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The Bolt Report | 22 October · The Bolt Report

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  Speaker 1: Is the reform.
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  Speaker 2: Well, good evening, I'm James Macpherson filling in for Andrew Bolt,
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  Speaker 2: who will be back next week tonight. Senator Lydia Thorpe
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  Speaker 2: under fire once again, this time for a disgusting social
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  Speaker 2: media post. It comes as the King weighs in on
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  Speaker 2: the climate change debate, saying Australia should embrace wind and soul,
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  Speaker 2: but he leaves out one especially important form of energy,
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  Speaker 2: and students at one of Australia's biggest Catholic universities stage
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  Speaker 2: a mass walkout after the keynote speaker at their graduation
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  Speaker 2: ceremony dares to stand up for Christianity. That's coming up shortly,
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  Speaker 2: But first, my word, Australia has changed over the past
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  Speaker 2: forty five years. His King Charles receiving a welcome to
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  Speaker 2: country back in nineteen seventy nine. No no, no, no no,
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  Speaker 2: Now that's so welcome to country I could get behind.
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  Speaker 2: This is King Charles receiving a welcome to country in
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  Speaker 2: twenty twenty four.
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  Speaker 3: Kind of side against our people.
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  Speaker 4: Get up now, land back, give us why you stall
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  Speaker 4: from us?
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  Speaker 1: How bones our.
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  Speaker 3: Scar our baby?
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  Speaker 5: That people you decided.
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  Speaker 1: We want a.
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  Speaker 6: Training in this country. Give up.
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  Speaker 4: I just this is not la, this is.
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  Speaker 2: Senator, and I used that term very loosely Lydia Thorpe's
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  Speaker 2: outburst at a parliamentary reception for the King has made
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  Speaker 2: headlines around the world. It was rude, disrespectful and embarrassing,
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  Speaker 2: but I have to say from the vision it seemed
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  Speaker 2: like King Charles and Queen Camilla were mildly.
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  Speaker 1: Amused by it.
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  Speaker 2: I can only imagine, being royals that they assumed the
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  Speaker 2: senator was actually the court jester, and of course they
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't have been far wrong. Thorpe has been playing the
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  Speaker 2: fool for years. Her taxpayer funded career in buffoonery began
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  Speaker 2: modestly enough back in twenty twenty one, when she tweeted
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  Speaker 2: support for what appeared to be an arson attempt on
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  Speaker 2: the old Parliament House. Seems like the colonial system is
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  Speaker 2: burning down. Happy New Year, everyone, she wrote at the time.
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  Speaker 2: And from those humble beginnings in idiocy, her performances became
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  Speaker 2: increasingly elaborate. In twenty twenty two, she was ordered to
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  Speaker 2: redo her oath of allegiance after referring to Queen Elizabeth
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  Speaker 2: I as a colonizer.
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  Speaker 5: I sovereign Lydia thought she's silently and sincerely care that
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  Speaker 5: I would be, and I bear true allegiance to the
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  Speaker 5: colonizing her majesty, Queen Elizabeth Senator thought.
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  Speaker 2: Now a few people congratulated thought for being a woman
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  Speaker 2: of principle. Of course, a woman of principle would have
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  Speaker 2: refused to perform the oath rather than immediately redoing it
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  Speaker 2: in order to qualify for the two hundred and fifty
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  Speaker 2: thousand dollars annual wage. Sovereignty might not have been seated,
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  Speaker 2: but there was no way Lydia Thorpe was going to
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  Speaker 2: seed a Commonwealth senator's salary.
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  Speaker 1: She's a fool, She's not stupid.
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  Speaker 2: King Charles would know only too well that court jesters
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  Speaker 2: traditionally sing and dance and tell stories, so it would
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  Speaker 2: have been impressed to learn that our clown Lydia Thorpe
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  Speaker 2: is also proficient at juggling. For years, she's juggled radical
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  Speaker 2: activism and her role as an elected senator, and in
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  Speaker 2: twenty twenty two she managed to juggle a romantic relationship
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  Speaker 2: with a former member of an outlaw biking gang and
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  Speaker 2: working on a parliamentary law enforcement committee. That's quite the routine,
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  Speaker 2: but it was last year that Thorpe really started to
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  Speaker 2: take her self appointed role as national court jester seriously.
