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Wired To Hunt Podcast #238: Rut Radio 10/3/18 · Wired To Hunt Podcast

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for
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Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host,
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Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast. I'm
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Speaker 1: your host, Mark Kenyan in this episode number two and
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Speaker 1: thirty eight, and we are back with our weekly radio
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Speaker 1: mini series in which we're hearing from hunters from all
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Speaker 1: across the country about the current deer activity, behavior, rep
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Speaker 1: progress sign and the tactics that are actually helping people.
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Speaker 1: Right now, real quick, before we get this one started, though,
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Speaker 1: a couple announcements I want to share with you. Number One,
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Speaker 1: as most of you probably know from hearing past podcasts,
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Speaker 1: I and Wired Hunt have become involved with Steve ronnello
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Speaker 1: new company, Meat Eater, Inc. A lot of exciting things
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Speaker 1: going on there. If you heard our podcast, I think
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Speaker 1: it was to fifteen, Steve was on, I explained exactly
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Speaker 1: what's happening. I also posted a video on YouTube explaining
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Speaker 1: in more detail why I decided to do this, what
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Speaker 1: that means, where and how my content is going to
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Speaker 1: live into the future. Make sure check out the wire
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Speaker 1: hunt YouTube channel to see that. But tied into that
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Speaker 1: is the fact that the new season of the Meat
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Speaker 1: Eater TV show just premiered on October two on Netflix
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Speaker 1: as a Netflix original, which is a which is a
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Speaker 1: really big deal. This is the first hunting show ever
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Speaker 1: to be a Netflix original, So I'm excited about that.
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Speaker 1: The whole team is excited about that. And if you
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Speaker 1: heard last fall about my caribou hunt that I went
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Speaker 1: on with Steve, that hunt is now on Netflix. It's
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Speaker 1: two episodes. I just watched them last night, and Wow,
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Speaker 1: Steve and the production team did an incredible job of
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Speaker 1: of telling that story in what I think was just
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Speaker 1: a really beautiful, moving, powerful way. I mean it was,
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Speaker 1: it was super cool. Maybe I'm biased because I actually
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Speaker 1: was on the trip, but man, I was excited to
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Speaker 1: see that. I think you guys will enjoy it too,
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Speaker 1: especially if you heard me, you know, share the story
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Speaker 1: of that experience in the podcast. Actually getting to see
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Speaker 1: that now with your eyes, I think that might be
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Speaker 1: pretty neat for you, So be sure to check it out.
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Speaker 1: It's on Netflix now, the whole new season, sixteen new episodes,
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Speaker 1: and uh, like I said, I've only seen two episodes
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Speaker 1: so far, but they're great. I'm sure the rest are
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Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of fun too, So go on
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Speaker 1: over Netflix. Give those a watch. We would certainly appreciate that. Now.
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Speaker 1: we'll do it for these couple of announcements. Onto the show.
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Speaker 1: All right, welcome to the Wire to Hunt podcast, brought
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Speaker 1: to you by Onyx, and we're here again for another
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Speaker 1: episode of the RUT Radio mini series that my good
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Speaker 1: buddy and producer Spencer new Heart is running the show on. Spencer,
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Speaker 1: thank you for carrying more of the burden even than
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Speaker 1: usual over the last couple of weeks, as I've been
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Speaker 1: glomping all over the nation in the back of my truck,
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Speaker 1: I finally have a microphone. Yeah, that's all right. Very
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Speaker 1: jealous of the troops you were on. But now it's
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Speaker 1: gonna be flipped around. I'm gonna be hunting all the
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Speaker 1: time and you're gonna be the guy sitting at a computer. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: it's time for you to cash in your wife vacation days. Right,
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Speaker 1: that's right, that's right. They have been accumulating. That's good.
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Speaker 1: That's good man. I uh, I'm excited because you know,
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Speaker 1: my white tail season started at the beginning September in
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Speaker 1: Montana and North Dakota, but it doesn't really feel like
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Speaker 1: it's officially started until the at home season is kicked off,
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Speaker 1: and that that happened yesterday. It's it's now really hunting
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Speaker 1: season because Michigan hunters are out there. So my my
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Speaker 1: excitement levels at at all time high now, and the
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Speaker 1: RUT radio episodes then for me even get more interesting
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Speaker 1: because I need that up to date intel too, So
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Speaker 1: I'm excited for this one. Yeah, Michigan as well as
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Speaker 1: much of the Midwest and much of the South just
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Speaker 1: opened either yesterday or this weekend. So, uh, a lot
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Speaker 1: of this stuff is becoming more relevant to the rest
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Speaker 1: of the nation. Yeah. So, as we do on every
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Speaker 1: RUT Radio episode, you've been collecting updates from folks all
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Speaker 1: across the country. Three, Who are we going to hear
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Speaker 1: from today? And where are these folks at? We start
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Speaker 1: off in Nebraska with Bryce Lamley from Sitky Gear, and
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Speaker 1: then in Pennsylvania from Flat Lion, White Tails is Tyler Kravitz.
