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Twilight with Costume Designer, Wendy Chuck · The Art of Costume Podcast

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Hello, welcome to the Art of Costume podcast.
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I'm Elizabeth Joy Glass. And I'm Spencer Cullen, Alice
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Cullen's ex-husband. You know that tracks.
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I am so excited because today is our season finale of.
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Season 4. Can you believe it?
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Four. No, I can't.
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I can't believe it started this long.
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Yeah. The season started with
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Barbenheimer. I know.
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But we are here, and as we mentioned last week, you know,
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we always like to do something fun for the season finale.
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Yeah, more like a gift to ourselves, honestly.
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We like to revisit something amazing with someone amazing and
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this week I think we we, we kept up with that theme.
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It was a fun one. Spencer, what do we have in
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store for the audience this week?
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Well, today we revisited a The Art of Costume podcast classic
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and we're talking about 2008's Twilight with Kristen Stewart
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and Robert Pattinson. If you haven't heard our
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original episode, we did a couple years ago with our
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friends Avija Kumar and Chloe White, and it was lots of fun.
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But back then we talked about how we really wanted to ask
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Wendy Chuck some of the questions we had.
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And today we're making that dream come true because Wendy
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Chuck is in the studio today to talk about Twilight.
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I am so excited to start talking to her to get some of these
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these questions answered, Spencer.
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But before we do that, do you want to give a little summary
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for those who might be unfamiliar with Twilight?
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Twilight was. Directed by Catherine Hardwick
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In Twilight, Bella Swan decides to go and live with her father
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and Forks, WA for the remainder of her high school years.
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She doesn't know she's making a decision that will change the
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rest of her life and lead her into the world of the
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supernatural, and that is Twilight.
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We're talking about the first Twilight, by the way.
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The one that changed culture, changed the world.
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Changed vampire movies as you know them that this is kind of
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like the same time period we get all these these teen heartthrob
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vampires, we we get True Blood. Right, all all the good stuff
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and no person to do it. And then Wendy Chuck, of course,
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who already had quite a stint in the teen throb movies.
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Yes. And before we get to our
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interview, let's meet our costume designer, Wendy Chuck.
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You will know her work from Nebraska, The Descendants, San
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Andreas, the Romanoffs, Hooby, Halloween, the whole the
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Holdovers and her upcoming project that is coming out next
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year. Yeah, May 2025.
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Disney's Lilo and Stitch. I'm so excited for that one.
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That's sweet. I mean, I love Leland Stitch and
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if any Disney film is going to get a live action makeover, I
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kind of would like to see Leland Stitch to see all of that
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Hawaiian costumes on the big screen in all their.
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Detail and so we can get these questions answered.
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Spencer, should we head over to interview Wendy?
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Chuck? I'm very excited.
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I really want to talk about the baseball scene and Edwards, Pico
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and Elizabeth. I think it's time we get to the
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bottom of that prom look. Absolutely.
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Now back to the show. We are so excited to finally
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welcome to the podcast after talking about her and her work
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for so long. Please welcome costume designer
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Wendy Chuck. Hey, Wendy.
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Hello, Elizabeth. Hi.
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So Elizabeth and I grew up during the era of these films
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coming out. You know, Elizabeth was a
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ferocious book reader. I was going to the midnight
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premieres. So we are definitely like that
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generation. So obviously it's it's a very
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popular book. So can't we just get into the
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preparation? I assume that you must have read
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these books in the beginning. I don't know how you couldn't.
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I, I did not read them when they came out and you became a fan.
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I read, I read them in preparation for the for, well,
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for an interview for the job. So yeah, I did a quick read and
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marked out everything in the book that related to a mood, a
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costume, an idea, and just quickly absorbed them and just
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went went with that. And you know, we love talking
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about the research of costumes on this podcast.
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That's probably what we spend most of our time doing.
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Twilight isn't your typical vampire film so I'm assuming
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you're not. You know most vampire films Like
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oh I was watching Bram Stoker's Dracula and Interview for
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Vampire. What did your research look
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like? Yeah, it.
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It looks like mysterious, Moody landscapes and lots of jewelry.
