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SPEAKER_03: All right, so let's go ahead and get into it.
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SPEAKER_03: Into the first thing we want to talk about, AJ, uh, which was uh, well, we did a uh live earlier this week, a prompt to live on Utah Jazz DNA.
2:10
SPEAKER_03: First of all, appreciate everybody.
2:12
SPEAKER_03: Thanks for dealing with us on the technical difficulties on that one.
2:15
SPEAKER_02: That was that one was brutal.
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SPEAKER_03: We couldn't seem to figure out all the technology in the world cameras, iPads, uh, airpods, everything that I'm here on set.
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SPEAKER_03: Like it's just what a mess.
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SPEAKER_03: Anyway, uh we dropped we broke it down live there about what was going on when it comes to the Utah Jazz and the extension we made with Keontae George.
2:32
SPEAKER_03: Uh, it was uh recently after that, of course, right after we signed off where we got more details on that contract.
2:38
SPEAKER_03: Uh, but that's what we want to talk about, AJ.
2:39
SPEAKER_03: Want to kind of jump into that.
2:41
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, absolutely.
2:42
SPEAKER_01: I mean, and like like you mentioned, it kind of goes back to the breaking news, right?
2:45
SPEAKER_01: And um the big thing we didn't want, we didn't want any chance that Keonta left this team, right?
2:51
SPEAKER_01: So, I mean, I think it was we we kind of understand that if the Jazz put him into one of these prove it years, you know, and tried to offer him, and you know, then he hit restrict free agency.
3:01
SPEAKER_01: Um, but we don't have to worry about that because the Jazz made it happen.
3:04
SPEAKER_01: They signed him to a five-year deal um worth a total of 157.5 million.
3:09
SPEAKER_01: Um now the guaranteed actual amount on that contract is 155 million with 2.5 million being offered in incentives.
3:17
SPEAKER_01: Um and the incentives is where this contract kind of gets interesting, Darren.
3:21
SPEAKER_03: Yes, exactly.
3:22
SPEAKER_03: When it comes to that, man, that's what we want to get in get into there.
3:26
SPEAKER_03: Um I break that down, right?
3:28
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: Incentive AJ's breaks down.
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SPEAKER_03: No, you do you do their incentives.
3:32
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
3:32
SPEAKER_01: Okay, so yeah, um so he has five 100,000 bonuses per season um that are that are kind of a total offer of 500,000 um in incentives per season.
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SPEAKER_01: Um, the first one of his incentives is tied to availability.
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SPEAKER_01: Um, he earns a hundred thousand dollar bonus if he plays in at least sixty-five regular season games.
3:51
SPEAKER_01: Uh-huh.
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SPEAKER_01: Um, the second bonus is obviously got roughly three that he can earn.
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SPEAKER_01: Um, and he's paid$100,000 for each playoff series win that the Jazz um take home.
4:03
SPEAKER_01: And then the final is time tied to defensive team defensive performance.
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SPEAKER_01: So there's some certain defensive metrics that the Jazz have spelled out for him.
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SPEAKER_01: If he reaches those metrics, he also earns that last$100,000 bonus.
4:16
SPEAKER_03: Very good, very good.
4:17
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
4:18
SPEAKER_03: So this kind of tells a lot of this what this does, AJ, is this kind of this incentives tells us a lot more about the what the team is planning on doing than it is simply just about what they want from the player.
4:27
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: Uh, this is something that we haven't heard from from the Jazz in like over three years about what their plan is.
4:32
SPEAKER_03: And it by sleeping, slipping these incentives into Keonta's contract really kind of tells us what the Jazz are planning on doing.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
4:40
SPEAKER_03: Um, so let's go with that first one.
4:41
SPEAKER_03: First, play 65 games for 100K, right?
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SPEAKER_03: Yep.
4:44
SPEAKER_03: Now, this is obviously the only one that's tied to him, uh, by the way, and we'll get into what the other ones mean in here in a bit.
4:49
SPEAKER_03: But your best ability is your availability, right?
4:52
SPEAKER_03: And the jazz want him to be part of this and stay on the floor, is kind of the key thing when it comes to that.
4:58
SPEAKER_03: We got another comment here, and we'll get into those here in just a second.
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SPEAKER_03: So appreciate it.
5:02
SPEAKER_03: Thanks, Shane, for being able to jump in there.
5:04
SPEAKER_03: The second one is also going to be uh another 100K uh for each playoff series win that you mentioned there before on that one.
5:10
SPEAKER_03: Now, again, this is telling us what they aren't telling us here.
5:14
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
5:14
SPEAKER_04: Right?
5:14
SPEAKER_03: The Utah Jazz have always said something and then done another.
5:17
SPEAKER_03: This, we have it in a contract here that this contract when this contract kicks in, that they are expecting to win playoff series.
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SPEAKER_03: Not just games, AJ.
5:26
SPEAKER_03: No.
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SPEAKER_03: Actual series.
5:28
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: So, and this isn't tied to just him specifically.
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SPEAKER_03: This is the most important part here.
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SPEAKER_03: These incentives, um, they're not like any playoff series where you score X amount of points or do Y, whatever.
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SPEAKER_03: This is specifically tied to team success, and I'll get into why that's important.
5:44
SPEAKER_03: Uh, and then the third one you mentioned, defensive metrics, team defense.
5:47
SPEAKER_03: Not only are they specifically talking about, they're not talking about steals, rebounds, you know, different things like that.
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SPEAKER_03: For him personally, the report is that it's tied to team defensive metrics while he's on the floor.
6:02
SPEAKER_01: Right.
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SPEAKER_03: Meaning, regardless of who's out there, AJ, regardless of who's on the floor, whether it's starters, bench rolls, whatever, he is incentivized, not only incentivized, AJ, but responsible to make sure that this team is defending up to a certain level.
6:20
SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
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SPEAKER_03: All on Keonta's shoulders.
6:22
SPEAKER_03: They're incentivizing his pay every year for that.
6:25
SPEAKER_03: And I think that's huge.
6:27
SPEAKER_01: Oh, it's it's massive.
6:28
SPEAKER_01: And I think this speaks a lot about the leader that Keontae is and has become.
6:32
SPEAKER_01: Um, because we all love Laurie Markinen, but he's not a leader out there, right?
6:36
SPEAKER_01: Like he he's a vet, he's a great player, but Keonta or but Laurie Marketing is not that guy that's extra loud on the floor.
6:42
SPEAKER_01: He's not out there telling guys where to be.
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SPEAKER_01: Jaron Jackson Jr., same thing.
6:45
SPEAKER_01: He's just kind of one of those guys, hey, they're they're great in the locker room.
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SPEAKER_01: These guys all love each other.
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SPEAKER_01: That's that's clear.
6:51
SPEAKER_01: But Keontae George has become a leader on the floor for this team.
6:55
SPEAKER_01: And and people have seen this.
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SPEAKER_01: I mean, you you can watch the way that they are in public.
7:00
SPEAKER_01: Keontae's the guy, the one that's outspoken, right?
7:02
SPEAKER_01: And they need Keontae to be that guy while he's on the floor.
7:05
SPEAKER_01: They need him to make sure that guys are taking the right assignments and going under on screens.
7:10
SPEAKER_01: And Keonta's got to be the guy, the voice out there.
7:13
SPEAKER_01: And I think paying him uh a potential half a million dollars in every single year that he does it just for being the guy that he already is is a great way to incentivize him to keep doing the right thing.
7:24
SPEAKER_01: Um, like you said, uh the best availability, the best ability is availability.
7:29
SPEAKER_01: That's absolutely right.
7:30
SPEAKER_01: Keontae's got to stay healthy, which he hasn't had any major health concerns, you know, in his career so far, but not real health concerns.
7:37
SPEAKER_01: Not real health concerns, and that's that's exactly it, though.
7:39
SPEAKER_01: So he's got to continue to be out there, you know.
7:41
SPEAKER_01: Being, you know, being the voice um for the defense is gonna is gonna pay him huge.
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SPEAKER_01: And I love the fact that if they can make and win playoff series, he's also incentivized because this team's better with Keontae on the floor, and I'm looking forward to seeing him out there and getting this team some playoff series victories.
7:58
SPEAKER_03: Absolutely, man.
7:59
SPEAKER_03: And I think what one of the things it also gives us is it gives us a huge hint into the jazz game plan and what that's going to be on the court.
8:06
SPEAKER_03: Uh, we're going to not have, again, you don't late in a contract with this month's incentives if you're going to be running a specific type of defense.
8:14
SPEAKER_03: This one's definitely geared towards more of a team defensive concept, which means less uh ISO, more zone, more communication on switching, etc., etc.
8:24
SPEAKER_03: This is, you know, this contract tells us a lot more than just simply, you know, oh, he's gonna be incentivized.
8:29
SPEAKER_03: There's some incentives things in there for him.
8:31
SPEAKER_03: Like there's no there's no like other stuff when you see this, like uh Zion Williamson and some other ones where there's weight clauses and whether or not he's working out and you know curfews and stuff like that.
8:42
SPEAKER_01: This is where they're asking those are wild, but they have to put those in for some players that are that are fat and crazy.
8:48
SPEAKER_03: This is this is a perfect example of a team where they brought in a potential superstar, but they let the their guy know, hey, you're the captain of this team.
8:58
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, this team's going to follow your lead.
9:00
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we haven't forgot about you, we haven't forgot about what you did.
9:03
SPEAKER_03: We're gonna make a commitment to you, but on top of that, we're gonna make sure that you uh continue to earn a little bit of this and take some responsibility for what's going on on the court with this team.
9:10
SPEAKER_03: Yep.
9:11
SPEAKER_03: I love it.
9:11
SPEAKER_03: I absolutely love it from both sides.
9:13
SPEAKER_03: Love that he signed it, love that he accepted that responsibility, you know, because he could easily just bet on himself and been like, you know, no, I'm good.
9:19
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no.
9:20
SPEAKER_01: You know, go into and there's some comments that that are that just kind of feed exactly into that point, dude.
9:24
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, let's get into this quick here.
9:26
SPEAKER_03: Let's start with Shane here.
9:27
SPEAKER_03: We want to jump into Shane's comment here first.
9:30
SPEAKER_03: He gave us two jewels, a silver star.
9:32
SPEAKER_03: Appreciate that.
9:33
SPEAKER_03: Thank you very much.
9:35
SPEAKER_03: Applause there.
9:37
SPEAKER_03: There you go.
9:38
SPEAKER_03: We'll get better at that, I promise.
9:39
SPEAKER_03: Uh when it cuts that, so appreciate that.
9:43
SPEAKER_03: Uh, we also got another comment here from uh Shane there.
9:46
SPEAKER_03: Uh, let's see here.
9:47
SPEAKER_03: Saw the ringer ranked the jazz right above the heat in preseason power rankings.
9:51
SPEAKER_03: Uh, what do y'all think about uh those rankings?
9:54
SPEAKER_03: Did you see it?
9:55
SPEAKER_03: Um, so no, I didn't see the power rankings, did you?
9:58
SPEAKER_01: I I did see these power rankings, and I am not sure how I feel about that.
10:04
SPEAKER_01: The heat, the heat with some of the additions they made this offseason could be a really scary team.
10:09
SPEAKER_01: And I think the jazz are gonna be really good.
10:11
SPEAKER_01: I think the jazz are gonna be much better, much more fun to watch than than I think even some NBA analysts are thinking.
10:20
SPEAKER_01: I think this team has the potential to be really, really talented.
10:24
SPEAKER_01: Um I'm not sure if I put them above the heat quite yet, but I think this is this team's got more.
10:28
SPEAKER_01: I think this team has more potential than the heat do.
10:30
SPEAKER_01: For sure.
10:31
SPEAKER_03: Dude, I'm I'm putting them above the heat.
10:33
SPEAKER_03: I'm putting them above the heat, man.
10:34
SPEAKER_03: Uh, yeah, okay, you got Bam Autobio, but you also got uh Giannis, two bigs, uh one of them, and they both need to work in transition.
10:42
SPEAKER_03: Neither one of them are playmakers, they're both transition ball handlers, both need to operate around the rim.
10:47
SPEAKER_03: And then you add Clay Thompson for that 3 and D uh Ray Allen type thing.
10:51
SPEAKER_03: I think that was the best move they did, by the way.
10:53
SPEAKER_03: Really shoring that up.
10:55
SPEAKER_03: But yeah, to me, man, I think while I think the Miami Heat has the star power, uh, I definitely think the Jazz are going to be a more talented team.
11:05
SPEAKER_03: Look for uh Miracle of Miami to come from the Utah Jazz this year.
11:08
SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
11:09
SPEAKER_01: I think the Jazz are have a deeper roster.
11:12
SPEAKER_01: I think they have more talent deeper into, you know, because they're deeper past their first five, where where the Heat are, you know, they're really they're really invested into that starting lineup.
11:21
SPEAKER_01: Um but but I don't know.
11:24
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I I don't know how you could look at a a young uh a Giannis and Bam at a bio lineup and be like, this team might not be very good.
11:31
SPEAKER_01: I wouldn't say that team's gonna run up and down the floor and they're going to pounce you.
11:35
SPEAKER_03: Okay, take this, take, take the heat, and I love this question.
11:38
SPEAKER_03: Thanks, Shane, because this is fun.
11:39
SPEAKER_03: Absolutely, yeah.
11:40
SPEAKER_03: Take the heat, put them in the west.
11:42
SPEAKER_03: Do they finish above the Utah Jazz?
11:44
SPEAKER_03: No.
11:44
SPEAKER_03: Okay, that's kind of my point.
11:45
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's kind of where I'm putting.
11:47
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I I don't think that they're they're quite there.
11:49
SPEAKER_01: I don't well, I don't know.
11:51
SPEAKER_03: Maybe, right?
11:52
SPEAKER_03: I don't know, maybe it's tough.
11:53
SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
11:53
SPEAKER_03: That is tough, yeah.
11:54
SPEAKER_03: I can make an argument both ways, be honest with you.
11:56
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
11:57
SPEAKER_01: That's that's a great question, though.
11:58
SPEAKER_01: So thank you very much.
11:59
SPEAKER_03: That was fun.
12:00
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I like it.
12:01
SPEAKER_03: Got another we got a comment here from friend of the channel, uh, my uh McKinley Cutler.
12:05
SPEAKER_03: Let's see here.
12:05
SPEAKER_03: I love that all the incentives that are based on the team's success implement rather than a personal achievement like all NBAs or all-stars.
12:13
SPEAKER_01: And and that's exactly what that was exactly the comment that I saw come up that we were just talking about.
12:18
SPEAKER_01: And and the big thing is here is like we we incentivized Donovan Mitchell to be all NBA.
12:24
SPEAKER_01: We incentivized him to be an NBA all-star.
12:26
SPEAKER_01: And what he did was he became a really good player for himself, and that was the only thing that he became a really good player for.
12:32
SPEAKER_01: He was always searching for a bucket.
12:34
SPEAKER_01: Love Donovan.
12:35
SPEAKER_01: Don't get me wrong, I got a picture of him in my office.
12:36
SPEAKER_01: Like, I think Donovan's a great player, but we incentivized him for the wrong things, and that team was really good, but but they didn't have enough to get to the next level, right?
12:46
SPEAKER_01: And that was why they ended up tearing it all apart and rebuilding, and now we've got the jazz we got now.
12:50
SPEAKER_01: So I love the to incentivize a whole team is just a much better way to go.
12:55
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, agreed, agreed.
12:57
SPEAKER_03: Um, got another comment here from McKinley there.
12:59
SPEAKER_03: Apparently, some teams uh want to add weight clauses for players uh that are ripped, like uh the Pistons pissing off Durham.
13:06
SPEAKER_03: Did you see this one?
13:07
SPEAKER_01: No, I didn't see this.
13:08
SPEAKER_03: Oh my gosh, yeah.
13:09
SPEAKER_03: So they're basically kind of treating him like Zion, putting in weight clauses in his contract, uh, because they're worried about his max extension.
13:15
SPEAKER_03: Because basically he balled out during a contract year and they're just worried about it because, like, if they give him a contract, you know, he might take it easy, you know, and then just you know, so I mean it's an interesting It's a real thing too, though.
13:29
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I I see it, I could see where that happened.
13:31
SPEAKER_03: I mean, Ronnie Hood kind of did that when he got paid, not necessarily weights, but definitely took off uh took off the gas a little bit when he got paid.
13:38
SPEAKER_01: Oh, he took it off way off the gas, you know.
