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- 0:00Lauren Owens: When you're getting dressed, one of the most important things is that you feel good about what you're wearing and you feel comfortable and confident and just at peace.
- 0:13Michelle Gauthier: You're listening to Overwhelmed Working Woman, the podcast that helps you be more calm and more productive by doing less.
- 0:21Michelle Gauthier: I'm your host, Michelle Gauthier, a former Overwhelmed Working Woman and current life coach.
- 0:26Michelle Gauthier: On this show, we unpack the stress and pressure that today's Working Woman experiences.
- 0:31Michelle Gauthier: And in each episode, you'll get a strategy to bring more calm, ease, and relaxation to your life.
- 0:38Michelle Gauthier: Hi, friend.
- 0:41Michelle Gauthier: I have a good one for you today.
- 0:43Michelle Gauthier: If you've ever been standing in your closet and thinking, I have nothing to wear, even though your closet's completely full, this is gonna be a great episode for you because getting dressed shouldn't feel like the hardest decision of your day.
- 0:53Michelle Gauthier: But for a lot of overwhelmed working women, it sure can be.
- 0:57Michelle Gauthier: That's why I'm so excited about this conversation and the guest I have today.
- 1:00Michelle Gauthier: Today I'm joined by Lauren Owens, also known as Mama in Denim.
- 1:04Michelle Gauthier: She is a fashion creator known for her simple outfit formula approach to getting dressed.
- 1:10Michelle Gauthier: I absolutely love this, and it has really been fun for me to try her outfit formulas and make getting dressed even more simple.
- 1:17Michelle Gauthier: When you listen today, you're gonna learn how to simplify your wardrobe decisions so you're not standing in front of your closet overthinking every morning.
- 1:24Michelle Gauthier: How to use outfit formulas, and she'll explain exactly what those are to create cute put-together looks, often using what you already own.
- 1:32Michelle Gauthier: And how to feel more confident and comfortable in your clothes without caring too much about trends or buying more stuff.
- 1:39Michelle Gauthier: This is one of those conversations that can just make life a little bit easier every day.
- 1:44Michelle Gauthier: And I will tell you, but you won't know what this means yet, that I'm wearing formula number 78 today.
- 1:50Michelle Gauthier: So, Lauren, welcome to the podcast.
- 1:52Michelle Gauthier: Thank you so much for being with us.
- 1:54Lauren Owens: Thank you so much for having me.
- 1:56Lauren Owens: It's an honor to be here.
- 1:57Michelle Gauthier: Yes, I would love to hear about how you got into what you would call yourself?
- 2:02Michelle Gauthier: Do you call yourself an influencer?
- 2:04Michelle Gauthier: Do you call yourself a stylist?
- 2:05Michelle Gauthier: What do you call yourself and how did you get into this line of work?
- 2:08Lauren Owens: I definitely would just call myself a content creator.
- 2:11Lauren Owens: I've just always been a fashion lover.
- 2:13Lauren Owens: I probably should have gone into fashion or styling, but I actually majored in music, which is totally random and unrelated.
- 2:21Lauren Owens: But my parents and my brother are all professional artists into my entire life was just being around art.
- 2:28Lauren Owens: I grew up going to art openings and having people constantly creating around me.
- 2:34Lauren Owens: So I'm sure that ties into there quite a bit.
- 2:37Lauren Owens: And I think I just thought I wasn't creative in that way, but I always have had an eye for what I like.
- 2:44Lauren Owens: I've always felt comfortable putting things together in a way that I felt feel is aesthetically pleasing to the eye.
- 2:51Lauren Owens: So I think that sort of comes back to those roots.
- 2:55Michelle Gauthier: Yeah, for sure.
- 2:56Michelle Gauthier: That totally makes sense.
- 2:57Michelle Gauthier: And I find this a lot in coaching people that they will say that they can do something and that it's just easy for them.
- 3:03Michelle Gauthier: It doesn't feel hard.
- 3:04Michelle Gauthier: So maybe it's not hard for you to put together something that's just pleasing to the eye.
- 3:08Michelle Gauthier: And then other people are like, Well, Lauren, how did you do that?
- 3:11Michelle Gauthier: Is that how it feels with you for dressing?