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Magical things. Yeah, it was more like magical
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things and then teen clothes. And I had already designed and
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been probably pigeon holed into designing a lot of teen movies,
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high school and prom and such, so kind of had a grounding in
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that world, but matching that with the what I thought was a
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magical world of Stephanie's creation.
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It feels kind of like a natural progression.
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And just talking about the production, you know, from what
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we've read, it sounds like the budget was not a very big budget
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for the film altogether. Was that a challenge that you
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all faced? Yeah, it's always a challenge.
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It's always a challenge. And, and plus, it was not in LA
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where we were living. So we had some time to prep in
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Los Angeles and then move to Portland and, you know, make
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everything happen at the last minute.
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It, it seemed very fast and furious at the time in, in
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hindsight, but you know, compared to contemporary budgets
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and particularly what I'm working on now, it's, I dare say
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it seemed generous. Oh, OK.
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Just so shrinking, right? Yeah.
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Did you all do any shopping when he got over to to the area or?
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Yes, for what was available in Portland, but I think most of it
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was prepped in LA. Most of the shopping for the for
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the Cullen family and Bella was done here.
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And then, you know, there were some local characters that were
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created from what was available there.
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It's very obvious that director Catherine Hardwick, she had a
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very clear visual vision for this movie.
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So what was your collaboration with her like?
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As I've mentioned before on several interviews and podcasts,
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that fast and furious gathering of ideas happened in the fitting
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rooms in Universal Studios where we were being.
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She was very involved, very involved.
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I mean, sometimes offering her own clothes, her own, her own
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dance, her own belts, her own ideas.
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I, I think like all of us, we, we always infuse some of our
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self into characters or movies. I know I do.
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And I think Catherine had a pretty clear vision of what she
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wanted straight on. I mean, she came from an art
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directing world and a production designing world.
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So yeah, a very strong visual sense, Catherine.
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So, you know, sometimes it was difficult and sometimes it was
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easily collaborative. And you know, we're often in
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place to serve the directors ideas.
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So, you know, you have to find a way to either win an argument or
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be happy with where you land. It's the out of negotiation.
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That's very true, and I would say personally, one of my
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favorite characters visually is Bella, who is clearly the heart
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of our story. And we meet her, she lives in
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Arizona, very sunny, dry climate, and then we go to
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Forks, WA, pretty much the opposite of that.
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Can you talk a little bit about your philosophy behind Bella and
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how you informed her costume? Well, you know, Arizona in
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comparison to, I mean, look at the climates they're they're
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opposite. So we have, you know, a young
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lady coming from a warm, dry, sunny climate to a dark, Moody
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grey, rainy climate. So, you know, we always saw her
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and, and the way she's written, she's a, she's a fish out of
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water. She's finding her way.
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She doesn't fit in, but she comes from a very kind of
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grounded, earth toned place and then lands in lands in a wet,
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rainy, cold place. And, you know, I used that it
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was useful to have that as an arc in her clothes, you know,
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starting with the warm tones and, you know, thrifted stuff
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to, you know, eventually embracing the colors as, as you
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have on the screen right now of, you know, Edward's world of the
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Grays and the Blues and the the more darks, dark colors.
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Moody. But she was always Moody,
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really. Yeah.
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That's very, very true. But let's also talk a little bit
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about talk about Moody. The colors.
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Honestly, them walking into the cafeteria, that's something I
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don't think I'll ever forget. That is a scene in film that is
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permanently burned into my mind. But the costumes really help
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tell their story to the audience before they even start talking.
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Can you talk a little bit about what you were thinking for them?
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Yeah, well, I always, I went into my initial interview with
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Catherine and I think Melissa Rosenberg was also in the room.
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And, you know, it was in the days where you do boards rather
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than, you know, it wasn't as digital as we are now.
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So I, you know, got done my cut and paste of boards and I
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presented an idea that instead of doing the traditional
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vampires of, of black, that we, you know, maybe they were white.
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And I always had the idea that they were frozen in time.
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So that's that's how I approached the Cullen family and
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the the vampire family as frozen in time.
