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ITB Week 3 Postgame Show: Eagles Humbled By Ben Johnson – Again · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hello, welcome to the Inside the Birds postgame show. I'm
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  Speaker 1: Jeff Mosher. That's Adam Kaplan. And the Eagles have their
• 0:17
  Speaker 1: first loss of the year. It happened late, late Monday
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  Speaker 1: night when it was all said and done. A 27-7
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  Speaker 1: loss to the Chicago Bears in Soldier Field. And boy,
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  Speaker 1: Adam Kaplan is... Are the Eagles going to be haunted
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  Speaker 1: by Ben Johnson, man? If they have to play again
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  Speaker 1: in the playoffs, that guy has had their number last
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  Speaker 1: year in the run game. this year in the passing
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  Speaker 1: game with a 38 year old quarterback. Uh, let's, let's
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  Speaker 1: talk about this from a, just a big picture level
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  Speaker 1: for a second. Um, there, there were like two enemies
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  Speaker 1: for the Eagles, right? In this game. One was their
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  Speaker 1: traditional enemy that they've been able to overcome all year,
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  Speaker 1: which is living in third and long too much. And
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  Speaker 1: that was really bad. The second half, um, the second
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  Speaker 1: enemy was themselves in a way that we hadn't seen
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  Speaker 1: in the first two games with the really bad penalties. Um,
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  Speaker 1: really bad tackling, some turnovers, some bad coaching decisions, all
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  Speaker 1: wrapped up into one. It was like they're not their
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  Speaker 1: typical selves.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they look like a very mediocre football team. The
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  Speaker 2: game did not play out, let's be honest, like any
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  Speaker 2: of us thought on the pregame show with you and
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  Speaker 2: I and Greg Cosell. But yeah, there are a lot
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  Speaker 2: of corrections to make. There's some things that are concerning.
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  Speaker 2: It's just like, They roll the running game with phenomenal
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  Speaker 2: in the first half. Barkley ran with velocity and great vision.
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  Speaker 2: You're looking for that explosion through the hole and for
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  Speaker 2: the vision to take over, and it did. It's the
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  Speaker 2: first time in the three games where you saw them
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  Speaker 2: understanding the zone scheme.
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  Speaker 1: And holes. There were holes. That was good, too.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, the duo blocks were phenomenal.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, wow, they're crushing them on duo. And
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  Speaker 2: how bad was their offense in the second half? 41
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  Speaker 2: yards passing. When you're playing from behind, it's embarrassing. Terrible.
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  Speaker 2: And only nine yards rushing their offense. It's like they
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  Speaker 2: almost didn't play in the second half. They were so bad.
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  Speaker 2: The game was lost in the third quarter. They couldn't
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  Speaker 2: get anything going. And then the other troubling part is
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  Speaker 2: the minus five in the turnover ratio. They don't have
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  Speaker 2: a turnover. They haven't even been close to getting a
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  Speaker 2: turnover in defense. Their defense is so average. Again, not
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  Speaker 2: what anyone expected. I think if we're telling the truth here,
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  Speaker 2: we are. We thought a lot of this defense coming in,
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  Speaker 2: and they've done anything but deliver. It's been so disappointing. Like,
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  Speaker 2: if you had to give a three-game takeaway for this
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  Speaker 2: football team, lack of pressure on defense, lack of a
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  Speaker 2: running game overall. I mean, they've ran the ball through
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  Speaker 2: six quarters. They've run it well, too. And the passing game,
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  Speaker 2: which looked like it was carrying them through the first
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  Speaker 2: two games. In fact, it was. was nowhere to be seen.
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  Speaker 2: It was, it's kind of, it was kind of individual plays.
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  Speaker 2: So Sirianni, I know it was coach speak. No one
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  Speaker 2: did well in this game. I mean, it was an
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  Speaker 2: absolute disappointment overall from the football team. And the fact
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  Speaker 2: Braden man, wasn't that good. The fact that, you know,
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  Speaker 2: he's been phenomenal through two games. He wasn't even that good.
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  Speaker 2: So Sirianni wasn't sugarcoating it. I mean, it was just
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  Speaker 2: a lack of everything. Coaching was poor execution was poor
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  Speaker 2: by the players and they earned this one. And the
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  Speaker 2: first time in a game, It was a three that
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  Speaker 2: they never led. They actually never led in this game,
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  Speaker 2: and they kind of earned it. Like, what the 27-7 score,
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  Speaker 2: blind what it looked like. I mean, it was just
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  Speaker 2: a badly, poorly played game.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, like you said, everything that they could
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  Speaker 1: mess up, they did. They had some bad luck, too. Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: Hurts gets the late hit, has to go into the
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  Speaker 1: medical tent. Dalton comes in, throws a pick. But even
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  Speaker 1: with that, there are things that were avoidable or better coaching.
