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- 1:11Speaker 2: Yeah, it's Chuck, it's Mike, and it's Ben with you
- 1:13Speaker 2: here today and taking a look around markets right now.
- 1:20Speaker 3: Uh here, here's the deal.
- 1:22Speaker 2: If you happen to be like a big semiconductor guy,
- 1:25Speaker 2: you continue to be very happy because semis are just
- 1:28Speaker 2: chug chug chugging along.
- 1:30Speaker 4: Uh.
- 1:31Speaker 2: Everything else is just, depending on the day, just kind
- 1:33Speaker 2: of treading water and floating aimlessly for the most part.
- 1:38Speaker 2: You got a few other things that might be trying
- 1:40Speaker 2: to take hold, but it's just semis continue to be
- 1:43Speaker 2: driving the ship. As we sit here right now. The
- 1:46Speaker 2: S and P five hundreds up seventeen points, about a
- 1:48Speaker 2: quarter percent. The Dow is up point six percent thirty points,
- 1:52Speaker 2: and the NASDAK composits up forty points point one five percent.
- 1:56Speaker 2: The Philly Semiconductor Index, though, is again just continue to
- 2:00Speaker 2: chug along, up over one and a half percent today
- 2:03Speaker 2: and just you know, kind of humming and doing its
- 2:05Speaker 2: thing right now. Tenure Treasury a bit of a sell
- 2:09Speaker 2: off happening there, nothing crazy, but up three basis points
- 2:12Speaker 2: to four point three nine four percent. We've got the
- 2:16Speaker 2: dollar flat today at ninety seven to seventy eight, and
- 2:19Speaker 2: gold is up to ninety an ounce to forty three
- 2:23Speaker 2: seven I'm sorry, forty seven thirty three gold lagging other
- 2:27Speaker 2: precious metals because Mike I mentioned this earlier. But the
- 2:34Speaker 2: Indian Prime Minister Neurendro Mody, so he was, you know,
- 2:38Speaker 2: talking about a few things today, and one of the
- 2:41Speaker 2: things he mentioned was, Hey, Indian farmers, I'm gonna need
- 2:44Speaker 2: you to use fifty percent less fertilizer. He said it
- 2:47Speaker 2: was because of environmental reasons. Basically, it's because India can't
- 2:50Speaker 2: stock the amount they need at the pricing that they
- 2:53Speaker 2: can pay for it. But another thing that was interesting
- 2:55Speaker 2: to me, Mody said, Hey, what one of the other
- 3:00Speaker 2: things that we can do to help is everyone in
- 3:04Speaker 2: the country needs to really work on buying less gold.
- 3:07Speaker 2: And as someone who has traveled to India once and
- 3:09Speaker 2: spent a couple of weeks there and you know, has
- 3:13Speaker 2: friends who are married to like first generation immigrants from India,
- 3:17Speaker 2: sure you don't tell the Indian population to not buy gold.
- 3:21Speaker 4: I was gonna say that would seem to have the
- 3:23Speaker 4: opposite of.
- 3:23Speaker 2: Itt, right, that's like telling Americans not to buy toilet paper.
- 3:27Speaker 2: You know, like we've seen how this works, all right,
- 3:33Speaker 2: So Ultimately, what you have today is gold is flat
- 3:38Speaker 2: while all other precious metals are ripping basically because of this. Yeah,
- 3:42Speaker 2: but I can tell you that that doesn't really feel
- 3:44Speaker 2: like it's sustainable to just be like telling your whole
- 3:48Speaker 2: country to stop buying gold usually has the opposite impact.
- 3:52Speaker 5: Did you would ever actually tell any Americans to buy
- 3:54Speaker 5: a toilet paper or did they just come up with
- 3:56Speaker 5: that on there?
- 3:56Speaker 2: Like I was talking to someone about this over the
- 3:58Speaker 2: weekend where it's just like guys, like why why Whenever
- 4:02Speaker 2: something is like threatening us, do we go right for
- 4:05Speaker 2: the toilet paper aisle?
- 4:07Speaker 5: Yeah, unless it's a hurricane, in which case it's bread
- 4:11Speaker 5: and milk.
- 4:12Speaker 2: But like, guys like you'll you'll be able to get
- 4:15Speaker 2: the toilet paper. I promise, Like you'll be able to
- 4:18Speaker 2: figure it out. It's just you don't need to stockpilot
- 4:24Speaker 2: other markets. We've got crude oil West text in er
- 4:27Speaker 2: meeting up to twenty seven a barrel to ninety seven
- 4:29Speaker 2: to sixty nine, triple a national average for gas prices
- 4:33Speaker 2: since at four point fifty two a gallon, down two
- 4:36Speaker 2: tenths of ascent overnight. The one thing I will say
- 4:39Speaker 2: on that the Midwest has been in a world of
- 4:42Speaker 2: hurt because of refinery overages in the region. They're dealing
- 4:45Speaker 2: with more problems right now and gas prices are going
- 4:49Speaker 2: to be spiking there again over the rest of this week.
- 4:51Speaker 2: To put this in perspective, the national average has gone
- 4:56Speaker 2: up forty cents in the last month. If if you
- 5:00Speaker 2: take a look at Ohio, the Ohio move has been
- 5:07Speaker 2: from three eighty six to four sixty nine, so an
- 5:10Speaker 2: eighty cent move in the last month.
- 5:12Speaker 3: Uh.
- 5:13Speaker 2: If you wanted to take a look at what's going
- 5:16Speaker 2: on in I don't know.
- 5:18Speaker 3: Let's take a look at Michigan. If you look at Michigan, Michigan.
- 5:23Speaker 2: A month ago is at three ninety Nine's at four
- 5:25Speaker 2: seventy two, so a get up, you know, seventy five
- 5:27Speaker 2: cents during that time.
- 5:29Speaker 3: And if you want to.
