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Show Rewind 10-2-26 · South Carolina's Morning News

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  Speaker 1: This is South Carolina's Morning News on 103.5 FM and
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  Speaker 1: 560 AM, WVOC, Columbia, and 94.3 WSC, Charleston.
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  Speaker 2: Need to push the right buttons.
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  Speaker 3: There you go.
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  Speaker 2: All right, so good morning. How are you today, Christopher?
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  Speaker 4: I'm good.
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  Speaker 5: And Christopher, that story that they were just talking about
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  Speaker 5: in the South Carolina news, that is unbelievable. 40-car pileup
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  Speaker 5: on 95 southbound going over Lake Marion, and I.
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  Speaker 3: I thought they had said more than that.
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  Speaker 2: Is it more than 40?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I believe it is. I had seen at one
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  Speaker 3: time a report that said, 15 tractor trailers and 50 cars.
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  Speaker 5: When I was listening to a press conference from one
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  Speaker 5: of the police officers, he was saying it's going to
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  Speaker 5: be closed for a while. But then he was talking
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  Speaker 5: about if you're going northbound and for people who I'm
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  Speaker 5: assuming most people who are listening have been on 95
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  Speaker 5: northbound over Lake Marion. When you're going, oh, it's two
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  Speaker 5: separate highways like there. It's not, you know, I'm saying
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  Speaker 5: northbound is not like right there.
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  Speaker 2: It's two separate bridges, basically.
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  Speaker 5: But he was saying that the delay going northbound was
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  Speaker 5: so much, I guess just everybody staring at it, that
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  Speaker 5: he said, make sure that your vehicles are fully fueled
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  Speaker 5: up because you might be there for a while. But
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  Speaker 5: the people coming off, I can't even imagine the traffic.
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  Speaker 5: I was trying to figure out they would probably have
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  Speaker 5: to zigzag over to Route 52, I think it was,
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  Speaker 5: and then come down almost like into Daniel Island or
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  Speaker 5: something and then try to cut across 26th.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure it was just chaos yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it sounds like it was. And I mean, the
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  Speaker 3: cleanup was supposed to go into the overnight last night.
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  Speaker 3: I haven't seen. Have they finished?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I'll check on that.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, we will be searching that out. But if that
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  Speaker 5: is an unbelievable story that they're talking about all across
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  Speaker 5: the country today.
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  Speaker 2: Let's see.
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  Speaker 5: We got other local stuff that we can talk to.
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  Speaker 5: Alex Murdaugh's lawyers filed a forced estate to turn over
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  Speaker 5: material and claims. that the Hampton County officers handled the
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  Speaker 5: murder weapons and bloody clothing. The weapons were never found.
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  Speaker 5: The status hearing will be set for October 16th in
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  Speaker 5: Lexington County. We've also got the, if you want to
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  Speaker 5: be in-person voter registration, that is today is the deadline. Now,
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  Speaker 5: for some reason, we allow you to do online and
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  Speaker 5: mail registration through Sunday.
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  Speaker 2: I don't understand why.
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  Speaker 5: But if you want to file in person today is
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  Speaker 5: the last day. Um, the, uh, arts commission killing some
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  Speaker 5: funding for the two upstate LGBTQ groups.
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  Speaker 2: You think we're catching a lawsuit with that?
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  Speaker 3: I think the ACLU had us on standby the whole time.
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  Speaker 2: They had it already printed out and ready to go.
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  Speaker 2: And it was just like, is it, is it done?
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  Speaker 2: It's done. Okay. Send it now.
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  Speaker 5: Uh, so we'll maybe talk about some of those things
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  Speaker 5: as well. And, um, You know, we didn't talk about
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  Speaker 5: yesterday was the Minnesota situation. I think we'll get into
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  Speaker 5: that a little bit coming up in just a minute.
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  Speaker 5: Just the unbelievable violation of ethics alleged.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I say it's alleged. It's in the New York Times.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, unless the New York Times is faking interviews,
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  Speaker 5: which I wouldn't put past them, unless the New York
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  Speaker 5: Times is faking these interviews, then every judge in Minnesota
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  Speaker 5: is up the creek right now. And we'll talk about
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  Speaker 5: what Todd Blanche had to say about that and other things.
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  Speaker 5: Of course, we want to get your talkbacks in as well.
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  Speaker 5: So that microphone button on the iHeartRadio app, that's the
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  Speaker 5: number one way to connect with us, Christopher Thompson. Kelly Nash,
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  Speaker 5: waiting for you. It is 6.07.
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  Speaker 1: Live from the state capitol, this is South Carolina's Morning News.
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  Speaker 5: Hi there, I'm Kelly Nash, Christopher Thompson. You just got
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  Speaker 5: some breaking news a moment ago.
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  Speaker 3: Well, about three hours ago, Trooper Nick with the South
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  Speaker 3: Carolina Highway Patrol posted one lane southbound on I-95 near
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  Speaker 3: that accident with the bridge crossing. Lake Marion, that was
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  Speaker 3: one lane southbound was open. Now, three minutes ago, he
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  Speaker 3: posted all lanes are open. So apparently cleanup has finished
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  Speaker 3: to the point where Traffic is fully flowing again.
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  Speaker 2: Fantastic.
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  Speaker 5: And obviously that would affect northbound as well because yesterday
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  Speaker 5: the delays, everybody's rubbernecking.
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  Speaker 2: So that's great news.
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  Speaker 5: And also you were just talking a little bit about,
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  Speaker 5: you know, that was caused by the fog that was.
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  Speaker 2: Coming up off the lake. But you were saying we
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  Speaker 2: got some fog advisories.
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  Speaker 3: Both for Columbia and Charleston. A dense fog advisory for
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  Speaker 3: Columbia until 10 o'clock this morning. Meanwhile, Charleston checking in.
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  Speaker 3: A dense fog advisory until 9 a.m.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 5: Well, be careful as you get your day started and
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  Speaker 5: head off to work. As we launch into our Friday,
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  Speaker 5: we're having a better day probably than most of the
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  Speaker 5: judges in Minnesota, if you hadn't seen this story. Todd Blanche,
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  Speaker 5: you know, listen, I'm not a judge.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not a lawyer.
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  Speaker 5: I never went to law school, but I have watched television.
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  Speaker 5: And I know one thing that every person involved with
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  Speaker 5: the law at any level would tell you, I cannot comment.
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  Speaker 5: regarding ongoing litigation. That news didn't seem to make it
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  Speaker 5: to the judges in Minnesota, as Todd Blanch explains.
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  Speaker 6: The Department of Justice filed a judicial misconduct complaint against
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  Speaker 6: all but one district court judge in the District of
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  Speaker 6: Minnesota for violating various judicial canons.
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  Speaker 2: Specifically, the former chief.
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  Speaker 6: Judge spoke on the record to the New York Times
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  Speaker 6: about the immigration surge late last year and early this
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  Speaker 6: year in Minneapolis. The judge sat for a 90-minute interview
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  Speaker 6: with The New York Times. Six other members of Minnesota's
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  Speaker 6: federal bench also agreed to speak to The New York Times.
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  Speaker 2: The judge apparently told the reporter that the.
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  Speaker 6: Trump administration has a, quote, disregard for court orders, end quote,
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  Speaker 6: that this disregard clogged his courthouse to a near standstill,
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  Speaker 6: contributing to rising tensions in the protest-filled city of Minneapolis.
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  Speaker 6: His impression was that most, if not all, of the
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  Speaker 6: noncompliance was due to incompetence, not due to conscious defiance
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  Speaker 6: of orders, and that the lack of resources led to
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  Speaker 6: a result that should have been anticipated and that threatened
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  Speaker 6: the foundations of the legal system.
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  Speaker 7: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Now, understand, all of those cases are currently, right now,
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  Speaker 2: under appeal.
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  Speaker 3: So they're still pending?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, they're still pending.
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  Speaker 3: You can't do that.
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  Speaker 5: Of course you can't do that. Now- Remember the words
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  Speaker 5: that they used in the New York Times story that
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  Speaker 5: it's the incompetence of the Trump administration that is leading
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  Speaker 5: to the clogging of the courts to the point where
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  Speaker 5: they're not even functioning. That's that's the words of the judges. Now,
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  Speaker 5: let's go to this is Minnesota Public Radio, and they've
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  Speaker 5: got the not one of the judges, but one of
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  Speaker 5: their apologists, a legal ethics expert. is how he's described
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  Speaker 5: in the story. And he says, not so fast, my friends. Quote,
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  Speaker 5: one of the two rules that the DOJ alleges was
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  Speaker 5: violated says that a judge should act in a manner
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  Speaker 5: that promotes public confidence in the integrity and impartiality of
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  Speaker 5: the judiciary. This is a guy named William Werns. There's
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  Speaker 5: an affirmative duty to promote public confidence. And the judges.
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  Speaker 2: Clearly thought that that's what they were doing.
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  Speaker 5: Did anything in that quote sound as if they were
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  Speaker 5: trying to build public confidence or were they saying that
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  Speaker 5: the whole thing's falling apart?
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  Speaker 3: That sounded like they were saying the whole thing's about
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  Speaker 3: to implode thanks to Donald Trump and his immigration efforts.
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  Speaker 5: It's amazing how they can hear the same things that
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  Speaker 5: we hear. And it's just completely, their minds don't process
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  Speaker 5: information the way the rest of us do. That when
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  Speaker 5: a judge says that the Trump administration is so incompetent
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  Speaker 5: that they're clogging up the court system to the point
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  Speaker 5: where we can't get to real cases now. That is
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  Speaker 5: their efforts to promote public confidence in the integrity of
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  Speaker 5: the judiciary.
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  Speaker 2: That is the opposite. And yet that's going to be
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  Speaker 2: the defense they're making, I suppose.
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  Speaker 3: And what happened to the judiciary being nonpartisan? I mean,
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  Speaker 3: to attack a Republican administration, they're not attacking a They're
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  Speaker 3: not attacking a point of view. They are attacking literally
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  Speaker 3: the Republican Party and Donald Trump.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I don't know if we can say
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  Speaker 5: the entire Republican Party, but he is the Republican president.
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  Speaker 5: And it is the Trump administration that they're saying is
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  Speaker 5: so incompetent that they don't even know how to file
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  Speaker 5: charges or who to charge.
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  Speaker 2: Well, maybe maybe that's true. Maybe it's not. But they're
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  Speaker 2: filing them against you now.
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  Speaker 5: So all but one of the judges sat down with
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  Speaker 5: the New York Times to talk about ongoing litigation.
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  Speaker 2: That is stunning.
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  Speaker 5: Again, never been a lawyer, don't want to be a lawyer,
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  Speaker 5: but everybody knows you can't comment on ongoing litigation except
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  Speaker 5: for those clowns.
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  Speaker 2: All right. If you have thoughts on that story, let
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  Speaker 2: us know.
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  Speaker 5: I love to see the fact that the Trump administration
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  Speaker 5: is fighting back because I think it's too easy for
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  Speaker 5: administrations to just let that stuff go and slide. And
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  Speaker 5: then what happens is you build a culture of rebellion
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  Speaker 5: against the law and you get these activist judges and
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  Speaker 5: activist prosecutors who decide to charge or not charge based
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  Speaker 5: off of.
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  Speaker 2: Whatever their feelings are as opposed to what the law says.