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So it was icy and cool tones and, and, and this is what you
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see represented. I mean, of course, you know, I
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did have to lean into black, but I didn't want to do them all in
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black. So there's the whites and the
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Grays. So it's it's kind of like it's
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like a black and white photo. If you if you were.
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To. You know, take a graduation of
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of black to white like on the in the grayscale I.
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Love that. But I also threw the the Blues
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in as well. So, you know, Alice is in that,
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you know, I think she probably tended to more blue than
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brothers and then Edward eventually into Blue.
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I love that it's I love the idea of a black and white photo and
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to me, the colons are very cohesive and unique, but the
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nomad characters are unique but not cohesive because they have
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this more like Rockstar quality. And I just as I became an adult,
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I realized for all this time, I couldn't figure out why James.
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I couldn't figure out why James was shirtless and then how he
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ended up with the jacket. And then I realized, oh, they're
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picking up pieces of other people's clothes.
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And then just last night as I was preparing, trying to find a
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Kiss Me and Irish shirt, I'm like, where did that come from?
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And I found it on the guy that they killed, which I thought was
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genius. So can you take us back to the
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Nomad characters? They're so fun.
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Yeah, well, again, they were, you know, a day or two of just
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Catherine and I trying lots of things.
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And, you know, she'd already said, Oh yeah, they should be
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rock stars. And I and I love this image you
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have of them moving into frame toward because that it's.
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Bad ass. Yeah, it really worked.
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But I, I always loved Laurent. So, you know, to me, I saw him
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as Regal and from way back in history.
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And, you know, he's mixed his 70s jacket with his.
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Oh, God, I think that's Georgian, early 1800s look.
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And he eventually lost, Yeah. He lost his undershirt
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eventually. Yeah.
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Yeah. And then, yeah, James with his,
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you know, he picked, he has collectors things on his belt.
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And so, and they all have. So, you know, we're assuming
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that Victoria, you know, killed the sheep and Noe had to have a,
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you know, I guess, you know, an emblematic of of a kill.
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And you know, again, Catherine loved her pants and she brought
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in those elements of the that's a Mexican T-shirt, Mexican logo
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T-shirt. We have to embellish and
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multiply at some point. So there you have it.
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I mean, it was a collaboration and a collection, you know, at
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Western, you know, running into the stacks, pulling out anything
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that looked period or bad ass or sexy that kind of worked.
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And, you know, at some point, I think we were having James in
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sweatpants and, you know, that didn't work.
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And yeah, so that it just, it was, you know, the perfect storm
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of a collaboration, probably. Yeah, it's.
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It's just way too much fun. It's time to talk about Edward.
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The way Robert Pattinson embodied this character is
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iconic. Can you tell us about your
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approach for Edward and your collaboration with Robert?
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Yeah, Robert, I think, was very conscious of how he was going to
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look in this movie. Maybe he always is, but it's the
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only time I've worked with him and he had specific ideas about
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fit and where things landed on his body and which were all very
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useful. And then with all jobs, you
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know, once you get a template for a character, you can kind of
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run with it. So I knew, I think it was
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American Apparel was around at the time.
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So, you know, a lot of his T-shirts were from American
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Apparel because they fitted him right and they, they fitted him
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in the right way and landed at the right length for him.
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And that coat was, was that that coat was something else.
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You know, it is actually. And I'm, I'm doing that right
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now. Finding the right coat can be so
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useful. And, you know, it's, it's always
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a key piece. And yeah, I can't tell you the
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number of times I've had questions about these these two
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coats for these two. Yeah, well, that was my next
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question, Wendy. I mean, it's the pea coat heard
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around the world. I got a pea coat even though I
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lived in the desert, so I never even really got to wear it.
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Elizabeth's brother, I think, got a pea coat.
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Like we all got the pea. Coat Yeah, we, me and my mom
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brought my brother a pea coat because he had to go to a
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Halloween party and didn't know what to do.
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So me and my mom were like, well, you could be Edward.
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So we got her pea coat and then he wore it for the next like 10
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years. Well, they're classic.
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I mean, you know, pea coats are wonderful.