- 3:15Lauren Owens: I think even from a young age, I was always really drawn to fashion, beautiful things, just like very aesthetically pleasing.
- 3:23Lauren Owens: And I always felt like it was like me being a shopaholic or indulging in things.
- 3:28Lauren Owens: But even if I am just using what's already my closet, I feel really comfortable just putting things together.
- 3:34Lauren Owens: And I think it was in college that I first started to really hear from other people that they admired how I dressed or my outfits and I would dress other people, my roommates.
- 3:45Lauren Owens: I always remembered what people were wearing because it just stuck in my brain.
- 3:50Lauren Owens: Uh-huh.
- 3:50Lauren Owens: And I was always calling back to inspiration that I'd seen without even really knowing where I'd seen it or what it was from.
- 3:57Lauren Owens: So I think that is a big part of where this all comes from.
- 4:00Lauren Owens: Yeah.
- 4:00Michelle Gauthier: Yeah.
- 4:01Michelle Gauthier: So you have this natural knack for it.
- 4:03Michelle Gauthier: And then when did you start becoming a content creator and talking about clothes?
- 4:08Lauren Owens: January 2025.
- 4:09Lauren Owens: I had just had a baby in July of the year prior.
- 4:14Lauren Owens: And I was being a stay-at-home mom, which I had not originally planned.
- 4:18Lauren Owens: That's a whole nother story.
- 4:20Lauren Owens: But I had been doing it for a while.
- 4:22Lauren Owens: And I think I was in the groove with that aspect of my life, and I needed another outlet.
- 4:27Lauren Owens: So I started posting on TikTok, and I cannot tell you why I thought that was a good idea or what I thought I was doing with that.
- 4:35Lauren Owens: It was definitely very out of my comfort zone, very cringy, in my opinion.
- 4:39Lauren Owens: Originally, I was doing random skincare, just random mom-related things.
- 4:44Lauren Owens: I was doing trends.
- 4:45Lauren Owens: I was just literally posting anything and was not posting fashion.
- 4:49Lauren Owens: And the reason I wasn't posting fashion is something I'm almost ashamed of now.
- 4:53Lauren Owens: I was not comfortable with my postpartum body.
- 4:55Lauren Owens: I was distancing myself from my postpartum body and like doing full body shots.
- 5:01Lauren Owens: Uh-huh.
- 5:01Lauren Owens: And then I did a couple of videos of outfits.
- 5:04Lauren Owens: And those videos did so well with my little group of friends that I'd made at this point.
- 5:09Lauren Owens: People were, oh my gosh, you're so stylish.
- 5:11Lauren Owens: I love your clothes.
- 5:12Lauren Owens: I love your taste.
- 5:13Lauren Owens: And I started really hearing regularly that was what people were really responding to.
- 5:18Lauren Owens: So I just embraced that and I started leaning into fashion.
- 5:23Lauren Owens: And it was the easiest thing ever.
- 5:25Lauren Owens: I was like, why was I not doing this all along?
- 5:27Lauren Owens: This is my favorite thing.
- 5:28Lauren Owens: It's a comfort of mine.
- 5:30Lauren Owens: It's something I've always been drawn to.
- 5:32Lauren Owens: I was doing these outfit videos regularly.
- 5:34Lauren Owens: That was going decently, and I was completely content with where it was.
- 5:39Lauren Owens: And then somebody asked me how to dress for the fall transition season.
- 5:44Lauren Owens: And I was like, you're right.
- 5:45Lauren Owens: It is really hard to dress for that season.
- 5:47Lauren Owens: You're hot, you're cold.
- 5:48Lauren Owens: What do you wear?
- 5:49Lauren Owens: What are some cute outfits you could throw together?
- 5:51Lauren Owens: I wish I could even remember who asked me this question because it literally changed my life.
- 5:55Lauren Owens: But I came up with five formulas because I was like five days of the week I need to wear these to work.
- 6:01Lauren Owens: And the idea was that you wouldn't necessarily need to know any other formulas.
- 6:06Lauren Owens: You could just get dressed using those five formulas for that entire season until it felt like it's actually cold now, and then I would switch them up.
- 6:13Lauren Owens: So that's what I was envisioning when I did these.
