Latest / Financial Survival Network / Unlocking Government Contracting Gold: Insider Tips and Strategies for Success -- Jason White #5989
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- 0:00As much as the economy is doing whatever is doing, the federal government always
- 0:05have money allocated towards these contracts for years that's already been done, so they
- 0:11still need to spend that money, which means they're still always going to be
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- 0:48I'm your Oscarry Lutz will hate it. Tough time to make it in business,
- 0:54for sure, but the person you're about to hear from can open up
- 0:59perhaps some new horizons for you, some new things you never thought of,
- 1:03and a way to keep making it. You know. Will Rogers once said
- 1:07to invest in inflation, it's the only thing going up. Well that's certainly
- 1:11true today, but also going up is government spending. So that might be
- 1:17your ticket to really keeping your business above water, even prospers prospering in these
- 1:23tough times, Jason, it's great to have you on the show. So
- 1:27government contracting panacea? Is it your key to success? It is, it
- 1:33is, Carrit Thanks for having me on the show. I think it's been
- 1:36my key to success, along with some other things, but definitely federal government
- 1:41contracting because you know those three different levels. So I speak from the federal
- 1:46level all all right, but all levels of government, of course, are
- 1:49spending money. So what works at the feds federal level can work at the
- 1:53state and local level too. Right. Again, I just don't know anything
- 1:57about this local because know that the little procedures that they have in the state
- 2:02a little different. But you're absolutely right, government spending money regardless of the
- 2:07level. Yeah. It reminds me of the movie I once saw I can't
- 2:12remember the name of it now, where these two guys war dogs or yeah,
- 2:17yeah, war Dogs. Yeah. Like, So they start contracting all
- 2:22these small contracts for the military. At one point they're going across a war
- 2:28zone in Lebanon to get the get the weapons to delivered to their client.
- 2:35But I assume you're not risking your life to go do this. There's an
- 2:39easier path, correct, correct, Let me let me, let me backtrack
- 2:43War Dogs. Wouldn't it have never been a movie? If they would have
- 2:46never sourced ammunition from China, they would have just stayed away from that.
- 2:52They would have never had a movie because they was doing everything else by the
- 2:54book. But yeah, I'm not. I'm definitely not risking my life.
- 2:58It's another way to do it. Wait, the way I do government contracting
- 3:02is pretty simple. There's an ask or request from the federal government. Then
- 3:09there's a company out there that can provide or fulfill that request. I'm just
- 3:15marrying the two together and putting those two into a position to help each other
- 3:23at the same time. So you don't even have to take any risk of
- 3:25fulfillment or whatever. Right, Yeah, So technically I am the risk taker
- 3:31because the federal government is dealing with me. They're really not dealing with the
- 3:36partner. My paperwork, my name is everything on the paperwork, but the
- 3:39company is fulfilling the product or the service in lieu of my name. How
- 3:46hard is it to find these opportunities? So it's fairly easy. SAM do
- 3:50i gov SAM dot gov and there are ninety six thousand federal government contract opportunities
- 3:57every single day, so it's not all at all relatively easy. Hey,
- 4:01so you think I can do this? Absolutely? Listen, you got a
- 4:05zoom call and you got on the computer, and I'm pretty I'm pretty sure
- 4:11you're talking the fall throughout the day as well. That's all you need,
- 4:14all right? So what are the best opportunities out there for somebody like me
- 4:18who knows absolutely nothing? So here's the thing, right, I tell people
- 4:24all the time, I don't know how to fix cars. But one thing
- 4:27I can do is drive my car to the auto mechanic so they can fix
- 4:30it for me. Right, So all we have to know is what the
- 4:33expectations are, and we can get the expectations from the federal government. The
- 4:39federal government says, hey, I need ten thousand pencils. Cool, no
- 4:43problem, I can go find a manufacturer company that's willing to partner with me
- 4:48to source these ten thousand pencils. So as long as we know what the
- 4:51expectations are and we can go find the correct partner to fulfill whatever the product
- 4:58of the service is. So you don't really care how much what the contract
- 5:02is, just that you can fulfill it, find somebody to do it.