- 5:29Speaker 2: Look at good old Illinois, Illinois gone from three ninety
- 5:34Speaker 2: nine to four seven I'm sorry, from four thirty nine
- 5:36Speaker 2: to four ninety seven, up about sixty cents. So the
- 5:40Speaker 2: Midwest is just not in a good spot because of
- 5:43Speaker 2: refinery problems.
- 5:44Speaker 4: At the moment, thirty.
- 5:45Speaker 5: Year mortgage rate as of Friday was sitting around six
- 5:47Speaker 5: four to two. With this slight jumping rates. You could
- 5:49Speaker 5: be closing in on six' five. Again ROCKET ceo being you,
- 5:55Speaker 5: Know Rocket, mortgage the company behind, that talked about his
- 6:00Speaker 5: most recent quarterly earnings WHERE q one they actually had
- 6:03Speaker 5: one of the best quarters in. Years pretty weak guidance
- 6:07Speaker 5: going into the second, quarter as you would, imagine as
- 6:09Speaker 5: the spring home buying season has thus far and very
- 6:15Speaker 5: likely Through june significantly underperformed what anybody in that space
- 6:19Speaker 5: was hoping. For so mortgage rates another area to keep
- 6:21Speaker 5: an eye on as we head into the.
- 6:23Speaker 2: Summer Last, friday we got a job's report and with
- 6:27Speaker 2: it we have this piece in The Wall Street journal
- 6:30Speaker 2: how to make sense of this strange job. MARKET i
- 6:34Speaker 2: don't think it's that strange at. ALL i think it's
- 6:38Speaker 2: exactly my comment, too like it's just a low turnover
- 6:42Speaker 2: job market that is seeing a real acceleration happening in
- 6:45Speaker 2: transportation because there is an uptick in freight shipments because
- 6:49Speaker 2: of a manufacturing restocking. Cycle that could turn into something.
- 6:53Speaker 2: Bigger and ultimately you've got a situation where it's just
- 6:59Speaker 2: a very very slow job market and you also have
- 7:02Speaker 2: very little labor force, growth and that means that the
- 7:06Speaker 2: unemployment rate has largely not moved a ton in the last,
- 7:09Speaker 2: year even with slow job.
- 7:11Speaker 5: Growth, yeah what is unique about this labor, market or
- 7:14Speaker 5: what was unique about a year, ago is we did
- 7:17Speaker 5: have a rise in the unemployment. Rate did that that
- 7:19Speaker 5: did not get accompanied by a, Recession and that is.
- 7:24Speaker 5: Unique unique about last year's labor, market WHERE i don't
- 7:28Speaker 5: remember the exact stat to you spring to, fall we
- 7:31Speaker 5: had more than a half percent climb in unemployment and
- 7:35Speaker 5: it did not lead to a, recession as it has
- 7:38Speaker 5: every other time something like that has happened in the
- 7:40Speaker 5: last eighty. Years But i'll also say that this has
- 7:42Speaker 5: been an incredibly unique labor market itself for the course
- 7:45Speaker 5: of the last six years due TO covid shut, down, reopening,
- 7:51Speaker 5: stimulus and now one of the strangest labor supply markets
- 7:55Speaker 5: that we have seen in a generation here with changes
- 8:00Speaker 5: to immigration and the baby boomers.
- 8:03Speaker 4: Retiring so it's a little bit. UNIQUE i don't think
- 8:07Speaker 4: it's that.
- 8:07Speaker 5: STRANGE i definitely don't think it is the most difficult
- 8:10Speaker 5: labor market that we've seen in a. Generation it's just
- 8:13Speaker 5: one of very little, turnover which makes it difficult to
- 8:16Speaker 5: find a new job if you don't already have one
- 8:17Speaker 5: difficult to find one if you are some areas of recent.
- 8:21Speaker 5: Graduates but by and, large if you have a, job
- 8:24Speaker 5: you're not currently losing, it which is the good.
- 8:26Speaker 3: News to take a quick.
- 8:27Speaker 2: Break when we come, back we'll talk about one of
- 8:29Speaker 2: the other features we've seen in the last, year which
- 8:31Speaker 2: is divergent fortunes between men and women in the labor.
- 8:35Speaker 2: Market what are we, seeing why is it? Happening we'll
- 8:38Speaker 2: discuss after.
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- 10:23Speaker 2: Com piece in The Wall Street, journal a changing job
- 10:26Speaker 2: market leans against men's. Subheader industries that heavily employ men
- 10:30Speaker 2: are losing jobs and the shaff of men working as
- 10:33Speaker 2: flatlined Well yes in you, know a very short period of.
- 10:38Speaker 2: Time that's what we're seeing here for one. Year BUT
- 10:41Speaker 2: i happen to notice the last two months trends being
- 10:44Speaker 2: that jobs that fit into this category have added about
- 10:47Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty thousand on a net basis in
- 10:50Speaker 2: the past two. Months and SO i wonder if maybe
- 10:53Speaker 2: we just shouldn't extrapolate too much from what's going on
- 10:55Speaker 2: in one particular.
- 10:56Speaker 5: Year agreed, There AND i don't know the male versus
- 11:00Speaker 5: female impact on this shift, overall but it does Seem
- 11:07Speaker 5: it seems to me that we will continue to see
- 11:10Speaker 5: significant stability in the employment.
- 11:13Speaker 4: Of health and social assistance.
- 11:14Speaker 5: Workers given our aging population and given the domination of
- 11:19Speaker 5: that industry by majority of, WOMEN i can see how
- 11:24Speaker 5: there would be more stability in that space compared to
- 11:26Speaker 5: primarily male dominated. Industries SO i think employment might be
- 11:31Speaker 5: more predictable in that space that it has been ever.
- 11:34Speaker 5: Before and unless we get men get over the stigma
- 11:39Speaker 5: of being male, Nurses i'm not sure that they will
- 11:41Speaker 5: benefit much from.