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  Speaker 5: Let us know what your thoughts on that is by
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  Speaker 5: using the Talkback feature on the iHeartRadio app.
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  Speaker 2: It is 617.
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  Speaker 7: This is South Carolina's Morning News.
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  Speaker 5: Well, you knew we were going to catch a lawsuit
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  Speaker 5: over this, right? The Commission for the South Carolina Arts
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  Speaker 5: voted 5-3 yesterday to reject giving $ 13, 000 to the Greenville
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  Speaker 5: Gay Men's Chorus and $ 4, 000 to the Spartanburg Proud. Mary
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  Speaker 5: Theater Company. The meeting comes about a month after they
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  Speaker 5: had approved $ 3. 7 million for about 170 other art organizations
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  Speaker 5: throughout the state. Those two are the ones that were denied.
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  Speaker 5: And representatives have already contacted the ACLU. And with those
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  Speaker 5: two being singled out, Mary Butler or Matt Butler, I'm sorry,
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  Speaker 5: with the ACLU says only these two groups are denied funding.
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  Speaker 5: Only these two are singled out and they're made to
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  Speaker 5: jump through additional hoops. Something is rotten in South Carolina.
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  Speaker 5: It is not a good day for South Carolina, for
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  Speaker 5: the arts and artistic expression or for the First Amendment.
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  Speaker 5: I would point out that nobody's First Amendment is being violated.
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  Speaker 5: You're more than welcome to do your plays and sing
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  Speaker 5: your songs and do whatever you'd like. We're just not
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  Speaker 5: going to use tax dollars to pay for it. Jessica
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  Speaker 5: Rourke and Rip Park of Easley singled out in applications
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  Speaker 5: by the choir and theater company ahead of a meeting
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  Speaker 5: in June.
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  Speaker 2: These are two board members. And here's what Parks wrote.
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  Speaker 5: While these organizations have every right to promote their agendas privately,
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  Speaker 5: it is not the role of the state-funded agency to
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  Speaker 5: promote them. I can't support these requests. In the future,
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  Speaker 5: I would appreciate you bringing controversial requests to the commissioner's
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  Speaker 5: attention in advance for discussion. And some of the state
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  Speaker 5: legislators are thrilled with this decision.
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  Speaker 3: Well, Shane Massey had given them political cover because he
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  Speaker 3: told the Arts Commission, he said, look, we're not going
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  Speaker 3: to fund this. If you do it, then we're going
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  Speaker 3: to look poorly at you. So he He pretty much
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  Speaker 3: told them, all right, here's your marching orders. This is
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  Speaker 3: not going to get passed.
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  Speaker 5: Mary Adam, the executive director for the Gay Men's Chorus,
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  Speaker 5: says that this decision has left her disappointed and stunned.
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  Speaker 5: And that the, they're just pointing out that, you know,
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  Speaker 5: we're just gay guys who want to sing songs.
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  Speaker 2: And why can't you fund that?
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  Speaker 3: Sing all you want.
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  Speaker 5: She said that this decision smacks of homophobia and blatant bigotry.
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  Speaker 5: And Butler says that the decision will have a larger
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  Speaker 5: chilling effect. And this is the takeaway. If you're LGBTQ,
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  Speaker 5: keep moving. I would venture a guess, and I don't
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  Speaker 5: know this to be true, Christopher, but in those 170
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  Speaker 5: different organizations that did receive funding from the arts, I
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  Speaker 5: would imagine there's a large group of gay and lesbian
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  Speaker 5: people in there that they are not being denied. But
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  Speaker 5: that is not the central focus of the group. That
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  Speaker 5: would be the difference. If you're an artist and you're gay,
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  Speaker 5: that's not a problem. But if you're an artist who's gay,
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  Speaker 5: who's making your sexuality the number one thing about your group,
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  Speaker 5: you're literally calling yourselves gay. I am the gay choir.
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  Speaker 5: You're not saying we're a choir. You could be filled
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  Speaker 5: with gay people. But if the purpose is to promote
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  Speaker 5: that you're gay, that's something that at least still today,
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  Speaker 5: is considered controversial.
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  Speaker 3: It's promoting an alternative lifestyle. That is still an alternative lifestyle. Now,
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  Speaker 3: it's your free will to choose that, and nobody's stopping
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  Speaker 3: you from doing that. But funding it's a different story.
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  Speaker 5: Proud Mary Theater putting on Kinky Boots, a musical about
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  Speaker 5: a struggling show factory in England that avoids bankruptcy by
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  Speaker 5: selling their sturdy stilettos to drag queens. So again, South
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  Speaker 5: Carolina taxpayers shouldn't be asked to fund something that's promoting
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  Speaker 5: like a drag queen or something like that.
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  Speaker 2: That is where we're at right now.
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  Speaker 5: It'll be interesting to see if the ACLU can win
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  Speaker 5: a lawsuit that forces us to start.
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  Speaker 2: Paying for this.
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  Speaker 5: Because if that's what happens, I would imagine that the
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  Speaker 5: Arts Commission gets voted out of extinction and just go, boop,
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  Speaker 5: that's it.
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  Speaker 2: We're not funding anything then.
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  Speaker 3: And then you're crushing the entire arts community just to
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  Speaker 3: make your point.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. Exactly.
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  Speaker 5: There's no possible way you can imagine that taxpayers should
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  Speaker 5: be forced to fund something that goes against their religion,
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  Speaker 5: their beliefs, so on and so forth. If you're agnostic,
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  Speaker 5: we're not– I mean– I'd be interested to see, do
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  Speaker 5: we have things in there that are promoting Jesus? Do
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  Speaker 5: we have things in there that are promoting any kind
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  Speaker 5: of religion in the arts groups? I would doubt it,
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  Speaker 5: but maybe. I mean, I didn't go through all 170.
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  Speaker 5: If you know something about that, let us know. Use
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  Speaker 5: the talkback feature. Whatever side of the equation you come
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  Speaker 5: down on, we'd love to hear what you're thinking about.
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  Speaker 5: Just go ahead and hit that talkback feature on the
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  Speaker 5: iHeartRadio app.
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  Speaker 2: It is now 628.
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  Speaker 1: You're listening to South Carolina's Morning News.
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  Speaker 2: It is 633. Good morning. Kelly Nash with Christopher Thompson. And,
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  Speaker 2: you know, we encourage.
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  Speaker 5: You to use the talkback feature sometimes to get your
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  Speaker 5: frustrations out. And yesterday we had a lot of people
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  Speaker 5: kind of chiming in about the Darlene Graham campaign, and
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  Speaker 5: they were frustrated. And we understand and We, you know,
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  Speaker 5: kind of are there with you.
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  Speaker 2: Is anybody besides me.
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  Speaker 5: Getting more and more frustrated with the Trump campaign? And
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  Speaker 5: when I say the Trump campaign, I know Donald Trump's
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  Speaker 5: not running for office. I know Donald, but he is
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  Speaker 5: trying to help win Republican seats in the midterm. And
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  Speaker 5: when I read this story yesterday, I said to myself,
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  Speaker 5: how could this possibly be when you know that every
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  Speaker 5: single poll, every single, even just your gut would tell you,
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  Speaker 5: history would tell you that the number one thing when
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  Speaker 5: it comes to voting is the economy. That is really
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  Speaker 5: all Trump should be talking about at this point. Let's
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  Speaker 5: just talk about the economy, maybe a little bit with
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  Speaker 5: the AI, try to soothe some nerves, understand that, but
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  Speaker 5: really just talk about trying to drive prices down, let
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  Speaker 5: people know about the great things that's been happening with
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  Speaker 5: the economy, but also I'm right there with you.
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  Speaker 2: I'm in the struggle.
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  Speaker 5: I'm trying to fight, fight, fight, fight, fight. I'm feeling
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  Speaker 5: your pain, whatever. Say those types of things. Instead, you know,
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  Speaker 5: the headline says that the Trump administration has got the
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  Speaker 5: DOJ reviewing whether Nixon was mistreated during a Watergate scandal.
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  Speaker 3: What?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Wall Street Journal reporting that the Department of Justice is
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  Speaker 5: now reviewing whether the special prosecutor's office that investigated the
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  Speaker 5: famed Watergate break-in had actually committed misconduct.
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  Speaker 4: Why?
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  Speaker 5: Why would that make it into the news? Why would
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  Speaker 5: it even be happening? I'm not saying that they can't
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  Speaker 5: walk and chew gum. And of course, if for some
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  Speaker 5: reason they want this to happen, they can. But then,
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  Speaker 5: you know, I guess I didn't even notice, but apparently
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  Speaker 5: a couple of days ago, J.D. Vance was at the
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  Speaker 5: Richard Nixon Presidential Library out in California. And he said, quote,
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  Speaker 5: Nixon's legacy is enjoying a bit of a renaissance. As
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  Speaker 5: I joked backstage, if Watergate happened tomorrow, this would be
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  Speaker 5: like a 12 hour news story. The idea that it
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  Speaker 5: would have taken down a president is absolutely crazy. If
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  Speaker 5: you look at the story of how the deep state
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  Speaker 5: took Richard Nixon down, it's not all that different from
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  Speaker 5: the same groups of people, the same institutions that are
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  Speaker 5: trying to do that with Donald Trump and the first
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  Speaker 5: Trump administration.
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  Speaker 2: This is the type of stuff that.
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  Speaker 5: Comes out of the Trump administration that that has nothing
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  Speaker 5: to do with the american people literally everybody involved in
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  Speaker 5: watergate is dead i mean i don't know there's probably
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  Speaker 5: a couple people well what's his name um roger stone
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  Speaker 5: was somewhat involved with watergate he's still alive what is
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  Speaker 5: he like 80 but for the most part anybody who
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  Speaker 5: had anything to do richard nixon is dead the prosecutors
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  Speaker 5: are dead uh there's Was Bernstein still alive, but Woodward's dead?
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 17:59
  Speaker 5: But who cares? It's 50 years ago. More than 50
• 18:03
  Speaker 5: years ago. It's like 50, 55 years ago almost.
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: And if you made a list of voters' top priorities
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: right now, it would not be in the top 100. No.
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: How Nixon was treated during Watergate.
• 18:18
  Speaker 5: I kind of understand the mindset that this is... trying
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: to show that the deep state is not new and
• 18:25
  Speaker 5: that there's always been a whole group of individuals very
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: vested in power that will do whatever. But again, the
• 18:34
  Speaker 5: Richard Nixon thing, it is what it is. Are we
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: going to somehow revive Richard Nixon's legacy or something?
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: Get off of it. Talk about prices.
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: Talk about what you're doing in order to, you know,
• 18:54
  Speaker 5: sing the praises of what you're doing with the Iowa
• 18:57
  Speaker 5: steel plant. Sing the praises of what's going on with
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: the nuclear renaissance here in South Carolina. Sing the praises
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: about your border. Sing the praises about anything that could
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: be helping Americans today. This is a huge leap off
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: of messaging. And I don't know, I would have thought J.D.
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: Vance was smarter than this. To even talk about it. Like, again,
• 19:22
  Speaker 5: if this is something you want to do after the midterms, great.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: Have at it, Haas.
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: But right now, how many days away are we? We're
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: like 34 days away from the midterms. This is all
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: you can be talking about is how are we trying
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: to make Americans' lives better and what is the alternative?
