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SECRETS of Divine Masculine Energy Revealed · Mindful Success Path

• 0:32
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I have oftentimes told the women that I work with that if they want to really understand what healthy masculine behavior is, that they should go ask a man.
• 0:42
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And today, that's exactly what we're going to be doing.
• 0:44
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I've brought my husband, Justin Keltner, otherwise known on YouTube as Entrepreneur Expat, to come on and share his perspective as a healthy masculine man about what is going on here in the world of relationships and dating.
• 1:01
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: So, thank you, my love for coming on and, and saying, you know, I wanna come on and I wanna talk about some of the things that women need to know about men.
• 1:09
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Happy to be here and happy to be sharing, uh, this with your channel.
• 1:14
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: This is gonna be fun.
• 1:15
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Before we get into it, my name is Amanda and on this channel we talk about how to manifest what you want in life without all the extra stress, chaos, and drama that most people are accustomed to.
• 1:25
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Lately we've been talking a lot about relationship dynamics, feminine energy, masculine energy, and everything in between.
• 1:32
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: So if that's something that you're interested in, make sure to subscribe and hit the notification bell so you don't miss a single video that we have coming out on this channel.
• 1:40
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Thank you for reminding me.
• 1:41
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Please give it a like, uh, as well because that helps us get it in front of more and more women.
• 1:47
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: So many women have been reaching out, uh, in the emails or in the comments section saying, thank you so much for talking about these things.
• 1:54
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: No one ever taught me these things.
• 1:56
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Now dating and relationships and marriage and men are making a lot more sense to me.
• 2:01
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: So you can help this, help us get this in front of more women.
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  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: By giving it a like, and it's always, if we have extra trainings or resources to go deeper into the content, uh, of today, then I will make mention of those, uh, throughout the video.
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  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: But let's, let's get into it, because a lot of the women have been asking some very juicy questions, and I've been noticing some interesting things, uh, in the comments section that when I pointed it out to you, uh, you were like, Hey, Amanda, um, I would love to come on and talk to the ladies that you're talking to and just kind of share it from a, a man's perspective.
• 2:37
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And I'm so grateful to you that anytime something like that happens, and this is a very healthy masculine behavior, you immediately wanna jump in and you wanna help and you wanna help, uh, solve problems and give mentorship.
• 2:50
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And you're not just doing this here.
• 2:53
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: You also do it on your own YouTube channel mm-hmm.
• 2:55
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And with your own businesses.
• 2:56
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: So in case people don't know, I know some of you already do, um, you already follow him on YouTube, but for those who Dunno who you are, can you just kind of give like a quick little brief synopsis?
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  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: 'cause I think it gives a very, uh, interesting global perspective to the conversation that we're going to be having today.
• 3:14
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Absolutely.
• 3:15
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: So most recently I am most known as the entrepreneur, expat.
• 3:20
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And in that business we help a lot of people from all over the western world, the us, Canada, and other countries, move to places like Mexico, move to places like Eastern Europe, Southeast Asia, get residencies, get second citizenship.
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  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: So we're really helping people that are kind of fed up with what they're doing right now, uh, in their home country with what's going on politically with what's going on economically, and they're looking for better opportunities.
• 3:47
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And then I have also a background for over 15 years in technology and systems.
• 3:52
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: As well as in marketing and business training.
• 3:56
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: If any of you have had a tech issue with the membership portal, Justin is the one being that would be me making sure it gets fixed and it gets, uh, fixed very quickly.
• 4:05
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Uh, our joke in our relationship, which is a really great metaphor for masculine and feminine energy, is that I am the water.
• 4:13
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I am flowy, I am creative.
• 4:15
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Maybe a little erratic sometimes or a little bit not as organized.
• 4:19
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And you're the cup.
• 4:20
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: So you're the one that gives the containment, um, and the structure, which I think is a really great mm-hmm.
• 4:26
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Place to start because giving that containment and structure is healthy masculine energy.
• 4:32
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: So can you speak a little bit, uh, to that, because I just see you doing it in every area of your life.
• 4:40
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah, so I think that's a really good analogy, right?
• 4:42
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: You're, you're the water, you're flowy, you know, you, you are just sort of connecting with different energies and it sounds a little woo woo, but it's actually not, it's just kind of the nature of, of how you are and the nature of feminine in general.
• 4:56
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And what I do a lot of, I guess, just naturally is, is a lot of that containment.
• 5:00
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: So you might come up with a really brilliant idea, like, Hey, people are asking us about what's going on with expat stuff.
• 5:07
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: You know, let's start a channel, or, uh, hey, let's, let's start leaning more into products, or, Hey, let's focus on this, this group or this audience.
• 5:15
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: 'cause you have more of those sort of divine downloads, right?
• 5:18
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: You're starting to just get energetically feel into things and, and connect and be really intuitive.
• 5:24
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: You're, you're an extremely intuitive woman, and women overall tend to be more on that intuitive, energetic side than men.
• 5:31
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Connected women are exactly connected women, but you particularly are very well connected inside and, and with.
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  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Your spiritual connections and everything else, which I think increases your intuition.
• 5:42
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And then I think of myself as like the, the same way that I'm a systems person in business, kind of the systems person here, Amanda lovingly calls me her tech daddy.
• 5:55
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Um, but that's, that's part of that containment.
• 5:58
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: So you'll go and be like, okay, well we're gonna do this and we're gonna do that.
• 6:01
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And sometimes maybe you, you move fast and break things.
• 6:04
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And then I create the structure behind all of that so that when somebody does buy on the membership site, they actually get the stuff that you, that you created or making sure we're following up or, you know, we, we've got the content and you're putting, you're, you're helping a lot on, even on my channel with the content ideas and with, with some of the, the strategy and like big picture and then I'm obviously recording and then doing a lot of the optimization and then looking at it and saying, okay, how do we, how do we sort of 10 x this?
• 6:30
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Like, how do we take everything at the next level?
• 6:32
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: We've got the content, we're getting eyeballs, we're getting attention.
• 6:35
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: How do we then.
• 6:37
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Start running ads and build the pipeline to be even more functional and more effective and all these other things.
• 6:43
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: So it's a very collaborative relationship.
• 6:46
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Mm-hmm.
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  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Uh, which I think is really important because, uh, we've had this conversation on both our channels, me with Shaman Patrick, uh, and then you with, uh, some of your clients that you were just interviewing for, entrepreneur Expat that you helped them with their, uh, residency here in Mexico.
• 7:03
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And one of the things that has come up over and over and over again is that couples, once they're together, we'll talk about dating in a little while, but once you're together and you're married and you're like lifeing together, uh, you really need to learn how to collaborate.
• 7:18
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: In that way.
• 7:19
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And sometimes it takes a little while to figure out, so do you have any tips for the married couples who are watching this?
• 7:25
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And you're like, wait a minute.
• 7:26
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: We're just constantly fighting all the time.
• 7:29
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Like, we run businesses together, or I can't get my husband to be ambitious, or we can't get on the same page.
• 7:35
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: That's, that's the big one.
• 7:37
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Do you have any, any tips, uh, in that regard for the women and, and also the men?
• 7:41
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah, we do have some men who watch.
• 7:43
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I think a lot of it is, is understanding what it is that you're, that you're doing, what it is that you're working on that's bigger than you.
• 7:50
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Uh, I'll, I'll pull from a second.
• 7:52
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I'll pull in a second from more of a spiritual angle on this, but just practically speaking, and this is why the divorce rate is so much lower with, with couples that are running businesses together, for example, compared to like everybody else, or maybe the general population, because they're working towards a common goal.
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  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: So if you're running a business with your spouse, like you're already ahead of most people in terms of the likelihood of that marriage working out.
• 8:17
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: But in terms of the, the collaboration when you are working on projects together, I think it's about just understanding the, the bigger picture.
• 8:23
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: That's number one.
• 8:24
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Like understanding what your larger goals are that are pulling you towards maybe putting aside some of your differences or putting aside some of your feelings.
• 8:31
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I know with us, I mean, it's not perfect.
• 8:33
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Like sometimes we step on each other's toes.
• 8:35
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Uh, sometimes that might say something where I'm like, Hey, we should, you know, we should change the way that we're doing this thing in business, but you might take it a little bit more critically and we've, we've both been getting better at that or vice versa.
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  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Right.
• 8:46
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: That is something of the feminine, that is one of our shadow sides is that we'll take stuff is criticism.
• 8:51
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And then one of the shadow sides of men that they need to learn about women is how do we express in a way where, where they don't take it critically.
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  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
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  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Where the woman's not gonna feel criticized.
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  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 8:59
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: It's that's true.
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  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 9:00
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: That, that, that's something I'm working on too.
• 9:02
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 9:02
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: So that is one of the, one of the things we talk a lot about on this channel.
• 9:05
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: We haven't really done the reverse, but we've talked a lot about how women can speak to men, uh, to inspire them and get the message across.
• 9:12
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Uh, but we haven't done much of the reverse yet.
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  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 9:14
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Because men also need to learn.
• 9:16
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Uh, how women take in information and, and the psychology of women and, and how all that works.
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  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah, and I, I think we should definitely go into that.
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  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: One thing I'll just finish with on, on that initial topic though, is that from a, if you are, if you are spiritual, and you know, we're not religious, but we, we study spirituality and energy and shamanism and, uh, plant medicine and homeopathy and so many other things, and there's always this through line that the way, I mean, even if you just take it from a, like a purely pragmatic standpoint, if you are connected with something and they have this in the 12 step programs and everything else as well, if you are connected with something that's greater than yourself, then you're a lot more likely to actually achieve your goals and to succeed.
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  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Right?
• 10:02
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And do it in a way where you're not burning yourself out.
• 10:05
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: So from a spiritual standpoint.
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  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: You take God or universe as this sort of, not just motivation, but something that you're allowing to flow through you as you're creating.
• 10:16
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And also you realize that it's not just about you.
• 10:20
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Like, what are you actually here to do?
• 10:21
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: What's really your purpose on this planet?
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  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Because it's really easy to get caught up in the day to day of, oh, like I gotta do four sales calls today and I don't know, I don't know where my next client's gonna come from.
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  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Or managing a household or managing the kids or, or managing the house or, or any of that.
• 10:40
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Like, you're stressed about work, you're stressed about finances, you're stressed about clients, or a project's not going the right way or what, whatever.
• 10:47
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And it's, it's easy to take that out on yourself and then of course on, on your spouse as well.
• 10:52
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: But when you have something greater and you're like, this is all part of a much bigger plan, then it, it becomes much less important.
• 11:01
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: You attribute a lot less importance to.
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  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Those little things on the human level that don't seem to be going well.
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  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And you might even laugh at them at some point and say, wow, that's really silly.
• 11:10
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Or laugh either the, the thing or the situation or better laugh at yourself.
• 11:14
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: It's good to, to just be able to laugh at yourself and not take yourself seriously.
• 11:18
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: But when you realize that there's something much bigger out there than just you, or even then just your relationship, that's why your, your mom said this rightly so.
• 11:26
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: It's like you put God first and then your relationship, right.
• 11:31
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: But God or universe or whatever it is that that comes first and then the human aspect of how you relate, and then the business or the friends or, or, or anything else, the kids, right?
• 11:40
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: You know, all that stuff.
• 11:41
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And a lot of couples that I've seen as well, when they're, when they have a family, when they have kids, they make the mistake of saying, okay, my kids are number one.
• 11:48
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I have to put them before everything else.
• 11:49
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: It's like, no, you need to put yourself first and then your kids, because it's like the oxygen masks on the airplane.
• 11:57
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: You have to put yours on first.
• 11:59
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: You have to make sure that you are actually okay first, because if you don't.
• 12:02
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: How on earth are you gonna be responsible in making sure that other people are okay?
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  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 12:07
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And there's this interesting thing that happens that we now know a lot of times when couples only put their, their kids first, um, and they've made their whole life, their kids, then what happens?
• 12:17
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: The kids grow up, they go to college, they leave the house.
• 12:20
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Uh, maybe not as quickly in some of the countries that we hang out in.
• 12:23
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Mm-hmm.
• 12:23
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: But at least in the western world, they leave the house at a pretty young age.
• 12:26
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And then you, like a lot of, uh, couples are finding themselves not even knowing what to talk about.
• 12:32
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Mm-hmm.
• 12:33
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: When their kids are adults and their marriage just falls apart and the marriage falls apart because they made their whole marriage, their kids, and now their kids are not in the house.
• 12:39
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And that goes back to like why maybe running a business or at least having projects with your spouse is so important is because you wanna have something in common.
• 12:49
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: If you only get into relationship for good sex and for the high, the chemicals.
• 12:55
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 12:55
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: The romance, the brain chemicals that come from that.
• 12:57
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Your relationship isn't gonna last very long, or it's gonna be very tumultuous.