13:40
SPEAKER_01: So he was a different player after he got his contract.
13:42
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so I mean there's there's a little bit of that for sure.
13:44
SPEAKER_03: I I but yeah, I thought that was kind of an insulting man.
13:47
SPEAKER_03: This guy's a cornerstone for what they're trying to build there between Wade, Cunningham, and him.
13:51
SPEAKER_03: I just think that there's a lot.
13:52
SPEAKER_03: Uh I yeah, that one, yeah.
13:55
SPEAKER_03: That one to me, I would if I was the player, I'd be a bit insulted by that one for sure.
13:59
SPEAKER_03: Um, we also got a comment here from Shane.
14:01
SPEAKER_03: Agree, Jazz are a deeper roster for sure, but Davian Mitchell and uh Andrew Wiggins are slept on.
14:06
SPEAKER_03: Andrew Wiggins is slept on when he wants to play.
14:10
SPEAKER_03: Like I swear to God, this kid's got all the talent in the world.
14:13
SPEAKER_03: And if he if he's got a little bit, I wouldn't say Ben Anderson.
14:19
SPEAKER_03: Uh Ben Anderson, we're thinking of just signed with uh a freaking team, by the way.
14:26
SPEAKER_03: Who's a professional fisher?
14:28
SPEAKER_03: Ben Simmons.
14:29
SPEAKER_01: Ben Simmons.
14:30
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, Ben Simmons.
14:30
SPEAKER_03: He just signed a contract with Sacktown.
14:32
SPEAKER_03: Did you see that?
14:32
SPEAKER_03: No, Sacramento.
14:33
SPEAKER_03: He's playing for Sacramento this year.
14:35
SPEAKER_03: That's insane.
14:36
SPEAKER_01: Doesn't surprise me at all.
14:37
SPEAKER_03: After becoming a professional fisher, goes back.
14:39
SPEAKER_03: But he's not quite Ben Simmons, but I think he's kind of a little bit of Roddy Hood in him.
14:42
SPEAKER_03: Once he's got his confidence shot, he's you gotta pull him off the court and reset.
14:46
SPEAKER_03: Because once he's a little bit more than a big thing, he's just such a streaky player, dude.
14:49
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he'll have three or four really good games where you're like, oh, this is why this kid was like a top NBA draft pick.
14:54
SPEAKER_01: I mean, he was number one, wasn't he?
14:56
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I think, yeah.
14:57
SPEAKER_03: Um, yeah, he was one of and then Jabari Parker was number two, or as one of the two.
15:01
SPEAKER_03: I'm pretty sure, yeah.
15:02
SPEAKER_01: I'm pretty sure Andrew Wiggins was number one.
15:03
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, neither one of those contracts really panned out, to be honest with you, as far as his dress.
15:06
SPEAKER_03: No, they both they both.
15:07
SPEAKER_03: Andrew Wiggins still good, still a number one, still a but not what they were projected to be for sure.
15:14
SPEAKER_01: You gonna get ready to do another oh, I guess you gotta go this way.
15:18
SPEAKER_01: I'll let you do it.
15:19
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we got another uh another five jewels uh donated here from uh Shane there.
15:25
SPEAKER_03: Thank you very much.
15:26
SPEAKER_03: Five jewel five jewels, go team.
15:28
SPEAKER_03: Absolutely, that deserves another applause.
15:30
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15:31
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15:32
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15:32
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15:34
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15:36
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15:38
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15:39
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15:42
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15:44
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15:46
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15:48
SPEAKER_03: Love this stuff because again, this is why we do this show live, because it's a lot of fun.
15:51
SPEAKER_01: It is so much more fun.
15:52
SPEAKER_03: Um, so now this week on this segment, we mentioned it last week where we talked about you know our jazz fans being big brain, right?
15:59
SPEAKER_03: Like it's not just these are just more intelligent NBA fans.
16:02
SPEAKER_03: We're not just gonna be simply coping our hands being like, yeah, we're trying.
16:05
SPEAKER_03: This is so great.
16:06
SPEAKER_03: We want to give you a few things to look uh look forward to early on that would kind of tell you how this team is gonna shape out and how what you guys need to keep an eye out for uh that we feel uh makes a good indication of how good this team's gonna be, or you know, whether or not we have any concerns.
16:21
SPEAKER_03: Last week we talked about um Will Hardy and whether or not he can turn a losing culture into a winning culture and how he's gonna what he's gonna do when it comes to actually having to perform when they actually need to try to win some games.
16:34
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
16:34
SPEAKER_03: And appreciate all, you know, all five of you that watched that video.
16:37
SPEAKER_03: Appreciate it very much.
16:38
SPEAKER_03: Everybody that joined us live for that conversation.
16:40
SPEAKER_03: That was a great, uh, great uh interaction there.
16:42
SPEAKER_03: Uh but this week, AJ, let's talk about this week.
16:45
SPEAKER_03: Now, what we want to see early on is between DP and key.
16:51
SPEAKER_03: We're calling this one, and we mean this pun here, is key stats to look for between these two, right?
16:59
SPEAKER_03: Yep.
16:59
SPEAKER_03: Um, so again, like we did, we we we talked a lot about this channel.
17:02
SPEAKER_03: We discussed in great detail, AJ, about the starting lineup on this channel during the offseason.
17:07
SPEAKER_03: Uh, who's gonna start uh was a common question that happened repeatedly, and depending on all the changes that happened this year.
17:13
SPEAKER_03: First, it was the draft when we got DP, and then when when we signed and traded Walker Kessler, that threw another one of it, and we still have some unanswered questions there between what's gonna happen on whether or not Ace Bailey starts or not, right?
17:25
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
17:26
SPEAKER_03: Uh, but one of the things we knew for sure, AJ, is that DP and Key were going to be in the starting lineup.
17:31
SPEAKER_03: That's one thing that we both agreed on, and I believe most of uh the the viewers of this channel would agree.
17:37
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, the question marks are all in that three, four, five, not so much in that one, too.
17:41
SPEAKER_03: Exactly.
17:42
SPEAKER_03: And um, we already did a video on on what how they're gonna potentially become the best back uh backcourt for the Utah Jazz in jazz history.
17:50
SPEAKER_03: But on this episode, man, again, we want to talk about what we're gonna see early on to see how well they play together.
17:55
SPEAKER_03: And for us, the key stat there, AJ, punning tended, on how well this team is playing together is we're gonna talk about assists, AJ.
18:05
SPEAKER_03: Absolutely, yeah.
18:06
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I think this these these two guys are so special.
18:09
SPEAKER_01: And and I think, you know, to to bounce off of assists for just a second, I really do want to say that I think that defensively these two could help a lot more than we're really giving them credit for.
18:18
SPEAKER_01: Um, and I think that the incentives in Key's contract are kind of one of those things that show that this team could be really effective defensively.
18:25
SPEAKER_01: Um, but to go back on to assists, I really think that if we can get these guys where they're averaging five or so assists each between the two of them to start this season, I think we'll be in a really, really good position.
18:38
SPEAKER_01: Um we will have some shooters out on the floor.
18:41
SPEAKER_01: I mean, depending on no matter what what the combination ends up being in that three, four, five spot, we have guys that can really knock down shots.
18:48
SPEAKER_01: And I and I know that you know, key averaged six last year with with some players that didn't shoot the ball well.
18:53
SPEAKER_01: So that that's a good sign from him.
18:55
SPEAKER_01: But some of that is volume, right?
18:57
SPEAKER_01: He was the main distributor on the floor.
18:59
SPEAKER_01: And and while he was out there, um I think that he will have while he's out there, I think he'll have less touches with DP, right?
19:08
SPEAKER_01: Because he's gonna be playing off the ball at some point.
19:10
SPEAKER_01: You're you're not always gonna have Key taking the ball up the floor, these two are gonna alternate.
19:13
SPEAKER_01: But it also gives a few more upper assist uh opportunities for assists for for DP having Key out there, right?
19:20
SPEAKER_01: Because Keontae has always moved well without the ball um and he's become a a pretty a pretty serviceable catch-and-shoot player.
19:27
SPEAKER_01: So this duo is gonna demand a ton of a ton of defensive defensive defensive attention.
19:33
SPEAKER_01: And I think it's gonna force defenses to really make some early decisions on who they're gonna be guarding and how they're going to you know attack these two players.
19:42
SPEAKER_01: And you can't send doubles at these guys because you've still got Laurie Markinen out there, you've still got Ace Bailey, you've still got Triple J.
19:48
SPEAKER_01: So generating open shots is going to help drive these assist numbers up.
19:52
SPEAKER_01: And if we can get these assist numbers to that five range, um, you know, as long as we can keep, you know, obviously they're gonna be knocking him down if they're getting assists, but it's gonna tell the story of how successful this team is really early on.
20:03
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I'm gonna have to agree with you on that one.
20:04
SPEAKER_03: And again, why we set that number at five is simply because that's right around what Keonta was doing last year with a G League lineup uh when he was running the point.
20:14
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, he was around six.
20:15
SPEAKER_03: And I think just with the increase of better talent and better ball distribution to where either one of those two can make their own shot.
20:23
SPEAKER_03: And I think DP proved in the summer league that he's more than willing to pass and and get a couple assists himself when also he knows he can pass to somebody who's at least gonna even be better, at least a G League player.
20:35
SPEAKER_03: Absolutely, yeah.
20:36
SPEAKER_03: Some of those summer invitees weren't exactly on that level either.
20:39
SPEAKER_01: And that's exactly the point is like you're gonna have NBA talent all around you.
20:42
SPEAKER_01: This is gonna be the best combination of five players we've seen on on for the Jazz on the court in four years.
20:47
SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
20:48
SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
20:49
SPEAKER_01: And then you're gonna continue to, you know, could you kind of re-better than the team that had the best record in the NBA?
20:55
SPEAKER_01: Just based off the town.
20:57
SPEAKER_01: Maybe it's four years.
20:58
SPEAKER_01: We we we lost for four years.
20:59
SPEAKER_01: I don't, I don't, they're not better than that 21-22 team.
21:03
SPEAKER_01: You don't think?
21:04
SPEAKER_01: I don't think so.
21:05
SPEAKER_01: I definitely think Bogey and Mike Conley, Donovan Mitchell, I mean Joe Ingalls was out there, Rudy Gobert.
21:12
SPEAKER_01: Like, ah, I don't, I don't know.
21:14
SPEAKER_01: That's I'd say especially because those little guys were in their primes.
21:17
SPEAKER_03: I would argue, I would argue before the end of Keontae's contract, this starting five, if we keep the core together, would be better than that one.
21:24
SPEAKER_01: I can I would actually agree with that.
21:25
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
21:26
SPEAKER_01: Yes, yes, I do.
21:26
SPEAKER_03: I think boring boring to talk when we both agree with each other.
21:29
SPEAKER_01: I but I think this team has this team has more potential than those five players ever did.
21:34
SPEAKER_03: Agreed.
21:34
SPEAKER_03: I definitely agree with you on that one.
21:35
SPEAKER_03: And I hope that that that there's no like off the court issues where someone touches a bunch of mics and causes uh one to get sick and then they just don't pass to each other anymore.
21:44
SPEAKER_03: Let's hope that doesn't happen.
21:45
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you're like, I'm not gonna throw you a lob, I'm gonna shoot it myself.
21:48
SPEAKER_01: Let's just hope they're professionals.
21:51
SPEAKER_04: Anyways.
21:52
SPEAKER_04: Anyway.
21:54
SPEAKER_03: We want to hear from you folks.
21:55
SPEAKER_03: Let's know uh what your thoughts are in the comments down below.
21:57
SPEAKER_03: Thanks for lingering with that one, on me, man.
21:59
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you were right.
22:00
SPEAKER_03: There, you were right there.
22:01
SPEAKER_03: You knew what I was doing.
22:02
SPEAKER_03: Love it.
22:02
SPEAKER_03: We're like this on this show now.
22:03
SPEAKER_03: We're getting we're getting there, guys.
22:05
SPEAKER_03: Not a professional operation, but we're getting there.
22:07
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
22:07
SPEAKER_03: Um, all right.
22:08
SPEAKER_03: So we actually um every week we like to kind of hit on one subject that we see in the press, right?
22:13
SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah.
22:13
SPEAKER_03: Um, so I believe uh you got this one, why don't you go ahead?
22:16
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, absolutely.
22:16
SPEAKER_01: So there was a pretty interesting article on SI.
22:19
SPEAKER_01: Um, and it was three potential reunions for the jazz.
22:22
SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, kind of who the jazz should look to fill that 15th Rosh or spot with.
22:26
SPEAKER_01: And uh the the three people that this article lists are Ochai Akbaji, um Kelly Olenek, and last but not least, Mr.
22:32
SPEAKER_01: Kevin Love.
22:33
SPEAKER_01: So each of these players, they kind of bring something really different to this jazz roster that feels all the things that they bring kind of feels like we've already got you know players in those positions to fill those holes.
22:44
SPEAKER_01: So it's kind of funny.
22:45
SPEAKER_01: You know, Akbadji specifically to bring another 3D player seems absolutely like madness to me.
22:52
SPEAKER_01: I mean, we went out of our way to go find two 3nd players and sign both of them that are comparable sizes to Agbaji.
22:59
SPEAKER_01: So I don't see that one happening, but the other two kind of bring a veteran presence that you need in a young locker room.
23:05
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
23:06
SPEAKER_01: What are your thoughts?
23:07
SPEAKER_03: Well, I think the obvious one here is going to be Kelly O'Linick.
23:10
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
23:10
SPEAKER_03: I mean, we already did the video on love.
23:11
SPEAKER_03: We'd love to have him back.
23:12
SPEAKER_03: I would not be mad if he's the one who takes the last spot.
23:14
SPEAKER_03: Not at all.
23:15
SPEAKER_03: Not mad at that at all.
23:16
SPEAKER_03: Uh, but the clear choice here is Kelly Olinick.
23:18
SPEAKER_03: I mean, he has optionality, which is one of my favorite words in sports.
23:22
SPEAKER_03: Uh, he can play either the center position on a small ball lineup, or he can play at the forward, either forward position, whether it be power forward on a smaller lineup or uh small forward on a bigger lineup, right?
23:32
SPEAKER_03: Um he's got good size at 6'11.
23:35
SPEAKER_03: He has a uh high defensive IQ, which again has been the theme for this team this offseason.
23:40
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's the question that everybody's asking is how is this team gonna perform defensively?
23:44
SPEAKER_03: We're incentivizing our contracts to have defense.
23:48
SPEAKER_03: We brought in Green.
23:49
SPEAKER_03: We've again triple J.
23:50
SPEAKER_03: We're trying to optimize him defensively.
23:53
SPEAKER_03: Uh it's definitely something been the writing's been on the wall on all the offseason moves that this team has been making, is that defense matters, right?
24:00
SPEAKER_03: You know, so again, he's got a good size, uh good potential size at 6'11.
24:05
SPEAKER_03: He's great at anticipating the passing lanes and has a solid uh deflection deflection rating uh and is uh you know above average when it comes to defensive rankings on a team defensive team.
24:20
SPEAKER_03: Uh last year was kind of bad for him with the Spurs, but overall he's typically a plus defender.
24:25
SPEAKER_03: So uh he would definitely be the best option, in my opinion.
24:28
SPEAKER_01: Uh I agree.
24:29
SPEAKER_01: I I think I like Olenek the best.
24:30
SPEAKER_01: Like you mentioned, great passer.
24:32
SPEAKER_01: I really like his rebounding numbers.
24:35
SPEAKER_01: Um, he's he's always been a pretty solid rebounding player.
24:38
SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, some of the concerns we've had on this show multiple times is how are we going to rebound the ball after you lose Walker Kessler?
24:44
SPEAKER_01: You wonder who's gonna gobble up 10 more rebounds.
24:47
SPEAKER_01: Um we did have some good games where you know Nurk had obviously 10 rebounds, but this isn't that same team, right?
24:55
SPEAKER_01: And and you're not going to have like Nurk was doing that in lineups that nobody else was rebounding, he was the only one doing it.
25:02
SPEAKER_01: So ideally, we don't have that scenario, but you you know, you wonder where you're gonna get some help.
25:07
SPEAKER_01: Um I I like Olinic because he's one of those players you can run the offense through.
25:12
SPEAKER_01: Yes, yes, you know what I mean.