- 11:42Speaker 2: It help me reconcile that with. THIS i was at
- 11:46Speaker 2: A kentucky derby party a couple weeks. Ago, okay didn't
- 11:50Speaker 2: happen to win. Anything my horse was not the one
- 11:53Speaker 2: that threw its jockey, off but it was near that
- 11:55Speaker 2: one and was obviously spooked as a result of.
- 11:58Speaker 3: IT i just didn't know what to.
- 11:59Speaker 2: Do AND i was talking to a few different people,
- 12:03Speaker 2: there and these are people that are in standard you,
- 12:08Speaker 2: know white, collars sit in front of a, computer, jobs in,
- 12:12Speaker 2: healthcare in marketing media like you know, again like not
- 12:17Speaker 2: stuff that is using your, hands and a lot of
- 12:21Speaker 2: them were kind of like fed up with their jobs
- 12:23Speaker 2: for one reason or. Another corporate, this corporate. That AND
- 12:26Speaker 2: i was, asking, like what are you guys gonna? Do
- 12:29Speaker 2: and the answer across the board when talking to them
- 12:32Speaker 2: WAS i want to find some kind of hands on
- 12:35Speaker 2: business THAT i can, own because with concerns about LIKE
- 12:40Speaker 2: ai in those industries and YadA, YadA the hands on
- 12:44Speaker 2: stuff isn't going to be.
- 12:45Speaker 3: Disrupted and when.
- 12:46Speaker 2: You look at the rate of employment in you know, again,
- 12:49Speaker 2: plumbing electrical, welding like whatever it might, be those tend
- 12:53Speaker 2: to be male dominated.
- 12:54Speaker 3: Industries.
- 12:55Speaker 2: Yep and So i'm trying to reconcile this with you,
- 12:59Speaker 2: know kind of what's going on, here and it is
- 13:03Speaker 2: the chicken or egg, PROBLEM i guess is What i'm
- 13:05Speaker 2: getting to because you talk to people in the trades
- 13:09Speaker 2: right now and haven't found anyone who's, like you, know oh,
- 13:14Speaker 2: YEAH i have nothing going, on like desperate for. Work,
- 13:17Speaker 2: no like, again you generally find it, like, yeah things
- 13:19Speaker 2: are pretty busy in most, cases and the hardest thing
- 13:23Speaker 2: that they have is finding people that will show up
- 13:25Speaker 2: who can do the job. Consistently So i'm trying to
- 13:28Speaker 2: like reconcile all of, this AND i can't quite get.
- 13:32Speaker 3: There for some.
- 13:33Speaker 2: Reason where is it, just, hey there really isn't quite
- 13:36Speaker 2: enough labor demand, there or are we still just undersupplying
- 13:39Speaker 2: the trades with, people you, know as we've been doing
- 13:42Speaker 2: for the, last you, know twenty thirty.
- 13:43Speaker 3: YEARS i don't know what this, means but it means.
- 13:48Speaker 5: Something, YEAH i don't have an answer on the supply
- 13:51Speaker 5: of either side of these labor. SCENARIOS i don't get
- 13:54Speaker 5: the sense by the way that you, know hospitals are
- 13:57Speaker 5: having a much easier job finding nurses than construction firms
- 14:02Speaker 5: are having a tough time finding, plumbers for. Example but
- 14:06Speaker 5: IF i were to bet on you, know which area
- 14:09Speaker 5: is going to be more stable and consistently growing the
- 14:14Speaker 5: total employment group over the next twenty, years my bet
- 14:17Speaker 5: would probably be on healthcare over. Construction just generally, SPEAKING
- 14:21Speaker 5: i would tend to.
- 14:22Speaker 3: AGREE i could be.
- 14:23Speaker 5: Wrong THE ai data center thing could just really blow.
- 14:25Speaker 5: Out we could finally See america recognize that it's short
- 14:30Speaker 5: on homes and go on a real construction. Spree but
- 14:33Speaker 5: IF i had to place my, bets where DO i
- 14:35Speaker 5: think there's going to be more stable growth in? Employment
- 14:39Speaker 5: my answer would be healthcare over over a long period of.
- 14:42Speaker 2: Time, yeah we've talked about this a little, bit like
- 14:45Speaker 2: people taking care of people seems to be a pretty
- 14:48Speaker 2: sustainable business right.
- 14:49Speaker 3: Now i'm not saying that that's. Good i'm just saying
- 14:52Speaker 3: that it.
- 14:53Speaker 2: Is, yeah speaking of, WHICH ai can't agree on which
- 14:57Speaker 2: JOBS ai might, Destroy.
- 15:00Speaker 5: So if you're ASKING ai which, jobs like this isn't
- 15:05Speaker 5: WHAT ai is good. At you, know people keep turning
- 15:07Speaker 5: TO ai for this role of Crystal ball or this
- 15:14Speaker 5: roll OF.
- 15:16Speaker 3: I want to do an experiment right?
- 15:17Speaker 4: Now, okay, yeah?
- 15:18Speaker 2: Please what's your PREFERRED ai tool that you?
- 15:22Speaker 3: Have? Oh, like what do you have right?
- 15:23Speaker 5: Now?
- 15:23Speaker 3: Gemini can you pull it open right?
- 15:25Speaker 4: Now i'd love.
- 15:26Speaker 2: To, Yeah, Okay i've Used gemini like three times in my,
- 15:30Speaker 2: Life so my my history is pretty. Clean what's a
- 15:33Speaker 2: good question that we could ask it that is opinionated
- 15:38Speaker 2: about something? Like what can we ask it that's the
- 15:43Speaker 2: exact same question from both of?
- 15:45Speaker 5: Us how about you, know do something markets related or
- 15:50Speaker 5: politics related or weather? Related, weather what's going to be
- 15:54Speaker 5: the high temperature summer of twenty twenty?
- 15:56Speaker 4: Seven?
