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The Rita Panahi Show | 21 October · The Rita Panahi Show

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Speaker 1: On Scornelds, Australia.
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Speaker 2: This is the winder Paney Show.
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Speaker 1: Good evening and welcome to the Rita Patahe Show.
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Speaker 3: I'm Danikiti Giorgio coming up tonight. Australia's Ambassador to the US,
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Speaker 3: Kevin Rather, humiliated and forced to apologize to Donald Trump
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Speaker 3: during a tense dressing down at the White House.
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Speaker 1: Kosher Gada will.
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Speaker 3: Join me to discuss Anthony Arbernisi's first meeting with the
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Speaker 3: US President.
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Speaker 1: Was it a success?
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Speaker 3: UK prison officers order to offer transgender prisoners makeup and
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Speaker 3: prosthetics in men's prisons. Stephanie Bastian has more on this
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Speaker 3: latest gender madness.
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Speaker 1: The tolerant left strikes again.
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Speaker 3: Comedian Alex Stein is assaulted at a No King's protest
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Speaker 3: to the US. He'll tell us what happened shortly and
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Speaker 3: of course.
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Speaker 1: Left he's losing it and the wild Karens are back.
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Speaker 4: What does it?
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Speaker 3: But first to the humiliation of Australia's Ambassador to the US,
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Speaker 3: Kevin Rudd, who was finally made to face President Donald
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Speaker 3: Trump during the Prime Minister's visit to the US. During
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Speaker 3: a tense White House clash. The President demanded Rod apologized
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Speaker 3: for disparaging remarks he made about him after his first term,
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Speaker 3: labeling him the most destructive president in history and as
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Speaker 3: a traitor.
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Speaker 1: To the West in a series of social media posts.
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Speaker 3: Now have a look at right squirm while Anthony Albanezi
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Speaker 3: laughs at him?
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Speaker 5: Has been concerned in Australias taken nine months to get
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Speaker 5: this meeting?
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Speaker 6: Have you had any concerns with this administration, with the
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Speaker 6: stance on Palestine, climate change or even things the ambassador
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Speaker 6: said about you in the past, the Australian ambassador, I
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Speaker 6: don't know anything about him. If he said bad then
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Speaker 6: maybe he'll like to apologize. I really don't know. Did
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Speaker 6: an ambassador to say something about it?
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Speaker 4: Don't tell me. Whereas yes, you said bad dispositions to president.
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Speaker 6: I don't like you either and probably never will.
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Speaker 1: Oh it was delicious, wasn't it.
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Speaker 3: Johnny winn Appamore on this his former Victorian Liberal Party
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Speaker 3: president Michael Kroger, and Menzi's research center seeior fellow Nick Cator.
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Speaker 3: Hi to both of you, Thanks so much for your
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Speaker 3: time this evening. Michael over to you first, what do
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Speaker 3: you make of this scolding?
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Speaker 7: Well, it just shows you Niga. Even though the meeting
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Speaker 7: went well in terms of, you know, the trade deals
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Speaker 7: Australia got out of it, which is great for our country.
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Speaker 7: It's another reason why Rudd should not be the ambassador.
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Speaker 7: Susan Lee, the Liberal Party of the leaders, called on
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Speaker 7: him to go. She's absolutely right. I mean, who wants
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Speaker 7: that country embarrassed by the rogue comments of our ambassador.
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Speaker 7: Before he became the ambassador, he made some stupid comments.
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Speaker 7: He also referred to Trump as a village idiot. I mean,
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Speaker 7: you know seriously then that he was made ambassador, So
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Speaker 7: it was embarrassing for Australia, embarrassing for our country and
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Speaker 7: national interest, embarrassing around the world. These pictures have gone
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Speaker 7: all around the world. So a good day for Australia
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Speaker 7: in one sense, but a very bad day in another sense.
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Speaker 7: Another reason why Kevin Rudd shouldn't be reappointed when he
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Speaker 7: comes up very important reappointment.
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Speaker 1: Well, you're right.
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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, he's been the elephant in the
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Speaker 3: room this whole time. Nick is still the elephant in
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Speaker 3: the room. But the elephant in the room had to
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Speaker 3: be addressed today. Do you think his role as ambassador
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Speaker 3: can seriously continue?
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Speaker 2: Well, I think was obviously right when he said that
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Speaker 2: Donald Trump was a destructive prime a destructive president. I mean,
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Speaker 2: he certainly should have destroyed Kevin Rudd's career after that one.
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Speaker 2: Oh look, when your ambassador is the topic of conversation
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Speaker 2: at a high level meeting, it is not a good
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Speaker 2: day for Australia. When your ambassador is a joke, when
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Speaker 2: everybody in the room is laughing at him, when he's
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Speaker 2: the laughing stock in the entire room, then it's a
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Speaker 2: terrible day. If Kevin Rudd had any ability to be embarrassed,
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Speaker 2: he would be resigning right now. I suspect he doesn't.
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Speaker 2: He seems to be somebody who had his embarrassment gene
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Speaker 2: removed at b But he you know, his position was
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Speaker 2: always untenable. It is completely untenable now. And if Prime
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Speaker 2: Minister had any sense of what the right thing to
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Speaker 2: do would be, he'd replaced him quietly in about six
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Speaker 2: weeks time.
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Speaker 1: Well you think so, yeah, you're right.
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Speaker 3: Rud's now just a walking punchline and the division, as
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Speaker 3: we all said, has gone viral. But let's talk more
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Speaker 3: broadly about this meeting. It was a long time coming.
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Speaker 3: Finally Anthony Alberneasy sat down with the President the President
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Speaker 3: actually praised the Orcas pack to have a listen.
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Speaker 6: It was made a while ago and nobody did anything
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Speaker 6: about it, and it's going too slowly. We do actually
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Speaker 6: have a lot of submarines. We have the best submarines
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Speaker 6: in the world anywhere in the world, and we're building
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Speaker 6: a few more currently under construction, and now we're starting.
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Speaker 6: We have it all set with Anthony. We've worked on
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Speaker 6: this long and high, and we're starting in that process
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Speaker 6: right now, and I think it's really moving along very rapidly,
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Speaker 6: very well.
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Speaker 3: Michael, So, by all accounts, the Orchest agreement is safe.
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Speaker 3: What do you make of this meeting? Do you think
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Speaker 3: that Anthony Arberenezi would be breathing a sigh of relief?
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Speaker 7: There is absolutely no doubt at all, DANEAKA. He is
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Speaker 7: breathing a sigh of relief. He's probably had half a
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Speaker 7: dozen bers back to his hotel room thinking thank God
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Speaker 7: for that. It could have gone in any direction, but
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Speaker 7: clearly Trump was in the mood and in discussions with
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Speaker 7: his advisors they've worked out, hey, listen, how do we
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Speaker 7: handle this guy this meeting? Well, Australia are one of
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Speaker 7: our closest, more reliable, more long standing allies going back
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Speaker 7: over one hundred years. I mean MacArthur had his base
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Speaker 7: here in Australia during the war. I mean, George were
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Speaker 7: soon you had a close relationship with Australia and Australian
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Speaker 7: Prime Minister Bob Hawk, his son had a close relationship
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Speaker 7: with he was president with John Howard, et cetera et ce.
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Speaker 4: Men, we are as close as close.
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Speaker 7: Despite the rat bag left in Australia that don't want
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Speaker 7: us to be aloes with America. This was an acknowledgment
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Speaker 7: of Australia being a true ally of the United States
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Speaker 7: for more than one hundred years. And you know that's
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Speaker 7: what happened today. And it's good for Australia that he
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Speaker 7: treated our country with the respect it deserves and quite
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Speaker 7: franctly Albaneze he said the same things about America. So
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Speaker 7: you know, a good day for Australia apart from the
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Speaker 7: elephant in the room.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, apart from the elephant in the room, Nick. Realistically,
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Speaker 3: Australia got some assurances from the US.