- 5:06There you go, I don't care what it is because I'm not doing the
- 5:11physical part of that contract. I'm doing the brain operations of that contract.
- 5:15So whatever it is, there's somebody that can help me source or do that
- 5:21service. So what's the weirdest thing you ever sourced for the government? The
- 5:27weirdest thing is probably well, I mean, let me take you back.
- 5:31I knew it was a pandemic before it was a band didn't. So in
- 5:35twenty seventeen, the federal government asked me for eighty two million gloves. Now
- 5:43do it look like I'm a guy that has eighty two million gloves just just
- 5:46sitting around my with them? Where would you find them? Right? Exactly?
- 5:51So I gave them a price point. This is twenty seventeen. They
- 5:56got my price point. It didn't come back to me to the end of
- 5:59twenty eighteen. Round the middle towards the end of twenty eighteen, they said,
- 6:02hey, is that price still the same? We still do you still
- 6:05have those amount of gloves? I said, the price, they're not the
- 6:09same, but I think I still I can find those gloves. Anyway,
- 6:12did the contract with them for those gloves? Twenty nineteen? What happened?
- 6:16Ye? The started the pandemic was crazy imagine if you were selling masks,
- 6:21what they could have done. Oh my goodness, gracious, had I had
- 6:26I known, I would have got them some masks too. But they asked
- 6:29me for the gloves and that before the pandemic. That was pretty weird.
- 6:31That was pretty great. At other ppe, what has been the most profitable
- 6:35thing you ever sold to the government? Uh, the most profitable service.
- 6:40So I do products and service. The most profitable service is armed and unarmed
- 6:45security. So that's been Those contracts are typically around four and five years each
- 6:51contract, and then they typically like the service, so they continue to roll
- 6:57that contract. Oh so so is this for what type of security? Like
- 7:03for age? Yeah? So unarmed is like your brinks I'm sorry. Armed
- 7:09is like your brinks and you're you know, delivering the money bags from this
- 7:13location of that location. Then unarmed it is where they're just garding some paccess.
- 7:19It might be like a statue or a museum. So they want to
- 7:24source armed, unarmed security guards for that service. All right, So you
- 7:29know, you hear all sorts of stories about how the government pays slowly,
- 7:32if at all they ever had any problem getting paid by them, No I
- 7:36care. So that's why I was trying to give you the distinction between the
- 7:40state, federal, and local. The federal level doesn't have those issues,
- 7:45at least since I've been doing this since two thousand and eight, I haven't
- 7:48had issues of the federal government paying slow or not at all. Anytime I've
- 7:53ever had an invoicing issue, it was user air, I put the wrong
- 7:57PEO number, or I did it didn't put the right dollar amount, so,
- 8:00but it wasn't on the federal government me. And how fast did they
- 8:03pay you? So everybody is on your contract typically is on a net thirty
- 8:07right, so the product of service is delivered first, and then the federal
- 8:11government after invoicing, has up to thirty days to pay you out. Now,
- 8:16you can during the proposal process ask for a NET team to be paid
- 8:20in ten days or a NET zero to be paid on delivery, but net
- 8:26typically is a net thirty. Yeah, they're going to take. It's the
- 8:28government after all, right, they're gonna take the old. Now, they
- 8:31will take the old thirty days now they will do that. Yeah, they'll
- 8:35pay you on the twenty ninth and hurry, Okay, you're right, So
- 8:39it goes in your bank and they wire you the money, right. Yeah,
- 8:41it's directly positive right into your account that you put on your registration when
- 8:46you first become a full vendor for the federal government. You ever had any
- 8:50disputes with them as far as they weren't happy or whatever. Ah, listen
- 8:56yes, because remember it's not me actually doing the work is enough the company,
- 9:00So I'm relying on the other company to be who they say they.
- 9:03Y'all have the excellent customer service and the personnel. So sometimes there are those
- 9:11issues that that person just wasn't truthful with me, or that company wasn't truthful,
- 9:15and now I gotta communification. But one of my strongest assets is communication.
