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Dr. Kroupa's Natural Health Hours 1-22-25 with Doc, Suzi, and Bill · Dave Kroupa (DOC)'s show

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  Speaker 2: Welcome everybody, Doctor Cripps Natural Health Hours and we have
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  Speaker 2: Susie back with us. And if you're listening to the show,
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  Speaker 2: it is because it's posted after we recorded it live today.
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  Speaker 2: It does get posted at the end of the show
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  Speaker 2: today and you will be hearing it on many, many
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  Speaker 2: many places, So we apologize for that. We've needed some
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  Speaker 2: help from poor Susie, who has been sick beyond belief,
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  Speaker 2: to work with our friend Steve O'Brien on finishing some
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  Speaker 2: final touches. But we hope maybe by next week or
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  Speaker 2: so to be broadcasting this one on a recorded format,
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  Speaker 2: and the same time we're broadcasting this recorded one, it
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  Speaker 2: will be going live to rumble. We're almost set up,
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  Speaker 2: I think, so anyway, welcome back, Susie. We have mister
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  Speaker 2: and worried about her. And Bill's here, so we're all
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  Speaker 2: on Skype and Susie and Bill if you guys would
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  Speaker 2: like to say hello and Susie takeaway.
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  Speaker 4: Hi everyone. I'm glad to be back and I'm glad
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  Speaker 4: you're joining us.
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  Speaker 5: Folks.
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  Speaker 2: All right, guys, right now we have about nine countries
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  Speaker 2: want to call him, Ireland, Sweden, Nigeria, Spain, Kenya, Canada
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  Speaker 2: and Australia. So for all you in those places, and
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  Speaker 2: I know you're listening after the fact, thank you so much.
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  Speaker 2: We are so grateful, humbled, and it is just it's
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  Speaker 2: just such a wonderful feeling that you know that you're
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  Speaker 2: listening to us all around the world. It is just wonderful.
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  Speaker 2: So we thank you very much for that. All right,
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  Speaker 2: it's been a little tough, Suzz. He's been bad, sick,
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  Speaker 2: and I've been dealing with the patient with numbness and
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  Speaker 2: healing on the left side of the body. Finally, and
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  Speaker 2: I am so so fed up with the medical system.
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  Speaker 2: I took the patient for an MRI on the fifteenth.
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  Speaker 2: This started on December ninth, and I couldn't get her
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  Speaker 2: in anywhere. And nobody seemed very concerned when you tell
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  Speaker 2: them that we're dealing with this situation. And I don't
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  Speaker 2: understand that. If you'd have called me and said, my
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  Speaker 2: wife or girlfriend or brother or whatever, whoever it was,
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  Speaker 2: has got this problem or any kind of a bad problem,
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  Speaker 2: I would have said, let's see them immediately, and if necessary,
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  Speaker 2: let's send them for diagnostic testing right away. Nobody seemed motivated.
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  Speaker 2: The one office that my radiologist friend called, who own
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  Speaker 2: Houston MRI. He recommended I go to this particular doctor
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  Speaker 2: who was also a DC and the nurse practitioner so
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  Speaker 2: he could do all the stuff. They said, Oh, we'll
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  Speaker 2: be glad to get you in in February, and this
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  Speaker 2: is I called them, like December tenth. I couldn't believe it.
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  Speaker 2: I also asked to speak to the doctor, and I
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  Speaker 2: never got that. If you called my office in the
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  Speaker 2: days of full blown staff, they would always get me
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  Speaker 2: on the phone. If you asked to talk to me,
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  Speaker 2: they would have never done that. Somewhere along the line,
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  Speaker 2: respect and concern has fallen by the wayside and everything's
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  Speaker 2: about money now and I don't understand that, I guess
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  Speaker 2: because I've never had much money. But anyway, I'm going nuts.
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  Speaker 2: We took her on the fifteenth and I asked them
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  Speaker 2: to have my friend and read the report, read the
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  Speaker 2: films that we did a brain MRI and a cervical
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  Speaker 2: spine MRI, and I asked them and says it on
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  Speaker 2: their pharm to email me their report. Well, Wednesday was detesting,
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  Speaker 2: Thursday and Friday past, Saturday and Sunday pass. Monday was
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  Speaker 2: a holiday. So finally on Tuesday, I called my friend
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  Speaker 2: the radiologist because on Tuesday and Wednesday everybody was closed
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  Speaker 2: because they were expecting the world to end down here
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  Speaker 2: and it didn't even snow today, but they predicted the
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  Speaker 2: end of the world with snow in the Houston area.
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  Speaker 2: So anyway, I got my friend on the phone and
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  Speaker 2: it turns out there's a portal you could log into,
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  Speaker 2: and he said, we don't send email reports, but it
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  Speaker 2: said it on the farm and nobody bothered to let
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  Speaker 2: me know that it was in the portal for doctors
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  Speaker 2: where you go log in for Houston. MRI's portal for doctors.
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  Speaker 2: So anyway, I finally get and I had a CD,
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  Speaker 2: but I haven't used their software in a long time,
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  Speaker 2: and it was very difficult for me looking at this
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  Speaker 2: CD without a report, knowing for sure that I was
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  Speaker 2: seeing what the radiologists who does it every day all
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  Speaker 2: day long sees. So finally I get the report and
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  Speaker 2: I'm reading through there and there's there was some activity
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  Speaker 2: at C three and four, C five and six, some
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  Speaker 2: phamenal encroachment, which is just a hole where the nerves
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  Speaker 2: come out. On C six some one DISC had some
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  Speaker 2: degenerative disease stuff going on, I think C five, and
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  Speaker 2: so I'm reading through and I'm trying to find everything
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  Speaker 2: on the brain MRI and the cervical spine MRI on
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  Speaker 2: the reports. But I had the DISC before I had
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  Speaker 2: the reports, and that was very difficult because I just
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  Speaker 2: I don't do that every day. I know the nutrition
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  Speaker 2: on the top of my head, I know the chiropractic
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  Speaker 2: stuff on the top of my head, but I don't
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  Speaker 2: read films every day. And this was also new software,
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  Speaker 2: so it was very difficult. But I finally got the
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  Speaker 2: report after finding out it was on the portal since
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  Speaker 2: the sixteenth but nobody bothered to let me know. And
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  Speaker 2: I don't get that because this is important and this
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  Speaker 2: is scary, and if you look up and say this
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  Speaker 2: is a stroke, it could be deadly. They could have
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  Speaker 2: died the same time it happened. But nobody called me,
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  Speaker 2: Nobody did nothing, just stayed in the wings. So anyway,
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  Speaker 2: I'm reading the report and what my friend did. He
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  Speaker 2: read the cervical spine, but the brain had more going on.
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  Speaker 2: So he sent that to a neurologist, a neuro radiologist
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  Speaker 2: who's also a neurologist and an MD, and then he
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  Speaker 2: read it for the brain and my friend read the
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  Speaker 2: cervical So in the brain thing, it says very minor
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  Speaker 2: small ponting lesion in fart on the right side of
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  Speaker 2: the ponds. Well, in the brain, the ponds is in
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  Speaker 2: the middle of the brain stem and right below it
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  Speaker 2: is the medulla oblongata and that's where the nerves cross.
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  Speaker 2: So when you when your nerves leave the brain and
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  Speaker 2: connect to the spinal cord, they cross in the medulla there.
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  Speaker 2: So the right side goes to the left and the
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  Speaker 2: left side goes to the right. So guess what We've
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  Speaker 2: got a patient with numbness and tingling down the left
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  Speaker 2: side of the body, trouble with gait on the left foot,
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  Speaker 2: trouble with using the hand on the left side. So
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  Speaker 2: that means it's coming from the right side in the brain,
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  Speaker 2: and it matches perfectly where they say they see this
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  Speaker 2: little ponting lesion. And again, this is something if if
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  Speaker 2: I saw this at my office, I would be calling
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  Speaker 2: somebody and letting them know. I wouldn't I wouldn't expect
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  Speaker 2: them to go check on the portal or do any
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  Speaker 2: of that, especially if they haven't done one in a
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  Speaker 2: long time. So now I'm horrificating, and I go talk
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  Speaker 2: to the patient and I said, it looks like you
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  Speaker 2: had a small stroke. I said, in fact, I'm about
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  Speaker 2: one hundred percent sure that you had a small stroke.
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  Speaker 2: And they don't want to say that. They they say, well,
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  Speaker 2: it could be some kind of a blood disease or
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  Speaker 2: arterial problem, but it to get this little ponting thing
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  Speaker 2: to show up, and just so happens that that's one
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  Speaker 2: of the symptoms is left side of the body numbness
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  Speaker 2: and tingling when the infarc is on the right side
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  Speaker 2: of the ponds and then it crosses down in the
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  Speaker 2: medulla oblongata where the brain nerves all switched sides of
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  Speaker 2: the body. Why god ever did that, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: And him and I aren't talking very well lately. So anyway,
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  Speaker 2: I went and I've decided, Okay, we're gonna They recommend
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  Speaker 2: you go see a neurologist, and I asked, do you
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  Speaker 2: know any and my friend said no. They said, I
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  Speaker 2: know some neurosurgeons, but you don't need that right now.
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  Speaker 2: You need a neurologist. And first saying the patient says,
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  Speaker 2: what are they going to do? And I said, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know. They claim, if you get to the hospital
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  Speaker 2: within the three or four hour window of this little
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  Speaker 2: stroke happening, that they have a possibility of injecting you
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  Speaker 2: with something that stops it. Well, that's all well and good,
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  Speaker 2: but you have a couple problems. One, this patient absolutely
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  Speaker 2: positively refused to go to any emergency room, especially after
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  Speaker 2: they've seen on TV night after night in the news
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  Speaker 2: where people are waiting four and five hours and not
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  Speaker 2: getting seen or giving a bottle of aspirin and sent home.