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Speaker 2: The reassurance over UCAS is a big relief that you
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Speaker 2: now have a president who endorses it, because I don't
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Speaker 2: think when Joe Biden signed it. He knew what he
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Speaker 2: was signing, quite honestly. If you remember that press conference,
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Speaker 2: he couldn't even remember Prime Minister Morrison's name. He called
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Speaker 2: him that fellow down under something. So clearly, now we
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Speaker 2: have a president who's engaged in foreign policy. It was Trump,
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Speaker 2: of course who changed the American foreign policy towards China
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Speaker 2: in his first term, realizing that they are an enormous
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Speaker 2: threat and we shouldn't we shouldn't be naive in our
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Speaker 2: dealings with China. So that the fact that he has
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Speaker 2: now grasped this, he is right behind the idea of
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Speaker 2: sending a submarines. That's terrific. The same thing goes for
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Speaker 2: the rare Earth deal too. Again, that's a very important
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Speaker 2: strategic move to push China out of the picture, to
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Speaker 2: stop them controlling absolutely everything in the world. And I
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Speaker 2: think what we should do is abandon this things made
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Speaker 2: in Australia policy that Albanesi has and recognize that it's
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Speaker 2: important that things are made in the West with our
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Speaker 2: Western allies, and if we can contribute to that, be
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Speaker 2: part of that logistics change, we'll be doing a lot
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Speaker 2: for our own security.
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Speaker 3: Look absolutely, and look, let's talk more broadly about China,
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Speaker 3: because a Chinese fighter plane has released flares very close
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Speaker 3: to a Royal Australian Air Force plane carrying out surveillance
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Speaker 3: in international airspace over the South China Sea. Defense Minister
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Speaker 3: Richard Miles had this characteristically weak response.
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Speaker 8: On two occasions it released flares very close to the
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Speaker 8: P eight and it's really that the proximity at which
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Speaker 8: the flares were released which has given us cause to
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Speaker 8: dean this unsafe and unprofessional. We have made representations to
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Speaker 8: the Chinese embassy here in Canberra, and inteed our embassy
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Speaker 8: has also made representations in Beijing.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Michael, another nothing to see, all above board response
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Speaker 3: from labor and yet you know, Anthony Arbernesi has just
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Speaker 3: been and gone to China. All that panda diplomacy has
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Speaker 3: fallen on deaf ears.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, look, it be interesting to hear what the Chinese
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Speaker 7: government's responses to the learning of these flares in our inquiries.
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Speaker 7: Australian government attitude to China is very obsequious. We are
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Speaker 7: a small nation with big trade. We are inferior military,
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Speaker 7: militarily and every other way. And you know, and that's
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Speaker 7: the way albneasy treats the relationship with China. We are subservient.
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Speaker 7: We can't challenge them, we can't take them on. We're
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Speaker 7: fearful of, you know, a trade embarger, which is what
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Speaker 7: happened a few years ago when the then government tried
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Speaker 7: to stand up to China. So he's just decided weakness
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Speaker 7: is the best cause of action. A new see it
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Speaker 7: and everything the government does with China, which is very dangerous.
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Speaker 7: Of course, it embolves China and the South Pacific, and
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Speaker 7: that's why our treaty with the New Guinea is an
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Speaker 7: important one. But you know, quite frankly, you have to
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Speaker 7: stand up to China from time to time. You just
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Speaker 7: can't bury your head, which is what this training government
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Speaker 7: does and let China walk all over us because I
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Speaker 7: think on too many occasions that seems to happen, and
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Speaker 7: we never get a we never get a sufficient results
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Speaker 7: from China as to why they're doing what they're doing
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Speaker 7: off the Australian.
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Speaker 1: Coast, No exactly, And I mean, what are they waiting for?
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Speaker 9: This?
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Speaker 1: You know, soft diplomacy?
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Speaker 3: And then a flare hits one of our military jets
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Speaker 3: and blows the thing up.
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Speaker 1: I mean, what are they waiting for?
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Speaker 3: Nick, And also I wonder about the timing of this,
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Speaker 3: because China would have known obviously that Anthony Abernezi was
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Speaker 3: going to the US for this meeting.
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Speaker 2: Do you think there's anything in that If the Chinese
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Speaker 2: did do it to time with that meeting, then they've
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Speaker 2: done us a favor because it was a clear reminder
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Speaker 2: for Antony Alberanezi, who seems to have trouble realzing this
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Speaker 2: whose side we are on in this dispute. So he's
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Speaker 2: there signing a strategic deal, he's there signing a trade
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Speaker 2: deal both to deal with the China threat. He's got
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Speaker 2: this reminder of the China threat the day before. Surely
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Speaker 2: he's got to stop this pretense that Australia is somehow
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Speaker 2: in the middle, that we're friends with everybody, that China
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Speaker 2: is a benign power that has our best interests at heart.
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Speaker 2: It's ludicrous. And you know, while we're at it, was
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Speaker 2: reminded justin to Allan of that after she's just been
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Speaker 2: to China to try and get money out of them
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Speaker 2: for this, that and the other, she shouldn't be anywhere
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Speaker 2: near China right now. She should be barred from going
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Speaker 2: to China.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
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Speaker 3: Well, clearly, you know, but they're all they're all closing
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Speaker 3: up to China at the moment.
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Speaker 1: Now.
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Speaker 3: Look at former Nationals leader Michael McCormack has attempted to
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Speaker 3: hose down suggestions that MPs could quit the party or
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Speaker 3: defect to one nation. Of course, amid the reports that
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Speaker 3: Barnaby Joyce is in high level talks with Pauline Hansen
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Speaker 3: following his.
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Speaker 1: Decision to quit the Nationals.
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Speaker 3: Michael, look that thent's that they're downplaying this, even David
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Speaker 3: Little Proud saying, you know, everything's all above board, but
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Speaker 3: I mean, realistically, how do you see.
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Speaker 1: This playing out.
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Speaker 3: There's so many issues at play and it all stems
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Speaker 3: around energy policy.
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Speaker 7: Well it partly does, partly personality issues and the way
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Speaker 7: Joyce was treated before the election, et cetera, et cetera.
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Speaker 7: So there's a lot of personal issues that Barnaby Joyce
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Speaker 7: has with the National Party. I would think in the
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Speaker 7: next month or so, the energy policy will be the
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Speaker 7: issue will be resolved. And what I'd really like to
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Speaker 7: see is Barnaby make a decision on his future sooner
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Speaker 7: rather than later. And if he's staying with the National Party,
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Speaker 7: he should say so. If he's leaving the National Party equally,
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Speaker 7: he should say so. And you can't let this caravan
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Speaker 7: keep circling day after day, week after week, month after
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Speaker 7: month month. It's destructive for the National Party. It's not
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Speaker 7: really helping Barnaby because people think he's a wrecker and
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Speaker 7: I obviously doesn't help the coalition. So the sooner he
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Speaker 7: makes the decision, I think the better, so we can
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Speaker 7: get on with policy development. And you can see that's
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Speaker 7: what Susan Lee's doing on a daily basis, you know,
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Speaker 7: as you get a great speech to the CIS yesterday
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Speaker 7: about the importance of lowering personal income taxes. So she's
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Speaker 7: starting to build a narrative for the next election and
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Speaker 7: these distractions are not helping. And as James Patterson said,
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Speaker 7: it's time to bring this sort of national apology to her,
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Speaker 7: to know frakka to an end so people can concentrate
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Speaker 7: on the next election.
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Speaker 3: I think that they're good, well, look absolutely, and I
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Speaker 3: mean the problem is that the Coalition are still talking
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Speaker 3: about themselves as opposed to actually putting some policy ideas
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Speaker 3: on the table, and that's half the battle right now.
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Speaker 3: But I mean, is Michael right, Nick, But the suit
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Speaker 3: of Barnaby comes out and says, Yep, this is what
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Speaker 3: I'm doing.
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Speaker 1: Everyone can move on.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, of course he is. When this story broke at
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Speaker 2: the weekend or was it on Friday, Barnaby should have
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Speaker 2: either just denied it completely. He said he had no
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Speaker 2: intention of leaving the Nationals and joining One Nation while
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Speaker 2: he's in Parliament, or he should just get on and
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Speaker 2: do it, leave the party's party room and go and
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Speaker 2: join One Nation if that's what he's in to do.
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Speaker 2: I don't think that'd be a sensible thing right now,
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Speaker 2: but I do think it's a reminder of the importance
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Speaker 2: of the Curalition getting its act together, getting a firm
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Speaker 2: position on immigration, a firm position on energy policy that
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Speaker 2: the party can live with, both sides of the party
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Speaker 2: can live with, even if neither side is happy, because
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Speaker 2: if they don't fail to do that, and what we
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Speaker 2: see with Barnaby is just a foretaste of what's to come,
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Speaker 2: you will see a complete realignment of the center right,
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Speaker 2: which is not a good option. It's a much better
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Speaker 2: option that the Couralition goes in in the United position
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Speaker 2: to fight the next election.
