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Chuck & Buck 12-9 Hour 4: Rick Neuheisel, the Ol Judge and one last thing! · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: It's time to talk all things college football.
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  Speaker 2: It's just like the menu at Taco Time. You just
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  Speaker 2: can't get enough.
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  Speaker 3: You just can't get This is our weekly visit with
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  Speaker 3: Rick Neuheisel, brought to you by Taco.
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  Speaker 2: Time, not those new Heidels. Used to be a moniker
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  Speaker 2: of mine. I mean, just sell you out now.
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  Speaker 2: This is college football and I want you to get
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  Speaker 2: it all over yourself.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you right now.
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  Speaker 3: Ever since we had the privilege of being able to
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  Speaker 3: talk to Rick new Isel every single week of our
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  Speaker 3: lives during the football season, what nine years ago, I've
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  Speaker 3: been pumped every single week to talk to coach new Isel.
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  Speaker 1: But this week did a oh more.
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  Speaker 3: Ever, guess oh, I don't even know what to do
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  Speaker 3: with myself. Joining us now is our college football insider
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  Speaker 3: Rick new Isel.
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  Speaker 1: Hello, Sarah, how are you?
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  Speaker 2: I am? Well? That made me laugh, and yet in
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  Speaker 2: some form fashion sounded a little disturbing. I'm just going
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  Speaker 2: to let you.
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  Speaker 1: Know it is disturbing. Good.
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  Speaker 3: I kind of want to have that effect on people.
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  Speaker 3: I want to make you laugh, but walk away going
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  Speaker 3: what's wrong.
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  Speaker 1: With that guy?
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  Speaker 3: So all right, I'm just going to ask you. I'm
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  Speaker 3: not going to ignore this elephant in the room. Are
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  Speaker 3: you going to be the Washington State Cougar's head coach?
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  Speaker 2: I have no idea. I have not spoken to anybody
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  Speaker 2: from Washington State. There have been a number of alums
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  Speaker 2: that I've talked to. I've made a lot of friends
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  Speaker 2: over my lifetime, to Jack Thompson's of the world, the
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  Speaker 2: Mark Riffins of the world, the Drew Bloodshoe's of the world,
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  Speaker 2: and I've always admired greatly how much they love their school.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it is a it's a badge of honor
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  Speaker 2: to be a KUP, and so there's there's no question
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  Speaker 2: that there's great passion there. And I've made it clear
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  Speaker 2: that I'm miss coaching. There's no question about that. So
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  Speaker 2: if if an opportunity were present itself, I would certainly
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  Speaker 2: entertain it. I have not talked to anybody at the school.
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  Speaker 2: These things go by way of search firms and such,
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  Speaker 2: So I'll check in with you later if I got
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  Speaker 2: any news, but I don't have any today.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, well, then it sounds I mean that you kind
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  Speaker 4: of pretty much answered it. I mean you you missed coaching,
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  Speaker 4: so if the opportunity to present itself, you would gladly
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  Speaker 4: take it. If somebody here is hearing this from Wazoo
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  Speaker 4: right now and says, well, we've heard about that, but
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  Speaker 4: we didn't know for sure. If he's interested that you're
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  Speaker 4: interested in going to Pullman.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd be interested. And the other thing that's kind
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  Speaker 2: of attracted for me, And again, this would all have
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  Speaker 2: to be, you know, talked over, and I haven't had
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  Speaker 2: that opportunity to talk to anybody. I'd love to coach
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  Speaker 2: with my son and to have an opportunity for the
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  Speaker 2: two of us to collaborate in this kind of environment
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  Speaker 2: and put together approach. I've said this new PAC twelve
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  Speaker 2: that is going to begin next year with eight schools
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  Speaker 2: that all have state named after him. I can't believe
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  Speaker 2: All State Insurance hasn't decided how to sponsor this thing,
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  Speaker 2: because it is all states. That new conference is really
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  Speaker 2: exciting from a standpoint that you've got eight similarly resourced programs.
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  Speaker 2: It isn't like there's just the elephants in this room
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  Speaker 2: that are going to run the table. Kind of like
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  Speaker 2: James Madison is in the Sun Belt where they got
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  Speaker 2: more money than everybody else. Sounds to me like you've
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  Speaker 2: got eight schools at all, have a chance to coach
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  Speaker 2: hard and recruit hard and a chance to win, and
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  Speaker 2: that to me is appealing.
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  Speaker 1: I'd love it for you.
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  Speaker 3: Of course, you still have to come on with us
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  Speaker 3: every Tuesday at nine o'clock. Yes, yes, but I mean
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  Speaker 3: I envisioned the scenario, and I don't want to make
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  Speaker 3: you on comfortable.