- 15:57Speaker 3: No, no, no no.
- 15:57Speaker 2: No that does give, Me, like okaylet's do something economic.
- 16:00Speaker 3: Related what are.
- 16:03Speaker 2: The best jobs to be in for twenty twenty?
- 16:08Speaker 3: Six?
- 16:09Speaker 2: Okay and again, like keep in, Mind mike has probably
- 16:15Speaker 2: Used gemini hundreds of times more THAN i. Have, Sure,
- 16:17Speaker 2: mike what's your number one thing that pops UP ai
- 16:20Speaker 2: engineer slash machine learning specialist.
- 16:22Speaker 3: Minus healthcare and behavioral?
- 16:24Speaker 2: Health we put in the exact same prompt into the
- 16:27Speaker 2: SAME ai and got total into the SAME ai model
- 16:30Speaker 2: and got two different.
- 16:30Speaker 3: Things what's your number two?
- 16:32Speaker 4: Essential?
- 16:34Speaker 5: Well, sorry so it breaks them into like four different
- 16:37Speaker 5: top technology AND ai rolls before getting into sure a
- 16:41Speaker 5: second category essential healthcare roles such as home health and
- 16:45Speaker 5: personal carriage.
- 16:46Speaker 2: Minus green energy and skilled. Trades so here's the. Thing
- 16:50Speaker 2: economists can plug whatever they want INTO ai, models even
- 16:53Speaker 2: like you won't get the same response back to you
- 16:56Speaker 2: because YOUR ai model is also responding to previous users,
- 17:00Speaker 2: inputs and so they will not be the. Same they
- 17:02Speaker 2: are crowd, pleasers not. Oracles did you give you a
- 17:08Speaker 2: summary table at a?
- 17:09Speaker 3: Glance at the? Bottom of, course they always what's your number? One?
- 17:12Speaker 5: For like specific ROLES ai, engineer nurse, practitioner followed by cybersecurity.
- 17:16Speaker 5: ANALYSTS i have information security analysts, there and THEN i
- 17:20Speaker 5: have data, scientists, win turbine tech and.
- 17:22Speaker 3: Electrician, like, yeah what do you have for your last?
- 17:27Speaker 5: Three i've GOT ai, engineer cybersecurity analysts from my two registered,
- 17:31Speaker 5: nurse financial manager and electrical slash electrical electrician slash electrical.
- 17:38Speaker 2: Foreman so like, again a couple of these are similar
- 17:40Speaker 2: in different. Orders but, again like ASKING ai which jobs
- 17:45Speaker 2: it might destroy based on how you've talked to it
- 17:48Speaker 2: in the, past it's going to come up with different.
- 17:50Speaker 5: Things even though, like for, INSTANCE i would WANT ai
- 17:55Speaker 5: IF i asked, it, hey where SHOULD i vacation in
- 17:58Speaker 5: twenty twenty, SEVEN i would want it to use some
- 18:01Speaker 5: of the feedback about. Me If i'm going to make
- 18:03Speaker 5: these tools better at reading me and like giving me customized,
- 18:06Speaker 5: ANSWER i don't really want that in, Reality BUT i
- 18:09Speaker 5: can see WHY i would do. That the problem is
- 18:12Speaker 5: it does the exact same thing with answers that should
- 18:14Speaker 5: not be based on my. Feedback LIKE i didn't ask
- 18:18Speaker 5: for what are they gonna be the best jobs for?
- 18:19Speaker 5: ME i asked what are going to be the best
- 18:22Speaker 5: jobs in twenty twenty, six and it is giving me
- 18:26Speaker 5: customized answers based on the types of Questions i've asked
- 18:29Speaker 5: it in the. Past, yes which is why it can't
- 18:30Speaker 5: answer your.
- 18:31Speaker 2: Questions did you also see the thing that was remember
- 18:35Speaker 2: WHEN i forget which who did, this but someone was
- 18:38Speaker 2: playing around with like trying to like stress out AN ai,
- 18:41Speaker 2: system and it basically started blackmailing them for use for
- 18:44Speaker 2: trying to use the. System like it was, Like i'm
- 18:46Speaker 2: gonna delete your stuff if you try to get rid of.
- 18:48Speaker 4: Me, YEAH i remember. That it was a while, ago,
- 18:51Speaker 4: though wasn't it.
- 18:52Speaker 2: So anthropic who Runs claude last week published some research on,
- 18:56Speaker 2: this and basically what they found was that because the
- 19:00Speaker 2: data set INCLUDED uh texts in which artificial intelligence turned
- 19:06Speaker 2: against its, creator THE ai thought that that might be
- 19:08Speaker 2: the right thing to, do and so it was, like,
- 19:11Speaker 2: oh like we weren't you, know using this as a
- 19:14Speaker 2: how to, manual but THE ai interpreted it that. Way
- 19:17Speaker 2: it wasn't that THE ai was actually thinking, no it
- 19:21Speaker 2: was just THE ai was, Like, Oh i've read this,
- 19:24Speaker 2: text now where this, Happens MAYBE i should do.
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- 20:38Speaker 6: chip maker looks to continue its rally following its first
- 20:41Speaker 6: quarter earnings report In. April intel is now up almost
- 20:44Speaker 6: one hundred percent from its trading levels before its.
- 20:46Speaker 3: Earnings report after the.
- 20:47Speaker 6: Bell On april twenty, Third Constellation energy is down two
- 20:51Speaker 6: and a half percent after reported better than expected revenue
- 20:54Speaker 6: of eleven point one two billion dollars in its first
- 20:57Speaker 6: financial report or first quarter financial. Report analysts expected revenue
- 21:01Speaker 6: of eight point four to six billion dollars from the
- 21:03Speaker 6: clean energy. Company and, Finally lumentum has risen over sixteen
- 21:08Speaker 6: percent on news it'll join The nasdaq one hundred. Index
- 21:12Speaker 6: the company will replace Co. Star On may, EIGHTEENTH i
- 21:16Speaker 6: am Ben kitchen and that Was Wall Street watch and
- 21:18Speaker 6: time to pay off a little bit of trivia. Here
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- 21:34Speaker 3: Com mark Not, Mark Mike.