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Speaker 1: And then we talked to Gray Drummond from Florida Outdoor
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Speaker 1: Experience in Florida, and then in Kentucky from Dream Chaser's
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Speaker 1: Hunt is Colton Clemens. Awesome. Now, from people you've spoke
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Speaker 1: to so far, is there anything you're picking up as
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Speaker 1: far as a trend or anything that you've just been
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Speaker 1: hearing with your other conversations. Yes, So this kind of
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Speaker 1: goes back to last week and brings in this week
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Speaker 1: as well as some reports that have had on RUT Fresh.
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Speaker 1: But it sounds like across the country that signmaking is
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Speaker 1: kind of a head of schedule. As you and I
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Speaker 1: record this mark it's October two, and this would typically
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Speaker 1: be the time I think for most guys that you
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Speaker 1: would just start to see some scrapes or rubs show up. UM,
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Speaker 1: maybe not even yet where things would get really hot
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Speaker 1: a few weeks from now. But like I said, UM,
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Speaker 1: from the reports I've been hearing, there's been a lot
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Speaker 1: more signmaking that has shown up in the woods a
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Speaker 1: result of that. UM, I'm not totally sure. Some of
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Speaker 1: the people I talked to UH got hammered with E
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Speaker 1: h D like five or six years ago, and so
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Speaker 1: maybe the age classes now to a to a point
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Speaker 1: where there's a lot more bucks around, mature bucks that
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Speaker 1: are doing some rubmaking or excuse me, some scrapes, whereas
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Speaker 1: that something that you maybe would have noticed over this
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Speaker 1: last half decade or so. Another reason could be that
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Speaker 1: a lot of the country, UM has had precipitation over
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Speaker 1: this last month or so. And I'm not sure that
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Speaker 1: it's ever been proven or verified by any biologists or
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Speaker 1: anything like that, but a lot of hunters I tend
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Speaker 1: to think that there's a correlation between the ground being
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Speaker 1: soft and scrapes showing up, and so with a lot
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Speaker 1: of the country having precipitation in September, that could be
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Speaker 1: another cause as well as UH, the increase in signmaking
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Speaker 1: for this early in the season m very interesting. I
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Speaker 1: don't know if I've heard that theory before. I had
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Speaker 1: heard that, you know, oftentimes a buck will want to
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Speaker 1: go freshen up a scrape after a rain, but I
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Speaker 1: hadn't heard that maybe that increased precipitation just leads to
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Speaker 1: more scrape production in general. So, UM, I'm intrigued. Spencer Newharth,
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Speaker 1: I am intrigued. Um. I can't say that I've seen
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Speaker 1: that yet this year myself, or the last week I did,
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Speaker 1: Like I mentioned, you know, Michigan season kicked off, and
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Speaker 1: I did see a few light rubs when I was
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Speaker 1: heading out to my stand last night, so it was
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Speaker 1: a little bit of that. Um, I haven't seen any
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Speaker 1: scrapes made, but I do have a cell phone camera
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Speaker 1: pointing on a like a scrape tree that I put
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Speaker 1: out in the middle of a food plot, and I've
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Speaker 1: had a good number of deer hitting that, not necessarily
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Speaker 1: scraping it up yet but smelling the liking branch. Um.
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Speaker 1: So I think there'll be plenty more to come here soon.
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Speaker 1: But that's interesting to hear that folks are seeing that too.
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Speaker 1: So is that something that you've manipulated and added some
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Speaker 1: sense or anything, or you just have the camera waiting
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Speaker 1: on that tree for a deer to open it up themselves.
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Speaker 1: So we usually what I do when I did in
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Speaker 1: this case was I went out there, I placed the
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Speaker 1: tree where I wanted in a licking branch at the
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Speaker 1: right height where I wanted it, and then I kicked
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Speaker 1: up some dirt underneath it. Um. And in the past,
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Speaker 1: I've put scent on the ground, or I started up
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Speaker 1: sitting the ground, I put scent on the licking branch.
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Speaker 1: This year, I didn't do that, but I do always
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Speaker 1: pee in the scrape, leave a little bit of a
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Speaker 1: human urine, which eventually just smells like ammonia, which dear
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Speaker 1: just kind of pick up is urine. Um. So lots
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Speaker 1: of times i've I've read and I've used it myself.