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  Speaker 1: I envision in a scenario where.
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  Speaker 3: You coach the Kougs for a few years and then
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  Speaker 3: eventually it's handed off to your son and he becomes
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  Speaker 3: a staple there.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, that's That's what I as in my mind.
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  Speaker 3: Is is that anything that you I mean, are you
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  Speaker 3: entertaining that as well? I mean, not just working with
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  Speaker 3: your son, but maybe the new Heisel stamp gets put
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  Speaker 3: on that program for years to come.
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  Speaker 2: So the old saying in the country song you want
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  Speaker 2: to hear God laugh tell him your plans, right, So yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I don't. I don't think we can put the cart
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  Speaker 2: too far before the horse. I know this. I've loved
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  Speaker 2: college football and I miss it and the relationships daily.
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  Speaker 2: I get a heaping hunk of it doing what I do.
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  Speaker 2: And I love coming on with you guys. I love
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  Speaker 2: the CBS gig that I've enjoyed. Now this was my
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  Speaker 2: eleventh year. But if I'm going to make a run
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  Speaker 2: to coach one more time, the clock is ticking right.
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  Speaker 2: You can all see Marissa Tomay banging her foot on
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  Speaker 2: my cousin Vinny Ports there. So if it were to be,
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  Speaker 2: I think I'd be really excited about it. If not,
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  Speaker 2: I certainly understand.
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  Speaker 1: Rick new is Elissa with us.
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  Speaker 3: We have addressed the big question everybody wanted us to
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  Speaker 3: ask here this morning. I want you to get back
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  Speaker 3: and coaching because I can't wait for you to get
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  Speaker 3: angry about the committee snubbing you from the tournament.
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  Speaker 2: They played some dirty pool this last week.
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  Speaker 1: And I tell you who's got the reason. Who's got
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  Speaker 1: the right to be the angriest in all of this?
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  Speaker 2: Well, if we hadn't had six shows or five shows
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  Speaker 2: previous to the final one, no one has the right
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  Speaker 2: to be angry.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no one.
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  Speaker 2: But we did. We had five shows or six whatever
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  Speaker 2: the number was. Where they told us that Miami was
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  Speaker 2: better than or excuse me, Notre Dame was better than Miami.
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  Speaker 2: Despite the fact, and I said this many times on
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  Speaker 2: our little hits on Tuesdays, I don't see how.
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  Speaker 1: You do that.
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  Speaker 2: The records are the same, Miami beat them. But the
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  Speaker 2: fact that they did it, and they did it, and
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  Speaker 2: they did it and they did it again and then
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  Speaker 2: get to a week where neither team plays and flip
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  Speaker 2: them is dirty pool. That tells us some other operation
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  Speaker 2: was in play and you can't tell me just because
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  Speaker 2: by you lost. That's the first time we've compared the
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  Speaker 2: two schools. That doesn't make any sense. As a matter
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  Speaker 2: of fact, Hunter y'resix. The committee spokesperson said that they
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  Speaker 2: were involved in the same pool and they came up
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  Speaker 2: with the same solution that it was Notre Dame ahead
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  Speaker 2: of Miami. So at day's end to do that, at
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  Speaker 2: the end, I can see why you're If you're a
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  Speaker 2: Notre Dame fan, you're completely rankled. I can see why
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  Speaker 2: Pete Babokua and by the way, just really bad form
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  Speaker 2: for those two leaders, Jim Phillips and Pete Babakua, to
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  Speaker 2: be airing it out in public. That stuff should be
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  Speaker 2: happened internally with respect to what power is the ACC
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  Speaker 2: going to stump for their champion and or Miami as
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  Speaker 2: opposed to a notre dame, which is a huge, huge,
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  Speaker 2: valuable partner. Those things should have been ironed out, and
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  Speaker 2: unfortunately we got to see the dirty laundry.
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  Speaker 4: How about the hypocrisy, if you will, I mean, how
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  Speaker 4: do you reconcile the idea of an Alabama canilais and
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  Speaker 4: egg in the SEC championship game? And I don't know
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  Speaker 4: for sure how I feel about what type or how
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  Speaker 4: much uh how much that should count against you. It's
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  Speaker 4: an extra game that you know that you had to play,
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  Speaker 4: or you get to play, but you also have to
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  Speaker 4: play if you're on the losing end of it. And
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  Speaker 4: yet they don't move anywhere in the standings BYU shows
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  Speaker 4: basically one thing, they're not as good as Texas Tech.