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  Speaker 2: In February she performed this protest that Sydney's Gay and
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  Speaker 2: Lesbian Mardi Gras, and then in March she put on
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  Speaker 2: this terrifically comical performance at a women's rights rally on
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  Speaker 2: the lawns of Parliament House Kingdoms.
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  Speaker 1: The pilot opposite they know what biological fact. They set
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  Speaker 1: a bay where let's go. Th I know what you're thinking.
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  Speaker 1: How do you top that? Well, you move into street theater.
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  Speaker 2: Of course she gave this impromptu three a m recital
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  Speaker 2: outside of Melbourne Strip Club.
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  Speaker 1: Man that stands with the like that.
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  Speaker 4: Someone in Parliament your personal loves and you get.
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  Speaker 1: Out of my favor.
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  Speaker 2: But now we know that all of that was mere
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  Speaker 2: preparation for yesterday's royal gala performance. In a perfectly timed
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  Speaker 2: piece of historonics, Court just A Thorpe waited until the
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  Speaker 2: end of the king's speech before storming towards the stage,
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  Speaker 2: yelling at the monarch, you are not our king, give
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  Speaker 2: us treaty and the colony. Not since the twelfth century
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  Speaker 2: when Roland Defarta, who used to finish each performance for
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  Speaker 2: King Henry the Second with a simultaneous jump, whistle and fart.
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  Speaker 2: Had British royals been treated to such inanity? It's true
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  Speaker 2: Lydia Thorpe is not much of a flatulist, but her
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  Speaker 2: attitude sure stinks. After yesterday's rollicking routine, King Charles must
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  Speaker 2: have been sorely tempted to take Lydia Thorpe back to
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  Speaker 2: Buckingham Palace where she could have had him in hysterics
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  Speaker 2: every day, But of course the British already have Keir
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  Speaker 2: Starmer for that. As for Lydia Thorpe, she told ABC
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  Speaker 2: Radio she intends to delight Australian audiences with her comical
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  Speaker 2: performative outrage for at least another three years.
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  Speaker 6: I will be there for another three years. Everybody, so
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  Speaker 6: you get used to truth telling and my approach unfortunately
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  Speaker 6: might upset a few people. But how else do you
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  Speaker 6: get your message across when we're continued, continually shut down
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  Speaker 6: as black.
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  Speaker 5: Women, And on and on.
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  Speaker 2: She went with her predictable shtick about not having assimilated.
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  Speaker 2: She's in the Senate under duress in order to represent
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  Speaker 2: her people, by which of course she doesn't mean the
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  Speaker 2: people of Victoria, who now are stuck with her as
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  Speaker 2: they're representative under duress. But there were two moments of
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  Speaker 2: understated humor that Thorpe does so well, proving that despite
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  Speaker 2: mixed reviews over yesterday's performance, she hasn't lost her comic touch.
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  Speaker 6: Every time I see him in Parliament he walks in
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  Speaker 6: the opposite direction, so he never wants to sit down
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  Speaker 6: and have a conversation. I'm not sure why.
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  Speaker 2: I can't imagine why Peter Dutton runs in the other
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  Speaker 2: direction either, And this comment made me smile.
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  Speaker 6: I'm not looking to be re elected.
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  Speaker 2: Well, let's be honest. I don't think there's much danger
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  Speaker 2: of that. But let's give the final word to Lydia Thorpe.
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  Speaker 1: What kind of person do you think?