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  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And I would say, because I know there's a lot of single women and even some single men watching this, the way that you are able to get into a relationship and later, even a marriage where you have things in common, is you find things that you have in common in the first place is you're dating.
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  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And that's the filter.
• 13:17
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: It's not the, you know, the physical attributes necessarily.
• 13:22
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: It's not, you know, am I feeling emotionally charged around this person all the time?
• 13:29
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: It's, which by the way, also, actually a lot of that comes from a place of toxicity, not from a place of genuine, like healthy, I guess love, right?
• 13:40
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 13:40
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: It comes from a toxic placement.
• 13:42
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: All you're feeling is that that emotion, uh, that energy, that charge, that the ups and the downs, that fire exactly, that, that comes from a, comes from a very toxic place.
• 13:51
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And it tends to come from a place where you're, you're, uh, attachment styles are like.
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  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Opposites.
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  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Right?
• 13:58
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: That's not healthy.
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  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Or trauma, right.
• 14:00
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Or trauma, exactly.
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  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: But trauma usually causes those issues with attachment styles, but that's how we're taught to love.
• 14:05
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Instead of that, why don't you actually go and join a club doing something you like to do?
• 14:11
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Um, in my case, maybe my hobbies are very, very techy, so perhaps I don't have this, you know, if we weren't, weren't married, like if I, if I was out there and single again, maybe I wouldn't have as much of a, of a dating pool if I went just around those.
• 14:24
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Like, I like servers, I like technology, uh, I like, you know, things like that.
• 14:29
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: But, you know, hey, get into something that maybe it some point was really interesting to you, even if it's not like your favorite thing in the world.
• 14:35
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: But I enjoy, let's say, okay, you like gardening, uh, you like animals, you know, you can go and volunteer at an animal shelter, things like that where you can find somebody that's got those common interests, or at the very least, the common value.
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  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 14:52
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Um, there's so many places I wanna go with this.
• 14:54
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: 'cause you mentioned such, such good stuff here.
• 14:57
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: So in the high value Women transformation program, uh, I teach them in one of the modules how to expand their social circles so they can find high value men.
• 15:06
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And that's literally one of the things that I said.
• 15:08
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I'm like, what are your hobbies, girl?
• 15:10
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Like, what are you doing?
• 15:12
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Because some people literally just like, go to work, go home, repeat, go to work, go home, repeat.
• 15:17
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: There's, there's no life.
• 15:18
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Um, outside of that, and I know that if you're watching this from the United States or Canada or parts of Western Europe or Australia right now, things are just a little bit intense, uh, where people, and we can get into what's going on there as well because you have this really interesting, uh, global perspective that I'd like to talk about, um, as well because we are getting people from all over the world commenting.
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  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: But that's one of the things I talk about.
• 15:40
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I'm like, what do you like to do?
• 15:41
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: So for example, in our case, uh, we met through a business group.
• 15:45
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Through a networking group.
• 15:46
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Mm-hmm.
• 15:46
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Uh, a networking group for six and seven figure entrepreneurs.
• 15:49
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: We both liked business.
• 15:50
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Uh, you had to pay to get into that group.
• 15:52
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 15:53
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Which meant that there was a higher caliber of person.
• 15:56
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I don't know any other way of saying it.
• 15:58
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: That's, that's, that's what I would say.
• 15:59
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 15:59
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I mean, there's a, there's a higher barrier to entry.
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  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 16:03
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: So when you just do stuff that's free or that, you know, might apply to anyone, there's no, there's no filter.
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  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
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  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Right.
• 16:12
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: But when you're, you're doing something, and it's the same thing with business.
• 16:14
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: When you're networking, why would you go to a free Chamber of Commerce event?
• 16:17
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Figure out how you can, even if you don't necessarily pay, but it figure out how you can get invited to a party.
• 16:23
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: That's really difficult to get into for business people.
• 16:25
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: A party or an event, or like, you went to Grant Cardone's things on a yacht.
• 16:28
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I think some you got invited to, or some you maybe bought a program and you were able to get to that and you got to people that were like, literally some of the people on that boat were rebuilding Haiti.
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  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 16:38
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Right.
• 16:38
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Like Yeah.
• 16:39
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Some of the, the women connect there, some of them were selling.
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  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah, exactly.
• 16:41
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: So, so they're.
• 16:43
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: You wanna create filters because otherwise you're gonna spend your entire life using your own filtering system instead of just borrowing other people's filters.
• 16:51
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Well, to your point, I also mentioned that in the program where I'm like, Hey, you know, if you wanna go find like high value ambitious men who wanna provide, I mean, when I went to Grant Cardone's events and say what you want about the guy, I know that, you know, it's a love or hate relationship with Grant Cardone, he's a very polarizing figure.
• 17:07
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Mm-hmm.
• 17:07
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: But I was in Miami, I knew a lot of people who worked for him.
• 17:10
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Uh, I went to a lot of those events and I remember having a, an employee back in my previous business before you came into the picture.
• 17:17
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And we would go to those events and that's where I started learning a lot about, um, kind of like healthy masculine behavior, was actually going to those events full of high performing businessmen.
• 17:29
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Because when I would ask them like, Hey, you know, and I would come from a place of curiosity.
• 17:34
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Which I encourage all women to do.
• 17:35
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Like when you're approaching men come from a and this whole like dating thing and polarity and come, um, approach it from a place of curiosity.
• 17:43
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Mm-hmm.
• 17:43
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I spent six or seven years before I met you in those circles, just asking the men like, Hey, why do you do what you do by the way?
• 17:51
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And do you know what they would tell me why I'm doing this for my wife and kids, or I'm doing this for my future wife and kids.
• 18:02
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And I remember having an employee and she went to the event, she goes, why are all the men here so hot?
• 19:08
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Like, how do I get one of these?
• 19:10
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Right?
• 19:10
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Because there was this energy, oh hi Mia.
• 19:13
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: There was this energy of these men want to provide, these men are ambitious, these men are fighting for something.
• 19:20
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And then do you wanna know what else those men would tell me?
• 19:22
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And I know you used to have a, an issue with this in your past relationships.
• 19:26
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: They said one of their biggest problems in relationships was the fact that they were either married to or dating a woman.
• 19:33
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Who would complain about how ambitious they are and how hard they work.
• 19:39
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: The irony there, it's like you girl, you literally, you literally are, are looking for a man who's ambitious, who's hardworking, who's gonna take care of you, who's gonna be able to help you raise a family.
• 19:51
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: But then you complain when he does the activities that make that happen make it make sense.
• 19:57
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: They were so confused because they'd be like, why is she so upset?
• 20:00
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I'm building this for her.
• 20:02
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 20:03
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: You know, I'm doing it for her.
• 20:05
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I'm doing it for the kids.
• 20:07
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And I did have a problem with that.
• 20:08
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 20:09
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: With past relationships where they wouldn't understand why I was always traveling, why I was going to events, why I was going to conferences, why I was doing personal development.
• 20:16
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: They weren't about it.
• 20:18
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And then on top of that, like, oh, you need to spend more time with me and I need your attention and all this stuff.
• 20:25
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And you're never really like that.
• 20:27
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Well, because I understand what it takes to run businesses and Yeah.
• 20:31
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Um.
• 20:32
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I also understand that part of the masculine and especially high achieving, high performing men, yeah, ladies, they work a lot, but they're doing it for you.
• 20:42
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I'm working 10, 12 hours a day sometimes.
• 20:44
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I mean, you've seen me the last week, for example.
• 20:47
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: We, we were, for any of any of you guys who are in tech, we got approved for names IPV four and six namespace.
• 20:55
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: So we've got our own basically, uh, real estate on the internet essentially, but at a very high level.
• 21:02
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And so I was learning how to do these BGP protocols and configure our routers and set up stuff so that when we go to Miami.
• 21:09
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: In a couple months here and we're about to put our servers in a data center there.
• 21:12
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: 'cause we're, we, we have a lot of people going to our sites.
• 21:15
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: We have a lot of hosting clients, whatever.
• 21:17
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: How long was I obsessed with that for?
• 21:19
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I think probably three, four days.
• 21:20
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Just nonstop.
• 21:21
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I mean, I basically didn't sleep.
• 21:22
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 21:23
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I was talking to chat GPT at night under the covers.
• 21:25
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 21:26
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And then, and I was asking a questions and trying to figure things out.
• 21:28
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And I was at my computer and I was up till 3:00 AM And then on top of that, you're filming content.
• 21:32
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: You've been on interviews for your channel recently.
• 21:35
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: You were just booking our plane tickets for real estate, uh, not real estate.
• 21:39
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: A research and development trip to Albania.
• 21:41
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: You were figuring all the logistics out.
• 21:43
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Then I got a hell of a deal too.
• 21:44
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: You did, right.
• 21:45
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: You were figuring all that stuff out.
• 21:47
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And that also is a part of the masculine is like this planning and thinking toward the future and figuring out the logistics, uh, and all those kinds of things.
• 21:55
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: A lot of women, and I'd like to hear your perspective on this complaint to me, that they're, it's, it's like opposite Yeah.
• 22:01
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: In their marriages.
• 22:02
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Like they're the ones who have to resolve everything and the guy's not, that's weird.
• 22:07
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Resolving.
• 22:07
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: It's really weird.
• 22:08
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Too much.
• 22:08
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 22:09
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Like, I mean, I, I, I understand where you're coming from because you've mentioned this before, but maybe for the benefit of the audience and also to give me even more context about where you want to go with that.
• 22:18
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Like, what do you mean?
• 22:19
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: What's an example of that?
• 22:21
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Because I, I'm sure a lot of the people watching can relate, although I, I think maybe if you give some specific examples mm-hmm.
• 22:29
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: That'll help me as well.
• 22:30
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah, of course.
• 22:31
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I think a typical example is the woman who is splitting half the bills with a man, which I know you have thoughts on.
• 22:38
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Mm-hmm.
• 22:39
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Um, it's a woman who's doing that.
• 22:41
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: She's working her butt off at a job.
• 22:44
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: She's managing the household, she's managing most of the kids.
• 22:46
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I mean, we saw it.
• 22:48
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: When we did a lot of the, the business consulting stuff and groups that we used to run before, a lot of the stuff that you do now when you were doing business consulting, I mean, we literally saw it.
• 22:58
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: There were women who would show up on the calls and suddenly they would have some sort of like physical sickness or breakout or some autoimmune things start coming up.
• 23:08
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And when we started asking questions, we would come to find out she's paying all the bills, she's managing the kids husband, perhaps was going to school, quit now isn't doing much of anything.
• 23:21
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And then we're like, well, of course your body's freaking out.
• 23:25
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 23:25
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Um, being under all of that amount of stress.
• 23:28
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: So, I mean, that would be an example.
• 23:31
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: So I, I will preface it with this.
• 23:33
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Um, especially in the West right now, in the US and the in, in Canada and Australia and the UK and a lot of countries where like cost of living and things are getting outrageous, which by the way.
• 23:44
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: If you wanna get outta those places, talk to us, because we can, we can help you with that too, um, through our entrepreneur, expat brand.
• 23:52
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: But in places like that, where cost of living is just absolutely out of control, you sometimes need to have two adults in a family working full time to be able to make things work.
• 24:07
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I'm not even gonna say that it, that it's not unreasonable that both people are working.
• 24:11
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: It's, it's very difficult to raise a family right now on one income unless your husband's rich or like very, very successful in business.
• 24:19
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: It's, it's, it's difficult.
• 24:20
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Like, it's not like it was 10 or 20 or 30 years ago.
• 24:24
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Here's the real issue, and this is, I think the, where, where it gets to the core of what's wrong is that from, well men, I'll start with that perspective.
• 24:37
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: It, it doesn't make sense for a man to say.
• 24:43
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: You need to work, but you also need to raise the kids and you need to make sure that the house is clean.
• 24:51
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: 'cause you, you may or may not be paying somebody to do that.
• 24:53
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Even here, I mean, we're both kind of doing our own thing.
• 24:56
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I'm bringing in the majority of the money.
• 24:58
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I'm paying bills, I'm handling all the finances.
• 25:01
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: But you're, you've got a business as well.
• 25:03
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: You love doing what you're doing.
• 25:04
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: You, you're also bringing in some money.
• 25:06
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And I, I wouldn't have it any other way because you, you love to, to do your thing.
• 25:10
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Right.
• 25:10
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I'm glad you brought that up'cause there's a lot of women who feel like that.
• 25:13
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: But I'm not asking you to clean, I'm not asking you to take care of all those things.
• 25:16
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: We don't have kids.
• 25:17
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Like, that's also very different.
• 25:18
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And also, I'm not asking you to work, you are just choosing to work because you love what you're doing and it's more of a vocation for you.
• 25:25
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: The issue is when they're asking their wives to do all that plus more, it's, that's not balanced.