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I love them. And it not the not the last time
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I've used AP coat either. I mean, seems like every movie
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there's a pea coat. One is special because of the
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fabric and the design with the one, I don't know what that's
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called storm flap on one side. And I mean it just it just
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works. The texture works.
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It works to highlight the paleness of his face.
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And you know, that was something we were always conscious of.
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We, you know, we want him to look pale without looking like
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he had make up on. There were a lot of them on.
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So that was something that we worked together on.
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And yes, her coat I believe has become legendary.
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Recently surfaced photo that I found has revealed the maker of
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the coat because it was a mystery for all these 15 years.
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We saw it. We're definitely going to share
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it on YouTube, or at least I saw Elizabeth on Instagram, so we
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got to share that. It's the mystery's been.
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Revealed. Yeah, it's such iconic pieces.
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I mean, even the glasses that Edward wears that I believe
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they're Ray Bans. I got Ray Bans almost
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immediately and wore them every day, even though I was in like
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middle school, high school, and it was cloudy out.
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So it's just so funny that these pieces have such longevity.
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I have to ask, where did you get your pea coats from?
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I mean, probably just found some Gray pico at Macy's or
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something. I don't know.
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You know, it probably wasn't accurate.
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We got my brothers at H&M. It was definitely like, they're
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like, oh, let's catch this trend.
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Did they knock it off completely?
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Not completely. It was like just just different
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enough, yeah. Yeah, yeah, cuz I know like
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pretty soon after the movie was released that I think they were
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on eBay for $125.00. They were they were knock offs
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yeah, they were Chinese knock off of of the code.
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I never I never touched one or saw 1 so I don't know how they
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compare, but that's what happened.
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Things. Yeah, that's another podcast,
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Spencer. Yeah, we've talked about on this
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podcast plenty. Yeah, OK.
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Yeah. Yeah, but we'll happily talk
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about that any old time. But pay constant design is what
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they're worth. Anyways, let's talk about a
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scene that we're very excited to talk about, and I think we get
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the most messages about this scene in particular.
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You can't listen to a Muse song today without thinking about
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vampire baseball. I was actually just in
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Washington going on a hike and it got slightly cloudy.
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And everyone's saying that. Are you guys ready to play
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vampire baseball? Like, it's just so iconic.
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I love the costumes for the colons in this scene because as
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Elizabeth pointed out to me when we talked about this the first
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time, they all kind of have like a retro style to them, almost
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like they are kind of stuck in that time period that they came
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from and that kind of bleeds into their baseball uniforms in
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my opinion. Was that intentional?
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Yeah, yeah. Again, I mean that happened in
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in that fitting. I mean, I tried, you know, we
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went and put on real vintage things from them.
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And then except for, I mean, well, I mean, Alice has, I think
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we recreated that Rosalie's was, you know, based on some vintage
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pants and that look, but modernized for her, for her
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character. I mean, I think I got to say, I
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think I nailed that. It really works for their
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characters, you know, or their own style.
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Yeah, it's, it's way too much fun.
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And I love Bella's scarves, too. This.
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It's such a big, wonderful scarf.
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I really like that one. Yeah.
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Do you remember settling on that piece in particular?
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No, I think that was last minute.
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I think, I think that happened like on the day.
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I don't even remember where that was from.
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I mean, I know her mittens I got from a British knitter and had a
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lot of questions about those early in the day.
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I don't remember where the scarf came from.
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I have to imagine it was probably pretty cold on set
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though too. Like I imagine how.
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Was it day from hell? That was cold, damp, miserable.
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And, you know, they're not wearing many clothes, so it was
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bitterly cold and rain. Yeah, so.
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The scarf might have been more technical than than as.
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Imagine it might have been I need to help her keep warm.
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Yeah. Yeah, and it was, you know, the
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set was a long way from the holding the green room for them,
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which was warm. But then I had to, you know,
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jump on a Gator and and get to the set 5 minutes away on a on a
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dirt Rd. on a Gator. It was, Yeah.
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That's that's what we do. I also loved Bella's prom dress
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and them as a couple in this scene, they just look so
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perfect, and I've always particularly liked Bella's
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because it felt so modern to me at the time and so of the style
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of the time. Can you talk a little bit about
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how you came up with these looks, especially because it is
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a little different from the book?
