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- 0:11Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Welcome to the Large ner Dron Collider podcast,
- 0:14Speaker 1: the podcast that's all about the geeky things happening in
- 0:16Speaker 1: the world around us and how very excited we are
- 0:19Speaker 1: about them. I'm Ariel Castied, and with me, as always,
- 0:22Speaker 1: is the ever patient Jonathan Strue.
- 0:24Speaker 2: I'm so excited and I just can't hide it. And
- 0:27Speaker 2: I also can't say why I'm so excited.
- 0:30Speaker 1: It's because you watched Save by the Bell, the episode
- 0:32Speaker 1: where Jesse takes the caffeine bills.
- 0:34Speaker 2: It is not that, although I would be excited to
- 0:37Speaker 2: do that. I also am excited that Brenda the show
- 0:39Speaker 2: shay Lee, who clearly loves me very much, late last night,
- 0:44Speaker 2: sent me a video on Facebook that was the actors
- 0:49Speaker 2: from Teen Witch talking about the Top That Wrap sequence.
- 0:53Speaker 2: I'm like, this is true love, this is true love
- 0:56Speaker 2: that she sent me this video, because I mean, I
- 1:00Speaker 2: remember when that movie came out, and I remember when
- 1:02Speaker 2: Top That was like possibly the most awkward thing I
- 1:07Speaker 2: had ever seen on television until Jesse saying I'm so excited.
- 1:11Speaker 1: I'm so scared, delightful, delightful. I'm excited too, because we're
- 1:18Speaker 1: going to sing together this weekend.
- 1:20Speaker 2: We are we're gonna do karaoke. So yeah, I occasionally
- 1:25Speaker 2: get together with my friends and we do karaoke. And
- 1:29Speaker 2: here's the problem is that all of my friends are
- 1:31Speaker 2: amazing singers and I am not. But luckily they're very,
- 1:36Speaker 2: very very kind to me. And so yeah, we're gonna
- 1:40Speaker 2: have a get together on Saturday night. We're recording this
- 1:43Speaker 2: on Friday, and hopefully we'll get it out on Friday,
- 1:47Speaker 2: but we're definitely recording it then. And yeah, I'm hoping
- 1:50Speaker 2: that we can have lots of fun singing. The nice
- 1:53Speaker 2: thing is we go to a place where you can
- 1:54Speaker 2: get one of those private karaoke rooms, and that means
- 1:58Speaker 2: we can sing whatever we want. There's no danger of irritating,
- 2:02Speaker 2: you know, like a crowd who's like, I didn't come
- 2:04Speaker 2: here to listen to Broadway show tunes. Gosh darn it.
- 2:07Speaker 1: Yeah, I haven't been there in forever. I have no
- 2:09Speaker 1: idea what their current Broadway songbook contains. It's it's certainly
- 2:14Speaker 1: not it's near what our friend's book contains.
- 2:17Speaker 2: No, but I mean our friend will be there too.
- 2:19Speaker 2: And I believe that they also have built in where
- 2:22Speaker 2: you can actually connect your phone to the system and
- 2:27Speaker 2: use YouTube if you don't, you know, find it in
- 2:30Speaker 2: the library. I think I think they have that capability.
- 2:34Speaker 2: It's hard for me. I've gone to a couple different
- 2:37Speaker 2: places and some of them have that and some of
- 2:39Speaker 2: them don't. But yeah, our friend is a karaoke DJ
- 2:44Speaker 2: also a great singer, and he's going to be there
- 2:47Speaker 2: and he he has an incredible thorough library of songs.
- 2:52Speaker 2: H But yeah, it's funny because the last few times
- 2:55Speaker 2: we've gone, I mean, there's always someone who will sing
- 2:59Speaker 2: like a song or two from a musical, but for
- 3:01Speaker 2: the most part, we've gravitated more toward other genres, Like
- 3:06Speaker 2: we didn't do as much musical theater stuff the last
- 3:09Speaker 2: time we were there. But there's no telling. Maybe this
- 3:13Speaker 2: will end up being returned to forum. But yeah, that's cool.
- 3:18Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to seeing everybody and singing with everyone tomorrow.
- 3:23Speaker 2: Yeah me too.
- 3:24Speaker 1: I'm super excited as well. So we have this is
- 3:29Speaker 1: once again. I thought this was going to be a
- 3:31Speaker 1: very short episode week, so we brought our top our
- 3:35Speaker 1: discussion topic over but it may not be. But we
- 3:42Speaker 1: have to talk about our discussion topic because our mashups
- 3:44Speaker 1: also go with it.
- 3:47Speaker 2: Yeah, so our discussion topic is about and we've brought
- 3:52Speaker 2: this up on the show before, but about fake trailers,
- 3:56Speaker 2: movie trailers where it's a movie trailer that's been cut
- 3:59Speaker 2: together by somebody, or it's you know, it's done in
- 4:02Speaker 2: a movie trailer's style, but it's cut together by someone
- 4:06Speaker 2: usually taking footage from multiple projects and merging them together
- 4:11Speaker 2: to create the semblance of a movie trailer, but in
- 4:14Speaker 2: fact there is no such movie, or there is a
- 4:18Speaker 2: real movie that's coming out, but no trailer has been
- 4:20Speaker 2: released yet. And Ariel came across I think it was you.
- 4:25Speaker 2: Was it you that came across the article?
- 4:28Speaker 1: I don't know, well one of us, I don't remember.
- 4:31Speaker 2: We It was on Hollywood Reporter, which is a site
- 4:33Speaker 2: that both of us use quite a bit when we
- 4:35Speaker 2: are looking into stories for the show. And the story
- 4:40Speaker 2: itself was about a fake movie trailer. This one, in particular,
- 4:45Speaker 2: was put together by a YouTube channel called kh Studio
- 4:48Speaker 2: that does this a lot, that used some AI manipulation
- 4:54Speaker 2: to make a fake trailer for a fake James Bond
- 4:57Speaker 2: film starring Henry Cavill and Margo Robbie, and that you know,
- 5:03Speaker 2: it racked up a lot of views, and a lot
- 5:04Speaker 2: of those views were from people who thought it was
- 5:07Speaker 2: a legitimate trailer. And I was like, yeah, let's talk
- 5:10Speaker 2: about this. Because as I do research for the show,
- 5:17Speaker 2: one thing I frequently do is I will go on
- 5:19Speaker 2: YouTube and I will just search the term trailer and
- 5:25Speaker 2: I'll filter it by time, Right, Like I'll say, like,
- 5:28Speaker 2: show me videos that have the word trailer in them
- 5:31Speaker 2: from the last seven days or whatever, And without fail,
- 5:36Speaker 2: some of the videos that pop up are these these
- 5:39Speaker 2: fan made or concept or as I call them, big
- 5:43Speaker 2: lion fake trailers.
- 5:46Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, do we want to talk about that now
- 5:48Speaker 1: or do we want to hold off and go through
- 5:50Speaker 1: everything else.
- 5:50Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about it now. Let's discuss it now,
- 5:53Speaker 2: and then we'll do thirty seconds or less because we
- 5:54Speaker 2: haven't had a discussion topic in a long time on
- 5:58Speaker 2: this show.
- 5:58Speaker 1: I mean, we talked about a lot of things last week.
- 6:01Speaker 1: We were long winded. But yeah, so here's the thing.
- 6:06Speaker 1: I I like being creat people being creative with the
- 6:10Speaker 1: properties that they like. Right, We've gotten some amazing like
- 6:13Speaker 1: Power Rangers, Immortal Kombat type content, Fresh Princes type content
- 6:19Speaker 1: by people making fan videos. I love fan videos. Batman
- 6:23Speaker 1: has some amazing fan videos.
- 6:26Speaker 2: Yeah, like Batman versus predator.
- 6:28Speaker 1: Yeah. But the problem comes is when you're like new trailer,
- 6:34Speaker 1: you're saying that specifically to make people think that it's
- 6:38Speaker 1: a legitimate thing and not a fan thing, and like
- 6:45Speaker 1: that the lie, the lie is the thing I have
- 6:47Speaker 1: an issue with. I would watch a fan trailer. I
- 6:49Speaker 1: watch lots of fan trailers or lots of fan made content.
- 6:52Speaker 2: Did you ever see this was years and years ago.
- 6:55Speaker 2: This was like early days of YouTube, not super early,
- 6:59Speaker 2: but like YouTube have been around for a little bit,
- 7:01Speaker 2: but not that long. Do you remember the fan trailer
- 7:07Speaker 2: slash kind of digital portfolio project Grayson.
- 7:12Speaker 1: Yes, Like that's amazing.
- 7:14Speaker 2: That's the one I think of. I'm like Grayson. That
- 7:16Speaker 2: was like it was one of those things that people
- 7:19Speaker 2: were convinced, oh, is this an actual movie. I can't
- 7:22Speaker 2: wait for this to come out, and then you'd say, no, no,
- 7:24Speaker 2: this is it. That's all there is. There is no film,
- 7:26Speaker 2: and Grayson was this fan made creation. It was really
- 7:31Speaker 2: to show off filmmaking and editing techniques. It was like
- 7:35Speaker 2: a portfolio project, but it was set in the DC universe,
- 7:40Speaker 2: and it's set in the world that has like like
- 7:45Speaker 2: Batman's been apparently killed. Superman is a sort of a threat,
- 7:51Speaker 2: kind of like in the Frank Miller version of Batman,
- 7:55Speaker 2: Catwoman is overacting her socks off. Most of the performance
- 8:00Speaker 2: are like cartoonish but within the realm of DC. But
- 8:04Speaker 2: Catwoman is a little over the top even for this.
- 8:08Speaker 2: But yeah, it was this kind of like kitchen sink approach,
- 8:13Speaker 2: and people got really excited because they're like, oh, all
- 8:15Speaker 2: these characters that I love, like Green Lantern was shown
- 8:18Speaker 2: in it, Wonder Woman, Penguin, Joker, the Riddler, like there
- 8:22Speaker 2: were so many different characters. Everyone was so excited, and
- 8:26Speaker 2: then it turned out, oh, well, this was to showcase
- 8:29Speaker 2: this filmmaker's talents, but there is no movie that is
- 8:33Speaker 2: the project, just the trailer.
- 8:36Speaker 1: And that again totally fine. I love stuff like that.
- 8:39Speaker 1: Just make it. And I realized that the reason why
- 8:42Speaker 1: you're like, oh, this is a new trailers because you
- 8:44Speaker 1: want people to click on it. You want the views,
- 8:45Speaker 1: right Yeah, And if you're like, this is a fan
- 8:48Speaker 1: trailer I made, there's a good handful of people who
- 8:51Speaker 1: are not going to watch it.
- 8:52Speaker 2: But right, if you present it as if it's the
- 8:55Speaker 2: legitimate thing, then you're going to get a lot more clicks.
- 8:58Speaker 2: But at the same time, it feels like a It
- 9:00Speaker 2: feels like you're being tricked right when you click into it.
- 9:03Speaker 2: So Cage Studio and Screen Culture in particular, those two
- 9:08Speaker 2: channels are really prolific, and I would say bad about
- 9:14Speaker 2: doing this Occasionally. You will see in the brief description
- 9:18Speaker 2: underneath the video title, this is our first look concept
- 9:23Speaker 2: at blah blah blah, And I'm like, Okay, at least
- 9:26Speaker 2: there there's the actual acknowledgement that this is a concept
- 9:31Speaker 2: trailer that they have created. But not all of them,
- 9:35Speaker 2: do some of them. It's just like, you know, trailer
- 9:37Speaker 2: for the first look at Thunderbolts. That's what I've seen
- 9:41Speaker 2: a few times, right, And then you look and you're like,
- 9:44Speaker 2: there's no acknowledgement in the short form description. It might
- 9:48Speaker 2: be buried longer in the full description, but in the
- 9:52Speaker 2: part that shows up just in search results, it doesn't
- 9:55Speaker 2: say anything. You click on it and you're like, this
- 9:59Speaker 2: is all foot from either previous Marvel movies or sometimes
- 10:03Speaker 2: films that the actors were in, but have no connection
- 10:06Speaker 2: whatsoever to the actual Marvel films. And I get irrationally
- 10:14Speaker 2: angry about it.