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Speaker 3: It couldn't agree more give voters a clear and actual,
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Speaker 3: stark choice now. Look, the Queensland government has signed a
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Speaker 3: pseudo voice packed with seventeen Indigenous run councils, granting them
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Speaker 3: direct access to the state cabinet to advise them on
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Speaker 3: issues like housing and water access. Meanwhile, the state's sixty
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Speaker 3: other councils will be forced to continue dealing with layers
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Speaker 3: of bureaucracy to meet with government figures.
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Speaker 1: Michael, I can't help but wonder if this is some
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Speaker 1: sort of a voice by stealth.
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Speaker 7: I don't agree with it. You know, we're one nation
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Speaker 7: where you can't have a treaty. A nation can't have
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Speaker 7: a treaty with itself. That implies there are two nations
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Speaker 7: that can't get on and need special privileges to deal
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Speaker 7: with each other. It's very destructive, it's divisive, it's based
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Speaker 7: on race, and it's not helpful to the nation. So
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Speaker 7: to acknowledge, I mean, are there are hundreds and hundreds
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Speaker 7: of Aboriginal advisory bodies already? The Council of Peaks, I mean,
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Speaker 7: there's hundreds of them.
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Speaker 4: I don't think.
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Speaker 7: I don't think indigenous community's capacity to talk to state
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Speaker 7: and federal governments is any way being inhibited in recent years.
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Speaker 7: I can't think of any major examples where these voices
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Speaker 7: haven't been heard directly with governed, as they should be,
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Speaker 7: as every group making representations to governments and government bodies
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Speaker 7: should be heard, and they have been heard. But I
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Speaker 7: think the grand special privileges to one group over another
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Speaker 7: is wrong, and I regret that this is being done.
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Speaker 7: We've got this problem now in Victoria with the Voice
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Speaker 7: by Sealth coming to Victorian Parlan, which will which will
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Speaker 7: divide Victorians by race forever if it gets passed by
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Speaker 7: the Upper House. So no, I don't agree with these
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Speaker 7: types of proposals, and I wish the government would rethink
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Speaker 7: it up there.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I couldn't agree more. We're almost our time, Nick, But.
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Speaker 2: Your thoughts, well, rather than find these workarounds to bypass bureaucracy,
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Speaker 2: why not slim down the bureaucracy in the first place
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Speaker 2: and then make it fair for everybody. It's ludicrous that
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Speaker 2: you should do this for one particular group rather than another,
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Speaker 2: and I'm surprised the Queensland government is going anywhere near there.
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Speaker 3: Well, sixty percent us percent of us said no to
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Speaker 3: being divided by the color of our skin, So we
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Speaker 3: can't keep having this Nick Kate and Michael Kroger. Good
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Speaker 3: to see you both. Thanks so much for doing to
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Speaker 3: me on the show.
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Speaker 1: Appreciate it.
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Speaker 3: Joining me now is Women's Forum Australia's head of advocacy,
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Speaker 3: Stephanie Bastian. Step nice to catch up as always, Thanks
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Speaker 3: for joining me. Let's start with this story out of Victoria.
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Speaker 3: The government is under fire for ignoring repeated requests to
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Speaker 3: meet with parents of adolescence with gender distress. Now, this
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Speaker 3: is a group of parents whose children are struggling with
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Speaker 3: gender identity. It comes amid revelations Victory or in state
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Speaker 3: schools are allowing students to socially transition their gender without
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Speaker 3: parental knowledge or consent. Steph the Education Department's Deputy secretary
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Speaker 3: told the group that any further correspondence would be quote
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Speaker 3: filed and not responded to. And the premieer is running
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Speaker 3: away from this. Her government's refusing to record how many
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Speaker 3: kids this is happening to.
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Speaker 1: What has the premier got to hide?
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Speaker 4: Well, good evening, Danika, great to join you.
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Speaker 5: I mean the Premier is issuing a lot of platitudes
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Speaker 5: at the moment about supporting kids with gender diverse feelings
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Speaker 5: and emotions and when it comes to the parents that
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Speaker 5: are trying to deal with these children and to support them,
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Speaker 5: she's now running away.
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Speaker 4: The model in Victoria is wrong.
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Speaker 5: First of all, you have kids being educated about gender
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Speaker 5: ideology in schools. If you tell a child they can
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Speaker 5: change their sex or gender, which is used intimidtently, they
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Speaker 5: will believe you.
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Speaker 4: Then they're being socially transitioned at school.
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Speaker 5: So by the time the parents find out about them,
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Speaker 5: they're often at medical tal transition, and they've got these
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Speaker 5: conversion therapy laws to grapple with. How do they support
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Speaker 5: their children and get holistic care if the child is
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Speaker 5: already down the pathway of gender affirmation. It's an absolute disgrace.
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Speaker 5: But I do think the government is intentionally running away
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Speaker 5: from this. Their whole department seems to have been captured
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Speaker 5: by ideologues that are bent on pushing this agenda down
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Speaker 5: the throats of children, and it's an absolute disgrace. But
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Speaker 5: most concerningly is that it is causing very real harm
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Speaker 5: to these vulnerable children. It's not just a change of
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Speaker 5: name and a change of outfit. You're modifying their bodies
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Speaker 5: with the full extent of where this leads to.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely and once again, parents are left in the dark.
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Speaker 1: They've got no idea.
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Speaker 3: What's going on with their own children because of this
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Speaker 3: Wope ideology that's been thrust in classrooms and in general.
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Speaker 1: It's just terrible.
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Speaker 3: Now let's move on, because a second woman has come
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Speaker 3: forward detailing her quote five months of hell locked in
17:52
Speaker 3: a cell with a transgender prisoner in South Australia. She's
17:55
Speaker 3: told The Australian she was forced to share a cell
17:58
Speaker 3: with christ Richard, a violent criminal who was alleged last
18:01
Speaker 3: week to have brutally sexually assaulted a young woman. The
18:04
Speaker 3: former inmates said she was forced to sleep next to
18:06
Speaker 3: the near naked sixty nine year old once known as
18:09
Speaker 3: Leslie Graham Richards, but who has now had gender affirming
18:13
Speaker 3: surgery and claims to be a lesbian steph. Of course,
18:16
Speaker 3: I mean, this just comes days after the Premier Peter
18:18
Speaker 3: Malinowskis dismissed the safety of female inmates as a quote
18:23
Speaker 3: niche issue. I mean, the topic keeps coming up. Why
18:28
Speaker 3: are they so scared about the rights of women to
18:30
Speaker 3: even have this discussion.
18:33
Speaker 5: Well, Premier Malanowskis has made it very clear that women
18:36
Speaker 5: in custody are undeserving of his time and attention. It
18:40
Speaker 5: doesn't matter where it happens. Violence against women, abusive women
18:44
Speaker 5: is always wrong. Now, this is a woman who was
18:47
Speaker 5: systemically failed by corrections. She was forced to stay in
18:50
Speaker 5: a cell with this man who was also running around
18:53
Speaker 5: threatening women.
18:54
Speaker 4: I believe he chased her to assault her.
18:57
Speaker 5: There's strong allegations coming about the behavior of this man
19:00
Speaker 5: and she put up with it for five months because
19:02
Speaker 5: she was threatened to have moved to a prison further
19:05
Speaker 5: away from her children.
19:07
Speaker 4: This is absolutely inhumane.
19:09
Speaker 5: I think the Ombudsman at the time in twenty nineteen,
19:13
Speaker 5: Wayne Line should also be called out because he advocated
19:17
Speaker 5: for prison authorities to act more quickly on affirming Leslie
19:21
Speaker 5: Christ's gender and said that prison authorities hadn't moved quickly enough.
19:27
Speaker 5: And I just question these women. Where are the advocates
19:30
Speaker 5: in the prison system for these women? And we do
19:33
Speaker 5: know that there are other allegations against this prisoner as well,
19:36
Speaker 5: and he is still in a female prison. So absolute
19:39
Speaker 5: trial by the Premier and the Corrections Minister in South
19:42
Speaker 5: Australia who have failed to do nothing.