- 6:17Lauren Owens: I did these five fall transition outfit formulas, and I immediately started getting comments, and these were only on TikTok that were like, please never stop doing these from people I'd never had never followed me before.
- 6:28Lauren Owens: And I got, I started getting like bumps and followers immediately.
- 6:32Lauren Owens: People were just clearly responding to these right off the bat.
- 6:36Lauren Owens: I was noticing that there was a gap in this industry in on TikTok or this hashtag, I guess.
- 6:43Lauren Owens: I don't even know what to call it.
- 6:44Lauren Owens: And so I decided I would just keep doing the formulas.
- 6:48Lauren Owens: And that's really the entire story.
- 6:50Lauren Owens: I just kept going, I kept growing.
- 6:52Lauren Owens: And I think when I decided to start posting them on Instagram was really the turning point for everything.
- 6:58Lauren Owens: A lot more people in my generation are actually on that app.
- 7:02Lauren Owens: And so the people who actually really need these are on Instagram.
- 7:06Lauren Owens: And even though I still technically have more followers on TikTok, I am so much more connected to my community on Instagram because those are my people.
- 7:15Lauren Owens: We are in the same season of life and we need the same things and we're struggling with the same things.
- 7:23Lauren Owens: And that was where things really took off.
- 7:25Michelle Gauthier: Okay, so I'm gonna tell people a little bit about for anybody who doesn't already follow you, but I'm gonna tell them a little bit about what they can expect when they go to your page.
- 7:33Michelle Gauthier: This is why I was like, oh my gosh, I'm totally hooked.
- 7:35Michelle Gauthier: So you know how sometimes you open your closet and you're like, there's so many options.
- 7:40Michelle Gauthier: I don't know what to wear.
- 7:41Michelle Gauthier: A lot of times, this is not me because I'm neurotic about this, but you might have stuff that you haven't worn in a long time or things that used to fit you and don't fit you anymore, or whatever.
- 7:52Michelle Gauthier: And so I love the idea of just having a closet full of clothes that you like, and then you go to Lauren's page and she literally says, I'm gonna tell you exactly, here's what you're wearing.
- 8:01Michelle Gauthier: I'm gonna tell you exactly what to wear tomorrow.
- 8:03Michelle Gauthier: And then she tells you the formula for the next day.
- 8:06Michelle Gauthier: So I mentioned at the beginning that I'm wearing number 78, Promeo 78, and then she'll say, What I'm wearing right now is a printed pants, a blouse, and then flat.
- 8:16Michelle Gauthier: And then she'll make accommodations if it's like cold or warm or give you some ideas.
- 8:21Michelle Gauthier: And then she shows you many different people wearing different versions of this so that you can just go to your closet and be like, oh, okay, what pants do I have that have a print?
- 8:30Michelle Gauthier: And what blouse can I put with it?
- 8:32Michelle Gauthier: And today I have on these leopard print jeans, and then I would put together this blue and white pinstriped button-down shirt with it, which I never would have put together.
- 8:39Michelle Gauthier: And I put them on.
- 8:40Michelle Gauthier: I was like, that's so cute! And then I threw on some flats and I was good to go.
- 8:44Michelle Gauthier: So that's what you can expect if you go to her page.
- 8:48Michelle Gauthier: It's just so much fun.
- 8:50Michelle Gauthier: You give a preview for the week, and then you tell everyone every day, right?
- 8:54Michelle Gauthier: This is the exact formula you're wearing.
- 8:56Michelle Gauthier: Here's what it is.
- 8:58Michelle Gauthier: So, what's your take on what's in style, what's not in style, what we should have, what we shouldn't have.
- 9:04Michelle Gauthier: How do you feel about what where we should start?
- 9:07Lauren Owens: When you're getting dressed, one of the most important things is that you feel good about what you're wearing and you feel comfortable and confident and just at peace.
- 9:16Lauren Owens: Like it's not something that you're constantly thinking about throughout the day.
- 9:19Lauren Owens: Like you're like, oh my gosh, this feels uncomfortable.
- 9:21Lauren Owens: And I feel like every person, especially women, have put on an outfit that they felt like they should wear because of so many reasons, trends.
- 9:30Lauren Owens: You just bought it, you feel like that's what you should be wearing, or you like you're trying to push yourself to do something new out of your comfort zone, and it just doesn't feel right.