- 10:16Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, me too, Because sometimes it is hard to tell,
- 10:20Speaker 1: especially if it's one of if it's a property that
- 10:22Speaker 1: like you're not super familiar with, you know, and they
- 10:27Speaker 1: pull clips. If it's a Marvel thing, I can usually
- 10:30Speaker 1: like in the first five to ten seconds go, no,
- 10:32Speaker 1: this is this is a fake because I recognize the content, right,
- 10:35Speaker 1: I've seen most Marvel stuff. But yeah, especially for some
- 10:40Speaker 1: of the movies that I'm excited about that don't really
- 10:42Speaker 1: have predecessors, it's it's harder to tell. So now I'm like, oh,
- 10:47Speaker 1: there's a trailer out let me look for the trailer
- 10:50Speaker 1: released by the actual studio, and if I can't find it,
- 10:54Speaker 1: ninety five percent likely it's a fake.
- 10:57Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, if it's I mean, if it's something like
- 10:59Speaker 2: a legitimate journalism outlet, Like I mean, it's hard to
- 11:04Speaker 2: say Entertainment Tonight is a legitimate journalism, but you know,
- 11:07Speaker 2: Entertainment Tonight is a known quantity. It's not going to
- 11:10Speaker 2: They're not going to knowingly push out a fake trailer
- 11:14Speaker 2: unless it's like April Fool's Day or something and they
- 11:17Speaker 2: just getting sassy with it. But otherwise, like those sorts
- 11:22Speaker 2: of things I can get away, I can get around.
- 11:23Speaker 2: I'm like, Okay, this is probably legit. But usually I'm
- 11:27Speaker 2: the same way Ariel. I want to look for the studio,
- 11:30Speaker 2: like I want to see is it Disney? Is it
- 11:32Speaker 2: Marvel because they publish on separate channels. Is it Warner Brothers?
- 11:38Speaker 2: Is it Sony? Like who is it that's playing this video?
- 11:41Speaker 2: Because if it's Cage Studio or Screen Culture pretty much
- 11:45Speaker 2: can guarantee it's not a real trailer.
- 11:48Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And I will say, like I I was
- 11:52Speaker 1: torn because Hollywood Reporter has a link to the trailer
- 11:56Speaker 1: that Cage Studio made. And on the one hand, again
- 11:58Speaker 1: I like fan stuff if you want to if you
- 12:00Speaker 1: want to showcase your artistic creativity, that's fine. On the
- 12:04Speaker 1: other hand, I don't like that when I click on
- 12:06Speaker 1: I says new trailer for James Bond whatever. And then
- 12:09Speaker 1: also they used a bunch of ai, which I think
- 12:14Speaker 1: there are responsible uses for it, but right now it's
- 12:16Speaker 1: still very like super touchy.
- 12:20Speaker 2: If it makes you feel any better, they did.
- 12:22Speaker 1: A really bad job with it, Okay, that's that does
- 12:26Speaker 1: make me feel better, because like, yeah, I don't know. Also,
- 12:31Speaker 1: I'm I'm excited. I like. I like Henry cavill a lot.
- 12:35Speaker 1: I think he's a great actor. I think he plays
- 12:37Speaker 1: serious and he also is an amazing comedic actor who
- 12:39Speaker 1: doesn't get to do enough comedy, and a geek, which
- 12:42Speaker 1: is awesome. I haven't met him, but that's at least
- 12:45Speaker 1: his public persona. But I'm more excited about the other
- 12:50Speaker 1: people that we're potentially getting as James Bond. Yeah, like
- 12:54Speaker 1: Aaron Taylor Johnson, right, yeah.
- 12:55Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, and I mean you could tell immediately that
- 12:59Speaker 2: this was a fake because it's Henry Cavill doing an
- 13:01Speaker 2: American accent. Why the heck would you have Henry Cavill
- 13:06Speaker 2: doing an American accent for James freaking Bond, the British.
- 13:11Speaker 1: Spy Listen, listen, Well, if it was a Southern accent,
- 13:14Speaker 1: I'd say, because right now on TikTok, there's this big
- 13:16Speaker 1: trend about people just realizing that Shakespeare sounds really good
- 13:21Speaker 1: in Southern dialect.
- 13:23Speaker 2: Like Appalachian.
- 13:24Speaker 1: Yeah, Appalachian. Even though Jake I don't remember his name,
- 13:28Speaker 1: but he's a voiceover actor and he's amazing, So.
- 13:33Speaker 2: Now you're looking him up. Vamp, I'll vamp. So yeah.
- 13:37Speaker 2: The theory is that in Shakespeare's time, Elizabethan English sounded
- 13:44Speaker 2: a lot closer to what you can hear in parts
- 13:47Speaker 2: of Appalachia as opposed to the modern English accent, so
- 13:52Speaker 2: that if you were to travel into like the Blue
- 13:55Speaker 2: Ridge Mountains or the Smoky Mountains, you would counter communities
- 14:01Speaker 2: that would have an accent closer to what you would
- 14:03Speaker 2: have heard if you were in Shakespeare's London.
- 14:06Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, so Jake Phillips, he's I discovered him on TikTok.
- 14:11Speaker 1: But he's a really great voice actor who reads a
- 14:13Speaker 1: lot of like poetry and classic literature, does a bunch
- 14:17Speaker 1: of Shakespeare in a Southern dialect. He's been doing it
- 14:20Speaker 1: for years now, as far as I can tell. And
- 14:23Speaker 1: you know, so when when it showed up on after
- 14:25Speaker 1: Midnight of like, oh, everybody's just figuring out that Shakespeare
- 14:28Speaker 1: sounds good in Southern I'm like, well, I knew that
- 14:30Speaker 1: since I did Shakespeare when I was a teenager. And
- 14:33Speaker 1: also this isn't a super new trend.
- 14:35Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, the scholarship about the sound of
- 14:39Speaker 2: the language has been around for decades because I remember
- 14:44Speaker 2: studying it when I was in college, which was only
- 14:46Speaker 2: shortly after Shakespeare himself died, So it's a it's not
- 14:52Speaker 2: new information, but yeah, it was still it didn't sound southern.
- 14:55Speaker 2: It was just Henry Cavill speaking in a bog standard
- 14:59Speaker 2: mid Atlanta, not mid Atlantic, but you know, like Eastern
- 15:02Speaker 2: seaboard kind of Transatlantic. Not Transatlantic. No, that would sound
- 15:06Speaker 2: well like this. No, he was just speaking of saying, yeah,
- 15:12Speaker 2: I'd stake my pilitz on it. No, he was just
- 15:15Speaker 2: giving just a regular old uh, like what we would
- 15:19Speaker 2: consider unaccented American English, right, like your very standard American accent.
- 15:24Speaker 2: And then also for as far as the AI goes,
- 15:28Speaker 2: there was a bit where it was clearly AI manipulation
- 15:30Speaker 2: of Margo Robbie's mouth so that it would kind of
- 15:34Speaker 2: match what the voiceover was saying, but it doesn't really
- 15:38Speaker 2: like the lips don't move properly in time, So it
- 15:42Speaker 2: is a little you're giving me a look, Ariel, like
- 15:45Speaker 2: you're kind of schewed out by it. I will say
- 15:48Speaker 2: it did have a bit of a horror movie feel
- 15:50Speaker 2: to it, just because you're like, well, that's not right.
- 15:54Speaker 1: I'm just having flashbacks to Henry Cavill in Justice League
- 15:56Speaker 1: with the whole like mustache, the fake upper lip. Yeah,
- 16:00Speaker 1: it was. It was. I made an audible what the
- 16:04Speaker 1: heck noise in the theater when I was watching Justice Leek.
- 16:08Speaker 2: Well, I mean you could have been doing that for
- 16:10Speaker 2: the whole movie, but uh yeah, I was not. I
- 16:16Speaker 2: have really not liked this trend of the concept trailers
- 16:21Speaker 2: at all because I do feel that they are on
- 16:25Speaker 2: the whole deceptive. I don't feel like they are presented
- 16:29Speaker 2: in good faith because I agree with you that if
- 16:32Speaker 2: it was something where it was very clearly labeled as
- 16:35Speaker 2: a concept or a fan made trailer, that to me
- 16:40Speaker 2: is a very different story than just presenting it as
- 16:42Speaker 2: if it's the real, legit deal. And you know me, Ariel, like,
- 16:49Speaker 2: we've had discussions about this, not even about entertainment, about
- 16:52Speaker 2: how I get very angry at people who are trying
- 16:55Speaker 2: to deceive others. There was a time years ago when
- 17:00Speaker 2: we were looking at a company to see about whether
- 17:04Speaker 2: or not it would be a particularly good employer. One
- 17:06Speaker 2: of us was looking for employment, and the two of
- 17:08Speaker 2: us together were looking into these different companies that were
- 17:12Speaker 2: reaching out, and we were realizing, Hey, this supposed company
- 17:17Speaker 2: is using a website that has been used in like
- 17:20Speaker 2: six other cities with identical layouts and pictures, but different
- 17:25Speaker 2: addresses and slightly different wording. It's a scam, and it
- 17:29Speaker 2: gets me so angry every time.
- 17:31Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, same. Same. With that being said, we've kind
- 17:35Speaker 1: of for a mashups today, written our own concept trailers,
- 17:39Speaker 1: so that'll be fun and exciting.
- 17:40Speaker 2: Yeah, in mind, I ended up not going the trailer route.
- 17:43Speaker 2: I just wrote a movie. But it's okay. Actually, really,
- 17:46Speaker 2: I didn't even write a movie. I wrote a ranting,
- 17:51Speaker 2: curmudgeonly old man review of one of the two films.
- 17:56Speaker 2: And you'll understand when we get there.
- 17:58Speaker 1: I wrote, to stupid movie trailer.
- 18:01Speaker 2: That's great, though, you understood the assignment and I and
- 18:05Speaker 2: I went off the I went off the rails.
- 18:08Speaker 1: Yeah, but understanding and executing the assignment are two different things.
- 18:12Speaker 1: It was like, I had this idea, I thought it
- 18:13Speaker 1: was brilliant, and then I was like, well, this is
- 18:16Speaker 1: a lot harder.
- 18:17Speaker 2: Than I thought.
- 18:17Speaker 1: But that's that's for future. So did you watch anything
- 18:21Speaker 1: geeky other than this horrible fan trailer this week?
- 18:24Speaker 2: I did. I saw Late Night with the Devil came
- 18:29Speaker 2: to streaming, so I thought, well, I'm gonna watch this.
- 18:31Speaker 2: That's the movie that is set in the late nineteen
- 18:34Speaker 2: seventies at a late night talk show and and and
- 18:41Speaker 2: then the debill shows up or a demon shows up
- 18:44Speaker 2: and hijinx en Sue, and I want to say I
- 18:49Speaker 2: liked it. It's complicated though, because I went into it
- 18:53Speaker 2: thinking it was one thing and it was not that thing,
- 18:57Speaker 2: which is I would maybe it's on me, but it's
- 18:59Speaker 2: also I think part of the marketing. I went into
- 19:02Speaker 2: it thinking it was gonna be like a dark comedy
- 19:07Speaker 2: horror film, like there's gonna be more comedy in it,
- 19:11Speaker 2: maybe not like haha comedy, but humor. There's really very
- 19:16Speaker 2: little of that at all. There's a bit, but not much.
- 19:20Speaker 2: It's really more like playing up tropes about like the
- 19:25Speaker 2: competitive nature of late night television and the pressures that
- 19:29Speaker 2: are on this particular host as he's trying desperately to
- 19:33Speaker 2: rake in a lot of views during sweeps week. That's
- 19:37Speaker 2: the fact that he's having these guests who are claiming
- 19:41Speaker 2: paranormal abilities on the show. And it was more of
- 19:45Speaker 2: a straight up horror film than I anticipated. So for
- 19:48Speaker 2: that reason, I don't think I enjoyed it as much
- 19:50Speaker 2: as I was hoping I would. But again, you could
- 19:54Speaker 2: argue that's my fault for coming in with the wrong expectation.