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  Speaker 4: And that's the only thing that they've shown us that
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  Speaker 4: they're not better than so far. And yet they end
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  Speaker 4: up dropping a spot and can't find their way in either.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we've got a super two dilemma here. We've got
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  Speaker 2: the Big Ten and we've got the SEC and their
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  Speaker 2: conference championship games don't matter. I mean, Ohio State fell
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  Speaker 2: to number two. Alabama didn't even move despite looking woeful,
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  Speaker 2: and if you were doing an eye test, it would
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  Speaker 2: have been Notre Dame in Miami and in Alabama out.
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  Speaker 2: But the power of those conferences or such that they
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  Speaker 2: just kind of created a way for those games not
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  Speaker 2: to matter, which then leads us to wonder why are
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  Speaker 2: we playing them then? Because all those kid teams are
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  Speaker 2: doing are risking injury as they get ready for the playoffs,
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  Speaker 2: And I think what we're going to see is a
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  Speaker 2: play in game to replace the conference championship game, which
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  Speaker 2: will be much more fun to watch to see a Vanderbilt,
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  Speaker 2: you know, Texas, these teams that are just outside trying
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  Speaker 2: to get in a BYU having an opportunity to play
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  Speaker 2: their way in.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, now that you said, I kind of like that.
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  Speaker 3: I mean you still keep a twelve team format, but
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  Speaker 3: instead of conference championship week, maybe it's each team gets
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  Speaker 3: a representative from their conference and then they've just battle
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  Speaker 3: it out for a week to see phills.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah exactly.
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  Speaker 3: Rick new Eiel is with us, our college football insider
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  Speaker 3: from CBS Sports, of course, former U dub head coach,
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  Speaker 3: and we've already addressed at Koogs fans, We've already addressed
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  Speaker 3: it if you're just joining us his segment with us
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  Speaker 3: brought to you by Taco Time all year long. All right,
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  Speaker 3: So how quickly are they drafting up the new rules
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  Speaker 3: to try to keep from two group of five.
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  Speaker 1: Teams getting into the tournament? Ever?
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  Speaker 2: Again, I guarantee they're crafting something. But congratulations to Bob
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  Speaker 2: Chesney and James Madison and certainly to John Sumrall and
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  Speaker 2: Tulane for beating them again. It's amazing. You know, the
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  Speaker 2: group of five. It was Craig Thompson, who was the
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  Speaker 2: commissioner of the Mountain West, who was on that four
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  Speaker 2: man committee that nant came up with the twelve team format.
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  Speaker 2: And what he asked for was five champions, right, which
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  Speaker 2: guaranteed a group of five, And they gave it to him.
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  Speaker 2: And they said the four champions would be the top
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  Speaker 2: four seeds, which basically was appeasing the commissioners of the
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  Speaker 2: other four conferences, thinking of course that there will be
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  Speaker 2: the teams that'll be the best four. And yet last
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  Speaker 2: year it was Boise State from the Mountain West that
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  Speaker 2: got the buy. So they said, we can't do that anymore.
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  Speaker 2: We got to change that. So we've changed that. But
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  Speaker 2: in this year with the five champions still getting in.
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  Speaker 2: They went past the a CC, which might have been
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  Speaker 2: kind of a little bit wink wink, no, not in
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  Speaker 2: the committee room. Why Miami had to get in because
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  Speaker 2: it couldn't keep the ACC from getting anything, which would
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  Speaker 2: have been the case had that just been left with Duke,
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  Speaker 2: which had five losses.
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  Speaker 1: So what we have.
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  Speaker 2: Here is a failure to communicate, but to congratulations to
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  Speaker 2: the Dukes and to the green waves and fingers crossed
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  Speaker 2: that they play well, because it will be if they
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  Speaker 2: can play well and be representatives, then maybe we don't
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  Speaker 2: have to tweak it at all, and maybe we can
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  Speaker 2: give more access to the little guys.
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  Speaker 3: Well, now that you might be getting into the group
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  Speaker 3: of five, maybe we just do take a page out
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  Speaker 3: of cool hand.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, Oh my goodness, is that a thought bubble?
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  Speaker 3: And then so, oh yeah, we'll just take a page
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  Speaker 3: out of cool and Luke, whoever can eat the most
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  Speaker 3: hard boiled eggs, gets into.
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  Speaker 2: The Why did you have to say fifty fifty?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, how bad of a situation have they created?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, and Texas, you know to some degree you
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  Speaker 4: have two other losses outside of the first one against
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  Speaker 4: Ohio State, and yet they basically it feels like they're penalized.
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  Speaker 4: They've been playing good football as of late, and outside
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  Speaker 4: of that you know loss in Week one they that
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  Speaker 4: put them at to where they finish at nine to three.