19:44
Speaker 4: In fact, they've dismissed it as a nache issue.
19:47
Speaker 3: Look it's an absolute disgrace and all credit up to
19:49
Speaker 3: the Northern Territory Leofanocchiaro, the only leader with a spine
19:52
Speaker 3: to actually come out and have a position on this.
19:55
Speaker 1: Now. Look, this is extraordinary.
19:57
Speaker 3: Over in the UK, prison officers have been ordered to
20:00
Speaker 3: offer transgender prisoners makeup and prosthetics in men's prisons. According
20:05
Speaker 3: to newly released government guidance, staff for urged to supply
20:08
Speaker 3: appropriate clothing and toilet trees, including makeup for their acquired gender,
20:13
Speaker 3: and help transgender inmates to buy or supply them with
20:16
Speaker 3: prosthetics or chest binders.
20:18
Speaker 1: I mean, Steph that this is just absurd.
20:23
Speaker 5: Look, I think if you're a male prisoner in a
20:25
Speaker 5: male prison, you're going to want to try and move
20:27
Speaker 5: to a female prison because of the privileges. I mean,
20:29
Speaker 5: there was a saying going around the UK prison onset
20:32
Speaker 5: gender dysphoria just for this particular purpose.
20:35
Speaker 4: It's an absolute disgrace.
20:37
Speaker 5: Obviously the UK have made leaps and bounds in terms
20:40
Speaker 5: of recognizing women under.
20:42
Speaker 4: Law, but they still have a long way to go.
20:44
Speaker 5: They'll be hopefully a series of court cases challenging the
20:48
Speaker 5: human rights of women in the prison system to get
20:50
Speaker 5: these men out, but you can just see the quagmire
20:54
Speaker 5: of mess that's come from gender ideology in our law.
20:58
Speaker 4: And just how far behind Australia is.
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Speaker 5: I mean, if women are recognized in Laura in the
21:01
Speaker 5: UK and they're still grappling with these issues, we've got
21:05
Speaker 5: a long way to go.
21:06
Speaker 1: We are so far behind the rest of the world.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely, Stephanie Bastian, nice to see you, Thanks very much
21:12
Speaker 3: for your time.
21:13
Speaker 1: This evening pasure still to come.
21:15
Speaker 3: Lefties losing it and the fallout continues from Donald Trump's
21:20
Speaker 3: dressing down of Kevin Rudd at the White House.
21:23
Speaker 1: Kosha Gada is upneas.
21:33
Speaker 3: And now it is time for lefties losing it, starting
21:36
Speaker 3: with the No King's rally to oppose Donald Trump and
21:39
Speaker 3: the real low vibrational attendees. Here are Democrat Senators Corey
21:44
Speaker 3: Booker and Adam Schiff giving it a go, trying to
21:48
Speaker 3: hamp up the crowds.
21:50
Speaker 1: This is what democracy looks. This is what democracy looks like.
21:53
Speaker 1: This says what democracy looks like. This say is what
21:56
Speaker 1: democracy looks.
21:59
Speaker 3: Yeah, I actually saw more enthusiasm from Joe Biden when
22:03
Speaker 3: he was walking around in circles than the enthusiasm from
22:06
Speaker 3: that crowd.
22:07
Speaker 1: So what exactly is their objection to Donald Trump? I'll
22:11
Speaker 1: let them explain. Trump's Ah, why is that? I don't know.
22:16
Speaker 1: We don't like him.
22:17
Speaker 8: That's the word around here.
22:19
Speaker 10: Any any particular reason why you don't like him.
22:21
Speaker 9: No clue at all.
22:22
Speaker 1: I'm just going with everybody else saying no, no, he
22:25
Speaker 1: doesn't know. I'm not sure. I don't understand either. Maybe
22:28
Speaker 1: this woman can explain.
22:30
Speaker 4: Couldn't even protest like that if we had a king.
22:33
Speaker 1: So it's kind of a point.
22:38
Speaker 11: I'm going to try to break this down for you
22:40
Speaker 11: in words that you will understand.
22:42
Speaker 4: No have king, No have king?
22:44
Speaker 11: Good good have president? President not good president acting like king.
22:51
Speaker 11: Bad president, consolidating power, president not representing the people.
22:58
Speaker 3: We wh Wow, that really made sense, didn't it? Okay,
23:03
Speaker 3: one more time, maybe this woman can help us.
23:06
Speaker 1: What has president dropped on to make him a monarch?
23:10
Speaker 12: He started to take control and do illegal things and
23:14
Speaker 12: that are not within his power. So that's pretty much
23:18
Speaker 12: what makes a person of monarch. They take complete control
23:21
Speaker 12: even though they shouldn't have it.
23:23
Speaker 1: He was elected. Does she know that? Who's going to
23:26
Speaker 1: tell her? Now?
23:27
Speaker 3: To serial teds afflicted Robert de Niro and his latest
23:30
Speaker 3: deranged outburst.
23:33
Speaker 13: He's an alien and he wants to he wants to
23:38
Speaker 13: hurt this country. It's something deeply psychological in him. He
23:42
Speaker 13: wants to hurt people. He wants to hurt this country.
23:45
Speaker 13: Doesn't care. And what saddens me the most, upsets me
23:49
Speaker 13: the most is that people follow him.
23:52
Speaker 3: Good one, Robert, the world really appreciates your eagle eyed
23:55
Speaker 3: political commentary.
23:56
Speaker 1: And look at seems as though old Rob was.
23:59
Speaker 3: On a dumboned, louded role while appearing on his preferred channel, MSNBC.
24:04
Speaker 1: No one was spared, not even Donald Trump's senior advisor
24:08
Speaker 1: Stephen Miller.
24:09
Speaker 13: He will not he we see it. We see it.
24:12
Speaker 13: We see it every we see it all the time.
24:14
Speaker 13: He will not want to leave. He set it up
24:18
Speaker 13: with his I guess he's the gabbles of the of
24:22
Speaker 13: the Cabinet, Stephen Miller. He's he's a Nazi, Yes he is,
24:28
Speaker 13: and he's Jewish and he should be ashamed of himself.
24:31
Speaker 3: Yeah, what is it about the tolerant left and their
24:34
Speaker 3: violent rhetoric? And while we're on the topic of Hollywood
24:38
Speaker 3: has beens? Kathy Griffin is at it again.
24:41
Speaker 14: I'm just gonna say this and you can put my
24:43
Speaker 14: tinfoil head on you ready?
24:46
Speaker 4: I love it?
24:46
Speaker 1: Please, I Kathy.
24:48
Speaker 4: Griffin, do not think that Donald won in a free
24:51
Speaker 4: and fair election.
24:53
Speaker 2: Oo.
24:55
Speaker 4: It's a heart take degree degree.
25:00
Speaker 1: You're going to laugh at the way she says, are
25:01
Speaker 1: you ready?
25:02
Speaker 3: As if it's the first time she said this, as
25:05
Speaker 3: if it's the first time she's claimed that the twenty
25:07
Speaker 3: twenty four election was rigged.
25:09
Speaker 1: I mean, we've heard about it about a.
25:10
Speaker 3: Thousand times, but she's got the old tinfoil hat on.
25:14
Speaker 3: Now for the dumbest press secretary in history, Karen Jean Pierre.
25:18
Speaker 3: Remember her, the woman who, along with everyone else, covered
25:21
Speaker 3: up Joe Biden's mental decline. Well, sadly she's back on
25:25
Speaker 3: TV and back doing what she does best, covering up
25:29
Speaker 3: Joe Biden's mental decline.
25:32
Speaker 14: When we talk about the mental acuity, and again I
25:34
Speaker 14: take this very very seriously. I never saw anyone who
25:39
Speaker 14: wasn't there. I saw someone who was always engaged.
25:43
Speaker 1: Can you believe it?
25:43
Speaker 3: She's still covering for him. The gas lighting is unbelievable.
25:47
Speaker 3: She saw nothing, She saw none of this.
25:51
Speaker 1: If your hole's near, and dear to you that you.
25:55
Speaker 15: Like to be able to.
25:58
Speaker 16: Anyway, No, in with.
26:03
Speaker 1: With I don't know what.