• 25:30
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 25:31
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: You know.
• 25:32
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 25:32
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I'm glad you brought that up actually.
• 25:33
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: 'cause I know, and we'll get into to what the women are saying, but, um, I've noticed that one of the fears that women have when you talk about masculine energy, feminine energy, letting a man be a provider will get more into that.
• 25:45
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Mm-hmm.
• 25:46
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Is that they feel like they're gonna be like, Susie Homemaker back in the kitchen, barefoot and pregnant.
• 25:52
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Right.
• 25:52
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And I'm like, actually no, there's lots of different ways of doing this.
• 25:56
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Uh, so for example, like you said, like you don't ask me to pay bills.
• 26:00
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: You take on all the responsibility of that.
• 26:02
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: You like taking on the responsibility of that, which we'll get to.
• 26:05
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Mm-hmm.
• 26:06
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Because most men do ladies.
• 26:08
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Um, but in addition to that, it's something that I enjoy doing.
• 26:12
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And then at the same time, it's not like, Hey, you have to go, you know, clean the house and cook every meal.
• 26:17
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: We have help that comes Yeah.
• 26:19
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Uh, twice a week, which we can do in Mexico.
• 26:21
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: It doesn't in, it doesn't cost lot of money in the us That would be thousands of dollars a month.
• 26:26
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 26:26
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Which still would be worth it, but.
• 26:29
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Here, it's a lot more accessible.
• 26:30
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Um, but what's the energy behind that?
• 26:33
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Because in my mind, the way that I see it is, you know, from a logical perspective, a part of it is definitely like, Hey, Amanda has skills that can either help me amplify my life and my business.
• 26:45
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Or she has skills where she can go do some creative project that she loves to do, and you've seen it happen where I have an idea and then like in a week it's making money.
• 26:54
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: It's not even about the fact that does it make money or does it not make money?
• 26:58
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: It's the fact that I think number one, that's really important that this, this goes back to a lot of energetic, uh, and this goes back to a lot of energetics, and it's not obvious on the surface, right?
• 27:11
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: But women, because they're intuitive, they're the ones that are actually inspiring their men to greatness.
• 27:18
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: That's one of those things that's like just so undervalued.
• 27:21
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Because men don't understand a lot of the time that having a woman by their side not only increases their value in society.
• 27:27
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: You look at any president except maybe one or two, they were all married.
• 27:31
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah, right.
• 27:33
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Even Trump and Melania, although who knows if there's anything between them anymore, I don't know.
• 27:39
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Or if it's, you know, for show or whatever, but they're all, you know, they're all married.
• 27:45
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: It increases your status in society, but much more importantly, having a woman by her side who's connected to herself, who's intuitive, who's in touch with her feminine nature, actually helps you.
• 27:56
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: She's bringing you ideas.
• 27:57
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: She's a lot of the time connecting you to people.
• 27:59
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: 'cause women are the ones that are really good connectors.
• 28:02
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: She's doing all these things that maybe aren't necessarily like, oh, go out.
• 28:06
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And it's just weird.
• 28:07
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: It's a very low value thing to be like, oh, you, you need to help pay rent.
• 28:10
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: So go out and get a$50,000 job working.
• 28:13
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: It's like, no, you, you're literally are talking to like the queen of your house who's this energetic powerhouse who can inspire you to greatness, who can help you make multiple times more money.
• 28:24
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And you have, by the way, I mean, speak more to that.
• 28:29
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 28:29
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Because I think, uh, number one, I don't think women understand that about themselves is what I've noticed.
• 28:34
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Like they don't understand the power that they have in feminine energy to do that for a man.
• 28:39
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Um, or there's a distortion that happens that they get with a man who has, uh, shown no signs of being able to be successful.
• 28:46
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And it's like.
• 28:47
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Uh, has a carrot stick of a dream, and then she's like, bankrolling the whole thing.
• 28:52
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Uh, that's a distortion, right?
• 28:54
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Um, but it's either like women don't understand that or they get into the distortion version of it, which is let me bankroll this man and support him while he tries to chase a rap career or something.
• 29:07
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Um, or goes back to school or, that usually doesn't end well.
• 29:10
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Mm-hmm.
• 29:10
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Uh, for the women, uh, that's not what we're talking about.
• 29:14
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Or I find that a lot of men don't understand that about women and about themselves.
• 29:20
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: So can you kind of give, like, for example, give concrete examples on how I haven't like, told you what to do necessarily.
• 29:28
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Like you need to go make more money, which is like what most women will do with their men, which by the way does not work.
• 29:34
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Hi Daisy.
• 29:35
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Uh, but instead inspired you and then that's turned into more success and more money for you because I think both parties.
• 29:44
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Don't understand the power of a symbiotic relationship.
• 29:47
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And what's interesting is that most religions and spiritual traditions talk about this.
• 29:51
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 29:51
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: It's, it's exactly right.
• 29:52
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: It's the yin and the yang.
• 29:54
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 29:54
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: You can't have yin without yang.
• 29:56
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: You can't have dark without light.
• 29:58
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: There's different qualities that make men, men that make women, women, there are different things that each do in a relationship that are their strengths.
• 30:09
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: So why would you want to play to your weaknesses?
• 30:12
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Mm-hmm.
• 30:13
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Because I think that's what women are doing in a big sense when they're like, you know, I wanna, it's not that you shouldn't have your career, that's not the point.
• 30:22
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: The point is you are better at a lot of those things that are in a relationship with people might consider the soft skills or the, or.
• 30:33
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: The intangible.
• 30:33
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: The intangible.
• 30:34
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Exactly.
• 30:34
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 30:34
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: That's what it is.
• 30:35
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: It's, it's that intangible, but it benefits a man.
• 30:40
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: You bring the inspiration to the table, you bring a lot of the, a lot of the, the connection or the connectedness.
• 30:46
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: You've helped me get back in touch with my spirituality, which has helped a ton.
• 30:50
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: You do magic and witchy stuff.
• 30:52
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Like we have a, what is that?
• 30:53
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Some kind of incense going, I don't even know what the hell the, the flavors or the sense or whatever are or what they do, but I know they work.
• 31:00
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: 'cause every time you light a candle, we end up landing a$15,000 deal.
• 31:03
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: It sounds ridiculous, but like, I'm a numbers guy.
• 31:08
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I'm a data guy.
• 31:10
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Even the astrology and things like that.
• 31:12
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: You've sold me on a lot of that.
• 31:14
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Mm-hmm.
• 31:15
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Because every time we travel or we try to do something complicated with business or with technology during mercury retrograde, it's always gone poorly.
• 31:24
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I didn't, but I wouldn't have even know You have.
• 31:26
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 31:27
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: We, we decided to push back our, our trip to Albania.
• 31:30
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Because we were looking at the dates and we're like, nah, let's, let's do it a couple weeks later instead, because it's always a disaster when we travel during, it's a disaster.
• 31:39
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Even FedEx has it marked on the calendar, right?
• 31:41
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 31:42
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I knew some FedEx employees who had it marked on the calendar.
• 31:45
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 31:45
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: So you, you bring all that intangible that, but it's wisdom and it's not just wisdom necessarily from what you learn.
• 31:52
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: We're gonna get a little woo woo here, but what you learn in this life and what you have just mentally access to what you've studied, it's also the intangible in terms of the energy that you channel in the relationship that even on paper, and again, I'm a, I'm an analytical guy.
• 32:07
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I used to be a software engineer.
• 32:09
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I'm, I'm very into the data and the numbers and the structure and the systems, and it's proven very, very effective.
• 32:16
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: All the, all the stuff that you've done, which I didn't even know was something that was like part of a woman's role in a relationship because I don't think I've had that level of that type of contribution before.
• 32:28
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: But it's worth a lot more to me for you to be channeling the energy and, and the intention and even resting because when you rest, you get some of your best ideas.
• 32:40
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 32:41
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And they, they might bring in money through your channel.
• 32:43
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: They might help me bring in money through my channel.
• 32:45
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: They, they might just help me get aligned with things and make more money because of that, but they're super valuable.
• 32:51
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 32:52
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Why do you think most people don't see that?
• 32:55
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Like, for example, and let's, let's get into like, you helped me with a video on this channel about the four types of men, women should not date.
• 33:02
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Mm-hmm.
• 33:03
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: You're the one who helped me with that channel.
• 33:05
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Uh, because you, you have a history where, and I say this as a, as a message of hope.
• 33:11
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: For the women.
• 33:12
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Right.
• 33:12
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: You have a history where you did not always think this way.
• 33:15
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Mm-hmm.
• 33:15
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Like by the time you met me, you kind of were already thinking this way, like you'd already come to a lot of conclusions and done a lot of healing and inner work around masculinity and stuff like that.
• 33:25
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: But you did not always think this way.
• 33:28
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: So why do you think it's difficult for, um, men these days, particularly in the western world, to comprehend this?
• 33:36
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Because, uh, you're Ukrainian on one side.
• 33:39
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Mm-hmm.
• 33:39
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: You're eastern European.
• 33:41
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I, and I'm Latin American, you know, and in those parts of the world, although they're not perfect, there's no perfect country.
• 33:47
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: There's no perfect part of the world.
• 33:49
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: It doesn't exist.
• 33:50
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: We can tell you from having lived in multiple countries and studying multiple countries because of, because of your work on entrepreneur expat.
• 33:58
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: But it's like a totally different way of viewing relationships and family and, and spirituality.
• 34:06
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: All that stuff.
• 34:06
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Then perhaps what we're seeing now in the United States, in Canada, in Australia, in Western Europe, which by the way is where we get the most comments from on this channel.
• 34:18
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And then interestingly enough, on your channel, you hear from men from those countries who are saying they can't find feminine women.
• 34:25
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 34:25
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: So we have the women on my channel on those countries saying they can't find masculine men.
• 34:30
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And the men on your channel from those countries saying they can't find feminine women, help me move to another country.
• 34:36
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: So like, what do you think is going on here?
• 34:38
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Why is everybody so confused?
• 34:40
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I think there's a lot of parts to it, but number one is that the society in the west right now is kind of collapsing, and that's having a really, really big toll on dating because the things that women want, for instance.
• 35:02
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Are very different than the things that they're told by society that they want or that they should want.
• 35:09
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And that in and of itself is a recipe for disaster.
• 35:13
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And then you take something like the red pill movement and pick up and I was involved in that for a while.
• 35:18
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: We'll get into that.
• 35:19
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: We'll get into it.
• 35:19
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: But you take things like that, there are response to things like the later waves of feminism telling women that they want something that biologically, psychologically, like every, everything else, even societally, are not what they really want and are not even in their best interest.
• 35:37
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: That's the part'cause it too far, that's the part that's the part that's crazy is whatever wave of feminism we're on right now, and this is what I tell women or it's not actually in the interest of women.
• 35:46
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: No, it's not really feminism.
• 35:47
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And most women go into dating situations these days negotiating against themselves.
• 35:53
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 35:53
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I'm like, imagine starting a relationship where you start splitting the bills 50 50 from be from the beginning.
• 35:59
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And then you're, you end up marrying the guy and now you're exhausted.
• 36:03
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Well girl, you set the precedent.
• 36:05
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 36:05
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: You negotiated against yourself in the name of equality.
• 36:08
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 36:08
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: It's crazy.
• 36:08
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And then on the flip side with men, what you have is like the red pill stuff being, uh, they call it, uh, when, when I studied a lot of dating and psychology concepts, they call it this, this thing, the polar opposing insecurity compensation, the POIC.
• 36:24
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Right.
• 36:25
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: That's when you have a pendulum.
• 36:26
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And the pendulum has swung so far to the other side from their reaction to feminism and their reaction to a lot of how Me Too and things like that have just gone too far, especially in the west.
• 36:39
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And then that causes them to want to use women for sex, to want to, to not have to have commitment, to want to just get whatever it is that they want.
• 36:48
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Short term.
• 36:50
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: It's damaging for everyone.
• 36:51
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: It's damaging.
• 36:51
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 36:51
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And it's because long term it's almost like not worth it.
• 36:55
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: To these men anymore to really pursue women and try to have a relationship because what's the benefit?
• 37:02
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: You know, they're, they're, they're being accused of things that they didn't do.
• 37:05
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: In a lot of cases, the men are, uh, they're also being seen.
• 37:11
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I mean, even just now it's like this, maybe we'll put this ad up that I saw, if I can find it, but there was like an ad on the, the subway in London that said that, that looking at somebody with a sexual intent is now harassment and it's illegal and that you need to report it to the police.
• 37:26
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I'm like, okay, so we're not allowed to approach a woman on the street or in a coffee shop because that's assault somehow now.
• 37:35
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Mm-hmm.
• 37:35
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: We're not allowed to look at somebody on public transport, which, by the way, the west has gone too far in terms of all that and free speech and so many other areas.
