seven days a week on your stories or Instagram or whatever, like that is your you know, virtual version of running a business, I suppose, you know, and if someone walk walks past, it's a scroll.
24:48
SPEAKER_00: If they walk in, it's a view, and if they give you a nice comment, it's a good comment.
24:53
SPEAKER_00: If they, you know, buy something, then it's a like, like you have to think of, you know, if that's how you would run a physical store, so you may as well run your Instagram business of whatever the same sort of way.
25:05
SPEAKER_01: Such a nice way to look at it because I feel like when you've got like a physical store, there's this intention you have to show up, you know.
25:09
SPEAKER_01: You've got a store, doors have to open.
25:11
SPEAKER_01: But online, it's like, oh, I could just not post today, yeah.
25:13
SPEAKER_01: You know, who's gonna care?
25:14
SPEAKER_01: But then, yeah, no one can come in if your door's not open, right?
25:18
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, beautiful way, yeah.
25:19
SPEAKER_00: Very smart woman, cool, cool way of thinking of it, absolutely.
25:24
SPEAKER_00: So, having done so many different things in your life, did you always expect to be falling into content creation and all that?
25:32
SPEAKER_01: No, not at all.
25:33
SPEAKER_01: And I think that's why I have done so many different things.
25:35
SPEAKER_01: I've had so many jobs, like from the time I turned 18 to now.
25:38
SPEAKER_00: Like, can you tell us?
25:40
SPEAKER_01: Uh so many things.
25:41
SPEAKER_01: Like, I've worked in factories, I've worked retail, I've done hospital, I've done dog walking, I've obviously done content, I've done promo modeling, like you name it, I've worked in that industry, and I think for a really long time I was really lost.
25:57
SPEAKER_01: And I think like when I left school, obviously you leave school, and they're like, All right, the next thing you do is you go to uni and then you get a job, and then you know, there's this like whole cookie-cutter thing that you're meant to fall into, and it just didn't sit right with me.
26:08
SPEAKER_01: And I felt really like restricted and a bit claustrophobic about what life was, yeah, and I just couldn't pick one thing that I loved enough that I'd want to do for the rest of my life, and I was like, I got really stressed about it, and so I was trying all these different things, and nothing was really sitting, and I was like you know, I don't want to work in a shop, I don't want to sit on a computer for the rest of my life, and I don't want to do this, and yeah, it got to a point where I was just really, really lost.
26:31
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, um, and I remember being on the phone to my one of my friends one day, and I was crying on the phone team.
26:35
SPEAKER_01: I vividly remember it, and I was like, What is my purpose?
26:38
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, what am I doing in this life?
26:40
SPEAKER_01: Like, I was like 24, 25, all of my friends had finished uni and were, you know, had these great careers that they were building, and I was a promo girl, like living week to week.
26:49
SPEAKER_01: And I was like, What am I doing?
26:50
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and then I kind of came to this realization that life didn't need to be like that, and you don't need to live the way that everybody else is living.
26:58
SPEAKER_01: And picking a job didn't mean that that's what I was going to do for the rest of my life.
27:03
SPEAKER_01: And even now, like I love what I'm doing.
27:05
SPEAKER_01: I absolutely love doing weddings, but that doesn't mean that I'm gonna be doing shooting weddings for the rest of my life.
27:09
SPEAKER_01: And I finally come to terms with the fact that that's okay, yeah, and that I'm allowed to that I'm allowed to swap.
27:15
SPEAKER_00: I love that.
27:15
SPEAKER_00: I've got goose because I I agree, like a lot of people there, particularly when you leave school, there's such a pressure.
27:22
SPEAKER_00: What are you gonna do?
27:23
SPEAKER_00: What are you gonna do?
27:24
SPEAKER_00: Decide to swap.
27:24
SPEAKER_01: And I was like, Oh, well, I guess I'll go to uni, and like they're like, what do you like doing?
27:27
SPEAKER_01: And I was like, Well, the only thing I really like is English, so I guess I'll do journalism.
27:30
SPEAKER_01: Like, yeah, it was never something that I like ever like my dream when I was little was it changed every week.
27:35
SPEAKER_01: Like, I wanted to be a fashion designer, and then I wanted to be on TV, and then I wanted to be like a policewoman, and like it changed all the time, and so I didn't know.
27:41
SPEAKER_01: And I was like, Well, you need to pick something, and I was like, Well, okay, I'll be journalism.
27:44
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, okay, yeah, and then so it's kind of just flowed from there, and I hated uni, I hated it.
27:49
SPEAKER_01: Like, I lasted not very like I didn't complete my degree, I did a diploma, and then didn't complete my degree because I hated it.