25:13
SPEAKER_01: Like he he does have such great vision, and Nurk is very similar to that because you Nurk can take the ball at the top of the key and he makes some great backdoor passes.
25:20
SPEAKER_01: They are very similar players, very similar size.
25:23
SPEAKER_01: Um I like having a backup to that backup, essentially.
25:28
SPEAKER_01: Uh, I I love Kevin Love, and and again, wouldn't be upset at all if we took Kevin Love again.
25:33
SPEAKER_01: I I think he's got the right attitude.
25:35
SPEAKER_01: I think Kevin Love would probably ask for less minutes.
25:38
SPEAKER_01: I do worry if you take Kelly Olenek, um you probably feel a little more obligated to get him into the lineup.
25:44
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
25:45
SPEAKER_01: Because he is still, I mean, he's what, 34, 35 years old?
25:48
SPEAKER_01: I don't think he he's not nearly as old as Kevin Love is.
25:51
SPEAKER_01: No.
25:51
SPEAKER_01: I mean, Kevin Love's like, you know, 58 or something like that.
25:54
SPEAKER_01: Pretty close.
25:55
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so he's got the ARP sticker in his window for sure.
25:58
SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
25:59
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I think you're spot on there because when you talked about being able to run the offense through him, there were times when he was last with his team where we had both of our guards out for injury and he had to run the point.
26:10
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
26:11
SPEAKER_03: And we had to run, he had to facilitate the offense.
26:13
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, maybe not take the ball up the floor, but absolutely.
26:15
SPEAKER_01: You get the ball up the floor and and the ball goes into Kelly's hands, and he's the one that's making a decision on where the ball goes next.
26:20
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, he's running the pick and roll at the top and he's having to make those decisions.
26:23
SPEAKER_03: Again, high IQ for a basket, you know, a basketball player, you know, for Canada.
26:27
SPEAKER_03: Just kidding.
26:27
SPEAKER_03: Love you, Canada.
26:28
SPEAKER_03: Canadia.
26:29
SPEAKER_03: Canadia.
26:30
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
26:30
SPEAKER_03: Um, but yeah, I just think it out of those three, that'd be the one I'd choose.
26:34
SPEAKER_03: Let us know what your thoughts are in the comments down below.
26:36
SPEAKER_03: Um, out of those three, who would you prefer?
26:39
SPEAKER_03: Are you on board with us?
26:40
SPEAKER_03: Do you think we're missing it with uh uh Obaji not being the pick there?
26:44
SPEAKER_03: Um, I think I'm right with you there on that.
26:46
SPEAKER_03: AJ, I think we've got that spot covered.
26:48
SPEAKER_01: About three times.
26:49
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, exactly.
26:50
SPEAKER_03: You know, it's just it's the old saying, man.
26:52
SPEAKER_03: If you were to ask me specifically, I would say none of them.
26:55
SPEAKER_03: I mean, you just don't you just don't microwave McDonald's fries, right?
26:58
SPEAKER_03: You don't go back to your ex.
26:59
SPEAKER_03: You just it just it's just not the same, right?
27:01
SPEAKER_03: So it's uh, in my opinion, that's the best way to go.
27:04
SPEAKER_03: But if you are gonna pick one of these three, I would definitely go with O Linux.
27:07
SPEAKER_03: I think he would definitely provide a lot of value.
27:10
SPEAKER_01: There's some disagreement in the comments already.
27:11
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I love it, dude.
27:12
SPEAKER_03: Let's get into it.
27:13
SPEAKER_03: Uh, we got a comment here from uh Shane.
27:16
SPEAKER_03: He says uh Collier just seems sees the floor differently.
27:18
SPEAKER_03: He can get downhill, draw defenders, and constantly finds guys for easy buckets.
27:23
SPEAKER_01: Absolutely right.
27:24
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and I'm gonna love to see what they do with him uh on the points with this deep of a bench, right?
27:30
SPEAKER_01: So there's no G League players are gonna be up here, you know, it's gonna be I mean I think it'll be I think this this season will be really good for Collier because having NBA talent around you helps keep the space, right?
27:42
SPEAKER_03: I think it really helps him defensively.
27:44
SPEAKER_03: Like the defensive load is kind of taken off him.
27:46
SPEAKER_03: He can handle himself defensively with his bodying up.
27:48
SPEAKER_03: Like he's definitely can put a body on these guys, but I think having all the length around him is gonna be huge.
27:54
SPEAKER_01: But I think offensively it helps him a ton too, because he does like just run downhill so hard, you can't collapse on him.
28:01
SPEAKER_01: And and he's he's big enough that you know what I mean.
28:05
SPEAKER_01: He can he he can play through contact really well.
28:08
SPEAKER_01: You can't collapse a second defender on him because he's he he his vision is that good.
28:12
SPEAKER_01: He will find the open guy.
28:13
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and as long as the jazz can make you pay for it, now you've either got to play him one-on-one or you've got to collapse and hope that you can recover to an open three-point shooter somewhere.
28:23
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I think the worst three-point shooter that he's gonna be on the team with is either gonna be Speed Mikhailuke or Spee's a career 38% shooter.
28:31
SPEAKER_01: Or flip.
28:32
SPEAKER_03: Flip's horrible, but I mean he's gonna be, I think he's gonna have a good year from the three.
28:37
SPEAKER_01: But I think Isaiah see, I think Isaiah sees a lot of minutes with the a lot of the starting lineup.
28:40
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's true.
28:41
SPEAKER_03: But I'm saying, like, worst case scenario, we're just gonna see you know, so I don't know.
28:44
SPEAKER_03: I I honestly think he's uh uh Flip's gonna have a much better second year than he did the first year.
28:49
SPEAKER_03: So um hot take.
28:50
SPEAKER_03: Um probably not, but anyway.
28:52
SPEAKER_01: That's that's a that's a future subject right there.
28:55
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, exactly.
28:56
SPEAKER_03: Throw that sucker in there uh if we can be bothered.
28:59
SPEAKER_03: Um one of these days we're gonna show you how this set looks from this side, and you're gonna see what we're talking about, whenever we point and stuff.
29:05
SPEAKER_01: It's kind of funny.
29:06
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's fun.
29:07
SPEAKER_03: Uh, got another comment here from McKinley.
29:08
SPEAKER_03: He says, I'd lean toward Kevin Love if available.
29:11
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
29:11
SPEAKER_01: Hey, we love Kevin Love.
29:13
SPEAKER_03: Love it.
29:13
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we're not we're not upset about that.
29:14
SPEAKER_03: Just a little bit more, McKinley.
29:15
SPEAKER_03: Let us know a little bit more on that one.
29:16
SPEAKER_03: Like, where are you coming from on that?
29:18
SPEAKER_01: It was a very short comment for you, McKinley.
29:20
SPEAKER_03: I know, I'm just saying, you know, yeah.
29:21
SPEAKER_03: Maybe he had to sneeze or something.
29:22
SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
29:23
SPEAKER_03: Uh, we got uh Olinek has a negative wingspan.
29:26
SPEAKER_03: Sorry, he's a liability, bro.
29:28
SPEAKER_03: Okay, fair enough.
29:29
SPEAKER_03: You know, like I agree with you there, but keep in mind that he's gonna be on a team that's got a lot of length and a lot of size.
29:35
SPEAKER_01: And and also, I don't, you're not leaning on a Linux for his defensive presence.
29:40
SPEAKER_01: And that's mostly when you're gonna use a negative wingspan.
29:42
SPEAKER_01: Uh, I think, especially if you put him out on the floor with someone like Triple J, who has a positive wingspan and is a great help defender.
29:48
SPEAKER_01: Alinek can stay straight up enough.
29:50
SPEAKER_01: You know, he's he's good at guarding vertically and making players have to go around him to shoot, and that's where you lie on you rely on Triple J to come over and you know send their shot into the third row.
30:01
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and again, this is this is the 14th member of the bench, right?
30:04
SPEAKER_03: This is not we're not talking about a guy who's gonna get 25 minutes a game.
30:07
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he but and and again, that is some of my concern with Olinic, is he's going to want 20 plus minutes a game, and I could see him not signing for you signing with Utah for that reason.
30:16
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I just think he's gonna be competing with um Speed McKay Luke or something for some minutes on the court.
30:21
SPEAKER_03: I don't see him like I think he's gonna be more of the yeah, tail end of the bench.
30:25
SPEAKER_01: I I'm just not sure if that's the role he's looking for at this point in this room.
30:28
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but I don't think Kevin Love is either.
30:29
SPEAKER_03: I think he still wants to compete.
30:31
SPEAKER_01: I I think but I think Love was okay more with it.
30:34
SPEAKER_01: It's still okay more with it.
30:36
SPEAKER_01: Oh, I'm sure.
30:36
SPEAKER_03: I'm sure he actually turned around.
30:38
SPEAKER_03: I I was we we did a whole video on it like why the heck is Kevin Love still on this roster?
30:41
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we thought he was short for this one, which was interesting.
30:44
SPEAKER_03: So uh, but yeah, dude, we're we're perfectly okay with that, Jay.
30:47
SPEAKER_03: You know, we love it, we love it.
30:49
SPEAKER_03: Give us that if we want to hear it.
30:50
SPEAKER_03: Um, I love love love.
30:52
SPEAKER_03: I love love, but his defense is atrocious right now with triple J, it'll be a problem.
30:59
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and again, what we're we're not saying like this is for the 14th member of the bench, right?
31:04
SPEAKER_03: Like, we're not really gonna be too concerned about it.
31:07
SPEAKER_03: I like his defensive IQ, I like his ability to run a team defense and be able to, you know, shout out, hey, you know, over there on the top of the corner, back in the key, like, hey, cover cover five, you know.
31:18
SPEAKER_03: Like I love that his ability to do that kind of thing.
31:20
SPEAKER_03: Like, that's where he's gonna be useful.
31:22
SPEAKER_03: Not necessarily, I mean he's 6'11, negative win span, sure, but 6'11 is still enough of a body to get in front of somebody.
31:29
SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah, you know, so I don't know.
31:30
SPEAKER_03: I just think out of the three, that's kind of where I'm leaning.
31:32
SPEAKER_03: Um, your ex is McDonald's.
31:35
SPEAKER_03: What did it say?
31:35
SPEAKER_03: LOL, your ex is McDonald's fries.
31:38
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's just, you know.
31:39
SPEAKER_03: It's a good point.
31:40
SPEAKER_03: You know, I just tell me anybody who's ever microwaved McDonald's fries.
31:43
SPEAKER_03: Like you never go back to your ex.
31:44
SPEAKER_03: It's just one of those things where you don't want to revisit a bat, you know, never it's never as good the second time, you know.
31:50
SPEAKER_03: So it's just a thing.
31:51
SPEAKER_01: It's just a different experience altogether.
31:54
SPEAKER_03: Um, I don't like I don't think McKinley, I don't think a Linux is someone that is an amazing vet presence.
32:01
SPEAKER_03: Okay, interesting.
32:02
SPEAKER_03: Interesting.
32:03
SPEAKER_03: Um, I would say uh the reason why I think he is why I think he's got a good vet presence is his um when he's on the Canadian team.
32:11
SPEAKER_03: He definitely has that very much leader on the floor, even though you got Schroeder and some other players that are on that team.
32:16
SPEAKER_03: He's kind of been more of the captain of that squad whenever we see those together.
32:20
SPEAKER_03: So that's kind of what I was thinking.
32:21
SPEAKER_01: Um I'm pretty sure Schroeder plays for Germany, but I know what you're saying.
32:25
SPEAKER_03: Who is I think of?
32:25
SPEAKER_03: Not Schroeder, not Schroeder.
32:27
SPEAKER_01: I mean Andrew Wiggins is on it.
32:29
SPEAKER_03: Not Wiggins.
32:30
SPEAKER_03: Um, not Schroeder.
32:33
SPEAKER_03: Who am I thinking of?
32:34
SPEAKER_03: But dang it.
32:35
SPEAKER_03: You're right, he does play for Germany.
32:37
SPEAKER_03: Um but I got what you're saying.
32:39
SPEAKER_03: Come out here, guys.
32:40
SPEAKER_03: Who played for Canada?
32:41
SPEAKER_01: I do, I do agree though.
32:42
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I think I think you absolutely nailed it though.
32:44
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I think he does, he does just he has that presence.
32:47
SPEAKER_01: I I I think that's that's kind of what I saw too.
32:50
SPEAKER_01: I mean, because he did play for some bad jazz teams as well.
32:52
SPEAKER_03: So yeah, yeah.
32:53
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32:54
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32:54
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32:56
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33:02
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33:06
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33:06
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33:07
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33:13
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33:14
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33:15
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33:20
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33:21
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33:22
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33:24
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33:25
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35:46
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35:54
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35:55
SPEAKER_03: So let's go ahead and get into it.
35:56
SPEAKER_03: Let's talk a little bit about uh the Utes, man.
35:59
SPEAKER_03: Um let's see here.
36:00
SPEAKER_03: We're gonna first talk about um let's let's go ahead and break down uh Utah versus Utah State, shall we?
36:06
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, absolutely.
36:07
SPEAKER_01: I I think this was a really, really fun game to watch.
36:10
SPEAKER_01: Um we saw some really nice defensive plays for Utah.
36:13
SPEAKER_01: Um and versus a Utah State team that even though they didn't score, they just kind of kept fighting, man.
36:19
SPEAKER_01: And it was it was really good to see Utah State, they really they put together nice drives on offense and then turned the ball over.
36:26
SPEAKER_01: As a Utah fan, you can't beat a shutout, right?
36:28
SPEAKER_01: And and the run defense actually looked really good.
36:30
SPEAKER_01: They did a good job in the red zone.
36:32
SPEAKER_01: And and I think that one of the players that kind of stuck out to me the most probably Rabbit Evans.
36:37
SPEAKER_01: Um he played really well, just kind of kept shutting down Utah State receivers.
36:41
SPEAKER_01: Uh the defensive line, I feel like had a really good push and and really kind of helped the keep the Utah State offense um kind of off balance the whole game.
36:50
SPEAKER_01: Um offensively, I really liked what I saw from the offensive line.
36:53
SPEAKER_01: Uh they did a they did a good job getting a push when needed in the run.
36:56
SPEAKER_01: Um, they held the pass block really well.
36:59
SPEAKER_01: Um, and that that Utah defense, that Utah State defense was was solid, man.
37:03
SPEAKER_01: They they played really well against Washington a couple of weeks ago and um really gave them everything they could handle in a 16-14 loss.
37:09
SPEAKER_01: So um yeah, we had we saw some really good stuff on both sides of the ball for Utah and and really was probably more impressed than I I think most people would kind of give credit to Utah State for.
37:21
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I mean I got some I got a few things to say about Utah State on this one.
37:28
SPEAKER_03: I'm ready.
37:28
SPEAKER_03: Because I definitely want to get into that.
37:30
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, uh, but you're absolutely right.
37:31
SPEAKER_03: It was a great game to it was a great game to watch.
37:34
SPEAKER_03: Um, you know, uh Utah had this one well in hand even before the coin flip, so that was pretty much uh said and done deal.
37:41
SPEAKER_03: But there were a few things uh that I questioned, especially on Bronco Mendonhal's decisions.
37:46
SPEAKER_03: Um there were a few times in this game, at least AJ, that I thought that he could do something to get some points on the board, like a field goal that he didn't go for.
37:54
SPEAKER_03: He tried to go for it on fourth down and and screwed it up and didn't get in there.
37:57
SPEAKER_03: Um, there are a few other ones there uh again where he had a chance to, you know, just not get goose egged.
38:04
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
38:05
SPEAKER_03: Right, and just didn't take the opportunity.
38:07
SPEAKER_03: Um, again, my thoughts on Broken.
38:09
SPEAKER_03: Bronco Menonh and this channel have been well documented.
38:12
SPEAKER_03: Um, but yeah, I mean, Skelly, on the other hand, um, you know, went for two when he was already up by 13, right?
38:19
SPEAKER_03: So just tell it to taste, man.
38:21
SPEAKER_03: One person was like, hey, we're gonna put the throat on you, we're gonna step on your throat.
38:24
SPEAKER_03: And the other one was like, hey, you know, we're just gonna we're gonna not go for it.
38:29
SPEAKER_03: We're gonna try, you know, we're not gonna put points on the board.
38:31
SPEAKER_03: And the other one's like, we're gonna put as many points on the board as possible.
38:34
SPEAKER_03: Um, so that's one thing.
