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- 0:00It's still really to be David. Welcome, everybody. Welcome to this special
- 0:06edition of The Stow Railtoy Show. Jeff Peck, Doctor Trey Franklin, August
- 0:10thirty, twenty twenty three. I wish it was under better, better circumstances
- 0:16as we remember the life and give our thoughts on the tragic passing of Bray
- 0:25Wyatt Windham Rotunda. The news broke Thursday afternoon, late Thursday evening or early
- 0:33Thursday evening. I should say I didn't know about it, doctor Tray,
- 0:39for a good four hours or so. I was playing softball, which I
- 0:44tend to do on Thursday nights. I come home and I didn't go online,
- 0:49no text or anything like that, not even any alert news items popping
- 0:55up. And I'm scrolling through Instagram at like ten o'clock on the East Coast
- 0:59and I see a WE graphic WWE remembers Windham Rotunda aka Bray Wyatt, and
- 1:06my heart immediately sank in my chest. You know, we'll have plenty to
- 1:12talk about here throughout this entire special edition of the podcast. But where were
- 1:19you and how did you find out about the very tragic news. So I
- 1:23had just gotten home from work, getting ready to go on my vacation and
- 1:30kind of glancing through Facebook, and I saw somebody posts, you know,
- 1:34r I P bray Wyatt and I was like, wait what And went on
- 1:38a few of the wrestling news sites that I go to. Nobody had posted
- 1:42anything about it yet. Went on ww dot com, nothing was there,
- 1:48and I was like, Okay, maybe it's one of those like a little
- 1:49fake news stories you see pop up from time to time, like you know,
- 1:55like celebrity passings and stuff like that, because everywhere I look, I
- 1:57couldn't find anything. And then about fifteen minutes later, I saw somebody linked
- 2:01to the tweet from Triple H And even then, at first I thought it
- 2:07was a work. I literally thought that, you know, it was them
- 2:12trying to kill off the bray Wyatt character. And you know, you and
- 2:15I had talked a few weeks ago about how he had been ill, but
- 2:20now they were trying to make plans for his return everything else. I thought
- 2:23it was their way of kind of starting over, like refreshing the character.
- 2:28Basically, you just clear clear, cleaning the slate. And then the news
- 2:32reports are popping up everywhere, and then I started seeing stuff coming out from
- 2:37wrestlers and everything else, and I was just kind of dumbfounded and just didn't
- 2:44know how to react. I said, there way for my wife to get
- 2:45help from work so we could, like I said, finished getting ready to
- 2:46go on our vacation. And she got home and I was like, did
- 2:50you get on Facebook day? She's like no, and I'm like, bray
- 2:53Wyatt passed and she's like, are you kidding me? I'm like no,
- 2:57that's It's like, I mean, it's been five days. I'm still kind
- 3:00of weirdly numb about the whole thing, but yeah, that's kind of my
- 3:06timeline for finding out about it. Yeah, I obviously had a tough time
- 3:12sleeping on Thursday night going in Friday just thinking about the news. When these
- 3:16things happen, you know, there's a selfish side of it, where it's
- 3:21like, you know, you lose a wrestler, and the fan, you
- 3:23know, being a fan, it's like, wow, that creative light is
- 3:28out now. But I like immediately jumped towards the fact that this guy has
- 3:32four young children, probably all under the age of ten. I would imagine
- 3:38that as old as is probably under the age of ten, and now they're
- 3:42living in a world without their father. Ray Wyatt's girlfriend, Joe Joe Offerman,
- 3:47who worked for WWE for a period of time as a ring announcer,
- 3:51now is widowed, has two children that she's going to be taking care of
- 3:57on her own without her boyfriend end Rock, you know, solid person to
- 4:03have there in Windham Rotunda and my heart broke thinking about all that. I
- 4:11mean, it was just and then you just read the tributes like all night
- 4:14long, like I probably did not get to sleep till about like twelve thirty
- 4:16one. I am just reading tributes and tweets. There's always that denial that
- 4:23you know, your point out, doctor Trey. It's like this has to
- 4:25be at work, this can't be really. I mean, he's thirty six
- 4:28years old. I just saw the video of his father, Mike Rotunda irs
- 4:31ermanar scheister at a comic con of sorts, and they're asking about how Bray
- 4:36White's doing and he said he'll be back sooner rather than later. There were
- 4:41reports, you know, this month that he was dealing with not only a
- 4:45career threatening issue, but a life threatening issue, and then this happens towards
- 4:49the end of the month, and it's just was like a fog Sean Sapp
- 4:54of Fightful Select reported that the Rotunda family wanted it to be known that at
- 5:00bray Wyatt had gotten COVID back in March, you know, they were setting
- 5:05up the match with he and Bobby Lashty for Wressellmania, and then bray White
- 5:09just magically disappeared from television and people were pointing, well, it's because Vince's
- 5:13back. And then we come to find out that it was a health issue,
- 5:15and then very much clarified that it was COVID and that this COVID had
- 5:19ascerated aspirated heart issues for bray Wyatt, Windham Rotunda. And then there's a
- 5:27story out today or yesterday from TMZ that reported that bray White had gone to
- 5:32a cardiologist or a doctor of some sort on the morning of his passing.