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Speaker 1: It works just fine. Just use your own non or
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Speaker 1: totally natural scent. So that's what I did in this case. Um,
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Speaker 1: that's the scent I've used. But I did last night
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Speaker 1: when I left my tree stand. Um, I was picked
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Speaker 1: up on a TV and I brought a little rake
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Speaker 1: out and I didn't rake up the scrape and just
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Speaker 1: had it kind of opened up a little bit more
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Speaker 1: so it looks like it's been freshened up recently by
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Speaker 1: an aggressive deer, and I'm hoping that's going to trigger
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Speaker 1: even more activity at that location. Well, I have a
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Speaker 1: blog post that was posted on August twenty nine and
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Speaker 1: refresh I think you should go check out, as well
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Speaker 1: as some others, and it talked about why you should
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Speaker 1: start using mock scrapes earlier in the season. And I
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Speaker 1: referenced this study that this guy did from Deer and
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Speaker 1: Deer Hunting magazine back in late eighties and early nineties,
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Speaker 1: and basically he had this um penned deer population and
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Speaker 1: over four years, he would have control years where he
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Speaker 1: made no scrapes, and then he would have the scrape
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Speaker 1: years where he created the scrapes um and during those
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Speaker 1: scrape years, he would uh witness like dozens and dozens
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Speaker 1: of scrapes that were worked and visited by bucks. By
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Speaker 1: September twenty six, I think the one year it was
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Speaker 1: like thirty something that scrapes had shown up in the
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Speaker 1: woods when he started those scrapes in early September. Uh.
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Speaker 1: And then the years where he did not create any scrapes,
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Speaker 1: he would only witness like one or two at the
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Speaker 1: end of September. So by starting those scrapes early, it
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Speaker 1: seems like you can actually kind of disrupt the social
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Speaker 1: behavior in the woods with those bucks, and they'll start
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Speaker 1: visiting those scrapes as well. Now that might not necessarily
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Speaker 1: help you kill a deer or even get them moving
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Speaker 1: in daylight better, but if you're someone who likes scrapes
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Speaker 1: for the purpose of inventory or learning where these deer traveling, Uh,
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Speaker 1: that's something that can be really crucial that you can
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Speaker 1: use in September that maybe other hunters aren't doing. Oh man,
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Speaker 1: I a percent agree that is my number one most
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Speaker 1: important trail camera tactic Now. I I even put my
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Speaker 1: cameras mostly on scrapes or historical pass scrapes or new
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Speaker 1: mox scrapes that I create. I start that even in
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Speaker 1: late August, Like if I'm in a spot where I
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Speaker 1: can't put out mineral or bait or anything like that
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Speaker 1: to get trail camera pictures in the summer, I was
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Speaker 1: just put looking put these cameras on licking branches, and
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Speaker 1: I still get bucks coming and checking those. And then
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Speaker 1: definitely one September hits almost all my cameras are on
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Speaker 1: either a real scrape or mock scrape tree in a field,
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Speaker 1: UM or pulling down a licking branch in the woods.
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Speaker 1: There's no better way to get consistent pictures that I've found, um,
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Speaker 1: assuming you don't want to put corner bait or something
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Speaker 1: out there that of course gets a lot dear to
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Speaker 1: one location, but otherwise licking branches and scrapes of the
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Speaker 1: way to go. So I'm on board for sure. Well,
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Speaker 1: I think we'll have plenty of more sign mace signmaking
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Speaker 1: talk over this next month of radio. But for now,
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Speaker 1: let's get to the October third episode. Let's do it.
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Speaker 1: in joining us on the line. First is Bryce Lamley,
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Speaker 1: an outdoor writer out of Nebraska. Now, Bryce in Nebraska,
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Speaker 1: what would you say the buck activity has been lately
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Speaker 1: on a scale of one to tent Well, I'm usually
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Speaker 1: really conservative for you, but I'm actually going to say
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Speaker 1: a nine right now. In thirty eight years of serious
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Speaker 1: bow hunting, this is the most early season scraping I've
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Speaker 1: ever seen. And I think it might be a combination
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Speaker 1: of being wetter than normal and and we've got a
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Speaker 1: little bit of a strange age class on some of
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Speaker 1: the properties I hunt. But it's uh, it's been this
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Speaker 1: multiple big scrapes opened up, and lots of them. Now
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Speaker 1: I don't hunt that far away from you in South Dakota,
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Speaker 1: you're in Nebraska. Typically I'm hard to seeing any scrapes
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Speaker 1: at all this time of year. Are you seeing a
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Speaker 1: lot of scrapes or just a small number pop up
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Speaker 1: which is more than normal even Well, I'll give you
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Speaker 1: an example. Last year October nine, I killed a nice
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Speaker 1: buck and over a scrape. But I walked in with
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Speaker 1: some cent on my boots and I opened that scrape
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Speaker 1: up that night it had not been hit. So that
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Speaker 1: was October ninth last year. This year, starting around September
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Speaker 1: twentieth or so, these scrapes are beginning opened up and
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Speaker 1: beat up, and multiple visits, mostly at night. But it's
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Speaker 1: it's honestly, the scrape scenes on some of the properties
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Speaker 1: of the two main properties that I hunt. It's just
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Speaker 1: it's crazy. I've never seen anything like it. We'll speaking
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Speaker 1: of killing an ice buck. You just did that. I
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Speaker 1: believe it was last night. It was a great dear
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Speaker 1: you got and tell us a little bit about that hunt. Well.