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: That's all they should be talking about. And instead, we're
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: getting stories about Richard Nixon from 1972. on freaking believe.
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: It's a supreme lack of focus and and i mean
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: that there are every poll out there shows it's the
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: economy it's health care and it's immigration in that order
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: and for for the trump administration to take their eye
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: off the ball at this point that's a bad look.
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: I remember one of the great Things that they did
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: in his campaign for the second presidency was Kamala Harris
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: is for they and them.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: Donald Trump is for you. And it.
• 20:21
  Speaker 5: Doesn't feel like it right now. That's the vibe that
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: a lot of Americans are getting is it doesn't feel
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: like Donald Trump is for me. It feels like Donald
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: Trump is for something. But it doesn't feel like us
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: right now.
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: Every headline about the Kennedy Center or about the reflecting
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: pool or, you know, his new helipad. Okay, those are
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: cosmetic improvements, but they're not affecting our lives. Tell us
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: how you're impacting our lives.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 20:52
  Speaker 5: Maybe Christopher and I are out here on an island
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: and MAGA wants to tell us that we're wrong.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: I'm up for it. Come at us, MAGA.
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: Or maybe you want to share in the frustration. Use
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: the talkback feature. Either way, that's the microphone that you
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: see on the free iHeartRadio app. Hopefully you've downloaded that
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: by now. We'll take a break and be back with
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: more at 639.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: Your news, traffic, weather, and information stations. This is South
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: Carolina's Morning News on 103.5 FM, 560 AM, WVOC, and 94.3 WSC.
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: This morning in the Post and Courier story headline, Annie
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: Andrews outspending and outraising Darlene Graham in South Carolina U.S.
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: Senate seat. She's still the underdog. And like they say,
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: we're a month from Election Day and Darlene Graham, the
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: Republican nominee for the U.S. Senate seat that she's held
• 21:46
  Speaker 5: for three months, has very scarce presence around the state
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: of South Carolina and Andy Andrews seems to be everywhere. Television, radio,
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: direct mail pieces, billboards. It's all over the place for
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: Andy Andrews. Andrews is responsible for 96% of the advertising
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: spent in this race.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: 96%.
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: And the scary takeaway from this story is Nick Reynolds
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: says Darlene Graham is having trouble raising money.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: There's no energy there.
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: How are you going to combat Annie Andrews when she's
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: everywhere right now and you're nowhere? I again, she's been
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: working in the Senate. I understand that she hasn't had
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: time to campaign in South Carolina. But when you can't
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: be here in person, that's when you're all over the airwaves.
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: I don't know what was there some sort of reason
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: because it wouldn't wouldn't Lindsey Graham have already had a
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: war chest. Does she not get access to that? Is
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: that part of the problem here?
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, we know her PAC stepped up for
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: security of strength. They stepped up for in the runoff. Certainly.
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: I don't know where they are right now.
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: It says the National Republican Senate Committee, which coordinated one
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: point six million in spending during the primary, has declined
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: comment on whether or not it would assist her again.
• 23:12
  Speaker 7: Wow.
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: The National Republican Senate Committee declined comment on whether or
• 23:18
  Speaker 5: not they're going to support Darlene Graham.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: That is, what?
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: Are you kidding me? Are you actually kidding me? Is
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: the South Carolina, excuse me, is the National Republican Party
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: prepared to let South Carolina Senate seat go?
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: Is that what they're saying?
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: I don't know why this would not be considered, you know, emergency,
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: emergency red lights flashing. Somebody should be waking up at
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: the national office saying, Hang on a second. Are we
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: really within one point and we're getting outspent 96%? 96%
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: of the advertising is going for one candidate.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: That's crazy.
• 23:59
  Speaker 7: All right.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: You got thoughts on that? Use the talkback feature. It
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: is now 647.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: From the Midlands to the Lowcountry, this is South Carolina's
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: Morning News.
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: With Kelly Nash and Christopher Thompson, we were talking about
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: how Annie Andrews is now outspending Darlene Graham at such
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: a rate that 96% of all advertising in this race
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: is coming from her. And the Republican National Senate Committee
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: has no comment on whether or not they're going to
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: help contribute in this race. I would just remind everybody,
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: I just went to progressivepunch.org. So they rate who are
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: the most reliable senators and who's furthest to the left.
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: And these are all the big names, by the way.
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: These are the ones that are going to be in control.
• 24:47
  Speaker 5: If Annie Andrews wins, I'm talking about Elizabeth Warren, Ed Markey,
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: Chris Van Hollen, Chris Murphy, Maisie Harano, Richard Blumenthal, Alex Padilla.
• 24:59
  Speaker 5: That's when you've if if you allow Annie Andrews to win.
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: These are the people that take over the Senate. They
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: are the ones who decide the committees. And that's your leadership.
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: That is the new leadership. That is what America's future
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: looks like. Somebody needs to wake up at the national
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: office and say, we need to win this race.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: This is South Carolina's morning news on 103.5 FM and
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: 560 AM, WVOC, Columbia, and 94.3 WSC, Charleston.
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: 7.03 with Kelly Nash and Christopher Thompson. We were talking
• 25:31
  Speaker 5: about the new story this morning at the Post and
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: Courier entitled Annie Andrews Outspending and Outraising Darlene Graham in
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: South Carolina U.S.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: Senate seat.
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: And in this story, they say, and we have no
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: way to Fact check this, but 96% of the advertising
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: in this race is coming pro-Annie Andrews. That is a
• 25:56
  Speaker 5: really one-way race.
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: That's a media blitz, and I think most people would
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: probably agree with it, not even seeing the numbers. I mean,
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: all you have to do is look up at a TV,
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: and you're going to see Annie Andrews' face constantly.
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: Then in it, we heard from, in this story, again,
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: written by Nick over at the Post and Courier, they're
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: talking about the Republican Senate. What is it called again?
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: I'm trying to remember the name of the group. The
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: National Republican Senate Committee, which had coordinated $ 1. 6 million for
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: Graham in the primary, has declined comment on whether or
• 26:32
  Speaker 5: not they will assist her again in the general election.
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: I mean, we are 30, just about a little over
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: a month away from this thing. And they haven't even
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: made up their minds if they're going to support her
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: in this thing.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: This is crazy.
• 26:43
  Speaker 5: And Christopher, people are using the Talkback feature on the
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: iHeartRadio app to talk about their thoughts on this race.
• 26:50
  Speaker 8: The political oligarchy in the Republican Party wanted her in,
• 26:54
  Speaker 8: and we did not want.
• 26:57
  Speaker 7: Ms.
• 26:58
  Speaker 8: Graham as far as our.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: Nominee. And that's the problem.
• 27:04
  Speaker 8: And the reason why the Republican Party is doing so
• 27:06
  Speaker 8: slack right now as far as the midterms, is they're
• 27:09
  Speaker 8: trying to keep the Democratic Party alive. It's one oligarchy
• 27:13
  Speaker 8: protecting another.
• 27:15
  Speaker 9: Darlene, not Nordean, simply cannot win. People do not like her.
• 27:20
  Speaker 9: She got less than 6% to come out and vote
• 27:22
  Speaker 9: for her in the runoff. She can't win. Please don't
• 27:27
  Speaker 9: waste your vote. If people don't come together and support Dr.
• 27:31
  Speaker 9: Casey Whitener, Winnie Wecker Andrews is going to win, and
• 27:35
  Speaker 9: it'll be your fault because you split the vote. But
• 27:38
  Speaker 9: for Casey Weidner, please.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: Did he call Andy Andrews weenie whacker?
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: He did.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: Interesting.
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: Interesting analysis there. Political analysis off the talkback feature. Thank
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: you both for your insights and your feelings as to
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: how this race is going.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: I am a.
• 28:01
  Speaker 5: I like to... I mean, I don't know. I think
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: that I'm pretty grounded in reality.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: And I recognize... that polls.
• 28:09
  Speaker 5: Are not usually accurate and they're usually pro-Democrat, left-leaning candidates.
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: And if you look at just the last, I think
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: it was 20 years or so, Republicans usually outperform the
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: polls by about 5% in November. The October polls are
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: outperformed by about 5% in November.
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: Um, that's just typical.
• 28:33
  Speaker 5: Now, the one that we're talking about here in, in
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: particular was the Trafalgar group, which is Christopher describes as.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: Dead on usually.
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: Um, and so I don't know if that's moving or
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: not moving or whatever. Uh, I don't believe the first, uh,
• 28:48
  Speaker 5: talk back feature, uh, that there is some sort of
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: coordinated effort between the Republican party to try to prop
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: up the Democrat party to keep them alive. I don't,
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: I'm not a, I am a unit party believer, swamp
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: believer when it comes to actually what's happening at the
• 29:05
  Speaker 5: national levels, uh, inside the bureaucrat, the bureaucracy, but I'm
• 29:09
  Speaker 5: not one of those people who believes that the people
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: working at the Republican party are trying to help the Democrats.
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: Christopher, do you have any thoughts on that? I, I,
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: I disagreed with him there, but I did agree with
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: the fact that he made a point that a lot
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: of Republicans are uncomfortable with the way Darlene Graham got
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: injected into this race.
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: I would say it's even more than uncomfortable. They don't
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: like it. They are angry. There is a sense of
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: anger that has been in this state since that shift happened.
• 29:40
  Speaker 5: When she went in first, it was, isn't this sweet?
• 29:44
  Speaker 5: She's going to fill a couple of months. And there's
• 29:47
  Speaker 5: really not a lot to vote on here in the
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: next couple of months. It's just, you know, you just
• 29:51
  Speaker 5: sit there and fill out the term.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: That'll be great.
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: And now it's turned into, is it a political... seat
• 29:58
  Speaker 5: that's owned by the Graham family. And then when Trump
• 30:01
  Speaker 5: injected himself into the race, well, first off, he injected
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: himself into the race by actually proclaiming, this is who
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: I want. But then at the last minute to come
• 30:10
  Speaker 5: in with the, whatever it was, $ 860, 000 on the Friday
• 30:14
  Speaker 5: before the primary and get all the calls and text messages.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: A lot of.
• 30:18
  Speaker 5: People who are MAGA are turned on Trump about that.
• 30:22
  Speaker 5: Or let's just say they're angry with Trump. I'm not
• 30:24
  Speaker 5: saying that they're not MAGA people anymore. I think most
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: MAGA people, by the way, are not. They are Trump people,
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: but Trump is not the center focus of MAGA. Make
• 30:34
  Speaker 5: America Great Again is a term that is an umbrella
• 30:38
  Speaker 5: statement that is basically America first, strong borders, mostly conservative policies,
• 30:46
  Speaker 5: although I would note that it's not exclusive to conservative policies.
• 30:51
  Speaker 5: A lot of what we'd call populist policies fall in
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: there as well.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: So she's got an uphill battle here. I mean, but
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: on the positive side, there still is a.
• 31:05
  Speaker 5: Lot of South Carolina voters who are just going to
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: vote straight ticket. That will help. They just push the
• 31:13
  Speaker 5: lever and say, this is all I want is Republicans.
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: I don't know anything about the race. Don't care about
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: the race. I just know I don't want a Democrat.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: Okay, that's good. Um, this dividing the.
