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Sooners got GREAT News and MORE Incoming! |Sooner or Later Sports Show (S1 E55) · Sooner or Later Sports

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  The following is a presentation of the Sports Media Network. Got some good news,
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  and I think we got some other good news coming. We're gonna talk
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  about that and some end of season awards and a lot more here on the
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  Sooner or Later Sports Show. I'm your host, Jay. Thank you out
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  five anyway and gift it. So we're gonna bring in the cavalry we've got,
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  of course, you know Coop in the house. We also brought Brian
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  Clinton back ed. Coach is gonna be coming in and talk to us about
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  you know, we gonna about Zach Alli. We're gonna talk about some portal
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  wins and stuff, as well as updates around a couple of visitors we have.
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  I've seen some stuff up talking about that too. Then we'll wrap things
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  up in the season awards. We'll give your O, m v P,
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  D m VP. We'll go down into we'll talk about special teams, transfer
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  all that jazz. We're gonna wrap up the season as now, it's officially
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  over since the National Championship to tomorrow, and we'll probably need some National Championship
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  conversations too, if we find the time. So gentlemen, happy Sunday.
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  Ryan. Let the people know where they can find you. What's up,
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  guys. I'm over at Heartland College Sports. I'm the editing managing editor over
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  there, and then over at ou Insider. Have been a contributor there about
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  six months now. Loving it over there too, So you guys can find
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  me over there, and I'm on on Twitter. I'm calling it Twitter.
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  I'm not gonna call it x Clinton forty over there, so so go check
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  it out if you're looking for you insider content. We got all of it
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  over there, so yeah, exactly cool. Let the people know, say
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  how tell him? Tell how you doing today? Oh yep, hit the
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  dreading. But it's somebody had technical difficulties and it wasn't just me. It
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  was it was epic. What I said was just epic. But no,
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  I just got to say, what's up? Floyd steven T sooner Legends a
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  new new member, So thank you so much for that, guys, appreciate
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  that. Uh you know, this is the time of the years where the
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  content is, uh, you can maximize what needs to really be minimized,
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  or you could just you know, report stuff as it happens. We go
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  with the ladder. But you know, we're running on the the the waning
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  hours of the Transfer Portal, and I'm very very very happy to uh to
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  probably get close to the end. NEO. I love you, good,
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  good eating all y'all, and I'm gonna keep it a buck. This is
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  why I like the Transfer Portal because it gives me stuff to talk about.
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  Like I can sit here and like be here with y'all and complain about things
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  non stop. And you know, you don't have fun with that. But
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  like when the season's over, like what else is there to really talk about?
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  Like there's a lot of roster movement regardless, but you know, the
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  portal really gives us stuff to really, you know, complain about, and
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  I appreciate them for that. It gives us drama a lot of that.
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  Now, guy, Actually, got a video I've been working on, Actually
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  got two videos I've been working on, but one I'm been working on about
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  the Transfer Portal and how we probably need to calm down a little bit A
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  lot of people don't understand this kind of how it works. But we'll get
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  into that another time. But since we got coach here, we definitely want
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  to dive into you know what, let's open it up with the two big
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  wins that we had most recently. The number one win we have is Michael
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  Tarkin, an offensive lineman coming in and committing from He played at Florida for
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  four years, went to USC for a year, and now he's here.
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  He's a former four star consensus and composite four star, top three hundred player
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  in the country at the time while he was in high school. Oklahoma was
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  in his top three when he was a recruit, and then you were like
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  in the top two when he was a transfer, and everything full circle third
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  times to charm he landed here at Oklahoma, and so, Brian, you
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  did a video breaking down film and I read, of course, some of
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  the comments in there, and boy, people weren't the most excluded, But
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  at the same time I get where there's where they came from, while also
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  understanding that there's a bigger picture here. So tell us what your thoughts on
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  Tarking coming here to Oklahoma, And of course, the best way that he
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  of course commits is that he doesn't actually say a thing at all. He
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  just shows up in the student database. He's standing on business. Yeah,
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  no, they I like it. I really like what. I really like
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  what he brings to the table because Oklahoma lacks experience right now along the offensive
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  line, like in a bad way, and I think he brings a lot
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  of that. The first thing I want to say to Sooner fans is,
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  guy, there's not creat humphries out there all over the place, like you
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  don't just have you don't have ready made second round picks, first round picks
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  just walking out on the transfer portal. Uh, you know right now,
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  that's just not how it works. And if they if they are out there
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  at this point in time, I think it's pretty safe to say they're asking
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  for a bag. So you know, you've got to be careful about that
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  stuff, you know. And I've seen a lot of things where where people
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  say, well, it's Oklahoma broke. No, I don't think that's what
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  it is. I think you just have to understand that nil stuff can creep
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  into a locker room. You start handing big time money out to guys,
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  the guys that are on on the team already are going to be wondering,
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  Hey, where's mine, Like why why am I not? So it changes
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  the dynamic with with every every guy that you bring in. So uh As
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  for what Tarkin brings guys, he's he's played tackle, He's played right tackle
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  for the most part. He's got four years experience, as you said,
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  Florida and a year at USC. The game at USC where he gave up
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  back to back, he gave up a sack and then a pressure against Arizona,
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  who has good pass rushers. I mean we saw that just about week
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  and a half ago, and I think that it was one of those instances
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  where us he just kind of set him down. No, they're doing P
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  ninety X out there for strength and conditioning, so I wouldn't take it too
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  seriously what you saw from there. I do like where he was at more
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  when he was at Florida. I saw some promising things from him on film
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  there, And really, I think you have a portal gym here. I
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  guess if you want to call it that for Bill Bean both's purposes, because
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  the issues that he has are technical. He's got technical issues. He doesn't
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  have size issues, he doesn't have motor issues. He doesn't have work ethic
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  issues. It's technical and if he's willing to put in the work. I
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  don't think there's a better developmental offensive lineman coach out there than Bill Bidenbough.
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  I mean the guy, he just he's There's a reason why NFL scouts talk
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  about him and on a short list for guys that they want offensive lineman being
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  developed by It just it matters. And I think if if they can get
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  him to slow down on some things, let his let his feet do the
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  work and keep himself balanced. He lost balance several times, loses his footing.
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  I think really all that comes down to is being more in control,
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  and Beidenbow does a good job of making sure his guys do just that.
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  He moves well in space. I think he's your offensive goal I think he's
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  one of your two offensive guards. I do. I think he's he's more
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  Yeah, he's more built for that that role. And you know, six
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  ' five, three hundred pounds, he's probably gonna have to get a little
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  heavier. I don't think that'll be a problem. But at the end of
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  the day, it's somebody that you can really hang your hat on, be
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  happy about. And it's another experienced guy in that room, which Oklahoma really
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  needs right now. And that was my thought when I looked at him,
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  like we talked about this in the green room, kind of what bring up
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  to the front table. When I looked at my comparison to him, I'm
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  gonna be honest. The guy that he makes me think about as mackay Mtower
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  coming here from cal right, it feels like he can be a guy like
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  that. You break him in. He brings solid experience in. You only
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  got in for a year, so you're really only using him as a band
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  aid anyway, so that you can really develop the other guys that need to
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  go ahead and step up and take that role. Good thing is you got
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  a Fabichi away Wu coming in which he's young freshman All American. He's someone
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  that can step in and play today. You got a slew of freshman linemen
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  that, honestly, you may see of one or two of them get some
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  reps. You also have other guys on the roster from the last couple of
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  recruiting classes that are really itching to get him the field too. But bigger
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  thing is is you just need additional experience. Because we talked about this,
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  I've talked about literally every show, and I know y'all may be tired of
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  hearing it, but those that haven't heard me say this. We had over
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  four thousand snaps from players that were freshman, resuo, freshman, sophomore.
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  So you got all those young players coming in, well, all those young
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  players playing, they're building that experience, But you don't want to keep doing
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  that every year. At a certain point, you're going to need to have
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  the junior type experience, a senior type experience to help control the locker room
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  when you're going up against the big dogs and they're gonna be kicking your butt.
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  But that was kind of my comparison with him. I thought, I
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  don't think he's a bad pit player to have, especially since beating bothesmen wanting
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  to have him and coach, you God, you said the best thing possible.
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  He went to USC and went to a strength and conditioning coach that we
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  are seeing the problems of today, or we've seen in the last couple of
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  years of how the line change when he was in control. Now we're bringing
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  him back to a guy like Schmidy who built sec lines. Who knows how
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  he did that? At A and M he knows how to get these guys
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  in the right shape to play. I don't have any concerns about him coming
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  here because I think that they can get him in the right mode. He'll
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  get back to a Florida workout regime in comparison to like, you know,
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  the USC one similar here to Oklahoma, and he'll be ready to play in
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  the trenches. So I'm excited. Cool when you saw Tark and get that
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  commitment, see him come through and just show up randomly in a student database,
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  what jump to you have mine? There are times at Chong, I
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  mean basically that's that's kind of what you look at, you know, right
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  now when it comes to offensive line, you know, you you gotta trust
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  in coach beat involve because when he has time to work on these players and
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  the mccam A tier comparison is terrific because you know, last year we were
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  talking about and I mean you can go to to Gabe, who's pretty decent
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  at the offensive line breakdown, but everybody was talking about just get out of
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  here, like just you know, he he it wasn't great, it wasn't
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  good. And then this year it's, uh, you know, at one
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  point he's hurt and we're like, we we need McKay mtyler back on the
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  line and Bill be and Bud is going to look for people that he can
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  count on, people who are going to not make the mental mistakes again.
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  I mean, if you clatch on somebody and fall down because you got beat
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  with bad feet, I mean, that's that's something you can handle. Now.
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  Granted you're still going to get your butt torn up you when you have
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  a lapse physically, mentally, spiritually, alphabetically. You know from this fan
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  base, so it's it's all the same. But with Babichi coming in Simmons,
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  you know what you're hearing about. Eugene Brooks, the broth from across
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  the pond. Daniel, you know atkn Koumi, he is the one we're
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  trying to get him on, trying to line it up now that he's here
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  stateside and maybe a little bit easier. H So, Daniel, we want
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  you, buddy. But one of the big things that I just want to
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  do is just just say, like you got to trust in to be Bob.
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  I mean, because he went out to get bodies, I expect probably
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  some more good news can aligned, but what you need is bodies and com
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  everybody prep it. You need competitive depth on your offensive line because we saw
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  Dylan Gabriel get better when Jackson Arnold was behind him. You see offensive linemen
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  get better when they got dudes behind them. If you don't feel like your
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  jobs in jeopardy, I mean outside of just not getting yelled at, what
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  is the reason to to press yourself? So you know, I like some
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  of these kids. The talking kid, you know, this is his opportunity.
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  And you got to think that with a very very cerebral guy like himself.
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  You look at beating ball, you hear. I think that Neo said
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  something about it with Andy Reid. I mean in NFL coaches do will take
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  an offensive lineman around earlier if it's an OU offensive lineman because you got that
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  opportunity. So if you're freaking out, I understand, and you got to
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  invest in the offensive line. Jackson Arnold's capability is a little bit, you
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  know, gonna give us a little bit of a cushion there. On top
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  of that, you know he's going to get the ball out of his hands
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  a little bit faster. Forget about the bowl game. You know he held
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  onto the ball for way too long. In several situations. So competitive depth
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  is really the main reason why I'm excited to see him come in and with
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  the experience, because you don't want to roll into LSU at night with a
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  kid who turned nineteen a couple days before. It doesn't matter. I mean
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  you saw and it helped me out the name here Prize left tackle at Alabama.
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  Guy was going to all everything and he got his Yeah he is.
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  He got abused by Michigan. So it does not matter. Five star offensive
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  linemen that they will have their ups and downs. But yep, you know
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  which can take us to the next one. But yeah, competitive depth,
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  here's my dream finally. Yeah, no, that's that's and that's and you're
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  spot on with that. You you just need addition to players, and as
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  Brian mentioned earlier, that's kind of just key. You don't want to run
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  in with a who bunch of young players. Well, at the same time,
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  just having a guy with snaps from the SEC, he can prepare those
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  guys mental, he can let them know, hey, this is kind of
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  what's gonna happen. Right, These are some of the tactics. And it's
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  not that he was an SEC four a year. He's an SEC for four
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  years, so he knows how some of these schools play, how dirty some
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  of them can be. Hey, watch out for them doing this, watch
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  out for them grabbing that. They'll lean on you this way, and that's
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  gonna help hurt your hip. Whatever. There's all kinds of stuff that can
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  be thrown out there to truly get you know, get you going so okay.
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  Next up, of course, we've got some visitors kind of want to
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  chit chat about that. Oh you might, thank you for the ten bucks.
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  We appreciate the support. Definitely, make sure you go over to Heartland
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  College Sports and chose some love to branding them over there as well as,
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  Oh you insiders, we really appreciate you supporting Tanya, thank you for the
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  virtual high five. Boom right back at you on that. All right,
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  we got Lance Hurd as well as Terrence Ferguson or the two that I know
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  are in town now. I'm not sure if the based upon what the mods
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  I've been seeing, especially the Tennessee guys, they've been talking about it like
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  crazy. Feels like Tennessee is dooming right now, supposedly is between us and
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  them. The fans are not feeling very good right now because he was.
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  I know that herb was at Tennessee for like six hours and he bounced,
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  So it could mean one or two things. In my personal opinion, Brian,
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  I'm gonna throw this at you next and kind of give your thoughts.
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  Is one, this is a bad situation. He went to Tennessee, see
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  what the bag is. The bag didn't sound right for him, so he
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  bounced out and was like, all right, I'm good. I'm gonna go
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  ahead and keep my flight and roll. Or two, he's looking for an
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  opportunity to start immediately and Tennessee needs to meet someone. They actually need a
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  starting left tackle right now. They're kind of struggling with that. But he
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  didn't feel like it was a good situation for him, So I mean,
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  and then the third one is that he's looking for somebody to really develop them.