• 37:44
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: But I won't go down that rabbit hole.
• 37:45
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: You can follow Entrepreneur X stack for that.
• 37:47
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah, we, we talked about that a little bit there.
• 37:49
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 37:49
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Uh, but the issue is that.
• 37:51
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: It's, it's going so far where, where like men are afraid to, to make any move and to, to have any semblance of masculinity.
• 38:01
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Of masculinity that they show because they're gonna be reprimanded or worse locked away.
• 38:09
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 38:09
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I mean, doesn't, and that's one of the reasons that you're seeing these women complain about having men that don't approach them anymore.
• 38:15
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 38:15
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: That aren't masculine.
• 38:16
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: What do you think is different being Eastern Europe about eastern European culture in this regard?
• 38:21
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Because for example, um, I saw an Eastern European woman talk about this the other day.
• 38:27
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Mm-hmm.
• 38:27
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And she was saying, you know, in Eastern Europe, and I showed you the viral TikTok about, uh, asking the American men versus the Russian men about whether or not they go 50 50.
• 38:38
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Relationships and you started, oh God, there's another one where it's like, where she says, uh, oh, I, I, I can't pay my half of the rent anymore.
• 38:46
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I can't pay my mortgage.
• 38:47
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Right.
• 38:48
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: But I showed you these tiktoks, um, and the one with the American men versus the Russian men.
• 38:53
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: You chuckled being Ukrainian and also have Russian ancestry.
• 38:58
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Um, so what is different between the east eastern European mindset, for example, and the western mindset where they seem to be having a relationship crisis?
• 39:08
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: 'cause I will tell you one thing I've noticed from being married to an Eastern European and learning more about the culture and things like that, number one, not that different than Latin America in terms of like family.
• 39:20
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Mm-hmm.
• 39:21
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Really, really important structure.
• 39:23
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Uh, and they take that very seriously in Eastern European cultures.
• 39:27
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Uh, but number two, I noticed that the women have a respect for masculinity.
• 39:32
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And then the masculinity intern respect exactly the feminine.
• 39:37
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: In Eastern Europe, you do not have this pussy behavior of men saying, uh, women pay 50 50 and she raise kids and she clean house and what are you talking about?
• 39:47
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Men provide men go to work, men go kill bear.
• 39:50
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: If men need to kill bear, that is what we are doing.
• 39:53
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: That is what we are here to do.
• 39:54
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And the women appreciate.
• 39:56
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 39:56
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 39:57
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Whereas when you asked the American guys on that TikTok, if they wanted, if the women should go 50 50, I mean, it sounded like they were lacking testosterone because they were like, they are, they, they're, there's a lot of very, very feminized men.
• 40:10
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And a lot of what I saw in that red pill community, unfortunately, was very feminized men that also came from a lot of trauma like I did in, in my childhood and lack of a strong father figure.
• 40:21
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And, and they're, they're both retaliating against what society is doing and what they feel that women are doing to them.
• 40:27
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And also they're, they're, they're scared of saying the wrong thing.
• 40:31
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: They're scared.
• 40:31
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 40:31
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: They're like, whatever She.
• 40:33
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah, exactly.
• 40:33
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Which to women is well actually unsexy.
• 40:35
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And, and, and you either like with the red pill or with other things, you either go one way, which is these men become very, very feminized and now women don't find'em attractive.
• 40:45
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: But yet somehow the women end up getting in relationships where they're paying all their bills because they don't value the themselves enough.
• 40:51
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: The women don't.
• 40:52
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And then on the flip side, you have those men that are basically switching from a very anxious attachment style, right?
• 41:01
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Where, where maybe they didn't get, get enough love, they didn't get enough attention, especially from their mother.
• 41:06
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And so they're, they're like anxious and they're the ones who are like constantly, you know, texting a girl or like try, you know, asking her after the date, like how, basically how it went and like, uh, just all these like very weird supplicative behaviors.
• 41:19
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: So they go from that extreme or they're not even getting dates at all and they don't know how to talk to a girl.
• 41:23
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I mean, I was like that in high school.
• 41:25
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I didn't really date, uh, women at all until like after high school.
• 41:30
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: So they go from that to then being these like pickup artist types that just want to have this massive harem and keep everybody sort of on a, on a string.
• 41:42
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: But they're not really setting proper boundaries.
• 41:46
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: They're using manipulation a lot of the time, emotionally, and they're not typically having healthy relationships.
• 41:53
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And I'm not gonna say that, like not having a monogamous relationship is bad.
• 41:59
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Right.
• 41:59
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Do whatever you want.
• 42:00
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I'm not criticizing that or saying anything about that, although I don't know if it's as effective.
• 42:05
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: It's definitely not effective for, uh, you know, family and things like that.
• 42:10
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: But the way that people are going about it is unhealthy.
• 42:14
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: It's toxic.
• 42:15
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: It's manipulative.
• 42:16
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And so you're going from someone who was, it's essentially like going from someone who is a victim, or at least internally in your own mind, you were a victim all the way to now.
• 42:25
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: You are the oppressor, the predator, you're the oppressor, you're the predator, which we can argue.
• 42:29
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: It happens a lot in society and in the world.
• 42:33
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Right?
• 42:33
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 42:34
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: What are some of the ways that, uh, unhealthy men manipulate women?
• 42:40
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Because what I find from the women is there's a lot of confusion as to what healthy behavior is versus what it's not.
• 42:46
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And interesting point.
• 42:48
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: You know, a lot of the things in the western world that are demonized in men end up being like healthy, normal, psychologically healthy male behaviors.
• 42:58
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Like we saw a thing about mansplaining the other day from Adam Lane Smith, and I was like, I have never felt mansplained in my life, but I would see a lot of other women complaining about it.
• 43:08
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: But it's because I understood that men like to solve problems and fix things and mentor the people around them.
• 43:13
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: It's one of the ways in which they give, most women don't know that, so they think every man is mans, um, to them.
• 43:19
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 43:19
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I mean, so, so men definitely do have work in a lot of areas, as, as I did, certainly in, in communication and saying things in a way where.
• 43:28
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: You're talking a woman's language, that's something that sometimes isn't easy to learn because you have a, a worldview and an understanding that may be very, very different and that's okay.
• 43:39
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: But men can practice that shirt.
• 43:40
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: So a, a component of that definitely is that they need to have a better understanding and just have female friends, because when they have female friends, they're gonna get more of that context and understand how women think and what their needs and desires and everything else are.
• 43:54
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And vice versa.
• 43:55
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And vice versa.
• 43:55
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: A hundred percent.
• 43:56
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Which is part of what you do in your courses and everything else, which is amazing because women need this and men need this, and maybe there's, there's more speaking to men that I get to do.
• 44:06
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: In fact, we're working on another brand there, so we'll probably put the details down below this video, uh, when we do create some of those content pieces.
• 44:14
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: But back to your question of, you know, what, what is it that that kind of does that it's, it's the fact that, so yes, there's that communication discrepancy.
• 44:24
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: But more of it, again, is what it's society saying, Hey, this thing is bad.
• 44:27
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: You shouldn't let a man, you know, walk you through this thing step by step because oh, open your door, pay your bills.
• 44:33
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Well, that too, that's, that's a whole other issue.
• 44:35
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: But even on the concept of what you were saying, mansplaining at you, it's, it, it's like, do do you want an answer or not?
• 44:42
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 44:43
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Can some men be condescending?
• 44:44
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Can some men purposefully be controlling?
• 44:46
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yes.
• 44:47
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: But that's not most men.
• 44:48
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 44:49
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Most men are just genuinely trying to be helpful.
• 44:52
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: So it's giving them the benefit of the doubt.
• 44:54
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And I think that a lot of the stuff that's coming down from, from society and from what other people are telling you, number one, it's not coming from healthy people.
• 45:01
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Number two, it's probably coming from people that have a vested interest in manipulating you.
• 45:05
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Correct.
• 45:06
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: So let's get into the ones that have a vested interest in manipulating you.
• 45:10
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Um, because when you were very young, in your time it was called pickup.
• 45:14
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Mm-hmm.
• 45:14
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Now it's called red pill.
• 45:16
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: You got into that red pill space and you've seen the comments.
• 45:19
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Well, they'll start arguing with me in the comment section.
• 45:21
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: You're like, that's crazy.
• 45:22
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: What kind of a grown man argues with a woman?
• 45:24
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Like, you're just so confused at the comments that I get from the red pill guy.
• 45:28
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I won't enter an elevator with a female and stuff like that.
• 45:32
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Um, they've gone way off the deep end, the ones that are commenting that.
• 45:36
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: But to your point, there are men out here who will manipulate women and I'll tell you the types of women they manipulate and then you can tell them how they do the manipulation.
• 45:47
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 45:47
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: So the type of woman, number one that gets manipulated is what I call, um, the, um, wounded maiden.
• 45:54
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Right?
• 45:54
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: So she's like the victim.
• 45:56
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: She's like the one we see in the no.
• 45:57
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Right, right.
• 46:00
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: This just very toxic woman who makes everyone's life a living hell and a disaster.
• 46:04
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And these red pill guys think every woman is that.
• 46:06
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And that's where a lot of the, the philosophy comes from because maybe their mom, uh, was like that.
• 46:11
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 46:11
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And they saw their mom destroy their dad.
• 46:13
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: So I understand.
• 46:15
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Been there in order to have compassion, I can relate.
• 46:18
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: The other type of woman that they look for is, and that woman's also very insecure.
• 46:23
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Mm-hmm.
• 46:24
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: So they will target that woman.
• 46:25
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: The other type of woman that they target, I've noticed is the next level up, um, which is the awakening warrior is what I call her, which she is starting to take a lot of responsibility for her own life.
• 46:37
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: She's no longer in that victim consciousness, but she goes way into hyper independence.
• 46:42
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Mm-hmm.
• 46:42
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And she's still in this kind of like in-between stage where she perhaps hasn't, she's learning how to take care of herself, which is great.
• 46:49
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Uh, because it won't put her in desperate situations like the victim, but she usually gets targeted as well because she still has insecurities.
• 46:57
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And I noticed that she'll get targeted by men like the other TikTok that I showed you about, a homeless man teaching other homeless men on TikTok, how to find a woman that'll pay all their bills for six months.
• 47:08
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And they're usually like working in hr.
• 47:11
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: They're usually six figure earners.
• 47:13
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Like they usually have own a house, like they're usually doing well for themselves and they'll target these women.
• 47:18
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I remember my mom telling me that one time, um, where she's like, yeah, I'm not, I mean, she obviously changed this, but she goes, I, I wouldn't buy you a house because men will target you.
• 47:30
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Like bad men will.
• 47:31
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: 'cause you have something.
• 47:31
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 47:31
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Because you have something.
• 47:33
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: So those are the types of women I've noticed, right?
• 47:36
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: It's like those first two stages of what I call the divine feminine stages.
• 47:40
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: They will get targeted.
• 47:41
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: By unhealthy men.
• 47:43
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I want to hear from you since you were on the inside.
• 47:46
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Mm-hmm.
• 47:46
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Right?
• 47:47
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Uh, again, you got over this way before you met me, and then we can talk about how men can get out of it.
• 47:51
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: 'cause I do feel like there's more men waking up from the red pill stuff.
• 47:55
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Um, how do these men manipulate women for, am I right in my, in my assessment of who they target?
• 48:03
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: No, I mean, I think it's all of them.
• 48:05
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Okay.
• 48:05
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I think it's, I think it's really all of them at different levels, but for most of what I've seen in that pickup space, and some of it isn't even like conscious manipulation.
• 48:14
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: You just sort of think that, hey, I'm, it depends on the level, right?
• 48:18
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: When I started to get to a level of uncomfortability where I'm like, oh, maybe I'm actually not being authentic.
• 48:23
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Maybe I am being manipulative here.
• 48:28
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: That's when I would usually like not do that because I had a little bit better defined moral compass and I wasn't perfect and I am sure I hurt a lot of people's feelings.
• 48:37
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Through the process because whether or not you're doing something consciously that doesn't actually change how it, it works.
• 48:44
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And I think that a lot of these men, I'm not gonna say that they're innocent, but they're coming at it from a place of not necessarily trying to screw women over or, or purposefully control or manipulate them.
• 48:56
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: They're, they're coming at it almost from a place of, this is just how things are, so this is how you have to play the game.
• 49:05
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: So I don't think it's necessarily that they're even a hundred percent of the time being bad or evil, but there is a small percentage, and maybe that's 5%, maybe that's 10%.
• 49:18
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And this isn't necessarily even just people in the pickup space.
• 49:20
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: This is also people in the kind of adjacent space where they just like don't care at all for anyone's feeling that that's, that's like the sort of sociopath level where they don't care at all, at all for anybody's feelings.
• 49:32
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: They only care about their feelings.