• 31:23
  Speaker 5: Ticket to go to, um, you know, the libertarian candidate
• 31:27
  Speaker 5: or the constitutional candidate, I don't want to say you're
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: wasting your vote, but I don't think you're, you're not
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: going to make a message. You're not, you know, even if,
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: even if one of those, the, one of the other
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: candidates was to get 10%, it's not enough to move
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: the needle. It's enough to lose the race, but it's
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: not enough to move the needle.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: Um, Ross Perot tried it.
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: That was the closest anybody came, and it cost H.W.
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: Bush the presidency. That's how you got Bill Clinton was
• 31:57
  Speaker 5: Ross Perot. People wanted to send a message.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: Here we are.
• 32:00
  Speaker 5: I mean, that was 1992. Here we are since 1992.
• 32:05
  Speaker 5: No message has been received by the American populace. They're
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: still voting Republican and Democrat en masse. So you figure
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: out who you're going for in the primary, and then
• 32:15
  Speaker 5: you either align with your team or you sit it
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: out or you try to send a third-party message. But
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: no messages are being received, I can tell you that.
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: I don't know what else to do about the Graham campaign.
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: The head-scratching part of that article that you pointed out,
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: the National Republican Senate Committee, her Senate Republican.
• 32:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: That's chaired by Tim Scott. That's, I mean, Tim Scott
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: was one of the ones, the primary people pushing Darlene Graham.
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: Why wouldn't they have at least commented on that story
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: and said, we've got a blitz coming. You're not going
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: to believe we're going to show you just how great
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: Darlene Graham is for South Carolina and for the U
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: S Senate, something to that effect, instead of just sitting
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: on your hands and saying, we decline comment.
• 32:58
  Speaker 5: I would say that they're in a, They're in a
• 33:02
  Speaker 5: bad spot right now, the National Republican Senate Committee, in
• 33:06
  Speaker 5: the sense that they raised a lot of money, but
• 33:08
  Speaker 5: they are spending a ton of dough in places they
• 33:11
  Speaker 5: never should have to be spending. The Texas race is
• 33:14
  Speaker 5: out of control. Why do we have to defend Texas
• 33:19
  Speaker 5: so vigorously? It's because of Trump. Unfortunately, I hate to
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: say that, but that's what happened. So now you're spending
• 33:25
  Speaker 5: tens of millions of dollars in a race that you
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: never normally would have. Tim Scott has— I don't want to
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: say Tim Scott— this let's just say what the national
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: republican senate committee has given up on north carolina and
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: georgia they're not they're not competing there anymore they're they're
• 33:42
  Speaker 5: withdrawing their buys so john ossoff is going to win
• 33:45
  Speaker 5: by default down in uh um georgia and then you're
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: going to have the former governor cooper up there and
• 33:51
  Speaker 5: north carolina will be your next senator because we're not
• 33:53
  Speaker 5: going to back the republicans anymore because we're so busy
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: trying to hang on to Texas and trying to hang
• 33:59
  Speaker 5: on in other states. Are we going to be able
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: to hang on in Maine? Are we going to, so
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: they hadn't figured that it was going to be this difficult.
• 34:07
  Speaker 5: My guess, they don't have a budget for Darlene right now.
• 34:10
  Speaker 5: So they're going to have to figure something out. We,
• 34:13
  Speaker 5: cause you can't lose South Carolina. You can't, but you
• 34:16
  Speaker 5: can't lose Texas either. You could lose Maine, but you
• 34:20
  Speaker 5: can't lose Texas and you can't lose South Carolina. This
• 34:22
  Speaker 5: is unfathomable that they were in this position. All right,
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: we'll take a break. More thoughts, let us know on
• 34:27
  Speaker 5: the Talkback feature. It is 7-12.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: Live from the state capitol, this is South Carolina's Morning News.
• 34:34
  Speaker 5: And we're talking about the local Senate race, but, you know,
• 34:38
  Speaker 5: you just look at the bigger picture of America. A
• 34:40
  Speaker 5: lot of Americans are frustrated with Donald Trump saying that
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: the promises have not been kept, that the cost of
• 34:48
  Speaker 5: living is not going down. I'm looking at a screenshot
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: that was taken in June of 2024. This is an
• 34:58
  Speaker 5: unbelievable statistic. Inflation under Joe Biden from January 2021 to
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: May of 2024. So the cumulative cost. Home prices went
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: up 35.3%. A lot of Americans think that's a great
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: thing because that's where they basically they look at that
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: as their retirement fund or whatever.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: If my home value continues to rise, that's great.
• 35:21
  Speaker 5: Of course, it makes it harder for everybody else to
• 35:23
  Speaker 5: try to get into the home deal. Mortgage rates up
• 35:28
  Speaker 5: 148 percent. That makes it even harder. Gas prices in
• 35:34
  Speaker 5: three years went up 46 percent under Joe Biden. Food prices,
• 35:38
  Speaker 5: 21 and a half percent. overall inflation from January of
• 35:43
  Speaker 5: 2021 to May of 2024 is 20.1%. We're currently at
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: about 3.5%.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: And so Trump said he was going to make it
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: more affordable.
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: Again, I think that some people may have misinterpreted what
• 35:59
  Speaker 5: that meant that somehow prices were going to go down.
• 36:01
  Speaker 5: I'm not, I'm not familiar with any time in history,
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: really when prices overall went down, but the rate of
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: inflation has been dramatically cut. And again, not to the
• 36:12
  Speaker 5: rate that the Fed would be happy with. That's why
• 36:14
  Speaker 5: they're still considering having another rate hike this month to
• 36:17
  Speaker 5: try to cool it off a little bit more. But
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: it's an infinitely different world right now than what it
• 36:25
  Speaker 5: would have been under Kamala Harris, who famously said.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: I can't think of anything I'd change.
• 36:31
  Speaker 5: When asked what difference between you and Joe Biden, no,
• 36:33
  Speaker 5: pretty much shoulder to shoulder. And by the way, that's
• 36:38
  Speaker 5: true of pretty much every Democrat. So when you say
• 36:41
  Speaker 5: We're going to give the Democrats a try. You gave
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: them a try. That's what you had. That's what you
• 36:47
  Speaker 5: had in four years.
• 36:48
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 36:49
  Speaker 5: And so and when they talk about job creation, remember
• 36:53
  Speaker 5: that job creation came out of the America literally being
• 36:57
  Speaker 5: shut down. So 97 percent of those jobs were just
• 37:02
  Speaker 5: really the jobs that we already had coming back. Joe
• 37:05
  Speaker 5: Biden and the Democrats are complete failures at this. And
• 37:10
  Speaker 5: I would argue by design, they don't want America to
• 37:14
  Speaker 5: be successful. They want us to be in pain so
• 37:17
  Speaker 5: that they can grab more power. That is, to me,
• 37:21
  Speaker 5: it's as plain as the nose on my face. But
• 37:23
  Speaker 5: for other people, they continue to believe, no, they have
• 37:25
  Speaker 5: good hearts. They just have different ways of approaching things.
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: The good news is, and I've seen some polling data,
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: in fact, I saw it yesterday, that shows that although
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: Americans are not happy with Trump with gas prices, they're
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: not happy with Trump with the war in Iran. They
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: realize they are better off than they were four years
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: ago or even three years ago. They realize that while
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: Democrats might have some good ideas that they may even respect,
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: they don't want Democrats to control the economy. They don't
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: trust Democrats because of the primary issue. They don't want
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: to pay more in taxes. and they realize everything the
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: Democrats are suggesting comes with a higher cost.
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: I hope that's true.
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: I hope that that is accurate polling, that the vast
• 38:11
  Speaker 5: majority of Americans understand that when the Democrats are making promises,
• 38:16
  Speaker 5: that they are writing checks with your checkbook.
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: They're not writing checks out of their own pockets.
• 38:22
  Speaker 5: It's your pockets, that everything has to get more expensive
• 38:26
  Speaker 5: in order to fund all this stuff that they're talking about.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: So, Uh, anyway, we'll take a break.
• 38:31
  Speaker 5: If you have thoughts on that or other stuff, hit
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: us up on the talk back feature on the I
• 38:34
  Speaker 5: heart radio app.
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: It's seven 21.
• 38:35
  Speaker 7: This is South Carolina's morning news.
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: We were talking about the Darlene Graham, Annie Andrews race.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: And we got a bunch of talk backs on that.
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: And thank you.
• 38:45
  Speaker 5: Now I've got a bunch of social media people hitting
• 38:47
  Speaker 5: me up. And a lot of them are going with
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: the hashtag right in Ralph. And they want to bring
• 38:51
  Speaker 5: to my attention that Strom Thurman won as a write-in candidate.
• 38:56
  Speaker 5: There is a humongous difference between, Between Ralph Norman and
• 39:00
  Speaker 5: Strom Thurmond at this point, Strom Thurmond was overwhelmingly popular
• 39:05
  Speaker 5: in South Carolina back in 1950s. You know, he and
• 39:11
  Speaker 5: he was outraged at the strong arm tactics of the
• 39:15
  Speaker 5: Democrat Party at that time regarding how they picked candidates.
• 39:19
  Speaker 5: So he decided that he was going to run as
• 39:23
  Speaker 5: a write in candidate, but promised if elected, I will
• 39:26
  Speaker 5: caucus with the Democrats.
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: That's what he said.
• 39:30
  Speaker 5: And then because he was so popular, he got 63
• 39:33
  Speaker 5: percent of the vote as a write in candidate. Ralph
• 39:36
  Speaker 5: Norman just ran for governor and lost in the primary.
• 39:40
  Speaker 5: He then ran for the Senate and lost in the primary.
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: He is not anywhere near the popular levels of Strom Thurmond.
• 39:48
  Speaker 5: There is no conceivable way that a man who is just,
• 39:52
  Speaker 5: and I love Ralph Norman. That was my guy in
• 39:55
  Speaker 5: the Senate race. But there's no way he can, if
• 40:00
  Speaker 5: you can't win the primary, you can't win the dang
• 40:03
  Speaker 5: general election. As I write it, are you people crazy?
• 40:08
  Speaker 5: I don't know what's going on out here. Christopher, we
• 40:10
  Speaker 5: got some crazy people. We're going to have to take
• 40:12
  Speaker 5: a break, baby. You got some talkbacks. We'd love to
• 40:14
  Speaker 5: put these people on the air and let your voice
• 40:16
  Speaker 5: be heard. Use the microphone on the talkback feature. It
• 40:19
  Speaker 5: is seven 28.
• 40:20
  Speaker 7: You're listening to South Carolina's morning news. Hi there.
• 40:25
  Speaker 5: This is Kelly Nash, Christopher Thompson together again, as we
• 40:30
  Speaker 5: look over some of the news of the day and, uh,
• 40:34
  Speaker 5: Alex Murdoch, the defense demands the cover-up file. There's so
• 40:41
  Speaker 5: much happening right now with just legal cases that I
• 40:45
  Speaker 5: feel like Netflix is going to be nonstop coming up
• 40:49
  Speaker 5: pretty soon with all these types of things.
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: And a podcast or two coming again to your area.
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
• 40:55
  Speaker 5: I mean, it's interesting that we were still able to
• 40:57
  Speaker 5: get the national headlines with all the craziness that's going on.