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  Now. I know that he likes beateing bow. I know that he
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  was recruited by us and last time in some capacity, so we know him.
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  I'm curious to kind of see where this goes, and we'll find out
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  what probably sometime tomorrow, since the dead period starts tomorrow. Either he's gonna
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  commit or he's gonna be looking to take other visits. I'm just hoping that
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  he goes out and commit and enrolls next week when school starts. Brian talked
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  to us, you're one of our insiders. What you're hearing sounds like visits
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  have gone well, which you know that's kind of it's a good thing.
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  But look, this is one of those situations, don't I don't want to
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  get everybody's hopes up, so I want to be just real with you.
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  It visits going well doesn't mean anything in the transfer portal era. I mean,
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  he may like, really like what he hears and and somebody else comes
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  calling and they drop something on him that he can't pass up, and that's
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  where he ends up. But sounds like Oklahoma's doing what they need to be
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  doing, uh, to try and land this guy with with Herd. Look,
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  this is a situation where the Sooners understand what their needs are. And
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  I think that this is one where you you know, proverbally swing for the
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  fences, uh. And I and if if Oklahoma really likes what Herd brings
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  into the room, I think they'll do that. Now you know, I
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  will say this, he's a young guy and and that's you. You're not
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  getting a lot of experience in this and so. But but you also I
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  think what really I think what put what puts Oklahoma in a situation to you
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  know, swing for the Fences, is that you just lost Kayden Green.
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  Now it's not a one for one. I think Cayden Green. I mean,
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  I really like what we've seen from from Lance, but Caden Green was
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  was he was set to be one of the nastiest guards in the SEC next
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  year and he still will be, just not for the Sooners. So you
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  know, I do think that there's there's definitely some juice there for Oklahoma.
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  It does help that this is a guy that likes Bill beid and Bow.
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  If if you go in that you either like that guy or you don't.
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  That's that's that's just how guys like Bill Veidenbow are taken. And I think
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  that he is is somebody that fits that room well. So I think it's
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  I think it's down to it sounds like it's down to Oklahoma, Tennessee.
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  But you never know, like I said, Oregon could come I knocking and
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  just throw everything off. And now I mean that's not there's no basis to
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  that, but uh, I mean you get the sentiment. What I'm saying,
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  it's just just how things work. But right now it looks like Oklahoma's
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  at least in a decent spot. Yeah, and that's exactly what I'm hearing
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  too. Terrence Ferguson the former Alabama lineman, you know, we'll we'll add
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  him in there too. He's supposedly here hanging out. He had some he
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  had some good snaps there at Bama. I think he only has like two
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  years left of eligibility. Were heard has three or four. But I think
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  the big thing with Herd is to remember, and it's the thing to consider
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  when it comes to somebody these transfer portal guys, is that if you're bringing
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  in some of the older grad graduate transfers, they're great for one year rentals.
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  It doesn't really mess up continuity in the room, right. If you
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  bring young dudes in, you might piss off one of your prize recruits.
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  That's the ones you got to think about. And as Brian mentioned, you
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  know, and Jerry Knnic somebody actually mentioned this on Twitter on the Twitter video
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  that Cannick mentioned it in one of their podcasts on the Prairies that if you
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  want to get paid, go to the portal. But the issue with that
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  is is that all the players know that. So if you come in,
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  they know that you probably got paid to get here, and now they're going
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  to be asking the questions of where my money at and then you start losing
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  your own. So that's probably one big reason why you'd recognize with the way
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  that you know, Venables and them is doing the team building, They're focusing
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  on guys that they want to bring here that actually wants to play ball,
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  and really focus on development. Money's going to be there. We'll figure out
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  how to make some great stuff work, but we're not here to outpay Oregon
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  or the likes of you know, Texas A and M. But wilso be
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  competitive in the price. That's what you got to recognize. And so with
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  some of these people and Neil I disagree on the poison of nil is because
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  some of these players also recognize they ain't making it in an NFL. So
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  they're making any money at this level now, that way they can try to
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  figure out what's next in their career. Because the ones that are going to
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  make the NFL, they're starting on offensive lines around the country today or defensive
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  line or whatever positions today and they're not leaving their school. The guys that
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  are in the portal are ones that probably aren't gonna play anyway at some places.
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  Now, one thing I'm gonna add and coop them past to you is
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  when it comes to the portal and players like a Terrence Ferguson and the lance
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  heard. Yes, I am basically telling you that the transfer portal is retail
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  prices besides wholesale prices. Wholesale you go to Sam's, you go to Costco
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  or whatever, and the prices if you get it in bulk or a lot
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  of times you can get it much cheaper in wholesale because you're getting it is
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  either in bulk or you're getting a special price because they've got a bunch of
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  them and they'll give it to you. Go. That's your high school.
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  Your high school players are more of your wholesale pricing. Retail pricing is after
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  it's been sold off, somebody else has tried it and they're like, all
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  right, I'm gonna gohead and see if I can make more money. And
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  that's when you get those retail prices from these. Now, every once in
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  a while you find a clearance player. For example, Tyler Goydon is probably
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  one of the best Clarence players we've ever found, because it's one of the
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  greatest projects I think I've ever seen at Oklahoma. I can't think of anybody
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  better. Dude with a defensive tackle, played h back at TCU, and
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  when I saw him as a freak, I'm like, hmm, I wonder
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  what Beaten Boat can do with him. Brought this dude here, and dude's
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  a consensus first round draft pick, guaranteed. Everybody said he's going in the
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  first round. Think about it that way. Don't think about it the other
• 22:23
  ways you've heard. Think about it that way. We're finding some players on
• 22:27
  the retail side, trying to get that nice little deal we can get maybe
• 22:32
  Clarence player here or one on sell, someone that we can peek up and
• 22:36
  say, probably one of the best picks you've seen in a while. Guidance
• 22:40
  don't come. You know, they don't grow on trees. They're very hard
• 22:41
  to find, especially guys that want to work hard to do it. But
• 22:45
  luckily we're going after guys that already have the size. We can teach him
• 22:48
  the technique. Coop, what are you hearing or thoughts on heard? And
• 22:53
  ferguson coming in what do you feel like they could even fit if we were
• 22:56
  to close the deal. So with heard, I'll start with him. Pardon
• 23:03
  the Terrence Ferguson, Uh mental block that we got. If you're a thunder
• 23:08
  fan, you know we had a we had a Terrence Ferguson on and uh
• 23:12
  it wasn't very good. So but this Terrence Ferguson, Uh, you know,
• 23:18
  another body. But uh, Lance heard he's still in town and so
• 23:25
  he didn't blow in a blowout. Last sighting I heard is he is sticking
• 23:29
  around for the night and there should be some decent indications now transfer portal insider
• 23:37
  information. Guys looking to be the one that was right. I don't give
• 23:44
  a damn. Let's just get some bodies and let's get some dudes who want
• 23:47
  to go pancakes and folks that that's what we want. And again, when
• 23:53
  when I'm going back to you know, I stand very very strongly on what
• 23:59
  I said when the Peyton Bowen situation happened. That the first okied Oak where
• 24:03
  he pulls out Oregon, and I say, if that's what that person is
• 24:10
  about, we don't want him in the locker room. If it's if it's
• 24:12
  one hundred percent money. First, we don't want them in the locker room
• 24:15
  that doesn't mesh with We need high character guys who are leaders and their high
• 24:21
  sc leaders that the previous team that they were on. Those are the guys
• 24:26
  that Brent Venables is going after when you're building the culture that we're trying to
• 24:30
  build. That is who that is because you can and you've seen it with
• 24:34
  and I'll point out LSU. LSU just rises from the ashes every you know,
• 24:41
  eight to ten years and then turns into a cluster for the rest of
• 24:45
  the time. And I don't want this program to look like that. I
• 24:49
  don't want this program to be, you know, picking between ed Orgeron and
• 24:53
  Brian Kelly. Those are things that I don't want. And so I think
• 24:59
  that part I have heard coming in and the coaching staff is interviewing him just
• 25:03
  as much as he's interviewing them, and that is because do you fit in
• 25:08
  what we're trying to do here. We will help you get your money.
• 25:12
  But you know, if I'm beaten ball, I'm just going you know,
• 25:17
  at a lot of my offensive linemen are not doing anything today, but it's
• 25:21
  not because they get drafted. Is because they resting for the playoffs, so
• 25:26
  let's just hang out. And I mean, but you've got an absolute I
• 25:32
  mean opportunity to bring in a young guy who could potentially turn into something.
• 25:36
  And I agree with what you said about Guidon jay Is. He didn't play
• 25:40
  first year and it was all like, hey, this guy could turn into
• 25:44
  absolutely something. Well, I promise you for every one of those guys that
• 25:48
  could turn into absolute something, there's somebody who doesn't turn into anything. And
• 25:52
  so that's what I'm hearing on heard. I haven't heard anything about Ferguson,
• 25:56
  you know, super positive or or the opposite. So but we're trying to
• 26:03
  get those numbers. And as you see guys like Aaron Parks head out to
• 26:07
  the transfer portal, it's because they're they're they're making room for guys for another
• 26:11
  shot. You know, if you get another Aaron Parks as a depth piece,
• 26:15
  that's fine. But we do need difference makers, and we do need
• 26:19
  people who are going to really really really press right now. Yeah, And
• 26:23
  that's one thing to think about when when it comes to how attrition works on
• 26:29
  especially when it comes to the transfer portal. A lot of these cases,
• 26:33
  man, I don't I feel bad for players because a lot of the fans
• 26:36
  think that they don't want to compete, you know, the column names,
• 26:38
  you don't talk bad about them or whatnot. And it's like, no,
• 26:41
  it's not that they did want to compete. It's probably coach told them,
• 26:44
  you know, you probably ain't gonna play here, right, we got we
• 26:48
  got some dudes coming in, and I got one that I'm a lot higher
• 26:51
  on. So maybe a good idea for you to go, you know,
• 26:56
  explore the options unless you're cool being a backup. Explore the options because you
• 27:00
  may follow another spot in the portal in the depth trucks. I got another
• 27:03
  guy coming in, so enough on that we'll see what happened with Hurt and
• 27:07
  Ferguson. We'll probably hear something, like I said, in the next twenty
• 27:11
  four hours. If you don't hear anything next twenty four hours, and obviously
• 27:14
  that means that he's going to continue to shop around, we'll just cross the
• 27:17
  figures and toes that we're able to land. If we can land both,
• 27:19
  of course I'm gonna lose my mind. If we can at least land one
• 27:22
  of them, I'd be satisfied. So all right, now we got to
• 27:26
  go into this rumor has it. Rumor has it we got our new defensive
• 27:30
  coordinator. So before do that, please thank y'all for pulling up. Please
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• 27:48
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• 27:52
  a lot of break film breakdown, which is awesome. I always check it
• 27:55
  out. It makes me a lot smarter when I had these conversations. So
• 27:59
  we got potentially in the defensive coordinator. Ted Ruf's gone, and it's fascinating
• 28:04
  to me about how this went down because I had an idea that this was
• 28:10
  possibly gonna happen. Right. It felt like BV needed him to kind of
• 28:15
  get the transition going into the SEC and then from there it's the you know,
• 28:19
  Ted, we want to stick around. We would love to have you
• 28:22
  as an analyst. Getting old and we need somebody to really out there and
• 28:26
  recruit. And it's nothing to iss you, but you've got so much knowledge.
• 28:30
  You would love to have you around for that. Well, it sounds
• 28:36
  like Rufe's like, nah, I got to stick some coaching in me.
• 28:37
  I still got one more in me. You know, he's definitely the Vince
• 28:41
  Carter meme right now because he's got one more in him and he decided he
• 28:45
  want to be an analyst, and so he bounced out. And now the
• 28:47
  rumors are and we're waiting for an official announcement, which I anticipate to happen
• 28:49
  on Monday, since it's been just blowing up like this, is that Zach
• 28:52
  Ally, the defensive coordinator at Jacksonville State, will be our new DC slash
• 28:59
  linebacker coach. I know a lot of y'all was in my comments and my
• 29:03
  mentions and stuff talking little record, and this is the reason why I need
• 29:07
  it. Brian on here, because I know it as coach can break it
• 29:10
  down a lot better, and we're gonna piggyback off of his lead on this.
• 29:15
  Why this makes sense, Why this is a really good hire. Coach
• 29:18
  Clinton Field, is yours talk to us about Zach Ally. I know you've
• 29:23
  done film breakdown, You've looked at him overall. Talk to us. So
• 29:30
  I think it's really important to understand that Ted Ruff the one thing that you
• 29:37
  heard out of coach Vinnable's mouth about Ted Roof several times. Teacher, He's
• 29:45
  a great teacher. He's an excellent instructor. He's a great teacher. That
• 29:49
  is exactly why he was brought in. He was able to take guys that
• 29:59
  have had years of another system that they've been dealing with and teach them the
• 30:04
  foundations and the structure of what Brent Vinnables needed them to understand for them to
• 30:11
  move forward. Now, I think that that Ted ruff is, I do
• 30:17
  think that he brings value to this this coaching staff. But I think what
• 30:22
  you're getting in Zach Ally is, for lack of a better term, he's
• 30:27
  Brent Vinables at thirty years old. He he is like it's it's uncanny if
• 30:33
  if you have seen I shared something from from the ref earlier this week,
• 30:38
  the guy's manuisms, the way he goes about things, the way he coaches,
• 30:42
  the way he carries himself, the way he talks. I mean,
• 30:45
  Hell's voice even kind of sounds like Brent Vnables a little bit. That there
• 30:48
  is there's a lot of Brent Vinnables in this guy. And I think I
• 30:53
  don't think that's a that's not a it's not a coincidence. This This is
• 30:59
  a guy that spent seven years under BVS as a as a grad assistant,
• 31:04
  and his defenses. I've got this. I've got stats written down right here.