38:36
SPEAKER_03: Now, um, I was kind enough to get to go to this game because I have a very generous friend who donated some really awesome seats to me and and my old man to get to go and watch this game.
38:46
SPEAKER_03: Uh, so I had a great, great view of this game, by the way.
38:50
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
38:51
SPEAKER_03: Uh so super generous friend.
38:53
SPEAKER_03: Um, you know, good looking dude.
38:55
SPEAKER_03: Good looking dude.
38:56
SPEAKER_03: Grills a mean steak, makes some good carne soda.
39:00
SPEAKER_03: Um, nice guy.
39:01
SPEAKER_03: Um, anyway, awesome seats.
39:03
SPEAKER_03: So I got to watch this game from the sidelines, right?
39:05
SPEAKER_03: Practically.
39:06
SPEAKER_03: Um, literally two rows up from it.
39:07
SPEAKER_03: It was amazing.
39:08
SPEAKER_03: Um, some of the other points I wanted to make on this one, AJ, because I was seeing things is uh AJ, quick question.
39:14
SPEAKER_03: Who's the running back for this team?
39:16
SPEAKER_01: For the Uts?
39:17
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
39:17
SPEAKER_01: We Sean Parker.
39:18
SPEAKER_03: Okay, just I wanted to check.
39:20
SPEAKER_03: I wanted to check.
39:20
SPEAKER_03: And that's something I had to check on my phone while I was watching the game there.
39:23
SPEAKER_03: Uh, because I was watching this first quarter, AJ, and and uh Weyshawn ran the ball once.
39:28
SPEAKER_03: Uh both of our quarterbacks uh ran the ball before RB1 even had a chance to touch the ball.
39:34
SPEAKER_04: Oh yeah.
39:35
SPEAKER_03: Um, I know that's part of Devin's game, right?
39:37
SPEAKER_03: When it probably breaks down, he can run with it, and that's why we absolutely love it.
39:40
SPEAKER_03: And there's a lot of that trick stuff that we're doing between having both of our quarterbacks up there.
39:44
SPEAKER_03: Still don't like it, still think we're playing with fire there when it comes to Utes.
39:48
SPEAKER_03: You know, we need a season of our quarterbacks not getting injured before we start messing around with that kind of stuff, before we, you know, break the mold there.
39:56
SPEAKER_03: Um, but let's not risk QB1 and QB two by having them run the ball all four first quarter before Wei Sean even touches, gets to carry the ball, right?
40:06
SPEAKER_03: He did ended up having 10 carries, right?
40:08
SPEAKER_03: Um, guess what?
40:09
SPEAKER_03: So did uh Dampier.
40:11
SPEAKER_03: He had 10 carries as well.
40:13
SPEAKER_03: Bert Flickin got five, but he got two carries before Weishan even got to see the ball.
40:18
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, our backup QB got to see it before carry before QB1 got to run the ball.
40:23
SPEAKER_03: I know I've said it all a few times on the show.
40:26
SPEAKER_03: I do not like the fact that we're risking them that much.
40:29
SPEAKER_03: You know, when we've got Weyshawn, Mr.
40:31
SPEAKER_03: 1200 yards, he wants it and he wants to get it.
40:34
SPEAKER_03: Let's let him play, man.
40:35
SPEAKER_03: Utah State had no answer for him.
40:38
SPEAKER_03: You know, I just didn't see I didn't see the need to do that that early.
40:43
SPEAKER_01: I I agree with what you're saying.
40:45
SPEAKER_01: Um, I think that you could hand the ball to Wei Sean more, but I think the big thing is is I think that Utah is purposefully doing all of these things.
40:54
SPEAKER_01: Oh, I know they are.
40:55
SPEAKER_01: They they are showing a thousand different formations.
40:59
SPEAKER_01: Like if you're watching tape on this team, you never know who's getting the ball.
41:03
SPEAKER_01: Right.
41:04
SPEAKER_01: I mean we talked about that last year.
41:06
SPEAKER_01: They fake handoffs to Bird Ficklin, they fake handoffs to uh Brandon Pegan coming off the wide receiver.
41:12
SPEAKER_01: Like they are just continuing to utilize different players in different positions.
41:17
SPEAKER_01: I love the scheme.
41:19
SPEAKER_01: I don't mind Wei Sean not getting the ball as long as we are continuing to move the ball up the field.
41:26
SPEAKER_01: Because at the end of the day, the only thing that matters is production.
41:29
SPEAKER_01: Score points, get the ball up the field.
41:31
SPEAKER_01: We shouldn't Parker has said it many times in the media.
41:34
SPEAKER_01: I don't care how we get offense as long as we get offense.
41:38
SPEAKER_01: He's out there, and if his job is to run block on a pass or on a play, he's gonna go out there and run block.
41:43
SPEAKER_01: If his job is to pass block, while Devin Dambeer throws it to the field, he's gonna go out there and pass block.
41:47
SPEAKER_01: Weishon doesn't care.
41:48
SPEAKER_01: He's gonna get all purpose yards, he catches the ball on the backfield a lot.
41:51
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I love this offense because it is so dynamic and you just never know where the ball's going.
41:56
SPEAKER_03: I can't remember.
41:56
SPEAKER_03: I can't remember if it was uh if it was a long ball or a short route, but Weyshawn Parker caught the ball on a pass.
42:03
SPEAKER_03: All the time.
42:03
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, wait a minute.
42:04
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, he can't.
42:05
SPEAKER_03: I turned on my moment.
42:05
SPEAKER_03: I'm like, wait a minute, who's the running back on this team?
42:07
SPEAKER_03: I know I've already asked this once, but who the heck is the running back on this team?
42:11
SPEAKER_03: I absolutely loved it.
42:11
SPEAKER_03: I thought it was great.
42:12
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
42:13
SPEAKER_03: Um, but again, that was something that kind of bothered me.
42:15
SPEAKER_03: All right.
42:15
SPEAKER_03: Let's like if we're gonna do that, then like I I can understand why we're doing what we're doing, but this is Utah State, man.
42:21
SPEAKER_03: We don't want to go too off book, right?
42:23
SPEAKER_03: We did shut them out, right?
42:24
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so I'm kind of like, okay, let's let's kind of roll that back.
42:28
SPEAKER_03: Um, second thing, AJ, I wanted I wanted to say after from my great view from my beautiful seats from my generous friend there that uh gave you tickets to this lovely game.
42:38
SPEAKER_03: Awesome dude.
42:39
SPEAKER_01: Awesome dude.
42:40
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, looks good in red, just saying.
42:42
SPEAKER_03: Um second thing I wanted to say on this one is I they seem to be playing backwards a lot in the beginning of this game.
42:48
SPEAKER_03: And what I mean by playing backwards is they're running it on first and second down, right?
42:51
SPEAKER_03: Quarterback running running play for the first down, and then all of a sudden, uh, you know, and then another run for Bert Flickin, who's playing some type of option out there.
42:59
SPEAKER_03: But on third down, again, I can't really put on my finger on it, but that's when they kept throwing the ball for long yardages was on third down.
43:07
SPEAKER_03: And that kind of seemed backwards to me a little bit.
43:09
SPEAKER_03: Normally, you know, you kind of go for the play, you kind of go for like the some yardage there.
43:14
SPEAKER_03: It just kind of seemed a little bit like they were playing backwards, and I couldn't put my finger on what was going on there.
43:19
SPEAKER_03: I mean, you said it first, Utah State was definitely putting definitely a good offense and and and made Arizona work for it, right?
43:26
SPEAKER_03: Or Washington State.
43:27
SPEAKER_03: Washington.
43:28
SPEAKER_03: Washington, not Washington State, Washington.
43:30
SPEAKER_03: But then there was somebody behind me who nailed it, who said something.
43:33
SPEAKER_03: And he said that the offensive line was not impressing him in this game.
43:37
SPEAKER_03: And it took me a while before I realized it, and I started watching the game a little bit closer on the plays on the review board, and there was just a lot of missed assignments on this one where the offensive line was just letting people go.
43:48
SPEAKER_03: And I think that to me was triggering a lot of those Devin Dampier reads where he's just running the ball.
43:53
SPEAKER_03: Like there was a lot of times, and give Utah State credit maybe this their defense was that good, maybe that defensive line was just that good, or maybe it's just Simply, Utah wasn't taking them that seriously because there was a lot of missed assignments that I started noticing on that where they just let they just let the secondary kind of just go right by them.
44:09
SPEAKER_03: And I was kind of like, that's not somebody you can need to leave.
44:12
SPEAKER_03: Like, that's not a play that you want to leave there.
44:14
SPEAKER_03: You know, they'll they'll focus on on uh one assignment and then they'll just let this one walk right by.
44:19
SPEAKER_03: You know, it just kind of there was a lot of that going on against Utah State.
44:22
SPEAKER_03: And I thought, you know, and then when he said that in the behind me, I'm like, okay, to me that looked a little weird.
44:26
SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
44:27
SPEAKER_03: What are your thoughts?
44:28
SPEAKER_01: Uh I think that the offensive line did a good job picking up assignments.
44:34
SPEAKER_01: Um, I think some of the some of the letting people buy is by design.
44:37
SPEAKER_01: I mean, because they did run a lot of screenplays um out to the flats, I think they did run some stuff where they're they're looking for okay Weyshawn Parker to come out of the backfield and into the flat.
44:47
SPEAKER_01: Um because because what Utah State was doing is they were parking a linebacker um waiting for Dampier to run it.
44:54
SPEAKER_01: So what they were they were just sitting, they were just sitting on it.
44:57
SPEAKER_01: And as soon as you send Weyshawn into the flat, it forces that linebacker to pick him up.
45:00
SPEAKER_01: Right.
45:01
SPEAKER_01: So now if now if Dampier wants to run it, he's got a wide open running lane.
45:05
SPEAKER_03: Okay, so the some of that was talked about a little bit on uh the coach's show with um on ESPN 700 with um gosh, he was like the radio voice for them.
45:14
SPEAKER_03: He still does the games and he used to work for ESPN 700, now he works for the Utes only.
45:18
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
45:18
SPEAKER_03: Um anyway, he uh uh head coach uh Morgan Scaly said something about that.
45:25
SPEAKER_03: How some of these some of these um plays where they were is by design.
45:31
SPEAKER_03: Billy can you kind of Bill Riley, thank you.
45:33
SPEAKER_03: Thank you.
45:34
SPEAKER_03: Not Bill O'Reilly, Bill Riley.
45:35
SPEAKER_01: Bill Riley, thank you.
45:36
SPEAKER_03: Completely different guy.
45:38
SPEAKER_01: Completely different.
45:39
SPEAKER_03: If you know, you know.
45:40
SPEAKER_03: Um so kind of go into that a little bit more for me on on that design where again they let they kind of not necessarily it's not a miss, but it's more of a kind of a design play where they let kind of some of the defense get through.
45:52
SPEAKER_01: I mean, as an as an offensive lineman, your whole plan is literally just to bump the defensive player, make him think that you're blocking, and then you're moving downfield to try to pick up a linebacker or a secondary player, right?
46:03
SPEAKER_01: So you're you're all you're doing is you're cut you're standing up bumping, holding for two seconds, and then you're releasing and you're moving downfield.
46:09
SPEAKER_01: And that allows Weyshawn Parker to get out into a flat or Devin Dampier to move, and then you've got blockers moving ahead of you.
46:15
SPEAKER_01: Because if you're if you're in a straight pass play, the the offensive lineman can't move three yards past the line of scrimmage.
46:22
SPEAKER_01: So if you're but if you're in a run play or a run schemed play, they're allowed to move and and continue up the field.
46:29
SPEAKER_01: So okay.
46:29
SPEAKER_01: Now, is that something that's a lot uh they're just using a lot more this year?
46:33
SPEAKER_01: It's a completely different offensive scheme.
46:35
SPEAKER_01: I mean, Kevin Kevin McGivins put this stuff in there because again, you're you're just trying to get all of these players like you're you're giving these defenses hope that they're winning against this offensive line, and they're not winning because as they're getting past them, that's exactly what the youths want them to do.
46:48
SPEAKER_01: They want them to be behind where the ball, where the ball's actually going.
46:51
SPEAKER_03: Behind on the other side of the field where the ball's going, right?
46:54
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, exactly.
46:54
SPEAKER_01: Because Utah, Utah States, they're they're overpursuing is what they were doing.
46:58
SPEAKER_01: They're they're overpursuing the play.
47:00
SPEAKER_01: So I love it, dude.
47:02
SPEAKER_01: It's it's it it was it was fun.
47:04
SPEAKER_01: And yeah, I mean, after after I rewatched it, I was like, because I felt it kind of the same way, but I had to, you know, I was watching it on my phone when I watched the first time, and there was a soccer game on in front of me, so I didn't actually I wasn't super tuned in, it was like watching replays as things were happening.
47:19
SPEAKER_03: That's also another thing about this very kind gentleman who donated his seats to me.
47:22
SPEAKER_03: He also is a great father, too.
47:23
SPEAKER_03: Just wanted to put that on there.
47:25
SPEAKER_03: He's a great father, he's a great father as well.
47:27
SPEAKER_03: Just want to put that out there.
47:28
SPEAKER_03: I appreciate it.
47:29
SPEAKER_03: Um, anyway, in case you haven't figured out who I got it from, who I got those tickets from.
47:34
SPEAKER_03: Um, so okay, I'm I'm glad to see that because that was kind of one of the things I was just like, like, this is I didn't want to give Utah State that much credit because but while I'm watching, when you're watching it, you're just like, okay, that kind of looks like a blown assignment there.
47:44
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you know, from the defensive side.
47:46
SPEAKER_03: Again, you know, I'm not as versatile in college football as you are, so I just figured I would give you a chance to, you know, flex some of your knowledge.
47:54
SPEAKER_01: I'm not a genius, I just understand some of the concepts that are.
47:56
SPEAKER_01: I just love you.
47:57
SPEAKER_03: I just want to let you flex your knowledge, give you a chance to bring it up.
47:59
SPEAKER_03: I appreciate it.
47:59
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's that's the only reason I come here, is I just come here to flex my knowledge.
48:03
SPEAKER_03: There you go, and sip whiskey.
48:04
SPEAKER_03: That's what we do around here.
48:05
SPEAKER_01: Mostly drink, it's actually mostly to drink whiskey.
48:07
SPEAKER_03: You got Shane here.
48:08
SPEAKER_03: Channel is all about Utah football.
48:10
SPEAKER_03: Is BYU in the mix?
48:11
SPEAKER_03: Actually, uh, not this week, because they're on a bye week, but I actually uh we do try to avoid talking uh BYU just simply because it makes him cringe and kind of makes the little hairs on the back of his neck stand up.
48:21
SPEAKER_03: He's just not really.
48:22
SPEAKER_01: I can talk BYU football.
48:24
SPEAKER_03: We can talk about it.
48:25
SPEAKER_03: We definitely we've covered a few, we've done a few episodes on it.
48:27
SPEAKER_01: It's just one of the things where the But I am a diehard, true red Utah fan.
48:33
SPEAKER_01: So, but I do we just we do a sports podcast, so we have to be able to talk about all the things that are happening in the state of Utah.
48:39
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and we also run into a little bit about that.
48:41
SPEAKER_03: BYU just simply doesn't get a lot of views for us on this channel.
48:44
SPEAKER_01: It does not because it's labeled Utah Football DNA.
48:46
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but even that on our main channel, DNA Sports Recap, they still didn't get a whole lot of views compared to Utah football.
48:52
SPEAKER_01: And it's weird because BYU fans really enjoy like the locked-on Cougars and that kind of stuff.
48:57
SPEAKER_01: So we yeah, we were kind of we've got a little more traction than that.
49:02
SPEAKER_03: Oh, that guy got converted.
49:04
SPEAKER_03: That guy so bad.
49:05
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, interesting, dude.
49:06
SPEAKER_03: Interesting, do uh he's like, no BYU here.
49:09
SPEAKER_03: Actually, thanks, Greg.
49:10
SPEAKER_03: Appreciate it.
49:11
SPEAKER_03: There was one question on I want to ask the BYU fans in the audience here.
49:14
SPEAKER_03: Tell us a little bit about um how you feel about the bye week right before uh conference play.
49:18
SPEAKER_03: I don't know how I feel about that.
49:20
SPEAKER_03: If I was a BYU fan, I don't know how I'd feel about them, you know, kind of running through and then they go into Notre Dame.
49:28
SPEAKER_03: Notre Dame, not necessarily conference play, but they go into Notre Dame.