27:54
SPEAKER_01: Yep, and then that's okay, and that's okay, but you it's just like ingrained in the system that like it's not okay, and that you need to pick these things and you need to stick through it, and you need to get a job, and you need to, you know, blah blah blah.
28:06
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and it took me a really long time to work out that that's not yeah, that it that it is okay for that not to be your path.
28:11
SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
28:12
SPEAKER_01: Um, but yeah, so no, I had absolutely no idea.
28:14
SPEAKER_01: Content creating wasn't even a thing.
28:16
SPEAKER_01: No, so like when I was studying journalism, like Instagram was a place that you posted for fun and everyone had filters, and like you know, it wasn't a business exactly.
28:24
SPEAKER_01: If I put borders around, yeah, it wasn't a business, and then like as it developed, um, and like journalism had to keep up with it, so like every article that I would write had to come with the video, and that's how my like introduction into content creation came, and then I ended up falling in love with the video side, but that's another thing.
28:41
SPEAKER_01: Like, like there are jobs in 10 years that will exist that don't exist now that we might fall into and like then, so it's like you just don't know, yeah.
28:48
SPEAKER_00: But yeah, it was a very big learning curve for me of like you don't have to do everything forever, like it's go with the flow, which is cool because obviously, like you have such a creative brain, and to allow yourself to go, hey, there's no restrictions here, just find out.
29:04
SPEAKER_01: And that's the thing when you tell a creative that, like, no, you have to do this one thing forever.
29:08
SPEAKER_01: Everyone, they freak you out.
29:09
SPEAKER_01: You know, you're doing a lot of different things.
29:11
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I know, I know.
29:12
SPEAKER_00: Everyone's like, chill, and like I could do this, I can do this.
29:15
SPEAKER_00: I'm bored now.
29:17
SPEAKER_00: I could do something else.
29:19
SPEAKER_00: Um, but yeah, exactly.
29:20
SPEAKER_00: Like, people do ask me that as well.
29:22
SPEAKER_00: Like, oh, um, you started making from such a young age, you know, whatever.
29:26
SPEAKER_00: Like, how do you go?
29:27
SPEAKER_00: Some people just think I just am in a retail store and like boring, boring.
29:31
SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, you should see my day.
29:33
SPEAKER_00: Like, I get to do a podcast, I'm editing, I'm doing social media.
29:38
SPEAKER_00: Like, I think it's really nice when you pick a job or an industry or whatever where you get the freedom to do a lot of different things, and every day doesn't have to be yeah, so cooked.
29:49
SPEAKER_01: And that was the thing for me.
29:50
SPEAKER_01: Like, so that suits some people.
29:51
SPEAKER_01: People want some people want the stability, they want to know what they're gonna be doing every day for the next 10 years so they can plan their life around it.
29:56
SPEAKER_01: That is not me.
29:57
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and yeah, that's what really really scared me.
30:00
SPEAKER_01: So it's actually really nice that I've now realized that yeah, we can do whatever we want, and I can, you know, my every day is different, and I love that.
30:07
SPEAKER_01: I have no idea what I'm doing next week.
30:08
SPEAKER_01: It's great.
30:09
SPEAKER_00: So good.
30:09
SPEAKER_00: I love that.
30:10
SPEAKER_00: I know I check Instagram, I'm like, where's Lisa?
30:13
SPEAKER_00: It's like, oh, Mission Beach.
30:15
SPEAKER_00: Oh, that's cool.
30:16
SPEAKER_00: The other oh, I want to ask where you went the other day, that island.
30:21
SPEAKER_00: You took, you put I Oh, Franklin Island.
30:23
SPEAKER_00: No one's ever heard of this.
30:24
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yes, I have never heard of this.
30:26
SPEAKER_00: Really not?
30:27
SPEAKER_00: Please tell me more about it.
30:28
SPEAKER_00: You live here.
30:29
SPEAKER_00: I'm genuinely gen.
30:30
SPEAKER_00: This is a pu prime example of someone living somewhere their whole life and still not knowing.
30:35
SPEAKER_01: It's just south of Cairns.
30:36
SPEAKER_01: So you they pick you up from your accommodation in Cairns, yeah, or you can meet them at the thing, but it's like at a 45-minute drive south.
30:42
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and then there's like a little tiny little what are they called?
30:45
SPEAKER_01: Ramp.
30:46
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
30:46
SPEAKER_01: And they pick you up on the boat and you drive through the rainforest and take you out to Franklin Island.
30:49
SPEAKER_01: It's like a group of little islands, but they take you to the one.
30:52
SPEAKER_02: Stunning.
30:52
SPEAKER_01: It's gorgeous.
30:53
SPEAKER_01: It's like Fitzroy, but smaller.