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  Speaker 2: I am, well as King Charles and Queen Camilla, and
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  Speaker 2: now the whole world know. You are the court jester,
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  Speaker 2: of course, a mildly amusing fool who regularly entertains. Of course,
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  Speaker 2: we're stuck paying your salary for another three years, so
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  Speaker 2: I guess joke's on us. Joining me is National Senator
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  Speaker 2: Matt Canavan. Matt, welcome. We have to start with Lydia Thorpe.
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  Speaker 2: Should she resign and if she won't resign. Is there
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  Speaker 2: not a mechanism in the Parliament for her to be removed?
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  Speaker 7: Well, good questions. Look, I don't think anything I say
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  Speaker 7: is going to change Lydia's mind one way or another.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, if she does resign, we'll just get a
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  Speaker 7: radical Green activist to replace. So that's how the Senate
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  Speaker 7: system works. So I'm not sure that will be an improvement.
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  Speaker 7: In fact, of course, it's because people voted to the
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  Speaker 7: Greens that we've ended up with Lydia Thorpe and this
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  Speaker 7: kind of conduct and behavior. Look in terms of other issues,
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  Speaker 7: you know, we've got to make sure we don't have
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  Speaker 7: a system where politicians are not seeking to be in
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  Speaker 7: Judge dury execution of other politicians. You know that ends up.
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  Speaker 7: Just look at the US for the weaponization of their
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  Speaker 7: parliamentary and judicial processes. I don't want to go down
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  Speaker 7: that path, but look where there has to be a
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  Speaker 7: look here at what can be done to make sure
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  Speaker 7: we don't have these sort of events arenecessarily disrupted like this.
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  Speaker 7: It's an embarrassment too for our country. It's ruined a
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  Speaker 7: day that many people would have been looking forward to,
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  Speaker 7: and it's completely selfish and self Senator Senator for anybody,
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  Speaker 7: especially an elected official like Lydia Thorpe, to make her
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  Speaker 7: self the center of attention when others just wanted to
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  Speaker 7: be there to respectfully welcome their King to Australia.
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  Speaker 2: As if yesterday's outburst wasn't bad enough, Matt, a cartoon
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  Speaker 2: image of the King beheaded was posted to Lydia Thorpe's
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  Speaker 2: Instagram account. Now she since deleted it, and she claims
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  Speaker 2: it was posted by one of her staffers. She says
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  Speaker 2: she would never intentionally share anything that could be seen
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  Speaker 2: to encourage violence against anyone. But then I'm reminded that
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  Speaker 2: this was her on Australia Day last year.
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  Speaker 1: Have a look this is now, Matt.
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  Speaker 2: That sounds like encouraging violence to me, What do you
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  Speaker 2: make of this Instagram post?
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  Speaker 1: It was a staffer apparently.
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  Speaker 7: Well, I don't think it's good form to blame your staff.
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  Speaker 7: I think the buck's got to stop with you. You're
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  Speaker 7: my staff are an All staff in Parliament House are
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  Speaker 7: very hard working and they obviously don't have the capacity
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  Speaker 7: to defend themselves like Lydia does like I do, so
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  Speaker 7: I think the better course there was just being a copy. However,
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  Speaker 7: it happened. She's got to take responsibility for it, and
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  Speaker 7: at least she has deleted. But it's a shocking and
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  Speaker 7: terrible post. Look, you know, I wish I had your
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  Speaker 7: confidence that she won't be reelected. I don't know these
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  Speaker 7: sort of stunts. I suppose that typically now the oxygen
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  Speaker 7: of these independent senators in our parliament, and I suppose
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  Speaker 7: i'd encourage people to think carefully about your vote. You
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  Speaker 7: really don't know what you're getting with some of these
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  Speaker 7: cross benches from time to time, and they've ended up
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  Speaker 7: turning our Senate, turning our Parliament into a bit of
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  Speaker 7: a circus.
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  Speaker 2: Matt, can I just say on that cartoon that she posted,
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  Speaker 2: I mean to post a picture of the king beheaded,
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  Speaker 2: especially when Islamic extremism is such a massive thing around
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  Speaker 2: the world right now. It's just, I mean, it's worse
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  Speaker 2: than bad taste. It's just absolutely shocking from anybody to
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  Speaker 2: post that littlelone and elected senator in this country. It
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  Speaker 2: just beggars belief. This royal to was going so well.