• 41:00
  Speaker 5: The lady in Tennessee yesterday, that story is so. And
• 41:04
  Speaker 5: I guess what they think happened with the lady in
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: Tennessee was that they weren't able to get it into
• 41:10
  Speaker 5: a vein and they actually injected it into her muscles.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: And that's why she didn't die.
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: And that's why she said she was feeling a burning
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: sensation at one point.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: And then asked, is this normal?
• 41:20
  Speaker 5: By the way, why would we— I' m not in Tennessee. She
• 41:25
  Speaker 5: requested an all-female executioner team, and they fulfilled that request.
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: Why?
• 41:33
  Speaker 10: I'm still baffled as to what— if the goal, if the
• 41:38
  Speaker 10: will of the people was to execute her, and then
• 41:44
  Speaker 10: she would have died— It would have been a lot longer,
• 41:50
  Speaker 10: but she was going to die.
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: But then they rushed her to the hospital to save
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: her life.
• 41:55
  Speaker 7: Why?
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, go figure. And and now that they've halted executions
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: for the foreseeable future until they figure out what went wrong.
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: A lot of people I noticed weighed in, for example,
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: on Clay and Buck yesterday saying simply, if we've got
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: this big a fentanyl issue in America, just use fentanyl.
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: It's killing everybody else.
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: Good point.
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: Why not use it on the prisoners who have been declared,
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: who have been found guilty and given the death penalty?
• 42:23
  Speaker 5: I mean, for that lady in particular, you know, not
• 42:26
  Speaker 5: only did she do the murder when she was a
• 42:28
  Speaker 5: teenager by crushing the girl's, you know, skull with a
• 42:32
  Speaker 5: cinder block or whatever. She then takes the skull and
• 42:35
  Speaker 5: walks around with it in her pocket. Like a trophy.
• 42:38
  Speaker 5: Like a trophy. And then she gets to prison, and
• 42:42
  Speaker 5: it's not as if it stopped there. She tried to
• 42:44
  Speaker 5: kill somebody with a shoelace like 10 years ago. She's
• 42:49
  Speaker 5: a menace to society, even prison society. Even prisoners are
• 42:53
  Speaker 5: afraid of this nut job. So anyway, I don't know.
• 42:57
  Speaker 5: But here in South Carolina, we're back at it with
• 43:00
  Speaker 5: the Murdaugh trial. So they're going to have a procedural
• 43:04
  Speaker 5: hearing now on this. I think coming up, what is it,
• 43:08
  Speaker 5: a couple of days?
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: Is it this week? I mean, this coming week? Is
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: that what's going on?
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: I think so, yeah.
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, October 16th. What is that? Well, that's a little
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: bit more.
• 43:15
  Speaker 5: A couple of weeks from now, they'll have the procedural
• 43:18
  Speaker 5: trial going on for this. But the allegations are that
• 43:22
  Speaker 5: the police concealed a shotgun, semi-automatic hunting rifle, and bloody
• 43:27
  Speaker 5: clothing that were first heard during interviews conducted for the
• 43:30
  Speaker 5: nonfiction book, Swamp Kings, the story of the Murdoch family
• 43:34
  Speaker 5: of South Carolina, a century of backwoods power.
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: Oh, this reporter. Who is this reporter? Let me read this.
• 43:40
  Speaker 5: This is by Jason Ryan from the Post and Courier.
• 43:45
  Speaker 5: So get a nice little plug in there for your book, sir.
• 43:48
  Speaker 5: So apparently his book is the reason that we're going
• 43:53
  Speaker 5: down this path again with this, at least with this angle.
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it sounds like every time the defense team sees
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: something in the media that they haven't heard before, they
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: use that in order to petition the judge. Hey, we
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: should be looking at this, too. What does the prosecution
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: have on this?
• 44:10
  Speaker 5: I mean, is it ever going to end? Are we
• 44:12
  Speaker 5: are we ever going to get a conviction on Alex Murdoch?
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: The scary part in what the defense is asking for
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: now is they are including they're saying that prosecution has
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: not fully co-opt. The state is not fully cooperated with
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: the defense when it comes to discovery. And they are
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: saying that at least opens the door to a continuance.
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: So that trial that is scheduled for what, first week
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: in April?
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: They're suggesting if they don't get what they're asking for,
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: that we could see that can kick down the road
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: a bit. Now, I don't know if the judge would
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: approve that, but they're saying they don't have enough time
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: at this point to prepare because they haven't been given everything.
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: We don't have time to prepare. It's April. April. Anyway,
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: but I mean, in the meantime, it's not as if
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: Alex Murdoch is out walking the streets.
• 45:01
  Speaker 7: No.
• 45:02
  Speaker 5: He'll be, you know, at the Graybar Motel or whatever
• 45:05
  Speaker 5: you want to call it for the foreseeable future, at least.
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: Justice is being served, but not in the murders.
• 45:10
  Speaker 5: And I'm just wondering who, where does all this money
• 45:14
  Speaker 5: come to pay for his defense? I mean, I know
• 45:17
  Speaker 5: that he, he didn't have financial problems. That's why he
• 45:20
  Speaker 5: was stealing from his maid.
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: Sure. Yeah.
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: I mean, that's, I mean, a lot of people wondered
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: that the first time around. He had a 401k, I guess,
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: that he had liquidated. But otherwise, how's he paying for
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: a retrial?
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 45:35
  Speaker 5: And I don't imagine that Harpootlian lovingly called Poot. I
• 45:41
  Speaker 5: don't think Poot is doing this just out of the
• 45:44
  Speaker 5: kindness of his heart.
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: I mean, I think he got more than enough publicity
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: the first time around. He doesn't need any more. I mean,
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: he's a nationally famous guy anyway. He doesn't need the publicity.
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: He is the white Johnny Cochran.
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: Yes, he is.
• 45:58
  Speaker 5: All right, if you've got thoughts on Alex Murdaugh or
• 46:00
  Speaker 5: the craziness out there in Tennessee yesterday, hit us up
• 46:03
  Speaker 5: on the Talk Back feature.
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: We'll get to some more of your Talk Backs coming
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: up in a minute. It is 739. Your news, traffic, weather,
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: and information stations.
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: This is South Carolina's Morning News on 103.5 FM, 560
• 46:17
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• 46:22
  Speaker 5: With Kelly Nash and Christopher Thompson, and earlier in the show...
• 46:26
  Speaker 5: kind of displaying a little bit of frustration with the
• 46:28
  Speaker 5: Trump campaign. And I call it a campaign, even though
• 46:31
  Speaker 5: he himself is not on the ballot.
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: He has said, I want you.
• 46:34
  Speaker 5: To think about it like you're voting for me. And
• 46:37
  Speaker 5: so he is running a campaign and he is out here.
• 46:40
  Speaker 5: He's campaigning. He's down in Texas. He got J.D. Vance
• 46:43
  Speaker 5: in Florida yesterday. They're out there crisscrossing the country. They're
• 46:46
  Speaker 5: trying to generate votes. For House seats, Senate seats, even
• 46:51
  Speaker 5: some governor races. They're just they're trying to help the
• 46:54
  Speaker 5: Republican Party.
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: Now, with that in mind, and I'll just go with this.
• 46:59
  Speaker 5: As a Marquette poll, Marquette poll, number one issue for
• 47:04
  Speaker 5: Americans in this upcoming election, inflation, cost of living.
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: And it's by a lot.
• 47:10
  Speaker 5: I mean, I think this is for every 100 people
• 47:13
  Speaker 5: who took the survey, 43 said that was number one.
• 47:16
  Speaker 5: Number two, this is a big win for Trump, you
• 47:18
  Speaker 5: would think. Illegal immigration, border security. They could really push that.
• 47:23
  Speaker 5: But again, not even close to inflation cost of living.
• 47:25
  Speaker 5: Number three is health insurance costs. That is something that
• 47:29
  Speaker 5: Trump should be talking about. Jobs in the economy come
• 47:32
  Speaker 5: in at four with only seven, six is property taxes.
• 47:36
  Speaker 5: Way all the way down with just 1% crime in
• 47:39
  Speaker 5: your community.
• 47:40
  Speaker 8: Why?
• 47:40
  Speaker 5: Because Trump already fixed it. Trump did the deportations and
• 47:44
  Speaker 5: crime is way down, historic lows. That's usually a lot
• 47:47
  Speaker 5: higher in the polling. But if you want to win elections,
• 47:50
  Speaker 5: you've got to talk about what the people want to
• 47:53
  Speaker 5: hear you talk about, which is inflation and the cost
• 47:55
  Speaker 5: of living overwhelmingly. Instead, the Wall Street Journal yesterday comes
• 47:59
  Speaker 5: out with this story. that the Department of Justice is
• 48:02
  Speaker 5: now reviewing whether the special prosecutor's office that investigated the
• 48:07
  Speaker 5: famed Watergate break-in committed misconduct.
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: Who flipping cares?
• 48:13
  Speaker 5: Nobody cares about what happened at Watergate as you're in
• 48:16
  Speaker 5: the middle, you're 30 days from an election. And Christopher,
• 48:20
  Speaker 5: you were breaking up some great points. We're talking about helipads.
• 48:23
  Speaker 5: We're talking about Should we have an arch? And what
• 48:26
  Speaker 5: would the arch have? Would it have snipers on the arch?
• 48:29
  Speaker 5: Nobody cares about these things.
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: The Kennedy Center, et cetera.
• 48:32
  Speaker 5: Yes, take my– I want my name on the Kennedy
• 48:34
  Speaker 5: Center or it's not going to be rebuilt. None of
• 48:36
  Speaker 5: these– you're losing the brand messaging, which needs to be
• 48:39
  Speaker 5: about the American people and their concerns, and instead we're
• 48:43
  Speaker 5: getting– we're going to reopen Watergate and we're going to
• 48:46
  Speaker 5: build an arch. In the meantime, that has drawn some,
• 48:49
  Speaker 5: I guess, criticisms possibly of us.
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: Christopher, let's see what the talkback people are saying.
• 48:54
  Speaker 7: Yes, I agree.
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: Trump should be talking more about the economy. But the
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: real people that need to be dealing with is Congress.
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: They've been up there. Some of them have been up
• 49:05
  Speaker 4: there 20 years or more. And look where we're at.
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: We're no better off than we were probably, in some cases,
• 49:12
  Speaker 4: 20 years off. We've still got debt. A lot of
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: the issues have never been fixed. So there the problem.
• 49:21
  Speaker 5: You know who that guy reminded me of a young
• 49:25
  Speaker 5: louisiana john kennedy not jfk but just his speech pattern
• 49:31
  Speaker 5: kind of kind of had that slow deliberate i was
• 49:34
  Speaker 5: waiting for him to come out with something you know
• 49:36
  Speaker 5: i've heard of stupid and then just kind of riff
• 49:39
  Speaker 5: off that. But look, a lot of people would say
• 49:41
  Speaker 5: you're absolutely right, that the purse strings are controlled by Congress.
• 49:47
  Speaker 5: Poll after poll after poll shows that nobody blames their congressman.
• 49:52
  Speaker 5: It's the other guy's congressman.
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: It's generic Congress.
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 49:56
  Speaker 5: Congress polls like crap, but your congressperson, whoever he or
• 50:01
  Speaker 5: she may be, they're doing right on.
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: So that's just the way it goes.