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  Speaker 4: I mean it, did you just basically shoot the idea
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  Speaker 4: of having big time matchups in those first few weeks
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  Speaker 4: of preseason quote unquote that I call it is that
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  Speaker 4: just not going to happen anymore. Seeing is how the
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  Speaker 4: team that lost that finds themselves right on the outside
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  Speaker 4: looking in.
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  Speaker 2: Well, if you heard Stark talk on this subject, that's
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  Speaker 2: exactly what's going to happen. But I don't believe that
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  Speaker 2: that will be the case because I don't think televisions
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  Speaker 2: ours are.
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  Speaker 1: Going to let it happen.
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  Speaker 2: They're going to force the issue. And I think we're
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  Speaker 2: getting closer also to kind of like the NFL does,
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  Speaker 2: where your schedules are determined where you finish. I wouldn't
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  Speaker 2: be surprised to see an SEC one schedule in SEC
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  Speaker 2: two and on down the list as to where you're
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  Speaker 2: going to play, and who you're going to play and
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  Speaker 2: how many games on the road. I know athletic directors
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  Speaker 2: want control of the schedule so that they can get
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  Speaker 2: as many home games as possible, and even willing to
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  Speaker 2: purchase home games so for their fan bases. But I
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  Speaker 2: think we're getting closer that the television money is such
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  Speaker 2: that they're going to be in control of some of That've.
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  Speaker 3: Been saying it for years, decades, and finally it looks
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  Speaker 3: like it's about ready to happen. So I am all
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  Speaker 3: for that. I'm all about that. I want to get
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  Speaker 3: your take on this. I mean, I want to get
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  Speaker 3: to the Heisman and a little bit on Army Navy
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  Speaker 3: before we wrap up. But urban Meyer said during the
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  Speaker 3: Fox broadcast of the Big Ten Championship game that the
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  Speaker 3: job Kurt Signetti has done at Indiana is not just
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  Speaker 3: the greatest coaching job in the history of college football,
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  Speaker 3: it's the greatest coaching job in the history of sports.
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  Speaker 3: That's what he said on the Fox broadcast. Well, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I'm not expecting you to go that far, but your
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  Speaker 3: thoughts on what Segnetti has done.
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  Speaker 2: It is a combination of brilliant coaching and the perfect storm.
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  Speaker 2: It's a collision of a number of factors all coming
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  Speaker 2: together that allowed for a unbelievable transformation of a program.
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  Speaker 2: Two years ago, Indiana was the losingest program in the
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  Speaker 2: history of college football, the losingest by virtue of their
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  Speaker 2: toe tap victory over penn State. They now won enough
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  Speaker 2: games to put Northwestern as now the losingest program in
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  Speaker 2: the history of college football. The reason I bring that
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  Speaker 2: up is just to give you the idea that just
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  Speaker 2: two years ago they went and got this guy from
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  Speaker 2: James Madison who'd had a nice little career at some
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  Speaker 2: small schools Indiana Universe, City of Pennsylvania, I think Elon College.
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  Speaker 2: He had left Alabama three hundred thousand dollars contract at
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  Speaker 2: Alabama as an assistant coach to go be the head
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  Speaker 2: coach at Indiana University of Pennsylvania for one hundred and
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  Speaker 2: twenty and his wife said, go get your job back,
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  Speaker 2: and he tried, but he couldn't get it. So now
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  Speaker 2: he's the head coach and off he goes. He brings
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  Speaker 2: thirteen players with him from James Madison to Indiana, and
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  Speaker 2: they had a reasonable schedule. And again this is the
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  Speaker 2: perfect storm. Reasonable schedule, first year of twelve team playoff,
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  Speaker 2: and they capture the imagination of the country losing only
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  Speaker 2: one game, and that to Ohio State in Columbus. They
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  Speaker 2: get into the College Football Playoff. They get beat by
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  Speaker 2: Notre Dame, but an eleven two start. He now goes
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  Speaker 2: into transfer portal and finds a couple of pieces, Fernando Mendoza,
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  Speaker 2: who's the favorite now for the Heisman Trophy. He comes
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  Speaker 2: to place quarterback brilliantly. But they have got great x's
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  Speaker 2: and o's, which is where the coaching job comes in.
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  Speaker 2: And then they get another kind of favorable schedule. They
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  Speaker 2: win the one game on the road and then beat
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  Speaker 2: Ohio State in a game that really didn't matter, but
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  Speaker 2: for Indiana fans, having never been in that championship game,
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  Speaker 2: having not won a Big Ten championship in forever, this
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  Speaker 2: was huge stuff. And now they're going to the Rose Bowl.