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  Speaker 2: Don't worry about Lydia Thorpe. She was really just a blip.
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  Speaker 2: But then King Charles couldn't help himself Matt, but way
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  Speaker 2: into the climate change debate.
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  Speaker 1: He was doing so well until he went and said this.
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  Speaker 8: The regular role of unprecedented events is an unmistakable sign
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  Speaker 8: of climate change to which Australia is so particularly vulnerable.
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  Speaker 8: Australia has all the natural ingredients to create a more sustainable,
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  Speaker 8: regenerative way of living by harnessing the power with which
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  Speaker 8: nature has endowed the nation, whether it be wind or
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  Speaker 8: it's famous sunshine, Australia is tracking the path towards a
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  Speaker 8: better and safer future.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so Matt, did you notice what I noticed?
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  Speaker 1: The wind?
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  Speaker 2: You know, the sunshine, But there's no mention of nuclear energy.
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  Speaker 2: I'll defend the king from lidiar thought, but he's not
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  Speaker 2: the one paying the energy bills in this country.
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  Speaker 1: Is he.
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  Speaker 7: Well, see, it's very strye that the British King didn't
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  Speaker 7: mention nuclear energy given Britain is developing. His government in
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  Speaker 7: Britain is building a nuclear powerstache to the moment, even
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  Speaker 7: the elected Labor government there has been strong advocate, a
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  Speaker 7: strong advocate for nuclear energy. I do think this is
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  Speaker 7: incredibly regrettable on the Lydia thoughpe front. I think her
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  Speaker 7: behavior as unacceptable as it is. Her behavior has actually
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  Speaker 7: helped the Monarcha's cause, if you like. It's a reminder
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  Speaker 7: to everybody that there are some Republicans out there that
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  Speaker 7: really want to tear our country down. It's what turns
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  Speaker 7: a lot of Austroans away from that cause. Unfortunately, I
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  Speaker 7: have to say here the king entering into political contemporary
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  Speaker 7: political debates like this does damage to the Monarcha's cause
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  Speaker 7: because this system works, and I support the system, not
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  Speaker 7: because I have some great love for the British Crown
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  Speaker 7: Irish Catholic Italian descent. I don't have a great love
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  Speaker 7: for the British Crown, but I have a love for
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  Speaker 7: our system, and our system works best when the head
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  Speaker 7: of state the Crown keeps himself for herself, separate from
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  Speaker 7: the political controversies of the day to day battle in
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  Speaker 7: our parliaments. That way, they're in a position to play
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  Speaker 7: the role role they really have tangible role under the
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  Speaker 7: Constitution is to play the role of independent umpire if
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  Speaker 7: and when things go wrong, and they will not be
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  Speaker 7: seen as an independent umpire if they insert themselves as
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  Speaker 7: a day day political debates. So I think this is
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  Speaker 7: very unwise and I hope it doesn't become a pattern.
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  Speaker 1: You are exactly right.
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  Speaker 2: Moving to Queensland, the election will be held this weekend.
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  Speaker 2: Tonight is the final leader's debate between Steven Miles and
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  Speaker 2: David chris A fully coming up right after this program.
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  Speaker 2: You'd have to think the LNP will get across the line, wouldn't.
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  Speaker 1: You, Although the top of the polls are tightening.
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  Speaker 7: Look, winning government's always difficult the ONP my side, I
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  Speaker 7: want them to win. We need a change of government
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  Speaker 7: in Queensland, but there's a lot of seats to win
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  Speaker 7: after the COVID boost that labor got back in twenty twenty,
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  Speaker 7: so it's a tough amount to climb. But I've been
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  Speaker 7: on the booths most days of the last week and
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  Speaker 7: there's a great sentiment for desire for change there in Queensland.