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Speaker 1: I was in kind of a pin north of a
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Speaker 1: small creek and just south of a dyke levy bordering
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Speaker 1: a bean field, and and it was kind of one
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Speaker 1: of those almost perfectly wrong winds where it was gonna
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Speaker 1: be difficult for dear to get down wind of me
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Speaker 1: if they wanted to visit these scrapes, and kind of
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Speaker 1: a staging area before they hit the beans. They've not
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Speaker 1: been as much in the beans lately since the beans
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Speaker 1: are starting to turn brown, but I still thought I
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Speaker 1: might have a chance in this book. Was actually he
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Speaker 1: actually got out into the beans um pair or off
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Speaker 1: the side of me. I didn't see him get into
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Speaker 1: the beans, but then he was walking down the androws
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Speaker 1: about thirty yards away, which is a little far from
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Speaker 1: my longboat, and just for grins, I thought, I've got
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Speaker 1: nothing else better to do, and it was a little
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Speaker 1: bit windy, so I hit him with a snort snort
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Speaker 1: wheels with my mouth, and he immediately started scraping out
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Speaker 1: in the bean field, and he looked back hard twice,
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Speaker 1: and I hit him again when we started walking, and
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Speaker 1: he trotted away out of my vision down the androws,
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Speaker 1: and I thought the last the end of that now.
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Speaker 1: He ended up coming back up over the dike into
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Speaker 1: the little strip of woods I was in and tried
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Speaker 1: to circle down window me and next time I saw
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Speaker 1: him he was ten yards away, and that was down
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Speaker 1: in us great Ordinarily, would you be trying to call
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Speaker 1: a buck in this early or is it all that
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Speaker 1: sign that you've seen in the woods that inspired you
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Speaker 1: to snore weeze in that dear No. In fact, I
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Speaker 1: don't even have my rattle bag or carrying my rattling
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Speaker 1: homes or anything like that right now, because it's like
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Speaker 1: you said, it's usually too early for me to even
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Speaker 1: be thinking about that. I do see a lot of times,
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Speaker 1: a lot of scrape activity starting to open up around
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Speaker 1: October four to October tennis seems like for me most years,
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Speaker 1: So this is really really early. And and yeah, I
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Speaker 1: just I think I had nothing to lose, and by
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Speaker 1: reason at this guy, and I was just kind of
16:42
Speaker 1: dumbfounded by how he responded. Last season, you had mentioned
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Speaker 1: that a theme was kind of all the water. Um,
16:50
Speaker 1: not only that kind of delaying harvest and doing some
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Speaker 1: other things, but also just changing the deer movement in general,
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Speaker 1: and you had to kind of pattern them differently. Is
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Speaker 1: that something you're still dealing with dealing with It's a
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Speaker 1: different kind of water situation where it's actually been more
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Speaker 1: consistently wet instead of the big, heavy, almost flood like waters.
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Speaker 1: And so this year, um, we just the ground has
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Speaker 1: been wet a lot, and I think that's been more
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Speaker 1: conducive to scraping. I don't think it's had much of
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Speaker 1: as an effect on the deer movement like it did
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Speaker 1: last year. Um, it has kept the farmers out of
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Speaker 1: the fields. I think they would already be well into
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Speaker 1: the bean harvest right now, and there's there's they're cutting
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Speaker 1: some beans and I've even heard of a cornfield coming out.
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Speaker 1: But it's not I mean that the farmers are kind
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Speaker 1: of handicap. Right, A lot of states across the Midwest
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Speaker 1: are just opening for the first time here earlier this
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Speaker 1: week or this coming week for those people who are
17:47
Speaker 1: just getting to stand for the first time. Uh, you know,
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Speaker 1: explained to us price what your favorite setup is this
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Speaker 1: time of year. I am still even though in the
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Speaker 1: Braska starts September one, I would say between September one
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Speaker 1: and oberfter so or October tans I'm not getting down
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Speaker 1: into the woods very much at all. I'm hunting the
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Speaker 1: edge or maybe some staging areas just outside the egg
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Speaker 1: fields um, looking for easy entry, easy exit, trying to
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Speaker 1: learn what's going on and and still give myself a
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Speaker 1: chance without buggering up the inside of the woods too much.
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Speaker 1: Going forward, Then, in the sixth week or so, what
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Speaker 1: do you think that buck activity is going to be
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Speaker 1: on a scale of one to ten in Nebraska. I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna hope for it to still be a nine. And
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Speaker 1: the reason I I'm saying I'm hoping it will be
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Speaker 1: that way is we've got a really weird weather week
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Speaker 1: looking wrapping up this coming or coming up this week.