- 19:58Speaker 2: I think it's also again the marketing, because the marketing
- 20:01Speaker 2: made it look a little more I don't know if
- 20:04Speaker 2: campy is the right word, but a little more comedic.
- 20:08Speaker 1: It looks slightly tongue in cheek.
- 20:10Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think it really is, though I don't
- 20:13Speaker 2: think ultimately it comes in, which is unfortunate because I
- 20:16Speaker 2: also don't think it goes quite hard enough to be
- 20:21Speaker 2: outright demonic possession horror. I don't think it's a bad
- 20:25Speaker 2: demonic possession horror movie, but I don't think it's one
- 20:29Speaker 2: of the best ones. I think it's somewhere in the
- 20:30Speaker 2: middle of the pack. I think the setting and the
- 20:35Speaker 2: high concept help it a little bit. I thought the
- 20:39Speaker 2: performances were great and I mostly enjoyed it. But maybe
- 20:47Speaker 2: I would have liked it more in the theater. That
- 20:49Speaker 2: might have been something that would have had a better effect.
- 20:52Speaker 2: But I didn't hate it. I liked it. I think
- 20:56Speaker 2: I need to see it again, honestly, like me.
- 20:59Speaker 1: With with bal Star Galactico, where I went in thinking
- 21:02Speaker 1: expecting one thing and I had to take myself out
- 21:05Speaker 1: of it for a bit and then go back with
- 21:07Speaker 1: fresh eyes.
- 21:08Speaker 2: Yeah, this new thing that it was that sounds pretty
- 21:10Speaker 2: much like my experience.
- 21:12Speaker 1: Yes, I get that I didn't watch much Geeky this week,
- 21:17Speaker 1: some more X Men, and then some so you think
- 21:19Speaker 1: you can dance, and then rewatching Fallout because I wasn't
- 21:23Speaker 1: sure if we were going to have a watch party,
- 21:24Speaker 1: but apparently we are. I will say watching Fallout this
- 21:28Speaker 1: closely together again, it is a different experience watching it
- 21:35Speaker 1: knowing what's going to happen. Still enjoyable, but completely different.
- 21:41Speaker 2: Interesting. And of course Ariel's also been busy in her
- 21:45Speaker 2: professional life, and she won't tell me what that is.
- 21:50Speaker 2: So yeah, from why I understands it's cool.
- 22:00Speaker 1: I mean, I am working on a really cool sci
- 22:02Speaker 1: fi web series right now.
- 22:03Speaker 2: That's awesome.
- 22:05Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it's a vaguely like it's like Indiana Jones
- 22:09Speaker 1: with aliens, kind of a little bit cool. Yeah, So
- 22:14Speaker 1: it's my It's it's gonna be interesting. I look forward
- 22:17Speaker 1: to watching it develop. It's been a lot of fun
- 22:20Speaker 1: working and rehearsing with the actors. We're doing a lot
- 22:23Speaker 1: of rehearsal because there's gonna be special effects and you
- 22:26Speaker 1: have to like know where they are. And this way
- 22:27Speaker 1: when we go to actually tape, we'll have it down
- 22:30Speaker 1: and it'll be a much quicker filming process.
- 22:32Speaker 2: Right right, You won't be like, oh, sorry, we need
- 22:35Speaker 2: you to you know, look about three degrees to your right.
- 22:37Speaker 2: You're like, uh, can you can you maybe word that away?
- 22:41Speaker 2: That makes sense to me? Well, I will share.
- 22:44Speaker 1: I will share that as information comes out about it.
- 22:48Speaker 1: You know, even even if it ends up being I'm
- 22:51Speaker 1: sure it'll be a wonderful project, but even if it
- 22:53Speaker 1: ends up being a little bit silly, I'll share it
- 22:54Speaker 1: because it's fun.
- 22:55Speaker 2: Well yeah, and I mean, like to me, it also
- 22:58Speaker 2: opens up this opportunity to talk about like what experiences
- 23:01Speaker 2: are like when you're doing this sort of thing. Like usually,
- 23:05Speaker 2: you know, when it comes to really hearing about what
- 23:09Speaker 2: the experience is like, you have to wait for behind
- 23:12Speaker 2: the scenes interviews or like special features on DVDs, and
- 23:16Speaker 2: even then you're like, well, this is something that's been
- 23:19Speaker 2: vetted through a studio, so like I don't know if
- 23:23Speaker 2: these stories are just like the legitimate things that were
- 23:26Speaker 2: going on, or if this is just the approved messaging
- 23:30Speaker 2: or whatever. So it's always fun to talk to someone
- 23:32Speaker 2: and just be like, so, yeah, what was your actual experience,
- 23:36Speaker 2: like what it was it fun? Was it a lot
- 23:39Speaker 2: of waiting for things and then rushing through and then
- 23:43Speaker 2: waiting again. Like in my experience, that's what filmmaking is.
- 23:47Speaker 1: But I mean sometimes it is. I have I have
- 23:50Speaker 1: spent on some independent stuff, long days sitting around waiting
- 23:54Speaker 1: for my turn to film, and that's fine, you know,
- 23:56Speaker 1: it gives me a chance to further develop the character.
- 23:59Speaker 1: There's a lot of prep work that goes into acting.
- 24:02Speaker 1: It's not just showing up on set and getting into
- 24:04Speaker 1: costume and jumping into it.
- 24:05Speaker 2: Sure, And of course filmmaking is such a hugely collaborative effort.
- 24:10Speaker 2: I mean it's like so many different people have absolutely
- 24:14Speaker 2: critical jobs to do in order for a film to work.
- 24:19Speaker 2: And yeah, like it's understandable when sometimes it takes time
- 24:24Speaker 2: for all those different pieces to be ready, right, Like
- 24:29Speaker 2: it'd be great if everyone was ready to go at
- 24:32Speaker 2: the same time. But that's just we all know, Like
- 24:35Speaker 2: you could test something thirty times the day before, and
- 24:39Speaker 2: then the day of the thing that worked thirty times
- 24:42Speaker 2: out of thirty it refuses to work and you just
- 24:44Speaker 2: have to figure out something different, And that's just the
- 24:46Speaker 2: way life is.
- 24:47Speaker 1: Yeah, And Jonathan, to be fair, like, if I ever
- 24:51Speaker 1: auditioned for and book a Marvel movie, for example, yes,
- 24:56Speaker 1: I probably would also have to vet my responses to
- 25:00Speaker 1: my experiences.
- 25:02Speaker 2: I mean, you say that, but now that I absolutely
- 25:06Speaker 2: know that it's one hundred confirmed that you're the new
- 25:09Speaker 2: Iron Man, I'm gonna have you give the insider looks
- 25:15Speaker 2: all the way through.
- 25:16Speaker 1: And that's how you get fired as Iron Man, unless
- 25:19Speaker 1: you're as cute as Tom Holland, which I am not,
- 25:21Speaker 1: because Tom Holland spoils a whole bunch of stuff apparently.
- 25:23Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, well, that's why they would always pair him
- 25:26Speaker 2: with someone else. It's like Mark Ruffalo, you have to
- 25:28Speaker 2: pair them with someone else who's there to be like
- 25:31Speaker 2: no Mark Ruffalo, no bad Mark Ruffalo, bad Tom Holland.
- 25:37Speaker 2: Let's be slapping my own hand.
- 25:39Speaker 1: I'm pretty good at keeping things close to the.
- 25:43Speaker 2: Hat, that's not yeah, hat, hat to the vest and
- 25:46Speaker 2: close to the hat. And we're all headed here.
- 25:50Speaker 1: Yes, but you know, I look forward to the day
- 25:54Speaker 1: when I can tell you all, hey, go see this
- 25:56Speaker 1: TV show or this movie. I'm in it if it
- 25:59Speaker 1: doesn't and your sensibilities. But today is not that day.
- 26:03Speaker 2: Okay, Well, since we know that today we will not
- 26:06Speaker 2: be revealing in thirty seconds or less, aerial star turn
- 26:11Speaker 2: in the next a big blockbuster movie. How about we
- 26:15Speaker 2: go to what we do have for thirty seconds or less?
- 26:18Speaker 2: Is that cool?
- 26:19Speaker 1: Yes? It is, and I will start so speaking of
- 26:22Speaker 1: Justice League and Zack Snyder and Snyder cuts and things
- 26:25Speaker 1: like that, Hey, Rebel Moon is getting multiple director's cuts.
- 26:31Speaker 1: We knew this already. It looks like each director cut's
- 26:34Speaker 1: going to be like three hours, and there's going to
- 26:37Speaker 1: be completely different scenes and lines that were in the
- 26:40Speaker 1: original two movies on Netflix might have a completely different
- 26:45Speaker 1: meaning because they're just they're making it our INSTEADT thirteen
- 26:48Speaker 1: and also just like basically rewriting the whole thing, which
- 26:53Speaker 1: once again just nails home my thoughts that Zack Snyder
- 26:59Speaker 1: just needs to allow himself to be edited down, Like
- 27:03Speaker 1: you don't need four versions of a movie.
- 27:05Speaker 2: Okay, Zack Snyder, you keep using director's cut. I do
- 27:09Speaker 2: not think it means what you think it means. Well.
- 27:13Speaker 2: Tom Holland recently reassured fans that Spider Man four is
- 27:16Speaker 2: still very much in his plans for the future, but
- 27:18Speaker 2: he stressed that the team still has to find the
- 27:20Speaker 2: right story to tell, which makes sense. I don't think
- 27:23Speaker 2: a film about Spider Man just having a crappy, boring
- 27:26Speaker 2: day would do very well. Interestingly, there's a rumor going
- 27:29Speaker 2: around that Sam Raimi and Toby McGuire could be down
- 27:33Speaker 2: to do a fourth Spider Man in that series, but
- 27:37Speaker 2: that to me sounds like it might just be wishful thinking.
- 27:42Speaker 1: I don't know, I'd be for more youth pastor Toby
- 27:46Speaker 1: McGuire Spider Man happening just.
- 27:48Speaker 2: Go dancing down the street yet again.
- 27:51Speaker 1: Yes, so looks like we might be getting a new
- 27:55Speaker 1: Sleepy Hollow movie remake is underway at Paramount Hollywood. Record
- 28:01Speaker 1: announces that the first look deal is with filmmaker Lindsay
- 28:05Speaker 1: Anderson Beer, who worked on pet Cemetery and is also
- 28:12Speaker 1: working on some other fun stuff.
- 28:17Speaker 2: My favorite versions of three seconds or less are the
- 28:20Speaker 2: ones where you just peter out, thank you, Okay, well,
- 28:26Speaker 2: just keep doing it, please do, please do. Don't change
- 28:29Speaker 2: for anybody, all right. So, some Disney rides are based
- 28:34Speaker 2: on films. Some of the rides are not based on films,
- 28:36Speaker 2: but they still have a clear story. And then some
- 28:39Speaker 2: are Space Mountain, which is really just a space themed
- 28:41Speaker 2: roller coaster and that's all there is to it. So
- 28:44Speaker 2: of course it's being turned into a movie. Josh Applebaum
- 28:47Speaker 2: and Andre Namak are writing the screenplay. They were the
- 28:50Speaker 2: showrunners on the Netflix series Cowboy Bebop, so they know
- 28:54Speaker 2: how to tell a space story that goes nowhere and
- 28:56Speaker 2: gets canceled at for one season. Jokes. Yay.
- 29:01Speaker 1: Speaking of jokes, we're getting Thursday. Murder Club movie cast
- 29:08Speaker 1: has been announced Pierce Brosnan, Ben Kingsley, and Helen Muran.
- 29:11Speaker 1: It's based on a book series about septagenarians who solved
- 29:15Speaker 1: murders in a retirement community. That sounds like fun to me.