• 50:06
  Speaker 5: And again, If you are a congressperson running for re-election
• 50:11
  Speaker 5: right now, I'm sure they're talking about the economy and
• 50:14
  Speaker 5: not we need to reopen Watergate. That's not their messaging
• 50:18
  Speaker 5: right now. They are talking about how can we make
• 50:20
  Speaker 5: life more affordable. Unfortunately, the ones that are getting a
• 50:23
  Speaker 5: lot of traction are the ones that are talking about socialism.
• 50:26
  Speaker 5: And there needs to be a robust Republican rebuttal of socialism,
• 50:32
  Speaker 5: not just the fear campaign about socialism, but actually... demonstrating
• 50:37
  Speaker 5: how the free market, if applied, works. What's happening right
• 50:42
  Speaker 5: now is not.
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: A free market.
• 50:44
  Speaker 5: We're actively stopping free market stuff. And unfortunately, Americans, I
• 50:48
  Speaker 5: hate to say this, Americans love price controls. We saw that,
• 50:52
  Speaker 5: was it yesterday or the day before? We were talking
• 50:54
  Speaker 5: about the polling on that. They want fixed prices on
• 50:57
  Speaker 5: a lot of things. And they're very open. I was
• 51:00
  Speaker 5: listening to a lady yesterday. She wrote a book called
• 51:03
  Speaker 5: How to Eat an Elephant. I think that's the name
• 51:06
  Speaker 5: of it. And she's basically she's I don't know if
• 51:08
  Speaker 5: she really is a Republican. She says she's a Republican strategist.
• 51:12
  Speaker 5: And she was talking about how one of the things
• 51:14
  Speaker 5: that Americans are really open to right now is socialized medicine.
• 51:17
  Speaker 5: They like that idea that you don't have to pay
• 51:19
  Speaker 5: for it, that nobody gets hurt in it.
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: Unfortunately, nobody gets better in it either. That's the other problem.
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: We'll take a break. It's 749.
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: From the Midlands to the Lowcountry, this is South Carolina's
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: Morning News.
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: So they're still talking about that co-pilot on Fly Dubai.
• 51:36
  Speaker 5: The actual pilot is saying that when he realized that
• 51:41
  Speaker 5: he was in trouble, that he's on the floor getting attacked.
• 51:46
  Speaker 5: he said, I could feel the plane going down and
• 51:48
  Speaker 5: I knew I had to open that door. That's, that
• 51:51
  Speaker 5: was his whole thing. He was just talking to the
• 51:52
  Speaker 5: Indian prime minister about that, uh, that moment. Um, the
• 51:57
  Speaker 5: actual co-pilot with, they still have not named this guy,
• 52:01
  Speaker 5: but according to the pilot and several people who came
• 52:04
  Speaker 5: in and kind of held that guy down, he was screaming,
• 52:07
  Speaker 5: kill me, kill me now. So he was very suicidal. Um,
• 52:13
  Speaker 5: We're going to continue to say that we don't know
• 52:15
  Speaker 5: what the cause was. The co-pilot's motive remains unknown at
• 52:20
  Speaker 5: this point.
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: I could take a guess.
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: Don't speculate.
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: Sorry.
• 52:24
  Speaker 11: Sorry.
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: All right. Or was it just a big conspiracy?
• 52:29
  Speaker 5: That's what we were hearing yesterday. We'll take a break,
• 52:32
  Speaker 5: be back with more. If you have a conspiracy theory
• 52:34
  Speaker 5: regarding this or anything else, use the Talkback feature.
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: It is 755.
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: This is South Carolina's morning news on 103.5 FM and
• 52:42
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• 52:49
  Speaker 5: I think we can all agree, whatever happened at Cornell,
• 52:54
  Speaker 5: that was horrible. Whatever it was. At any level, this
• 52:58
  Speaker 5: is not a good thing, what has happened. But why
• 53:03
  Speaker 5: does AOC have to make things up? AOC yesterday, quote,
• 53:08
  Speaker 5: seven men drugged and gang raped a 20-year-old woman. They
• 53:13
  Speaker 5: lured her into the fraternity house. Then they immediately drugged
• 53:16
  Speaker 5: her with ketamine. And then they went on and seven
• 53:21
  Speaker 5: men took turns gang raping her for seven hours. That's
• 53:24
  Speaker 5: not even the allegations. Why would she do that?
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: Trying to make headlines.
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 53:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 53:31
  Speaker 7: Exactly.
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: I mean, if we know anything about that story so far,
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: we at least know this. She wasn't lured.
• 53:37
  Speaker 7: No.
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: She wanted to go to that party. She wanted to attend.
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: I mean, we at least have her emails saying that
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: or her text messages.
• 53:46
  Speaker 5: I was going to say CBS News put out her
• 53:48
  Speaker 5: text messages. 8.30, she went with the house mother in
• 53:51
  Speaker 5: an Uber to a bar downtown Ithaca. had, by her
• 53:56
  Speaker 5: own description, plenty of alcohol. Then at 11 o'clock, she
• 54:01
  Speaker 5: went by herself to meet a friend at the fraternity house. There,
• 54:05
  Speaker 5: she said, quote, this is her, apparently, what she's telling people,
• 54:09
  Speaker 5: she had consensual sexual encounters with two men that she knew,
• 54:14
  Speaker 5: and quote, yeah, I was okay with that. So that's
• 54:18
  Speaker 5: how the night is going at this point. Now, What
• 54:22
  Speaker 5: her claim, this is where she says things got rapey.
• 54:27
  Speaker 5: She says that I was started into feeling pressure to
• 54:31
  Speaker 5: take some drugs. And as I forget how she worded it,
• 54:36
  Speaker 5: but she said something along the lines of here it is.
• 54:38
  Speaker 5: I became extremely uncomfortable how this night was turning out.
• 54:40
  Speaker 5: So my thought was if I do some ketamine, I
• 54:43
  Speaker 5: can pass out and forget about it. They're going to
• 54:46
  Speaker 5: have sex with me either way. that was what she
• 54:49
  Speaker 5: told people in the text messages. And apparently what she's claiming,
• 54:54
  Speaker 5: she told the district attorney up there. Now that guy's
• 54:56
  Speaker 5: been replaced by big Tish, big Tish got the call
• 55:00
  Speaker 5: out of the bullpen yesterday.
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: So Kathy wanted it.
• 55:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 55:04
  Speaker 5: Kathy Hochul has assigned Letitia to take over this thing.
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: But it, any, I.
• 55:12
  Speaker 5: Mean, we're, you know, I sound like I'm on that
• 55:16
  Speaker 5: moral high ground, but it's, pretty shocking behavior to me
• 55:22
  Speaker 5: that any woman would be okay with going to a
• 55:28
  Speaker 5: fraternity house in order to have relations with two men.
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: That, that to me is unbelievable.
• 55:35
  Speaker 5: Now, maybe to you, it's not, maybe you guys are
• 55:36
  Speaker 5: a little more broad-minded than I am. Um, it's hard
• 55:39
  Speaker 5: for me to make a distinction though. Once you start
• 55:42
  Speaker 5: down that path, what is going too far? She said
• 55:45
  Speaker 5: she felt uncomfortable when more guys entered the room. And,
• 55:48
  Speaker 5: of course, we've now seen the group Snapchat where one
• 55:52
  Speaker 5: guy said something along the lines of, there's a girl
• 55:56
  Speaker 5: willing to do it with everybody. And another guy responded,
• 56:00
  Speaker 5: is the shop still open? Which is disgusting. I mean,
• 56:04
  Speaker 5: all of it's disgusting. But AOC doesn't need to try
• 56:07
  Speaker 5: to make it worse than it is.
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: It's already a tragic story for everyone involved. It sounds
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: like everybody's going to wind up paying here.
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: And now it's having, like, national....
• 56:19
  Speaker 5: Protests are breaking out on college campuses all over the
• 56:22
  Speaker 5: place saying that women are being assaulted on virtually every
• 56:28
  Speaker 5: college campus. And it's been going unnoticed or under investigated.
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: We'll say that.
• 56:34
  Speaker 5: And then you got like, I guess Pelosi was supposed
• 56:36
  Speaker 5: to be at Cornell either yesterday or today, and she
• 56:38
  Speaker 5: had to cancel that appearance.
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: So it's just so many things are happening around this.
• 56:43
  Speaker 5: It's really just kind of amazing to see how it's
• 56:46
  Speaker 5: because this all happened in 2024. And here we are
• 56:50
  Speaker 5: almost three years later, and it's now all becoming a
• 56:54
  Speaker 5: national story today. So, look, I haven't been on a
• 56:58
  Speaker 5: college campus and. 40 plus years. So I don't know
• 57:02
  Speaker 5: what's going on at the college life. And I never
• 57:04
  Speaker 5: went to a fraternity or a sorority. I didn't, I never,
• 57:07
  Speaker 5: that was not my, that was not my bag baby
• 57:10
  Speaker 5: to quote Austin Powers.
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: But apparently it can get crazy.
• 57:16
  Speaker 5: According to a lot of the women right now that
• 57:18
  Speaker 5: we're seeing in the protests and they're breaking out in
• 57:20
  Speaker 5: college campuses from coast to coast.
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: We're seeing protests today.
• 57:24
  Speaker 5: And I'm sure throughout the weekend, they're talking about at Cornell,
• 57:27
  Speaker 5: they're going to have 50 different groups there. I think
• 57:30
  Speaker 5: it's October 13th. They're going to have a massive protest.
• 57:34
  Speaker 5: So this is.
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: Going to be, this story is just beginning. That's where
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: we're at right now.
• 57:39
  Speaker 5: If you guys have thoughts on that, let us know
• 57:40
  Speaker 5: about it on the Talkback feature.
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: We'll take a break. It is 8.08.
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: Live from the state capitol, this is South Carolina's Morning News.
• 57:49
  Speaker 11: Hey, good morning, guys. It's Steve from Mount Pleasant. We
• 57:53
  Speaker 11: live in profoundly unserious times when an Islamic radical.
• 57:59
  Speaker 11: It tries to steer a plane into the ground, killing
• 58:04
  Speaker 11: 800 or more people. And we are commanded by our
• 58:11
  Speaker 11: political leaders not to speculate on his motives.
• 58:16
  Speaker 5: I don't know that our political— well, our political leader is
• 58:20
  Speaker 5: Donald Trump. I think we can— you can say not my president,
• 58:24
  Speaker 5: but he's still your president. And Trump is— I don't
• 58:28
  Speaker 5: want to say speculating. What Donald Trump said yesterday is
• 58:32
  Speaker 5: that they are, quote, I'm just going to read this
• 58:35
  Speaker 5: to you right here, asked whether or not he's been briefed.
• 58:38
  Speaker 5: He said, we're working on it right now. I would
• 58:40
  Speaker 5: say the answer, based on what I'm hearing, is yes,
• 58:43
  Speaker 5: but we're working on it right now. He would not
• 58:45
  Speaker 5: elaborate if the suspect is aligned with Iran. But he
• 58:50
  Speaker 5: thinks that the suspect is aligned with Iran.
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: And I don't know, maybe he missed it. He stated
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: the number. He said 800.
• 58:58
  Speaker 5: There's 180 people on the plane. I don't know if
• 59:01
  Speaker 5: maybe he was factoring in how many people might have
• 59:04
  Speaker 5: died if it hit buildings or something like that.
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: But yes, it was 180 people on the fly Dubai plane. plane.