• 31:08
  His defense at Jacksonville State. This was their first year in the FBS.
• 31:12
  Mind you, this was Jacksonville State's first year in the FBS. They
• 31:17
  jumped into Conference USA. They were nine to four. They won their very
• 31:21
  first bowl trip New Orleans Bowl. They led Conference USA in total defense.
• 31:26
  They were forty second nationally three hundred and fifty two yards a game scoring defense.
• 31:32
  They led Conference USA twenty one point two points per game. Rush defense
• 31:37
  they were fourteenth nationally and led Conference USA one hundred and eleven one hundred and
• 31:41
  eleven point five yards per game. Sacks they had thirty nine that was fourteenth
• 31:45
  nationally. Turnovers game twenty five that was tied for eighth nationally. Third down
• 31:52
  defense, they allowed conversions on thirty two point five percent. That was top
• 31:56
  that was tied for twentieth. This guy runs his defenses like Brent Ventnibles does.
• 32:02
  It's very similar because it's the same defense guys he played, he coached
• 32:07
  for several years under under BV and something I need to address just right off
• 32:15
  the cuff. No, he didn't coach at Alabama last year. No he
• 32:22
  didn't come from Ohio State. This isn't But you have to understand coaching trees
• 32:28
  don't work that way. That's not how this works. He had he spent
• 32:31
  all those years under the I mean, nobody here is gonna nobody here is
• 32:36
  gonna argue with me that Brent Vinnables is one of, if not the best
• 32:40
  defensive mind, most consistent defensive mind, that college football has seen over the
• 32:45
  last twenty years. I mean, that's that's a given. This guy spent
• 32:50
  almost half of that time working under BEV and learning how to coach. He
• 32:55
  didn't have, you know, five years under somebody else and then come in
• 33:00
  and try and pick up a whole new system. He learned how to be
• 33:02
  a coach under Brent Venables. This is the right hire. This is the
• 33:07
  this is the best. And I think you know, there were some there
• 33:10
  were some rumors or reports that that maybe Ted Rufe was going to stick around
• 33:16
  a little longer than anticipated. The contract was set to be up, and
• 33:22
  it all came out, all happened so fast. I think knowing that a
• 33:27
  guy like Zach ally was available, and this is somebody that bv could go
• 33:31
  and get now and carry this transition into the SEC. I think it was
• 33:37
  perfect timing for Oklahoma, and I think that's why it happened. The guy,
• 33:42
  he just he exudes confidence. He is somebody that is very sure of
• 33:47
  who he is as a coach. And for a guy to be twenty nine
• 33:52
  thirty years old and and do that and to become a coordinator at Oklahoma.
• 33:57
  Who was the last defensive coordinator at Oklahoma that was twenty nine when he took
• 34:01
  the job. Oh that's right. It was Brent Vinibles whenever Bob Stoops brought
• 34:07
  him in. So, I mean, guys, this is a great this
• 34:10
  is a great move for the Sooners. I'm ecstatic about it. And something
• 34:15
  that needs to be said or something that's really great about this probably the best
• 34:22
  thing with how he thinks, with how he analyzes the game, being so
• 34:29
  similar to Print Vinables, this is going to open up. This is he's
• 34:32
  an extension of the head coach. This is going to open up Brent to
• 34:37
  focus on other things during game planning, during game time situations that maybe he
• 34:45
  felt he needed to be more hands on with the previous regime. So I
• 34:50
  think having somebody that is that similar minded, that has really molded himself after
• 34:57
  Brent, it's really going to pay off whenever it comes time for Brent Vnables
• 35:02
  to do more things as a head coach. I think this is great,
• 35:07
  and I think this is great for the centers. See, and you made
• 35:10
  a good point there with Venables wanting to step back and so year one,
• 35:15
  of course, things are pretty atrocious, you know, in the defense,
• 35:17
  and everyone's immediately saying wise Ted rufe Colney's plays. Year two, it appears
• 35:22
  that Venables had a lot more hands on with the defense as the defense dramatically
• 35:27
  changed over the last year. Like it's some aspects we didn't, but there
• 35:30
  was a lot of the advanced metrics and stuff, third downs, our stuff
• 35:36
  rate, our rankings just at advanced metrics, we were in the top forty
• 35:39
  and a lot of metrics that we didn't expect to happen. I anticipated us
• 35:44
  to be in the top forties and thirties, and we ended up being in
• 35:45
  that area. Stutsman getting hurt really showed how young our linebackers were. That's
• 35:52
  kind of as honestly, I think that's why we outside of the offense itself,
• 35:54
  and what was going on in the Kansas and Oklahoma State games. I
• 35:58
  think not having Stutsman as reason why we lost those games. Right, having
• 36:00
  your general at the linebacker position, who is the quarterback on defense, that
• 36:06
  makes a big difference. And so yeah, this guy now gives Vinible's that
• 36:12
  ability. I remember reading an article not too long ago after the rumors are
• 36:15
  going around he's gonna be hired? Is that? Venable still plans on having
• 36:19
  some hands on with it, but it would make sense. He's twenty nine
• 36:22
  years old, right, He's gonna have them in there, he's gonna install
• 36:23
  them, They're gonna work together. He's probably gonna oversee, but only you
• 36:29
  know, jump in when needed. The good thing is Seth Latrell's a former
• 36:34
  head coach and he was decent at best when it came to game management there
• 36:39
  at North Texas, and so he's learned a lot of lessons from that to
• 36:43
  where he's gonna get better about that. Right, He's grown from that,
• 36:47
  and he's also wanted to be an office court and just running the offense.
• 36:50
  It is gonna be a hell of a lot easier for Latrell than he would
• 36:52
  be running everything at North Texas. He can let Venables run that. And
• 36:57
  so I say, within the next year or two, it'll be all out
• 37:00
  just Venerables. And I point that out for this one reason. Go look
• 37:05
  at some of the other good defensive coordinators out there, the ones that have
• 37:08
  done some special stuff over the last few years. You can look back and
• 37:12
  see when they started their jobs. Kirby Smart was in his late twenties early
• 37:15
  thirties when he got the defensive coordinator position at Alabama. He was understudying with
• 37:20
  Nick Saban. He was with Saban for nine years before he went to his
• 37:23
  alma mater. He could have probably left a little bit earli they probably would
• 37:27
  have gotten rid of Mark Rick, you know, for him a little bit
• 37:29
  earlier. But he took his time and he when the opportunity came, he
• 37:34
  took the job and boomed two national championships. Right, Dan Lanning, when
• 37:37
  he took the job there at Georgia, he came from Memphis, right,
• 37:42
  He was a grad assist in at Alabama, and that's when Kirby Smart learned
• 37:45
  about him. But for the most part, you know, Kirby Smart had
• 37:47
  his hand heavily in that defense. But Lanning was still growing, and then
• 37:52
  Lanning started doing some special stuff and heck, now you see what he's doing
• 37:54
  at Oregon. The point is a lot of these guys do come from smaller
• 38:00
  ranks. Another young twenty nine year old, young thundercat that we brought in.
• 38:04
  It's maybe a sore spot for some of y'all. Bridan Lincoln Riley,
• 38:07
  he was in his he was ear late in the twenties, looked freaking fantastic
• 38:12
  as a offensive coordinator. You know, I do say so myself. Then
• 38:15
  Nick, of course he became a head coach. He's bounced, you know,
• 38:16
  Beard mustache ball. Anyway, my point is don't look at him just
• 38:22
  because he's young and have too many questions and say, you know what is
• 38:25
  disgnibles? Know what he's doing. He does, he has a plan and
• 38:29
  the good thing is is the transition for him is getting out of having to
• 38:31
  oversee everything and focus on the game itself. Coop zach Ally, I know
• 38:37
  you looked into him. You're pretty meticulous like me. Talk to me,
• 38:40
  which what's your feeling on that? Well? I can't remember which one of
• 38:45
  you two said he I think it was BC. He doesn't come from Alabama
• 38:50
  and he doesn't come from Ohio State. Well, Mike Stoops was on the
• 38:53
  staff at Alabama and our trench came from Ohio State. So who gets a
• 38:59
  damn where the do camber? Because he's if he's came in from somewhere else,
• 39:04
  that means they ain't wanting him anymore. So let's go with this.
• 39:07
  He goes to ULM stats get better? Hold on, so hold on?
• 39:14
  Nope, just checking on it. So you want a defensive coordinator stats to
• 39:16
  get better once he get rives. Okay, just make sure. So he
• 39:22
  did his stats get better? Did he take Jacksonville State from you know,
• 39:27
  looking like us and then now you know, now they looking good? They're
• 39:30
  looking good. So it's it's this, right, It's this multiple hats,
• 39:37
  multiple hats, Brent Vinables rocking multiple hats. He's doing all these different things.
• 39:43
  If only he had somebody who coaches defense exactly like he does, isn't
• 39:47
  sixty five and applying for AARP and can get out and recruit. Wait a
• 39:55
  second, what about that cat that was learning underneath me for a little while?
• 40:02
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So this is a guy who
• 40:06
  brand Venable sees as a great option going after you guys like that right.
• 40:10
  He guys like that good. So you go after somebody who is young because
• 40:15
  Ted Roof wasn't winning a ton on the recruiting front. Now I'm not saying
• 40:21
  ted Ruf was, you know, dead weight, because I mean I know
• 40:24
  that there's a specific twenty five linebacker who wasn't exactly excited that Rufe is bouncing,
• 40:30
  So I can say that he was doing a decent job. But let's
• 40:36
  just be honest. When you've got younger people who have this proven track record
• 40:42
  of success, they can go in there and they can sit. Zach can
• 40:45
  come in there. It's z Ac Zach. So make sure that when you're
• 40:51
  slander and the dude who hasn't done anything yet, you bound was named correctly.
• 40:55
  Yeah, so it's it's funny. It's like no, certainly, just
• 41:00
  us as fans, right, because we can get wrapped up around somebody who
• 41:06
  hasn't done anything yet if we feel good about that thing, and you'd be
• 41:08
  like to the heisman to the national Championship, we're going to Mars. And
• 41:15
  then also the same thing is you've got another guy who nobody knows anything about,
• 41:19
  and they're like, this guy's going to be crap. You know,
• 41:22
  because you want a big splash. Everybody wanted Jim Lenard, Jim Linard ain't
• 41:25
  coming here. It's a completely different style where Inventable still wants his defense,
• 41:30
  right, So fair, you look like you're about to say something, Brian,
• 41:36
  Yeah, well, I just whenever I think something that people get lost
• 41:38
  on those. That's two big time thought processes too, big time philosophies bouncing
• 41:47
  off of each other. People don't understand. You need somebody that is similarly
• 41:52
  is aligned with you cerebrally. You need somebody that knows the ins and outs
• 41:57
  of what you're doing. When somebody says Jim Leonard, bring in, throw
• 42:01
  in whoever you know, whoever that coordinator is that you want to Zach Arnett
• 42:06
  was another one. I think that's a little closer to what BB was.
• 42:09
  But still those things don't work. You need your your coaching staff needs to
• 42:15
  be cohesive. Just because the guy's name is big doesn't make him the right
• 42:19
  higher. That's not how this works. So I just wanted to add that
• 42:22
  no real quick, just to piggyback on that real quick, to recognize that
• 42:32
  a lot of your big name coaches ain't leaving for other coordinating positions when they
• 42:38
  have the opportunity to get in a head coaching job, right, Like,
• 42:42
  that's the hard part about trying to find perfect example Lebby, You know Lebby
• 42:45
  was there was legitimate conversations for Lebby with Georgia and Alabama. They tried to
• 42:51
  pull them. But the biggest problem for Levy leaving is that he leaves the
• 42:54
  CEO position here at offensive coordinator cause like literally he ran offense. Everybody complains
• 43:00
  about it. They ain't gonna just lead for a quote unquote later remove because
• 43:05
  unless the money's gonna go up like significantly. You saw the Missouri coach bounce
• 43:08
  back to LSU. He has history with Brian Kelly, so yeah, he's
• 43:13
  gonna do that, even though he got fired by Brian Kelly before. But
• 43:15
  I digress. He went for the for the bigger bump in money and probably
• 43:22
  more control over that side of the ball because Kelly's think more of viviensive guy
• 43:27
  anyway. That's sure, but for the most part, unless you're really giving
• 43:31
  up something those dudes don't want, they're gonna go for head coach. And
• 43:35
  Josh fran Brown didn't even take a coordinate position no where he went straight to
• 43:37
  Syracuse to the head coach and job. Keep that in mind too when it
• 43:40
  comes to certain people so young and upcoming, makes the most sense. Coop
• 43:45
  back to you and I'll wrap it with this. What happened the last time
• 43:49
  that we had two people with not exactly aligned defensive mentalities on our on our
• 43:54
  team. We kept a brother and we bounced our future head coach. I
• 44:00
  am saying this right now. This is a great hire. This is an
• 44:04
  absolute and Skalsky is still on staff. And unless something else has happened,
• 44:08
  and I don't know about, but he has been Brent Vitnibles has brought in.
• 44:15
  Now he's got year three, You've got returning senior leadership. That's going
• 44:19
  to make because I think this, I think this hire looks a little different
• 44:22
  if Woody, Billy and Danny aren't coming back. Yeah, and Jehan Terry
• 44:29
  and everything, because that could have played a huge part in this, in
• 44:32
  the fact that like, he doesn't have to go to Dany and be like,
• 44:36
  all right, I know I gotta start with you. Danny. You're
• 44:37
  the leader of the defense. But this is what I'm thinking, and Danny,
• 44:40
  You'll be like, damn, I've just been two and a half years
• 44:44
  trying to get into that late level of thinking, and now you're thinking this,
• 44:46
  like, so he can just walk up and say, hey, listen,
• 44:51
  this is what I'm thinking. You know, they can chop it up.