26:09
Speaker 3: I'll speaking of falling over? Why do the left just
26:12
Speaker 3: fall over themselves?
26:14
Speaker 15: They had ice agents break into their home in the
26:18
Speaker 15: middle of the night, take them, take them to the
26:23
Speaker 15: holding in Miami. We didn't know where they had gone.
26:26
Speaker 9: You could give me some details about this. I would
26:28
Speaker 9: love to bring attention to that.
26:30
Speaker 15: No, I'm not going to bring attention to them.
26:32
Speaker 9: Do you know their names?
26:33
Speaker 16: Hi?
26:33
Speaker 15: They're dear friends of ours and we're not.
26:35
Speaker 9: I would love to help your friends if they've been
26:38
Speaker 9: wrongfully detained in any way and they're not being even
26:42
Speaker 9: given human decency down in Alligator Alcatraz, I would love
26:46
Speaker 9: to help them.
26:47
Speaker 15: We weren't down there. Okay, this is ten years ago.
26:49
Speaker 15: Oh oh, this was ten years ago. Okay, so where
26:51
Speaker 15: are they now? So that has nothing to do with
26:53
Speaker 15: what Trump is doing? Well, no, it was less than
26:56
Speaker 15: ten years whoops.
26:58
Speaker 3: And that's one of my favorite segments, the crazed white
27:01
Speaker 3: liberal Karens of America starting with this lunatic who just
27:04
Speaker 3: wants to leave.
27:06
Speaker 4: Well, doesn't daughter that eat like I'm not even today?
27:21
Speaker 1: Like, oh my god, God, delightful. And there's just no
27:34
Speaker 1: reasoning with them, is there?
27:36
Speaker 10: And you.
27:39
Speaker 1: An abuse.
27:39
Speaker 4: Men can't control their emotions and abuse.
27:43
Speaker 9: Excuse me, I'm andry, I mean ray, and I'm loud.
27:47
Speaker 1: That's not emotional.
27:48
Speaker 10: That's called being persistent and passionate and all.
27:52
Speaker 1: They don't yell and said, that's not that's not emotional.
27:57
Speaker 1: That's I want to say. I'm that's the one is
28:00
Speaker 1: what makes you feel logical? And yeah, I've got to
28:03
Speaker 1: give it to these Karens. They're always so triggered. You
28:08
Speaker 1: get triggered because it has chorally on their own. He
28:10
Speaker 1: was a racist because he was, and not me that
28:14
Speaker 1: you was, wam, get out?
28:19
Speaker 15: Do you hated people? It wasn't Street.
28:26
Speaker 3: Joining me now is Sky newsic contributor Kosher Gata Kosher.
28:29
Speaker 1: Nice to see you, Thanks for joining me.
28:31
Speaker 3: Let's start with Donald Trump's takedown of Kevin Rather have
28:34
Speaker 3: a look where.
28:39
Speaker 16: You said before, took his positions to prison.
28:43
Speaker 4: But I don't like you either, Will.
28:50
Speaker 1: It was quite a moment, Kosher. What's your reaction? What
28:53
Speaker 1: do you make of it?
28:56
Speaker 16: Oh, it certainly was quite a moment in na I
28:58
Speaker 16: think you know, on so level it was sort of
29:01
Speaker 16: a microcosm or metaphor, I should say, of the US
29:04
Speaker 16: Australia relationship in a way so far under these two administrations,
29:08
Speaker 16: in particular where he didn't even know or remember who
29:11
Speaker 16: Kevin Rudd was, didn't know he was at the table.
29:14
Speaker 16: It's been nine months until this meeting took place. So
29:17
Speaker 16: it's just suggesting that, you know, there's a table and
29:19
Speaker 16: Australia has not so far seemed to be at it,
29:22
Speaker 16: but at least finally they are. I think the second
29:24
Speaker 16: thing too, is politics is so performative. Everything is performative
29:28
Speaker 16: from all the actors. But what's different about Trump and
29:31
Speaker 16: what many people have found and daring about him, is
29:33
Speaker 16: he just owns it. Like he's very happy to be performative,
29:36
Speaker 16: play that role, have the cameras rolling in these meetings
29:39
Speaker 16: and you know, be a truth teller.
29:41
Speaker 4: And saying I don't like you.
29:42
Speaker 16: I probably never will, but that's okay. We can still
29:45
Speaker 16: do deals, we can still be allies, and we don't
29:47
Speaker 16: have to pretend to like each other.
29:49
Speaker 3: Well here's what the opposition later, Susan Ley said about
29:51
Speaker 3: the future of Kevin Rodd following that exchange. Well, Kevin
29:55
Speaker 3: Rudd really was the elephant in the room, Pate, and
29:59
Speaker 3: it's a bit awkward.
30:00
Speaker 10: Isn't it.
30:00
Speaker 7: It's taken nearly a year to get this meeting and
30:03
Speaker 7: that's been a failure of the ambassador.
30:05
Speaker 1: I don't believe he should stay in that role.
30:07
Speaker 7: And to see the Prime Minister actually laughing at his
30:10
Speaker 7: own ambassador in the room when the President made a joke.
30:15
Speaker 1: I think it's it's untenable. I mean, it was embarrassing.
30:18
Speaker 3: Let's be honest, kosher realistically, can Kevin run keep his role?
30:24
Speaker 1: Do you think?
30:27
Speaker 16: You know many people have been saying he shouldn't have
30:29
Speaker 16: been in it for the past nine months at all,
30:31
Speaker 16: because he's had those public statements that he's later retracted
30:34
Speaker 16: or withdrawn and that's out there forever. And is he
30:38
Speaker 16: really that effective? And is somebody who on a deep
30:41
Speaker 16: level seems to really dislike Trump effective? But Prime Minister
30:44
Speaker 16: Albaniazi has decided to stand behind him. I think it
30:47
Speaker 16: obviously makes a fair point. This is the opportunity for
30:50
Speaker 16: the opposition to pounce on that because it was a
30:53
Speaker 16: bit awkward. That would be the most charitable word for
30:55
Speaker 16: the Prime Minister to laugh along with Trump at him.
30:59
Speaker 16: For me, I thought Evian Rudd's facial expression gave it
31:01
Speaker 16: away that he wasn't at all enjoying that laugh or
31:04
Speaker 16: being laughed at by both of them. But he sort
31:06
Speaker 16: of had to go through the ring of fire because
31:08
Speaker 16: of the situation that he created. But for now, at least,
31:11
Speaker 16: it sounds like he's staying put in that's seat in
31:13
Speaker 16: that rule.
31:14
Speaker 7: Well.
31:14
Speaker 3: I mean, we all thought maybe Albo might get the
31:16
Speaker 3: dressing down. Little did we know it would be Kevin
31:18
Speaker 3: right on the opposite end of the table. But yeah,
31:20
Speaker 3: certainly fascinating scenes. But let's talk about the meeting itself.
31:24
Speaker 3: How did Anthony Albaneze do? Did he get the right result?
31:27
Speaker 3: I mean, this was a long time coming. There's been
31:29
Speaker 3: so much anticipation building up to it. It appears the
31:32
Speaker 3: orcat steel is safe. That must be seen as a win.
31:37
Speaker 16: Yes, And I think just the point you made just
31:40
Speaker 16: before that because a good one. Maybe that's why he
31:42
Speaker 16: brought Kevin Rud out the table to sort of create
31:45
Speaker 16: a diversion and let Kevin Rud be the magnet that
31:47
Speaker 16: sucks the iro out of Trump and giving him some
31:49
Speaker 16: clean space to do what he needs to do policy wise.
31:53
Speaker 16: I think getting the enthusiastic reaffirmation of ocus is a
31:57
Speaker 16: good thing. There's reportedly some ironing out of the framework
32:01
Speaker 16: that is still going to happen, but in general Trump
32:03
Speaker 16: did take a dig at at Biden, as he often does,
32:06
Speaker 16: for being very slow to move, and he says he's
32:08
Speaker 16: actually going to accelerate it and be on track to
32:10
Speaker 16: get the sub submarines by the deadline of twenty thirty.
32:13
Speaker 16: And then the other big thing was the minerals deal.