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  Speaker 2: And secondly, this patient was so sick and nauseated and
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  Speaker 2: thrown up they couldn't have gone anywhere. I spent a
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  Speaker 2: large part of my day just trying to get them
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  Speaker 2: rehydrated and the nausea and everything to stop so we
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  Speaker 2: could try to see what was going on. And I
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  Speaker 2: think I said on the show, my worst fear was
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  Speaker 2: a small stroke or a tumor, But I never seen
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  Speaker 2: anything like this in all my years of doing this. Ever,
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  Speaker 2: my first patient ever as an intern in the clinic
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  Speaker 2: was after a stroke, but he'd had a real bad
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  Speaker 2: stroke and it really messed him up bad. And I
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  Speaker 2: didn't know enough about nutrition to spell nutrition back then,
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  Speaker 2: so I worked with him getting back all the function
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  Speaker 2: that he used to have by relearning how to do everything,
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  Speaker 2: and it was the most fun and rewarding time. So
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  Speaker 2: now with my patient here at home, this is personal,
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  Speaker 2: this is family, this is killing me, and I'm feeling well,
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  Speaker 2: first I'm worried about Susie too, and then I'm worried
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  Speaker 2: about this, and i feel like I've failed everybody, and
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  Speaker 2: I'm just beside myself. It was a stressful, stressful, stressful time.
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  Speaker 2: Thank god, I already drink, but I would have started
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  Speaker 2: if I didn't. So I went and I said, okay,
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  Speaker 2: you got two choices. You treat this like stroke recovery,
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  Speaker 2: and you treat this like maybe there's a tiny block
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  Speaker 2: heat somewhere and you can try to unblock it. So
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  Speaker 2: that means you got to get a lot of products. Well, unfortunately,
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  Speaker 2: the poor patient says, what are we gonna do about money?
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  Speaker 2: I said, we're gonna We're gonna work it out. And
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  Speaker 2: even worse than that, last night, they said to me,
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  Speaker 2: what if I die? Oh my god, you talk about
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: feeling worthless. And I said, we're gonna make sure that
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  Speaker 2: doesn't happen. I'm gonna do everything I can to keep
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  Speaker 2: you healthy and try to figure this out. And I said,
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  Speaker 2: we're gonna go see the neurologists just in case there's
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  Speaker 2: something I've never heard. And when I did my research,
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  Speaker 2: and I hate research, you guys know that, But when
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  Speaker 2: I did a little research, it doesn't seem to be
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  Speaker 2: very much they can do. Uh, And especially in this case.
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  Speaker 2: The ponds is very small. It connects the brain to
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  Speaker 2: the spinal cord, and this little spot on there that
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  Speaker 2: they're calling a lesion in part is pretty small. But
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  Speaker 2: if it is the stroke as I believe it is,
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  Speaker 2: of my heart and soul, it was caused because for
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  Speaker 2: a moment, blood was stopped from getting to a certain
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  Speaker 2: part of the brain. And this was very strange because
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: the patient was here when this happened, and they were
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  Speaker 2: sitting out in the patio and I was on the phone,
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  Speaker 2: and they came in and sat down like everything was fine,
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  Speaker 2: And when I got off the phone, they said, I
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  Speaker 2: have numbness and tingling down the whole left side of
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  Speaker 2: my body. When I stood up out there, I got nauseated.
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  Speaker 2: And then a few moments later they threw up, and
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: then a little while later they threw up, and then
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  Speaker 2: a little while later they threw up. And this went
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  Speaker 2: on for five or six times in the course of
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  Speaker 2: that day before I got things calmed down and we
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  Speaker 2: could start addressing it. And the first thought they went
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  Speaker 2: through my mind was maybe something in the cervical's fine,
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  Speaker 2: because they they would go sit out of there and
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  Speaker 2: they would turn sometimes their neck instead of get up
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  Speaker 2: and take this thing off the fans so you could
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  Speaker 2: suck the air out of there if somebody was out
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  Speaker 2: there smoking. So I thought, well, maybe he just maybe
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  Speaker 2: something like that happened. But then I got to thinking,
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  Speaker 2: I've never seen a case where anything on the cervical
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  Speaker 2: spine could affect the whole left side of the body.
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  Speaker 2: Never so then I thought tumor or a small stroke. Well,
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  Speaker 2: it looks like I was right, and I oh, I
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: so wanted to be wrong. So now I bought a
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  Speaker 2: lot of products so that we can address it as
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  Speaker 2: maybe there's a tiny clot somewhere and we can improve
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  Speaker 2: that microcirculation and at the same time try to heal
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  Speaker 2: and recover and pray something good happens. So for anybody listening,
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  Speaker 2: if you've got a stroke patient in the family or
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  Speaker 2: friend or you, you want ginko, you want vidin ox.
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  Speaker 2: You want bacoba, which is a brain food. You want
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: Herba vityl. You want garlic. It is wonderful for getting
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: blood circulating. You want cataplex bcore. You want cataplex B two,
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  Speaker 2: which used to be called cataplex G, which is in cardioplus.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: I'm using cardioplus, but I'm going to get some B two. Also.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: You want neurotrophin PMG for this is strictly for the
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: brain and neuro tissue, but brain in particular. You want
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: easy mag it's a magnesium, calcium phosphorus. A few other
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: products very important. You want turmeric? You want? Oh, this
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  Speaker 2: is a few other things. Circuplex, maybe cataplex B six,
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  Speaker 2: nice cinemide B six for the nerve function, nice cinamide
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: for blood float, nice Cinemi'd be six, flip the other way,
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  Speaker 2: a different product for different percentages. Trying to think of
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  Speaker 2: what else. So anyway, I'm doing all this, and I
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  Speaker 2: spent a fortune buying products yesterday, which worry the patient
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  Speaker 2: and me, but you know what, the hell with it.
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  Speaker 2: I'll figure it all out. But right now I'm just
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  Speaker 2: praying that's something I'm doing. Oh, I'm also using Strauss
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: and Naturals heart drops. It's got garlic, it's got caienne,
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: which is very good for circulation. And I've set up
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: a schedule and put it on the on the cabinet
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: so that and the patient's been really good. Uh, most
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  Speaker 2: of the most of the ones of my family, daughter
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: and Cheryl and everybody. They hate taking stuff. They haven't
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  Speaker 2: argued a single bit this time, not one single bit.
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  Speaker 2: Smoking is involved, but the natural cigarettes, not the really
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  Speaker 2: bad ones. But yet that could be a player in this,
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: and it could be any damn thing that just happened.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: I don't really know, but it's It got me to thinking,
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  Speaker 2: the person does not take the vitamins and one and
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: one of the things they would take every morning if
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: I set it out is cardio plus and I make
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: sure they chew it. And you know, everybody in the
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: family knows we're gonna chew cardio plus. And I feel
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  Speaker 2: a little guilty that I didn't insist on doing that
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  Speaker 2: when you first get up in the morning, because what
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  Speaker 2: happens to the body is all the systems are starting
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: up in the morning, and blood pressures the highest and
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: everything's the highest. So before I even drink coffee, I've
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: chewed two cardio plus and pray to God that I'm
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: doing a good thing. But they didn't do that. Their
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: habit was chewing cardioplus with the coffee when they were
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: sitting out there and sometimes smoking a cigarette in that patio.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: So I thought, again, I'm beating myself up. Maybe I
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: should have insisted before that. And so now where I'm at,
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: and the reason we're talking about this tonight is I
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  Speaker 2: pray everybody gets up in the morning and choose two
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: cardioplus at a minimum before they do anything else, right
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  Speaker 2: after you brush your teeth and before you have coffee,
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  Speaker 2: before you have breakfast anything, get up and chew a
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: couple cardioplus. It vasodilates so the blood flow is improved.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: It relaxes the vessels and the pressure. And just maybe
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  Speaker 2: if you do that every day, this doesn't sneak up
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  Speaker 2: on you. That radiologists told me that the neuro radiologists
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  Speaker 2: see this every day all day long. It is horribly
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  Speaker 2: common and you could have died from it if you
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: get if it happens to you. And the only reason
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: I think that this patient didn't is because we were
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: doing some good things. But just like where I failed
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  Speaker 2: with you, Susie about not getting you to kick up
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: your immune stuff as the cold and stuff got here,
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: I failed to think about them chewing the cardioplus and
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: doing things more, especially being a smoker. And you know
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: that wears on me a little bit too. So anyway,
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: where we're at right now is I got to try
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: to find a neurologist because my radiologist friend recommends it,
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: and let them see the films and read the report
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: and see if there's anything. But I can't find anything
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: that they know to do, and they certainly don't have
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: a clue what I'm doing. And the only thing I
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: can see that they might have done is if you
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: have the symptoms pop up and you can get to
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: an emergency room. Of course, right now there's so many
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: illegal immigrants and crap here that you can't get seen
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: right way, So it probably wouldn't have mattered, and the
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: patient didn't want to go. So, like you were talking, Bill,
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: when we were talking a while back, it's very important
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: to honor their wishes. If if somebody tells you I
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: don't want to go to an emergency room, you have
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: to honor that. You can't be a jerk and be
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: the boss and.
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, we'll good luck with that.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: What's that?
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: Good luck with that? You know? I don't know if
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: the law has changed, but even with what we used
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: to call, well they call them advanced directives, the physicians
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: don't have to honor that.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.
• 26:43
  Speaker 5: Many people don't have to honor. They don't have to.
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: They didn't have to do Maybe they have to, No,
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: I don't, I doubt if the physician decides. And besides,
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: if if you don't have one with you, they don't
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: really know if you've got it or not.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: That's true.
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: Well, in this case, if you don't marry it around.