49:31
SPEAKER_03: I mean, do you want the week off for that or do you want to kind of because they're three and oh, do you want to keep rolling?
49:36
SPEAKER_01: I don't know if I ever want a bye week this early in the season.
49:39
SPEAKER_01: That's kind of where I'm thinking, like, especially after non-conference play.
49:42
SPEAKER_01: You're you're not you you shouldn't be that banged up.
49:44
SPEAKER_01: And they have played a conference game, right?
49:46
SPEAKER_01: They played Arizona, so fair enough.
49:48
SPEAKER_01: But I don't think BYU's battling any injuries right now, so I'm not sure why you take that choice.
49:54
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you don't choose when your bye week is, but I I definitely am not super happy about that before.
49:58
SPEAKER_01: I mean, maybe before the Notre Dame game, you know, you want to make sure you're at 100%, you know, host him at Lavelle Edwards.
50:04
SPEAKER_03: Like, yeah, one of the most important games of the year, especially.
50:06
SPEAKER_03: Uh like that will that will decide.
50:08
SPEAKER_03: I there's a lot of uh proponents out there that are saying that game decides whether or not you the Big 12 gets a at-large bid is that game.
50:16
SPEAKER_01: I hope Utah I hope BYU clovers Notre Dame.
50:19
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it'll be interesting.
50:20
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I'm looking forward to seeing it.
50:21
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because then when we beat him, it makes us look even better.
50:23
SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
50:24
SPEAKER_01: Anyways, keep going on the comments.
50:25
SPEAKER_03: I like it.
50:26
SPEAKER_03: I like it.
50:26
SPEAKER_03: Darren wants more inside zone runs.
50:28
SPEAKER_03: He dislikes offense.
50:31
SPEAKER_02: Great job, Greg.
50:33
SPEAKER_02: You you you you have officially analyzed it.
50:36
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, thanks for having my back there, Shane.
50:37
SPEAKER_03: For sure.
50:39
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, um, but yeah, I I like that this kind of it goes well with uh what you were saying there.
50:43
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we gotta rank them.
50:45
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
50:45
SPEAKER_03: Utah line.
50:46
SPEAKER_01: And they really didn't look that bad.
50:48
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
50:48
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I especially for some of those young guys, they I think they played really well.
50:52
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's just yeah.
50:53
SPEAKER_03: I'm sitting here watching, I'm just like, okay, there's obviously either something I'm missing or the guy behind me is like just way more brilliant than I am.
50:59
SPEAKER_03: Because I was like, I'm not really impressed.
51:00
SPEAKER_03: He kept saying it over and over again, not really impressed with this old line.
51:03
SPEAKER_03: I'm like, oh, okay, well, I started noticing the missed assignments, and I'm like, oh, maybe, maybe not.
51:08
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
51:08
SPEAKER_03: So I figured that's I'd I'd save that for this.
51:11
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
51:11
SPEAKER_03: I could have texted you, but I thought it would be funner this way.
51:13
SPEAKER_01: Either way, yeah.
51:14
SPEAKER_01: I I I'll explain it to you anytime, buddy.
51:16
SPEAKER_01: You know that.
51:17
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, appreciate it.
51:18
SPEAKER_03: We got a comment here from uh Shane saying, I only know about the jazz and Utah versus BYU versus Utah State rivalry.
51:26
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, Battle of the Brothers.
51:27
SPEAKER_03: Did you know that?
51:28
SPEAKER_03: I did know that.
51:28
SPEAKER_03: Utah versus Utah State.
51:29
SPEAKER_03: Did you know going up until 1954 that game was always played on Thanksgiving?
51:33
SPEAKER_01: That's actually legendary.
51:35
SPEAKER_01: Um I I think that like this is the Utah Utah State like you know, used to be an actual rivalry game where where these teams were actually pretty closely matched.
51:44
SPEAKER_01: They got a lot of their talent from the state of Utah, and a lot of times they were, but you know, playing brothers on opposite teams.
51:51
SPEAKER_01: So uh it's it it actually is a a really cool game to play in state.
51:56
SPEAKER_01: Um and I I just I love watching Utah.
52:00
SPEAKER_03: I and I love what uh the the connections.
52:02
SPEAKER_03: I mean, you know, pagan got the a lot of the a lot of the catches for the first part of the uh first drive of the game.
52:07
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, also got the first touchdown.
52:09
SPEAKER_03: Yep.
52:09
SPEAKER_03: Uh so and then he was from Utah State, so you know there's a whole lot of that going on.
52:13
SPEAKER_03: So there's a lot of fun with that.
52:14
SPEAKER_03: Bronco Mindenhall, obviously BYU um football coach, if you want to call him that when he was down there, or you know, missionary president, whatever you want to call him while he was down there.
52:25
SPEAKER_03: Uh I just tell you that it was really awkward, dude.
52:30
SPEAKER_03: I you know, even my active LDS guys were like, oh come on, dude, just talk football.
52:34
SPEAKER_03: Like it's just it was really bad.
52:36
SPEAKER_03: It was fun.
52:37
SPEAKER_03: Bill O'Reilly, auto parts, um, Coach McGee uh is a wizard.
52:43
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
52:44
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
52:44
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
52:45
SPEAKER_03: Why y'all don't love Drake Toll?
52:49
SPEAKER_01: No, I hate Drake Toll.
52:52
SPEAKER_01: So I'll just say that.
52:53
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, there's a lot of drama.
52:54
SPEAKER_03: Did you hear the drama uh down down south about uh Klein Sataki versus versus um the the athletic uh the athletic president or the athletic director down there?
53:06
SPEAKER_03: Have you heard any of this?
53:07
SPEAKER_03: I did not.
53:07
SPEAKER_03: I don't follow BYU football.
53:09
SPEAKER_03: So Jay Hill is out, right?
53:11
SPEAKER_03: Jay Hill's out, right?
53:13
SPEAKER_01: Well he left to Michigan, right?
53:15
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
53:15
SPEAKER_03: And so and then as well, so the and then the guy that clients that hired Klein Sataki is no longer there, right?
53:22
SPEAKER_03: And so the new person wants to put in their guy.
53:27
SPEAKER_03: And what happened was was when um client Sataki was getting courted by Penn State and some others, some actually say the Michigan State job was off also his that he turned down before the officer to Coach Witt.
53:38
SPEAKER_03: Uh, they said they might be potentially looking to him as well.
53:41
SPEAKER_03: But um I don't know if that one's confirmed or not yet.
53:44
SPEAKER_03: But the thing about it is is that they were promises that were made to him that he's aired out in the press that have not yet been met when he re-signed to stay with BYU.
53:54
SPEAKER_03: So there's kind of like this butting heads and this continuing civil war going against kind of like the athletic director for BYU and their head coach Klein Sataki.
54:03
SPEAKER_03: Huh.
54:04
SPEAKER_03: Which, you know, I think is absolutely ridiculous.
54:07
SPEAKER_03: You've got, I I would say Klein Sataki is probably one of the better coaches in college football.
54:13
SPEAKER_03: He's made he's doing a lot with a lot less than most teams in college football right now.
54:20
SPEAKER_01: I mean, a lot less.
54:22
SPEAKER_01: I don't know if you can say that.
54:23
SPEAKER_01: I mean you realize BYU is number three in the Big 12 in NIL spending, right?
54:27
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but it's the Big 12 spending.
54:29
SPEAKER_03: Like keep that in mind.
54:30
SPEAKER_03: Like he's doing a lot with a lot less, but I mean his pay and his coaching staff's pay.
54:34
SPEAKER_03: That's what I'm saying.
54:35
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
54:35
SPEAKER_01: Not necessarily NIL on the NIL talent or players coming in.
54:39
SPEAKER_01: You're saying with what overall, I I bet you he's not that underpaid.
54:43
SPEAKER_01: No, but for a for a college football coach.
54:46
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, this is this is a quote coming directly from Spence Checkitz, who knows how much he actually makes.
54:50
SPEAKER_03: So when he's saying he's doing a lot with a lot less than what you think he's getting, you know, and obviously, you know, Scaly's making what five million a year, five point two million.
54:58
SPEAKER_03: He's uh his contract's paid by the state, so he's the highest not the highest paid state employee.
55:03
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
55:03
SPEAKER_03: Wit was, but at the time.
55:04
SPEAKER_03: But yeah, this one's kind of interesting, man.
55:06
SPEAKER_03: A lot of stuff.
55:07
SPEAKER_03: If you want to get interested in some drama from down south, this one story, that's it's it's a great one.
55:12
SPEAKER_03: Um, I think Klein Sataki, I think they should just basically do whatever they can to keep him.
55:16
SPEAKER_03: Uh Greg Hawkins says, uh, doesn't agree with me here.
55:18
SPEAKER_03: Klein Sataki is mediocre, he hasn't won anything ever.
55:22
SPEAKER_03: Uh what is their biggest wins?
55:25
SPEAKER_01: Uh Santiako was right.
55:27
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, fair enough.
55:28
SPEAKER_03: Fair enough.
55:29
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
55:29
SPEAKER_03: For me, man, I just don't think that they're gonna get much better.
55:32
SPEAKER_03: That's what I'm saying.
55:33
SPEAKER_03: You know, I just think that you got a homegrown guy that's part of your religion, that wants to be part of your school, that wants to be there, and he's actually a good football coach.
55:42
SPEAKER_03: Like, you gotta keep that guy, keep him happy, keep do whatever you gotta do to keep him there, keep him happy.
55:46
SPEAKER_03: I just think they're not gonna be able to replace it with somebody better, in my opinion.
55:49
SPEAKER_03: That's what I think.
55:50
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
55:50
SPEAKER_03: Um, we want to hear from you folks.
55:52
SPEAKER_03: Let us know your thoughts are in the comments down below.
55:53
SPEAKER_03: Way too much BYU talk for uh uh Utah football channel.
55:57
SPEAKER_01: That's correct.
55:57
SPEAKER_03: Uh let's go ahead and move on over, man.
55:59
SPEAKER_03: Let's go ahead and preview a little bit of Utah versus Ohio State.
56:03
SPEAKER_01: Uh how about Iowa State?
56:05
SPEAKER_03: Iowa State.
56:05
SPEAKER_03: I heard it both ways.
56:06
SPEAKER_03: Just getting though I haven't.
56:07
SPEAKER_03: Iowa State.
56:08
SPEAKER_03: Dude, I do that all the time.
56:10
SPEAKER_03: Those two states mess with my brain.
56:12
SPEAKER_03: Anyway, so AJ, we have number 15 ranked Utes on the road to open conference play against Iowa State.
56:20
SPEAKER_03: Um, again, starting conference play uh against the Cyclones.
56:23
SPEAKER_03: They are two and one.
56:25
SPEAKER_03: Um, they lost to the Iowa Hawkeyes in a last second field goal.
56:30
SPEAKER_03: Uh reports are that their defense um is a bit undersized.
56:34
SPEAKER_03: Um their head coach uh Rogers uh runs a heavy uh 10 and 12 man rotation on the defensive line to come back some of the larger offensive lines that are in conference uh when it comes to that, AJ.
56:49
SPEAKER_03: Uh some of the players worth noting is sophomore uh David Cuffey.
56:53
SPEAKER_03: He's the cornerback.
56:54
SPEAKER_03: Uh he had his he's gonna have his hands full against the secondary and is gonna have multiple backfield assignments uh for some trick plays and trick formations that the youths are gonna throw at him.
57:03
SPEAKER_03: Uh, you also have uh Jack uh Janinkowski.
57:06
SPEAKER_03: He's a defensive end, pretty much a pretty dominant performance he had last week as well.
57:11
SPEAKER_03: Um when it comes to um Iowa State.
57:14
SPEAKER_03: Utah is favored on this one by 10 and a half points.
57:16
SPEAKER_03: Iowa State is expected to finish last in the conference, AJ.
57:20
SPEAKER_03: Uh so we should see how they face up against the Utes here and give them a chance to uh change that narrative.
57:27
SPEAKER_01: Yes, this this will be a this will be an interesting, an interesting game to watch because Iowa State is uh this is an offense that relies really heavy on the run game.
57:36
SPEAKER_01: They're they're very run heavy.
57:38
SPEAKER_01: So this is going to be a good first test to see how our our Utes defend the pass.
57:44
SPEAKER_01: Because there was times last year where the Utes run defense looked really, really bad.
57:48
SPEAKER_01: And um this this will no doubt be the the the toughest rushing offense that we have faced this year, right?
57:56
SPEAKER_01: I mean, not that not that any of those teams were good rushing the football, but this will be the best rushing offense we've seen.
58:01
SPEAKER_03: Um, the cons will kill us.
58:04
SPEAKER_01: I know, and and their offensive line, they they do actually a really good job of blocking the run.
58:08
SPEAKER_01: Um, they're big, they're physical, their running back Aiden Flora.
58:12
SPEAKER_01: Um, he's currently tied for 10th in all of FPS with 328 yards on the ground.
58:15
SPEAKER_01: That is over 100 yards a game.
58:18
SPEAKER_01: Um, he is a very efficient uh if he gets into open space, he will take off on you.
58:24
SPEAKER_01: Um their quarterback, Jalen Raynor, uh dual threat senior quarterback.
58:27
SPEAKER_01: He's thrown for 434, four touchdowns.
58:30
SPEAKER_01: Um he's rushed for 110 yards and two touchdowns.
58:33
SPEAKER_01: So he will throw it.
58:34
SPEAKER_01: He's not as you know pro prolifically a thrower as Dampere is.
58:38
SPEAKER_01: Um you know, Dampier's currently got 690 passing yards through three games.
58:43
SPEAKER_01: So um, but these guys, these guys can move the ball.
58:46
SPEAKER_01: They they actually didn't play bad against uh Iowa.
58:50
SPEAKER_01: I was kind of I don't know if it was pleasantly surprised, but surprised.
58:55
SPEAKER_01: Um it was a very low-scoring affair.
58:57
SPEAKER_01: It looked like a Big Ten matchup.
58:59
SPEAKER_01: Um so it was kind of surprising to see the ball not move as much.
59:04
SPEAKER_01: Um, and then you know, but but but it was a pretty low-scoring game.
59:08
SPEAKER_01: I mean, it was what 13-16, I think is how it ended, or I didn't put it in my notes, but it was watching the highlights in this game were only like six minutes.
59:18
SPEAKER_01: However, Silas 8.
59:19
SPEAKER_01: Because it was there was a lot of punting going on.
59:21
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think uh 13-16.
59:24
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and they kicked a f- I think they kicked a field goal with like 15 seconds left.
59:27
SPEAKER_01: So um I'm excited to see how our linebackers do.
59:31
SPEAKER_01: Uh I think this will be the the uh Trey Reynolds has been fantastic.
59:36
SPEAKER_01: Um John O'Hall's been fantastic.
59:38
SPEAKER_01: These two guys are we're gonna rely really hard on these um these two guys to stop that run.
59:44
SPEAKER_01: Um that is going to that is going to to uh really show us what this defensive linebacker unit is going to be this year.
59:54
SPEAKER_01: Um because they're they're going to have to this this team doesn't throw the ball up the field a lot.
1:00:01
SPEAKER_01: They run a lot of short crossing routes, um, they throw a lot of you know side screens.
1:00:05
SPEAKER_01: Um Raynor's not he's not going to throw the ball vertically uh a whole lot from from all the tape that I just watched on them over the last couple of days.
1:00:14
SPEAKER_01: I I just didn't see it.
1:00:15
SPEAKER_01: I mean, and and a lot of his long balls are not super accurate.
1:00:18
SPEAKER_01: You know, the couple that he threw against uh one of the crappy teams they played, I think he threw two picks in that game, but just balls just massively underthrown.
1:00:26
SPEAKER_01: So and and and the thing is as you do that stuff against Utah, you're gonna be in the same situation.
1:00:30
SPEAKER_01: You know, we're gonna put you an eye on an island, make your guy beat ours.
1:00:33
SPEAKER_01: Um and and we've just got some great athletes out there.
1:00:36
SPEAKER_01: Rabbit Evans played great last game, um, Chennault played great.
1:00:40
SPEAKER_01: So I I think you know, you're you're gonna you're gonna go all in and continue to guard those, you know, let our corners be one-on-one with their guys, you know, rush the ball.
1:00:50
SPEAKER_01: So um Iowa State is a tough place to play though.
1:00:53
SPEAKER_01: Um their fans will be fired up.