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: The pilot was stabbed by the co-pilot.
• 59:15
  Speaker 5: And as he was on the ground being assaulted, he
• 59:20
  Speaker 5: was able to open the door to let the other
• 59:23
  Speaker 5: people get in. The plane at that point was already
• 59:27
  Speaker 5: in a free fall.
• 59:28
  Speaker 3: Pointed directly toward the ground.
• 59:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, the co-pilot, I guess, stabbed this guy and then
• 59:33
  Speaker 5: pushed the plane like to nosedive and had already fallen
• 59:36
  Speaker 5: like 10,000 feet or something. And so obviously everybody's aware
• 59:40
  Speaker 5: that we have a problem in the cockpit. And so
• 59:42
  Speaker 5: there's many people who came in. Now, the guy who
• 59:45
  Speaker 5: was actually being deemed as a hero in addition to
• 59:48
  Speaker 5: the actual pilot is like a plumber. And he said
• 59:51
  Speaker 5: he'd been watching some sort of television show about how
• 59:54
  Speaker 5: air disasters happen. So he knew how to fly the plane,
• 59:57
  Speaker 5: at least enough to end the nose diving. And there
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 5: were a couple of pilots that were, what do they
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 5: call it, deadheading? I think is what the phrase is
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 5: used in air travel when a pilot has to be
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 5: flown back home, but he's not flying.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: He's just resting.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 5: There were several of them, so they were able to
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 5: take over and land the plane. Although there was some
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 5: weirdness involved. involved where I'm trying to remember which countries
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 5: denied them the ability to land, which was kind of
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 5: weird that, you know, we're saying, hey, we got a
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 5: May Day situation up here. We just had a terrorist
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 5: attack or what we believe to be a terrorist attack.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: And they're like, well, you can't land here. Figure it out.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: Go somewhere else.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 3: I've seen reports that suggested he wouldn't have been, he
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: shouldn't have been allowed to land in Israel anyway. that
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 3: he didn't have the correct passport to land in Israel.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: So many are wondering, all right, how did this copilot
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: get into the seat in the first place? And you
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 3: see reports from people who worked with him at the
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 3: airlines saying that, you know, he appeared to be radicalized,
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 3: that he refused to shake women's hands and he was
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 3: uncomfortable around women. And he was, you know, praying at
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: odd times when they were trying to work, et cetera.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 5: So apparently a lot of red flags that were ignored
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 5: by the powers that be. He is currently, I think
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 5: they just said that they were transferring him to the UAE.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 5: He was in another Gulf country, and they were transferring
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 5: him to the UAE. The Saudis, I think, are the
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 5: ones who had him currently.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: And Israel is.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 5: Going to talk to him, as is the United States.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 5: So we don't have to speculate too much on this.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 5: I mean, we're going to have answers in the next, what,
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 5: few days as to what was behind it. We all
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 5: think we know what was behind it. But, you know,
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 5: I'm not I'm not saying that anyone say don't talk.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 5: You can speculate all you want about it. We'll actually
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 5: know what really, really, really happened, hopefully here in the
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 5: next week or so.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: Should be an interesting weekend for that co-pilot.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 3: Wouldn't want to be in his shoes.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: No. That's why he was screaming, kill me, kill me.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: We'll take a break. Take more of your talkbacks off
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: the talkback feature. It is 817.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 7: This is South Carolina's Morning News.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 5: He is Christopher Thompson. I am Kelly Nash. And I'm
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 5: back on my moral high ground here. I do not
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 5: like what this. message is being sent to america or
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 5: at least to texas uh shelby lashombe age 25 of
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 5: waco had been facing decades behind bars after admitting to
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 5: having sexual relations with two boys that we don't know
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 5: their ages we just know that they were both under
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 5: the age of 17 and she'd been doing so for
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 5: a minimum of six months and knew that knew who
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 5: they were knew their ages Knew that it was a secret,
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 5: but she had been caught by a family friend making
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 5: out with one of the boys.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 3: How old is she?
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: She's 25. She was working as a high school teacher.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 3: I was going to ask.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 5: She was one of those teacher-student stories? No, they were
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 5: not students with her.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 5: The judge in the case announced that he had been
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 5: inclined to give her a more severe sentence. but the
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 5: sentence that she got is described as a sweetheart deal.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 5: And I think that's even an understatement you've admitted to.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 5: I don't know how, if you're not old enough to consent,
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 5: that is rape.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: She got a $ 1, 000 fine.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 5: She'll have to spend four weekends in jail and 60
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 5: days working on the County chain gang for eight.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: Hours a day.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 5: Uh, This is because one of the boy's fathers came
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 5: to the courtroom and said that, you know, yes, my
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 5: kid is getting counseling, but I'll be honest with you,
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 5: he's doing pretty well, actually. He's excelling academically. He's playing
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 5: well this year on his school football team. Yeah, I
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 5: think he's thriving. Now, the mother said he's not. The
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 5: mother said he doesn't want to go to the junior prom.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 5: The mother says he's facing lots of depression and anxiety.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 5: The defense said that she is suffering from post-traumatic stress
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 5: disorder after having spent eight hours in jail. So we're
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 5: supposed to have sympathy for her.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 3: But dad says not for one of the boys.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 5: He said, my boy's doing great. My boy was into it.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 5: I'm not saying your boy wasn't. I'm not saying that
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 5: a 15-year-old kid is not going to get excited about
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 5: a 25-year-old woman who's interested in him.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 4: Sure.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 5: But the message that we're sending about society is perversion.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: She is a pervert.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 5: And by the way, according to one of the boys,
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 5: they contacted her on social media because they had heard
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 5: she was into.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: So there might be other guys. They had heard that
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: she was into young guys. So this is a.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 5: I don't want to say predatory because she didn't reach
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 5: out to them. They reached out to her and she
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 5: was just open to the idea. But this is sending
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 5: a message that it's okay to be a pervert in America,
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 5: that it's okay in Texas. If you want to have
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 5: a perverted lifestyle... and go and have relations with 13.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: 14, 15-year-olds.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 5: We're cool with that as long as their dad says, eh,
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 5: he's doing all right. What if he wasn't doing all right?
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 5: To me, it's what's behind it. It's not how does
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 5: the victim deal with it. Like if you rob me
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 5: and I'm like, you know what?
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: I got other money. I'll get over it. Then no crime,
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: no foul? Is that what you're saying?
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 5: This is a ridiculous ruling out of Waco, Texas, Christopher.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 3: So if she had been in a position of power,
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 3: for example, one of their teachers, I hope it would
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 3: have been a different story.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: Well, the school did fire her. That's the good news.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 5: She's now working at a furniture manufacturing plant down there.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 4: But.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Valley Mills High School is where she was. And yeah,
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 5: I guess if she had had some sort of authority
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 5: over them. But she admits to having relations with both
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 5: the boys for about six months.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 3: And what if it had been a guy teacher and
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 3: two 15-year-old girls?
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 5: Or what if the boys... Boy became suicidal. Then does
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 5: she get the full sentence? It doesn't matter to me
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 5: how the victim responds to being victimized. What matters to
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 5: me is that somebody was victimizing him. He might not even,
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 5: this might be one of those things he doesn't even
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 5: realize until he's like 28, 29 years old. And then
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 5: he needs real more therapy. This is, I hate this.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 5: I absolutely hate this. I wish that they would, you
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 5: can't appeal the sentence now though. She'll be doing her
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 5: four weekends in jail and paying a thousand dollar fine.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: And that'll be it.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 3: And working on the chain.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she got 60 hours.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 5: Break that out. So she'll knock that out in a
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 5: couple of weeks. And then back to the furniture manufacturing plant.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 5: And then, you know, back to some high school keggers.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: All right. It's 827.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: You're listening to South Carolina's Morning News.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: Kelly Nash with Christopher Thompson.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 5: We were talking about the story out of Waco, Texas,
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 5: where the 25-year-old teacher got the sweetheart deal of, what
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 5: is it, $ 1, 000.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: Something like a thousand dollar fine.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 5: Uh, was it like four weekends in jail and 60
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 5: hours of community service on a chain gang and, uh,
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 5: response to pleading guilty to having relations with two 15
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 5: year old boys. Um, and it was because according to
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 5: the judge that one of the boy's fathers said he's
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 5: doing great. Actually, he's really not no trauma at all.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 5: My friend, John texted me and says, I'm missing the
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 5: point that it's the, the boys, it wasn't.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: Their first time. And that that's, And I say that doesn't,
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: shouldn't be any factor.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 5: And he points out that, you know, kids are having
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 5: relations much younger these days. And it's not even these
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 5: days as this story here, Christopher, this is, this story
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 5: is crazy out of St.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: Louis, Missouri.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 5: Some guy who knew he was adopted went on, was
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 5: it 23andMe and put in his DNA, finds a half brother, right?
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 5: Him and the half brother track down who they, now
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 5: this is the, this is the part where he's like,
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 5: wait a minute.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: What happened?
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 5: So I was raised by two great people, but I
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 5: definitely wanted to know who my parents were. Within 36 hours,
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 5: my half-brother got an email notifying me that, yes, I'm
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 5: your half-brother in St.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: Louis.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 5: That's how it all began. He met his birth mother
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 5: in person on his 58th birthday and connected with his
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 5: biological father on the phone. Now, he doesn't know who
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 5: his father is. He's talking to a guy who has
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 5: the same name as him, which is Michael. And the
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 5: father says, well, you know, we could probably meet. I'm
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 5: going to be on a tour coming through St.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 3: Louis.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 5: And he says, hold up. Are you Michael McDonald? And
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 5: he said, yeah, I'm afraid so.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: Michael McDonald. when he was 14, got a 14-year-old girl pregnant.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 3: Oh, I didn't realize that was their age.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 4: Wow. Yeah.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 5: And they chose to not have an abortion. They chose
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 5: to have a child, but they knew that they couldn't
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 5: raise them because we're like freshmen in high school. So
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 5: they gave up This young man. And he said it's
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 5: been one of those things. Michael McDonald says this is
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 5: somebody who I've thought about often. What kind of a
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 5: life does he have? And then actually befriended the parents,
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 5: I think, in the long run. And so I think
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 5: he had like kind of a distant eye on the boy.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 5: And now they got the two of them hugging. And
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 5: I mean, it's a fantastic story. It's one of those
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 5: bizarre stories, though. Michael McDonald's your dad?
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, what a fool believes.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 3: I just happen to be a big fan of the
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 3: Doobie Brothers, and here he is. He's my dad.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 5: Yes, and you know, the funny thing is, in the
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  Speaker 5: news story, when you look at the guy, you can
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  Speaker 5: see where he looks a lot like Michael McDonald.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's definitely a resemblance. I didn't realize Michael McDonald
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  Speaker 3: was 14 and the girl was 14.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't read that far into the story.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and this guy's like 60 now, so it was
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  Speaker 5: a long time ago.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: And so, again, to the earlier story, I'm not surprised
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  Speaker 5: that 14, 15 year olds are having relations. I wouldn't
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  Speaker 5: encourage it, but I would also continue to outlaw it
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  Speaker 5: with an adult. If the 14 year olds are doing
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  Speaker 5: what they're doing with each other, that's wrong, but it's
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  Speaker 5: not criminal. When you have a 25 year old, a
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  Speaker 5: 30 year old, a 40 year old having relations with
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  Speaker 5: young teenagers, that's a big problem In my estimation, maybe
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  Speaker 5: people feel differently. Maybe, you know, you can let us
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  Speaker 5: know on the Talkback feature, Christopher. We'll be taking those
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  Speaker 5: We'll take a break now.