- 9:40Lauren Owens: So I feel like that's the first step for me is like whatever you're putting on, it should feel comfortable.
- 9:45Lauren Owens: And if it doesn't, then go a different direction.
- 9:47Lauren Owens: And that's where the personal creativity comes into it.
- 9:50Lauren Owens: And that's why I like the formulas, it's giving you a guideline and then you fill in the blanks with what you already own.
- 9:59Lauren Owens: Maybe you do end up shopping because you realize you don't have some things that you want to have based off of the formulas or based off of inspiration that you've seen.
- 10:07Lauren Owens: But at the end of the day, my goal is that you put on an outfit that might have been inspired by my formula and you feel really comfortable in your own skin and you're excited about what you're wearing, and it goes throughout the rest of the day and it's good.
- 10:21Lauren Owens: It's not something you're constantly concerned about.
- 10:23Michelle Gauthier: Yeah, you put it on, you feel good, and then you when you're in that energy of confidence, you totally give that off at work or on Zoom or wherever you're talking to people.
- 10:32Michelle Gauthier: You can 100% just even be in the airport and see someone walk by and feel like, oh, they're really uncomfortable in that, or they look great in that.
- 10:40Michelle Gauthier: You can just tell.
- 10:41Michelle Gauthier: And so I feel like you're helping to produce more people who are feeling like, yes, I feel good about what I'm wearing.
- 10:48Michelle Gauthier: And my sister and I, just as a random aside, decided we're gonna do three months where we're only thrifting, so we're not buying anything new.
- 10:55Michelle Gauthier: I found you at the same time as we started doing that.
- 10:59Michelle Gauthier: So, for example, I didn't have a good denim shirt.
- 11:01Michelle Gauthier: So I was like, this is gonna be fun.
- 11:03Michelle Gauthier: I'm gonna go thrifting and I'm gonna try to find a really good denim shirt.
- 11:06Michelle Gauthier: So it's just then fun to do that and to add pieces to my wardrobe based on what I noticed I was missing in some of the formulas and get them for six dollars and try them and see how they work.
- 11:17Michelle Gauthier: I've just had so much fun adding pieces and trying things.
- 11:21Michelle Gauthier: And one of the things that's really helped me do is to put together things that I wouldn't have thought about putting together.
- 11:27Michelle Gauthier: Like, for example, there's a formula where you wear a dress and then you put a sweater over it and you can wear that, or you can wear a dress as a top with jeans or whatever.
- 11:37Michelle Gauthier: There's so many different ways that you have already thought about to utilize pieces that I think are just awesome.
- 11:45Lauren Owens: Yeah, I think there's a lot of rules, and again, especially for women, there's a lot of rules and expectations for getting dressed, and like men don't really have that same expectation.
- 11:57Lauren Owens: It's not quite the same because I think with in women's fashion, there's just an expectation out there that you're going to try to at least be put together for whatever you're doing for that day.
- 12:11Lauren Owens: And it is, it's a lot of decision making, but I also think it's a lot to keep up with trends and sizing being confusing.
- 12:19Lauren Owens: So that's part of the reason I love that people are using just what's already in their closets.
- 12:25Lauren Owens: I hadn't even really thought about that when I first did the formulas.
- 12:28Lauren Owens: I guess I thought, how do you dress using what you already have?
- 12:30Lauren Owens: Because why would you buy things just for the fall transition season?
- 12:32Lauren Owens: You're using your summer clothes with your winter clothes, you're just putting them together.
- 12:36Lauren Owens: So when it comes to trends, I think you mentioned that earlier, how I'm starting to think about trends is it's more about how you wear the clothes versus what you wear, because that's where I think fast fashion really comes in.
- 12:48Lauren Owens: If you're buying things because of trends, those things are often fast fashion.
- 12:53Lauren Owens: Yeah.
- 12:54Lauren Owens: But I'm not gonna say I don't buy fast fashion at all because I definitely do to a certain extent, because I don't think it's unfortunately, I don't think it's realistic to 100% buy sustainable all the time because it is often a little bit more expensive.
- 13:07Lauren Owens: And I also think it's a little bit harder sometimes to find fully size inclusive, affordable things and have the time to go thrifting.