32:16
Speaker 16: That is something that is really picking up a lot
32:18
Speaker 16: of heat in the global trade war between the US
32:20
Speaker 16: and China, and Australia does have a pivotal role in
32:23
Speaker 16: that as well. So I think those two things, it
32:25
Speaker 16: does look like the Prime Minister seems to have walked
32:28
Speaker 16: away with a stronger position and more clarity about where
32:32
Speaker 16: there's a common ground and shared roles. That the common
32:35
Speaker 16: ground that we can find between both countries and a
32:37
Speaker 16: shared role that we can both countries can play for
32:39
Speaker 16: mutual better interests, and hopefully that stays on track.
32:43
Speaker 3: And just before we move on to other topics, I
32:45
Speaker 3: want to ask you about this critical minerals deal that's
32:47
Speaker 3: been signed by Australia and the US. It's worth thirteen
32:50
Speaker 3: billion dollars. What does this mean for US?
32:55
Speaker 16: You know, the biggest value that I think Australia brings
32:58
Speaker 16: in general to the alliance right now, but specifically for
33:01
Speaker 16: what Trump is keedan on, and that is his trade
33:03
Speaker 16: war with China is geographic proximity to China, and then
33:06
Speaker 16: also these critical minerals, because there is an escalating trade
33:09
Speaker 16: war going on right now, and China has over the
33:11
Speaker 16: past couple of decades and more really been locking up
33:15
Speaker 16: rare minerals from other countries around the world, and the
33:19
Speaker 16: US and President Trump really has taken note of that,
33:21
Speaker 16: and Australia provides counterbalance to that, a meaningful one. So
33:26
Speaker 16: the value of it trickling right into the Australian economy
33:29
Speaker 16: is a good thing. Having the rare earth minerals is
33:31
Speaker 16: one thing, but being able to refine it and actually
33:33
Speaker 16: develop it is sophisticated manufacturing that this steel hopefully would
33:37
Speaker 16: undergird some sort of further partnership between the US and Australia.
33:40
Speaker 16: And it also really is just a counterweight and a
33:43
Speaker 16: deterrent to China strategy in this category.
33:45
Speaker 3: Yeah, look absolutely well, finally got the mating and it's
33:48
Speaker 3: been a fascinating twenty four hours in Washington, that's for sure.
33:51
Speaker 3: Let's move on because a court has ruled that Donald
33:53
Speaker 3: Trump can deploy Oregon National Guard troops into the city
33:57
Speaker 3: of Portland.
33:58
Speaker 1: Now, look, this has been interesting. Came to get your
34:01
Speaker 1: views on how big of a win.
34:02
Speaker 3: Is this because there's been a lot of setbacks in
34:05
Speaker 3: Donald Trump's efforts to crack down on crime in parts
34:07
Speaker 3: of America.
34:08
Speaker 1: This has gone to court. The Court of Appeals has
34:11
Speaker 1: now got no go for it. But does it set
34:13
Speaker 1: a standard.
34:17
Speaker 16: It certainly sets a good winning precedent for the Trump administration.
34:21
Speaker 16: The other side very well may appeal it up to
34:23
Speaker 16: the Supreme Court, and they'll obviously have the final say,
34:26
Speaker 16: but they are largely expected to uphold this ruling. And
34:30
Speaker 16: in other cases where other circuits and appeals courts have
34:33
Speaker 16: ruled in the reverse and the opposite effect, those are
34:36
Speaker 16: making their way up to the Supreme Court as well.
34:37
Speaker 16: And there's the expectation is that the Supreme Court will
34:40
Speaker 16: again rule in Trump the Trump Administration's favor. Because again,
34:44
Speaker 16: while there is sovereignty and we like that in the
34:47
Speaker 16: US and states have their own sovereign rights, the whole
34:50
Speaker 16: thing that the Trump administration is anchoring this on is
34:53
Speaker 16: they're going there to provide back up. The National Guard
34:56
Speaker 16: is going to provide backup to ICE. So ICE is
34:59
Speaker 16: allowed to go and find these the illegals and conduct
35:04
Speaker 16: their mass deportation operations if they're being attacked, which they
35:07
Speaker 16: are day in and day out. The National Guard and
35:09
Speaker 16: whoever else the federal government wants to deploy to protect
35:12
Speaker 16: ICE agents, they are allowed to do. So that's what
35:14
Speaker 16: this ruling says. It's a very important precedent and hopefully
35:17
Speaker 16: we see that ripple effect come out in the other circuits.
35:20
Speaker 3: Yeah, look absolutely, Now Senate Democrats have again blocked the
35:25
Speaker 3: Republicans planned to reopen the government for an eleventh time. Look, Kosher,
35:30
Speaker 3: this is just getting ridiculous. Now the shutdown's nearing its
35:34
Speaker 3: fourth week. There just appears to be no end in sight.
35:37
Speaker 1: What is it going to take?
35:39
Speaker 16: Do you think, indeed this is an impasse? It's just
35:44
Speaker 16: a few days shy of the longest shutdown in history,
35:47
Speaker 16: which was in Trump's first term thirty five days. I
35:49
Speaker 16: think we're injurin close to that benchmark. And this time
35:52
Speaker 16: though it is different compared to last time, where ultimately
35:55
Speaker 16: it was Trump that caved. Is that this time the
35:58
Speaker 16: one big beautiful bill that was passed before we got
36:01
Speaker 16: to the shutdown point already has funded Trump's agenda by
36:05
Speaker 16: and large, all the mass deportation efforts that we just discussed,
36:08
Speaker 16: other things relating to the wall, cutting funding for illegals
36:13
Speaker 16: that are taking up public welfare programs, things like that
36:16
Speaker 16: that are very popular. He's got all of that squared away,
36:18
Speaker 16: which puts him in a position to really.
36:20
Speaker 4: Play hardball on this.
36:22
Speaker 16: Yes, the right side of the aisle, and the Republicans
36:25
Speaker 16: will pay a little bit of a price politically when
36:27
Speaker 16: certain things start to not function properly as the shutdown
36:30
Speaker 16: drags on, But most of those things that the American
36:33
Speaker 16: people support, he's got locked away. This politically puts the
36:37
Speaker 16: other side, the Democrats, in a very tough light. And
36:40
Speaker 16: I don't think it's going to be the Trump administration
36:42
Speaker 16: that's going to cave this time. It's going to be
36:43
Speaker 16: the Democrats. The sticking point is health care for illegals.
36:47
Speaker 16: That is a red line that Team Trump has drawn,
36:49
Speaker 16: and it's going to take them to capitulate on that.
36:51
Speaker 16: The Democrats capitulating on that is what it'll take to
36:54
Speaker 16: finally break this impasse.
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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, the DEM's demands have just been absolutely
36:58
Speaker 3: ridiculous from the beginning. But the interesting thing is is
37:01
Speaker 3: that this shutdown has not even harmed President Trump's public support.
37:04
Speaker 3: In fact, his approval rating has increased.
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Speaker 17: Have a look at this about Donald Trump shutdowns net
37:10
Speaker 17: approval rating. We're talking twenty days into it. In twenty
37:13
Speaker 17: eighteen slash twenty nineteen, Donald Trump's not approprating was already falling.
37:17
Speaker 17: The shutdown was eating in. It was popular support. It
37:20
Speaker 17: was down three points already at this particular point and
37:23
Speaker 17: would fall considerably more. It was very much on the decline.
37:26
Speaker 17: You come over to this side of the screen, this
37:28
Speaker 17: shutdown hasn't eaten and the Donald Trump support at all
37:31
Speaker 17: isn't That approval rating is actually up a point and
37:34
Speaker 17: in terms of in terms of his popular support.
37:38
Speaker 1: Kosher it seems as though it's backfired for the Democrats.
37:43
Speaker 16: I think the foundational point is is that Trump actually
37:46
Speaker 16: is not as hated as he was then. He still
37:49
Speaker 16: is hated by many many people, but.
37:51
Speaker 1: A little bit less so.
37:52
Speaker 16: He is actually more popular than he was the first
37:54
Speaker 16: time around for many reasons. Second is, on this issue, specifically,
37:58
Speaker 16: the lynchpin that we talked about where coming down to
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Speaker 16: illegals and should they be beneficiaries of free health care not.