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: They don't know, they don't know, and they're not gonna
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: get shoot, so they're gonna do what they gotta do.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And in this case I had no clue. I
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: honored their wishes, but it didn't matter because according to
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: everything I've seen, if you don't respond really pretty quick,
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: and this this patient couldn't have gone anywhere. They were
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: throwing up. They were. It was just a bad, bad
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: thing for several hours. So anyway, that's where we're at.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: I'm begging everybody that's listening, please maybe get yourself some
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: Straus natural heart drops. It's a liquid and it gets
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: into system quick, and it's good for the arteries, veins
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: and capillaries and the heart. And it's got garlic, and
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: it's got kyenne, and it's got hawthorn. It's got a
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: lot of wonderful things. And get yourself some cardioplus and
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: chew a couple first thing in your morning, before you
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: have coffee or breakfast, and choose some later on in
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: the day, maybe two, three times a day, because this
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: is way too common I find out now. It's amazing.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: In all these years of practice, I've never run into it.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: Just when I was an intern. My first year is
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: an intern and now it happens. So that's like a
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: twenty six year mark where I didn't see it and
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: then they tell me now it's very common. So Sissy,
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: anything before we go to break. I know I.
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: Rambled well as you should. People need to be aware.
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: When we get back from the break, I want to
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: hit on this beating yourself up stuff. But right now,
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: a little hint is I like to get the big
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: bottle of cardio plus, and I like to get the
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: small ones too. You know, I don't I don't trust
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: the cops. I don't like to have some kind of
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: pill in my purse. You know that's not identified. I
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: mean you could just say the heck with them, and
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: you know, put it, put it in a small, small,
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: little bottle. But I just keep this. One time I
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: ordered by accident, the small bottle of cardio plus. When
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: it came, of course, I was like, what was I thinking?
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: But that little bottle's come in handy. So when I
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: get a new big bottle and I think it's affordable
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: stuff number one, I just go ahead, and you know,
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: if I need to fill up my purse bottle, I
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: fill it up. And so I've got Huntly carrying it
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: in his truck. But you know, you people just might
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: you know, I know people like to not have have clutter.
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: I'm guessing on their bath encounters. I don't you know
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: a place for everything kind of person, but maybe set
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: a bottle right there on on the on the counter.
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: You know where you brush your teeth, you know, right
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: in front of you, you know, handy brush your teeth
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: cardio plus, I mean I would go so far as
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: to myself keep my bottle on my night stand, reach
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: over there and pick it up and chew it before
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: my feet ever even hit the floor. But that's a
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: couple of hints. But I do want to talk and
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: get back from break about this beating yourself up crap?
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: All right, Bill, anything will we go to break?
• 30:46
  Speaker 5: Oh, I'm gonna I'm gonna follow Susan. I've talked about
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: your beating yourself up. You're gonna get your plow. You're
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: gonna get your plowerfully to night boy.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you what, in all my years as
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: a doctor, this has been the most humbling, stressful, difficult time.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: So yeah, and I can't see it as well as
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: you guys, for sure. So anyway, we will be right back.
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  Speaker 4: Whatever happened to all the good times we used to have,
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  Speaker 2: All right? We are back and I hate to break
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  Speaker 2: it to him, but I don't think she cares. All right,
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: So Susy and Bill are not happy with me for
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: beating myself up. But I'll tell you what, guys, it's
• 34:42
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• 35:13
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• 35:16
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• 35:19
  Speaker 4: Don't you did so, you know, you said after this
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: happened to your patient that you just you know, started, uh,
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: you know, doing everything that you need to do, and
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: you even admitted that the patient didn't get any worse,
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: and so you did something right. But of course there's
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: no way, you know, to know without what you did.
• 35:47
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• 35:50
  Speaker 4: You know, I don't want to go down a rabbit
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: trail with you know, the medical profession right now, but
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm gonna try to keep it brief. You know.
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: I think that the COVID crap did more damage to everything,
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: to customer service, to our supply chain, to it to
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: medical okay, because the good people, be it nurses or
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: doctor's surgeons, they when they knew not to take that
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: experimental stuff. It's my belief the good ones walked away,
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: just like the good military walked away. Who will be reinstated,
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: was all back pay. So, okay, I was sick. I
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: mean I was so sick at one point, and I
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: hate to admit this that I looked at Huntley and
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: I said, I don't know if I'm going to make
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: it through this, and he said, you can fight or
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: you can give up. So that's how sick. I was
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: so so to you beating yourself up. There was a
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: point when it was in his lungs, it was in
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: my lungs. I knew. I knew that I had. We
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: both had symptoms of pneumonia. I didn't doubt it. And
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: it was what you did, you know it was. It
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: was the protocol that that you suggested for us. It
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: was switch it up sort of stuff. And I mean,
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: I'm the number one fan of complex and we went
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: through what was left of a bottle, which is very little,
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: and a full bottle the big one. And so it
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: was when you said to take the varnon and you
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: said it was antibacterial and anti viral, things began to
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: turn around. Uh. Taking the bronc effect was so absolutely vital.
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: I was coughing so much that I was vomittee. I
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: could not. It was very very hard for me to
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: bend down and pick up a pet bowl. I mean,
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: you know, our little little shitty kitties and puppies. They
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: I mean, they know we're sick. I can tell them
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: by the way mine were acting. I mean they were
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: hovering like a you know, you know ownnnny hen you know,
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: I was like, I was just going to want to
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: go in my room and close the door and make
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: sure that there was no kiddies in here, because they
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: were just like around me, looking at me. They would
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: come nose to nose to me, and they got sick.
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: It started with Willie, the crazy long hair cat, and
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: he was sneezing and ruddy nose and running eyes. So
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: in all we had we had four kiddies get sick.
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: So I'm treating them the same time I'm treating us,
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: and it's you know, I expected some really great things
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: for twenty twenty five. This wasn't it. So to my
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: point about beating yourself up, I know full well, without
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: a doubt that we would have both ended up in
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: the hospital, and I know what they would have done
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: to us. They would have insisted on oxygen, they would
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: have insisted on probably even a ventilator or a respirator
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: or whatever you call that craft that kills people. Because
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: of what he did, we didn't have to go to
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: the hospital. So I know that what your patient's going
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: through is far more serious than this, but they're in
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: the hands of a very capable doctor.
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: Well, thank you very much. But uh, I think what
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: you and Hunley and especially you went through was as
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: serious as it gets. And I knew you had pneumonia.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: I knew from all the stuff you told me. But
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: I also believed that with the new stuff and shifting
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: gears that you'd get better. And I just didn't bother
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: to say, hey, you've got pneumonia, because you know that
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: doesn't make it. You need to be more positive when
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: people are sick. So but I appreciate you.
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: I wanted to mention before Bell choose you out. If
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: you go to doc crouper dot com resources and you
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: can scroll down and there is a link to I
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: think it's just power Mall and it'll take you directly
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: to the heart drops. But I'm digging around. I'm in
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: panic mode because we went through three quarters of a
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: bottle of Resco and I thought, okay, you know, if
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: I hadn't been saying I looked at that bottle, I
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: would have said, we're fine for a couple of years,
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: you know, in the event you should get some kind
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: of you know, lower rest, void pneumonia whatever. Uh uh No.
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: I even took about six Rescoe tablets. I just happened
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: to have and use those them. Like Doc says, that's
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: that doesn't work as fast as the liquid. But I'm
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: digging around in my stash, you know, see if there's
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: you know, anymore rescue or whatever. There wasn't. I kidd
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: you not. There is probably a quarter of a teaspoon
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: of that stuff left in the bottle. You know, I'll
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: be ordering it. Y'all need to have it on your shelf.
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: But I did find I forgot that I had this
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: same company that makes the heart drops Strass makes the
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: easy breathed drops. And this this is a I hate
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: to say, you know, there's there's perks from having Doc
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: as a friend. This is private stock, not for sale,
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: and this is a physician's bottle. But the ingredients, I mean,
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: it's obvious this is for respiratory bronchitas asthma player's congestion.
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: You know, the countree the in the Greek seed. Uh
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: urbisante wild cherry bark, Mullin Mullen is so important. I'm
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: not gonna read them all, but slippery, very helpful, horsehound
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: in lungward sage, lobelia, time cult sput I don't even
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: know what that is in chickweed. But through the powerm
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: stress you can probably order this this too.
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you may have to call them. There's a
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: discount I think if they go through our link or
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: when they get there, if they talk to them. And
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: one of the things I didn't tell you is far pneumonia.
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: We do bronch effect, we do andographis and contoplex because
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: they work better together, and we do imflemex. But one
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: of the main reasons that I said aliplex is alerplex
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: has new metrophin and that rebuilds the lungs and gets
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: you through the pneumonia also, so that's why I kept
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: trying to get you to take more alerplex because new
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: metrophins in there. So, yeah, you did good, and you've
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: become one hell of an assistant doctor. On the other
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: end of two nineties. I'm very proud of you, and
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: you would have got better quicker had you not had
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: to take care of everybody else. If you could have
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: just had somebody take care of you that wasn't sick,
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: it wouldn't have lingered as long. But you had kiddies,
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: you had a son to worry about, a husband to
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: worry about, and you got the sickest of all because
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: you had the biggest load in the most stressed. But
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: I'm glad.
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: And just because I can. When only started feeling better
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: because he started his sickness about four days before me.
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: So he started feeling better, no more fever, and so
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: he ended up going to the store, and so he said,
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: anything you need, and I said, I some cough dropped
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: some good ones, and he went financial grocers, and I said,
• 44:55
  Speaker 4: you know, talk to one of the girls up there.
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: They'll show you, you know which one one that I need,
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: and I'll tell you what I thought. I was just
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: gonna absolutely pop up along. I was so ticked off
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: when I read this. Organic eucalyptus oil, okay, organic glucose
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: syrup whatever, organic ivy extract, tectic, organic peppermint oil, okay, good,
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: organic raw cane sugar and drum roll please, organic rape
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: seed oil.
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, Well you know why that was in there?