30:55
SPEAKER_01: Obviously, there's no resort or anything on there, but like same water, same turtles, sharks, everything.
30:59
SPEAKER_01: There's little walks you can do.
31:01
SPEAKER_01: It's gorgeous, and they cap the numbers, so there's only a certain amount of people allowed on the island each day, so it's not super busy.
31:06
SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
31:07
SPEAKER_01: It's gorgeous.
31:07
SPEAKER_01: Oh, so yeah, recommend.
31:09
SPEAKER_01: There you go.
31:09
SPEAKER_00: So check out Lisa's page for this exact reason because there's still so many things that you post about, which is probably why I think a lot of people do think that you've lived here for so long.
31:20
SPEAKER_00: Because you've got so many unique recommendations that I'm like, what do you mean there's an island that's like 45 minutes away that I haven't heard of and have been here my whole life?
31:30
SPEAKER_00: Like, yeah, I'm glad you're finding it useful.
31:33
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so I constantly, when I have people in the shop, I'm like, hey, have you checked out Lisa's page?
31:38
SPEAKER_00: Here you go.
31:39
SPEAKER_00: There, there's all your recommendations, just store the train.
31:42
SPEAKER_00: Because sometimes I get busy in the shop and I'm like, I can't have a whole one.
31:45
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
31:46
SPEAKER_00: Talk to this girl, and we're just like, I need some cards on the table so that I can just be like, hey, check out Lisa.
31:52
SPEAKER_00: Thank you so much for coming on today, Lise.
31:54
SPEAKER_00: I know it's been a few months in the making.
31:56
SPEAKER_00: I've been trying to pin you down, but you know, there's been a few overseas trips and stuff from between.
32:02
SPEAKER_00: Um, but I'd love to wrap up.
32:04
SPEAKER_00: I always end with a piece of advice from you, whether that be something that someone has told you, something you live by, whatever it may be.
32:13
SPEAKER_00: Do you have something for Alice?
32:14
SPEAKER_01: Um, I think the main thing I always try and live by is just trust your gut.
32:18
SPEAKER_01: And I know it's very generic and it's also a lot easier said than done, but your gut will always know what's right.
32:26
SPEAKER_01: Um, and then another one that I've learned recently, which really ties back into what we were talking about, is it's only it's only embarrassing if you're embarrassed.
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SPEAKER_01: Yes! And so, like when I first started this page, obviously, like, you know, there's a bit of a cringe factor to it, and you're like, oh my god, what are my friends and family gonna think?
32:41
SPEAKER_01: And they're like, Who does she, who does she think she is, kind of thing.
32:43
SPEAKER_01: But like, if you're not embarrassed by it, it can't be embarrassing.
32:46
SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
32:46
SPEAKER_01: And I really someone told me that the other day, and I was like, mind blown.
32:49
SPEAKER_01: I was like, that's amazing.
32:50
SPEAKER_00: Yep, someone told me that a few years ago too.
32:52
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and I love it.
32:53
SPEAKER_00: And confidence is key.
32:54
SPEAKER_00: 100%.
32:55
SPEAKER_00: No one knows if confidence is really exactly if you do something and you're broken it, they're gonna be like, oh, okay.
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SPEAKER_01: But if you're like sheepish and embarrassed about it, then they give you the their like put them to judge you, you know?
33:05
SPEAKER_01: That was you know what I'm saying.
33:08
SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
33:08
SPEAKER_00: And I'm gonna throw you one more because I've just been throwing this one in lately, and I think it's really nice.
33:14
SPEAKER_00: What has brought you the most joy this week?
33:17
SPEAKER_01: What has brought me the most joy this week?
33:18
SPEAKER_01: So my partner's parents have been up the last week or so, and it's been really nice to have them and have some family around and show them around.
33:24
SPEAKER_01: And when you've got people here, you get to go and do all the fun things.
33:26
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
33:27
SPEAKER_01: You feel like when you live in a place like this, you really take it for granted, and you obviously can't go out and do everything all of the time.
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SPEAKER_01: So it's been nice to kind of play tour guide and have them around.
33:34
SPEAKER_01: That's so nice.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh, I love that.
33:37
SPEAKER_00: Well, thank you so much again.
33:39
SPEAKER_00: For those who want to follow you or get in touch about weddings or anything, where can they find you?
33:44
SPEAKER_01: Um, so my Port Douglas page is Caladaries at Caladaries, and the events page is at underscore event diaries.
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SPEAKER_00: Awesome, perfect, and I will leave that in the show notes as well.
33:54
SPEAKER_00: Hey train.
33:55
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, thank you, Lisa, and thank you guys.
33:58
SPEAKER_00: Have a wonderful day, and we will be in your ears very soon.
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SPEAKER_00: Bye!