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  Speaker 7: Things have not been going well. Crimes out of control,
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  Speaker 7: our hospitals just don't seem you working on so many stories,
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  Speaker 7: shocking stories from voters who have had to wait weeks
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  Speaker 7: for basic surgeries given the state of our public hospital system.
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  Speaker 7: Our roads are crumbling, the Bruce Highways in a shocking state.
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  Speaker 7: I think our government needs to be sent a message
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  Speaker 7: and we just need some change to get things moving
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  Speaker 7: again in Queensland.
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  Speaker 2: Matt as a Queenslander, can you tell me Miles has
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  Speaker 2: tried to make the whole thing about abortion, which really
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  Speaker 2: wasn't an issue at all. Is that cutting through and
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  Speaker 2: is that going to change votes or is that just
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  Speaker 2: background noise from Stephen Miles.
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  Speaker 7: Well, look, it's always hard for me to judge. You know,
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  Speaker 7: you only get to talk to a few voters as
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  Speaker 7: they come in. But it is a bit surprising to
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  Speaker 7: me because whatever your views are on this issue, it's
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  Speaker 7: not something that gets raised all that often by the
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  Speaker 7: average voter. It's not something that I find it cushions
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  Speaker 7: with people door knocking, otherwise just being available to people
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  Speaker 7: in the shops. Whoever it comes up to me. I mean,
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  Speaker 7: right now, people are just concerned about keeping their head
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  Speaker 7: above water, keeping their budget under control. This seems very
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  Speaker 7: strange to be campaigning on it. I suppose the rationale
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  Speaker 7: logic behind it could be just simply trying to lock
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  Speaker 7: in the Labor Party's base, locking their base vote. They
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  Speaker 7: have been I think losing support since they change from
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  Speaker 7: our stage of pali shape. Certainly, the polls indicate that
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  Speaker 7: the anger of the streets indicates that and maybe this
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  Speaker 7: is a desperate attempt just to keep as many of
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  Speaker 7: their voters on site as possible.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it certainly seems desperate to me, Matt Canavan, appreciate
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  Speaker 2: your time tonight.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you well.
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  Speaker 2: Coming up after the break, students at one of Australia's
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  Speaker 2: biggest Catholic universities walk out of their graduation ceremony because
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  Speaker 2: they didn't like the keynote speaker talking about Christianity and
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  Speaker 2: is welcome to country becoming too common?
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  Speaker 1: All of that with our panel in just a moment
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  Speaker 1: welcome back.
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  Speaker 2: Well you'd imagine the word Catholic in the name Australian
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  Speaker 2: Catholic University would offer a clue, wouldn't you. But students
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  Speaker 2: at the university's graduation ceremony last night were apparently shocked
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  Speaker 2: to realize Catholic actually means Catholic. Ninety five percent of
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  Speaker 2: the crowd apparently walked out of the ceremony midway through
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  Speaker 2: the main address when keynotes speaker Joe de Bruin mentioned
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  Speaker 2: that abortion and same sex marriage were contrary to Christian belief.
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  Speaker 1: Graduating students and.
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  Speaker 2: Their families were evidently so offended by the former union
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  Speaker 2: boss mentioning that, you know, we shouldn't kill babies in utro,
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  Speaker 2: that's not the Christian thing to do. They preferred to
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  Speaker 2: leave then to collect their degrees. Let me bring in
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  Speaker 2: my panel, Will Kingston, host of Fire at Will, a
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  Speaker 2: podcast from The Spectator on politics and culture, and Sky News'
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  Speaker 2: host Danika de Giorgio.
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  Speaker 1: Guys, thanks for joining me, Will.