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Yeah, well, you know, it's all practical problem solving in the
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moment. Sometimes what we do, I don't
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remember if I had other things for her, but the moment I found
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that dress was OK, this feels right.
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This feels like what she would, you know, it's wasn't like the
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other girls promy prom dress. It was more individual and you
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know, again, leaning into Edward's world with the colour
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and you know, the cardigan, as I've said many times, was a
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solution to the problem of the cold and damp.
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I mean, again, that was a miserable cold, cold event.
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And I think we cut up, you know, a thermal underneath that and
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for the exterior scenes. And she's got, you know, thermal
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leggings underneath that dress, too.
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So, you know, sometimes a design will be built around a practical
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solution. And I think this one was one of
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those, you know, a last minute find.
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I thought the dress was perfect. I don't remember having other
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dresses. Maybe there was one or two.
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But just when I found that one, I mean, that was it for me.
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And then it was like, oh, my God, I've got to keep them warm.
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What am I, What am I going to do?
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What am I going to do? We'll die.
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And, you know, we had a lot of notes from the producers,
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especially when we went to La Pouche.
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It was like, you know, we knew we had to shoot, but how do we
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make it happen on, you know, with actors on a really cold
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day? So anyway, that was a vintage
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find. You know, I went to all the all
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the vintage and thrift stores in Portland looking for something
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that I could put over her and I, it wasn't going to be an
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overcoat. That would be wrong.
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It wasn't going to be, you know, it was like, what what is this
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thing like? So sometimes you, you don't know
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what you're looking for, but you're looking for the answer to
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this, to the problem. And that to me was the answer.
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And, you know, it was a long grandma cardigan.
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Some people still think it is, but I think it works and you
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know, around you know, so I cut it shorter like a bolero and you
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know, gave it some shape and then reattached the sequin
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design. So it worked with the curve, the
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bolero and and there it is solution.
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I've really grown to like it. Edward also looks really quite
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expensive, like he knows how to do prom.
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He might. Maybe he's done it before so he
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knows how to look good. Well, that's a Gucci suit.
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Well, there you go. Yeah, yeah.
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And I don't remember the brand of the shirt, but, you know,
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yes, he cuts a fine figure. And, you know, that was another
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thing, you know, these, these the Cullen family had, you know,
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bottomless pits of money. You know, you match that with a
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movie budget and you know, so, oh, this is the moment where he
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can, he can, you know, we can see that he's got money to buy a
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great fitting suit. You know, I, I wasn't going to
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ask this because we don't have a picture, but someone texted me
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last night said you have to ask Wendy about Victoria sneaking
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into prom. She looked quite rich and
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fabulous. She might have upstaged everyone
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and she wasn't even there. Yeah, yeah, yes.
25:58
I mean. Was that the same coat or did
26:01
she wear or she just made it look nicer that day?
26:05
It was the same one and I don't know how we came up with the
26:10
colour for her because, you know, that was shopped in
26:12
Portland and it's, you know, it's limited.
26:15
So, you know, what was it that stands her apart from everybody
26:20
else? So I don't know where the idea
26:23
for that colour came, if that was me, if that's was just what
26:27
was available, if that was a suggestion from Kath.
26:30
Katherine I don't really remember, but it worked with her
26:33
hair and yes, and it made sense that, you know, she throw her
26:39
dead sheep code over. Yeah, if it's not broke way fix
26:43
it. Yeah, but I also have the other
26:47
characters turned out at the prom too.
26:49
But you know the friends. Oh yeah, I love Jessica in that
26:53
scene. Yeah, me too.
26:55
Yeah. Yeah, it seems perfect for her.
26:58
Yeah. Oh yeah, such a good one.
27:01
Wendy, this has been such a joy. We're so happy to speak with you
27:07
about Twilight. And it came out over 15 years
27:11
ago now, which that feels crazy to say.
27:14
It doesn't feel like that long ago, but looking back on the
27:19
journey you have been on since then, what has this film meant
27:22
to you? Did you ever think all these
27:25
years later you'd go to Comic Con and be talking about this
27:29
film? Not at all.
