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Yoreh De’ah 216:9-217:4. Vows: On Specific Items; Based On Commonly Used Expressions · SHULCHAN ARUCH YOMI: Own the Halacha in 25 minutes a day!

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  OK, good morning. We're continuing Reish Ted Zayn,
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  we are on see if Ted all right, continuation same principles we
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  learned before now person says Amar Konam Basarviyan ally uses
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  the word to make a Corbin to make a Ned there on meat or wine
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  and he says it's on meat, meat and wine in general.
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  All right, mutterbytabshil shiechbo basar viaen alphapi
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  shinoda nimbo Tam. So then what about let's say a
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  person has a Stew, a soup, so can someone have the liquid and
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  the vegetables? So if he just says basar or wine
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  some, so then the tabshil, the rest of it, alfapecia, even
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  though there's flavor, we're going to see it's a mutter.
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  We'll keep reading Mutter batasha.
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  It's a mutter to eat everything else in there except for the
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  meat or the wine that's there. The EIM Amar, right?
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  Or if it gets mixed in here, we're talking about mean
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  shenomino. It's mixed in with a different
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  item. The next, the EIF, we'll talk
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  about mean bemino, the EIM. You know that in mind, the EIM
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  Amar koonam basar vayan shahanito EM oh shani Oh hell.
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  When he makes the neder on meat or wine, he specifies it's it's
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  in regards to eating or tasting. So then we'll keep reading.
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  Oh Shalmar Kohn ambassador Alai alai.
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  It doesn't say in general meat and wine.
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  He shows you, he points to it or picks it up and he says this
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  right. So then it's specific to this
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  item. This mamashas in front of him
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  then asur betavshel sheshbu ta'am basar O yain, right?
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  It's it's a heifetz. OK, then that is like a dillian
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  fine, because then you ask her that heifetz not wine or meat.
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  You are this Heifetz. So any, any part of it is going
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  to be aser. That's a heifetz of iser to him.
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  And so therefore, even the Tam is ASER.
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  OK, let's go to the next one. Yeah, the shock just points out
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  again, we're going to see this now.
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  We're going to see it primarily in the next couple.
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  See, Manim, a lot of this a little confusing, a little not
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  is he points out. But really we're talking about a
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  stum case. I think I said this yesterday.
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  A lot of these questions are stum when you didn't specify
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  what you had in mind and you didn't have anything in mind.
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  You just said it. But if he did have specific
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  kavana, Azlenan Batar Kavanaugh. So you go after his Qavana as
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  the shock says we will see more about this in Raichur.
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  So it changes things vein la kula, vein la kumra.
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  Of course, I believe it's user to taste it.
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  Let's say you're cooking it for other people and you want to
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  taste it, but it's a you made another.
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  It's an isser of that's an isser for you.
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  Now, unless you stipulate it, it's user to me except for to
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  taste it for whatever to taste it.
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  Good needs arev yayin ZE OK, sha Astro alasmo the yayin Aker.
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  OK, so you have a case of wine, whatever that item is.
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  We use the example of wine over here and you turn it into an
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  hefsav esser because of your neder and now it gets mixed in
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  with other wine, right? Ming vamino, afilu tipa behavit,
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  even one drop nessar hako, everything becomes asser.
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  How can that be right? It's me there, abana me pinay
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  sheesh Lodi hishaya al nidro NASA cadaver sheeshal matirian
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  sheno battel bimino. As we already learned this
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  right, Esther Behatter that anything that's aser bimino
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  sheeshal hetarian, it's not bato even baalif because it's
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  Davarshi Ishil Matirian and anytime you could do a Taras
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  Nadarian, that's called Davarshi Ishil Matirian.
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  The shot also points out, thank you for reminding me.
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  But he points out you could eat and if you don't know if you
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  taste any item, you can ask a friend because it's kosher food.
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  It just you have the Ned there on you.
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  He doesn't. He didn't make that Ned there.
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  So you can you can ask him can you taste it or not?
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  And you can trust him, OK. And the Taz also points out
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  we're talking about wine with wine.
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  If you have wine, that one's sour.
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  And now it's called wine vinegar.
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  That's not called wine, That's called vinegar.
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  So that's not a case of min de mino.
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  So And OK, anyways, you had olive Omar al osimo ye yen
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  oshoploni oshimacomploni Dino kiddin oser al atsimo yayin ZE.
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  If you specify you know your friend's wine or someone's wine
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  or the wine of this place, it's as if you said this wine.
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  And so everything we learned until now applies accordingly.
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  It's asur, right? Even the Teema, the ishbotam
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  yain tastes like a little bit of wine.
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  Vahu adenim also shinasa khomitz akashinada shahu asur Allah.