- 9:20So once I can feel that this company isn't who they say they are,
- 9:24but they already wor working on my federal federal government contract, one thing
- 9:28I have to immediately do is communicate that with the federal government. Most people
- 9:33think if you mess up with them, you're going to get black balled and
- 9:35navigate a contract. Again, that's not that's not even remotely closed. The
- 9:39federal government wants to work with small business. That's their that that's their thing.
- 9:43They like to praise for the mountain time we give small businesses all this
- 9:46money, so they're not looking to you know, asks you out as a
- 9:50partner, but they are looking for utmost communication and honesty, and if you're
- 9:54able to do that, a lot of issues can just be dealt with or
- 9:58swept on in the road. And they're not worried about you subcontract contracting out
- 10:05these contracts. No, it's actually it's actually a rule that allows you to
- 10:11sub out the contract. Now, when you see certain contracts, they'll tell
- 10:15you, hey, we don't want this to be subbed out. We want
- 10:18the person to actually do the work. So those are our hands off.
- 10:22But at least about ninety percent of all the federal government contracts, they allow
- 10:26those to be sub subcontracted out because they know a lot of these contracts you
- 10:31need help anyway, You're going to need to partner up if you can't fulfill
- 10:35or have the personnel. How does it work with preferences for minority and women
- 10:41own businesses. Does that give you a leg up? A lot of people
- 10:45think it does, but it doesn't. So yeah, yeah, do you
- 10:48go to Vegas off the current? Not anymore? You know, like I's
- 10:54tired of making gifts to the casinos, so you know, when you're walking
- 10:58around on the basic casino bowl and then you can see the high roller table
- 11:05and right, but when you go to the high roller table, they're still
- 11:09in there, but it's just a smaller amount of people that can gamble at
- 11:13that level. That's all the certifications do the minority, the woman down,
- 11:16the veteran on, the service disabled veteran on. You still have to big
- 11:22but you're only bidding now against a smaller pool versus the larger pool. But
- 11:26it's no crefit right, all right, So it might give you a little
- 11:31advantage because less people are bidding, but that's going to get it's not going
- 11:35to win you the contract. No, And a lot of people think,
- 11:39just because they have that shiny new sticker that says, hey look at me,
- 11:41I'm a service is able veteran, that they're going to automatically win a
- 11:46contract, not knowing they still got to understand and learn the bidding process.
- 11:50It's just not giving to you. And that was my next question for you
- 11:54is, so bidding, how do you come up with prices enough so that
- 11:58your subcontractors gonna make make money and you're going to make money. Yeah,
- 12:01good question. So one of my like I told you one of my keys
- 12:05to success is communications. So I'm gonna let the subcontractor know, hey,
- 12:11I am actually going to put some money on top of your quote. So
- 12:15I need your quote to be at the lowest price where you're still making money,
- 12:18so I can still put a little bit of change on there for myself
- 12:22because I am in the middle of this deal. Sure, So do you
- 12:26go to multiple subcontractors and bid out on contract? Garrett? Before I became
- 12:31in a relationship, I dated multiple women. I gotta see, I gotta
- 12:37see what's the best. How do they feel about that? They want to
- 12:39think they're the only one in the world that's rite for you, Jason.
- 12:43But I told you one of the things is by communication. Hey I'm dead,
- 12:48I'm dating. So one of the things I do with the subcontractors is
- 12:52no different. I just say, hey, listen, I need a quote.
- 12:54I'm not guaranteeing you that you're going to get this job with me,
- 12:58but I just needed to know how much are you charging me? And I
- 13:01go do that well, new two or three other people so I can price
- 13:03compit. So is it easier to make money in this business now or harder?