- 5:36They'd given him reportable defibrillator. He unfortunately was not wearing it. Nobody knows
- 5:43if it would have saved his life that day or not, but it was
- 5:46left in his truck. According to police reports, Joe Joe thought it was
- 5:51strange that he was out for a good hour or so. I think it
- 5:56was past his alarm going off. And then by the time they got there,
- 5:59he was passed. Everything's just like, very very shocking. It's a
- 6:04numb feeling. As wrestling fans, unfortunately, we've grown accustomed to this.
- 6:11I immediately when these things happened, I immediately think of how I felt and
- 6:16the day that was when I found out Owen Hart passed away, that was
- 6:18during the live pay per view, how I felt for days after Eddie Garrell
- 6:24passed away, how I felt for a very small window of time when Chris
- 6:27ben Wat passed away, and then obviously when those details got a little bit
- 6:31more clarified, it was, you know, then a weirder numb feeling.
- 6:38And then most recently Brodie Lee John Hubert passed away, it was very similar
- 6:41feeling. And here we are Bray Wyatt and it's like, man, you
- 6:46gotta be kidding me, Like he's gone. And the comforting thing and post
- 6:51all this Doctor Trey outside of favorite matches promos, how he made us feel
- 6:57when he was on the microphone or in the ring, or as a character
- 6:59in general, is all the nice things that the people in the world of
- 7:01professional wrestling have shared over the last couple of days. That's kind of how
- 7:05I've gotten through. It seems like he was a very wholesome, real kind
- 7:14individual, and I'm just sad about the entire thing. I really don't like
- 7:18doing these shows, but I feel like we owe it to our listeners into
- 7:21one another therapy wise in a way, to discuss a passing like this,
- 7:27when someone's so instrumental throughout the entire time and his time and professional wrestling,
- 7:31something that we've covered the entire time here on SRTU is is now no longer
- 7:35with us. At such a very young age, He's a year younger than
- 7:39me, thirty six years old. Kind of makes you think puts puts life
- 7:42in perspective a little bit. Yeah, Like I'm forty six, I'm ten
- 7:47years older than Bray Wyatt, and you know, I got Sammy running around
- 7:54the house, I have, you know, my other kids, and all
- 7:58of that stuff kind of kicked in my head and you know, it's it's
- 8:01weird in a way, like, you know, we lost Terry Funk the
- 8:03day before, and you know, being the older guy that I am,
- 8:09like I remember Terry Funk from growing up in roadhouse and all those things.
- 8:13But you know, seventy years old had a full life. You know,
- 8:18we see some other guys the Iron Sheet. You guys like that passed me.
- 8:20Ever this year, it's a different feeling when it's somebody in their sixties
- 8:26and seventies and eighties as opposed to somebody in the in the prime of their
- 8:30life. And you know this, this one hit me probably harder than any
- 8:35other one since Eddie grow outside of Tracy smothers because of my bond with Tracy.
- 8:41But like it just it's shocking to the system. It just kind of
- 8:46floors you in a lot of ways. And it's just like, you know,
- 8:50like I skipped SmackDown, I didn't watch SmackDown. I perfectly stayed away
- 8:54from Twitter and everything else for a few days just because I kept hoping against
- 9:01hope that it was something else, you know, But like you said,
- 9:07like it's somebody who you know, with Bray we had heard at times,
- 9:13not that it's hard to work with things, very passionate about his character and
- 9:18what he was doing. And you know, every now and then, you
- 9:20know, somebody ruffles a feather, and I kept waiting for that one for
- 9:26lack of better and that one asshole to come out and say something or you
- 9:31know, like somebody and you're right, like everybody has said such great things
- 9:35about him, and not just the performer or but just like feed to be
- 9:41behind the scenes helping helping me out. The story about Becky Lynch saying that,
- 9:46you know, the day she had her TLC match with with Alexa Bliss,
- 9:50and neither of them knew how to set the table properly, and and
- 9:54Bray was out there the entire show, like before the show, showing them
- 9:58how to properly set the tab able up and do all those things. And
- 10:01you know, you just hear these like gracious stories about what kind of person
- 10:05he was. It on one hand, it makes you feel good about the
- 10:11life he led, but then it just makes you feel awful that we lost
- 10:16a really good person. And in today's society, in today's world, those
- 10:20are getting harder and harder to find. So to lose somebody so creative and
- 10:26such a good person at such a young age is it's devastating. And the
- 10:31only solace you can take from it is you know, he's always videos forever
- 10:37the Internet forever, Like you can go now and see whatever you want.