27:30
And I didn't think I'd be going to Forks two years in a row as I
27:34
have. So I was there and they invited
27:37
me last year and I love it's my first was my first time up in
27:43
Washington state and I loved it. And you know, the the fandom is
27:50
amazing is, you know, the rain, the age range runs from, you
27:56
know, the gamut and it's such a fun community.
28:02
So that was really eye opening for me because for I've never
28:07
known a movie to have so much life after its release ever.
28:12
So that's that's new to me. And now I've been embraced by
28:17
the community. So I would got invited back this
28:21
year and I I didn't have that much to do but just be there and
28:24
be present and enjoy. And they have a costume museum
28:30
there. Oh, oh, I've heard.
28:32
Of stuff, yes. And so I'm being invited to be
28:39
on the board of the museum and we are starting to talk about
28:44
what can we do to raise money? What can we do to.
28:47
We would like to move the collection into a new building.
28:50
We would like to buy some more items.
28:53
It's got life, it's got legs. more than I would even expect.
28:57
So it's been fun. Well, Elizabeth lives in LA now,
29:02
so we definitely are able to make that trip together, but let
29:05
us know so we can help make this exhibition happen too if it goes
29:09
into a bigger space. Yeah, yeah.
29:11
OK. We'll be in touch.
29:13
Well, this is so much fun and at the end of all of our podcast,
29:18
Wendy, we like to play a little game called One Costume Rule
29:21
Them All. Are you willing to play with us?
29:23
Sure. All right, let's give it a go.
29:25
Hit it, Daniel. One costume to rule them all.
29:35
All right, so the first time we played Elizabeth, I picked
29:39
Alice's baseball costume. But in the two years since we've
29:44
played, I think I've converted to Edward's Gray peacoat because
29:48
it's just I realized the impact it had on my life when I was in
29:52
high school and how I wanted to be Edward and bought his classes
29:55
and everything. So I have to pick that one.
29:58
Honestly, Spencer, it's mine as well this time around just
30:03
because like when I think about this movie in particular, that
30:07
is the first book that comes to mind your.
30:10
Pick last year or two years ago was to kiss me on my shirt.
30:14
I know, I know, because it's brilliant.
30:17
It's funny. I love that she just took it
30:19
from that man, that poor man, and ran with it.
30:23
But like Edward, that's who you think about from this movie
30:27
personally. Right, Wendy, what is your one
30:30
costume rule them all at the moment?
30:32
Yeah, I'm gonna have to swing with both of you.
30:35
This year's choice. I mean, I think it has to be
30:37
Edward. Yeah, it does Rule them all.
30:40
Yeah. Yeah.
30:42
And that's sad. Yeah.
30:43
And that was the first one that I got, like the many emails of
30:47
inquiries about. So I would have to say it rules,
30:50
yeah. Yeah, yeah.
30:51
It's, it's just, it defines, it's a generation.
30:54
It's really cool. This has been so much fun.
30:57
Wendy, thank you so much for talking with us.
31:00
And hopefully you'll join us again soon because you have some
31:03
new stuff coming out soon now. We're very excited about AKA
31:06
Leland Stitch. That must have been a lot of
31:08
fun. Yes.
31:10
Yes, yes, Yes, it was, yes. Hawaii.
31:14
It was a It was a grueling shoot for several reasons, but we made
31:20
it through and we finished shooting physical production
31:25
March this year. The strikes kind of got in the
31:29
way, and I can't wait to see some trailers with with the
31:35
characters in yeah, with the. Costumes.
31:38
Yes, I mean, all we've seen is stitch right now.
31:40
So I'm I'm I'm holding my breath for the next one where we
31:44
actually see Lilo, probably Lilo and stitch and the rest.
31:48
So you're. So funny you say that because
31:49
the trailer, I saw the trailer came out the other day and I was
31:52
like, Oh my God, this is it. And it was just Stitch.
31:54
And I was like, all right, well, not what I wanted, but.
31:57
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I'm hoping it stands up.