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  Speaker 1: I know, you know, I mentioned this on the quick
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  Speaker 1: recap show that you had made a really good point
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  Speaker 1: about you don't have to take a timeout there when
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  Speaker 1: Dalton comes in to go check on your quarterback. That's
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  Speaker 1: not the point of it. We know that Brian D'Abel
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  Speaker 1: got in trouble and Nick referenced that in an indirect way.
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  Speaker 1: Nobody says take a timeout and go get your quarterback
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  Speaker 1: in the game. Take a timeout, settle your offense, give
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  Speaker 1: your first-time play caller just another more minute. Do I
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  Speaker 1: really want to call a play? which you pointed out,
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  Speaker 1: where it doesn't give my quarterback, who just got into
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  Speaker 1: the game, a really easy throw or throw away, right?
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  Speaker 1: You don't want him confused and kind of like trying
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  Speaker 1: to make a play when it wasn't there, which is
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  Speaker 1: exactly what Andy Dalton did. Like a timeout, even Nick admitted,
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  Speaker 1: a timeout may have been a good idea there, even
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  Speaker 1: though he wanted to save it just to settle things down.
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  Speaker 1: And then maybe along that way, you do find out
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  Speaker 1: that your quarterback can get back in the game. He
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  Speaker 1: was literally kind of coming out of the tent right
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  Speaker 1: as the pick got thrown. So it was just... like
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  Speaker 1: you said, it was like a confluence of a lot
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  Speaker 1: of bad things happening all at once. And you can
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  Speaker 1: go up and down the whole game and find a
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  Speaker 1: lot of that.
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  Speaker 2: So what I was referencing, Jeff and I were texting
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  Speaker 2: during the game. And one of the things I've learned
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  Speaker 2: from talking to coaches over the years, when, when a
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  Speaker 2: quarterback has to come in cold, if he's got to
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  Speaker 2: throw the football, which he had to, they didn't have
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  Speaker 2: a choice. Well, you could have said they had a
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  Speaker 2: choice to sneak it in, but, or push it from
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  Speaker 2: fourth and three, whatever the yard, whatever it was, but
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  Speaker 2: is to give him an easy read, get out of
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  Speaker 2: his hands quickly so he doesn't have to think out there. Like,
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  Speaker 2: you define the read for him so he gets rid
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  Speaker 2: of it. The play was anything but defined. Like, you
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  Speaker 2: could have done a sprint right option.
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  Speaker 1: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: He's literally rolling to the right and throwing it one-on-one,
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  Speaker 2: maybe to a tight end over here. You just want
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  Speaker 2: to help him a little bit. I just didn't think
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  Speaker 2: they handled it right. And I'll give Sirianni credit. He
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  Speaker 2: didn't walk away from saying, because sometimes he's sarcastic when
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  Speaker 2: the the media questions the play call. Because what happens
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  Speaker 2: is you're questioning the result. But no, we're questioning going in.
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  Speaker 2: The fourth and one, fourth and maybe it was one
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  Speaker 2: and a half, trying to draw them off. Why would
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  Speaker 2: you not go for it?
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  Speaker 1: I was so surprised, Adam. It was almost so un-Seriani-like.
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  Speaker 1: It really validated his point that everybody just had a
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  Speaker 1: bad game. I don't know if that makes it easier
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  Speaker 1: to shake off. It doesn't, but That was just really
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  Speaker 1: on Sirianni-like. I was surprised.
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  Speaker 2: And this is where they don't have a senior offensive assistant.
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  Speaker 2: This is something that's been a pet peeve of mine.
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  Speaker 2: Sirianni's come up short coaching, occasionally over his career, where
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  Speaker 2: they don't have that guy in his ear, hey, think
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  Speaker 2: about this, and he could relate it to Mannion. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it just was– they earned it. Now, Ben Johnson was–
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  Speaker 2: It's interesting. This is where, like, you don't know what's
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  Speaker 2: going to happen. Eagles control their Chicago's run game. They
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  Speaker 2: did a great, really good job. Yes. But the short,
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  Speaker 2: the three and five step drops, I mean, they totally
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  Speaker 2: negated the Eagles pass rush.
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  Speaker 1: Totally. Right.