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  Speaker 2: They're going to have a Heisman Trophy winner if Diego
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  Speaker 2: Pavia doesn't steal it, a Heisman Trophy winner, a Rose
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  Speaker 2: Bowl berth, and the number one seed after being the
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  Speaker 2: absolute basement program of all of college football. It's phenomenal.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no doubt about it. Who gets your Heisman vote.
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  Speaker 2: As much as I love Fernanda Mendoza, I cannot shake
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  Speaker 2: off this Diego Pavia and having got that. I this kid, listen,
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  Speaker 2: Clarkly he coached with me at UCLA, so I kind
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  Speaker 2: of helped Clark get going in this business. So I
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  Speaker 2: take great pride in his success. Vanderbilt had never had
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  Speaker 2: a ten win season in the history of their school, never,
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  Speaker 2: and they got the ten wins on the shoulders of
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  Speaker 2: this kid from New Mexico State who captured everybody's imagination
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  Speaker 2: a year ago when he said we got Vanderbilt turned
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  Speaker 2: as they carried the goalpost after beating Alabama into the
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  Speaker 2: Cumberland River. This is a remarkable kid, and he played
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  Speaker 2: his tail off down the stretch. So I'm here for diego,
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  Speaker 2: all right.
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  Speaker 3: So how much of cbls's coverage will be about Rick
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  Speaker 3: new Heisl's decision like a Lebron James situation here and
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: the Army Navy game this.
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  Speaker 2: Weekend, I can promise you it will not be about me.
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  Speaker 2: This is the absolute quintessential college game of the year
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  Speaker 2: for us. It is so fun and it means so
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  Speaker 2: much more than just what happens on the field, and
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  Speaker 2: you get down and you get to see these kids
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  Speaker 2: play with their hearts out, and when you get there,
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  Speaker 2: you realize they're not as big as Alabama. They're not
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  Speaker 2: as big as Ohio State. This as different and I'm
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  Speaker 2: not taking away from their athleticism or their competitive zeal.
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  Speaker 2: What I'm saying is these guys have made a commitment
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  Speaker 2: to our country and to our way of life, and
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  Speaker 2: that service kind of feel that they bring to the field.
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  Speaker 2: You can feel. And then you see the admirals and
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: the generals and what it means in terms of the
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: history of this game and the competitive nature of those
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: folks in theaters across the globe. I'm telling you, you
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: can't wait for that. Then all of a sudden we
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: get that aerial you know, circus of the flyovers and
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: the Blackhawk helicopters, and You're going, you know what, We're
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: on the right team. We got the right team here
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: in America. So I can't wait to be a part
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: of that telecast and tis every year. It's a bucket
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: list item.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: So Taco Time Pick of the Week. You have one
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: game to choose from, So who's taking it?
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: Listen?
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: My dad. We lost my dad a year in March,
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: late March. But he was an army man through and through.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: He was part of the Jag Corps, and I got
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: to in twenty nineteen, got to bring him to the game,
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: and he's supposed to leave the sideline after the pregame
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: and go up to his seats, and he said, no, no,
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: I'm fine right here. And he sat on the Army
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: bench the entire game and watched it on the video
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: board in Philadelphia, and I just laugh. I have pictures
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: of him. You're there with the Army mule and the
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: whole deal. So it's an honor for me to always
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: choose the Black Knights, and I'll look forward to see
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: and if they can get it done. They're a big
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: underdog here is Navy's been outstanding.
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: Well, thank you, sir, thank you for joining us. Thank
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: you for your candor. We appreciate it and uh and
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: we will be rooting for you and whatever makes you happy. Yes,
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: all right, all right, thank you have fun.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: Rick new Ile joining us right here on Chuck and
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: Buckets segment brought to you by Taco Time. All right,
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: coming up next, the old judge stops by on Sports
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: Radio ninety three point three kJ R f M is
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: in the courtroom.
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  Speaker 5: He's pointing up to the sky.
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: Ashley, you're supposed to stand, all right, all yeah, ma'am.
• 20:37
  Speaker 6: I mean I haven't yet. Why would I start, now
• 20:39
  Speaker 6: that's true. Yeah, I'm not going to start. Just decide
• 20:42
  Speaker 6: to show you respect. That would be you could you
• 20:45
  Speaker 6: guys think something happened.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: You get the bailiff? Yeah, take her down, cuff her.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: All right, well let's get to it. We're in a
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: little late.
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: So the old Judge I got a lot of juicy
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: topics to discuss. Here's how it works. I'm going to
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: bring up a topic of discussion. Ashley and I will
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: discuss it for a little bit. Once the old judge
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: is hurt enough and is ready to weigh in, he
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: will slam his gabble and then he will tell us
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: exactly what the rule is in his courtroom. And that's
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: where it goes. Yeah, gabble, shut your mouth.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the old judge's courtroom.