32:00
I mean, you never know until you see the movie.
32:03
I mean, I mean the costumes, not the movie.
32:07
And I think, I think they will. Well, we're, we're so excited.
32:10
We can't wait to reach out to you.
32:12
Costume designer Wendy Chuck, thank you so much for joining us
32:14
on the season finale. This has been so fun.
32:17
Thank. You.
32:18
You, Spencer and Elizabeth. Spencer that was so much fun.
32:26
Oh, so much fun. Wendy is so lovely.
32:29
I, I think it brought it up on podcasts before, but this whole
32:32
thing came about because I met her at San Diego Comic Con in
32:36
between panels. She was getting ready to do
32:37
hers. And I did mine the day before
32:40
and me and Phil Boute were writing some of the questions
32:43
and I got to sit down and chat with Wendy and I was like, Oh my
32:47
gosh, such a big fan. I have a million and two
32:49
questions, but we're only here for like 15 minutes.
32:52
Like, I would love for you to come on.
32:55
And she's so receptive and so sweet, and you could tell that
32:58
she just really cares about Twilight and all the TWY herds
33:01
out there and just really appreciates how iconic this film
33:05
has been, even though at the time when they were doing it, no
33:08
one thought that was going to happen.
33:09
So we're so appreciative to Wendy Chuck for being on a
33:13
podcast that was so fun. I love talking about all of it.
33:17
I know, I love that we got her to play one costume to rule them
33:20
all. Yeah, I didn't.
33:22
I didn't think. I'm always nervous to ask that
33:24
question. But she was ready to go.
33:26
She was Spencer. What is your stitch rating for
33:31
it? That's a real interesting
33:34
question. See, like if I would have gave a
33:40
stitch rating when I first saw it when I was a kid, you know, I
33:43
probably would have been like, this is like a three or a four
33:47
3.5. But just seeing how iconic
33:51
Twilights been and how integral it's been to like my life, the
33:56
soundtrack, the inspiration of the clothing and the way it
34:00
changed people's careers, the way it changed vampire culture
34:04
in general. So I'm going to give it a 4.5
34:09
because obviously it's corny in many ways, but I love it for
34:13
that. So it's hard to say it's it's
34:15
not a bad movie. It's a good movie it.
34:17
Is I? Honestly, I'm right there with
34:20
you, 4.5. As a lover of the books, are
34:24
there things I wish they had changed or done differently?
34:27
Absolutely. Is there some writing I will
34:33
never get over? Like hold on, spider monkey?
34:37
Absolutely. You're totally right.
34:42
Like this kind of like defined us as a generation, almost like
34:50
millennials. We're very sulky and Moody, but
34:54
you know, when it comes down to it, we're ready to have a good
34:57
time. Yeah, 2.
34:59
Two stitch rating movies don't inspire generations like.
35:03
That no, they don't. They don't.
35:06
It is what it is. It's 4.5.
35:08
Feels very good to me. Yeah, well, we would love to
35:12
hear your one costumes to rule them all this out there
35:16
listening. So make sure you e-mail us at
35:19
e-mail us at theartofcostume@gmail.com.
35:22
And of course, follow us on Instagram and TikTok at the Art
35:26
of Costume Pod and let us know what your favorite costume was.
35:29
Twilight, I'm sure, changed your life like it changed hours,
35:32
whether you like to admit it or not.
35:34
So might as well speak up now. Elizabeth.
35:38
That wraps up this season, but I'm excited to say that we're
35:43
going to be back next year. Just, yeah, growing our Costume
35:47
Design Co family and talking about more great costumes.
35:52
We're going to be in a studio in the new year.
35:55
I know I'm very excited. Very excited about We are, it's
36:00
almost done being built. We just need a little bit more
36:02
time, but we'll be ready to go in January likely.
36:05
Yes, our first episode sounds like it might be coming out
36:08
January 14th. So everybody, mark your
36:11
calendars and get ready for the start of the Arctic Costume
36:16
Podcast Season 5. It's been a year, but excited to
36:20
make more memories with you and Daniel and everyone listening
36:23
next year. Absolutely.
36:25
Bye everyone.