• 49:34
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: They don't care how many people they have to hurt.
• 49:36
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: In order to get what they want, whether that's love, whether that's a relationship, whether that's sex, whether that's, uh, having a harem of women.
• 49:43
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: But I, I will say though, that it's, that's a very small percentage, but that tends to be what the leaders of a lot of those groups are either promoting or the place that they're coming from, or they're coming from a place where they're so kind of delusion by the entire game or by themselves or by their own ego that they can't actually see that they're being manipulative or cruel or whatever it is.
• 50:08
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: That's even, even, again, in, in the leadership and the people that are, that are speaking most in those spaces, I think most of them are not trying to lead men astray from a, from that standpoint where they're just trying to hurt them or hurt the women, or both.
• 50:23
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: But there's a couple percent for sure where it's, you know, no, we don't care what, what the women's Experie is at all.
• 50:31
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Mm-hmm.
• 50:32
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And they're actually manipulating men to get them to give them money and to, to boost them up and build their own egos.
• 50:41
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Mm-hmm.
• 50:42
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Power, respect, whatever it is.
• 50:45
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: They're more in it because they want to either build a business or like put themselves almost to the point of like being a demigod.
• 50:53
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Mm-hmm.
• 50:53
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: That's a lot of what I've seen.
• 50:54
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: So it's not, I mean, guys, it's really not like, Hey, these guys, all of them are just in it because they just wanna, they're, they're just, I think misinformed.
• 51:03
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: They're coming from their Don't them though.
• 51:04
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: No, no.
• 51:04
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: They're not ready to date.
• 51:05
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Don't date them.
• 51:06
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 51:06
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: But it realize that it's not just because they really want to cause damage to you, it's because they're probably hurt themselves.
• 51:13
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: They're dealing with their own insecurities and they didn't have a strong father figure to show them how to talk to women.
• 51:19
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And they think that the only way, for example, that they can get a, a woman to have a relationship with them is that they have sex quickly with that woman.
• 51:26
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Otherwise they're gonna be seen as a loser, which is so damaging.
• 51:30
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Which, yeah.
• 51:31
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: But that's like one of one a very big tenant is what they say is you have to, you know, sleep with this woman quickly, otherwise you're, you're, you know, they're never gonna respect you.
• 51:40
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: That's literally like one of the most common things you'll hear there.
• 51:43
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: It's interesting.
• 51:44
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I'll do a video on this, on how that actually screws with a woman's brain.
• 51:47
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Mm-hmm.
• 51:48
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: If she does that well, it does, but it gives the man control.
• 51:51
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 51:51
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: So it's sort of like a, you know, do the, do the ends justify the means sort of thing.
• 51:55
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And in a lot of the red pill stuff that they don't really care as much about the means or they're misguided into thinking that the very, very insecure, not self-aware women is are, are all that there, are there, yeah.
• 52:09
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: That there are no secure self-confident women, by the way, or they're all crazy.
• 52:12
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 52:13
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Or by the way, the ones that are secure, the ones that are self-confident, they already see those men and they're like, they don't, they're not even, they don't even respond at like, what is wrong with this person.
• 52:23
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 52:23
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Which is why a lot of the girls that I attracted with.
• 52:26
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Some of that methodology were not healthy, secure, confident women.
• 52:31
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 52:31
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: That had their own stuff going.
• 52:33
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 52:33
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Right.
• 52:34
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I was always like, it's so funny how like the hyper independent women who are talking about like six pack and, and six, six figures.
• 52:42
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Six pack pack, uh, what was the other one?
• 52:45
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Six feet?
• 52:46
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Six.
• 52:46
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 52:46
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Six feet.
• 52:47
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Do you know what, what actual like, percentage of men even make six figures.
• 52:52
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I forget the exact number, but it's already like a percent or a couple, a few percent or something like that.
• 52:57
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Then, oh, they have a six pack and they're six feet.
• 53:01
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Like, that's almost zero.
• 53:02
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: It's a very small percentage of men, but everybody wants that.
• 53:05
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: So the, the, the scales economically are not, they're not tipped in your, well again, that goes back to women not knowing what actually matters.
• 53:12
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 53:12
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: In a relationship either and also not, and men also No.
• 53:14
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Not knowing what matters.
• 53:15
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: No.
• 53:16
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: 'cause men think, okay, she's attractive.
• 53:18
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: The sex is gonna be great.
• 53:19
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: She's hot, she's hot.
• 53:20
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: It's good.
• 53:21
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: That's gonna be a good re.
• 53:23
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: That's all that your relationship is about.
• 53:25
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I mean, that's a recipe for, for disaster.
• 53:26
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: For disaster.
• 53:27
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: What are a couple of the other ways that these men will, uh, manipulate women?
• 53:32
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Because I got ladies out here who are dating.
• 53:34
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Okay.
• 53:34
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 53:35
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I need them to know.
• 53:36
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 53:37
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Trying to sleep with you really fast.
• 53:38
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I mean, that's typically a red flag, right?
• 53:41
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Because it probably doesn't mean that he actually likes you.
• 53:45
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: For you, he doesn't know you if, if it's the first or the second or the third date.
• 53:52
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I'm not saying never Right.
• 53:54
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Have sex on the, on the second or third or whatever date.
• 53:57
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: That's not the point.
• 53:58
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: But if you feel the pressure to do that really early on, it's not really a good sign.
• 54:05
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Right.
• 54:05
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: That's one way, for sure.
• 54:07
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Another way is if you start to get really emotionally involved because of the, the sort of energetic dynamic, especially if it reminds you of maybe an insecure.
• 54:20
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Experience that you had with your father or even with your mother, you feel that pattern being repeated, that's a huge red flag.
• 54:27
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And if you feel it being repeated very early on, there's a non-zero chance that he's picking up on your patterns and he's using those to be able to influence you in a way that's not good for you.
• 54:40
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: What is nagging?
• 54:41
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I heard you try and explain nagging to me one time and, and unhealthy men will do that, uh, to women to try and get them to, I don't know, sleep with them.
• 54:50
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I guess.
• 54:51
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: What is nagging?
• 54:52
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah, so that's basically nagging is basically when you give a woman a backhanded compliment, that's also an insult.
• 55:01
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Because what you're doing is you're sort of preying on those insecurities to say, oh, this is really nice, but this other thing, because what's that?
• 55:08
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: What that's doing is essentially lowering her self-esteem so that you can come in and you're like the source of any additional self-esteem that she does have.
• 55:17
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: It's a very, it's a very like, bad thing to do psychologically to anyone, but essentially, here's an example.
• 55:26
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Uh, oh my God, Amanda, I really love your nails.
• 55:29
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Are those real?
• 55:31
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Um, where like, they're obviously not real.
• 55:34
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: You see what I did there?
• 55:35
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Mine are real, but yours are.
• 55:37
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah, but I'm saying if if they weren't, yeah.
• 55:39
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: If they weren't, yeah.
• 55:40
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 55:41
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Okay.
• 55:41
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: That's really interesting.
• 55:42
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And that is supposed to work.
• 55:44
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: How, like what's the logic behind that?
• 55:46
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: The logic, and it does work on insecure women, the reason it works is because you, well, there's a few reasons.
• 55:54
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Number one, you're taking them on an emotional rollercoaster.
• 55:56
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: So a lot of the time what these red pill guys will do.
• 55:59
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: They're trying to spike their emotions.
• 56:02
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Now, you reminded me of a few other things that I'll mention about, you know, some of these tips and tricks that they, that they get passed down to them.
• 56:10
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Uh, but with nagging, you're taking them on an emotional rollercoaster.
• 56:14
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: So the idea is you're always like boosting their emotions.
• 56:17
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: You're, you're getting them in a heightened emotional state.
• 56:19
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: So what you're doing is you're taking them on an emotional rollercoaster.
• 56:21
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: You bring'em up, then, oh, by the way, you're, oh, okay.
• 56:24
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: You're bringing them down.
• 56:25
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: You're creating like this sort of false sense of hope, almost like an emotional addiction.
• 56:29
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 56:30
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I think, I think if I had to analyze it,'cause I never really analyzed it that deeply psychologically, because it was just like, oh, okay, this is interesting.
• 56:36
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: You know, we're, we're learning a thing at this seminar from this coach or whatever, and I thought, that's just how you talk to women.
• 56:43
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: That's just, you know, how you communicate with women because I didn't know any better.
• 56:47
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: But yeah, if you, if you really look at it from a psychological perspective.
• 56:52
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: No, don't.
• 56:53
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: No, leave your sister alone.
• 56:55
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Daisy.
• 56:56
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: The the children are here joining us on camera.
• 56:59
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: They're wherever we are.
• 57:00
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 57:00
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: They, they love us.
• 57:01
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: They, they love to be make little cameos.
• 57:03
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 57:04
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: So as I was saying, they use these things to, to sort of give them an emotional rollercoaster and then to also essentially be the source of any of those positive emotions while taking them down a notch psychologically and playing on their insecurities.
• 57:19
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Another thing, and this isn't called this anymore, I don't think, but you have things like DHV where you're demonstrating higher value, which like makes sense.
• 57:27
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: You, you want to, to present yourself in a good light.
• 57:30
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yes.
• 57:30
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Right?
• 57:31
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: But not only is it toxic because it's done in a contrived way where you're doing it to make her think that you're someone that you're not.
• 57:40
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: A lot of men will actually go and lie about those things.
• 57:43
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Like there's literal manuals where you memorize a six hour routine stack.
• 57:49
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I'm not making this up.
• 57:50
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I'm sure you're not.
• 57:51
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah, yeah.
• 57:53
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: You memorize this like six hour routine stack where you're telling them other people's stories about their successes.
• 58:00
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Like, oh yeah, when I had my stripper ex-girlfriend in Monaco and blah, blah, blah, and then this happened, and then I got into this fight and then this.
• 58:07
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: You're like creating these sort of emotional triggers that play into evolutionary psychology, which do work, right.
• 58:14
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: That's the thing.
• 58:14
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: It's not like this stuff doesn't work.
• 58:16
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: It does.
• 58:17
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And then men think that that's the way that they need to do it because they've had success getting into relationships, physical or otherwise, short term or long term, but most of them don't get far enough that they actually have a sustainable relationship or their relationships will evaporate very quickly.
• 58:34
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Or maybe they will be dating that woman that they attract with all these manipulations and techniques and whatever.
• 58:40
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: They will be dating her for a few years or get married to her.
• 58:42
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: But then what is that relationship based on?
• 58:44
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Lies, insecurity, manipulation, trauma, insecure attachment styles.
• 58:51
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 58:51
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: It's not healthy.
• 58:53
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 58:53
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: It's the same thing as women who are taught to be gold diggers, where it's like a lot of manipulation and all, and I know a lot of the provider man content gets inflated with the gold digger stuff.
• 59:04
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: It's not, they're different.
• 59:06
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Um, but the, but when you go to the other extreme of how women are taught to manipulate men,'cause I tell people this all the time, there's shitty manipulative people all over the world.
• 59:15
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Of course, right?
• 59:16
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: On both sides.
• 59:16
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 59:16
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: On both sides.
• 59:17
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Men and women.
• 59:19
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: It's, but it's a smaller percentage than most people think.
• 59:22
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I think it's just like 10%.
• 59:24
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Mm-hmm.
• 59:24
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Uh, is what I heard actually have some sort of personality disorder.
• 59:27
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Not everybody's a narcissist, right?
• 59:29
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Because I know that likes to get thrown around, um, a lot.
• 59:32
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: It's maybe 10% of the population that does actually have.
• 59:36
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Some sort of like personality disorder or something like that from what we know.
• 59:40
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Um, but the other thing is that, you know, I try and tell people this all the time.
• 59:45
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Most people are just confused.
• 59:47
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah, that's, that's exactly, that's exactly it.
• 59:50
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I mean, I didn't think I was doing anything wrong.
• 59:52
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I didn't think I was being hurtful to women and I did my best not to be.
• 59:56
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 59:56
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: But you either do end up hurting them or best case scenario you don't, but you're attracting a person that's not healthy, that's toxic, that's insecure, that's not gonna be good for you.
• 1:00:07
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: You're not respecting your own value because you're going out and, uh, intentionally or otherwise attracting these women into your life and having relationships with them when they're not right in their own mind.
• 1:00:17
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Right.
• 1:00:18
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And in their own self.
• 1:00:19
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: If there's a man watching this right now, I doubt a red pill guy got this far into it.
• 1:00:23
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: But if there is a man watching this right now, because we do have many I'm They did.
• 1:00:26
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I'm sure they're gonna be in the comments.
• 1:00:28
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 1:00:29
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: What would you say to a man who is watching this and hearing you say that?
• 1:00:35
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: He's starting to wake up to the fact of like, oh, wait a second.