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  Speaker 2: It's 836.
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  Speaker 1: As an example of what happens when you throw.
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  Speaker 12: God out of public life is an example of the
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  Speaker 12: failure of situational morality. If your morality is based on nothing,
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  Speaker 12: then you don't have any morality. Anything goes.
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  Speaker 4: We need to put God back.
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  Speaker 12: Into our public life, back into public schools, back into
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  Speaker 12: the homes and families.
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  Speaker 8: All right.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you for the talk back. I'm not sure where
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  Speaker 2: he was calling in from.
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  Speaker 5: But his point being that America is becoming more secular.
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  Speaker 5: The West is obviously a very secular place and we
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  Speaker 5: are reaping what we're sowing. And whether you're talking about
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  Speaker 5: what's happening up at Cornell University or what we were
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  Speaker 5: just talking about down in Waco, Texas, or you can
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  Speaker 5: point to a myriad of problems. You know, Christopher, I
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  Speaker 5: was just talking to— I did a podcast yesterday. You can
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  Speaker 5: find this on the iHeartRadio app. It's called The National Briefing.
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  Speaker 5: And I interviewed a man who was born in Iran,
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  Speaker 5: but his family was like head of security for the
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  Speaker 5: Shah of Iran. Very prominent family in Iran back in
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  Speaker 5: the 60s and 70s, but they obviously had to.
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  Speaker 2: Flee once the Shah was being overthrown.
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  Speaker 3: Yep.
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  Speaker 5: And so he got here, I think, to America when
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  Speaker 5: he was 17. He started off as a dishwasher in Chicago.
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  Speaker 5: And he's now, he is a, when I say wealthy,
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  Speaker 5: I mean, this guy is ridiculously rich and totally MAGA.
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  Speaker 5: And he was basically giving me some back and forth
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  Speaker 5: on my theories regarding Iran. But one of the things
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  Speaker 5: that he pointed out, which is a little bit of
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  Speaker 5: a hyperbolic, is the fact that the first Bill of Rights,
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  Speaker 5: it's not the first Bill of Rights, but a guy
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  Speaker 5: named Cyrus the Great, in Iran back in 539 BCE,
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  Speaker 5: came up with what some call the Cyrus Cylinder. There's
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  Speaker 5: other names for it, but it was discovered in 1879
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  Speaker 5: that he.
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  Speaker 2: Had wrote this.
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  Speaker 5: And what is in there is some of the things
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  Speaker 5: that we would look at and go, that sounds like
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  Speaker 5: a Bill of Rights.
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  Speaker 2: Again, it's not a constitution.
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  Speaker 5: It's not anything other than a decree from the emperor
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  Speaker 5: running the entire empire. And again, the Persian Empire was massive.
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  Speaker 5: Iran was just a small part of it at that time.
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  Speaker 2: But it did call.
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  Speaker 5: He said, it is important that we restore all the
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  Speaker 5: temples and places of worship in any country or village
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  Speaker 5: that we have destroyed. And we will pay for that
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  Speaker 5: because it's important for the people to have some sort
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  Speaker 5: of relationship with God.
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  Speaker 3: And this was back in 600s?
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  Speaker 2: 539 BCE.
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  Speaker 4: Wow.
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  Speaker 8: Wow.
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  Speaker 5: And now what was, I mean, I looked it up.
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  Speaker 5: What was Cyrus the Great? Like, what was his religion?
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  Speaker 5: Nobody knows. They say he was a traditional, probably a
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  Speaker 5: traditional Iranian polytheism, possibly something called Zoroastrianism, which is a
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  Speaker 5: personal faith. But who knows what he was? Couldn't have
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  Speaker 5: been a Christian because Jesus wasn't here yet. But he recognizes,
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  Speaker 5: and I think governments traditionally recognize that what that Calder's
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  Speaker 5: point was, is if the people feel like they need
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  Speaker 5: to follow some sort of moral order that's higher than humankind,
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  Speaker 5: then you can control the people in a way that
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  Speaker 5: makes society better for all the people. And you're not
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  Speaker 5: going to get everybody to buy into religion. You're not
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  Speaker 5: going to get everybody to buy into certainly your faith,
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  Speaker 5: whatever your faith may be. But people tend to behave better,
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  Speaker 5: as he said. If you keep God at the center,
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  Speaker 5: they're going to behave better. If they don't, we've got problems.
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  Speaker 3: Morality makes laws easier to enforce because people have a
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  Speaker 3: baseline on which to compare their behavior.
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  Speaker 7: Yes.
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  Speaker 5: And, you know, if you're a Christian, you recognize that
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  Speaker 5: we all fall short, right? That whatever your moral high
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  Speaker 5: ground is, as the Bible says, your best deeds are
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  Speaker 5: filthy rags. So it's not like you're trying to earn
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  Speaker 5: God's favor, but you are thankful for God's favor, and
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  Speaker 5: then you behave accordingly. But there's other traditions that people
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  Speaker 5: are trying to earn their way into heaven. Either way,
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  Speaker 5: people behave better if God is at the center of
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  Speaker 5: the as opposed to being cast out, which is what
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  Speaker 5: we're in right now. All right, we'll take a break,
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  Speaker 5: and we'll be back with a final wrap-up as we
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  Speaker 5: get ready for a big weekend of college football. Oh,
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  Speaker 5: my goodness, are the Gamecocks going to win? Clemson, big
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  Speaker 5: underdogs going into this game. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 5: You got thoughts on any of those things? Use the
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  Speaker 2: It's 846.
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  Speaker 7: All right.
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  Speaker 2: I'm looking.
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  Speaker 5: Right now, I'm looking at Clemson weather. Tomorrow night. They're
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  Speaker 5: kicking off tomorrow night, right? That's a night game versus Miami?
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 5: Warm and humid. Thunderstorms likely tomorrow night in Clemson. Could
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  Speaker 5: they have another weather delay in Clemson? Total hours of
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  Speaker 5: rain likely for Saturday in Clemson is eight hours.
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  Speaker 4: So.
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  Speaker 5: 98% chance of rain happening. Uh, probability of thunderstorms though,
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  Speaker 5: only 30%. So you might just get a little wet
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  Speaker 5: tomorrow at Clemson. Um, but you also might get the
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  Speaker 5: rain delay here. I'm looking at South Carolina's game. Uh,
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  Speaker 5: day looks awesome until about 5.
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  Speaker 2: PM. Then we go to about 60% chance of rain
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  Speaker 2: at 5.
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  Speaker 10: PM.
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  Speaker 2: We're kicking off at what? 4. 20 tomorrow.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. 4. 15, 4.
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  Speaker 8: 20.
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  Speaker 5: So I guess bring some rain slickers, uh, It doesn't
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  Speaker 5: look like I'm seeing thunderstorms in our forecast, so hopefully
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  Speaker 5: it's just rain.
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  Speaker 2: But you never can tell with these temperatures. Christopher, as
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  Speaker 2: we head.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a chance of a thunderstorm after 5.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think right now it's at like 18% is
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  Speaker 5: what they're calling for.
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  Speaker 2: So, again.
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  Speaker 5: Everything changes on the hour, it seems like, with the weather.
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  Speaker 5: So who knows what we're going to get. But right now,
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  Speaker 5: that's what it looks like. What does it look like
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  Speaker 5: for the Gamecocks, do you think? Right now, you've got
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 5: the best pregame coverage kicking off at... Is it 1
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 5: o'clock tomorrow?
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  Speaker 3: 1 o'clock tomorrow afternoon.
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  Speaker 2: And this is, I would think by most people's estimation,
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  Speaker 2: a must-win.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, for Shane Beamer, if not for the entire team,
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  Speaker 3: you've got to at least... You can't be facing an
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 3: uphill battle from the word go because... then you're afraid
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  Speaker 3: the fans are going to turn on you from the start,
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  Speaker 3: but you've got to be competitive. I mean that, that
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  Speaker 3: Florida game that's looming a week from now and then
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 3: the bi-week you can't afford to go into that game
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  Speaker 3: or that week with not only loss after loss stacked up,
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  Speaker 3: but dismal performances and fans losing interest in the product.
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  Speaker 5: And then I heard in one of your news updates,
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  Speaker 5: it might have been yesterday, are they giving the backups
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  Speaker 5: some first team reps?
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  Speaker 3: There were reports that said that Cutter Woods might see
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 3: some first team reps at practice this week. Now, whether
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  Speaker 3: that means a change in quarterback, who knows? I still
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  Speaker 3: think you've got to put Lenoir's sellers out there to
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  Speaker 3: start with, but it may be a pretty short hook
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  Speaker 3: for sellers if he struggles again.
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  Speaker 10: Yikes.
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  Speaker 2: And obviously, uh, Dylan, uh, Stewart is off right now.
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  Speaker 3: Stewart is out.
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  Speaker 2: And that is still indefinitely, right?
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  Speaker 5: I mean, he's got the one week suspension from the sec,
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  Speaker 5: but Shane Beamer says until I say otherwise.
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  Speaker 2: Correct.
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  Speaker 4: All right.
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  Speaker 3: And he's not with the team. He was with the
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  Speaker 3: team for a Sunday meeting and then not there on Monday.
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  Speaker 3: And he's not participating right now.
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  Speaker 2: It would seem as if his time is coming to
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  Speaker 2: an end.
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  Speaker 3: That's a pretty good read on it, although a lot
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  Speaker 3: of NFL scouts are saying he needs to do... He's
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 3: still going to be a big pick in the upcoming draft,
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  Speaker 3: but he needs to do something to redeem himself before
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  Speaker 3: we get to that point.
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  Speaker 2: But it probably won't be with the Gamecocks.
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  Speaker 3: May not be.
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  Speaker 5: And then Clemson, they're 16.5-point underdogs, I think, going into
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  Speaker 5: this game.
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  Speaker 3: Miami is... They are for real. And, you know, Clemson
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  Speaker 3: saw a pretty good team in week one and their
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 3: defense gave up what? Six hundred forty plus yards against LSU. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And this this the kid Mensah that's playing for Miami
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 3: is a Heisman candidate. One of the Heisman favorites now.
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  Speaker 3: And it's it's that's tough sledding, especially when your quarterback's
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 3: a freshman and still learning his role.
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  Speaker 5: I guess the Clemson fans will be okay with a loss.
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  Speaker 5: They're just hoping to be competitive.
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  Speaker 2: As you say.
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  Speaker 3: It is the fourth-ranked team in the country, yeah.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Had they not won at Cal, then, oh my gosh.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 2: It might have been a different story. Yeah, okay.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 5: All right, but they did win at Cal, and they
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 5: won actually rather handily. So Clemson seems to be trying
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 5: to right the ship. We'll see if the Gamecocks can
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 5: do the same. Again, best Gamecock coverage starts on WVOC
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  Speaker 5: for you WSC listeners. You can get that on the
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  Speaker 5: iHeartRadio app starting about 1 o'clock tomorrow.
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  Speaker 2: Otherwise, we'll talk to you Monday morning. Have a great weekend.