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: Rape seed oil before they genetically modified it and created canola,
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: was very toxic and it was used in pesticides and
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: other things like that because animals, parasites, bugs, all that
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: stuff didn't like it. So somebody probably put it in
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: there because they knew the virus wouldn't like it.
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: Well, you know, it's kind of like you with the
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: OUI guey cake or me with the catfish fry on
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: on Fridays. I don't do that every Friday. We may
• 46:11
  Speaker 4: do it twice a year. I was so desperate and
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: I thought, Okay, what is one of these gonna do
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: to me? And I said, I'm already you know, waving
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: over yonder, you know, at the other side. What's one
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: cough drop going to do? And I kid you not,
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: just like you said, I put that in my mouth
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: and I started sucking it and it tasted like insecticides.
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why I worked. That's why they put it
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: in there. It was one of the uh and when
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: they first start making canola oil, they had to figure
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: out how to get rid of that chemical that gave
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: it that taste. And they haven't done a very good job.
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: All right, all right, Bill, do I need to hit
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: the mute button on you too, No.
• 47:00
  Speaker 5: Sense, I think that we all have expectations of our
• 47:05
  Speaker 5: own capabilities that occasionally tend to be a little unrealistic.
• 47:10
  Speaker 5: And as you know, somebody once told me, he said,
• 47:17
  Speaker 5: you know, I'm glad you're perfect, because I'm not. But
• 47:20
  Speaker 5: I think that that we we we expect so much
• 47:25
  Speaker 5: of ourselves in one of the things that I ejected
• 47:28
  Speaker 5: to even when I was in school, and I know
• 47:31
  Speaker 5: this is this kind of got into something you said,
• 47:33
  Speaker 5: But they don't. They don't address the issues of what
• 47:42
  Speaker 5: we look at as failures. And I wish you wouldn't
• 47:46
  Speaker 5: use that word, because that puts you in a in
• 47:49
  Speaker 5: a place of uh of self fulfilling prophecy. You don't fail.
• 47:57
  Speaker 5: We do the best we can with what we've got,
• 48:00
  Speaker 5: and sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. One of
• 48:03
  Speaker 5: the things that you know, they never told us in school,
• 48:08
  Speaker 5: how are you going to feel when you lose a patient.
• 48:13
  Speaker 5: I have a friend who's a dentist and his son
• 48:17
  Speaker 5: went to medical school. There's a surgeon was working in
• 48:25
  Speaker 5: a clinic right out of school, and almost the first
• 48:31
  Speaker 5: patient that he worked on died, and it upset him
• 48:35
  Speaker 5: so much that he essentially quit being a surgeon and
• 48:42
  Speaker 5: went in dermatology. Okay, one of the things that we
• 48:47
  Speaker 5: have to understand in the healthcare profession is that we
• 48:50
  Speaker 5: are probably going to lose a patient. How are we
• 48:55
  Speaker 5: going to deal with that? How are we going to
• 48:57
  Speaker 5: understand that we can't stay everybody? We're not God? What
• 49:04
  Speaker 5: was the old story about the difference between a doctor
• 49:07
  Speaker 5: and God? Is that God knows he's not a doctor. Yes,
• 49:11
  Speaker 5: and we pay there's truth there, But we put expectations
• 49:17
  Speaker 5: on ourselves that really keep us from I think, really
• 49:23
  Speaker 5: keep us from being more effective when a patient we're looking,
• 49:31
  Speaker 5: we're looking for we're looking for rainbows. And what we've
• 49:35
  Speaker 5: got to do is get in and get our hands
• 49:37
  Speaker 5: dirty and do what we've been trained to do and
• 49:39
  Speaker 5: do the best we can and understand is sometimes that's
• 49:42
  Speaker 5: not going to be enough because not everything we can control.
• 49:48
  Speaker 5: And this is this is you know, when you're dealing
• 49:52
  Speaker 5: with a line of products like you are, a standard
• 49:55
  Speaker 5: process that has such a beneficial effect, there are going
• 50:00
  Speaker 5: to be times when yeah, yeah, I cried everything, what
• 50:04
  Speaker 5: about I don't know what I'm going to do? Well,
• 50:06
  Speaker 5: then you need to back off and keep working and
• 50:11
  Speaker 5: not worry about I'm not doing it.
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: Are you still there? It sounds like you got far
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: away from your mic.
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's breaking up a little bit.
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're You're right. Uh. And and I didn't mention,
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: I said, I didn't mention. I did everything from the
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: physical aspect and the nerve and the disk and the
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: adjusting and all that, the interferential current. I did laser
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: many times and different modes, trying different things. So maybe Susy,
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: you might have hit on something. Maybe I headed it
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: off from getting any worse. And the patient is so
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: damn tough that if I didn't tell you and you
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: came into this house and met them, you probably wouldn't
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: know what was going on. They do a lot of
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: work on the keyboard, and the left hand is not
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: co operating. Uh, there's a little stutter step on the
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: left foot, but they've gotten so good at it and adjusted.
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: And I pray because me and God, I don't know
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: if he's listening or not, but we've been talking a lot,
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: and I just I did. I certainly didn't want it
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: to get any worse, and so I did everything in
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: a hurry that I could think of. And now I'm
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: gonna hit it from a different angle now that I'm
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: pretty sure I know what I'm dealing with. So but yeah,
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: it's tough bailing. You're right, you lose some and and
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: we I guess I put a lot of pressure on myself,
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: especially because this is family. But I you know, I'm
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: like that with anybody. I mean, I worried about Susie
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: every day. I just don't call her a lot because
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: it was it was hard for her to talk, and
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: I know what that feels like when you're coughing and
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: trying to talk. The thing I didn't understand through all
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: this was the damn medical society seems to only care
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: about money and nobody really cares. I mean, if you'd
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: have called me, and now that I know this, if
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: somebody would have told me these kind of symptoms, I
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: would have not made somebody wait before we started doing something,
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: and I would have put I'd have put the emergency
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: room on the option table for them and let them
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: make their own decision. Of course, around here, you go
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: to the emergency room, you might have to spend the
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: night waiting for somebody to see you. But I still
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: would have made that an option, and I did in
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: this case too, and even now, they don't want to
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: go to the neurologist, and they're probably right. There's probably
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: nothing they can do other than and I don't see
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: how a neurosurgeon could do a damn thing if you
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: got such a small place that didn't get blood. I'm
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: praying that what I'm doing now clears this up. But
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: you know, it's it's it's been a rough road, and
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: I really appreciate you too, and your comments and your
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: friendship because it means a lot. Did you, uh, something
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: else built? Because I think I cut you off before?
• 53:59
  Speaker 5: Yeah, al as, I I was thinking because you've talked
• 54:03
  Speaker 5: about this over the past several weeks. But when I
• 54:07
  Speaker 5: was uh, when I was still in school. I don't
• 54:11
  Speaker 5: think it was a state law. I think it was
• 54:15
  Speaker 5: probably a part of the code of ethics of the
• 54:19
  Speaker 5: medical permission profession that they did not treat family in
• 54:26
  Speaker 5: any relation. They did not treat family.
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: You're still there, Bill, Yeah, I'm here.
• 54:36
  Speaker 5: Are you there?
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Well, it went down for a second, so I
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: didn't know if we lost you.
• 54:41
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, no, it's let me cats, not that.
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: Kitty cat. The kitty cat wants daddy.
• 54:58
  Speaker 4: There's something this life eye on his hand.
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: I think he moved away from the mic because of
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: the cat. That's what we heard.
• 55:15
  Speaker 5: Anyway, it's right there. How about that we're doing now there?
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: No, Yeah, that's yeah, that sounds good again Bill.
• 55:23
  Speaker 5: Okay, the physicians were not allowed to treat members of
• 55:27
  Speaker 5: their own family, but I think it started because a
• 55:31
  Speaker 5: couple of positions of them members of the family would
• 55:35
  Speaker 5: be in the pain. But I think the long term
• 55:39
  Speaker 5: effective is that the emotional wear and tear of working
• 55:44
  Speaker 5: on members of your own family really began to show up.
• 55:50
  Speaker 5: And and and how these folks were treated. And I
• 55:54
  Speaker 5: you know, I've kind of seen that with you, is
• 55:56
  Speaker 5: that you're you're very concerned, you're very worried about all
• 56:01
  Speaker 5: of this. And it's yeah, you would feel that way
• 56:04
  Speaker 5: about anybody, but you're gonna feel that way more because
• 56:06
  Speaker 5: your family. And I think that it's a it's a
• 56:10
  Speaker 5: thing that needs to be aware of it. It's not
• 56:11
  Speaker 5: going to make any different to how you treat them.
• 56:14
  Speaker 5: But if it's wear and tear on you, because it's
• 56:18
  Speaker 5: another level of pressure, and so be careful with that,
• 56:23
  Speaker 5: all right, Just be careful with that.
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: I appreciate you, all right. We got a we got
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: a light in the mood because it's been rough around
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: this hotel. I was looking at some jokes and I
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: and then I thought of this too. Yeah, you guys
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: remember the saying that camera never lies. Well, yes, well
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: now with AI that that doesn't matter anymore. We don't
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: know if it's real or not. You you can get
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: a phone call and they've already done this to people.
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: That a phone call from a daughter to the mother
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: saying I've been kidnapped. Send money, and it was all AI.
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: It was not the daughter. The mother's losing it. Uh,
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: they're doing things with AI. I saw this the other night.
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: It said AI now at graduate level. What the hell
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: does that mean? I mean, this AI stuff. I don't
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: understand how artificial intelligence can be any smarter than the
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: people that programmed it. But the way they're talking, it's
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: becoming an entity of its own. I don't get that.
• 57:36
  Speaker 5: So dangerous, very very dangerous.
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not a fan.