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  Speaker 2: Now, Grenard had a couple of really nice rushes. In fact,
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  Speaker 2: his first one, although it went on being a big
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  Speaker 2: pass play, he completely beat the tackle. He made a
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  Speaker 2: jab step and beat the guy, but Case Keenum got
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  Speaker 2: rid of the football. I mean, literally, every three- and
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  Speaker 2: five-step drop, his back foot, which is his right foot,
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  Speaker 2: as soon as it hit, balls out, they couldn't touch him. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it was just a great job. I was
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  Speaker 2: surprised that that came out of throwing. I was like, wow,
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  Speaker 2: first half of this drive, are they going to throw
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  Speaker 2: on every down? And they ran a little bit, mixed
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  Speaker 2: it in. But they saw that because Eagles were playing
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  Speaker 2: off coverage, they gave up so much space. Okay, we're
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  Speaker 2: going to run crossers. And the communication from the secondary
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  Speaker 2: was terrible.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, really bad.
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  Speaker 2: And they don't disrupt timing. Yeah, the timing of the receivers,
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  Speaker 2: it was just, Fangio is a genius and he's a
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  Speaker 2: phenomenal coach, but he's got to get his guys, he's
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  Speaker 2: got to redo his game plan. What he's doing is
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  Speaker 2: not working.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's a really good point, and I made
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  Speaker 1: this point in the recap. It does seem like these
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  Speaker 1: specific offenses, right, and they're about to see two more
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  Speaker 1: in the next two weeks, the ones that are Heavy motion,
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  Speaker 1: heavy under center play action. Even last week against the Titans,
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  Speaker 1: the under center play action that Brian Dable all of
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  Speaker 1: a sudden pulled out of his rear end for Cam Ward.
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  Speaker 1: That worked, right? The 25-yard strike to Ridley, the 41-yarder
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  Speaker 1: to Io Manor. He had a couple of big, quick
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  Speaker 1: gains in the zone against the zone from the under
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  Speaker 1: center play action looks. Well, guess what the Rams are
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  Speaker 1: going to do? I mean, they live in that world.
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  Speaker 1: The Jacksonville Jaguars with Liam Cohen live in that world, too.
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  Speaker 1: And if you go back to like the 49ers game
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  Speaker 1: last year, it wasn't like an offensive eruption, but it
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  Speaker 1: shouldn't have been. The Niners were down to like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they had no weaponry and yet they still get a
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  Speaker 1: trick play. They still get a few big ones to
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  Speaker 1: Juwan Johnson. So I don't, you know, Vic's great and
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  Speaker 1: nobody has to go up and tell him or remind
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  Speaker 1: him that he, you know, He needs to be better
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  Speaker 1: or anything like that. But he does have to figure
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  Speaker 1: out a way to get his defense to play better,
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  Speaker 1: specifically against these offenses that work off under center play action.
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  Speaker 1: Because there were just too many wide open lanes.
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  Speaker 2: The voids in zone, we've learned over the years, is
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  Speaker 2: in every zone defense there's voids. You just have to
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  Speaker 2: find them. Ben Johnson found them. Yes. And give Aikman,
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  Speaker 2: Troy Aikman, credit. He pointed out repeatedly about the cavern
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  Speaker 2: in the middle of the field. Like there was so
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  Speaker 2: much space. It was interesting. Those are the big takeaways,
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  Speaker 2: but they've got flaws, man. The offensive line was inconsistent.
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  Speaker 2: The running game, as we talked about, was atrocious in
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  Speaker 2: the second half after it was phenomenal. Steen's hold, by
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  Speaker 2: the way, fans are wrong who are saying that that
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  Speaker 2: was not a hold. It absolutely is. I've talked to
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  Speaker 2: Dean Blandino, Mike Pereira over the years. When you hook
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  Speaker 2: Their job is not to legislate intent or when it happened.
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  Speaker 2: They only call what they see.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: I know it was out of the play, and I
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  Speaker 2: hate the call, but it's the correct call. When you hook,
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  Speaker 2: they're calling it, man. Steen hooked them. That's the penalty.
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  Speaker 2: It's textbook hook.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it reminds me of when, like, yeah, when, like,
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  Speaker 1: a quarterback throws to a wide receiver and it's, you know,
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  Speaker 1: a good play, but on the other side of the field,
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  Speaker 1: there was defensive holding. Even if the quarterback didn't look there,
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  Speaker 1: the ref still has to call it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It was absolutely a hold. He had his hands inside
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  Speaker 1: as he was getting past him. It was just unfortunate
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  Speaker 1: for Steen and for the Eagles that it didn't factor
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  Speaker 1: into the play. Beautifully designed.