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: That's what he does.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: All right, here we go. Let's talk some Seahawks.
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: Nick Emon Worri, Yeah he's great, but Devin Witherspoon Spoon
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: is still the seahawks best player.
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: Oh, I don't know that is tough.
• 21:29
  Speaker 6: I mean, I think based on a lot of the
• 21:32
  Speaker 6: larger resume, you'd have to go with Devin Witherspoon. Obviously,
• 21:35
  Speaker 6: Nick emn Worey is very impressive and I've really enjoyed
• 21:38
  Speaker 6: watching him, and I think he has the potential to
• 21:41
  Speaker 6: be the best player for sure, and I don't think
• 21:45
  Speaker 6: that would be an argument next year.
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: But I think it's neck and neck.
• 21:48
  Speaker 6: I'd probably have to give the edge to Witherspoon just
• 21:50
  Speaker 6: based on longevity.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: Here's the thing I think we need to change the
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: answer to this completely.
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: It's jsn our best defensively. Sorry, yeah, but I mean
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: a conversations again today brought up that our two best
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: players are Emon Worri and Devin Witherspoon. I think it's
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: very clear our best. Cavel gas yass.
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: Judge, it is definitely JS said, there's no way if
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: fans are bouts. I mean, we're talking about the guy
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: that's doing record breaking stuff. I will say this for
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: the sake of the conversation. I think Emon worry will
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: if he has not already caught up to and pass Witherspoon.
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: I think that's on this way because I think Witherspoon
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: is unbelievable at what he does. I mean, as a cornerback,
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: he can cover inside outside, he's locked down and great
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: at coming up and making tackles, but I think Emon
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: Worriy can do that, and he can cover.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: He can cover tight ends.
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: I mean, there was one play last week where Pitts
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: made an unbelievable catch. It was a great throw in number,
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: like it was right in his back pocket. I think
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: he can do just about everything. And the fact that
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: he can play, you know, all the positions that they're
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: putting him in and do it well, that says something
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: about between the years for a young kid to be
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: able to do all that.
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: All right, college football, Notre Dame did not get screwed,
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: and they need to stop crying.
• 23:09
  Speaker 6: I mean, they did get screwed basically based on just
• 23:12
  Speaker 6: especially based on the fact that they were ahead of
• 23:14
  Speaker 6: Miami that entire time. It is strange that you needed
• 23:17
  Speaker 6: BYU to lose in order to look at the two
• 23:19
  Speaker 6: of those programs and their head to head competition. That's
• 23:22
  Speaker 6: a bizarre thing to me. I don't quite understand the
• 23:24
  Speaker 6: flip flopping in that sense. Notre Dame, Yeah, you got screwed,
• 23:28
  Speaker 6: but you know what, somebody gets screwed every year. Shut it,
• 23:31
  Speaker 6: quit your bitchin you know, this is.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: A really weird one.
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: For me, because I think that this thing could get
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: answered either way. Notre Dame did not get screwed and
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: they need.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: To stop crying. I agree.
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: I can also say Notre Dame did get screwed and
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: they need to keep on crying because that's the only
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: way to apparently enact change around here. I ultimately think,
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: and this is how close this conversation is, that Notre
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: Dame should be in the tournament and they need to
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: stop crying.
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Gavel, Gavel, Gavel. I'm not a big fan of
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: the crying and wine and you essentially, I mean, you
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: lost to it the whole debate. I think Notre Dame
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: was playing better football than more than just Miami, more
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: than a bunch of teams that are in the tournament.
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: They were playing unbelievable basically since that Miami game, they've
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: been playing pretty unbelievable football. But at the same time,
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: you lost to them head to head, and so I mean,
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: I get it the fact that like new EISA was saying,
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: the fact that we had five weeks of them saying
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: that they were beneath that Miami was beneath Notre Dame,
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: and then without either of them even stepping on a
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: football field, you flop them. That to me is yeah,
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: you can be pissed off, same time, go play in
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: your bowl game. I mean, I guess that it doesn't matter.
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: You're just basically making money and you know, going out
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: and appeasing the man if you will. But yeah, just
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: stop crying. And I'm not a big fan of the whiney.
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: I'm going to take my ball and go home because
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: I'm mad.
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: In the movies, Ford beat ferrr E. Will Jerry and
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: Justin live to regret trading Harry Ford for jose A
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: ferrer E a relief pitcher.
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: I don't think they're going to regret it.