- 13:15Lauren Owens: There's a lot of boxes you have to be able to check to fully have a sustainable 100% wardrobe.
- 13:21Lauren Owens: So I usually I pick a few brands that I promote on my page that are size inclusive and affordable that aren't 100% sustainable because I just know that's not going to work for everyone.
- 13:32Michelle Gauthier: Okay, so the average person listening to this is overwhelmed and a working woman with a high-pressure job, sometimes a mom.
- 13:40Michelle Gauthier: So they don't have a lot of time.
- 13:42Michelle Gauthier: So if they're listening right now and they're like, okay, what should I wear tomorrow?
- 13:47Michelle Gauthier: What would you recommend for them?
- 13:50Lauren Owens: I do have a formula for tomorrow, but I would say an absolute favorite is actually similar to what you're wearing right now, which is the denim top with the statement pants.
- 14:02Lauren Owens: One of the absolute most popular formulas that I have ever done.
- 14:05Lauren Owens: And it's just because it's easy and you look like you put in a lot more effort than you actually did, but you also feel really comfortable because you're wearing pants and a shirt.
- 14:14Lauren Owens: Yeah.
- 14:14Lauren Owens: Yeah.
- 14:14Lauren Owens: But it's it feels like you put a lot more thought into it and it feels way more special than the decision actually was.
- 14:23Lauren Owens: You didn't actually have to put a lot of effort into it, but you feel like you did.
- 14:27Lauren Owens: And I love that.
- 14:28Lauren Owens: I know that not everyone can do denim though.
- 14:31Lauren Owens: That's something I'm always giving options for.
- 14:33Lauren Owens: So I generally say just a classic button-down shirt with a statement pant.
- 14:39Lauren Owens: And that statement pant could also just be like a flowy blue slack or a it could be a patterned slack, it could be a silk pant, it could be a linen pant.
- 14:49Lauren Owens: There's so many options.
- 14:50Lauren Owens: It's really how it works for you.
- 14:53Lauren Owens: Is it does it feel like a statement for you, unless it's out of your comfort zone because you have to be comfortable?
- 14:58Lauren Owens: And does it feel like a statement with your shirt?
- 15:00Lauren Owens: I feel like those are different things to take into account.
- 15:03Michelle Gauthier: Okay, great.
- 15:04Michelle Gauthier: I'm gonna ask you just a couple more questions.
- 15:06Michelle Gauthier: If you were to share just like one takeaway with the audience, what would you suggest for them?
- 15:13Lauren Owens: I wish I could remember who so I could let her know that I'm suggesting that to people because I think it's brilliant.
- 15:18Lauren Owens: So I think one way that you could take some of the decision making off of your plate without necessarily having to follow the formulas on a daily basis, is just take a little time to dig into the formulas that already exist out there and think about what you have in your closet and what you love to wear, and then pick maybe five or six or whatever makes sense for you.
- 15:40Lauren Owens: Six if you're gonna do this with the dice, and then every morning just roll the dice.
- 15:45Lauren Owens: And the nice thing about them being formulas is your outfits never have to be the same.
- 15:50Lauren Owens: So if there's a few items that you like, maybe that's what you shop for and you have a few extra button-downs that you have that you love to wear and they go with a lot of different things.
- 15:59Lauren Owens: So in the morning you roll a dice and you pick from one of those six formulas that works really well with the clothes that you already have, and then you never really have to make a decision again, except you can rotate through what you already have in your closet.
- 16:13Lauren Owens: So maybe you are mixing it up every time you do one of those formulas, but you're still not really having to make your own decisions.
- 16:19Michelle Gauthier: Yeah, so you can just choose from your four button-down shirts that are hopefully hanging up in your closet and can you.
- 16:24Michelle Gauthier: Exactly.
- 16:25Michelle Gauthier: Yeah, yes.
- 16:26Lauren Owens: I love to rotate through things, so I'm wearing through things, but it also helps me keep on top of my closet too.
- 16:31Lauren Owens: So I'm like, you know what?
- 16:32Lauren Owens: Every time I get to this button-down, I don't want to wear it.
- 16:35Lauren Owens: So therefore, this is time to move along.
- 16:39Michelle Gauthier: Okay, two more questions for you that I ask everybody who comes on the podcast.