38:03
Speaker 16: That's sort of the sticking point. The country and the
38:07
Speaker 16: electorate has completely shifted in the last ten years on
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Speaker 16: this issue. They are in support of mass deportations, certainly
38:13
Speaker 16: the violent criminal illegals, but even the rest of them,
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Speaker 16: and not continuing to give welfare handouts and hard earned
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Speaker 16: taxpayer American tax payer money to illegals, even if they're
38:22
Speaker 16: quote unquote good people. You come in the country and
38:24
Speaker 16: stay illegally, you should not be getting access to welfare.
38:27
Speaker 16: So that issue, the Trump team has done a really
38:29
Speaker 16: good job, I think of reframing it and people sort
38:31
Speaker 16: of get that the branding on the other side is
38:34
Speaker 16: a Schumer shutdown, and just the way they've been behaving
38:37
Speaker 16: in the fact that they are at an all time
38:38
Speaker 16: low electorally, politically, in the court of public opinion and
38:41
Speaker 16: everything else, is helping sort of boostop Trump in this
38:44
Speaker 16: fight as it continues.
38:46
Speaker 1: Yeah, look, no doubt about it now. I thought that's
38:48
Speaker 1: what was interesting.
38:49
Speaker 3: The New York Post editorial board has called for Republican
38:52
Speaker 3: New York City mayoral candidate Curtis see Why to quit
38:56
Speaker 3: to stop Zoran ma'am Dani and It comes as a
38:59
Speaker 3: new poll has found that the Democratic nominee Ma'am Danni
39:02
Speaker 3: maintains a comfortable lead in the race, Kosha, as he
39:06
Speaker 3: has for some time. Do you see see why actually
39:09
Speaker 3: pulling the pin realistically now, this is.
39:14
Speaker 16: Really really tough one. And I don't envy his position
39:17
Speaker 16: because what they're asking the New York Post on others
39:20
Speaker 16: is for Curtisiola to be a tragic hero in this
39:23
Speaker 16: really because he's pulling at around fifteen to twenty percent.
39:26
Speaker 16: That's actually pretty strong for a Republican candidate these days
39:29
Speaker 16: in New York, and that is cannibalizing the vote between
39:32
Speaker 16: the other two, and with Cuomo is fifteen to twenty
39:35
Speaker 16: points that same difference basically behind mam Dani. So theoretically,
39:39
Speaker 16: if he pulls out, it puts Cuomo in, giving him
39:43
Speaker 16: a fighting chance to possibly win. However, not everybody who
39:47
Speaker 16: right now is supporting Silva is going to flow over
39:49
Speaker 16: to Cuomo.
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Speaker 1: He is not exactly the.
39:51
Speaker 16: Most favor sympathetic figure in general. A lot of people
39:54
Speaker 16: are still very angry with how he mishandled COVID, among
39:56
Speaker 16: other things. He himself, Cuomo is not as strong as
40:00
Speaker 16: he was in the prime of his career, so it
40:02
Speaker 16: really is a lesser of the two evils issue. I
40:05
Speaker 16: don't know if he's going to do it or not.
40:07
Speaker 16: The pressure is on for him, but even if he
40:09
Speaker 16: does it, it'll certainly tighten the race. But even with that,
40:12
Speaker 16: it just really looks like this is mum Daney's unfortunately
40:15
Speaker 16: to win.
40:16
Speaker 1: Unfortunately.
40:17
Speaker 3: Gosh, you know, I just don't even know what to say,
40:21
Speaker 3: to be honest, when it comes to that bloke.
40:23
Speaker 1: It's extraordinary that he is ahead in the polls.
40:26
Speaker 3: Before we let you go, let's talk about Bernie Sanders.
40:29
Speaker 3: He's gone on the view saying that the Democratic Party
40:31
Speaker 3: needs to make a fundamental decision about what they stand for.
40:34
Speaker 1: Have a listen.
40:35
Speaker 18: I think that Trump won a lot of working class people,
40:39
Speaker 18: not because they wanted tax breaks for billionaires, not because
40:44
Speaker 18: they wanted to throw fifteen million people off the healthcare
40:47
Speaker 18: they have or double health insurance premiums. That is not
40:51
Speaker 18: why working class people voted for Trump. I think they
40:54
Speaker 18: voted for Trump because they look at the Democrats and
40:56
Speaker 18: they said, what do you stand for? What side do
40:58
Speaker 18: you want?
41:00
Speaker 1: Is he right kosher?
41:03
Speaker 16: You know, he is trying to return to his roots
41:06
Speaker 16: there he was the og from the Democrat Party when yes,
41:10
Speaker 16: they were the party of the working class. Like now,
41:12
Speaker 16: it seems like a lifetime ago, and he was the
41:15
Speaker 16: best representative of that. But he missed his moment. His
41:17
Speaker 16: moment was in twenty sixteen where he absolutely was organically
41:20
Speaker 16: giving Hillary Clinton a run for her money. He beat
41:23
Speaker 16: her in the Michigan primaries in terms of the organic
41:25
Speaker 16: support and other parts of the rust belt, but then
41:28
Speaker 16: because of the weird super delegate system that the democratcrats have,
41:31
Speaker 16: she was still able to lock up the nomination, and
41:34
Speaker 16: when the moment really mattered, he rolled over folded like
41:37
Speaker 16: a cheap tent. And because of that, he no longer
41:39
Speaker 16: has credibility on this issue, even though he once did so.
41:42
Speaker 16: He's right in the diagnosis of the issue, but he
41:44
Speaker 16: has no credibility. He's not the spokesperson for it, and
41:47
Speaker 16: I don't know who is in the Democrat Party anymore.
41:49
Speaker 16: They've left that era behind that he's talking of. They
41:52
Speaker 16: absolutely are viewed as the party of billionaires. One billionaire
41:56
Speaker 16: after another very much supports the Democrats. You've sort of
41:59
Speaker 16: got elon mass can me be Zuckerberg and Bezos in
42:01
Speaker 16: recent times begrudgingly pulling away. But by and large that
42:06
Speaker 16: that ship that he's talked about has sealed, they can
42:08
Speaker 16: figure out how to come back to that. I think
42:10
Speaker 16: it'll be better for the country to actually have both
42:12
Speaker 16: parties caring about the working class and maybe differing a
42:15
Speaker 16: little bit on the margins of the policy and the
42:17
Speaker 16: solutions for serving them. But that is not where the
42:19
Speaker 16: Democrats are right now.
42:21
Speaker 3: No, very clearly not Koshergarda. Good to see thanks very
42:24
Speaker 3: much for joining me.
42:26
Speaker 4: Thank you.
42:27
Speaker 1: Still to come. The tolerant left strikes again.
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Speaker 3: Comedian Alex Stein is assaulted at a No King's protest
42:34
Speaker 3: in the US.
42:36
Speaker 1: He'll tell us what happened. That's next.
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Speaker 3: Joining me now is comedian and host of Primetime with
42:49
Speaker 3: Alex Stein on Blaze TV.
42:51
Speaker 1: Alex Stein himself. Good to see you.
42:53
Speaker 3: Thanks very much for joining me. We spoke earlier in
42:55
Speaker 3: the show about the No Kings protests.
42:57
Speaker 1: Now you went to the.
42:58
Speaker 3: One in Dallas where you were actually assaulted by the protesters.
43:02
Speaker 1: Have a look at this.
43:06
Speaker 4: Assaulted oh by.
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Speaker 15: Charley Yet.
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Speaker 1: Alex, take us through what happened.
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Speaker 10: Well, you know, this is a unique protest. This is
43:24
Speaker 10: the No Kings protest, and this is the second iteration
43:27
Speaker 10: of this protest. And I even though the mainstream media
43:31
Speaker 10: did get caught sharing fake images of this event, you know,
43:34
Speaker 10: trying to make it seem like there was millions and
43:36
Speaker 10: millions of people there, there were still lots of people.
43:38
Speaker 10: And I was in Dallas and basically I was just
43:41
Speaker 10: trying to fit in. And what happened was is there
43:44
Speaker 10: was another kid that was there that was wearing a
43:46
Speaker 10: Maga hat, and once they started to kind of attack him,
43:48
Speaker 10: I stepped in and that made me a target. And
43:52
Speaker 10: you know, as you saw in the video, once they
43:54
Speaker 10: realized who I was and that I was right leaning,
43:56
Speaker 10: I became an enemy and I felt like a piece
43:59
Speaker 10: of meat with a bunch of abid dogs all trying
44:01
Speaker 10: to get a bite.