• 1:00:38
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: There's something else out here.
• 1:00:40
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Maybe I've been lied to mm-hmm.
• 1:00:42
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: About the nature of women, or maybe I've been lied to about how relationships work and Oh, actually I have been feeling really icky.
• 1:00:49
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 1:00:50
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: They wouldn't use the word icky, but I've been feeling like something's not right.
• 1:00:56
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 1:00:56
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 1:00:57
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Well, it's not that all relationship coaching or even all dating coaching or dating coaches are bad.
• 1:01:01
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I don't think that that's the case at all it's picking and choosing, and this is something I, this is something I'm even talking about here because I feel called to like share my own story and my own message a little bit because I think that even if I don't end up turning into some sort of business at some point, I, I, I know that I'm helping people and that's like enough for me.
• 1:01:20
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: So there are good coaches out there, just like there are good business coaches, just like there are good life coaches, but.
• 1:01:26
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: They're not all created equal.
• 1:01:28
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And whenever you start to hear content that goes against common sense.
• 1:01:35
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Although there's a lot of weird things that society today calls common sense that it's not, or that they're they're touting is the correct thing that's not.
• 1:01:43
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: So you have to be discerning.
• 1:01:44
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And the way that you be discerning, by the way, is to ground yourself spiritually and emotionally.
• 1:01:48
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Correct.
• 1:01:48
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I'm not saying go and join the church, right?
• 1:01:52
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: But you want to meditate.
• 1:01:53
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: You want to understand what's authentic to you and what isn't, and use your body to determine, you know, what is and isn't.
• 1:01:59
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: You see how you're feeling if you're going up to that nightclub and you're, you know, to a woman there and you're spouting lines that aren't even you, and you're making things up and you're acting in a way.
• 1:02:09
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Let's say that you're really introverted and you don't like going to clubs, but you're, you're a red pill coach or trainer or somebody on the internet.
• 1:02:17
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Some YouTube video you're watching says you gotta, you gotta go out and do night game, you gotta practice, you gotta go and talk to.
• 1:02:23
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: A hundred women, you know, at a, at a nightclub.
• 1:02:25
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Granted there's a time and place for that.
• 1:02:27
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Like if you're really insecure, you're shy, you wanna move a little bit more towards being extroverted, it's not a bad idea to go out to a bar with your friends.
• 1:02:36
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Mm-hmm.
• 1:02:36
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And meet people and be social.
• 1:02:37
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: But there are also a lot of other better ways to do that, arguably.
• 1:02:40
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Right.
• 1:02:40
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: But if you find yourself like regularly in an environment like that, that's not who you are, that's not authentic, where you're meeting people that aren't the kinds of people you just wanna be around at all.
• 1:02:51
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Stop doing that.
• 1:02:52
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: That's why I left Vegas.
• 1:02:53
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I'm like, I don't want to be in Las Vegas anymore.
• 1:02:56
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Just going out.
• 1:02:57
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And I didn't even get drunk.
• 1:02:58
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I mean, I, I would go out pretty much sober.
• 1:03:01
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I mean, sometimes we'd have a drink or two before we went to the club just to kind of get in the mood.
• 1:03:05
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: But I wasn't buying drinks at the nightclub.
• 1:03:06
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: We weren't, even when I had friends that had tables and bottle service and whatever, I mean, we weren't really drinking maybe a little bit, but I wasn't going out there because I wanted to get drunk because I wanted to party.
• 1:03:16
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I was going there because I thought it's how I would meet quality women.
• 1:03:20
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And I'm not saying that quality women aren't in nightclubs, but.
• 1:03:23
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Chances.
• 1:03:23
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Most of them.
• 1:03:24
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: The chances.
• 1:03:25
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah, exactly.
• 1:03:26
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: So, so that's the main thing really, is when you start to feel like whatever you're doing, whatever you're saying, whoever you're being is inauthentic.
• 1:03:33
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: It feels icky in your body.
• 1:03:34
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: It feels icky in yourself.
• 1:03:36
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: When you hear somebody say that, even if you try it and it works, it doesn't mean that it's authentic to you.
• 1:03:41
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: What I had to do a lot of, because I, I was coming from a place where I was a maybe more of a nice guy, even though I wasn't a nice guy in the manipulative sense.
• 1:03:50
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I was a nice guy in that I was introverted.
• 1:03:53
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I had never really been exposed too much to, to women or talking to women.
• 1:03:57
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I didn't have a father figure to show me the ropes, so to speak.
• 1:04:01
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I was coming from that place on one side of the pendulum, and then I started looking at the pickup stuff and I'm like, okay, well this is on the totally opposite side.
• 1:04:08
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Maybe there's something here that I need to learn.
• 1:04:10
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And there was, and I did learn a few good things.
• 1:04:12
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I'm not throwing it all away.
• 1:04:14
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Uh, but overall, a lot of it was coming from a very inauthentic place.
• 1:04:19
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And to be honest, it's hard to know who to trust and who to listen to.
• 1:04:22
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: It's not always, it's not always black and white.
• 1:04:25
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Right, right.
• 1:04:27
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: All right.
• 1:04:27
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Let's get back to the ladies.
• 1:04:28
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: That was the message for the men.
• 1:04:30
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: This is something that comes up in the comment section quite a lot, or in the emails.
• 1:04:34
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: A woman has been with a man for many, many years.
• 1:04:37
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: There is no ring in sight.
• 1:04:39
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: She really wants a ring.
• 1:04:43
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And I try to tell the women, Hey, it doesn't take men that long to figure out whether they want to marry someone.
• 1:04:49
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: If you like it, then you should have put a ring on it.
• 1:04:51
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 1:04:51
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: So in your experience, and that's what I've heard from several men including you, that it didn't take that long to figure it out.
• 1:04:59
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: What message do you have for the women who are in that situation where they're with a man and they've been dating him for years?
• 1:05:07
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: It's not, and they wanna get married, it's just not happening.
• 1:05:11
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I have my theories as to why that happens.
• 1:05:13
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 1:05:13
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: My theory as to why that happens, usually the woman's a bit more insecure.
• 1:05:16
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Mm-hmm.
• 1:05:17
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Um, so he, and she's trying, or she's trying to play it Cool.
• 1:05:21
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: She's not trying to be too much or too demanding, but basically in trying to play it cool.
• 1:05:26
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: She did not, at some point in the beginning say, Hey, I'm looking for marriage and kids.
• 1:05:32
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 1:05:33
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Again, I wouldn't say that it's that men are necessarily being sinister.
• 1:05:38
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: If they've been dating you for months or years and they're not marrying you, they might just be really insecure or they might be afraid that that's, that's something that happens is that they're, they don't, like in my case, right.
• 1:05:49
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I grew up in a childhood where there were a lot of things that my mom did and I that with my dad that I, I wouldn't say are very, very healthy things, and the relationship ended, uh, badly.
• 1:06:02
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And it was just, it was not a good example of a healthy, it was painful, yeah.
• 1:06:05
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Marriage and it was painful and maybe men are dealing with that, but that's why you want to screen for healthy men to begin with, and men that actually are secure in themselves that have done work, whether it's therapy, whether it's personal development.
• 1:06:21
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Not men that are broken that are with you because they're trying to fulfill some unmet need that they're not meeting like within themselves.
• 1:06:29
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Right?
• 1:06:29
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 1:06:29
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: You wanna bring a hundred and a hundred, not 50 50.
• 1:06:32
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I also warn women that with the psychology of men, if you give him everything, uh, he will get, he, he will start seeing you as a convenience.
• 1:06:41
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 1:06:41
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Uh, you, you didn't cook for me before we got married.
• 1:06:43
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Hell no.
• 1:06:43
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I did not.
• 1:06:44
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I, you told me you didn't know how to cook and now I understand why.
• 1:06:48
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 1:06:49
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: It so funny story, right.
• 1:06:51
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I do know how to cook, but when we were, uh, not married yet, I did not tell him that I knew how to cook.
• 1:06:59
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Right.
• 1:06:59
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: In fact, I may have, um, embellished how much I do not know a, a lot.
• 1:07:05
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 1:07:07
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And then you made me this pad Tai.
• 1:07:08
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: That was like from a.
• 1:07:10
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Thai restaurant basically.
• 1:07:12
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And I'm like, wait, what?
• 1:07:12
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: How?
• 1:07:13
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: But you don't know how to be barely, you can barely fry an egg.
• 1:07:15
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Amanda, how did you, and I was, I was really confused.
• 1:07:18
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I thought you just had a screw loose or something.
• 1:07:20
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Because I just figured like, maybe, maybe you know how to cook this one very intricate foreign recipe, but then you don't know how to fry a chicken breast.
• 1:07:29
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And it was just really, and I was like, I was trying to put two and two together and I was very confused.
• 1:07:34
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: It's like, what's wrong?
• 1:07:34
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: What's going on here?
• 1:07:37
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 1:07:37
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Well, I knew that about male psychology, right.
• 1:07:40
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Which is if you start giving a man everything and you become too convenient mm-hmm.
• 1:07:44
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Even after marriage, but that's another conversation.
• 1:07:47
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Uh, he will not put a ring on it.
• 1:07:48
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 1:07:50
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: He will not.
• 1:07:50
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Right.
• 1:07:51
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Um, and but back to the thing, like how long before you knew, because you had told me even before we had started dating, you had an inkling.
• 1:08:02
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Uh, I knew you were a serious person Very early on, in fact.
• 1:08:06
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And I, I didn't know.
• 1:08:08
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I didn't even know that you liked me until probably after I was like, wow, would I actually consider being with this girl?
• 1:08:15
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I'm like, I, I really like her.
• 1:08:17
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: We were, and it wasn't just like this emotional thing.
• 1:08:19
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I mean, it, we, we didn't even see each other.
• 1:08:23
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: We meet in person until basically months after we started dating.
• 1:08:26
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: 'cause we were living in different countries.
• 1:08:28
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 1:08:28
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Uh, but I already had an inkling because of just who you were and how we had connected.
• 1:08:35
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And the fact that we already had, were both running our businesses, we were both successful in our own right.
• 1:08:41
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I was helping you with your business just kind of as a colleague, as a friend, and you were helping me a lot with mine.
• 1:08:46
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And I'm like, I already started to see, oh wow, there's something happening here.
• 1:08:50
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: We're actually like contributing to each other's lives and there's something bigger here.
• 1:08:54
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And also something that I hadn't really felt in any other relationship that I'd been in.
• 1:08:58
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: It was very different.
• 1:09:00
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 1:09:00
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: If you wanna learn more about what he felt, and we'll get into it a little bit, momentarily check out the Feminine Magnetism Mastery program because what you were feeling was feminine energy.
• 1:09:10
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Because I like maybe a few months before meeting you was when I really started getting into that and really started understanding it, um, one of the things that you have said to me, which is, uh, a part of what I call the feminine stages.
• 1:09:26
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Mm-hmm.
• 1:09:27
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Once a woman gets to what I call the emperor stage, she becomes rare.
• 1:09:32
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And when a woman becomes rare in a man's eyes, he's gonna swoop her up quick, which is pretty much what happened with you.
• 1:09:39
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 1:09:39
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Especially if he has experience dating other women.
• 1:09:42
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: So, and I had experience dating a lot of other women.
• 1:09:46
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 1:09:47
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: So, in your eyes, what is it that makes a woman.
• 1:09:51
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Uh, rare because I've heard that from other men before where they're like, oh, I knew it was her because I had dated a lot of other women before and I knew that she was different.
• 1:10:00
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: She was rare.
• 1:10:01
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: There was something different about her.
• 1:10:02
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And I've noticed that that's when men commit quick.
• 1:10:05
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 1:10:05
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Is when they think that you are rare.
• 1:10:09
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: The main thing was just that you actually were able to create your own success in the world and that you knew what you were talking about.
• 1:10:19
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And, and actually it's, it's beyond that, what really stood out for me was I think exactly what you're, you're pointing your finger on now, so I know you talk a lot about this in your Feminine Magnetism Mastery course, but it's, it's that energetic thing and I didn't know if it was just sort of you being into spirituality or you being into.
• 1:10:39
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: The energetic work in general, because you were also into that and, and the way that you talked about even sales and actually coached me in some ways on sales and, uh, around how to think about a few problems I was having at a very high level in business that I'd never heard from anybody else.
• 1:10:54
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: It wasn't just the, it wasn't just the pragmatic parts of it.
• 1:10:58
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: It wasn't just the strategy of it, it was where you were coming from energetically.
• 1:11:02
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And it wasn't until actually recently when you started getting into this work, and I hear you recording all your courses and stuff all the time.
• 1:11:08
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: 'cause we share an office where I'm like, oh.
• 1:11:10
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: So that was it.
• 1:11:12
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: But it was the energy that you brought to it, that feminine energy that you brought, that was a totally different perspective than I would've heard from any of my male colleagues.