• 57:42
  Speaker 4: And I saw the inter press conference with Trump and
• 57:48
  Speaker 4: two three of these these AI geeks, and come to
• 57:54
  Speaker 4: find out there they're setting up a facility, an AI
• 58:00
  Speaker 4: data facility in Amarillo. And and this one guy, I
• 58:06
  Speaker 4: don't know what country he represents, but he's they're investing
• 58:13
  Speaker 4: five five hundred million, maybe it's five hundred billion, and
• 58:18
  Speaker 4: so this you know, this tall, gooky guy, I should
• 58:22
  Speaker 4: be nicer. I don't a line, but they're they're talking about, uh,
• 58:30
  Speaker 4: you know, AI as if you know, it's the best
• 58:33
  Speaker 4: thing to slice bread.
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: In.
• 58:35
  Speaker 4: One of the examples that they were trying to give was,
• 58:40
  Speaker 4: you know, some doctor in remote Africa. You know, maybe
• 58:46
  Speaker 4: those liberal doctors with that border's people can utilize AI
• 58:55
  Speaker 4: to help treat this patient in this remote area. And so,
• 59:03
  Speaker 4: you know, I don't I really don't want to mention this,
• 59:05
  Speaker 4: but I was listening to Greg Guttfeldt and someone was complaining,
• 59:11
  Speaker 4: a leftist was complaining, you know, about the executive orders,
• 59:16
  Speaker 4: and he literally said, well, is there any of them
• 59:19
  Speaker 4: you like? And so he gave the example to this leftist.
• 59:25
  Speaker 4: You know, there's this restaurant I like, and they, you know,
• 59:29
  Speaker 4: they sell seafood. He goes, I don't eat seafood, but
• 59:33
  Speaker 4: I love their steaks. So I guess I'm trying to
• 59:37
  Speaker 4: apply the same thing to Trump. I don't like his AI,
• 59:44
  Speaker 4: but you know, I'd like the majority of the rest
• 59:47
  Speaker 4: of the executive orders. So Trump kids up there, and
• 59:52
  Speaker 4: he says that they're so excited. Now this one tall
• 59:55
  Speaker 4: guy says, we have been able to I so late,
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 4: the tiniest little cancer cell floating around in someone's blood system.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 4: And he said, and with AI. Now this makes me
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 4: want to throw rocks. Doc Andel, but he said something
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 4: about the exciting thing about this AI is a m
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 4: r in A based cancer vaccine.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: How horrible.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 4: And I just hollered at TV. Well here's and I'm
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 4: looking rump and I'm like, there is a reason they
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 4: don't let me get in press conferences like this.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: Well, here's here's something else. They already proved that the
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: m r in A was bad and they hurt a
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: lot of people and false. He ought to be a
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: prison But what they ought to be saying is, if
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: this AI is so good, let's use it with a
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: guy like Robert F. Kennedy Junior and figure out why
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: everybody's getting cancer from all these foods in this country
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: but not in the other countries. Oh wait a minute,
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: we already know that they use ingredients here that you
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: can't use anywhere else.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 4: Oh well, I read something today that was just absolutely
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 4: made me want to pretend like I was a cheerleader.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I mean, at least here in our area,
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 4: maybe San Antonio. I feel a cough coming up. There's
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 4: a chain called steak in Shake Shake. Do y'all have
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 4: those in Houston?
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's it originated I think in Saint Louis,
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: but they don't have many of them here anymore. It
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: used to be a great, great place.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 4: They are switching to one hundred percent pure beef tallow
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 4: for frying their their price.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: I love it. I love it. That's great. All right, Well,
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: we're just about at at break bill. Anything on all
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: that that we just rambled.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 5: No, it's it's the thing with you know, the AI business.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 5: It's it's the thing that kind of it shimilar to
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 5: me was the development of nuclear power is that it
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 5: has potential for great good and potential for unbelievable bad. Yeah,
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 5: and how do we control that?
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 5: And Trump?
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: I think Trump thinks that with him there, that he's
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: going to be able to control the good. But I
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: worry about all the evil people out there.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 5: So I don't know.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 4: All right, Because artificial intelligence, it's art intelligence, that's what
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 4: I thought all of Congress had.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: I'm so glad you're back, all right. A couple of
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: quick little funnies, and then we're going to go to
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: break and come back and let Bill do his thing.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: A guy was working in the garage and he knew
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: he was going to get a phone call, but he
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: didn't want to keep the phone out there because he
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: was working, and he wanted his wife to bring the
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: phone to him when it rang, So he got kind
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: of smart and the wife comes running out into the
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: garage with the phone and she said, who's Rachel? And
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: he said, that's Jack. She said, no, it says Rachel.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: Who's Rachel? He said, it's Jack. He said, you don't
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: believe me, go ahead and answer it. So she answers
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: it and she goes, it's Jack. He said, I told you.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: She said, well, then why do you have Rachel's name
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: if it's Jack? He said, because I knew you'd bring
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: me the phone. Okay. And another one they were asking
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: some amish people how come you guys didn't get affected
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: by that coronavirus like everybody else, and he said, we
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: don't have TV. No TV, no problem. And then one
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: last little thing, or two little things, the guy said,
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: you know there are three rings and marriage and his
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: wife's looking at him, like, what are you talking about?
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: He said, yeah, an engagement ring, a wedding ring, and suffering.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: Ah yeah, she gave him that look. I'm sure she
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: hit him after it was over. And then one last
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: little thing. We had to have a few bright spots
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: for all the bad that's been going on. Guy said,
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: a marriage. He said, if your wife's in the house
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: and she's all stressed out and really doing bad, you
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: should go buy yourself a gift. His wife looks at him,
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: and he said, yeah, if she's in that kind of
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: a mood while she's cooking and cleaning and cutting the
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: grass and taking care of all that stuff, you've been
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: really struggling with her stress. So you need to go
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: buy yourself a gift. You've earned it. All right, Let's
• 1:05:28
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  Speaker 2: We have a new president and a whole bunch of
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: new good things happening. They even said that down at
• 1:08:48
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• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: don't want to wait around for the new administration to
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• 1:09:00
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  Speaker 5: Uh well, yeah, that's that's that's kind of it doesn't
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  Speaker 5: a critical incident and a critical incident and I know
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  Speaker 5: who who was shouldvolve with that, how do we adjust
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  Speaker 5: to that? And really, there there are as I was
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 5: telling them speaking to them about this, There really four
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 5: areas that are pretty immediate concern. The first one is
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  Speaker 5: is physical where we injured, where we hurt or we
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  Speaker 5: where some way destroyed devastated, where we where we put
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  Speaker 5: it in a bad, bad place Physically that a lot
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  Speaker 5: of times injuries from those kinds of situations may not
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  Speaker 5: occur for several days or several weeks. We were slammed
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  Speaker 5: around that that that injury may not may not show
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 5: up for a while. The psychological emotional, of course, we're
• 1:12:05
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  Speaker 5: Somebody puts a gun on the face or a knife,
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  Speaker 5: and it's a little strange, and it obsess us, and
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  Speaker 5: it obsessed our sense of balance and our sense of
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 5: the Really a sense of civilization spiritually is a problem.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 5: I know I've talked about this before, but when I
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 5: lived on the West Coast, I had to it had
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 5: the opportunity to spend some some time with a rabbi
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 5: and I said, I've got a question for you, and
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  Speaker 5: he kind of smiled. I think he knew where I
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  Speaker 5: was head. It has probably been asked a thousand times
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 5: orforeth I said, and independacle. And in the Book of Exodus,
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 5: I believe in chapter twenty and I think in verse
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 5: six where it tells us that we shall not kill.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 5: And I said, the Bible's full of killing. How does
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 5: that work? And he said, well, I have said yeah,
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  Speaker 5: And he got his hands going. He said, well, you know,
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 5: you know, it's really a translational problem because the Hebrew
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 5: word at that point is now, shalt not murder. It
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 5: isn't thou shalt not chillse ill shalt not murder? All right,
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 5: what's the difference. Well, murder is taking the life of
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 5: an innocent someone who can't defend themselves, a child, an
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 5: old person, a sick person, a person who isn't well.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 5: All right, that's different. Killing is a matter of self defense,
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 5: whether it's militarily or we're attacked physically. I'm we defend ourselves.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 5: There is a difference which I think really is much
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 5: more profound than most of us ever realized that we
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 5: need to be aware of that. Okay, this was all
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 5: focused around defending yourself. What happens, what happens to you emotionally?
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 5: After that and I realized that really this is the
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 5: same response as any kind of nomadic event, whether it's
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 5: a death and a family or we've seen something that
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 5: was really us, we've seen something very upsetting, a bad accident,
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 5: somebody we know has been hurt or injured or killed,
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 5: something that really distorts our sense of normalcy, our usual
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 5: behavioral patterns or usual lifestyle. With self defense, and in
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 5: that situation, that's it's much more intense, and it's much
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 5: more immediate, but the resulting symptomology is really the same.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 5: It's just it's just very It's a matter of intensity.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 5: How strongly are we responding to these kinds of events
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 5: and the usual group, you know, we get depressed, We
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 5: have anxiety, a lot of times where we have fear problems.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 5: We have flashbacks and things that trigger months or years
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 5: later that trigger and the trigger almost an immediate return
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 5: to the initial event, whatever that was, as I say,
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 5: the death of the family or an access something something
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 5: that was traumatic. H We have startled responses. I've worked
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 5: for the person who had been worked in a retail
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 5: store and they were held up. You know, four guys
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 5: came in, started as it was a jewelrystore for it,
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 5: started smashing counters, scooping out merchandise, putting it in the bag,
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 5: and nobody was injured. Nobody was hurt. There were the
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 5: guns were around. The bad guys brought their own weapons.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 5: But for months, if my patient heard a startling sound
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 5: like a firecracker, or somebody clapped their hands, or somebody
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 5: slammed the door right back there, right back there, these
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 5: kinds of as I say, startled responses are stayed with us.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 5: For sometimes for years. And I think I've talked about
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 5: this guy, but i've when I've worked in Minnesota, there's
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 5: a a guy who worked in the shop. He was
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 5: he was we call them mechanics now they're technicians, but
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 5: he was a mechanic. He'd driven an APC in Vietnam,
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 5: armor personnel carrier and uh, you know that all these
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 5: guys don't often talk about stuff, but he talked to
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 5: me about these kinds of things, and and he said,
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 5: he can never he can never get out of his
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 5: mind the screams of running over children who had grenades
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 5: in their hands trying to blow up his APC. About
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 5: twice a year he would wind up on top of
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 5: a workbench with a rich in his hands, screaming and
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 5: yelling that nobody could get near him. I mean, he was,
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 5: he was back there and he was reliving all of
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 5: that experience. And I think the last time that I
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 5: recalled that, he had one of those events, up on
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 5: a workbench, screaming and yelling, and he started to cry.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 5: And the guys in the shop, these big, rough, tough
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 5: guys that were not sophisticated, they were not Yeah, they
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 5: weren't intellectuals. They weren't. They were just guys, they were
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 5: just mechanics. They went up to him and held him.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 5: They just put their arms around him and held him.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 5: That's how long he'd been dealing with that. Call this
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 5: a twenty five years later. When bad things happened to us.