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Speaker 1: It's just I mean it's supposed be ninety tomorrow and
18:46
Speaker 1: then drop back down into the fifties and sixties and
18:49
Speaker 1: be wet six of the next seven days, and so
18:52
Speaker 1: it's it's just gonna be really unsettled, it looks like,
18:54
Speaker 1: but I think maybe a nine. Congrats on the great
18:57
Speaker 1: white tail Bryce, thanks for joining me, appreciate it. Thank you,
19:00
Speaker 1: Spencer alright and joining us on the line. Next is
19:03
Speaker 1: Tyler Kravitz in Pennsylvania from Flat Line White Tails now
19:07
Speaker 1: Tyler in Pennsylvania. What would you say the bucket activity
19:10
Speaker 1: has been lately on a scale of one to ten, um,
19:13
Speaker 1: I would say personally, as far as the activity for myself,
19:17
Speaker 1: I would say right around seven to eight. I mean,
19:19
Speaker 1: every time I've been out so far, I've definitely seen
19:22
Speaker 1: various bucks for sure. Um, So I would say it's
19:26
Speaker 1: definitely it's definitely pretty good this year so far. For
19:29
Speaker 1: most hunters this time of years, it can be an
19:32
Speaker 1: awkward transition of food sources. Is that something you're seeing
19:35
Speaker 1: right now in Pennsylvania that you're having a lot of
19:37
Speaker 1: natural brows available and losing some of those big egg fields.
19:42
Speaker 1: You know? Something for this year that I've noticed is uh,
19:45
Speaker 1: more than any years in past. Um A lot of
19:48
Speaker 1: the bucks that we're hunting, um I think are feeding
19:51
Speaker 1: in this corn field and working their way out of
19:53
Speaker 1: these corn field because there's a lack of aggs this
19:56
Speaker 1: year is in surrounding areas. So with that being said,
19:59
Speaker 1: hunting it trains istionary coming out. It's kind of perfect.
20:01
Speaker 1: I haven't seen a lot of them switching their summer
20:04
Speaker 1: patterns yet, so everything is kind of going how we
20:06
Speaker 1: wanted to as far as right now. How about it
20:08
Speaker 1: for some of those natural food sources, are you finding
20:11
Speaker 1: that this year has a solid acorn crop or not?
20:14
Speaker 1: I would say personally in our surrounding areas, UM, as
20:17
Speaker 1: far as the acorns go, this year, all of the
20:19
Speaker 1: oak stains I know of the red oaks, there's definitely
20:23
Speaker 1: a decent amount of red oaks, but not as many
20:25
Speaker 1: as years in the past. That the problem that we
20:28
Speaker 1: run into is we have hundreds and hundreds of acres
20:30
Speaker 1: of state ground around us that is all solid oak trees.
20:34
Speaker 1: So you know, in order to hunt these deer and
20:36
Speaker 1: be able to hone in in acorns, it's tough unless
20:39
Speaker 1: you can find a producing white oak, in which I
20:41
Speaker 1: do not know where any are this year that are
20:43
Speaker 1: producing that are white oaks. You mentioned maybe doing a
20:46
Speaker 1: morning set up focusing on that corn field. What would
20:49
Speaker 1: a morning set up look like for you trying to
20:51
Speaker 1: get one of these hit list bucks? Typically, what I'm
20:55
Speaker 1: gonna try to do when I when I get into
20:56
Speaker 1: this in the morning. Uh, you know, when these deer
20:59
Speaker 1: feeding in this corn yields a lot of times they're
21:01
Speaker 1: gonna leave your food source before daylight. So with that
21:04
Speaker 1: being said, what you want to do is you want
21:06
Speaker 1: to get into a transition area halfway between food to
21:09
Speaker 1: cover and a lot of this time. A lot of
21:12
Speaker 1: these times, what you can do is you can catch
21:14
Speaker 1: them in daylight coming back into the betting area without
21:16
Speaker 1: having to get into the bedding area. Disturbance and less
21:18
Speaker 1: need be. Are you seeing much for signmaking at this point? Actually?