- 16:42Michelle Gauthier: The first one is what is a rule that you've made for yourself that you very rarely break.
- 16:48Lauren Owens: So this is totally unrelated to fashion, but it was life-changing for me.
- 16:52Lauren Owens: I made the decision in 2020 to stop drinking alcohol completely.
- 16:56Lauren Owens: And it is still to this day one of the greatest decisions I've ever made.
- 17:00Lauren Owens: I don't miss it at all.
- 17:01Lauren Owens: I definitely thought that I would because during that time we were on in lockdown, and my husband and I worked drinking casually more often because we really didn't have a lot to do.
- 17:11Lauren Owens: Yeah.
- 17:12Lauren Owens: So when I did stop drinking, it really made me have to look inward and think about why is this such a huge part of my life?
- 17:20Lauren Owens: And clearly it's not just about being social because we're literally not seeing anyone else.
- 17:25Lauren Owens: We would hang out with friends on Zoom, but and we were drinking.
- 17:29Lauren Owens: It really helped me address a lot of things that I realized I hadn't addressed before in my life.
- 17:36Lauren Owens: And I am just so grateful for that decision.
- 17:39Lauren Owens: And I do think that there has been a big kind of shift with alcohol over the last five to ten years.
- 17:47Lauren Owens: I don't feel like a weirdo not drinking, which I thought that I would.
- 17:52Lauren Owens: It feels supernatural and it feels like a lot of people are not drinking, which is amazing.
- 17:57Michelle Gauthier: It's okay now.
- 17:58Michelle Gauthier: Sounds silly, like it wasn't okay before, but I had a dinner party last weekend and my girlfriend was like, I will bring, I'll bring the drinks.
- 18:06Michelle Gauthier: I found the best mocktails from Spindrift, and she brought limes to go with it and fresh mint, and she just brought drinks that weren't alcoholic.
- 18:13Michelle Gauthier: And I was like, wow, this is this is awesome that there are so many options and that it's just not a big deal.
- 18:19Michelle Gauthier: Because it used to be like, if you're not drinking, why aren't you drinking?
- 18:22Michelle Gauthier: Yeah.
- 18:22Michelle Gauthier: So I love that you're saying it's the best decision that you've ever made.
- 18:26Michelle Gauthier: So it's not necessarily easy to look inside and see all those things, but coming out the other side of that, I can say feels so clear and so much better.
- 18:35Michelle Gauthier: Yes.
- 18:36Michelle Gauthier: Yeah.
- 18:36Michelle Gauthier: Absolutely.
- 18:37Michelle Gauthier: Mine was busyness, not drinking, but quitting busyness was also not socially popular.
- 18:42Michelle Gauthier: Right.
- 18:42Michelle Gauthier: You see people and they're like, How are you doing?
- 18:44Michelle Gauthier: You have to be like, oh my gosh, I'm crazy, busy.
- 18:46Michelle Gauthier: Everything's crazy all the time.
- 18:47Michelle Gauthier: Just to get up that first feel and so oh, true.
- 18:51Lauren Owens: As someone who is very busy in this season of my life, I would love to quit busyness.
- 18:55Lauren Owens: That is noted.
- 18:56Michelle Gauthier: Yes, you could put that on your list.
- 18:58Michelle Gauthier: Put it on your list of things to do.
- 19:00Michelle Gauthier: I'm your gal if you need me.
- 19:02Michelle Gauthier: Okay.
- 19:02Michelle Gauthier: And then the second question is what is something like unrelated to work that you just really love right now?
- 19:08Michelle Gauthier: Just something that you're into.
- 19:10Lauren Owens: So I this I feel like this is along the same lines as stopping drinking, but slowing down and doing non-screen related activities as much as I possibly can, which I have been calling because I was quoting something I saw, because I'm very far from alone in this.
- 19:29Lauren Owens: Hobbies.
- 19:29Lauren Owens: Yes.
- 19:31Michelle Gauthier: I've totally seen that.
- 19:32Michelle Gauthier: like grandma hobby.
- 19:33Lauren Owens: Yeah, grandma hobbies.
- 19:35Lauren Owens: Somebody commented on one of my videos actually.
- 19:37Lauren Owens: This is related, I promise.