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 5: Stuff fit scary, stuff that obsesses, stuff that distorts us.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 5: We never quite ever get over that. We never quite
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 5: heal from that. We're never the same, We're changed, We're different.
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 5: And I think that we have to understand that we
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 5: are different, and we have to give ourselves a little
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 5: We have to cut ourselves a little slack. We have
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 5: to be a little more patient and understand that when
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 5: we have these moments, these regressive moments, that it's part
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 5: of the heating process. And every time they come back,
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 5: they're not quite as intense, they're not quite so horrible.
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 5: They're getting better, but it takes time. And the kind
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 5: of what you're dealing with, Doc Two is you're kind
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 5: of up against the wall. What hey, what do I do? What?
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 5: How do I regain that sense of balance? And just
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 5: just do your job? We just do our job. We
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 5: be who we are. We understand that that life brings
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 5: us all kinds of experiences. Some of them are good
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 5: and some of them aren't. And it's a balance that
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 5: we have to understand that where I am today is
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 5: not forever. Whether it's good or bad, it's not forever.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 5: And we have to, I think, give ourselves a chance
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 5: to back off a little bit and look at how
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 5: am I responding to this? Am I is my anger
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 5: just driving this? And am I angry at having had
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 5: to defend myself from some bad guy? Some stupid bad guy.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 5: Am I angry that I had to lure myself to
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 5: that level in order to survive? Yeah? Very angry about that, Okay,
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 5: But that's part of it. And I think when we
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 5: go through these traumatic events, whether it's a critical incident
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 5: or or whatever, it brings, it brings kind of to
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 5: our thought the complexity of who we are and how
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 5: we're supposed to look at our past experience as a
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 5: way of coping with a present experience, because there's always
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 5: a message there, you know, whether it's controlling anger or
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 5: it makes us depressed. Why am I depressed because of
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 5: what this guy did to me? Am I depressed because
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 5: I didn't respond appropriately or quick enough or violently enough.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 5: Did I not mean violence with violence, because that's really
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 5: all violent people understand. It is violence. You don't want
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 5: to have a meaningful conversation with some guy putting a
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 5: gun in your face. Did I How did I do?
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 5: And it gives us an opportunity to really look at
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 5: the depth of ourself and the complexity of ourself, and
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 5: to be able to, no matter how awful the experience,
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 5: to take away some goodness that made me a better
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 5: person because of Howard responded to this. Some guy breaks
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 5: into my house and I defend my family. Yeah, I'm
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 5: a victim. When the cops get there and there's a
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 5: guy on the floor and I'm standing there with a
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 5: gun in my hand. Yeah, I'm the bad guy and
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 5: I'm going to jail. What do I do? How do
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 5: I deal with that? How is that going to make
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 5: How is that going to make me a better person? Well,
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 5: because you did what you were supposed to do. You
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 5: protected your family, and you protected yourself and your values.
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 5: For what grows that action and that response. We don't
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 5: believe in anything, We don't have a sense of values.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 5: What do we got. We don't stand up for what
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 5: we believe in what we got. We can't all be Democrats. Well,
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 5: that's kind of where I was with all of that.
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 5: It's just was was the stress that that we're experiencing
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 5: every day is really it's pretty part of this whole process.
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 5: And you know, we're stressed out, we feel the question,
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 5: we feel anxious, we feel exjittery, we're irritable. It's all
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 5: the same. It's just how how long does it last?
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 5: And how intense is it? We're just our basic criteria
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 5: for any diagnostic function is how intense are the symptoms?
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 5: How long have they had them?
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't.
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 5: Everybody gets everybody gets there. It doesn't mean we're all
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 5: severely depressed. It's just everybody gets depressed, everybody gets anxious,
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 5: everybody gets afraid. Those are normal. How much do they
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 5: disrupt our normal behavioral patterns? How much do they disrupt
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 5: on life? How long does that last? There you go.
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 2: I bet they enjoyed your talk.
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 5: I didn't get any applause, But that's a whole other topic.
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 2: Well, you have usually applause for that. Well, you know,
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 2: if you want to know about stress, we need to
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 2: talk to Susie because she never thinks she's stressed out,
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 2: but she carries it around terribly I bet you, I
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 2: bet you Hunley knew that she was stressed. I bet
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 2: the kiddi CAATs knew she was stressed. Sure, sure, pretty
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 2: interesting though. You're right. That's why there's a lot of
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 2: organizations now that you can pay monthly. And should something
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 2: happen where you had to use a gun or defend yourself,
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 2: you have somebody there that's going to help you legally
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 2: and maybe with consoling if you need it, because they
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 2: they know all this stuff exists. It's like you said,
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 2: so probably everybody that has a gun needs to have
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 2: What's that.
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 4: Tell the cat not to scratch?
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 2: Oh?
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 4: Now the whole world knows.
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 2: The whole world knows about the city kidties at Susney's house,
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 2: the cat mom. We've seen three of them out here
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 2: running around in this cold, and I felt bad for them,
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 2: but they didn't seem to be bothered with it. It
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 2: got down to it was set eighteen on my thermometer
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 2: when I got up smarting. Right now it's forty three.
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 2: But I was worried about the little shitty kiddies out there.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 2: All right, it's is he anything on? What all? He
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 2: was talking about? No good stuff though, yeah, real good
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 2: stuff and if he gave a talk to a group
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 2: of people, and I think I know who he was
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 2: talking about. I'm sure that went over well. And good stuff.
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 2: Bill always good stuff. And I think it's really tough
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 2: when it's us going through stuff. You just feel the
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 2: pressure and you just try to survive and keep going.
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 2: But everybody around you is gonna know when it's piling up.
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 2: They'll see a difference and they can sense your pain.
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 2: I guess so things are rough, but I am praying
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 2: that nobody else gets sick, as he doesn't have any
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 2: more cold and flu stuff. She's probably built up in
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 2: ammune system now that could take on a tank after
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 2: what she's been through. And we know now too to
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 2: tell everybody to boost up this time of the year,
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 2: because what you take every day was good for every
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 2: day until you run into a new threat. And it
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 2: could be virus, it could be bacterial, it could be both.
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 2: It could be fungal, it could be a parasitic. They
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 2: can all gang up on you at once.
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 4: It could be made. It could be sprayed in the sky.
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 2: That's true. I don't know why they say man made.
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 2: I think it should be like woman made. But that's
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 2: just me. Anyway. Oh, there's our cuckoo telling me it's
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 2: time to go to break. Okay, we're pretty close. Yeah,
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 2: we are all right. Well, I guess ladies and gentlemen,
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 2: we'll go to break and when we come back, says
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 2: he's always got a recipe here too, upper sleep. Probably
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 2: this week, she's probably got something on curing the cold
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 2: and the flu when you're struggling. Hopefully it's like chicken soup. Anyway,
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  Speaker 2: All right, we are back. Bill's probably the only one
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  Speaker 2: who knew what that was.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, one of the two d minor Tocados and Fuchs
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  Speaker 5: of Sebastian Bahr. Oh my god, the one that's probably
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 5: the better. Note that I think most people would know that.
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 5: I believe Captain Nemo in twenty Thousand Leagues under the
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 5: Sea that really made that famous.
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  Speaker 2: Sissy, did you have any idea? I think he was
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 2: talking in a foreign language. Just now.
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 4: Well, and so I feel foolish, and I don't have
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 4: to admit this. I could say, oh, yeah, I know
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 4: that song here going oh cool of the opera.
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  Speaker 2: Well that Bill was right on the money. It is
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 2: to kata Fuquay and uh D minors. That what you said, Bill? Yep, yeah, yep, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I cannot believe Bill knew that off the top of
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 2: his head. I cannot imagine how much.
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 5: Only the most the most famous he said, say, anybody
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 5: who's ever was an organist has played that piece, so wow,
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 5: it is a It is an old war horse, as
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 5: they say.
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, well, ladies and gentlemen. We haven't had
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 2: to do this the last couple of weeks because Susy
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 2: skipped out on Bill and I teaching her how to
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 2: cook and give her lessons. But usually by this time
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 2: of the night she doesn't remember the name of the company,
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 2: and I always like to help her, being the nice
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 2: guy that I am, so tonight to help her out
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 2: let her know that the name of the company is
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 2: Rednecks and Draft Beer Construction. Susie, that's funny.
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  Speaker 4: Rednecks is spot on draft beer, not so much. If
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 4: you said SEEKU said Rednecks and dr Pepper.
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  Speaker 2: I'll drink to that, all right, take it away.
• 1:33:27
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• 1:33:33
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• 1:33:37
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• 1:33:41
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  Speaker 4: that will take you to your website and lots of
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  Speaker 2: All right? Hit us with your recipe Okay.