- 10:43I mean literally, like the other day, I was, like yesterday,
- 10:46I was at the day off, and I was just kind of unwinding and
- 10:48trying to avoid stuff. And I watched a special on you know, one
- 10:52of the older specials on FCW, and I'm watching in there talking about all
- 10:58the stuff from FFCW, and all of a sudden, I see Appointment talking
- 11:00about the Dusty Rhodes promo classes and you see Seth rollas pop up and he's
- 11:05like, yeah, there was one guy that just got it better than anybody
- 11:07else. It was Bray White. And they started seeing old clips of bray
- 11:11There's Bray and there's Brody Lead right behind him, and Brace doing his promos
- 11:16in front of the class in the Bray White character, and You're just like,
- 11:20guy, it was just so beautiful. So it's it's a little bit
- 11:22of solace knowing that it's not one of those things were like, you know,
- 11:26you passing away with a young kid and there's nothing other than pictures to
- 11:30remember you buy you know with his kids that there's a video and there's gonna
- 11:35be stuff forever that talks about what a great man their father was. What
- 11:39was your favorite time period of Bray White you had, now, Craig me
- 11:45if I'm wrong here, because I feel like I remember this during the period
- 11:46of time when we were doing this during the show. But like you were,
- 11:50you were watching NXD before it was on the network. It was on
- 11:52Hulu or something, right, I forget what it was. I might have
- 12:00at Hulu before Hulu became what Hulu is now. I remember you saying when
- 12:03bray Why like was about to debut, and I think he immediately feud with
- 12:07Kane heading into SummerSlam that year. Like people, there was a buzz already
- 12:13on the internet, but you were watching NXT and and you were, you
- 12:18were behind that bus on on brey Why before he ever debuted on on the
- 12:20main moroster right, Yeah, I'm not why. At that point, I
- 12:26was working a show here in Alabama, and I was trying to reinvent my
- 12:30character and I was stealing directly. I was gonna I was gonna bring up
- 12:35the influence he had on you. Like there's a there's a promo actually just
- 12:39popped up on my Facebook feed not too long ago where I was sitting on
- 12:41a beach in Florida and I'm doing the bray Why voice and and you would
- 12:46wear it for Dora too, right, Yeah, I've worned for Dora's I've
- 12:50worned Hawaiian shirts like i've we did where we did, IWA mids South.
- 12:56We did the tryout show about a year after that, and I literally did
- 13:00a bray Wyatt character as a manager. Uh, like the guy was and
- 13:05you know you and I've joked with you for shoot Jeff almost almost a decade
- 13:09and a half. Now, I root for chubby guys as a guy who
- 13:13was, you know, been chubby his entire life. You find a charismatic
- 13:18chubby guy. Yeah, I'm root for that guy. And that was our
- 13:20affinity, my affinity for Kevin Owns, my affinity for Bray White and just
- 13:26how charismatic he was. And uh that that video I referenced that that thing
- 13:33on a peacock, Like Sasha and Charlotte were talking about it and they're like
- 13:37half the time, you didn't know what he was talking about, but you're
- 13:39like, dude, whatever he's talking about him in And that's how I felt
- 13:43watching him in n xt FCW when that transition was taking place, Like I
- 13:48didn't know half the stuff he was saying, but it was just so captivating
- 13:52and enthralling, and you're just like I bought in day one. I bought
- 13:56into the bray Wyatt character. I thought I was so unique and so different,
- 14:00even though people were like, you know, it was kind of a
- 14:03take on the Wayland Mercy character. But Bray he just made it his own
- 14:09and just did it in a way that was so different, unique, And
- 14:11I kept waiting for that called the main rosters. I knew he'd be even
- 14:15bigger on the main roster stage than he was an Excy just because of production
- 14:20in the size of the crowd, not knowing he would ever get to the
- 14:24level that he eventually got to. So back to the question there of what
- 14:28time period of Bray Wyatt did you enjoy the most. You have the debut
- 14:31of the Wyatt family and his couple of years in there in the beginning where
- 14:35he's you know, wrestling John Cena at WrestleMania thirty and then at thirty one
- 14:39he's wrestling the Undertaker. Then there's that time period where in my I'm trying
- 14:46to think here where it was Okay, so WrestleMania thirty two he's in the
- 14:50ring with the Rock in a segment, and then Rock takes on Eric Rowan
- 14:54at thirty three. Is the SmackDown time period where Bray wins Thewich Champion Chip
- 15:01he's got Brodie Lee, Luke Harper and Randy Orton in the Wyatt family with
- 15:07him, and then Randy turns on him, lights the house on fire.
- 15:11Then they have a match at WRESTLEMANI thirty three at thirty four is I'm doing
- 15:15it via WrestleMania. There's the time period where he is with Woken Matt Hardy
- 15:20for a little bit, then he's off television for a period of time.
- 15:24He returns as the Fiend. You've got that Fiend era the Firefly feon House.
- 15:30Then he gets released and then he returns most recently less than a year
- 15:33ago. I believe it was October of last year, in a very triumphant,
- 15:39amazing return with a great build up. He returns with that character.
- 15:43Then unfortunately, that character obviously does not last long on television because he is
- 15:46off TV by late February. I think really one of the last times he
- 15:50had cut a promo in the ring heading into elimination Chamber, letting the winner
- 15:56of brock Lessner and Bobby Lashley know that they were going to be he wouldn't
- 16:00meet them at Russellman. He had Then they did a little segment on Raw
- 16:03I think afterwards with Bobby Lashley of doing the muscle Man dance, and then
- 16:07we did not see Bray Wyatt until you know, the news broke out of
- 16:11his passing last week. So what is what is your favorite Bray Wyatt time
- 16:17period? So there's two for me and one is pre Sammy and one's post
- 16:22say so I'm kind of torn yourself. I'm talking about your son, just
- 16:26to clarify, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So the early NXT
- 16:32stuff was so good and so experimental and like the stuff with the rocking chairs
- 16:41and all that stuff, and it was just you kind of you know,
- 16:44you and I joke or you and not talking about like it's NX. He
- 16:47was finding Metallica before Metallica hit it big, and that's why I felt with
- 16:49bray Whitt was like, oh my god, this is like the coolest thing
- 16:52ever and nobody knows about it again and just waiting for it to kind of
- 17:00off, you know. And honestly, I can't even remember really any of
- 17:03the feuds they had an NXT, Like the Wyatt family was there and they
- 17:07were kind of getting mixed up with different things, but there was never one
- 17:10of those big, long out feuds that you know, we see guys get
- 17:15into later on, but that character was so unique and so different, and
- 17:19the presentation inside you know, full Sale with that crowd was just amazing.