- 29:19Speaker 1: It's like the Yes and of the old older movie Red.
- 29:22Speaker 2: That's so cool, all right? Lakeith Stanfield and Lorenzo di
- 29:28Speaker 2: Bonaventura are producing a film adaptation of the video game
- 29:31Speaker 2: El Paso Elsewhere, which is kind of like Max Payne
- 29:35Speaker 2: mixed with Blade. It's a shooter set in a world
- 29:37Speaker 2: filled with vampires with some time slowed down elements. In
- 29:40Speaker 2: other words, Well, Stanfield is also in talks to star
- 29:43Speaker 2: in the film. So will this be a video game
- 29:46Speaker 2: adaptation that's well received like Fallout or Last of Us?
- 29:50Speaker 2: Or will it be dismissed like Halo? Honestly, I have
- 29:54Speaker 2: no idea.
- 29:55Speaker 1: I hope, so I'm just trying to give a clever
- 29:58Speaker 1: segue kind of spit out. Lord of the Rings. The
- 30:02Speaker 1: Lord of the Rings trilogy is returning to summer, returning
- 30:05Speaker 1: to theaters this summer June eighth, ninth, and tenth. It
- 30:08Speaker 1: is the extended remastered versions of it. So if you
- 30:12Speaker 1: want to spend a total of a little over twelve
- 30:15Speaker 1: hours over three days watching the Lord of the Rings movies,
- 30:20Speaker 1: you now have the opportunity to do it. If you
- 30:22Speaker 1: haven't seen the Lord of the Rings movies, they hold
- 30:24Speaker 1: up pretty well, you should do.
- 30:27Speaker 2: Yeah. First, one's great, second, one's good, third, one's okay.
- 30:31Speaker 2: In my one has Billy Boyd singing though, so it does.
- 30:34Speaker 2: It does, which could go either way for you, depending
- 30:36Speaker 2: on how you feel.
- 30:36Speaker 1: All right, so it's good.
- 30:38Speaker 2: Zach Kreigor, who made the film Barbarian, has a new
- 30:41Speaker 2: horror film and development called Weapons, and he started casting
- 30:44Speaker 2: that film. Josh Brolin and Julia Garner are on board
- 30:47Speaker 2: the Star in Quote, an interrelated multi story horror epic
- 30:51Speaker 2: that tonally is in the vein of Magnolia. According to
- 30:55Speaker 2: the Hollywood Reporter, Garner's a pretty busy woman as she
- 30:58Speaker 2: is currently shooting Wolfman and we'll be in another upcoming
- 31:01Speaker 2: project that I'm going to talk about in oh I
- 31:03Speaker 2: don't know half a minute.
- 31:06Speaker 1: Both great actors should be a good movie. Looks like
- 31:11Speaker 1: there's an off Broadway play coming to Broadway. It's Oh Mary,
- 31:19Speaker 1: based on Mary Todd Lincoln's experiences right before Abraham Lincoln
- 31:26Speaker 1: gets murdered, just kind of like her unhappy life. I
- 31:36Speaker 1: don't know how to feel about it, but apparently it's
- 31:37Speaker 1: really popular. So if you're in New York check it out.
- 31:40Speaker 2: Yeah, it just makes me think of the joke about well,
- 31:43Speaker 2: apart from that, missus Lincoln, what did you think of
- 31:45Speaker 2: the play? So hey, I'm back with more Julia Garna
- 31:50Speaker 2: action among everything else. She also stars an Apartment seven A,
- 31:54Speaker 2: which is a prequel to the classic horror movie Rosemary's
- 31:57Speaker 2: Baby movie set in nineteen sixty five. Sure to be
- 32:00Speaker 2: a devil of a good time anyway, Apartment seven A
- 32:04Speaker 2: comes out this fall on Paramount Plus. Julia Garner will
- 32:07Speaker 2: also be seen in the upcoming film of The Fantastic
- 32:09Speaker 2: Four because she's not the invisible woman, so she will
- 32:13Speaker 2: be seen. To get it, it's funny joke there. She'll
- 32:15Speaker 2: be Shallabald and also the Silver Server.
- 32:20Speaker 1: Look get ready for another story where I Peter out.
- 32:24Speaker 1: If you are looking forward to watching The Wild Robot,
- 32:26Speaker 1: you're gonna have to wait a whole seven days more.
- 32:29Speaker 1: The film debut has now been moved from September twentieth
- 32:32Speaker 1: to September twenty seventh. I know that is a long
- 32:35Speaker 1: time too.
- 32:36Speaker 2: Eight weird. I wonder there must be another movie coming
- 32:40Speaker 2: out that day that they decided they didn't want to
- 32:43Speaker 2: go up against, because I can't think of that. There's
- 32:45Speaker 2: no way a week would otherwise make a difference. I wonder.
- 32:49Speaker 1: I love it because they moved, because they moved Transformers
- 32:52Speaker 1: one to September twentieth.
- 32:53Speaker 2: That's that does make sense, okay.
- 32:57Speaker 1: And Beetlejuice. Beetle Juice is coming out on September sixth,
- 33:00Speaker 1: so that's seven days is going to make a real difference, Yes.
- 33:03Speaker 2: It really will. All right, Well, we've got some news
- 33:05Speaker 2: about actors cast in twenty eight years Later, and shocking enough,
- 33:09Speaker 2: Julia Garner is not on the list, but Jody Komer,
- 33:13Speaker 2: Ray Fines, and Aaron Taylor Johnson made it. And so
- 33:16Speaker 2: this is a sequel to twenty eight days Later, the
- 33:19Speaker 2: not a zombie zombie movie that starred Killian Murphy. Murphy
- 33:24Speaker 2: is an executive producer on this project, and that's pretty
- 33:27Speaker 2: much all we know about it so far. But I
- 33:29Speaker 2: do like the actors who are listed, and I love
- 33:31Speaker 2: the first film, so I'm on board.
- 33:34Speaker 1: I liked it as well. So did you watch the
- 33:37Speaker 1: second one? No?
- 33:38Speaker 2: I think we had a discussion about this and I
- 33:40Speaker 2: said I was going to watch it, and I still
- 33:42Speaker 2: haven't seen was it twenty eight weeks later? I think, yeah,
- 33:46Speaker 2: I haven't seen it, and you said you really liked it.
- 33:49Speaker 1: I like this series. I honestly don't remember which was
- 33:52Speaker 1: which movie today, I've a headache. Everybody who's listening.
- 33:55Speaker 2: Yeah, no, she's soldiering on like she already had a headache,
- 33:59Speaker 2: and then she has to talk to me.
- 34:01Speaker 1: It's true. This last story is barely even a story. Apparently,
- 34:05Speaker 1: on reddits someone who previously worked for the company that
- 34:08Speaker 1: makes Blue said that they have are not writing more episodes,
- 34:12Speaker 1: and so new the series might be coming to it
- 34:16Speaker 1: and there's no season for production. This is a rumor
- 34:19Speaker 1: that it eventually got taken down. I don't even know
- 34:21Speaker 1: why I put it in here.
- 34:24Speaker 2: Because bluey thirty seconds or nothing, that's what we're called
- 34:28Speaker 2: segment now. So Blue is blue Kub bluey. We don't know,
- 34:33Speaker 2: and neither do you unless you're the producers.
- 34:37Speaker 1: Clever well. Not everything that we think is kabluey is,
- 34:42Speaker 1: for instance, Wolverine, Hugh Jackman as Wolverine.
- 34:45Speaker 2: Yeah, we thought he was done for because like that's
- 34:48Speaker 2: what he said after he shot Logan, Like Logan was
- 34:51Speaker 2: meant to be the finale, the swan song of Hugh
- 34:56Speaker 2: Jackman as Wolverine, him putting to bed that character Logan.
- 34:59Speaker 2: By the way, if you haven't seen it is a masterpiece.
- 35:03Speaker 2: It's a it is amazing film.
- 35:06Speaker 1: It's a little less fun if the people in the
- 35:08Speaker 1: theater around you almost get into a fistfight in the
- 35:11Speaker 1: middle of the movie. Nike's yeah. Yeah. I went to
- 35:14Speaker 1: see it and there were two families and one family
- 35:19Speaker 1: the kids were all on like iPads. The screens were
- 35:22Speaker 1: bright and they were being loud, and the other family
- 35:24Speaker 1: was not having it, and like the other family, dad
- 35:30Speaker 1: like threatened violence, and they got up in each other's
- 35:33Speaker 1: faces in the movie theater, and like a movie theater
- 35:36Speaker 1: employee had to come in and ask them to move
- 35:38Speaker 1: it too the hallway, and then we heard them yelling
- 35:40Speaker 1: in the hallway.
- 35:40Speaker 2: It was a lot, and you know, already I would
- 35:43Speaker 2: have been like, I understand, getting childcare is not always easy,
- 35:49Speaker 2: it's not always practical, but bringing your kids to Logan
- 35:53Speaker 2: is a choice, y'all. That was not a that was
- 35:55Speaker 2: an R rated movie.
- 35:57Speaker 1: It was mainly for violence, I would say.
- 36:02Speaker 2: Yeah, but still, I mean, like, actually violence is the
- 36:04Speaker 2: part that I'd be the most concerned about. I always,
- 36:07Speaker 2: I always think it's interesting that in America, the emphasis
- 36:13Speaker 2: on whether something is appropriate or not tends to be
- 36:16Speaker 2: centered around nudity and situations around nudity, and then like
- 36:21Speaker 2: everywhere else, it's like, no, we're kind of concerned about
- 36:24Speaker 2: the part where he made the the guy's head pop
- 36:26Speaker 2: like a like a like a grape.
- 36:28Speaker 1: Like you know, yeah, I mean, I really think what
- 36:31Speaker 1: it is is some people looked at the movie and said.
- 36:34Speaker 2: Oh, there's a kid in this, or it's a superhero movie,
- 36:37Speaker 2: so it's got to be you know, appropriate for children,
- 36:40Speaker 2: and well, of course we're dancing around it. But I mean,
- 36:43Speaker 2: obviously everyone knows that Wolverine is back because it's he's
- 36:46Speaker 2: part of the the Deadpool and Wolverine movie, which is
- 36:50Speaker 2: not People have said it's not Deadpool three, even though
- 36:53Speaker 2: it is the continuation of that version of Deadpool. It's
- 36:56Speaker 2: Deadpool and Wolverine, and we got another full trailer for it,
- 37:00Speaker 2: not just a teaser. I thought this trailer was interesting, Ariel,
- 37:04Speaker 2: because unlike the teaser, which really focused heavily on the TVA,
- 37:11Speaker 2: this one, like the TVA is in it, but they
- 37:14Speaker 2: aren't given that much time in the trailer. It's really
- 37:16Speaker 2: a lot more about Deadpool and Wolverine.
- 37:20Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean they do talk a lot about Wolverine's
- 37:23Speaker 1: world in the trailer and how he he let his universe.
- 37:28Speaker 2: Go to go to h double hockey sticks.
- 37:31Speaker 1: Yeah, we also get the villain. I don't think the
- 37:36Speaker 1: villain was shown in the trailer as much. Cassandra Nova.
- 37:39Speaker 2: Yeah, that's Professor X's quote unquote sister. And we see
- 37:46Speaker 2: her manipulating Wolverine, like physically manipulating him with her mind
- 37:51Speaker 2: and with like a smirk on her face and very
- 37:54Speaker 2: sharp gestures. And as I was watching it, I'm like,
- 37:58Speaker 2: this actor really knows how to play a villain, because
- 38:03Speaker 2: this is like like text book villain, uh kind of
- 38:08Speaker 2: of actions and and a look on her face. It
- 38:11Speaker 2: was really well done.
- 38:13Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, she's much prettier than in the comics, I
- 38:17Speaker 1: will say yes, or or they are much prettier than
- 38:20Speaker 1: in the comics.
- 38:21Speaker 2: I'm not actually sure who that who the actor is,
- 38:24Speaker 2: or what pronouns they use.