1:00:55
SPEAKER_01: I mean, this is you know, I I actually have the current line at Utah minus 8.5.
1:01:00
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I saw that over there.
1:01:01
SPEAKER_03: I'm like, when did you see that?
1:01:02
SPEAKER_03: When did you get that line?
1:01:03
SPEAKER_01: That was today.
1:01:04
SPEAKER_03: Okay, mine was last night.
1:01:05
SPEAKER_01: So yeah, so so the lines move back.
1:01:08
SPEAKER_01: Lines move back, guys.
1:01:09
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:01:09
SPEAKER_01: Um interesting.
1:01:11
SPEAKER_01: And and but I'm gonna go ahead and say my prediction for this game um will be a little bit more than the 8.5.
1:01:16
SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna say um I I think we'll see some creativity from the Utah offense.
1:01:20
SPEAKER_01: I think that uh this will be a whole nother, you know, they're gonna peel another layer off this onion and show something else that that teams can't just continue to plan for.
1:01:29
SPEAKER_01: Uh, I'm gonna say Utah 28, Ida, Iowa State 14.
1:01:33
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
1:01:34
SPEAKER_03: I like it.
1:01:35
SPEAKER_03: I think you're a little high on on Iowa State, though.
1:01:39
SPEAKER_03: I I don't think they get to 14.
1:01:41
SPEAKER_03: I think they get a field goal and a touchdown in the fourth quarter.
1:01:44
SPEAKER_01: You're gonna go with 10, huh?
1:01:45
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, they're gonna get to 10.
1:01:46
SPEAKER_01: I think.
1:01:47
SPEAKER_03: But I think you're spot on there on your anal on your analysis there.
1:01:50
SPEAKER_03: Um, again, this is this is their chance to make a statement, right?
1:01:57
SPEAKER_03: They know everybody's picking them dead last in the conference.
1:02:00
SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
1:02:01
SPEAKER_03: So you got a chance to go knock somebody off who's on top who also hasn't played anybody yet.
1:02:05
SPEAKER_03: You know, you haven't played anybody yet, like not really.
1:02:08
SPEAKER_01: And according to ESPN Football Power Index, Utah is the top team in the Big 12 conference.
1:02:12
SPEAKER_03: I mean, I love that.
1:02:14
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:02:14
SPEAKER_03: I love that.
1:02:15
SPEAKER_03: Not gonna hate on that.
1:02:16
SPEAKER_03: But yeah, the fact that the Lions move that much already is kind of a little cause for concern.
1:02:20
SPEAKER_03: I think they're gonna score 10, but I think you're spot on there.
1:02:23
SPEAKER_03: I think it's gonna be uh 28-10.
1:02:25
SPEAKER_03: I think you're gonna be, I think you're pretty close.
1:02:27
SPEAKER_03: I think you're pretty close.
1:02:28
SPEAKER_03: Um, and honestly, you probably know better than I do.
1:02:30
SPEAKER_01: So Utah's offense could go crazier than 28 points, though.
1:02:33
SPEAKER_01: I honestly said I think they're gonna do a little bit more of the I think they're averaging just about 40 a game so far.
1:02:39
SPEAKER_03: I didn't put in my notes, but I wanted to talk about this one because I think when is uh Morgan Scaly's defensive approach to a game, how much of that was wit and how much of that was his?
1:02:48
SPEAKER_03: Once you have a sizable lead and you're just gonna use the Utah defense to keep dragging you down and just keep the ball in the offense and just keep running down versus necessarily trying to run up the score.
1:03:01
SPEAKER_03: Are we gonna start seeing some of that?
1:03:02
SPEAKER_03: Was how much of that was wit where they did that, where they used the defense to kind of just kill the clock when they had a decent lead, and how much that was Morgan Scalley.
1:03:10
SPEAKER_01: Just from what we've seen so far, I think Scaly will continue pushing the offense up the field.
1:03:14
SPEAKER_03: That's what I'm thinking too.
1:03:15
SPEAKER_03: But I think when against a uh conference player, I think.
1:03:18
SPEAKER_01: That's a good point, though, because that that 28 might be low because the the youths aren't gonna just like let their foot off the gas if they get ahead in this game.
1:03:25
SPEAKER_01: They're gonna continue pushing the ball, they're gonna continue trying to score.
1:03:28
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so 28.
1:03:29
SPEAKER_03: I think uh that's giving the defense credit because they do have some uh some players there, like I mentioned.
1:03:33
SPEAKER_03: But um yeah, I don't know.
1:03:35
SPEAKER_03: Like, because I'm thinking because I was thinking about that.
1:03:38
SPEAKER_03: I'm like, you know, how much of that we're gonna see?
1:03:41
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, how much of that was wit and how much of that's gonna be scaly because he was a defensive coordinator.
1:03:44
SPEAKER_03: So anyway, what I don't hear from you folks, let us know what your thoughts are in the comments down below.
1:03:48
SPEAKER_03: Let's go ahead and jump in the chat and get to some of this here.
1:03:50
SPEAKER_03: We've got uh uh Greg Hawkins saying 38-10.
1:03:52
SPEAKER_01: Oh, okay.
1:03:53
SPEAKER_03: See, that's a better score.
1:03:54
SPEAKER_03: We like that one better.
1:03:56
SPEAKER_03: Like that one better, Greg.
1:03:57
SPEAKER_03: We got uh comment here from McKinley.
1:03:59
SPEAKER_03: Uh, did you see the playoff committee announcing uh new rules about how they're gonna pick teams for the CFP?
1:04:03
SPEAKER_03: Conference strength will apparently be conference strength will uh be heavily considered when picking uh teams.
1:04:11
SPEAKER_01: The next comment is my exact thought when I saw this headline.
1:04:13
SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
1:04:14
SPEAKER_01: The Big 12 is screwed.
1:04:15
SPEAKER_01: Absolutely, and I just think that is that is the most jacked up rule, or if for the CFP to even blatantly come out and say that they're going to wait conference, like there's only two conferences that they that they even care about.
1:04:31
SPEAKER_01: And it's a Big Ten and the SEC.
1:04:33
SPEAKER_01: And to say that, oh well, all these teams at the bottom, like how how exactly do you continue to wait that?
1:04:40
SPEAKER_01: Are you gonna take the the worst teams in the league and how they performed against the best teams in the league?
1:04:44
SPEAKER_03: Right.
1:04:44
SPEAKER_03: And the other thing about that is is that I I love the timing of it, right?
1:04:48
SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah.
1:04:49
SPEAKER_03: Oregon got spanked, right?
1:04:51
SPEAKER_03: They got knocked down, right?
1:04:52
SPEAKER_03: And then you have three potential teams, and let's not count, let's not discount Houston, right?
1:04:58
SPEAKER_03: So we've got three potential teams, and then you know, maybe Houston's a shot dark, but they can what about West Virginia?
1:05:06
SPEAKER_01: Well, West Virginia's three and oh right now.
1:05:09
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so is half the conference.
1:05:10
SPEAKER_01: But what I'm saying is like like not technically half the conference, but um I'll finish your thought.
1:05:17
SPEAKER_01: Am I off?
1:05:17
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they're not quite half the conference.
1:05:19
SPEAKER_03: Who am I thinking of?
1:05:20
SPEAKER_03: Who am I missing?
1:05:22
SPEAKER_01: I mean, there's a ton of teams in that.
1:05:24
SPEAKER_01: Okay, yeah, you're right.
1:05:24
SPEAKER_03: Never mind, never mind.
1:05:25
SPEAKER_03: Okay, I forgot about Cincinnati.
1:05:27
SPEAKER_03: Um anyway, so when it comes to that, there um should I even lost my thought process?
1:05:32
SPEAKER_03: So, but you basically have three teams that are competing for the Big 12 conference, right?
1:05:36
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
1:05:37
SPEAKER_03: And then if all these three teams, you know, they're not playing each other.
1:05:40
SPEAKER_03: So if they dominate and they come out with like two teams that have a one loss, and then the other one loses the conference or no losses, or we have an undefeated team that wins the conference title, and then the only other team that lost was lost in the conference championship.
1:05:55
SPEAKER_03: You've got to get those two teams in there, right?
1:05:57
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, just no arguing that.
1:05:58
SPEAKER_03: But you come out here and say, Oh, Okay, strength of conference the conference matters, then that's basically your way of coming out and saying ahead of time, hey, if this happens, we're still not going to let a team in.
1:06:08
SPEAKER_01: No, because the the strength of conference, well, the Big 12 is not a stuff of conference as the SEC is.
1:06:13
SPEAKER_01: And they will completely disregard Utah spanking the pants off of Arkansas and sending them home to a point where they have to like fire their athletic director and barely out.
1:06:23
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they're their fans don't show up for games anymore because of what Utah did to them here in Salt Lake City.
1:06:28
SPEAKER_03: To your point, man, when I talked about when it comes to regulation back in the day, like two years ago, when I said we need to do that with college football, like you, you know, we have when we do this two-stream structure.
1:06:36
SPEAKER_03: Arkansas last year would have been not been an SEC.
1:06:40
SPEAKER_03: Relegated.
1:06:41
SPEAKER_03: Everybody would have been relegated.
1:06:42
SPEAKER_03: A Big Ten school would have came up, and then another Big 12 school would have got a Big Ten.
1:06:47
SPEAKER_03: I just think that's a better way of doing it, man.
1:06:48
SPEAKER_03: Better way of doing it.
1:06:49
SPEAKER_03: Anyway, um, yeah, I just think that's them being preemptive, saying, What's see the writing on the wall, saying, like, uh-oh, the Big 12s making a push.
1:06:56
SPEAKER_03: We got a couple of strong teams, they're not going to be up on each other.
1:06:58
SPEAKER_03: Let's get ahead of this.
1:07:00
SPEAKER_03: Let's make sure we can get a three-loss Alabama in there over uh.
1:07:04
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and then they'll even lose these games tough.
1:07:06
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, exactly.
1:07:07
SPEAKER_01: They'll get they'll get they'll get their pants like beat off of them in a couple of games and be like, well, it was an SEC team that beat them.
1:07:14
SPEAKER_01: Like, no, Georgia shouldn't be able to beat you 56 to 10, and they still make the conference, the college football playoff.
1:07:19
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's absolutely ridiculous, man.
1:07:20
SPEAKER_03: I I'm not a fan of it, dude.
1:07:22
SPEAKER_03: Glad you brought it up there, McKinley, because yeah, we definitely need to air that one out.
1:07:25
SPEAKER_03: We got a comment here from McKinley, uh, which in my eyes means screw every team that's not in the SEC.
1:07:31
SPEAKER_03: Uh sucks to be a BYU in Utah who will never get uh never make the playoffs together.
1:07:36
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, that's exactly what this is doing.
1:07:38
SPEAKER_03: Because if it would have been the you know, Utah, uh sorry, Texas Tech isn't necessarily, you know, they're showing flaws this year.
1:07:44
SPEAKER_01: So flaws are an understatement.
1:07:46
SPEAKER_01: That's a whole nother episode though.
1:07:47
SPEAKER_03: We'll get into that later.
1:07:48
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
1:07:49
SPEAKER_03: I just I yeah, I think it's uh that's unfortunate.
1:07:52
SPEAKER_03: Uh we'll see what happens though.
1:07:53
SPEAKER_03: You know, uh hopefully, hopefully we're wrong on that.
1:07:56
SPEAKER_03: And this is just them making sure Greg's comment nails it.
1:07:59
SPEAKER_01: They're trying to make sure we don't get more than one team in.
1:08:01
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's basically what we've been saying this whole time.
1:08:03
SPEAKER_03: It's kind of messed up.
1:08:04
SPEAKER_03: We want a conference champion and an ACC conference championship, and then the rest of them are gonna be Big 12 and SEC teams.
1:08:10
SPEAKER_03: It's just a so it's Big Ten.
1:08:12
SPEAKER_01: Big Ten and SEC teams.
1:08:13
SPEAKER_01: What did I say?
1:08:14
SPEAKER_03: You said Big 12, but maybe I for audience slip.
1:08:16
SPEAKER_03: I want it to be Big 12 teams.
1:08:18
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, there you go.
1:08:18
SPEAKER_03: That's what I'm saying.
1:08:19
SPEAKER_03: Anyway, folks, we want to hear from you guys, know what your thoughts are.
1:08:22
SPEAKER_01: Hold on, before we go, I gotta say one thing.
1:08:24
SPEAKER_01: What's up, Utah fans?
1:08:25
SPEAKER_01: I need you guys to show up for Utah basketball this year.
1:08:28
SPEAKER_01: I know we're talking Utah football.
1:08:30
SPEAKER_01: Okay, nice.
1:08:31
SPEAKER_01: But Utah basketball is about to start happening.
1:08:33
SPEAKER_01: I need you guys to go fill up what is that?
1:08:38
SPEAKER_03: Huntsman Center.
1:08:39
SPEAKER_01: Huntsman Center.
1:08:40
SPEAKER_01: Go fill it up.
1:08:40
SPEAKER_01: We gotta be there for our Utah basketball team this year, too.
1:08:43
SPEAKER_03: Why is that coming up?
1:08:44
SPEAKER_01: I just thought about it.
1:08:46
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
1:08:46
SPEAKER_03: They were actually on the field, by the way.
1:08:48
SPEAKER_03: Uh, they were on the field uh to wave at the crowd there before the game.
1:08:51
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and I think Delon Wright was there too.
1:08:53
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it was actually really cool.
1:08:55
SPEAKER_03: Uh funny thing, my my old man pointed out.
1:08:57
SPEAKER_03: So he had season tickets to the Utes way back in the day.
1:09:00
SPEAKER_03: He's like, you know, that cannon used to be over there.
1:09:02
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, used to be on the other side.
1:09:04
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:09:04
SPEAKER_03: And he's like, I guarantee you the Crimson Club didn't like the loud noise going off.
1:09:09
SPEAKER_03: And so they moved it over to the other side.
1:09:12
SPEAKER_03: Bring it to the north end zone.
1:09:14
SPEAKER_03: Bring it over to the commoners.
1:09:15
SPEAKER_03: They can only afford$300 a seat to them.
1:09:18
SPEAKER_01: That cannon was is is very disrupting from where um the seats you were sitting in were.
1:09:24
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you're familiar with them.
1:09:25
SPEAKER_01: Very, very loud.
1:09:26
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, very, very loud.
1:09:28
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:09:30
SPEAKER_03: It's pointed right at you.
1:09:30
SPEAKER_03: So you just kind of like, I really hope nobody loads that.
1:09:33
SPEAKER_01: It's like terrifying, too, because everyone goes out and you're like, just happened.
1:09:37
SPEAKER_01: It's good.
1:09:37
SPEAKER_03: Great.
1:09:38
SPEAKER_03: Uh we want to hear from you folks.
1:09:39
SPEAKER_03: Let us know your thoughts are in the comments down below.
1:09:41
SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
1:09:41
SPEAKER_03: Go out there and and hit uh hit the Huntsman Center, support the Utah uh basketball squad there, the running youth.
1:09:48
SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
1:09:48
SPEAKER_03: Yep.
1:09:49
SPEAKER_03: Um, we want to hear from you, and we'll cover them a little bit on this channel, not this channel because it's a football channel, but on DNA sports recap.
1:09:54
SPEAKER_03: Um, if we uh you guys want to see some of that.
1:09:57
SPEAKER_03: So all right, man.
1:09:58
SPEAKER_03: You want to go ahead and jump in and talk a little bit about Major League Baseball?
1:10:01
SPEAKER_02: Let's do it.
1:10:01
SPEAKER_03: All right, go Uts.
1:10:03
SPEAKER_03: Go Uts.
1:10:10
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1:10:15
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1:10:22
SPEAKER_03: Do it.
1:10:23
SPEAKER_03: All right, man.
1:10:24
SPEAKER_03: So let's go ahead and jump into it.
1:10:26
SPEAKER_03: Uh, we actually didn't title who's gonna lead this one.
1:10:29
SPEAKER_03: No, we didn't.
1:10:29
SPEAKER_01: I'm pretty sure we have the same notes.
1:10:31
SPEAKER_01: So I just kind of abandoned it there.
1:10:32
SPEAKER_03: So why don't you go for it, man?
1:10:33
SPEAKER_03: Why don't you unroll this one?
1:10:34
SPEAKER_01: Uh I mean the thing is, is this wouldn't be Major League DNA if we weren't talking about our favorite MLB pitcher that will never be in Major League Baseball again.