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  Now this is contrast. So we said, let's say it already
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  became us, it was wine, and then a month later it turns into
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  vinegar. So even though now it's comets,
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  it's not called wine, right? If you were to make a net there
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  on yayin, that would not include this, but it became aser.
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  At the time when you made the nether, it was yayin.
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  So it became an hafitz of isser. And just because it starts to
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  sour or change into helmets, that's not going to take away
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  the isser. OK, whatever was vinegar when he
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  made a neder was vinegar That's never included in yayin.
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  OK, the and I got the yayin asar Allahaballah hometz because he
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  said a nether on yayin, not a nether on hometz.
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  We said that. Fine, let's go to your bed, Amar
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  Konam's 18th vanavium ally. So you say the words that olives
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  and grapes are asar to me, right?
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  You use the proper lachonas to make it a nether and you use
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  basically the issue is you use the words zaytim van nugen.
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  So then whatever other fruits as well as are the examples mutter
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  bishamin viayen ayotse mahem. Then the wine.
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  Sorry the OK let's see if it applies to other fruits.
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  But let's keep reading. I believe so the Now you can
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  derive from there oil or wine, right?
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  Mutter Bisham and viye and ayotse mehem.
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  Now you didn't say ZE, you just said ZE Team Vanavim in general.
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  So therefore the juice, the olive, the olive oil, the oil,
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  whatever it is that Yeah. And then the wine is Mutter when
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  it comes out because it has a different name, it's not the
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  same item anymore. Let's let's keep reading that
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  Afilu Kadosh. Even though it's fresh, so it
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  still tastes like, you know, grapes and it tastes like the
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  olives, right? The IEM Amar konam zetem vanavim
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  shahani toeim OSHA Amar's konam zetem alu ally.
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  If you specify that I'm tasting or you, you just you say these.
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  That's the case that we had previously the beginning of this
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  Simon, where you specify these. So then Asur of the Mashkim
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  Ayotzimam, even from the liquids that come out of them, then it's
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  us. But that's if you specify these,
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  if you just say the word, the name of the fruit, but now it's
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  the juice. So that's interesting.
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  I have, I'm a little confused right now.
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  If afterwards you squeeze it, we'll discuss.
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  And if you say these, it becomes an item of esser.
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  So therefore it stays even. It's the whole the item itself
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  is isser and the Tam is also going to be aser.
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  Let's let's let's go to ratio design and we'll try and come
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  back to there the next time Allah ratio design.
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  Now really you, you, you're us. You're making a net there on
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  items. And really the point is is
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  Holching Binidarium Akhar Lashun Binayadam.
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  OK, so that's the title. Simon, Reish your design and
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  let's go to Olive. And then the the main point is,
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  and we're going to see this, the post can point out is in a case
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  of based on how people speak, right?
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  In a stom case, if you don't specify, we go after the way
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  it's common for everyone to speak.
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  If it's not clear, you know, it's a rare phrase and it's not
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  clear. Maybe we could deduce what you
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  had in mind, but it's not totally clear what you had in
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  mind or because people don't speak like that.
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  It's you use a language that's not normally spoken or if you're
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  in Khutzla or it's or wherever you are and you're in a place no
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  one speaks Hebrew and you use Hebrew.
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  So in these cases, when it's not clear, the Laha is you go after
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  Lashan Tara. That's what the post can say all
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  over the Shah brings that, but it's it's all over.
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  OK, let's read it inside Alef Nadar Onishpa.
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  It's the same thing. This whole concept of Lashan
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  Binay Adam, again, you will see when we get to ratio Udkhat more
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  a little bit here. It also goes by Lush Al
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  Banyadam, but it also goes on and it depends on, you know,
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  where you live, the century you live, the generation you live,
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  But it also goes on based on what your Kavana is.
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  But and OK, let's let's see inside with really ratio and
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  Zion go a little bit together with ratio Udkhat.
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  OK, a person makes a nether or a shvua.
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  So this halach of lasha manedam applies to both nadarim and
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  shavuas. So if he what does he say?
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  He makes a neder mahamavuchal, right?
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  Whether the lashan is based on korban or ISR, whatever it is,
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  you make a neder on an item and you say the word mahamavucha,
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  whatever is cooked. So then it depends aimed
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  Arifalto Malcolm bilto bilto lasha in that place, in that
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  language of bilto Zaman in that time period, Shakori mvushal a
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  few. It's a villa Shaluk.
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  If when a person says ma'am mvushal, then it includes also
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  items that are roasted or grilled.
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  That's sleeve and shaluk happens to be a Mahocus.
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  The Tosos on the run says it means partially cooked.
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  The Roche says it means it's overcooked.
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  The the Shah just points out the the run partial cooked.