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  Speaker 2: It just, that's the thing that was so disappointing in
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  Speaker 2: the first half is, like, They're running the ball beautifully.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: It's the first time in three games that Barkley's understanding
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  Speaker 2: the timing of outside zone and when to cut and
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  Speaker 2: how to read your blocks. That's the key to what
• 10:44
  Speaker 2: the father of the zone scheme, outside zone, the late
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  Speaker 2: Alex Gibbs with the Broncos. He made it so famous
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  Speaker 2: with Terrell Davis, the stretch play. And Saquon was getting it,
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  Speaker 2: and boy, did he explode him. And the velocity, it's
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  Speaker 2: incredible when he got it. So that's a positive. They
• 11:01
  Speaker 2: could take that. Now, we'll talk to Greg Cosell when
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  Speaker 2: we do the inside of the tape show. We don't
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  Speaker 2: know what the hell happened in the second half. That
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  Speaker 2: was atrocious. They couldn't do anything right.
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  Speaker 1: I do suspect, I was trying to pay attention, I
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  Speaker 1: do suspect that Greg will say, because it looked to
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  Speaker 1: me like the Bears were starting to shoot gaps with
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  Speaker 1: linebackers or a second-level player, just to have one more
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  Speaker 1: gap covered up and maybe force Saquon into a cutback.
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  Speaker 1: But Which would be a good adjustment. And if that's
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  Speaker 1: the case, it clearly worked. I was, yeah, I'm with you.
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  Speaker 1: But I thought it was more, I thought the offensive
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  Speaker 1: line was resetting line of scrimmage on those wide zone
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  Speaker 1: runs and giving Saquon. a really good hole, and then
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  Speaker 1: he was just naturally using that butticism getting through. Either way,
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  Speaker 1: whatever the point is, they were running the ball really
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  Speaker 1: well in the first half, and it literally just fizzled
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  Speaker 1: out and died in the second half. And then you
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  Speaker 1: got a repeat. Well, then you got the cautionary tale
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  Speaker 1: that you and I have been talking about now for
• 11:56
  Speaker 1: two weeks and saying, yes, the offense has been playing great.
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  Speaker 1: Hertz is total command of the offense. It's true, you
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  Speaker 1: can see he's comfortable, but there's just no way in
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  Speaker 1: the world you can play an entire 17-game schedule and
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  Speaker 1: get that kind of play when you are constantly living
• 12:12
  Speaker 1: in unmanageable down and distances. And we kept saying, against
• 12:15
  Speaker 1: a good team, against a better defensive play caller, that
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  Speaker 1: will hurt you, and it absolutely did. You just cannot
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  Speaker 1: continue to get bailout and bailout on second and third
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  Speaker 1: and long from a quarterback. It's just eventually those kind
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  Speaker 1: of– they call that unmanageable down and distance for a reason.
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  Speaker 1: It's not a way to live. And unfortunately, that's what
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  Speaker 1: really killed the Eagles. They had no first down offense.
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  Speaker 1: And the one step forward, two steps back to things
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  Speaker 1: also applies to the play calling because we both liked
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  Speaker 1: that on the first two drives, the Eagles came out
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  Speaker 1: throwing on first down, which is what we felt. We
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  Speaker 1: said that during the week. You're not running the ball well.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe it's a good idea to loosen up a defense
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  Speaker 1: by coming out and throwing on first down. And they
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  Speaker 1: did that early in the game. Second half, it felt
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  Speaker 1: like a retreat back to Try to run the ball
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  Speaker 1: in first down. Go nowhere. And the play that really
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  Speaker 1: killed them to me and set the whole tone for
• 13:05
  Speaker 1: the second half, Adam, was the second play of the
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  Speaker 1: third quarter. So they come out. Remember, they get the momentum.
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  Speaker 1: They get a touchdown going into halftime. Hertz came back.
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  Speaker 1: He looked under control. They get a nice seven-yard run
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  Speaker 1: from Barkley on the first play. What is the second play?
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  Speaker 1: It is a screen. A screen from a ghost motion.
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  Speaker 1: to Makai Lemon that goes for minus two. And now
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  Speaker 1: you're back to third and long, and then Hertz gets
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  Speaker 1: pressured and he has to roll out of the pocket
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  Speaker 1: and then he gets sacked. And then the second drive
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  Speaker 1: there again in second and third and long, and then
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  Speaker 1: Hertz almost throws the interception to TJ Edwards, which would
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  Speaker 1: be the same exact blitz package that Dennis Allen uses
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  Speaker 1: a few plays later to make it that he does
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  Speaker 1: throw the ball to TJ Edwards. But man, that, That
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  Speaker 1: ghost motion screen that went nowhere, that was such an
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  Speaker 1: ominous play because you almost knew this play is not working.