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Speaker 4: I mean it really did feel like that.
44:04
Speaker 3: I mean, they're just all so pathetic, seriously, And I
44:07
Speaker 3: want to show our viewer was another clip of you
44:09
Speaker 3: at the protest.
44:10
Speaker 16: Have a look.
44:25
Speaker 3: So they were chanting shame Alex, and I've got to
44:27
Speaker 3: say it reminded me of this from Game of Thrones.
44:31
Speaker 1: Shame shame, shame sheme sheme, Yeah, shame on you, Alex.
44:44
Speaker 1: You had your own Game of Thrones moment.
44:45
Speaker 3: But you know, what does it say about the tolerant
44:48
Speaker 3: left that we hear all about.
44:51
Speaker 10: Well, you know, it's funny that you actually use the
44:54
Speaker 10: Game of Thrones reference, because not only were there tons
44:57
Speaker 10: of Game of Thrones people yelling shame tale, I saw
45:01
Speaker 10: ten different people and the Handmaid's tales. So that's really
45:04
Speaker 10: what's going on is we have a lot of people
45:05
Speaker 10: that are just live action role playing LARPing activists. They
45:09
Speaker 10: really don't even care about the cause that they're so
45:11
Speaker 10: mad and up.
45:12
Speaker 1: In arms about.
45:13
Speaker 10: So when you look at these people, I really kind
45:16
Speaker 10: of look at a lost bunch looking for a path,
45:18
Speaker 10: looking for a direction, And once again they realized that
45:22
Speaker 10: I wasn't there on their side, so I became the target.
45:24
Speaker 10: Even though they didn't talk to me, they didn't want
45:26
Speaker 10: to have a conversation. They immediately want to start throwing
45:28
Speaker 10: water and attacking. So I feel bad that the left
45:31
Speaker 10: is so impulsive and out of touch with the reality.
45:33
Speaker 10: And I think that's why this whole protest happened. No kings,
45:36
Speaker 10: We're in America. We don't have kings. Why are we
45:38
Speaker 10: protesting against kings? It just shows you, even the protests,
45:42
Speaker 10: the biggest protest that we had this year literally makes
45:45
Speaker 10: no sense out of context. No Kings, biggest protests in America.
45:48
Speaker 4: We don't have kings.
45:49
Speaker 10: Why are they even wasting their time protesting?
45:52
Speaker 17: No?
45:52
Speaker 3: And when you ask them why, they have no idea themselves.
45:55
Speaker 3: They've got nothing to say. Now, look at video of
45:58
Speaker 3: a woman mocking the death of Charlie Kirk at one
46:00
Speaker 3: of the protests has gone viral over the weekend.
46:02
Speaker 4: Have a look. Hey, you never heard?
46:09
Speaker 1: This is just disgusting, Alex.
46:11
Speaker 3: She's been identified as a school teacher in Chicago.
46:13
Speaker 1: Should she lose her job?
46:16
Speaker 10: You know, this is a tricky situation because I'm out
46:19
Speaker 10: right now, I'm outside of normal Illinois. I just got
46:21
Speaker 10: to speak at Illinois State University where there's a viral
46:25
Speaker 10: story this this Friday, and the actual teacher's assistant came
46:28
Speaker 10: over to the booth, the turning porn booth and knocked
46:30
Speaker 10: over the table, and that teacher ended up getting arrested
46:33
Speaker 10: and he lost his job. Now, in a way, I'm
46:36
Speaker 10: happy that he lost his job, but I never like
46:38
Speaker 10: it when somebody loses their job. So, but this woman,
46:41
Speaker 10: I don't really want her to lose her job, But
46:43
Speaker 10: should she lose her job. Yes, I think she should
46:45
Speaker 10: lose her job for making that sort of threat. Considering
46:47
Speaker 10: that she is teaching young children. So you know, if
46:50
Speaker 10: she was, like, you know, maybe a bus driver or something,
46:53
Speaker 10: you know, maybe she could keep her job with the
46:55
Speaker 10: fact that she's a teacher. Personally, I don't like when
46:57
Speaker 10: anybody loses their job, but she really shouldn't.
46:59
Speaker 4: Probably keep her.
47:00
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, look, that's a fair point that you make. Now,
47:03
Speaker 3: the former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton was among Democrats
47:06
Speaker 3: and Trump critics.
47:07
Speaker 1: They're having a real winge Alex.
47:09
Speaker 3: At a satirical AI video that the President posted showing
47:13
Speaker 3: him dropping brown sludge on No King's protesters.
47:16
Speaker 1: Have a look.
47:37
Speaker 3: Oh, I thought it was brilliant, alex I loved it. Well,
47:40
Speaker 3: where are the where is a sense of humor from
47:42
Speaker 3: the left? They've got nothing.
47:45
Speaker 10: No, you're exactly right.
47:46
Speaker 1: And obviously this is a joke.
47:48
Speaker 10: Anybody that's taking it serious, Like there are people that
47:50
Speaker 10: are like, oh, Donald Trump really wants to bomb us.
47:53
Speaker 10: I mean, this is how out of touch with the
47:54
Speaker 10: reality these people. I know, I keep saying that, but
47:57
Speaker 10: that's kind of like where we're at is one people
47:59
Speaker 10: believes in a real that and other people don't believe
48:02
Speaker 10: is real. So when you see a video like this,
48:04
Speaker 10: I can only laugh because Donald Trump has the best
48:06
Speaker 10: sense of humor of any elected politician in my lifetime,
48:10
Speaker 10: or probably anybody's lifetime for that matter.
48:12
Speaker 1: So when I see videos like this, I laugh.
48:14
Speaker 10: But at the same exact time though, Donald Trump and AI,
48:18
Speaker 10: you know, he's probably going crazy. I can't imagine the
48:20
Speaker 10: creative stuff that Donald Trump is going to come up
48:22
Speaker 10: with AI, So I would not want to be one
48:24
Speaker 10: of Donald Trump's enemies, with him having the keys to
48:27
Speaker 10: the digital castle and he created anything else.
48:29
Speaker 3: They's they's out there annihilating his keyboard. He's having way
48:33
Speaker 3: too much fun with this, and we're enjoying it as well. Now,
48:35
Speaker 3: look at Illinois State University teaching assistant's been fired after
48:39
Speaker 3: he was captured on video flipping a turning Point USA
48:42
Speaker 3: table which had actually been promoting an upcoming appearance by yourself.
48:47
Speaker 1: Have a look at this.
48:49
Speaker 2: Jesus did it so you know I gotta do it.
48:58
Speaker 4: Thanks, guys, have a great thing.
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Speaker 1: How did this get covered?
49:04
Speaker 4: So sad? Oh?
49:10
Speaker 1: Well, Alex, what can I say? It looks like you
49:12
Speaker 1: will get the last laugh.
49:15
Speaker 10: Yes, sadly, Derek Lopez is still in jail, and you know,
49:18
Speaker 10: I never like it when somebody's in jail, but I
49:20
Speaker 10: wish he could have been out of jail because I
49:22
Speaker 10: would have loved for him to come to the event.
49:23
Speaker 10: There's only three protesters at it. We had hundreds of
49:26
Speaker 10: Turning Point USA kids there. So in the end, everything
49:29
Speaker 10: that he did only brought more positive attention to Turning Points.
49:32
Speaker 10: So I honestly feel bad for the guy. And on
49:35
Speaker 10: top of that, he lost his job, so he's not
49:37
Speaker 10: doing too well today. So I think that's kind of
49:39
Speaker 10: a we can all learn a lesson. Sometimes when you're
49:41
Speaker 10: impulsive and you react without thinking, there's serious consequences, and
49:45
Speaker 10: sadly he had to face those consequences and the event was,
49:49
Speaker 10: you know, it was a total success. So at the
49:51
Speaker 10: end of the day, you got to pick your battles,
49:53
Speaker 10: pick the ones you can win.
49:55
Speaker 3: Absolutely, Alex side not to say it was always good
49:58
Speaker 3: to catch up. Thanks very much for your me on
50:00
Speaker 3: the show. Appreciate it.
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Speaker 10: Always a pleasure. Thank you for having me.
50:04
Speaker 1: And that's it for me. Up next to News Night,
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Speaker 1: Good Night,