21:24
Speaker 1: You know, lately I have started noticing a lot of
21:26
Speaker 1: scrapes and stuff like that. So they're definitely hitting a
21:28
Speaker 1: lot of scrapes around field edges and whatnot. Um as
21:31
Speaker 1: far as our cameras are showing us too, they're starting
21:33
Speaker 1: to hit scrapes as well. So I would say, yeah,
21:36
Speaker 1: I'm seeing a lot of sun. Are there any weather
21:38
Speaker 1: patterns coming up in these next few weeks that get
21:40
Speaker 1: you excited now that all of Pennsylvania is open for
21:44
Speaker 1: deer hunting. As far as for the next week's whether
21:48
Speaker 1: on my phone would it shown me it looks like
21:51
Speaker 1: it's actually gonna get warmer, So unfortunately, I feel as
21:53
Speaker 1: if that's not gonna be too good. But as far
21:56
Speaker 1: as tonight's looking, it looks like we're pretty good. We
21:57
Speaker 1: got some rain coming in stuff like that, so it
21:59
Speaker 1: should overcastye, as far as the evening hut goes, they
22:02
Speaker 1: should move a little bit earlier this evening. On that note,
22:06
Speaker 1: then what do you think that bucket activity is going
22:07
Speaker 1: to be in Pennsylvania on a scale of one to
22:09
Speaker 1: ten over this next week? I would say, if you're
22:13
Speaker 1: hunting unpressured white tails, you know where they're where, they're
22:15
Speaker 1: not getting a lot of the crowd of other people
22:17
Speaker 1: and whatnot. Um, it might not change a whole lot,
22:20
Speaker 1: but I would say at the tail end of this week,
22:22
Speaker 1: then gears are definitely gonna start switching. I would say
22:24
Speaker 1: to your activity this week would be right around the
22:27
Speaker 1: five as far as good movement. Al right, Tyler, good
22:30
Speaker 1: luck to you and the other guys a flat line
22:32
Speaker 1: white tails. Look forward to seeing what you come up
22:34
Speaker 1: with this fall. Thanks for joining me already. Thank you
22:39
Speaker 1: alright and joining me on the line. Next is Colton
22:41
Speaker 1: Clemens from Dream Chaser's Hunt in Kentucky. Now, Colton in Kentucky,
22:45
Speaker 1: what would you say the bucket activity has been lately
22:47
Speaker 1: on a scale of one to ten right now here? Lightly,
22:52
Speaker 1: it's probably been um anywhere between a six and a seven.
22:57
Speaker 1: Akrons are really really falling uh here lately. And the deer.
23:03
Speaker 1: We had a big cod front both both through last
23:05
Speaker 1: weekend and I had a lot of deer show up,
23:08
Speaker 1: a lot of daylight activity, and they were hitting acrons
23:11
Speaker 1: pretty hard here recently you mentioned the large amount of acorns.
23:15
Speaker 1: How does that compare two years past? This year has
23:18
Speaker 1: been quite a bit more than normal. We had a
23:21
Speaker 1: lot of rain early in the spring and I think
23:24
Speaker 1: that really really bumped them. And it's just been they
23:28
Speaker 1: were falling from the trees Saturday and Sunday it sounded
23:32
Speaker 1: like it was raining. You guys in Kentucky, you've been
23:36
Speaker 1: hunting for over a month now, so how have your
23:38
Speaker 1: setups changed from maybe mid September until now early October?
23:44
Speaker 1: UM meds early in September to mid September. We're pretty
23:48
Speaker 1: much sitting on food sources being filled. And in Kentucky
23:52
Speaker 1: it's legal debate, so a lot of people hunt over
23:54
Speaker 1: corn piles. Um as we get in Doctober, it's gonna change,
23:59
Speaker 1: probably gonna stay up on ridges, an oak ridges and
24:03
Speaker 1: scrapes Rob Linds. That's gonna get pretty hot here pretty soon.
24:09
Speaker 1: You just mentioned scrapes and Rob Lindes. Have you been
24:12
Speaker 1: seeing any signmaking in the woods yet, Um, a little bit, Uh,
24:17
Speaker 1: starting to, not a whole lot, but uh there within
24:20
Speaker 1: the next few weeks it should pick up. Well, you
24:23
Speaker 1: just killed the great buck here a few nights ago.
24:25
Speaker 1: Congrats with that. Tell us a little bit about that
24:27
Speaker 1: hunts a little bit about that setup. Um, we hunted, Well,
24:32
Speaker 1: it's on an oak flat. I hunted Saturday. The pressure
24:36
Speaker 1: was sky high. I think it was thirty point two
24:39
Speaker 1: four and I actually didn't see a deer Saturday afternoon
24:44
Speaker 1: at all. So I was pretty discouraged about that. With
24:47
Speaker 1: the spot I was sitting at because it's usually pretty
24:50
Speaker 1: good and uh, I didn't even know if I wanted
24:53
Speaker 1: to hunt Sunday, but I had a good wind, so
24:56
Speaker 1: we decided to go back in there. The pressure was
24:58
Speaker 1: a little lower Sunday. That was Saturday, and from five
25:03
Speaker 1: o'clock until I shot, the deer were absolutely just traveled
25:09
Speaker 1: up in deer every direction. There was deer everywhere, And
25:13
Speaker 1: so you are attributing that dear movement to the pressure change,
25:18
Speaker 1: I would think so, Um, yeah, I mean it was
25:22
Speaker 1: thirty points one five. I think Sunday it wasn't as
25:28
Speaker 1: high as it as Saturday. I think that had a
25:30
Speaker 1: little bit with it the weather. The temperatures were a
25:33
Speaker 1: little warmer actually Sunday. But um, for some reason, the
25:37
Speaker 1: deer everybody I talked to didn't see hardly anything Saturday,
25:41
Speaker 1: but Sunday they were just seeing a ton of deer.