• 44:54
  And since the dude's thirty, I mean, what hell, he's only
• 44:57
  eight or nine years older than most of these guys, so he can relate
• 45:00
  with them too. And so this was a great hire. I'll stand on
• 45:04
  that one and I'll record my own simple video if ends up being elsewise.
• 45:07
  But I am very, very excited about this. Sooner Cowboy. This is
• 45:10
  a great point. Stability. Stability has been key about what Oklahoma has done
• 45:14
  over the last twenty you know, twenty four years of being heres stability that's
• 45:19
  we've and sometimes stability to a fault, right, Someone pointed out in one
• 45:23
  of the videos that I put out, and they pointed out how Oklahoma had
• 45:27
  a tendency of sometimes keeping some coaches for too long. And that makes sense
• 45:31
  that sometimes you got to get those birds out the nest when they should.
• 45:36
  Now this is this is something I want to point out as well, when
• 45:37
  it comes to that stability and his reason why I put up senter Cowboys statement
• 45:42
  is. As Coop mentioned, Jim Leonard was one name that everybody was thrown
• 45:47
  out there. Right. Leonard passed on the USC job because he wanted to
• 45:52
  bring in his own staff. That means that Lincoln Riley had to fire everybody.
• 45:57
  Riley wasn't gonna let that happen, right. A lot of head coaches
• 46:00
  don't do that unless they really feel like they need to change everything. They
• 46:04
  probably should have done that, but I digress. In some situations, you
• 46:07
  gotta go in and clean house. But they he didn't want to do that.
• 46:09
  He didn't want to do that to the people he brought with him to
• 46:12
  the USC, especially the ones from Oklahoma. So Lennard was gonna be able
• 46:15
  to come. Leonard was probably gonna do the same thing coming here of Hey,
• 46:21
  I would like to bring in my own people and do my own thing
• 46:24
  and let me really run this like a CEO or whatnot. But Fennables is
• 46:28
  a defensive guy. There's one thing he can't do is let go of defense.
• 46:31
  He's gonna have his hand in there. He may just have a finger
• 46:36
  on the polls. He's got to have some sort of his body part around
• 46:40
  defense. The best part with Ali is he knows Chavis, He knows Bates
• 46:47
  from all the time there at Clemson, so he knows both of them.
• 46:52
  Read somewhere that he talked with Brandon Hall in regular basis. So you've got
• 46:58
  a guy that has a relationship with the defensive staff already. You're not bringing
• 47:02
  somebody in who's gonna figure it out. Nope, he has a relationship that
• 47:07
  to me is so underrated as to what Venables made that choice on by bringing
• 47:13
  a guy that is already had a relationship. And I bet you he had
• 47:16
  the conversation with the defensive guy and said, hey, look what do you
• 47:20
  think about Zach Allen. You think he's ready? He probably like, oh,
• 47:22
  yeah, bring him. We'll make sure he's ready. And having that
• 47:28
  backing from everybody on's staff, Oh, it's gonna be a huge deal for
• 47:30
  him. So Stephen, for your question here, I'm not sure if you've
• 47:35
  been under a rock. Is Zach Allys the former defensive coordinator Jacksonville State.
• 47:42
  He worked with Brent Vinnables at Clemson for like seven years as a grad assistant
• 47:46
  and as an analyst for Venables specifically they're at Clemson, so he literally is
• 47:53
  like diet Brent Vivennables at the moment we say diet for now, maybe even
• 48:00
  coke zero version which has same I say, in the great taste with zero
• 48:02
  calories. Because he's twenty nine years old in comparison into Venables being you know,
• 48:07
  in his fifties. But we've got to say as a young stud that
• 48:09
  I think will lead us, usher us properly into the SEC. So,
• 48:15
  Brian, you got any closing thoughts you want to throw into there before we
• 48:16
  move on to the next Uh, yeah, there was something that Uh,
• 48:21
  I believe, I believe it was it was Coop that said it, But
• 48:27
  my had my wheels turning a little bit. The way that that things are
• 48:32
  trending with with Brent Vinables defense going into the SEC. I think it's worth
• 48:38
  pointing out that things are right on schedule. And what I mean by that
• 48:45
  is, if you go back to venables first tenure at Oklahoma, if you
• 48:52
  go back to his tenure at Clemson, year three, year one was bad,
• 49:00
  your two was pretty good. Year three became elite, elite, And
• 49:07
  I think even though Oklahoma is heading into the SEC, it's definitely worth pointing
• 49:15
  out if there's one thing that the Big twelve does well it's offense. Offensive
• 49:22
  coaches in the Big Twelve. Offensive schemes in the Big Twelve are tough.
• 49:24
  They just are. They just are. So I think that given the situation
• 49:30
  and the uniqueness, there's probably still gonna be since I worry about that,
• 49:36
  But the reason why, the reason why those teams become good. Brent Venables
• 49:45
  has been so successful at keeping draft eligible players for a year longer than maybe
• 49:53
  some other coaches would have been able to do. He's done that throughout is
• 49:59
  I don't remember the Clemson defensive linement, was it Dexter Warrence? That there
• 50:04
  were several guys on that team that stayed for another year? And it's been
• 50:08
  so long since Oklahoma has had I mean guys, really, I mean,
• 50:15
  you're you're, you're you lose Rondel Bothrood and Isaiah Co on the defensive line
• 50:19
  as starters. There's more guys in there, but as starters, you lose
• 50:22
  those two. An argument could be made that you you throw Deshaun Terry in
• 50:29
  there, and he kind of offsets Co as a starter. You're you're you're
• 50:34
  bringing back nine technical starters up to eleven. Really, if you look at
• 50:38
  it that way, you're gonna have one of the most experienced defenses in the
• 50:45
  country. When's the last time you could say that about Oklahoma? That's Those
• 50:50
  are the things that I think people lose sight of, is those off seasons
• 50:57
  that you stack in the same system. We've guy We've got Ethan Downs,
• 51:01
  Billy Bowman, Woody Washington, and Danny Stutsman. All four of those guys
• 51:07
  have played two years under Brent Vinnables. They were here before Brent Vinnables got
• 51:13
  here, and they're heading into their final seasons as we all expect, but
• 51:20
  they're all playing together still, and I think that that year, that extra
• 51:23
  year, that extra offseason, it's really really good for the Sooners. So
• 51:29
  you know, be cautious, be whatever you are. You know, Oklahoma
• 51:32
  fans, I think have been hurt more than anybody over the years in college
• 51:37
  football, just with how close they've been to greatness. But I do think
• 51:42
  you can at least look at the trajectory of where Oklahoma is headed, and
• 51:46
  I think the defense has a really good chance of being one of the best
• 51:52
  in the SEC. And I don't say that lightly. I mean experience is
• 51:55
  everything. They've got the dudes, and they've got Brent vn and Vinables at
• 52:00
  thirty years old now, so yeah, no, And that leads perfectly into
• 52:07
  one thought that I had about this team, like, if there's a concern
• 52:10
  about Oklahoma, I'm gonna be a one hundred percent on as transparent as a
• 52:15
  fan, as someone that pays attention to tries to analyze things and try to
• 52:17
  pretend to be smart. I'm going to give you, guys one thing.
• 52:21
  Twenty twenty seven is the year that I'm nervous about Oklahoma. And I say
• 52:24
  that because again, four thousand snaps by freshman, redshirt, freshman, and
• 52:29
  sophomore this past season, number one among ranked teams in college football. That's
• 52:35
  a lot of young players playing. Those guys will get about three years together.
• 52:39
  And as Brian mentioned, BC said it perfectly, Rerevinables is infamous for
• 52:44
  getting guys to come back on the defensive side a year longer than they probably
• 52:46
  should. Kind of like Florida State, did I mean Florida State was there?
• 52:50
  You know they were able to go thirteen to zero. Unfortunately for them,
• 52:53
  if Jerry Verse got hurt instead of you know, Jordan Travis, they
• 52:57
  probably make the playoffs. But they we got Jared Verse, who was a
• 53:00
  top ten pick that year to come back one more year, and Venables is
• 53:06
  known for doing that same thing. We're probably gonna have a lot of upper
• 53:12
  classmen stick around. Plus this twenty four class, which I think is our
• 53:15
  best defensive line class we've had since the McCoy era, and you're gonna have
• 53:20
  all of them all the way through twenty twenty six. By twenty twenty six,
• 53:23
  most of them dudes are gonna be chunking the deuces right because you're gonna
• 53:27
  have a lot of dudes that gonna be eligible to get drafted, and they're
• 53:29
  gonna probably go early. They may go early because they'll be that good potentially,
• 53:34
  so down the line over these next three years, twenty four is gonna
• 53:37
  be fun, twenty five is gonna be wow, twenty six is gonna be
• 53:42
  okay. I think twenty five will probably be our best defensive team under Venables
• 53:46
  period. I think they be hands down the best one. You'll still have
• 53:49
  the young dudes playing, and you'll still have, like the last ye years
• 53:52
  of those linebackers that really stand out. We'll just have to see what the
• 53:57
  classes look like that they're stacking up in what poor guys they can bring in
• 54:00
  to add to the mix. But I really think that going into twenty five
• 54:05
  is gonna done so next season because we're bringing in technically nine out of the
• 54:08
  eleven starters on the defensive side of the ball even more helps what Ali's trying
• 54:14
  to do with him hiring Ali and what Venables is trying to do. We're
• 54:17
  bringing into young DC. He doesn't have to really teach too many guys too
• 54:22
  much. The linebackers have been in this system for two years and they're now
• 54:27
  starting. They're gonna grow. Can it should have that big stutsman jump this
• 54:30
  year. This is the year where he'll recognize they're baiting me. Stop being
• 54:35
  fast, to being fast to mistakes right going full sprint to it. We're
• 54:39
  gonna get better because of that. So all right, thank you AL for
• 54:44
  pulling up. Hit the like button, new to the channel, subscribe rate
• 54:46
  review if you're listening to the audio version. Appreciating BC pulling up. All
• 54:51
  right, let's talk about the past season and we'll go from there. Talk
• 54:54
  a little natty and we'll wrap things up. I want to give some awards
• 54:59
  out and everybody this list of awards and when to give out right, we
• 55:02
  want to talk about the MVPs we feel like in performance and y'all want you
• 55:07
  to hop into comments and tell us who y'all think as well. We did
• 55:10
  this in the discord, but we want to put these out in the streets
• 55:14
  too. Offensive MVP. I'm gonna give y'all mind pass to the panel.
• 55:19
  You can give your comments about it afterwards. My offensive MVP is gonna go
• 55:22
  to Dylan Gabriel. He showed up, showed out. He really did leave
• 55:25
  the offense man he when when he was allowed to play like an Heisman candidate.
• 55:30
  He looked like inn Heisman candidate all season. The only time he didn't
• 55:35
  like a Heisman candidate is when the cuffs were thrown on him in a game.
• 55:38
  But he looked good. He actually and I think it was a yeah
• 55:43
  was you Coople mentioned it? He has a backup behind him, so he
• 55:45
  looked like he played with confidence. Actually, BC, you mentioned that he
• 55:49
  had a backup behind him, so he played with more confidence because you could
• 55:52
  kind of let loose. You know, he runs the ball and truck somebody
• 55:55
  like it in Iowa State for the touchdown. I mean he's trucking dude,
• 55:59
  run, running into dudes against Texas, trying to run in and get touchdown.
• 56:02
  He played with so much aggression that I just wish that he would have
• 56:07
  been unleashed in that Kansas game and we would have had a completely different outlook.
• 56:12
  But MVP for me goes to dg BC. Who'd you have as your
• 56:15
  MVP? Yeah? I had DG as well. I mean the guy I
• 56:21
  mean he damn near cleared fifty touchdowns. I mean, like, yeah,
• 56:24
  no, he was good. I mean he played really, really well and
• 56:29
  the twelve rushing touchdowns. I think having Jackson Arnold behind him it kind of
• 56:35
  gave the staff a little more confidence to cut him loose. And he played
• 56:37
  well and he played with a chip on his shoulder this year like he was.
• 56:42
  He was really good, and he was he was clean. He did
• 56:44
  a I believe his QBR finished top four in the country. Like the guy
• 56:49
  was. Guy was solid. You know what's crazy about this, and this
• 56:52
  is just the perception of how college football is and how important perception is in
• 56:59
  this game because it's become pretty political. But if he wins one of those
• 57:05
  two games, he's probably a Heisman finalist. Like, I mean, he
• 57:10
  was right there. I I don't think he wins it, Honestly, and
• 57:15
  that's another conversation before we leave. We need to we need to bring something
• 57:19
  up about the Heisman. But yeah, I think he was. He was
• 57:22
  every bit as good as as Oklahoma fans could have hoped. And the big
• 57:28
  thing is he's He's gonna go down as as a guy that that probably doesn't
• 57:34
  get as many flowers as he deserves for what he did while he was here,
• 57:37
  just because he was the quarterback on the team when it when it went
• 57:40
  six and seven, But he did set the trajectory back for for Oklahoma quarterbacks,
• 57:46
  set them back up uh to head in the right direction. So uh
• 57:52
  DG was my guy too for offensive MVP go because you guys both win in
• 57:58
  the d G. I'm gonna actually make a full on, blown out case
• 58:01
  for Drake Stoops. Love it will I will argue, I will think this.