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  Speaker 2: These students want the benefit of a Christian education without
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  Speaker 2: the Christianity.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, James, And you're right. They aren't hunting
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  Speaker 3: and it is in the name. Here's the thing, though,
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  Speaker 3: the universities have brought this sort of behavior entirely upon
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  Speaker 3: themselves for decades now. They have cultivated a culture whereby
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  Speaker 3: they panneder to woke students through things like safe spaces,
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  Speaker 3: by canceling right wing speakers when they appear on campus,
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  Speaker 3: and by creating this perception that words are violence when
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  Speaker 3: you go through high school and then university in that culture,
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  Speaker 3: is it really surprising that when you hear a threatening
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  Speaker 3: view that may be different to your own, you don't
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  Speaker 3: just sit politely. You actually then stand up and say
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  Speaker 3: I'm not going to tolerate this. This is on the
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  Speaker 3: university just as much as it is on those woke students.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with what you're saying, but I mean
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  Speaker 2: they're at a Catholic university, so they shouldn't be, you know,
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  Speaker 2: blindsided by a Catholic talking as Catholics do. Denika, I'm
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  Speaker 2: shocked by the reaction to this. A lot of people
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  Speaker 2: have criticized the university, saying a Bible believing Catholic was
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  Speaker 2: a poor choice of graduation speaker. What should the Catholic
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  Speaker 2: university have done? Should they have had an atheist speak?
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  Speaker 4: Well, of course not James. But my take on this
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  Speaker 4: is is that, Okay, this is a Catholic university, so
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  Speaker 4: sure Catholic students go there, But how many of these
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  Speaker 4: students I would be curious to know are genuinely practicing
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  Speaker 4: Catholicism on a day by day basis. I'm talking actually
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  Speaker 4: studying Catholicism.
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  Speaker 1: Are they going to church?
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  Speaker 4: Do they really believe truly in the principles of it?
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  Speaker 4: Or is this a case of mom and Dad made
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  Speaker 4: me get a Communion when I was younger. So I've
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  Speaker 4: always been raised as a Catholic, but I'm not necessarily
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  Speaker 4: a practicing Catholic. So there's two very different I don't
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  Speaker 4: know why you go to a Catholic school, but in
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  Speaker 4: the end, that's what people do. If they're going to
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  Speaker 4: get in, if they're going to be able to enroll,
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  Speaker 4: then why wouldn't they. I think this is also just
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  Speaker 4: a case of the perpetua outraged. Everything is offensive, and
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  Speaker 4: I do think this man, the man who spoke there,
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  Speaker 4: he obviously has a right to free speech. He's allowed
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  Speaker 4: to say what he can in what should be a
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: safe environment. But I don't think there's any true Catholics
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: in that audience.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: The term nonpracticing always makes me laugh. I'm a nonpracticing
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: test opening batsman. But tell a lot of people don't
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: know that King Charles and Queen Camilla arrived in Sydney
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: today and right on que the statue of Queen Victoria
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: in Sydney CBD was defaced with red paint.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: Surprise, surprise.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: I can't believe that the woke mob seriously think vandalism
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: like this is going to win anybody to their Republican cause.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: So the real reason for this must just be that
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: people are very angry, and it occurs to me, Denika,
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: there's a really ugly undercurrent in Australian culture at the moment.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: That really concerns me. Do you feel that?
• 20:59
  Speaker 6: Oh?
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, look, we've been speaking for many months now
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: about culture wars on this channel, and I believe that
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: this is a direct example of the culture wars that
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: we're seeing playing out in this country Australia. Day the voice,
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: kids being welcome to country as soon as they enter
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: their classrooms, kids being told to apologize to the stolen
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: generation what for? I mean, they're being blamed for something
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: that they didn't do. And then what happens is this
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: next generation that's been completely brainwashed into thinking that they
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: shouldn't be proud of this country, that they should hate
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: this country.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: And suddenly we've got this.