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  Speaker 1: You keep trying it and it puts you behind the stakes.
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  Speaker 2: Their orbit motion has not worked at all. In fact,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if there's even a grade for this
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  Speaker 2: by the stat services. Eagles have to be the worst
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  Speaker 2: screen team of the 32 teams since Sirianni's been head coach.
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  Speaker 2: They have to be the worst.
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  Speaker 1: They have to.
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  Speaker 2: It's so embarrassingly bad. Now, And people want to point
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  Speaker 2: out predictability. That's fine. I'm not going to argue. But
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  Speaker 2: the bigger point you're missing is they cannot block at all.
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  Speaker 2: That's the thing we have to speak more about. It's
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  Speaker 2: been absolutely atrocious. The receivers and tight ends cannot block
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  Speaker 2: for those plays. It's like anything behind the line of scrimmage.
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  Speaker 2: They can't do it. And Sirianni says the same thing.
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  Speaker 2: We have to do a better job. We have to
• 14:40
  Speaker 2: do a better job. Yeah. How about either taking it
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  Speaker 2: out because you can't do it or coming up with
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: something else that might work? Right. Reverse it. Try something different.
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  Speaker 2: It's just embarrassing. It's crazy because West Coast offenses, man,
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  Speaker 2: they live in screen game. Kyle Shannon, one of the
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  Speaker 2: best in NFL history, calling it.
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  Speaker 1: For sure.
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  Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey. But anyway, it's bad. And guess what happened
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: as we ran up the offense? Saquon got blown up again.
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  Speaker 2: DeMarco Jackson with that great blitz. It's just Saquon just
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: cannot pass protect. He's just bad at it. He got
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: blown up badly. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: We had this conversation last week. We said, listen, if
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: you want to run this wide zone– What happens when
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: you don't have wide receivers who are killers in the
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: run game? And they don't. You know, Wicks is probably
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  Speaker 1: the only one because he's a big body who can
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  Speaker 1: give you some good blocking on the outside. He's not perfect,
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  Speaker 1: but he's good. But Lemon's not much of a– I mean,
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  Speaker 1: he's not a big guy to begin with. He's willing,
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  Speaker 1: but not great. We know Devontae Smith. They don't want
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  Speaker 1: him blocking too much with the knees and the hamstring
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: that he has. Munt is a good blocker, but, you know,
• 15:41
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• 15:43
  Speaker 1: Ertz was actually– God bless Zach Ertz. I can't believe
• 15:46
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• 15:48
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• 15:52
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• 15:54
  Speaker 1: of those screens or hitch plays that we're talking about.
• 15:57
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• 16:00
  Speaker 1: and I'm not quite sure they can do that at
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: the moment to do what they want to do when
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: you don't have that edge blocking that those offenses really
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: rely on. There's no magic fix for that either, I
• 16:11
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• 16:12
  Speaker 2: No, there's no elixir for it. But here's what surprised
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: me with Ertz. 19 snaps were not a surprise. I
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: thought he'd get up to 20. Here's what the surprise was.
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: 38% of the snaps. I thought maybe 25%, 30 at most.
• 16:24
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• 16:24
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• 16:28
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• 16:32
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• 16:34
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• 16:36
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• 16:40
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• 16:43
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• 16:45
  Speaker 2: hopefully sooner rather than later. Someone on the street who
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: could come in and play was much younger than Zach,
• 16:50
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• 16:54
  Speaker 2: ran off the offense. Now, Greg Cosell told us Wicks
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: actually was a very good blocker coming from Green Bay.
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: So formationally, they have to get him out there to
• 17:05
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• 17:17
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• 17:20
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• 17:23
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  Speaker 2: And they're on a short week and Chris Schull and
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  Speaker 2: the Rams come in who are smarting from an awful
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  Speaker 2: loss on some crazy, somewhat correct penalties. But that's going
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: to be tough, but at least they're home on Sunday.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: Hurts has three interceptions. We've talked about this before. I'm
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: willing to trade interceptions for a more downfield, aggressive approach,
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: as long as they're not just really bad interceptions, but
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: The one against the Titans was a bad one. Well,
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: he threw two, right?