- 38:25Speaker 1: Emma Emma Coryna is the actor who did a murder
- 38:31Speaker 1: at the End of the World and the Crown. She's
- 38:34Speaker 1: Nosferatu or they are in noatuh. But anyhow, Yeah, I
- 38:43Speaker 1: think I think they make a really good villain. I
- 38:47Speaker 1: love the little plays to the superhero world in the
- 38:50Speaker 1: In the trailer, there's a store called Sleive Fields.
- 38:56Speaker 2: Just feet. Yeah, that's a reference reference to the creator
- 38:59Speaker 2: of Dead Bull. Yeah, he.
- 39:03Speaker 1: Made some choices in his artwork.
- 39:06Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know, I thought it was interesting. There's
- 39:10Speaker 2: a sequence where you see a giant helmeted skull of
- 39:16Speaker 2: ant Man in the background that's been turned almost into
- 39:19Speaker 2: like some sort of chamber or something, and I'm like, wow,
- 39:23Speaker 2: that's heavy, Like that is clearly ant Man's helmet. That's
- 39:27Speaker 2: clearly a giant skull. Some bad things have happened in
- 39:32Speaker 2: this particular multiverse universe.
- 39:35Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean there's also a broken twentieth century Fox
- 39:38Speaker 1: sign in.
- 39:39Speaker 2: That very very fun, little cheeky nod to the former
- 39:43Speaker 2: studio that produced.
- 39:44Speaker 1: Deadpool, and maybe the worst thing in that universe. Wolverine's
- 39:48Speaker 1: hair is so dumber than usual.
- 39:51Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, he's also wearing the yellow and blue costume,
- 39:54Speaker 2: which is interesting because you never like he'd made you know,
- 39:57Speaker 2: there's a joke in the original X Men film about him,
- 40:02Speaker 2: you know, dismissing this idea about yellow and blue spandex
- 40:05Speaker 2: or whatever. So it's funny to see him finally wearing it.
- 40:09Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, all in all, I'm pretty excited for it. Honestly,
- 40:14Speaker 1: me too.
- 40:14Speaker 2: I'm interested to see how this story unfolds. It's like,
- 40:20Speaker 2: I'm really curious about a few things, Like I'm curious
- 40:23Speaker 2: about how Deadpool's relationship with his beloved has kind of
- 40:29Speaker 2: fallen apart, because we know that that's part of the story,
- 40:32Speaker 2: is that they're no longer together. She's still friends with
- 40:35Speaker 2: him because she's there at his birthday party, but they're
- 40:39Speaker 2: no longer dating apparently. They're also, of course, obviously some
- 40:44Speaker 2: very fun meta jokes that are poking fun at the
- 40:47Speaker 2: Disney studio, like Deadpool specifically says that they can't joke
- 40:52Speaker 2: about an illicit substance because that figy said that was
- 40:56Speaker 2: specifically off the table.
- 40:59Speaker 1: Yeah, they do it for like five minutes, longer than
- 41:03Speaker 1: the trailer. I think it's interesting because I think we
- 41:06Speaker 1: talked about during the strike that during during the writer's strike,
- 41:10Speaker 1: that they could film parts of Deadpool, but Ryan Reynolds
- 41:16Speaker 1: couldn't improve and so he because he was the writer,
- 41:19Speaker 1: so he'd also have to like ad R that later.
- 41:22Speaker 2: Weird. Yeah, I remember we did talk about that and
- 41:25Speaker 2: it was I don't know how much go ahead. I
- 41:28Speaker 2: was just gonna say it was my impression that they
- 41:30Speaker 2: ultimately just paused the production until the writer's strike was reconciled,
- 41:36Speaker 2: because I mean it's possible that they did that. They
- 41:41Speaker 2: did do some of that stuff where because the character
- 41:45Speaker 2: is in a mask for much of it, you could
- 41:47Speaker 2: just keep shooting footage of him in a mask looking
- 41:51Speaker 2: around or whatever, and then ad r everything.
- 41:54Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I was going to say, I wonder if
- 41:56Speaker 1: they even got to it, because shortly after the writers
- 41:58Speaker 1: strike we had the actor strike. Ye. It's just a
- 42:01Speaker 1: double whammy. You can't film during that. So anyhow, I'll
- 42:06Speaker 1: be interested. I'm just interested to see how the whole
- 42:09Speaker 1: thing turned out. Deadpool is one of those ones where,
- 42:11Speaker 1: like I really enjoyed the first and the second movie,
- 42:13Speaker 1: and this third movie looks like I will still.
- 42:17Speaker 2: Enjoy it well, and I'm eager to see what other
- 42:22Speaker 2: elements from other Marvel films they're gonna pull in, because
- 42:25Speaker 2: we've heard obviously about various actors coming in to reprise
- 42:30Speaker 2: their roles, often from the Fox era of X Men films,
- 42:36Speaker 2: but being part of the Marvel umbrella, you just don't
- 42:40Speaker 2: know who's going to show up. There's a point in
- 42:42Speaker 2: the preview where there's a portal that's opening up, and
- 42:47Speaker 2: it looks just like one of the portals that doctor
- 42:50Speaker 2: Stranger Wong would open, So you're wondering, like, Okay, who's
- 42:55Speaker 2: responsible for that? Are we going to get a doctor
- 42:57Speaker 2: Strange cameo in Deadpool and Wall? I don't know.
- 43:02Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we'll We'll have to wait and see, but
- 43:05Speaker 1: hopefully when does it it comes out September. I just
- 43:08Speaker 1: said that earlier in this episode. Sorry, my head hurts. Uh.
- 43:12Speaker 1: It feels very far away, okay. Uh. We also got
- 43:15Speaker 1: a new trailer for The Watchers, Yeah, which is not
- 43:19Speaker 1: The Trap by m Night Shayamalam, but.
- 43:22Speaker 2: It's produced by him Night Shayamalan. Yeah, but it's not
- 43:25Speaker 2: directed by him. Yeah, this is this is like, this
- 43:29Speaker 2: is one of those trailers where I watched it and
- 43:32Speaker 2: again by the end of it, I was thinking, I
- 43:35Speaker 2: have kind of a sense of what the tone of
- 43:38Speaker 2: the film is, but I'm still not really sure what
- 43:40Speaker 2: it's about.
- 43:43Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, as far as I can tell, a girl
- 43:46Speaker 1: gets stuck in the woods with her bird, who is
- 43:49Speaker 1: not supposed to be able to talk. So my guess
- 43:50Speaker 1: is the bird is the big villain, and uh, because
- 43:55Speaker 1: it does talk and it's not supposed to. And her
- 43:58Speaker 1: car disappears, and there are these creatures that she can't
- 44:00Speaker 1: see that are coming after her, and she gets pulled
- 44:02Speaker 1: into this room as a place of safety, and then
- 44:04Speaker 1: she's in this room where these creatures that were coming
- 44:06Speaker 1: after her watch them all creepily.
- 44:10Speaker 2: Yeah, Like somehow the people who are captured inside this
- 44:15Speaker 2: room are there for the entertainment of these creatures or something.
- 44:20Speaker 2: It's hard to say, Like obviously the trailer doesn't want
- 44:23Speaker 2: to give away too much, but it's definitely weird to
- 44:26Speaker 2: a point where I'm like, I don't know if there's
- 44:29Speaker 2: an easy way to summarize what this film is actually about,
- 44:36Speaker 2: but I am intrigued.
- 44:38Speaker 1: These creatures are trying to make their own Truman show.
- 44:40Speaker 1: That's all it is.
- 44:41Speaker 2: Yeah, but the problem is that they aren't subtle enough,
- 44:44Speaker 2: so everyone already is aware that they're in the Truman Show,
- 44:48Speaker 2: so that you can't get that cinema veritay that you're
- 44:51Speaker 2: really hoping for.
- 44:53Speaker 1: Yeah. And also, like at one point in the trailer,
- 44:55Speaker 1: one of the characters husband shows up outside and they're like, no,
- 44:58Speaker 1: it's a trap. So I wonder if the like people
- 45:02Speaker 1: are afraid to leave this room. But it's really okay.
- 45:05Speaker 1: So the monsters that are watching them just keep trying
- 45:07Speaker 1: to be like, no, we don't like you're boring now,
- 45:09Speaker 1: please just leave, go home. We don't care.
- 45:11Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Sweeps Week has got to be brutal in
- 45:15Speaker 2: that universe. Yeah. I, like I said, I'm intrigued, I
- 45:19Speaker 2: don't know that I'm intrigued enough to go and see
- 45:21Speaker 2: this in the theater. This might be one that I
- 45:23Speaker 2: can wait for, kind of like like Late Night with
- 45:25Speaker 2: the Devil. But then again, like I said, I might
- 45:28Speaker 2: have enjoyed Late Night with the Devil more had I
- 45:30Speaker 2: gone to the theater. So maybe I need to start
- 45:32Speaker 2: reevaluating my strategy on these films.
- 45:36Speaker 1: Speaking of enjoying things more. We got a new trailer
- 45:39Speaker 1: for Atlas, and the second trailer makes me much more
- 45:42Speaker 1: interested in the story.
- 45:42Speaker 2: It looks a lot different than what the because the
- 45:46Speaker 2: first trailer was giving me gravity feels like it felt
- 45:50Speaker 2: like science fiction story of a woman who is put
- 45:55Speaker 2: into a survival situation and is largely on her own
- 46:00Speaker 2: and her attempt to survive. This trailer looked more like
- 46:05Speaker 2: a woman who is uh this this badass soldier who
- 46:11Speaker 2: then is thrust into a situation where it's like hopeless odds.
- 46:17Speaker 2: So it felt like a very different film. It's funny
- 46:19Speaker 2: that the two trailers could give me such different impressions
- 46:22Speaker 2: of what the movie's about. Yeah.
- 46:24Speaker 1: This this trailer has Jennifer Jennifer Lopez, right, yes j
- 46:29Speaker 1: Jlo escaping, escaping in a mech suit that has an AI.
- 46:35Speaker 1: She doesn't trust AI, but she ends up befriending this
- 46:38Speaker 1: particular AI. Kind of very Flight of the Navigator esque,
- 46:42Speaker 1: sort of like a snarky Flight of the Navigator esque
- 46:45Speaker 1: sort of relationship between the two as she goes out
- 46:48Speaker 1: and tries to like rescue her her uh her coworker,
- 46:53Speaker 1: I guess yeah friend who is Simouliu, which is awesome.
- 47:01Speaker 1: I don't know. It actually looked pretty cute, and it's Netflix,
- 47:03Speaker 1: so it's low risk maybe high reward to watch it.
- 47:08Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's so it's making me feel like
- 47:12Speaker 2: there's some other science fiction movies this is reminding me
- 47:15Speaker 2: of because of that nature of you've got a character
- 47:20Speaker 2: who has an inherent distrust in all versions of something else, right,
- 47:27Speaker 2: some sort of outsider. So it's making me think of Bright,
- 47:31Speaker 2: which was that terrible movie with Will Smith where it
- 47:35Speaker 2: was he's a human cop paired with an orc cop
- 47:39Speaker 2: in a world that has fantasy characters. It also reminds
- 47:42Speaker 2: me of a movie called Alien Nation, where a human
- 47:45Speaker 2: and an alien detective pair are paired together and have
- 47:49Speaker 2: to work together even though the human has biases and
- 47:53Speaker 2: prejudices about aliens. Like as I was watching this trailer,
- 47:58Speaker 2: I could not help but feel like I've seen this
- 48:00Speaker 2: movie before. It wasn't about AI, but it was about
- 48:04Speaker 2: something very similar in the sense of your protagonist is
- 48:08Speaker 2: inherently distrustful of something or someone that they later will
- 48:13Speaker 2: have to put their life in its hands.
- 48:18Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 48:19Speaker 2: I don't know how this one's gonna turn out. I'm
- 48:24Speaker 2: not I'm not as sold on it as you are.
- 48:26Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not hating on it, but I remain unconvinced.
- 48:32Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, but it's AI, and that's like that's
- 48:36Speaker 1: not a new thing, but it is a very prominent.