• 1:11:22
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Mm-hmm.
• 1:11:22
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Because we were, we were just sort of business friends at the beginning or anything remotely similar to any of the energy that I experienced or the contribution that I experienced for me, even women that I had been dating for years, it just totally stood out.
• 1:11:38
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: There was like this sort of, it was a spark.
• 1:11:41
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: 'cause I did feel that chemistry with you very, very early on.
• 1:11:44
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I mean, even the first time meeting, I was like, what?
• 1:11:47
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Okay, there's something here.
• 1:11:49
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Right?
• 1:11:49
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And it was also what you were bringing to the table.
• 1:11:53
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: By the way, men never ask a woman, what are you bringing to the table?
• 1:11:57
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Because if you don't know what she's bringing to the table, by the time you're sitting down in front of her, I mean you have a, you have a problem there.
• 1:12:04
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Mm-hmm.
• 1:12:05
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: You never wanna ask, ask that.
• 1:12:07
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: But you were, you were bringing a lot of value already there.
• 1:12:10
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And it wasn't just anything tangible, it was all the intangible stuff.
• 1:12:16
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: What does it feel like from your perspective, because I can.
• 1:12:20
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I can explain it to women, right?
• 1:12:21
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Mm-hmm.
• 1:12:22
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And I'm like, Hey, here's the, the structure.
• 1:12:24
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Like one of the, one of the, some of the feedback that we got, uh, you were helping one of the students with a tech issue.
• 1:12:29
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Thank you.
• 1:12:30
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I would be lost without you, uh, on all the tech things.
• 1:12:34
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: But one of the, the, some of the feedback that she came, uh, brought to us about the Feminine Magnetism Mastery program was the fact that it was very well structured.
• 1:12:42
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yep.
• 1:12:43
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: So I can take on that masculine, uh, teacher role, uh, for the women here and kind of, uh, explain it to them in a way that makes sense for the women, for their brains, especially women from western culture where they've been told, uh, intellect and, and your brain.
• 1:12:58
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And, you know, I got physicians, engineers like, I, I need to talk to them in a certain way for them to get it.
• 1:13:03
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I get it.
• 1:13:04
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 1:13:04
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And a lot of the women you are, you are attracting, are in accounting, they're in hr, they're in tech, like all across the board.
• 1:13:10
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I need to make it make sense.
• 1:13:12
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Mm-hmm.
• 1:13:12
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Right.
• 1:13:13
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: But what does it feel like?
• 1:13:15
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: From a man's perspective, and I know that maybe it's not gonna be the easiest thing to describe because it is a lot more intangible, but try your best.
• 1:13:25
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 1:13:25
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: What, what it looks like is that I had a lot of the tactics and a lot of the hard skills and I couldn't see my experience through the perspective of the soft skills and the people and the connections.
• 1:13:42
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: We had one call about sales where you, you know, you had given me some feedback after you listened to a recording of one of my calls that ended up being like a 15 or$20,000 sale, and then another two or three where I applied the same thing.
• 1:13:54
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Like, Hey, just follow up more and just say this'cause it's pretty obvious he needs what you're selling.
• 1:13:59
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: This was after he asked me for help, by the way, which is very important.
• 1:14:02
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 1:14:02
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: For women to understand.
• 1:14:04
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Don't go to your man and start coaching him.
• 1:14:06
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And we were friends at this point, we weren't dating yet, we were colleagues, but I was still applying the same principle.
• 1:14:11
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Mm-hmm.
• 1:14:12
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Which is, unless you asked me, I didn't say anything.
• 1:14:16
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: That's very important for women to understand because a lot of women will go into relationships or with their husbands and they'll start like nitpicking or yelling at him or criticizing him, uh, or trying to like find a solution to a problem like immediately.
• 1:14:29
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And then that's, that's pretty much a turnoff to men.
• 1:14:31
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Um, yet they complain when men do it, yet they complain when men do it.
• 1:14:34
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And they call that mansplaining.
• 1:14:35
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And they call it mansplaining.
• 1:14:37
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: But that's what men are supposed to do, is they're supposed to guide, teach, tutor, mentor.
• 1:14:42
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: It's one of the ways in which they protect.
• 1:14:43
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: It's one of the ways in which they give.
• 1:14:45
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Um, and I can do other videos on that.
• 1:14:47
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Let me know in the comments if you would like to understand the psychology behind all of that.
• 1:14:52
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: But, uh, I even still to this day, unless you ask me for my opinion or my advice or my counsel, I don't typically Yeah.
• 1:15:02
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Interject it because men typically see that as disrespectful.
• 1:15:07
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Mm-hmm.
• 1:15:08
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Like, or like, you don't trust him.
• 1:15:10
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: So I just wanted to make that clear in case there was some confusion because I know when it comes to this feminine energy stuff of like, what to say when, and the energy gets very, very confusing for people.
• 1:15:19
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: So I just wanted to pinpoint that in there.
• 1:15:21
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: You had asked me, yeah, that's, that's for definitely helpful.
• 1:15:24
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I had, and it was, it was a different kind of energy that you brought and it solved a lot of my problems.
• 1:15:29
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And you, you helped me make, and again, this is what, this wasn't like you bringing me a client or you bringing me money or you giving me money or you buying, even paying for my, my service or anything like that.
• 1:15:40
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Like you literally just in a few minutes of talking through something and understanding the situation better than I did from that energetic perspective, from that feminine energy perspective, you were able to put the, just help me like DaVinci, right?
• 1:15:54
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Help me put those pieces together that were already there because I already had the skills.
• 1:15:58
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I, I knew how to deliver on the project.
• 1:16:00
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: You, I already had the connection.
• 1:16:01
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I knew how to make money, I knew how to close deals, but there were a few things.
• 1:16:05
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Landed an extra$30,000 in my lap in like three weeks.
• 1:16:09
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah, that'll definitely get a man's attention.
• 1:16:14
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 1:16:15
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: It was not my, but it was the way you did it.
• 1:16:16
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: It was the fact that I, I felt like, wow, you're contributing and I have someone here that's really on my level versus feeling like I always have to pull everybody in my life, including the women I'm dating up.
• 1:16:27
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Mm.
• 1:16:29
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: That was a big part of it.
• 1:16:30
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Can you explain that for the women who might be confused about that, like feeling like you're pulling them up?
• 1:16:34
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I feel like a lot of them are in a situation where they feel like they're pulling the men up, uh, when they're dating.
• 1:16:39
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 1:16:40
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: But can you talk a little bit about that?
• 1:16:43
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Sure.
• 1:16:45
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: So here's the difference between a man wanting to just be with a woman that could split the bills or pay half of the bills, versus wanting to be with a woman who contributes.
• 1:16:58
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Because when you're like, Hey, I, I wanna, I want to date a woman, but she better pay half the bills.
• 1:17:03
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: You're almost asking for like a roommate.
• 1:17:06
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Or a platonic friend.
• 1:17:08
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Mm-hmm.
• 1:17:09
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And it creates a dynamic that to the woman is not very attractive at all.
• 1:17:13
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Versus when you're coming at it from the perspective of I want someone who's able to contribute.
• 1:17:22
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: It's not always gonna be 50 50, but she's a lot of the time contributing things that you don't see right away.
• 1:17:29
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: She's contributing a lot of value in otherwise, like you did with me, where you it, it's not like I looked at that and I'm like, oh, you can make a lot of money, so if I have a relationship with you, I know you're gonna have, be able to pay half the rent.
• 1:17:42
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: It was the, the whole is greater than the sum of its parts.
• 1:17:46
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And more importantly, I don't feel like I'm gonna have to pull you up like you're, you're carrying your own weight, but it doesn't have to look like what society or feminism might say.
• 1:17:54
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: It's, it's not pulling the same weight that a man pulls.
• 1:17:57
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: It might be more, it might be less.
• 1:17:59
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 1:17:59
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: But it's in a different way.
• 1:18:00
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: It's a different kind of weight.
• 1:18:01
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: It's a different type.
• 1:18:02
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: It's a different style.
• 1:18:03
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 1:18:03
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: It's the nuance.
• 1:18:04
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: That's the thing that a lot of people miss, especially a lot of these, these coaches, whether it's for men, for women, red pill, blue pill, whatever, it's like they miss the nuance.
• 1:18:14
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Mm-hmm.
• 1:18:15
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Because there's a lot of nuance in human communication.
• 1:18:17
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: There's a lot of nuance in human dynamics.
• 1:18:20
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Mm-hmm.
• 1:18:21
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Why should women not feel guilty when men want to give to them?
• 1:18:26
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: So there's an interesting paradox I've noticed in the comment section, which is that women want provider men.
• 1:18:31
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: They want men who will pay the bills.
• 1:18:33
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Uh mm-hmm.
• 1:18:34
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: A lot of them are getting called gold diggers by men in the west if they say that.
• 1:18:38
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: But you explain why.
• 1:18:40
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Men have gone to his place.
• 1:18:41
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yep.
• 1:18:42
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Don't date those men just understand how they got there and what's going on.
• 1:18:46
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Um, so interesting paradox is they say they want provider men, but then when a man provides, they don't wanna receive, they don't wanna receive either money, or a lot of women also don't, or they feel guilty receiving.
• 1:18:59
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: They feel guilty.
• 1:19:00
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: That's common.
• 1:19:00
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 1:19:00
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Or they get mad.
• 1:19:01
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Right.
• 1:19:02
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: 'cause for example, a man giving them advice pisses them off.
• 1:19:05
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: But that's, that's one of the ways that a man does provide that is provision.
• 1:19:09
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 1:19:09
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Why, why would you not want someone to help you with the situation you're in now?
• 1:19:13
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: You have to actually listen too.
• 1:19:15
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: The challenge is when men don't listen and a woman talks about her day and they immediately jump to solve the problem, which if you're talking to a man, makes sense.
• 1:19:24
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Oh, oh yeah.
• 1:19:25
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Sure bud.
• 1:19:26
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Like, I know exactly how to do this.
• 1:19:26
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Let me show you.
• 1:19:28
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: You don't wanna necessarily do that with a woman in the same way.
• 1:19:30
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And that's, that's maybe one of the origins of that conflict.
• 1:19:34
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Of that conflict and of what they call mansplaining.
• 1:19:36
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Mm-hmm.
• 1:19:36
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Right.
• 1:19:37
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: But then, then as with everything, society takes it too far, the pendulum swings too far.
• 1:19:41
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And then anytime a man tries to give you advice, it's mansplaining.
• 1:19:44
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And it's bad.
• 1:19:44
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And it's assault or something.
• 1:19:47
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: You touched, you touched on an important point, which is, um, feeling guilty for it.
• 1:19:52
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And you also said, why wouldn't you want somebody else helping you solve your problems?
• 1:19:55
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I can tell you why.
• 1:19:56
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Because it makes you weak.
• 1:19:58
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 1:20:00
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Or that's what they've been told.
• 1:20:01
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: It makes you weak, or I could understand how they see that.
• 1:20:03
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Or you are now obliged that if he wants sex with you, you have to give him sex.
• 1:20:07
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Like, oh, he took me out to dinner.
• 1:20:09
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: That's, that's, that's exactly the, the thing there, that, that's the incongruence.
• 1:20:14
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: The fact that a man is giving you something does not mean that you owe him anything.
• 1:20:20
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And that's, that's part of what's wrong with both.
• 1:20:23
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: The feminism movement and the trainings on how to be a gold digger and how to use men and all these other things.
• 1:20:29
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And what's also wrong with the red pill, because the red pill teaches, you know, spend and invest as little as you possibly can in a woman and try to get sex as quickly as possible, which then the other stuff teaches the opposite.
• 1:20:41
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Ironically, the way that men fall in love with women is by investing in them.
• 1:20:46
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 1:20:46
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Whether it's financially or giving them advice or mentoring them, or molding them or protecting them.
• 1:20:53
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: That is actually how men fall in love is by investing in a woman.
• 1:20:59
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: But if a woman is unable to receive that, then it just blocks the energy at the door.
• 1:21:04
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Then it just blocks the energy of being able to, to fall in love with her, and that's one of the things that makes a woman.
• 1:21:09
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Rare because, uh, I've gotten that comment from women all over the world, like across the board, not even just the west.
• 1:21:16
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I've gotten that from Asian women mm-hmm.
• 1:21:17
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: In the comments as well.
• 1:21:19
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Right.
• 1:21:19
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And I was like, oh, so this is, this receiving piece is like a worldwide issue when it comes to women and women not understanding that when a man gives to you and invests in you, that's what makes him fall in love or it's one of the things that makes him fall in love.
• 1:21:36
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: It means he cares about you.
• 1:21:37
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: If a man's not trying to give to you, he does not care.