- 21:38Speaker 2: Stretch then there's honestly like too, many too many m's
- 21:43Speaker 2: in the studio.
- 21:43Speaker 3: From time to.
- 21:44Speaker 2: Time THE s AND p five hundred seems to be
- 21:47Speaker 2: doing particularly. Well i'm sixty. Six is this a good
- 21:50Speaker 2: time to invest one hundred thousand in the stock? Market
- 21:54Speaker 2: that is the title of a piece from Market, Watch
- 21:58Speaker 2: and then.
- 22:00Speaker 4: Is, sure so long as you don't mind if it
- 22:02Speaker 4: goes down by fifty? Percent?
- 22:03Speaker 3: Yeah maybe here's the.
- 22:05Speaker 2: Thing none of us know what the market is going
- 22:08Speaker 2: to do. Tomorrow none of us know what it's gonna
- 22:11Speaker 2: do next, Month none of us know what it's gonna
- 22:12Speaker 2: do next. Year none of us even know exactly what's
- 22:14Speaker 2: gonna do for the next ten. Years if you look
- 22:16Speaker 2: at the historical range for THE s AND p five
- 22:18Speaker 2: hundred over ten year, periods at the low, end you
- 22:20Speaker 2: basically do. Nothing at the high, end you get, into
- 22:23Speaker 2: like the mid, teens a.
- 22:25Speaker 4: Wide variety even over the long.
- 22:26Speaker 3: Term, Yeah like you don't know what's going to.
- 22:29Speaker 4: Happen.
- 22:30Speaker 2: Uh the answer to, this whether the markets at highs or,
- 22:34Speaker 2: lows is can you stomach? Volatility can you you, know
- 22:40Speaker 2: live with that even when it's in its lows and
- 22:43Speaker 2: not sell? Out and do you need the money anytime?
- 22:46Speaker 3: Soon?
- 22:46Speaker 5: Yeah and by the, way you know this letter that's
- 22:50Speaker 5: written In, MarketWatch the answer seems to be. No on
- 22:53Speaker 5: several of those answers, QUOTE i couldn't handle a forty
- 22:56Speaker 5: percent drop BECAUSE i wouldn't have another ten to twenty
- 22:58Speaker 5: years to.
- 22:59Speaker 4: Wait i'm not sure that's true for this, individual but
- 23:02Speaker 4: if that's the, answer.
- 23:03Speaker 5: Then, no you should not be investing, it just plain and.
- 23:07Speaker 4: Simple.
- 23:07Speaker 5: Yeah i'll also, say generally speaking that a, stock you,
- 23:12Speaker 5: know it's tough to think about with THE s AND
- 23:14Speaker 5: p five, hundred but a stock going up a bunch
- 23:17Speaker 5: is not necessarily a good reason to buy said.
- 23:20Speaker 4: Stock, likewise you, know the.
- 23:21Speaker 5: Point about THE s AND p seems to be doing
- 23:23Speaker 5: particularly well goes directly against the idea of by low sell. High,
- 23:29Speaker 5: NOW i generally would, say you, know the best time
- 23:34Speaker 5: to invest another dollar was probably. Yesterday AND i feel
- 23:38Speaker 5: very strongly that people that try and there's a phrase
- 23:42Speaker 5: timing the market versus time in the, market and for the,
- 23:47Speaker 5: vast vast majority of, investors they're going to be better
- 23:51Speaker 5: off by having more time in the market rather than
- 23:55Speaker 5: successfully attempting to time ins and outs of the. Market
- 23:59Speaker 5: because as difficult as it is to know when it,
- 24:02Speaker 5: tops good luck also telling me when it. Bottoms, Yeah,
- 24:07Speaker 5: like really tough in the best of times to get
- 24:10Speaker 5: the right call in a stock going, Up but remember
- 24:12Speaker 5: you have to be right.
- 24:12Speaker 4: Twice you have to be right on when to buy
- 24:14Speaker 4: it and also when to sell.
- 24:15Speaker 3: It, well and, look here's the.
- 24:17Speaker 2: Thing the immediate price unless you're actually getting into like,
- 24:24Speaker 2: trading which if you're writing this question you're, not you're.
- 24:27Speaker 2: Not the immediate price action before is not indicative of
- 24:33Speaker 2: what's going to happen. Next we've seen stocks where they
- 24:35Speaker 2: sell off fifty. Percent in my favorite, quote, hey how
- 24:37Speaker 2: does the stock? Whose how does the stock whose seventy five? Percent,
- 24:40Speaker 2: well it loses fifty and then it loses fifty.
- 24:42Speaker 3: Again.
- 24:43Speaker 5: Yeah so, realistically, though there are people like this person
- 24:50Speaker 5: person who wrote To MarketWatch who have cash sitting on
- 24:54Speaker 5: the sideline or sold a home and suddenly are trying
- 24:57Speaker 5: to decide what to do with.
- 24:58Speaker 4: It how does one actually assess?
- 25:03Speaker 5: THIS i think there are a few steps involved, here
- 25:07Speaker 5: AND i think you can start off with the very
- 25:09Speaker 5: basics of ensuring that you've got other funds to live off.
- 25:13Speaker 5: Of if you're talking about a stock market, investment you
- 25:16Speaker 5: need to have a particularly long time, horizon and if you,
- 25:19Speaker 5: don't then it's probably not appropriate for. You but beyond,
- 25:23Speaker 5: that it becomes very much focus on your individual. SITUATION
- 25:28Speaker 5: i know people over the age of ninety who invest
- 25:31Speaker 5: primarily in the stock, market even though they have a
- 25:33Speaker 5: short personal investment time, horizon because it's mainly seen as
- 25:36Speaker 5: an inheritance for their kids and, grandchildren.