- 17:26And the entrance music, like everything about that fit. The entrance music was
- 17:30so different than anything else we had heard post Sammy. It was the Firefly
- 17:34Funhouse because even that character. I mean, the first time we saw the
- 17:37Firefly Funhouse, you and I say on the show and like went like,
- 17:40what the hell was that? Yeah? Yeah, we had no idea what
- 17:44that was going to be. And it was crazy because I think Sammy was
- 17:49about a year and a half old, and every time that music would hit,
- 17:55he would stop whatever he was doing and watch the TV. Did not
- 17:59matter he was playing with toys or eating dinner, and it didn't matter.
- 18:03I could pull it up on YouTube that song is Who's that song would hit,
- 18:07he would stop everything in absolutely be engrossed watching bray Wyatt. And it
- 18:12made me, as a dad kind of like happy because I'm like, oh,
- 18:15this is something we can bond over down the road. So but to
- 18:22me, those two characters, those two versions of bray Wyatt, were so
- 18:26unique and so different from anything else we had seen on TV that it just
- 18:33it captivated me. I mean, could you imagine if the like we always
- 18:36Bray Whittet always kind of compared to the Undertaker, if the Undertaker had an
- 18:38altered ego where he was like the actual like if he was actually doing the
- 18:42If he had the Paul bar gimmick as an alter ego where he was like
- 18:48the super clean cut director of a funeral home, and then the Undertaker was
- 18:52was altered a gimmick, we would have lost we would have lost our minds.
- 18:53And that's kind of what Bray did with that Firefly Funhouse Fiend combination.
- 19:00So those two characters was just so uniquely different from anything else we had seen
- 19:04on TV that it's hard for me to kind of pick a side there.
- 19:07Yeah, it's very difficult to find like a time period of Bray's character that
- 19:11you enjoy the most. But there, for me, I got to go
- 19:17back to that SmackDown error when Hero Brody, Lee, Luke Harper and Randy
- 19:22Orton had like this reformed Wyatt family, because that was one of the first
- 19:27times in a while in w Wheat that they had like this slow build angle.
- 19:33It always felt like Randy Orton would turn on Bray Wyatt and it took
- 19:38forever for that to happen. They wanted a tag team championship at one point
- 19:44at the TLC show that Becky Lynch talks about. Then the Elimination Chamber match
- 19:48happens, Bray wins the title and then that heads into WrestleMania because Randy had
- 19:52won the Royal Rumble that year and that match was okay. It had some
- 20:00strange moments, like like I think like a spider was squshed on the mat.
- 20:04Remember the mat like took over as this like horror movie screen that was
- 20:11so cool, and it kind of rebooted Randy Orton. Like Orton was one
- 20:15of the top like and I don't mean this in a sense of good guy
- 20:18but faces of the company. Like promotionally and strategically, he was one of
- 20:25the top stars of the company. He took a back seat to the Bray
- 20:27Wyatt character, and it was completely different from what we're used to because Randy
- 20:32Orton would always be out in front, whether it be Evolution or legacy.
- 20:37It was he was always kind of a centerpiece and he was a bit player
- 20:41in the new formed Wyatt family. And that was when they had just did
- 20:45the brand extension again. And for a very brief period of time, like
- 20:48SmackDown, Raw were really cool because they were different and that had a new
- 20:52different feel to it, and it was really enjoyable. And then the second
- 20:56thing was was the Fiend. I've watched the tribute video that aired on SmackDown
- 21:02and also aired on Raw this past Monday, the music video captivating his entire
- 21:07career in life, and there's the part where it shifts to the Firefly fun
- 21:15House phenare and just the subtle things that they would do. It was so
- 21:19hilarious and so funny, and bray White had such great, great comedic timing,
- 21:25whether if he was one that made the point to do these types of
- 21:27things or to or if a writer was doing it. No matter what,
- 21:32it was executed to perfection. And there's this brief cut of the Firefly fun
- 21:37House. He's waving and I think it's either Huskus the pig or the rabbit
- 21:44is holding up a sign that says help, and he slowly pushes it down,
- 21:47laughing and then waving, and it was like that type of stuff.
- 21:51I watched it and I was like, man, I just remember how entertaining
- 21:55the Firefly fun House was. It would make you laugh. It would make
- 21:59you feel like like creepy, like you had bugs crawling on you. And
- 22:04it was just ahead of its time. And that's the thing. We've talked
- 22:10about it here time and time again. I said it in the beginning of
- 22:12the show. The selfish part of this all is that one of the most
- 22:18creative lights in professional wrestling history has slowly dimmed down in the past week,
- 22:26and that is heartbreaking. The selfish side is where were things going upon his
- 22:33return to w w WE. Where were things supposed to go after the realm?