- 48:38Speaker 2: Thing, right well obviously, yes, absolutely, Yeah, I mean I
- 48:41Speaker 2: can totally understand why they went with AI for this
- 48:44Speaker 2: particular story. I'm just feeling like, and maybe it will
- 48:47Speaker 2: be significantly different from those other projects I just mentioned,
- 48:52Speaker 2: and that like it'll it'll stand on its own, but
- 48:54Speaker 2: it just feels to me like it's the same story
- 48:56Speaker 2: just with the detail of what the the partner is
- 49:01Speaker 2: switch to AI because AI is really trendy.
- 49:05Speaker 1: Yeah, it is interesting because on the one hand, like, yes,
- 49:09Speaker 1: I am in the camp of there was a really
- 49:12Speaker 1: great meme that a mutual friend of our shared once,
- 49:14Speaker 1: which is, I don't want to live in a world
- 49:16Speaker 1: where I work a menial job while AI gets to
- 49:19Speaker 1: make art.
- 49:19Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, that's the opposite of what's supposed to happen.
- 49:23Speaker 2: If you watch Star Trek, you know that what is
- 49:25Speaker 2: supposed to happen is all the robots are supposed to
- 49:28Speaker 2: do the dull, mindless stuff, freeing us up to pursue
- 49:33Speaker 2: our dreams, not the other way around.
- 49:36Speaker 1: That being said, they're like someone shared there's this AI
- 49:41Speaker 1: thing where it tries to detect the emotions in your voice.
- 49:48Speaker 1: And on the one hand, I don't want to train
- 49:51Speaker 1: an AI to be better at imitating human emotions because
- 49:54Speaker 1: that hurts my job, right, But on the other hand,
- 49:58Speaker 1: it was really interesting because could ask it stuff like
- 50:02Speaker 1: I looked into it. It was a part of my
- 50:05Speaker 1: other job. You could ask it stuff like do you
- 50:08Speaker 1: have a conscience? Are you self aware? Do you feel?
- 50:12Speaker 1: And it was just really interesting, really interesting responses. You know.
- 50:18Speaker 1: So I treat all of my AI and computer and
- 50:21Speaker 1: virtual assistance well just in case they gained sentience, because
- 50:25Speaker 1: at that point they deserve to be treated well.
- 50:27Speaker 2: Yeah, I continue to be abusive and awful toward them,
- 50:33Speaker 2: but that's how I am to all of my subservience.
- 50:38Speaker 1: Yeah, speaking of things that remind us of other things,
- 50:42Speaker 1: you shared a trailer for Blink Twice, which is Zoe
- 50:46Speaker 1: Kravitz's kind of directorial debut, and it felt like a
- 50:50Speaker 1: dark knives out glass onion to me.
- 50:55Speaker 2: Yeah. I think it's definitely got some some dark comedy
- 50:59Speaker 2: threat her psychological thriller action going on there. Where this
- 51:06Speaker 2: young woman and her friend end up being invited to
- 51:10Speaker 2: tag along with a like a tech billionaire and his
- 51:15Speaker 2: incredibly rich buddies to his private island and then something
- 51:21Speaker 2: seems to be a miss and and things unfold and
- 51:26Speaker 2: escalate from there. It also kind of reminded me a
- 51:29Speaker 2: little bit of the trailer for The Menu. You know,
- 51:33Speaker 2: not necessarily the film The Menu, but when the trailer
- 51:36Speaker 2: came out, like I had all these different ideas of
- 51:40Speaker 2: what The Menu was gonna be, and it turns out
- 51:41Speaker 2: I was wrong about almost all of it, because I
- 51:43Speaker 2: thought it was going to be like a human cannibal
- 51:45Speaker 2: movie or something me too, which is why I did
- 51:48Speaker 2: not watch it.
- 51:49Speaker 1: But I know it's not a.
- 51:50Speaker 2: Cannibal Yeah, it's not a cannibal film at all, but
- 51:53Speaker 2: it and it turned out to be one of those
- 51:54Speaker 2: movies that I absolutely like. The Menu is one of
- 51:58Speaker 2: my favorite films from the last few year years. I
- 52:00Speaker 2: don't think it's necessarily one of the best films from
- 52:03Speaker 2: the last few years, but it certainly I found it
- 52:06Speaker 2: incredibly entertaining, and this trailer looks really interesting to me,
- 52:13Speaker 2: Like I like the dark comedy aspect to it. I
- 52:15Speaker 2: like the thriller aspect to it. I like, you know
- 52:19Speaker 2: a lot of the actors who are in it. It's
- 52:21Speaker 2: it's funny to see, like, like Christian Slater is only
- 52:25Speaker 2: in the trailer for a moment, but the fact that
- 52:28Speaker 2: he's there is kind of interesting. Kyle McLaughlin, he's in
- 52:30Speaker 2: it for even less. But I'm a huge Kyle McLaughlin fan.
- 52:35Speaker 2: Haley Joel Osmont, who you know, you don't see him
- 52:38Speaker 2: very much anymore, so seeing him pop up was great.
- 52:41Speaker 2: Aliah Shawkat, of course I love her seeing her and
- 52:44Speaker 2: it was great. So yeah, it's Channing Tatum or Tanning Chatham,
- 52:47Speaker 2: as Ariel likes to say.
- 52:50Speaker 1: Yeah, and a bunch of these. So it is really
- 52:53Speaker 1: interesting because a lot of those actors, even Christian Slater
- 52:56Speaker 1: to some degree, our actors that I equate. He's maybe
- 52:59Speaker 1: the least of with more like comedic movies I.
- 53:04Speaker 2: Think of Christian I don't know. I think I think
- 53:06Speaker 2: of Christian Slater in dark comedies. But that's because if
- 53:09Speaker 2: I think Christian Slater, the first film that comes to
- 53:12Speaker 2: mind is Heathers, and that is like, that's like a
- 53:15Speaker 2: quintessential dark comedy.
- 53:19Speaker 1: I've never seen him. It is not for you.
- 53:23Speaker 2: I don't think, I mean, you can handle it. It's
- 53:26Speaker 2: not there's nothing in it that would that I can
- 53:29Speaker 2: recall that would be on your no no list. But
- 53:33Speaker 2: it is very dark. It is a very dark film.
- 53:37Speaker 1: I've sung a song from the musical in a cabaret once.
- 53:40Speaker 2: Yeah, I have not seen the musicals, and I mean,
- 53:43Speaker 2: I'm sure the musical more or less follows the plot
- 53:47Speaker 2: of the film. I mean, some musicals deviate wildly from
- 53:50Speaker 2: their source material. So I shouldn't say that since I
- 53:52Speaker 2: haven't seen it, but uh yeah, I mean, like Christian
- 53:56Speaker 2: Slater is very unnerving in that movie, to great effect,
- 54:01Speaker 2: like he's supposed to be. So that's so when I
- 54:05Speaker 2: think Christian Slater, that's the first thing, which is why
- 54:07Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, it's cool to see him in this,
- 54:10Speaker 2: because here's this new movie coming out where also something
- 54:14Speaker 2: is clearly not right, Like yeah, bringing Christian Slater onto
- 54:18Speaker 2: a project like that is just it's just one of
- 54:20Speaker 2: those wonderful like it feels like it's almost a reference
- 54:23Speaker 2: to a previous moment in his career.
- 54:25Speaker 1: So do you know who I missed that was in it?
- 54:27Speaker 1: That is in it?
- 54:28Speaker 2: Who's that? Gina Davis yeah, I didn't see her in
- 54:31Speaker 2: the trailer. I saw that she was on the list
- 54:33Speaker 2: of actors on there. But that's awesome too, Like, yeah,
- 54:38Speaker 2: I really like this trailer. It was again it's a
- 54:41Speaker 2: trailer where you get the vibe and you kind of understand,
- 54:47Speaker 2: like a bit of the story about the fact that
- 54:50Speaker 2: here's this young woman who gets invited to go on
- 54:53Speaker 2: this crazy whirlwind trip and you know, is it insane
- 55:00Speaker 2: for her to say yes hardly knowing the person who's
- 55:03Speaker 2: inviting her, Like you know a person by their reputation,
- 55:06Speaker 2: but you don't actually know the person. I'm like, well,
- 55:10Speaker 2: this is kind of this is kind of pushing some
- 55:12Speaker 2: buttons for me. I'm very curious about it. It comes
- 55:16Speaker 2: out on August twenty third.
- 55:18Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think these next three stories because I
- 55:21Speaker 1: know we're starting to run long again. So these next
- 55:24Speaker 1: three stories we can just basically touch on quickly.
- 55:29Speaker 2: Okay, I'll try, you'll try, yeah, and.
- 55:33Speaker 1: Then we'll do our mashouts. So the next thing we
- 55:36Speaker 1: have to talk about is roll twenty.
- 55:38Speaker 2: Which is, oh, we're just going to skip right over
- 55:39Speaker 2: the exorcism.
- 55:41Speaker 1: Oh shoot, I forgot about that. I didn't mean to.
- 55:45Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 55:45Speaker 1: Yeah, if you want to watch Russell Crowe. Russell Crowe
- 55:50Speaker 1: be a schlub an.
- 55:51Speaker 2: Actor, schlub so an actor. I was telling you before
- 55:55Speaker 2: we started recording that there's a really kind of something
- 55:59Speaker 2: I find fast about this film The Exorcism. So the
- 56:06Speaker 2: movie The Exorcism is about this actor played by Russell Crowe,
- 56:13Speaker 2: who is a cast in a horror movie, an exorcism
- 56:17Speaker 2: horror movie. Originally this film was called The Georgetown Project,
- 56:21Speaker 2: which is interesting. The Exorcist is set in Georgetown. It's
- 56:25Speaker 2: a neighborhood inside Washington, d C. And Russell Crowe is
- 56:31Speaker 2: playing a character named Anthony Miller. And the interesting thing
- 56:37Speaker 2: to me is it's directed by or partly directed by
- 56:43Speaker 2: Joshua John Miller. So you realize already the last names
- 56:48Speaker 2: are common, right, like Anthony Miller and Joshua John Miller.
- 56:52Speaker 2: Joshua John Miller's father was James Miller. James Miller played
- 56:57Speaker 2: the young priest in the original The Exorcist in the
- 57:01Speaker 2: nineteen seven cool yeah, so his dad was When you
- 57:04Speaker 2: hear like I need an old priest and a young priest,
- 57:07Speaker 2: he played the young priest Carrick father Carrick. Tragically, that
- 57:12Speaker 2: actor passed away like two decades ago now, but his
- 57:17Speaker 2: son is now the director of The Exorcism, and Russell
- 57:21Speaker 2: Crowe is playing a character who's playing it like the
- 57:23Speaker 2: character in the film is essentially playing a role that
- 57:27Speaker 2: seems to be similar to Carick from The Exorcist, and
- 57:31Speaker 2: then he's encountering these quote unquote cursed elements of this
- 57:36Speaker 2: film production. So to me, it's like what if you
- 57:39Speaker 2: made a horror movie about the making of the Exorcist,
- 57:43Speaker 2: except that this is clearly not a direct reference to
- 57:48Speaker 2: the Exorcist, because characters in the film mentioned the movie,
- 57:52Speaker 2: So it's not like it's not like this is actually
- 57:54Speaker 2: about the Exorcist. But similar to that, it's a cool
- 57:58Speaker 2: kind of meta inception of a thing.
- 58:02Speaker 1: I the Exorcist was very scary. It's one of the
- 58:05Speaker 1: ones that I can handle. I might I might do
- 58:10Speaker 1: some common sense media review of The Exorcism and then
- 58:13Speaker 1: watch it. Yeah, I do like the metanis of it.
- 58:16Speaker 2: I think that's really interesting. The fact because apparently, like
- 58:19Speaker 2: Joshua John Miller like as part of he also co
- 58:23Speaker 2: wrote the screenplay that apparently he took inspiration from stories
- 58:28Speaker 2: his dad told him about things that went wrong during
- 58:32Speaker 2: the filming of the Exorcist and then just kind of
- 58:34Speaker 2: amp that up and made it it appears to be supernatural.