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: Monument being vandalized, We've got Captain cook statues being cut
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: at the feet. So these people, as part of their
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: crazed anti Australia protests, now have to commit crimes just
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: to try and get their point across. And it's sad, James,
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: that this progressive left is slowly infiltrating, trying to destroy
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: everything that British settlement came when they came to Australia.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: They just wanted to destroy that.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: Niki, you make a great point and will. This is
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: what concerns me. It's like if people don't get they want,
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: then they resort to vandalism, violence and worse. That's the
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: thing I really don't like about where we're headed. I
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: don't know how we stop that. You're in London at
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: the moment.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: I want to.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: Ask you, what's the reaction been, both in the media
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: and just people you're talking to about Lydia Thorpe's actions yesterday.
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: Well, it has received quite a bit of coverage in
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: the British media. Fortunately, most of the British press realized
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: what Australians realized a long time ago, in that she's
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: an absolute fruit loop. So I don't think they've taken
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: it particularly seriously. But I'll tell you what I think
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: they did take seriously, and that was the response of
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: the various Australian premiers when they decided not to meet
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: Charles and Camilla, which I just thought was incredibly rude
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: and disrespectful. And I think that's the way that it
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: came across there over here as well. So whilst I
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: don't think someone like a Lydia Thorpe has particularly moved
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: the dial, having our state leaders showed that lack of
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: respect for the King and the Queen certainly did make
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: the pages of the Telegraph and GBN News and the
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: various other media organizations.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: Here will you make a really good point.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: As outrageous as Lydia Thorpe's behavior was, the premier's boycotting,
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: that reception for the king was arguably a lot worse.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: Really good point.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: While we're on Indigenous issues, I want to get your
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: thoughts on something Indigenous Senator just sinf Nampa jimber Price
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: said earlier today. She said that welcome to country is
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: now so ubiquitous it's almost become a throwaway line and
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: that maybe we should just reserve it for very special occasions.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: Have listen to what she said.
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: Welcome to country, which has just become a sort of
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: a throwaway acknowledgement to country, sort of throwaway lines at
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: the beginning of every meeting, every event, every aeroplane flight.
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: It's just become nonsensical. Now, an Australian's want common sense,
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: practical ways forward that.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: Really brings that spirit of Australia together.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: So the nikoa, the suggestion is welcome to country just
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: gets used on very special occasions. What do you think
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: I don't think we should have it at all.
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: To be frank, I do not think we should have
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: it at all either.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: It is overdone.
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: I think people have tuned out to it, the sick
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: and tired of it, not even for special occasions when
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: you've got people like just sent a Nampagin propries saying no,
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: it's now irrelevant. That's the sort of voices that we
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: should be listening to because they're the Indigenous voices that
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: are really the voice of reason.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: And she's right.
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: You know, you fly from Sydney to Melbourne, welcome to country.
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm only flying an hour and I'm still
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: being welcomed into my country. But I think there's two
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: parts this one. It's the Parliament's fault. It is our
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: politician's fault, because the welcome to country is still going.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: On in there.
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: Even the other day when the King was doing and
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: addressed in you South Parliament, he was standing in front
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: of an Aboriginal flag. Now I know that the Australian
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: flag was there, but all you could see was the
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: Aboriginal flag. And secondly, it's institutions that are so weak
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: to stand up against it that they feel obliged to
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: do a welcome to country at every event. Because they
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: fear that they're going to be called racists or bigots,
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: they've got to stand up to it.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, Hey, In just a couple of minutes, Queensland Premier
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: Steve Miles and Opposition leader David chris A Fuley will
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: go head to head in the final leader's debate before
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: polls open on Saturday.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: Will. I just want to get a very quick comment
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: from you.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: Surely David chris A fully wins this election, but has
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: he's been too clever by half in this playing a
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: small target?
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: Just really quickly.
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: No, I think you need to play a small target.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: Whenever I see step Miles on social media is throwing
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: more money away Queenslanders can't afford it. I think this
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: should be a relatively simple win for the College and government.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: I certainly hope you're right. Will and the NIKA appreciate
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: your time tonight. Thanks so much. Well, that's all I've
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: got time for this evening.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: I'll be back tomorrow night.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: But don't go anywhere because coming up now is the
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: final leader's debate ahead of this weekend's Queensland election.