- 22:37But where were things supposed to go following elimination chamber? Like we're missing
- 22:41that he was silenced by a disease and then silenced in his passing, and
- 22:48we have the memories forever, but it's like the what ifs. You can't
- 22:52sit there and go and not think about the what ifs, Like what was
- 22:56the direction supposed to be? We had read so much right Exa Bliss was
- 23:00starting a turn. W WE had resigned Eric Young and there's been whispers that
- 23:03he was supposed to be involved in some degree with whatever Bray Wyatt was doing.
- 23:08I believe Vincent and Dutch who are now in roh Or a w however
- 23:14you want to look at it. Were kind of rumored to be coming into
- 23:18the company as well to work with Bray Wyatt, and it's just I love
- 23:23to see a good comeback. And his release back in twenty twenty was awful
- 23:30and something that all wrestling fans could agree on was should not have happened.
- 23:36And that sucked that he was away from w for that long. And then
- 23:41he finally made the return. Triple H is back in charge, and it's
- 23:44like we're getting way back and we're getting this opportunity to see what's next for
- 23:48him, and it just yeah, it just doesn't doesn't take place, and
- 23:56it's just hard. It's hard from a wrestling perspective to see someone creative,
- 24:00so creative gone, and it's so sad from a human perspective to see someone
- 24:06so genuinely loved and adored a father, a significant other, a brother,
- 24:11a son, a friend like gone like this so young. I mean,
- 24:18that's the thing, Doctor Trey is just like so young. It resonates with
- 24:22guys like you and I because you know, we get these moments in our
- 24:26lives where life is put in perspective, and this is one of those moments.
- 24:29In professional wrestling and in life where it kind of sits you on your
- 24:33ass for a good couple of days and you self reflect, and you reflect
- 24:37in general. You think about everything that his family and friends are going through
- 24:41right now, and then you think about your own life and how things are
- 24:45right now, and in an instance, you could be on top of the
- 24:48world like Bray why it was, and a snap of the fingers you could
- 24:51be gone. And it's just it's a sad day. It's been a sad
- 24:55week. It's been a tough week for professional wrestling. I know there's a
- 25:00lot of things celebrated with all elite wrestling, I know, celebrating the life
- 25:04of Terry Funk, celebrating the life of Bray Wyatt. But obviously we're not
- 25:11lying to you. Where I wish we weren't sitting here today, going up,
- 25:14Let's have the Bray Wyatt tribute Shell, Let's get one of the books
- 25:15before we sit down and recorded this week's episode tomorrow and then make it available
- 25:22for download. It's just it stinks. It's I don't know. I just
- 25:29don't think there will never It's easy to say when someone passes doctor Trey,
- 25:33but I think it's safe to say there will never be another Bray Watt and
- 25:36professional wrestling now. When I was listening to what you're saying there and you
- 25:41talked about how ahead of his time he was, and I don't even think
- 25:47that he was ahead of his time. I think he was just on a
- 25:49different level than when anybody else creatively could come up with because I mean like,
- 25:56because of him, really, we started getting into the cinematic matches.
- 26:00I mean, you go back to the the was the House of Horrors match
- 26:04with him and Randy Orton that was ahead of its time, you know,
- 26:07like and then all of a sudden, because the pandemic, we had to
- 26:10do more of it. I saw somebody tweet out this week that the match
- 26:15with him and John Cena WrestleMania, the cinematic one they did, it was
- 26:18the only interesting thing John Seen has done in the last ten years, you
- 26:22know, And I'm like, that's I mean, he was he was including
- 26:23Sena's movies, and I was just like, it's kind of kind of a
- 26:27shot. But I was like, in a way, he was right,
- 26:30Like, you know, we got to see a John Cena heal in that
- 26:36match, Like what would have happened if it had gone that row, Like
- 26:40all these questions that we've had over the years about have seen it got answered
- 26:44in that match in a sense, and it was just so crazy and delightful
- 26:48at the same time. And you know, just I would say about this
- 26:52week, I'm like, I don't want to I'm hoping at some point somebody's
- 26:59able to kind of come out and lay out what we were going to get.