• 58:09
  You put anybody else in the country in the history of Oklahoma sport of
• 58:15
  football in the slot receiver position this year, they do not match what Drake
• 58:21
  did. I'm taking any other slot receiver in the country, any slot receiver
• 58:28
  in the history of Oklahoma football. And here's why I think Drake Stoops saved
• 58:34
  so many bad passes, so many tipped balls, he blocked his backside off.
• 58:40
  I promise you that if you put in and I'm gonna pick out,
• 58:44
  I'm gonna pick out somebody like a you slide instead of Drake put Lee Morris,
• 58:50
  who all he did was catch touchdowns, right, you put him there.
• 58:53
  I don't think he makes some of the shoe string catches. I don't
• 58:59
  think he he holds onto the ball sometimes that Drake's Drake Stoops has got CTE
• 59:04
  after this year alone. Not. I mean that dude got hit so hard
• 59:08
  so often and he put his life. I mean, I kid you not.
• 59:13
  I don't we need a statue of Drake Stoops or some kind of acknowledgment
• 59:19
  of Drake Stoops on campus because I think he seemed single handedly it was I
• 59:24
  mean, he let's give him a you know, the thousand yards and was
• 59:28
  it twelve touchdowns? It was it was up okay, so double digit touchdowns.
• 59:36
  But the number of passes that he caught that you give a very very
• 59:42
  very small. I mean, this is an Oracle an AI, Amazon AI
• 59:45
  or whatever commercial where they do the like two percent chance to catch the ball,
• 59:51
  like he just he just he caught so many things he didn't have any
• 59:53
  business catching. And I think that it saved so many drives, It saved
• 59:58
  us from so many bad situations. I think without him we probably lose at
• 1:00:04
  least one more game without direct ships this year. Yeah, and you made
• 1:00:07
  a good point about that. I mean, he let the Big twelve.
• 1:00:10
  He was second in receptions, he was he was leading in touchdowns up into
• 1:00:14
  the bowl game. He finished the season second touchdowns at ten, and he
• 1:00:20
  finished number five in yards in conference. Like, there's a good argument for
• 1:00:25
  him on offense, MVP. So I wouldn't fight you on that one.
• 1:00:29
  All right, defense defensive MVP. I'm gonna go ahead. I'm gonna go
• 1:00:32
  a little off the wire when we did it in my discord, you know
• 1:00:36
  I was running with studs. But to be honest, giving it to Bowman,
• 1:00:38
  dude, three interceptions return for a touchdown. He finished with what five
• 1:00:43
  on the season. He was everywhere, and he was he was a missile
• 1:00:46
  in those that hit on Sanders. Man made Sanders go ahead, I'm declared
• 1:00:51
  for the draft. He's like, wait, Bill, he's coming back.
• 1:00:53
  Oh no, I'm out. And the funny thing is they know each other,
• 1:00:55
  if I'm correct, they went the high school together. Or they went
• 1:00:59
  to rifle high schoo. Yeah, so he's like, no, I ain't
• 1:01:01
  now that that dude, gonn target me again. I'm good, I'm out.
• 1:01:06
  So Billy Bowman forced a Texas tight end to hit the draft. I
• 1:01:08
  got to give it to him as as an MVP, Coop, I pass
• 1:01:12
  it to you this time. All right, I'm gonna homage to gay bikerd
• 1:01:20
  here. I was gonna go with Isaiah Co because Isaiah Coe and I've and
• 1:01:27
  I've used his name in a manner like he ends the season in the bowl
• 1:01:31
  game with his best game that he's had as a Sooner. He was the
• 1:01:36
  most consistent defensive lineman that we had this year. I use Isaiah Isaiah.
• 1:01:44
  I'm gonna text him. I'm gonna video myself apologizing him and then send it
• 1:01:47
  to him. But you know, we used him as the name that you
• 1:01:53
  toss right next to Jag. Just a guy, and this year he maximized
• 1:02:01
  his I mean he maximized his talent, his ability to learn this system.
• 1:02:07
  And so I think there, but I gotta give it to Stutsman. You
• 1:02:13
  made a comment earlier. I mean we lose two games. I think we
• 1:02:15
  ft around at a level six and found out at a level eight on offense,
• 1:02:20
  and that's why we lost those two games. But it's no coincidence that
• 1:02:22
  Danny wasn't there because I think he even though he was on the sideline,
• 1:02:27
  I think that there's just something. It's like it's hard for you to half
• 1:02:30
  ask something when Danny comes off the field and looks you in the eye,
• 1:02:34
  like you can't do it. And so unless your name here's roommate. But
• 1:02:39
  I fully want to say Danny stutsman. I mean at one point, I
• 1:02:45
  mean I could have. I was gonna not make an ou claim like some
• 1:02:50
  of our fans have done, like if we beat Texas all x y Z,
• 1:02:53
  but like I would have said, if he doesn't win the buck Kiss,
• 1:02:57
  you know, I'll pay five hundred dollars. The first person who DMS
• 1:02:59
  me, I thought he was a shoe in for the Buckiss and he was
• 1:03:02
  just phenomenal. So I mean, I gotta go with Danny. I like
• 1:03:07
  that BC. I promise I'm not just copying you, man. Billy Bowman's
• 1:03:13
  who I had too, and I think that the the play that kind of
• 1:03:16
  encapsulates his season is obviously that pick six against against b Yu. I have
• 1:03:23
  to. I have to be specific because he had several, but the pick
• 1:03:29
  six against b Yu. I think Oklahoma loses that game if that play didn't
• 1:03:34
  happen. I was there. You're not wrong. I was there. I
• 1:03:39
  was right on the sideline the I mean BYU was was right in win territory.
• 1:03:45
  I mean they were right on the cusp of having it. He doesn't
• 1:03:49
  make that play, and did you guys, do you guys remember or did
• 1:03:52
  you hear the story on the play on how all of that went down.
• 1:03:57
  Yeah, he was supposed to blitz and he pulled back in saw something.
• 1:04:00
  Yeah, he said, uh, they got mixed up on things and saw
• 1:04:04
  that that guy was coming wide open, and he said he just ran to
• 1:04:09
  cover and the ball pretty much just landed right in his hands like he did.
• 1:04:12
  It was it was one of those things. And he had the lean
• 1:04:15
  forward. That's why he got behind the receiver because he had the lean award
• 1:04:17
  for his blitz exact he couldn't, so he just kind of it looked like
• 1:04:21
  he floated out. He was just a no man's land. He didn't know
• 1:04:25
  what he was doing. And then the ball's coming at him and he ran
• 1:04:30
  like he stole something Man, which I would have to because it was the
• 1:04:33
  quarterback for b Yu. It feels like he thought that Bowman was gonna blitz
• 1:04:38
  too. Yeah. It was like he read the play, he was his
• 1:04:41
  defense was gonna come and as soon as he was like rewind rewind Yeah exactly.
• 1:04:48
  No man. I mean, look, I thought the fact that Billy
• 1:04:53
  Bowman wasn't a Thorpe Award finalist, like what are we doing this awards from
• 1:04:58
  Oklahoma? Like get it was just it was just weird to me. I
• 1:05:03
  don't understand. But again, that's a guy name recognition is so big on
• 1:05:08
  things like that. He's a first teamer next year. I think this is
• 1:05:13
  a guy that's gonna be He'll be one of those guys that makes up on
• 1:05:15
  the wall for Oklahoma. Yeah, the the leadership, the guys that he's
• 1:05:20
  got around him in that room. I mean, that safety room looks like
• 1:05:24
  it hasn't in Oklahoma in years, and Bowman's best guy in that room.
• 1:05:29
  And here's the thing is is, I know Danny Stutsman's the guy that's literally
• 1:05:33
  grabbing people and lining them up and throwing them where they need to be,
• 1:05:36
  you know, but Bowman's just as important when it comes to having all that
• 1:05:42
  stuff set up the right way, and I think he really showed out this
• 1:05:45
  year and really reached his potential. Guy special man, Oh you getting him
• 1:05:51
  back is that's so big? That's such that's such a big boost for that
• 1:05:55
  team. Huge for what we're trying to do going with the next season.
• 1:05:58
  All Right, special teams, Special teams, m v P. I'm gonna
• 1:06:00
  get to Alzinga. That man was punting his butt off when we need to
• 1:06:03
  go ahead and make him punt. I'm just gonna keep it simple, BC.
• 1:06:09
  I actually want Peyton bone here. Yeah, man, he had a
• 1:06:16
  hey, look, guys, when he was healthy before the ankle injury and
• 1:06:23
  him dealing with all that stuff, the dude was just a difference maker.
• 1:06:27
  Like I mean, two block punts. He just he's gonna be special,
• 1:06:31
  Guys. If he's not already, he's gonna be special. I don't really
• 1:06:36
  have to go into it any further than that. That guy, whenever he
• 1:06:41
  becomes, whenever he steps into a roll bigger than he's in right now,
• 1:06:45
  it's it's gonna be huge. And yeah, Elzinga needs his flowers. That
• 1:06:48
  man got a rocket for a leg. I don't know why Josh Plaster was
• 1:06:51
  out there. No offense to the guy. But I mean, you know,
• 1:06:54
  Elzinga got it, so I'll offend him. Plaster. You lost your
• 1:06:59
  aster, I ka your job, and Elzinga never give it back. Goodness
• 1:07:03
  gracious, but no, I hey, I put el Zinga. But I
• 1:07:06
  was gonna do my whole like I was going to go with Peyton Bowen.
• 1:07:10
  But now it doesn't. The the transfer one of the transfers came in and
• 1:07:14
  he's got four blocked kicks, ye know, in the season, and so
• 1:07:17
  now they got now they're gonna have to have a little battle royal and just
• 1:07:20
  start blocking kicks every time they get a chance. Mm hmm yeah Willard,
• 1:07:25
  Yeah, Willard has four of them. Well, yeah, that's that's a
• 1:07:28
  timing thing, especially at his size him coming in it was he's like two
• 1:07:31
  sixties like to sixty something. That's a that's pretty it's pretty good for for
• 1:07:36
  you know, at his size, were to get in there. Bowman is
• 1:07:40
  Bowen is Peyton Bowen is just so good at just hawking the ball, defensively,
• 1:07:45
  tackling, just he's he's just really good at playing himself in the right
• 1:07:49
  spot. And those two blocks. Good point that's actually, uh, he
• 1:07:51
  probably should have won that from me too. I was just thinking just putting
• 1:07:56
  the kick, and I was just wasn't really paying thinking really because it's been
• 1:07:59
  a while since he has been dealing with that ankle injury. We haven't got
• 1:08:01
  to see him do it again. But yeah, one hundred percent, Yeah,
• 1:08:06
  I agree with that, all right, offensive most improved. Somebody asked
• 1:08:13
  his question in here earlier when we were talking about Drake mom is Nick Anderson.
• 1:08:16
  Nick walked in there as a redshirt freshman, led the nation in yards
• 1:08:23
  per catch and looked good doing it like he was Nick six. At one
• 1:08:28
  point right about half of his catches were touchdowns, And if we could have
• 1:08:30
  found a way to just keep feeding him like that, yeah, he's gonna
• 1:08:33
  do more. But I think that that improvement and the coaching ability of Emmett
• 1:08:39
  Jones, man, I think that wide receiver room is gonna be just dumb
• 1:08:43
  next year, just dumb. So excited about that. I gave it to
• 1:08:46
  Nick six on that one. Cool, We'll go to you, Yeah,
• 1:08:50
  Nick six, I mean he's he's he was again coming into this year.
• 1:08:56
  You had Jaden Gibson, Nick Anderson. It's showed me State time, like
• 1:09:00
  you just got to show me because this is this is ridiculous. So yeah,
• 1:09:03
  you gotta go with Nick six because he came out and like you said,
• 1:09:08
  I mean, at one point was like eight touchdowns and like fourteen and
• 1:09:11
  fourteen catches or something silly, And you know, he's a I think that
• 1:09:15
  he's still learning the position. So shout out to Emma Jones because he's pretty
• 1:09:21
  good at his job. So I was going, I was going Nick Anderson
• 1:09:27
  too for a bit, but I actually flipped over to Drake Stoops and we've
• 1:09:33
  already talked We've already talked about him for a bit, so I'll keep this
• 1:09:36
  part simple. Stat line eighty receptions, nine hundred and fourteen yards, seven
• 1:09:45
  touchdowns. That is Drake Stoops combined stats from the twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen,
• 1:09:51
  twenty twenty, twenty twenty one, and twenty twenty two seasons, eighty
• 1:09:56
  catches, nine hundred and fourteen yards, seven touchdowns. In twenty three,
• 1:09:59
  he he had eighty four catches, nine hundred and sixty two yards and ten
• 1:10:03
  touchdowns. So he outperformed his entire five year career in one season. That's
• 1:10:10
  tough. I don't care who you are. That's tough. That's I mean,
• 1:10:13
  he bawled out the other guy that I thought about for a bit.
• 1:10:17
  And this was kind of a different spin on the most improved Gavin Sawchuk from
• 1:10:24
  Week one to Gavin Sawchuck Bowl Game. Oh wow, huge, I mean,
• 1:10:30
  guy, I mean the argument could be made that there may not have
• 1:10:33
  been a better running back over the last five games in the country than Gavin
• 1:10:38
  Sawchuck. It was over one hundred yards every game. I mean, he
• 1:10:41
  played really well and there's not really a question who the lead back is and
• 1:10:45
  going into next season. And in the SMU game, I mean we didn't
• 1:10:51
  know when nobody had any idea. So yeah, he needs his flowers too.
• 1:10:56
  But Drake Stoops, he's a stud man. That's a good point.
• 1:11:00
  And I love that you brought up all his numbers up into this season and
• 1:11:03
  how he just outdid them combined. It's just crazy hell of a season.