• 1:21:41
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 1:21:42
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: If he's just like kicking back and doing his thing and he doesn't notice when you have a challenge, when you have a problem and at least offer a solution, right.
• 1:21:51
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: In the, in the right timing and in the right way.
• 1:21:53
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: But if he never do, if he never does any of that, and you're just, you just sort of feel like you have a roommate and you're on your own and your man isn't proactively trying to make your life better, that to me is not a marriage, that's not a relationship.
• 1:22:06
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: That's you.
• 1:22:07
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Being roomies or friends with benefits with someone, and the sex probably isn't even that great either because there's no polarity or not there.
• 1:22:14
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:22:15
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: We're not there.
• 1:22:16
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: There's no polarity in that.
• 1:22:18
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: What are some of the things, final question, right?
• 1:22:20
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: What are some of the things that are just, um, a man trying to be useful and helpful, because that's what men are always trying to do, that women, uh, may accidentally perceive as he's problematic.
• 1:22:35
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I should be afraid of this.
• 1:22:39
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: One example, and, and I did this a lot with you as, as you did with me, but like when a man would try to, for example, help you with a business problem you're having, I did that with you in the beginning.
• 1:22:51
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I,'cause I just really, I saw that you needed my help and vice versa.
• 1:22:55
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I mean, you, we, it was a really good exchange of value.
• 1:22:58
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: You helped me with some of that energetic stuff and the sales, and I helped you with a lot of your tech and, and I enjoyed doing it.
• 1:23:04
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: This is part of what actually got me attracted to you in the beginning because I was investing and because you were receiving so well now that I, now that I kind of think back, I was like, I'm helping you.
• 1:23:14
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And a lot of women would've been like, okay, well let me, you know, how much do I owe you?
• 1:23:18
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Or, and that's not to say you just keep, keep on taking from a man in using him.
• 1:23:24
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: There's, there's a big difference and it's subtle, but you were allowing me to give to you.
• 1:23:28
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: You would call me, you'd have a problem.
• 1:23:30
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Okay, great.
• 1:23:31
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I, I, and, and yeah.
• 1:23:32
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I mean, I was probably also attracted to you already at that point, and I, I enjoyed this is, you know, maybe I didn't even tell you this before, but, uh, I, I, I really enjoyed just getting to spend time with you.
• 1:23:42
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I was like, oh, okay, we're hanging out on Zoom and I'm helping you solve this tech stuff.
• 1:23:46
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And I was like, oh, this is really cool.
• 1:23:48
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Like, I'm hanging out with Amanda.
• 1:23:50
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: It was fun for me.
• 1:23:51
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: So I, I enjoyed just spending time with you, period.
• 1:23:54
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: 'cause you were just a cool person to spend time with.
• 1:23:57
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: But the fact that I was giving and you were receiving like that was.
• 1:24:00
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: That was really valuable to me.
• 1:24:01
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: That was fulfilling because you, you received so gracefully and not a lot of other people would.
• 1:24:06
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: You just allowed me to like kind of pour into you.
• 1:24:09
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: So the mistake that a lot of women would make at that level is saying, oh no, like that's too much.
• 1:24:13
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: She's gonna want something from me.
• 1:24:14
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: But I didn't want anything from you.
• 1:24:16
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I wasn't attached to getting something back or, or anything like that.
• 1:24:20
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I just very much enjoyed spending time with you and sharing all of that.
• 1:24:23
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 1:24:24
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: It's interesting.
• 1:24:24
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Uh, one of the comments that I get sometimes,'cause you were a part of my masculine energy experiment that I've talked about on this channel, was I, well, I mean, every man in my life was a part of the masculine energy experiment.
• 1:24:36
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And then I met you, uh, within four months.
• 1:24:39
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Uh, and you also knew that there were other men who were hitting on me.
• 1:24:44
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 1:24:44
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I think you might have played that up a little bit.
• 1:24:46
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: But you knew I had men all around me, whether it was the events that I was going to, or you knew I'd been hit on by, in a common group that we were in, like you knew.
• 1:24:55
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: But that's because all the men around me were a part of my feminine energy, uh, sorry, masculine energy experiment where I said I have to get really good at receiving from men.
• 1:25:05
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Mm-hmm.
• 1:25:05
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Whether it's solving a problem or they wanna gift me something, take me out to a dinner.
• 1:25:10
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And I had a lot of male colleagues that, you know, took me out to dinner or helped me to solve problems.
• 1:25:15
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And I would learn to receive that, uh, very gracefully.
• 1:25:20
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And when I tell women to do this, the pushback that I'll get sometimes is, what if I don't like him?
• 1:25:28
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I mean, what, what, what does that even mean?
• 1:25:29
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: That she's obliged to sleep with him just because she lets him open the door for her.
• 1:25:33
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: That's crazy.
• 1:25:37
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Or that men only give when they want something.
• 1:25:41
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I think that that is true in a lot of ways for unhealthy men.
• 1:25:46
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And part of the problem is that people on both sides, like both men and women, will conflate the things that are true for a healthy person, emotionally, mentally, whatever of the opposite sex versus an unhealthy person.
• 1:25:59
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And they'll, they'll say that, Hey, if I allow myself to receive, I'm gonna attract predators and I'm gonna attract people that just want to give so that they can receive something.
• 1:26:10
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And to a certain extent that, that, to a certain extent that might be true.
• 1:26:14
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: But what you're also doing there is you're completely blocking yourself from being able to have a relationship with healthy men.
• 1:26:24
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And that's not a winning game.
• 1:26:25
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: You're not playing the game to win, then you're playing it not to lose.
• 1:26:28
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Right?
• 1:26:29
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: So the, the way that you play that game is you have to balance.
• 1:26:33
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: How do I protect myself emotionally, energetically, spiritually, everything else, and have proper boundaries with how do I do the things that will allow me to actually be vulnerable and receive from the right man?
• 1:26:49
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And having that discernment and that filter, which in terms of boundaries, we have a whole module on boundaries, on the high value woman, uh, transformation program.
• 1:26:58
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: So we, we gotta start wrapping this up.
• 1:27:00
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Thank you so much for coming on and allowing me to ask you these questions that have been coming in on the channel and Oh, my pleasure.
• 1:27:08
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And sharing your perspective.
• 1:27:10
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: It was, it was my honor.
• 1:27:11
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And sharing your perspective, um, for these women guys.
• 1:27:14
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I'm serious.
• 1:27:15
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Like, as soon as I started showing him some of these comments, he's like, you need to interview me.
• 1:27:20
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Right.
• 1:27:21
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I wanna go on there.
• 1:27:22
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I wanna help, I wanna, I'll take one for the team.
• 1:27:25
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 1:27:25
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Um, you know, I wanna help you grow this.
• 1:27:28
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I wanna help you get this in front of.
• 1:27:30
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Um, more women so they understand.
• 1:27:31
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: So thank you so much.
• 1:27:32
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: 'cause I don't know, I think I mentioned it on the videos, but I don't know if they really know, like just how much you've inspired, uh, even me doing, am I your muse?
• 1:27:43
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Not quite right.
• 1:27:45
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I see you as more of a mentor.
• 1:27:46
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: You're one of the most brilliant business minds.
• 1:27:49
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Aw.
• 1:27:49
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Uh, that I know.
• 1:27:50
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I'll, I'll take the muse.
• 1:27:51
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Thank you.
• 1:27:51
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I'll take the muse title.
• 1:27:53
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 1:27:53
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: But for you, I see that's, that's your title.
• 1:27:54
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I see that.
• 1:27:55
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Right.
• 1:27:55
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I'll see this for you.
• 1:27:56
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I see.
• 1:27:56
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: As more of a mentor because I mean, you don't even, guys don't even know how many times I've wanted to quit this channel.
• 1:28:02
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: How many times I was like, I don't have time between like the his business and the house and everything we're doing.
• 1:28:08
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And I'll, I'll help you with the kids more with the fur babies.
• 1:28:10
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 1:28:11
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I'll start editing more of my own content and give you more space to focus on the things that you wanna do.
• 1:28:19
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 1:28:19
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And on the flip side, for men, it's great too because the more women you speak to, the better the men get because they realize that not all women are crazy and insecure and everything else.
• 1:28:29
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: So it just moves everyone forward as a whole.
• 1:28:32
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 1:28:32
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And I'll end it on this note, which is women need to get really good at taking leadership from men.
• 1:28:37
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And I'll give a very concrete example.
• 1:28:39
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: A lot of y'all found this channel because of the first video I did about Aubrey Marcus.
• 1:28:44
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: You made me do that video not made me like I did.
• 1:28:47
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I guess I did.
• 1:28:47
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 1:28:48
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Not made me right.
• 1:28:49
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: But you were like, you have to go film this now.
• 1:28:52
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: When that broke out, I was like, are you crazy?
• 1:28:53
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: We're in the middle of moving.
• 1:28:55
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: We're in the middle of, and then I, I remember and I said, he's right.
• 1:28:59
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: He has a brilliant business.
• 1:29:00
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Mind.
• 1:29:01
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: If he's saying this, it's because he knows what he's talking about.
• 1:29:05
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And in between packing up the whole house that we had in the, in the, in the city and moving out to the country and all the craziness we had going on, uh, with a move in a country that we are not from, uh, by the way, to add a little bit more complexity to the situation, I took your leadership, I followed your advice, boom.
• 1:29:24
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Almost 10,000 views on that video, which is how.
• 1:29:28
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: A lot of people found me or even moving to Mexico, you know?
• 1:29:31
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Mm-hmm.
• 1:29:31
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Following your leadership, uh, where you were like, Hey, things are getting crazy in the United States and other parts of the western world.
• 1:29:38
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Uh, I mean, we weren't even married yet and you were making sure that I had my residency.
• 1:29:44
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: You helped me through that whole process that the immigration was good because you were like, even if, I think, I mean, we had already had a talk about commitment and marriage and, and where things were going before I showed up, but I, it was clear to me that even if we did not work out, you wanted to make sure that I was good.
• 1:30:03
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 1:30:03
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And I did.
• 1:30:04
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And you did still do and still do.
• 1:30:07
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: You still do.
• 1:30:07
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah, you do.
• 1:30:08
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I'm very grateful for you.
• 1:30:09
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Thank you.
• 1:30:10
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Grateful for you too.
• 1:30:12
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: All right.
• 1:30:12
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Let them know where they can find you because you have your own YouTube with really interesting stuff going on.
• 1:30:19
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Absolutely.
• 1:30:19
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: You can check out all the information there in the show notes, uh, and we'll link all that below.
• 1:30:25
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Entrepreneur, expat on YouTube and entrepreneur expat official on Instagram.
• 1:30:31
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And then we're working on maybe putting together some, some products for men as well.
• 1:30:37
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: So if there's any men watching this, if we do that by the time this comes out, we'll be sure to link it below.
• 1:30:42
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Have the women inspired you to maybe go talk to him?
• 1:30:45
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yeah.
• 1:30:45
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Now I'm like, maybe I need to start diving into this a little bit more.
• 1:30:49
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Because it's, it's time to see society and people, uh, getting better and making love better and changing this all for the better.
• 1:30:58
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: So, well everyone, thank you so much for giving us your time today.
• 1:31:02
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: It was an honor.
• 1:31:03
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Um, we'll have Justin back every once in a while if I can pull him away from his busy schedule, uh, to come talk to you guys.
• 1:31:10
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: If you like this video, please give it a thumbs up.
• 1:31:13
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: It'll help us get it in front of more women and men, even if they wanna fight us in the comments.
• 1:31:17
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: The red pill.
• 1:31:18
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Guys, we, we welcome it.
• 1:31:19
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Please fight.
• 1:31:20
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yep.
• 1:31:20
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: That's just boost our engagement.
• 1:31:22
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: It's okay.
• 1:31:22
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: We don't mind.
• 1:31:23
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Yes.
• 1:31:23
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Engagement boosters.
• 1:31:23
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: We love you.
• 1:31:24
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Even if you disagree, please fight in the comments.
• 1:31:26
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: We love it.
• 1:31:27
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Um, and make sure to share this out with a girlfriend or somebody who may need it.
• 1:31:32
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Make sure to follow Justin over at Entrepreneur Expat if you're interested in the international lifestyle, global diversification, online business, all those kinds of things.
• 1:31:42
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Um, and all our programs that are available.
• 1:31:45
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: I mentioned a few throughout this, this interview that we just did.
• 1:31:50
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: You can find them in the description below.
• 1:31:52
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: And we now also have QR codes that show up on the video.
• 1:31:56
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Thanks to my love, who was like, you need to figure out QR codes.
• 1:31:59
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Mm-hmm.
• 1:32:00
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Help, like, let me help you figure out the QR codes because that'll make things easier, uh, for everyone.
• 1:32:05
  Divine Masculine Energy - interview with Justin: Thank you everyone, uh, so much, and we will catch you on the next one.