• 25:21
  Speaker 6: I do think that Harry Ford is going to be
• 25:23
  Speaker 6: an excellent player, but at the same time, he was
• 25:26
  Speaker 6: stuck behind cal Rawly. So are you going to keep
• 25:29
  Speaker 6: somebody there for even longer that really has no upward
• 25:33
  Speaker 6: trajectory or are you going to see what you can
• 25:35
  Speaker 6: get for him? Obviously, given what they got for him,
• 25:37
  Speaker 6: then the trade value wasn't as high as we thought
• 25:39
  Speaker 6: they would, which makes me think they're not going to
• 25:41
  Speaker 6: regret it, and it is what it is.
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: Well, I think they might live to regret it, but
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: I will tell you this. They certainly don't regret it
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: right now. According to Jerry Depoto and Daniel Kramer's latest article, quote,
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: we feel like we got the number one trade target
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: on our list.
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: Wow.
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: So they've been after Jose Ferrer apparently for six years.
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: They wanted him desperately this offseason, and when you think
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: about it that way.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: Man, maybe they didn't have to give up as much
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: as they thought they were going down gable gabble, gabble.
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's the idea of when we all knew
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: Harry Ford was on the trade block and he was
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: probably going to move somewhere, I think we all had
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: our hope set really high as to what you were
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: going to get that obviously was not the market. And
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: so now you just measure what it is that they
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: have and Harry Ford is it's not for sure that
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: he's going to go on to be some great catcher
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: in the big leagues. I think he is going to
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: be successful in the big leagues. But at the same time,
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: you got a guy that has proven to be capable
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: of pitching in the big leagues and be successful, and
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: I don't think he's even pop jet. I don't think
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: he's really achieved what his potential is. I think you
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: got a guy with a kind of a funky arm angle,
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: a little bit of a crossbody. There was one hundred
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: miles an hour and has a nasty change up and
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: slew gets ground balls. Unlike a lot of people, he
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: throws a lot of strikes. He's in the strike zone
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: a lot. I think he's going to be great. I
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: think we just upgraded our bullpen immensely, probably upgraded the team.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: It's probably a win now move. We probably did get better. Yes, right,
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: one hundred percent think we've got better now now.
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: Well, we spend ten twelve years watching Harry Ford with
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: a three eighty five on base, you know, popping twenty
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: homers for the Nationals.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: You treated again, he's.
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: Going to probably play every day for somebody that's gonna
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: pitch every other day. So yeah, there's a really good
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: chance you've got You lost the player that is more
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: valuable to a team down the road. But right now,
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: Harry Ford was not going to help us as much
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: as this guy.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you're right. Final one.
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: Bucky talks a big game, but I'm betting Ashley's wine
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: trip to Tualaton this weekend made Bucky's boy trip look
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: like milk and cookies at grandma's house.
• 27:52
  Speaker 6: Well, I'll just say we packed a lot into one
• 27:57
  Speaker 6: day in the Tuletan Valley and involves lots of wine,
• 28:00
  Speaker 6: some tequila, some more wine, some vodka.
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: I think more wine.
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: Actually, at one point was holding Stacey from Touleton's hair.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: There was no hair holding.
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: There was stuff far beyond hair holding, though, I'll tell
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: you that.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: No. One day in twelt and I mean I had.
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: Sound like you're talking about breathy meats with that, but yeah,
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: some other stuff.
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, sure, yeah, a lot of that too. No, there
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: was no comparison. I'm sorry.
• 28:33
  Speaker 5: I mean, I'm not insulted.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: I'm not even bragging.
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: It's it was unfortunate at fifty we should not have
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: done all the things we did.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: You can always some breathy meat. Yeah, soak up all
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: of that fun.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, All right, going out next, one last thing on.
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  Speaker 1: Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ r f M.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: All right, final segment. Time for one last thing. We
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: go round the room. Bucky.
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: I'm wondering if you and Anders and your podcast are
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: you're doing much on the Rule five draft coming up?
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: Not a lot, No no, because I've been reading some
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: stuff that there's a couple young catchers out there that
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: have some good upside and might be maybe on the
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: door step of maybe knocking on the door a little
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: bit of being maybe being.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: Ready for the big leagues. Rule five.
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: Everybody knows, right, if they don't protect him on the
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: forty man, then you can sniper them. But then you've
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: got to keep them on the big leagues sake of
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: cal are you, yeah, yeah, get rid of that dumper guy.
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: What did he ever do for us? By the way,
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: he's like at every cracking game now, is he?
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah? He was said by Mule Mule yesterday.
• 29:51
  Speaker 6: Do you know he was wearing two different shirts though
• 29:53
  Speaker 6: he started out with a sweatshirt. Then they were like,
• 29:55
  Speaker 6: we gotta get that guy at jersey. So then the
• 29:56
  Speaker 6: next time they showed him, he was wearing the third
• 29:59
  Speaker 6: jersey that go in the.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: They start chanting m VP for him, and he was
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: eating a hot dog.