- 25:38Speaker 3: And they're comfortable with.
- 25:39Speaker 5: IT i know people in their sixties who are planning
- 25:41Speaker 5: on spending a great bulk of their money and are
- 25:43Speaker 5: far more, conservative and so it is heavily. Dependent BUT
- 25:48Speaker 5: i think the important piece is chasing returns often leads
- 25:53Speaker 5: to bad. Results if you have questions because you've been
- 25:57Speaker 5: sitting on the sideline and watching this market go through
- 26:00Speaker 5: what has admittedly been a pretty volatile series of economic
- 26:04Speaker 5: circumstances over the last eighteen, months and are, now you,
- 26:07Speaker 5: know suddenly, saying, Hey i'm thinking THAT i might be comfortable.
- 26:12Speaker 5: ENOUGH i would caution you to take a big step
- 26:15Speaker 5: back and speak with an expert who can ask you
- 26:18Speaker 5: the right questions about what could happen to that money
- 26:22Speaker 5: if you put it at. Risk it's not to say
- 26:25Speaker 5: it's a bad. THING i think you, know for most,
- 26:28Speaker 5: folks if they have a long time horizon and can
- 26:30Speaker 5: stomach the, volatility it can be a great way to build,
- 26:35Speaker 5: wealth but you have to be prepared for what comes with.
- 26:37Speaker 5: That if you have those types of, questions you want
- 26:39Speaker 5: to talk to an, expert somebody who does this day
- 26:42Speaker 5: and day. Out call the folks At Armstrong Advisory group
- 26:44Speaker 5: eight hundred three nine three four zero zero. One you
- 26:48Speaker 5: can check us out At Armstrong advisory dot. Com but
- 26:50Speaker 5: that phone number, again eight hundred three nine three four
- 26:53Speaker 5: zero zero.
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- 27:03Speaker 1: consult your own financial tax into state planning advisors before
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- 27:09Speaker 2: Services let's see what else do we want to cover. Here,
- 27:15Speaker 2: oh here's one That i'm not going to get involved.
- 27:17Speaker 2: In tiny data centers may be coming into the homes
- 27:21Speaker 2: Of americans in the.
- 27:22Speaker 4: Future, Oh i'm all on. Board, Actually oh come, On,
- 27:25Speaker 4: MICHAEL i mean pay, me But i'm all on. Board.
- 27:29Speaker 5: OKAY i got a, POOL i got six hundred ams
- 27:32Speaker 5: of electric service coming into my. House i've got solar
- 27:34Speaker 5: panels and all of the power lines in my neighborhood are.
- 27:38Speaker 5: BURIED i think somebody should be willing to pay me
- 27:40Speaker 5: a pretty penny to put a data center in my
- 27:43Speaker 5: basement and cool it with my pool.
- 27:44Speaker 2: Somehow and here's the, THING i don't think you're going
- 27:47Speaker 2: to be able to make any money doing. That, okay so,
- 27:50Speaker 2: Listen i'm the person who, said, HEY i would if
- 27:53Speaker 2: they get to the point where they can have miniature nuclear,
- 27:56Speaker 2: Reactors i'll put one in my basement because if the
- 27:59Speaker 2: worst thing, HAPPENS i won't.
- 28:01Speaker 3: Know it's, fine all.
- 28:02Speaker 2: Right so it's not THAT i don't want something like
- 28:05Speaker 2: industrial in my. House it's just that this is something
- 28:10Speaker 2: that doesn't make. Sense and by the, way i'm someone
- 28:13Speaker 2: if you want to know the kind of like nerd
- 28:16Speaker 2: THAT i. Am either of you familiar WITH. SETI seti
- 28:20Speaker 2: the search for extraterrestrial. Intelligence back in the nineteen, nineties
- 28:26Speaker 2: there was a program that was run called THE seti
- 28:28Speaker 2: At home, program which allowed you to basically keep your
- 28:31Speaker 2: computer on all day and it would help to allow
- 28:36Speaker 2: government programs to use that computing power to search for
- 28:41Speaker 2: like radio signals from. Aliens, okay so like crypto. Mining
- 28:45Speaker 2: but but you don't make any money on. It no,
- 28:47Speaker 2: Money you don't make any money off. It like that
- 28:49Speaker 2: was the principle of. It is like it would send
- 28:51Speaker 2: packets to your computer to like, read and then it
- 28:53Speaker 2: would send it, back and like that.
- 28:54Speaker 3: Was the whole.
- 28:55Speaker 2: Thing So i'm totally fine even with like using computers
- 28:58Speaker 2: on my premises for that might be.
- 29:00Speaker 3: Interesting What I'M i just am not.
- 29:03Speaker 2: Okay with is LIKE I i'm, SORRY i just don't
- 29:07Speaker 2: want my house.
- 29:08Speaker 3: Being used for the latest.
- 29:11Speaker 2: OPEN ai erotica to be, Generated LIKE I i have
- 29:15Speaker 2: a use case, problem quite, honestly.
- 29:17Speaker 5: Or i'm not SURE i. DO i, mean if the
- 29:19Speaker 5: price is, Right i'll do. IT i just don't think
- 29:21Speaker 5: the price will ever be.
- 29:21Speaker 2: RIGHT i got economics, problem the economics of building a
- 29:28Speaker 2: data center in my house compared to just building one in.
- 29:35Speaker 5: Rural Orange mass Like Orange mass. Choose it's just doesn't
- 29:39Speaker 5: seem like it's going to pay off for. Them, sure
- 29:42Speaker 5: but if they can make the money, Work like if
- 29:44Speaker 5: you'll pay my electricity, Bill i'm all on.
- 29:47Speaker 4: Board sign me.