1:10:42
unknown: Right.
1:10:42
SPEAKER_01: Of course, the only person that could be is Trevor Bauer.
1:10:45
SPEAKER_01: Um he announced that he has signed to play in the Dominican Professional Baseball League, the LIDOM, um, for the 26-27 winter season.
1:10:53
SPEAKER_01: This will be his first stint playing winter ball in the Dominican Republic, um, with a reported monthly contract exceeding$55,000.
1:11:03
SPEAKER_01: Darren, we love Trevor and we think he is great.
1:11:07
SPEAKER_01: So what are your thoughts on him signing to play in the DR?
1:11:10
SPEAKER_03: I think it's quite uh quite on point.
1:11:13
SPEAKER_03: I think his announcement when he announced to play in the DR was uh quite on point there, and I think he said it enough uh about it.
1:11:19
SPEAKER_03: And I think it's spot on because this is exactly the way I would see it as well.
1:11:23
SPEAKER_03: Um, he's excited to play with the Entreles Orientalis.
1:11:26
SPEAKER_03: I butchered the hell out of that.
1:11:28
SPEAKER_03: Sorry, guys.
1:11:29
SPEAKER_03: Um he is first uh which season begins on October 16th.
1:11:32
SPEAKER_03: He said uh Bower said the reason why he's joining this uh the DR League uh winner ball is because the passion the Dominican Republic has towards Major League Baseball.
1:11:41
SPEAKER_03: If you ever watch this team play in the WBC, you know exactly what we're talking about.
1:11:47
SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
1:11:48
SPEAKER_03: Is these guys are absolutely insane.
1:11:50
SPEAKER_03: They just have they have a support for their team that you just never see anywhere else.
1:11:55
SPEAKER_01: But also, these guys grow up hitting like hitting rocks with sticks, dude.
1:12:00
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, bottle caps.
1:12:01
SPEAKER_01: You know, everything.
1:12:02
SPEAKER_01: I mean, these are just this is some of the best baseball players in the world, and some of like these guys play in the Dominican Republic because they want to play in the Dominican Republic, they don't want to come to the U.S.
1:12:12
SPEAKER_01: to play.
1:12:13
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, well, what they do is a lot of the DR team, a lot of the players in Major League Baseball, they will still go in winter and play in the in the winter league.
1:12:20
SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
1:12:21
SPEAKER_03: You know, not everybody's got a chance to play on October 12th in Major League Baseball.
1:12:24
SPEAKER_03: So it's not everybody, yeah.
1:12:26
SPEAKER_03: Uh couple teams this week, though, for sure.
1:12:28
SPEAKER_03: We'll talk about that here in a minute.
1:12:29
SPEAKER_03: But yeah, I absolutely think that's a big reason why I do it.
1:12:31
SPEAKER_03: He's actually wanting to get a chance to play the Caribbean series, which is their championship.
1:12:35
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you know, definitely checking out that bucket list, you know.
1:12:37
SPEAKER_03: Um, while, you know, he originally asked for 80, I think 83K.
1:12:42
SPEAKER_03: Um, but he did settle on 50 55, which hey, you know, 35-year-old pitcher who is never gonna see another inning in Major League Baseball, unfortunately, uh, at least as the pitcher, getting to play the DR, making 55k a year when you're sitting on a 55k a month.
1:12:58
SPEAKER_03: 55k a month, sorry, when you're sitting on, you know, 80 million dollars of Dodgers payroll that you didn't earn.
1:13:03
SPEAKER_03: Um, you know, is definitely something that's uh, you know, not you know, it's a great way to go out, dude.
1:13:08
SPEAKER_03: Like if you're gonna play some baseball, I'm not saying he's gonna retire after this winter ball.
1:13:12
SPEAKER_01: No, for sure.
1:13:13
SPEAKER_03: But like if you're gonna like what he's been doing, man, I'm like he's Major League Baseball, won a Cy Yung.
1:13:18
SPEAKER_03: Um then he went and played, then he got to play for the Dodgers, his his uh childhood team.
1:13:23
SPEAKER_03: Then from there, when that whole thing went down, um, he then went and played in Japan and got to play in one of those cool markets.
1:13:30
SPEAKER_03: Then he came and played in the um in the Mexican league.
1:13:34
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you know, and got to lead the Diablos to uh championship.
1:13:37
SPEAKER_03: And then he gets to go to Independent.
1:13:40
SPEAKER_03: Independent.
1:13:40
SPEAKER_03: No, he goes back to Japan.
1:13:41
SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah, has some injuries, comes to independent ball, plays in the US for the first time, and now he gets to go play in the DR.
1:13:46
SPEAKER_01: Well then the independent team traded him back to Mexico.
1:13:49
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
1:13:50
SPEAKER_03: So it's just really, really cool.
1:13:52
SPEAKER_03: And if you're not gonna be able to play Major League Baseball, I think the way he's doing it is awesome.
1:13:56
SPEAKER_03: He's putting out content online, he's letting all the fans see the behind-the-scenes action.
1:14:00
SPEAKER_03: And yeah, you know, is he not gonna get major league baseball again?
1:14:04
SPEAKER_03: Probably not.
1:14:04
SPEAKER_03: I think the odds are against him at this point, you know.
1:14:07
SPEAKER_03: But at the same time, you know, he's still a great pitcher, man.
1:14:09
SPEAKER_01: Still think he can help an MLB team.
1:14:12
SPEAKER_01: Um, yeah, I mean he's I think he can give some service some serviceable innings.
1:14:17
SPEAKER_03: I think he is a great pitcher.
1:14:22
SPEAKER_03: I think he still could help Major League Baseball.
1:14:25
SPEAKER_03: He's no longer a front-end rotation guy for the majority of teams.
1:14:29
SPEAKER_01: Totally agree.
1:14:30
SPEAKER_01: He's definitely gonna be especially with the the way that he's getting hit in some of these subpar leagues.
1:14:35
SPEAKER_03: Exactly.
1:14:35
SPEAKER_03: You know, and you know, I think it's he, you know, we've kind of hashed it to death on why he's not back in Major League Baseball.
1:14:41
SPEAKER_03: In my opinion, it's because he won't stop doing other stuff and taking baseball seriously enough for our team to consider him.
1:14:46
SPEAKER_03: That's kind of the only reason why I think he's out.
1:14:48
SPEAKER_03: But honestly, I love to see what Trevor Bower is doing here.
1:14:51
SPEAKER_03: Love to watch his videos on YouTube and watch him break down pitching because it brings it a whole new eye to it that you don't get to see elsewhere.
1:14:57
SPEAKER_03: So yeah, nothing but love for here.
1:14:59
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, uh, make sure you follow him if you don't get a chance to, if you haven't chance, if you haven't had a chance to check out Momentum or Outbow or Outage.
1:15:06
SPEAKER_03: Great, great, uh, great follow on YouTube.
1:15:08
SPEAKER_01: So much fun to watch.
1:15:09
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:15:09
SPEAKER_03: Uh, we got a comment here from uh Greg Hawkins, PCA did it today.
1:15:14
SPEAKER_03: Definitely go into that a little bit here, a little bit later on.
1:15:17
SPEAKER_03: Um, now we have another comment that we another subject we wanted to cover here, AJ, and that's a little bit a bit about uh trouble in the Bronx, my friend.
1:15:25
SPEAKER_01: There there is some trouble, man.
1:15:26
SPEAKER_01: Be and did you see the most recent rendition of this?
1:15:30
SPEAKER_01: Okay, something after our I think I think it might have happened yesterday.
1:15:34
SPEAKER_03: Okay, so there's another one.
1:15:36
SPEAKER_01: So let me just give you this breakdown.
1:15:38
SPEAKER_01: Let me just give you this breakdown, and then you can.
1:15:40
SPEAKER_01: I bet you your notes are still probably pretty on point.
1:15:42
SPEAKER_01: If not, you know baseball like I know football.
1:15:44
SPEAKER_01: So um Aaron Judge wants to be on the field of the Yankees.
1:15:48
SPEAKER_01: That's that's that's what it is, right?
1:15:50
SPEAKER_01: He he uh when the Yankees open the playoffs on September 29th, but right now nobody knows if that's actually gonna happen.
1:15:58
SPEAKER_01: And uh Judge made it clear that his plan is to be ready for game one and uh Aaron Boone has repeatedly indicated that the Yankees are preparing as if Judge will miss the wild card series.
1:16:09
SPEAKER_01: So the Yankees are facing the Red Sox, potentially, facing the Red Sox in a best of three series.
1:16:15
SPEAKER_01: And uh Judge is still dealing with his moderate cap strain, and the muscle isn't torn, and the recovery timeline is, you know, still pretty much uncertain.
1:16:24
SPEAKER_01: And Boone just keeps saying, we'll see where he's at, we'll see where he's at.
1:16:29
SPEAKER_01: Aaron Judge is saying differently.
1:16:31
SPEAKER_01: He's saying that he's doing everything he can to put himself in a position to play for game one of the wild card series.
1:16:38
SPEAKER_01: So do we think he'll be ready for game one?
1:16:42
SPEAKER_01: And if he isn't ready, can the Yankees make it past the Red Sox without him?
1:16:46
SPEAKER_03: Okay, let's start with the first one.
1:16:48
SPEAKER_03: I think Boone's just saying what he needs to say to protect his player.
1:16:51
SPEAKER_03: I think so.
1:16:52
SPEAKER_03: But Aaron Judge is saying he's ready to play.
1:16:54
SPEAKER_03: I know, but he's falling on the sword to protect his player.
1:16:59
SPEAKER_03: Make sense.
1:17:00
SPEAKER_03: So Aaron Judge is going to be going to make himself be ready for game one, right?
1:17:04
SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
1:17:05
SPEAKER_03: And if he's not ready and the doctors shut him down, he gave him an out there saying, hey, the medical staff, we're gonna, you know, he's gave him a chance to get it out there.
1:17:13
SPEAKER_03: And if he does play in the series, in the wildcard series, he doesn't play well, he gave him out there.
1:17:18
SPEAKER_03: He played injured, right?
1:17:19
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
1:17:19
SPEAKER_03: This is Aaron Boone putting his player first, and you gotta love that.
1:17:22
SPEAKER_03: A lot of people are calling for Aaron Boone's head for how the Yankees haven't gotten it done with this roster, being one of the top five payrolls in baseball, and still not being able to get get over the finish line.
1:17:32
SPEAKER_03: Aaron Boone's not the problem.
1:17:33
SPEAKER_03: It's your GM that's the problem.
1:17:35
SPEAKER_03: Um, the fact that Aaron, the fact that uh Judge even got to entertain free agency is again just crazy.
1:17:44
SPEAKER_03: Just not smart, right?
1:17:45
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean that's madness.
1:17:46
SPEAKER_03: And to whether or not I think uh whether or not they'll get past the first round, I absolutely don't think it's gonna be an issue one way or the other.
1:17:51
SPEAKER_03: In a short three-game series, you don't need Aaron Judge, because let's let me just break it down this way.
1:17:56
SPEAKER_03: You have uh you just need to score some runs, right?
1:17:59
SPEAKER_03: You're not gonna need to power bat like judge in the lineup because your rotation is Cam Schlittler, gonna be the Cy Young this year, Max Fried, Garrett Cole, and Carlos Rodan.
1:18:08
SPEAKER_03: Those four are just pitching like in they are pitching very, very well.
1:18:12
SPEAKER_03: All of them are sub-four ERA.
1:18:14
SPEAKER_03: A Cam Schlittler's sub-2 ERA right now.
1:18:17
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:18:17
SPEAKER_03: And Garrett Cole looking like Garrett Cole of all coming down.
1:18:20
SPEAKER_01: And did you see that Cam Schlittler's sub-2 ERA is the first time since like 1948 that the Yankees players had that?
1:18:26
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, which is insane.
1:18:27
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:18:28
SPEAKER_03: You know, because you'd think they'd have a lot of good pitchers uh for the Yankees, but I guess they've always been known otherwise.
1:18:33
SPEAKER_03: So interesting thought.
1:18:34
SPEAKER_03: I I saw that, I'm like, that seems like that.
1:18:36
SPEAKER_01: So do you think that there's that there's a chance that the way that they're playing this is maybe to sit boon sit to sit, maybe Boone sits judge in that first game.
1:18:44
SPEAKER_01: Let's say the Yankees lose that first game, and Judge is still saying, Hey, I'm ready.
1:18:49
SPEAKER_01: And then they're like, Okay, no, we're we're we're having trouble generating offense.
1:18:53
SPEAKER_01: Let's get Judge out there for game two.
1:18:54
SPEAKER_03: That's also an option.
1:18:55
SPEAKER_03: I think he's doing everything he can to protect the player so he doesn't look like the bad guy.
1:19:00
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:19:00
SPEAKER_03: And then if he is hurt, he does, but I think he's just protecting Judge, and I think that's the right thing you need to do.
1:19:06
SPEAKER_03: But yeah, I don't think they need him because again, starting line starting rotation is probably the best in the American League, hands down.
1:19:13
SPEAKER_03: Probably the second best in all of baseball when it comes to total starters that are available, right?
1:19:17
SPEAKER_03: Right.
1:19:17
SPEAKER_03: And then on top of that, you also have a 3.14 ERA from the bullpen, which is actually uh one of the most premier relief units in all major league baseball this year.
1:19:28
SPEAKER_03: So their bullpen's good, their starting rotation is good, they just got to be able to put up some runs.
1:19:33
SPEAKER_03: You got uh Cody Bellinger who knows how to basically put the ball, put the bat the ball, can get some doubles.
1:19:38
SPEAKER_03: They got uh, you know, um Jazz Chisholm Jr.
1:19:41
SPEAKER_03: who, you know, who knows what happens there.
1:19:44
SPEAKER_03: But honestly, you don't need uh to hit home runs to win a short series, and that's what you're gonna need in a longer series.
1:19:50
SPEAKER_03: So I say give him I would say take it out, just simply say he's shut down, even though he wants to be there.
1:19:55
SPEAKER_03: But I would say even just shut him down.
1:19:57
SPEAKER_03: Um you don't need him for to win a three-game series, I don't think so.
1:20:00
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:20:01
SPEAKER_03: Um but yeah, you're definitely gonna need him in a seven-game series for sure.
1:20:04
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, gotta generate offense.
1:20:06
SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
1:20:07
SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
1:20:08
SPEAKER_01: No, I'm I'm totally with you.
1:20:11
SPEAKER_03: What else you got?
1:20:13
SPEAKER_03: Um I think those are from last week.
1:20:18
SPEAKER_01: Those are.
1:20:19
SPEAKER_01: Those are from last week.
1:20:20
SPEAKER_03: I got one I had, yeah.
1:20:21
SPEAKER_03: I got one for you.
1:20:23
SPEAKER_03: Um, so did you hear about um the civil war going on uh for Mets fans right now?
1:20:31
SPEAKER_01: I did not.
1:20:31
SPEAKER_03: Okay, we kind of talked about this a little bit, but the story's actually grown greater than that because then we've got a little civil war going on between the Mets uh media and the Mets fans.
1:20:40
SPEAKER_03: Okay, so let me break this down for you a little bit.
1:20:42
SPEAKER_03: Pete Alonzo, we talked about this.
1:20:44
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, okay, yeah.
1:20:45
SPEAKER_03: Pete Alonzo got a curtain call uh controversy that clashed between him, the loyal Mets fans, and the you know, the media that covers the team.
1:20:53
SPEAKER_03: And some of the actually the Mets players are on the same side uh when he hit his uh iconic 300th home run uh at City Field, but as an Oriol.
1:21:04
SPEAKER_03: Uh the Mats fans erupted erupted, chanted his name, um, ultimately coaxed him out for a curtain call for that, which is actually funny because this is like the third time he had to take his hat off and tip his cap to the fans and call time.
1:21:15
SPEAKER_03: Like they were just they loved themselves some polar bear Pete over there, right?
1:21:19
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:21:20
SPEAKER_03: Um everybody was every time uh they put the majority of his career there.
1:21:23
SPEAKER_03: Exactly.
1:21:24
SPEAKER_03: This is the first year he's not there.
1:21:25
SPEAKER_03: They're chanting his name, they're rooting for him.
1:21:28
SPEAKER_03: Even uh, even Uncle Steve there, Steve Cohen, the owner of the team, when he hit that 300 bomb, he stood up and he clapped as well.
1:21:34
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, right.