25:45
Speaker 1: Now most places in the Midwest, the combines are getting
25:49
Speaker 1: started going. Will that change much for you guys in
25:52
Speaker 1: your part of Kentucky with that large acorn crop or
25:56
Speaker 1: once you see much of a difference. Mm hmm. Most
26:00
Speaker 1: the corn here is being harvested, are already harvested. The
26:03
Speaker 1: beans are still standing. They should be starting on them
26:06
Speaker 1: when the ground drives up. But I would say most
26:09
Speaker 1: people are going to be hitting re just because this year,
26:12
Speaker 1: because the icons are just crazy amount this year going forward.
26:17
Speaker 1: Then in the Sex week or so, what do you
26:19
Speaker 1: think that buck activity is going to be on a
26:21
Speaker 1: skill of one to Tanning, Kentucky going through this next week.
26:25
Speaker 1: I don't know the weather here. I don't know about
26:28
Speaker 1: anywhere else in Kentucky, but here and U between the
26:32
Speaker 1: southwest and south central. It's uh, it probably stayed the
26:35
Speaker 1: same because the weather really isn't gonna change much. It's
26:39
Speaker 1: still it's gonna be hot, actually, and the pressure is
26:41
Speaker 1: not gonna be they high. But it wouldn't hurt to
26:45
Speaker 1: be out in the woods. I mean, it's it's gonna
26:48
Speaker 1: get pretty good here soon. Congrats again on the great
26:51
Speaker 1: buck look forward to seeing what else you guys come
26:53
Speaker 1: up with the Dream Chasers hunt. Thanks for joining me Colton,
26:57
Speaker 1: I appreciate it all and joining me on the next
27:00
Speaker 1: is Gray drumming from Florida. Outdoor Experience in Florida. Now
27:04
Speaker 1: Gray in Florida. What would you say the bucket activity
27:06
Speaker 1: has been lately on a skiale of one to ten. Well,
27:10
Speaker 1: I think it started out as a nine, but within
27:13
Speaker 1: this last week in full moon it um, I think
27:15
Speaker 1: it's down to about a four. So we're anticipating it
27:19
Speaker 1: go back in the coming week, hopefully now in your
27:24
Speaker 1: part of Florida, you guys are in peak rut right now?
27:27
Speaker 1: Is that correct? We are we Um, we hit the
27:30
Speaker 1: rut about a week and a half ago. Um, the
27:34
Speaker 1: first part of this moon I think might have triggered it.
27:37
Speaker 1: But UM, and and we're seeing just a lot of chasing. UM.
27:41
Speaker 1: It's an exciting time to be out there. It's just
27:44
Speaker 1: ninety two degrees, so it's tough. And how was the
27:48
Speaker 1: timing of this year's rut played out versus other seasons?
27:53
Speaker 1: You know, I've seen it this time um in my past. UM,
27:57
Speaker 1: but it seems like it might be a week week
27:59
Speaker 1: and a half from what I have in my books
28:02
Speaker 1: on my calendar. But that's okay. UM. It's always nice
28:06
Speaker 1: when it's a little closer to UM, a little further
28:09
Speaker 1: in the fall, you know, with just comfort, um as
28:12
Speaker 1: far as the weather goes. But UM, hey, we'll take
28:14
Speaker 1: it when we can get it. And it's it's been active,
28:17
Speaker 1: so it's been exciting. You reference the full moon a
28:19
Speaker 1: little bit earlier. What are some moon phases that you're
28:22
Speaker 1: looking for this time of year when the rut is
28:24
Speaker 1: really going or do you think the moon doesn't quite
28:26
Speaker 1: matter as much? Well, one thing about it, We're gonna
28:29
Speaker 1: hunt regardless. You know, sometimes we find ourselves spending so
28:33
Speaker 1: much time on what moon phases it's going on and everything,
28:37
Speaker 1: and then and we tell ourselves, shoot, we're gonna go
28:39
Speaker 1: out there regardless what it is. So um, but I
28:42
Speaker 1: think just before the full moon is probably my favorite time.
28:45
Speaker 1: It seems like everything is really active and moving. Um,
28:49
Speaker 1: it's kind of um correlized with them with the start
28:54
Speaker 1: of our rut here this time of year or this
28:56
Speaker 1: this particular year, and um, that's generally my favorite time
29:00
Speaker 1: just before the full moon. Uh, but it's definitely been
29:04
Speaker 1: tricky this last week. I would say, I imagine one
29:08
Speaker 1: of the challenges you guys face every year is the precipitation.