• 1:11:10
  And even with the sawt truck piece the end of the year, I mean
• 1:11:13
  finished the year with five straight hundred yard games that that room was so beat
• 1:11:17
  up, you know, coming into the season, we thought that was our
• 1:11:20
  strongest room. Right then, the wide receiver room basically took over and said
• 1:11:25
  no, no, no, we're number one. We're gonna do We're gonna
• 1:11:28
  take over. And they were the they were the best part of this team
• 1:11:32
  And the unfortunate part with the running backs was, like I said, they
• 1:11:34
  weren't healthy most of the year and still trying to get themselves back into confidence
• 1:11:40
  in like the hamstring and the foot, those injuries they just had. They
• 1:11:44
  just now that they're looking healthy, I bet your barns would be you have
• 1:11:48
  a year off that foot to really let it recover from that surgery. He
• 1:11:53
  had. Sawtchuk and get that handy going. Meg would got a run and
• 1:11:57
  that told me that he's probably gonna start see some carries. He's probably gonna
• 1:12:00
  be a ten carrier game. Guy. Hell make it you one hundred yards
• 1:12:03
  at those ten carries, which I'm not gonna complain, but you know,
• 1:12:06
  after what he did to his knee made your wonder. But yeah, that
• 1:12:11
  was that was big. So excited about that. All right, defensive most
• 1:12:15
  improved. So I struggled with this one because the one I wanted to give
• 1:12:19
  it to is Kendall Doby. But Kendall was new. He's more of a
• 1:12:23
  newcomer. He's more of a portal MVP candidate than he is actually a defensive
• 1:12:29
  improved because he wasn't here last year. So if I'm going, I prove
• 1:12:32
  gotta give to Gentry Williams. That dude Baner's shut down sat a side of
• 1:12:39
  the field. And the best part about it is Gentry got his interceptions this
• 1:12:43
  past season because teams did not want to throw the ball to Woody Washington,
• 1:12:46
  right like some fans in everybody, Oh, he's not that good. Obviously
• 1:12:49
  he is. If teams decided they want to test a young dude to not
• 1:12:53
  go after the wood because they could have went out the Woody of all season,
• 1:12:55
  but they didn't. They decided that they wanted to go after Gentry because
• 1:12:59
  they didn't know him, they didn't know what he had to offer and all
• 1:13:01
  of that. And then the dude gets out there and gets three interceptions.
• 1:13:03
  Now, the big thing with him was he couldn't hit that shoulder. He
• 1:13:08
  was messing the shoulder up, which he probably gonna get that cleaned up here
• 1:13:10
  in the off season, which is a good thing. But dealing with that
• 1:13:13
  shoulder, he you know, he was in and out, but when he
• 1:13:15
  was playing, now here's your field dude, and that's a hard position to
• 1:13:20
  have to to cover that much space. He was terrorizing quarterback. They were
• 1:13:27
  geting, they were get nervous. They was get rid of bo a quick
• 1:13:29
  as possible, not only from my rush, but they were trying to get
• 1:13:31
  Gentry off base as much as possible. When the Doe finish the season,
• 1:13:34
  like I said, with three interceptions and him making Quinn when he Quinn double
• 1:13:39
  clutched and he read his eyes immediately cut across and got that pick against Texas,
• 1:13:43
  I was like, Yep, that dude's gonna be a monster. I
• 1:13:45
  already knew it. He went to Booker t and Tolsa. I'm from there.
• 1:13:48
  I went to high school there. People there have told me dude's gonna
• 1:13:51
  be legit. Yeah, he's gonna definitely be one. So I say most
• 1:13:55
  improved defensively was really hard. Got to give it to Gentry BC. Who's
• 1:13:59
  your d defensive most improved player? So I guess I'm breaking the rules here
• 1:14:03
  because this guy was a transfer, but it was a it was a very
• 1:14:10
  unique situation. Jacob Lacy guys the fact that he had pulmonary embolisms in his
• 1:14:21
  lungs to show think about that the guy had pulmonary embolisms in his in his
• 1:14:30
  lungs and didn't know if he was going to play football. Ever, again,
• 1:14:35
  he didn't just play per PFF. He led the defensive line in snaps.
• 1:14:44
  He played three hundred and eighty five snaps at defensive tackle. So,
• 1:14:49
  look, I can't I can't even begin to explain how incredible that is.
• 1:14:58
  He missed fall camp, like the guy wasn't able to do summer workouts.
• 1:15:02
  He was fighting for his life. I mean, this is something you're you're
• 1:15:05
  you're not. Your livelihood's going to be completely changed. The stat line,
• 1:15:11
  Look, you can't really, you can't really grade defensive tackles off of a
• 1:15:16
  stat line individual, especially in a Brent Vinable's defense. Their job is to
• 1:15:20
  eat up blocks. That's what they do. I mean, that's why David
• 1:15:23
  Stustman has the seasons that he's had. But he had fourteen tackles, three
• 1:15:28
  tackles for loss, a sack, three hits or excuse me, apologize,
• 1:15:33
  wrong person, seventeen tackles, twenty five two point five tackles for loss,
• 1:15:38
  a sack, a hit, three quarterback curries. He played really, really
• 1:15:42
  well. He obviously led the team and snaps there at the position for Todd
• 1:15:47
  Bates, which is huge. Another guy that needs needs his flowers here and
• 1:15:53
  I did think about taking this one was Jordan Kelly. That's a guy that's
• 1:15:57
  going to get lost in the fold. Is is guy? Is that that
• 1:16:00
  Oklahoma's going to miss that you know, fans aren't really going to think of.
• 1:16:03
  But for him to stick around and do what he did and turn into
• 1:16:06
  the player that he did for Oklahoma, this is incredible. I mean,
• 1:16:12
  Todd Bates was was was able to kind of revive his career and he played
• 1:16:15
  really well here to finish the year. But Jacob Lacy's who I went with.
• 1:16:18
  I mean, it is an incredible story that that's a really good story.
• 1:16:23
  I actually so glad that you share that because but didn't know that I
• 1:16:27
  like that cool Ethan Downs. I thought one I thought when Ethan Downs was
• 1:16:35
  put on the preseason All American list, I mean I compared it and I
• 1:16:39
  thought it was more ridiculous than Iguebu being on the previous years. You know,
• 1:16:44
  it was essentially like I hear things about this guy could do, let's
• 1:16:48
  put him there, And you know I was on record like saying he was
• 1:16:54
  probably not going to be. I was like, I bet he doesn't start
• 1:16:59
  games. Ethan Downs statistically didn't have a phenomenal year, but he was so
• 1:17:06
  disruptive and when when I mean when it was tackling me from a sack standpoint,
• 1:17:14
  but like his his you know, within two yards to two yard loss
• 1:17:19
  in that four yard area right, you know, on both sides of the
• 1:17:23
  line of scrimmage, Ethan Downs, that was his land and you didn't come
• 1:17:27
  into his land. And when he made plays, they were super impactful.
• 1:17:31
  And you know, again, he is just one of those guys who at
• 1:17:38
  the beginning of the year I thought, just leave him on the sideline,
• 1:17:41
  please for the love of God. And then at the end of the year
• 1:17:44
  I'd see something going on and be like, hey, this is a big
• 1:17:45
  play. Wise, Ethan Down's not in there just because he may not sack
• 1:17:49
  the quarterback, but you know what's going to happen. He's going to push
• 1:17:51
  him right into somebody else, or he's going to make them get the ball
• 1:17:55
  out and somebody else is going to pick the ball off. So I mean,
• 1:17:59
  he is just one of those most He just had a disruptive season,
• 1:18:01
  and you know, I'd say that Ethan Downs apology bandwagon starts here. I
• 1:18:09
  appreciate the fact that you decided that you were gonna go ahead, you know,
• 1:18:13
  and apologize like that. You know, not too many people can can
• 1:18:16
  can handle doing that. And that's actually a really good thing because you know,
• 1:18:20
  when I looked at him when you mentioned Downs, that's that's a good
• 1:18:25
  one because he was actually thirteenth And if you take the Oklahoma Texas and then
• 1:18:31
  all the SEC schools on PFF, he was thirteenth in hurries A twenty two.
• 1:18:36
  Like he was getting pressure. He had his five he hit his what
• 1:18:41
  six sacks, three hits and in twenty two hurries mean thirty one total pressures.
• 1:18:45
  That's pretty good if you, I mean, if you're in the top
• 1:18:49
  fifteen of the SEC. The new SEC. He did some damaged so that
• 1:18:57
  actually has a really good choice. Thing about him is like that is a
• 1:19:03
  that's a perfect He's the epitome of a Brent Vinnables guy. Like, yeah,
• 1:19:08
  he does he does everything by the book. I mean he is yeah,
• 1:19:13
  I mean he is a Yeah, he's he's a I mean, he's
• 1:19:15
  a man. He's a man of the word. He's all I mean,
• 1:19:17
  he's all about he's all about it. He's all about everything, and he
• 1:19:21
  does everything one hundred percent. I mean he's a he's a great I mean
• 1:19:25
  one of my favorite, one of my favorite guys to interview. He's he's
• 1:19:29
  just fantastic. Yep. He was number fifteen for the SEC including Oklahoma and
• 1:19:32
  Texas per PFF in just total pressures at thirty five. You know, I
• 1:19:39
  said thirty five total. He's thirty one total. He was fifteenth and as
• 1:19:43
  Hank as Hank says it, he owned the halftime of the Sugar Bowl.
• 1:19:46
  Yes he did, he did. He did. Listen, he made a
• 1:19:49
  lot of a lot of fun. Did you guys see the video going around
• 1:19:57
  to the lady up in the just going after going? I mean it was
• 1:20:00
  long, like he's such a nice person because I would have outed her in
• 1:20:04
  a heartbeat and I would have put that dmer like hey here you go,
• 1:20:09
  guys. Happened then I said it it's not even I mean, that wasn't
• 1:20:13
  like a twenty one year old you know, co ed traveling. That was
• 1:20:15
  like a fifty year old lady's hands or like an upper forties like whoever that
• 1:20:19
  was? So that that is that is somebody's mama. You know, maybe
• 1:20:24
  on the team, but she was. It was. It was terrific that
• 1:20:29
  well played there, Ethan hornets downs. That's gonna be his name going forward.
• 1:20:34
  All right, Portal MVP and they will wrap it up with coaches with
• 1:20:40
  which one of the coaches get you get your award Portal. So this is
• 1:20:45
  where I struggled. I had to I had to go co on this one.
• 1:20:48
  I don't like going co typically. I only did it because I didn't
• 1:20:53
  do a O and d I just did it as one award. I gotta
• 1:20:58
  give it to Andrea Anthony Kendall Doba. And technically Dobe's not a portal guy
• 1:21:03
  either because he's a Juco guy. So but I had to lump him in
• 1:21:06
  there. I found a way. Kendall Adobe was so good at the Cheetah
• 1:21:11
  and at the at the nickel and at the corner when you needed him do
• 1:21:15
  so reliable, so reliable, so rough, liable at that Dobe was he
• 1:21:23
  When I saw him come in at Juco, was like, Okay, I
• 1:21:26
  think he's gonna be special. And he exceeded my expectations. And I had
• 1:21:29
  high expectations of coming in the only thing that concerned me was his height five
• 1:21:33
  ten ish or whatnot. And when we talked to Reggie Pearson here on the
• 1:21:38
  show, Reggie was basically saying he was like, look, if Kendall gets
• 1:21:41
  out of his own head, dude's gonna be elite. And the look he
• 1:21:43
  got out of his own head because he was out there being elite, He's
• 1:21:45
  gonna be dangerous next season. Oh, I'm so excited they just got him.
• 1:21:50
  Just move him around the field. Play him at free safety, throw
• 1:21:53
  him at corner, put him at nickel, put him at cheetah, put
• 1:21:55
  him in middle linebacker. I don't care. Find ways to get that made
• 1:22:00
  on the field. And he's gonna be on the field more too, because
• 1:22:01
  Harrington's coming back. So yeah, there we go. Yeah. I mean
• 1:22:09
  they're expecting him to come back, expecting that medical wad a chair to cot,
• 1:22:12
  that medical waver to come through. We're gonna look at that. It's
• 1:22:16
  just saying next to him, Andrew Anthony was my offensive guy. If I
• 1:22:21
  had to go to we know we will do two positions. Andrew Anthony unfortunately
• 1:22:26
  tears his acl against Texas in that game where he was about to go off.
• 1:22:30
  We saw a little dip in our offensive production because he really did take
• 1:22:33
  up a lot of attention. But when he came in from Michigan, I
• 1:22:39
  had a whole bunch of y'all. And I'm saying y'all in these comments because
• 1:22:43
  I love y'all. I'm calling some y'all out y'all. Am my comments talking
• 1:22:46
  about the dude were Michigan in either water water, we get him. I'm
• 1:22:48
  just like it's okay, probably because he wasn't in the depth chart moving up
• 1:22:54
  like we need. He's you're not. Just watch what he's able to do.