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: The first one was bad.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: One of them got hit. I got no issue with that.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: He got hit. It happens. You're trying to drive the ball.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: That's one of those examples. But the one that he
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: threw to TJ Monday night against the Bears was unfortunate,
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: especially because that was the same exact look that had
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: happened two drives earlier where he almost threw an interception.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: To T.J. Edwards.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: He threw a line drive to his hands up here.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. He's thinking that it's a blitzer, not a dropper,
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: and he's.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: Trying to throw it to the spot. In this game,
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: Chicago did a much better job of what the Titans
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: and Commandos couldn't do. Because Hertz was so good throwing
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: in the middle of the field. Well, Chicago changed the
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: picture post-snap. And getting that muddied look, Now, whether they've
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: got to get the screen game involved, if they're taken
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: away from Hurts, he's got to get rid of the football.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: They've got to get someone else breaking in. They've just
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: got to change this because now Chris Shull and the
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: Rams defense coordinator sees this. Oh, this is giving him problems.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: Guess what we're going to do? Yeah. We might rush
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: three and drop eight. They're going to do something because
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: Hurts was so phenomenal in the first two games. teams adjust.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: Dennis Allen, I'll give the guy credit. We talked about
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: this in the pregame. They're not a very talented defense,
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: but they execute really, really well, and he's a phenomenal
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: defensive coordinator, and he's solid in this game.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they play hard, too. They play hard, they play fast.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: You're right. They're not great, but they play to the whistle,
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: as you saw with the late hit there on Jalen Hurts,
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: which it was a late hit, but he really did
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: get him into the shoulder not the head and it
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: was as hurts was stepping out i'm not making an
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: excuse it should have been a penalty and it was
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: uh nick got crazy with it he admitted after the
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: game he got a little too crazy i think he
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: was yelling at the player calling him names which is
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: like how often you thought you're a head coach dude
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: like let your players do that you can defend your
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: players you don't have to go across the line but
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: it's nick so he does uh but yeah Yeah.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: If you hear, if you heard him after the game,
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: he contradicts himself. He goes, I know I shouldn't do that,
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: but I'm trying to protect my players.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: It keeps going back and forth. He's, he's kind of
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: talking him as he's saying it.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: He's like, yeah, you know, I shouldn't have done that,
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: but I got to protect my players. He keeps going
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: back and forth. Yeah. There's a way to do it.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: And again, we're not going to repeat.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: It's funny.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: Cause it's out in social media that the, the, the
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: aggregators were transcribing what he was saying. It's pretty, pretty
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: actually funny. Yeah. Yeah. But anyway. All right.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: Defensively.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: So we did talk about the fact that these kind
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: of offenses are giving Nick Fianjo a little bit of issue.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: So we've already covered that. The safety thing is interesting, right?
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: Because Epps played. He missed the tackle on the opening
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: series and then was part of the gang of guys
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: who missed the tackle on Luther Burden for the touchdown.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: Michael Carter comes in.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Michael Carter comes in, and at the time, you
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: think he saves the day, right? This is the next
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: drive where then he tackles Colston Loveland at the one-yard line.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: They originally called a touchdown. Replay shows that Carter makes
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: a nice tackle on him with his elbow down at
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: the one, and then they don't get the touchdown because
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: what did they do? They threw the interception in the
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: end zone? I forget how. They turned the ball over there.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: At that point. So it was looking like, all right,
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: this is good, but he's clearly working it through with this.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: No, no interception.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: No, no.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: They, they Q made the deflection.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's right. That's what it was. It should have
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: been that man. You talk about, listen, I love, we, we,
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: we think Q is great. He's an all pro. You
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: want to be DPO. Why you got to get picks.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: That was an opportunity to take that one back.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: His, his knock in college. He had one knock. It was,
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: it really wasn't his own, his own man thing. Cause
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: he didn't really play man. That was not a problem.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: So I was told, The big problem is he had
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: terrible hands. He'd fight the football. He just had bad
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: hands in college. But you love the makeup, the mental toughness,
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: the talent, the length. He's an incredibly talented guy, one
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: of the top five corners of the football, maybe three,
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: but doesn't have good hands. And it's just, it is
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: a little hard to believe that I'm a turnover in
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: the first three games, but I give, as we will
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: finish this off with defense, I give Ben Johnson credit.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: I talked about it 10 minutes ago or so. They
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: came in with what they thought in coverage they would get,
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: and they got it. They didn't have– came in and
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: did a lot of seven-step drops. He doesn't have a
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: big arm, but I'll tell you what, his intermediate throws
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: are phenomenal. Yeah. On time, on target. Ball location was
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: really good, and they got it out of his hands quickly,
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: and they just couldn't get to him. That's how you
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: negate– I'm sure Vic will talk about it– play the
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: quick game. But, again, you see what they're doing, adjust
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: to it, and disrupt their timing. They don't do anything
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: to disrupt timing, nothing.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: Correct. And listen, I tip my cap to Keenum, but
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: to your point, like the throw that he made with
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: Jalex Hunt barreling down on him where off his back
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: foot across his body, he kind of let it float
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: in the air towards the timeline. I forgot who caught it.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: But when he did that, Adam, I thought, the guy's
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: on a heater, man.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: I know. His accuracy was crazy.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: But again, muddy it a little bit. It's just very vanilla.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: Let me ask you this question. What are you more
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: disappointed in after three games of defense or the offense?