29:11
Speaker 1: You guys have made quite a bit of water this
29:12
Speaker 1: year as well. Correct we have, we have we've dodged
29:16
Speaker 1: the hurricanes, but um, we've had quite a better rainfall
29:19
Speaker 1: record rainfall for us and the majority of the woods.
29:22
Speaker 1: We have a little ever ten thousand acres that we
29:25
Speaker 1: utilize here and I would say that's flooded. So it's
29:31
Speaker 1: been challenging. But um, you know, if you can target
29:34
Speaker 1: the high ridges, um, find some some oaks, um on
29:40
Speaker 1: the high ridges than you you know, that's that's what
29:42
Speaker 1: we're trying to target right now. Um, the morning is
29:45
Speaker 1: obviously a little more comfortable. It is getting down to
29:47
Speaker 1: around than the upper sixties at night, so it's not
29:51
Speaker 1: unbearable to hunt the mornings. Um. We're trying to my
29:55
Speaker 1: strategy when we have hunters and in the morning time,
29:58
Speaker 1: you don't obviously want to bust the deer off the
30:01
Speaker 1: the feed patterns, so we'll try to maybe set up
30:04
Speaker 1: some strategic ambush spots, you know them coming back from feeding. Um,
30:09
Speaker 1: going back to bed, I would say, other than this
30:12
Speaker 1: last week, it's been a very successful year for us
30:14
Speaker 1: the floor. Talking about those flooded properties, how did the
30:19
Speaker 1: deer respond once that water does recede. Are they moving
30:22
Speaker 1: back in there pretty quickly or is there a little
30:25
Speaker 1: bit of a leg period? Um? Were there not necessarily
30:28
Speaker 1: working that as soon as the water's gone well the
30:33
Speaker 1: way it is right now, that's a good question. Um.
30:35
Speaker 1: Most of the time when it does flood, the majority
30:37
Speaker 1: of our rains is hitting us in in August, first
30:41
Speaker 1: part of September, and you know it won't recede UM,
30:47
Speaker 1: I would say until about mid December. Um. Once that happens,
30:51
Speaker 1: the majority of our acons have either rotted or dried up,
30:54
Speaker 1: you know, and they're starting hit feed. You can't hunt
30:56
Speaker 1: over feed in Florida attractives they had obviously a deal,
31:00
Speaker 1: obviously spread out more. It makes it a bit more challenging,
31:03
Speaker 1: but it kind of corelides with the acorns and the
31:06
Speaker 1: in the natural fruit so to speak, drying up too.
31:09
Speaker 1: So we're able to just move from targeting the high
31:12
Speaker 1: ridges once it drives up into focusing on our attractments.
31:17
Speaker 1: Has this been a normal you for you guys as
31:19
Speaker 1: far as the acorn crap goes. Are you seeing an
31:21
Speaker 1: abundance there in Florida? We we seem to always have
31:25
Speaker 1: a pretty good acron crop, but I would say this
31:27
Speaker 1: year has been an abundance, and it's been early too
31:30
Speaker 1: for us. It's it's come in about three weeks early.
31:34
Speaker 1: I don't recall seeing the quantity of acrons on the
31:37
Speaker 1: ground as as I've seen this year, um, And that
31:40
Speaker 1: that has made it a bit challenging. How about with signmaking,
31:44
Speaker 1: you guys being in peak right, there are those scrapes
31:47
Speaker 1: and rubs still relevant and something that you're keying in
31:50
Speaker 1: on or not it's they're starting to phase out. I'm
31:54
Speaker 1: seeing a few of them still being hit, but I'm
31:56
Speaker 1: not seeing any of real I would say fresh new
31:59
Speaker 1: sign um. So it's starting to phase out, definitely. But
32:05
Speaker 1: in Florida, we have several different ruts, So this is
32:08
Speaker 1: the first one and it's one of the few states
32:10
Speaker 1: I've met, not the only, that they will run throughout
32:12
Speaker 1: the season. Um. So it's and you can find a
32:15
Speaker 1: rut in August, and you can also find a rut
32:18
Speaker 1: um similar to Alabama's and um late January going forward.
32:22
Speaker 1: Then in the sext week yourself, what do you think
32:24
Speaker 1: that bucke activity is going to be on a scale
32:26
Speaker 1: of one to ten in Florida. Well, I can't speak
32:29
Speaker 1: for all of Florida, but I know in our part
32:30
Speaker 1: of Florida, with it being in the rut, I anticipated
32:33
Speaker 1: to be an eight from what I'm seeing on camera.
32:36
Speaker 1: So if they can just shift their feed patterns into
32:38
Speaker 1: a little bit more daylight than then it will definitely
32:41
Speaker 1: be an eight or higher. All right, Grey, Well, thanks
32:44
Speaker 1: for joining me, and good luck to all your hunters
32:46
Speaker 1: at Florida Outdoor Experience. Thank you very much. Have a
32:49
Speaker 1: good one. And that concludes this week's episode of Wired
32:53
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32:57
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