- 19:39Lauren Owens: That and they just wrote grandma in all caps.
- 19:41Lauren Owens: And I was like, thank you so much.
- 19:43Lauren Owens: That you like took it as a deep.
- 19:45Lauren Owens: I there is such a stigma around looking older and looking like a grandma.
- 19:53Lauren Owens: And I'm sorry, but I have never felt so good or so hot or so like content with myself until I got older.
- 20:01Lauren Owens: So and I actually hate that all the marketing is like around skincare is like anti-aging because I'm like, we are so privileged to age.
- 20:09Lauren Owens: We are so privileged to age.
- 20:11Lauren Owens: Aging is absolutely the greatest thing that has ever happened to me.
- 20:14Lauren Owens: I hate that there is this stigma around it.
- 20:17Lauren Owens: And I also I love how grandmas dress, they have learned what they like to wear, what is comfortable, what colors they like.
- 20:24Lauren Owens: They want to put a cat on their sweater.
- 20:26Lauren Owens: Awesome.
- 20:26Lauren Owens: Like I would, I proudly would wear a cat on my sweater any day.
- 20:30Lauren Owens: And I just really want to embrace grandma culture.
- 20:35Michelle Gauthier: Oh my gosh.
- 20:36Michelle Gauthier: My grandma was an amazing dresser and she definitely dressed.
- 20:41Michelle Gauthier: She loved to dress up.
- 20:42Michelle Gauthier: She looked nice.
- 20:43Michelle Gauthier: She had on a blouse and slacks every day of her life.
- 20:45Michelle Gauthier: I don't care when she was eight, bad years old, and she wasn't well, she'd go play bridge with her friends or something, but little kitten heels, she loved dressing to the nines every day.
- 20:53Michelle Gauthier: It was so cute.
- 20:54Michelle Gauthier: I love that.
- 20:55Lauren Owens: I feel like you only have yourself really to dress for.
- 20:58Lauren Owens: So if you are worried about looking like a grandma, then I feel like I said, I think there's something else going on that you probably should address is not related to what you have simplified to be.
- 21:12Michelle Gauthier: Go for it.
- 21:13Michelle Gauthier: I love it.
- 21:13Michelle Gauthier: Okay.
- 21:14Michelle Gauthier: I think this is perfect timing because always I feel like women need help deciding what to dress for.
- 21:20Michelle Gauthier: But when the seasons start to change and new trends and things come out, I feel like just looking to your formulas is a great way to help busy women just simplify their choices, feel confident and cute and put together.
- 21:32Michelle Gauthier: So thank you so much.
- 21:33Michelle Gauthier: I'm so glad you said yes when I asked you to be on the podcast.
- 21:36Michelle Gauthier: And if they want to keep learning and knowing what to wear each and every day, the easiest thing to do is to follow you.
- 21:43Michelle Gauthier: So where can they follow you?
- 21:44Michelle Gauthier: Because then they never have to think about it.
- 21:46Michelle Gauthier: You'll tell them every day.
- 21:48Lauren Owens: Same handles the same on both platforms that I'm currently using.
- 21:52Lauren Owens: And I'm hoping to expand out of that even more soon.
- 21:56Lauren Owens: But it's Mama in Denham on.
- 21:59Lauren Owens: Instagram and TikTok and at the website mamaindendenim.com.
- 22:04Michelle Gauthier: Okay.
- 22:05Michelle Gauthier: Okay.
- 22:05Michelle Gauthier: So all they have to remember is Mama in Denim.
- 22:07Michelle Gauthier: And we'll put that in the show notes too.
- 22:09Michelle Gauthier: But at least they have some place to start if they want to just pull it up on their bone right now.
- 22:13Michelle Gauthier: Yeah, exactly.
- 22:15Lauren Owens: I'm honestly truly honored to have been so thank you so much for having me.
- 22:20Michelle Gauthier: Thank you so much.
- 22:21Michelle Gauthier: That was so much fun.
- 22:27Michelle Gauthier: Thank you for listening to the Overwhelmed Working Woman podcast.
- 22:30Michelle Gauthier: If you want to learn more about my work, head over to my website at MichelleGauthier.com.
- 22:36Michelle Gauthier: See you next week.