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: It's kind of a tough question, but we do have
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: the two and one, but they don't feel like it.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I think it's a good question. I would
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: say the defense, because at least the offense has an
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: excuse of a having some injuries up front, um, be
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: learning a new offense, new scheme, you know, no AJ Brown,
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: new wider. So it's going through the growing pains right
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: now of trying to change his identity. This defense has
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: all pros at every level. It's supposed to be hit
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: the ground type running, uh, There was all this comfort
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: in the scheme that we talked about with Vic Fangio.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: So maybe you'll see some different things. And by the way,
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: you did see, he threw a cornerback blitz, a recall
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: and blitzing off the edge. Yeah. Yeah. He tried like, listen,
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to, Vic's not untouchable, but he also
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: did blitz, I think 10 times. And it just, whatever
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: it did, didn't work. I'd say he tried some to
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: do some different things. But, yeah, I thought the defense–
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: I had way higher expectations for this defense. I think
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: Jalen Carter we've talked about. He did not get interior
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: pressure against the Bears, and he has not really been
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: an interior force on defense outside of the block kick
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: on special teams.
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: That was big.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: But he hasn't been a force. There's been no turnovers.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: That's surprising to me. I know they come in bunches,
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: but I also think on key second and third downs
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: for three weeks– quarterbacks have had too much time to
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: throw to begin with yep yeah they just there have
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: been some good moments i'm not going to say the
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: eagles have just completely faltered at rushing the quarterback they've
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: had some good moments certainly jayden daniels was on the
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: run a lot but all together when you're facing two
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: bad teams and one team on his third string quarterback
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: you really need to have at least one turnover i
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: mean that's that's almost that's very surprising.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: So a couple notes on the snap counts. Shipley out-snapped Bigsby.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: Bigsby had a bad fumble.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he got punished.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: That hurt him. Bigsby only played two snaps. Shipley was
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: more or less their third down back. He had 13 snaps.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: Remember, Bigsby put the ball on the ground. Was it
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: against the Titans or Commanders 2? And he was able
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: to recover it, but he put the ball on the
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: ground once before this year.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: I mean, they put the defense at tough predicament.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: For sure.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: Elijah Moore played six. Hollywood Brown was hurt. He had
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: the ankle injury. Unfortunately, they could have used him. They're
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: still playing a lot of 11 personnel because of Lemon.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: And Lemon did more in this game, but he needs
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: to be more impactful in the short area because when
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: you spend a first-round pick on a slot receiver, he's
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: got to control the middle, short area and the middle.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: And that's something they have to do with him. But again,
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: he's only played three games. Yeah. So I thought that
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: was interesting. Ertz, again, played 19 snaps, but 38% of
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: the snaps. They only had 50 on offense. They got
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: ball control. The Bears pass a game control, not the
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: run game. That's the bizarre thing. I never would have
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: predicted that coming into the game. No way you could.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: That's the long-term concern. If these teams have to meet
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: in the playoffs, the concern is that the Bears and
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: Ben Johnson have figured out how to beat Vic Fangio's
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: defense twice in two different ways. OK, so they have
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: that mental advantage saying you want to take this away.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: We can do that. You want to take that. And
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: next time we meet you, we might actually have our
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: starting quarterback. So we'll see about that. But I mean,
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: I just think that that's there's a little bit of
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: a mental advantage there for the Bears being able to
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: beat them in two different ways. Yes.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: And on defense, this is another one that surprised me. Now,
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: part of it is because I'm sure it's because of
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: they wanted to slow down. They did Chicago's run game.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: Davis outstapped. out snapped a Jomo only by three Davis
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: had 42 snaps, 58% of the snaps or Jomo 39, 54%. Uh,
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: Ebiketi played a lot or Ebiketi. I'm sorry. That's how
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: you pronounce it. 40% of the snaps, 29 snaps overall,
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: And Epson, Carter, they almost split. Epson, 27 snaps. Carter, 20. Epson, 38%. Carter, 28%.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: Grenard did have 18 snaps, 25% of the snaps. And