• 1:22:58
  He's got the blow of the top off speed that we want, and
• 1:23:01
  I bet you he's gonna be There's something about him that emmittt Jones and them
• 1:23:05
  said, yeah, we need to go for him. Emmitt was hired at
• 1:23:06
  the same day, and I think Emmitt actually was recruiting him before he even
• 1:23:11
  official quote unquote took the job. Well, he took the job, but
• 1:23:13
  he wasn't officially on the job. Then he walks in and becomes wide receiver
• 1:23:16
  one and Nick Anderson had a great year, right. That is crazy to
• 1:23:21
  me that he walked in and said, now I'm gonna take the number one
• 1:23:25
  spot, even with Drakes Twopsander, I'm gonna be on number one receiver and
• 1:23:29
  if he did not get hurt, he easily has one hundred catches this season,
• 1:23:33
  easily, And I think DG's numbers get eating more, even more inflated
• 1:23:38
  just because of the attention that Andre required out there. So I had to
• 1:23:43
  do that. Andrew Anthony Kendadobe BC, who you got portal guy? I
• 1:23:47
  definitely cheated on this one. I picked. I picked three guys. This
• 1:23:54
  was I just yeah, it was. Look, it was tough for me
• 1:23:59
  to pick these, but two of them is more. Really, they're all
• 1:24:03
  three just about their impact. The first one is an offensive guy is Austin
• 1:24:06
  Stagner like getting him back. Look, I know that there were times when
• 1:24:13
  the blocking in situations was bad, some of the insert stuff blocking on the
• 1:24:17
  perimeter was bad during the middle of the year, but he progressed as a
• 1:24:20
  blocker. But the reason why he is one of my MVPs is because if
• 1:24:27
  you hadn't had him a tight end, that position doesn't see the field,
• 1:24:32
  Like I mean, you're you're you don't have and you can't play effective offense
• 1:24:38
  without a tight end in the passing scheme in the Big twelve, like you
• 1:24:41
  just can't. You need the safeties to have some sort of responsibility for those
• 1:24:46
  guys, and that's you know, so it is what it is. The
• 1:24:48
  other two guys are defensive guys. De Jon Terry, Yeah, dude,
• 1:24:56
  just a dude. Hey, And again this is this is one of those
• 1:25:00
  positions in the defensive interior. It just so hard to know how well a
• 1:25:05
  guy is playing or what kind of effect he's having unless you look around at
• 1:25:12
  what Oklahoma does as a team and whenever Jon Terry comes in the defense from
• 1:25:23
  last year to this year. So, last season, Oklahoma allowed one hundred
• 1:25:29
  and eighty seven point five rushing yards per game. That was one hundred and
• 1:25:32
  fourth nationally. Okay, this year they allowed one hundred and thirty eight point
• 1:25:40
  six that's forty third nationally. It's a sixty one spots better. The improvement
• 1:25:45
  was huge, and so Jeon Terry was one of their best run defenders.
• 1:25:53
  Huge that he's coming back next year. Can't say enough about him. And
• 1:25:57
  then the other guy was Rondell Both somebody opposite of Ethan Downs. No,
• 1:26:03
  he didn't have the sack numbers, but his pressures according to Oklahoma. Now,
• 1:26:10
  you guys all know PFF versus coaches you know, things are gonna look
• 1:26:15
  different with official QB hurries. He led the team with eight. He was
• 1:26:20
  he was, he was around the ball. One play in particular that sticks
• 1:26:25
  out. I believe it was the Texas game where they had to reverse in
• 1:26:30
  a goal line situation set up and Bothood sees it the whole way and it
• 1:26:35
  changes the feel of that entire drive. It just stemied what Texas was doing.
• 1:26:42
  Bothroyd was a he was a veteran presence and he kind of allowed our
• 1:26:48
  Mason Thomas wasn't who we hoped you would be this season because of injury for
• 1:26:53
  most of the year. Bothroyd gave you a good guy on that on that
• 1:26:57
  side of the ball. So those are my three. I know I heated,
• 1:27:00
  but it was it was it was worth it. In my opinion,
• 1:27:04
  I agree it was one hundred percent worth. It got great points and I
• 1:27:08
  like giving those players their flowers in that capacity. Who who you riding with?
• 1:27:13
  Yeah, I'm gonna throw I'm gonna throw my nod and not I'm gonna
• 1:27:16
  throw my uh my coach in hair too because I got a bounce, I
• 1:27:20
  got an early, early, early flight in the morning. But I'm going
• 1:27:25
  with andrel you nailed it. I mean literally when the guy went down,
• 1:27:30
  you know, you thought you saw the emergence of so many other guys at
• 1:27:32
  that point, and Frouks still hadn't come out yet, so like we thought,
• 1:27:38
  you know, surely he will soon. But I mean, yeah,
• 1:27:41
  the offense just you know had this. It was on the struggle bus shortly
• 1:27:45
  after that. Uh so gotta gotta say that. And he's gonna, you
• 1:27:49
  know, be ready for fall and hopefully he is, you know, ready
• 1:27:54
  late spring. These a c ls are completely different nowadays. And then you
• 1:28:00
  know you stole it on Delby. I mean, you know, if you
• 1:28:05
  guys remember Brandon Shelby, Brandon Shelby was one of those guys who anytime that
• 1:28:12
  there was like a you know, we had scored to go up and we
• 1:28:15
  really really needed something on the defensive side to you know, just get the
• 1:28:19
  defense off the field and get the offense back on. It'd be this corner
• 1:28:23
  blitz by Dolby and he'd be right there, or there would be a bang
• 1:28:26
  bang play to where you know, defensive back stoped somebody three yards short of
• 1:28:30
  the first down. What it looked like to be just a wide open first
• 1:28:33
  down like, give me. It was always him and at Kendle Delby was
• 1:28:38
  that guy this year. I mean, anytime that you saw his name,
• 1:28:41
  it was a big play. It wasn't him tackling somebody thirty seven yards downfield
• 1:28:45
  and you're like, oh, somebody freaking tackledn't thank god, you know,
• 1:28:49
  not like those it was you know, he had a corner blitz in a
• 1:28:55
  sack at one point that that's when I the Shelby thing kind of hit.
• 1:28:59
  So bro, He's just he's so good. Now, it's you know,
• 1:29:04
  it's it's good that you said to Jon Terry because I was going to say
• 1:29:11
  I expected more sacked numbers, but then I got to think about the BV
• 1:29:15
  defensive line. But I think the thing that he brought was that sec mentality
• 1:29:18
  and that dog mentality on the defensive line, and I think that that gave
• 1:29:23
  them a boost, Like it felt like the rest of offensive line got like
• 1:29:27
  a got a bully that was coming on their side and they were like all
• 1:29:30
  right, yeah. So it kind of like increased the mean streak then,
• 1:29:33
  because for a while there I was like, hold on a second, we
• 1:29:36
  just took a mediocre edge guy thickened him up. And put him as a
• 1:29:41
  starting defensive tackle because nobody else could take the seat from him. And no
• 1:29:45
  disrespect to la Alu, but I thought we got to have somebody show out.
• 1:29:50
  So de John Terry is great because he just developed a bulldog and I
• 1:29:55
  gotta say the coach, you know, without the injuries, I would have
• 1:30:01
  said Valai because because that that unit was crazy. I've gave given Emmett his
• 1:30:08
  props already and so I'll just go with Brandon Hall because the safeties were his
• 1:30:14
  strengthen our defense this year, and it was a it was a stout,
• 1:30:18
  thick room. When you're when you're bouncing Reggie Pearson or you you're like ask
• 1:30:24
  whatever, that's just that's crazy because Reggie Pearson has been on some really really
• 1:30:30
  good defenses and he's a really really good player. But you know, Hall
• 1:30:33
  was just, ah, that's I mean when Day mccaullay is like, I
• 1:30:40
  want to bounce. He's a good player. He was going to be somebody.
• 1:30:44
  You know, he didn't go to Montana State. I mean he went
• 1:30:46
  to Louisville. So I said it multiple times on the show. Is you
• 1:30:51
  know you can't just be a guy and show up and want to play in
• 1:30:55
  the secondary. I know you anymore, but I had got a ounce fellas.
• 1:31:00
  Love you both, just love everybody in the chats. We'll catch back
• 1:31:05
  up, all right, we'll talk to you man, Thank you, all
• 1:31:10
  right. So me and Ryan rapped this bat boy with coaches. My coach
• 1:31:14
  real quick man. So you know, you know, Coop made good point.
• 1:31:17
  We'd give flowers. I gotta keep doing it. Get it to Emma
• 1:31:19
  Jones just because man, right right, it's hard. It's hard to argue
• 1:31:26
  what he did with that room. Like walking into the season, I've set
• 1:31:30
  this so many times. We thought the wide receiver room was our weakest room.
• 1:31:33
  We were gonna summary. Okay, so we delve for Rooke. We
• 1:31:36
  don't know about these young dudes. Everybody's got questions what they gonna look like.
• 1:31:41
  I mean, Drake is you know he catch passes over the middle.
• 1:31:44
  You know he cool. Drake's up there leading stats or top five and stats
• 1:31:49
  for the Big twelve. Right, Nick's out here getting touched in leading the
• 1:31:54
  nation. And like I said, receptions yards per reception, like we got
• 1:31:58
  all of this stuff. We're like, oh, and then Jay Gibson was
• 1:32:00
  holding on to the ball like I mean like our biggest concerns we truly had
• 1:32:06
  in that room, no concerns anymore. And he's elite in the recruiting side,
• 1:32:13
  like I mean for twenty five at least should be right, or unless
• 1:32:15
  he decides he wanted to grab a couple more than he can have athletes and
• 1:32:17
  put them both sides of the ball and share them. So I know right
• 1:32:20
  now there's a fight for Jacoby Johnson between him, Brandon Hall, and Java
• 1:32:26
  l They all kind of, you know, got get in the ring and
• 1:32:29
  say who wins this fight so we can take him for the week or whatnot.
• 1:32:31
  So no, it's just he did everything. He exceeded every expectation.
• 1:32:38
  When we hired him. People question who this dude is. We're bringing in
• 1:32:41
  from Texas Tech? Why would we want a dude that worked at Kansas,
• 1:32:44
  Like was he gonna really be? And then now everybody's like, yeah,
• 1:32:47
  man, I mean jonesie to be offensive coordinator. They do that, so
• 1:32:51
  he'll leave. We do whatever we got to do to keep him here.
• 1:32:55
  Crazy how things turn out, right, I know you're probably going the same
• 1:32:59
  direction I am. Yeah, it's Emmitt Jones. I mean, as you
• 1:33:01
  just said, that was I believe I wrote on ou inside of that was
• 1:33:06
  his biggest question mark coming in was was wide receiver. Everybody was worried about
• 1:33:12
  it. Didn't know who was going to catch passes. Now he's got the
• 1:33:14
  room he does. But here's the thing. This, this is what kind
• 1:33:17
  of this was what shows you what kind of man they got. I mean,
• 1:33:21
  they got a dude at wide receiver, at wide receiver coach. He
• 1:33:26
  goes in in twenty twenty four, he gets Zion Kearney, he gets Ivan
• 1:33:30
  Carrion, and then he gets uh Zion ra Raggins. On top of all
• 1:33:36
  of that, he goes into the transfer portal head to head against Texas,
• 1:33:42
  who was about to lose their top two wide receivers to the draft, and
• 1:33:46
  says, nah, demn Burke, you want to come to Norman. You
• 1:33:49
  don't want to go to Austin. Yeah, like yeah, that that's cool
• 1:33:54
  and everything, But did you see what Drake Stoops just did the slow position,
• 1:33:57
  Like I mean, if you want, let me help you out,
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  and he lands him. It's like the guy is just he's incredible. He's
• 1:34:04
  incredible. He's incredible on the field. Uh, those guys really they blocked
• 1:34:11
  their tails off the wide receiver room just continues to be physical, and that's
• 1:34:15
  something that he is is. Uh, you know, he's pounded in their
• 1:34:17
  heads and and it's showing on the on the recruiting trails. Well, twenty
• 1:34:20
  twenty five has got he's got some guys, uh that are gonna be difference
• 1:34:25
  makers in that class too. So yeah, he's he's been incredible. I
• 1:34:29
  did see something in the in the comments, nobody brought up Walter Rowse as
• 1:34:34
  a transfer portal MVP. That's another good option. So no, that dude
• 1:34:42
  was he was? He was fantastic, pro you too, So yeah,
• 1:34:45
  yeah, rals was Rowse was. I mean, going between Ralse and Tyler
• 1:34:50
  Geidon, I mean it's it's really you truly could go up in the air
• 1:34:54
  between the two. Heck, you could even throw guiding up there at O
• 1:34:58
  line as the offensive MVP or most improved because dudes now first round and I
• 1:35:02
  think Walter to Rouss is definitely gonna get drafted. He's probably a late day
• 1:35:05
  two day three guy. Yep. Just I mean, beating Bow deserves even
• 1:35:11
  some credit for what he's done with those guys, even as a coach,
• 1:35:14
  I mean, as you coach, I mean Beaten Bow you can even give
• 1:35:16
  him props with that, because I mean he may see, he may see
• 1:35:20
  four dudes get drafted, Like I would have not thought that going into the
• 1:35:25
  season. Now I knew Geiden was definitely after what he did with Jared Verse,
• 1:35:29
  I was like, Okay, he's definitely going to But I mean there's
• 1:35:31
  some rumbles of the Tower being a third round, a third day guy.
• 1:35:36
  There was rumbles of Rain being a third day guy, and a lot of
• 1:35:41
  y'all be hating them, dude. So it's just amazing to see how things
• 1:35:47
  had a season wrapped up. May not be the way we wanted, but
• 1:35:50
  man, there's so many bright spots in preparation for next season, like like
• 1:35:56
  what do you do? Like how do you complain about? You know,
• 1:36:00
  just what we with the foundation that's been laid. You're straight? Right?
• 1:36:05
  Walter Ross is another one. Yeah, especially the two handed block. Right.
• 1:36:10
  It's funny because I'm thinking about that because I was watching the end of
• 1:36:15
  that forty nine Ers game and Trent Williams did that exact thing too. I
• 1:36:19
  forgot who they played agains just now, but he on the right, he
• 1:36:21
  had two DRAMs just like this. Yeah, on the rams he had two
• 1:36:26
  d's just like this with with one hand and the other he's block and I'm
• 1:36:30
  just like I expect that at a Trent though, because I mean is different,
• 1:36:36
  he's different. Call him silver back. He called him silver back for
• 1:36:40
  a reason. I mean that man is different, he has built different,
• 1:36:44
  man purely different. And he would say that there literally standing on business.