- 13:09Yeah? So it's easy. Remember, as much as the economy is
- 13:13doing whatever is doing, the federal government always have money allocated towards these contracts
- 13:20for years that's already been done, So they still need to spend that money,
- 13:24which means they're still always going to be work for me to partner with
- 13:30somebody because those contracts are always rolling. That reminds me of that scene I
- 13:35think it was in a Full Metal Jacket where they're in marine training and he
- 13:39goes the sergeant says, men will live and die, but the Marine Corps
- 13:45is forever, and so is the government too, right, Absolutely, yes,
- 13:48sir, yes, and all right. So somebody wants to get into
- 13:52this. If you want to get into it, what kind of resources do
- 13:56you need besides a zoom connection and a toll or foudah. So you have
- 14:01to have an LLC. Right, So, the federal government doesn't do people
- 14:05to business, they do be to b business to business. So as long
- 14:09as you have an LLC S corporal, a formulated company, you can take
- 14:15that company and register that into SAM dot gov and then you you're ready to
- 14:20go. It's not See, that's why I like to deal on a federal
- 14:22level. On a federal level, You don't need two years of experience,
- 14:26or need to be in business for two years, or have experience and all
- 14:31this other stuff that the other levels want you to have. At the federal
- 14:35level, just register a brand new LLC. If you have a sketchy pass,
- 14:41congratulations because they're making sure that you have an LLC, not your personal
- 14:46background. And after you get registered, you're ready to rock and roll.
- 14:50Okay, Core, Hey, so you coach people on how to do this.
- 14:54I do. I do. So. I've been coaching now since twenty
- 14:58twenty and we have over sixty five hundred students, and out of those sixty
- 15:03five hundred students, they've been successful at being over the federal government contracts to
- 15:07the Tuna fifty five point three million dollars Matjie. Yeah, I'm very proud
- 15:13of our students in our community and I'll just continue to build it all right.
- 15:18Hey, geographically doesn't matter where you are. There's some parts of the
- 15:22country that's better to do this than others. Or you could be in Alaska
- 15:26or Hawaii or what you could be anywhere. Because that's why I like to
- 15:30deal on a federal level. There's a federal facility in all fifty states.
- 15:33So even if you're in Florida and I'm in Texas, but we both see
- 15:37an opportunity for a contract in Montana, South Dakota, North Dakota. There's
- 15:43somebody out there that can do the work, and we just partner up with
- 15:46them to do it where they are not what we up. So you mentioned
- 15:48security, unarmed and armed. Give me three other areas you think there's real
- 15:54opportunity real estate, janitorial, landscaping and it services uhha, interesting to real
- 16:03estate's real estate management or how does that work? Yeah, So the federal
- 16:08government looks to lease buildings all the time, so their at least is either
- 16:14running out or they want to find a better opportunity to lease, so they
- 16:18will put out on the tender or the solicitation and say, hey, look
- 16:22we're looking for this size building, this location. So that's a major thing
- 16:26for all those relators out there that's kind of struggling with the you know,
- 16:32residential side. The commercial government side is a space that they need to be
- 16:37in paying attention to. Even though all those buildings in DC are half empty
- 16:41because everybody's still working from home right now. You never room back. But
- 16:45you know, guess what's running in those buildings those see security IT stuff and
- 16:51have those laptops that they've worked from home that's still running from some type of
- 16:55software in those buildings. Amazing. All right, Hey, how do we
- 17:00how do you connect with people? How do we find out about you and
- 17:06on the internet, et cetera. Oh man, that's too easy. So
- 17:10if anybody goes to Instagram, you can go there at I am Jason White
- 17:17Underschool, so that I am Jason White Underschool. Then my website is the
- 17:22Federal Coldcode dot com, the Federalcold dot com, and there you'll be able
- 17:30to connect see what programs that we offer and just dive into this world federal
- 17:36government contractor. All right, man, Hey, well the link is in
- 17:38the show notes this interview on Financial Survival Network dot com. You can also
- 17:45text Jason's phone to find out more about it. That'll be in there as
- 17:51well. And Hey, if you got a question over Jason, Jason or
- 17:55myself, shoot me an email kl at Carrie Lutz dot com. And when
- 18:00you go to the site, you could just click right through to Jason's site,
- 18:03the Federalcode dot com. And while you're there, please sign up for
- 18:07our free newsletter. Jason amazing. Keep up the great work and I love
- 18:11hearing your story. Appreciated. Thank you jvav, thanks for listening to carry
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