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  The Arkashilkhan brings both of them and I'm not sure if there's
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  enough coming up because it really goes by lush and Binet
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  Adam, but the Shah definitely prefers the runs anyways, let's
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  keep going Hareza ASA. So if it normally includes when
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  you say the word mvushal, it means roasted and partially
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  cooked or whatever it is overcooked, then it's included
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  when you make another on mbushal.
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  You can't eat anything that was roasted or grilled or or
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  partially or overly cooked. Hareza ASA baq baqal reem aim
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  darkum likot mbushal ella abbasar shinbasha bamayim
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  ubatavlan. If when you say the word cooked
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  right because literally that's the more technical correct
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  definition. It means only when you cook it
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  with some liquid, some water, and yeah.
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  And then maybe boiled is included, but we'll keep
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  reading. But whatever it is.
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  And you put some little spices, a little salt, a little this,
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  little that, and that's when you mean mabusha.
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  So if that's what people mean only when they say mabusha.
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  So then if you want to have a piece of grilled chicken, I
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  raise a matter. No problem.
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  But sweet Ubisha Luke Bahrain and Mahusha and Lamatugan bokhin
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  Bo akhara lashon binet Adam. A person makes a nether on
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  something that's roasted or something that shall Luke or
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  something that's shine. So that's going to be smoked or
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  something that's fried or something that's cooked in hot,
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  naturally hot spring water. So then is it included?
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  So you go after lashon binet Adam of the Binet ear, whatever
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  is normally used. OK, bet that's that's going to
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  be the guiding principle for for basically the entire SIF or at
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  least most of it. And we're just going to go
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  through a lot of examples, but I know there MI masa kadera, a
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  person makes a Nader on masa kadera, right?
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  Something that's normally cooked in a pot, right?
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  I don't know, pasta, whatever you might think.
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  Eno us or ella midvarinch martiki mutaba kadera, if you
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  use the expression masa kadera. So then it means it has to be in
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  order to be included in the nether.
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  It has to be something that's boiled in a pot.
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  Camo rivos olivivos ohayote Abraham or such as refote and
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  levy vote. Not sure exactly, but I guess
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  they explain it means wheat or grains or kernels that are
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  crushed that's refote that you cook in there or something
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  that's deep fried, so basically submerged in water or oil.
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  And those are the examples. OK, that's what is for sure
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  going to be included. But asar atsimo mikolehyure
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  lekadera, if you didn't say the word maas ekadera, he said the
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  words kolehyure lekadera hareza asar bikole Hamid bashi
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  mikadera. Anything that was cooked in a
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  pot, then it's included. OK, Nadar mehayure le toh
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  hatanor. You make another on and you say
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  the words. Anything that goes in a oven, it
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  goes down in and that's the expression that goes down in the
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  oven. So then ain't no Ester elaba
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  pot. That normally only refers to pot
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  bread. Those are the types of things
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  you lower and enter into the oven.
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  That's the expression whatever not living in those times, the
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  imamar kolma aset tanur alai. But if you use the expression of
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  anything that's in the oven, anything that's cooked or comes
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  out of the oven, however, whatever kolma aset tanur alai,
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  use that expression. So then that's more inclusive
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  and aser. But kolhana asseba Tanner,
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  anything that goes that's in the oven becomes aser.
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  OK, let's go to Gemo Nadar Anishba person makes a Nader on
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  Mina Maliak uses the words minha maliak, right?
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  So I mean salty. So EME dark on the crows Maliak.
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  If you it's normal. When everyone says the word
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  maliak, you mean anything that has salt in there Areza aser,
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  bacola malukin. So then anything that has salt
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  in there is aser. That's part of your nether.
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  I feel Edo maliak Allahu kayam lasha, even if it's not there
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  for just to help preserve it. You don't use it for anything
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  else. Flavour this that.
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  It's just to preserve it. It's still going to be usser
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  because there's salt in there. Again, it depends on the lush of
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  banana, the aim dog. But if a person says Malia, he
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  always means salted fish. So then ain't no asser Allah
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  with dog Malia, right? And that's it.
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  And the only thing that's going to be asser is dog Malia,
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  because when people on the street use those words, that's
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  what they mean. Fine.
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  Nadar Onishpa Minha kavush. A person makes a Nader shuwa on
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  uses the words minha kavush, something that's, I don't know,
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  you would call it pickled, right?
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  Something like that, even dark. I'm gonna call it kavush akola
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  kavushi. If you say the words, I don't
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  know, pickled or Pickles, whatever it is, if you're in a
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  place and when people say the word Pickles, perhaps it means
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  all kinds of pickled vegetables on torshi or whatever you're
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  eating. So then hareza, aser bakko, then
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  anything that's got pickled is aser.