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: I did notice Ty Robinson, and he got 12 snaps
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: in this game. And Trott Jr. got six snaps on defense.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: Okay. Okay. Interesting as Vic is trying to figure out
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: the right formulas there. You know, I look at this
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: and let's put a bow on this here. It's one loss.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: It's not, it's not the worst thing in the world.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: Do have a little bit of a gauntlet still remaining
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: there here with the Rams on short week. Right. And
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: then the Jaguars after that, I get the feeling they'll
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: win at least one of those two Adam. I mean,
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to sit here and go, Oh, they
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: lost this game against the bears. So now they're, they're terrible.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: It's not going to be easy, but I feel like
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: they'll get one of those two. We'll see. let's say
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: even if they lost all two and you're two and three,
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: I mean, you have a nice little four game stretch
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: before the buy of Panthers, Cowboys, commanders, giants. So you
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: should be able to win at least, at least two,
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: if not three or all four of those. And then
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: the second half will be interesting because that, at that
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: point coming out of the buy week 11, you will have,
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: you will expect, we'll be talking about this offense now
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: is not in training wheels. It's time to, stop existing
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: in second and third and long. It's time to have
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: a harmony fluidity from kickoff to finish. And then you'll
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: see the Steelers Cowboys. I mean, the Cardinals are nothing great,
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: but the Colts Seahawks Texans Niners, John, you know, the
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: teams by the second half of the season that you
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: expect to be pretty good will probably be good. And
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: the Eagles will have to be better fundamentally at what
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: they do.
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  Speaker 2: They got two major West coast teams coming up here.
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  Speaker 2: You've got, you've got Rams and McVay. Because he sees
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  Speaker 2: what he just saw. And he sees the spacing that
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  Speaker 2: the defense has given up. And then you've got Liam Cohen.
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  Speaker 2: And by the way, they are super loaded in past
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  Speaker 2: target group. Super loaded. They're one of the deepest. Parker Washington.
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  Speaker 2: People play fantasy know he's. We are. He was like
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  Speaker 2: the breakout year for everybody. And he's having one. And
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  Speaker 2: then Jacoby Marsh, good slot. And Brian Thomas. And Brenton
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  Speaker 2: Strange out of Penn State is becoming a really good
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  Speaker 2: tight end. They've got a big contract extension.
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  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 2: Their run game is okay with Tootin, but they're really loaded.
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  Speaker 2: They're really good. And this is going to be interesting.
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  Speaker 2: These next two games are fascinating. Honestly, if they're one-on-one
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  Speaker 2: out of this one, I'd be happy. Sure. Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It's a tough thing. And the Eagles are a great
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  Speaker 2: road team. We know that. But it's interesting. Best road
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  Speaker 2: record by far in the National Football League since Sirianni
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  Speaker 2: came in is the Eagles. But it's well below 500.
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  Speaker 2: Not a lot of Monday night games, but they're bad
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  Speaker 2: on Monday night for some reason. It's hard to explain.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm interested to see what their corrections are. I'm
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  Speaker 2: interested to see what they look like against the Rams.
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  Speaker 2: And Rams having to play at 1 o'clock Eastern on Sunday,
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  Speaker 2: I'll never understand that one, why it's not 4 o'clock.
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  Speaker 2: It's one of the few things we don't know why.
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  Speaker 2: But that's it. So they are 2-1. The NFC East
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  Speaker 2: is terrible overall. Washington's destroyed by injury. Giant season's over.
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  Speaker 2: I know they're 2-1, but my goodness gracious. Quarterback's done.
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  Speaker 2: Best pass rusher's done. They're a disaster. And the Cowboys choked.
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  Speaker 2: As Jason Avant would say, Cowboys are going to Cowboy. Boy,
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  Speaker 2: did they Cowboy. Our friend Christian Parker's struggling. He's struggling, man.
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  Speaker 2: Their defense is really bad.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. And some coaching decisions by Brian Schottenheimer at
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  Speaker 1: the end of that game certainly did not help. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 1: So that is the, that's, that's going to do it
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  Speaker 1: for this. We've we've listened. Oh, I think we already
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  Speaker 1: mentioned it, but I'm going to say one more time
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  Speaker 1: before first and foremost, anything got to fix the penalties.
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  Speaker 1: You cannot have 10 penalties.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: You got to be fundamentally better. And that's what the
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  Speaker 1: Eagles will have to work on along with the other
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  Speaker 1: stuff that we talked about. That's going to do it
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