• 1:36:49
  So but Ralphs deserves props. Yah, yeah, he agree. You said
• 1:36:56
  something about the foundation that's been laid, and this was, you know,
• 1:37:01
  I don't know, I won't I won't keep you long on this one.
• 1:37:04
  But the thought occurred, and this was on my way back from San Antonio,
• 1:37:12
  was you know, quiet wasn't listening to a whole lot of music and
• 1:37:15
  just like to, you know, think and process what I just watched.
• 1:37:18
  And the differing philosophies in what the previous regime head at Oklahoma versus what Brent
• 1:37:31
  Vinables has now could not have been more polar opposites than they are. And
• 1:37:38
  I'm not just talking about scheme. I mean, obviously you've got an offensive
• 1:37:43
  and a defensive coach. We're talking about accountability as far as practice and stuff
• 1:37:48
  goes. Lincoln Riley was almost so much of a player's coach that it was
• 1:37:53
  a detriment. You know, there's that's that's well documented. You have Brent
• 1:38:00
  Minnibles also a players coach, but ain't nobody gonna question him about being a
• 1:38:04
  practice on time like's there's there's not a question. It's different. So like
• 1:38:10
  the the philosophy is, yes, are one thing. But the culture,
• 1:38:14
  the winning culture, the Oklahoma culture, it's it's it's where it's back where
• 1:38:19
  it needs to be. You have people staying for the right reasons. You're
• 1:38:24
  building a roster of guys that are talented, but they want to be Oklahoma
• 1:38:28
  sooners. And I think that people don't realize just how difficult that is to
• 1:38:33
  instill in two years, Like you're changing everything about your program and he's done
• 1:38:39
  that. So just hats off to to BV as well, Like you know
• 1:38:45
  that that guy getting them back to ten and three. No, it wasn't
• 1:38:47
  what everybody wanted, but you know, if Folklahoma's eleven and two, nobody's
• 1:38:51
  having the questions that they're having about next year. So it was a big
• 1:38:57
  year for Oklahoma. You got to be happy with him at at ten and
• 1:39:00
  three after what happened in the in the wake of Lincoln Riley leaving. So
• 1:39:04
  right, and your point to you know, even continue its foundation piece,
• 1:39:10
  how we've had such turnover, right, I mean that's probably about ninety I'd
• 1:39:13
  say, if you want to give it a number, you know, you
• 1:39:15
  know, eighty percent of our statistics are made up, So I'm gonna make
• 1:39:17
  up a statistic, But I say we were in a ninety percent range right
• 1:39:21
  of turnover from players from his regime back. I mean, oh, I
• 1:39:26
  got number. I got the number for you right here. Oh, what's
• 1:39:28
  the exact number? There were thirteen players scholarship and preferred walk on that were
• 1:39:33
  available for this alimible versus the for the alimable whenever he took over. So
• 1:39:41
  there were thirteen players out of one hundred and twenty five that were on the
• 1:39:45
  roster. So's that's like ninety two percent. I was right there, Ye
• 1:39:47
  yeah, scholarship players. Scholarship players, it was only ten, and of
• 1:39:51
  those scholarship players, only eight were contributors. So, like, I mean,
• 1:39:55
  it's a new team, it's a totally new team. Within two year,
• 1:40:00
  guys, he has basically turned over just about every player that which this
• 1:40:04
  is why I pushed back on people that complain about nil and transfer portal in
• 1:40:11
  some capacities, because without the portal you're not gonna be able to be able
• 1:40:15
  to refresh your roster like this with guys that fit better in what you're trying
• 1:40:18
  to do. And like you, like you mentioned BC, the the culture
• 1:40:25
  change, the attitude change. You don't get that all the time. You
• 1:40:29
  don't get everybody to buy in that quickly. Really, that's the really your
• 1:40:31
  biggest problem is getting players to buy in when the new coach comes in,
• 1:40:36
  and Venables was able to go out there find the guys that match what we
• 1:40:41
  were trying to do and boom, we able to do it. So that's
• 1:40:45
  over ninety percent turnover on contributors on this roster. And that's like you said,
• 1:40:51
  scholarship and pew, that's crazy that he was able to change that many
• 1:40:57
  dudes. But also again, we take so many recruits for that particular reason,
• 1:41:03
  and that's why when it comes to the portal just adds more fuel to
• 1:41:08
  the video gonna drop tomorrow about that is we purposely pick specific players to not
• 1:41:15
  alienate the recruits we're bringing in. We know when we need veteran presence as
• 1:41:20
  the band aid for the position. But our goal ain't to replace all the
• 1:41:25
  dudes that we're bringing in his recruits, because that's your foundation, that's what
• 1:41:28
  your big boys do, that's what your Georgia's do, your Bama's. The
• 1:41:31
  players that they're shedding, they're shedding the weight of players that aren't going to
• 1:41:34
  contribute anymore, the guys that aren't going to be around, and every once
• 1:41:39
  in a while they're like, okay, injury issues and all of that,
• 1:41:43
  we probably need to go get another dude that could probably potentially start or get
• 1:41:47
  actually rotate. So they find that and if you don't get the recruits you
• 1:41:51
  fully want, you go find an additional portal dude to add to that.
• 1:41:55
  So yeah, it's that's how you build a team, if you want to
• 1:41:59
  build a sustainable winner, like we haven't. It hasn't been proven yet that
• 1:42:02
  you can win only out the portal. Lane Kiffin is pushing that. He's
• 1:42:05
  pushing that envelope. Boy, Lane is pushing it hard right now. A
• 1:42:11
  and M was buying all their recruits and couldn't find success, which is still
• 1:42:15
  wild to me. But that's a coaching problem, not really a player problem.
• 1:42:18
  But we've got to see Ole Miss is gonna teach us. Colorado's gonna
• 1:42:23
  teach us. Can you build a sustainable winner? Just through the portal?
• 1:42:27
  Washington looks like I mean, they've got a lot of contributors from the portal,
• 1:42:30
  but for the most most part, Kaitlyn de Boor had them dudes at
• 1:42:33
  least in there for a year before, for a full season before they're starting
• 1:42:38
  to see the success. Michigan their home built in the house. Yep,
• 1:42:42
  they're built in house with thirty recruits every class and then they just shed based
• 1:42:46
  upon what they need. So we'll find out what everything looks like long term.
• 1:42:51
  So as we wrap this bad boy up, BC, thank you for
• 1:42:55
  being here for as long as you have. Thank you so much. We
• 1:42:58
  appreciate it. Always a great listen, don't worry about talk long because you
• 1:43:00
  always provide some great content. Now that's championship. Who you got? Who
• 1:43:03
  you think gonna win this game? I've picked against Washington the entire way,
• 1:43:09
  So I quit now. I mean like I've doubted them the entire way.
• 1:43:14
  I didn't think they'd beat Oregon once. I didn't think they've been them twice.
• 1:43:17
  Obviously they did. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna
• 1:43:26
  go Michigan. I think Michigan's a better overall football team. I think that
• 1:43:30
  passing defense provides a different challenge for Michael Pennix. Now, it don't matter
• 1:43:38
  how good the passing defense is if Michael Pennocks plays away did against Texas because
• 1:43:42
  that man finding key holes in the door like a different he was different.
• 1:43:49
  Yeah, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go Michigan. I think it's I
• 1:43:51
  think it's lower scoring than than what what Washington wants. And that was my
• 1:43:57
  other on the Heisman top. They picked the Heisman two early. Man that
• 1:44:00
  picked early. It should happened after the bowl season. Michael Pennocks should be
• 1:44:03
  your mirrored Heisman Trophy winner. But I digress. That's fair, that's a
• 1:44:12
  fair assessment. I only disagree because Daniels, to me, Dayan Daniels had
• 1:44:17
  a Caleb Williams type season, Like literally the only reason why LSU was any
• 1:44:20
  good was because of him, Like you take him off team even when Pennick
• 1:44:24
  you can do the same thing. But I think that Daniels was a little
• 1:44:27
  bit more critical and he didn't he that on that one game when Penis was
• 1:44:31
  sick. Was that Arizona State and they just struggle. I found was like,
• 1:44:34
  that's probably the game that tipped it over from me for Daniels, because
• 1:44:38
  Daniels had it. I mean, he ranpo over a thousand yards, he
• 1:44:41
  threw for three. But I agree, probably should go with the Heisman right
• 1:44:45
  after the National championship, just in case you have a dude that decides to
• 1:44:47
  go into playoffs and cook everybody's meat like he just cooked him up because he's
• 1:44:53
  God, he's good. And so I picked though Michigan. I said this
• 1:44:59
  right when all the scandals started. Michigan's going to National championship anything, and
• 1:45:03
  then they gonna vacate all they wins. So this whole season was a waste.
• 1:45:08
  This is exactly what's gonna happen. All of it is lining up perfectly
• 1:45:11
  for us. Be like man An Harball is gonna be an NFL coach thirty.
• 1:45:16
  We're looking back like any might even here, can't even basket in no
• 1:45:20
  more. Michigan's under investigation. So they're gonna go ahead and pay Sharon More
• 1:45:25
  and say, look, we'll give you five years to hang out and just
• 1:45:30
  continue to win games. We're not gonna be able to go to Bowl games.
• 1:45:32
  But you know, Sharon, you do this, They're gonna find a
• 1:45:34
  way to keep him around. Harball's gonna take all the blame. He's gonna
• 1:45:38
  go coach the Chargers or the Raiders or the Falcons, whichever one Lincoln Riley
• 1:45:43
  doesn't take. So at that point, it's gonna be like, man,
• 1:45:45
  this is just dumb. Michigan is who I think is gonna win it.
• 1:45:48
  And it's nothing against Washington. Like you, I initially started picking against Washington
• 1:45:54
  in some especially Oregon against Oregon. I figured Oregon would figure it Outppenix is
• 1:45:59
  just that good. He just kept showing down and he was like, oh,
• 1:46:01
  okay, never mind. I guess I was wrong here. Well,
• 1:46:05
  I think against Texas, I picked Washington, and I told my Texas guys
• 1:46:10
  that when I picked him, I was like, look, I bet it
• 1:46:13
  gets Washington all season and everything that tells the way that they play, y'all.
• 1:46:17
  Second, they ain't ready for them. They got three number one wide
• 1:46:20
  receivers on that team, three number ones, three of them, Like,
• 1:46:24
  how do you have three? But they look like the Dolphins right now.
• 1:46:28
  Right we talk about the Dolphins speed and their wide receivers and how they're playing
• 1:46:30
  like man, the's wide receivers that's literally who they look like. They got
• 1:46:33
  three dudes that could be the number one wide receiver on just about any team
• 1:46:38
  in the country. Like one of them probably could take our number one spot
• 1:46:41
  here. They're that good. And Pennix is out there with the experience of
• 1:46:46
  forty years in college football. He's he don't even care who's rushing after him.
• 1:46:51
  He feels comfortable at all times. That was I was just like,
• 1:46:57
  yeah, he needs to be. He's a top three draft pick the NFL,
• 1:47:00
  Like, you got to give it to him because he understands pressure.
• 1:47:02
  That to me sold me on Penis. Those last three games or whatnot.
• 1:47:08
  The Oregon, the the the game before Oregon I forgot, oh, Washington
• 1:47:12
  State, Washington State game, Apple Cup, and then going against Oregon a
• 1:47:15
  second time, even the first organ game, I was just like, yeah,
• 1:47:17
  Penix is legit. And then now Texas, I'm just like, yeah,
• 1:47:21
  yeah, I was an idiot. I should have never bet against y'all
• 1:47:25
  this season. I'm so glad they beat Texas twice though, two years in
• 1:47:28
  a row. Just Jeff's kiss or whatnot. So all right, we're gonna
• 1:47:34
  go ahead and wrap it up, put a bow on, and let everybody
• 1:47:36
  get home. Brian, thank you again. Let the people know where to
• 1:47:41
  find you and all your great content that you be putting out there. I'm
• 1:47:44
  over at Hartland College Sports. You can find us just Heartland College Sports dot
• 1:47:48
  com. We're on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, all that good stuff.
• 1:47:51
  And then obviously ou Insider dot Com over there contributing and gonna have lots lots
• 1:47:59
  of good stuff for you guys over there. Got some off season stuff with
• 1:48:02
  incoming freshman and transfer portal guys in the coming weeks and months, so be
• 1:48:09
  checking that stuff out. Appreciate you having me on, Jay, It's been
• 1:48:13
  good. So as usual, man, I'm gonna try to bring you on
• 1:48:15
  as often as possible when I'm not taking away from your family. But also
• 1:48:19
  on top of that, check out when BC drops his videos like looking at
• 1:48:24
  the players actually running through plays. No, it's gold, it's best out
• 1:48:28
  there in the business. I appreciate that. That helps me would even determine
• 1:48:30
  and if I think a dude's actually as good as I would say, or
• 1:48:35
  where they need to line up, that helps. And so I know I've
• 1:48:40
  heard that Ali is in town, but no one's officially said if he's when
• 1:48:45
  the official announcement, I anticipate Monday. We'll wait and see. But I
• 1:48:49
  did see somebody on social media point out that Chaves had a U Haul at
• 1:48:54
  his house and so people were a little worried about him leaving or whatnot.
• 1:48:57
  And somebody else was like, no, I think that's probably Ali moving in
• 1:49:00
  to stay with him while he figures out where he's gonna live. It's like,
• 1:49:04
  Okay, that calms down a lot of the waters out there, but
• 1:49:09
  no, the alley breakdown when he breaks it down right after the hire.
• 1:49:13
  Go check it out. You'll see how the defenses run. You'll and it
• 1:49:16
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• 1:49:20
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• 1:49:41
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