1:21:35
SPEAKER_03: So, but then you got uh people who are in the Mets uniform there, uh having a little bit of opposition for that.
1:21:41
SPEAKER_03: This is just the Mets faithful having honoring Peter Lanzo, who hit the majority of his home runs in a Mets uniform, became the franchise home run leader, by the way.
1:21:52
SPEAKER_03: Not only that, um he also was, you know, again, just being appreciated for all the time he spent in in Queens, right?
1:22:00
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
1:22:00
SPEAKER_03: But the media and some Mets players saw it differently.
1:22:03
SPEAKER_03: Uh, at the moment, uh Alonzo was the opponent, Shaw Mania, one of the pitches for the Mets, uh, called a reaction, uh, something that he's never seen before, thought it was pretty crazy, and that Mets players are still out there grinding for the team, and that to see them celebrate a team on the other side was kind of weird.
1:22:20
SPEAKER_03: Um, some other Mets fans were also um honoring, you know, just the fact that this player has achieved this milestone when he spent the majority of the time there.
1:22:29
SPEAKER_03: But you also had the Mets media saying it's an embarrassment that the fans should not be booing the Mets for walking Pete Alonso because they walked him once, right?
1:22:39
SPEAKER_03: They booed him.
1:22:40
SPEAKER_03: You know, it that there's just this whole thing going back and forth, and the media is sitting here saying different things and getting loud about it.
1:22:46
SPEAKER_03: And honestly, man, between me and you, I just I think it's really, really petty, dude.
1:22:51
SPEAKER_03: It's a really, really bad look.
1:22:53
SPEAKER_03: This guy was drafted by the Mets, won Rookie of the Year as a Met, won the home run derby as a Met, is the home run leader as a Met.
1:23:02
SPEAKER_03: And as for some reason, the team did not value his worth as much as he is worth.
1:23:08
SPEAKER_03: And the reason why I know this is, you know, some Mets fans or front offices might argue against me saying, oh, you know, they valued him.
1:23:15
SPEAKER_03: No, they didn't even offer him a contract when he became a free agent before he signed with the Baltimore Orioles, which is wild.
1:23:22
SPEAKER_03: The fact that they didn't even offer him.
1:23:24
SPEAKER_03: They said he said, Coach uh had the owner of the team said it was more tiring to negotiate with Pete Alonzo than it was for Juan Soto.
1:23:34
SPEAKER_03: And guess what?
1:23:35
SPEAKER_03: Guess who's guess who's like hitting 35 bonds for his team and taking care of business at first base?
1:23:40
SPEAKER_03: The guy they replaced him with third base, Pete Alonzo spent more innings at first base than the guy they replaced him with.
1:23:46
SPEAKER_01: That's crazy.
1:23:47
SPEAKER_03: In City Field, right?
1:23:48
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:23:49
SPEAKER_03: Because he played first base all three games, was in there.
1:23:51
SPEAKER_03: The guy they replaced him with got hurt and was not playing uh and was and just isn't playing.
1:23:57
SPEAKER_03: So yeah, I don't know.
1:23:58
SPEAKER_03: I just think this was a bad look for anybody who's saying that you shouldn't cheer that on.
1:24:02
SPEAKER_03: Because honestly, man, two things that are most important in baseball is one, this is an entertainment business.
1:24:07
SPEAKER_03: It's all about entertaining the fans.
1:24:09
SPEAKER_03: And if there's a player there that's gonna hit 300, are you gonna get mad at any of the Florida Marlins fans when Showy Otani hit 50-50 and had the greatest offensive performance in baseball history?
1:24:20
SPEAKER_03: Would you get mad at a Florida fan for cheering that?
1:24:22
SPEAKER_01: No, it was like a historic feat that you were there to witness.
1:24:27
SPEAKER_01: Like, no.
1:24:28
SPEAKER_03: If the opposing pitcher throws an immaculate inning against your team, don't you give him a little clap as he walks off the field?
1:24:33
SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
1:24:34
SPEAKER_01: Like you have to.
1:24:35
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you're like, hey, figure there's your cap still there to watch baseball.
1:24:38
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you want your team to win, but tip your cap to something that's great, right?
1:24:41
SPEAKER_03: I just know I don't know.
1:24:42
SPEAKER_03: I thought it was really petty, and I thought it's a bad look, and just another reason why the LOL Mets just need to.
1:24:48
SPEAKER_01: They just they just keep they can't get out of their own way, man.
1:24:51
SPEAKER_03: Absolutely, absolutely.
1:24:52
SPEAKER_03: And congrats to PCA.
1:24:54
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:24:54
SPEAKER_03: PCA who who made the 40-40 club.
1:24:57
SPEAKER_01: Pretty impressive.
1:24:58
SPEAKER_01: I mean, this this is a pretty impressive feat.
1:25:00
SPEAKER_01: What the seventh player all time to ever do it?
1:25:03
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:25:04
SPEAKER_03: Who was the last player to do it?
1:25:05
SPEAKER_01: Uh probably Shoheo Tani.
1:25:09
SPEAKER_03: I don't think anybody did it last year.
1:25:10
SPEAKER_03: Correct me if I'm wrong, Greg or Tammy.
1:25:13
SPEAKER_03: Uh let us know on the channel if anybody did it last year.
1:25:15
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:25:15
SPEAKER_03: But I'm pretty sure Shoheo Tani was the last one to do it.
1:25:18
SPEAKER_03: Um did 40-40.
1:25:20
SPEAKER_03: Um, I think I know there's only one player that did 70-40.
1:25:26
SPEAKER_01: 70-40?
1:25:28
SPEAKER_03: 70 stolen bases and 40 home runs.
1:25:30
SPEAKER_01: Oh, okay.
1:25:31
SPEAKER_01: Who was that?
1:25:33
SPEAKER_03: Really?
1:25:34
SPEAKER_03: Ronald Acunia Jr.
1:25:35
SPEAKER_01: He had 70 home bases.
1:25:36
SPEAKER_03: Stole 70 bases?
1:25:38
SPEAKER_03: 74.
1:25:39
SPEAKER_03: This is your guy.
1:25:40
SPEAKER_03: Stolen bases versus MVP.
1:25:41
SPEAKER_03: Wait, who's your favorite team again?
1:25:43
SPEAKER_03: I don't I can't remember.
1:25:45
SPEAKER_03: I mean, they lost, they lost poor guy.
1:25:48
SPEAKER_03: He's completely gone.
1:25:49
SPEAKER_03: Oh my gosh.
1:25:51
SPEAKER_03: Um, yeah.
1:25:52
SPEAKER_03: Oh, by the way, and uh, we need to keep track of uh where Jas Chisholm is because he said he's gonna hit 50, he's gonna do 50-50 this year.
1:25:58
SPEAKER_03: We're gonna have to look that up.
1:25:59
SPEAKER_01: Anyway, you go ahead and break it.
1:26:00
SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna I'm gonna I'll look that up while you while you go into this.
1:26:03
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so okay, so I could again congrats to PCA.
1:26:06
SPEAKER_03: I mean, this guy is gonna be easily the breakaway uh MVP.
1:26:09
SPEAKER_03: I don't think that's in any doubt whatsoever.
1:26:11
SPEAKER_03: Uh congratulations to him.
1:26:13
SPEAKER_03: Uh, you gotta love it, man.
1:26:15
SPEAKER_03: Um, a couple of comments here from uh friend of the channel, Tammy Price.
1:26:18
SPEAKER_03: Respect the accomplishments.
1:26:19
SPEAKER_03: Again, that's probably part speaking about the Pete Alonzo thing.
1:26:22
SPEAKER_03: Uh absolutely, man.
1:26:24
SPEAKER_03: Just a bad look on um bad luck on Mets fans there.
1:26:27
SPEAKER_03: Congrats to him.
1:26:28
SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
1:26:29
SPEAKER_03: Uh, we also have a comment here from Greg Hawkins.
1:26:31
SPEAKER_03: Yes, of course, you should you should cheer the great accomplishments.
1:26:34
SPEAKER_03: Uh, let a rowdy home run video uh let's see here, look up a rowdy home run video online.
1:26:41
SPEAKER_03: Um, I think that was a visiting park.
1:26:44
SPEAKER_03: Interesting.
1:26:45
SPEAKER_03: We'll have to look at that one.
1:26:46
SPEAKER_03: Um, only seven players in MOB HIP history has accomplished the 40-40.
1:26:50
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
1:26:52
SPEAKER_01: Uh currently Jazz Chisholm is at 41 stolen bases and 19 home runs.
1:26:57
SPEAKER_01: Maybe he'll hit 21 home runs in the next five games.
1:27:02
SPEAKER_01: He's I'm not saying it's it's not out of the realm of possibility, okay?
1:27:08
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he's only hit 19 in 140 games, but 150 games.
1:27:13
SPEAKER_03: Speaking of which, Tatis, he's at 27 home runs.
1:27:16
SPEAKER_03: 27.
1:27:17
SPEAKER_03: Really bad.
1:27:18
SPEAKER_03: No, no, no.
1:27:19
SPEAKER_03: Remember what we said early in this season.
1:27:21
SPEAKER_03: He made it through like what, a month and a half before he even hit a single home run?
1:27:25
SPEAKER_03: So the fact that he's gone on and hit 27 tear, yeah.
1:27:29
SPEAKER_03: After almost like what two months of not hitting one.
1:27:31
SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah, that's even a whole video about that.
1:27:33
SPEAKER_03: That's actually quite impressive that he turned it around, man.
1:27:37
SPEAKER_03: Jess Chisholm, 50 beers, and 50 hot dogs.
1:27:40
SPEAKER_03: Maybe, maybe that's what he was talking about.
1:27:42
SPEAKER_03: Sorry, Rowdy, I mean Bartolo Cologne.
1:27:44
SPEAKER_03: Oh, dude, that's the greatest home run of all time.
1:27:47
SPEAKER_03: Have you seen that video?
1:27:48
SPEAKER_03: Bartolo Cologne, big sexy.
1:27:50
SPEAKER_01: I have seen this.
1:27:51
SPEAKER_01: So good.
1:27:52
SPEAKER_03: Yes, so good.
1:27:53
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:27:54
SPEAKER_01: Just an idea why I typed Rowdy.
1:27:56
SPEAKER_03: Just some some old WWF love there on your on your uh particular.
1:28:00
SPEAKER_03: Things.
1:28:00
SPEAKER_03: You're just a fan of Roddy Roddy Piper.
1:28:01
SPEAKER_03: That's awesome.
1:28:02
SPEAKER_01: Oh, that's probably what it is, Greg.
1:28:03
SPEAKER_01: And it's okay.
1:28:04
SPEAKER_01: It's okay.
1:28:05
SPEAKER_01: We're not judging you at all.
1:28:06
SPEAKER_03: Not at all.
1:28:07
SPEAKER_03: Not at all.
1:28:07
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:28:08
SPEAKER_03: But yeah, so it's just it's it's really interesting, man.
1:28:10
SPEAKER_03: We're coming down the wire, man.
1:28:11
SPEAKER_03: It's coming in, it's interesting.
1:28:12
SPEAKER_03: Like it's changing a lot, like as far as playoff season seeding.
1:28:16
SPEAKER_03: Right now, I think there's a game and a half separating the top three wild cards.
1:28:20
SPEAKER_03: So whoever wins on any given day is going to be, you know, in a in first position versus third position for the wild card.
1:28:28
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:28:29
SPEAKER_03: Absolutely crazy, man.
1:28:30
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it is crazy.
1:28:31
SPEAKER_03: Absolutely crazy.
1:28:32
SPEAKER_03: Um, you got anything else on me, as well?
1:28:34
SPEAKER_03: I don't.
1:28:34
SPEAKER_03: All right.
1:28:34
SPEAKER_03: Well, I think that calls it for us, dude.
1:28:36
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it sure does.
1:28:37
SPEAKER_03: Once again, folks, we like to appreciate every each and every single one of you for joining us today.
1:28:41
SPEAKER_03: Uh, we will talk a little bit more.
1:28:42
SPEAKER_03: Uh, next week, we might break down what we think our uh roster should be for the postseason.
1:28:47
SPEAKER_03: I'll break down the Dodgers, he'll break down you know whatever team he's a fan of, because apparently he doesn't remember.
1:28:51
SPEAKER_01: I don't remember.
1:28:53
SPEAKER_01: They lost today, so I can't talk about them.
1:28:55
SPEAKER_03: Oh, it's so good.
1:28:56
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's all good, man.
1:28:57
SPEAKER_01: See, if we would have done the show on Wednesday, they would have won.
1:28:59
SPEAKER_01: Then I could have remembered that I'm a Braves fan.
1:29:02
SPEAKER_03: There you go.
1:29:02
SPEAKER_03: There you go.
1:29:03
SPEAKER_03: That's does that mean I have to mean I have to forget because my Dodgers lost yesterday?
1:29:07
SPEAKER_01: Uh you probably should.
1:29:08
SPEAKER_03: By the way, did you see the absolute disrespect the Dodgers gave the Padres?
1:29:12
SPEAKER_01: No.
1:29:12
SPEAKER_03: So they the Dodgers and the Padres, right?
1:29:14
SPEAKER_03: It's the only time the Dodgers have played a winning team in like the last like, I don't know, month and a half, right?
1:29:19
SPEAKER_03: And so the Dodgers roll in, the Padres roll in and they throw out their their ace, King, right?
1:29:24
SPEAKER_03: They bring King in here, and he's gonna, you know, bring in their ace to face the Dodgers.
1:29:28
SPEAKER_03: And it's supposed to be Yamamoto, right?
1:29:30
SPEAKER_03: Dodgers like, nah, we're gonna throw a bullpen game.
1:29:36
SPEAKER_03: It's like, wow, you're you're a wild cart team, but we're gonna show some disrespect.
1:29:40
SPEAKER_03: We're gonna pull our ace off the mound, and then we're gonna throw in a bullpen game.
1:29:44
SPEAKER_03: They used eight pitchers through a shutty.
1:29:49
SPEAKER_03: Knock King out, put up four runs on him, let him walk in two runs in the second inning.
1:29:53
SPEAKER_03: Just the total disrespect the Dodgers did to the Padres, man.
1:29:57
SPEAKER_03: Absolutely crazy.
1:29:58
SPEAKER_03: And of course, they, you know, because baseball's baseball.
1:30:00
SPEAKER_03: And it doesn't matter if you're the highest pay payroll or the lowest paid payroll in baseball, you can win any given game.
1:30:05
SPEAKER_03: And so the Padres uh won the next game five to one.
1:30:08
SPEAKER_03: So that's just how baseball works.
1:30:10
SPEAKER_01: It really is, too.
1:30:11
SPEAKER_03: We want to hear from you folks.
1:30:12
SPEAKER_03: Let us know where your thoughts are in the comments down below.
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SPEAKER_03: Uh, yay, thank the Brave, thank you, Braves, for losing exactly that clinched uh the price.
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SPEAKER_01: Not okay.
1:30:20
SPEAKER_03: That's uh you actually thought the Dodgers were gonna lose every game for the rest of the year.
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SPEAKER_03: I I mean I was banking on it.
1:30:28
SPEAKER_03: I needed that to happen.
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SPEAKER_03: You realize they play the Giants after the Padres, right?
1:30:31
SPEAKER_01: Oh no, I didn't realize that.
1:30:33
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: So pretty sure there's still a it happens.
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SPEAKER_03: It happens, it's fine.
1:30:38
SPEAKER_03: It's fine.
1:30:38
SPEAKER_01: We just got to get through a wild card series.
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SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
1:30:40
SPEAKER_03: Once again, folks, we want to hear from you.
1:30:42
SPEAKER_03: Let us know your thoughts are in the comments down below.
1:30:44
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1:30:48
SPEAKER_03: Appreciate you guys working with us on screwing up on uh not only um getting this thing live, also canceling it, and then having to restart it.
1:30:57
SPEAKER_03: Appreciate all that.
1:30:58
SPEAKER_03: Appreciate everybody joining us on Utah Jazz DNA and on our live there, where we also had some fun issues there.
1:31:04
SPEAKER_03: Yep.
1:31:05
SPEAKER_03: Appreciate you guys rolling with us.
1:31:06
SPEAKER_01: Yep.
1:31:06
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1:31:11
SPEAKER_03: With all that said, my name is Darren.
1:31:13
SPEAKER_03: That is AJ, and this has been an episode of the DNA sports recap.
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SPEAKER_03: Till next time.