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  The E main darkly about kabush, A yarek kabush bilbod.
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  But if it only includes certain vegetables or just cucumbers,
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  when you use the word Pickles and you know us are a little bit
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  kabush, so yarek. So then it only includes that
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  pickled vegetable or perhaps only pickled cucumbers.
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  I'm just I'm raising the question.
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  I have to I guess ask around for sure.
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  What how people refer to the word Pickles, the Hein Co,
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  Coyote Baze and so too like that.
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  OK, I don't know. I think it always means
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  cucumbers unless you specify, right?
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  If you're American, I love right in Israel, you say malafa,
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  right? In Israel, probably in Hebrew,
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  Khammutzin could include more and you say malafa phoneim
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  Khamutzin and malafafa phoneim is just raw cucumbers.
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  So I guess it's more of AI don't know in London also in England,
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  you think also Pickles means only cucumbers.
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  I think that's so that's I think in America as well.
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  OK, how you mix that? You could do a survey how you
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  mix up Benet Hamako. Now if some of the people Corium
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  lokah, oh, mix that in corium, you have some this way and some
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  that way, right? So do you go after the majority?
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  So the general rule is en hokhin akharov, you do not go after the
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  majority. We we pretty much touched upon
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  this halacha earlier. El Akhar raises safik nadarim.
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  This if you go, we don't go after you don't go after ROV
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  because even if it is a ROV, it could still in the person may
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  have had in mind the minority opinion, right?
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  I mean, we're not talking about a, you know, 95 to 5.
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  You know, if everyone knows whatever, whatever what it
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  means, then that's what it means.
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  That's your lush and benedum of that place.
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  We're not going to worry about a 5%.
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  Where do you draw the line? I don't know, 10 percent, 45%,
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  thirty, I don't know. But if it's clear, it's clear.
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  If it's not clear, we call it a Suffolk and Nadarium and we call
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  Suffolk Nadarium. Lahmer Nadarium is a Dinda Raisa
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  and so therefore we go to Khoma. However, in the case of you
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  could we do trust him to say Nitkavanti ka, even if,
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  according to the Rove, even I believe we said even by an AMA
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  arts. So anytime you go, it's a it's a
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  it's a Suffolk, some this, some that, but most go this way.
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  Then you can trust the guy that say if you had in mind the the
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  same as the robe, then that together we'll work to trust
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  him. That fine, let's do one more.
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  Let's try and finish the vegetables real quick.
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  Omar konam Yerakalai person says the word vegetable on me Ena
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  asar ella. If you'd stop just say yerrak
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  alai vegetable on me then it means it's raw.
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  The Imam are yerke kadera alai and if you say the word zerrak
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  from a pot on me asar afba then it's asar.
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  I believe you're saying if it's cooked or pickled the imam are
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  yira coming to Bashel back there?
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  I use the word zira coming to bashel.
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  So then you know asur alabet mid bashel BA then it has to be only
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  what is cooked right? OK, no meal asur bacola mid
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  bashel in BA AF be de Ling. If you use the word mid bashel
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  then it includes others, other all vegetables, even de Ling.
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  The Lewin is a mean yarek, shalav, gadola, biotra.
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  They have very long leaves and it's included in yarek.
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  OK, shakola varsha, shaliaka nimla khala.
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  Normally yarak means greens. Normally, yarak means greens,
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  not vegetables. OK, OK, I'm at the time, but I,
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  I, I, I very good. OK, so it may only mean leaves
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  fine shako. I don't know.
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  Well, based on our examples, it seems to include both, but OK,
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  whatever. The lacho binyadam is shako.
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  We're going to see this again. Anytime you have a Shalia, you
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  send them to the store and you say get me something.
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  And then he calls you back and says they don't have what you
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  have, but they have this. That item in general is included
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  in that mean. Again, it depends on, you know,
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  your Shaliak and what the case is.
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  And you know, some people think differently, but that's the
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  general rule is because he's only asking you about something
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  that's similar enough that people would include it and have
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  it in mind. Otherwise he wouldn't ask you
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  OK, the IM amarala ishuka kakli yarek.
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  You tell him, you know, get me a yarek veno mozza ella Deluim.
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  He only finds Deluim with Nimlakbow.
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  He asks about it Lomar they said Deluim, but they don't have they
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  do you want Deluim? That's what I found like that
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  about not there Madeline Mutterby yarek so deluing could
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  be included in yarek. But if a person says I only want
• 22:02
  these deluing, I don't know these long leaves wherever they
• 22:05
  are. So then it would be much of a
• 22:07
  year. It could be too different.
• 22:08
  Alright, we'll finish vegetables next time.