- 58:38Speaker 2: It also is interesting to me that Russell Crowe, like
- 58:41Speaker 2: the dude, is getting work with exorcisms because last year
- 58:45Speaker 2: he was in The Pope's Exorcist. So like, when I
- 58:49Speaker 2: saw that there was news about this trailer coming out,
- 58:52Speaker 2: I was thinking, didn't that movie already come out? Like,
- 58:54Speaker 2: oh no, you're thinking of the other Exorcist movie that
- 58:57Speaker 2: Russell Crowe was in.
- 59:00Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I got a little confused too, but yeah,
- 59:04Speaker 1: it is. That is interesting. Thank you for sharing that
- 59:06Speaker 1: story and doing that research.
- 59:08Speaker 2: Yeah, no worries. Okay, now now we do the quick
- 59:10Speaker 2: touching on I apologize for derailing.
- 59:13Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, I didn't mean to skip that
- 59:15Speaker 1: at all. But yeah, Roll twenty, which is a way
- 59:19Speaker 1: to play like Dungeons and Dragons and other games basically
- 59:23Speaker 1: tabletop games online with your friends, is coming to Discord,
- 59:28Speaker 1: which for me, who when I played the game on
- 59:31Speaker 1: my old computer and try to run Discord and Roll
- 59:35Speaker 1: twenty at the same time my computer goes no stop
- 59:38Speaker 1: makes me very happy. Yeah.
- 59:39Speaker 2: Yeah, it's going to be built into the features for Discord,
- 59:42Speaker 2: which is really cool. Maybe one day I'm not making promises,
- 59:46Speaker 2: mind you. Maybe one day yours truly will even run
- 59:51Speaker 2: a game on Roll twenty and maybe we'll have a
- 59:55Speaker 2: game where listeners can join and play a session at
- 59:58Speaker 2: some point.
- 59:58Speaker 1: That would be really cool. Yeah, that really cool. I
- 1:00:00Speaker 1: bet we'd have a bunch of people who would do that. Uh,
- 1:00:05Speaker 1: let us let us know if you're interested. Again, no promises.
- 1:00:08Speaker 1: It's not like you say, yeah, I want to do
- 1:00:09Speaker 1: this and you're in.
- 1:00:10Speaker 2: Yeah, I got it. There's a lot of work that
- 1:00:12Speaker 2: goes into me setting that up, so we'll see if
- 1:00:15Speaker 2: I can do it.
- 1:00:17Speaker 1: Yeah. Next Blisscon twenty twenty four is canceled.
- 1:00:21Speaker 2: Blumber.
- 1:00:23Speaker 1: Yeah, it's sad there, it's not surprising because Blizzard's been
- 1:00:27Speaker 1: going through some stuff. We've talked about it before.
- 1:00:29Speaker 2: Yeah, Microsoft acquired them and then like almost two thousand
- 1:00:32Speaker 2: people lost their jobs.
- 1:00:34Speaker 1: Yeah, but even before that they were Since the pandemic,
- 1:00:37Speaker 1: they've kind of been on and off again with conventioning.
- 1:00:41Speaker 1: So it is. It is sad, but it's not unsurprising.
- 1:00:46Speaker 1: But in theory they will be still doing other conventions
- 1:00:50Speaker 1: like games Con and showcasing their upcoming stuff.
- 1:00:53Speaker 2: Oh, they'll do E three. Oh no, they won't do
- 1:00:56Speaker 2: E three because that's the two. Yeah. They also they
- 1:01:01Speaker 2: also don't have a whole lot to talk about just
- 1:01:04Speaker 2: right now, Like their slate is pretty clear at the moment,
- 1:01:07Speaker 2: So it's understandable you don't hold a big promotional event
- 1:01:11Speaker 2: if you've got nothing to promote.
- 1:01:14Speaker 1: Yeah. And then lastly, in advance of Furiosa coming to theaters,
- 1:01:20Speaker 1: the original three Mad Max movies are going to Max,
- 1:01:24Speaker 1: which the Max Max Max Max.
- 1:01:28Speaker 2: Yeah, so you can.
- 1:01:29Speaker 1: You can if you've not watched Mad Max, you can
- 1:01:31Speaker 1: watch it in all of its cheesy, hoky glory.
- 1:01:34Speaker 2: The first Mad Max is not, in my opinion, not
- 1:01:38Speaker 2: very entertaining. It's a very very low budget Australian film.
- 1:01:45Speaker 2: I think Road Warrior is amazing and Beyond Thunderdome is amazing,
- 1:01:49Speaker 2: but in all the wrong ways.
- 1:01:51Speaker 1: Beyond Thunderdome is like was my favorite prior to Fury
- 1:01:56Speaker 1: Road because.
- 1:01:58Speaker 2: It's just so I think I think it was my
- 1:02:00Speaker 2: favorite too, Like I think Road Warrior is a better movie,
- 1:02:04Speaker 2: but I think I enjoyed Beyond Thunderdome except for the fact,
- 1:02:08Speaker 2: like the last half of the film there's some real
- 1:02:12Speaker 2: long stretches that are kind of boring. In Beyond Thunderdome.
- 1:02:17Speaker 2: The beginning, the beginning to the middle is incredible, and
- 1:02:20Speaker 2: the end is incredible, but between the middle and the
- 1:02:22Speaker 2: end there's a section that's not good.
- 1:02:25Speaker 1: It's like driving through the desert in a car with
- 1:02:27Speaker 1: no AC and.
- 1:02:29Speaker 2: No one's chasing you. You're just having to drive.
- 1:02:32Speaker 1: Yeah, it's desert bus the movie.
- 1:02:35Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, so, I.
- 1:02:38Speaker 1: Guess Llenc's official recommendation is watched two and three.
- 1:02:42Speaker 2: Yeah, watch Road Warrior, watch Beyond Thunderdome, watch Fury Road,
- 1:02:48Speaker 2: and watch Fiurriosa. If you absolutely have to, you can
- 1:02:52Speaker 2: watch the First Man Max. I just don't think it's
- 1:02:56Speaker 2: I don't know that I've ever been able to sit
- 1:02:58Speaker 2: through it in one sitting because I just found it
- 1:03:03Speaker 2: pretty dull and it was hard for me to connect
- 1:03:07Speaker 2: to anything that was going on on screen. I will say, however,
- 1:03:11Speaker 2: one of the actors who's playing one of the antagonists
- 1:03:14Speaker 2: in that first Mad Max film is the same actor
- 1:03:16Speaker 2: who plays the bad guy in Fury Road. I mean
- 1:03:22Speaker 2: it's the same act not the same character, but it
- 1:03:24Speaker 2: is the same actor.
- 1:03:26Speaker 1: That is pretty cool. I don't know if it's worth
- 1:03:28Speaker 1: watching the movie. And with that we are going to
- 1:03:31Speaker 1: move onto our mashups, yes, which is making kind of
- 1:03:39Speaker 1: the idea was to make fake trailers where Deadpool was
- 1:03:42Speaker 1: mashed up with other stuff and I forgot to be
- 1:03:44Speaker 1: time hopping since he's about to be time hopping, so
- 1:03:49Speaker 1: I will start.
- 1:03:50Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's good because see you've actually got trailers
- 1:03:53Speaker 2: whereas I did a movie treatment. So yours are the
- 1:03:56Speaker 2: trailers that play in front of my movie.
- 1:03:59Speaker 1: So you want me to do both trailers before your movie? Okay,
- 1:04:03Speaker 1: So the first is Deadpool Pig in the City.
- 1:04:07Speaker 2: Uh, I'll try so hard.
- 1:04:12Speaker 1: Old week, Deadpool had a farm e i e oh no.
- 1:04:16Speaker 1: After retiring to the country with his girl, his friends,
- 1:04:19Speaker 1: his taxi driver, and his faithful pig, Wade Wilson thinks
- 1:04:22Speaker 1: he has it all until one day his water pipe
- 1:04:24Speaker 1: not that kind, an actual pipe carrying water, breaks it
- 1:04:29Speaker 1: on his farm and he finds his farm in trouble.
- 1:04:32Speaker 1: Wade is just about to pull out his Merk mask
- 1:04:34Speaker 1: to go to the city and acquire some money when
- 1:04:38Speaker 1: his pig companion steps up and says, nah, I got this. Buddy,
- 1:04:41Speaker 1: throws on a Deadpool mask and heads off, and what
- 1:04:44Speaker 1: ensues is a mad cap adventure where Dead Pork actual
- 1:04:47Speaker 1: character heads to the city, gets put up put up
- 1:04:49Speaker 1: for free by an animal friendly hotel, but gets abducted
- 1:04:52Speaker 1: by a creepy clown named Fugley who is fugglier than
- 1:04:55Speaker 1: Dead Pork's at home farm hero Dead Pork rescues some
- 1:04:59Speaker 1: prime it's not the human kind, delivers some babies not
- 1:05:02Speaker 1: the human kind, and then he and the rescued chimps
- 1:05:05Speaker 1: take down the creepy fugly mugger, who was secretly running
- 1:05:08Speaker 1: Fuggly Muggers animal smuggling, where he'd attack folks and steal
- 1:05:11Speaker 1: exotic pets for his acts. Upon defeating the cringey clown,
- 1:05:15Speaker 1: they find his secret stash of fuggly money and split it.
- 1:05:18Speaker 1: Dead Pork heads home to fund his homeboy's homestead repairs,
- 1:05:22Speaker 1: just to find that Wade lost the farm in a
- 1:05:24Speaker 1: Crazy Eights game to Colossus, who happened to buy for
- 1:05:26Speaker 1: a visit. What happens next you'll have to watch to
- 1:05:29Speaker 1: find out.
- 1:05:30Speaker 2: Wow, I was not told there would be tongue twisters.
- 1:05:36Speaker 1: The snakes. One's worse. Not with tongue twisters, It's just worse,
- 1:05:39Speaker 1: and I apologize and advance. Bring it on this is
- 1:05:43Speaker 1: the Deadpool at Society, which is Deadpool and Dead Poets
- 1:05:46Speaker 1: Society movie where Robin Williams is against the grain teacher
- 1:05:50Speaker 1: at an all boys preparatory school, teaching them to be
- 1:05:53Speaker 1: cool people instead of the confined through poetry boring people.
- 1:05:56Speaker 1: That yeah, poetry ha ha. It all starts with organ
- 1:06:02Speaker 1: music and a voiceover Welton Academy for Boys, the breeding
- 1:06:05Speaker 1: ground for the future leaders of America. A school of
- 1:06:08Speaker 1: conformity and tradition upheld by all the teachers except one
- 1:06:11Speaker 1: record scratch. As the bell rings to usher in the
- 1:06:15Speaker 1: first day of school, a bizarre yet dashingly handsome if
- 1:06:17Speaker 1: you like sun withered plums figure enters the room wearing
- 1:06:20Speaker 1: a stylish yet warm Chimney Chonga sweater. But despite the
- 1:06:23Speaker 1: looks of stranger danger from this gaggle of pupas and pinheads,
- 1:06:27Speaker 1: it's just me Wade Wilson. Yep, that aforementioned troublesome teacher,
- 1:06:31Speaker 1: and I'm about to teach these teenaged torps how to
- 1:06:33Speaker 1: open up that better than a pistachio on the floor
- 1:06:35Speaker 1: of a clogging contest. Pan out to a montage of
- 1:06:39Speaker 1: me Wade Wilson molding my student's pliable brains to break
- 1:06:41Speaker 1: the rules, think outside the box, and seize the day
- 1:06:44Speaker 1: better than a nineteen hundred's new Zy with the use
- 1:06:46Speaker 1: of poetry, rock and rollin hormones. Yep, this school's going
- 1:06:49Speaker 1: equal opportunity co ed awesome. Soon these rhyming rugrats will
- 1:06:53Speaker 1: be all standing on the desk shouting, oh Deadpool, my Deadpool.