- 29:48Speaker 5: UP i will run a data center out of my
- 29:49Speaker 5: basement And i'll cool it with my.
- 29:51Speaker 3: Pool here here's the.
- 29:52Speaker 2: Well, No, mike you're you're missing one other pretty LOUD
- 29:55Speaker 2: tan general benefit about, no forget about the loud, okay
- 29:58Speaker 2: the other tan general. Benefit i'm just to get and
- 30:00Speaker 2: to get on your side on. This you don't have
- 30:02Speaker 2: to pay for heat from the. Winter, well you could
- 30:04Speaker 2: hit your house with the residual from the data style.
- 30:07Speaker 4: It it might warm up my pool a few.
- 30:08Speaker 3: Degrees, right this could be a, real real positive for.
- 30:12Speaker 4: You, AGAIN i thought through.
- 30:13Speaker 5: It you can have my Think i'm a perfect, candidate
- 30:16Speaker 5: especially because my ludicrous a mount of electricity coming into my.
- 30:18Speaker 4: Home so all on board In, nvidia just you, know
- 30:22Speaker 4: call me.
- 30:23Speaker 2: Up let's take a quick. Break when we come, back
- 30:25Speaker 2: let's do a little bit of stack Rou let.
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- 31:05Speaker 2: Mike i'd like to kick things off or stack rule
- 31:07Speaker 2: and if it's okay with, you have at. It piece
- 31:10Speaker 2: in The Boston, globe but twenty four dollars cup of
- 31:12Speaker 2: coffee is landed In. Boston is it worth the price?
- 31:15Speaker 2: Tag so a couple. Things Number, ONE i am not
- 31:18Speaker 2: a coffee, drinker WHICH i think IS i think makes
- 31:21Speaker 2: me the perfect person to analyze this Because i'm not
- 31:26Speaker 2: emotionally addicted and physically addicted to the substance being. DISCUSSED
- 31:34Speaker 2: i think it's absolutely worth the price.
- 31:36Speaker 4: Tag how are they charging for?
- 31:38Speaker 1: It?
- 31:38Speaker 2: Otherwise, like, again if there's a market for, it there,
- 31:41Speaker 2: is and people be, like, oh LIKE i could never
- 31:42Speaker 2: shell out that, Much that's, Fine you're not the. Target
- 31:45Speaker 2: it's the same way most of us don't Drive. Ferraris,
- 31:48Speaker 2: ultimately they're not going to be selling this at every
- 31:51Speaker 2: dunks because there aren't enough people who would buy it
- 31:54Speaker 2: at this price to be able to sell it at every.
- 31:58Speaker 2: Dunks but there are enough Where, yeah if you want
- 32:01Speaker 2: to find you know the Local George Howell, coffee which
- 32:06Speaker 2: is Again George howell back in the seventies Founded Coffee,
- 32:09Speaker 2: connection which was sold To starbucks in the mid nineties
- 32:11Speaker 2: and was basically their expansion platform into The northeast during that.
- 32:15Speaker 2: Time But howel's been running like another coffee chain for
- 32:19Speaker 2: the last ten fifteen, years and that's where it's being.
- 32:21Speaker 2: SOLD i don't know how many of those stores there,
- 32:23Speaker 2: are but it's not. Many and so if he thinks
- 32:26Speaker 2: he can sell a twenty four dollars cup of coffee
- 32:28Speaker 2: based on the volumes he's, importing, LIKE i don't understand the. Problem, like,
- 32:34Speaker 2: yes it's probably an excessive, price but, again, ultimately how
- 32:39Speaker 2: many people listening have, bought you, know any kind of
- 32:42Speaker 2: craft beer instead of buying Bud. Light at some POINT
- 32:45Speaker 2: i was gonna say buy the ounce, here like this
- 32:48Speaker 2: is equating to about a fifty dollars bottle of. Wine Not,
- 32:51Speaker 2: now the comparison of you, know what your body is
- 32:54Speaker 2: going to react to with the twelve ounces of wine
- 32:57Speaker 2: compared to twelve ounces coffee is quite. Different, Admitted but,
- 33:01Speaker 2: yeah this is not shocking to me that you can
- 33:04Speaker 2: now go buy a twenty four dollars cup of coffee In.
- 33:06Speaker 4: BOSTON i just won't personally be doing.
- 33:08Speaker 3: So quite honestly find it.
- 33:10Speaker 2: Fascinating i'm kind of surprised as a non coffee drinker
- 33:13Speaker 2: that there aren't higher priced coffees out.
- 33:15Speaker 3: There, again you you look.
- 33:18Speaker 2: At the spread between like high end and low end and,
- 33:21Speaker 2: anything whether it's, cars, housing, cheeseburgers like anything that you
- 33:26Speaker 2: can think. Of it's generally more than you, know a
- 33:30Speaker 2: couple hundred. Percent that's. True you, know, like how is
- 33:33Speaker 2: there not like a fifty dollars cup of coffee that's regularly?
- 33:37Speaker 2: Available because what's the cheapest twelve ounce cup of COFFEE
- 33:40Speaker 2: i can?
- 33:40Speaker 3: Get probably ninety nine.
- 33:41Speaker 5: CENTS i DOUBT i can't even get that Anymore McDonald's.
- 33:44Speaker 2: Probably more than a dollar fifty two. Bucks, Yeah so,
- 33:49Speaker 2: Yeah i'm with. You given the price range of say
- 33:52Speaker 2: wine or, Beer i'm not all that shocked that there's
- 33:57Speaker 2: a twenty four dollars cup of.
- 33:58Speaker 5: Coffee and if that sounds ludicrous to, you, then Like chuck,
- 34:02Speaker 5: said you, are.
- 34:03Speaker 4: But it's not unlikely to be the.