- 27:03Now. I know we're not gonna get you know, we're not gonna
- 27:06find out like what we're gonna do ten years from now, but just just
- 27:08what was the plan for the Wyatt six or whatever it was? Because I
- 27:12still remember that the Mountain Dew Pitch Black match, and I saw some may
- 27:17people are hating on that match, and I still I went back and watched
- 27:19it yesterday and I was like, I still really enjoyed that, Like it
- 27:23was cool and it was different. And then the ending segment, you know
- 27:27when you see all the Wyatt family characters like kind of looking down, you
- 27:33know, You're like, oh, man, where is this going? I
- 27:34mean, even going back to you know, the rumble, you know,
- 27:38and seeing the characters around the ring and then the crowd and everyone else,
- 27:42I'm like, where were they going with it? Remember you and I said,
- 27:45are going who do you think was that guy? Who do you think
- 27:47that guy was? Or who do you think that guy was? Or who
- 27:48do you think sister Abigail was. It's like the intrigue into it all,
- 27:53Like, I mean, you and I were still going on. I think
- 27:56Husks a joke acy, I think Rambling Rabbit were I think Mercy the Buzzard
- 28:00was Grayson Waller and like that was a thing. And then even when I'll
- 28:03call Howdy debut and we're like, is that bow Dallas? I think it's
- 28:06bow Dallas. Maybe it's not bow Dallas. Like all of these things tying
- 28:10in just to it's kind of like you only got half the movie, you
- 28:15know, even if it's a you know, like Marvel movie post credit scene,
- 28:19just let me know where we're going with this, because it was because
- 28:23right now, I think the hardest part about this, and it's similar to
- 28:26Eddie and similar to Owen, is there's no closure on it. And from
- 28:30a character standpoint, there's no closure. I mean, you go back to
- 28:33this with Eddie Graw like we were. There was rumors that we're gonna get
- 28:37Eddie Gramer Shawn Michael's match at a WrestleMania, you know, and how much
- 28:41that sucks Owen Hart, you know, where that was going and Bray being
- 28:45arguably the most creative performer in the history of our business, Like where was
- 28:51where was this buying going with stuff? You know? And how is all
- 28:55this gonna play out? Like I hope we kind of get something down the
- 28:59line where we can kind of go, Okay, that would have been beautiful
- 29:03and we can kind of play it out in our mind's eyes where just to
- 29:06kind of get that little bit of closure on the end, because it just
- 29:10sucks on so many levels right now. And you mentioned earlier like taking stock
- 29:15it was ironic they brought the COVID stuff And I have talked about you off
- 29:19air before, like I'm still blown away that in what the three and a
- 29:22half years of I've never gotten COVID thank God? Right, Yeah, And
- 29:27you know everybody knows how much I travel, Like if anybody was frightening to
- 29:32get it, it would have been me. It. I just talked with
- 29:34my wife out the near day is like I can't believe I haven't gotten it
- 29:37yet, you know, And then all of this comes out and you know,
- 29:41like two of my friends are battling the new straight of COVID right now,
- 29:45and I lost a friend of mine, you know, to COVID,
- 29:48you know, right in the middle of the pandemic that was a diehard wrestling
- 29:51fan and you left behind it, you know, a couple of young kids,
- 29:53and it's like, yeah, it makes you take stock of everything in
- 29:57your life when something like this happens from somebody who you admire and look up
- 30:03to, and you almost because of the way wrestling is now, you almost
- 30:07feel like that you're a part of their life, even though you're like,
- 30:10you feel differently connected to a brave wyat uh you know, a professional wrestler
- 30:14than you do an NFL player, a baseball player, like you know,
- 30:18the stuff with Damar Hamlin last year, Like I felt bad for the guy,
- 30:21but it didn't it didn't hurt me. It didn't hit me. This
- 30:25hurts. This hit me hard because I think we just have a different look
- 30:30into their lives they would do any other celebrity or athlete out there in the
- 30:33world today, Wrestling is its own separate dy that we bond to closer,
- 30:38Like we talk about wrestling me in a soap opera. I didn't cry with
- 30:44any of my soap opera characters that I love, Diet Victor Kuriakis, you
- 30:47know, Jennifer Hanson is at it felt bad for her, didn't like get
- 30:49upset, didn't you know people like I grew up watching for forty years with
- 30:53my grandmother. It didn't hurt me. Like when guys like that, when
- 30:57this happens at guys like or Eddie or Owen or even go back to Cherry
- 31:02von Eric, you know those guys and that you know Liz even Ultimate Waire,
- 31:07Like you're just like, man like, how much more did they have
- 31:10to contribute to the business that we all love, not just characterwise, but
- 31:15also on a personal level, you know, going forward, I mean we
- 31:18see all these guys out of the independent scenes. You're doing autograph signings and
- 31:22things like that, and you can go up and you can talk to Alex
- 31:23Luder, you can talk to you know, a Stargist Slaughter. You can
- 31:26actually form a connection with these guys. Now, you get you don't do
- 31:30that with star athletes, but wrestling is its own different entity, and we
- 31:34fill a closeness in a bond to these people that we see on TV in
- 31:37multiple times a week. I think you said it very very perfectly. There.
- 31:44There's not much more I can add. I mean, you learn about
- 31:45these people more than you learn about any other actor, actress, sports figure,
- 31:52what have you anybody that you look up to, or anybody that you
- 31:56watch it In an entertainments aspect, you know more about them than anyone.
- 32:00You know about their trials and their tribulations, you know about their struggles.
- 32:07In the case of Windham Rotuna, he started out as Husky Harris on NXT,
- 32:10was with Nexus, and then he was sent back down to developmental to
- 32:15find a new character. I remember reading about him toying with his new character.
- 32:21I think he wore like this Hannibal Lecter mask, and then this character
- 32:23started catching fire and there was this buzz around him, and then he came
- 32:28on the main roster and you watched him grow and become this amazing superstar we
- 32:32champion. You get behind these people more than anywhere else in the world.