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  Speaker 4: I think you snuck in and you were looking at
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 4: my notes like I do to you, so you were close,
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 4: but no cigar. And this is a Southern chicken and dumplings. Yeah,
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 4: this weather, this is this is perfect and it's funny.
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 4: I saw a lot of people on social media saying
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 4: that that's what they were gonna cook today, and uh
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 4: so this what we do on recipes is sometimes we
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 4: we switch them up. We make the the ingredients healthier.
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 4: This one is not too bad. So for the soup
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 4: port portion, you're gonna have a quarter of a cup
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 4: of unsalted butter, a medium onion diceed, three celery ribs
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 4: diced to clothes the garlic or more minced up, and
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 4: a quarter of a cup of all purpose flours. So
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 4: right there, I've done this with the iron corn flour
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 4: and it works fine. You can use your organic unbleached flour,
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 4: thirty two ounces of chicken broth you want to you know,
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 4: beef this up, so to speak. So for sick folks,
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 4: you can use bone broth. Another theme that it calls
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 4: for sixteen ounces of boneless, endless chicken breast. So the
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 4: bone is where you know, we get you know, the
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 4: good stuff for our bodies when we're sick or when
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 4: we're well. So I would switch this out for bone
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 4: in chicken breast. And you could also, if you wanted,
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 4: you could do the equivalent sixteen ounces, which is a
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 4: pan you could use the chicken thigh. It's just a
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 4: little bit, you know, more flavor. Three quarters of a
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 4: teaspoon of salt, and we always say Celtic sea salt
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 4: is the best half a teaspoon of pepper. I haven't
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 4: said this lately. I get the organic pepper corns in bulk.
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 4: I just put them in a one quart jar. And
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 4: I've got a I think I think it's a queason
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 4: Art coffee grinder, and if you go to Amazon, you
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 4: can buy additional inserts so that you're not grinding up
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 4: pepper or you know, other spices with the container that
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 4: you put your your coffee beans in and so.
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 5: I just.
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 4: Grind it, grind it up. It's the the one the
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 4: insert that goes in it where you grind the beans.
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 4: It's fairly tall. The ones that you can order at
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 4: Amazon if you can't find it in the stores, which
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 4: I never have, uh there, they're short. So if you
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 4: fill that up about you know, three quarters of the
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 4: way and you know a family of you know, three
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 4: or four and you put it, put it into a
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 4: small mason jar like a little jelly jar that that'll
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 4: lasts for a month before you have to grind up anymore.
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 4: And that way you're always starting with, you know, some
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 4: freshly ground pepper and yeah, I know a pepper mail. Well,
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 4: I don't like to mess with a pepper mail. I
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 4: like to reach into the jar and get as much
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 4: as I as I want and not stand there and
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 4: grind on that thing. And then sixteen ounces of whole milk.
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 4: You know, we use raw milk here, but and you're
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 4: gonna be heating it up, but at least you know
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 4: that the ingredients that are in there, by the way
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 4: God intended, is straight from the from the cow. And
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 4: then I will come back to the ingredients for the dumplings.
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 4: But first I want to talk about the soup. So
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 4: in a stock pot over a medium heat, you're gonna
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 4: melt the butter and add your your onion and your celery,
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 4: and you're going to cook it for about four or
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 4: five minutes. Then you're going to put in your garlic,
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 4: because you don't want to burn garlic or overcook it,
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 4: and then that's about thirty seconds. Now I can tell
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 4: my voices trying to hang in there. So then at
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 4: this point you're going to add that quarter of a
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 4: cup of flour and you're gonna cook that for about
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 4: a minute. It's just to get the raw taste out
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 4: of out of the flour. Then you're going to slowly
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 4: whisk in all of that that chicken broth and you know,
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 4: scraping the bottom so it doesn't stick, and then catching
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 4: any of them what they call the yummy brown bits.
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 4: Then you're going to add your chicken, whether you want
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 4: to use a chicken breast or you want to do
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 4: chicken thighs, and if you do a thy, do the
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 4: same thing that you would with the chicken, just pull
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 4: that skin off. Then you're going to add your salt in,
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 4: your pepper, and your poultry seasoning, which I think I
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 4: left off. That's a half a teaspoon, and then you're
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 4: going to simmer that for like twenty minutes or until
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 4: the the chicken breast or cook burrow. You want them
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 4: to hit one hundred and sixty five degrees fahrenheit in
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 4: the center. So while this chicken is cooking. You can
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 4: prepare your dumpling. And again this says two cups of
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 4: all purpose flour, and I've done it with the iron
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 4: corn flour and it works great. You can use the
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 4: organic flour. Half a teaspoon of salt, two teaspoons of
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 4: baking powder. Get a good quality baking powder, make sure
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 4: that it doesn't have aluminum in it, and then one
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 4: cup of milk, and then you're just gonna mix this together. Now,
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 4: one thing I did leave off here is a quarter
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 4: of a cup of unsalted butter cold, so don't leave
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 4: it out to room. Temperatures come of like making discuits.
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 4: You want that butter to be cold. That's where you're
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 4: going to get the pluckiness. And so you're gonna mix
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 4: that all together. And this is a cool little hint.
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 4: I've done this before. Get your box greater and grate
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 4: that cold butter. That makes it really easy to add
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 4: it to the flour and then combine it. Make like
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 4: a little well at the bottom of your flour mixture
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 4: and add your milk and then gently pull that together
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 4: with a spatula or a fork. So you do need
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 4: to once your chicken gets done, go in there and
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 4: take it out and set it on a plate. Let
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 4: it cool down a little bit so you can handle it.
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 4: If you're going straight by the recipe with a bottonless
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 4: chicken breast. Once it cools off a little bit, just
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 4: go ahead and chop it up the way you want it,
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 4: the sizes you want it. And then you're gonna wait,
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 4: because there is such a thing as over cooking chicken.
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 4: It'll get this real rubbery texture and you don't want that,
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 4: so you're going to You can make a drop dumpling,
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 4: which is what I do. It's super simple. It's reminds
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 4: you of comfort food. If you wanted to go to
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 4: the trouble of making a flat dumpling, you could roll
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 4: this out about a quarter of an inch thick, slice
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 4: it in one inch strips, and then cut it into squares,
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 4: and then you gently drop those in into the I
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 4: wouldn't say boiling, but pretty high simmer. What I like
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 4: to do is just use a spoon and scoop the
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 4: dough and then using your finger. That's why God gave
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 4: in to you, you know, push off these these little
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 4: these little balls of dough if you will, and then
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 4: you want to once you get that done, you want
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 4: to cover it with a lid, reduce the heat to low,
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 4: simmer it for about fifteen minutes or until the dumplings
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 4: are cooked through. You can tell, or you can even
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 4: just take a fork and kind of break it in
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 4: half to see that it's done. At this point, you
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 4: can remove the lid, add or shredded or chopped up chicken,
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 4: and gently combine it because you don't want to tear
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 4: up your dumplings, and then just remove it from the
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 4: heat so the spreaker doesn't do a live I'm going
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 4: to take this recipe and put it on our website
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 4: and you'll probably notice there's only one. You know, when
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 4: it hits the van, it hits the fan, so getting sick,
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 4: getting behind. I haven't put any recipes up there in
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 4: my apologies, but this one I will put up there
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 4: and you can go in at your convenience and downloaded
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 4: or printed. I think what I've been doing well, it
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 4: didn't on the first one was a PDF version. That way,
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 4: all he had to do was print it, and that's it.
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 4: That's all I got.
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 2: Sounds good I have in front of me. You say Celtic.
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 2: I'm still saying Celtic. But Solina naturally pepper grinder with
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 2: organic pepper from those people, and it's a ceramic grinder.
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 2: So that's how I do my pepper.
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, we go through so much. I just want
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 4: to grinder that the coffee grinder and have me a
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 4: little jar of it handy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well this is pretty good. It lasts me a
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 2: little while. But I have to buy six at a time.
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 2: When you buy UH as a doctor or a wholesale account,
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 2: they don't let you buy like I can do for
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 2: other people. So, but I think I sent you some
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 2: one time to try. I don't remember, it's been a
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 2: long time.
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 4: No, don't the not the pepper, you know the other
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 4: the other one? Okay, yeah, seasons like you know the Mexicans,
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 4: And I really like the seewee.
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a really good one. Have you tried them? Bill?
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 4: They got a celery one that would be good in
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 4: the in this recipe.
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And and clery is also very good for joint
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 2: health and arthritic stuff, so that's pretty cool. Well, that
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 2: sounded really good. My grandmother made chicken and doublings and
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 2: she gave the reci feed to my sister, the one
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 2: that you know about Sissy and anyway, according to my grandmother,
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 2: it had to be a certain kind of chicken. And
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 2: my sister told me that I have forgotten, but I'm
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 2: sure it's something you would know what kind of chicken
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 2: would be different to make this, because my grandmother was
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 2: very specific.
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 6: She said, so.
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 4: Your grandmother's time, they had access to real chicken, good chicken.
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 4: And so there's a there's a broiler. They call it
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 4: a broiler. It's a whole chicken, just like you cook
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 4: a whole turkey. Probably what she meant was just a hen,
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 4: a whole hen, because if my grandmother made chicken and dumplings,
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 4: she would put that whole hen into a stock pot
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 4: and she would cook it. Then she'd take it out.
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 4: She would of course, then you had this fabulous basically
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 4: bone roth and then you just skim off the phone
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 4: that's created when you boil one of those chickens with
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 4: My guess would be that it was just simply a
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 4: hen chicken, which is going to be small, smaller than
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 4: your big boiler.