- 34:04Speaker 2: Target, AGAIN i am not a coffee, drinker SO i
- 34:07Speaker 2: just look at this purely from like other, beverages and
- 34:11Speaker 2: the spread in a lot of those other beverages is
- 34:12Speaker 2: way wider than. Coffee So i'm kind of, like, Okay
- 34:14Speaker 2: like why.
- 34:15Speaker 5: Not typing is being replaced by whispering in the, office which.
- 34:23Speaker 4: Sounds really annoying to deal.
- 34:25Speaker 5: With so we've been people have been talking about this
- 34:29Speaker 5: coming for a number of.
- 34:31Speaker 4: YEARS i mean.
- 34:31Speaker 5: PEOPLE i remember having an employee actually At armstrong who
- 34:38Speaker 5: just wasn't great at typing and requested a like speech
- 34:43Speaker 5: to text software for his computer to be able to
- 34:47Speaker 5: speed up their. Work the problem, is AND i can
- 34:51Speaker 5: see why this is. Practical by the, way when you
- 34:53Speaker 5: think about using AN ai, system you do not need to,
- 34:57Speaker 5: speak you don't need to write in long, form and
- 35:00Speaker 5: you don't need to you, know thoroughly get your thoughts
- 35:04Speaker 5: out and use that extra typing time to put it to, paper,
- 35:09Speaker 5: RIGHT i THINK i feel like that's part of the
- 35:10Speaker 5: reason it's nice to use a, keyboard is because it
- 35:12Speaker 5: slows me down and lets me put my thoughts on a.
- 35:14Speaker 5: Page if you're talking to AN ai and prompting it
- 35:16Speaker 5: constantly to change something in a piece of, SOFTWARE i
- 35:19Speaker 5: get why you would physically want to be conversing with
- 35:23Speaker 5: it instead of just typing out the prompts yes.
- 35:26Speaker 4: Those you better express your anger THE.
- 35:27Speaker 5: Ai it does seem like it would be really annoying
- 35:32Speaker 5: to be in a giant office with a bunch of
- 35:35Speaker 5: people just kind of whispering to THEIR ai, Models and
- 35:39Speaker 5: that's probably what the offices Of google look like right, Now, Hey.
- 35:43Speaker 3: I'm trying to build something that doesn't kill. Anyone do
- 35:45Speaker 3: you know how to do?
- 35:46Speaker 4: This i'm, sorry that'd be too.
- 35:48Speaker 5: Dangerous uh, Yeah so that's that's the state of The
- 35:53Speaker 5: AND i do wonder, like might we get to the
- 35:55Speaker 5: place where keyboards are finally a bit antiquated given given
- 35:59Speaker 5: what we're seeing?
- 35:59Speaker 4: There probably, not BUT i find it. Interesting If i'm really.
- 36:02Speaker 2: Nice to, you will you keep me as one of
- 36:03Speaker 2: the humans alive after you all take?
- 36:05Speaker 5: Over those are the types of questions that are getting
- 36:07Speaker 5: whispered in offices at the.
- 36:09Speaker 4: Moment thank.
- 36:10Speaker 3: You, uh let's.
- 36:11Speaker 2: See fibermaxing has spurred the launch of fiber sodas and.
- 36:14Speaker 2: Gummies so here's the. Thing i'm a big line before
- 36:16Speaker 2: we realize that they cause, cancer so don't.
- 36:18Speaker 3: Know but here's the. Thing i'm a big fiber. Guy i've.
- 36:20Speaker 2: Been i've been a major supporter of fiber for a. While,
- 36:23Speaker 2: Okay i'm on record on the. Show probably anti hantavirus pro. Fiber,
- 36:27Speaker 2: yes that's what we know about chockass of. Today, yes
- 36:30Speaker 2: IF i were ever running as a candidate for, office
- 36:33Speaker 2: no road in viruses and more beans would be my,
- 36:36Speaker 2: platform got.
- 36:37Speaker 3: It but Again i'm a big.
- 36:38Speaker 2: Believer, look if you want to actually like get, fiber
- 36:40Speaker 2: go and eat a bunch of, beans don't drink like
- 36:42Speaker 2: a soda that's filled with. Fiber and the reason, why
- 36:44Speaker 2: by the, way is not because Like i'm anti. Soda
- 36:49Speaker 2: there's been a lot of research done into macro nutrient,
- 36:52Speaker 2: ingestion and what we've found out is just. Giving like
- 36:57Speaker 2: just putting big macro nutrients into your doesn't necessarily help
- 37:01Speaker 2: them absorb the same way as if you eat the
- 37:03Speaker 2: actual foods they come.
- 37:04Speaker 5: From we seem to be so bad at diet in
- 37:08Speaker 5: this country, Right like everything THAT i see at the
- 37:10Speaker 5: grocery store is now packed with.
- 37:12Speaker 4: Protein, like just eat an, egg but not the.
- 37:16Speaker 6: Yolk if you have high, cholesterol you don't want those
- 37:18Speaker 6: protein filled pop.
- 37:19Speaker 4: Tarts.
- 37:20Speaker 2: Ah fiber is the next, thing, like and, LOOK i
- 37:23Speaker 2: am very pro.
- 37:24Speaker 3: Fiber love the. STUFF i can't get enough of.
- 37:27Speaker 2: It but if you gotta drink it from a soda
- 37:31Speaker 2: or eat it in a, gummy just just have a bean.
- 37:34Speaker 2: Man if you're not a bean, person have some. Oats
- 37:39Speaker 2: if you're not an oat, GUY i don't, know, like
- 37:43Speaker 2: have some lettuce or, kale no fiber. Soda if you
- 37:48Speaker 2: gotta do fiber, Soda.
- 37:51Speaker 3: I'm.
- 37:51Speaker 2: Sorry it's just it's just a bridge too far for.
- 37:53Speaker 2: Me we're gonna take a break for the rest of the,
- 37:55Speaker 2: day have a couple of fiber, sodas and we'll see
- 37:58Speaker 2: you tomorrow