- 32:37Because I don't know, it's what makes wrestling special to me. It's the
- 32:43reason why I feel so much more connected than any other entertainment form and why
- 32:49when I watch Sammy Zane and Kevin Owens hold of the tag team Champion to
- 32:52close out wrestle MANI this past year that I feel just as accomplished as they
- 32:58do, because twelve years ago I watched them in a thousand seat arena in
- 33:04the Manhattan Center in New York City, tearing it up as Kevin Stein and
- 33:07al jan Erico. We connect with professional wrestlers more than you would in any
- 33:12other type of entertainment value. I mean, if an athlete passes away today,
- 33:16the likelihood of me knowing what their trials and tribulation and their struggles were
- 33:21to climb the charts into who they became or their families is probably pretty slim
- 33:29to none. But I immediately thought of Bray Wide and his family, his
- 33:34connections to his father Mike Rotunda, his brother Bo Dallas, his girlfriend Joe
- 33:39Joe Offerman, and his children. Like it's the same exact thing that I
- 33:44thought of when John Hubert passed away Brodie Lee Luke Harper, Like, I
- 33:47immediately thought about his children because I had watched this little ten minute clip on
- 33:53WA Network about like before he became a superstar and him talking about the importance
- 33:59of of being a role model for his kid in Luke Harper. So it's
- 34:02it's a really that's what makes it a very beautiful and poetic entertainment form.
- 34:07And that's why the connection that diehard wrestling fans have with the superstars and the
- 34:14shows and the organizations and the promotions and everything in between is oh so very
- 34:19special. And it's tough. It's a tough day. It's a tough week
- 34:23for professional wrestling fans. It's a tough week profession and wrestling to lose somebody
- 34:28so young in bray Wyatt, Doctor Trey. I think to wrap up this
- 34:34this tribute show, how does Bray Wyte or how do you want bray Wyatt
- 34:42Windham Rotunda to be remembered? That's a that's a fantastic question because it does
- 34:49kind of feel like we talked about Oh, we talked about Eddie. You
- 34:53know, Eddie Hitry had twenty years in the business, Ohol had, Alveray
- 34:58had twenty. I mean, these guys had long careers, you know.
- 35:02And then we mentioned you know, Brodie Leeve's last John Hubert and although it
- 35:08hurt, he really hadn't ascended to that next level where Eddie Owen were and
- 35:15then you obviously were braves with Bray. It just feels like it was cut
- 35:20short like it was like there's so much one, there's so much more meat
- 35:22on the bone. But for me, I think I just want Brady Wide
- 35:28to be remembered as you know, maybe the most creative mind we've ever come
- 35:34across and professional wrestling. The way he could articulate an envision where he wanted
- 35:42his characters to go is something we've never seen before. And to have the
- 35:46guts and are in the balls to take risks beyond anything else and we've never
- 35:52seen. And I mean obviously just a good person, a great man,
- 35:57a great father. I mean I don't know about you watch in the SmackDown,
- 36:00like watching the start of the show and watching I was just talking about
- 36:04this earlier today watching Brounze drum and breakdown. Like to see a guy who's
- 36:07six foot ten three or fifty pounds like just break down because that was his
- 36:13best friend. You know, it's like it's just so hard. But for
- 36:16you know, to me, like I said, Bray Wyatt was the most
- 36:21creative mind we have ever seen come across professional wrestling in my lifetime. And
- 36:25I hope people remember him that way. Yeah, even the Becky Lynch the
- 36:30clothes to raw on Monday night with her holding up the arm pan and just
- 36:32breaking down crying. I felt like was a representation of all of us.
- 36:37It was culmination of the past couple of days, and her emotion is what
- 36:43every wrestling fan and wrestler felt, what the world of professional wrestling felt.
- 36:46And losing somebody so young, so amazing, so creative, so bright,
- 36:52so energetic, so kind in Windham, roetun and bray Wyatt. I will
- 36:57remember him as one of not the most creative mind in the world professional wrestling.
- 37:02He took something that can be so repetitive and mundane and that you've seen
- 37:07time and time again, whether it's over a five year span you see something
- 37:12that is similar or a ten year span, and he spun it around and
- 37:16created a world and created a character of some things that we never saw before.
- 37:22Whenever you thought bray White's character and storyline was going to go left,
- 37:25it went right. And it was so beautiful, it was so entertaining,
- 37:30It was so much fun to watch, and I wish we weren't saying these
- 37:36words, but it's just a complete thank you to everything that he did and
- 37:40brought to our joy and entertainment throughout his entire career. So we wanted to
- 37:49get this episode in the books. We wanted to share our thoughts about bray
- 37:52White, We wanted to give it enough time so that we could give our
- 37:58thoughts and feelings about the entire situation and not feel like there was a time
- 38:01crunch to cover anything from the past week. So we'll get to the world
- 38:06of professional wrestling tomorrow the next time an episode drops here for SRTU. But
- 38:13it was important to get this this show out there, Doctor Trey, There's
- 38:15there's something I want to read that I feel like it is the perfect way
- 38:20to wrap up this show. But before we close up shop on this week's
- 38:24edition of of SRTU, is there anything you would like to add in regard
- 38:30to bray Wyatt. I mean really from I mean you mentioned his family and
- 38:37you know, not to mention like his uncle Barry Wyndham. Obviously he's still
- 38:40out there as well, But I mean some one of the things like when
- 38:45something of this happens, this is reminded like not to take life for granted,
- 38:50to tell the people in your life how you feel about them whenever you
- 38:52have the chance. You know, today's I saw it some today, like
- 38:59anybody who die today had plans for tomorrow. Anybody who died this morning had
- 39:01plans for tonight. You know those instances where it's like, man, just
- 39:07let everybody know around you how much you value them, appreciate them, love
- 39:12them, because you never want to leave anything unsaid. You know when it's
- 39:15your time, So just take that to heart. Tell like, hug your
- 39:20kids, hug your family, tell them all you love them. Like,
- 39:22oh, those things kind of come back to the forefront when something like this
- 39:29happens and we have to put you know, wrestling and work and everything else
- 39:34kind of on the back burner and just go you know what, man,
- 39:36I love you. I mean you, and I like you, and I
- 39:37joke off the airlock like we've been on that we've been We've been together longer
- 39:42than two of my marriages combined. You know, I've known you since before
- 39:47you met your girlfriend. Yep. Like we're we're an old married couple.