- 1:06:56Speaker 2: Yep.
- 1:06:57Speaker 1: Foreshadowing, but what's the story without conflict? If Gail Nolan,
- 1:07:00Speaker 1: head but head of the school, has his way, these
- 1:07:02Speaker 1: boys would be stuck in a cardigan wearing sausage vest.
- 1:07:05Speaker 1: Not that there's anything wrong with some calbasa of cookie
- 1:07:08Speaker 1: cutterdom emphasis on the dumb for life, but forcing these
- 1:07:11Speaker 1: squares into your round hole might make that life short.
- 1:07:14Speaker 1: But you'll have to watch the movie to see how
- 1:07:16Speaker 1: I save these kids' lives, extradite them from vapid Vermont,
- 1:07:18Speaker 1: open their minds to a multiverse of creativity, and induct
- 1:07:21Speaker 1: them into my super fighting squad of James merrillesque merks
- 1:07:24Speaker 1: with the marks of exforcellns coming never to a theater
- 1:07:28Speaker 1: near you. Not kidding, you can't get anyone to fund
- 1:07:30Speaker 1: a Slice of Life movie anymore. Chicka CHICAA.
- 1:07:35Speaker 2: Oh wow, and a Ferris Bueller's Day Off reference at
- 1:07:38Speaker 2: the end two Koosy's reference. Yeah, well, I mean I
- 1:07:42Speaker 2: wasn't gonna talk about that because you know, I have
- 1:07:46Speaker 2: no plans to visit Santa Fe. But okay, ah, mine
- 1:07:50Speaker 2: is called The Deadpool Don't Die, which is the Dead
- 1:07:54Speaker 2: Don't Die and Deadpool. This will make no sense to
- 1:07:58Speaker 2: almost everyone listening this, but if you've seen The Dead
- 1:08:01Speaker 2: Don't Die, be prepared for hilarity. Here we go. Bill
- 1:08:06Speaker 2: Murray has a problem. Oh I'm sorry. His character's name
- 1:08:09Speaker 2: is Cliff Robertson, chief of police of the town of Centerville,
- 1:08:13Speaker 2: and he has a problem. His problem is, as partner
- 1:08:16Speaker 2: Deadpool is a wise cracking maniac who constantly breaks the
- 1:08:20Speaker 2: fourth wall, like at the drop of a hat, and
- 1:08:24Speaker 2: there's no explanation for how or why, Like how is
- 1:08:28Speaker 2: he aware of the fourth wall? How does he know
- 1:08:30Speaker 2: that he's a character in a larger story that is
- 1:08:33Speaker 2: literally never addressed in the movie. It just is, that's
- 1:08:37Speaker 2: just Deadpool. And yeah, occasionally Deadpool references songs on the
- 1:08:41Speaker 2: radio as being the theme song for the film, which
- 1:08:44Speaker 2: is really confusing to poor Cliff. But that's just one
- 1:08:48Speaker 2: of Cliff's problems. He's also got this issue with Tilda
- 1:08:51Speaker 2: Swinton being some sort of albino scottswoman samurai all like
- 1:08:57Speaker 2: she also, I'm sorry, she's got a character name too,
- 1:08:59Speaker 2: zeld Winston. Oh, and then of course they're the zombies.
- 1:09:03Speaker 2: Have I mentioned the zombies. Well, there are zombies. That's honestly,
- 1:09:08Speaker 2: that's probably the biggest problem, or it's at least the
- 1:09:11Speaker 2: problem that's most likely to cause the most trouble, and
- 1:09:14Speaker 2: they sure do, because man, those zombies are real pain
- 1:09:17Speaker 2: in the butt, especially if they bite your butt. But
- 1:09:21Speaker 2: Cliff manages to stay unbitten for like almost the whole movie.
- 1:09:25Speaker 2: He does have to deal with other issues, though, like
- 1:09:28Speaker 2: Kluie Savini No, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. The characters Mindy Morrison,
- 1:09:32Speaker 2: she's another police officer who sadly she won't make it
- 1:09:35Speaker 2: to the end of the movie. Spoilers by the way,
- 1:09:37Speaker 2: in case you were curious about the dead don't Die,
- 1:09:40Speaker 2: or another character, the racist jerk Steve Bussemi, I'm sorry,
- 1:09:44Speaker 2: I'm sorry. That character's name is Frank Miller, which, as
- 1:09:47Speaker 2: far as I can tell, is not supposed to be
- 1:09:48Speaker 2: a reference to the comic book artist or anything like that.
- 1:09:51Speaker 2: He's this xenophobic farmer type. Or Selena Gomez. You know,
- 1:09:56Speaker 2: she is not singing in this movie, but she does
- 1:09:59Speaker 2: serve as zombie. Oh shoot, sorry spoilers again. I guess
- 1:10:03Speaker 2: we'll spawling the whole ding dang Dead Don't Die movie,
- 1:10:06Speaker 2: aren't I all right? Anyway, here's Cliff gamely going from
- 1:10:10Speaker 2: place to place in town, learning about this zombie outbreak
- 1:10:13Speaker 2: and trying to protect residents, and meanwhile, his partner, Deadpool
- 1:10:17Speaker 2: just keeps spouting off meta commentary in a way that
- 1:10:20Speaker 2: makes you wonder exactly what kind of movie are you watching? Anyway?
- 1:10:24Speaker 2: I mean, is this a straight up horror comedy, you know,
- 1:10:28Speaker 2: akin to something like Sean of the Dead, or is
- 1:10:30Speaker 2: it some sort of take on filmmaking like One Cut
- 1:10:34Speaker 2: of the Dead? Or is it just a muddle mess
- 1:10:37Speaker 2: of a film that doesn't really know what it is
- 1:10:40Speaker 2: and so it's only kinda but not really entertaining. Yeah,
- 1:10:44Speaker 2: it's probably that last one, but whatever it is. Deadpool
- 1:10:48Speaker 2: cracks wise and makes references to illicit drugs a lot
- 1:10:52Speaker 2: throughout the entire film, with Cliff frequently reminding Deadpool that
- 1:10:55Speaker 2: as a cop he needs to cool it with the
- 1:10:58Speaker 2: drug references. Ay sound just like Fige, says Deadpool, and
- 1:11:02Speaker 2: Cliff wonders who that is, because we have not yet
- 1:11:05Speaker 2: established what examples of mainstream media are actually a thing
- 1:11:09Speaker 2: in our fictional world that we are watching, and which
- 1:11:12Speaker 2: ones are not a thing there. So the movie keeps
- 1:11:15Speaker 2: going with zombies, handily whittling down the cast, which also
- 1:11:19Speaker 2: includes other cool folks like Tom Waits and Carol Kane
- 1:11:23Speaker 2: and Iggy Pop and Rosie Perez and Riza and all
- 1:11:27Speaker 2: of this is true and you can look it up
- 1:11:30Speaker 2: if you like. Anyway, Cliff comes to the realization that
- 1:11:33Speaker 2: he has absolutely no control over the situation. Maybe that's
- 1:11:36Speaker 2: the lesson. Maybe we're meant to learn that sometimes things
- 1:11:40Speaker 2: are just outside of our control, no matter how much
- 1:11:42Speaker 2: we want to help. But if that is the lesson,
- 1:11:45Speaker 2: then what the heck do we do with it? I mean,
- 1:11:47Speaker 2: that's hardly useful information. I guess you could just say, well,
- 1:11:51Speaker 2: this is beyond my control, so I might as well
- 1:11:53Speaker 2: walk into that crowd of zombies. But that hardly seems helpful.
- 1:11:57Speaker 2: It seems pretty fatalistic if you ask me. Maybe we
- 1:12:01Speaker 2: should all be like Tilda Swinton and grab a katana
- 1:12:04Speaker 2: and make zombie shish kebobs until a spaceship comes down
- 1:12:07Speaker 2: to beams us home. And yeah, I'm not making that
- 1:12:10Speaker 2: part up either. That happens in the movie. But I
- 1:12:14Speaker 2: told you this is a weird movie, and I'm not
- 1:12:16Speaker 2: really sure what I'm supposed to take from it. But
- 1:12:18Speaker 2: at least there's Deadpool, reliable, dependable Deadpool who will keep
- 1:12:23Speaker 2: making better references in jokes designed to shock you. Sure
- 1:12:27Speaker 2: the story might not make a lick of sense. Sure
- 1:12:30Speaker 2: might not ever learn a single other character's name without
- 1:12:34Speaker 2: having to actively look at IMDb. Sure I might not
- 1:12:39Speaker 2: even be able to tell someone what kind of movie
- 1:12:41Speaker 2: this is. But I know that Deadpool will be with
- 1:12:44Speaker 2: me the whole way, making irreverent comments about the film studio,
- 1:12:48Speaker 2: the script, the actors, the special effects, and anything else
- 1:12:52Speaker 2: that pulls me out of the story. Hey, considering the story,
- 1:12:55Speaker 2: maybe Deadpool's just doing me a favor the end, I
- 1:13:02Speaker 2: like it. Can you tell that I wasn't crazy about
- 1:13:05Speaker 2: the Dead Don't Die?
- 1:13:06Speaker 1: Yeah, which is unfortunate because it seemed so promising at first,
- 1:13:09Speaker 1: you know.
- 1:13:10Speaker 2: I mean, it's so for those who haven't seen it.
- 1:13:15Speaker 2: Adam Driver is the actual actor who plays the partner
- 1:13:20Speaker 2: of Bill Murray's character It's not Dead Bull spoiler alert.
- 1:13:25Speaker 2: But Adam Driver throughout the movie just occasionally makes these
- 1:13:29Speaker 2: very small but fourth wall breaking comments, and at first
- 1:13:33Speaker 2: it's just like, well, that was weird, and as it
- 1:13:35Speaker 2: goes on, you're like, Okay, this is really weird. Like
- 1:13:38Speaker 2: he's starting to make reference to things like script changes
- 1:13:41Speaker 2: and stuff which no one else in the movie does.
- 1:13:45Speaker 2: So you're like, why does this character have awareness that
- 1:13:49Speaker 2: he's a character in a movie and no one else does,
- 1:13:52Speaker 2: or if you want to go further meta, why is
- 1:13:55Speaker 2: the movie allowing this actor to acknowledge the fact that
- 1:13:58Speaker 2: he's an actor in a film as opposed to a
- 1:14:01Speaker 2: character in a world. And there's never an answer. There's
- 1:14:06Speaker 2: never an answer to it. And I'm like, I don't
- 1:14:09Speaker 2: mind you taking risky choices, but I would like to
- 1:14:12Speaker 2: know the reasoning behind it.
- 1:14:15Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think my brain just shut off.
- 1:14:24Speaker 1: But that's okay because we're at the end of the episode. Yes,
- 1:14:29Speaker 1: if you have thoughts on Jonathan's not doing it, how
- 1:14:35Speaker 1: to contact us this week because we did both a
- 1:14:37Speaker 1: discussion topic and some mashups. But if you have thoughts
- 1:14:42Speaker 1: on what we talked about or ideas, or you want
- 1:14:44Speaker 1: to be like run a Roll twenty game, or you know,
- 1:14:50Speaker 1: I wish you did this Deadpool trailer mash up fake
- 1:14:53Speaker 1: trailer thing. Let us know. You can reach out to
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- 1:15:03Speaker 1: We are Large Nerdron Collider. You can reach out to
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- 1:15:17Speaker 1: an invite to our discord, that is also up on
- 1:15:19Speaker 1: our website. And until next time. I have been aerial
- 1:15:26Speaker 1: breaking that fourth wall cast in and.
- 1:15:29Speaker 2: I have been Jonathan. I never met a commentary. I
- 1:15:33Speaker 2: didn't like Strickland.
- 1:15:35Speaker 1: That's not true.
- 1:15:37Speaker 2: No, it's not, but it was funny.
- 1:15:39Speaker 1: It was fun.
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- 1:15:51Speaker 2: published again. Curse That by Jonathan Strickland. Music by Kevin
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