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: Of course he was a babe ruth, but better No,
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: just said we need a backup catcher. That would be
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: a prime way to do it. You get some kid
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: that you don't you get him up to the big leagues.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: He gets to learn.
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: Under cow Is this your way of saying anything but anything,
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: anything but Garver?
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: Please, God Lord hear me. You're damn right.
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: Until we find out who that is, it might be
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: my one last thing every day is me coming up
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: with a way in which it can be anyone but Garver. A.
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: I was wonder where you're going, Like we're really bringing
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: up Group five draft right now.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: I get where you're going now now it's funny.
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: If anything Magarver, please, I'm sorry, Garver. You're a nice guy.
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: You can go be a nice guy and work walks
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: for somebody else.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: I don't think he even wants to come back. Good.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: I don't think you gotta worry about it. What's your
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: one last thing?
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: Well, we didn't.
• 31:02
  Speaker 6: We did start off the show kind of talking about
• 31:04
  Speaker 6: the rain just a little bit with the atmospheric River
• 31:06
  Speaker 6: and the and then of course the possibility of facing
• 31:09
  Speaker 6: Philip rivers the atmospheric rivers.
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: But I did just want to say there.
• 31:13
  Speaker 6: Was a video of Snowami falls today and it's always
• 31:16
  Speaker 6: fascinating to look at the falls like on a normal
• 31:19
  Speaker 6: day and then what the falls looks like right now,
• 31:22
  Speaker 6: and it is incredible. There is a lot of rain.
• 31:26
  Speaker 6: So I just want to hope people are safe because
• 31:28
  Speaker 6: I mean it is not really, it is not anything
• 31:30
  Speaker 6: to joke about.
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: There's gonna be a lot of flooding over the next
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: couple of days.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the Jacobsons need to be safe.
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we're okay. But there was a lot of water.
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: I mean our house turned into an island last night.
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: There was a lot of water. And it's supposed to
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: be a bad one on Thursday too, possibly worse. I
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: mean it was right up to the house. I mean
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: the atmospheric rivers. I mean, are we going to set
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: the record? I mean, this is the I think this
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: is brain one.
• 31:54
  Speaker 6: It's just like there's a break in it today, then
• 31:57
  Speaker 6: it comes back tonight with wind, and.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: Well we already had who previously and now we got
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: a third one.
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: I think they said we averaged like six a year.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: Oh really, Oh.
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: Well, this one, because it's warmer too, means that some
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: of the stuff that would be snow up in the
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: mountains is not. Excuse me, some of it is, but
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: some of it isn't. So it's just a bunch of
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: runoff which is creating all the flooding.
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: It's bad, all right, I'm gonna close with a little
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: bit of baseball. By the way, we did tell you
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: that Edwin Diaz went to the Dodgers. I don't think
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: I did take the time to tell you. Three years,
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: sixty nine million dollars. It's a new record for a
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: relief pitcher, both annual salary and I think overall contract
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: as well. So the Dodgers get Edwin Diaz from the Mets.
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: Of course, Kyle Schwarber re signed with the Philadelphia Phillies,
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: and all the experts are saying the moves are gonna.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: Start going now.
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: Also, we keep hearing this rumor about Trek Scuoble. The
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: Tiger's president came out and said yesterday, and there's no
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: reason to say this. Everybody is on the table to
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: be traded. I think Trek Scooble's as good as gone
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: from Detroit. It's just trying to figure out where he's
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: going to go. To make a prediction because I think
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: it might happen today. San Diego Padres, oh boy aj
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: Preller just as one of those guys that like he
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: just goes for it and then when he realized it's
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: not working, then he sells. He's just buy sell by
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: self they have had. I looked up their top prospects
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: from twenty twenty four. Aj Preller has traded ten of
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: them since twenty twenty four. Ten of his top twelve
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: prospects he's traded away to other teams to get stuff
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: to help him now, and then he'll then he'll make
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: a move too. If it's not working, I'll get rid
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: of the veteran and I'll bring back prospects. So he
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: kind of has this revolving door. I think the Tigers
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: are not a team that is crying poverty. I think
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: they are a team saying we're just not that franchise
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: that can sign a guy to a ten year, four
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: hundred million dollar contract, so we might as well trade
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: him while we can get some pieces. So I think
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: those two are going to hook up. I think they're
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: going to hook up today. I think they're going to
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: make out right in front of us. So just something
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: to I mean, that's a bold, outlandish prediction. That's like
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: predicting Philip Rivers will be the starting quarterback for the
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: Indianapoli's ridiculous, and yet it just might happen.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: We'll talk to you tomorrow at six.
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