- 39:51And I value and appreciate and you know, love everything you and I have
- 39:55done for twelve years. If I haven't told you that, I want you
- 39:59to know that quest front for all of our listeners that tune in every single
- 40:04week, Like we value and appreciate everything you guys have done to us.
- 40:07You guys are our motivation to keep doing this show for seven hundred plus episodes.
- 40:14You know, like like you and I told you as far as I
- 40:16looked up, we are the second longest running wrestling podcast in the world that
- 40:23I that I could verify against. And honestly, I don't know if number
- 40:28one is even still around, so we may be number one. Who knows,
- 40:30But things like that put it in perspective that you know, those people
- 40:36that you value and appreciate, just let it, me know, just just
- 40:38get it out there, put in the world. It looks you might have
- 40:42the most cold hearted, redneck, toughest nail's friend and you tell them that
- 40:46they may blow you off. I guess what it's going to sink in And
- 40:49that way, if something happens, they know how you felt and they don't
- 40:52feel guilty about it. So just love your friends, love your neighbors,
- 40:55love your kids. Just put it all out there into the ethos and let
- 40:59it go. It's a perfect way to end the show. Their doctor Trey
- 41:02with some beautiful thoughts. So we close with something that is obviously made the
- 41:08rounds. Since bray Wyatt passed away, It's something he posted on Twitter and
- 41:14Instagram back in August of twenty twenty two, and I felt like it was
- 41:16the perfect way to sum up how we as wrestling fans feel about the world
- 41:23of professional wrestling and how the world of professional wrestling makes us feel. So
- 41:30we'll read this and then close up shop here on the show. Thank you
- 41:32all for for joining us, Thank you for allowing us these forty plus minutes
- 41:37to give our thoughts and feelings towards the tragic passing of Windimore Done and Bray
- 41:42Wyatt, and and thank you for you know, letting us share how we
- 41:47feel on this podcast today. It's it's therapeutic because it's been it's been tough
- 41:53to go through this, because it's it's not easy, obviously losing somebody so
- 42:00special and made people feel so good in the world of professional wrestling. So
- 42:04Windomton a road back in August twenty twenty two, and I quote, wrestling
- 42:08is not a love story. It's a fairytale for massachists, a comedy for
- 42:13people who criticize punchlines. Punchlines fantasy. Most can't understand a spectacle. No
- 42:17one can deny lines are blurred heroes or villains, budgets or cuts. Business
- 42:22is business, but it can also be a land where dead man walk,
- 42:27where honor makes you elite, where demons run for office, and rock bottom
- 42:31is a reason to rejoice. Woo. It's an escape, a reason to
- 42:37point to blame in anyone but yourself for two to three hours, an excuse
- 42:39to be a kid again, and nothing mad except the moment we are in
- 42:44Wrestling is not a love story. It's much more. It's hope and in
- 42:47a world surrounded and hate, greed and violence, a world where closure may
- 42:52never come, we all know a place that has hot and cold hope on
- 42:54tap for better or for worse. End quote. Thank you Bray Wyatt,
- 43:00Rest in peace, Windom Rotunda and uh until next time. Follow the buzzards.
- 43:20He's gone in news. He's gonna die in news. I I stop
- 43:49creating some kind of buzz here. Man, you won't see nothing yet.
- 43:57Feel a new face out here. Walk upon my side and I will lead
- 44:05you to clarodops. We're here. See about the dance and feel the magic
- 44:13on the floor. They try to save me at all stop, but they
- 44:20never cared in school. You never had the last time because he no shine
- 44:29he gave us everything and now you never in his mind. Yes, it
- 44:34is the firefly funhouse waiting no money over, no shall she must Yeah,
- 44:52because he was jail going world gold, now sunset and space between the shows.
- 45:10Never let it darkness. She couldn't down shine sees that a being the
- 45:15spa in the long I can truly say that I have the whole damns in
- 45:22the world in my head. I would like to welcome you all. Tuesday
- 45:35Hour rock if it's my favorite dew point the Shu great mother understood photograph.
- 45:54The resent in my mind was still together. Spear meet I and the color
- 46:15red. In a world for the black and white. I am the eater
- 46:21of worlds. I bray white, am forever you, and I can look
- 46:39all of you in the eyes and I can say thank you.