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 2: I don't know if I have it written down anywhere,
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 2: but I'll look. I'll tell you what's cool. My grandmother's
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 2: been going a long time, but she used to make
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 2: me rhubarb custard pie every year for my birthday, and
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 2: I have in a drawer down here her handwritten recipe
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 2: that I still with me, and I put it in
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 2: a sealed thing so I don't ever lose it, and
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 2: hanging in my kitchen area. My grandfather made this little
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 2: thing with roller for paper and a pen where you
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 2: could write your self notes or grocery lists, and I
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 2: still have that so from her, and I have that
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 2: thing from the family members that talk about I've read
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 2: it on the show a few times, some things that
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 2: went on back then, and they go through the whole
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 2: family tree. It was kind of neat, But I remember
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 2: that thing about the chicken. It was something special and
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 2: you might be right, it might be the whole end,
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 2: but it was the only way she would make dumplings.
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 2: Chicken and dumplings had to be that kind of chicken. Bill,
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 2: you had a lot of that in the cooking world
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 2: and your family was there a certain kind of chicken
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 2: they used.
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 4: Well, it's kind of Jackie. I mean, my grandmother and
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 4: grandfather were raised in West Texas, you know, on on
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 4: a farm, and then you know, the depression hit, so
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 4: I'm told, and so he ended up hitchhiking his way
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 4: to the df W area, and he ended up getting
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 4: a job with the railroad. A good job. But you
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 4: can take you know, the folks out of the country,
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 4: but you can't take the country out of the folks.
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 4: So not a lot of people had a chest freezer. Well,
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 4: my my grandparents had one, and it was kind of
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 4: situated between, you know, the their kitchen, which was fairly big,
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 4: at least I remember it to be that way in
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 4: the dining room, and they would my grandfather would order
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 4: a crate of these hens live he have him delivered
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 4: or go pick them up, and then I mean he
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 4: literally took like a block of wood, a stump or
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 4: whatever in his axe, and you know, he processed these birds.
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 4: He'd get as many of the feathers off as he could.
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 4: They'd come in. She had a gas stove, wool stove,
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 4: had a big old grittle down the center of it,
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 4: between between the burners, and it was of course it
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 4: was so what do you call that enameled and enameled
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 4: white cover. You take the cover off, you heat up
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 4: that grittle, and you could fill it full of pancakes.
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 4: She would turn on one of those burners, the gas burners,
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 4: and she would hold these chickens over it to singe
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 4: off any small remaining you know, pin feathers, and then
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 4: she would wash them and she would process them for her.
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 4: It was whole because if she fried chickens, she didn't
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 4: just fry a couple of legs and breast. She fried everything,
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 4: the wishbone, legs, the thighs, the breast, you know, you
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 4: name it. It was the whole bird. So no, they literally
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 4: in Irving, Texas, the home of the old Dallas Cowboys Stadium,
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 4: in a residential area. Granted they were really really big
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 4: lots processed chickens just right there in the backyard.
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 2: Wow, well, Bell, how about your family. Did your aunt
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 2: that did all the cooking do any of that?
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 5: No, it's my mom did the sugar a dumpling once
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 5: a year. But she did the as we used to
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 5: call them noodle dumplings. That she rolled them out and
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 5: they were strips that were about six inches long and
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 5: maybe an inch and a half wide. She didn't get
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 5: them into squares like Susan was talking about, but they
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 5: they were. She's just like big noodles. But that was
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 5: kind of a as she said, a fall or winter
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 5: event a dish and always look forward to. It was
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 5: really great. I hadn't I hadn't thought about that a
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 5: lot since all that went away, But that'd be pretty good,
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 5: pretty good stuff.
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, chicken and dublins. I know my grandmother she was
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 2: amazing and like Susie's and yours. I'm sure it's just
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 2: they knew, they knew stuff in the kitchen that unless
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 2: you were like Susie and worked with your mom and grandmother,
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 2: a lot of the young ladies didn't learn all that stuff.
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 2: So it's gone.
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 5: As you were talking about that, reminded me that George
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 5: Goebel and Dean Martin did a skit and they witted
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 5: to buy a chicken. They went into a pusher shop
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 5: to buy a chicken, and I think it was Dean
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 5: Martin said, well, do you want to get a pullet?
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 5: Goebel said no, we'll just carry it.
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 2: That's good. All right. Well, we're at that time of
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 2: night where start wrapping things up, and Sissy it is.
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 2: I cannot tell you how wonderful it is to have
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 2: you back with Bill and I. I'm pretty sure if
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 2: you listen to the shows, we floundered a whole lot
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 2: without you. But we tried not to ever say anything
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 2: about you. You know, we didn't talk about you all.
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, putting in my tea, and that's probably what was
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 4: wrong with me.
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 2: Now, if you had to put some in it, you'd
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 2: probably been better off or just skip the tea.
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 4: Well, you know what I did, as the doctor ordered,
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 4: I made myself a hot totty. Of course, I have
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 4: to dig around in the pantry because you know, I
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 4: put alcohol way way way back, and I'm like, okay, fine,
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 4: I'm going to make myself a hot totty. And so
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 4: I used really good honey from a friend of orus
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 4: not too far from here, and I had organic lemons,
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 4: I had finnamon, simmon sticks, you know, good water. And
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 4: after that simmered for a little bit, then you know,
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 4: I took it off the heat and I put the
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 4: whiskey in and of course I didn't want to kill
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 4: the whiskey, and so I put the equivalent of two
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 4: shots of Texas whiskey in there and drank it. And
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 4: I'm like, this does nothing, no bus, no nothing, no relaxation,
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 4: no cure. So I don't know. My grand father believes
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 4: in the hot toddies.
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but you only drink a little bit. Two shots
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 2: is how you warm up. You were supposed to have
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 2: another drink, and as stressed as you were, it would
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 2: have tooken more than two shots. I'm gonna have to
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 2: teach you how to be a bartender and so you
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 2: can do better that. Your cooking skills are beyond belief.
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 2: But when it comes to booze, I can help you.
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you're gonna You're gonna have to help me. See
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 4: we uh, we got like two minutes. If you know,
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 4: we've we've preached this before. Have you have your your
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 4: your medicines, you know, be prepared, have your cordial plus
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 4: have your resco. I would cough, Both of us would
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 4: cough and cough and coffin until we put a tea
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 4: spin of rescue in a little bit of water and
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 4: we drank it. I would say, in exactly in minutes,
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 4: that stuff was starting to come up. And so I think,
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 4: along with everything else, but I think that was the
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 4: number one thing that helped. Well, the bronco fact too,
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 4: but that's what cleared our lungs, That's what kept us
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 4: out of the hospital.
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would think that Veranon was a turning point too.
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 2: Because it was. It is kick butt. I'm looking at
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 2: it while we're talking, and especially good for colds and flus, shingles,
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 2: chronic fatigue. I'm sure you had all that parvovirus, epstein
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 2: barvirus and specializing in the immune support anti viral, and
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 2: it also did the enveloped and naked viruses, did both
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 2: of them. And it had a lot of good stuff
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 2: in their thusia leaf, Saint John's word, licorice root, all
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 2: kinds of stop. So I had some on my shelf
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 2: and I started taking it. That's what made me think
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 2: of that for you. So all right, Well, anything else,
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 2: susy before we let go to Bill.
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 4: Nope, I'm just fast.
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 2: We're happy you're here. They'll take it away.
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 5: No, don't, don't really have anything to wrap up with it.
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 5: It's it's good to have, good to have our cheft back.
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 5: And Bill, I'm glad you're doing better.
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she's got a lot of care packages to get
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  Speaker 2: caught up on. She's way behind and we do care well.
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  Speaker 4: No, I'm looking for him to arrive and they never
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  Speaker 4: do well. I take I take it back. Doc was
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  Speaker 4: so kind. Uh, you know it was hard on me.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't want to call him. I knew what he
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 4: was going to and on everything else that was going through.
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  Speaker 4: He sent me a care package.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, that's funny because I don't even care. I
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  Speaker 2: use that joke last week, so I thought i'd throw
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  Speaker 2: it back in. All right, Well, Susy, I can't tell
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  Speaker 2: you how much we missed you. Is this so wonderful
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  Speaker 2: to have you back. Bill and I we tried to
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  Speaker 2: do our best, but it definitely was missing without you.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm sure the audience is going to be so
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 2: happy in a few minutes when I post the show
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 2: and you're back, because you're the anchor. We need you,
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  Speaker 2: and Bill and I are just trying to hang on
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  Speaker 2: to your apron strings as we go through. So all right, guys, well,
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  Speaker 2: thank you so much for both being here. Thank you
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  Speaker 2: for helping me through a really rough time. It's good
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  Speaker 2: to have you guys on the show, and it's good
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  Speaker 2: to have you as friends. And I'm very grateful. May
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  Speaker 2: God bless you all with health and happiness, keep your
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 2: lives peaceful, free and safe, and all you countries that
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 2: are listening, we're so grateful and humbled. And it is
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 2: that time of night for good Scotch good cigars and
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  Speaker 2: good night.
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  Speaker 6: Seems the love I've known has always been the most
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  Speaker 6: destructive kind.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, that's why.
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  Speaker 6: Now I feel so opened.
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  Speaker 2: Before my time.
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  Speaker 6: Yesterday, when I was young.
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  Speaker 2: The taste of life was sweeper has.
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  Speaker 6: Rained upon my tongue. I teased at length, as if
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  Speaker 6: it were a foolish game, the way the eton breeze
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  Speaker 6: may tease a candle flame.
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  Speaker 2: A thousand dreams.
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  Speaker 6: I dreamed, the splendid things I plan, I always built
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  Speaker 6: to love on weekend, shifting sands, I lived by night
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  Speaker 6: and shunned the naked light of day, and all in now.
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  Speaker 5: I see how the years ran.
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  Speaker 6: Away yesterday when I was young.
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  Speaker 5: And so many for
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  Speaker 6: Me songs and we're ready to be sung, and so
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  Speaker 6: many while pleasures layd start funding, and so much pain